Speaker 1: You know what, they may have just won against the
Speaker 1: same team that they just recently beat by fifty five
Speaker 1: by four points at alan Field House. Yeah, that's okay,
Speaker 1: that's okay.
Speaker 2: Is it okay?
Speaker 1: It's okay?
Speaker 2: I promise.
Speaker 1: I asked my friend, the one, the only, the damn
Speaker 1: it Bill that guy. I asked him, and he said
Speaker 1: all he actually said was wow, how about kJ Am?
Speaker 2: I right, yeah, Sorry, I just threw up in my
Speaker 2: mouth a little bit.
Speaker 1: Well, this will be an interesting show because while we
Speaker 1: are inside the paint per usual, Landon is literally inside
Speaker 1: the paint. He's not here today because he's painting somebody's house.
Speaker 1: And Cam, I have to tell you. I know that
Speaker 1: doing these podcasts, whenever you have to wake up at
Speaker 1: six o'clock in the morning, which is just like eight
Speaker 1: hours from now or whatever, Not really but close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's close to eight hours from now. I
Speaker 1: gotta think that you would rather do that than paint
Speaker 1: somebody's house.
Speaker 2: That sounds terrible, I would I, you know, painting for me.
Speaker 2: Apparently people do painting for leisure, but for me, it
Speaker 2: sounds like a day in a penitentiary. I don't if
Speaker 2: you handed me a paint brush and you told me
Speaker 2: to paint a wall. Within an hour, the paint brush
Speaker 2: would be in the paint bucket, the door would be open,
Speaker 2: and I would be ten miles down the road finding
Speaker 2: the nearest corner bar. Because that's a horrible way to
Speaker 2: spend a day.
Speaker 1: That that seems accurate. Like, we bought our house three
Speaker 1: years ago and I had so much help painting that house,
Speaker 1: and I hated every second of painting the house. Now
Speaker 1: my wife is talking like we did do a good job.
Speaker 1: It looks nice and all. But you know, my wife
Speaker 1: has mentioned like, maybe we should paint this room this
Speaker 1: color up. They'd be like, no, no, this is the color.
Speaker 1: Don't you see. There's only two options. You either learn
Speaker 1: to like the color or we move. I'm not doing
Speaker 1: anything in between, no painting ever.
Speaker 2: I personally like the medieval architectural wallpaper that we have here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that at least we got lucky enough to not
Speaker 1: move in a house with wallpaper. I don't know who
Speaker 1: in the world ever thought that was a good idea.
Speaker 1: That's out. Wallpaper is so outdated it may as well
Speaker 1: be in line with the same time period as a
Speaker 1: three big lineup in college basketball. Hey, you know what
Speaker 1: that is?
Speaker 2: You know what I think Bill self is actually just
Speaker 2: playing the game that fog Allen envisioned.
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, whenever he had his wife, whenever he
Speaker 1: had his wife in her peach basket, throw the ball
Speaker 1: up into the basket and then they have to stop
Speaker 1: the game, get a ladder, and go get the ball
Speaker 1: out of it.
Speaker 2: If if fog Allen could have had five Zach Clemens's,
Speaker 2: he would be the greatest coach in Kansas basketball history.
Speaker 2: And I don't even think that's that crazy of a take.
Speaker 1: And there are there would be people that would argue
Speaker 1: it for sure. They've only been eight of them in
Speaker 1: like one hundred and twenty some years of Kansas basketball.
Speaker 1: There's only been eight coaches. Can you name all eight coaches?
Speaker 1: I don't think I can. Fog Allen Bill or not
Speaker 1: Ted Williams. Ted Ted Williams is a great baseball player. Yes,
Speaker 1: Ted Owens. So that's five. Naysmith, right, he counts nay
Speaker 1: Smith of course? Yes, Okay, so that's that's six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how are there our there still two others? Let's see.
Speaker 2: I think that's all I got in the tank, honestly.
Speaker 1: Let's see. So yes, Jay Okay. This is on Wikipedia,
Speaker 1: James Nay Smith and fog Allen where they are the
Speaker 1: first like fifty nine years. And then they they had
Speaker 1: a coach named William O. Hamilton who coached from nineteen
Speaker 1: oh nine to nineteen nineteen. In case you're ever playing
Speaker 1: trivia quest and the question is who is coaching Kansas
Speaker 1: basketball when the Titanic went down? William O. Hamilton? And
Speaker 1: then there's Dick Harp for eight years.
Speaker 2: Uh, Dick Effort, what a name.
Speaker 1: So actually I should have known this. So the order
Speaker 1: goes James Nay Smith for ten years, and then it
Speaker 1: goes fog Allen for two years, and then they gave
Speaker 1: the reins to William Hamilton, and then they go back
Speaker 1: to fog Allen for almost forty years, and he coached
Speaker 1: there until fifty six. Then Dick Harp, yes name, Hall
Speaker 1: of famer, but one of the most medium ooker basketball
Speaker 1: coaches for the record, Dick Harp until sixty four. Then's
Speaker 1: Head Owens for twenty years, then Larry Brown for six
Speaker 1: they win the eighty eight title, Roy Williams gets fifteen years,
Speaker 1: and then Bill self as has been here since two
Speaker 1: thousand and three. Wow, that's it eight coaches? How many
Speaker 1: you you were for the Detroit Lions. The Lions have
Speaker 1: to have had eight coaches in the last like twelve
Speaker 1: years they've had They've had.
Speaker 2: Jim Caldwell, Jim Schwartz, Jan Campbell, Campbell and then beyond that.
Speaker 2: I actually can't remember after prior to that, it was
Speaker 2: all terrible. See.
Speaker 1: One of the very first memories that like six or
Speaker 1: seven year old Ryan had of watching the Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: was when Marty Morningwig was coaching there and he opted
Speaker 1: to kick off after winning the overtime coin toss because
Speaker 1: he wanted to play with the wind at his back,
Speaker 1: and he never got the ball. If that'll if that
Speaker 1: tells me how that experiment believable?
Speaker 2: I forgot. I forgot that actually happened. I don't really
Speaker 2: I heard that, but I heard of that.
Speaker 1: You're also forgetting the lioneest coach of all time, which
Speaker 1: was Matt Patricia, the fat dude.
Speaker 2: Pencil and the neck beard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, basically the white Mike woodson of of NFL coaches.
Speaker 1: We were talking about him in our first intro. I
Speaker 1: don't know how we got on that. Like, Indiana was good.
Speaker 1: Recently Indiana won several NCAA titles against some of those
Speaker 1: Kansas coaches. We just named it, and now they are.
Speaker 1: They are dreadful.
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia is the Michael Jordan of Mike Woodson's.
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got down this rabbit hole
Speaker 1: off for five minutes, but we probably have to talk
Speaker 1: about Kansas UCF as much as we don't want to
Speaker 1: do that, so we will do that. This is inside
Speaker 1: the Pain on rock Chuk blog. I'm Ryan Landrath and
Speaker 1: I'm Cam Cam. I don't know if you're gonna win
Speaker 1: pick them. You probably are, but one thing you're definitely
Speaker 1: gonna win is the attendance award. You're you're skating rings
Speaker 1: around Landon and I think that that should be fifty
Speaker 1: percent of the vote. Whenever it comes to deciding who
Speaker 1: loses pick him at.
Speaker 2: The end of the year. I I agree, especially if
Speaker 2: I'm the one that actually does end up losing.
Speaker 1: Pick them what you want. You're doing very well in Pickham.
Speaker 1: You are way up, and pick them. Landon and I
Speaker 1: are battling it out in last place. I am one
Speaker 1: game ahead of Landon, who's not here, and every time
Speaker 1: that he's not here, we do have to remind you
Speaker 1: that this if the soundboard.
Speaker 2: Works gas landed fields.
Speaker 1: There we go, you suck ass landed fields. Then I
Speaker 1: also have this, which I don't think I've ever pushed
Speaker 1: on the show. I don't know if I ever heard
Speaker 1: if I have ever pushed that. It was about Dick Fitel,
Speaker 1: and all I had to do was take out the
Speaker 1: very last word. So it's not like he's ever gonna
Speaker 1: hear it because he doesn't listen to the show. Oh well,
Speaker 1: I'm also watching highlights on the TV are are it's
Speaker 1: all It's Big ten night and apparently the Big Ten
Speaker 1: doesn't have any ESPN games.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, Big ten is only on FS one.
Speaker 1: I believes because Joe Lenardi was called out on Twitter
Speaker 1: for never mentioning anything about the Big Ten as far
Speaker 1: as bracketology, and he said, well, we're told in our
Speaker 1: production meetings that we don't really cover the Big Ten,
Speaker 1: so don't focus on it.
Speaker 2: So, yes, Big ten doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Right, I was gonna say, we can all do that.
Speaker 1: Who and you know who also doesn't matter as UCF basketball,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry they don't. But somehow Kansas only finished four
Speaker 1: points better. So let's let's go ahead. Let's talk all
Speaker 1: about it. Number eleven Kansas ninety one, UCF eighty seven.
Speaker 1: Good lord, that's a lot of points.
Speaker 2: Whoof yeah, uh Well, Without Dewan Harris, Kansas struggled all
Speaker 2: night on the defensive end, playing even with UCF for
Speaker 2: a half before the Knight's built a nine point lead
Speaker 2: early in the second half. Eventually, the three point shooting
Speaker 2: cooled down for UCF. KU's offense made enough plays to
Speaker 2: squeak out a narrow win over team that they beat
Speaker 2: by fifty one points just three long long weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we could have told you that was coming right.
Speaker 1: UCF at one point was twelve for twenty seven from three.
Speaker 1: And it was at that moment, while Kansas trailed by
Speaker 1: eight points that I posted on Rock Chalk Blog that
Speaker 1: UCF is gonna go to for their last thirteen threes
Speaker 1: and is gonna score just enough to win by like
Speaker 1: six points, and we'll all convince ourselves that this was
Speaker 1: better than it was. And sure enough, UCF wound up
Speaker 1: going I believe it was two for nine to close
Speaker 1: it down the stretch from three, and then Kansas escaped
Speaker 1: by a few points. You could make a couple of
Speaker 1: different arguments here you could say this is a team
Speaker 1: that Kansas just beat by fifty five. Also, UCF isn't
Speaker 1: the punching bag that a lot of people think they are.
Speaker 1: It's true statistically, this was a thirteen and six team
Speaker 1: entering Allen Field House, just a couple wins worse than
Speaker 1: the Jayhawks. They were fighting to go over five hundred
Speaker 1: in league play. I think that UCF gets a little
Speaker 1: more crap than they deserve because their UCF. In reality,
Speaker 1: they're having essentially the same season as Baylor, and nobody
Speaker 1: would say anything if Kansas quote only beat Baylor by
Speaker 1: four at home. I don't know, Maybe I'm stretching too far.
Speaker 1: Did this show you more things to be optimistic about
Speaker 1: ig r eg the offense scoring ninety one points, or
Speaker 1: did it show you more to be discouraged about? Which
Speaker 1: is the offense or the defense allowing eighty seven?
Speaker 2: This is going to sound really bizarre. That game left
Speaker 2: me feeling more discouraged than the Houston game, and it
Speaker 2: has less to do with the players than it does
Speaker 2: the coach. I believe that Bill self is going to
Speaker 2: run this team into the ground while playing three bigs.
