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<v Speaker 1>The custo of experiences and tours, Allison's in Florence, getting

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<v Speaker 1>itinery ideas for Northern Italy, plus even some questions about

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<v Speaker 1>Untold Italy itself. We are covering a lot of ground

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<v Speaker 1>on this Q and a episode that will be useful

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<v Speaker 1>for first times and regular visitors to Italy.

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<v Speaker 2>Tawatuti and Benvenuti too. One Told Italy. The travel podcast

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<v Speaker 2>to where you go to the towns and villages, mountains

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<v Speaker 2>and lakes, hills and coastlines of Belli, Italia. Each week,

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<v Speaker 2>your host Katie Clark takes you on a journey in

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<v Speaker 2>a search of magical landscapes, history, culture, wine, gelato, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course a whole lot of pasta. If you're dreaming

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<v Speaker 2>of Italy and planning future adventures there, you've come to

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<v Speaker 2>the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>Jao Bonjiono ben Venuti and welcome to the Untold Italy

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<v Speaker 1>Travel podcast, where we help curious travelers like you open

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<v Speaker 1>the door to the Italy that they have been searching for.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Katie, the founder of Untold Italy and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>recording weekly podcast episodes since twenty twenty. This is episode

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<v Speaker 1>number three hundred and thirty three, and if you're new here,

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to download our podcast episode guide so

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<v Speaker 1>you can choose the episodes that are best for you

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<v Speaker 1>and where you're at in your Italy planning journey. Because

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<v Speaker 1>there is rather a lot of content, we'll put a

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<v Speaker 1>link to how you can get that in the episode

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<v Speaker 1>show notes on our website, on your podcast app two,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can go straight to Untold Italy dot com

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<v Speaker 1>forward slash podcast and you'll find it there. On today's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm answering listener questions and there are quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>to cover, So what I'm going to do for this

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<v Speaker 1>one is break it down into groups because we have

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<v Speaker 1>some questions from first time listeners or from people going

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<v Speaker 1>back to Italy after many years. We have quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few about Untold Italy and also some curly questions which

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<v Speaker 1>I love from our more frequent travelers to Italy.

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<v Speaker 3>Our goal, as always is to help.

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<v Speaker 1>You plan your trip wherever you are in your trip

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<v Speaker 1>planning journey. We have hundreds of free resources on this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and on our website if you are a dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>DIY planner, but if you do want some help planning

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<v Speaker 1>your trip, or you'd simply like everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Done for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here for you too, So let's kick things

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<v Speaker 1>off with some questions for first timers. I'll answer these

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<v Speaker 1>briefly and then point you to episodes where we have

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<v Speaker 1>taken a deeper dive into some of these topics, ANDIAMO,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get started. Our first question came through from deb

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. She wanted to know how to safely use

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<v Speaker 1>an airport ATM to withdraw cash, and how to tip

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<v Speaker 1>taxis when you arrive, and then how to tip taxi

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<v Speaker 1>drivers when you're there. These are some great questions that

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<v Speaker 1>we have answered in depth on some other episodes that

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<v Speaker 1>I'll mention in a minute, but the short answer here

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<v Speaker 1>is please do not use the airport ATMs. They are

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<v Speaker 1>before you leave, or use a bank ATM only. It's

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<v Speaker 3>Street when you get to Italy. But you know the.

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<v Speaker 1>Reality is that you do not need much cash when

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<v Speaker 1>on where I am going. Cards are really accepted everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and actually by law places need to take card payment.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually here in Australia we have different taxi apps, so

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating anyway. As far as the tipping goes, this can

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<v Speaker 1>tipping is not expected in Italy, but it is of

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<v Speaker 1>course appreciated. You can use the taxi apps to tip

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<v Speaker 1>episodes that go into these topics. Episode number seven is

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<v Speaker 1>about tipping in Italy. Episode number five is about taxis

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<v Speaker 1>About handling money and all of those things, and one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy two is arriving in Rome. We also

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<v Speaker 1>have a big article about Rome airport transfers on our website. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>these will be in the show notes, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>go and look into that a little bit further. Laurie

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<v Speaker 1>answer to deb helped you too to reiterate you do

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<v Speaker 1>I have a travel one and a backup credit card

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<v Speaker 1>and it works perfectly, and it has for many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many years. Laurie also asked about cell phone reception and

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<v Speaker 1>purchasing cards to assist with this, Laurie, unless you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be very remote, you're going up into the mountains

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<v Speaker 1>or some really non touristy areas, I wouldn't worry about

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<v Speaker 1>reception at all. I use my phone from home here

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia throughout Italy and have never had any problems,

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<v Speaker 1>I use the International Roaming Plan from my telecommunications company

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<v Speaker 1>and it's around five dollars a day, and it's similar

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<v Speaker 1>across most operators globally. You just need to watch how

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<v Speaker 1>much data you are using each day, but these days

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<v Speaker 3>Generous allowance, you know, at least a gigabyte.

