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Speaker 2: Tonight is going to be a good show. I've been
Speaker 2: getting a string of guests on the show and I'm
Speaker 2: always happy to have somebody on here with me. To
Speaker 2: talk to. So once again that is the case. So
Speaker 2: tonight we have the author of these books. It's The
Speaker 2: Conspiracy Theorist Survival Guide, a guidebook for persecuted truthers, and
Speaker 2: the other book being The Mandela Effect, Supernatural Bible Changes
Speaker 2: and the Doctrine of the Preservation of Scripture. My guest
Speaker 2: tonight from Wakeupworelse dot com is John Kerwin.
Speaker 3: Hello, John, Yeah, Hey, hey Aaron, thanks for that intro.
Speaker 4: Good to be with you.
Speaker 3: Looking forward to just going down wherever we're going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear you. No, it's I'm always glad
Speaker 2: to talk to whoever will come on the show. So
Speaker 2: you did reach out to me, and I'm happy that
Speaker 2: you did. And yeah, well, just I mean, honestly, I'm
Speaker 2: going to try to just get a feel for what
Speaker 2: you're all about, what these books are, what your mission is,
Speaker 2: because there's just I don't know, we'll get into as
Speaker 2: a show goes on. But to begin, how would you
Speaker 2: introduce yourself to the audience, John.
Speaker 3: Well, I've been a content creator on YouTube and we
Speaker 3: moved to Rumble recently because of censorship for about eight
Speaker 3: years now, and it is a ministry. So my books
Speaker 3: are free. Everything I do is free. I don't sell
Speaker 3: anything I have in the past, but not this chapter.
Speaker 3: I'm living by faith and what I've been doing for
Speaker 3: the last eight years is providing a biblical analysis of
Speaker 3: the Mandela effect, which is quite a niche little space
Speaker 3: to occupy. I could tell you.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So is wake up or else dot com?
Speaker 2: You're running that through? Is that a five oh one
Speaker 2: C three? Do you have a five O one C three?
Speaker 2: Is that what's going on? No, it's a five oh
Speaker 2: eight C one, which is a subset of the five
Speaker 2: O eight C three. We operated the private It is
Speaker 2: recognized by the RS, but we don't register. We don't
Speaker 2: have a tax ID number, we have no reporting requirements,
Speaker 2: and we're not limited on what we can say, like
Speaker 2: a five oh one C three.
Speaker 1: Is I see it?
Speaker 3: So I have. I have spent a lot of time
Speaker 3: in the legal education movement, became a state national and
Speaker 3: this is part of that. So essentially, because it is
Speaker 3: a ministry, I meet all the qualifications for ministry. I
Speaker 3: don't profit off of any of the things like book sales.
Speaker 3: Books are free, right, so as a result, all my
Speaker 3: donations are tax free under a five oweight C one.
Speaker 2: I see, okay, So anybody who donates to you it
Speaker 2: for them can be a tax write off.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, it's a gray area. In other words, it
Speaker 3: might be challenged. And you know it's it's not very
Speaker 3: common to be a five oeight C one okay, because
Speaker 3: you have to be like up on all of this
Speaker 3: legal education stuff where much of the legal system is
Speaker 3: a fraud. Like, for instance, in any city, all of
Speaker 3: the court systems, everything from the DA all the way
Speaker 3: down to the dogcatcher has it brought done in Bradstreet
Speaker 3: number Everything is a privately owned, for profit business. So
Speaker 3: if you get a speeding ticket, you're being issued a
Speaker 3: presentment by a private company. The way to understand is
Speaker 3: if you went to Walmart to buy grapefruits and the
Speaker 3: manager comes over and he pushes a broom in your hand.
Speaker 3: He says, I need you to sweep up here. You're
Speaker 3: a customer, you would look at him and say, what
Speaker 3: are you talking about? I don't you don't have any
Speaker 3: right to tell me to sweep up. However, if two
Speaker 3: weeks prior you had come in and filled out a
Speaker 3: job application and they accepted you, now you're sewing up
Speaker 3: for work. Now you have contracted with that company in
Speaker 3: exchange for your labor.
Speaker 4: They'd pay you a check.
Speaker 3: Right. So what's happened to us in the US, which
Speaker 3: is a corporation, is we have been slow boiled into
Speaker 3: this slave matrix where they enslave us and trick us
Speaker 3: into standing in for a corporate fiction which has created
Speaker 3: at our birth.
Speaker 1: Okay, nice, And it's so complicated and it's so.
Speaker 3: Vast that it requires their lifelong commitments. So I've sort
Speaker 3: of backed away from it because you can win the battles,
Speaker 3: but you have to be totally invested in order to
Speaker 3: you know, like if you're going to grow up against
Speaker 3: the guy that pulls you over, let's say for improper
Speaker 3: lane change. Okay, if I move from one lane to
Speaker 3: another and I don't use my blinker and the cop
Speaker 3: wants to give me a citation, there's no injured party.
Speaker 3: And what Supreme Court case law has stated is that
Speaker 3: there's no injured party, there's no crime. What you have
Speaker 3: done is you've you've violated a code, but you haven't
Speaker 3: broken the law.
Speaker 4: Now, the resting.
Speaker 3: Officer doesn't really know that, so he's not going to
Speaker 3: really be very pleasant. And but you know, if you
Speaker 3: have your superior titles in place and you know what
Speaker 3: you're doing, you're still going to have to go to
Speaker 3: court and deal with the whole process. And it's just
Speaker 3: it's a lot of really difficult battling that people have
Speaker 3: to decide if they want to go down that road.
Speaker 2: So I see, so, would would you I recognize what
Speaker 2: you're saying. Does this I'm assuming this all folds into
Speaker 2: the Sovereign citizen movement?
Speaker 1: Does it? Would you say that it does?
Speaker 3: That terminology is a trigger term that was actually created
Speaker 3: by the CIA or some alphabet group to demonize people
Speaker 3: that are breaking free from this tyranny, very much like
Speaker 3: the term conspiracy theory theorist was created by the CIA
Speaker 3: in a bulletin in nineteen sixty three. That's one of
Speaker 3: the most successful effective mind control terms ever created, spiracy theorist.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, you boldly use it on the title of
Speaker 2: your book, The Conspiracy Theorist Survival Guide. Yes so, and
Speaker 2: and I really what I wanted to start this show
Speaker 2: off was with this that book was the writing of
Speaker 2: this book? Was this like your foray into the world
Speaker 2: of I don't even know what to call this an
Speaker 2: alternative research or whatever it was, was was your first
Speaker 2: of all? The question I guess would be when did
Speaker 2: you start getting into these sorts of ideas, and after
Speaker 2: you did, was it did you write this book afterwards?
Speaker 1: Or what was going on with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, about seven years ago I was I don't know,
Speaker 3: I like everybody else, just doing life and I was
Speaker 3: day trading at the time, and I came across the
Speaker 3: fact that the Federal Reserve wasn't federal. It appeared r
Speaker 3: is though it's a government entity, it's this white building
Speaker 3: in Washington, but it's actually private banks. And I thought, well,
Speaker 3: if that's not true, what else isn't true? And that
Speaker 3: statement is the genesis of this journey that people go
Speaker 3: start going down. People say call it the rabbit hole,
Speaker 3: or you know, they are branded a conspiracy theorist. Then
Speaker 3: what it really is is you begin to question officialdom.
Speaker 3: And what you find is you start to question, you
Speaker 3: start turning over rocks, and you start finding things under
Speaker 3: a lot of rocks. You might find out you might
Speaker 3: begin to question NASA, which a lot of people do,
Speaker 3: whether or not NASA could be this vast conspiracy to
Speaker 3: lie to humanity about space.
Speaker 4: Nine to eleven was a very seminal event.
Speaker 3: For a lot of people because there's just a lot.
Speaker 4: Of things that don't add up.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you look into it, it's pretty hard
Speaker 3: not to see that they're not telling.
Speaker 4: Us the truth. And you know, it goes from one
Speaker 4: thing to another.
Speaker 3: Well, what happened with me is that this created and
Speaker 3: ever increasing chasm between my wife and I and it
Speaker 3: turns out to be very common. Over the last eight years,
Speaker 3: I've interacted with hundreds of people whose spouses have divorced them.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's not like we don't understand being
Speaker 3: tactful and wisdom and loving and timy and not pushing
Speaker 3: things on people.
Speaker 4: But the analogy that I.
Speaker 3: Use is if two atheists are married and one of
Speaker 3: them finds God right and they become really devoted to God,
Speaker 3: and the other one doesn't, and the atheist spouse tolerates
Speaker 3: them for a while, but then eventually the atheist spouse
Speaker 3: comes to them and says, listen, I'm happy for you,
Speaker 3: but you're gonna have to either pick this Jesus or me,
Speaker 3: And they're issued and ultimatum. And that's what happened with me,
Speaker 3: And that's what happens with a lot of people we
Speaker 3: call them truthers. There's definitely two groups, and it goes.
Speaker 4: Back to the original observation.
Speaker 3: The first group, the truther group, are people that are
Speaker 3: now questioning everything, whereas this other group isn't. They actually
Speaker 3: will tell you I don't know and I don't want
Speaker 3: to know, yes, and then that creates relational chasm that it's.
Speaker 2: Okay, So have you John, have you yourself lost family
Speaker 2: members due to these sorts of uh, yes, you have okay.
Speaker 3: Yes. My wife asked me to leave after twenty four
Speaker 3: years of marriage. She said, I don't want to be
Speaker 3: married to you. We're in two different worlds now. The
Speaker 3: prior two years before that, I never said anything to
Speaker 3: her or the kids. But what I've learned is it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter because the cat's out of the bag and
Speaker 3: they're you know, the mind control programming on these topics
Speaker 3: is so so successful. The way I describe it is
Speaker 3: when you try to leave the matrix, the matrix doesn't
Speaker 3: treat you very well. There's a great picture of it
Speaker 3: in the movie with.
Speaker 4: The Truman Show.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen that with Jim Carrey And he's
Speaker 3: actually in a TV studio and he doesn't know it,
Speaker 3: but he starts seeing things that just don't add up,
Speaker 3: and finally he realizes he's in this TV show and
Speaker 3: he starts to try to leave, and as he's driving
Speaker 3: out of town, all traffic comes up, and then you know,
Speaker 3: he's kids out of town and there's like a rainstorm
Speaker 3: and then there's an accidents, and so that's a really
Speaker 3: good picture of what it's like when you start to
Speaker 3: question NASA on the flatter Earth and the underground bases,
Speaker 3: and you know, all these things are treated as though
Speaker 3: you're a boob like you you are, you're, you have holatosis,
Speaker 3: you're you're you're treated very very severely poorly, like.
Speaker 4: If you go to family gatherings or whatever, you know,
Speaker 4: you'll be attacked in a lot of ways. So, yes,
Speaker 4: it's very difficult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I understand, And look, I'm I'm sorry to
Speaker 2: hear that, and I'm I'm not I truly you know,
Speaker 2: I feel for you there.
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm.
Speaker 2: Not going to give you I know I told you
Speaker 2: coming on the show that like I'm going to give
Speaker 2: you some pushback on your belief. But look, I understand
Speaker 2: you're going to the I understand that you've made sacrifices
Speaker 2: and that you are standing up for what you believe in.
Speaker 2: So I respect you, Okay, I just want to put
Speaker 2: that out there, and I don't want to disrespect you
Speaker 2: or your situation because clearly you've.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 2: But what I will say is that I'm I Actually,
Speaker 2: what I will say is that I feel that I've
Speaker 2: gone through the same process like I I too woke up,
Speaker 2: I guess to use that terminology.
Speaker 1: This this was quite a few years earlier.
Speaker 2: This was like in the mid two thousands, I got
Speaker 2: into uh nine to eleven truth and so not to
Speaker 2: the extent that you've gone through that I've I've lost
Speaker 2: people do to it. However, I do know that in
Speaker 2: sharing this sort of information with others that definitely, you know,
Speaker 2: people thought I was, you know, out of my mind
Speaker 2: and things like that. But I've been very fortunate. I'm
Speaker 2: a very fortunate case where somehow I've been able to
Speaker 2: maintain and keep close relationships. So I'll say I'm very
Speaker 2: lucky in that regard. However, over time, I have to
Speaker 2: say that for me personally, I'm at this space in
Speaker 2: my truth and career where I'm really starting to kind
Speaker 2: of like cycle back around and not just question the
Speaker 2: very premise of you know, like living this life. But
Speaker 2: and not with every single topic or every single idea
Speaker 2: that's putting out there. I'm not saying, like every single
Speaker 2: idea that you have, but just as a whole, I
Speaker 2: see a lot of people putting this information out for
Speaker 2: terrible reasons, and and and and there's so many people
Speaker 2: have come along the way that have just sured me
Speaker 2: to this whole thing. So I mean, what, what would
Speaker 2: you say? Have you noticed that perhaps like have you noticed,
Speaker 2: for instance, going on different shows. I'm sure you've been
Speaker 2: honest to shows like this. Have you ever gone on
Speaker 2: a show and then afterwards been like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I don't think that host actually cares about any of this.
Speaker 2: I think they're just pretending to care. Do you think
Speaker 2: that ever happens? Because I have to say that over
Speaker 2: these years, I'll just be frankly honest, there's like tons
Speaker 2: of Charlatans out there in this space, and it's done
Speaker 2: a number on me, That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1: What would you say that?
