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<v Speaker 1>In a very happy Tuesday pea, It's time for military

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<v Speaker 1>badassery and a book to talk about. My next guy

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<v Speaker 1>is William Dunn, President's Strategic Resilience Group, LLC. Started the

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<v Speaker 1>company of twenty sixteen after retirement from a thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>year career in the United States Military, during which he

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<v Speaker 1>rose to the ranks of private through sergeant, second lieutenant

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<v Speaker 1>through colonel Tenant Old Dominion University, got a BA from

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<v Speaker 1>then Boston University, where he got a master's and A

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<v Speaker 1>in business as well as strategic studies. Wants to complete

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<v Speaker 1>the Military Basic School in the Infantry Officers Course in Quantico.

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<v Speaker 1>He reported to NES Pensacola four Flight Training. Getting to

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<v Speaker 1>the subject of the book. To sign is a Marine

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<v Speaker 1>Cobra pilot and complete multiple deployments in a seven month

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<v Speaker 1>deployment to Iraq as commander of HMLA three sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>The gun Fighters and support of Operation of Rocky Freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the program to talk about your book, Gunfighters Rule,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you for your service. Retired Colonel William Bernard Dunn.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, Bryan, thanks for having me. I really appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh that that update there, so that sounded great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you, man, it's you. You lived it.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta asked it before we get to talking about

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<v Speaker 1>gunfighters Rule and the story you've got there. Where did

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<v Speaker 1>you get Berner from as the as the nickname?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's let's let's just put it this.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna that's gonna cost you a beer to get

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<v Speaker 2>that whole all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I got a I got a stack of challenge coins, Colonel,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll I'll be sure and have one in my

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<v Speaker 1>pocket next time we sit down. Catch you off guard. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I appreciate that. Now, gunfighters Rule, Obviously, you

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<v Speaker 1>lived a life. You were in combat. You flew. What

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<v Speaker 1>kind of helicopter did you fly? Was it a viper

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<v Speaker 1>or a venom?

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<v Speaker 2>Or it was a whiskey cobra, whisky cobra, the venom

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<v Speaker 2>and the vipers. I got some time in the Huey's

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, the four belated Cobra came out right as

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting ready to retire. I got a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of simulator time, but I never actually got the fly

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<v Speaker 2>to four lady cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you you, obviously, or at least I presumably you

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<v Speaker 1>saw combat.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I saw combat uh many times, primarily

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<v Speaker 2>as a Ford air controller during O A F one

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<v Speaker 2>and then as a squadron commander of the Gunfighters in

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<v Speaker 2>O F six eight. So I've got got quite a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of time on the ground over in Iraq for

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<v Speaker 2>four combat deployments to Iraq, uh, And I did a

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<v Speaker 2>combat deployment to Mogadishu, but I didn't I didn't return fire.

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<v Speaker 2>They shot at us. We never saw whatever it's coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>So a little bit of combat all over. But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of a lot of my brothers

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<v Speaker 2>and sister did a lot more than me.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, I understand you. Most folks that serve their

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<v Speaker 1>country honorably always tell the story of the other guys

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<v Speaker 1>and how much more of the other people did. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm certain that's a bit of being humble on your part.

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<v Speaker 1>So is this is the gunfighters rule? Is it your

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<v Speaker 1>story or is it a work of Is it fictional account?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, as I read the notes, it tells

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<v Speaker 1>the story of a boy destined become the United States Marine,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds like it could be either fact or fiction.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this your story?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's my story for sure? All right? Now I

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<v Speaker 2>started out a young young lad with my father and

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<v Speaker 2>mother were Air Force veterans, and my dad was in

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<v Speaker 2>the Air Force, and when I was a young kid,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad started talking about how awesome these marines were.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though he was in the Air Force, he loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>And our neighbor was a marine. I had a cousin

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<v Speaker 2>who was a marine, and uh, well, you know, long

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<v Speaker 2>story short. My dad passed away when I was very young,

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<v Speaker 2>and I talk about that in the book with some

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<v Speaker 2>strange things happened during that time. And then when I

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<v Speaker 2>turned seventeen, I joined the Marine Corps. That's amazing to

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<v Speaker 2>get my mom to sign off, and there's a story

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<v Speaker 2>about that in there too, because at first she said,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, no, marines are crazy. You're never going to

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<v Speaker 2>the Marine Corps.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. Now I have to ask you you you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned you were shot at, and of course, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in combat in a helicopter, I've always wondered because to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a pants soiling experience because you're in

