1 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:18,719 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Surely Can't Be Serious podcast, 2 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,800 discussing and debating the iconic and the forgotten of eighties 3 00:00:22,839 --> 00:00:26,440 and nineties pop culture with your co hosts James D. 4 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Graves and Jason Colban. 5 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: That is awesome, awesome as such a good introduction. I 6 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,640 don't think we can follow that. 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,079 Speaker 2: I'm not sure we can live up to it, but 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,479 we're gonna have a good time trying to. 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do our best. Thank you very much, Jet 10 00:00:42,799 --> 00:00:46,679 Thomason for doing the voiceover on the introduction for us. 11 00:00:46,679 --> 00:00:50,479 Fantastic work. We appreciate everything you do and we love 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,799 your podcast as well. Limo's and Roses the Bachelor's podcast 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,600 with his wife Chelsea. And we're here to do our 14 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,640 podcast first episode. Super excited, me too, Me too. How 15 00:01:01,679 --> 00:01:03,560 you doingdeed, I'm awesome. How are you doing? 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I can't wait to dive into the 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,840 eighties and nineties stuff that we're going to talk about. 18 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: So we talk about the things that we loved when 19 00:01:11,239 --> 00:01:13,959 we were kids. It's something that I'm sure most of 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,120 you do as well. We talk about the things that 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,200 bring back emotions and passion and excitement and bring us 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,079 back to the way we felt when we were young, 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,719 because we like feeling that way again. 24 00:01:25,879 --> 00:01:28,719 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. We're going to talk about movies. 25 00:01:28,719 --> 00:01:32,159 We're going to talk about music. We may compare and 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,040 trust people or events or different things, but. 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,719 Speaker 3: We typically agree on things. We like each other, and 28 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:41,920 so that means that we tend to agree on things, 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,359 but we don't always agree. 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,159 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, So sometimes we have to settle 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,640 an argument that's right. 32 00:01:48,239 --> 00:01:50,239 Speaker 3: We may have that today. Yeah, what are we doing today? 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: So today we're going to talk about and compare Michael 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,159 Jackson's Thriller album versus Michael Jackson's Bad album. 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I don't think there's a comparison there because 36 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:01,799 Thriller is obviously the best album. It's the number one 37 00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:04,079 sellar in history of music. It is. 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,959 Speaker 2: But everybody tricks themselves into believing that Thriller is a 39 00:02:06,959 --> 00:02:10,199 better album when Bad is actually a better album. 40 00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: I thought we said we were not going to be 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,080 haters about this, so now I'm tricking myself that was happening. 42 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: Thriller is fantastic. I mean, Thriller is a great album 43 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:20,960 and really one of my favorites. 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: And Bad is a great album in one of my favorites, 45 00:02:22,599 --> 00:02:24,360 but there is no way that you can think that 46 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:25,800 Bad is better than Thriller. 47 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm going to explain why Bad is better 48 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:30,840 than Thriller, and hopefully I can get you to agree 49 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:32,840 with me, maybe some other people to agree with me 50 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:33,240 as well. 51 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I think that if you guys want to 52 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,919 take part in this argument, that is what we're all about. 53 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:41,159 Why don't you tell them where they can tweet us? 54 00:02:41,479 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: All right, so we would love to hear your thoughts 55 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,199 and whether you agree or disagree, follow us on Twitter 56 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,120 at Suirly Podcast on Twitter. 57 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: Okay, so, now you said that you love Thriller. Obviously, 58 00:02:55,039 --> 00:02:57,439 Thriller came out before Bad, five years before Bad came 59 00:02:57,439 --> 00:02:59,879 out in nineteen eighty two. Bad came out in nineteen 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,080 eighty seven. What do you remember from when you heard Thriller? 61 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:08,039 Speaker 2: Okay, So, Thriller to me is elementary school. That's my 62 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:12,080 fourth and fifth grade year, and I remember roller skating 63 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:15,759 to those songs and hearing them at basketball games. And 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,439 people that at my elementary school will be shocked to 65 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,719 hear that I'm preferable to Bad because I was very 66 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:28,240 much a Thriller mega fan in fourth and fifth grade. 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 3: Okay, so the kids, who's who's your teacher? 68 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,439 Speaker 2: My teacher, mister Hoover, my fifth grade teacher. I bet 69 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:37,919 you if we found him today called him up, he 70 00:03:37,919 --> 00:03:40,759 would be like, there's no way Jason was mister Thriller. 71 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,479 Speaker 3: Okay, can somebody get mister Hoover on the line. 72 00:03:42,479 --> 00:03:45,719 Speaker 2: Please, I'm telling you call in the podcast. If we 73 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:46,560 had a phone, you could call it. 74 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, would be neat if you could do call on. Well, 75 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,960 I'm excited to talk about how I got there as well. 76 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:07,520 Let's let's keep on going. All right, Well, let me 77 00:04:07,919 --> 00:04:10,199 let me tell you about my experience. So I was 78 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:15,039 born in seventy five, so I was six to seven 79 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,680 years old the first experience that I had with Michael Jackson, 80 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,240 and I tell everybody that that Thriller was my first 81 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:26,800 LP to own. But in kind of going back and 82 00:04:26,959 --> 00:04:29,160 looking at things, I remember there was one LP, but 83 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:32,279 I don't really count it as great of an LP 84 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:37,800 as it was. It was the Chipmunk Punk had Chipmunk Punk, 85 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,399 which has literally no punk on it at all, but 86 00:04:40,519 --> 00:04:42,800 it has it has some of the greatest songs of 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,199 that time, including songs from Queen and Blondie. 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,519 Speaker 2: Maybe some time we can debate whether or not the 89 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,040 Chipmunks were actually punk or not. 90 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were definitely not. So. The first adult album 91 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,199 that I ever owned, the first adult LP I owned, 92 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:05,000 was Thriller, and I can remember very clearly, was watching 93 00:05:05,079 --> 00:05:10,199 TV and I saw the motown where the Jackson's got 94 00:05:10,199 --> 00:05:12,839 together again time. Michael Jackson wasn't going to come like 95 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:14,759 he and his brothers I guess had had a falling 96 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,959 out and so he wasn't even going to show up, 97 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:21,079 but they begged him. He said, let me do a 98 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,839 couple of solos and and I'll agree to do this. 99 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: Is this the infamous moonwalk Billy Jean? 100 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes, absolutely so, after the Jackson's get done 101 00:05:31,079 --> 00:05:33,120 with their set, which I don't remember any of it all. 102 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:35,800 I mean, the only thing that I can have a 103 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,720 clear memory of, despite my extreme young age, is him 104 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,279 singing and then the dance that he did when he 105 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,720 hit the moonwalk and the crowd erupted. I said to myself, 106 00:05:49,720 --> 00:06:23,519 I want to be that guy. 107 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,959 Speaker 2: Did you have that on record? 