Speaker 3: I think people get burned out and they get jaded,
Speaker 3: and they get trapped in a you know, podcast could
Speaker 3: be their source of income, so they might be just
Speaker 3: dialing it in, like just going through the motions.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I also noticed I made a correlation because I have
Speaker 3: done about fifty podcast interviews, and what I noticed was
Speaker 3: there was a correlation between how conspiratorial a podcaster was
Speaker 3: and if they would ask me this question. The question
Speaker 3: that they would ask me would be something along the
Speaker 3: lines of insinuating.
Speaker 4: That I have character flaws and that's why I.
Speaker 1: Got divorced, okay, And what.
Speaker 3: I found was that the more rabbit holes a podcaster
Speaker 3: was down, the less likely they were to.
Speaker 1: Ask me that question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no, And let me tell you, I'm
Speaker 2: not about to ask you that. I don't think that's
Speaker 2: the case with you. I let me tell you, I
Speaker 2: understand what you're going through. I get it, Yes, So
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case whatsoever. I get the
Speaker 2: situation you're in. I'm just I'm where I'm coming from
Speaker 2: is I've done this for a long time, and I
Speaker 2: don't know. I question not only my motivations for doing
Speaker 2: certain things, certainly my ideas aged over time. Now that's
Speaker 2: not to say that I all in all that I
Speaker 2: still have alternative views.
Speaker 1: I do, but it's a complicated space. All of this,
Speaker 1: I will say that, Well.
Speaker 3: The result of that observation was I did a talk
Speaker 3: called help. I have more than ten rabbit holes in
Speaker 3: my portfolio. So what I learned is that the more
Speaker 3: rabbit holes you go down, the less capable the truth
Speaker 3: is at coexisting with a normy spouse or normy friends.
Speaker 3: Because remember, the presenting characteristic of the normy is they
Speaker 3: don't know, and they don't want to know. They essentially
Speaker 3: are protecting what I call their happy life, and they're
Speaker 3: chasing the American dream. They believe in all of the
Speaker 3: narratives that they're presented with, and anybody that comes along
Speaker 3: and starts to point out the things that are not
Speaker 3: true are like a buzzkill. They're like Debbie Downer and
Speaker 3: and the person's like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 4: I'm having too much fun.
Speaker 3: So that creates a really, really intenuable relational chasm because
Speaker 3: the priority of the truther changes overnight.
Speaker 4: They're on a war footing now.
Speaker 3: Because a lot of the things that Truthers are discovering
Speaker 3: turn out to be like eugenics programs, like the people
Speaker 3: that are running the world are psychos and you know
Speaker 3: you can see that now for instance, both Florida, well
Speaker 3: Tennessee has done it, but Florida's about to pass passing laws.
Speaker 4: To ban chemtrails.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's a very significant proof that chemtrails are
Speaker 3: true and they're not of conspiracy theory. When you have
Speaker 3: states passing laws banning them.
Speaker 2: What what verbiage did they use to describe? Do they
Speaker 2: call them chemtrails? Yes, look you can google it.
Speaker 3: Look google Tennessee passes lag banning chemtrails. So what that
Speaker 3: tells you is that there are powers to out there
Speaker 3: that are spraying us like bugs. And Dean Whittiger has
Speaker 3: a website and he's like the main guy studying it.
Speaker 3: And they actually were able to get a plane with
Speaker 3: all of the sophisticated equipment to go up and fly
Speaker 3: right into the chemtrails behind one of the planes, and
Speaker 3: they recorded what's in the chemtrails, and it's barium salts
Speaker 3: and aluminum particulate which are extremely toxic to humans. And
Speaker 3: there's all kinds of reasons, ideas of agendas there, but
Speaker 3: essentially it's it's a existential threat. And so here you are, like,
Speaker 3: for me, it was Saturday was landscaping. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: reconcile the fact that I'm looking up at the sky
Speaker 3: and it's crisscrossed, crisscrossed with all these lines in the
Speaker 3: sky that are springd god knows what on us. And
Speaker 3: I'm down here on the front lawn with my wife
Speaker 3: who's just putting bushes in and doing this due life,
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm looking up and I tried explaining
Speaker 3: it to her and she's like, you're nuts, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: They're just contrails. Well, now we've been vindicated because the
Speaker 3: states aren't going to pass laws banning them.
Speaker 1: If it's just contrails, what about this idea I want
Speaker 1: to see? If?
Speaker 2: What about the idea of walking in two worlds?
Speaker 1: John?
Speaker 2: Because I correct me if I'm incorrect about this, because
Speaker 2: I myself am not a Christian.
Speaker 5: I know what you are.
Speaker 2: Yes, is there not a concept in Christianity that we're
Speaker 2: kind of living in this fallen world that can never
Speaker 2: be repaired?
Speaker 1: The the material.
Speaker 2: World we live in, there's nothing we can do to
Speaker 2: help it. However, we personally can be saved by Jesus
Speaker 2: right and be born again that sort of thing. However,
Speaker 2: that does not mean that us being saved that we
Speaker 2: are in turn saving a broken world. So does that
Speaker 2: and again, correct me once you answer this if I'm
Speaker 2: wrong about that, because I may well be. But doesn't
Speaker 2: that kind of illustrate that if we're living in this
Speaker 2: world that can't is broken and always has been. You
Speaker 2: look back through history, hasn't always kind of been this way?
Speaker 2: Does that not tell us that, Okay, we can we
Speaker 2: can have religion and we can save ourselves that way,
Speaker 2: and that's good. But don't we kind of have to
Speaker 2: walk in both worlds where we can only do so
Speaker 2: much for the world as a whole, but at least
Speaker 2: we have saved ourselves. Maybe we can save our others
Speaker 2: spiritually or whatever. But like you following what I'm saying here,
Speaker 2: like like what is the end goal in Like, are
Speaker 2: we not kind of forced into this situation where we
Speaker 2: can only do so much?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's a scripture that says we are in the world,
Speaker 3: but not of the world. So there is a what
Speaker 3: I call sanctified willful ignorance. So remember the presenting characteristic
Speaker 3: of the normy is I don't know and I don't
Speaker 3: want to know. Well, there's a certain point where that's
Speaker 3: actually a healthy thing, because you don't want to be
Speaker 3: become morose and bogged down with all of this evil
Speaker 3: and you're just depressed and fearful and all that.
Speaker 4: I understand that. I understand that.
Speaker 3: But but the normy looks alight. Let's call them the unconvinced,
Speaker 3: so it's not a derogatory term. The unconvinced looks at
Speaker 3: the truth or with disdain and suggests that they're us sessed.
Speaker 3: In other words, they have a character flaw that's exhibited
Speaker 3: in an over emphasis on these things. Right. But my
Speaker 3: observation is that if you're in a burning building, you're
Speaker 3: supposed to be obsessed. That's the correct human response because
Speaker 3: the threat level is so high, and that is where
Speaker 3: the conflict comes because what the truther finds out are
Speaker 3: things like the.
Speaker 4: Vax is not for the virus.
Speaker 1: The virus was for the vax.
Speaker 3: That was a I just saw the head of cancer
Speaker 3: doctor in Japan said the vaccine is a murder weapon.
Speaker 3: And you have top virologists in the world that call
Speaker 3: it a bio weapon. And so this is a premeditated
Speaker 3: attempt to call humanity. Now that's so evil that most
Speaker 3: people can't even get their heads around that. But now
Speaker 3: we have basically been vindicated. That's exactly what the whole
Speaker 3: medical emergency was. It's a eugenics program because the elites
Speaker 3: believe that the world is overpopulated and they want to
Speaker 3: cull the herd because that's how they look at us.
Speaker 3: They look at us like useless eaters.
Speaker 1: I haven't I have another. Oh I'm sorry, go ahead,
Speaker 1: John kie King.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was just going to say that that
Speaker 3: type of thinking is so foreign to most people that
Speaker 3: they reject it and won't even look into the evidence.
Speaker 3: So then what you're left with as a truther is
Speaker 3: you and especially as a father and a husband with children,
Speaker 3: So my children are potentially getting lined up to take
Speaker 3: an axe, and I have to try to intervene when
Speaker 3: my spouse doesn't agree.
Speaker 4: Those are very difficult dynamics.
Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely, very yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're bringing up a very important topic, which
Speaker 2: I think is straits. I'll just give my personal point
Speaker 2: of view on this, which is you are bringing it
Speaker 2: up perfectly that for some reason, we have chosen collectively
Speaker 2: to live in a world of extremes where you have
Speaker 2: to go all in on, as you're saying, being enormy
Speaker 2: or unconvinced, in this case, being unconvinced that a vaccine
Speaker 2: could even cause damage. And what I see out there
Speaker 2: is a lack of conversation about anything. Trying to come
Speaker 2: up with answers about this issue, like that comes from
Speaker 2: a simple question. I would just say, this, could a
Speaker 2: vaccine cause an adverse effect? Like asking that simple question,
Speaker 2: What you end up getting is not a dialogue. You
Speaker 2: just get people on one extreme end saying there's no
Speaker 2: possible way that a vaccine could ever damage anybody ever,
Speaker 2: and anybody who says so is a conspiracy theori. So
Speaker 2: you get that on one end, and then that kind
Speaker 2: of of breeds and extreme reaction, where I would say
Speaker 2: that you're on the other end, like, look, these vaccines
Speaker 2: are killing us. They're designed to kill us. Of course
Speaker 2: that's what's going on. It's a deep population. It makes
Speaker 2: sense that there's two extremes when we're not allowed to
Speaker 2: have an actual conversation about anything. So I'm this is
Speaker 2: my personal frustration with everything. It's like we can't just
Speaker 2: talk about anything without going all the way one way
Speaker 2: or all the way the other way. And frankly, I've
Speaker 2: had it, and I'll be honest, I feel like you
Speaker 2: are on one extreme, which I'm not.
Speaker 6: Me.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go on that extreme, but I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna go on the other extreme either of the normy saying, oh, vaccine,
Speaker 2: anybody who says a vaccine could be bad at all
Speaker 2: is crazy. It's like, no, it's like, that's not crazy
Speaker 2: at all. Can we can we actually talk about something
Speaker 2: for once?
Speaker 1: Ever? Do you see my frustration? John?
Speaker 2: You see where I'm coming from.
Speaker 3: Not really, I don't quite understand the concept of extreme,
Speaker 3: because I think truths are absolute.
Speaker 4: So, for instance, we can't both be right.
Speaker 3: If if what you have in this vaccine, which is
Speaker 3: a gene therapy that alters your DNA that is now
Speaker 3: proven to be a it's a self replicating synthetic quantum dot.
Speaker 3: What's the word I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's.
Speaker 3: Designed to basically turn you into the borg. That's not
Speaker 3: something that's designed to help humans. And it's and the
Speaker 3: intent is to enslave and kill people. Okay, So either
Speaker 3: that's true or it's not. And if it is true,
Speaker 3: then there's no middle ground.
Speaker 1: It's so what about this?
Speaker 2: What about if the vaccine was made in good faith
Speaker 2: by medical professionals who believe that it's going to help.
Speaker 1: People and make them better.
Speaker 2: From COVID nineteen, the coronavirus wrote whatever you want to
Speaker 2: call it, that the majority of people working on it
Speaker 2: believed in what they were doing.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: The fact that I was that was rushed into production
Speaker 2: and it was like you know, operation warp speed.
Speaker 1: So that would you know?
Speaker 2: That lends itself to if there's any issues, well, we
Speaker 2: didn't have time to test properly. But of course it
Speaker 2: works because we say it works, and so yeah, any
Speaker 2: adversary effects probably are happening.
Speaker 1: Is it killing people? Yes? Very likely.
Speaker 2: Is everybody that ever gets cancer ever anymore from the
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty onward getting it because of the COVID vaccine?
Speaker 1: No, I doubt it. But could it cause cancer? Sure?
Speaker 1: And might it because it was rushed out?
Speaker 7: Sure?
Speaker 2: So see what I mean like, there can be a middle,
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Speaker 3: Well, the key term in the key term in that
Speaker 3: hypothesis is how you started the sentence with what if?
Speaker 3: So my point is that the evidence doesn't bear out
Speaker 3: that there was good intentions. The evidence is clear and
Speaker 3: this is.
Speaker 4: Not just me.
Speaker 3: This is the leading brologists in the world are saying
Speaker 3: in writing that this is a bioweapon and it's designed
Speaker 3: for one thing, to kill people, and there's all kinds
Speaker 3: of lawsuits and there's Nuremberg trials and this is what,
Speaker 3: you know what, the evidence is now proven, it's not
Speaker 3: even up for debate. So then you have to deal
Speaker 3: with the ramifications of the fact that you have people
Speaker 3: in power like Hitler, who are psychos, but they're in power,
Speaker 3: and that's just so foreign to most people that they
Speaker 3: try to split the baby basically and try to lessen
Speaker 3: the reaction of the fact that you have psychos running
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 2: Well, I can understand how a virologist might be saying
Speaker 2: these things, But then that begs this question, are those
Speaker 2: virologists they're saying this is a bioweapon? Are they saying
Speaker 2: that in good faith? Now, if we're prone to believe
Speaker 2: that authority figures don't ever say things in good faith
Speaker 2: because they're always lying to us, could they not be
Speaker 2: lying about this even though it would not make sense
Speaker 2: from you know, our point of view is like, oh,
Speaker 2: they're telling the truth that we want to hear, that
Speaker 2: this is a bioweapon that's meant to kill us. Aren't
Speaker 2: they just yet again telling us another lie? You follow
Speaker 2: my chance out here? Like, how do we know that
Speaker 2: they're saying that in good faith? I don't know that,
Speaker 2: Like that may be their opinion, but is it might have?
Speaker 2: Might they have some strange ulterior motive that we're not
Speaker 2: seeing to say that sort of thing. Might they want
Speaker 2: us to think that this is a bioweapon about that
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3: You decide who you believe telling the truth and not.