Speaker 2: Harris gets big. Yeah, he's he's past that window, I think,
Speaker 2: but I honestly believe, and again just throwing this out there,
Speaker 2: I do not hate kJ Adams. I like kJ Adams.
Speaker 2: I think he's a great guy, and I think he's
Speaker 2: a good basketball player. However, I do not believe there's
Speaker 2: any universe in which he should be playing with two
Speaker 2: other big men, a non scoring point guard, and then
Speaker 2: one shooter on the floor at any time. And I
Speaker 2: think that is exactly what we are going to get.
Speaker 1: And yet that's exactly Yeah, that's exactly what we saw
Speaker 1: for a good stretch. And the players may be drinking
Speaker 1: a lot of the bell self kool aid, which you
Speaker 1: could do worse than drinking kul aid of a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame coach, I guess. But they all after the
Speaker 1: game talked about how they felt it was really good,
Speaker 1: especially on the defensive end, which is interesting because again
Speaker 1: they gave up eighty seven points. This game got off
Speaker 1: to eight, correct, Yes, who again, might that may sound
Speaker 1: that that may that may not be super fair because
Speaker 1: ucfs better than their name would.
Speaker 2: Suggest, but a decent offense according to Ken Pom.
Speaker 1: They have a very good offense. According to Ken Palm, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're a very good three point shooting team. They made
Speaker 1: fourteen of them in this game. Granted they were you know,
Speaker 1: on the last show, I said three point defense is
Speaker 1: more or less luck, and that you know everybody else
Speaker 1: likes to say, oh, well if you leave dudes wide open,
Speaker 1: well okay, I'll give you this one. And this game,
Speaker 1: Kansas left guys wide, wide, wide open all day, and
Speaker 1: especially Keishawn Hall, who dropped thirty four in this game.
Speaker 1: I think like they just flat out weren't gonna miss
Speaker 1: those open looks. In the first thirty minutes. This game
Speaker 1: got off to a ridiculous start. I think it was
Speaker 1: like twenty one to nineteen at the first TV timeout
Speaker 1: or something like that. Like it was a bizarro start.
Speaker 1: And then Dwan Harris not having Dwan Harris, it showed
Speaker 1: because they could not stop turning the ball over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dwan Harris is a really important piece of this team.
Speaker 2: I think that this team can be super successful if
Speaker 2: he's utilized with scoring options, kind of like it was
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: But that remains to be seen.
Speaker 2: We will see, and we'll see if Bill Soft chooses
Speaker 2: to play basketball in the Year of Our Lord twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, or if he wants to play it the
Speaker 2: way that James and a Smith envision with unathletic white
Speaker 2: men and a lot of big guys.
Speaker 1: And big and the eighteen hundreds being like five foot,
Speaker 1: nine hundred and sixty five pounds.
Speaker 2: If you got over six feet tall in like the
Speaker 2: early nineteen hundreds, you were basically Will Chamberlain.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five. Cam would have been an All American
Speaker 1: at Kansas in the year eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 2: I might have my name in the Allen Field House
Speaker 2: rafters if I played it in nineteen oh five.
Speaker 1: Which is to see, that's what makes it even more
Speaker 1: hilarious when people are like, you can't put David McCormick's
Speaker 1: name up there. I know he helped win him a
Speaker 1: national title, but points the jerseys of the most lanky,
Speaker 1: unathletic people ever that just so happened to be born
Speaker 1: early enough to play the sport before we had all
Speaker 1: these great players.
Speaker 2: Like half the guys that were on the title teams
Speaker 2: from the Helms years ended up working for probably like
Speaker 2: Stanley Steamer. And we're telling David McCormick that he can't
Speaker 2: get in the rafters for hitting one of the most
Speaker 2: important shots in Kansas history.
Speaker 1: Correct, yes, thank you, Like everybody makes the Michael. Everybody
Speaker 1: makes the Michael Jordan's isn't as impressive as Lebron James
Speaker 1: jokes because he played against postal workers and like confestment bankers.
Speaker 1: But like, that's actually true about as you said, the
Speaker 1: guys from the helms teams, Like those guys had jobs
Speaker 1: that they went to after winning most Outstanding Player of
Speaker 1: the Final Four.
Speaker 2: Imagine getting cooked by some dude in like the Final four,
Speaker 2: and then your reward is you have to go and
Speaker 2: make one dollar pro hour working at a plumbing job.
Speaker 2: And hey, I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not like the Great Depression is a decade
Speaker 1: in the future and coming right down the pipe or something.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's just horrible. Talk about times to not
Speaker 2: be alive, that's probably the top.
Speaker 1: Speaking of times that you wouldn't believe that you were alive.
Speaker 1: And if I had told you this before the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season, imagine being told a few weeks ago
Speaker 1: that Kansas would beat UCF by fifty five points in
Speaker 1: two games, and you'd probably say, all right, well that's
Speaker 1: not super surprising. Preseason number one team against lowly in
Speaker 1: reputation UCF. But then you find out that in those
Speaker 1: fifty five point fifty five points to two games, and
Speaker 1: one of them was a four point squeaker at Allen Fieldhouse,
Speaker 1: wholly confusing.
Speaker 2: Goodness, gracious, that's math that your average average man might
Speaker 2: not be able to comprehend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, maybe even above average speacause it's it's really
Speaker 1: as I'm watching Memphis just I have the Memphis to
Speaker 1: Laying game on the TV because there nothing else to
Speaker 1: watch I do. Yeah, have a as you mentioned, you
Speaker 1: mentioned that you have a vetted interas the Wink Wink
Speaker 1: in this game, and I was watching Memphis, Miss Alley
Speaker 1: dunks off the backboard, thinking like, man Cam could really
Speaker 1: use this one. He goes up for the alay oop.
Speaker 1: Oh nope, going the other way.
Speaker 2: Oh well, oh man checks out.
Speaker 1: Their uniforms alone. Should should warrant an enst the loss.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that would get handled on draft Kings,
Speaker 1: but avoided and deservedly. So we should lead off the
Speaker 1: KU recap with lineups here. kJ Adams was active. He
Speaker 1: was active. He was expected to get limited minutes, but
Speaker 1: he played twenty six of them, including all but seven
Speaker 1: of the last thirty three, Bill Self swapped between his bigs.
Speaker 1: He played all three at once, which we'll talk about
Speaker 1: throughout the evening. AJ Store did not play at all
Speaker 1: in the second half. Shaq Moor, who he thought was
Speaker 1: going to be the thirty five minutes point guard after
Speaker 1: it was announced Duan Harris would not start, he didn't
Speaker 1: play hardly at all in the second half either. They
Speaker 1: let Zeke Mayo and David koy who did have the
Speaker 1: hot hand shooting the ball handle the point position. What
Speaker 1: in the world do you make sense to this? Bill
Speaker 1: Self has at this point an eight man rotation. These
Speaker 1: are the eight guys that he's playing. However, it's super
Speaker 1: uber confusing because none of them are playing the amount
Speaker 1: of minutes that we thought they would play a J storer.
Speaker 1: You know, we were like praising Bell self a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago for not giving up on Store, and he
Speaker 1: totally did in this game. And then you see David
Speaker 1: Koit come off the bench and play his best game
Speaker 1: of the season. You see Shack Moore hardly play at
Speaker 1: all on a night wherever they didn't have their normal
Speaker 1: point guard, and also three bigs. What do you want
Speaker 1: to make of this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually have no idea. It's bizarre not to
Speaker 2: see Shack Moore get a lot of run in this game,
Speaker 2: especially when you think of it. You know, the whole
Speaker 2: argument for the three big lineup is well, it helps
Speaker 2: them defensively, well maybe on the inside, but they gave
Speaker 2: up eighty seven points and UCF was getting tons of
Speaker 2: wide open threes and it's not like they were contested,
Speaker 2: they were just wide open three pointers. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I genuinely don't know. None of it makes a lot
Speaker 2: of sense to me. I'm not a haul off coach here,
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I just don't think any
Speaker 2: of the lineup choices made sense if kJ Adams, Hunter,
Speaker 2: Dickinson and Florid played the same time. I mean, you're like,
Speaker 2: what do you expect is going to happen there? I
Speaker 2: don't know. Well, I mean it's just bizarre.
Speaker 1: And the thing that I think makes this a challenge
Speaker 1: is normally you can look at a game and you
Speaker 1: can break it up into pretty even points and you
Speaker 1: can say, okay, so maybe the game at eighty seven points,
Speaker 1: but two thirds of those points came in this lineup,
Speaker 1: and it got a lot better when we put this
Speaker 1: lineup in you really can't do that. In this particular game.
Speaker 1: First eleven minutes of the game, or first nine minutes
Speaker 1: of the game, UCF scored twenty five points. Last nine
Speaker 1: minutes of the game. Of the half, UCF scored eighteen points,
Speaker 1: So they were pretty consistently on one throughout the first half.
Speaker 1: First ten minutes of the second half, UCF scored twenty
Speaker 1: two points. Last ten minutes of the second half, UCF
Speaker 1: scored twenty three points. So it's not like you can
Speaker 1: and say, oh, once they put that lineup on the floor,
Speaker 1: that really locked it down. They were consistently hitting shots
Speaker 1: throughout the night, and in those last ten minutes, UCF
Speaker 1: only made two of their fourteen threes, and they still
Speaker 1: managed to score as many points as they were scoring.
Speaker 1: When they were shooting the threes at a high clip,
Speaker 1: they were taking the ball right at Hunter Dickinson, similarly
Speaker 1: to the way we saw Jawan Roberts work him, we
Speaker 1: saw Keshawn Hall go to the cup against Badunga and Dickinson.
Speaker 1: Floory was pulled despite being Kansas's best all round player
Speaker 1: potentially in this game with a couple of minutes left
Speaker 1: in its high game because he could not do anything defensively,
Speaker 1: and that was when Self opted to play Adams, who did,
Speaker 1: to his credit, get a couple really nice defensive stands.
Speaker 1: I think that my prediction is they are going to
Speaker 1: start three bigs against Baylor. I have no idea how
Speaker 1: it's gonna work. Baylor is a is a team that's
Speaker 1: all guards. By the way, they play four four round
Speaker 1: one a lot. They have one guy that they play
Speaker 1: at the five, and they really only play the six
Speaker 1: ' ten guy whenever they're in bigger matchups. So I
Speaker 1: don't think that going for your three bigs against Baylor
Speaker 1: is the answer. But I think that's gonna be the
Speaker 1: five guys. Bell self starts because how can you not
Speaker 1: start Floory right now? And I think he wants to
Speaker 1: start kJ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he will never quit on kJ Adams.
Speaker 2: And also it's it's kind of frustrating in the sense
Speaker 2: I had a fan on Twitter that was interacting, not
Speaker 2: a fan of a guy on Twitter that was an
Speaker 2: interacting and maybe he is a fan of the show,
Speaker 2: you know, we'll call him a fan. I don't like
Speaker 2: this guy in a way he's a fan of the show.
Speaker 2: He sucks and he was talking to me, and he
Speaker 2: was like, obviously you're you hate kJ Adams. You know
Speaker 2: you're a hater. I was like, no, I actually really
Speaker 2: like kJ Adams, but Bill self is putting him in
Speaker 2: a place where he's not gonna succeed. It's acidine to
Speaker 2: put him on the floor with two other bigs. They
Speaker 2: don't even guard him half the time. So where where
Speaker 2: is the space and where the shots can come from?
Speaker 2: Maybe against Baylor or Works they have one other big.