108 00:06:26,079 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 3: Or I had the LP and I had the vinyl LP. 109 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:33,759 Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha? So I had it on tape I had 110 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,319 it on tape, which this is how old I am. 111 00:06:37,519 --> 00:06:40,959 My buddy had it on record LP and you could 112 00:06:40,959 --> 00:06:44,920 actually open it up and there was drawings that Michael 113 00:06:44,959 --> 00:06:47,959 Jackson had done himself on the inside, and I remember 114 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,240 I had to unfold the tape, but there were other 115 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:52,240 strong thinking. 116 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the tape paper. 117 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: It was always a disappointment, I know, I know, I remember. 118 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,839 I don't remember all of them. I do remember the 119 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,720 Girl is Mine. It had a picture of Michael and 120 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,519 Paul sort of like pulling on the girl, you know, 121 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,800 like a wishboner. 122 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, I don't remember that at all. I remember 123 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,439 the front cover was what everybody saw, which was him 124 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:14,639 kind of posed in that awesome white jacket and that 125 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:18,120 awesome black background. He and he's like almost glowing, and 126 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,399 he's got the cool little leopard the leopard handkerchief in 127 00:07:21,439 --> 00:07:24,279 his pocket. And then when you opened it up, you're like, oh, 128 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,319 he's actually got a tiger on his knee, like there's 129 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:29,560 a baby tiger there. Ah. Yeah, they didn't do anything wrong. 130 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,319 Even the album design is flawless on that. 131 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was amazing. 132 00:07:33,879 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: It was amazing. 133 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:39,439 Speaker 2: So Thriller was released November thirtieth, nineteen eighty two. 134 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,639 Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty two, it was when we started doing Valley 135 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:47,120 Girl Talk, grody to the max and totally tubular gag 136 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:49,199 me with the spoon, the guy who'm doing it, the 137 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,680 delareate gloriate. Yes, he got busted. He got busted in 138 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,959 eighty two. I guess the DeLorean business was not going 139 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,720 as well as he wanted it to and he got 140 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:03,680 caught with about twenty million dollars worth of cocaine. And 141 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,720 that was the end of the DeLorean car Or was 142 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:08,959 it roads? 143 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: Well, we're going we don't need roads. 144 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:18,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, until nineteen eighty five, when the greatest movie of 145 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:19,800 the eighties was released. 146 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,439 Speaker 2: Surely can't be serious, Yes, all. 147 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:30,319 Speaker 3: Right, don't know That summer was the release of another huge, 148 00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:35,240 huge movie. Yes, Et. 149 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: Et, I remember seeing Et. Well, go ahead, yeah, I mean, 150 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,399 we'll talk about Et in later episodes hopefully, But I 151 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,600 remember just wasn't just an avalanche of e t that 152 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,559 summer and just out of control. I saw it many 153 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:08,120 times in the movie theater. I remember taking my mom. 154 00:09:08,159 --> 00:09:09,600 Then I wanted to take my dad and take my 155 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:14,600 sister and take my friend and so ET big big 156 00:09:14,639 --> 00:09:20,919 at the box office that summer. 157 00:09:21,799 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: The music for that year. It sucked. Looking at the 158 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,799 music from nineteen eighty two is terrible, Like the biggest 159 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,000 the biggest thing was Ebony and Ivory, which was was 160 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:42,879 I remember that and I liked that song kind of yeah, yeah, 161 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,960 I know how you feel about those duets with Paul McCartney. 162 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: I am doc ken, you are live blind. 163 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: But I love rock and roll, which was kind of 164 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,240 it was. It was the end of the disco era 165 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,399 and rock and roll was coming back. So I love 166 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,200 rock and roll. I loved going to pizza parlor and 167 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,039 I would hear Pink Floyd, I would hear Queen Hero. 168 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:13,759 I love rock and roll every single time we went 169 00:10:13,799 --> 00:10:19,919 to the to the pizza parlor. And so yeah, music terrible. Yeah, 170 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:36,200 until yes, November of nineteen eighty two, Yes, when Thriller was. 171 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: Released swamped everything. 172 00:10:38,039 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And so I think we're probably getting into 173 00:10:42,879 --> 00:10:45,679 the meat of things now. So let's let's talk about that. 174 00:10:45,759 --> 00:10:51,000 Let's we'll say, okay, first the track listing for Thriller. 175 00:10:51,919 --> 00:10:55,840 We've got I want to be starting something, Baby be Mine, 176 00:10:55,879 --> 00:10:59,600 the Girl is Mine, Thriller, and then on the other side, 177 00:10:59,639 --> 00:11:01,879 you've got beat It, You've got Billy Jean you've got 178 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,159 human nature and you've got pyt and the Lady in 179 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,240 My Life. Some of those you're like, I don't remember 180 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,039 that song. Yeah, I didn't either. That's okay. Those are 181 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,440 the ones that I skipped whenever. And they had to 182 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:16,919 very carefully move the needle from that song back over 183 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,519 to the beginning of Beat It Right right. The first 184 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,279 song that was actually released from the album was released 185 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:33,240 before the album was against and so what happened was 186 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,039 they're trying to put together this album. They give Paul 187 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,200 McCartney a call and Michael Jackson's like. 188 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 4: Michael Jackson speak McCarty's Paul McCarty's like, who is this Jackson, 189 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,039 He's like, he didn't believe it, and which is the 190 00:11:51,039 --> 00:11:53,120 same thing happens a little bit later on to Beat It. 191 00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:56,799 Speaker 3: But finally he's like, oh, this really is Michael Jackson. 192 00:11:57,159 --> 00:11:58,879 He says, you would just come over with the word song, 193 00:11:59,279 --> 00:12:01,440 so sure, so they could go over a course song. 194 00:12:02,279 --> 00:12:09,399 They do this ridiculous the Dogot Girl is Mine, and 195 00:12:10,919 --> 00:12:13,559 they put it out and it's a hit. It's a hit. 196 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,000 It's a big hit, like. 197 00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 2: It was what did. It reached number two on the 198 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,960 Hot one hundred that's nice with no video support either, 199 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,759 just kind of a release, right. 200 00:12:23,399 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's the continuation. We've got MTV Ladies and 201 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:40,559 Gentlemen Rock and Roller. So MTV had just come out 202 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,440 the year before. It just came out in August of 203 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,120 eighty one, and so they're looking for I mean, there's 204 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,960 only two hundred and fifty videos in existence in eighty 205 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,799 two that they're just recycling over and over, so they're 206 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,440 trying to get more stuff. So they're excited about what 207 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,120 they can do with Michael Jackson because. 