Speaker 2: And I'm not attacking I'm not attacking you, John, I
Speaker 2: am competent that I'm completely sympathetic to where you're coming from.
Speaker 2: And I know that a lot of people believe that,
Speaker 2: and I'm willing to believe it too. But my frustration
Speaker 2: is continues to be the fact that there is never
Speaker 2: any dialogue about anything, and I don't see how there
Speaker 2: ever will be, honestly, But I'll also say this, what
Speaker 2: about because it seems to me there's another side of
Speaker 2: this too in that conspiracy theory on its face seems
Speaker 2: like it's a losing battle. As you say, you try
Speaker 2: to present this to normal people, they just shoot you down. However,
Speaker 2: being involved in this for so many years, it seems
Speaker 2: like a lot of alternative ideas have gained traction actually
Speaker 2: in the mainstream, so much so that I would argue
Speaker 2: that our dear leader, the president that's coming in president
Speaker 2: like now, both times he got in there, he ran
Speaker 2: because in part he was pandering too conspiracy ideas. He
Speaker 2: was using them, and he knows that he's using them.
Speaker 2: And so there's been a success in using these ideas
Speaker 2: to the extent that it has elected a president of
Speaker 2: the United States. So I see that as an issue,
Speaker 2: like if we're just going to be like this realm,
Speaker 2: it begs so many questions. It's like, what does that
Speaker 2: mean that mainstream society is on board enough to believe
Speaker 2: them enough to think that Donald Trump is going to
Speaker 2: save us from the deep state or Satan or whatever.
Speaker 1: Do you see where I'm going there, John?
Speaker 4: Is it a question?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, Like the question is this have
Speaker 2: alternative conspiracy concepts? Do you believe that they have gained
Speaker 2: mainstream traction as I do? Or you you're allowed to
Speaker 2: disagree with me on it?
Speaker 3: Hell no, Yeah, it's raining red pills. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't think you can mock people right now that believe
Speaker 3: in UFOs When they're all flying all over the place.
Speaker 3: Now yeah, yeah, And you know, like, like I said,
Speaker 3: you can't You can't tell me that chemi trails are
Speaker 3: a conspiracy theory anymore because two states have passed laws
Speaker 3: banning them. I mean, how much proof do you want?
Speaker 3: And then the idea of pandering versus agreeing with is
Speaker 3: a way of characterizing the truth as something that isn't true.
Speaker 3: So I don't see Trump as pandering to people who
Speaker 3: believe in conspiracy theories.
Speaker 4: I see the reverse. I see the.
Speaker 3: People that want the truth no longer to become up
Speaker 3: and God sending someone that's actually going to eradicate the
Speaker 3: falsehood and all the narratives that we've been given that
Speaker 3: aren't true, which is not pandering, it's just agreeing with truth.
Speaker 3: And what's obvious to many people is that tyranny has
Speaker 3: been running rampant where they have pornographic books in the
Speaker 3: libraries for kindergarten kids and up, and parents go in
Speaker 3: and they object in the city council meetings or the
Speaker 3: PTA or the school board meetings, and they read the
Speaker 3: books and they're escorted out by police because they're not
Speaker 3: allowed to read pornography in these meetings and they're like, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is what you're giving our kids. And then those
Speaker 3: parents get visited by the FBI and they're threatened. Well
Speaker 3: that's outrageous. And so Trump comes then and he's going
Speaker 3: to eradicate all that stuff. So is that pandering to
Speaker 3: conspiracy theorists or is that somebody that's actually standing up
Speaker 3: for what's right.
Speaker 2: So I gather you are in favor of Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: and that is that true.
Speaker 3: I'm in favor of not having pornography given to kindergarten kids,
Speaker 3: aren't you.
Speaker 2: Well okay, fine, but that doesn't mean that I'm on
Speaker 2: board with everything that Donald Trump says. But okay, so
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from exactly.
Speaker 1: Again, I'm not Again, I'm not mad. I'm not mad.
Speaker 2: About everybody like believing that Trump is whatever they think
Speaker 2: that he is. Yeah, and I'm not mad about anybody
Speaker 2: really believing anything. I'm just saying that I've been in
Speaker 2: this space for a while and I want it. I
Speaker 2: want it to be I don't want to say that
Speaker 2: it does more harm than good, but I just can't
Speaker 2: help but keep coming around to that because.
Speaker 3: I don't know what do you think does more harm
Speaker 3: to good.
Speaker 1: Well, just.
Speaker 2: The general use of conspiracy theories, And I'm on board
Speaker 2: with you. I think the term conspiracy theory is beyond
Speaker 2: problematic because of its origin and it's it was used
Speaker 2: as a weapon against just critical thinking. Absolutely, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: there with you, one hundred percent. That's what that is.
Speaker 2: That's what makes even like that's just. And yet I'm
Speaker 2: using the term so I understand that, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: you know, a victim of sorts in trying to sort
Speaker 2: all this out. Yeah, but these waters get murky real quick.
Speaker 2: And also, I don't know if you're on board with this,
Speaker 2: but what about just the idea that we're living in
Speaker 2: a digitized space, we're online.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you where you've researched most of this,
Speaker 2: But I would say for the average person, you're learning
Speaker 2: about this online different.
Speaker 1: Websites and whatever.
Speaker 2: I would just say that the online space is one
Speaker 2: where multiple campaigns of influence operations are being taken out
Speaker 2: or carried out all the time. And it is my
Speaker 2: belief that conspiracy series alternative ideas are woven into all
Speaker 2: different influence operations with the expressed intent that we believe
Speaker 2: these many different ideas and there's all sorts of different
Speaker 2: reasons for that, but I personally believe that a lot
Speaker 2: of this has been weaponized against us, and also that
Speaker 2: the digital space lends itself well, we're getting trapped by this.
Speaker 1: Is that a crazy idea?
Speaker 5: John No?
Speaker 3: I mean, we only know what we're told, We only
Speaker 3: know what we get from different media sources. So if
Speaker 3: you're a citizen journalist, your podcast, or your content creator,
Speaker 3: you form a worldview based on the different sources that
Speaker 3: you can get access to, everything from YouTube to rumble
Speaker 3: to TikTok to x any type of other news outlets,
Speaker 3: and you know, the best you can do is try
Speaker 3: to triangulate. You listen to multiple people talk about the
Speaker 3: same topic from the and.
Speaker 4: Everybody has a bias.
Speaker 3: But then you have to basically formulate your own world
Speaker 3: you based on the limited information that you're getting. And
Speaker 3: the issue with truthers is that they are operating out
Speaker 3: of an instinct for survival, because again, these topics that
Speaker 3: we're learning about are pulling back the veil on the
Speaker 3: fact that the people that are in power are not
Speaker 3: public servants. They're not people that want to help you.
Speaker 3: Look at what happened in North Carolina when that hurricane
Speaker 3: came through, and then Biden's going to send another twenty
Speaker 3: four billion to Ukraine and they don't have seven hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty dollars for these US citizens that are starving
Speaker 3: to death in the mountains of North Carolina. So those
Speaker 3: are real life examples of where the power structure is
Speaker 3: not helping you. Okay, it's not on your side, and
Speaker 3: then you have to then decide how you're going to
Speaker 3: respond to that.
Speaker 4: Who are you going to believe?
Speaker 3: Are they just napt or is this governmental system weaponized
Speaker 3: against its own people? Because that's what it seems like.
Speaker 3: It sure seems like they want USTAD when they do
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Can't they take the twenty four billion
Speaker 3: and give it to the people in North Carolina instead
Speaker 3: of the Ukraines people?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's tough and I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just there's so many different actors out there now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's difference.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can just be online on social media
Speaker 2: or whatever, and these operations are cloaked. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: You don't understand. It just seems like another piece of
Speaker 2: alternative information coming at you, but you don't know that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe a foreign government is running a influence operation through
Speaker 2: the social media set you're on, and you know, like,
Speaker 2: are you going to fall for something just because it
Speaker 2: sounds when these things, these things can be crafted so
Speaker 2: that they sound like something we believe, or it sounds
Speaker 2: like it's even anti establishment, But we find when we
Speaker 2: peel back the source of that information that it's coming from,
Speaker 2: you know, and establishment, maybe it's not the establishment that
Speaker 2: we're claiming. For instance, if we're buying into a Russian
Speaker 2: propaganda campaign, that campaign very well could be even pointing
Speaker 2: out partial truths about how our government here domestically, the
Speaker 2: US government.
Speaker 1: Is correct, and it might be correct.
Speaker 2: By buying into this, we're also doing a favor to
Speaker 2: that foreign government. And so you see how there's just
Speaker 2: so much subtlety here that I think is always being missed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are fed up trying
Speaker 3: to figure it out, and they've just kind of pulled
Speaker 3: the covers over their head too. I get that a
Speaker 3: lot from some of my listeners. They're just like, I
Speaker 3: can't keep up with this all, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: I give up and they just they don't vote anymore,
Speaker 3: they don't look at news, They just are doing their life.
Speaker 3: And so I can't do that myself because I am
Speaker 3: on a mission and I essentially have a ministry two
Speaker 3: people that are waking up. They're discovering these things that
Speaker 3: they're undeniable, and like I said, it creates a lot
Speaker 3: of conflict with their children, their friends, their spouses. So
Speaker 3: Wake Up or Else is a Christian fellowship for the
Speaker 3: Truther community because what I found out is when Jesus
Speaker 3: gets a hold of you, the world persecutes you. And
Speaker 3: then as a Christian, when you start to become a Truther,
Speaker 3: the Church persecutes you. So I and that's the reason
Speaker 3: for my book. My book is not. If you go
Speaker 3: to Amazon, there's two kinds of conspiracy theory books. One
Speaker 3: is the books that are trying to convince you that
Speaker 3: these certain conspiracies are true, so they'll show you all
Speaker 3: the evidence that the moonlanding is fake.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: The second type of books, which are just as prolific,
Speaker 3: are all of the books trying to convince everyone that
Speaker 3: people that believe in the moonlanding being fake are crazy.
Speaker 3: So they're anti conspiracy theory books. My book is neither
Speaker 3: of those. My book is not written to convince you
Speaker 3: that the conspiracy theories are true. It's written for the
Speaker 3: people that have decided they're true, and their spouse and
Speaker 3: their friends and their family hasn't.
Speaker 4: And that's very.
Speaker 3: Common, and there's a lot millions of people like that,
Speaker 3: and so that book is there to validate your perceptions
Speaker 3: and to let you know you're not alone, and then
Speaker 3: give you a lot of anecdotes and guidance to be
Speaker 3: able to try to navigate these difficult waters, because it's
Speaker 3: very difficult when you wake up to these things.
Speaker 2: Sure, and I'm not about to disagree with that whatsoever.
Speaker 2: So that would be the Conspiracy Theorist Survival Guide.
Speaker 1: Yes, spoke with that.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's useful to at least just touch
Speaker 2: on this other book, The Mandella Effects Supernatural Bible Changes.
Speaker 1: This book is. Is this a new book for you? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just finished it about four months ago, I
Speaker 3: think about four months ago, and you can download it
Speaker 3: for free from my website. It's at wakeupor Else dot com.
Speaker 3: You can get both the books there for free. If
Speaker 3: you want a hard copy. They are on Amazon.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool cool, and the main idea behind that is
Speaker 2: that let me see if I understand and please correct
Speaker 2: everything that's incorrect. Biblical scripture is literally now written differently
Speaker 2: in the printed texts that are what we see as Bibles.
Speaker 2: The printed text is different than it was. Yeah, is
Speaker 2: that what we're looking at?
Speaker 4: Are you familiar with the Mendela effect at all?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: But explaining it I think would be good for you.
Speaker 3: So the Mendela effect is a recent phenomenon that all
Speaker 3: of humanity is experiencing you as well. It's not one
Speaker 3: group of having this experience and others aren't. Everybody's happy.
Speaker 3: It's just the conclusion that people come to, which is different.
Speaker 3: So the experience is that things that you vividly remember
Speaker 3: no longer exist as you vividly remember them. And those
Speaker 3: are things like your name. So if you woke up
Speaker 3: your name is Aaron and you woke up and now
Speaker 3: it's Arnold, so similar. But your bank statements going back
Speaker 3: twenty years all say arnold. Your driver's license is arnold,
Speaker 3: your birth certificate, your credit cards, everything is arnold.
Speaker 4: Now my question is.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's possible that you could convince yourself
Speaker 3: that you were just misremembering your own name all this time.
Speaker 1: I see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're talking about the Mandel effect, about something
Speaker 2: so foundational to your own person that it's that integral.
Speaker 3: Well, do you think you could convince yourself in that
Speaker 3: hypothetical scenario that I just laid out that you because
Speaker 3: all of the empirical evidence is pointing to the fact
Speaker 3: that your name is Arnold, right. But now, sure you
Speaker 3: have this human faculty called certainty, which is an emotional state.
Speaker 3: It's based on your intuition and your integrity that has
Speaker 3: a very profound effect on our decision processes and what
Speaker 3: we do. So my question is, do you think, and
Speaker 3: this is a kind of a personal conviction thing you're
Speaker 3: going to have, do you think you could convince yourself
Speaker 3: that you had just been misremembering your own name your
Speaker 3: entire life?
Speaker 1: I would hope.
Speaker 2: I think I would hold out and say, no, I
Speaker 2: know that what my name is as you're saying the conviction.
Speaker 2: I would hold to the conviction and I would try
Speaker 2: to make sense of things from there. So that's the
Speaker 2: essence of the Mendella effect.
Speaker 1: Is that a yes, I couldn't apology.
Speaker 2: Can convince me that I don't remember my own name.