Speaker 2: But again, I feel like this is a recipe for
Speaker 2: in the NCAA tournament. They might get boat raised and
Speaker 2: they don't have scores well.
Speaker 1: And in this case, kJ Adams did some good things.
Speaker 1: My eyeball thought he was a My eyeballs thought he
Speaker 1: was a total liability for about thirty six minutes, and
Speaker 1: then I thought he made some really nice plays in
Speaker 1: the back couple like and Bill self gets out there stretch.
Speaker 1: Bill self gets in the in the in the interview
Speaker 1: remember game and goes, wow, was he great? You know
Speaker 1: he missed a couple shots, but hey, that was just Russ. No,
Speaker 1: Billy misses those those shots all the time, all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't really know. Go ahead and read me the
Speaker 1: stat line of the bigs, and then we can kind
Speaker 1: of break down a rotation because self isn't an interesting
Speaker 1: predicament right now. Hunter Dickinson is his best score. Undoubtedly
Speaker 1: the team plays through Hunter Dickinson when they are going
Speaker 1: at their best. Florie Badunga is arguably his most talented player,
Speaker 1: quite possibly his most talented guy, and also far and
Speaker 1: away the highest NBA career potential and the quickest developing,
Speaker 1: the most rapidly improving player. You can't keep him off
Speaker 1: the floor at this rate either because of how he
Speaker 1: impacts the game. But they played the same position. And
Speaker 1: then you have kJ, a guy that undoubtedly does so
Speaker 1: many off the stat card things. His defense on that
Speaker 1: final couple possessions there's no stat for that, but that
Speaker 1: was a huge play for him, forcing a jump ball
Speaker 1: that wound up getting Kansas an extra position that doesn't
Speaker 1: show up in the box score. That's also a guy
Speaker 1: that any coach is gonna want to play a lot.
Speaker 1: The problem is all three of those guys are playing
Speaker 1: in the same part of the court, and their weaknesses
Speaker 1: underlyingly are all the same. Whenever none of them can shoot,
Speaker 1: and at times whenever they're not being fed the ball.
Speaker 1: It creates a lot of spacing problems.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely does. Going to the bigs here, Hunter
Speaker 2: Dickinson had a strong close to the game. He had
Speaker 2: twenty four points. He had seven rebounds on seven for
Speaker 2: seventeen shooting. He also made ten of his twelve free throws,
Speaker 2: which is awesome. It was also nice see him make
Speaker 2: some clutch buckets in game that was pretty close for
Speaker 2: Badongo was dominant playing alongside of him, finishing with ten points,
Speaker 2: eleven rebounds, five blocks, and twenty nine minutes uh but
Speaker 2: in the last two minutes again of its high game,
Speaker 2: Self went for kJ Adams instead. He did have a
Speaker 2: solid stat line. He had twelve points, five rebounds of
Speaker 2: twenty six minutes. He went six for seven at the line,
Speaker 2: which is an area that he has really improved in,
Speaker 2: and played lockdown defense on a couple of the possessions
Speaker 2: down the stretch that helped Kansas win the game. As
Speaker 2: far as rotations go, I have absolutely no idea what
Speaker 2: Bill Self is doing, and we will see on Saturday
Speaker 2: when Kansas goes to Waco, which nothing bad has ever
Speaker 2: happened there.
Speaker 1: No, and by nothing bad you mean four straight years
Speaker 1: of lots of bad things.
Speaker 2: I go here into the Waco siege.
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, you're going like actual Waco like things
Speaker 1: that matter.
Speaker 2: Yesh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, plenty of bad things have happened in Waco.
Speaker 1: It's just a very lousy city and you know, yuck. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's my take on the on these bigs. Hunter Dickinson,
Speaker 1: h yes, you mentioned it was great to see him close.
Speaker 1: He has. He's drawn the iron from Kansas fans for
Speaker 1: not always coming to play whenever the chips are down.
Speaker 1: I thought he did a good job of this. But
Speaker 1: something occurred to me about Hunter Dickinson. Seven for seventeen
Speaker 1: from the floor with all of his shots being twos
Speaker 1: is a low percentage. This is a guy that I
Speaker 1: think a lot of us think of as a walking bucket.
Speaker 1: He's shooting the lowest percentage from the floor in his
Speaker 1: career while shooting fewer threes than he has attempted since
Speaker 1: his freshman season at Michigan. He is missing more twos.
Speaker 2: Hold on that screams spacing problems. By the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna ask you what the reason is
Speaker 1: why he is he's having more of these seven for seventeen.
Speaker 1: You look back at the last handful of games they
Speaker 1: go up to Iowa State, a game you really need him,
Speaker 1: he's three for ten. Does go seven for ten at
Speaker 1: TCU whenever he's playing with And it is kind of
Speaker 1: interesting the games that Flory was just playing, the games
Speaker 1: that kJ didn't play Hunter Dickinson was six for eleven,
Speaker 1: seven of ten and twelve of nineteen, like and then
Speaker 1: the games with kJ Hunter seven for seventeen, three for
Speaker 1: ten against Iowa State, seven for sixteen against Cincinnati, five
Speaker 1: for fifteen against Arizona State.
Speaker 2: Have you ever noticed too, Like with kJ Adams in
Speaker 2: the game of Hunter Dickers And he tends to get
Speaker 2: a lot of these shots where the ball essentially gets
Speaker 2: passed to him while he's cutting to the basket, and
Speaker 2: then he has to put up kind of like a
Speaker 2: half floater while almost like going towards the lane like
Speaker 2: he's you know, like ten feet away, and it's like
Speaker 2: a really awkward kind of like put up like put shot.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to way more of those, way
Speaker 1: more of those than he attempted at Michigan. And I
Speaker 1: can picture exactly what you're saying, Like he didn't do
Speaker 1: that last year either. Like it's these that is the
Speaker 1: mark of a guy who is athletic and can can
Speaker 1: score from any angle and can jump out of the gym.
Speaker 1: That's not Hunter. And yes, he is much more off balanced,
Speaker 1: and we're seeing fewer hook shots, which is his specialty,
Speaker 1: than we usually do. And yeah he is He's not
Speaker 1: the automatic bucket that he has been. Still a very
Speaker 1: good player. Sixteen points and ten rebounds a game and
Speaker 1: worth of fifty percent from the floor. He is an
Speaker 1: excellent all round player. But I think it is fair
Speaker 1: to question which lineup is best for him, and that's
Speaker 1: what I would do. That's priority one for me. If
Speaker 1: I'm the coaches, Hunter is our best scorer. We're gonna
Speaker 1: play through him. We need to surround him with the
Speaker 1: best lineup for him, and I think that is Florrie
Speaker 1: alongside him. Flori is a monster, by the way, does
Speaker 1: two or three space alien things a game. He just
Speaker 1: struggles defensively against the athletic drivers like a key Shawn Hall.
Speaker 1: They were pulling him out away from the pain a
Speaker 1: little bit and got him stuck in no man's land
Speaker 1: and it almost burned him. kJ easily the best defender
Speaker 1: of those three. But whenever you're talking about offensive ability.
Speaker 1: You know, there there are so many plays throughout the
Speaker 1: course of a game where he flails for a rebound
Speaker 1: and just doesn't come down with it. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: just can't help but wonder he did finish with twelve
Speaker 1: as you said, in this game, he scored twelve points.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of goaltend calls and then made
Speaker 1: free throws. Major improvement of his game is the free throws,
Speaker 1: which you said, But but yeah, I'm like, okay, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, he made three baskets, Like I know Hunter
Speaker 1: will get you double digit baskets half the time. And
Speaker 1: you know Flora can throw down a lot of dunks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a Hunter Dickinson with Floria, but Don Good
Speaker 2: next to him is a very dangerous lineup for Kansas.
Speaker 2: And the thing with kJ it's tough because I think
Speaker 2: he is the perfect mold of a guy that's like
Speaker 2: an energizer bunny comes off the bench fifteen to twenty
Speaker 2: minutes a game.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's what I would have to be futilized. He's
Speaker 1: Mitch Lightfoot buzz r. He is what Mitch Lightfoot was
Speaker 1: cracked up to be correct. Yes, on steroids. If he
Speaker 1: was put into that twelve to eighteen minutes, a game
Speaker 1: role where he comes out whenever you know. The Cincinnati
Speaker 1: game was a perfect example of a game you really
Speaker 1: want kJ out there. That is a scrappy, ugly game
Speaker 1: where neither team's gonna shoot well and you know that
Speaker 1: there's gonna be two or three jump balls or dive
Speaker 1: on the floor loose ball situations. You gotta get the
Speaker 1: bulk of him if you want to squeak out a win.
Speaker 1: That's the kJ game. A game like this ninety one
Speaker 1: to eighty seven, I'm not so sure that's the kJ game, though.
Speaker 1: I will Gary Bell self credit. He knew exactly when
Speaker 1: to put him in the game and paaram on Keishaan
Speaker 1: Hall and get a big stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. And I think I think it also
Speaker 2: kind of sucks for kJ Adams in a sense because
Speaker 2: and we've said this throughout the entirety of this season.
Speaker 2: I think you guys said last year too. We love
Speaker 2: kJ Adams like in terms of a guy, and as
Speaker 2: I think he's in we all think he's a good
Speaker 2: basketball player.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's very good back into the.
Speaker 2: Spot where he's like people are gonna rag on him
Speaker 2: and rag on him almost as like a scapegoat because
Speaker 2: he's just being put in the spot where he's not
Speaker 2: meant to be playing. And again, that comes down to
Speaker 2: the coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. Absolutely. I've seen the things that people
Speaker 1: have said about kJ Adams are not things that would
Speaker 1: be being said if his coach didn't play him as
Speaker 1: much as he did. kJ Adams isn't the one deciding
Speaker 1: to go play over Floria Madoon Gun Like, that's not
Speaker 1: his decision.
Speaker 2: Bill is also not gonna He's also not gonna go. Yeah, guys, look,
Speaker 2: I think I should be playing once to help the team, right.
Speaker 2: I've seen people say it like get out of here.
Speaker 1: Because yeah, And the same damn people who say that
Speaker 1: kJ should bench himself are the same ones that say
Speaker 1: this team doesn't have a heart, Like can you imagine?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine who was the Colts quarterback this year
Speaker 1: that said, yeah, I was too tired, I had to
Speaker 1: take myself out of a game, Like how did that go?
Speaker 1: Like that's the last thing that these guys are ever
Speaker 1: gonna say, because that looks yeah, good goal their competitors.
Speaker 1: We expect all three of these guys to play Floria,
Speaker 1: But Doonga has been so good that I think that
Speaker 1: Bill self has no choice but to keep him zarting
Speaker 1: and keep him playing twenty five plus minutes a game.
Speaker 1: Flora needs to play twenty five to thirty minutes a
Speaker 1: game unless he's in serious foul trouble. He just impacts
Speaker 1: the game in so many different ways.
Speaker 2: Agree. I also think, if you, if you could, if
Speaker 2: you can give me a crystal ball right now, if
Speaker 2: I could place a wager on this, I would in
Speaker 2: Kansas's season ending NCAA tournament loss, which inevitably will happen
Speaker 2: at some point this year.
Speaker 1: I believe spoiling around a thirty two coming right up.
Speaker 2: Probably Florie's gonna have three fouls in the first half,
Speaker 2: and he's gonna.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yep, Undoubtedly it's gonna be because Flora gets
Speaker 1: in a foul trouble and kJ has to try to
Speaker 1: replicate that, and fans will get mad ATKJ, despite he
Speaker 1: didn't put himself in that size.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh man, I've already so Zeke Mayo.