208 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,039 Speaker 2: Well, no, wait, amene. So the only thing that I'm 209 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,000 wondering is when Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson did a 210 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:17,039 song called Say Say Say Say Say Say too long game. Yes, 211 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,360 that had a video with it. 212 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the one where they're dressing up like clowns 213 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:21,279 and stuff like that. 214 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a traveling service. 215 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,519 Speaker 3: I don't think that came out until later. But I 216 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,559 don't know. I don't I don't think. I do not 217 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:28,440 think they had recorded together. 218 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: Well, I know that's not another thriller album. 219 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: No it's not. I don't know that it was released. 220 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:35,200 It may have been on a maybe it was on 221 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,279 a Paul McCartney album. 222 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, here you go, it says Michael Jackson. Paul McCartney 223 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,759 recorded Say Say Say and another song called the Man 224 00:13:44,879 --> 00:13:48,679 for his fifth solo album, Pipes of Peace, that was 225 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,039 released in nineteen eighty three. 226 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,159 Speaker 3: So I guess Pipes of Peace right, Well, you know, 227 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,000 one of the best. 228 00:13:53,799 --> 00:13:58,039 Speaker 2: Albums of these types of peace. So that was released 229 00:13:58,039 --> 00:13:59,759 in nineteen eighty three, so I guess that was after 230 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:00,679 guy's mind. 231 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: So okay, go, So girl is mine. Now the pressure's 232 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:06,919 on to get these things, this song out, so let's 233 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,360 just just real quick we can. I just want to 234 00:14:09,399 --> 00:14:13,639 throw this out there. So Thriller has obviously Michael Jackson, 235 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,919 and this is obviously a collaborative effort. But we've got 236 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:21,919 Sir Paul McCartney. Yes, then we've got Eddie van Halen. Yes. 237 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,000 Do you know who the band was that was playing 238 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:24,360 the music? 239 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: Total? 240 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:38,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, guys from Total. That's exactly right. I mean they're 241 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:42,679 the most skilled guys playing music at the time, which 242 00:14:42,879 --> 00:14:45,240 I mean is appropriate. But it's kind of funny, you know. 243 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,200 I don't think I would know any of those guys 244 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:49,120 if I saw him in walmart. 245 00:14:49,039 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: No, no, no chance. 246 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:58,159 Speaker 3: No. And they've got which is you know, for some 247 00:14:58,559 --> 00:15:01,440 I still cannot figure out how that researched like it has. 248 00:15:01,799 --> 00:15:06,879 So they heard the Paul McCartney song and they heard 249 00:15:06,879 --> 00:15:08,559 Dog on Girl's Mind and they fell out of their 250 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,799 chair laughing. But who knows from good taste, I guess 251 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:14,879 because it was big and the pressure is on to 252 00:15:14,879 --> 00:15:18,080 get this done, and they recorded Thriller in eight weeks. 253 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:24,159 They've got a couple of guys. Bruce Sweden I believe 254 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,279 is his last name, Rod Timbleton, Quincy Jones, and Michael 255 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,919 Jackson are the four bodies in one brain behind Thriller. 256 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,600 They're trying to get this thing that they call the 257 00:15:34,679 --> 00:15:38,840 sonic sound, like it's the crisp sound, and that is 258 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:41,440 That's one of the things I remember the most. You 259 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:45,759 listen to stuff before and after Thriller and you're like, 260 00:15:45,799 --> 00:15:48,879 why does this sound so kind of foggy and muted 261 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:52,080 and stuff like that. It's because they didn't have that 262 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:54,120 sonic sound, and these guys were trying to do it. 263 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:58,200 And after eight weeks of recording, they listened to it 264 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,279 and Michael Jackson walks up and they find them in 265 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,120 the room across the hall sobbing because it doesn't sound right, 266 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,840 and so for the next three days they remix and 267 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:11,639 re record or then re record. They remixed the entire album. 268 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:17,080 So here's the thing. It's too much music, it's too long. 269 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,399 And what happens when you try to pack in a 270 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:23,840 whole bunch of stuff on those LPs is the grooves 271 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,840 get tighter and tighter, and so you lose all of 272 00:16:26,879 --> 00:16:30,919 the little pinks and pops and make it exciting. They 273 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:36,720 remixed it all and gave us that sound, which is thriller. 274 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we also talked about I was talking to 275 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:45,440 you earlier. It was very nearly not thriller. It was 276 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,360 almost called starlight. 277 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: Starlight, Yes, the. 278 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: Starlight you know, just doesn't have the same ring as thriller. 279 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Definitelyempleton's the one that came up with the title 280 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,440 track title of the album. He's quiz, He's like, this 281 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:22,839 is this is good, but it's not quite what we need, 282 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,599 you know, think something else, work on it. And he 283 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:28,400 said he woke up the next morning and it just 284 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:30,240 was the word in his head. It was just thriller. 285 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,160 And he said he could see it on the billboards, 286 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,240 he could see it on the marquee, he could see 287 00:17:35,279 --> 00:17:37,039 the Thriller, and he was like, this is it. This 288 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,480 is the name of the album. And then I mean 289 00:17:39,519 --> 00:17:43,440 they're literally weeks into production, like they haven't even written 290 00:17:43,559 --> 00:17:46,279 the song yet. They've written some other song called Starlight, 291 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,559 and so they're back at it again. So they they 292 00:17:49,599 --> 00:17:53,079 put these songs, they put the right words to thriller, 293 00:17:53,759 --> 00:17:55,400 and then they're like, Okay, there's got to be a 294 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,799 rap at the end. Yes, it has to be a rap, 295 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,119 talking about all the contributors to the album, right, And 296 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,759 they're like, okay, well, we don't know who's going to 297 00:18:02,839 --> 00:18:04,480 do the rap, and we haven't written the rap yet, 298 00:18:04,559 --> 00:18:07,559 and and Quincy Jones is like, you know, my wife 299 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:12,799 knows Vincent Price and like, okay, call him up. 300 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:13,559 Speaker 2: Let's get him in here. 301 00:18:13,599 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so he calls him next day, he's like, hey, 302 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:18,640 he's on the way over, and Rod Templeton's like in 303 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,720 the taxi. He's like, I haven't even written the rap yet, 304 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:24,920 And so he writes it like freaking Abraham Lincoln on 305 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:31,319 an envelope. He's writing the rap on the way and 306 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:35,599 he like he gets there, he sees the limo pull up, 307 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,559 he sees Vincent Price get out of the limo, and 308 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,480 so he runs around back, throws it to a receptionist 309 00:18:42,519 --> 00:18:45,960 and says, copy this for me, And so she does 310 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,680 a quick what don't know what they were. They weren't 311 00:18:48,759 --> 00:18:50,519 xerox is back then it was like a photo cup, 312 00:18:50,599 --> 00:18:53,759 you know. Yeah, And so she does that and puts 313 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:55,519 it on the stand just as Price comes into the 314 00:18:55,559 --> 00:19:01,640 recording studio. Yes, in the mid tight hour. 315 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 5: Its closive haird the creatures all in the search of blood, 316 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:13,599 the terrorized all the neighborhood. And who's, however, shall be 317 00:19:13,759 --> 00:19:20,400 found without the cells or getting down stab and makes 318 00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:28,319 the holm was like hell and rocked inside a corpse shell. 