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<v Speaker 1>this this obviously visible aircraft overhead. And since we live

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<v Speaker 1>in times with modern warfare and heat seeking rockets and

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder fire missiles and things like that, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>cope with that situation, and what do you do to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid getting hit?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you just fly your tactics. And it's interesting. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say this for myself and most of the cover

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<v Speaker 2>plots I've talked to, no one's worried about themself getting

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<v Speaker 2>shot down. You're worried about your women getting shot down

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<v Speaker 2>or the guys on the ground. And that's the stress.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember we used to we used to escort

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<v Speaker 2>trucks and you're driving, you know, you're flying cobras overhead,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're escorting trucks and one time a truck hit

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<v Speaker 2>an idea blew up. The feeling of that is insurmountable

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<v Speaker 2>because you're helpless. And so one day, and we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this in the book, a truck hits an I

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<v Speaker 2>d and we find a guy that we call him

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<v Speaker 2>the trigger Man, and we find him and I'm rolling

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<v Speaker 2>in to shoot him and I can see him playing

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<v Speaker 2>this day from a code bore about three hundred feet.

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<v Speaker 2>He surrounds himself with the women and children literally, so

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<v Speaker 2>we don't shoot. That was a tough day, and we

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<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit. It's called UH It's called Gunfighter

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<v Speaker 2>Village in the book. That is UH you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>I talked the marines that were with me on that day,

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<v Speaker 2>we still get stressed out about it. But but we

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<v Speaker 2>got everybody out. Uh nobody, Well, I shouldn't say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody on our side. There's two sides of this river.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody on our side of the river got killed. But

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the our our army brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>they took a beatn and lost lost some soldiers pretty

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<v Speaker 2>pretty terribly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's a shame, and you got to live with

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<v Speaker 1>that the rest of your life. Now I hear. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reading that you mentioned a family destroyed by tragedies as

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<v Speaker 1>well as disillusionment, disillusionment by the institution. Can you put

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<v Speaker 1>a little flesh on the bones of that without revealing

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<v Speaker 1>too much? It's in the book because I know my

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<v Speaker 1>listen is going to just eat this up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so you know, think I'm eleven years old. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad dies. Right the following year, our house burns.

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<v Speaker 1>Down, Oh my god, not all the way down, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It burns up so bad we had to move. That

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<v Speaker 2>was coming off my mother, who early on in her

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<v Speaker 2>life had had a stroke, a very terrible stroke. So

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<v Speaker 2>she had a stroke. My dad died, house burns up

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<v Speaker 2>we got to move out, and then my mother ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>we end up moving into a great house. We end

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<v Speaker 2>up losing that house because she she couldn't afford it.

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<v Speaker 2>So a bunch of tragedy there, and you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff growing up that we learned. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the Marine Corps. I love the Marine Corps.

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<v Speaker 2>When you read the book, people will understand exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about. There are some things that happen within

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<v Speaker 2>our beautiful corps that are not great. And like when

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<v Speaker 2>I joined the Marine Corps when I was seventeen, I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be a marine recon. That's what I

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<v Speaker 2>was promised. And when I'm at boot camping I talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this in the book, they call out done supply

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<v Speaker 2>and they said, well hold on, hold on, there's a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>And my start and instructor he looks at me in

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<v Speaker 2>the eyes a great grace. Svandi goes, your recruiter lied

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<v Speaker 2>to you, and and he did. He did. I came back.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to see him. He goes, I lied to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a marine who cares. And he was right. And

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<v Speaker 2>so that's the weird thing. But I love the Marine Corps.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, It's like I won't allow anyone that's not

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<v Speaker 2>a marine to talk bad about the Marine Corps. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Marines know what I'm talking about. We are a

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<v Speaker 2>cult and we are a tribe, but not everybody in

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<v Speaker 2>the tribe is as perfect if you will, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not perfect, we all all of us. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>a single marine that hasn't made a mistake to where

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<v Speaker 2>they could have been, you know, their career could have ended.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know one, including some of my friends that

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<v Speaker 2>have risen to very high general officer ranks. Every one

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<v Speaker 2>of us have made a mistake that we could have

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<v Speaker 2>been fired relieved. You know, you just never know, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess from what I've talked. I've talked to many,

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<v Speaker 1>many folks who served or actually currently served, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of listeners in my audience who are

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<v Speaker 1>part of the broader military family, if I can characterize

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<v Speaker 1>it that way. And one of the things that's come