Speaker 1: As we shift gears to the back court. Here, twenty
Speaker 1: four points eight of twenty from the floor. That is
Speaker 1: six of ten from three, which is awesome, two of
Speaker 1: ten from two, which is a really weird outlier of
Speaker 1: a line of zer Kansas shot well from the floor.
Speaker 1: H Zeke Mayo nine rebounds, five assists thirty eight minutes
Speaker 1: Without him, I'm not sure this is a five hundred team.
Speaker 1: He is so good. And we ask every show where
Speaker 1: was this coming out of south or coming out of
Speaker 1: freaking Lawrence High School? Like, how did they whatever? I won't,
Speaker 1: I don't know, don't, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's shooting with a ton of volume. By the way,
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo has only shot the ball nine less times
Speaker 1: than Hunter Dickinson this year, which I don't think is
Speaker 1: something any of us saw. Zeke Mayo has shot two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty six times, which is second on the team.
Speaker 1: Nobody else besides Hunter Dickinson has shot more than one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty times. So not only is he shooting
Speaker 1: a lot, he's shooting way more than any other guard
Speaker 1: on the roster, which I think is that's a wild
Speaker 1: stat My argument for that is that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: I kind of agree. I also think that this team
Speaker 2: might go as far as Zeke Mayo can take them.
Speaker 2: I guess Mayo and Hunter Dickinson, so fire Away Man please.
Speaker 1: Yep, Zeke Mayo goes two for nine shooting threes, you're
Speaker 1: probably losing to a good sixth seed. Or if yeah,
Speaker 1: maos six to ten, they can be a good two seed,
Speaker 1: like they.
Speaker 2: Can oh yeah, they can play with anybody, but it's
Speaker 2: definitely gonna be a game. Like the recipe for a
Speaker 2: Kansas March loss is it always comes down to three things.
Speaker 2: Number One, somebody goes nuclear from three. That's a given.
Speaker 2: Number Two, Bill self Barry's a primary big man on
Speaker 2: the bench. With two or three first half fouls, they
Speaker 2: fall into it every time I can't climb back. And
Speaker 2: then number three, at some point during the game, we
Speaker 2: all realize that Kansas has not made a three in
Speaker 2: the last ten minutes and that continues for the rest
Speaker 2: of the game.
Speaker 1: Yep, they get outscored, like like by twenty seven on threes.
Speaker 1: Like that's However, we look at that game and we say, wow,
Speaker 1: they made five more twos and they drew more fouls,
Speaker 1: but oh, what's this. They were two for twenty from
Speaker 1: three and the other team made nine out of thirty
Speaker 1: every single one d That was the most ridiculous. I
Speaker 1: think like that they've lost the more improbable teams than Oregon.
Speaker 1: But Oregon's performance was so insanely high above their means
Speaker 1: for that game. I mean, look at the last ninety
Speaker 1: seconds that half, and I listened.
Speaker 2: To during that game.
Speaker 1: I would have thrown more than that. Yeah, I listened
Speaker 1: to Hawk Talk. Bill Self was not on it today.
Speaker 1: It was instead Norm Roberts, And they asked, and they said,
Speaker 1: do you have what's your biggest regret in your entire
Speaker 1: time as Bill Self's assistant coach? He said, I wish
Speaker 1: that twenty seven team, twenty seventeen team could have got
Speaker 1: to a Final four. That was the squad that I
Speaker 1: hurt the most that they didn't get to do it.
Speaker 1: And I think that the general consensus among fans is similar.
Speaker 1: I think that's the one a lot of fans went back.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was so sad over that team.
Speaker 1: They were They were that close, and they would have
Speaker 1: had to play North Carolina in the finals, who wound
Speaker 1: up plin anything, and they were one seed, like that
Speaker 1: was the final four matchup. It's not like the twenty
Speaker 1: eleven team that would have had an eight seed and
Speaker 1: a five seed or whatever it was, a three seed
Speaker 1: whatever it was. Uh yeah, but but still that is
Speaker 1: U That is insane. As I'm watching Sports Center now
Speaker 1: and Vanderbilt had a on the The Vanderbilt women had
Speaker 1: a freshman score fifty three points to night in a game,
Speaker 1: which is the most that any D one women's basketball
Speaker 1: freshman has ever scored in the history of college basketball.
Speaker 2: Okay, but if if she scored fifty plus points, but
Speaker 2: Angel Reese didn't make a comment about it being unfair
Speaker 2: that she didn't get the same attention, did.
Speaker 1: It really, Angel Rees? Man, if that was Angel how
Speaker 1: many field goal attempts would it take Angel Reese to
Speaker 1: get to fifty three points?
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's the layups, we're talking one hundred plus.
Speaker 1: Because every single time it's and the box.
Speaker 2: Saw yeah, I'm sorry. I saw a tweet today and
Speaker 2: it was like the mcdowald's happy als now has a
Speaker 2: new Angel Reese toy and it was just like a brick.
Speaker 1: And you are cam is like at one of Angel
Speaker 1: Reese's biggest critics.
Speaker 2: I do not like Angel Rees. I've never liked her.
Speaker 2: She kind of reminds me of Sid from Ice Age,
Speaker 2: both affltic abilities. And you live in Chicago too, you
Speaker 2: should be rocking her jersey Oh, that's right, she's in
Speaker 2: the area. Maybe I'll run into Row one day. If
Speaker 2: I run into her, I'm gonna ask her to throw
Speaker 2: something into like my shopping cart at your grocery store,
Speaker 2: just because of No, she'll miss and then I'll make
Speaker 2: her pick it up.
Speaker 1: Oh she will, because then she'll get like this. She'll
Speaker 1: get a rebound and then miss again and get another rebound,
Speaker 1: and then finally it'll go in.
Speaker 2: Well, and then I'll remind her that's why Caitlin Clark
Speaker 2: won a Rookie of the Year. I'll probably get punched
Speaker 2: in the face, I'll win a civil lawsuit, and I'll retire.
Speaker 2: I have a great business plan. I just have to
Speaker 2: enact it.
Speaker 1: Hey, I don't know how much you think you're winning
Speaker 1: in that civil lawsuit if you get three years of
Speaker 1: her salary and probably would only a couple a couple
Speaker 1: of months worth of renting in the Chicago area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do operate at a loss every single year.
Speaker 2: I forgot about that work.
Speaker 1: And on that note, what do we make of Kayu's
Speaker 1: deep They gave up eighty seven points UCF made for Okay,
Speaker 1: I can do that. I am good for something and
Speaker 1: it's not ass, but you know it is the ass drop.
Speaker 1: Ken Bom didn't like this game very much. They dropp
Speaker 1: Kansas a couple of spots. Fourteen of thirty six was
Speaker 1: UCS line from three. They went two for nine over
Speaker 1: the last ten minutes. That coincides with the kJ Adams
Speaker 1: playing more Kansas. Also, you know we said this was
Speaker 1: a game. This is a loss last year, by the way,
Speaker 1: because last year Kansas didn't have three point shooting to
Speaker 1: keep up win their opponents for making threes. They didn't
Speaker 1: make more than UCF They went ten of twenty one
Speaker 1: finished minus twelve on three point point points from the
Speaker 1: three point line. But I'll tell you what, minus twelve
Speaker 1: is a hell of a lot better than the minus
Speaker 1: twenty seven that this would have been last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, Nick, Timberlake would have shot about twelve
Speaker 2: times and only four of them might have hit the rim.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Angel Reyes Bricks, Yes to the neck Timberlake experience.
Speaker 1: Tell me about tell me about the point guards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tawan Harris who has the ankles. And actually I
Speaker 2: can't make the joke I was about to make because
Speaker 2: I'd get fired. Dwan Harris did not play because of
Speaker 2: an ankle injury that happened in practice. Bill self said
Speaker 2: he hopes to have him back for Baylor on Saturday.
Speaker 2: In his place, Shaq Moore played, who did not score
Speaker 2: and only played twelve minutes. Pretty bizarre. David Quoite starred
Speaker 2: as point guard off the bench, scoring twelve points. He
Speaker 2: went four to eight for deep in twenty eight minutes
Speaker 2: and then also segue here to Ryland Griffin. He played
Speaker 2: twenty six minutes. He only had four points, also had
Speaker 2: four fouls on two for five shooting bizarre, and Aj
Speaker 2: Store was over three. He turned it over twice seven
Speaker 2: minutes and he did not blame him the second half.
Speaker 2: What do you make of that?
Speaker 1: That's a lot aj storer selves getting close to giving up.
Speaker 1: He's he's about to tap out of this one, and
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing out.
Speaker 2: I'm not a transfer portal by now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that Store Sam was going was the
Speaker 1: GoPro after this year, and there's just yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know how this will work. Both Store and Griffin can
Speaker 1: come back, and you you have to wonder how happy
Speaker 1: either one of them is with their roles. Griffin is
Speaker 1: obviously gonna have value. It's gonna be games it's wild.
Speaker 1: If you had been told they were gonna score ninety
Speaker 1: one points, especially after Saturday's performance, I think you would
Speaker 1: have bet on Griffin playing a lot more of an
Speaker 1: impact than he did. But you know, sometimes whenever you're
Speaker 1: a three point specialist, there's gonna be games like this.
Speaker 1: The guy I want I want to highlight is Koit
Speaker 1: because David Koit took a lot of crap from ku
Speaker 1: Twitter earlier in the year about how he shouldn't be
Speaker 1: on this roster, he doesn't belonging to be on a
Speaker 1: power five team, and I defended him saying that Bill self,
Speaker 1: for all his transfer portal woes over the years, Bill
Speaker 1: Self correctly identified David Koit as that's the guy I
Speaker 1: need to be an experienced leader, point guard that can
Speaker 1: handle the ball and shoot the three occasionally from the bench.
Speaker 1: I know Cooit hasn't shot the ball super well in
Speaker 1: the conference play. Actually he shot it quite terribly in
Speaker 1: conference play, as he only had two. He was two
Speaker 1: for seventeen and conference play entering this and then goes
Speaker 1: four to eight. But this is why you get a
Speaker 1: David Koit. This is why you need depth. This is
Speaker 1: why a bench helps you have to have a point
Speaker 1: guard that can dribble and not turn it over off
Speaker 1: the bench whenever you're already having point guard shortage issues.
Speaker 1: And not only that, but he went out there and
Speaker 1: he made four threes. I thought he played excellent and
Speaker 1: I thought that Bill self should definitely get commended for
Speaker 1: his transfer portal woes. He identified the exact role that
Speaker 1: he needed to fill with Quoit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knocked it out of the park with Koit.
Speaker 2: He's someone that Kansas has lacked in the last few years,
Speaker 2: kind of like when they tried to get Charlie Moore
Speaker 2: and he flopped.
Speaker 1: Have made last year, David Koit would have been such
Speaker 1: a helpful piece on last year's team to plug.
