WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:02.960 A year and a half ago, John Cena stood in 2 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:05.799 the ring during Money in the Bank and he announced 3 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:09.960 that he was going to be retiring in twenty twenty five, 4 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:13.039 that this would be his final year in the ring. 5 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:16.920 People began to wonder, you know, what is this retirement 6 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:19.879 year going to look like, and fantasy booking all of 7 00:00:19.879 --> 00:00:22.920 the different matches that he could have and all of 8 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:25.440 the old faces that he could step into the ring with. 9 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:28.120 And of course now we are at the end of 10 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:31.199 the retirement run, and there's going to be a lot 11 00:00:31.280 --> 00:00:34.840 said and a lot made about this final year for Sena. 12 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:36.679 The good, the bad, the ugly. There was a lot 13 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:39.439 of it this year. But one decision that I was 14 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:43.439 pretty content with was Gunther as his final opponent. There 15 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:45.079 were some people who did not like the idea of 16 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:48.000 Gunther being this man's final opponent. They think Gunther is boring. 17 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:52.759 I don't see Guntherer as boring. I see gun Through 18 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:55.759 as a throwback. I see Gunther as the ultimate final boss. 19 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:58.960 I see gun Through as somebody who it's almost impossible 20 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:01.039 to go in there with and have a bad match. 21 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.040 So you could at least be assured that John Cena 22 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:06.239 and his final match was going to be able to 23 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:09.079 go out there and have a good outing on his 24 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:11.599 way out right, win or lose, it didn't really matter. 25 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:14.359 But over the course of this retirement run, there's been 26 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:17.840 a lot of missteps and a lot of men they 27 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:19.799 should have done this, And everybody's going to have their 28 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:22.200 own ideas and opinions on that, and that's cool, right, 29 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:25.480 that's wrestling, that's the discourse online. Everybody can have their 30 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:28.200 own opinion about how things should have gone. I have mine, 31 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:33.120 you have yours. But one thing that I really felt 32 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:35.280 in the weeks leading up to this show, even though 33 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:37.879 it goes against all conventional wisdom, you would hear from 34 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:41.840 these old school wrestlers that say, you have to go 35 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:43.640 out on your back. You have to go out, you 36 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:45.000 have to go out the right way, you have to 37 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:46.640 do the honors on the way out. You have to 38 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.079 leave things better than you left it, and you have 39 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:51.920 to leave it that way because you're gone and whoever 40 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:55.480 beats you is going to continue on. And I understand that. 41 00:01:55.599 --> 00:02:00.959 I understand that concept, I get that idea. Really felt 42 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:04.040 that it would be the wrong move for John Cena 43 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:07.120 to go in there and lose his final match, especially 44 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:09.960 after this run that he has had very mixed bag. 45 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:15.400 Nineteen thousand people there in Washington, DC tonight and men, 46 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:18.599 if these people deserved anything, it was a happy ending. 47 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:21.400 It was to send these people home happy and have 48 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.120 one really happy memory of John Cena's final match at 49 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:29.159 the end of a very mixed retirement run. And it 50 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:32.919 came into tonight and we had the match between these 51 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:35.360 two men, and it will not go down as the 52 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:37.960 best match of John Sena's retirement run. John Cena has 53 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:40.520 had better matches this year. John Cena had a better 54 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:42.759 match with Cody Rhodes. John Cena had a better match 55 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:46.599 with aj Styles. It was not a bad match. They 56 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:48.719 actually went in there. I thought they had a good match. 57 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:51.919 I'm not going to sit here and tell you that 58 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.159 it was amazing, awesome stuff because it was, and it 59 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:58.759 never really reached that level. It actually it got a 60 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:03.400 little repetitive there in the middle after some of those 61 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:06.280 clothesline spots. But as the match went on, you know, 62 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.919 they had the people on all the near falls and 63 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:11.360 it was building and it was like, Okay, this is 64 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:13.120 the kind of match I was expecting these dude to 65 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:15.560 go out there and have. But the story coming into 66 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:18.599 the match was Gunther going on television and saying, I'm 67 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:21.400 not just going to beat John Cena. I'm going to 68 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:26.039 make him give up. John Cena's entire run over the 69 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:29.520 past twenty years has been about one thing, never give up. 70 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:31.879 It's on all of his t shirts, it's on all 71 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:33.960 of his hats, it's on all of his little towels 72 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:37.479 that he comes out. Every single time he comes out, 73 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:40.080 we see the little towel, never give up, all the 74 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:42.599 little kids running around, never give up. Right, It's his 75 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:46.639 whole mantra. This entire Babyface run over the last two 76 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:50.039 decades has been built around this idea that you never 77 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:54.599 give up. And they really wanted you to believe coming 78 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:56.400 into the show that Gunther was going to make this 79 00:03:56.439 --> 00:03:59.240 guy give up. And I said it even as late 80 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.240 as last night in the SmackDown review, I say, I 81 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:04.439 would be stunned if they go in there and the 82 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:06.879 one thing that they do is they have this man 83 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:11.719 tap out verbally submit. Nobody really does that anymore. That 84 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:13.159 used to be the way it was done before Ken 85 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.840 Shamrock came in, but now everybody taps out. I would 86 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:20.199 be stunned if they went that route. As the matches 87 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:22.480 going on. We see Gunther with the sleeper hole. He's 88 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:24.920 trying to put John Cena out, but he keeps fighting 89 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:26.879 out of it. And I loved it because they did 90 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:30.000 the spot where the arm drops once and then the 91 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:34.120 arm drops twice. When was the last time WWE did that? 92 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.519 They've been doing the one arm drop now for years, 93 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:38.680 but all of a sudden tonight it's the old school 94 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:42.639 way of doing it. But nevertheless, but then John Cena 95 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:44.959 he's still in it right. He keeps fighting and he's fighting, 96 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:48.759 and he's fighting until ultimately he can fight no more. 97 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.160 Gunther has him in the sleeper hole. The fans are 98 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:54.959 the fans are literally chanting at him, don't give up? 99 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:59.360 And what does John Cena do? How do they decide 100 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:02.319 to end this match here? How do they decide to 101 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:06.319 end this retirement run by having John seen a look 102 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:07.519 And I don't know if he was looking at his 103 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:09.199 wife or who he was looking at. He was looking 104 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:12.759 at somebody in the crowd. He didn't look particularly bothered 105 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:14.839 by being trapped in this sleeper hole. He had a 106 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:18.759 smile on his face. Perhaps he was resigned to his fate. 107 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:22.079 I'm sure there are people that will argue, well, can't 108 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:24.120 you see the story that was being told here? This 109 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.000 man was trapped at a hold he knew from which 110 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:28.439 there was no escape. Everything he was trying to do 111 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:31.759 to this man wasn't working. He had no choice but 112 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:35.120 to tap out. And what followed was the most half 113 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:37.600 hearted tap out that you will ever see in a 114 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:42.920 professional wrestling match, as the man goes out tapping with 115 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:47.480 a smile on his face and not since the Undertaker's 116 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:51.959 streak was broken at WrestleMania, have you seen a crowd 117 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:57.639 this stunned, stunned, little kids in the crowd, crying, people 118 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.120 with their eyes wide open. Right, this is what they 119 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.839 were going for. They were going for the moment, They 120 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:05.199 were going for the visual. They had the camera all 121 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.040 prepared and ready for all the crowd shots, for all 122 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:11.360 the shock fans in the audience. They weren't too happy 123 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:16.959 about what they saw. Gunter beat John Cena by making 124 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.480 him do the one thing that he told everybody, never do, 125 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:23.680 never give up. Now, you could say that there's some 126 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.759 sort of poetic justice in that. You could say that's 127 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:29.480 some sort of metaphor story there to it. All I 128 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:36.399 saw there was a finish that was completely and utterly horrendous. 129 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:42.600 I disagree wholeheartedly with that finish, and obviously the crowd 130 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:44.920 of Washington, DC did as well. But you can understand 131 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:46.959 why because a lot of people in the building tonight, 132 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:51.759 nineteen thousand people basically gave their first born away to 133 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:55.000 get tickets to this show. That is not the outcome 134 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.240 that they were hoping for. At the end of this show, 135 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:01.279 Triple H comes out with the rest of the locker 136 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.800 room when the match is over, and boyd they didn't 137 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:07.399 like Triple H either. They let him have it. Fuck you, 138 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:13.600 Triple H, you fucked up, serenaded with Chance from this crowd. 139 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:15.920 He was the biggest heel in the building. Triple H 140 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:19.439 ended up being a bigger heel than Gunther. The final 141 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:23.000 visual or one of the final visuals and parting images 142 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.360 of John Cena's retirement will now be Triple H being 143 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.399 booed out of the building in Washington, DC and being 144 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:35.519 serenaded by Chance of you Fucked Up. That is now 145 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:40.720 one of the lasting images of John Cena's retirement. And 146 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:43.199 my issue isn't even that they had Gunner win the match. 147 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:45.839 I would have preferred to see John Cena get the 148 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:49.040 win because sometimes you know, what for the crowd, and 149 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:51.199 not just the crowd in Washington, but just the audience 150 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:54.399 in general. It's just the right thing to do. You 151 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.480 talk about moments, you talk about reading the room right, 152 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:00.360 Reading the room is not something the WW He did 153 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:04.000 very well tonight. But I don't even have an issue 154 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:06.000 so much with gun Through winning the match. It's the 155 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:09.279 way in which he won the match. I think that 156 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:12.040 was a horrendous decision. And I can't sit here and 157 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:14.000 tell you for sure that it was even Triple H's 158 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:18.240 final decision. It probably was. Maybe it was John Cena 159 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:20.439 who went to them and said this is the way 160 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:23.000 that I want to go out. I find that hard 161 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:25.639 to believe, because all we've been told this entire time, 162 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:29.199 including by Sena himself, is how deferential he is to 163 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:32.120 the powers that be, how deferential he always was to 164 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:35.320 Vince McMahon, how deferential he is to Triple H. He 165 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:38.120 doesn't rock the boat, he shows up to work, he's 166 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:40.840 a loyal soldier, he does what he's told, he doesn't 167 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:45.000 push back. Now I'm supposed to believe that John Cena 168 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:46.360 came in and said this is the way that we're 169 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.360 going to do things. Maybe it was you know what, 170 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:50.679 even if it was John Cena's decision, I hope he's 171 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.120 content with his decision because he deserves to be. He 172 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:57.480 deserves it. John Cena has put over twenty years of blood, 173 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:00.799 sweat and tears into this company, has gone in there 174 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:04.440 year after year after year and busted his ass and 175 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:06.879 worked his way up the ladder, and has had tons 176 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:10.039 of classic matches, seventeen World Championships, all the make a 177 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:11.840 Wish stuff, all the stuff that he has done for 178 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:15.840 this company over two decades. He deserves to go out 179 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:19.759 the way that he wants. To me. This reeked of 180 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:23.360 a WWE creative decision that, you know what, the ultimate 181 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:26.360 thing for us to do, We're gonna have John Cena 182 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:29.600 go in there and give up. Boy, what a rub 183 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:32.960 that'll give to Gunther. So now I have to sit 184 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:35.720 here and I have to, I'm sure, wade through comments 185 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:38.960 about well, you know, it's all about the future. Yes, yes, 186 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.879 forty year old Gunther is the future. It's all about 187 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:44.080 the future, and it's all about giving gun through the rub. 188 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:47.039 As if Gunther beating John Cena it any other way 189 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:49.320 wasn't enough of a rub for him to go out there. 190 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:51.159 From this point on, and say that he was the 191 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:55.879 man who retired John Cena. I'm the man who put 192 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:59.559 John Cena out. Had John Cena gone stone cold unconscious, 193 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:01.759 let's say in the Sleeperholder, I'm the man who pinned 194 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.600 John Cena's shoulders to the mat. You would have gotten 195 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:08.200 plenty of rub out of that. You want to prepare 196 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:12.080 Gunther for a big match with brock Lesner. I don't 197 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:15.320 really see what major difference that would have made. But instead, 198 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:17.399 what you did is you gave the fans the most 199 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:22.440 deflating possible finish to the man's final match. And on 200 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:24.600 top of all that, and on top of the crowd 201 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.679 rebelling and turning against this finish, and it got ugly there. 202 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:31.600 It got ugly at the end, and frankly, you know, 203 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:34.480 John Cena didn't deserve that in his final match. That 204 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:36.519 this is now going to be the story of the match. 205 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:41.120 But beyond that, they play a tribute video to John 206 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.240 Cena and we get to watch him in picture and 207 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:45.600 picture as he's watching this video. And then when it's over, 208 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:49.039 John Cena does what many wrestlers do when they have 209 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:53.159 wrestled their final match. Undertaker did this. It wrestled mania 210 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:55.679 thirty three when he thought he had wrestled his final match. 211 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:01.320 Probably should have, but there in Orlando, took the jacket off, right, 212 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:05.399 took the gloves off, took the hat off, left it 213 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:07.879 in the middle of the ring. We just saw the 214 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:10.360 Dudley Boys and the Hardy Boys at the TNA bound 215 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:11.879 for Glory pay per view at the end of their 216 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:14.720 ladder match. Right left their boots in the ring, gave 217 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:17.320 their boots to Matt and Jeff Hardy. That's what you do. 218 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:21.039 John Sena takes off his sneakers and he takes off 219 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:26.720 the armbands and he leaves the ring. No comments, no 220 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:32.399 postmatch speech, nothing. So as if the finish wasn't bad 221 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:35.639 enough and that wasn't deflating enough, they didn't even get 222 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.679 to hear from John Cena. He just left. He saluted everybody, 223 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:42.120 and he was gone like a flash in the wind. 224 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:47.679 And so ends a twenty plus year career, in my opinion, 225 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:52.240 in the most deflating possible way, after a very mixed 226 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.879 bag of a retirement tour. This will be a finish 227 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:56.799 that will be debated by people. I'm gonna get all 228 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:58.919 kinds of comments from people, Oh you're wrong, this is 229 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.000 how it had to be. This is how it had 230 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.799 to be. He had to tap out. No he didn't, No, 231 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:05.960 he didn't. And the fact that he did, and did 232 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:09.960 so in the most anti climactic way possible, it was 233 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:12.679 almost an appropriate way, frankly for his final match to 234 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:15.519 end on this retirement tour in many ways. You know what, 235 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:18.240 Maybe it was apropos that it ended the way that 236 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.639 it did, But I just think that sometimes you know 237 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.720 what you do what's right in terms of the story, 238 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:26.720 and you do what's right in terms of what you 239 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:29.840 think is going to be an appropriate ending to that story. 240 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.080 I think John Cena should have won. The fact that 241 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:36.159 Gunther won, fine, they're gonna build him up for some 242 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:38.360 big match at WrestleMania. He's now going to be the 243 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:40.399 career ender. He's going to be the legend Killer, now 244 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:43.799 the new legend Killer. He retired Bill Goldberg, he retired 245 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:46.879 John Cena. He'll probably retire AJ Styles and they'll have 246 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:49.080 a really good match next year, and so on and 247 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:51.080 so forth, and you know what, I hope it all 248 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:54.879 works out for them. But it's not as if if 249 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:56.679 the finish had gone a different way and he won 250 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:00.720 in different fashion, that it would have negatively impacted his 251 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:03.639 perception among wrestling fans that it would have somehow negatively 252 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.159 impacted the perception of Gunther as this destroyer. He would 253 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:09.039 have been just fine, but you would have been able 254 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:10.720 to give the crowd at least something to hang their 255 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:12.879 hat on. This is a man who spent twenty years 256 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:15.080 saying never give up, and in the end, even though 257 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:17.799 this man wanted him to, guntherer literally was in the 258 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:19.679 middle of the ring on Raw Monday night telling us 259 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:22.279 I'm going to make you give up. Right. We got 260 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:25.759 no response from Seena because he wasn't around to promote 261 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:28.639 the match, and then you just go in there and 262 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:30.559 he does exactly what he said he was going to do, 263 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:34.600 instead of having John Cena say you know what, I'm 264 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:37.399 not gonna do it and let him go out cold. 265 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:40.840 Even that I could have accepted, and frankly, the fans, 266 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:42.960 while they would have been disappointed, I think they would 267 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:44.720 have been able to stomach that a little bit better. 268 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.080 But now they're getting a lot of backlash for that finish. 269 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:50.480 What do you expect People paid a lot of money 270 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:52.120 to come to this show to see John sate his 271 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:54.120 final match, and that's the ending you give them. You 272 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:57.200 can't fault the fans for being upset and rebelling against 273 00:13:57.200 --> 00:14:02.159 the finish or the fucking match. It's not like the 274 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:04.120 fans were missing the point here. I think the fans 275 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:05.879 have a right to be upset about it. I don't 276 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:10.639 blame them. They went with the one finish that I 277 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:13.879 said this would be the worst finish that they could do. 278 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:20.480 And that is how John Cena's career comes to an end. 279 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:24.559 Selfless until the very end, because the story about John 280 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:27.840 Cena in the last several years of his career is 281 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:31.000 that again, he is willing to do whatever he thinks 282 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:34.519 is going to be good for the company and whatever 283 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:37.279 the company expects him to do. And if this is 284 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:39.120 what the company expects him to do, then you know what, 285 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:40.519 He's going to go out there and he's going to 286 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:42.039 do it to the best of his ability. But I 287 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:44.279 think what ends up happening sometimes is you do it 288 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:49.559 to the detriment of the show. You're telling stories. You know, 289 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:53.720 they fancy themselves as storytellers. We tell stories, and yes, 290 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:57.080 sometimes those stories aren't happy stories. Sometimes those stories don't 291 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.840 have happy endings. I get that not every retirement on 292 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.240 origunately can be like stings retirement, which was fucking awesome 293 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:05.559 last year, but not every retirement is going to be 294 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:07.759 that way. Sometimes guys are going to go out on 295 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:09.519 the losing end of things. I just think the way 296 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.720 they went about doing it tonight was horrendous, and I 297 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:18.000 think it's sad that part of the lasting image now 298 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:21.879 will be of these angry fans chanting at the booker 299 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.279 when he came out to the ring and saying fuck 300 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:33.279 you Triple H. You fucked up. Yeah you did, you 301 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:37.480 fucked up. But it doesn't take away from the career 302 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:40.679 that John Cena has had. He's had a very blessed career. 