319 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: And he does like two takes, two takes, It's done. 320 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: You know how much he was paid for that? Nothing 321 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,319 less than one thousand dollars. Yeah, less than one thousand dollars. 322 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,799 And it was heard on every radio station around the 323 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:44,119 world for the next three Christmases. 324 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: Right, Well, he and Eddie need to get together. I guess. 325 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,319 I think Eddie got like a couple of cases of beer, Like, 326 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,039 I mean, he really he got nothing. 327 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: I did read a little bit that Vinzi Price was 328 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,960 not pleased that they didn't give him more money. 329 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: About that he kind of had an insurgence of fame, 330 00:20:02,839 --> 00:20:04,559 and I would think that I would have ourself. 331 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,759 Speaker 2: With lines like the funk of forty thousand years. How 332 00:20:08,759 --> 00:20:09,519 can we go wrong? 333 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, okay two. 334 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: Takes less than a thousand bucks. 335 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: Okay, before we go any further, can we just take 336 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,119 a minute and do a Potter and Family shout out? 337 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:21,799 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 338 00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:26,839 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Okay. Podcasters are a very supportive community. We've received 339 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,200 support from so many out there, and there are some 340 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,880 that we love and we'd like to give support to absolutely. 341 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,319 Speaker 2: So today we want to recognize the guys at the 342 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,079 thirty something Movie podcast. 343 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: They take movies that are thirty years in the making 344 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,519 and they do an analysis of the movie to say, yeah, 345 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:44,759 this is a movie that you should revisit or no, 346 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,359 it's okay, you don't have to come back and see 347 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,240 this again right now. 348 00:20:47,319 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. So they've been doing it for about 349 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,759 five years or so. They are now entering nineteen ninety. 350 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, the nineties decade has just begun, and I'm super 351 00:20:56,599 --> 00:20:58,799 excited to hear what they have. They've been so supportive 352 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:02,640 of everything that we've done and we love what they do. Yeah, 353 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,400 me too, Thanks guys, We really appreciate Illinois contingent. Okay, 354 00:21:06,519 --> 00:21:09,359 so let's do you want to go into track by track? Now, 355 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,880 let's go track by track. Okay, So let's we're gonna 356 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,200 look at the singles. 357 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: All right, Well wait a minute, wait a minute, let's 358 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,799 let's go album. Let's go hold out, hold out, hold album. 359 00:21:19,039 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so we start with want to be 360 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,359 Starting Something? Yes, what did you tell me about want 361 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:25,720 to be starting? 362 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:30,839 Speaker 2: So pop in the tape or the album whatever? Three 363 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:38,039 beats in that first little right that that drum track, 364 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,400 I'm in. I'm totally in. I want to be Starting something. 365 00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:47,119 It's fantastic, right, And then just from that track alone, 366 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:52,240 so you've got that great groove the beginning maybe maybe 367 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,119 the best first track of any album of. 368 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 3: All right, because it's want to be Starting. 369 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,759 Speaker 2: Something, right, and it just it kicks off the album. 370 00:21:59,799 --> 00:22:01,920 It's h here we go, let's get it on. 371 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:02,839 Speaker 3: Uh. 372 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: And then you you close with the now infamous Mama 373 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,480 se Mama Sama macraso. 374 00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:20,079 Speaker 3: Right do we do? You know what that means? No? 375 00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:21,160 I have no idea. 376 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,559 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, what's your what's your take on 377 00:22:24,599 --> 00:22:24,839 that one? 378 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,559 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I mean that the I think that the 379 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,119 what what he did with the combination of sounds there. 380 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:36,000 He's got obviously the jazz influence with Quincy Jones going on. 381 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,480 It's got that kind of Caribbean feel about it, and 382 00:22:39,839 --> 00:22:43,039 a little African yeah, and an African mix. He's definitely 383 00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:45,640 you've got those the rhythms that you didn't have before. 384 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,640 Like you said, those drum beats, but with that crisper 385 00:22:50,079 --> 00:22:53,359 sharper sound, it just can't be beat. Yeah. 386 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:57,079 Speaker 2: Great, great track. Great. Oh it actually reached number five 387 00:22:57,839 --> 00:23:02,279 on the Hot one hundred. Okay, no video, but still 388 00:23:02,319 --> 00:23:05,599 released as a single, did very well and with five yeah, right, 389 00:23:05,839 --> 00:23:06,880 very very strong showing. 390 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: All right. 391 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:19,759 Speaker 3: Okay, so next track is Baby Be Mine, which I skipped. Yeah, 392 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,480 let's skip it. 393 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,759 Speaker 2: It's it's junk. Yeah, it actually to me, it's it's 394 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,000 disci It sounds like it belongs on off the wall. 395 00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: Right, it's definitely it's it's got more of the horns 396 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,000 and jazz stuff that I really don't want to Yeah. 397 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: It for me, that's a I had a little boombox 398 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:43,200 that if play was down, you can get fast forward 399 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:49,799 and you get that. That's what Yeah, that's what baby 400 00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:52,039 Be Mine sounds like in my head, right, right, I 401 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:55,160 did listen to it for this podcast, and I still 402 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,319 think it's John but okay. 403 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely throw away track in my mind as well. 404 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,000 And the next one is the Girl is Mine, which we've 405 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,000 already talked about, right, and it's simple it is. It 406 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:13,599 is a catchy tune. It is goofy lyrics. 