Speaker 2: In play agreed. Yeah, No, he was a piece of
Speaker 2: last year's team missed. And I think we said this
Speaker 2: earlier in the year. I mean, he's gonna go out
Speaker 2: and win Kansas a couple of games, and or maybe
Speaker 2: Bill self even said that, And I think you can
Speaker 2: make the case that he kind of did here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he absolutely did. And people are gonna be like, well,
Speaker 1: the guy that every team needs isn't Koit, It's a
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant off the bench. Well, whenever you're getting a
Speaker 1: freaking August and you have to find a backup point guard, Like,
Speaker 1: who else do you want? I thought that this worked
Speaker 1: as well as it realistically could have. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a loss without quoit, and he's had moments that he's
Speaker 1: helped them, if not win, almost win games like the
Speaker 1: Missouri comeback. Was him spearheading that charge. Like, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a valuable player. You want him to play about twelve
Speaker 1: minutes a game, but he has the ability where crap,
Speaker 1: we're missing a point guard and we need offense. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that you trust to go play twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes. Last year, when they need a timberlight
Speaker 1: to play twenty five minutes a game, you knew that
Speaker 1: they were f't not so much now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really nice to have depth on this team.
Speaker 2: It is a really comforting feeling.
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to say about aj Store. He's
Speaker 1: running out of time and I've never seen fit. I've
Speaker 1: never seen a guy hoist so many slow developing jumpers
Speaker 1: that you are stunned if any of them go in and.
Speaker 2: They look terrible to you. The rotate on the ball
Speaker 2: looks horrible. Yeah, it's it's a horrible fit. It makes
Speaker 2: me wonder why he was brought to Kansas. I understand why.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's obviously a good player. He had a
Speaker 2: really good career at Wisconsin, but in terms of the
Speaker 2: lineup fit and with Bill self, it's just it is
Speaker 2: a nightmare.
Speaker 1: Well, we knew that he was going to need to
Speaker 1: be We talked about this on the preseason show. We said,
Speaker 1: he's not a great three point shooter, he's not a
Speaker 1: great rebounder, he's not a great passer. He has one
Speaker 1: thing that he does really, really well, and that's drive
Speaker 1: to the cup and get the ball in the hoop.
Speaker 1: And he looks interested in doing anything. But there was
Speaker 1: like a two minute sequence in the first half here
Speaker 1: where I thought he did a good job attacking the basket.
Speaker 1: They didn't go in, but I thought he did a
Speaker 1: good job attacking it. Then he hoisted a long range
Speaker 1: jay turned it over a couple times, and that was
Speaker 1: curtains for the rest of the game. And normally we
Speaker 1: get irritated at Bill self for having too quick of
Speaker 1: a hook. Considering how this game was going, the defense
Speaker 1: was a struggle enough, he would have been a total
Speaker 1: liability they could. He was right not to play him,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. There's gonna be games where
Speaker 1: against the tea of the world where you'd like to
Speaker 1: think just about any combination of players will overwhelm them,
Speaker 1: where he might play well. But Store is now zero
Speaker 1: for nine from the floor in the last two games.
Speaker 1: Which is that's just jelling. Nope, it's not gelling, and
Speaker 1: it might just be too late. Final question of the
Speaker 1: recap here. So their next three games for Kansas are
Speaker 1: all interesting. Ones at Baylor is a coin flip on
Speaker 1: ken Pom. Iowa State at home matchup wise projects to
Speaker 1: be very close, although you have optimism. It's at Allen
Speaker 1: Field House hasn't been the greatest thing this year, but
Speaker 1: home game against a really good team also a coin
Speaker 1: flip for Ken Pom. Then they go on the road
Speaker 1: and play at Kansas State, not a particularly great team,
Speaker 1: but they have one two in a row, and you
Speaker 1: know that the octagon will be rocking when Kansas goes
Speaker 1: there three games that could go either way. Pick their record.
Speaker 1: What are they in their next three games?
Speaker 2: Do we know if Dwan Harris is playing.
Speaker 1: They made it sound like they made it sound like
Speaker 1: Harris is probably gonna play on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I h boy, I don't want to say
Speaker 2: I think they go through you. No, I wow saying.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I think if I had a gun to
Speaker 1: my temple and it goes off on Saturday, if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: I think I would say two and one. That seems
Speaker 1: like the.
Speaker 2: Smart I think it's safer. Yeah, but I think you.
Speaker 1: Could argue that they should be the favorite in all
Speaker 1: three games. Okay, how about this. If you were told
Speaker 1: right now they go one and two and you have
Speaker 1: to get the win, right, what would you bet on
Speaker 1: the win being?
Speaker 2: I actually think they win at home against Iowa Sight.
Speaker 1: No, that's the right one. It's you take the home
Speaker 1: even though Iowa State's the best of those three teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also I'm a little like Kansas State
Speaker 2: is playing really good. They've also played atrocious team, so
Speaker 2: there's a massive Titanic sized grain of salt in this.
Speaker 2: But they appear to have clicked a little bit, and
Speaker 2: they always get up for Kansas. Kansas only beat Case
Speaker 2: State at home by a single ditches. I can't remember
Speaker 2: the score.
Speaker 1: I think they got it to ten with light free throws,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was a dog more than you thought
Speaker 1: it would be.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, I am a little concerned that they
Speaker 2: might lose in Manhattan, but again, you know what, It's February,
Speaker 2: Billsof's teams tend to click right about now. I think
Speaker 2: they win at least two of those games.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like the call, and we'll see
Speaker 1: what we pick here later with the Baylor game coming
Speaker 1: up place they haven't won in a while. In this game,
Speaker 1: Kansas forty four percent from the floor and forty eight
Speaker 1: percent from three. It's not all the time that you
Speaker 1: see them shoot a better percent from three than two,
Speaker 1: and they did eighty six percent of the line. They
Speaker 1: continue to be very good there, plus twelve on the glass.
Speaker 1: That was awesome, especially considering UCF didn't miss a lot
Speaker 1: of shots. That's even harder to do. And they did
Speaker 1: turn it over twelve times. They didn't play without their
Speaker 1: point guard. And it seems like Kansas has a thing
Speaker 1: where in games wherever they have double digit turnovers, seventy
Speaker 1: percent of them are in the first half. It seems
Speaker 1: like they usually figure it out and turn the ball
Speaker 1: over less in the closing stretches. Except for one game
Speaker 1: the other day. Yeah, soundboard ends working. Soundboard is working
Speaker 1: as well as that, as as k you did that
Speaker 1: day ask.
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: Okay, at least I got that.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you seef by four. You seef better than
Speaker 1: we thought, Kansas. Yeah, you put a win in your pocket. Whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm good with it. They gotta they gotta start making
Speaker 1: up for some of the ones they lost, though, and
Speaker 1: Saturday would be a good place to start. Yep, let's
Speaker 1: talk about it. Big twelve games, Cam, I think the
Speaker 1: easiest way to do this. Whenever there's only two of us,
Speaker 1: I'll shout the score and you tell me what happened.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, let's let's get after it here.
Speaker 1: Big responsibilities with games this exciting. This one actually was
Speaker 1: worthy of some of some popping up here. Arizona eighty six,
Speaker 1: number three, Iowa State seventy five in overtime, and wow,
Speaker 1: what a job it was by Arizona to get it there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going a little offscript here in the game
Speaker 2: that makes absolutely zero sense, a lot like Caleb Loves selection.
Speaker 2: The Cyclones led by three with less than three seconds left.
Speaker 2: They only to see, only to see Caleb Love, who
Speaker 2: at the moment was one for ten of the night
Speaker 2: from three, splashing a sixty foot buzzer beater to force overtime,
Speaker 2: because why not. Caleb Love then apparently forgot that he
Speaker 2: couldn't shoot for the prior forty minutes of the game
Speaker 2: and went off and overtime. With twenty two points total,
Speaker 2: he lifted the Wildcats to a win. Arizona is now
Speaker 2: eight and one in outright possession of second place. Big
Speaker 2: turnaround for Tommy Lloyd.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we knew they had a talented team, and they
Speaker 1: tacked a lot of bad luck losses in the non
Speaker 1: con and they've had a lot of good luck losses
Speaker 1: here in case this one isn't enough to show you
Speaker 1: that Caleb Love is Jamis Winston minus the off the
Speaker 1: field problems. He does things that make you go, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, he's one of the best players I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: and then he does he's probably better at his craft
Speaker 1: than Winston is at his But then he'll get on unbelievable.
Speaker 1: You just got to live with it, like he's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Really tough back half of the schedule for Arizona. They
Speaker 1: have won some nice road wins this year, and this
Speaker 1: was a great win. No doubt they do have a
Speaker 1: return game at Iowa State coming up. They have to
Speaker 1: go at Kansas. They still haven't played Houston, they still
Speaker 1: haven't played Texas Tech. And they have to go at
Speaker 1: Baylor and at BYU, who's quietly having a really nice
Speaker 1: season at home. So tough back ten coming up for them,
Speaker 1: but they've definitely righted the ship. Iowa State will be fine.
Speaker 1: They've lost two games in the final second of regulation
Speaker 1: this year and that's a lousy flight home, I'm sure
Speaker 1: after this, but still a really good team. I think
Speaker 1: they're going to be better than Arizona in the standings
Speaker 1: at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agreed. Crazy, crazy game to watch.
Speaker 1: Somebody who will not be better in the standings. Well,
Speaker 1: either of these teams, especially one of them, Arizona State
Speaker 1: seventy Colorado with lots of LS sixteen to eight. I
Speaker 1: don't have any notes in this game except for Colorado's record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan quite legitimately put oh to nine. Is the
Speaker 2: only bullet point here, so Colorado.
Speaker 1: There were like four hundred souls in the stands at
Speaker 1: this game. It was a close game down the stretch.
Speaker 1: I watched Colorado try to tie it. They did not,
Speaker 1: and like six fans stood up and were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's time to go now.
Speaker 2: If you find yourself in the crowd at a Colorado
Speaker 2: basketball game in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: I think at least half of the people in the
Speaker 2: stands are just kids in diversion programs that are trying
Speaker 2: to stay off drugs, that are forced to be here.
Speaker 2: That's all right, and.
Speaker 1: Having them watch Colorado basketball with a rooting interest is
Speaker 1: not a great way to keep them drugs.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Colorado hasn't won a game in a very long time.
Speaker 1: Remember whenever they beat Yukon and Maui by a point.
Speaker 1: Whenever you can of a loss, was that for Yukon?
Speaker 1: It was bad, But also it was fluky and Yukon
Speaker 1: did not care at all. So the last team that
Speaker 1: Colorado beat was Bellermine on the Saturday.
Speaker 2: Before mist Goodness, they went the way not that long ago. Yes,
Speaker 2: they were. I saw their Their college golf team was
Speaker 2: in tournaments that I played in when I was at
Speaker 2: a D two school.
Speaker 1: Here are Colorado's nine wins. You tell me if one
Speaker 1: stands out. Eastern Washington, Northern Colorado, cal State, Fullerton, Harvard, Yukon, Pacific,
Speaker 1: Colorado State, South, Dakota State, beller Mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cal State Fullerton was a quad one one, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And up until uh Houston won at Allen Field House,
Speaker 1: Colorado had more quad one wins than Houston did.
Speaker 2: That's now definitely so sad.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you Kansas's last eleven Big twelve games
Speaker 1: and you tell me which ones they lose. Ready, yep,
Speaker 1: I just this just made me like, it doesn't have
Speaker 1: a lot to do with Colorado, but it made me
Speaker 1: think Kansas's Big twelve road schedule isn't too bad. Let's
Speaker 1: see if that's right. At Baylor win or loss, when
Speaker 1: Iowa State at home, when at Kansas State, when Colorado win,
Speaker 1: I hope at Utah win. Wow, Cam's got them on
Speaker 1: a five game streak at BYU loss, Oklahoma State win
Speaker 1: at Colorado revenge game win, Texas Tech at home win,
Speaker 1: at Houston loss, and Arizona and Senior Day win. All right,
Speaker 1: so you have them winning, you have them fifteen and
Speaker 1: five like that's.