303 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:44.039 John Cena has had a more, frankly, a more blessed 304 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:46.120 career than most Hall of famers right now in the 305 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:49.879 WWE Hall of Fame. The longevity that this man had 306 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:52.399 on top for so many years, and we could get 307 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:54.840 into the reasons why that was, and maybe sometimes at 308 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:57.159 the expense of Vince McMahon pushing other people who were 309 00:15:57.159 --> 00:15:59.840 getting over and had their legs cut off. Whether or 310 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:02.039 not you want to blame Sena for that is irrelevant, 311 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:04.480 but the point is this man had a run on 312 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:06.960 top that was longer than frankly most of the major 313 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:08.679 names that you would think of that are probably on 314 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:13.080 many people's Mount Rushmore's. Even Hulk Hogan didn't have as 315 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:15.600 many years on top. During his first run in WW 316 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.480 his first major run as John cenahead, John Cena had 317 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:20.320 him beat by about a year year and a half. 318 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:24.559 Stone Cold Steve Austin the Rock Randy said, we can 319 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:27.120 go up and down the list here. Doesn't mean that 320 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.799 John Cena is the greatest of all time. Of course, 321 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:33.000 that's a very subjective thing. He's not my goat. He 322 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:36.480 may be your goat. He's certainly in the conversation. But 323 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:40.240 wherever you think he falls in that pecking order, the 324 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:43.759 last year will not define his entire body of work. 325 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:46.559 And the fact is he has a very impressive body 326 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:48.240 of work. When you look back on all of the 327 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:50.759 matches that this man has had in his career, and 328 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:54.120 some of those great matches happen this year. Unfortunately, I 329 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:56.960 think we could have gotten more of them, and we 330 00:16:57.080 --> 00:16:59.960 had that terrible heel turn, which never should have had 331 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:04.079 happened in the first place, twelve years too late. I 332 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:06.519 think that he'll turn twelve or thirteen years ago would 333 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:11.279 have been fucking amazing, But it didn't happen, so that 334 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:16.079 story will be told about the final year for John Cena. 335 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:18.200 As far as this show was concerned, one thing John 336 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:19.920 Cena made it very clear that he wanted to do 337 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:22.319 coming into it. He wanted to shine a spotlight on 338 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:26.000 the future and have other matches involving talents from NXT. 339 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:29.119 So we had Obafemi, the NXT champion on this show. 340 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:31.200 We had soul Ruka, who was going to be a 341 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:35.440 future women's World champion guaranteed. We had Leon Slater and 342 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:39.599 Javon Evans. We had the TNA X Division champion on 343 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:43.440 Saturday Night's main event, so that was very cool. There 344 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:46.680 really were no bad matches on the show. Every match 345 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:48.960 was at least good. There was nothing blow away on 346 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:52.440 this show, and there was the potential for that, but 347 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:54.720 they kept many of the matches very short. I don't know, 348 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:56.160 I mean, I don't even know how long did the 349 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:59.720 main event go. The main event was clearly the longest 350 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:01.599 match on the show, but most of the matches on 351 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:03.400 the show, I don't think what longer than maybe ten 352 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.039 minutes or so, so a lot of them never really 353 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:09.039 had time to get going. You had Cody Rhodes and Obafemi, 354 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:12.440 who of course had the screwy finish thanks to Drew MacIntyre, 355 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:16.119 which everybody should have seen that coming. But boy, did 356 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:19.680 Obafemi show up tonight and make a statement. People love 357 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.200 to throw the word aura around when people walk at 358 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.640 Oh this guy, he's got aura, right, this woman has aura. 359 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:29.119 Obafemi has aura. Obafemi walked out there tonight. That's a 360 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:31.559 guy that you can build this company around for years 361 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:34.599 to come. People talk about bron Breaker and other people, 362 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:37.640 Obafemi is at the top of that list. Soul Ruka 363 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:40.519 as far as the women's division, she's also in that 364 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:45.559 top mix going forward. Javon Evans twenty one years old. 365 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:47.720 I mean, my god, he's still so young. But you 366 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:51.319 could see the potential in him as well. So John 367 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:55.240 Cena at least was able to, you know, make one request, 368 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:57.079 which was, I don't want this night to be just 369 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:59.839 about me. I understand it's my retirement, so a lot 370 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:01.319 of it's going to be about me, but let it 371 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:05.160 also be about the other people who are coming up, 372 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:07.640 who are on the ascent like I was when I 373 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:10.000 walked out there and I accepted that open challenge from 374 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:14.240 Kurt Angle in two thousand and two. So I actually thought, 375 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:16.640 as far as Saturday Night's main event shows are concerned, 376 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:18.440 this was one of the better ones that they've done 377 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:21.480 this year. But man, that finish and the way it 378 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:23.599 was done is going to leave a very sour taste 379 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:26.519 in people's mouths. And I do not blame the fans 380 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:29.559 one iota. They have every right to feel that way. 381 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:33.720 You know. Again, sometimes you do a finish that in 382 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:35.720 the moment, yeah, it pisses you off, but like you 383 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:38.319 look at it and go, man, this was the right 384 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:40.440 thing to do. I just don't think this was the 385 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.559 right thing to do. I don't think gunn Through winning 386 00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:45.759 in the way that he did needed to happen that way. 387 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:49.680 I think you could have had a compromise where he wins, 388 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:52.960 but you give seen a little something. He goes down fighting. 389 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:57.279 There was no struggle there. Whatever story they were trying 390 00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:58.720 to tell, or he was trying to tell with that 391 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:01.079 smirk on his face, for me, anyway, it didn't work. 392 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:07.039 It came off as lame and it's too bad because 393 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:09.559 I take him at his word. There will never be 394 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:12.599 another John Cena match ever. Again, what we saw tonight 395 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:15.039 is his last match. This will not be a Terry Funker, 396 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.559 a Mick Foley retirement, or anybody any other number of 397 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:20.480 wrestlers that have said I'm done and then they come 398 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:24.559 back He's finished, and so for it to happen that way, 399 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.519 I think was a shame. Match itself was good, the 400 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:30.880 finish was not, and I'll let you all debate that 401 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:34.680 in the comments. This is your Saturday Night's main event 402 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:37.920 review for John Cena's final match. It is December thirteenth, 403 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:43.240 twenty twenty five. I am the Solemn Monster. Like and subscribe. 404 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:45.319 We got a lot to get into here, and I'm 405 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:47.119 sure you're gonna have a lot of comments about the 406 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.319 main event and how things went down at the end 407 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:52.319 of the show, so send them on in. You'll see 408 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:56.519 them popping up on your screen and we will get 409 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:59.599 into all of it's here from top to bottom. I 410 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:01.920 see a lot of you. 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We love Boots around here. 422 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:46.160 We don't love Bremode. I'll accept it here because it 423 00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:48.640 was a super chat that came in, but just generally speaking, 424 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:52.880 we do not really accept Remote around here. Speaking of boots, 425 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:54.559 I mean, I was gonna say John Seeda left his 426 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:56.640 boots in the ring, but John Steena doesn't wear boots. 427 00:21:57.759 --> 00:21:59.480 I don't think John Seed has worn boots in two 428 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:03.480 thousand and two. By the way, you saw John Cena 429 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:06.039 out there tonight in the jorts. That was the last 430 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:08.920 time that you will ever see John Cena in the jorts. 431 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:12.440 He has said that he'll be making appearances in the future, 432 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:14.759 but in terms of the T shirt and the hat 433 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:19.440 and the jorts and the sneakers, tonight was it. From 434 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:21.240 now on, you're gonna see him in the suit and tie. 435 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:26.440 You're gonna see corporate sena from now on. Shout out 436 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:31.359 to Rob Oh my god, ten more gifted memberships. Look 437 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:35.640 at this, Santa Santa has come early. Let's start from 438 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:39.039 the beginning here. So they opened this show with shots 439 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:43.680 I wish, I wish. We started with shots with shots 440 00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:48.519 of Sean Michaels, Johnny Gargano, there is that's the new 441 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:53.559 Superchat super Cyan Sena. It's the new ten dollars Superchat, 442 00:22:53.720 --> 00:23:00.759 just just the special for Sena's retirement. Shawn Michaels, Jonnie Gargano, 443 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.480 Trish Stratus, Kurt Angle, Mark Henry, they had the Punisher. 444 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:08.400 They had Shane from The Walking Dead actor John Burnhal, 445 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:10.559 who actually I think is oh god, what is he? 446 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:14.920 Is he Kurt Angle's nephew or cousin. He's related to 447 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.039 Kurt Angle, I think by marriage. So he was there. 448 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:19.599 We got a shot at him in the crowd. Rapper 449 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:22.759 Metro Booman was there, so then we got a video 450 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:26.319 retrospective of seeing his career, and then it was time 451 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:30.000 for some actual wrestling, saying did I say it wrong? 452 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:34.359 Super saying okay, thank you. See my understanding is that 453 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:38.519 when it was translated from Japanese to English, the translation 454 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.000 was actually incorrect. So there's a lot of people who 455 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.160 say the word wrong. So I thought it was saying 456 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:47.839 you're telling me. It's saying, well, I'll take your word 457 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.720 for it. You know more about dragon Ball than I would. 458 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:54.359 So Cody Rhodes is the WWE champion. He entered first. 459 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:57.640 I like that. I like that cause you can't really 460 00:23:57.680 --> 00:23:59.640 go wrong here, right, you got two champions coming out. 461 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:02.880 Normally the champion entering first would annoy me, but since 462 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:06.279 they're bold champions, it's okay. Can I just say Obafemi 463 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:09.440 his entrance? I know this is his entrance from NXT. 464 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:13.319 The way they produce and shoot his entrance is fantastic. 465 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:17.119 You see the shadowy figure, you get the music, he 466 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:20.240 comes out, he's doing the dance right. This guy's gonna 467 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:23.559 be fucking money, man. This guy's money. So he makes 468 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:25.359 his way out to the ring, and you know, they 469 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:28.440 pointed out on commentary that he was discovered through their 470 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:31.440 Next in Line program three years ago. So think about this. 471 00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:33.680 Think about where he is right now. He was not 472 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:38.240 wrestling before he was discovered for his athletic background three 473 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:41.400 years ago. He's been doing this for three years, and 474 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.039 look how far he's already come. Think about where he'll 475 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.039 be a few years from now right, it's kind of scary. 476 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.039 So anyway, this was his first main roster match, hopefully 477 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:54.720 not the last one he'll have in these next few months. 478 00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:58.480 So he won the chance here to wrestle Cody by 479 00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:01.799 regaining the NXT Champion from Ricky Saints at the NXT 480 00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:07.039 Deadline show last weekend. Femmy typically, you know, overpowers his 481 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:11.039 opponents in his matches. This was no different here. He 482 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:15.079 was doing the same thing here with Cody throwing him around. 483 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:17.400 There was an early spot where Cody went for that 484 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:20.799 drop down thrust that he does. Oba just reached down 485 00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:23.519 and just grabbed him. He just snatched him and brought 486 00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:26.200 him back up to his feet like a child. So 487 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:29.079 Femmi hit a backbreaker and he was starting to pick 488 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:32.839 apart Cody. Obo whipped Cody into the corner and Cody 489 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:35.720 started throwing some punches. Oba didn't like that, so he 490 00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:38.480 picked up Cody and he bealed him halfway across the 491 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:42.079 ring again like a small child. Cody did dodge a 492 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:45.119 charge in the corner and went for a power slam. Yeah, 493 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:47.519 that snap power slam that he does. He couldn't get 494 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:51.519 him up. Oba just looked at him, so he stuffed 495 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:54.519 that attempt and then hit a power slam of his own. 496 00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:58.599 Every time Cody would throw a kick at Oba, Oba 497 00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:00.359 just shook it off and he would deliver one of 498 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.480 his own. So Oba charge into the corner. Cody moved 499 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:06.519 and that sent Oba into the ring post shoulder first. 500 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.599 So Oba now he staggers back and Cody does hit 501 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.000 the snap power slam this time. Then he hits a 502 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:18.599 Cody cutter and Oba kicks out at two. Cody tried 503 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.319 another cutter, but Femi caught him and Cody twisted Femi 504 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:24.640 out over the top rope to the floor. He went 505 00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:26.799 for a dive out after him, Oba caught him with 506 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.920 an uppercut on the way through. Before Cody could even 507 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:33.759 leave the ring, so Oba charged in the ring again. Cody, 508 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:36.359 though pull down the top rope that sent Oba out 509 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:39.359 of the ring. Cody followed with a suicide dive over 510 00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:42.559 by the aisleway by the way, I forgot to mention 511 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:47.000 Jesse the body Ventura was back tonight. Now, he was 512 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:50.279 not on the actual show, but if you were watching 513 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:54.240 the pre show, they had him as part of the 514 00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:58.119 panel multiple times. And I love it because it's just 515 00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:01.960 Jesse being Jesse. Jesse's always very practical, and Jesse the 516 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:05.799 Know talking about how seen as a seventeen time world champion, 517 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.279 and Jesse says, yeah, but there's one thing you got 518 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:13.279 to remember. If he won it seventeen times, that means 519 00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:16.799 he lost it seventeen times. And that's not something that 520 00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.599 I would be bragging about. And I thought to myself, 521 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:23.920 you know what, He's right, He's right. If you would 522 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:25.960 have asked me if I was a wrestler, would I 523 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.200 rather have like one really long title run or would 524 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:33.839 I rather have like ten shorter ones, I would want 525 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:38.160 the one long title run. To me, that's more impressive, right, 526 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:43.599 thirteen hundred days Roman Reigns is the undisputed champion. That's 527 00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.119 far more impressive than if Roman Reigns won the title 528 00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:50.480 eight times and then lost it eight times. Jesse's right. 529 00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:53.680 As always, Jesse is right. So it was good to 530 00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:56.359 see him back, but he was not on the actual show. 531 00:27:57.440 --> 00:27:59.400 So back in the ring, Cody came off the ropes, 532 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.079 Book caught him and hit a great spinebuster for a 533 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.839 near fall, and the crowd was really with him here. 534 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:09.200 Crowd was super into this. Femi clothes lined him over 535 00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:12.480 the top rope. He went to the outside and he's 536 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:16.119 kind of Cody's over by the announced desk and Oba 537 00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:19.559 is kind of stalking him, and he comes like bron breaker. 538 00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:23.359 He's rounding the bend and he comes charging in. Now, 539 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:26.039 if you have a guy as big as Oba Femi 540 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.839 and he is running towards you, okay at an increased 541 00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:32.799 rate of speed, First of all, I would probably shit 542 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.680 myself and with any luck, it might actually leak out 543 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:38.240 and fall on the floor, and then he would slip 544 00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.839 and fall right and that would be my opening. See, 545 00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.200 that would be my strategy. But here that didn't happen. Instead, 546 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:50.680 he comes charging in with this running uppercut and both 547 00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:54.720 mango flying over the announced desk. Oba took a pretty 548 00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.519 rough bump onto the announced desk and then bounced off 549 00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.400 and landed on the floor. Cody, though, got the worst 550 00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.359 of it because he came up bleeding from the ear. 551 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:06.720 And the first thing I thought of was Travis Scott 552 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.039 at the elimination chamber. When Travis Scott busted his ear drum, 553 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.839 I'm like, ah, that's just what he needs. Another busted 554 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:16.880 ear drum here in twenty twenty five. Hopefully it was 555 00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:20.799 just something superficial but as the match went on, I mean, 556 00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.559 he was bleeding pretty good, to the point where the 557 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.799 blood was kind of smeared across his jaw and it 558 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:28.920 almost looked like, well, is it coming from his ear 559 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:32.200 or his mouth? Clearly it was coming from his ear though. 560 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:36.119 So back in the ring, Femi planted Cody with a 561 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.880 choke slam, only got a two count. Cody came back 562 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.720 with a Cody cutter, and now both men were down. 563 00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.119 Now at this point in the match, the fans begin 564 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.880 to stir. There's a commotion in the crowd, and I 565 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.640 knew exactly what was about to happen. I knew exactly 566 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:55.000 who was coming out. They weren't showing him. But then, 567 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:58.559 sure enough, who shows up at ringside. It is Drew McIntyre. 568 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.480 He suspended Drew McIntyre, who slides into the ring and 569 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:10.799 he attacks Cody for the very lame disqualification. Fans booed 570 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:14.079 they did not like this finish, not the only finish 571 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:15.960 on this show that they would be booing before this 572 00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.920 night was over. Oba popped up. He also wasn't happy 573 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.440 about this, so he pulls McIntyre off of Cody. The 574 00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.279 two of them share a stare down now the fans 575 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.559 are getting into this. They like this. So McIntyre is 576 00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.880 like putting his finger at his chest and Oba shoves 577 00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:36.240 him back on his ass and his McIntyre gets back 578 00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.920 up to his feet, Cody comes off the ropes, takes 579 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:42.039 him down with a Cody cutter, and then Oba puts 580 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.880 the exclamation point on things with a choke slam. So 581 00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:53.119 Drew McIntyre still jobbing then, now and forever, poor Drew. 582 00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:55.759 And you know what, I'd like to say that I'm 583 00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:59.039 confident that when he and Cody get back in the 584 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:03.440 ring together, I'm guessing on January second, he might actually 585 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:08.000 win the championship this time. I cannot sit here and 586 00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:11.359 tell you that I am terribly confident about that, although 587 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:13.279 I will say if they're gonna do the match, that 588 00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:15.559 there's really no reason to do it. If not to 589 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.720 put the title and Drew, are they actually going to 590 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:23.559 follow through and do it, that's a different story. So 591 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:28.200 Cody grabs both belts and he hands actually tossed the 592 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:33.240 NXT Championship to Oba, and he went to go raise 593 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.480 Oba's arm and the crowd cheered. Oba then raised Cody's 594 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:39.960 arm and they shook hands. So we have a mutual 595 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:43.599 respect here between these two champions, but no clear winner 596 00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.519 because they wanted to play it safe and they didn't 597 00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:49.240 want to beat anybody. Now, in a perfect world, Oba Fem, 598 00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:50.960 you would have gotten the biggest win of his career 599 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:54.720 here and pinned the WWE champion. And I think Cody 600 00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:56.519 is enough of a mad guy that it wouldn't have 601 00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.839 really hurt him. But I get it. I understand them 602 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.480 wanting to pin Cody Rhodes, and I definitely did not 603 00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.640 want to see Oba Femi take a pin here in 604 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:07.920 his first main roster match. I mean, it's against Cody, 605 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:11.759 but still so I get it. I get it. But 606 00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:15.359 too often WWE does this where they have to play 607 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.559 it safe, Right, we can't beat this guy, we can't 608 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:19.319 beat this woman, so we'll have to just play it 609 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:21.519 right down the middle. We'll have a no contest, we'll 610 00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.200 throw it away. You know, after a while, it just 611 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.319 gets tiresome. They're afraid to take chances, that's what they 612 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.759 That's the real issue with the booking a lot of 613 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.119 the time. But I understand why they did this here. 614 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.359 Was it a cop out finish, Yes, yes it was, 615 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:38.079 but they did it in a way that I think 616 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:39.480 was smart because if you were going to do a 617 00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:42.160 cop out finish like this, do it in a way 618 00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.319 where you piss the fans off, but then you give 619 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.039 them a moment right where they can cheer and be happy. 