407 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 2: The dog on Girl is Mine. Yeah, the dog on 408 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,119 Girl is Mine. And Paul I told you, I'm a lover, 409 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,400 not a fighter, dude. 410 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: That's the best part. 411 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: Of the Oh my gosh, Okay, I love Thriller, but 412 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:34,920 this one okay, so but it did reach number two 413 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,559 in the Hot one hunder right, so clearly a smash it. 414 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 3: I at seven years old, thought it was fantastic. I 415 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,119 still like listen, I know every word I told when 416 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,400 we you know, we said, Hey, we're doing this, I said, 417 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,559 And we both listened to the each album beginning to end. 418 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,759 When I walked away, that was the song that was 419 00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:54,960 still in my head. It wasn't Thriller, it wasn't beat It, 420 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,440 it wasn't Billy Jean. It was the Girl is Mine, 421 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:04,640 because yeah, freaking Beatles know how to make you okay. 422 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,400 And then we've got Thrill, which I mean, we've already 423 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,319 talked about the making of Right, so the electronic and 424 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,759 syntheseticthetic music that was coming at the time kind of 425 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,079 left me cold most of the time. But these guys 426 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:22,519 took it and made it something amazing. It's fantastic, like 427 00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:27,079 you're walking into walking into space. I mean, it's just 428 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,039 those beginning pure It's just it's too cool. 429 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: You've got you've got slamming doors, you've got creaky doors, 430 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:42,000 you've got howling wolves, you know, and then you've got 431 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,519 the dun. 432 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,039 Speaker 5: You know. 433 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: It's it's so good, it's so good. It's well. This 434 00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:55,960 was the last single released, only made it to number four, 435 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,000 which is crazy to. 436 00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: Me, totally great. 437 00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:08,759 Speaker 2: It's insane for this song to have this kind of 438 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,640 life right and never make it to number. 439 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 3: One, I know, and you will even to this day, 440 00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:18,960 you will see people recreating the song the dance that 441 00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:21,759 was done in the video, which, by the way, that 442 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,440 video was like the timing of MTV and Michael Jackson's 443 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,440 release of Thriller, and also I would like to mention 444 00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:34,839 the release of American Werewolf in London. Jack all came 445 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:40,480 together in this beautiful, perfect power of notice. It was amazing. 446 00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:45,440 So they're wanting to make this video and the CBS 447 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:47,960 is like, no, we're selling a ton of these. We 448 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,680 don't need to sell more. I mean, we can't make 449 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,160 them as fast as we're selling them. Why would we 450 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,319 want to release another single? So they didn't want to 451 00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:57,839 release the single and so that so they have to 452 00:26:57,839 --> 00:26:59,200 figure out how are we going to pay for the 453 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:01,720 video if the CBS isn't willing to pay for the 454 00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:03,640 video and we know that we want to blow it 455 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,960 out of the water with John Landis directing, and this 456 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,440 really great. I mean they changed the way, they changed 457 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,000 the way of videos, which was a weird, a weird 458 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,480 thing to say looking back and thinking, oh, video has 459 00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:17,920 really only been going on about a year, right, it was? 460 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,200 It was unlike anything ever done. So they go to 461 00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:23,319 MTV and they say, we would like you to pay 462 00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:27,920 for it, and MTV says, we can't do that. I 463 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,319 mean we start making we start making videos for artists, 464 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,079 We're going to lose those, yah. And so they what 465 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,480 they said is will agree to finance the making of 466 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,960 thriller and then you can use the proceeds from that 467 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,640 as the money to make the video of thriller. Interesting 468 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,200 I don't even know how that works. Well. 469 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,279 Speaker 2: So okay, so wait when you're talking about the video 470 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,240 directed by John Landis right, the same guy who did 471 00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:58,359 American World for London. 472 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: He also did National Lampoo, his Animal House. 473 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 2: Animal House Training places, right, I mean he's done some 474 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,480 some big time movie. Rick Baker did the makeup for. 475 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 3: This, right, Rick Baker of Star Wars fan. 476 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,279 Speaker 2: Star Wars America from London. So he did all the 477 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,359 transformative you know, changing Michael into her, well, changing Michael 478 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,200 into zombie. 479 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: So you've got the video, you've got the Playboy model. 480 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,240 Do you remember her name? 481 00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:34,079 Speaker 2: Her name was Ola ray Ray. 482 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,599 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, beautiful. 483 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: I didn't know she was in Playboy though, So what. 484 00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: Are we going to do now? Oh yeah, yeah, that's 485 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,200 Google's arch No, I'm just kidding. And they completely redo 486 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,000 the song in order to fit the video. I mean 487 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:50,440 they don't did, Yeah, that's right. And so you've got 488 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,079 this long that dance sequence. Michael's totally zombie down. 489 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: You remember about Thriller, I was just gonna make mention 490 00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:00,000 of it. So I was curious about this. I don't 491 00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:01,400 know if anybody else to be curious about this, But 492 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,319 so Thriller was not never made it to number one 493 00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:06,680 on the Hot one hundred, right. So I'm like, immediately 494 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,119 when I see this, I'm like, what in the heck 495 00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:12,319 kept it out of the number one spot? What songs 496 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:15,119 are good enough to keep Thriller out of the number 497 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,519 one spot? So I went back and I and I 498 00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:19,839 went to Billboard and I found it so so Thriller 499 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,200 made it to number four, right, So these three kept 500 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,839 Thriller out of the number one. Man, they're so good. 501 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what justified it is? 502 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:33,559 Speaker 2: It almost is so number one. The week that Thriller 503 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:36,119 peaked at number four, number one was jumped by Van Halen. 504 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:42,359 I justified, Yeah, justified Eighties iconic song Okay, number two 505 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,759 ninety nine affluents by Nina Right, great song, great sonic 506 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,920 right yep? Okay number three Yes, girls Just want to 507 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,119 have Fun by Cyndi Lauper once again. 508 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you've defined the eighties in four. 509 00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: Songs, that's right, songs. If that's all you know about that, 510 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,640 you've got a pretty good handle. 