Speaker 2: That would be great, that's a great Actually, you know what,
Speaker 2: if they can get to fifteen and five, that is
Speaker 2: a great resume for March. I think, realistically, if I
Speaker 2: could change one thing, I think they might lose to
Speaker 2: eh Man. They're just they're so due to winning Waco.
Speaker 1: Baylor and BYU. If they win one of those two
Speaker 1: road games, there's a real path to getting the fifteen wins.
Speaker 2: Agreed, Yeah, I just it's I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to talk myself into believing a little bit.
Speaker 1: Just wait till they lose in Colorado and then we
Speaker 1: really burned the show.
Speaker 2: To the ground.
Speaker 1: Speaking of sort speaking of BYU and Baylor. They played
Speaker 1: this week and it was a good one. BYU ninety three,
Speaker 1: Baylor eighty nine. Also in overtime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty three points on eight per eight from the floor,
Speaker 2: including four threes from Canan catchings. What are these names
Speaker 2: in this conference, guys, Baylor, they are exceptionally mid. It
Speaker 2: definitely will suck when Kansas loses there. I did not
Speaker 2: write this note, by the way, but they're also losing
Speaker 2: to Provos, so at least we have that consolation prize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Provo is allowed fun environment to watch a game. Also,
Speaker 1: there was a bunch of random, not very Mormon stuff
Speaker 1: happening here. Snoop Dogg was playing music overhead, and then
Speaker 1: there was Connor McGregor pumping up the BYU student section
Speaker 1: with b why you chance. Still don't know why he
Speaker 1: was there, but it looked fun, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Not the guy that you would have expected to be
Speaker 1: in Mormontown.
Speaker 2: No, I'm pretty sure he violates most of their tenant
Speaker 2: the principles of Mormonism.
Speaker 1: As does Snoop Dogg, which they top from playing the music. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Utah sixty nine, Cincinnati sixty six.
Speaker 2: Gross, Yeah, disgusting game. Youths turn it over nineteen times.
Speaker 2: Cincinnati offense sucks. They can't make anything. Gabe Manson had eighteen.
Speaker 2: Utah is four and five. Good for the utes, better
Speaker 2: than we think we may have.
Speaker 1: I don't know what we said at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year, but we may have tabbed Utah and UCF
Speaker 1: as the worst two teams in this conference, and they are.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what we said, and it's not what
Speaker 2: we said, it's what you said, and it was you.
Speaker 2: Ryan Landrith said, I am not going to pick Utah
Speaker 2: once this year.
Speaker 1: That's true, and I don't know if I have. If
Speaker 1: we're being honest, and they're they're hanging in there, and
Speaker 1: I think I also had Kansas State doing really well
Speaker 1: in the conference, so we're just, yeah, we all know,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, it was a good one. I guess
Speaker 1: I should have had this team winning number six. Houston
Speaker 1: sixty three, West Virginia forty nine. God, they just keep
Speaker 1: holding big twelve teams to these horrible point totals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like they're pretty good. The Cougars are
Speaker 2: nine to zero after getting seventeen from LJ. Cryer, who
Speaker 2: has been in college since the George W. Bush administration.
Speaker 2: West Virginia's leading score was Joseph Yesifu. Yes, that Joseph Yesafu,
Speaker 2: who could not do anything for Kansas. He had nine
Speaker 2: points and nine points out of their forty nine point
Speaker 2: total is the equivalent of scoring twenty points in a
Speaker 2: normal game. West Virginia is two and five in their
Speaker 2: last seven after starting two and oh they kind of
Speaker 2: suck and somehow beat Kansas in Kansas. I'm still very
Speaker 2: upset about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one you want back, right, Like, if
Speaker 1: that game doesn't happen, If that game doesn't happen, Kansas
Speaker 1: is seven and two, and they're right there in the
Speaker 1: thick of the conference race, but instead, you know, two
Speaker 1: all losses that you really shouldn't have lost either one
Speaker 1: of them, and a road loss out of place that
Speaker 1: everyone loses at like they are a couple flips of
Speaker 1: the coin away from being nine and one and or
Speaker 1: eight and one. I'm not saying that's really how it works,
Speaker 1: because previous Kansas teams may have found ways to get
Speaker 1: it done, but that's that's where they are, sneakily sneaking
Speaker 1: their way into the top three of this conference. Is
Speaker 1: this team number twenty two Texas tex seventy one TCU
Speaker 1: fifty seven?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I can never remember the guy's name that is
Speaker 2: a head coach there, but whatever his name is, can
Speaker 2: really coach eighteen and fourteen for JT. Toppin? Is that
Speaker 2: Obi Toppin's brother? Question Mark very well?
Speaker 1: Might be Let me look that up.
Speaker 2: Curious. Also, can we be done with Jamie Dixon? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the dude sucks. The horn Frogs are ten and ten.
Speaker 2: TCUs kind of like that guy that's sort of like
Speaker 2: decent looking and has a girlfriend that's not very good looking,
Speaker 2: and they're scared to get rid of that girlfriend because
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't know if I can do any better, dude,
Speaker 2: just cut the ties. It's time to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not happy anymore. That sometimes you'll you'll find
Speaker 1: pop on.
Speaker 2: Christian Mingle far mony.
Speaker 1: We meets plenty of fish in the tea pond right to.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's funny. Uh. TCU is a good
Speaker 1: look in college town? Aren't they like that? That that's
Speaker 1: a good campus?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so, that's what That's what Dick would always say.
Speaker 1: And since he's told me that, I I have not
Speaker 1: found many examples that would say otherwise.
Speaker 2: I well, fair enough, I mean I feel yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what, I I don't know much about TCU a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, don't even it's in Fort Worth, Texas,
Speaker 2: right it is? That's right, Yes, that's all I know
Speaker 2: about TCU.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Texas?
Speaker 2: Uh, I've fallen into Texas. I've never done anything in Texas.
Speaker 1: I'm going to Texas.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: So my wife and I like taking little road trips
Speaker 1: where we'll drive to place eight hours away and then
Speaker 1: fly back. We were in a car and drive it around
Speaker 1: and fly back or whatever, basically because I don't want
Speaker 1: to spend the money on two flights. But I also
Speaker 1: don't want to spend that much time in the car twice,
Speaker 1: and neither one of us, despite being lifetime Johnson County,
Speaker 1: Kansas residents, neither one of us have ever been to
Speaker 1: Oklahoma or Texas. So we're like, Okay, gonna go see
Speaker 1: the red dirt and see what's in Dallas, I guess,
Speaker 1: and yes, not very I think dollas we're saying is
Speaker 1: Fort Worth. Dallas is a cool city. They got a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff there. It's become incredibly over trafficked. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's TCU is the closest Big twelve school there. I'll
Speaker 1: go see how things are doing there and report back.
Speaker 1: I'll report back on the attractives campus. How to answer
Speaker 1: your question, Yes, Obi Toppin's younger brother is j T. Thompin,
Speaker 1: and their coach is Grahama Castlin, who's quietly maybe the
Speaker 1: Big twelve coach of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really good. That team is actually a good team.
Speaker 1: Good team, good home court advantage, and they have that
Speaker 1: random ass home loss to the UCF. They could be
Speaker 1: eight and one right now, which is pretty wild. Schedules
Speaker 1: about to get a lot tougher for them. Speaking of tougher,
Speaker 1: schedules on the horizon, Kansas State eighty five, Oklahoma State
Speaker 1: fifty seven. I mean, you know you'll you'll take it
Speaker 1: all sands form they've they've absolutely deserved.
Speaker 2: Don't wet the fighting your own tanks at hot as
Speaker 2: they apparently are getting hot. Sore his feet because he
Speaker 2: just kicked off the shoes washing eighteen points O Brendon thousand.
Speaker 2: The Wildcats have won two straight. Don't call it a streak.
Speaker 2: They're doing They're doing Kansas State things. And this is
Speaker 2: where I inserted the George W. Bush meme of him
Speaker 2: getting alerted to the terrorist attacks saying, my mister President,
Speaker 2: I come to warn you that Kansas State is rounding
Speaker 2: into Forum just in time for Kansas to come to Manhattan.
Speaker 1: Absolutely great, It's exactly what everybody wants to hear, right,
Speaker 1: But in all honestly, they beat they beat two horrible
Speaker 1: teams at home. I guess West Virginia beating West Virginia
Speaker 1: home is not something that everybody can say that they
Speaker 1: did there you go, but you know they beat they
Speaker 1: they did beat West Virginia home. They beat Oklahoma State
Speaker 1: at home, who's lousy. And then they go to ams
Speaker 1: this weekend well, see how that goes. Good luck, big
Speaker 1: dwell standing. Number one. I do not think it'll go well,
Speaker 1: especially off the loss. Number one is Houston they are
Speaker 1: nine to zero.
Speaker 2: Number two Arizona eight and one one.
Speaker 1: Tied for third. Somehow this is true. Are Iowa State
Speaker 1: and the Red Raiders of Texas Tech, both seven and two.
Speaker 2: All alone in number fifth is underperforming Kansas at six
Speaker 2: and three.
Speaker 1: Right behind them their next opponent and the team that's
Speaker 1: probably gonna beat them at home are in a few
Speaker 1: weeks Baylor and BYU. The Christian schools, they're five.
Speaker 2: And four, number eight West Virginia, UCF and Utah at
Speaker 2: four and five.
Speaker 1: I guess BYU is definitely not a Christian school. I
Speaker 1: was thinking TCU they are a Mormon school whatever. The
Speaker 1: religious schools, theology schools. Yeah, eleventh place are three schools that,
Speaker 1: if we're being honest, none of them need their head coach.
Speaker 1: K State, TCU, and Arizona State are all three and
Speaker 1: six and nowhere near the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all those teams could be coached by a Plunger
Speaker 2: and they'd be just the same. Number fourteen in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State two and seven, and then.
Speaker 1: Way down by the south at the bottom is Colorado
Speaker 1: with nine l's. I'm running out of spaces to put
Speaker 1: the ls. And it's not getting any better because Colorado's
Speaker 1: next games are on the road, not exactly against powerhouses,
Speaker 1: but still road games not great. And then they get
Speaker 1: Houston at home, and then they go to Allenfield House.
Speaker 1: Oh and thirteen coming right up for a Tad Boyle gooflows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess that's also. Yeah, there you go, and for
Speaker 1: Tad Boyle, all right, this has.
Speaker 2: To be it. He's gonna have a great career coaching
Speaker 2: the Guangdong Tigers.
Speaker 1: I think the Gwandong Tigers can do better. He's been
Speaker 1: coaching at Colorado since twenty ten, and he's had a
Speaker 1: good career there. They've made the tournament four or five times,
Speaker 1: Like this is this is a team that this is
Speaker 1: a coach that's had some success. But I don't know
Speaker 1: how you can look your donors in the eyes and
Speaker 1: say we're signing up for more of this guy after
Speaker 1: they go over money. Oh yeah, that's the answer to everything.
Speaker 1: Other games. Who gets plenty of anile money is Duke
Speaker 1: and the ACC is a three horse race with the
Speaker 1: number two Blue Devils sitting at the top. They are
Speaker 1: ten and oh they have the longest winning streaking college
Speaker 1: basketball right now. They beat North Carolina State behind twenty
Speaker 1: eight points from Cooper Flag in a game that had everything.