Speaker 2: I don't think they could do that. I hope that
Speaker 2: they couldn't.
Speaker 3: And so what conclusion would you draw? Then, if your
Speaker 3: name is on in all of your documents, what conclusion
Speaker 3: would you draw?
Speaker 4: How could that happen?
Speaker 2: I I it would be a descent into madness. It
Speaker 2: would be a descent into madness. There's just no way
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 3: I'm an unexplainable phenomenon.
Speaker 4: That's that's the answer I'm looking for. Okay.
Speaker 3: So that's our experience, and I have pure reviewed studies
Speaker 3: that prove.
Speaker 4: The number of things.
Speaker 3: One of them is that many of the memories that
Speaker 3: we hold about things that are in pop culture, and
Speaker 3: I'll give you examples in a second, are.
Speaker 4: As vivid as our name.
Speaker 3: So, for instance, if I tell you when I was ten,
Speaker 3: I went to a camp way Wayanda, and then around
Speaker 3: the same time, I went camping with my family, and
Speaker 3: I remember this tent that we were in. All right,
Speaker 3: So could you tell me which one of those two
Speaker 3: memories is more vivid to me?
Speaker 1: I can't tell you what your memories are.
Speaker 3: Forrest or how vivid they are, so nobody really knows
Speaker 3: how vivid somebody's memory is. And actually I have another
Speaker 3: study that shows that what actually contributes to vividness of
Speaker 3: memories is actually the emotional state that you're in when
Speaker 3: you have the memory. So no one can listening can say, well,
Speaker 3: your name is different than you know these other things.
Speaker 4: No, you don't know that, And.
Speaker 3: My studies show that they can be just as vivid. So,
Speaker 3: in other words, we can be very certain about the
Speaker 3: things that I'm about to share with you. As example,
Speaker 3: so for instance, I'll use I'll do something from pop culture.
Speaker 3: So the Disney movie Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs,
Speaker 3: there's a witch. She's standing in front of the mirror
Speaker 3: and she's saying, blank, blank on the wall. Who's the
Speaker 3: fairest of them all? Can remember what she said?
Speaker 2: Mirror mirror on the wall. Who's the fairest of them all?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, what was the retort from the mirror? Is it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: All I wanted was what you just said, mirror mirror
Speaker 3: on the wall. Now the reality is that in this
Speaker 3: timeline or this universe or wherever we are, that's different.
Speaker 3: She never said mirror mirror on the wall. She always
Speaker 3: said magic, mirror on the wall. Now I'll give you
Speaker 3: a few more examples, like let's see, uh, you remember
Speaker 3: the Superman act. Sure's name Christopher.
Speaker 1: How do you say his last name Reeves with it
Speaker 1: ends with Reeves with an s.
Speaker 3: Right, His name has never been Christopher Reeves.
Speaker 4: It was always Christopher Reeve.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 3: Yes, how about Sally, she was the flying nun, flying Field,
Speaker 3: Sally Fields, Sally Fields. Yeah, we all remember, but her
Speaker 3: name has always been Sally Field. How many people are
Speaker 3: in the Jackson five?
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like that could be a trick question
Speaker 2: because I want to say five, but like, did they
Speaker 2: count somebody else as one of them?
Speaker 1: Is that? What's going on there? It's actually six or six?
Speaker 3: Braggs applesider, let me get you, let me get some
Speaker 3: better ones here. What's the place in New York? Grand
Speaker 3: Central Park of station stations? Grand Central Station has always
Speaker 3: been Grand Central Terminal terminal. Do you remember the Pavlov
Speaker 3: dogs experiment where he did something and then he fed
Speaker 3: the dogs. He did something and he fed the dogs.
Speaker 3: You remember what he did?
Speaker 1: He rang a bell?
Speaker 3: Right, He actually never rang a bell. He used a metronome,
Speaker 3: which is bizarre. Okay, Yeah, so that right, there was
Speaker 3: four examples.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and so.
Speaker 3: Now now what I'm going to share with you is
Speaker 3: absolute objective proof that we're not misremembering. And you can
Speaker 3: do this yourself using chat GBT. You can put the
Speaker 3: question into chat GBT that says, I want to calculate
Speaker 3: the probability of something. I'm going to give ten people
Speaker 3: a fill in the blank question. Calculate the probability that
Speaker 3: every person would would guess incorrectly, but they would all
Speaker 3: answer the same way. Now, what you just said is
Speaker 3: what everybody in the world will say. They'll say mirror,
Speaker 3: mirror on the wall, will say Grand Central Station, They'll say,
Speaker 3: you know, uh, cliff notes has always been Cliff's notes,
Speaker 3: and so these are very vivid memories, and everybody gets
Speaker 3: them wrong the same way. Sure, well, that is mathematically impossible.
Speaker 3: It's ten to the two hundredth power because there's actually
Speaker 3: an infinite number of possible answers. So for everyone to
Speaker 3: get it wrong the same way removes the naturalistic explanation
Speaker 3: that we're just misremembering. Well, the human memory isn't reliable, no,
Speaker 3: because we're not misremoving, we're misremembering the same way.
Speaker 1: What this a thought's coming in my mind? John? What if?
Speaker 2: What if this is all just pointing out that conventional
Speaker 2: wisdom is often incorrect, and it's incorrect. Perhaps we are
Speaker 2: all remembering correctly and we all have the same memory,
Speaker 2: but it's not because something has changed Mandela effect. But
Speaker 2: it's just the way that we originally learned it.
Speaker 1: We all learned.
Speaker 2: The wrong thing together, like, for instance, like magic mirror
Speaker 2: the wall. That's probably like the way it was written
Speaker 2: in the original like book or whatever. But somewhere along
Speaker 2: the line, the convention became mirror mirror on the wall.
Speaker 2: Maybe that was like a performance, and then everybody repeated it,
Speaker 2: so the repetition of like the technically incorrect way to
Speaker 2: do it became the conventional wisdom of it, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? And does this not point out that
Speaker 2: conventional wisdom has its flaws. So if we're coming at
Speaker 2: things like yeah, I know that, like, well maybe you
Speaker 2: don't like you think so, but there's a technicality that
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying, this makes course.
Speaker 3: Of course, you're trying to suggest that we're all overridden
Speaker 3: by implanted thoughts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So here's my question.
Speaker 3: Let's say you believe in God, right, and you go
Speaker 3: and you hear a guy on social media saying there
Speaker 3: is no God.
Speaker 4: Are you just.
Speaker 3: Somehow overcome by that consciously adopt the fact that there's
Speaker 3: no God because some guy said.
Speaker 2: It, Well, I wouldn't be. I would not be as
Speaker 2: an individual. But if if something becomes like this group,
Speaker 2: like once something gets repeated again and again again and
Speaker 2: gets to be like this group consensus, to me, it
Speaker 2: almost gets into the realm of group psychology and the
Speaker 2: power of that. If we collectively have missed or have
Speaker 2: re represented something, then that overtakes the original technically correct version. Well,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what the correct version is. It's whatever
Speaker 2: anybody believes. And that's what the power of belief, even
Speaker 2: when it's wrong, it's forced into reality as being right,
Speaker 2: and then the belief it's it's almost an alchemical thing.
Speaker 2: It's like, look, mind over matter, it's it's whatever. If
Speaker 2: you can convince everybody something, that's what matters more.
Speaker 3: Let's just use magic mirror as an example. Where is
Speaker 3: the misquote where someone's saying magic mirror enough times to
Speaker 3: put that into the mind of or No, where's the
Speaker 3: mis quote where people are saying me or mirror on
Speaker 3: social media?
Speaker 1: Where is that?
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, it wouldn't have been on social media
Speaker 2: and I don't. I couldn't tell you each individual.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't have the answer to that. But it just
Speaker 2: seems to me that that's so.
Speaker 3: That's less likely. That's not only less likely, it's statistically
Speaker 3: impossible that an implanted thought could overwhelm the entire human
Speaker 3: race on hundreds, if not thousands of things. Because you
Speaker 3: have everybody in the world, like a billion people will
Speaker 3: say me or mirror, but.
Speaker 2: John, John, I can't, John, I can't help. But I
Speaker 2: can't help. But go back to almost thinking. This is
Speaker 2: the basis of alternative thinking, because you take something that's
Speaker 2: common knowledge, like look, everybody says it's true, but the
Speaker 2: alternateive freethinker says, no, I stand up boldly and proclaim
Speaker 2: that it is not true. And I'm actually citing the
Speaker 2: original text which has been forgotten because everybody's repeating the
Speaker 2: same wrong thing, and everybody believes that, and the belief
Speaker 2: has become reality. Is this not just the foundational event
Speaker 2: for alternative thinking? You catch in my drift here that
Speaker 2: the belief has become the reality, And the strong willed
Speaker 2: freethinker says, no, your beliefs have been implanted in you
Speaker 2: by this process.
Speaker 3: It could be all.
Speaker 2: Different things, but it's erroneous. Now I'm going to present
Speaker 2: you the actual truth of the matter.
Speaker 8: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I can't help but go back to that. Am I crazy?
Speaker 3: Well, no, you're just it's statistically impossible. The math disagrees
Speaker 3: with you. You can't have the entire human race having
Speaker 3: long term memory because I'm not giving you multiple choice questions.
Speaker 3: You're bringing these answers up out of your own long
Speaker 3: term memory. So what you're trying to suggest is that
Speaker 3: the repetition of watching the movie, or like in my case,
Speaker 3: the Bible scriptures are are being overwritten by some supposed
Speaker 3: reference out there in the data sphere. And when you
Speaker 3: do the math on that, it's as improbable as one
Speaker 3: to the two hundredth power.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 3: It's statistically not possible. You can't have the things that
Speaker 3: would have to be repeated so many times to overcome
Speaker 3: all the influences of people watching the movie. Let's say
Speaker 3: they've watched the movie and they heard her say.
Speaker 4: Magic mirror.
Speaker 3: So but when you ask them, they say miror mirror,
Speaker 3: So how did it get into their minds? You're trying
Speaker 3: to say, well.
Speaker 4: There's some other movie out there, which is saying mirror mirror.
Speaker 3: The original movie says magic mirror. Well, where's the movie
Speaker 3: that says meraor mirror. You can't produce it, so you're
Speaker 3: just offering a guess.
Speaker 1: You have no evidence. What I have is evidence.
Speaker 3: I have mathematically on equivocal evidence, which.
Speaker 4: Is our testimony.
Speaker 3: So once you remove an objection from a testimony, it
Speaker 3: gets entered into the court as evidence, which means true
Speaker 3: and valid. So in the absence of an objection, my
Speaker 3: testimony becomes.
Speaker 4: True and valid.
Speaker 3: And I have a billion people that will not only
Speaker 3: say mirror mirror, they'll say cliff notes, they'll say Grand
Speaker 3: Central Stations, they'll say the food of the Loom logo
Speaker 3: had a cornucopia. And then Bible scriptures is even more
Speaker 3: difficult to explain away because if I say, judge not blank,
Speaker 3: ye be judged, would you be able to fill in
Speaker 3: the blank. It's a very famous scripture.
Speaker 1: Judge, judge not lest you be judged. Okay, say it
Speaker 1: one more time, judge not lest ye be judged.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, Now what you just said will come out
Speaker 3: of the mouths of a billion people.
Speaker 4: Because I've been doing this for eight years.
Speaker 3: That scripture has never existed. It doesn't exist in the
Speaker 3: King James Bible in the sixteen eleven, the five revisions,
Speaker 3: the seventeen sixty nine Oxford. The Bible I have here
Speaker 3: on the floor, which is a King James Bible. It
Speaker 3: doesn't exist anywhere yet, it's in the long term memory
Speaker 3: of all of humanity. Now I can do that same
Speaker 3: quiz with nine more scriptures and get you to do
Speaker 3: that as well, and pastors will do it. Now pastors
Speaker 3: have anywhere from ten to fifteen different disciplines that they
Speaker 3: are going to observe as a pastor. They're preparing a sermon,
Speaker 3: they're delivering the sermon, they're reading the Bible, they're memorizing
Speaker 3: the Bible, they're listening to other people speak about the Bible.
Speaker 3: They're listening to Christian music, they're singing Christian music. They
Speaker 3: have a daily devotional. So there's ten. Those are influences
Speaker 3: which are going to reinforce the memory of what's actually
Speaker 3: in the Bible, which is judge, not that you be
Speaker 3: not judged. So I've run the math on the possibility
Speaker 3: of a pastor having his memory overwritten by some misquote, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, you can't find it's just a guess.
Speaker 3: It's a hail Mary guess that the people, like a pastor,
Speaker 3: are misremembering because of misquotes from pop culture. The probabilities
Speaker 3: on that is one in ten. It's ten to the
Speaker 3: twentieth power.
Speaker 4: It's sentillion.
Speaker 3: So it's not misquotes from pop culture that are causing
Speaker 3: pastors to say judge not lest.
Speaker 4: You be judged.
Speaker 3: Or the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away has
Speaker 3: never existed. But every pastor, if I do a fill
Speaker 3: in the blank's question, will answer that, and then when
Speaker 3: I show it to him, he'll have an astonished look
Speaker 3: on him.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not possible.
Speaker 4: So after eight years, I've finally been.
Speaker 3: Able to prove unequivocally, without any debate, that this is
Speaker 3: not misremembering and it's not implanted thoughts. What people say is, well,
Speaker 3: the Plotter's peanuck guy is probably what you're confusing the
Speaker 3: monopoly guy with because a lot of people remember the
Speaker 3: Monopoly guy had a monocle. Now you never had a
Speaker 3: monocle in this reality. So people will say, well, the
Speaker 3: Platter's peanuck guy has a monocle and you're just confusing him. Well,
Speaker 3: let's take that and try to apply it to the
Speaker 3: mirror mirror example. Am I con fused about mirror mirror
Speaker 3: on the wall because the platter's peanut guy has a monocle? No,
Speaker 3: So you'd have to have a surrogate for each of
Speaker 3: the thousand things that humanity is misremembering. Now, you'd have
Speaker 3: to have a surrogate scripture for each scripture that people misremember.