511 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:04,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because you've got your one hit wonder 512 00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:07,319 in there. Yes, you've got the rock and roll band 513 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,440 that dominated MTV with their just absurd we're just standing 514 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:19,279 on stage singing and dancing and jumping and being crazy 515 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:19,759 as well. 516 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: Just jump. 517 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,039 Speaker 3: There's really literally nothing in the video, but man, that 518 00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:25,480 thing was on all the time because it was just 519 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:28,680 awesome to watch them, which speaks to how good David 520 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,079 Lee Roth is. By the way, we'll. 521 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,759 Speaker 2: Cover that later. He's great, he's great. You're absolutely right. 522 00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: And you never knew whether you're going to get English 523 00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:41,400 and what was the originally Germany? 524 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife and I had a conversation about this 525 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,960 that she loves to remind me of. What's so ninety 526 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:51,079 nine left Balloons is clearly the German version. 527 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: Right. 528 00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:55,519 Speaker 2: We had an argument one time and I felt like, man, 529 00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:59,640 I know eighties music, and to me that song is 530 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,440 in is English and she's like, no, it's like German 531 00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:06,839 or something. I'm like, no, it's English. So we have 532 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,839 this anyway. She loves to rub it my face. 533 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,759 Speaker 3: Well, it's both, it's both. I mean they sang it 534 00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:16,240 in both English and German. You're both right. That's a win. 535 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:22,279 And if you're arguing with your wife, that's a definite way. 536 00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: So anyway, So Thriller is the fourth track on the album. 537 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,319 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, So and my I don't know what happened 538 00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:34,240 to me when I was a kid, but the way 539 00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:37,240 that things started on that album for me was beat It. 540 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,960 Like somehow I played side to first. Maybe I just 541 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:43,480 saw that Thriller was the final side on one thing, 542 00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:45,599 and so I thought, Okay, that's the end song, right, 543 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,000 beat It has to be the first song. Because at 544 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,799 that time beat It was huge, huge. They had kind 545 00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:55,319 of said, hey, we need a rock song. Quincy Jones 546 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:01,160 goes to Michael Jackson and plays him My Sharona and 547 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,119 he's like, we need something like this, we need a 548 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,680 rock rock song. And Michael says, I've got something. I 549 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,279 don't have the lyrics yet, I'll get it. Comes back 550 00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:12,519 the next day, has it has the song, and it 551 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:23,599 rocks and them out. I mean, there's no question about it. 552 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,880 This is a rock song. This is not the disco 553 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,759 of Off the Wall, This is not the jazz of 554 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:34,400 Quincy Jones. This is Michael Jackson rocking the heck out 555 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,480 of the song. Fantastic. And then the video is this 556 00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:41,759 kind of dirty, gritty, uh you know, you kind of 557 00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:43,559 look back on it now and it looks a little cheesy, 558 00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:45,279 but at the time it was like, oh, these are 559 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,440 you know, these are the gangs of. 560 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: New York, no doubt, but they were actual gangs. Other 561 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:53,519 than certain dancers, they had real gang members on the set. 562 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 3: So that the guy who wears the white jacket, that's 563 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,359 the choreographer that I was talking about. His name is 564 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,720 His first name is Jeff, and I'm forgetting his last 565 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:06,960 name right now, but he u it old Jeff, Yeah, Jeff. 566 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,519 And so obviously he was the one that put together 567 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,200 the dance for the guitar solo that happens, which is 568 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,559 this really you know, sharks versus Jets kind of. 569 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: Clearly based on West Side Story. 570 00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, west Side Story deal. And and you got Eddie's 571 00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:30,920 screaming solo in the back, which I guess I haven't 572 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,920 talked about that either. That was the other thing. So 573 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,279 Quincy called Eddie about coming to He's like, I got this, 574 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:38,599 you know, Michael's written a song and Eddie's like who 575 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,680 is He's like it's Quincy Jones. He's like fu and 576 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,960 hangs up the phone and apparently did that about four 577 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,559 different times before Quincy Jones really convinced him, Hey, this 578 00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:47,640 is really Quincy Jones. And he's like, oh, oh, I'm 579 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,960 so sorry. And so he goes in. He's like, so, 580 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:52,680 what do you want me to do? They said, you're 581 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,599 here because you know what to do, so you just 582 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,000 do it. And so he messes around with it for 583 00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:00,640 a minute and says, hey, can you change the progression 584 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,720 in this spot here and the spot here? And you 585 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,119 can hear it when you listen to the song the 586 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,119 progression changes. And then he throws that solo down. I 587 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,480 think again it was a two take type of deal. 588 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,360 But as he's throwing it down, this is this is 589 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,239 not urban myth. Like all of the guys who are there, 590 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,719 I've seen them, they all say the same thing. He 591 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:24,119 set the monitor on fire. It actually went on fire, 592 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:27,800 and like he's playing and the monitor starts flaming and 593 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,679 they're like, holy smokes. And the text run in and 594 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:34,159 they've got their you know, their extinguishers and they're trying 595 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:35,599 to put it out. And one guy turns to the 596 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,519 other you Rod turns to Bruce and he's like, I 597 00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:39,719 guess this means it's going to. 598 00:34:39,719 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 2: Be That's fantastic. But Thriller in general is noted for 599 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:17,000 having three strong Christmas seasons eighty two, eighty three, and 600 00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:20,280 eighty four owned Christmas three years in a row. That's 601 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,119 unheard of, that would never happen today. 602 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it makes total sense because they released and 603 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,360 they were trying that they wanted the Christmas album and 604 00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:30,360 I think probably the first of those three and eighty 605 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,119 two was probably the weakest. But they wanted it out 606 00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:37,440 before Christmas because they wanted people. They knew that Off 607 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,920 the Wall had done well, they knew that they made 608 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,159 a good album. They wanted it released by Christmas. It 609 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,719 just didn't do as well as they had hoped that 610 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,599 it would. But then it's the release of Thriller video 611 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,480 that next year. It causes the big resurgence that Christmas 612 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,079 for eighty three, and then it's the unfortunate fire that 613 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,360 causes the big resurgion for eighty four. Wow. Incredible. 