Speaker 1: Their center chugged too much gatorade and threw up on
Speaker 1: the court. They had to stop the game for it.
Speaker 1: That somebody passed out in the student section and they
Speaker 1: had to stop the game to wheel that poor kid
Speaker 1: out of the out of there. They're fine now. We
Speaker 1: mentioned on the last show so we can make jokes
Speaker 1: about it. They just watched Kansas's ums and yeah, they're
Speaker 1: totally fine. Weird game won by the Blue Devils, much
Speaker 1: like the rest. Right behind the Blue Devils is Clemson
Speaker 1: and number twenty one Louisville. They're nine and one in
Speaker 1: league play. Louisville has gone from six and five to
Speaker 1: sixteen and five by beating ten straight unranked teams. Jay
Speaker 1: Williams said that he has John Shire higher then Pat
Speaker 1: Kelcey on his Coach of the Year ranks. And the
Speaker 1: literal only reason that you can say that's the thing
Speaker 1: is if is if if you go there's my gosh,
Speaker 1: there's no other way to do that. Hey, I'm watching
Speaker 1: Sports Center right now and Jared Goff on, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: won the past Precision Challenge that the Games Cam that's
Speaker 1: as good as at Washington.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I turned on Twitter. I logged into Twitter or whatever,
Speaker 2: and I'm scrolling through and it's like Jared Goff is
Speaker 2: putting on quite their performance in the cancun or wherever
Speaker 2: it is Pro Bowl, and I was like, Man, that's
Speaker 2: the most depressing thing that I've read today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what happened. The NFC is kicking ass here,
Speaker 1: which makes up for the lack of Super Bowls they've
Speaker 1: won against Patrick Mahomes the last half decade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably going to continue the same thing, oh Man.
Speaker 2: Running down time to build an NCAA case for the
Speaker 2: tournament is unranked North Carolina, coached by a life sized
Speaker 2: I don't know, plunger, Hubert Davis. They lost at Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: to fall the seventh in the ACC to six and four.
Speaker 2: They were just thirteen to nine overall. They have zero
Speaker 2: wins against teams that are currently ranked. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: AC Davis.
Speaker 1: The ACC is so awful too, Like half of those
Speaker 1: teams have already basically been in eliminated from the NCAA conversation.
Speaker 1: There are some bad teams in the ACC. Like, the
Speaker 1: worst Power five team not named to Paul that I've
Speaker 1: seen in a while is Miami. There and there Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1: Freaking what who else is in that conference? That's just buns.
Speaker 1: Boston College hasn't.
Speaker 2: Been anything since forgot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing I can I know about Boston
Speaker 1: College basketball is that's where the guy cried when he said,
Speaker 1: I just liked how our teammates could go out to
Speaker 1: eat after they had that completely winless season. Remember that
Speaker 1: the kid, the kid crying after they lost every conference game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I know about them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh, it's funny. I looked up Miami basketball
Speaker 2: and the picture that came up was a plumber's buck crack.
Speaker 2: And this.
Speaker 1: They haven't wont I told you. I told you they
Speaker 1: have more coaches than wins in the last like like
Speaker 1: fifteen games or something like that. When they up and quit,
Speaker 1: that's that's wild. In the Big Ten, we don't have
Speaker 1: much to say here, but number seven Michigan State. They
Speaker 1: keep streaking. They've won the thirteen in a row. They
Speaker 1: beat Joe Biden's favorite state. For those of you who
Speaker 1: don't know what that state is, well, Number ten and
Speaker 1: Michigan sit a couple of games behind them. I I
Speaker 1: quickly steamrolled there before Cam could make political conversations because
Speaker 1: in the inside of the main podcast, we are all
Speaker 1: very happy with the direction that the country is going up.
Speaker 2: What I'm not gonna say anything. I have no words
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 1: But we're also not gonna say it's worse than it
Speaker 1: was under the last administration, because again on this podcast,
Speaker 1: we take no political affiliation, especially not whenever we have
Speaker 1: we have drops on the show like this, get that
Speaker 1: son of a.
Speaker 2: Now oh man, that was.
Speaker 1: That's Bill self watching aj Storre turn it over twice
Speaker 1: in seven minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think a store might get locked away
Speaker 2: in a basement if we're not careful, we might actually
Speaker 2: we actually might. I hear from him again, didn't they
Speaker 2: say guant Guantanano Bay is.
Speaker 1: Opening back up? I would be careful if I may
Speaker 1: Bill Bill there, He's got to be very very careful.
Speaker 2: And make sure that citizenship is all good to go.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Saint Mary's who is unranked and desperate for quality wins
Speaker 2: in a league that there aren't any four quality wins.
Speaker 2: Went on a job, dropping thirty to zero runs spanning
Speaker 2: thirteen minutes. They flipped a two point deficit into a
Speaker 2: twenty eight point lead. Also was against Santa Claus Santa Clara,
Speaker 2: so not sure that counts much. The Gills are not
Speaker 2: in over the WCC. Meanwhile, Gonzaga, who is currently unranked,
Speaker 2: their two games behind them after taking revenge out on
Speaker 2: Oregon State beating them by thirty eight points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like another one of those Gonzaga has
Speaker 1: to win if Gonzaga wants to win the conference, which
Speaker 1: doesn't matter as much anymore because their streak died last year.
Speaker 1: They better hope Saint Mary's chokes. I bet that won't happen.
Speaker 1: Saint Mary's never they choked. There it goes again. Gonzaga
Speaker 1: won the league like every single year that happens. Oh, well,
Speaker 1: teams play this weekend and yeah, that'll be probably not
Speaker 1: very entertaining. It was another round of entertaining games in
Speaker 1: the Southeastern Conference. Is number one Auburn. They keep on winning.
Speaker 1: They won at number one LSU or they number one
Speaker 1: Auburn one at LSU number twenty three Old Miss helped
Speaker 1: Chris Beard beat his own or his old I'm having
Speaker 1: a tough time he there it is, beat his old
Speaker 1: Texas team by three and number four Alabama attribute to
Speaker 1: the Brandon Miller years, picked up an impressive eighty eight
Speaker 1: to eighty four win at number four Mississippi State. Great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great schools here in the SEC. Poorter Moser's lousy Oklahoma
Speaker 1: team also picked up another loss by losing at number
Speaker 1: thirteen Texas A and M hy wouldn't they There are
Speaker 1: ten ranked teams in this league, unbelievably, but everybody is
Speaker 1: fighting for third place in the conference because Auburn and
Speaker 1: Alabama exist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty weird. The biggest winner of this week was
Speaker 2: number twelve Kentucky. They went into Thompson Boilet Bowling and
Speaker 2: beat number eight Tennessee seventy eight to seventy three. The
Speaker 2: Wildcats shot fifty percent. They made twelve threes on one
Speaker 2: of college basketball's best defenses, with eighteen points coming from
Speaker 2: Colby Pray they have. By the way, Kentucky has his
Speaker 2: only team in the country I saw earlier today to
Speaker 2: have four top ten wins on the season.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, that checks out.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: They also were aided by the fact that Tennessee missed
Speaker 1: thirty four threes, quit taking them. Stop shooting the ball
Speaker 1: whenever you missed your thirty three of the night and
Speaker 1: the game's still close. Good Lord. Speaking of good Lord,
Speaker 1: do you remember Cam there was a time when Georgetown
Speaker 1: was good. I don't know if you remember that.
Speaker 2: I do remember that very vaguely.
Speaker 1: I believe the last memory of Georgetown being good that
Speaker 1: I have is Florida Gulf Coast dunk you just completely ending.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I think that ended their entire program.
Speaker 1: And if you remember, Georgetown that year was Kansas's two seed,
Speaker 1: and so we were like, oh my gosh, the twenty
Speaker 1: thirteen Jayhawks are gonna walk to the Final four. Absolutely
Speaker 1: nothing is gonna get in their way now, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: Worst show chapter in history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway about Georgetown, they are not now. They're not
Speaker 1: good now. They fell behind thirty seven to eight versus
Speaker 1: number fifteen Saint John's. It will shock you that they
Speaker 1: wound up losing by twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Rick Patino. By the way, Rick
Speaker 2: Patino today pleaded with Kentucky fans to give John Caliparia
Speaker 2: a standing ovation when he comes to Russ. I saw
Speaker 2: that weekend.
Speaker 1: He got booed when he went back there. I think
Speaker 1: so that says a lot. I they should Callano. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a little different, granted.
Speaker 2: Because he went to Louisville, right, Uh, he went to
Speaker 2: the Did he go to the NBA?
Speaker 1: He went to the NBA and I can't remember jobs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he went to the Let's suck it up, Rick Patino.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, there's a face. Hey, Rick Pattino. Is he
Speaker 1: does things his way? Yeah, he went to the Boston.
Speaker 1: He went to the Boston celt in between Kentucky and Louisville.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well checks out. I don't know, but anyway, yeah,
Speaker 2: they should they should give him a you know, they
Speaker 2: should give him a standard. O.
Speaker 1: There still Louisville though, like like that's there's still big rivals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cali Perry won a title there. He absolutely should get
Speaker 1: a standing. Oh and I don't think the game is
Speaker 1: gonna go very well for.
Speaker 2: Cal No, No, they suck. It'll be pretty much a
Speaker 2: nice reminder of why he's no longer there did in
Speaker 2: another classic of did de Paul win? The answer is no. Uh.
Speaker 2: They also had eleven at number twenty five, Yukon who
Speaker 2: we're still trying to figure out how they're ranked.
Speaker 1: How the Arizona not ranked and Yukon is.
Speaker 2: It's because Dan Hurley is the best coach in the sport,
Speaker 2: and everyone is scared because they think they're gonna He's
Speaker 2: gonna shoot them if if they don't rank them.
Speaker 1: Not just the best coach in the sport, he's the
Speaker 1: best coach in the sport.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, yes, absolutely. He also might be just Mike
Speaker 2: Woodson without Donovan clinging.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yep, some are saying, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, they led by fourteen when Ryan and Landen went
Speaker 2: into an escape room and they texted me in before
Speaker 2: they went to the skape room and asked me what
Speaker 2: the final score would be and I said something that
Speaker 2: I can't read on air. And when they came out,
Speaker 2: they collected another loss. And also somewhere else in that league,
Speaker 2: shock a sparts number nine. Marquette won by nine at
Speaker 2: Butler to ruin a potential three hundred dollars plus payout
Speaker 2: via a cam parlay, which I ended up cashing out
Speaker 2: for I think like thirty bucks.
Speaker 1: So sad say, hey, that's.
Speaker 2: That's that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we can see the riding on the wall.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Penny Hardaway, he ends up making you some
Speaker 1: money and I.
Speaker 2: I know he did not. I cashed it out for
Speaker 2: five dollars.
Speaker 1: P No, No, you did not.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't let it ride. The one time that
Speaker 1: you don't let something.
Speaker 2: Ride, it sucks. It's it's hard. But I also did
Speaker 2: bet on UCLA and because of Oregon, Oregon might be
Speaker 2: the biggest fraud in cal basketball. Actually, I need to go.
Speaker 1: Back to the last show and drop the bit where
Speaker 1: Landon says do you win bets? That needs to be
Speaker 1: a sound clip on this show. Yeah, I just push
Speaker 1: every dime that you're like, I bet on this and
Speaker 1: it didn't work because du.