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<v Speaker 1>through regularly is that after being discharged from the military,

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<v Speaker 1>you go into civilian life, and one of the problems

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<v Speaker 1>that retired military face they missed the camaraderie. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>me like you thoroughly enjoyed the camaraderie of the Marine,

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<v Speaker 1>and how did you adjust to post military life in

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<v Speaker 1>the absence of you know, your brothers, if I may

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<v Speaker 1>put it that.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, Well, that's a great question. So I opened a

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<v Speaker 2>company with two other retired Marines and we support Davy,

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<v Speaker 2>Marine Corps, Army Air Force all over the world. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how I cope with it. But yeah, so I get

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<v Speaker 2>to spend some time with Marines. Not every week, but

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<v Speaker 2>definitely a couple of times a month. And I will

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<v Speaker 2>tell you this, here's the big difference when you transition

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<v Speaker 2>in for any veterans out there, you probably will agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone getting ready to retire or get out think about

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<v Speaker 2>this is that you know, when you're a sergeant in

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<v Speaker 2>the Marine Corps or a colonel in the Marine Corps

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<v Speaker 2>and you tell us a bordinate to do something, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do it. Period. They may blow up a

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<v Speaker 2>truck to get it done. They may you know, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it takes, they will get it done. It's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>always that way in the Saveyan world.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, right, oh, if it were only that way,

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<v Speaker 1>If it were only.

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<v Speaker 2>That way, you know, it's like, you know, I'll ask

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to do something, right, which is a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in the Marine Corps. You don't ask, you tell, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>devil dog, I need you to go take care of this,

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<v Speaker 2>and they do it. And one of the things I

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that in the book, and I asked the

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<v Speaker 2>Marine lieutenant to go blow something up one day, and

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<v Speaker 2>he sure as he did it. Not the way I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking he was going to do it, but he

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<v Speaker 2>did it. And I it's funny because I talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a brief one day to a one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty Northrop Grumman executives on how military leadership applies

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<v Speaker 2>in the civilian world. And what's interesting about that is

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<v Speaker 2>what you know in the civilian world, you may hear

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<v Speaker 2>this phrase do whatever it takes, right, you do never

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<v Speaker 2>never want to tell a marine there. If you tell

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<v Speaker 2>a marine do whatever it takes, they will do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got to define parameters.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to put some forivers on it, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I look back when I was a young Marine

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<v Speaker 2>lance corporal, that was carte blanche, do whatever it takes,

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<v Speaker 2>devil dog. I'd be like, yes, sir, I get a

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<v Speaker 2>big happy smile on my face and I'd go blow

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<v Speaker 2>up the world to get something done. And I tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what. Those my brothers and sisters that are still

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<v Speaker 2>in We'll do that. They they chomp at the bit

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<v Speaker 2>when you say do whatever it takes. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's what creates the sort of the out

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<v Speaker 1>of the box thinking that military members of the military

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<v Speaker 1>are known for. That's why I think that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons why they're fully appreciated and recognized by many

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<v Speaker 1>employers as great employees. They take charge, they figure things out,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do what they're told. You know, maybe within

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<v Speaker 1>some defined parameters out here in the in the civilian world,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're great at getting things.

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<v Speaker 2>Done well they are. And the other thing that is

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<v Speaker 2>beneficial is that I was a Marine Cobra pilot. My

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<v Speaker 2>first job in my squadron as a lieutenant was the

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<v Speaker 2>legal officer. I have no legal background, but my job

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<v Speaker 2>was to advise my commander on legal issues in our squadron.

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<v Speaker 2>As a brand new first lieutenant cover pilot. One of

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<v Speaker 2>my next jobs was ordnance officer. I had to learn

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<v Speaker 2>about all the not I knew all the ordinance on

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<v Speaker 2>the aircraft. I had to learn and be with my

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<v Speaker 2>Marines and they showed me how to load it and

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<v Speaker 2>all the rules and regulations, and then you know that's

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<v Speaker 2>so whatever job you get, it doesn't matter. The CEO says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you are now the logistics officer. That's what you go do.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it makes military men and women very, very diverse,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have to learn quickly how to be an expert.

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<v Speaker 1>Marine Colonel William Bernard donn get a copy of the

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<v Speaker 1>book Gunfighter's Rule. Retired colonel. We put this your book

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<v Speaker 1>on my blog page Pitty five Casey dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>my listeners is going to love to get a copy

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Thank you and God bless you for your

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<v Speaker 1>service to our country. My friend, it's been wonderful having

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation with you.