Speaker 4: And there's thirty of them. So this is happening.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Well I will take your word for it, John,
Speaker 2: for now.
Speaker 1: Well, you don't have to take my word for it.
Speaker 3: You have to either bow to the math or you
Speaker 3: have to offer a rational alternative, which in the absence
Speaker 3: of that, there's no objection to my testimony.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not one to bow to math because I
Speaker 2: understand that models can be created in different ways.
Speaker 1: But that's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to I'm not going to go down
Speaker 2: I'm not going down that h road right now. What
Speaker 2: I will suggest, John, is that people do go to
Speaker 2: your website wake up or else stock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they download these books for free. Correct for us,
Speaker 1: they're free?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, wakeuprorels dot com. Is there anything else other
Speaker 2: than your website that you would like to direct people
Speaker 2: to John to.
Speaker 3: To find the YouTube channel wake Up or else where
Speaker 3: most of my content is. And then Rumble, which is
Speaker 3: where we're on now. So we do live streams usually
Speaker 3: Thursdays and Saturdays, and so people can log in and
Speaker 3: participate if they're on this journey and you know, we're
Speaker 3: there to you know, it's a support group type of
Speaker 3: a thing. We're there, we're shoulder to cry on, we're
Speaker 3: letting you know you're not crazy, and we're really delving
Speaker 3: into the Bible changes. I'm about to launch an initiative
Speaker 3: to the entire church where we're setting up a new website.
Speaker 3: It's SBCO International, Supernatural Bible Change Outreach International. We raised
Speaker 3: about three thousand dollars last month and we're setting this
Speaker 3: new website up and we're going to advertise to give
Speaker 3: the book away and my goal is to give away
Speaker 3: ten million copies in the next six months. Oh okay,
Speaker 3: and that is going to start a dialogue about the
Speaker 3: fact that this is in fact happening and bring a
Speaker 3: reformation to the church.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, sir, look, hey, I commend your I know
Speaker 2: what you're doing is you're doing it in good faith.
Speaker 2: I completely respect your mission. I appreciate what you're doing,
Speaker 2: I really do. I disagree with a lot of what
Speaker 2: you say, but I don't care. I don't care if
Speaker 2: I don't agree with you. I've just thrown ideas out
Speaker 2: there and I had. I really enjoyed talking to you, John,
Speaker 2: I mean as well.
Speaker 1: This was really good.
Speaker 4: You've got a great radio voice.
Speaker 3: It's like the perfect radio voice.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I will say this, I'll say for the listener. I'm
Speaker 2: not quite sure what's going on, and I'm a little
Speaker 2: bit concerned in that I don't know where Chuck is.
Speaker 2: I I've been sending the messages. I I don't know
Speaker 2: where he is. Well concerned about that. Honestly, this is
Speaker 2: where I would be ending the show and we'd be
Speaker 2: starting the Uncle Show, and I would ask you, John,
Speaker 2: if you want to stick around.
Speaker 1: But honestly, what's going on. I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on on Chuck's and right now, which is unusual unusual.
Speaker 2: I'm here, you're here, Okay, Okay, you're there, Chuck, Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I had to step away a few moments and I
Speaker 9: couldn't get back, but I'm back, So we.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 2: I was starting, I was I was just saying I
Speaker 2: was literally getting worried there.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad to hear you're good. I'm just a
Speaker 1: bit ill, that's all.
Speaker 4: Sorry about that.
Speaker 2: No, No, don't be sorry at all, Chuck, not at all?
Speaker 2: Uh would is it okay to go to the Uncle
Speaker 2: show now?
Speaker 1: Chuck? Absolutely? Okay, So we will do that. So I
Speaker 1: will turn and go back to you, John, John, are
Speaker 1: you still there?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 1: Would you like to stay for the Uncle Show? Or
Speaker 1: would would you for to just get going and and
Speaker 1: and then go?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 4: I do have to drop off.
Speaker 3: I got an early day tomorrow, but I'm grateful for
Speaker 3: the opportunity to come on and talk with you and
Speaker 3: your listeners and appreciate the great combo.
Speaker 2: Okay, likewise, and I'll let you know when this show
Speaker 2: is posted. Thank you, sir. I'll see you later.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, take care. I have a great talk
Speaker 3: to see you soon. Take care.
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Speaker 6: Three thirty four is the mentioning Show. But now I'm
Speaker 6: going to talk about these martians. Oh we had missus sidekick.
Speaker 6: Woe about all of this commotion. I thing he's going
Speaker 6: all over the place.
Speaker 7: Uncle, We're live alive here on the show on the
Speaker 7: radio now and Jimmy, are you there?
Speaker 6: Well, we let's talk about this. Jimmy, we do he Jimmy,
Speaker 6: we're lying.
Speaker 8: Get on the phone.
Speaker 7: That's the second I'm talking to him.
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Speaker 7: Hey, Jimmy, what do you think about this deal? I
Speaker 7: know it's you.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 6: No, Noon, this is a fully operation about this stuff
Speaker 6: we're talking about tonight.
Speaker 1: Friendly. We're talking about the UFOs that we've seen over
Speaker 1: in New Jersey and New York and where's is.
Speaker 2: They're all over the place, all over the place.
Speaker 1: All over the world. Is I understand not mentioning.
Speaker 7: His but those people are stupid.
Speaker 2: Those people, Yeah, those people, people that don't believe in
Speaker 2: the aliens.
Speaker 1: Exactly what who doesn't believe in aliens?
Speaker 7: You should know? Sidekick? You talk?
Speaker 1: Am I one of those people that doesn't believe in them?
Speaker 7: I don't know about that.
Speaker 6: I am quite the skeptic. Yeah, I know that's what
Speaker 6: I think. That's what I'm thinking. You might a skeptic
Speaker 6: could be the same.
Speaker 2: That could be a problem. I am a spectacle. Understand
Speaker 2: that I'm a spectacle.
Speaker 1: And I'm skeptical of spectacles.
Speaker 2: Like UAPs in the air. What if they're not actually there?
Speaker 2: What if this is collective hysteria or something.
Speaker 7: Uncle I'm sure that am No.
Speaker 2: I believe they're there. I believe that they're in the sky.
Speaker 2: People are saying that. I believe that they're actually there.
Speaker 2: But the question is what, Jimmy, what are these things?
Speaker 2: What the heck are these what do we talk as?
Speaker 1: What are we talking about?
Speaker 18: Well, they are either depending on their origin, drones or
Speaker 18: probes of unknown origin, and they are causing chaos and
Speaker 18: this shouldn't be allowed to be going on.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 7: What you're saying, what's the not being allowed part?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I'm trying to understand that.
Speaker 18: Well, in our airspace is apparently being violated, and when
Speaker 18: people are going into hysterics, which they are, people are
Speaker 18: people are taking shots at these things at times and
Speaker 18: doing other things.
Speaker 7: And I think it's.
Speaker 18: I would be correct as saying it's causing an amount
Speaker 18: of care. Would you disagree with that?
Speaker 7: At a little bit of chaos. I can understand a
Speaker 7: little bit of this chaos.
Speaker 6: But but uh, I would like to understand what they
Speaker 6: coming down.
Speaker 7: What they are coming down to talk to us about.
Speaker 6: This could be a good science to us, you don't
Speaker 6: you think, Jimmy.
Speaker 18: Yeah, but they aren't landing. They just keep flying around.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of any landing.
Speaker 18: I mean, if they would land and say what's on
Speaker 18: their mind, then we want to have to be worried
Speaker 18: about it.
Speaker 2: It's real Catch twenty two situations right here, Uncle, they're
Speaker 2: flying around. We clearly we see these things flying.
Speaker 6: That's what your missus sidekick is worried about. Course they're
Speaker 6: not reporting to the people. They're here down here, and
Speaker 6: this is the problem you all would talking about today
Speaker 6: me and my life.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, I know that she's been talking a
Speaker 2: lot about it, and I should know everything about this
Speaker 2: because I know that she does. And I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just I see what Jimmy is saying. Something has
Speaker 2: to be done, right, he showed himself.
Speaker 1: But what is it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna get like Norad in here to
Speaker 2: shoot these things down.
Speaker 7: Uh, it is like doing World War three again. We're
Speaker 7: not going to kill.
Speaker 1: Them though, we're not going to kill them, but.
Speaker 6: They're not wanting to get they want to. I believe
Speaker 6: they want to be friendly.
Speaker 1: Who are they though, he's the question.
Speaker 6: It is Hampton, come down and investigate we do. Then
Speaker 6: they have to investigate to us to understand what we
Speaker 6: are talking about. Then your side of it, Yeah, would
Speaker 6: just stay away from me my side?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know who it is.
Speaker 2: I know they're terrible. I hate those guys myself. I
Speaker 2: just deal with them.
Speaker 7: Because that's why I don't say what it is.
Speaker 1: I try not tell.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why I say not when it is cook Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 6: Get distinquid butt and stop and let them people land
Speaker 6: and explain themselves. What if they don't want to watch
Speaker 6: the don't go about.
Speaker 2: Clearly, these things don't want to land. They just want
Speaker 2: to fly around to make colorful lights in the sky.
Speaker 2: And I just don't understand why we as a people
Speaker 2: down here on the ground can't look up see these
Speaker 2: things flying around they're lighting up and just kind of
Speaker 2: enjoy the show. Can we not just sit and look
Speaker 2: at pretty lights and say, hey, that's cool, and you
Speaker 2: know what, not only is it cool looking, but I've
Speaker 2: never seen anything like that. That's very unusual, and can't
Speaker 2: I just be excited about a little bit of mystery,
Speaker 2: little bit of excitement. I don't need to know everything.
Speaker 2: I don't need to know if that light is alive.
Speaker 2: I don't need to know if it's an alien spaceship.
Speaker 2: I don't need to know anything other than, hey, that's cool.
Speaker 2: And I've never done this before? And can I just
Speaker 2: enjoy my life?
Speaker 1: And and and can I do that? Am I not
Speaker 1: allowed to do this? Am I crazy?
Speaker 2: I'm like the craziest person in the world, and I'm
Speaker 2: sick of it. My reactions to everything are wrong, and
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do about it?
Speaker 1: Uncle?
Speaker 2: How have I become insane?
Speaker 1: It's enjoying life for its own sake? Is that a
Speaker 1: big problem? Is that like the world's biggest problem?
Speaker 7: Because it might be, but it might be to them,
Speaker 7: It might be them, to them, to them or to us.
Speaker 6: I think to us, I don't know, I mean to
Speaker 6: the business of what you talk about.
Speaker 7: I think to them, I.
Speaker 1: Don't mean to take over your show, uncle.
Speaker 2: But all I keep seeing, all I can keep seeing
Speaker 2: everywhere I turned my face is I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: live a life and enjoy myself.
Speaker 1: And that's not good enough. You're You're not allowed to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: You have to do this. You have to do that.
Speaker 2: You have to believe in this. This is that that,
Speaker 2: this is also that, and if you don't get on
Speaker 2: board with that, then ship up or ship out?
Speaker 1: You see that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but there has to be a meeting, a reasing federation.
Speaker 6: They coming down, they are trying to explain it, but
Speaker 6: I would like to hear it from them.
Speaker 1: Mouse. Yeah, I would like that too. I'm very much
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 6: I would you and your missus silly kick would go
Speaker 6: baz if some one of those guys space guys came
Speaker 6: down and speak to.
Speaker 2: You all, Hey, I'm not I mean, that would junk
Speaker 2: at anybody.
Speaker 6: It would shot Nanny would shut you're up it well
Speaker 6: about this pub thank god?
Speaker 1: I mean, but gonn it's gracious, it's about time.
Speaker 7: That's what I'd like to see happened.
Speaker 1: I would love it.
Speaker 2: Uh, Jimmy, when are these guys gonna land?
Speaker 1: What's what's their deal?
Speaker 8: Why?
Speaker 1: Why I'm going to get down here? What the heck
Speaker 1: is wrong with these idiots?
Speaker 7: You want to want what I think the.
Speaker 18: Not so distant immediate plans so the newcomers will.
Speaker 1: Be please, I absolutely want to know. Yeah, it what
Speaker 1: would be right. I'm gonna say, we asked for the
Speaker 1: song toll.
Speaker 6: We get to the bottom of this speach stuff, what's
Speaker 6: going back, and give.
Speaker 18: You a pretty pretty interesting scenario, and then I mean
Speaker 18: we'll kick that. I predict that almost amazingly. You may
Speaker 18: have heard the massade. The leader of Syria has fled
Speaker 18: to Russia. And as I predicted some years ago, the
Speaker 18: thing is fell. And as I have said, Damascus is
Speaker 18: the longest lasting running city that has never been interrupted
Speaker 18: by war, nothing, oldest city on earth.
Speaker 7: And yet I tell you, and then not so just
Speaker 7: the future.
Speaker 18: If I'm reading what I'm reading correctly, then Damascus, your
Speaker 18: hour will come and you will be gone within an hour.
Speaker 18: And that shirt seems like in the news what's going on.
Speaker 18: And then I wouldn't be surprised if soon after at UFOs, Oh,
Speaker 18: I'm sorry, the new UAPs good Peace would land on
Speaker 18: what's known as the Temple Mounts in Jerusalem. That is
Speaker 18: my prediction for the new It's somewhat near future for
Speaker 18: the newcomers.