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<v Speaker 3>You can also buy.

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<v Speaker 1>An international SIM if you're concerned about the cost, and

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<v Speaker 1>As the process to get a physical SIM is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of an die Mary in Italy. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>full breakdown of your options on our website article how

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<v Speaker 1>to use your cell Phone in Italy, and the link

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<v Speaker 1>will be in the show notes too. The next question

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<v Speaker 1>is from Kathleen, who is visiting Italy in September. She's

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<v Speaker 1>worried about train strikes and alternatives if she runs into one.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a very long train journey from Florence to Solano. Kathleen,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a great question because yes, one feature of

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<v Speaker 1>traveling in Italy is that you may need to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with train strikes. The good news is that these are

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<v Speaker 1>announced well in advance, and of course we keep our

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<v Speaker 1>untold Italy app users notified as they come up. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>the main high speed train routes are okay for travel,

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<v Speaker 1>but should you need a backup plan then the best

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<v Speaker 1>and most effective option is flicksbus.

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<v Speaker 1>Old Greyhound services of your nightmares. These are really comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>In this case, you would likely need to go to Rome.

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<v Speaker 1>And change bus from Florence, so you go from Florence

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<v Speaker 1>from Rome to Solano. But it is an option and

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<v Speaker 1>it would be from thirty euros. It's a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>deal actually, but you would need to keep an eye

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<v Speaker 1>be a strike, because there may be other people with

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<v Speaker 1>looking at around twelve hundred to fifteen hundred euros and

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<v Speaker 3>A price differential there, but it's worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing that there are multiple options. So we have more

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<v Speaker 1>website in an article that's called train strikes in Italy,

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're coming to a question.

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<v Speaker 1>Of pricing and the value of experiences, which I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was really interesting and worth sharing. ANAKA ask about the

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<v Speaker 1>pricing and value of private tours and group tours in

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<v Speaker 1>Rome and other cities in Europe and whether tipping was expected.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've done any research about experiences in Italy like

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<v Speaker 1>Colisseum tours, Vatican tours, you Fitzy tours, vesper tours and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>and all over the major cities of Europe and Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll know that they're are literally tens of thousands of options,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really can be quite overwhelming, even before you

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<v Speaker 1>get to the pricing and what's included.

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<v Speaker 3>So here is a good general rule of thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>If a tour or experiences is around fifty to seventy

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<v Speaker 1>euros per person, it's going to be a large group,

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<v Speaker 1>which is say over twenty people, and you'll be walking

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<v Speaker 1>around with headsets on and it's largely a logistics exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>You will get some information and things, but it won't

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<v Speaker 1>be very personal. People may not like that, but don't

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<v Speaker 1>underestimate how useful some logistics help is in a country

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<v Speaker 1>where nothing is particularly well marked or signposted. The next

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<v Speaker 1>pricing bracket takes you from around eighty to one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty euros per person, and that will be a

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<v Speaker 1>smaller group, perhaps as many as twelve to fifteen, but

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<v Speaker 1>it can be smaller and therefore it's more personal and

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<v Speaker 3>Easily and engage with your guide.

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<v Speaker 1>Next tours run by companies which can start at around

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty euros per person, and a great

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<v Speaker 1>example are our friends that live tours. They usually have

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<v Speaker 1>a base price that's fixed for a minimum of two people,

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<v Speaker 1>people to your tour. The advantage here is that they

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<v Speaker 1>With the respect to pricing, we do mainly post primarily

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<v Speaker 1>the go curated travel tips, restaurant recommendations and fun things

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<v Speaker 1>book my trip planning directly with Katie? Why doesn't Katie

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<v Speaker 1>lead the small group tours? And here's the honest truth,

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<v Speaker 3>About Katie Clark, and so it's no accident.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to include my team and you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast as much as possible. This is quite unique,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear from locals about their own country.