620 00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:50.880 And also you give Oba a moment to shine because 621 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.359 Oba's like, yeah, what the fuck dude? Right, and Oba 622 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.359 beats up Drew, So you make Oba look strong, right 623 00:32:56.359 --> 00:33:00.000 because he didn't ask for this, So let me play 624 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:01.920 this guy down, which is what he did. He put 625 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.960 Drew McIntyre down. That's the right way to do it 626 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:06.720 if you're gonna do a finish like that. But also 627 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:11.480 it's it's interesting, is what we saw tonight a hint 628 00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:14.079 at maybe a direction for Oba if he's gonna be 629 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.039 called up soon to the main roster. Is there a 630 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:22.640 potential WrestleMania match between Obafemi and Drew McIntyre, Because I 631 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:25.119 was thinking about that. If Drew McIntyre's not going into 632 00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:28.680 WrestleMania as the WWE champion, okay, and he's not. He's 633 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.200 not going in into the champion, even if he wins 634 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.119 the belt from Cody in their next match, He's not 635 00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.039 going into WrestleMania as the champion. What does he do 636 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:42.640 at WrestleMania. Now Oba is the NXT Champion. I don't 637 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:44.960 want him to be the NXT Champion for longer than 638 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.400 he needs to be. Obafemi should be on the main 639 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:50.720 roster starting in the Royal Rumble. I would have him 640 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.000 drop that championship in New Year's Evil. I'm gonna I'm 641 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:58.200 gonna say they run back Oba and Javon Evans with 642 00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.839 Ricky Saints thrown in. We may get a triple thread 643 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.200 on New Year's Evil. Since Javon already got his match 644 00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.559 and lost, and you can beat Oba without him having 645 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:11.320 to take the loss, It's perfect. You could put the 646 00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:14.280 NXT Championship back on Ricky Sains at New Year's Evil 647 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:18.800 without Oba Femi even taking the losing fall. You could 648 00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.559 build to Ricky Sains and Javon Evans at Stand and Deliver, 649 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.079 and you can debut Oba in the Rumble and let 650 00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:27.440 that be his official call up to the main roster 651 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:33.039 and SmackDown specifically because SmackDown fucking desperately needs somebody like him. 652 00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.880 Drew McIntyre is on SmackDown Oba, and Drew is a 653 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:41.039 WrestleMania match. Shit, sign me up. I'm all for that. 654 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.320 I think that'd be a great idea. As far as 655 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:49.320 this match here, I love the dominance. Oba was pretty 656 00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.199 freakin' dombina. I mean, the way they portrayed him in 657 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:55.119 this match was pitch perfect. Everything Cody was doing, most 658 00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:59.639 of it was working. Oba looked really good here in 659 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:01.800 this match, and I think he was portrayed exactly the 660 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.320 way that he should be. So I like this. I 661 00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:09.000 thought this was good. I can't say it was great. 662 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.320 You can't have a great match when it's that short 663 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:14.760 with a terrible finish like that. Those are just two 664 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.159 strikes against it. But what they did here I thought 665 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:22.800 was good. Now we have Bailey again soul Ruka. This 666 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.480 is our lone women's match here on this show. Bailey, 667 00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.880 of course representing Monday Night Raw. She came out with 668 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.760 Lyra Valkyria in her corner and we had soul Ruka 669 00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:36.440 out with her tag team partner Zaria. Bailey came out 670 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.199 with a big smile on her face when she saw 671 00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:41.679 Trish Stratus in the front row, she went over to 672 00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.119 go hug Trish and do you know who was sitting 673 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:49.360 next to Trish, Eve Torres? Eve Torres. I had a 674 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:53.360 crush on Eve Torres I thought Eve was just fantastic. 675 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:58.000 Eve is a beautiful woman. She looks the same to 676 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.400 me like Eve is still a beautiful woman. And Eve 677 00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:03.880 is somebody who actually did make improvements in the ring. 678 00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.199 I'm not saying that, you know, she's a Hall of 679 00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:11.280 Fame Women's wrestler or anything like that, but she and 680 00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:14.920 Candice Michelle were two women from that Diva's era who 681 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:18.440 I felt made noticeable improvements in the ring. And of 682 00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.880 course Eve had a storyline at one point with John Cena, 683 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.679 remember her and Zach Ryder and John Cena, And she 684 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.719 kissed Sena, So that's the connection there with her. I 685 00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:30.679 can't remember the last time we've even seen her on 686 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.880 WWE television so many many years they usually don't bring 687 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.239 her back, so it was good to see her. She 688 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.480 was in the front row, so Bailey got a headlock 689 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.199 right off the top and she transitioned into a wastelock takedown. 690 00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:48.320 Ruka took down Bailey with a flipping Rana head scissor, 691 00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:52.679 followed by an X factor. Bailey rolled to the outside 692 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.519 to try to recover, and she was able to lure 693 00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:59.039 Ruka to the ropes. When she got there, Bailey hung 694 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.480 her up on the ropes, so the fight moved out 695 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:05.159 to the apron. Soul kicked Bailey to the ground, hit 696 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.840 a PK right to the face. She went to go 697 00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:11.639 for a flip from the apron, Bailey moved out of 698 00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:14.639 the way, Soul turned around, she got mowed down, so 699 00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:17.840 Bailey threw her back inside. Ruka though, planted a kick 700 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.679 right in Bailey's face, sent her right back out, and 701 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.800 then she hit a handspring moonsaal out over the top 702 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:29.440 rope and landed on top of Bailey. And it's funny 703 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.599 because a friend of mine was watching the show with 704 00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.239 his family and they had never seen Soul Ruca before. 705 00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.480 They don't watch NXT. They don't know anybody from NXT 706 00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:42.199 except you know, Joe Hendry, and he's texting me during 707 00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.400 the show. She's got four new fans now, just from 708 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:48.960 this one match. Sol Ruka got four new fans, at 709 00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:51.719 least just from this one match. They're very impressed by 710 00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.079 what they saw from her here in this match and 711 00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.679 her gymnastics and her tumbling background. The only thing I 712 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.760 fear for when it comes to Soul are her knee. 713 00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:03.760 She's already had an ACL operation right she had the 714 00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:06.920 brace or still had the brace on her knee. When 715 00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:10.119 you're do in a lot of those flips and you know, 716 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:12.159 the over the top moon salts and stuff and landing 717 00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.519 on your feet, you gotta be careful. You know, there's 718 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.280 been an epidemic of knee injuries and ACL tears with 719 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.760 that NXT Women's division over the last few years. That's 720 00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.440 the only thing I worry about with her. But she 721 00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:28.679 stays healthy. Sky's a limit for her. So anyway, Ruca 722 00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:32.159 put Bailey back in the ring went for a springboard splash. Bailey, 723 00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.159 though moved and Soul crashed and burned. She eventually recovered, 724 00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.480 though she went for another springboard, walked right into a 725 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.760 Bailey to belly souplex, only for a near fall. Ruca 726 00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.119 came back with a kick and a backslide. Bailey, though 727 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.599 transitioned into a rose plant. Soul though countered it with 728 00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.880 a shining wizard kind of and then she went for 729 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.079 a springboard. Bailey, though, caught her in another rose plant 730 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.679 and Bailey made a cover, but she pulled her legs 731 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.920 back so far it gave Soul enough room to get 732 00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:07.679 her foot on the ropes. So her being close to 733 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.280 the ropes is what saved the match for her on 734 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:14.360 that rose plant, so Ruka then ended up hitting the 735 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:17.360 soul Snatcher. You can't feature you can't showcase this woman 736 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:19.880 on a show like this and not have her use 737 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.920 the soul snatcher, right, It's one of the best finishes 738 00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.920 I understand, like in a lot of situations. Yes, it 739 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:29.559 does look very contrived, but even still, it is one 740 00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.559 of the best coolest looking finishers in all of WWE. 741 00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:36.480 Anybody watching Soul Ruka hit that move for the first time, 742 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.159 especially like even a non wrestling fan, they see her 743 00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:44.400 hit that move instant fan, so of course she was 744 00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.440 gonna use it here. So she hits it and Bailey 745 00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:50.800 is like, she's kind of sitting up like she's stunned, 746 00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.320 and then she slowly falls down, but it looks like 747 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:56.239 she's almost trying to roll out of the ring, and 748 00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:59.199 Soul grabs her and she's trying to drag her to 749 00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.239 the center of the ring and it's taking too long, 750 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:05.079 and as she drags her in, I guess Bailey was 751 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:09.440 playing possum because she yanked Soul in for a roll up, 752 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:12.000 but then Ruka reversed it into a roll up of 753 00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.280 her own, and she got the flash Pin to win 754 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.559 the match. So then after the match, Zari is all happy. 755 00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.960 She gets into the ring to celebrate with Soul. Lyra 756 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.119 is comforting Bailey. I'm not sure what she's gonna do here, 757 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.079 but she walks over and she shakes hands with Soul. 758 00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:33.719 Bailey had all four women hold up their arms together 759 00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:39.880 and they all saluted in tribute to John Cena. So 760 00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:42.239 this was fun. This was fun. It was the right decision. 761 00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.159 It was the right decision. And I even said in 762 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.280 my predictions, I said, of all of the WWE against 763 00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.679 NXT matches, I had Soul Ruca coming out of this 764 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:56.880 with the win. I just didn't see Oba Femi getting 765 00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:00.320 a clean win over the WWE champion, and I didn't 766 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.280 see it going the way of the NXT guys in 767 00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:05.360 the tag match. But you can't have a show like 768 00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.760 this and not put someone over from NXT. You have 769 00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:12.599 to someone's got to get a win by process of elimination. 770 00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.599 That someone seemed to be sol Ruka, So that's exactly 771 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.119 what happened here. She's another one like Oba who I 772 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:23.800 think would really be a very productive addition to that 773 00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:26.760 SmackDown Women's I mean that SmackDown Women's Division right now 774 00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:30.400 is just dude, it's on life support. Like it is 775 00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:33.920 on life support. Okay, you see the little thing flickering. 776 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.280 It's got a pulse, not a very strong one. It 777 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.519 needs help. The show is going to three hours in 778 00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:42.960 a few weeks. You're gonna have to call up more 779 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:47.679 people than just Lash Legend from NXT, sol Ruka, maybe 780 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:52.320 even sol Ruka and Zaria together, Fatal influence. Jordan Grace. 781 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.519 What she'd been doing, not much of anything lately. She's 782 00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:58.280 been losing a lot. These are people that would not 783 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:01.719 only benefit from being and having new people to work with, 784 00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:05.159 but boy, that SmackDown Women's Division, that SmackDown Show could 785 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.199 really use people like that. So soul. Oh, but these 786 00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.800 are all faces that hopefully we'll see up on Ron 787 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.800 SmackDown in the new year. And then Bailey, I don't know. 788 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:17.800 There was no indication that she was going to snap 789 00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:19.920 or anything like that. I guess we'll find out on Monday, 790 00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:23.400 you know what her reaction is to this loss. But 791 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.880 what we got here from these two was good. You know, 792 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:29.320 it was for sol Ruque. It was a very basic showcase. 793 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.360 But I thought what they did is what they needed 794 00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:37.280 to do. Now. After this, they showed a bunch of 795 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:41.440 other dignitaries that were at the show, including Rob van Dam. 796 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:48.599 Actually it was a video with comments from Rob van Dam, Seamus, 797 00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:55.599 Corey Graves, Becky Lynch, Michael Hayes, stew the cameraman, Michael Cole, 798 00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:59.559 Cody Rhodes, the Undertaker, and the rock who dropped the 799 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:03.400 video on social media earlier. Today. Didn't talk about John 800 00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:07.840 Cena's soul, He just put him over and talked about 801 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:14.679 all their great times together, all their matches together. Michelle McCool, 802 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:18.199 Mark Henry and Rob Van Dam were then shown live 803 00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:21.000 in the crowd. RVD is Always over RVD to the 804 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.239 whole RVD and everybody, all nineteen thousand people in Washington, 805 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:26.639 d C. Did it right along with him. It's good 806 00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:29.039 to see he was actually able to move around and stuff. 807 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.840 I mean, I know he broke both of his heels 808 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:36.360 earlier this year, and so he was basically incapacitated there 809 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:38.840 for a while. And I don't think he's wrestled since 810 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:40.920 I think he broke them. I think he was in 811 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.719 was it like a Battle Royal in MLW, Maybe like 812 00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:46.679 a Battle Riot or something. I don't know what it was. 813 00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:52.840 But seems to be healing okay, so that's good to see. 814 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:55.559 They also showed sammy' z ain. He was right there 815 00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:57.440 in the front row with his son, so that was cool. 816 00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.440 And then they cut to the announcers or ring side, 817 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:03.199 and it was Michael Cole and Wade Barrett on commentary, 818 00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:07.159 and Michael Cole said he wanted to give a shout 819 00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:11.119 out to all of the announcers that he has had 820 00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.960 the privilege of working with over the years and calling 821 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:18.559 all of these John Cena matches with, including Taz, who, 822 00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.840 of course, along with Michael Cole, called John Cena's very 823 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.199 first match John SmackDown back in two thousand and two. 824 00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:28.280 Michael Cole and Taz one of the better commentary duos 825 00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:32.000 that that company has ever had. They're not going to 826 00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.079 be at the top of anybody's list, probably, but they 827 00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:37.960 were a very good team there for a while. So 828 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.920 he shouted him out. He shouted out JBL who he 829 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:46.480 said coined the phrase big match, John Corey Graves, Jim Ross, 830 00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:51.679 and Jerry the King Lawler. Shout out, by the way, 831 00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:55.360 to the twenty eight hundred people hanging with us here 832 00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.119 tonight talking about Saturday Night's main event. Get those messages 833 00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:01.320 on and I'm going to be reading them here in 834 00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:05.719 just a little bit. You have questions, comments, or anything else. Yes, 835 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:11.880 did somebody say soul soul? Ruka is okay, but let's 836 00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:19.159 not talk about souls around the rock. I miss when 837 00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:23.320 wrestling commentary was loose like Taz used to be. Are 838 00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:27.159 you saying Taz was loose? I don't know. Maybe you 839 00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:29.719 know more about his background than I do. I thought 840 00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:31.840 he was a good announcer. I don't know beyond that. 841 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:34.000 I don't know. I don't know what you're referring to. 842 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.480 But I know when brock Lesnar used to come out right, 843 00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:40.079 he had that signature, here comes the pain right. Taz 844 00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:42.239 had his little things right, and TNA was like, let 845 00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:46.239 them puppies loose, or let them pigeons loose. The pigeons 846 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:53.360 with the beautiful people, same thing. I guess AJ Styles 847 00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.519 and Dragon Lee they are the World Tag Team Champions. 848 00:45:57.239 --> 00:45:59.840 This was not a title match, but they were in action. 849 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:06.119 This was a completely randomly announced match on Monday, but 850 00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:08.719 I was okay with it because this was a match 851 00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:10.679 I was very much looking forward to seeing. It was 852 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.480 AJ and Dragonly against Javon Evans, and the TNA X 853 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:21.599 Division champion, Leon Slater. Evans got a good reaction coming out, 854 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.079 less so for Leon, but it's understandable. I mean, there 855 00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:27.159 were a lot of people in that building who probably 856 00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.480 just didn't know who he was. If they're not watching TNA, 857 00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:37.280 they're not watching NXT, then you know, what do you expect. 858 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:41.000 I mean, you gotta give people some background on this guy. 859 00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:43.039 It's not like he was on Rawn SmackDown and the 860 00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.119 lead up to this match. So he got a respectful 861 00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:50.079 but not I wouldn't say terribly strong reaction, but this 862 00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:53.199 was good exposure for him. It was good exposure for TNA. 863 00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:56.920 They acknowledged TNA he had his X Division title with him. 864 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.920 Evans and Slater, they didn't waste any time they wrestled 865 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:03.119 this match, like they just got told, Hey, your time 866 00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:05.599 got cut. That's what this felt like, like, Hey, we 867 00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.639 better get off to the races. Right out of the gate, 868 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:10.960 and they super kicked Lee and Styles out to the 869 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.920 floor right away. Javon did a dive out onto aj 870 00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:18.079 Leon did a dive out over the ring, a twisting 871 00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:21.599 dive out over the ring post onto Dragon Lee. This 872 00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.559 was all in the first like thirty seconds of the 873 00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:28.039 match Evans and Slater. They isolated Dragon in their corner, 874 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:32.679 tagged in and tagged out. They were delivering some splashes 875 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:35.719 and kicks and forearms, and Dragon Lee managed to kick 876 00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.599 his way free. He pulled the top rope down to 877 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.519 send Javon out to the floor. Slater came in. He 878 00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:44.000 tried to close line, but somehow Lee countered and worked 879 00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:48.599 into a sitout power bomb Evans and Styles. They made tags. 880 00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:52.280 AJ hit a leaping forearm and a neck breaker. Styles 881 00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:55.199 then went outside. Evans followed with a moon salt and 882 00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:58.960 nobody was home and Dragon Lee hit a flying rana 883 00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:03.559 on Slater that sent him into the waiting arms of 884 00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:07.039 AJ Styles. And the fans really got excited here because 885 00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:08.960 they thought AJ was going to give this guy a 886 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:14.199 Styles clash on the floor. And meanwhile, before he could 887 00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.679 do it, he turned around and he ate the foot 888 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:19.320 of Javon Evans, who caught him with a superkick right 889 00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:21.880 to the face. So back in the ring, Evans hit 890 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.119 a massive og cutter from god what was it like 891 00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:28.599 twelve feet in the air, followed by swanton four point 892 00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.800 fifty from Slater. Slater went for the pin, Dragon Lee 893 00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:34.239 broke it up we got this is awesome chance here 894 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.199 from the crowd, Lee hit a big dive out onto 895 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.639 Evans while Slater set up Aj in the ring. Styles 896 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.119 Though reversed it and he tried to go for a 897 00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:45.639 styles clash. Slater worked out of it. It led to 898 00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.440 Aj Though setting up for a phenomenal forearm on the 899 00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:54.360 apron and unfortunately this doesn't happen very often with AJ Styles, 900 00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:57.760 but he went for a phenomenal forum and he slipped. 901 00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:02.000 He slipped, and he fell off the top rope, and 902 00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:04.360 I was like, ah, this is not the night that 903 00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.679 you know AJ wants something like that to happen here, man. 904 00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:10.400 But I have to give credit to Leon Slater because 905 00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:14.480 he improvised very quickly. He improvised into a quick pin 906 00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:18.280 attempt only got a two count. Slater went up top 907 00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.440 Styles ended up catching him into a styles clash, and 908 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:26.920 that was all she wrote. You could tell AJ Styles 909 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:31.639 was pissed. He was probably fuming on the inside. He 910 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.519 was barely like holding it together and trying not to 911 00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:38.039 show how angry he was just facially, but you could 912 00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:39.920 tell he was annoyed. But I'm sure on the inside 913 00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:43.559 he was fuming, especially as angry as I know, he 914 00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.559 gets like playing video games, like when he's losing, Like 915 00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:48.360 I remember some of those old videos on Up Up, 916 00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:52.239 Down Down they were playing like Madden or something, and 917 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.480 if he was losing, he's a sore loser, like he 918 00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:58.199 gets angry. So I'm sure like in the course of 919 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.920 a match, something doesn't go it's John seen as last night. 920 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.480 This is a big spotlight, right, a big showcase here, 921 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.480 and he fucks up. Yeah, I mean I would be 922 00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:12.000 upset too, but you know what, kudos to Slater though, 923 00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.119 for a quick recovery. Try to make it look like 924 00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.159 maybe it was intentional and maybe it was part of 925 00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:20.480 the match. I'm sure it's one of those moments where 926 00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:23.119 AJ is just like looking at that going men, see 927 00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.840 this is why, this is why I'm winding things down 928 00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.679 next year. The young guys were moving a million miles 929 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:32.760 an hour because they were just a ball of energy 930 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.199 out there. I'm sure they were very excited. But I 931 00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:38.320 do wonder if maybe they had their time cut. Again, 932 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:39.920 this was not a long match. I don't even think 933 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.400 it went a full ten minutes. So you try to 934 00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:46.280 fit in a lot of stuff in a relatively short 935 00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:49.079 period of time, and then you end up with a 936 00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:51.239 match like this where it's just moving at a very 937 00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:54.400 quick pace. You know, it's not like, Okay, we got 938 00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:56.920 twenty minutes, so we can pace ourselves and we can 939 00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.679 work a body part. That's not what this match was about. 