Speaker 7: I think you're probably right.
Speaker 1: So they're landing, uncle, that's the good that that's.
Speaker 7: The good thing. I think we finally found out.
Speaker 6: So you can put this to us to mississide kick,
Speaker 6: I can.
Speaker 7: So what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Tonight that they're gonna land in Jerusalem.
Speaker 7: That's why they're gonna land. So now we can solve
Speaker 7: that problem.
Speaker 1: Dang.
Speaker 6: So no, we don't have no problems talking about you.
Speaker 2: So what they're doing now is just throwing us off, like, hey,
Speaker 2: we're in Jersey over here, look at us fly. Hey,
Speaker 2: we're just regular guys. Hey, there's nothing to see, but
Speaker 2: just wait, Jerusalem's coming. They didn't come here just to
Speaker 2: see hope broken that. They came here for other.
Speaker 7: Reasons, reasons, And I think I know why.
Speaker 1: You think you know why?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, well why don't you feel Oh you have
Speaker 2: another idea?
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 7: Well I'm still figuring it out.
Speaker 1: Somehow, give us half of an idea.
Speaker 9: Somehow we lost Jimmy. I just want to let you
Speaker 9: guys know. Somehow we lost Jimmy.
Speaker 7: There. So Jimmy, I don't know you.
Speaker 6: You're just talking to Wait, we're just talking about this
Speaker 6: guy had some kind of idea. I think he I
Speaker 6: think it's probably what he said.
Speaker 2: I think they realized that that he's onto him, and
Speaker 2: they had to like cut his phone line because of
Speaker 2: course they have the technology to do that.
Speaker 1: So clearly.
Speaker 2: I mean, the evidence shows absolutely, one hundred percent conclusively
Speaker 2: that what just happened.
Speaker 7: We want to know what's happening, he is.
Speaker 2: Well, we already do. We know everything. Uncle, The aliens
Speaker 2: are coming. They're gonna land in Jerusalem. They don't care
Speaker 2: about New Jersey. They're just faking us out. They don't
Speaker 2: care about New York either, even tho they want us
Speaker 2: to think. They know that we're vain, Uncle, They know
Speaker 2: how vain little creatures we are. Like, Oh, New York
Speaker 2: City's the biggest city, it's the greatest thing. Oh, we're
Speaker 2: gonna go there because humans love it so much. Like haha,
Speaker 2: we don't care. We're going somewhere else. See their little
Speaker 2: tricks that they play on us because we're so gullible.
Speaker 2: You see what we fall for. Uncle, I'm sick of it.
Speaker 2: I can't do this much longer. Bring these guys down
Speaker 2: here so I can talk to somebody that at least
Speaker 2: possibly could make sense for once ever being this alien.
Speaker 2: I know that I'm not going to make sense, but
Speaker 2: I'm willing to sit there and listen because I know
Speaker 2: how stupid I am. See I need help, uncle, I
Speaker 2: need a lot of lots of it.
Speaker 6: And the other one that's saying, you give it an
Speaker 6: idea of your plants.
Speaker 7: They gave you the idea with that.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, now that.
Speaker 7: Now what are you going to do?
Speaker 2: You're talking about my alien inspired bone side and stuff.
Speaker 6: So they they're telling you, I'm telling you something that
Speaker 6: I don't know what, and I say, what is it?
Speaker 2: Just just as George van Tassel was giving the plants
Speaker 2: to the Integratron by aliens, which he channeled, I too
Speaker 2: have been given detailed instructions on how to make unique
Speaker 2: bone side creations out of mere plants by aliens. I've
Speaker 2: channeled it, Uncle, They told me what to do.
Speaker 7: See and now don't you with them?
Speaker 6: I try to say, I just want to have a
Speaker 6: talk with them, is what I want to hear.
Speaker 1: Nothing fancy, just talk. It's like a podcast.
Speaker 2: Really, we'd like them to come down here, uh and
Speaker 2: podcasts to do a part. They could be in studio.
Speaker 2: We can find a chair for them. I don't know
Speaker 2: what they even are, but we can figure out how
Speaker 2: to get them in here and onto mic somehow.
Speaker 7: Man, we'll be the first uzz of.
Speaker 6: Only two guys that ever did a podcast with aliens?
Speaker 6: Oh boy, they'll be on top of us like hailing flies.
Speaker 1: Talk about a scoop bunk all day out?
Speaker 7: Is that a scoop?
Speaker 2: That's that's our ticket, That's that's a ticket to a
Speaker 2: big audience.
Speaker 7: Right, this could be a good point, Chuck, are you there.
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: I'm here, Okay, I'm here, I'm here, are okay?
Speaker 7: When that said, is.
Speaker 1: This is this our chance?
Speaker 2: Is this the chance for Uncle the podcast to go big,
Speaker 2: to go into the stratosphere and hey, into space, into
Speaker 2: outer space with just a giant audience because we're the
Speaker 2: ones who had the aliens first.
Speaker 9: Well, these kinds of decisions are definitely beyond me.
Speaker 8: I I don't know what to say.
Speaker 9: I don't know if anybody would believe it, even if
Speaker 9: you had it, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just don't know.
Speaker 6: It's because this is driving me crazy with Beasts two
Speaker 6: talking about it, and I had to talk about something
Speaker 6: about it tonight.
Speaker 4: He did.
Speaker 1: I understand, Hey, it's an important topic. It is.
Speaker 2: And as I mentioned before, I mean, I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that they're not there either. Clearly something's flying around up there.
Speaker 2: Something we can agree to that something's up there. What
Speaker 2: the heck is it?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's that's where we're getting ourselves into trouble when we
Speaker 2: start saying, when we asked the question, what is it?
Speaker 2: And people start answering that question. Oh boy, that's where
Speaker 2: the trouble seems to be starting.
Speaker 1: That's just in my mind. But I'm I'm I'm no good.
Speaker 6: There's so far no real answers though, you know, that's
Speaker 6: the problem. I'm haavy, no real answer. What the heck's
Speaker 6: going on here?
Speaker 1: Chuck? You neda and my wife on as a guest.
Speaker 1: She can tell you what they are. She knows.
Speaker 9: Maybe she can help me because I can't get any
Speaker 9: answers anywhere, so I don't know, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I see Green Fez is in the chat
Speaker 2: at YouTube saying hey Aaron and Uncle, hello green Fez,
Speaker 2: have you thanks for coming on the show. We're live
Speaker 2: on the O'Kelly radio network ochelly dot com. We've got
Speaker 2: the chat there.
Speaker 7: We're all down to town.
Speaker 1: Oh I'll take a look.
Speaker 3: I didn't even take a look yet.
Speaker 1: You know, it's been a.
Speaker 3: Weird night, it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an odd night. It's this is a strange night.
Speaker 7: Uncle, Well, I know it's listening, you know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, I mean that's the normal thing. Uncle.
Speaker 9: It's Friday the thirteenth, you know, you know what.
Speaker 2: I looked at the moon earlier. It looks like it's
Speaker 2: nearly full. I don't know what phase it is. Is
Speaker 2: it full moonshuck? Are you aware what phase are we in?
Speaker 9: You know, I have felt so sick all week. I
Speaker 9: haven't even looked at the moon. I have no clue
Speaker 9: what cycle we're in. Nothing, I haven't I haven't even outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's not full, it's close to it. I
Speaker 2: can tell you that. I looked up. I'm like, dang,
Speaker 2: it looks like it's full. It's Friday at thirteenth. Man,
Speaker 2: this is like the best day ever. There's a UFOs
Speaker 2: flying around, We're doing a podcast, We're doing all this stuff.
Speaker 1: We have a DT.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we have a decent amount of people on the
Speaker 9: live stream. I mean, you know, you got Germany, you
Speaker 9: got a few people in Canada, you got people all
Speaker 9: across the US. Now they don't tell me where they
Speaker 9: are in the United States anymore, they just tell me
Speaker 9: the devices they're using. I don't know why that happened,
Speaker 9: but it looks like most of our listeners are on Mozilla.
Speaker 9: Some people are on iPads, iPhones, things like that, but
Speaker 9: Mozilla is the main thing. And in Canada they're all
Speaker 9: using Mozilla. And in Germany they've been on there for
Speaker 9: about three and a half hours.
Speaker 1: Looks like, so.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they got it know something about.
Speaker 2: Friends in Germany. How exciting Greenfest is saying, your uncle,
Speaker 2: I'm in Ireland. Unbelievably enough. Oh, Greenfest is in Ireland. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's an Ireland.
Speaker 7: We have neighbor on here, matter of fact, that's for
Speaker 7: my own Yes, it was the neighbor, two couple, the dog.
Speaker 7: I talked to them.
Speaker 1: This is an international show, Uncle, that's.
Speaker 9: On the other streets. We we don't even know who's
Speaker 9: listening on X or anything else. I mean, I just
Speaker 9: have my my network that I can see.
Speaker 1: So there you are. Could be all over the world.
Speaker 2: And I'll say, if you happen to be watching a
Speaker 2: live stream on X, could you do us a favor
Speaker 2: and repost it?
Speaker 1: That would be very appreciated.
Speaker 2: Anytime you see the feed, if you like it, repost it.
Speaker 1: That's gonna help a lot. That's gonna help us grow. Uncle.
Speaker 1: That's Street Team maneuvers right there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, trying to see if you guys can connect that
Speaker 7: the x X. I call it XX because I listen
Speaker 7: to it now.
Speaker 9: Face says that the moon will be full tomorrow night,
Speaker 9: which might be correct because I know face shifter does
Speaker 9: watch the moon quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, So we're close to a full moon. So
Speaker 1: it's not a full moon, but man, are we close?
Speaker 1: That's exciting now.
Speaker 2: Uncle Greens over there at YouTube is asking if we
Speaker 2: have any queries concerning Ireland.
Speaker 1: Do you have any questions about Ireland? He can answer
Speaker 1: it or he or she whoever Green.
Speaker 2: Fes is I know all listening in that state. Are
Speaker 2: you listening in Ireland? That's the question. So, okay, we'll
Speaker 2: wait for the response. I'm sure there will be one.
Speaker 2: It's just exciting, uh, Cole, I will say that my wife,
Speaker 2: being so enthused about these you ap phenomenon, she wants
Speaker 2: to go out to Landers to look out. So we're
Speaker 2: going to go out there and check it out and
Speaker 2: see if we can get to the epicenter of alien activity.
Speaker 2: That's where George van Tassel had the UFO land in
Speaker 2: a giant rock when he was running the airport there
Speaker 2: to Yeah, I'm that exciting, So we may as well
Speaker 2: go out there and see if they're still hanging on
Speaker 2: on that area.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Thanks march home too.
Speaker 2: Green Fest says that they may have some questions concerned
Speaker 2: in California. Yes, please leave them in the chain, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure we can answer those. We know many things
Speaker 2: about California. It's not everything.
Speaker 1: Then a lot.
Speaker 2: We gotta climb Goat Mountain, Uncle, We got to get
Speaker 2: to the top of Goat Mountain.
Speaker 4: Goat Mountain is when.
Speaker 6: I want to get it there before we even bore
Speaker 6: a gut in the house.
Speaker 7: But never got there. Yeah, I always wanted there to
Speaker 7: see what was in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I really want to climb to the
Speaker 2: top a thing. I have not gone up the trail
Speaker 2: on the top of it.
Speaker 7: I want to climb in.
Speaker 2: You to go inside the mountain. You know there are
Speaker 2: mine shafts that go inside it, so it could we
Speaker 2: want to go in, not on top. It might be
Speaker 2: a little dangerous. I don't think we should go down
Speaker 2: to mine shafts, but they are there.
Speaker 7: To see what where We can't step into it.
Speaker 1: I mean we can look down. Yeah, we can flash
Speaker 1: down there and.
Speaker 7: See where we can step.
Speaker 1: We gotta be safe. We gotta be safe. Okay, but uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to go out there. Looks like
Speaker 2: Phase shift is really owning the chat at Theocelli dot
Speaker 2: com chat room.
Speaker 1: That's exciting. Glad to have you there. Is that at
Speaker 1: Ochelli dot com in the chat?
Speaker 5: Yes, but.
Speaker 2: That may change at an't given a moment, I will
Speaker 2: if you're still there, Chuck, I will say that I'm
Speaker 2: a bit disappointed that spinning globe graphic you used to
Speaker 2: have on Chili dot com has been discontinued. I don't
Speaker 2: know what happened, but it's not there anymore. Oh, it
Speaker 2: stopped working.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I don't know why, but it just
Speaker 1: stopped working. Yeah, that's a bummer.
Speaker 2: I used to use I was using that in the
Speaker 2: uh as part of like the video here, I would
Speaker 2: integrate into the video.
Speaker 1: It's a nice, like moving visual thing and I just
Speaker 1: loved having it. But it's not there anymore. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: just it just stopped. I don't know what what the
Speaker 1: deal is. Uh I.
Speaker 9: I loved it because it was keeping track of all
Speaker 9: the little places on the on the globe where you know,
Speaker 9: people would show.
Speaker 1: Up on the site. Uh, but I don't know.
Speaker 9: I mean, I'll go back over the code and see
Speaker 9: what the problem is. Maybe there's something I had to
Speaker 9: change this year or something I don't know, but just
Speaker 9: stop working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, crazy, Yeah, well, I don't know. I will
Speaker 2: say that I always love the graphic, but it's it's
Speaker 2: not your faults.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you, but I'm just it.
Speaker 9: It was from one of these you know, free website
Speaker 9: services that you know, gave it to us to to
Speaker 9: be able to track and uh, you know they make
Speaker 9: money off their advertisers or whatever. Maybe they went out
Speaker 9: of business side.