614 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:01,679 Speaker 2: Okay, So back to beat It we Saw video? Is 615 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,840 this where we talked about weird now? For me? 616 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 3: And oh sure you want to talk about weird now? 617 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I might as well throw it in here 618 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,679 as a little side note. 619 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,639 Speaker 3: I don't think you grew up in the eighties without 620 00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:19,360 either loving or hating word Avid. 621 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 2: I mean, this was my introduction to wed now. 622 00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:24,039 Speaker 3: Oh Min too, Yeah, well, I don't know what the I. 623 00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 2: Think he had some stuff before this, but he was well, 624 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,000 he was. 625 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,119 Speaker 3: On a show called Doctor Demento. But I think that 626 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,880 I think that this that that eat It really led 627 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,679 to the album which I had, which introduced me to 628 00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:40,920 a whole lot of other things. Right and oddly, I 629 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,199 think I, like I lost on Jeopardy. I thought that's 630 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,559 what the real lyrics were. I didn't realize that that 631 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,320 was that was not what the real lyrics were. So 632 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,079 I was I was surprised to hear about that. 633 00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:55,599 Speaker 2: I showed Ava, my daughter, the weird al video the 634 00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:59,239 other day. Eat it Okay, so weird. I eat it obviously, 635 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,559 beat it is what it's based on. It still kills. 636 00:37:03,679 --> 00:37:05,320 She loved it. She thought it was hilarious. 637 00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:09,559 Speaker 3: Well, the my kids have, they have no inclination to 638 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:11,960 watch the bad video at all, but they will watch 639 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,320 Fat day Long. 640 00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:16,599 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, well we'll get to that. 641 00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, get a minute, okay, Okay, So we beat it. 642 00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:24,599 Billy Jean, I have already talked about brilliant. It's you 643 00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:28,480 know the songs on here that the reason not only 644 00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:30,440 is it the sound that sets them apart, but they 645 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:33,320 do not sound like any other songs that were before 646 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,079 this time, like they changed the paradigm and this was 647 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:39,800 a shift that happened, and Billy Jean is obviously a 648 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:46,039 huge factor on that that it's just brilliant. So then 649 00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:48,679 we've got we've hit Billy Jean. 650 00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:52,159 Speaker 2: So let's talk just a minute about Billy Jean. So 651 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:55,639 Billy Jean, obviously you have the Motown performance where it 652 00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:58,199 does the moonwalk, where people just lose their mind over 653 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,360 what they're seeing and it still kills I mean when 654 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,920 I look at it, I'm like, my body is not 655 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,360 capable of doing what he's doing. 656 00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 3: Right, And he was disappointed in it too. Apparently wanted 657 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,719 to hold the toepos for like a good second and 658 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,880 a half and it was just a pop and done. 659 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,639 Speaker 2: But you know, I saw the interview. He was not 660 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,920 pleased that he wanted to spin and stick it for 661 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,320 like five seconds or something to the toe and it 662 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,760 was just an up and down and he was mad 663 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,519 at himself on that. 664 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 3: Right. But that's now what kind of defines people who 665 00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:31,480 who recreate that dances. They'll just do the momentary pop 666 00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:33,079 up and it seems cooler to me. I think it 667 00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:34,599 probably would have been weird ify to help. 668 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 2: That's it's not a ballerina, right, so uh, the song 669 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,920 was obviously a number one hit on So before we 670 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,360 move on, Thriller reached number four on the Hot one hundred. 671 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,760 We talked about that beat. It was a number one hit, yes, okay, 672 00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:51,840 one of only two number one hits on the album. 673 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 3: Okay, seems like it might be playing into your argument 674 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,639 later on the fact that. 675 00:38:55,639 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: You were so Billy Jean was actually the other number 676 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,599 one hit from Thrower. 677 00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:05,559 Speaker 3: So as bad as eighty two sucked, eighty three and 678 00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:07,800 eighty four were really pretty durned good for music. 679 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: They were fantastic for me. 680 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,159 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not gonna we will get into that al right. Things. Yeah, well, 681 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,480 let's finish out the album. 682 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 2: Okay, do we cover Billy Jane? We got Billy Jane. 683 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,559 Speaker 3: I think Billy Gene is covered. Okay, So human Nature Human. 684 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,039 Speaker 2: Nature rull catch you too late add to the album. 685 00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:26,960 By the way, So Human Nature reached number seven on 686 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,639 the Hot one hundred, So another top ten hit for me. 687 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:37,000 The song is excellent, love it a little soft in 688 00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:40,079 the middle, but there's that one section that we'll play 689 00:39:40,159 --> 00:40:02,639 right now hopefully, Yes, that part is gold. 690 00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:08,039 Speaker 3: And then uh, second to the last album on the 691 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,280 track is p y T Pretty young thing. 692 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,679 Speaker 2: Second to the last track on the album is That's 693 00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:14,440 what strike that. 694 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,159 Speaker 3: Puy D And so uh the this is where the 695 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,519 Chipmunks come back into play again. I think I heard 696 00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:26,280 that song like, oh, this is the guys from my 697 00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:27,440 Chipmunk Punk album. 698 00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:29,119 Speaker 2: I'm so excited about that's right. 699 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 3: Uh yeah. For some reason, he's got a couple of 700 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,920 weird little voices that come in on this one. But 701 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:36,760 it doesn't tarnish the beauty of the song. 702 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 6: Well we can talk about that what I can. 703 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,679 Speaker 2: So, yes, you got the Chipmunks at the end of 704 00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:01,599 the p y T, which, in my opinion, does tarnish 705 00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:05,639 a great song. Okay, so you do have So you've 706 00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:08,079 got Janet and LaToya singing. 