940 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:02.440 These guys are a bundle of energy. This is what 941 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.280 makes them fun to watch. That's what you had on 942 00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.239 display here For what we got. I thought it was 943 00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:12.239 good the finish, and we forget the slit by aj 944 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:18.440 the finish it kind of felt sudden again short, like, man, 945 00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:20.480 we could have taken this another three or four minutes, 946 00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.400 So the finish was a little anti climactic. I'm not 947 00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:26.800 gonna lie, but overall I like the match and for 948 00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:30.119 Leon Slater, big spot for him to get. He's still 949 00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:33.960 under contract to TNA, so you know that's where he 950 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.000 will be. He's there champion, but you got to think 951 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:41.800 in his future probably an NXT contract. Javon evans Sky's 952 00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:44.599 the limit. He's still very young. He still has to 953 00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:47.360 like physically, he still has to fill out, you know, 954 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:49.559 I mean, he's still he's twenty one years old. Both 955 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.000 these guys. I said the other night, I said, if 956 00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:55.559 you add up the ages of both Javon Evans and 957 00:51:55.639 --> 00:52:00.599 Leon Slater. Aj Styles is still older, so like they're 958 00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:02.599 very young. I don't know how old Dragon Lee is, 959 00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:05.559 but like they're very young, but they both have bright 960 00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.639 futures ahead of them. So after this, we had another 961 00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:15.480 tribute video here with comments from various people. Cain Our Truth, 962 00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:21.559 The Miz, Biggie, Kofi Kingston, Alexa Bliss, Logan, Paul Drew McIntyre, 963 00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:25.119 Sammy Zay, and Xavier Woods all thanked John Cena and 964 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:28.880 video messages they came back from break. We had some 965 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:32.440 long breaks in between the matches. I would rather keep 966 00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:34.760 them in between the matches than have them during the matches, 967 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.199 which is the beauty of this no longer airing on NBC. 968 00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:41.480 Fuck NBC. These shows are a lot more tolerable this 969 00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:45.679 way with the commercials in between, but they are very long. 970 00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:49.119 But we had Joe Tessitour up at the hosting position, 971 00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:53.239 not with Jesse Venturi. He was with Stephanie McMahon. Stephanie 972 00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:57.480 McMahon is someone who played a very important role in 973 00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:00.599 John Cena's career. John Cena is not where he is 974 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:05.239 now were it not for Stephanie McMahon. If it wasn't 975 00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.519 for Stephanie McMahon. Hearing him wrap on the back of 976 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.960 the bus on that European tour, John Cena would not 977 00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:13.239 be where he is right now. John Cena would very 978 00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:16.000 likely not be doing Hollywood movies right now. John Cena 979 00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:20.679 very likely is not Peacemaker right now. That's how important 980 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.719 a decision that was to give him the chance to 981 00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:26.400 go on TV and do what he was doing on 982 00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:30.599 the back of that bus. So she's going into the 983 00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:33.360 Hall of Fame next year. If John Cena were to 984 00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:35.840 be inducted into the Hall of Fame next year, and 985 00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.000 I'm thinking now he may not be, because boyd, this 986 00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:40.199 would have been an appropriate night to make that announcement. 987 00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:41.760 For a minute there at the very end, I thought 988 00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:43.400 Triple H was going to point to like a Hall 989 00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:46.400 of Fame, you know, announcement up on the tron. I 990 00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:48.719 thought that's what he was doing. At the end of 991 00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:51.599 the show. I figure, if he's going in next year, 992 00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:53.719 tonight would be a nice night to surprise him, you 993 00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:56.920 know with that announcement. But you know, surprise like, you 994 00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:58.719 got to clear his You got to clear it with 995 00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:00.760 his people first and make sure he could actually do 996 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:03.880 the fucking show as busy as he is, maybe he 997 00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:07.199 can't do it. But I'm just saying, like Stephanie, if 998 00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.639 he was to go in any other year, Stephanie is 999 00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:13.440 probably someone I would have on the shortlist honestly of 1000 00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:16.239 people who can induct him into the Hall of Fame. 1001 00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:19.440 She wouldn't be my top choice. I think Kurt Angle 1002 00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.920 would be a better person for that, but very important 1003 00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.639 part of his career. So anyway, they cut to her 1004 00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:28.960 and Joe at the host position and she's talking, but 1005 00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:32.199 you can see in the background in the ring somebody 1006 00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:35.440 is standing in the ring, and then they interrupt Stephanie 1007 00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:40.760 in mid sentence and it's the Miz. The Miz has 1008 00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:44.559 been complaining on television for weeks now that he wanted 1009 00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.880 to wrestle John Cena. He beat John Cena at WrestleMania 1010 00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:50.880 in the main event Once upon a Time, Yes, which 1011 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:52.679 is true, by the way, one of the worst WrestleMania 1012 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:56.800 main events of all time. So he's rehashing a lot 1013 00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:58.599 of the same stuff in the ring. Apparently he was 1014 00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:01.559 wearing the same ring jacket that he wore he set 1015 00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:05.159 out to the WrestleMania twenty seven main event. So he's 1016 00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:08.800 complaining about being left out of the show. This brings 1017 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:11.639 out our Truth, who comes running down to the ring 1018 00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:16.360 and he said that, you know, you stole someone's opportunity 1019 00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:21.679 when you were playing with Nick Aldos's balls. He yeah, 1020 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.280 from the tumbler, and he presents him with a ball 1021 00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:28.519 with someone's name in it. And the Miz opens the 1022 00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.239 ball and he looks at the name and he's like, 1023 00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:36.119 Joe Hendry, he said his name. So they play his 1024 00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.320 music and guess who shows up. He's right there on 1025 00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:42.719 the apron. Joe fucking Hendry no longer a TNA star, 1026 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:45.679 by the way, he is all in with WWE. He 1027 00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:51.760 is an official WWE contracted performer, and he's on the apron. 1028 00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:55.320 This was a nice surprise. Joe Hendry never got the 1029 00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:57.360 match that he wanted with John seen Remember he was 1030 00:55:57.400 --> 00:55:59.559 trying to will this match into existence at the beginning 1031 00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:02.559 of the year. He was on Busted Open Radio openly 1032 00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:06.119 like lobbying for this match and John Cena. He says 1033 00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:09.079 that the rumble because they were both there. He said, 1034 00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:11.280 John Cena told them, dude, if you want the match, 1035 00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:14.320 you've got to you've got to manufacture it. Man, You've 1036 00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:17.000 just gotta You've got to will it into existence. If 1037 00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:19.480 you can make it happen, we'll do it. And he 1038 00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:21.519 never got his match, but at least he got a 1039 00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:24.039 spot on the show, right, at least he at least 1040 00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:26.280 he was able to do something as part of John 1041 00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:32.880 Cena his final show. So he shows up and Hendry 1042 00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:35.519 ends up taking out the Mizz, lays him out with 1043 00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:38.760 his oh gosh, what does he call his finish again? 1044 00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:46.239 The happy ending or standing ovation? That would be a 1045 00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:48.880 great name for a finish. That's what I call my 1046 00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:54.159 finish whatever the standing oh. He puts the mis down 1047 00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:58.599 with the with the standing oh. And him and Truth 1048 00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:01.679 also did a five knuckle shuffle and tribute to John Cena, 1049 00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:04.960 and then he waved when they played his music again, 1050 00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.639 and the fans and the crowd were waving, and we 1051 00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.920 got the zoom in from the camera, the hardcam on 1052 00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:14.559 Joe Hendry and our Truth, so well, you know whatever, 1053 00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:18.400 this was just it was some filler in between the matches, 1054 00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:23.159 and this was fine. I was happy that Joe Hendry 1055 00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:25.559 was able to get a spot on the show. But 1056 00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:27.880 then after this it all came down to the main event. 1057 00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.119 And this, right here is what this entire show was 1058 00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:33.800 all about. This entire show was built around John Cena's 1059 00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:37.719 final match. The reason you had nineteen thousand plus people 1060 00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:41.880 in Washington, DC tonight was for this match. Right here, 1061 00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:47.480 Gunther comes out, got his boxing RoboN. He makes his 1062 00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:50.239 way down to the ring. Everyone's booing him right. He's 1063 00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:54.719 just the quintessential movie villain here as we get ready 1064 00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:58.639 for the big hero to make his entrance, and he 1065 00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:01.079 actually steps out of the ring when John Scene is 1066 00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:03.039 about to make his entrance out of respect. He's going 1067 00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:05.679 to give the ring to Sina, so he exits and 1068 00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:10.559 they milk this forever. Before they play Seena's music, they're 1069 00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.760 panning the crowd. I was honestly expecting it to be 1070 00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:15.519 a little bit louder. I mean, I think the people 1071 00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:18.400 were just like waiting for the music to hit. So 1072 00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:20.119 they're waiting and they're waiting, and they're waiting, and then 1073 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:22.920 the lights go out and then they hit Scene his 1074 00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:27.119 music and then he gets the monstrous reaction and the 1075 00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.960 trumpets and the horns they start playing and out comes 1076 00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.960 John Cena from the entrance way and he's just taking 1077 00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:37.400 it all in. He's getting, of course, the monster pop 1078 00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.679 that you would expect, and he's looking at Stew the cameraman. 1079 00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:44.280 He takes the camera from Stew and he kind of, 1080 00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:46.679 you know, pans around with the camera for a little 1081 00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:49.360 bit and gives it back to Stu and he's like, 1082 00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:51.960 all right, here we go. You're ready for one last run. 1083 00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:55.360 As a very narrow aisleway too, it wasn't a lot 1084 00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:58.159 of room to maneuver. I kind of like it actually 1085 00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:00.159 when they bring it in a little bit more. That's 1086 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.880 the way it used to be. Fans can reach out, 1087 00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:05.280 they could touch the people. Maybe these days that's a 1088 00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.800 bad idea. But anyway, he goes running down to the 1089 00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:12.920 ring and the fans were cheering so loudly and for 1090 00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:16.840 so long. They actually looped his music twice because what 1091 00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:19.079 happened was he got into the ring and he's posing, 1092 00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:21.960 and then he sees a bunch of people sitting in 1093 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:27.760 the front row. So he goes outside and he's either 1094 00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:33.039 shaking hands or hugging Tris Stratis Eve Torres. I saw 1095 00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.760 fucking Haku is there, Fucking mang is in the crowd. 1096 00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:42.760 Kevin Owens was there, Sammy Zain was there. They weren't 1097 00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.800 sitting next to each other. But Owens, by the way, 1098 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:48.679 is going to be one of the coaches on the 1099 00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:52.519 new season of LFG. Apparently Kevin Owens and Natalia have 1100 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:57.960 replaced I think they've replaced Undertaker and Michelle McCool. You know, 1101 00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:02.159 you know Undertaker co hosts a podcast. It's well the 1102 01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:05.960 Michelle McCool Podcast starring Mark Halloway. So they have that 1103 01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.360 gig going. But apparently they're not going to be on 1104 01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:12.039 LFG anymore. So who else was in the front row? 1105 01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:15.280 Booker t was there, Nick conn was there, so just 1106 01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:17.760 a bunch of p o. Elias was there. I guess 1107 01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:22.280 now he's Elijah in TNA. Yes, I don't forget Elias. 1108 01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:24.599 I know, I know Sina worked with him at Wrestlemannia 1109 01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.840 thirty five. They didn't do a match, they did a segment. 1110 01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:29.559 I was there, I know, I remember it. He came 1111 01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:33.119 out as a doctor of thagonomics. So yes, Elias was 1112 01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:38.280 there as well. So Lillian Garcia was able to get 1113 01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:41.119 the privilege here of doing the final ring introduction here 1114 01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:46.039 for John Cena, she introduces Gunther, everybody booze. She goes 1115 01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:51.360 through the whole announcement here for John Cena, the final announcement, 1116 01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:57.000 and then it was time for the final match and 1117 01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:00.719 John Cena's final match begins with a collar elbow tie 1118 01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:05.280 up into a stalemate. Gunther had asshole chance that were 1119 01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:09.360 directed at him, followed by fuck you Gunther chance multiple 1120 01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:12.039 times throughout this match, which were censored by Peacock, So 1121 01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:16.119 that kind of sucked. And then the chops began. Now 1122 01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.119 he's getting you tapped out chance, and I'm like, you 1123 01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:23.920 tapped out chance? Mega. They still talking about WrestleMania, and 1124 01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:26.239 then Michael Cole says, oh, and get you tapped out 1125 01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:29.800 chance for tapping out to jay Usso at WrestleMania. I go, man, 1126 01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:33.599 this guy's never gonna live this down. Is he tapping 1127 01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:37.000 out to jay Usso? Is going to haunt this man 1128 01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:42.920 until the day that he retires. So Gunther hit a 1129 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:46.000 hard Irish whip into the corner, and at this point 1130 01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:49.119 he's just toying with Sina, He's basically having his way 1131 01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:53.000 with him. Sina, though, catches a chot that Gunther throws 1132 01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:55.400 at him and he starts his comeback. We got the 1133 01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:58.239 shoulder tackle, we got a second one. He drops gun 1134 01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:00.559 There here comes the you can't see me hits the 1135 01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:03.920 five knuckle shuffle. I'm like, man, we're going straight to 1136 01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.920 final jeopardy. Here we're not wasting any time. So here 1137 01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:11.880 comes the attitude adjustment. Gunher easily slips out and he 1138 01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:15.320 counters into a German suplex and off the ropes with 1139 01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:19.440 a hard clothes line takes down Sina. So now he 1140 01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:22.119 locks in the sleeper holes. Sina, though, quickly counters out 1141 01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:26.280 of it into the STFU and he's got it applied 1142 01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:28.320 in the center of the ring. Gun Through, though is 1143 01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:31.719 inching closer to the ropes. Sina goes to drag him 1144 01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:34.280 back to the center. Gun Ther though kicks him away 1145 01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:36.159 and then he gets up and he hits a shotgun 1146 01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:39.880 drop kick and Gunther drops him then with a power bomb. 1147 01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:44.760 So he tells the referee Chad Patten, ask him if 1148 01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:48.159 he gives up, So then we get more fuck you 1149 01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:52.559 Gunther chance, he drops Sena with another vicious clothes line, 1150 01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:54.400 and again he goes over to the referee. He goes 1151 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:59.519 ask him if he gives up, and then another clothes line, 1152 01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:02.719 ask him if he gives up? And I go when 1153 01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:05.480 did this turn into an I quit match? What are 1154 01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.559 we doing here? After every close line, he's asking the 1155 01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:11.760 referee to ask Sena if he gives up? What you know, 1156 01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:13.599 the only thing that would have been worse than what 1157 01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:15.239 they did here at the end of this match is 1158 01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:18.360 actually having John Cena go ahead and give up on 1159 01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:20.800 one of these clothes lines. That would have been that 1160 01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.920 would have been incredible. John Cen is like, you know what, 1161 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:26.920 fuck this, I don't need this shit anymore. I'm the peacemaker, 1162 01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.440 damn it. I give up and just roll out of 1163 01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:32.039 the ring and just get in his car and drive off. 1164 01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:35.039 That's the only finish that would have been worse than 1165 01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:36.519 the one they did here at the end of this show. 1166 01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:39.880 But this is where it started to get repetitive, because 1167 01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:42.119 he got up another clothes line. He got up another 1168 01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.039 clothes line. They were like five or six of them here, 1169 01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:48.840 So then there was another clothes line, and he says, 1170 01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:53.320 ask him, so now we got chance of super Sena. 1171 01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:58.039 Sena ducks another closed line attempt, hits back to back 1172 01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:01.880 shoulder tackles and again and he drops Gunther and here 1173 01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:05.280 we go again. You can't see me five knuckle shuffle. 1174 01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:08.719 We're already repeating spots that happened only five minutes earlier 1175 01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:11.119 here in this match. So we go through the whole 1176 01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:14.880 sequence all over again and this time the attitude adjustment 1177 01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:18.519 connects and he covers for the wind, but Gunther kicks 1178 01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:22.719 at it tudo, So now Sena is looking for another 1179 01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:26.559 attitude adjustment. Gun Thro though, slips out and he delivers 1180 01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:28.800 a hard shot right to the back of the neck. 1181 01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:32.039 And now he's got Sena down on the mat in 1182 01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:34.599 the sleeper hole, and he's got the body scissors applied. 1183 01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:37.199 Oh this is not good. This is not good. He's 1184 01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:39.719 got the body scissors. Sina, though, gets out of it. 1185 01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:43.199 He gets his own sleeper replied and down on the mat. 1186 01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:45.559 He's got the body scissors, just like jay Uso did 1187 01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:49.320 to him at WrestleMania. But Gunther he's got those long legs, 1188 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:51.519 so he's able to get a rope break out of it. 1189 01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:56.840 Gunther rolls out to the floor and Sina follows him out, 1190 01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:59.000 but he eats a chop and then he takes a 1191 01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:01.719 back suplex on the the apron. Gunther just picks him 1192 01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:04.960 up and dumps him. On the apron, Gunther sends him 1193 01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:07.920 into the ring steps right he goes careening into the steps, 1194 01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:11.119 So now Gunther rolls back into the ring. He exits 1195 01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:12.800 on the opposite side of the ring over on the 1196 01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:17.199 announcer side, and he grabs those steps and he drags 1197 01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:22.280 them over next to the announced desk. By this point, 1198 01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:25.840 Sena has basically kind of crawled his way over, so 1199 01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:31.519 now he's on that same side, and Gunther climbs up 1200 01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:33.320 on top of the ring steps. He's looking out through 1201 01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:36.880 the crowd. He's basically like up yours, so he climbs 1202 01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:39.480 back down the stairs. He drags Sena over to the steps, 1203 01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:44.639 and he clears off the announced desk. So we're gonna 1204 01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:48.239 get one last announced table bump for John Cena here 1205 01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:52.239 before he rides off into the sunset. Gunther is setting 1206 01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:55.280 up like he's gonna power bomb him from the ring 1207 01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:58.719 steps through the desk. He never even really gets him 1208 01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:01.559 in position though for the power before Sena hoists him 1209 01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:05.000 up onto his shoulders and John Sena delivers an attitude 1210 01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:09.239 adjustment to Gunther through the announced desk and the desk collapses. 1211 01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:13.199 So that was the big table bump here in this match. 1212 01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:15.800 Sina puts Gunther back in the ring after a bit, 1213 01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:20.239 he covers him. Gunther kicks out, so then Sena heads 1214 01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:23.880 up top. He hits the top rope leg drop. I 1215 01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:26.599 guess that would be considered the vintage Sena right, as 1216 01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.719 Michael Cole would say, right, old school Sena. So he 1217 01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:33.119 hits the leg slice right across the neck, he covers, 1218 01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:37.599 Gunther kicks out, So that got him chance of you 1219 01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:40.519 still got it? So Sena looks out to the crowd 1220 01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:42.559 and he asks the crowd, do you have one more 1221 01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:46.760 left in you? One more? You can't see me. He goes, 1222 01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.559 this is gonna be the last one. So the crowd 1223 01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:53.840 wait for it, and they wait for it, and they 1224 01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:55.840 do it one last time. He does that, you can't 1225 01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:59.679 see me. Sena hits the ropes though, but guntherer. When 1226 01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:02.159 he hits the ropes, gun Thro springs right back up 1227 01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:04.679 to his feet and he drops him with a big boot, 1228 01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:08.400 picks him right up, hits a power bomb with the stack. 1229 01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:14.119 Gotta get the stack. Scena kicks out, so Gunther heads 1230 01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:17.800 up top. He's going for that splash. Sena, though, cuts 1231 01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:20.320 him off with an uppercut. Seena climbs to the middle 1232 01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:22.960 rope and he gets gun through on his shoulders and 1233 01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:25.639 he looks out of the crowd and he smirks, and 1234 01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:28.840 he hits an avalanche attitude adjustment or, as Michael Cole said, 1235 01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:33.000 avalanche Fu drops gun through all the way down. He covers, 1236 01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:37.280 Gunther kicks out, and the people can't believe it. So 1237 01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:40.639 now both men get back up and we get the 1238 01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:44.840 ya boo exchange here between them. Sena with an uppercut, 1239 01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:48.000 drops gun through to his knees, but he fires right back. 1240 01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:51.199 Sena gets him up for another AA gun through though 1241 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:54.599 counters out into a power bomb, and now gun Thro 1242 01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:57.320 is headed back up and he hits the big splash. 1243 01:07:57.360 --> 01:07:59.400 And I will say there's one thing I have criticized 1244 01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:03.519 recently as far as Gunther goes. I'm a big Gunther fan, 1245 01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:06.480 but his splashes more often than not look like shit, 1246 01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:09.920 like his knees end up hitting the mat before his 1247 01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:13.000 body does. This one was maybe the best splash I've 1248 01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:15.360 seen him hit, like he just came crashing down on 1249 01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:17.800 Sena with all of his body weight. So he hits 1250 01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:21.399 the splash. Scena kicks out, so the crowd is trying 1251 01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:25.479 to will Scena back up with super Sena chance, which 1252 01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:28.039 would have been unheard of, by the way, fifteen years 1253 01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:31.479 Can you imagine these fucking fans fifteen years ago, Like 1254 01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:34.399 when Sena was burying the Nexus, you imagine the fans 1255 01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:38.520 chanting for Supersena back then, like you just wouldn't have 1256 01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:42.079 heard it. But now they're just they're willing Supersena. They 1257 01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:45.000 want to wake up Supersena and see him one more time. 1258 01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:49.199 So Gunther again gets the sleeper, replied Sena. Though he's 1259 01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:53.520 still standing. He's standing, but he's fading now he's down 1260 01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:57.199 to one knee, but he powers back up. He breaks 1261 01:08:57.239 --> 01:08:59.880 the hold, or he's in the process of breaking the hole, 1262 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:04.159 but nope, Gunher gets it back applied, and now he's 1263 01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:07.279 got seen it down on the mat, but Seeing is 1264 01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:09.640 back to his knees. Now now he's back to his feet. 1265 01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:13.600 He powers out, but again Gunher gets the sleeper, replied. 