Speaker 7: That's a possibility.
Speaker 1: I wondered that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a possibility. And that's by the way, you
Speaker 6: don't see anything always.
Speaker 9: Is and no website lasts forever, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's hard to keep up with things.
Speaker 2: Uncle green Fez is asking if we live anywhere near
Speaker 2: Mulholland Drive. That's in Los Angeles, in the Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 2: I mean, but no, we're in the Greater Los Angeles area.
Speaker 2: We're in Riverside, which.
Speaker 7: Is different county above.
Speaker 2: A there we go, so we're close. I mean we're
Speaker 2: a lot closer than you are in Ireland. So compared
Speaker 2: to that, we're like real close.
Speaker 1: But we're not.
Speaker 2: We're not within the city of la if we were.
Speaker 2: If we were, we'd be real close to Mohland Drive.
Speaker 2: I've driven down Mullhan Drive. It's awesome. I love going
Speaker 2: around up there, driving in the in the hills. It's
Speaker 2: always cool. It's always uh, it's an adventures like, oh,
Speaker 2: look we're driving around the Hollywood Hills. It has an aura.
Speaker 2: There's an aura up there, to be sure, there's it
Speaker 2: has a feel about it. And when you're just driving
Speaker 2: around the residential streets, it's say, man, this is a.
Speaker 1: Weird place.
Speaker 2: It's a strange place, and it gives off a it
Speaker 2: gives off something. You can feel it. That's all I'll
Speaker 2: say about it. So if you ever get the chance
Speaker 2: to go up there, you'll you'll probably enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I do. I'm enjoying being there.
Speaker 2: But Uncle, California is the land of strangeness, as you're
Speaker 2: saying under the integratron UFOs. But I'm glad that we
Speaker 2: can share a little bit of that weirdness with Jersey,
Speaker 2: even if it's only for a short time until they
Speaker 2: go Toalem Jerusalem, these craft.
Speaker 1: I think it's.
Speaker 2: Good that Jersey is getting some strange not that Jersey
Speaker 2: has never had strange things either, but that they're getting
Speaker 2: UFO activity.
Speaker 1: Boy, that's exciting.
Speaker 7: I just liked one laying down and had me a
Speaker 7: little chat with them. That's how I want to hear
Speaker 7: on the podcast. But yeah, talking to them.
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, I'll even have them personally, have them
Speaker 6: for a guess on my podcast by you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's an open invite to them. If they would
Speaker 2: like to be here, please join the show.
Speaker 7: It'd be a good long conversation too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there'd be a lot to talk about, so many topics.
Speaker 2: Where to even start?
Speaker 4: They don't know where?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got it's going to be a starting point.
Speaker 2: I mean we would keep it simple to begin with,
Speaker 2: I assuming like who are you and where are you from?
Speaker 1: Maybe even what are you? Then we just build from there.
Speaker 1: You gotta start with a foundation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they go from the person to go from the
Speaker 6: end and dal.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well but no need to overcomplicate things.
Speaker 6: Not going to be a complication, man, Just gonna be simple.
Speaker 6: Just what you just said. Start out.
Speaker 7: So where are those callers?
Speaker 1: They're out there somewhere, Uncle, if they're out there in.
Speaker 2: The Worldwide Web, the colors. I will give out the
Speaker 2: call line three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 2: one six. You can also use Skype. If you use Skype,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to type a message to Chuck. You
Speaker 2: can find him. He's Charles Do and Chellie type him.
Speaker 2: I said, you will call you, or you can use
Speaker 2: a phone and call three one nine five two seven
Speaker 2: five zero one six. Colin, you tell us what's going
Speaker 2: on with this UAP and I identified aerial phenomenon? What
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 1: What is it? Why is it? What's happening?
Speaker 2: What I mean again, I know everything because my wife
Speaker 2: told me what's going on. But you know, humor me
Speaker 2: and pretend I don't already know everything about this. And
Speaker 2: I want to know what you think I really do. Uncle,
Speaker 2: This is insane town.
Speaker 6: Oh well, I'm stuck with wounds because that's trying to understands,
Speaker 6: understand them to try to have a good conversation. I
Speaker 6: lose my conversation because now Co'm laying down here.
Speaker 2: Oh Greenfest is saying so many people misunderstand. Inland Empire
Speaker 2: probably a superior film to Moha on Drive. Now, it's
Speaker 2: interesting that you mentioned that Green Fees. You're referencing to
Speaker 2: David Lynch films, both of them different areas in southern California,
Speaker 2: both of them. The areas I was describing earlier would
Speaker 2: be Mulholland Drive is just a road within Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: and then the Inland Empire is where we're at now. Really,
Speaker 2: I would say, like Riverside is one of those quintessential
Speaker 2: in the Empire cities. Without a doubt, that's where we're at.
Speaker 1: So it's the Inland Area.
Speaker 2: You come in from LA off the coast, you get
Speaker 2: into the counties like Riverside, and you're in the Inland Empire,
Speaker 2: and it's its own place for sure, but it's at
Speaker 2: the same time the Greater LA Area. You could call
Speaker 2: it that too. Yeah, But as you're saying, you're saying
Speaker 2: that people misunderstand those Lynch films. Sure, but I would
Speaker 2: also say that in reality, people misunderstand what the Inland
Speaker 2: Empire even is and what Mulholland Drive is in California geography,
Speaker 2: which I don't blame a but they're not living here.
Speaker 2: But that's kind of an interesting synchronicity there.
Speaker 1: Uncle.
Speaker 2: I thank our u AP brethren for somehow they have
Speaker 2: something to do with this synchronicity. I don't know how
Speaker 2: they made it happen, uncle, but I know they did.
Speaker 1: They did it.
Speaker 2: They did this, and I'm happy about it. They're creating synchronosity.
Speaker 7: People going on this. Yes, and I'm trying to investigate this.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's exciting, uncle, I'm excited about that. Open yourself to it.
Speaker 2: Be open to the ascension into the fifth dimensional reality
Speaker 2: which is about to come because of our space brothers
Speaker 2: that are going to suck us up into the heavens
Speaker 2: of the new sphere.
Speaker 1: It's going to be great. Man. I'm excited.
Speaker 7: Boy, I'm getting.
Speaker 2: I am sick of living in this stupid material world.
Speaker 2: It's a bunch of nonsense. It's a bunch of wasting time.
Speaker 2: I wake up every day, I got to eat stuff,
Speaker 2: I go to the bathroom, I go to work.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 2: I want the aliens to come and send me to
Speaker 2: the fifth dimensional reality that's better than here, so that
Speaker 2: I can live as an angelic being in love and
Speaker 2: in light for all eternity. And why am I not
Speaker 2: doing that? If it's eternity, why am I not already
Speaker 2: doing that? Is what I'm asking, What the heck is wrong?
Speaker 12: Well?
Speaker 1: Why am I wasting my time? What are we doing?
Speaker 2: Kde is that's that's fifth that's fifth dimensional reality.
Speaker 1: That's us ascending into it as we speak.
Speaker 7: It's happening too much.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think we have a new call uncle.
Speaker 8: This sounds like this is zboard number five. Call it
Speaker 8: from spaceship seven orbiting Earth.
Speaker 7: This is its se Borb trying to talk to you. Guys.
Speaker 6: Now, step down off that spaceship and come on. We'll
Speaker 6: get you an interview.
Speaker 8: We have just came to watch Taylor Swift concerts and
Speaker 8: now we're leaving.
Speaker 7: Oh, dad, was a concert? How was the last concert?
Speaker 1: Was? Last week?
Speaker 7: She's done with a concerts?
Speaker 1: Oh, so you were at the Eras tour? Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Z Borb?
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I attended every Era's concert around the world.
Speaker 1: Dang.
Speaker 8: And now I've been in New Jersey prepared to leave.
Speaker 8: Now I'm going, oh.
Speaker 2: Dang, leaving straight out of Jersey. So you came in
Speaker 2: to see Taylor Swift? Of course, I mean, who wouldn't
Speaker 2: do that?
Speaker 7: And I'm not clean and she's under We'll.
Speaker 2: Just last they Zborg watched the show last week. I
Speaker 2: guess and every single concert of the Erastour if I'm
Speaker 2: understanding correctly, and now Board has to go to Jersey,
Speaker 2: which is the obvious portal to leave here, and they're
Speaker 2: just flying around in the meantime, I guess, is that
Speaker 2: are you there?
Speaker 1: Boor Board? Did you leave? I left?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 7: Dang, he's gone, he's gone. What that does sound like him?
Speaker 7: That sounds like the other guy from north.
Speaker 1: Them north of the border.
Speaker 7: Oh like you stomp acking like him?
Speaker 8: You helped me out. I'm on the spaceship there.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, they got him. He's abducted.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you've been inducted the peach sakes, but trying to
Speaker 6: talk to these like people not don't get in the way.
Speaker 8: I apologize. I apologize, Robin.
Speaker 1: The abduction could be a good thing.
Speaker 2: I think I think your best course action is just
Speaker 2: to go with it and it could work out good.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, you could be like George van Tassel what.
Speaker 8: I think it was just a fever dream. I think
Speaker 8: it was just a fever dream. I ate some bad
Speaker 8: tacos yesterday.
Speaker 1: Dang, it was all in his heads.
Speaker 15: It was masscessary after all, uncle, I've just come That's
Speaker 15: what it was because I knew I knew that voice
Speaker 15: failed familiar it is voice.
Speaker 2: Well, dang, green Fez says, now you're okay, now, so
Speaker 2: the fever's over. You're the abduction? Well you know what,
Speaker 2: you know it clearly has happened. No, cool, do we
Speaker 2: have to go to the call?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 7: Is on the phone? We had to answer the phone?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well we better do that.
Speaker 7: Who's on this line?
Speaker 5: Hey man, this is it?
Speaker 1: And I tell you but he.
Speaker 4: No, this is important.
Speaker 16: If missus sidekick tells you guys to drink some punch
Speaker 16: or something because you're gonna meet aliens, don't drink it.
Speaker 5: This has happened before drinking.
Speaker 1: Dang, she's fooling us my own wife.
Speaker 6: Uncle, you better get people.
Speaker 8: We need, we need.
Speaker 1: To wear special or something. You don't do it.
Speaker 18: Don't do it?
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, wait minute wait?
Speaker 8: What was that?
Speaker 1: What what are we messing?
Speaker 8: What do we want to do that?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 5: What's what's that? You know? I just said? If if missus.
Speaker 16: Sidekicks tells you gotta wear special sneakers and.
Speaker 5: Drink some punch you're gonna meet some aliens, don't do it.
Speaker 1: She's been lying to me. It was all a ruse
Speaker 1: to give you the.
Speaker 3: People.
Speaker 1: What do you know?
Speaker 7: What? What do you know about him?
Speaker 16: Well, you know some years back, I can't remember what
Speaker 16: the name of that colt was, but they all had
Speaker 16: to wear special sneakers and they drank some punch or
Speaker 16: something they were drink and they you know, they all died.
Speaker 5: But they told him they were going to meet me.
Speaker 16: You know, Heaven Heavens gave us miss.
Speaker 5: Punch.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about stair Way to Heaven.
Speaker 7: That's why that's the song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, only a song, don't that's a song. Don't be scared,
Speaker 1: just no, no, no.
Speaker 5: Heavens was a cult and they all killed themselves.
Speaker 16: They wore special sneakers and uh, drank some punch or something.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but it was kind of scary.
Speaker 8: I don't not worry.
Speaker 16: About the aliens because you know they're gonna protect me.
Speaker 16: They're all around in the trees, gonna get through.
Speaker 7: They're gonna swallow them up. What are you talking about.
Speaker 5: They don't have a chance. Sirrels even alive.
Speaker 7: Man, I don't know about that. They got their gun shoes.
Speaker 2: Well, I know that green Fest is still with us too,
Speaker 2: and just enjoying it. They said that they're gonna leave,
Speaker 2: but they seem to still be here and they're asking
Speaker 2: if you like tequila uncle.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we love.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh man of fact, everybody here love you.
Speaker 7: Guys gonna be on my new revolution. Ask him is
Speaker 7: he gonna be on it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I'm gonna be having some man for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, we we sure hope that you're here. Ed
Speaker 2: and Robin and talking about the we talk about the
Speaker 2: comment guy to.
Speaker 6: The comment guy that was just talking to you and
Speaker 6: the black.
Speaker 1: The crack room.
Speaker 2: They're saying, this stream has become fun all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I'm taking all the credit. Oh yeah, there you go,
Speaker 2: so that guy that guy was, Yes, it's very exciting.
Speaker 1: It's a crack room.
Speaker 2: We've got Ed, We've got Robin, we had z Boord.
Speaker 2: Robin was being abducted, but that's over now, or is it?
Speaker 8: I think.
Speaker 7: Sounds like you because voice was abducted.
Speaker 8: You don't know your voice sounds like somehip going to
Speaker 8: Twilight Zone.
Speaker 7: Perfect Really yeah, that sounds.
Speaker 2: Like a clear clear the alien activity is to blame
Speaker 2: for this.
Speaker 1: I mean there's no other there's no other explanation.
Speaker 8: Because we want.
Speaker 7: To this is what came down you get the answer.
Speaker 7: Mountain at night, you know.
Speaker 2: Do not tempt me ed, you know, I want to know,
Speaker 2: I want to I'm not even joking when I say
Speaker 2: that I love the desert and that makes.
Speaker 5: Me want to come down here and go with you
Speaker 5: guys the answers there.
Speaker 8: My hometown in British Columbia actually has a gold Mountain
Speaker 8: as well.