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<v Speaker 1>for Italians to talk to you here on the pod,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are very shy. If you know any Italians

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear from them. As for leading the tours, well,

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<v Speaker 3>Travel on tour. Lastly, the only.

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<v Speaker 1>They know so much more about many parts of Italy

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<v Speaker 1>And this is quite different from many other small group

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<v Speaker 1>more frequent travelers, Nancy wrote that we're going to Sicily

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally the time when the Christmas decorations go up and

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<v Speaker 1>everything starts looking spectacular. Italy does a superb door of Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>but they really don't advertise it very well or sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>even planet very well. One of our team told me

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<v Speaker 1>that in her village they had the Christmas events meeting

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<v Speaker 1>on the seventh of December last year, which, as I

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<v Speaker 1>just mentioned, the eighth of December is when things kick off.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to tell you about some things to

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<v Speaker 1>look out for, but we can't be precise on dates

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<v Speaker 1>because this is Italy and Sicily is a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little extra on all of that chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>Apart from December the eighth, the other big dates are

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<v Speaker 1>the thirteenth, which is the Feast of Santa Lucia Christmas Day,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the period through to January the sixth, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the Epiphany.

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<v Speaker 3>Palermo.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about Palermo because it's really worth

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<v Speaker 1>digging into some of the neighborhoods there, not just some

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<v Speaker 1>of the more obvious stuff, but Pialermo has a lovely

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas market and then the main ones usually at Piazza

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<v Speaker 1>castor Novo. But it's also worth visiting the main markets

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<v Speaker 1>at Caapo and Balaro as they get into the Christmas spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of fun there. It might not

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<v Speaker 1>be one hundred percent tasteful, but you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>the Christmas foods and.

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<v Speaker 3>Gaudy decorations and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you like to time things right and you love

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<v Speaker 1>music and theaters, some of the best shows that are

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<v Speaker 1>played throughout the year are on at Tiachra Masimo, which

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<v Speaker 1>is studying building in itself. A date to look out

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<v Speaker 1>for in particular is the thirteenth. In Palermo, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate Santoluccia so much, although they do traditionally abstain from

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<v Speaker 1>bread and pasta shock horror, but instead they celebrate Angina,

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<v Speaker 1>those delicious stuffed rice balls by eating lots of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Tisa is the old town of Siracusa. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite places in Italy and its patron saint

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<v Speaker 1>is Sante Licia, So hopefully you are there on the

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<v Speaker 1>thirteenth this This is one of the most important days

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<v Speaker 1>on their calendar, where they pay respects to the saint

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<v Speaker 1>with processions throughout the day and at night by candle light,

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<v Speaker 1>and the celebrations continue through until December the twenty first,

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<v Speaker 1>which is known as the octavepe Sante ly Chiir is

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<v Speaker 1>said to have ended a famine, so the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate is eating the cutcha cake that represents this miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's made with farrow and dried fruits. It's very rich

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<v Speaker 1>and very delicious. From there, you can probably visit a

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<v Speaker 1>town called Carta Gerona, and I'm going to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about that later, and that one

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<v Speaker 1>is a place that's really famous for ceramics. So in Taumina,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going, Piazza Dwarmo is the focal point of

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<v Speaker 1>the activities, and this is the same for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of little towns throughout Italy and Sicily, so you'll find

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<v Speaker 1>the main activities have outside the front of the churches.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think with some of these smaller towns it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to pay just to take things as they come

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't find out specific dates and when things

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<v Speaker 1>are on, because usually there will be a bonfire, which

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<v Speaker 1>is known as the zukata. And they also have often

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<v Speaker 1>Sicilian bagpipe players. And who knew that Sicily had bagpipe players,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do, and they also have them on the mainland,

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<v Speaker 1>or actually not the mainland, but Carpre and we have

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<v Speaker 1>another episode about Carfre at Christmas time, which listeners might

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<v Speaker 1>be interested in. In Telmina, they have this concept of

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<v Speaker 1>the living nativity, which is where real people play the

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the characters of the Christmas story and it

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<v Speaker 1>can be really quite moving. I think in Telmina it's

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<v Speaker 1>usually put up between Christmas and New Year, so you

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<v Speaker 1>might miss that one. But yeah, it's worthwhile looking for

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<v Speaker 1>these living nativity, which are known as presepe because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be really lovely and they put a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of effort into building the displays and obviously it's an

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<v Speaker 1>important touch point, touchstone for the communities of those towns.