1266 01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:18.239 Back down to the mat they go, but nope, Seen 1267 01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:20.560 is back up to his feet again, and so now 1268 01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:24.399 Gunher jumps on Seeing his back. So he's got all 1269 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.560 of his weight now on his back. Sena drives Gunther 1270 01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:30.239 backwards though into the corner to break the hold, but 1271 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:34.039 then Gunher reapplies it again. Back down to the mat 1272 01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:38.600 they go. Things are looking very bleak, so he fights 1273 01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:42.119 back to his feet again again. Seena falls backwards into 1274 01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:45.039 the corner to break the hold and then he scoops 1275 01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:48.520 up gun Through on his shoulders. He delivers another attitude adjustment. 1276 01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:53.920 Gunher kicks out, and not only does Gunther kick out, 1277 01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:58.000 but almost immediately after he kicks out, he sits up 1278 01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:01.439 and grabs scene from behind and puts him back in 1279 01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:06.079 the sleeper hold. You have nineteen thousand fans in this 1280 01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:10.039 building who were chanting, don't give up, don't give up. 1281 01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:16.479 At John Cena, Sena looks like he's out, and at 1282 01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:20.359 this point, I'm thinking, okay, they're gonna go with the 1283 01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:24.720 finish where he passed out, right, which I think Goldberg 1284 01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:27.079 tapped out. Did Goldberg tap out to him or Goldberg win? 1285 01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:30.079 I think Goldberg tapped out to him. But I'm thinking, okay, 1286 01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:32.920 it's basically you know this all over again. He's gonna 1287 01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:35.159 pass out and they're gonna give the win to Gunther, 1288 01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:38.880 and I'm kind of, you know, resigned to it. The 1289 01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:42.800 referee picks up Seena's arm and his arm drops once, 1290 01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:46.239 and then instead of calling for the bell, he goes 1291 01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:49.319 to pick up his arm again. Now that's the way 1292 01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:52.399 it used to be done all the time, like back 1293 01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:54.319 in the Hogan era, right, you pick the arm up 1294 01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:56.159 once it drops. He picked the arm up twice, and 1295 01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:58.319 then the third time, Oh this the arm is still up. 1296 01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:01.199 And again I feel like ever since we kind of 1297 01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:04.800 went into this reality era, and ever since like tapouts 1298 01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:06.720 became a thing and you had more of like an 1299 01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:10.479 mma influence on pro wrestling. You don't do that right 1300 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:12.880 because in a fight, if somebody went out first of all, 1301 01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:14.960 you probably wouldn't be picking their fucking arm up anyway, 1302 01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:16.960 but you would pick up their arm. If their arm 1303 01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:19.439 went down, that's it. They're out cold, right, you gotta 1304 01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:22.800 call it off. They don't really do it this way anymore. 1305 01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:24.359 So I thought it was a little strange that they 1306 01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:27.279 kind of reverted back to the old school way of 1307 01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:32.079 doing this. So the arm drops once, referee says one, 1308 01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:35.000 we got another one to come, he picks up, seen 1309 01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:40.199 his arm again. Seen his arm goes limp. He picks 1310 01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:44.239 up the arm for a third time, and John Cena 1311 01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:48.279 gives the like the okay sign. Right, hopefully that's all 1312 01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:53.319 it is. But now Gunther starts raining the anvil elbows down, 1313 01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:57.600 elbow after elbow after elbow, you know, down onto sina 1314 01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:01.680 and again he goes right back to the sleeper hole. 1315 01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:07.399 And at this point John Cena is not going out. 1316 01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:12.239 John Cena is sitting there and he's got a look 1317 01:12:12.279 --> 01:12:16.840 on his face like, you know what, I can't wait 1318 01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:19.720 to get back to my hotel room tonight. I'm gonna 1319 01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:22.399 have myself a nice hamburger when I get back to 1320 01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:25.760 my room. Boy, I can't wait. Now he's looking out 1321 01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:28.199 to the crowd at somebody again, maybe it was his wife, 1322 01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:32.279 I don't know, or just his friends and family, and 1323 01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:37.680 he looks at peace with himself. He smiles and he 1324 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:41.159 goes like this, and he just like the most half 1325 01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:46.479 hearted tap out that you will ever see. After all 1326 01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:51.279 the years that John Cena said, never give up, never 1327 01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:54.800 give up, right, and he never tapped out to anybody, 1328 01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:58.840 the day finally comes that this man taps out, and 1329 01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:01.960 this is what he does with a smile on his face. 1330 01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:06.520 After telling people to never give up. It looked like 1331 01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:10.840 he had no interest in even fighting it anymore. He 1332 01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:14.319 was just like, yeah, okay, I'm done. And how do 1333 01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.600 you expect people to not be underwhelmed by that finish? 1334 01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:21.039 You actually think that that's an acceptable finish to this 1335 01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:26.840 man's fucking career, Like, I'm blown away by people. Don't 1336 01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:29.680 understand why other people would be upset not even necessarily 1337 01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:31.880 about the fact that scene A lost in his final match, 1338 01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.479 which you would almost expect, but the way in which 1339 01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:38.039 he lost, how can anybody be okay with that? How 1340 01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:39.760 can anybody look at that and go, man, that was 1341 01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:42.840 the perfect finish? May I want a storybook ending finish 1342 01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:47.399 for this guy? That was a completely horrid way for 1343 01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:51.039 this match to end. That was a terrible finish. But 1344 01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:53.159 they got the moment they wanted because you know what, 1345 01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:56.039 they cut to the crowd and everybody had a shocked 1346 01:13:56.079 --> 01:13:58.840 expression on their face, and that's why they did it. 1347 01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:04.439 They wanted their Undertaker moment from wrestle Mania thirty, and 1348 01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:06.880 that's what they got. This was the closest that we 1349 01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:10.319 have ever gotten, okay since wrestle Mania thirty to any 1350 01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:13.399 kind of crawd reaction like this. I'm trying to think, 1351 01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:17.279 like even SummerSlam that year when Brock squashed Sena, it 1352 01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:20.800 was kind of similar, but not really not quite on 1353 01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:24.199 that level. Right, People were shocked by Sena being destroyed, 1354 01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:27.119 thoroughly destroyed by Brock Lesnar and at the time it 1355 01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:29.079 was like such a novel thing, like, holy shit, I 1356 01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:31.039 can't believe what we just saw. Like that was actually 1357 01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:33.359 a great match, and then they tried to replicate it 1358 01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:35.600 this year, and of course it was shit. But as 1359 01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:37.840 far as the finish here, people were stunned. They were 1360 01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:40.159 wide eyed. They cut the kids, little kids in the 1361 01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:42.439 crowd like tears welling up in their eyes. They can't 1362 01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:44.760 believe what they've just seen. It's like fucking you know, 1363 01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:51.640 Doomsday killing Batman or Superman not Batman. I got, I 1364 01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:54.479 got my characters mixed up, but you know what I mean. 1365 01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:59.439 I mean that's basically what this was here. And Gunther 1366 01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:02.840 is like, oh he tapped out, I went and they 1367 01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:04.760 raised his hand and he was out of the ring, 1368 01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:08.880 you know, very quickly after that. But immediately the crowd 1369 01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:15.600 they go from utter shock to just discussed and anger 1370 01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:20.800 very quickly. And when Sina sits up and the camera 1371 01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:24.640 zoomed in on his face, you hear the chance of 1372 01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:29.199 bullshit rain out throughout the Capitol One arena, and Sina 1373 01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:31.359 had a look on his face like come on, you know, 1374 01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:33.800 like give me a break, like you weren't expecting chance 1375 01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:36.720 like this. It's the first thing he should have expected. 1376 01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:41.079 What else did you expect? The chance of bullshit rained 1377 01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:46.239 down upon john sena rained down upon the ring, gun 1378 01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:49.279 through I think by this point was already gone, and 1379 01:15:50.119 --> 01:15:53.640 Sena is standing in the ring. He's thanking everyone. He's saying, 1380 01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:58.159 that's all I got, That's all I got. Here comes 1381 01:15:58.399 --> 01:16:04.000 Triple H and Sewn Michaels and Stephanie McMahon and Cody 1382 01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:07.600 Rhodes and cm Punk and the Undertaker and Bruce Pritchard 1383 01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:10.359 and all the producers and the rest of the roster. 1384 01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:13.439 And as soon as people saw Triple H coming down 1385 01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:17.239 to the ring, it all became about him, because now 1386 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:20.000 we have fuck Triple H. You can hear somebody in 1387 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:22.800 the crab at least one guy fucked Triple H. And 1388 01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:25.479 then of course you fucked up. You fucked up just 1389 01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:30.399 raining down upon these men, and Triple H, of course 1390 01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:32.079 has a big smile on his face because I'm sure 1391 01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:35.960 he finds this all very hilarious. Cody and Punk get 1392 01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:40.479 in the ring and they present their championship belts ceremoniously 1393 01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:43.279 to John Cena. For him to have one on each 1394 01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:46.279 shoulder scene is like trying to refuse that. They're like, no, no, no, no no. 1395 01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:49.760 So they give him their championships and they retreat to 1396 01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:51.880 the corner and we have a shot of John Seene 1397 01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:54.720 to the World Heavyweight Championship on one shoulder the WWE 1398 01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.119 Championship on the other, you know, and the fans are 1399 01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:00.119 respectfully cheering for Seea, but they're still not happy and 1400 01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:03.560 they are smarting over the decision to end this match 1401 01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:06.520 the way that they did. So Scene is playing to 1402 01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:08.720 the crowd. He goes, I'm waiting for it right because 1403 01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:10.439 Triple H is in one of the corners, He's on 1404 01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:14.359 the apron right, and Scene is playing to the crowd 1405 01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:16.600 of one corner with the belts and they cheer, and 1406 01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:19.000 then he plays to the other corner and they cheer, 1407 01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:23.079 and then he turns around and he sees Triple H 1408 01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:26.600 in the other corner, and he walks over and as 1409 01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:28.680 soon as the crowd realizes he's going over to Triple 1410 01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:32.279 H's corner, the booze rained down upon them, and Triple 1411 01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:34.720 H got a big smile on his face. He finds 1412 01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:39.159 this so fucking funny, and they're just booing the shit 1413 01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:43.399 out of him, deservedly so, because he had the opportunity 1414 01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:45.960 to put together a finish here, one of two finishes, 1415 01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:50.520 One of two finishes. John Cena wins after a just 1416 01:17:51.079 --> 01:17:54.279 you know, the battle of a lifetime here where Gunther 1417 01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:57.119 beat this man within an inch of his fucking life, 1418 01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:00.399 but he pulls it out in the end like Rocky 1419 01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:02.760 in one of those dramatic fights in the movies. Right, 1420 01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:04.920 and John Cena gets to go out. He may be 1421 01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:06.920 beaten and battered, but he gets to go out on top. 1422 01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:09.560 He gets to go out a winner, right after losing 1423 01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:11.960 many matches. It's not like he went undefeated on this tour. 1424 01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:14.680 It's not like Tony Kahan keeping sting undefeated his entire career. 1425 01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:18.840 In aaw He won some, he lost some, but he 1426 01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:20.399 gets to go out a winner, and you give the 1427 01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:22.760 fans that happy moment as he rides off into the 1428 01:18:22.760 --> 01:18:25.119 sunset because he did the one thing that he promised 1429 01:18:25.119 --> 01:18:28.640 you that he would never do. He never gave up. Right, 1430 01:18:29.079 --> 01:18:32.279 you could have done that, perfect world, he would have 1431 01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:36.399 done that. I understand it, though I understand Gunther winning. Look, 1432 01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:39.239 I'm a Gunther fan, and I understand that tomorrow morning, 1433 01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:42.439 John Cena is going to be somewhere else and Gunther 1434 01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:45.239 is going to still be working in WWE, and guntherro 1435 01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:47.359 is probably going to be wrestling brock Lesner. If I 1436 01:18:47.399 --> 01:18:50.239 had to venture a guest at WrestleMania. So now you 1437 01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:51.840 can do the battle of the two men who beat 1438 01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:54.159 John Cena on his way out right, I guess that'll 1439 01:18:54.199 --> 01:18:57.319 be the story. So I don't have an issue with 1440 01:18:57.319 --> 01:19:01.079 that so much, but if you do it, you gotta 1441 01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:04.279 have John Cena stay true to his convictions. He is 1442 01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:07.640 trying everything to get out of this sleeperhold and gum 1443 01:19:07.640 --> 01:19:10.600 Through is relentless. He keeps reapplying it. He's got the 1444 01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:12.760 body scissors. They're in the middle of the ring. There's 1445 01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:16.239 nowhere for John Cena to go. He's tried everything with 1446 01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:19.840 this man and it does not work. And the fans 1447 01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:22.039 are saying, please, don't give up, don't give up, don't 1448 01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:25.079 give up. And you know when John Cena, when the 1449 01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:27.319 arm was dropping and he flashed the OK sign and 1450 01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:30.279 everybody cheered. You know what, that would have been an 1451 01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:33.520 appropriate finish if you would have flashed that sign and 1452 01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:36.640 then he would have went limp and the referee would 1453 01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:38.439 have called the match off and the fans would have 1454 01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:40.600 been upset. But I don't think they would have been 1455 01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:44.279 as upset as they were. That's the thing. It's the 1456 01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:46.479 way in which they did the finish that I think 1457 01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:51.600 just did such a disservice to Sena and that character 1458 01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:55.079 and everything that it represented for so many years. And 1459 01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:56.880 by the way, this goes for John Cena, if it 1460 01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:00.399 was his idea, you know, maybe it was Triple H's idea, 1461 01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:04.279 Maybe it was John Cena's idea. So good for him. 1462 01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:05.920 If it was, he got to go out the way 1463 01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:08.680 that he wanted. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it 1464 01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:11.039 was still the right way to go out. That was 1465 01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:12.840 the right way maybe in his mind for him to 1466 01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:14.640 go out, but there's a lot of people out there 1467 01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:16.079 who were going to look at that and go, man, 1468 01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:19.520 that is not the way that John Cena should have 1469 01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:22.760 gone out. John Cena should go out fighting until the 1470 01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:25.920 very end. And that little weak tap out and that 1471 01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:28.560 resigned smile on his face where it's like, you know what, 1472 01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:31.600 I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go like this, this 1473 01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:33.079 is this is how I'm gonna end it. I'll just 1474 01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:36.319 give it to the guy. I'm not really struggling. It 1475 01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:37.840 almost looked like he could get out of the hole 1476 01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:39.680 at any moment if he wanted to. But it's like, yeah, 1477 01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:44.399 you know what, I'm done, I'm done here. I don't 1478 01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:47.920 know maybe I'm crazy, maybe I'm out of my mind, 1479 01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:50.560 but I just thought that finish was lame, ash shit. 1480 01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:55.319 I really did. But then Triple H is like, look, 1481 01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:59.640 look up, it's not Batman, but there's a screen, right, 1482 01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:02.000 not even like the titantron or anything, one of the 1483 01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:05.479 arena screens and he points, seeing his attention up to 1484 01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:06.960 the screen. This is where I thought maybe they were 1485 01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:09.680 gonna have some sort of like Hall of Fame video announcement, 1486 01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:14.319 and instead it was just it was a very well produced, 1487 01:21:14.359 --> 01:21:19.680 very nice video that was recapping seen his career. It 1488 01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:23.640 had comments from his mother, you know, his parents, his contemporaries, 1489 01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:28.800 and you had John Cena in picture and picture while 1490 01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:32.800 he was watching the video, and his expression never really changed, 1491 01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:34.880 but he was you could tell he was very emotional. 1492 01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:38.600 Sena is usually an android robot, Okay, he doesn't really 1493 01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:42.720 show emotion. In this case, his eyes were getting all 1494 01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:46.159 glassy and he was actually, you know, like your career 1495 01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:48.000 is overdude, Like it's okay for you to show a 1496 01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:50.279 little bit of actually human emotion here, and he was. 1497 01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:53.680 So it was. It was a very nice video. They 1498 01:21:53.720 --> 01:21:56.960 actually included it was an old interview, but they actually 1499 01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:00.079 included a clip of Vince McMahon making comments of a 1500 01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:03.159 John Cena, So I guess he made the show after all. 1501 01:22:04.720 --> 01:22:06.720 So when it was over, Sena, I thought, we're gonna 1502 01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:09.760 get a speech, even even if just a few comments. 1503 01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:12.520 Even Goldberg got to make some comments before they fucking 1504 01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:16.319 cut him off. On NBC, everyone was like, Oh, I'll 1505 01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:18.239 bet John cenic gas all the time in the world 1506 01:22:18.239 --> 01:22:22.399 for a retirement speech. Didn't give Goldberg anything. He didn't 1507 01:22:22.439 --> 01:22:25.720 even make a speech. He looked like he couldn't wait 1508 01:22:25.720 --> 01:22:30.520 to get out of there. But before he left, he 1509 01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:34.159 went ahead and he stepped out of his sneakers, so 1510 01:22:34.279 --> 01:22:37.000 we saw the you can't see me socks that he 1511 01:22:37.039 --> 01:22:38.920 was wearing, which I'm sure are on sale right now 1512 01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:43.960 at wweshop dot com. Stepped out of his sneakers, he 1513 01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:47.239 laid his wristbands on the mat next to them. He 1514 01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:50.399 left the ring. He didn't interact with anybody. He just 1515 01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:53.279 walked right past all the wrestlers and everybody around the ring, 1516 01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:56.560 and he went right down the aisle. He stopped when 1517 01:22:56.560 --> 01:23:00.359 he got to the entranceway and he looks and they 1518 01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:02.560 have a camera now that's above the entrance way, so 1519 01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:05.359 he's just looking up into the camera and then he's 1520 01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:08.840 looking around, you know, the entire building. He turns around, 1521 01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:14.720 he takes a bow, one final bow, and he salutes 1522 01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:18.399 and he says, it's been a pleasure serving you all 1523 01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:22.159 these years. Thank you. And at that point he turns 1524 01:23:22.199 --> 01:23:26.199 around and he leaves, and that was it. They faded 1525 01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:29.239 out and that was the end of the presentation and 1526 01:23:29.319 --> 01:23:33.880 so ends the career of John Cena. The fans were 1527 01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:38.199 clearly not very happy about how things went down there 1528 01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:41.359 at the end. The match itself, they had a good match. 1529 01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:44.880 It was not the best John Cena match of this year. 1530 01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:47.560 It was not the best Gunther match of this year. 1531 01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:50.039 There was you know, you had the dramatic near falls 1532 01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:53.239 that you would have expected. The match in many spots 1533 01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:57.960 was more repetitive than I would have liked. But I 1534 01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:01.199 thought they basically had the match. I figured they were 1535 01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:04.800 going to have, you know, more or less. So it'll 1536 01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:07.760 be a matter of taste against some people. They just 1537 01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:10.319 don't like Gunther matches and they don't like him As 1538 01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:13.199 John Cena's final opponent. I feel like he was the 1539 01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:16.199 perfect final opponent for him. I didn't have an issue 1540 01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:19.880 with that. So the finish doesn't mar the rest of 1541 01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:22.520 the match. I'm not saying the entire thing was terrible. 