Speaker 1: Oh really, that's awesome, man.
Speaker 8: It was renamed from Arrow Mountain to Goat Mountain for
Speaker 8: some reason. I don't know they switched to that.
Speaker 2: I remember doing an Internet search for Goat Mountain and
Speaker 2: seeing the one in Landers, but then also a couple
Speaker 2: other things popped up too.
Speaker 1: I'll bet probably yours popped up, Robin.
Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. I haven't rode my mountain
Speaker 8: bike on that many times.
Speaker 5: Very impossible.
Speaker 8: I think that's true. Yeah, it should be.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's where you expect to find them, there's
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. So I got that photo they
Speaker 2: love goats that it could be a goat mutilation going on.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how the Goat Mountain in Landers got
Speaker 1: its name.
Speaker 2: And again there's that, by the way, not at the
Speaker 2: moment there.
Speaker 7: What was that d.
Speaker 16: It's pretty obvious. Something's been landing Inlanders.
Speaker 6: Huh oh Landers, Yes, something's been landing.
Speaker 1: That's in the name uncle Landers. They landed together.
Speaker 5: Come on.
Speaker 7: Moving, just not what we're doing.
Speaker 6: Yeah for Tomabo okay, and hate up and checked this out.
Speaker 1: It's all on hold.
Speaker 7: But it's all on hold because we had to go
Speaker 7: at night.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, you guys, a couple of weeks and we're
Speaker 5: gonna be dark again. That's probably the best time to go.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, hey, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a full moon tomorrow, right. If it's
Speaker 1: If it's a.
Speaker 2: Full moon, that is perfect for going out in the
Speaker 2: desert at night. When it's a full moon, you walk around,
Speaker 2: you just give like your eyes a few minutes touges.
Speaker 1: You see everything you can see.
Speaker 2: It's almost like, after a while, after you get used
Speaker 2: to it, it's almost like it's a weird, crazy version
Speaker 2: of the daytime. The moon is so bright and you
Speaker 2: see so much. I absolutely love it. I love walking
Speaker 2: around the desert night.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 7: Then that's weird.
Speaker 1: The problem.
Speaker 6: You guys want to go check this stuff out. You
Speaker 6: go there because there's a place where it's the things
Speaker 6: can land there because there's no houses, well, only any trees.
Speaker 1: Hard they so.
Speaker 16: For them, it sure is for sure, Mountain answer. There
Speaker 16: could be a Californian girl up there.
Speaker 5: I tell you everything.
Speaker 1: I bet there is. It's an old wise one. He's
Speaker 1: been living there for all. I'm you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, if you get at schools, you just got
Speaker 7: to open it up.
Speaker 2: Uncle, you got to open yourself up to it. I
Speaker 2: might just uh cut off a cutting of the San
Speaker 2: Pedro cactus, putting in the old back pocket and stop
Speaker 2: munching it once I get to the top. If I'm
Speaker 2: so inclined, I'm really going out there now.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Robin and Robin, you're right that the psychoactive ingredient
Speaker 2: in that is mescaline.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that last week, and you're absolutely right.
Speaker 8: All right, there we go.
Speaker 1: You've got the knowledge.
Speaker 8: I tried a very small amount there. Yeah, but it
Speaker 8: didn't it didn't really seem to second.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But at least now we know where they're headed.
Speaker 1: We know, we clearly know. We have the evidence.
Speaker 7: We have the evidence where they're going.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 6: I'm excited about that, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: They're going to They can't go to Taylor Swift now
Speaker 1: because it's over. So now they were hanging out in New.
Speaker 5: Jersey, Jerusalem viers.
Speaker 8: Every time, every time I talks, it feels like some
Speaker 8: some someone coming from the ether.
Speaker 6: It does sounds like it sounds like he was on
Speaker 6: the spaceship it the way he's down.
Speaker 5: So we're all emanations of the ether, right, so it
Speaker 5: makes sense.
Speaker 2: And green Fez is right there with us the whole time.
Speaker 2: They're wondering why they're the only one in the chat.
Speaker 2: Green Fes, I would just say, if you want more
Speaker 2: people there, do let people know about the show. Be like, hey,
Speaker 2: get over here, watch uncle every Friday, it's live. Uh
Speaker 2: reposted sharing around. Come in the chat room, call in.
Speaker 2: We we love everybody calling in. We got great callers tonight.
Speaker 2: We're open to having more. We need to learn, We
Speaker 2: need to learn from everybody. We need to have everybody here.
Speaker 2: This is important here the Irish UFOs wait, Irish, what's that?
Speaker 2: There must there must be there must be having some
Speaker 2: UFFO sightings over there. Oh yeah yeah with green Fes, Yes,
Speaker 2: let us know what the Irish UFOs are doing right now, Fez.
Speaker 1: We must know this very important, very important.
Speaker 7: This, Yeah, Chuck, I'll be.
Speaker 16: Telling you that you've got listeners on the moon and
Speaker 16: on Mars or wherever.
Speaker 6: That's the kind of show this is, uncle, that's the
Speaker 6: kind of show we're looking for you.
Speaker 5: That's no longer just global, it's you know, universal. Now clearly.
Speaker 8: It keep skimping better, Uncle, there's a rewarding from Ireland.
Speaker 8: Green says. He says he's got an Irish UFO story.
Speaker 8: Oh here we go.
Speaker 2: See what he says, I can tell you, And yeah,
Speaker 2: I see that, he does say, I say, what's coming. Well,
Speaker 2: let's let's give him time. He'll drop it into the
Speaker 2: old YouTube chat. We're going to learn a whole lot
Speaker 2: very soon. But uh, Chuck, are you there? And if so,
Speaker 2: how much time do we happen till this hits the
Speaker 2: hour mark?
Speaker 9: I'm thinking you've got about ten more minutes before we're
Speaker 9: about done.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, perfect, that's perfect. That's just enough thing.
Speaker 6: See this is what still and went time out talking
Speaker 6: about these things, and it's happening.
Speaker 7: I had my I had my thought of what I
Speaker 7: was going to say, and he came out to.
Speaker 2: Be Well, grandfather is slightly inebriated, but that's that only
Speaker 2: helps her out here, So don't be bashful about that.
Speaker 8: I got a question for you guys. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 8: guys think that lens are aliens.
Speaker 1: Oh dang, no, no, no, I.
Speaker 7: Do not know.
Speaker 6: That. I don't know soon, I know, because first of all,
Speaker 6: you have to have a ship, and they don't have
Speaker 6: a shape.
Speaker 7: They don't not not the what he was talking about.
Speaker 2: It could be parked at the end of the rainbow.
Speaker 2: It seems like a good parking space for the NFL.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they might travel on the radio like a slide.
Speaker 2: Plus, they're little green men, right know that isn't that
Speaker 2: what an alien is?
Speaker 1: It's a little green man, that's what. That's what the.
Speaker 8: So I think they might just slip through the the
Speaker 8: like the multi versus. You know, they just open up
Speaker 8: a little little zipper in the air and just walk through.
Speaker 6: Well, they can walk through, but they won't be able
Speaker 6: to drink to because they do the lighting a lot.
Speaker 7: They do the sliding a lot. Sliding huh yeah, slide
Speaker 7: to the rainbow, they.
Speaker 2: Slide down the rainbow something like they're wasting a lot
Speaker 2: of time, these leperchauns.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think we need Bear the Rainbow guy here
Speaker 16: and we, you know, talk about the rainbow.
Speaker 5: Whether that or not.
Speaker 2: I well, I wish Bear these yeah, recupees exactly.
Speaker 1: We miss Bear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, if he were, it would be awesome.
Speaker 7: They would know about it then.
Speaker 2: I guarantee he'd have something to say about this, and
Speaker 2: I would want to hear whatever it was. There's no
Speaker 2: doubt about that too, man, Yeah, there's no doubt.
Speaker 8: I have to revisit that the double Rainbow video. Is
Speaker 8: that him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good question. Yeah, maybe we should
Speaker 2: try to check in with her, see if we can
Speaker 2: track her down.
Speaker 6: Sometimes I could down maybe hews things. Yeah, that she
Speaker 6: gave to him.
Speaker 2: The property up there, for one thing would be a
Speaker 2: question like you still have the uh double rainbow?
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 2: When he called it the double rainbow? It was like,
Speaker 2: it's a name for a property. I forget what, but
Speaker 2: it was double rainbow something rather. I can't call it
Speaker 2: off the top.
Speaker 4: Of my head.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's cool up there.
Speaker 2: Also in California, h here Yosemite National Park, famous place.
Speaker 2: I bet there's probably aliens there all day, every day.
Speaker 2: They probably just hang out in the woods and we
Speaker 2: don't even know it.
Speaker 7: That's probably they're hanging in now.
Speaker 8: Over there, that's an alien party.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 7: This guy sounds like he was in the Yestronaut. He's
Speaker 7: in the one of those things.
Speaker 1: He's in one of the good ed ed Are you
Speaker 1: in one of those things?
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm in something. I'm not sure what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm working on that. I'm into it. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the sound is, but I like it. I like this.
Speaker 8: It's meant to be green, but I haven't seen that
Speaker 8: for next week.
Speaker 1: Oh, Greenfest is taken of.
Speaker 8: We're leaving the story from it for next week.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, saying something about November twenty eighteen. They saf
Speaker 2: under clear blust. Guys, that's gonna be a good story
Speaker 2: green Fest. How about this, you're since you're out of
Speaker 2: the country, I'm not going to say call in, but
Speaker 2: skype into the show sometime and let us know your story,
Speaker 2: of your contact E story so that we get more
Speaker 2: information on this important topic. Do skype in this show
Speaker 2: sometimes if you get the chance, And I'd love to
Speaker 2: hear that, or anybody for that matter out there, if
Speaker 2: they have a uh, you know, citing story, love to
Speaker 2: hear it.
Speaker 5: This could be like, you know, you need to have
Speaker 5: a wife on that guest.
Speaker 7: I know I was trying to get in here.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, we gotta we got to convince her.
Speaker 6: I'm wanting to because.
Speaker 1: She has a lot to say.
Speaker 7: I don't know what you have to say about this.
Speaker 1: I'd like to know. I'd like everybody should know.
Speaker 7: See can Coo up my hour just talking that?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, no doubt about that.
Speaker 7: I'm why she didn't come in.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure she experience.
Speaker 2: Uh no, she's just excited about the current goings on
Speaker 2: and all the sightings and she's very opinionated on what's happening.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's it's interesting, but this is Yeah,
Speaker 2: you get your foughts for sure. So we're having an
Speaker 2: excited show here.
Speaker 1: Uncle.
Speaker 2: I think I think we could switch on over to
Speaker 2: the shout outs.
Speaker 1: So many calls here, I think we should the shoutouts.
Speaker 7: Jimmy finish. Is he still on the line yet? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do we have Jimmy?
Speaker 4: No, we lost Jimmy a while ago.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. He got beamed up those
Speaker 1: Scotty did it?
Speaker 6: Then it's that guy talking now.
Speaker 2: Okay, that guy talking now, give a shout.
Speaker 8: Out, uh shout out to the New Year's Revolution. Everyone
Speaker 8: should be listening now, should consider calling in. That's on.
Speaker 8: It's let's let's give me a photo. It's on New
Speaker 8: Year's Eve. We're starting at eight pm, I believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah Pacific. Yeah, that's very Pacific time.
Speaker 8: Pacific time going into one o'clock like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Around there you can say to the new year, the new.
Speaker 8: Year all the way listen in, call in. We like
Speaker 8: to hear about the happenings of the world.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, thank you, Robin.
Speaker 2: All right, talk you guys, all right, take you care man,
Speaker 2: great to have you, Thank you for coming on. Now
Speaker 2: we go shout outs to our friend ed here next space.
Speaker 16: All right, Well, I'm going to shout out to my
Speaker 16: Sasquat friends because i'd like to see you run across
Speaker 16: the road at least.
Speaker 5: Once and something. I promise I'll we'll try to run
Speaker 5: you over anything. Well, you know, I'm a friends. I
Speaker 5: would just like to see one of you guys.
Speaker 16: So if you're listening Sasquatch, go ahead, take a little
Speaker 16: crowd across the road.
Speaker 5: In front of me when I'm right home some night.
Speaker 5: And that's about it.
Speaker 1: All right, It's great to have you man, Thanks for
Speaker 1: calling in.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, of course, shout out to uh the
Speaker 2: aliens that are here, that it's going to take us
Speaker 2: into fifth dimensional reality for all of eternity and we
Speaker 2: don't have to deal with being material creatures anymore. That
Speaker 2: first of all, Also to Green Fez, new person in
Speaker 2: the chat as far as I know, I haven't seen
Speaker 2: you before, anybody who may have found the show. And
Speaker 2: also a shout out to Mark Borchert. I'm wearing this
Speaker 2: covin or it's covid. It's not pronounced covin that sounds
Speaker 2: so much like ovin. I'm wearing this COVID hat I
Speaker 2: ordered directly from Mark Porchard of American movie Fame. I
Speaker 2: got this directly from him. He sat out from Milwaukee,
Speaker 2: wisconsinant mark portrait is awesome and it's really cool to
Speaker 2: know that, like I got this directly from him, and man,
Speaker 2: what a cool movie. What an interesting guy.
Speaker 1: So shout out to him, and uh, what about you, uncle?
Speaker 6: Who you shout out to all the listeners out of
Speaker 6: the United States like usual I do every week and
Speaker 6: on the others, all the others.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about Chuck, do you want to do a
Speaker 1: shot out?
Speaker 7: Shut up?
Speaker 8: I'm good this week.
Speaker 1: I'm good good, Okay, So no shout out there.
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