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<v Speaker 1>I did mention Carterone first. This is also a town

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<v Speaker 1>that's known for lovely Christmas displays and it's known for ceramics,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, you can expect that to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the focal point because it is part of their

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<v Speaker 1>public artworks. So when you're there, we always update the

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<v Speaker 1>Untold Italy app with local events as soon as the

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<v Speaker 1>dates and details are known. Hopefully not on the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>of December, but you never know. Have a fabulous time

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<v Speaker 1>in Sicily, Nancy. I just think you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful time. The next question is from Michelle, who

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<v Speaker 1>said that they love their recent trip to Venice and

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<v Speaker 1>she really loved to return and she would like some

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<v Speaker 1>suggestions on two week trips that include Venice, maybe the Dolomites,

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<v Speaker 1>or Lake Garter or Lamarque or Bologna, Oh, Michelle, so

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<v Speaker 1>many options. I would say you can make a great

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<v Speaker 1>argument for spending more time in Venison, heading to Verona

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<v Speaker 1>and Lake Garda for a few days plus than adding

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<v Speaker 1>on the Dolomites.

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<v Speaker 3>Which needs at least a week.

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<v Speaker 1>And is it really a huge area, Especially if you

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<v Speaker 1>go as far west as Marano, you could easily spend

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<v Speaker 1>the two weeks just in the Dolomites. Another option is

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<v Speaker 1>to travel west to do a like a road trip

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<v Speaker 1>west and stop at all the beautiful lakes along the

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<v Speaker 1>way to Turin. My favorite is Lago Diota with the

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<v Speaker 1>Island of Silence in the middle, but obviously you also.

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<v Speaker 3>Have Garda, Como maggiore Is.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many, they're all beautiful, they're all different, and

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<v Speaker 1>the countryside is absolutely stunning. But there are also some

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful cities along the way too. People would think of Milan,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could also stop at Verona, Padua, Vicenza, Brescia, Bergamo.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things you can do in two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks if you're heading west. You could also head south

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<v Speaker 1>and do a loop through Amelia a month down the

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<v Speaker 1>coast to Ravenna, maybe drop into San Marino as it

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<v Speaker 1>is another country and that's always fun. Then you can

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<v Speaker 1>go across to Bologna, Moderna and Palma and up to Ferrara.

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<v Speaker 1>I could easily fit in two weeks here, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can also have the option of adding Lake Garda and

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<v Speaker 1>Verona into the loop for that one too. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I love about Italy, there's so many options.

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<v Speaker 1>Liz asked what are your favorite museums and cultural sites

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<v Speaker 1>in Genoa and also for the most cultural or art sites,

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<v Speaker 1>what are your thoughts on Padua, Ferrara and Mantua. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to this question, Liz, I love visiting cultural sites in

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<v Speaker 1>these smaller secondary cities as they are really busy and

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<v Speaker 1>of course full of the most magnificent things that you

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<v Speaker 1>can spend your time over and really soak in instead

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<v Speaker 1>of jostling with two hundred arms waving iPhones. Genoa is

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<v Speaker 1>really an up and coming destination. Well, I say that,

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<v Speaker 1>but the city once ruled the ways and it has

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<v Speaker 1>the palazzi to prove it, So I suggest it's visiting

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<v Speaker 1>the palazzi de Roli Unesco site. This is an open

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<v Speaker 1>air museum in the center of Genoa and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>collection of forty two buildings and homes of the city's

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<v Speaker 1>most powerful elite families, built between the sixteenth and seventeenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>On special days throughout the year, mainly spring and fall

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<v Speaker 1>or autumn, they have these days known as Rolly Days,

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<v Speaker 1>where the palaces are open free to the public. And

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<v Speaker 1>what you can expect there are the ornate rooms, frescoes,

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<v Speaker 1>sumptuous furnishing, artwork and more. It's really quite spectacular. Genoa

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those places that hides its treasures behind

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<v Speaker 1>very robust walls and sort of like innocuous environment. You

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<v Speaker 1>might think, oh, yeah, I don't know what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in this city, but it's one of those places we