1542 01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:25.760 The whole thing was garbage. It wasn't. It was a 1543 01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:28.199 good match that, in my opinion, was just it had 1544 01:24:28.239 --> 01:24:31.039 the wrong finish and you only get one shot at 1545 01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:33.279 it because it's the guy's retirement match. You don't get 1546 01:24:33.279 --> 01:24:35.079 a redo on this. Like I take him at his 1547 01:24:35.119 --> 01:24:37.159 word when he says that I'm done, I'm never coming 1548 01:24:37.199 --> 01:24:39.199 back to the ring. I cannot go back on my word. 1549 01:24:40.159 --> 01:24:42.800 You had one shot at this, just like you had 1550 01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:47.079 one shot at a retirement tour Triple H had. Remember 1551 01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:50.359 WWE Unreal at the beginning of the year. Season two 1552 01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:53.840 is coming, by the way next month. What episode was it? 1553 01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:57.159 Episode four? Whichever one was about the scene of heel Turn. 1554 01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:00.840 Pretty sure it was episode four. I think episode three 1555 01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:04.800 was like Chelsea Green and the Women, But when they 1556 01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:08.079 covered Johnsena's heel Turn, there was a clip from one 1557 01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:10.800 of the shows of Sena and and maybe it was 1558 01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:14.920 Elimination Chamber seen it in Triple H ringside hours before 1559 01:25:14.960 --> 01:25:17.399 the show, and I'm paraphrasing here, but it was something 1560 01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:20.720 like boy and maybe it was about the retirement tour itself, 1561 01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:24.760 So maybe it was earlier than the chamber. But boy, 1562 01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:27.079 we'd really have to fuck this up to mess up 1563 01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:30.399 this retirement tour, right, That's what Triple H said to SCENEA, 1564 01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:33.600 and Scene is like well yeah, or Triple H was like, well, 1565 01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:38.960 you know, hey, it could happen. It could happen. Oh 1566 01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:42.079 it kind of happened. Not completely, but you know, it 1567 01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:46.640 kind of happened. There were ebbs and flows to this 1568 01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:49.720 retirement tour. For every great moment, like the one we 1569 01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:53.039 had with Punkin Sena in the elimination chamber, for the 1570 01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:55.520 heel turn itself, which in a vacuum. If you just 1571 01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:57.720 look at the heel turn in Toronto on its own, 1572 01:25:58.359 --> 01:26:00.680 it's one of the greatest heel turns in the history 1573 01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:05.720 of wrestling. When you take context into account and what followed, 1574 01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:09.239 it is one of the worst heel turns in the 1575 01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:11.600 history of wrestling. I want you to think about that. 1576 01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:14.159 I want you to think about how that's possible. How 1577 01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:17.279 can you have one of the best heel turns in 1578 01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:21.039 wrestling history also be one of the worst heel turns 1579 01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:26.479 in wrestling history. Oh it happened. That's the John Cena 1580 01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:30.600 heel turn in a nutshell. But for all the good 1581 01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:33.000 stuff we got. We had one of the worst WrestleMania 1582 01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:36.560 main events or main event endings you'll ever see. We 1583 01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:39.159 had an ill conceived heel turn for which there was 1584 01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:42.279 no real long term plan for it. It was about 1585 01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:45.239 the moments. It was about going viral, It was about 1586 01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:47.600 creating a buzz. It was about selling more tickets so 1587 01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:50.479 we could advertise the rock for the Elimination Chamber. These 1588 01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:53.479 are the things that happened. These are the decisions that 1589 01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:57.520 were made along the way that really marred parts of 1590 01:26:57.600 --> 01:27:00.920 John Cena's retirement tour. When this things should have been 1591 01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:04.840 mapped out from day one. This is the most important 1592 01:27:04.840 --> 01:27:07.520 person in this company, maybe one of the most important 1593 01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:10.159 people in the history of this company. We're gonna take 1594 01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:12.840 great pains to make sure that we storyboard the fucking 1595 01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:15.439 shit out of this. So we map out every single 1596 01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:17.680 fucking thing that we are gonna do with this guy 1597 01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:20.479 so that we could give him the best possible sense 1598 01:27:20.600 --> 01:27:23.520 send off that we possibly can. That should have been 1599 01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:27.520 the idea behind it. Not saying that there aren't times 1600 01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:29.720 where it's okay to pivot and go this way instead 1601 01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:32.359 of that way, but when you're just constantly pivoting along 1602 01:27:32.399 --> 01:27:35.520 the way. That's what happens. That's what you end up 1603 01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:40.199 with once they turn seeing a back babyface. Right. We 1604 01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:41.960 got a lot of good moments out of that. We 1605 01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:44.159 got some good matches, We got some good moments, so 1606 01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:47.600 it wasn't all bad. But I was really hoping coming 1607 01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:50.920 into this that it's about how you start and how 1608 01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:53.760 you end. If you start hot and you finish hot, 1609 01:27:54.359 --> 01:27:56.760 you know what, I think people will be more forgiving. 1610 01:27:57.800 --> 01:28:00.960 And it started off pretty good. Although people will be 1611 01:28:01.039 --> 01:28:03.239 upset that Jay Usso won the Royal Rumble in that 1612 01:28:03.319 --> 01:28:05.640 John Cena, but honestly, that was one of the better 1613 01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:08.439 rumbles they've done in many years. So they started off 1614 01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:12.560 well enough, and I was hoping that they would close strong, 1615 01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:16.439 and they really didn't. I think they made the wrong 1616 01:28:16.479 --> 01:28:20.159 decision tonight. And so sure, Gunther is gonna now come 1617 01:28:20.199 --> 01:28:21.840 out and gloat about the fact that he's the first 1618 01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:24.000 man in twenty years. Of course they'll say the first 1619 01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:26.920 man ever, which is not true. But the first man 1620 01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:29.119 in twenty years to make John Cena tap out and 1621 01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:32.079 to make John Cena give up, and that's gonna be 1622 01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:35.439 his new gimmick now. But honestly, does it really like 1623 01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:38.479 it had Gunther not done that right, had he won 1624 01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:41.840 in any other way, does it really make a difference. 1625 01:28:42.279 --> 01:28:43.800 He still gets to go out there and say that 1626 01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:46.800 I'm the man who retired John Cena, you know what 1627 01:28:46.840 --> 01:28:48.880 I mean? Like you still could have given the fans 1628 01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:53.159 a better ending and kept Gunther looking strong. You could 1629 01:28:53.159 --> 01:28:55.720 have had your cake and eat it too. You could 1630 01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:59.279 have had it both ways, and they just decided, no, no, 1631 01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:02.039 we're not going to do that. We're gonna do it 1632 01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:07.079 our way. We're gonna say fuck you, and you're gonna 1633 01:29:07.159 --> 01:29:12.800 like it because that's the way it's done. So it 1634 01:29:12.840 --> 01:29:15.079 made for a shitty ending to the show. Everything just 1635 01:29:15.079 --> 01:29:18.479 felt off after that finish. The way Sena was acting 1636 01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:22.960 in the ring, the crowd reaction, everything was off. Everything 1637 01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:26.319 was off. You could really enjoy the moment, and again 1638 01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:29.720 it was very curious not having him or him making 1639 01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:33.560 the decision himself. I guess not to address the audience, 1640 01:29:34.359 --> 01:29:36.279 Like if I had paid a lot of money to 1641 01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:39.159 go to the show, I would be very upset over 1642 01:29:39.199 --> 01:29:43.079 that finish, right, finish being the way the show ended. 1643 01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:45.840 To get that finish, and then not even have Seena 1644 01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:49.319 address the crowd and just leave and walk out was 1645 01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:53.640 very underwhelming, very underwhelming, But of course it doesn't take 1646 01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:59.199 away from his overall body of work and all of 1647 01:29:59.239 --> 01:30:02.079 the great things that he did in his career. And 1648 01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:03.720 I know a lot of the people watching this right 1649 01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:06.760 now probably became wrestling fans during the era that John 1650 01:30:06.760 --> 01:30:09.520 Cena was on top, or you grew up with John Cena. 1651 01:30:09.560 --> 01:30:12.399 He was your guy, and so it's a big deal 1652 01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:14.399 to you the fact that he's no longer going to 1653 01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:16.840 be an active wrestler. And you know, maybe you were 1654 01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:19.640 crying your little eyes out tonight or whatever, and that's fine, 1655 01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:22.199 you know, that's fine. I'm sure tonight was a very 1656 01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:26.920 emotional thing for a lot of fans. But I still 1657 01:30:26.920 --> 01:30:31.199 say that the finish, the finish left a lot to 1658 01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:35.880 be desired. Let's just say that. Let's take a look 1659 01:30:35.920 --> 01:30:40.000 at what the poll results say. What did you think 1660 01:30:40.039 --> 01:30:43.600 of Saturday Night's main event and John Cena's final match. 1661 01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:48.439 Fifty nine percent thumbs up for tonight's show, forty one 1662 01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:54.319 percent thumbs down, So very split, more positive than negative, 1663 01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:58.960 but a very split poll result so far. And we 1664 01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:06.039 are approaching three thousand votes in the poll. Again. You know, 1665 01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:10.079 sometimes you just got to do what's right for the 1666 01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:14.520 crowd for the moment, and they dropped the ball tonight, 1667 01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:20.119 they really did. They dropped the ball with it. I'll 1668 01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:32.640 debate anybody on that, oh man. But hey, Gunther now 1669 01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:34.640 gets to go around to be the destroyer, right. He's 1670 01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:37.319 gonna end a whole bunch of careers. There's probably two 1671 01:31:37.439 --> 01:31:39.039 or three different people who are going to have their 1672 01:31:39.039 --> 01:31:41.600 retirement matches in twenty twenty six. He may end up 1673 01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:44.800 beating all of them, which makes it awfully predictable, doesn't 1674 01:31:44.840 --> 01:31:49.039 it He ends up wrestling aj Styles or Chris Jericho. 1675 01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:55.079 We kind of already know how it's going to go. Uh, Glizzie, Bob, 1676 01:31:55.399 --> 01:31:59.479 We'll start with Gizzie says. Drew's character has become such 1677 01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:02.800 a cry baby loser that I don't even want to 1678 01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:06.199 see him win the belt anymore. Sad that it got 1679 01:32:06.199 --> 01:32:09.760 to this point. Hey, you know what, Drew McIntyre is 1680 01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:12.439 another example of this La Knight. I mean, we'll see 1681 01:32:12.439 --> 01:32:14.920 what happens, but La Knight may end up being another example. 1682 01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:16.680 It's like, oh no, no, we got big plans for 1683 01:32:16.720 --> 01:32:18.600 all these guys. You just gotta let it play out. 1684 01:32:19.239 --> 01:32:24.159 You just gotta let it play out. Man, This is 1685 01:32:24.199 --> 01:32:26.600 gonna be the greatest payoff in wrestling history, and we 1686 01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:29.720 get all these great payoffs for La Knight and Drew 1687 01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:33.359 McIntyre and this guy and that guy. Man, I can't wait, 1688 01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:42.920 Irenzo says Cody, Why so serious? Roads, Bass Beers just 1689 01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:49.039 says boo See they were chanting boo uns, boo uns, 1690 01:32:49.159 --> 01:32:50.800 That's what they were chanting. At the end of the show. 1691 01:32:52.239 --> 01:32:56.119 Venim Catetzi says, enjoy the ride. Shut your mouth and 1692 01:32:56.279 --> 01:32:58.119 enjoy the ride that the rock is taking you on. 1693 01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:06.319 Wink the Cosmic Grandma says why, bro, just why. I 1694 01:33:06.399 --> 01:33:10.319 don't know, Man, I don't know, But you're gonna have 1695 01:33:10.319 --> 01:33:15.199 people defending it until their dying breath. They'll call it cinema. 1696 01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:17.199 That's the word they love to use for this stuff. 1697 01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:21.720 It's cinema. The Winston slip. So, what's your favorite kind 1698 01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:27.000 of soup? Chicken noodle? By far? Bass Beer says triple 1699 01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:38.119 h You fed up? Holiday one ninety seven says hey Solo. 1700 01:33:38.920 --> 01:33:41.960 Gunther gave Sena a good retirement match until that ending 1701 01:33:42.920 --> 01:33:45.560 way to tarnish seen his legacy by making him tap 1702 01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:48.279 out and give up. If it was seen his idea, 1703 01:33:48.319 --> 01:33:55.800 then I don't know what he was thinking, I don't know, man, 1704 01:33:56.880 --> 01:34:01.199 I just I don't know. I think he's just mentally 1705 01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:03.359 checked out anyway, he knows he's done, and he just 1706 01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:06.359 he doesn't care. You want me to tap out to 1707 01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:10.479 this guy, Fine, I'll tap out to this guy. I'll 1708 01:34:10.479 --> 01:34:19.920 do whatever you want me to do. Don't worry everybody though, 1709 01:34:19.920 --> 01:34:23.840 it's cinema. It's cinema. Nick Ky says, you know, call 1710 01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:26.000 me dramatic or whatever you want. I need to take 1711 01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:30.880 a long break from WWA. Between his bads, Seena's retirement 1712 01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:34.000 run has been and now having Gunher do this, it 1713 01:34:34.079 --> 01:34:39.359 has soured me on Gunther. Well, I mean, there's no 1714 01:34:39.399 --> 01:34:41.760 reason to be sour on Gunther. He didn't do anything wrong. 1715 01:34:43.079 --> 01:34:45.239 If anything, I mean the fact that they fucking did 1716 01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:47.359 that finish they did tonight. I sure as fuck hope 1717 01:34:47.359 --> 01:34:51.039 that they have Gunther in the strongest possible position they 1718 01:34:51.039 --> 01:34:55.520 can put him in going forward. I mean, he better 1719 01:34:55.520 --> 01:34:58.600 be the real final boss. Can't squander this. It's like 1720 01:34:58.640 --> 01:35:01.520 when Brock broke the streak in twent fourteen. A lot 1721 01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:03.800 of people disagreed with that decision, but it's like, well, 1722 01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:06.960 you had Brock break the streak, you better make sure 1723 01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:09.119 that you keep him as strong as you possibly can. 1724 01:35:09.279 --> 01:35:11.520 Because he's the guy that broke the Undertaker streak. You 1725 01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:18.039 better not squander that. Alex says this was awful. Says 1726 01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:22.000 everything Triple H touches turns into a hot pile of garbage. 1727 01:35:22.359 --> 01:35:24.319 You had a nice run as booker last year, but 1728 01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:32.000 enough is enough. Tub Thumper with a Canadian ten says, 1729 01:35:32.039 --> 01:35:34.439 I know this makes me a bad person, but on 1730 01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:37.760 such a historic night, did we really need to see 1731 01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:43.319 that disgusting old crone Vince McMahon on our screens. It 1732 01:35:43.399 --> 01:35:47.600 was brief. I mean, it wasn't a big deal this. 1733 01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:49.720 They didn't roll his corpse out there in front of 1734 01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:53.399 the crowd. Psycho jet Black. As soon as I saw 1735 01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:57.159 the Miz, I knew this would annoy Solo Monster. I 1736 01:35:57.199 --> 01:36:00.319 actually didn't mind that segment. I did not find that 1737 01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:03.000 segment because it was relatively brief. It got Joe Hendri 1738 01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:05.920 a cameo. People had fun with it, so I was 1739 01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:09.600 okay with it. Says but seriously, thank you John Cena 1740 01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:12.000 for all the good and the bad. We will never 1741 01:36:12.079 --> 01:36:18.680 forget you. Thank you. Psycho. Alexander says, Gunhar needed to leave. 1742 01:36:18.720 --> 01:36:22.720 Sina need to leave Sina's body lifeless in the ring 1743 01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:26.800 for the finish. Not that anti climactic finish we just got, 1744 01:36:27.039 --> 01:36:36.560 but still all hail gunhar, thank you. Alexander Psycho says, 1745 01:36:36.600 --> 01:36:41.560 just realized. Slo Monster kind of looks like Miss. I 1746 01:36:41.600 --> 01:36:44.279 don't know how to feel about this, although miss got 1747 01:36:44.319 --> 01:36:46.880 himself Maurice, so I don't know. Maybe this hope for 1748 01:36:46.920 --> 01:36:50.199 me yet the Winston slip Slo Monster is way more 1749 01:36:50.239 --> 01:37:00.479 handsome than cube Head Miss cube Head, Miss does he 1750 01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:06.079 have a cube head? I don't know about that. Johnny 1751 01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:09.600 Bernie says, John Cena retires and at last Bruce Blitz 1752 01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:12.800 can finally be at peace with his life. Oh my god, 1753 01:37:14.399 --> 01:37:16.159 there's that name I haven't heard in the years. Is 1754 01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:22.760 he still around? I honestly don't know. I always know 1755 01:37:22.800 --> 01:37:27.159 he was John Cena's biggest fan. I'm sure he's doing 1756 01:37:27.199 --> 01:37:30.920 some celebrating tonight wherever he is. Holiday one ninety seven 1757 01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:34.680 says this contends as the most botched retirement run. Sina 1758 01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:37.520 had some good matches, but there was little build in 1759 01:37:37.600 --> 01:37:40.079 half of those matches. The Scena heel turn was ruined, 1760 01:37:40.119 --> 01:37:43.680 and now the ending of his final match he deserved 1761 01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:50.600 a lot better. Yeah, I mean, there were mistakes made 1762 01:37:50.800 --> 01:37:58.079 during this run. I think that's safe to say. We 1763 01:37:58.159 --> 01:38:01.039 got Sanders with a nine ninety eight nine, says Soul. 1764 01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:05.039 Getting a roll up win after her finish bothered me. Ultimately, 1765 01:38:05.079 --> 01:38:07.239 it was fine, but it's just a micro example of 1766 01:38:07.359 --> 01:38:11.560 WWE not wanting to truly beat anyone. Soul beating Bailey 1767 01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:15.520 right after would have been fine. Yeah, I mean we 1768 01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:17.239 do get a lot of roll ups in this company. 1769 01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:20.560 I'm just happy we got the right result in that match. 1770 01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:24.439 Soul Ruka winning was the right idea, It's the right outcome. 1771 01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:30.319 Glizzie Bob says Triple H did not understand the assignment tonight. 1772 01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:32.960 Any sane man could have seen that finish wasn't going 1773 01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:36.479 to get over well with that crowd. The booze were deserved. Oh, 1774 01:38:36.520 --> 01:38:38.840 he deserved every single bit of it. Yes, I agree, one, 1775 01:38:41.880 --> 01:38:44.640 he deserved every bit of that reaction that he got. 1776 01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:48.439 But it's sad that John Cena was the one who retired. 1777 01:38:49.479 --> 01:38:52.279 So Sena was out there and they weren't booing Sena, 1778 01:38:52.359 --> 01:38:55.479 but the boos were raining down nonetheless. And so when 1779 01:38:55.520 --> 01:38:59.079 your final match ends with chance of bullshit, you know 1780 01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:07.079 you fucked up. Blue Blart says, are you laundering money 1781 01:39:08.760 --> 01:39:11.439 for jo Joseph is a big fan of the show. 1782 01:39:13.640 --> 01:39:16.359 I'm on Blue. I see him supporting more than you. 1783 01:39:16.600 --> 01:39:20.039 I'm not gonna put down Joseph. Joseph's a good dude. 1784 01:39:22.760 --> 01:39:27.800 Sent the message yesterday saying many blessings for the weekend 1785 01:39:27.840 --> 01:39:30.000 to come. I hope wherever he is he's having a 1786 01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:33.199 great night. Hopefully he's not too dejected after the way 1787 01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:41.399 that Johnsena went out tonight. Curtis Tally says Legendary Solomon. 1788 01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:45.359 I think I made my point very clear. I think 1789 01:39:45.399 --> 01:39:51.319 I made my thoughts on this pretty clear for everybody tonight. 1790 01:39:52.880 --> 01:39:57.439 Venom Caitetsu with a twenty five created Johnny Carson on 1791 01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:03.439 wrestle Mania two thousand says any suggestions for his finisher? Also, 1792 01:40:03.520 --> 01:40:09.520 congrats on two back to back Friday the thirteenth, February 1793 01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:18.840 and March extra Jason Celebrations for twenty twenty six. You 1794 01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:23.800 made Johnny Carson in wrestle Mania two thousand. Yeah, I 1795 01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:27.479 think you should give him the soul Snatcher as his finish. 1796 01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:31.199 I want to see Johnny Carson pull that off. The 1797 01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:34.039 Sheriff of Patty's Sina went out like a legend. Should 1798 01:40:34.039 --> 01:40:37.000 I hope future greats take note. Go out like Sena, 1799 01:40:37.239 --> 01:40:40.720 not like Flair. Love the channel. Can't wait for the 1800 01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:45.560 RSPW drop. Yep, it'll be ready in time for the 1801 01:40:46.359 --> 01:40:50.600 holidays coming up. I'm trying to add some Sena posts. Actually, 1802 01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:53.640 I went out to go find some John Cena related posts, 1803 01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:55.800 and I will tell you that the ones that I 1804 01:40:55.880 --> 01:40:59.560 found are not very complimentary. This is from the early 1805 01:40:59.640 --> 01:41:02.960 days Sena. So that'll be in the next installment of 1806 01:41:03.079 --> 01:41:05.920 RSPW Rewind, which should be up in the next couple 1807 01:41:05.960 --> 01:41:12.680 of weeks. For all of you Duff's VIDs from the 1808 01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:15.880 nine ninety nine, if fans were truly mad and smart, 1809 01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:19.119 the crowd would have chanted you can't book to triple 1810 01:41:19.319 --> 01:41:25.359 H thank you, Sena. Or they would have gone with 1811 01:41:25.399 --> 01:41:31.439 everyone's favorite insult. They would have chanted bald fraud. I 1812 01:41:31.479 --> 01:41:34.439 saw him. He was on the pre show. They had 1813 01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:36.760 him on the pre show set with the fans behind him, 1814 01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:40.079 and I don't know, I don't know what this was about, 1815 01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:42.680 but there was somebody on their phone. They held up 1816 01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:45.520 their phone and like in big letters, it just said water, 1817 01:41:47.520 --> 01:41:50.000 just said water. And then everybody started channing h two 1818 01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:54.239 oh h two Oh. I mean, you would think they 1819 01:41:54.239 --> 01:41:56.039 were in the desert and they were dying out there. 1820 01:41:56.079 --> 01:42:01.119 I don't know why they were chanting for water. Animal. 1821 01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:03.960 The worst part of this is that this is all 1822 01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:06.199 anyone will be talking about when it comes to John 1823 01:42:06.239 --> 01:42:14.359 Cena's final match. Bingo, You're one hundred percent right, and 1824 01:42:14.439 --> 01:42:20.079 that's a shame. H William Lopez. This is sad how 1825 01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:23.119 Seen is going to be remembered. Seen his real retirement 1826 01:42:23.159 --> 01:42:25.960 match was against aj Styles, and I will stand by that. 1827 01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:30.319 I'm okay with that. If we all remember the Crown 1828 01:42:30.399 --> 01:42:33.239 Jewel match as a Seen as true retirement match, I 1829 01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:41.399 think I think that that would be perfectly fine. Hashtag 1830 01:42:41.479 --> 01:42:46.439 bald fraud. Oh, Triple Ah's water spit routine? Is that okay? 1831 01:42:46.479 --> 01:42:49.720 Is that why they were chanting water? I'll bet they're 1832 01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:54.399 chanting something else at him right now. Randal the Sandal 1833 01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:57.000 Vandal of the nine ninety nine Hall of Fame headliner 1834 01:42:57.079 --> 01:43:00.960 for next year? What are we thinking? I mean, I 1835 01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:03.880 would have been thinking John Cena. I guess it comes 1836 01:43:03.880 --> 01:43:08.840 down to a schedule, though I don't think Batista has 1837 01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:15.560 still gotten his actual induction yet either. Stuffs Vins who 1838 01:43:15.600 --> 01:43:20.359 knew Brock watched NXT Ricky Saints in the background on TV. 1839 01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:30.000 Lakers Pats disappointed that Sena did not lay down the jorts. Also, well, 1840 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:33.520 I don't think we needed to see that. You can 1841 01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:36.880 take them off in the back. Max says, technically speaking, 1842 01:43:36.920 --> 01:43:39.479 what was the strongest and weakest parts have seen his career. 1843 01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:42.640 I'm gonna get into a lot of that tomorrow. There's 1844 01:43:42.680 --> 01:43:45.560 gonna be a big scene of retrospective on the podcast tomorrow. 1845 01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:48.119 I'm gonna have a lot more to say, not just 1846 01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:54.439 about tonight, but just his career overall, his legacy. I'm 1847 01:43:54.439 --> 01:43:58.840 gonna go through every match on this retirement tour, and 1848 01:43:58.880 --> 01:44:02.119 I'm gonna give you what I believe to be his 1849 01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:07.640 fifteen best matches. I have ranked. I have ranked the 1850 01:44:07.720 --> 01:44:11.119 fifteen best matches of John Cena's career. It's been a 1851 01:44:11.159 --> 01:44:14.079 while since I've done a countdown. You're gonna get one 1852 01:44:14.119 --> 01:44:17.119 on the podcast tomorrow. So you're gonna get all things. 1853 01:44:17.199 --> 01:44:21.479 John Cena defined Real says, as many times as we 1854 01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:23.920 wanted Triple Hs to stop playing it safe, he picks 1855 01:44:23.920 --> 01:44:31.399 Seena's retirement to do it. It's true. Yeah, I did 1856 01:44:31.439 --> 01:44:36.640 notice that who mentioned that in the chat? GQ yeah. 1857 01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:39.920 When Sina took the camera away from Stu the beginning 1858 01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:44.279 of his entrance and Sena put Stu on camera, they 1859 01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:47.159 cut away, so we barely got a shot of Stu. 1860 01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:49.760 They cut away from Stu. I don't know why they 1861 01:44:49.760 --> 01:44:54.199 did that, Alexander says. Sina by tapping out basically said 1862 01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:57.359 f them kids, Yeah, which is what he said during 1863 01:44:57.359 --> 01:45:01.479 the heel turn. I thought they had realized their mistake, 1864 01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:06.359 but evidently not. I guess. Triple H was all upset 1865 01:45:06.439 --> 01:45:08.600 and pissy over the fact that people poop pooed his 1866 01:45:08.600 --> 01:45:11.119 big heel turns, so he had one last fuck you 1867 01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:16.399 to everybody in the end this journey called life. Seena 1868 01:45:16.479 --> 01:45:21.359 smiled right before tapping out. He chose that you mean 1869 01:45:21.399 --> 01:45:24.199 he shows the finish. I wouldn't be surprised if he did. 1870 01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:27.560 Doesn't mean it doesn't mean it was a good finish. 1871 01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:30.279 If he got the finish that he wanted, you know what, 1872 01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:34.840 I'm happy for you, bro, I'm happy for you. But 1873 01:45:36.199 --> 01:45:37.760 I thought it was a bad finish. I thought it 1874 01:45:37.800 --> 01:45:44.039 was a bad call. Holliday says, I wouldn't be surprised 1875 01:45:44.039 --> 01:45:46.119 if some of the fans who bought seen his never 1876 01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:49.039 give up merch decide to get rid of them. Why 1877 01:45:49.119 --> 01:45:51.000 hold on to it with this ending, It's like those 1878 01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:54.680 fans threw their money down the drain. Yeah, I mean, 1879 01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:56.760 think of all the shirts he sold over the years. 1880 01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:05.039 They're gonna start burning John's shirts. It's like when a 1881 01:46:05.159 --> 01:46:08.840 player you know gets traded to another team, you have 1882 01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:11.920 their jersey and they burn their jersey like you're dead 1883 01:46:11.960 --> 01:46:17.880 to me. Javier says, as a fan since two thousand 1884 01:46:17.880 --> 01:46:23.800 and three, thanks for the memories. Sina z Ray with 1885 01:46:23.880 --> 01:46:26.159 the ten says, Honestly, if it ended with John Cena 1886 01:46:26.199 --> 01:46:29.039 passing out with the two arm drops, it would have 1887 01:46:29.079 --> 01:46:31.840 been so much better than him tapping out. I mean, 1888 01:46:31.840 --> 01:46:34.119 I prefer he didn't lose, but even if he does 1889 01:46:34.439 --> 01:46:45.800 do it correctly, we got Rebo m Blader loved the match, 1890 01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:50.319 did not like the finish. Overall, good show, though, I 1891 01:46:50.319 --> 01:46:56.119 think that about sums it up Ragnarok. They did the 1892 01:46:56.159 --> 01:47:00.239 fans and Sena a disservice by sticking to a numbnumber 1893 01:47:00.319 --> 01:47:04.119 of appearances instead of a final date. He couldn't properly 1894 01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:06.600 promote a few of his matches. Yeah, he wasn't around 1895 01:47:06.720 --> 01:47:10.680 to do anything with aj on TV before their match. 1896 01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:19.159 Same thing with Gunther, there was at least one more. Yeah, 1897 01:47:19.159 --> 01:47:21.640 it's just I mean, that's a whole lot, that's a 1898 01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:26.560 whole other thing. Moore says, this is real. Fans are 1899 01:47:26.680 --> 01:47:31.159 chanting ae W at the press or are they I'll 1900 01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:33.520 have to I'll have to check that out after. Did 1901 01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:35.800 they send Triple H out there with the crab behind him? 1902 01:47:35.800 --> 01:47:38.920 Because that that would have been ballsy of them if 1903 01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:41.640 they did that. I need to know what they were 1904 01:47:41.720 --> 01:47:44.000 chanting behind Triple H. If they sent him out there 1905 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:52.239 Aaron Rugerio with a nineteen ninety nine man that was deflating. 