707 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, the backups right there they are the Pyts. 708 00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:15,679 Speaker 2: Yes, they are the Pyts his sisters. Yes, and sounds good, 709 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,360 sounds great. And then you get the chip Bucks. 710 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so do you know who the Chipmunky is? No, 711 00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:21,960 it's Michael Jackson. 712 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 2: Still not good enough to say it. 713 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but here's the thing. It's nineteen eighty two 714 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,800 and Chipmunk Punk is one of the biggest selling albums 715 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,800 of all time. And we know that one of Michael's 716 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,920 biggest things is he wants to sell a lot of albums. 717 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: Right, he does clearly. 718 00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,559 Speaker 3: And you listen to Quincy Jones or you listen to 719 00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:44,760 Rod Templeton talk and they're like, let's just go make 720 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,760 a good album. You listen to guys from Toto who 721 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,800 did the back, They're like, let's just go make some 722 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,079 good music. You don't know, You're never going to know 723 00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:52,760 whether this is going to be a big hit or not. 724 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,519 But Michael Jackson had went from alter famous as Little 725 00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:01,119 Michael Jackson and the Jackson Five to famous again. 726 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 2: And really this is the explanation of why Michael Jackson's weird. 727 00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:08,039 Speaker 3: Not why he's weird, Okay, it's that he wants to 728 00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:10,960 be his I don't think his motivation is money. I 729 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,599 think his motivation Okay, maybe his motivation's money. He wants 730 00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:16,159 to sell an audio. He wants to sell a lot 731 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,599 of albums. Yes, that is what seems to be his 732 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,760 driving force. And so he here he sees the chipmunk 733 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,639 punk has gone crazy, and he's like, put a chipmunk 734 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,079 voice in my thing. I'll just do it. I'll just 735 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,480 do it, and I'll speed myself up and it'll be fun, right, 736 00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:32,559 And so I think that's I mean, I think he did. 737 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,719 I think he did a money grab or a fame 738 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,519 grab or something with that, and I think it worked 739 00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:40,239 because I was at the time and going, oh cool, 740 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,199 Chipmunk Okay. 741 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 2: Let me just say, first of all, I love the 742 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,360 song pi t Okay. I love it. It's very catchy. 743 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,280 No video reached number ten on the Hot one hundred yep. 744 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,960 So clearly a smash it. You get Janet and LaToya 745 00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:58,320 is kind of known for getting some of that, and 746 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:05,480 it worked well. It's good. There's just that Michael Jackson's 747 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,119 weirdness just kind of creeps into the end of it. 748 00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:09,880 It's kind of the sin of the album. But it's 749 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,239 it's catchy and it's good and I like it. I 750 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,320 clearly like puyd a lot. Right. You didn't have it, 751 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,519 if I could strike the Chickmunks from this album. 752 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,199 Speaker 3: You didn't have Chipmunk Punk. 753 00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: I did not. 754 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 3: I had Chipmunk Punk and Urban Chipmunk and probably the 755 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,679 other three albums that came out. 756 00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:26,199 Speaker 2: Act I was nine, I guess I was. 757 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were past that. It was beyond your time 758 00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:33,239 and then the album rounds out with The Lady in 759 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,199 My Life, which again is it's a throwaway track for 760 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:38,599 me as. 761 00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 2: Well, a stinker. How did that clear? So? I heard 762 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,000 I heard Quincy Jones talking about and you said, you 763 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,800 start with eight hundred songs and then you try to 764 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,880 get it down to nine good ones, right, which they 765 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,760 felt like they did. Then they threw out some and 766 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,239 through all that, the Lady in My Life somehow clears 767 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,360 all the hurdles to make it on ther greatest solo 768 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:57,800 album all. 769 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 3: Well. Yeah, so of all of the all of the 770 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,480 tracks on the album, only two of them are skippers 771 00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:07,320 for me. You know, I'm gonna skip, I'm gonna skip 772 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,480 Baby Be Mine, I'm gonna skip the Lady in My Life. 773 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,920 But the rest of the album, I mean, it changed 774 00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:17,199 music history. 775 00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:22,599 Speaker 2: Was a pop culture nuclear bomb. Yeah, absolutely, without question. 776 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,559 Speaker 3: And I note with some embarrassment but not a lot, 777 00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:30,000 that my grandma made me a sequin glove and I 778 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,360 would wear that at school. 779 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, now, he I didn't realize you that cool? 780 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:44,679 Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, okay, And so then eighty seven comes along. 781 00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:46,519 Speaker 4: You know, those were good songs. 782 00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: Hu. 783 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 3: I like those songs a lot, but especially I like 784 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,199 the new songs. 785 00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 2: Much anticipated, right, so maybe the most anticipated album of 786 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:00,840 all time. 787 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 3: So join us next week for part two of the 788 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,360 Bad versus Thriller debate. Here is some of what you 789 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,880 will hear off the wall is Star Wars Thrillers, and 790 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:24,119 Bad is returning. We'll get into this, okay. 791 00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 2: Chris Jones actually got Prince and Michael Jackson together, and 792 00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:32,280 Bad was originally intended to be a duet, sort of 793 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,079 a back and forth. Your butt is mine right right? 794 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 3: That becomes more uncomfortable say it like that, right? Okay? 795 00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:46,159 The point that he starts doing those yells that I 796 00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:49,039 will What the heck? 797 00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:56,119 Speaker 2: This is the best song on either Oh no, no, 798 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,559 this is the best song on either album. You it's 799 00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:06,360 not my favorite, but it's the best one. The next 800 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,280 one is Dirty Diana. 801 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 3: You will not hear me say anything bad about Dirty dwn. 802 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,079 Speaker 2: Okay. 803 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your support of the Shirley 804 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,880 You Can't Be Serious podcast. Don't forget. We also love 805 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,760 to debate on social media as well, so be sure 806 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,840 to follow us at Shirley Podcast on Twitter, at Shirley 807 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,440 podcast on Facebook, or email us at shirleypodcast at gmail 808 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,679 dot com. 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