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<v Speaker 1>really need to go looking and you will definitely find

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things to excite you about this city,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them are in this palazzi. And

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<v Speaker 1>as with any Italian city, the churches also worth a visit,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with a guide who can explain their cultural significance

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<v Speaker 1>as well as their religious importance. Being a port city,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of superstitions and stories about protecting

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<v Speaker 1>the seafaring citizens, so it's really worth having a duck

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<v Speaker 1>into at least a couple of churches to see what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. To answer your question on Padua for our Mantua,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go with Padua for its fourteenth century frescoes, including

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<v Speaker 1>some by Giotto. It's a lovely city with so many

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<v Speaker 1>architectural treasures, and there's a beautiful there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful piazzas actually, and a very large covered market which

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<v Speaker 1>is fun to visit. And if you're there in spring

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<v Speaker 1>and summer, you also have the option of taking a

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<v Speaker 1>river cruise to view the Veneto Palladian villas that are

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<v Speaker 1>actually a little closer to Vicenza, but it's something nice

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<v Speaker 1>to do. By the way, we do put all cultural

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<v Speaker 1>sites like this into the Untold Italy app for as

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<v Speaker 1>many small cities as we can, and we keep adding

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<v Speaker 1>to it because we want them there for ourselves. The

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<v Speaker 1>last question is from Eric, who sent me an absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic question, and he wanted to know where does one

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<v Speaker 1>find contemporary artists and crafts people in Florence. Eric is

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<v Speaker 1>a jeweler and sculptor himself, and I just love when

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<v Speaker 1>people lean into their own interests when planning their travels. Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>what I would say is that many of the artists

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<v Speaker 1>deploying traditional techniques will create more modern pieces using those

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<v Speaker 1>techniques as well, so it's worth ducking into their studios

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<v Speaker 1>to take a look. One that I absolutely love that

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<v Speaker 1>is like in Aladdin's Cave is jeweler Alessandro dari. I

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<v Speaker 1>always go there when I'm in Florence, and often his

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<v Speaker 1>workshop is open so you can see the creative process.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you want to have a buddy find the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes look, they do sometimes have tools and experiences to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and it's really worth it. He's making a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of historical inspired pieces, but also some really cool

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<v Speaker 1>steampunk type things, if you know what I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is incredible. This studio is just the untapped creativity

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming out of there is quite amazing. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go see some other contemporary art spaces, Palazzo

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<v Speaker 1>Strozzi is probably the best known contemporary museum or gallery,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can also take a look at Muza Novis

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<v Speaker 1>Centro and an up and coming artisan hub and contemporary

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<v Speaker 1>art space called Money for Tua Tabaki and I also like.

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<v Speaker 3>The female arts in Florence Hub.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, I also recently discovered an American woman doing a

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<v Speaker 1>very cool project at the moment to document the artisans

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<v Speaker 1>of Florence. The Instagram account is called the content Itelier

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really worth a look if you are a

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<v Speaker 1>nerd about beautifully handmade crafted things like Eric and I.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully I can get the creator on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>sooner or later because it's very interesting project.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's all for this Q and A episode. Folks.

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<v Speaker 3>We sure have.

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<v Speaker 1>Covered a lot of ground here. I hope you have

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<v Speaker 1>found it as interesting as I did. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>main takeaway for me is something I've known for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time but that continues to surprise me. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's how diverse Italy is, and that if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a passion for something, that you can definitely follow that

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<v Speaker 1>passion while you are there and make a trip as

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and as varied and as detailed as you like.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, we put the transcript and detailed show notes

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<v Speaker 1>on our website at Untold Italy dot com. Forward slash

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<v Speaker 1>three three three for episode number three hundred and thirty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure to hear our pod with your Italy loving

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<v Speaker 1>friends and download our podcast guide if you don't quite

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<v Speaker 1>know where to start or you're looking for something specific.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week we are headed to the beautiful island of

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<v Speaker 1>Sir Daniel, but until then it's chowfaow.

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<v Speaker 3>The Untold Italy Podcast is an independent production podcast editing,

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<v Speaker 3>audio production and website development by Mark Hatter, Production assistance

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<v Speaker 3>and content writing by the other kJ Clark. Yes there

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<v Speaker 3>are two of us.

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<v Speaker 1>For more information about Untold Italy, please visit Untold Italy

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<v Speaker 1>dot com.