1906 01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:54.880 I understand losing on the way out, but this just 1907 01:47:54.960 --> 01:47:57.039 wasn't the night for that. Imagine the postmatch if he 1908 01:47:57.119 --> 01:48:00.640 actually won, should have been a sting revolution esque moment. 1909 01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:06.520 Triple H deserved the backlash one hundred percent. Yeah, Yeah, 1910 01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:11.399 he did. Devin from NJ. They already did so much 1911 01:48:11.479 --> 01:48:13.840 damage to see his character this year. Having him give 1912 01:48:13.960 --> 01:48:16.000 up in his final match was just the cherry on 1913 01:48:16.119 --> 01:48:24.600 top of this shit Sunday scummed up. Well, hey, guys, 1914 01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:27.039 I just realized something. You know, we we could have 1915 01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:29.279 had it worse. We could have had jay Usso when 1916 01:48:29.359 --> 01:48:33.239 the John Cena last time is now tournament and we 1917 01:48:33.279 --> 01:48:36.720 could have had jay usso due to John Cena what 1918 01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:39.319 he did to gun through a WrestleMania and tap him 1919 01:48:39.319 --> 01:48:42.319 out in the middle of the ring so could always 1920 01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:46.800 be worse. LJ. Junior Sena should have smiled, held the 1921 01:48:46.840 --> 01:48:49.800 three fingers up and faded out there. It is man like. 1922 01:48:50.199 --> 01:48:52.399 That's like that to me would have been a more 1923 01:48:52.439 --> 01:48:55.680 acceptable finish and a more appropriate one that would play 1924 01:48:55.720 --> 01:48:58.880 off of the mantra that he lived by for the 1925 01:48:58.960 --> 01:49:03.600 last twenty plus years, says, yes he loses, but he 1926 01:49:03.640 --> 01:49:08.479 never gives up. Ever, giving up was the entire purpose. Yeah, 1927 01:49:08.479 --> 01:49:14.319 and he betrayed that purpose. Project Graham Tony Kahan showed 1928 01:49:14.399 --> 01:49:16.359 fans the right way to send off a legend with 1929 01:49:16.479 --> 01:49:19.720 Sting's last match. Sina should have gotten the same treatment. 1930 01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:28.800 Kind of shameful, really, Boris with a ten dollars My 1931 01:49:28.840 --> 01:49:31.760 boys were so disappointed. First the dumb heel turn and 1932 01:49:31.800 --> 01:49:35.159 now this trash of an ending triple Ah deserved all 1933 01:49:35.199 --> 01:49:37.800 of the chance he got coming out. Fans definitely deserved 1934 01:49:37.840 --> 01:49:45.159 better still, Thank you, Sina Desivid's what did the ancient 1935 01:49:45.279 --> 01:49:47.760 Roman time travelers say when he got to the year 1936 01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:59.319 three thousand, Mmm, Psycho Jet Black. Do you do the 1937 01:49:59.319 --> 01:50:03.800 Obafemi dance in private? I do it every day when 1938 01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:06.920 I generally speaking, when I walk into like a supermarket, 1939 01:50:07.119 --> 01:50:09.439 or if I walk into like a Walgreens or something, 1940 01:50:11.399 --> 01:50:18.039 I do the Obafemi dance. Alexander says, Oba Femi gives 1941 01:50:18.079 --> 01:50:23.000 me Ahmed Johnson energy. I would be greatly offended if 1942 01:50:23.039 --> 01:50:26.199 I was compared to Ahmed Johnson. I certainly hope he 1943 01:50:26.239 --> 01:50:31.119 has a better career than Ahmed johnsonhet Opa Femi has 1944 01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:40.159 more talent in his pinky finger than Ahmed Johnsonhett Sean Kavanaugh. 1945 01:50:40.319 --> 01:50:43.279 Isn't it time Gunther got a better finish? His sleeper 1946 01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:47.359 is anti climactic and just kills the place. I think 1947 01:50:47.399 --> 01:50:49.479 you could take a move like the sleeper hold and 1948 01:50:49.600 --> 01:50:51.800 just and get it over, and I think he's done that. Actually, 1949 01:50:51.840 --> 01:50:55.199 I mean the sleeper hold was one of those classic 1950 01:50:55.840 --> 01:50:59.640 finishing maneuvers. I can't say it was just the heel finish. 1951 01:50:59.680 --> 01:51:02.399 I mean even Brutus Beefcake use it as a finish. 1952 01:51:02.479 --> 01:51:05.600 And when Beefcake would put the sleeper hold on, people 1953 01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:08.680 went nuts for it. You know, as a babyface. I 1954 01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:11.000 don't have an issue with using a sleeperhole as a finish. 1955 01:51:11.199 --> 01:51:13.039 I think that they have done a good job of 1956 01:51:14.199 --> 01:51:17.600 getting that over as a hold for him. I see 1957 01:51:17.600 --> 01:51:19.399 what you're saying. It's not like a flashy move or 1958 01:51:19.399 --> 01:51:22.119 anything like that. I also think it's smart because as 1959 01:51:22.159 --> 01:51:24.359 you age and you get older and Gun, there is 1960 01:51:24.399 --> 01:51:27.279 no you know, young man by wrestling standards anymore. I mean, 1961 01:51:27.279 --> 01:51:30.359 he's getting up there, he's getting close to forty. I 1962 01:51:30.359 --> 01:51:32.039 think it's smart to have a move that you can 1963 01:51:32.079 --> 01:51:34.840 apply on anybody at any time. You know, Gun, there 1964 01:51:34.880 --> 01:51:37.600 could be wrestling at fifty years old. He could be 1965 01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:39.960 in there with somebody twice his size. He could put 1966 01:51:39.960 --> 01:51:43.199 them in a sleeperhole. Even Hogan used to say, like, man, 1967 01:51:43.199 --> 01:51:44.600 I wish I would have just gone with like a 1968 01:51:44.640 --> 01:51:47.840 fucking clothes line as my finish. You know, would have 1969 01:51:47.880 --> 01:51:51.479 saved my back from all those back surgeries. I think that, 1970 01:51:51.479 --> 01:51:52.920 you know, you have a lot of younger guys in 1971 01:51:52.960 --> 01:51:56.119 wrestling right now, and I understand the desire to do 1972 01:51:56.159 --> 01:51:59.640 something really flashy and cool and some big dive or whatever. 1973 01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:04.479 But man, as you get older and you evolve, they 1974 01:52:04.479 --> 01:52:07.920 should start thinking about like finishing maneuvers that they can 1975 01:52:07.960 --> 01:52:11.520 put on anybody at any time, because if they want 1976 01:52:11.520 --> 01:52:14.560 to wrestle for another fifteen twenty years, you want to 1977 01:52:14.600 --> 01:52:18.479 be using something that's easy to do. This week's episode 1978 01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:22.800 is sponsored by Express VPN. 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There's a lot of 2019 01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:40.039 great wrestling video packages, you know, the Austin Rock one, 2020 01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:44.560 my way, the Monster one for Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania thirty, 2021 01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:48.279 Running Up That Hill by Placebo for Shawn Michaels and 2022 01:54:48.359 --> 01:54:51.600 Undertaker WrestleMania twenty six. I don't know that I have 2023 01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:55.880 a favorite John Cena one, though, I mean there was 2024 01:54:55.920 --> 01:54:59.399 a I think actually the one they use for Sena 2025 01:54:59.479 --> 01:55:01.680 Triple h Randy Orton to Wrestle Media at twenty four. 2026 01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:05.199 I think that one was pretty good. But man, beyond that, 2027 01:55:05.239 --> 01:55:07.000 I'm kind of drawing a blank. I don't think I 2028 01:55:07.039 --> 01:55:11.720 have a favorite scene of video package. Uh, Glizzie Bob. 2029 01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:14.720 The pop Kevin Owens got when they showed him in 2030 01:55:14.760 --> 01:55:17.000 the audience hugging Sena was awesome. Do you think they 2031 01:55:17.039 --> 01:55:18.960 would have had one more match if Ko did not 2032 01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:24.640 get hurt? Absolutely absolutely, we got John Cena and Sammy's ay. 2033 01:55:24.720 --> 01:55:27.279 We definitely would have had John Cena and Kevin Owens 2034 01:55:27.520 --> 01:55:36.720 and it would have been great. The horrorrist. We may 2035 01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:38.880 never know whose idea that finish was. If it was 2036 01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:42.840 one hundred percent Sena's idea, would that change your opinion 2037 01:55:42.920 --> 01:55:48.920 at all? It would not change my opinion in the least, 2038 01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:56.319 not one iota. Nick says, you know, this is what 2039 01:55:56.359 --> 01:55:58.560 I mean when I say I can't fucking stand Gunther 2040 01:55:58.680 --> 01:56:01.680 and his fans. The guy is the longest intercontinental champion, 2041 01:56:01.720 --> 01:56:04.840 two time world champion, King of the ring, but he 2042 01:56:04.920 --> 01:56:09.760 still needs more to make him. Yeah, it's like John 2043 01:56:09.800 --> 01:56:12.279 Cena talked about Brock Lesnar when he was on Chris 2044 01:56:12.359 --> 01:56:15.479 Van Vlid's podcast last week and he was asked about 2045 01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:18.199 the Wrestle Paluza match right or he brought it up 2046 01:56:18.840 --> 01:56:21.359 and he was like, well, the idea was that we 2047 01:56:21.439 --> 01:56:26.239 got to make Brock, and I'm already on my way out, 2048 01:56:26.359 --> 01:56:29.159 so like, how can we use me? We gotta make Brock. 2049 01:56:29.239 --> 01:56:33.800 I'm like, make Brock. The fuck are you talking about? 2050 01:56:35.840 --> 01:56:40.600 I didn't know we needed to be made. Make Brock 2051 01:56:40.960 --> 01:56:43.239 one of the funniest fucking things I've heard all year. 2052 01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:51.560 Dry Chicken says, I'm pretty sure the Rock is smiling 2053 01:56:51.680 --> 01:56:54.359 right now after Triple H came out. Oh, I'm sure, 2054 01:56:54.520 --> 01:56:57.079 Like deep down. I'm sure he kinda he got a 2055 01:56:57.159 --> 01:56:59.399 kick out of that. I'm sure he enjoyed that. Somewhere 2056 01:56:59.399 --> 01:57:02.560 deep within is a part of him that was laughing 2057 01:57:04.359 --> 01:57:08.319 that guy. Matt. Now, wwe can finally sell to Saudi Arabia. 2058 01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:14.079 Now that's about five or six years away. Give it time, 2059 01:57:14.119 --> 01:57:19.520 it'll happen, but not anytime soon. George Maser with the 2060 01:57:19.560 --> 01:57:22.600 four ninety nine, what's going on? George cool necklace? Oh 2061 01:57:22.640 --> 01:57:29.439 thank you? Sina smiling during the TapouT makes me think 2062 01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:34.840 it may have been his decision. Again, it's it's entirely 2063 01:57:34.920 --> 01:57:42.000 possible that Sina came to them with that idea, or 2064 01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:44.319 at the very least obviously he was okay with it, 2065 01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:48.279 and maybe that was his little, his little spin on it. 2066 01:57:48.960 --> 01:57:52.159 But to me, it did not come off very well. 2067 01:57:52.399 --> 01:57:54.560 Maybe the idea that he had in mind for it, 2068 01:57:54.560 --> 01:57:56.800 if it was his idea, maybe it sounded good in 2069 01:57:56.840 --> 01:57:59.800 his head, But in execution, I just thought it came 2070 01:57:59.880 --> 01:58:07.880 up very poorly. And I don't remember offhand, I don't 2071 01:58:07.880 --> 01:58:11.239 remember exactly where I got it from. But if I remember, 2072 01:58:11.279 --> 01:58:15.880 I will I'll post up something about it or leave 2073 01:58:15.880 --> 01:58:18.800 a comment if I if I can find where I 2074 01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:25.560 got it from I'll post a response that guy Nick 2075 01:58:25.680 --> 01:58:33.479 Rubio Triple H for worst booker of the year. I 2076 01:58:33.800 --> 01:58:39.479 Jackson Man, they did this for WWE Unreal. Oh yeah yeah, 2077 01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:42.640 I guess maybe we'll find out right if this is 2078 01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:46.960 on Unreal season three, maybe we'll get our answer then, 2079 01:58:52.479 --> 01:58:55.880 Glizzie Bob says, reminder that Triple H is the worst 2080 01:58:56.079 --> 01:58:59.319 booker ever. Now he is not the worst booker ever. 2081 01:59:00.439 --> 01:59:08.239 I get carried away here. Duffs Vid says, what does 2082 01:59:08.279 --> 01:59:14.319 a barber serve in the winter? Cold? Cuts? Pretty good? 2083 01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:17.720 That was pretty good. Evan Rodgers says, who cares about 2084 01:59:17.760 --> 01:59:21.880 the WWE beyond this? No draws, no stars, no respect 2085 01:59:22.079 --> 01:59:30.600 for the stories. Toya ain't nice? Says, how would a 2086 01:59:30.680 --> 01:59:36.960 happy ending be applied? Well, I mean, you know, I 2087 01:59:37.000 --> 01:59:41.119 haven't figured that part out yet, but there's a way. 2088 01:59:41.600 --> 01:59:43.479 It might not be very PG, but I mean there 2089 01:59:43.520 --> 01:59:48.199 is a way, Like how toyo Toya hasn't let this 2090 01:59:48.319 --> 01:59:52.840 idea go? What about this happy ending finish? Duffs Vid says, 2091 01:59:52.840 --> 01:59:55.239 what did Dad say when he got a universal remote? 2092 01:59:55.359 --> 02:00:05.880 This changes everything? It is that dad joke. Austin Bland 2093 02:00:05.960 --> 02:00:10.199 set not having Randy Orton present was a decision. I 2094 02:00:10.199 --> 02:00:12.800 think he might be over in Saudi. Wasn't he doing 2095 02:00:12.880 --> 02:00:17.720 press over in Saudi Arabia for the royal rembel. He's 2096 02:00:17.760 --> 02:00:20.439 really taking this vacation very seriously. We haven't seen him 2097 02:00:20.439 --> 02:00:28.960 in months. Willie Billy Glad, we got some Taz talk tonight. 2098 02:00:29.000 --> 02:00:31.920 He always cracked me up with that fake whoa. Whenever 2099 02:00:31.960 --> 02:00:34.720 someone's pyro went off, it was like muscle. It's like 2100 02:00:34.800 --> 02:00:42.439 muscle memory for him. I enjoyed Taz on SmackDown that 2101 02:00:42.479 --> 02:00:45.399 guy or even in the even when he was doing 2102 02:00:45.399 --> 02:00:50.279 commentary in TNA, that guy Matt says, I feel undertaker. 2103 02:00:50.359 --> 02:00:51.800 One day he is going to have a couple of 2104 02:00:51.840 --> 02:00:54.600 shots of Jack look at McCool and be like, you know, 2105 02:00:55.399 --> 02:00:59.840 you really helped screw up my reputation, and then the 2106 02:01:00.039 --> 02:01:04.279 fans will chant at him. Bring back Matt, Bring back Matt. 2107 02:01:06.359 --> 02:01:08.199 They just can't let that go. Every time you post 2108 02:01:08.199 --> 02:01:11.600 a new podcast, look at the comments, bring back Matt. Actually, 2109 02:01:12.039 --> 02:01:15.600 this superchat comes from that guy Matt is. I think 2110 02:01:15.640 --> 02:01:20.359 we just figured out who that guy Thatt is. I 2111 02:01:20.399 --> 02:01:22.479 think I just realized why that guy Matt just sent 2112 02:01:22.600 --> 02:01:28.000 that super chat in Matt is that you It's okay 2113 02:01:28.039 --> 02:01:31.439 your secret is safe with us. There's only twenty six 2114 02:01:31.520 --> 02:01:33.920 hundred people in here. You don't worry. Your secret is safe. 2115 02:01:34.119 --> 02:01:37.920 No one will know. I just looked at his name. 2116 02:01:37.960 --> 02:01:47.439 I'm like, wait a minute, hold on a second. Brian Besarah, 2117 02:01:47.560 --> 02:01:51.399 no message, just dropping a fifty dollars super chet. You 2118 02:01:51.399 --> 02:01:55.640 know what, it's not red, it's it's magenta. But you're 2119 02:01:55.760 --> 02:02:01.880 you're welcome into the bomb squad. Bryant and Mischie are 2120 02:02:01.920 --> 02:02:04.800 the members of our bomb squad here tonight. I love it. 2121 02:02:05.960 --> 02:02:10.680 Jdf VA, thank you very much, Jacob Chelsea with the 2122 02:02:10.760 --> 02:02:13.199 ten dollars. Postmatch was almost as bad as the finish. 2123 02:02:13.319 --> 02:02:17.640 Crowd was still in shocked silence when Gunther's hand was raised, 2124 02:02:17.680 --> 02:02:20.279 then outcomes Hunter Boot out of the building. Felt like 2125 02:02:20.319 --> 02:02:22.960 the heat was on management. Yeah, I mean the heat 2126 02:02:23.000 --> 02:02:26.359 was not on Cena and it wasn't even it wasn't 2127 02:02:26.359 --> 02:02:28.359 even so much on Gunther. It was on Triple H. 2128 02:02:28.399 --> 02:02:31.199 It was on the company. It was on the company 2129 02:02:31.279 --> 02:02:35.199 for you know, charging them in arm and a leg 2130 02:02:35.680 --> 02:02:38.520 for the right to come to this show and then 2131 02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:43.680 get pissed on at the very end. It's like, here, 2132 02:02:43.720 --> 02:02:46.119 we're gonna charge you one thousand dollars for your ticket 2133 02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:48.560 and then we're gonna take a fucking dump on your 2134 02:02:48.600 --> 02:02:56.239 head at the end. Eh. Thanks, I'd be pissed if 2135 02:02:56.279 --> 02:03:01.880 I was there, Rob Pyre, that was a Netflix WWE 2136 02:03:02.039 --> 02:03:06.600 unreal ending best for business pal, says Triple H. I 2137 02:03:06.640 --> 02:03:19.119 guess Keelsy keels the admiration from Greece. Please stay legendary Keelsy. 2138 02:03:19.159 --> 02:03:22.279 Thank you so Kelsey or Keelsy. I think it's klzy. Actually, 2139 02:03:22.319 --> 02:03:25.680 I think I just said it wrong. You know, Greece 2140 02:03:25.800 --> 02:03:27.560 is one of those places. It's on my list of 2141 02:03:28.760 --> 02:03:31.000 places I'd like to visit one day. I hear the 2142 02:03:31.000 --> 02:03:40.079 beaches over there are really nice and the women WANTOCMPO 2143 02:03:40.239 --> 02:03:44.960 is Seena the last true draw in WWE before TKO. 2144 02:03:52.239 --> 02:03:55.760 When did TKO officially? TKO didn't really take over until 2145 02:03:55.760 --> 02:03:59.119 the fall of twenty three, right that's when the deal closed. 2146 02:04:01.600 --> 02:04:06.520 I would say yes, Cod Cody was already pretty well 2147 02:04:06.640 --> 02:04:10.039 established by that point, Roman had already had the majority 2148 02:04:10.039 --> 02:04:13.439 of his run. So I think we still have yet 2149 02:04:13.439 --> 02:04:17.800 to have that one true like TKO era draw in 2150 02:04:17.880 --> 02:04:23.039 this company. Maybe that'll be bron Breaker. Maybe that could 2151 02:04:23.039 --> 02:04:25.720 be an Oba Femi one day, or Jacob Fatu or 2152 02:04:25.760 --> 02:04:33.520 someone like that the Uffman says, So Lesner destroyed Sena 2153 02:04:33.600 --> 02:04:38.560 at Russell Palooza because why exactly, Well, because we had to. 2154 02:04:39.439 --> 02:04:41.520 We had to put Lesner over, because we had to 2155 02:04:41.600 --> 02:04:44.239 keep him looking strong. We had to get him over 2156 02:04:44.560 --> 02:04:48.279 come on ofman pay attention. We got to get the 2157 02:04:48.279 --> 02:04:55.199 guy over. I mean, what's not to understand. He wasn't 2158 02:04:55.199 --> 02:05:03.640 strong enough. People had forgotten. Hey, adt ar, what's going on? Man? 2159 02:05:05.239 --> 02:05:10.520 Thank you for that. Five Neamo says Triple H is 2160 02:05:10.600 --> 02:05:13.159 not a good booker or not a great booker. He 2161 02:05:13.199 --> 02:05:16.720 books for the moments. He's got a very particular way 2162 02:05:16.720 --> 02:05:19.239 that he books. I wouldn't say it's great, but I 2163 02:05:19.279 --> 02:05:21.520 also wouldn't call him the worst booker of all time, 2164 02:05:21.640 --> 02:05:26.600 Like that's just hyperbole. We got holy shit wrestling, buy 2165 02:05:26.720 --> 02:05:30.720 or sell Seinfeld finale or Sina finale. Oh man, you 2166 02:05:30.880 --> 02:05:32.720 really put me on the spot here with this one. 2167 02:05:34.920 --> 02:05:37.560 They're really putting me on the spot here with this one. 2168 02:05:38.119 --> 02:05:42.159 I'm gonna go Seinfeld finale and buying on that, believe 2169 02:05:42.199 --> 02:05:45.600 it or not, that was much better than the Sena finale. 2170 02:05:47.199 --> 02:05:51.199 H Stephen j Neptune Man best seene a moment announcing 2171 02:05:51.239 --> 02:05:56.000 ben Laden's death. Well, we can now say that John 2172 02:05:56.079 --> 02:06:01.039 Cena's career with that finish tonight has been compromised to 2173 02:06:01.159 --> 02:06:08.640 a permanent end. Anderson Blitz says, and just like that, 2174 02:06:08.760 --> 02:06:11.600 a piece of my childhood came to an end. Hashtag 2175 02:06:11.840 --> 02:06:19.760 thank you, Sena, thank you Anderson, Evan Rodgers. They think 2176 02:06:19.800 --> 02:06:23.359 people are going to care about Saudi wrestling entertainment after 2177 02:06:23.399 --> 02:06:26.319 this crap, no respect for the character or the crowd. 2178 02:06:32.000 --> 02:06:34.720 Sina announced it like he took out Ben Lauden himself. 2179 02:06:36.000 --> 02:06:39.520 Maybe he did. Maybe he snuck in put a sealed 2180 02:06:39.520 --> 02:06:44.479 Team six uniform on him. I mean he was the Marine, 2181 02:06:44.520 --> 02:06:45.840 so I mean, you know he does have some of 2182 02:06:45.840 --> 02:06:49.520 that combat experience. Jonathan says. I agree. It was an 2183 02:06:49.600 --> 02:06:54.199 underwhelming finish. Thank you, Jonathan Arabian Night two thousand finish 2184 02:06:54.239 --> 02:06:56.600 of this and the retirement run in general was ruined 2185 02:06:56.640 --> 02:07:00.600 by Triple H. In my opinion, he's lost the fan trust. 2186 02:07:00.720 --> 02:07:03.560 I hope it reflects in twenty twenty six and affects business. 2187 02:07:03.840 --> 02:07:07.560 Change is needed. Well. As long as people are buying 2188 02:07:07.640 --> 02:07:09.720 up those tickets at those prices and putting money in 2189 02:07:09.760 --> 02:07:12.479 their pockets, I mean, nothing is really going to change. 2190 02:07:13.079 --> 02:07:14.920 I certainly hope we get the change that we need 2191 02:07:14.960 --> 02:07:17.199 on Friday nights when they expand the show to three 2192 02:07:17.199 --> 02:07:20.560 hours in a few weeks, where that show is going 2193 02:07:20.640 --> 02:07:24.920 to go from bad to worse real quick. That's the 2194 02:07:25.000 --> 02:07:32.159 change I'm hoping we get in the short term. Jeremy 2195 02:07:32.239 --> 02:07:35.920 Rose with the twenty two dollars rock Drop Triple H 2196 02:07:36.000 --> 02:07:41.680 hasn't had a solid, complete storyline since Bloodline, and that's debatable. Seriously, 2197 02:07:41.720 --> 02:07:44.000 this guy seems to be bulletproof because there's a portion 2198 02:07:44.039 --> 02:07:46.479 of the fans that keeps shelling out exorbitant amounts of 2199 02:07:46.479 --> 02:07:51.840 money to this company. Yeah, I mean, as long as 2200 02:07:51.840 --> 02:07:54.439 that continues, there's really no incentive for them to change. 2201 02:07:56.880 --> 02:07:59.800 Like I'm watching SmackDown last night and the Alistair Black 2202 02:07:59.840 --> 02:08:02.319 Da Me and pre stuff, right, And that's just one example. 2203 02:08:03.159 --> 02:08:04.680 And I'm like, man, this has been going on for 2204 02:08:04.720 --> 02:08:08.600 a while now, and I said, like, we're months into this. 2205 02:08:09.680 --> 02:08:12.159 I still cannot understand how we went from having a 2206 02:08:12.479 --> 02:08:15.399 last man standing match at the beginning of the feud 2207 02:08:15.600 --> 02:08:19.760 to where we are now. And I'm like, these two guys 2208 02:08:19.760 --> 02:08:21.720 are in no better of a position now than they 2209 02:08:21.760 --> 02:08:25.159 were three or four or five months ago. Like it 2210 02:08:25.199 --> 02:08:30.920 hasn't done either one of them a lick of good. 2211 02:08:33.960 --> 02:08:38.479 Paul Carpenter seriously can triple h redeem himself and how yeah, 2212 02:08:38.479 --> 02:08:42.159 he can produce you know, better television and give us 2213 02:08:42.960 --> 02:08:47.600 interesting entertaining television shows, and he can fix the fucking 2214 02:08:47.720 --> 02:08:51.359 roster on Fridays. He can start there. That would be 2215 02:08:51.399 --> 02:08:58.000 a good start. Hank says, Rick Flair's Old Yeller story 2216 02:08:58.239 --> 02:09:03.600 was way better. Actually, that segment was a great segment 2217 02:09:03.600 --> 02:09:14.079 with him and Shawn Michaels. That's a great promo. We 2218 02:09:14.159 --> 02:09:22.920 got kerber bing rigsy so so relieving to know that 2219 02:09:23.119 --> 02:09:26.079 Sola Monster feels the same way about that finish. Just 2220 02:09:26.159 --> 02:09:29.239 trying to understand the logic into what message they wanted 2221 02:09:29.279 --> 02:09:35.039 to send with that. Well, I'm going to venture a guess. 2222 02:09:35.680 --> 02:09:37.399 I'm going to venture a guess, and I'm gonna say 2223 02:09:37.399 --> 02:09:40.600 that the idea behind it was Sina came to the 2224 02:09:40.640 --> 02:09:43.680 realization that nothing he was doing was working, and he 2225 02:09:43.760 --> 02:09:47.199 knew he was fading, and he accepted his fate. It's 2226 02:09:47.239 --> 02:09:49.800 like somebody who trips and falls and looks up and 2227 02:09:49.840 --> 02:09:52.119 there's a moving train coming towards them and they just 2228 02:09:52.159 --> 02:09:55.560 sort of accept their fate. So he was at peace 2229 02:09:55.600 --> 02:09:58.000 with himself and his career, and he smiled, and he 2230 02:09:58.000 --> 02:09:59.880 looked that into the fans, or his wife or who 2231 02:10:00.239 --> 02:10:03.000 he was looking at. But that would be one thing 2232 02:10:03.000 --> 02:10:06.239 if he faded. But he didn't fade. He tapped in 2233 02:10:06.279 --> 02:10:10.000 the most anti climactic way possible. But I assume the 2234 02:10:10.039 --> 02:10:13.760 idea was simply that he accepted his fate. I'm sorry 2235 02:10:13.840 --> 02:10:16.560 that that's not a good enough story to tell with 2236 02:10:16.600 --> 02:10:19.760 that finish. It doesn't justify the finish that they did. 2237 02:10:19.760 --> 02:10:21.600 It does not make for good television, It does not 2238 02:10:21.640 --> 02:10:28.000 make for a good storybook ending. It just doesn't m 2239 02:10:28.000 --> 02:10:29.920 Mills again, I salute you. I give you a scene 2240 02:10:29.960 --> 02:10:32.039 a salute for that one hundred dollars bomb. Thank you 2241 02:10:32.680 --> 02:10:39.039 very much. Donnovan pain, Hey, Solo, what do you think 2242 02:10:39.199 --> 02:10:41.960 would have been the best time period for a Lesner 2243 02:10:42.039 --> 02:10:49.199 versus Batista match to take place? Well, Lesner was already 2244 02:10:49.239 --> 02:10:54.199 gone right early two thousand and four. Batista really wasn't 2245 02:10:54.800 --> 02:10:57.079 all that big of a deal yet at that point. 2246 02:10:58.199 --> 02:11:01.279 So I'm trying to think because Batista left in twenty ten, 2247 02:11:01.800 --> 02:11:03.960 Brock came back in twenty twelve, I just don't think 2248 02:11:04.000 --> 02:11:05.680 there was really a good time to do the match 2249 02:11:05.680 --> 02:11:08.600 where both men would have been at their peak. I 2250 02:11:08.600 --> 02:11:11.800 mean Batista came back in twenty fourteen. I would not 2251 02:11:11.840 --> 02:11:14.560 say Batista was still at his peak in twenty fourteen, 2252 02:11:14.600 --> 02:11:16.079 but I guess that would have been it. I mean 2253 02:11:16.119 --> 02:11:20.239 Brock was around, yeah, But the thing is like twenty 2254 02:11:20.279 --> 02:11:22.079 fourteen is where he broke the streak and then he 2255 02:11:22.159 --> 02:11:25.600 squashed Senaus. So it's like all of that happened in 2256 02:11:25.640 --> 02:11:29.079 the time period where Batista came back. There was no 2257 02:11:29.119 --> 02:11:30.800 way Batista was going to go in there and have 2258 02:11:30.800 --> 02:11:32.600 a competitive match with Brock when they were in the 2259 02:11:32.640 --> 02:11:36.319 process of building him up as an unstoppable monster. So 2260 02:11:36.520 --> 02:11:41.000 to answer your question, I don't think there really was 2261 02:11:41.039 --> 02:11:42.680 a prime period to get it done. I think that 2262 02:11:43.000 --> 02:11:53.319 the timing just never worked out. This Gaming Dragon says, 2263 02:11:53.319 --> 02:11:56.359 how can anyone think WWE is better than AW after 2264 02:11:56.399 --> 02:11:59.239 all of this? At the very least they know how 2265 02:11:59.279 --> 02:12:01.920 to book a retur hirement match. That they do. I 2266 02:12:01.960 --> 02:12:03.560 will give them credit for that. They know how to 2267 02:12:03.560 --> 02:12:05.840 book a retirement match and treat their legends the way 2268 02:12:05.840 --> 02:12:09.720 they should be treated. Although that doesn't mean that every 2269 02:12:09.800 --> 02:12:13.800 legend needs to win their retirement match. But I just 2270 02:12:13.840 --> 02:12:17.960 think that in this case, in this case, they did 2271 02:12:18.000 --> 02:12:23.439 wrong by Sina Give Me Backshots Solemn Monster with the 2272 02:12:23.479 --> 02:12:26.600 Dollar ninety nine. Bron's great, However, Oba is better than 2273 02:12:26.640 --> 02:12:31.359 Braun overall, easily. I'm not going to argue I like 2274 02:12:31.439 --> 02:12:35.159 them both. I think that Bron is clearly the one 2275 02:12:35.159 --> 02:12:41.680 that they have chosen to really build things around. But 2276 02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:44.720 I think Oba is great. I think Oba checks all 2277 02:12:44.760 --> 02:12:47.119 the boxes. I mean, he's got all the tools. He's 2278 02:12:47.159 --> 02:12:52.279 more physically impressive than Bron Breaker is, you know. I mean, 2279 02:12:52.319 --> 02:12:55.359 if there's one thing that he really has over Bron, 2280 02:12:56.439 --> 02:12:58.800 that's it. Like that's the main that's not it. I 2281 02:12:58.800 --> 02:13:00.800 don't mean that it's the only thing, Like that's the 2282 02:13:00.800 --> 02:13:05.279 main attribute. You know. Physically, he's far more imposing and 2283 02:13:05.319 --> 02:13:17.640 intimidating and threatening than Bron Breaker is. Matthew Amandola right choice. 2284 02:13:17.800 --> 02:13:25.720 Shout out my boy, Gene Funnings. Thank you, Matthew Zombifid guitarists. 2285 02:13:25.720 --> 02:13:27.520 I really hoped he made it part of the heel 2286 02:13:27.560 --> 02:13:30.439 turn there at the very end, Hello, he went back 2287 02:13:30.439 --> 02:13:34.479 to being a heel in his last moment. He just 2288 02:13:35.560 --> 02:13:37.920 wants to defy everybody and say, fuck it, I'm going 2289 02:13:37.960 --> 02:13:43.199 back to being a heel Warhawk Rambow. Do you think 2290 02:13:43.439 --> 02:13:46.600 h man is an overrated booker, I think by some people. Yeah, 2291 02:13:46.640 --> 02:13:49.680 he is overrated. I think some people worship at the 2292 02:13:49.720 --> 02:13:56.600 altar a little too much. That's what I think. Ricardo 2293 02:13:56.680 --> 02:13:59.720 de Jesus. The ending of this match made me a 2294 02:13:59.800 --> 02:14:03.159 preciates Sting's retirement match more. Say what you will about 2295 02:14:03.199 --> 02:14:06.079 Tony's booking, but the way that was handled, especially with 2296 02:14:06.199 --> 02:14:10.319 Sting winning, was just perfect. Yeah. And Sting wanted to lose, 2297 02:14:10.720 --> 02:14:13.600 and Tony stepped in and said, this is this is 2298 02:14:13.640 --> 02:14:15.479 the way it's going to be. This is for the better, 2299 02:14:15.600 --> 02:14:19.479 this is the right thing to do, and he put 2300 02:14:19.520 --> 02:14:21.039 his foot down. He said, no, this is what we 2301 02:14:21.079 --> 02:14:23.000 want to do. This is how we want to tell 2302 02:14:23.039 --> 02:14:29.680 this story. And it was the right choice. Jeremy says, 2303 02:14:29.720 --> 02:14:32.279 if we assume that whoever gets to eighteen is currently 2304 02:14:32.279 --> 02:14:35.399 in WWE, who would you predict personally? I don't think 2305 02:14:35.399 --> 02:14:39.039 anyone will, especially with everyone getting two hundred plus day rains. Yeah. 2306 02:14:39.239 --> 02:14:43.439 Well that's the biggest thing. Everyone has these long championship 2307 02:14:43.479 --> 02:14:48.439 reigns now, So the closest person who is still active, 2308 02:14:49.760 --> 02:14:52.680 who would be closest to seeing it in terms of 2309 02:14:52.720 --> 02:14:55.800 world title reigns on the men's side, would be it 2310 02:14:55.800 --> 02:14:58.880 would have to be Randy Orton. So Randy Orton. How 2311 02:14:58.920 --> 02:15:02.279 many does Randy Orton have at fourteen? I'm pretty sure 2312 02:15:02.319 --> 02:15:06.399 Randy Orton has fourteen? Thirteen or fourteen? I get him 2313 02:15:06.399 --> 02:15:10.640 in triple H confused, Maybe it's thirteen. I don't see 2314 02:15:10.720 --> 02:15:15.119 Randy Orton getting there after Randy. Who would it be? 2315 02:15:15.199 --> 02:15:16.760 I don't even know who the next person would be. 2316 02:15:19.159 --> 02:15:21.159 I agree, I don't think we're I don't think anybody's 2317 02:15:21.199 --> 02:15:26.159 hitting eighteen. I can't say ever, but I don't think 2318 02:15:26.159 --> 02:15:29.000 anybody's hitting eighteen. Put it that way. I know Seene 2319 02:15:29.039 --> 02:15:31.039 has made comments about I want to, you know, shake 2320 02:15:31.119 --> 02:15:34.479 the hand of the person who hits eighteen. I think 2321 02:15:34.520 --> 02:15:36.439 scene is going to be old and gray if that 2322 02:15:36.520 --> 02:15:47.640 day ever comes. Charlotte probably will. I guess. If you 2323 02:15:47.640 --> 02:15:50.239 want to count the women's championship, then I guess Sina 2324 02:15:50.279 --> 02:15:53.439 will probably be shaking Charlotte Flare's hand at some point. 2325 02:15:53.560 --> 02:15:55.199 But on the men's side, I just don't see who 2326 02:15:55.199 --> 02:16:00.560 it would be. Fro seventy nine. First the disrespect to Nemo, 2327 02:16:01.399 --> 02:16:06.479 then Alonso goes to Birdland, and now this deflated balloon 2328 02:16:06.560 --> 02:16:12.000 of a finish Diaz never wanted to stay here so 2329 02:16:12.199 --> 02:16:20.199 f him and Los Angeles. Yeah, I'm trying to figure 2330 02:16:20.239 --> 02:16:22.600 out what's worse the state of the New York Mets 2331 02:16:22.720 --> 02:16:24.760 or the finish that we got in the match tonight. 2332 02:16:28.760 --> 02:16:31.159 Jeremy Ross, I've seen a light about never giving up? 2333 02:16:31.199 --> 02:16:33.520 Then what makes us believe that he was truthful about 2334 02:16:33.600 --> 02:16:39.920 never coming back? So he's just a liar? Is that 2335 02:16:40.000 --> 02:16:47.200 his h his new mantra just makes shit up, just 2336 02:16:47.840 --> 02:16:51.520 betray everything about the character. Remember when he went here, 2337 02:16:51.600 --> 02:16:56.840 we had people making illustrations about the make a wish, 2338 02:16:56.920 --> 02:16:59.280 the break a wish, just give up. That was the 2339 02:16:59.319 --> 02:17:09.399 new slogan, just give up soul Ruka's beaver with a 2340 02:17:09.440 --> 02:17:11.920 two dollars super chat. All I gotta say is what 2341 02:17:12.159 --> 02:17:15.680 in the everlasting fuck? That's what I said when I 2342 02:17:15.719 --> 02:17:22.440 saw that name Alex from Phoenix JD mistakenly called Gunther 2343 02:17:22.719 --> 02:17:33.399 Gooner pro indigenous. It's like when Goku gave up at 2344 02:17:33.479 --> 02:17:38.799 the Cell Games out of character for the sake of 2345 02:17:38.840 --> 02:17:44.520 a plot point. Ah, yes, of course, of course Goku. 2346 02:17:45.479 --> 02:17:49.639 How could I forget? I know I'm out of the 2347 02:17:49.680 --> 02:18:00.280 loop on this venom? Kitetsu tweeted you a Carson four 2348 02:18:00.440 --> 02:18:03.040 fifty splash. I don't know I have to check that 2349 02:18:03.079 --> 02:18:06.440 out after although my poor mentions, I don't know if 2350 02:18:06.479 --> 02:18:09.399 I'm going to be able to cycle through all the responses. 2351 02:18:12.239 --> 02:18:15.920 Cameron Spencer, I want to see Omas against Oba at Mania. 2352 02:18:16.040 --> 02:18:18.120 Give me the pros and cons of that match, and 2353 02:18:18.200 --> 02:18:24.040 are you down for that? I mean, the biggest con 2354 02:18:24.120 --> 02:18:26.159 I could see is that I would not be debuting 2355 02:18:26.200 --> 02:18:28.200 Oba on the main roster, and the first feud I 2356 02:18:28.200 --> 02:18:30.000 put him in is against the guy who's even bigger 2357 02:18:30.000 --> 02:18:32.920 than him. The whole point of Oba is that he's 2358 02:18:32.920 --> 02:18:35.239 bigger than most people on the main roster. He just 2359 02:18:35.319 --> 02:18:41.120 looks intimidating, right. It's part of It's part of his persona. 2360 02:18:41.159 --> 02:18:43.920 It's part of that Aura I was talking about. You 2361 02:18:44.079 --> 02:18:46.399 kill that Aura dead in the minute. You put him 2362 02:18:46.399 --> 02:18:49.239 in the ring against somebody who's bigger than him. Why 2363 02:18:49.239 --> 02:18:52.680 would you do that? I'm all for coming up with 2364 02:18:52.799 --> 02:18:55.440 something for Omas to do as like a character on 2365 02:18:55.479 --> 02:18:58.719 the show, but I would not be doing that match 2366 02:18:58.879 --> 02:19:02.440 at Wrestle. Maybe Oba and Drew I could get behind 2367 02:19:02.440 --> 02:19:04.360 that Oba and Omas. Now I would not be doing 2368 02:19:04.399 --> 02:19:14.000 that much this gaming Dragon perfect promo bragging right sena 2369 02:19:14.200 --> 02:19:18.000 versus orton two thousand and nine, I don't remember that video. 2370 02:19:22.399 --> 02:19:24.879 I have to go back and watch that one. Bobby 2371 02:19:24.959 --> 02:19:28.440 means there will never be another John Cena. And as 2372 02:19:28.479 --> 02:19:30.680 far as who will buy WW in the coming years, 2373 02:19:30.680 --> 02:19:33.399 I don't think it will be the Saudis. You don't 2374 02:19:33.440 --> 02:19:36.840 think there won't be any Saudi money involved in that transaction. 2375 02:19:40.200 --> 02:19:42.520 Adt rs has been watching the six man Hell in 2376 02:19:42.559 --> 02:19:45.319 a Cell match from Armageddon two thousand on the vault. 2377 02:19:45.479 --> 02:19:47.360 Do you think we'll see another multi man Hell in 2378 02:19:47.399 --> 02:19:52.360 a Cell in the future. I hope not. I mean 2379 02:19:52.360 --> 02:19:55.120 not a six man to me, that's just that's too much. 2380 02:19:56.159 --> 02:19:59.719 I could see it like a triple threat. Beyond that, 2381 02:20:00.360 --> 02:20:03.040 I don't really see it happening. I think they save 2382 02:20:03.120 --> 02:20:06.000 Hell and his self, or like they did with Punkin Drew, 2383 02:20:06.040 --> 02:20:08.360 they save it for when there's an appropriate time to 2384 02:20:08.399 --> 02:20:11.600 bust it out, and that would probably be for a 2385 02:20:11.639 --> 02:20:15.559 singles match, but triple thread it at most. I don't 2386 02:20:15.559 --> 02:20:17.600 think we get a fatal four way or six way 2387 02:20:17.639 --> 02:20:21.920 or anything like that. Glizzie Bob Tko is to blame 2388 02:20:21.959 --> 02:20:24.680 for this. I just can't prove it yet. Well, you 2389 02:20:24.760 --> 02:20:26.680 just got to keep looking for the evidence to support 2390 02:20:26.680 --> 02:20:31.600 your theory. The Ice Dance TV matches on a pay 2391 02:20:31.600 --> 02:20:36.399 per view, fifteen minutes of commercials between matches, dead finishes, boring, creative, 2392 02:20:36.520 --> 02:20:44.479 self aggrandizing, and no speech offensive to fans. Technically, it's 2393 02:20:44.520 --> 02:20:47.399 not a pay per view. Do you want to be 2394 02:20:47.440 --> 02:20:52.479 technical about it? She's not wrong on all the other things. 2395 02:20:53.239 --> 02:20:55.959 Retro people who think Triple H is the worst have 2396 02:20:56.040 --> 02:21:04.479 no clue who Jim Hurd was. The kids have no idea. Ah, yes, 2397 02:21:05.079 --> 02:21:19.079 pizza hut. Jim heard William Sweeney, So have Sina so 2398 02:21:19.079 --> 02:21:26.479 so have Sena do what he said he wouldn't and quit? Yeah, 2399 02:21:26.920 --> 02:21:30.200 that's what they did. I don't know if you're asking 2400 02:21:30.239 --> 02:21:33.600 a question or making a statement, that's what he did. 2401 02:21:35.200 --> 02:21:39.200 Gold Matthew biggest missed opportunity is having healed Sena versus 2402 02:21:39.319 --> 02:21:44.680 Punk in either Chicago or Boston. I mean, dude, it 2403 02:21:44.760 --> 02:21:46.719 was right there for Chicago. That's where I thought it 2404 02:21:46.760 --> 02:21:52.200 was going to be done. Wasn't money in the bank 2405 02:21:52.239 --> 02:21:56.360 in Chicago? Maybe that was La? I think there was 2406 02:21:56.360 --> 02:21:59.239 in La. But yeah, I mean Chicago would have been 2407 02:21:59.440 --> 02:22:03.799 a great place to do it. Also, I would have 2408 02:22:03.799 --> 02:22:13.680 booked Heel Sena as a Heel reflection of Cody link 2409 02:22:13.760 --> 02:22:16.639 Master X. We can fix this Sena number thirty and 2410 02:22:16.760 --> 02:22:24.920 wins the rumble. Keep Dreaming, Keep fighting, the good fight. 2411 02:22:25.719 --> 02:22:31.399 Link Master X reconcned with forty nine months of channel membership, 2412 02:22:31.479 --> 02:22:34.639 says from Judgment Day O five to WrestleMania twenty three 2413 02:22:34.680 --> 02:22:37.040 to twenty five, Once in a Lifetime to his final 2414 02:22:37.079 --> 02:22:40.520 match in Florida. It's been surreal knowing I got to 2415 02:22:40.559 --> 02:22:43.399 see his whole career live and now it is over. 2416 02:22:44.760 --> 02:22:48.719 Thank you Sina. So you were at Once in a 2417 02:22:48.760 --> 02:22:51.879 Lifetime too, huh. We may have been sitting next to 2418 02:22:51.920 --> 02:22:56.000 each other. Of course, Once in a Lifetime ended up 2419 02:22:56.000 --> 02:23:00.280 being a lie, but at the time it sounded great. 2420 02:23:02.040 --> 02:23:09.360 Thank you weakan Son. We got Sema j P five fourteen. 2421 02:23:09.399 --> 02:23:12.280 I understand the finish. It was definitely tongue in cheek. 2422 02:23:12.440 --> 02:23:15.479 Oh well, that's that's great. So we got a tongue 2423 02:23:15.479 --> 02:23:26.280 in cheek finish to John Cena's final match. Great SMG. 2424 02:23:26.600 --> 02:23:29.600 Kobe watch with friends who aren't wrestling fans, and the 2425 02:23:29.600 --> 02:23:32.280 finish made them not want to watch a WWE at all. 2426 02:23:32.760 --> 02:23:41.120 This wasn't about gunther fans wanted Sena. Yeah, it's not. Look, 2427 02:23:41.200 --> 02:23:43.319 they didn't create a single new fan with that match. 2428 02:23:45.399 --> 02:23:48.280 Maybe that wasn't their intent, but the way they were 2429 02:23:48.319 --> 02:23:51.920 promoting this match, and you had all of these mainstream 2430 02:23:51.959 --> 02:23:55.079 interviews with Cina and on ESPN and all these different places, 2431 02:23:55.120 --> 02:23:57.600 and the morning shows on the major news networks and 2432 02:23:57.719 --> 02:24:01.680 the major news shows. They didn't make a single new 2433 02:24:01.719 --> 02:24:06.239 fan with that main event tonight, So I would imagine 2434 02:24:06.239 --> 02:24:09.959 those casual observers probably were not very happy with what 2435 02:24:10.000 --> 02:24:14.440 they saw. Link Master says Ram Jam had a better 2436 02:24:14.520 --> 02:24:16.639 last match. I think Randy the Ram had a better 2437 02:24:16.760 --> 02:24:18.840 last match, and he probably fucking died at the end 2438 02:24:18.840 --> 02:24:23.319 of it. We don't know for sure, but it seems 2439 02:24:23.360 --> 02:24:29.920 like he did. Venom Catetsu says John Cena retired but 2440 02:24:30.000 --> 02:24:37.520 not Jan Sina loophole interesting. You know they did buy 2441 02:24:37.520 --> 02:24:41.719 Triple A, So imagine if Juan Sena pops up in 2442 02:24:41.760 --> 02:24:49.920 Triple A to fight off El Grande Americana. We have 2443 02:24:50.120 --> 02:24:56.600 warm corn, warm corn with a two dollars super shot 2444 02:24:57.319 --> 02:25:02.559 gunther needs the rub barbicue Thank you Cajun Dry, which 2445 02:25:02.639 --> 02:25:09.760 rub might be that happy ending finish that people were 2446 02:25:09.760 --> 02:25:21.959 talking about. Uha Yanko Riggsy. What's just as infuriating is 2447 02:25:22.000 --> 02:25:25.360 knowing when Sena eventually gets asked about that finish in interviews, 2448 02:25:25.479 --> 02:25:29.399 he'll spend some philosophical non answer. Oh oh yes he will, 2449 02:25:29.559 --> 02:25:34.840 as only John Cena can. Yeah. I feel like if 2450 02:25:34.879 --> 02:25:38.559 you were to ask John Cena like what's your favorite food? 2451 02:25:40.440 --> 02:25:42.959 Simple question, right, like what's your favorite food? What's your 2452 02:25:42.959 --> 02:25:45.440 favorite food that you like to eat? And he would 2453 02:25:45.479 --> 02:25:47.440 just come back at you with some kind of answer like, oh, 2454 02:25:47.520 --> 02:25:51.159 you know, all food is good and nutritious and uh, 2455 02:25:51.719 --> 02:25:55.120 you know some some big I feel like you said, 2456 02:25:55.159 --> 02:25:59.399 philosophical type of answer where he doesn't really answer the 2457 02:25:59.479 --> 02:26:03.920 question but he just wants to not offend anybody and 2458 02:26:04.000 --> 02:26:11.680 just answer in the most vague way possible. Arabian Night, 2459 02:26:11.840 --> 02:26:14.840 why two Jay saw tonight and is like, Nope, Tony 2460 02:26:14.879 --> 02:26:18.280 Khan will treat me better. I mean the reality is 2461 02:26:18.360 --> 02:26:21.879 Tony Khan will treat him better, probably pay him a 2462 02:26:21.879 --> 02:26:30.239 lot more. We've got Jeremy Rose. Speaking of that six 2463 02:26:30.280 --> 02:26:33.040 man helen a cell, the total entrances were six and 2464 02:26:33.040 --> 02:26:36.479 a half minutes. Today everyone takes five minutes each, Jay 2465 02:26:36.559 --> 02:26:38.520 gets fifteen. Oh forget about if you had a six 2466 02:26:38.559 --> 02:26:42.000 man hell of a Cell match today, the entrances alone 2467 02:26:42.000 --> 02:26:49.840 would be twenty minutes. Warhawk Rambo as bad as Triple 2468 02:26:50.000 --> 02:26:53.959 H's as a booker. Vic Venom and Herd are both worse. 2469 02:26:54.120 --> 02:26:59.920 I swear kids these days, link Master. They even boot 2470 02:27:00.040 --> 02:27:02.399 Triple H when he appeared in the video. Yeah, I 2471 02:27:02.399 --> 02:27:07.440 didn't notice that they booed him board than they booed Vince. 2472 02:27:09.000 --> 02:27:16.159 What does that tell you? Warm Corn says, Jim heard. 2473 02:27:16.479 --> 02:27:23.639 What did he hear? It's a good question he heard 2474 02:27:23.680 --> 02:27:27.159 he was going to be fired, Glizzie, Bob, did you 2475 02:27:27.200 --> 02:27:30.319 see the report that WWE was confused by the response 2476 02:27:30.360 --> 02:27:33.120 to La Night getting destroyed by the Vision on Monday Night? 2477 02:27:34.319 --> 02:27:38.040 They are so tone deaf now, I mean the idea 2478 02:27:37.280 --> 02:27:41.239 of the idea behind the report is that they don't 2479 02:27:41.280 --> 02:27:44.120 understand why people would be so upset when they have 2480 02:27:44.200 --> 02:27:48.040 these big, grand plans for La Night. Time will tell 2481 02:27:49.159 --> 02:27:52.200 it's not that people are just upset over what happened 2482 02:27:52.239 --> 02:27:57.000 on Monday Night. It's been many, many months that people 2483 02:27:57.040 --> 02:27:59.440 online have been like, what about La Night? What's gonna be? 2484 02:27:59.440 --> 02:28:00.959 You know, when he's la and not going to get 2485 02:28:00.959 --> 02:28:04.639 his chance to shine because he was being fed constantly 2486 02:28:04.680 --> 02:28:06.559 to the Vision all summer long. I mean, this is 2487 02:28:06.559 --> 02:28:09.959 not like a one night thing. So people are very 2488 02:28:10.000 --> 02:28:13.239 upset about the way he's been booked and companies like oh, 2489 02:28:13.280 --> 02:28:15.479 I can't understand why people would be so upset about 2490 02:28:15.479 --> 02:28:17.280 the way La and Night was being booked on Monday Night. 2491 02:28:17.639 --> 02:28:19.719 He's in for a big push in twenty twenty six. 2492 02:28:20.680 --> 02:28:23.120 I vividly remember tweets going around at the beginning of 2493 02:28:23.120 --> 02:28:25.840 twenty twenty five saying that finn Balor was in store 2494 02:28:25.920 --> 02:28:29.799 for a major singles push this year. I'm still waiting 2495 02:28:29.799 --> 02:28:36.799 on that major singles push for Finn Balor. Duffs Evids 2496 02:28:36.840 --> 02:28:40.760 with ten months of membership, can you name two structures 2497 02:28:40.799 --> 02:28:50.040 that water well? Damn Retro says buy or sell on? 2498 02:28:50.079 --> 02:28:53.280 Which is worse? Gunther tapping out Sena or Brock beating 2499 02:28:53.360 --> 02:29:04.239 Undertaker at WrestleMania Brock beating Undertaker at WrestleMania Arabian Night. 2500 02:29:04.280 --> 02:29:07.920 If anything, they drove fans away and AW gained a few. 2501 02:29:10.280 --> 02:29:12.319 I don't know if AW gained a few. They may 2502 02:29:12.360 --> 02:29:15.040 have gained a few, but I don't think it's AW 2503 02:29:15.200 --> 02:29:16.959 gained a few more than just They may have just 2504 02:29:17.079 --> 02:29:21.680 driven some fans away that I can believe. Link Master 2505 02:29:21.799 --> 02:29:30.200 Alex Riley is laughing right now. Navy forty one eighty 2506 02:29:30.200 --> 02:29:32.879 one is triple H the only one to not lose 2507 02:29:32.920 --> 02:29:46.280 a final WWE match. No. No, Undertaker's last match was 2508 02:29:46.319 --> 02:29:49.040 the Boneyard match right against the AJ Styles, and he 2509 02:29:49.079 --> 02:29:53.799 won that one. And he beat John Cena in an 2510 02:29:53.799 --> 02:29:58.600 actual match at wrestle Mania thirty four. I don't know 2511 02:29:58.639 --> 02:30:01.079 what the official last match Brett Hart would have been, 2512 02:30:01.120 --> 02:30:03.879 but I mean he won the US title the last 2513 02:30:03.879 --> 02:30:05.399 time he had to run. He beat the Miss. I mean, 2514 02:30:05.440 --> 02:30:06.959 I mean I thought it wasn't his last match, But 2515 02:30:08.000 --> 02:30:09.760 now Triple H is not the only one to not 2516 02:30:09.799 --> 02:30:14.079 lose his final match. And Duff's VIDs can you name 2517 02:30:14.120 --> 02:30:18.479 two structures that hold water? Well, damn didn't. I just 2518 02:30:18.520 --> 02:30:22.399 read that one. He sent that as a member chat 2519 02:30:22.440 --> 02:30:24.920 and a super chat. He was so impressed by this 2520 02:30:25.079 --> 02:30:31.280 joke he had to say it twice. We got KCU 2521 02:30:31.520 --> 02:30:37.760 Unfiltered thirty two months of channel membership. What is next 2522 02:30:37.840 --> 02:30:41.479 for Gunther? I do believe it will be brock Lesnar 2523 02:30:43.479 --> 02:30:48.440 That would be my best guess, although Gunther and Obo 2524 02:30:48.479 --> 02:30:50.360 would be pretty cool, but it just feels like that's 2525 02:30:50.399 --> 02:31:00.840 a little too soon to jump into that. We got 2526 02:31:02.319 --> 02:31:06.360 Sean Dee thirty two months of membership. The way I 2527 02:31:06.399 --> 02:31:08.520 see it, this has been the year of Sea going 2528 02:31:08.559 --> 02:31:10.879 back on his word, first with the heel turn, now 2529 02:31:10.920 --> 02:31:14.520 with the tapping out. So the legacy he leaves behind 2530 02:31:14.639 --> 02:31:17.559 is that he's a liar and a hypocrite. Is that 2531 02:31:17.600 --> 02:31:20.040 what I'm getting out of this? It's a hell of 2532 02:31:20.040 --> 02:31:27.440 a legacy to leave behind. Link Master says the icy 2533 02:31:27.479 --> 02:31:30.799 blue shirt is a nice touch. That's from three days ago. 2534 02:31:30.879 --> 02:31:34.040 Why am I reading that now? I'm not wearing an 2535 02:31:34.159 --> 02:31:37.120 icy blue shirt. I w wear that on Wednesday, all right. 2536 02:31:37.159 --> 02:31:40.719 I think I finally got through all of your messages, 2537 02:31:40.760 --> 02:31:43.600 and there were many of them which I love. I 2538 02:31:43.639 --> 02:31:46.239 fucking love it. Well, you guys killed it on the likes. 2539 02:31:46.239 --> 02:31:49.639 We are well over a thousand likes, and you hit 2540 02:31:49.680 --> 02:31:52.479 the bonus goal, which is still going up, up and 2541 02:31:52.479 --> 02:31:58.440 away as more messages come in. Jonathan with two bucks. 2542 02:31:58.840 --> 02:32:02.000 He donated two dollars to get buried by Triple H. 2543 02:32:02.079 --> 02:32:06.120 Look at this. Would Gunther Brock be heel against heel? 2544 02:32:08.079 --> 02:32:10.799 I don't think that if they did the match, it 2545 02:32:10.879 --> 02:32:13.520 would end up being booked that way. I think one 2546 02:32:13.520 --> 02:32:15.200 of them would have to be a babyface, and it 2547 02:32:15.200 --> 02:32:19.159 would probably be Brock. I think if it was going 2548 02:32:19.239 --> 02:32:20.639 to be one of them, it would be lesner. I 2549 02:32:20.639 --> 02:32:23.000 don't think they would book it as heel against heel, 2550 02:32:24.079 --> 02:32:25.840 but I do think there's a very good chance we're 2551 02:32:25.840 --> 02:32:28.280 going to get it. I don't think that it would 2552 02:32:28.280 --> 02:32:30.719 make no sense for me to me for it to 2553 02:32:30.760 --> 02:32:33.280 be guntherer because you just had Gunther beat John Cena 2554 02:32:33.360 --> 02:32:37.079 in the like the most heelish way possible, so that 2555 02:32:37.200 --> 02:32:39.239 you get a turn in baby face like that doesn't 2556 02:32:39.239 --> 02:32:43.120 make any sense. Brock would actually have to be the 2557 02:32:43.159 --> 02:32:54.920 babyface in that situation. Thank you, Zachary. All Right, it's 2558 02:32:54.959 --> 02:32:58.680 time to be some be some booker. No, it's called 2559 02:32:58.760 --> 02:33:00.639 be the booker. Why did I say be some booker. 2560 02:33:01.280 --> 02:33:06.559 I'm the booker. Let's do it, ladies and gentlemen. I 2561 02:33:06.559 --> 02:33:19.239 don't even know what I'm saying. Ah the susa, he 2562 02:33:19.319 --> 02:33:22.319 says as a bald man. The f you baldy chance 2563 02:33:22.360 --> 02:33:29.200 at triple h offend me, leave the leave the I 2564 02:33:29.239 --> 02:33:32.319 think it's a follically challenged is what you meant to say. 2565 02:33:32.760 --> 02:33:40.159 Leave the follically challenged alone. It's all right. We love 2566 02:33:40.200 --> 02:33:42.559 the follicy. We loved I can't even speak. We love 2567 02:33:42.639 --> 02:33:49.799 the follically challenged. Here on the sound off. It's all good. 2568 02:33:51.479 --> 02:33:53.239 All right, so this is where we have some fun here. 2569 02:33:53.399 --> 02:33:55.680 Can I book a better car than Triple H did tonight? 2570 02:33:55.799 --> 02:33:58.600 I think the answer is yes. Can I book a 2571 02:33:58.600 --> 02:34:02.959 better finish than Triple H did tonight? Absolutely? I won't 2572 02:34:03.040 --> 02:34:08.120 let you down. Case in point, we're kicking things off 2573 02:34:08.120 --> 02:34:13.479 with Sting and the Great Muta. There's a badass team. 2574 02:34:14.040 --> 02:34:21.840 Grandpa Sting and Grandpa Muda. Still badass. Look at that team. 2575 02:34:21.520 --> 02:34:24.479 I'm very that image you just saw by the way. 2576 02:34:24.559 --> 02:34:27.959 I was at that show. So that's the last time 2577 02:34:28.000 --> 02:34:30.799 I got to see Sting live in person. It may 2578 02:34:30.840 --> 02:34:33.200 have been the only time. No, that's not true. I 2579 02:34:33.200 --> 02:34:35.799 went to WrestleMania WrestleMania thirty one. What the fuck am 2580 02:34:35.840 --> 02:34:38.760 I saying? But that was definitely the last time I 2581 02:34:38.799 --> 02:34:41.319 ever saw Sting live and I got to see him 2582 02:34:41.399 --> 02:34:43.639 and the Great Muda make an appearance on that show. 2583 02:34:44.920 --> 02:34:47.479 That was a Grand Slam over at Arthur ash Stadium 2584 02:34:47.479 --> 02:34:51.399 a few years ago. They're gonna be Oh, for God, 2585 02:34:52.719 --> 02:34:59.879 why why? It was a gimme? It was a sl 2586 02:35:00.040 --> 02:35:11.200 I am dunk Sting and Mudha against Headbanger Mosh and 2587 02:35:11.399 --> 02:35:21.799 Di lo O Brown. Low down. I'm pissed that I 2588 02:35:21.799 --> 02:35:24.040 had to give the buzzer to sting in the Great 2589 02:35:24.079 --> 02:35:28.440 Mooda as a tag team. I'm very upset about this. 2590 02:35:34.680 --> 02:35:37.680 You know, we had last night on the stream. We 2591 02:35:37.799 --> 02:35:43.000 actually had a loser Leaves Town match and Trent Burretta 2592 02:35:43.040 --> 02:35:45.959 and Chuck Taylor, the best friends, were in the match, 2593 02:35:46.120 --> 02:35:48.200 and so I said, to live up to the stipulation, 2594 02:35:48.639 --> 02:35:51.200 someone's gotta go. They were the ones who got the 2595 02:35:51.239 --> 02:35:56.479 boot gone from be the booker. We need to have 2596 02:35:56.520 --> 02:36:03.479 one of those loser Leaves Town stipulations for lowdown. All right, 2597 02:36:03.520 --> 02:36:08.719 we got the man, We got Becky Lynch here and 2598 02:36:08.799 --> 02:36:12.639 be the booker. I think Becky is on the mount 2599 02:36:12.719 --> 02:36:17.399 Rushmore for women's wrestlers. That's what I think. Becky Lynch 2600 02:36:17.680 --> 02:36:26.639 is going to take on the beautiful Mariah may you know. 2601 02:36:26.680 --> 02:36:28.360 It excites me that that could be a match one 2602 02:36:28.399 --> 02:36:30.879 day on the main roster in the not too distant future, 2603 02:36:32.239 --> 02:36:37.440 Becky Lynch against Blake Monroe. I look forward to that. 2604 02:36:42.639 --> 02:36:45.280 And now our first main event of the evening, don't 2605 02:36:45.319 --> 02:36:47.319 let me down. Come on, be the booker. Don't let 2606 02:36:47.360 --> 02:36:53.239 me down. Here we have the tribal chief, the OTC, 2607 02:36:54.000 --> 02:36:56.799 the head of the table, the big dog that I 2608 02:36:56.799 --> 02:37:09.520 get them alls in the main event, but against who 2609 02:37:15.079 --> 02:37:22.760 against John Cena? Well, then I think to be the 2610 02:37:22.799 --> 02:37:25.959 booker gods. They just were shining down upon us tonight. 2611 02:37:26.000 --> 02:37:27.959 They just knew there was just something in the air, 2612 02:37:28.000 --> 02:37:31.399 and they just knew that we landed on John Cena 2613 02:37:31.920 --> 02:37:35.440 in the main event. And I make this vow, I 2614 02:37:35.520 --> 02:37:38.440 make this promise to you that in this match you 2615 02:37:38.479 --> 02:37:40.239 will get a much better finished than the one that 2616 02:37:40.280 --> 02:37:44.200 you got tonight. I'll book a better retirement match for 2617 02:37:44.280 --> 02:37:51.159 John Cena than Triple H did there? You go? No clean, sweet, 2618 02:37:51.200 --> 02:37:52.920 But at least we ended strong there with that good 2619 02:37:52.959 --> 02:37:59.840 main event. I can't believe that Scena's real last match. 2620 02:38:01.079 --> 02:38:10.680 That's right, all right, you earned a bonus round. So 2621 02:38:10.760 --> 02:38:13.159 now we get stipulations. This is where it gets dicey. 2622 02:38:13.879 --> 02:38:16.000 We got some good stipulations, we got some not so 2623 02:38:16.120 --> 02:38:20.840 good stipulations. This could be a very dangerous thing here. 2624 02:38:24.239 --> 02:38:27.840 Buried alive. I could think of a few people who 2625 02:38:27.920 --> 02:38:33.399 were buried alive. All right, We're gonna have ourselves a 2626 02:38:33.440 --> 02:38:36.319 buried alive tag team match. There's only one of them 2627 02:38:36.319 --> 02:38:38.719 in history that I could think of, and it was 2628 02:38:38.760 --> 02:38:46.719 a damn good one on SmackDown. Well, I mean this 2629 02:38:46.879 --> 02:38:52.159 is okay, this is kind of morbid. Actually, we landed 2630 02:38:52.159 --> 02:38:54.680 on the buried alive stipulation and the first thing that 2631 02:38:54.719 --> 02:39:00.719 pop up are the Van Eric boys. Although actually Kevin 2632 02:39:00.799 --> 02:39:02.879 is the only one who's still alive. Kerry is not. 2633 02:39:03.559 --> 02:39:07.639 Kevin is all right, So that's that's less morbid. That's 2634 02:39:07.639 --> 02:39:09.760 not the stipulation I was hoping to land out here 2635 02:39:10.399 --> 02:39:16.159 for the VN Erics. Boy, this be the booker has 2636 02:39:16.360 --> 02:39:20.680 gotten dark here tonight. All the teams the land done. Really, 2637 02:39:23.360 --> 02:39:28.120 this thing is a mind of its own. Oh man, 2638 02:39:28.239 --> 02:39:30.280 the ladies are gonna go nuts for this match. It's 2639 02:39:30.280 --> 02:39:36.879 going to be the VN Erics against the American males Marcus, 2640 02:39:36.920 --> 02:39:42.120 Alexander Bagwell and Scottie Riggs in a buried alive match. 2641 02:39:46.239 --> 02:39:51.040 For shame be the booker. It's very is a terrible 2642 02:39:51.040 --> 02:39:56.360 stipulation for this match. How dare you? It's awful? Have 2643 02:39:56.440 --> 02:40:06.159 you no shame? All right? Our next stipulation is going 2644 02:40:06.200 --> 02:40:11.520 to be an I quit match. As we see Randy 2645 02:40:11.639 --> 02:40:15.559 Orton spitting on John Cena in the background here, technically 2646 02:40:15.559 --> 02:40:17.840 our second time here is selecting John Cena and be 2647 02:40:17.879 --> 02:40:24.239 the booker. So what we have is an I quit 2648 02:40:24.479 --> 02:40:33.479 women's match that will feature the eradicator, Real Ripley. Good start, 2649 02:40:33.840 --> 02:40:43.120 a very good start, very encouraging start. I'll give this 2650 02:40:43.120 --> 02:40:50.000 a drum roll. Since it's the women's main event. I 2651 02:40:50.120 --> 02:40:56.040 quit match Ria Ripley against Tiffany Stratton. I don't know 2652 02:40:56.079 --> 02:40:59.719 where she is, but I think that would be a 2653 02:40:59.760 --> 02:41:07.760 good one. And this is it. We go from our 2654 02:41:08.040 --> 02:41:10.159 Night one main event to our Night two main event. 2655 02:41:12.000 --> 02:41:13.360 I don't know. It's gonna be hard to top that 2656 02:41:13.440 --> 02:41:15.760 Night one main event. We had Roman Reigns and John Cena. 2657 02:41:17.920 --> 02:41:20.200 This is going to be a casket match. We already 2658 02:41:20.239 --> 02:41:22.799 had a buried a live match. Now we have a 2659 02:41:22.840 --> 02:41:29.399 casket match. Be the booker is it's it's in a 2660 02:41:29.440 --> 02:41:35.120 mood tonight. I don't know what it's gotten into this thing, 2661 02:41:39.959 --> 02:41:44.639 a casket match. We have the ae W World Champion, 2662 02:41:44.680 --> 02:41:49.680 Samoa Joe on one side of the coin on the 2663 02:41:49.719 --> 02:41:53.399 other Samoa Joe. You know we always say Joe's gonna 2664 02:41:53.479 --> 02:41:55.399 kill you, Joe's gonna kill you. Who's Joe gonna kill 2665 02:41:55.440 --> 02:42:03.920 and bury fac We're not done yet. We're not done yet. 2666 02:42:03.959 --> 02:42:09.520 We now have a fatal four way casket match. I 2667 02:42:09.520 --> 02:42:12.319 don't believe there's ever been a fatal four way casket match, 2668 02:42:12.360 --> 02:42:14.879 but we're about to make history here by having the 2669 02:42:14.920 --> 02:42:17.760 first ever fatal four way casket match, So I guess 2670 02:42:17.799 --> 02:42:22.639 the rules would be. It's pretty much just bedlam until 2671 02:42:22.680 --> 02:42:25.559 one person puts someone in a casket and slams the lid, 2672 02:42:25.559 --> 02:42:27.920 and when that happens, that's it. The match is over. 2673 02:42:30.040 --> 02:42:36.879 So that's the way this is gonna work. Oh man, 2674 02:42:37.520 --> 02:42:40.120 all right, well we have Samoa Joe. We need three 2675 02:42:40.200 --> 02:42:51.040 more Orange Cassidy. Oh he'll kill Orange Cassidy easily, no problem, 2676 02:42:51.159 --> 02:42:56.360 that's an easy one three casket No, no, nope, nope, 2677 02:42:56.520 --> 02:42:59.719 one casket. First person who goes in, the person who 2678 02:42:59.719 --> 02:43:10.680 puts the wins the match. Hiroshi Tanahashi, Samoa Joe, Orange Cassidy, Hiroshi. 2679 02:43:10.799 --> 02:43:16.360 This is like an aw rific match here. This is 2680 02:43:16.399 --> 02:43:25.040 an all elite main event no longer. It's not the 2681 02:43:25.120 --> 02:43:29.920 Heartbreak Kid, Shawn Michaels. And you know what, any main 2682 02:43:29.959 --> 02:43:32.799 event that has Shawn Michaels and Tanahashi in it, let 2683 02:43:32.840 --> 02:43:35.840 alone Samoa Joe. I don't care what the stipulation is. 2684 02:43:38.040 --> 02:43:39.920 It could be dog shit on a pole for all 2685 02:43:39.959 --> 02:43:43.959 I care. That's getting a bell. Michael's and tana Hashi 2686 02:43:44.000 --> 02:43:47.159 man the one that got away from us. Tanahashi's also 2687 02:43:47.239 --> 02:43:50.639 retiring in a few weeks. I'm gonna I'm gonna wager 2688 02:43:50.639 --> 02:43:55.200 a bet here. I'm gonna wager bet that Tanahashi has 2689 02:43:55.239 --> 02:44:00.440 a better retirement match than john SENA did? You got 2690 02:44:00.479 --> 02:44:05.639 Tanahashi and Okada in the dome in front of fifty 2691 02:44:05.680 --> 02:44:16.000 thousand people, and these final batch of super chats here 2692 02:44:16.040 --> 02:44:18.920 we've got first of all, fire Grand Welcome to all 2693 02:44:18.920 --> 02:44:20.760 of the new subscribers. We picked up a whole bunch 2694 02:44:20.799 --> 02:44:26.000 of them tonight. I hope you enjoy your stay warm. 2695 02:44:26.079 --> 02:44:29.840 Corn says, now Sina doesn't have to avoid tap water anymore. 2696 02:44:33.639 --> 02:44:36.879 Mike Witt says things last AW run was so much 2697 02:44:36.920 --> 02:44:40.920 better than Seena's last WWE run, and it wasn't even close. 2698 02:44:45.680 --> 02:44:50.079 Luis with the twenty two Women of Wrestling on KCl 2699 02:44:50.239 --> 02:44:54.399 over Johnsena's retirement match, Tripleah should be banished to the 2700 02:44:54.440 --> 02:45:00.479 shadow realm for that dog piss finish the Women of 2701 02:45:00.520 --> 02:45:03.760 Wrestling on your local TV station over Johnsen's retirement match. 2702 02:45:04.159 --> 02:45:06.239 You have a dude, it's on peacock, It's not on 2703 02:45:06.280 --> 02:45:11.520 your your Oh, it's a direction you can fuck unless 2704 02:45:11.559 --> 02:45:14.280 you're saying you chose to watch that over Johnsen his 2705 02:45:14.360 --> 02:45:22.280 retirement match. Bdo watch Saturday night's main event with my 2706 02:45:22.360 --> 02:45:26.760 nephews and some friends who had tuned out of wrestling 2707 02:45:26.920 --> 02:45:29.520 sucks Having them exposed to what fart of a show 2708 02:45:29.920 --> 02:45:33.920 got me looking goofy. Yeah, you're the bad guy. Now 2709 02:45:35.399 --> 02:45:44.719 you wasted their time. I'm loving all the Supercyan super 2710 02:45:44.799 --> 02:45:48.040 chats tonight. And Glizzie Bob says to I'm aw from 2711 02:45:48.079 --> 02:45:51.440 now on, see you Wednesday nights solo. I'll be here, 2712 02:45:54.040 --> 02:45:56.479 I'll be here. Unfortunately we have three hours of it 2713 02:45:57.079 --> 02:46:04.040 on Wednesday. No weekly show should ever be three hours. 2714 02:46:05.159 --> 02:46:07.840 And Jonathan says, what do you say to people who 2715 02:46:07.920 --> 02:46:09.959 said that he would tap? What do you say to 2716 02:46:10.040 --> 02:46:12.719 people who said that he would tap? What do I 2717 02:46:12.799 --> 02:46:18.040 say to them? I blame you. I blame you for 2718 02:46:18.159 --> 02:46:20.760 putting that out in the atmosphere. I think you're the 2719 02:46:20.799 --> 02:46:28.760 reason why it happened. So I say, boo boo. But 2720 02:46:28.799 --> 02:46:30.680 that woman in the Prince's Bride when she wakes up 2721 02:46:30.680 --> 02:46:36.200 from the dream, boo boo to you. That's what I say. Anyway, 2722 02:46:36.479 --> 02:46:40.319 you guys killed it all stream long. We had upwards 2723 02:46:40.319 --> 02:46:43.520 of thirty two hundred people in here at one point 2724 02:46:43.840 --> 02:46:47.719 still rocking well over twenty three hundred. You guys are awesome. 2725 02:46:48.879 --> 02:46:52.479 Thank you for a great review, even if the finish 2726 02:46:52.520 --> 02:46:55.520 of that show tonight wasn't great. I got a big 2727 02:46:55.559 --> 02:46:58.559 podcast for you tomorrow, very John Cena centric, with some 2728 02:46:58.600 --> 02:47:01.600 other news and notes. We'll talk more about the fallout 2729 02:47:01.600 --> 02:47:04.879 from this show. This retirement run again the top fifteen 2730 02:47:05.799 --> 02:47:09.040 best matches plus some honorable mentions, so it's more like 2731 02:47:09.920 --> 02:47:13.479 twenty or twenty one matches, but the best ones of 2732 02:47:13.559 --> 02:47:18.399 John Cena his career. Takes some mailbag questions. It's already late, 2733 02:47:18.680 --> 02:47:21.440 so look for it later in the afternoon. It's not 2734 02:47:21.479 --> 02:47:24.360 going to be up too early tomorrow, but I'll get 2735 02:47:24.360 --> 02:47:28.399 that recorded and we'll put that out. Luis, you get 2736 02:47:28.440 --> 02:47:30.719 the last word. So as I'm waiting for Women of 2737 02:47:30.760 --> 02:47:33.920 Wrestling to air on Channel nine here in LA after 2738 02:47:33.959 --> 02:47:38.879 the news, well, I hope it's a good show. I 2739 02:47:38.879 --> 02:47:45.440 hope you enjoy it. And Jim h six V only 2740 02:47:45.479 --> 02:47:53.959 one word encompasses that finish, resignation or shit. Well, we're 2741 02:47:54.000 --> 02:47:56.520 all resigned to the fact that John Cena his career 2742 02:47:56.680 --> 02:48:00.840 is now over, and so we close the book on 2743 02:48:00.959 --> 02:48:05.559 the Sena chapter, someone who this company was built around 2744 02:48:05.680 --> 02:48:10.719 for well over a decade, and he's now done over 2745 02:48:11.680 --> 02:48:14.719 Sena himself in the interviews that he did, you know, 2746 02:48:14.760 --> 02:48:16.520 he said, look, I know that a few weeks from 2747 02:48:16.520 --> 02:48:18.360 now they're going to be talking about the Royal Rumble 2748 02:48:18.360 --> 02:48:22.360 and I will be forgotten and everybody will have moved on. 2749 02:48:22.600 --> 02:48:25.239 And you know what, it's true. It's true because the 2750 02:48:25.239 --> 02:48:30.600 world moves very quickly. Here today, gone tomorrow, out of sight, 2751 02:48:30.760 --> 02:48:35.559 out of mind. But John Cena had himself a very 2752 02:48:35.600 --> 02:48:39.399 blessed career. Even if this was not the most blessed year, 2753 02:48:39.799 --> 02:48:42.680 he had a very blessed career. We'll talk more about 2754 02:48:42.719 --> 02:48:47.000 that tomorrow. Be well, stay safe, have yourselves a great 2755 02:48:47.040 --> 02:48:50.079 rest of your night, and keep your eyes peeled. Later 2756 02:48:50.280 --> 02:48:54.399 today for episode nine forty two of The SoundOff, hit 2757 02:48:54.440 --> 02:48:56.159 that like button on your way out and leave a comment. 2758 02:48:56.760 --> 02:48:58.399 I will see you guys for the raw post show 2759 02:48:58.479 --> 02:49:00.920 live here on YouTube on Monday day nights. Until then, 2760 02:49:01.520 --> 02:49:02.440 take care, guys,