Speaker 2: We know me, me betting on games bites me in
Speaker 2: the butt And here's you ran. In fact the week
Speaker 2: speaking of biting the butt, were you aware that in
Speaker 2: World War two there was a Battle of Ramerie Island,
Speaker 2: where Japanese soldiers had holed up for months at a time,
Speaker 2: eating all of the natural resources for food, and surrounding
Speaker 2: the island were thousands of hunger crocodiles that were pissed
Speaker 2: because they didn't have food. Well, the British showed up
Speaker 2: and drove them out of the jungle, and these poor
Speaker 2: bastards went into the water and they were eating alive
Speaker 2: by crocodiles.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's almost like mankind does not have a history
Speaker 1: of being awesome to each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, they suck. We all suck. It's really bad.
Speaker 1: That's horrible. I mean, that's I like how you're your
Speaker 1: fact of the days are getting more more violent. I
Speaker 1: look forward to the mid February shows for Cam's like,
Speaker 1: so fun fact for most amount of people gunned down
Speaker 1: by a single serial killer.
Speaker 2: Is yeah, like fun fact. The guilt the guillotine was
Speaker 2: invented in thirteen hundred.
Speaker 1: Hey, we have said that certain people in sports should
Speaker 1: be sent to the guillotine. I think Dan Hurley should
Speaker 1: be first.
Speaker 2: According to this article that I'm currently reading, supposedly over
Speaker 2: five hundred Japanese soldiers were eating alive about crocodiles.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's insane. Those are probably the fat crocodiles. If
Speaker 1: they could eat people, I gotta think that they're well.
Speaker 2: Also, keep this in mind, crocodiles can live for over
Speaker 2: one hundred years, so some of them might still be
Speaker 2: alive today, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: It's not like this is not like one of those
Speaker 1: times where it happens like in a civil area and
Speaker 1: they end up euthanizing an animal.
Speaker 2: When that does, Oh no, I ain't.
Speaker 1: They're they are probably still roaming the streets or the jungles,
Speaker 1: if you will. Yeah, right, teams to lose, Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: don't go in there. Right aims to lose. It is
Speaker 1: the last time we did a podcast. You have to
Speaker 1: lead off with number eight Tennessee. They were the only
Speaker 1: top eight or the top ten team to lose this week.
Speaker 1: They lost to the fighting fighting Mark Pops. Now they're
Speaker 1: not the pay Pal cows.
Speaker 2: Yeah that they are not. Number fourteen Mississippi State lost
Speaker 2: to Alabama.
Speaker 1: Number seventeen Wisconsin lost to Maryland, the only state in
Speaker 1: the Union named after a person.
Speaker 2: Yeah we that was brought up on the last show.
Speaker 2: And the number I can barely read right now. Number
Speaker 2: eighteen Illinois lost at Nebrasketball. Big win for the Huskers,
Speaker 2: who are now thirteen and eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big win for the for Nebrasketball, and also a
Speaker 1: truly awful loss for Illinois, who I had higher expectations
Speaker 1: of than my expectations were. Don't lose to a Nebraska
Speaker 1: team that I'd lost like seven in a row. Don't
Speaker 1: do that. They did. It's not like Bill's gonna do
Speaker 1: something similar in Kansas State.
Speaker 2: Next week, for sure, is probably gonna have.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do ask RCB, do you like eating
Speaker 1: questions or do you prefer to have the questions read
Speaker 1: to you? Are you a pillow Prentice?
Speaker 2: I do it. That is the worst thing that's ever
Speaker 2: been asked on the show. No, I'm not. And also
Speaker 2: you should read them, because the last time that I
Speaker 2: read them, it didn't go well, all right, I heard
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 1: I mean no, we've definitely said worse right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it insinuates. I also said I'd rather
Speaker 2: get penetrated by a chuck e cheese animatic than to
Speaker 2: watch Patrick Mahomes play for Kansas.
Speaker 1: See that would imply that the answer to the question
Speaker 1: I just asked is yes.
Speaker 2: But as a hypothetical, I don't go out on it.
Speaker 2: I don't go to I'm I'm actually you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm not allowed within five hundred feet of a chuck
Speaker 2: of cheese.
Speaker 1: You and uh you and uh Rick Patino both at
Speaker 1: this point because just look at I need to close
Speaker 1: this tab with Rick Patino's face up at James D. Bedford.
Speaker 1: James D. Bedford says, I can't find Landon's other podcasts.
Speaker 1: Can you repeat the name of it?
Speaker 2: Nice?
Speaker 1: And since he didn't know the name of it, yes,
Speaker 1: I can so. Landon's Landon's new podcast is the rate
Speaker 1: log review podcast where I believe it is all based
Speaker 1: on movies. It is a great Name's got good good
Speaker 1: cover art as well. It is on Spotify. Not sure
Speaker 1: if it's on the Apple App Store yet or the
Speaker 1: podcast store. I looked it up on Spotify and if
Speaker 1: you go to Rock Chalk Blogs, replies the tweets that
Speaker 1: I've made in response to others, you will see that
Speaker 1: I tweeted at James D. Bedford the link to that
Speaker 1: if anybody is interested. Had a couple of people ask
Speaker 1: me to that, so it is in there. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: does good work. James also asks if the Big twelve
Speaker 1: mascots like a literal bear and a literal buffalo are
Speaker 1: all fighting to the death, which one wins?
Speaker 2: Uh? A bear?
Speaker 1: I think right, it's a freaking cyclone, isn't it. It has
Speaker 1: to be a cyclone.
Speaker 2: Oh, cyclone? Is that just Mother Nature?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But a cyclone's taken out a bear probably what
Speaker 1: the options here? We have a wildcat, two wildcats, we
Speaker 1: have a I mean, a buffalo would be pretty tough.
Speaker 1: Jayhawk would wouldn't put up much of a fight. A
Speaker 1: horned frog is roadkill. A mountaineer is not doing too
Speaker 1: hot in this scenario.
Speaker 2: A mountaineer can't even read. I always felt like a
Speaker 2: buffalo was like just trying to like if you had
Speaker 2: to like try to guide a buffalod be like trying
Speaker 2: to guide a minivan that's alive.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Like I want to say, like a cougar
Speaker 1: or a wildcat, they have more teeth, they might be
Speaker 1: able to do more physical damage, but they're not nearly
Speaker 1: as big as a buffalo that can just flat out
Speaker 1: run you over.
Speaker 2: If I can make a mascot that was the fighting
Speaker 2: cyclone buffalos, I don't think the team.
Speaker 1: Would ever lose the FCBS. Yeah, they wouldn't have a
Speaker 1: great NCAA tournament case. But I think that a buffalo
Speaker 1: clears everything but a cyclone. Actually, I think i'd take
Speaker 1: a buffalo over a bear. Buffaloes are huge.
Speaker 2: Buffaloes are massive. The Great Ta Tunka.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you just want to say, like the
Speaker 1: Iowa state logo is the bird. I guess you could.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm saying cyclone takes out Buffalo, takes out bear all
Speaker 1: the way down to a jayhawk might be last. If
Speaker 1: we're being honest, it's Jay Oxen Holds Smith who can divers. Right.
Speaker 1: They't even real so they're not even in this tournament.
Speaker 2: The fourth horseman of the Apocalypse is a cyclone that
Speaker 2: has buffalo attached to it. At least that's what I
Speaker 2: read the Bible. I think that's that's the winner.
Speaker 1: Right there. We need land In here to vari something
Speaker 1: at Bentley Hunt fifteen with a fun hypothetical question. Here
Speaker 1: if West Virginia we might remember in the twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen, West Virginia was close to knocking off Villanova.
Speaker 1: They did not do it. If they do in that scenario,
Speaker 1: does Kansas win the national title? Oh boy, what a
Speaker 1: scenario that is. So who did Villanova beat in the
Speaker 1: Elite eight that year? Who would it have been West
Speaker 1: Virginia against? It was Texas? Was that the Texas Tech year?
Speaker 1: The Texas Tech ye the other day? Okay, so it
Speaker 1: would have been West Virginia that was. It would have
Speaker 1: been West Virginia and Texas Tech and the Elite Eight,
Speaker 1: two teams that Kansas had beaten that year, So you
Speaker 1: would have been looking at a Final four rematch or
Speaker 1: a Big twelve rematch in the final four. And you
Speaker 1: gotta think Kansas as good of a chance as any
Speaker 1: And I think whoever gets there is beating that lousy
Speaker 1: path Merchant Michigan team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, I think you're right. I
Speaker 2: think Kansas probably does.
Speaker 1: I think that they have a good chance. I'm not
Speaker 1: willing to say they do because there's a chance, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: I think they're the best bet on that side of
Speaker 1: the bracket for sure. At Bob Rockschalk, Is anyone else
Speaker 1: losing interest in this sport when teams are new every year.
Speaker 1: The other night, there was a moment when all five
Speaker 1: guys on the floor weren't on the team last year,
Speaker 1: and there's going to be a moment next year where
Speaker 1: there will only be one, if any guys on the
Speaker 1: floor that were here this year. Okay, So that's a
Speaker 1: point that I've seen. I've seen a lot of people
Speaker 1: on message boards complain about that. It doesn't really hit
Speaker 1: me as much because I'm used to, you know, like
Speaker 1: Major League baseball. College football is turned into this like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of turnover, but I can definitely, Like,
Speaker 1: I go to the games with my eighty one year
Speaker 1: old grandma who has been a season ticket holder for
Speaker 1: forty years, and she complains about that. She she is
Speaker 1: awesome and there's no one that knows more about Kansas
Speaker 1: basketball than her. But she says that all the time.
Speaker 1: She said, this is hard to follow. It takes me
Speaker 1: five games every year to learn everybody's numbers and names
Speaker 1: because it's so different every year. It's not the same.
Speaker 1: And she's right, and the product might not be as good.
Speaker 1: The eye test says, yeah, the quality is not as good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, it's not the same. I miss having
Speaker 2: four of your players in programs.
Speaker 1: At Jayhawk Junkies. How many beers did Bobby Huggins drink
Speaker 1: after Kenyon Martin broke his leg? Boy, I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: Hold on, while you answer this hypothetical, I'm gonna look
Speaker 2: something up on Bob Huggins.
Speaker 1: Oh no, well, Bob Huggins, Like, so the Kenyon Martin thing,
Speaker 1: way way way way back?
Speaker 2: What went was that?
Speaker 1: That was in two thousand? I think he was Bob
Speaker 1: Huggin was still at Cincinnati at that point. Yeah, before
Speaker 1: multiple DUIs.
Speaker 2: What I was trying to find out is how many
Speaker 2: beer cans he had in his car when he was arrested. Uh,
Speaker 2: but he had a point to one percent BAC when
Speaker 2: he was arrested. Uh, he had beer cans in the
Speaker 2: trunk and he couldn't operate. He had problems like getting
Speaker 2: the car to stop. So by my calculations, he probably
Speaker 2: would consume about twenty five beers.
Speaker 1: And a point to one for Bob Huggins is the
Speaker 1: equivalent of cam Andite having like a point Yeah, because
Speaker 1: because Bob Huggins takes a lot of beers. So you
Speaker 1: get a man that size to a point.
Speaker 2: He's large and he drinks a lot or he used to.
Speaker 1: Yes, doesn't seem like a lightweight by any stretch. AJ Stevenson.
Speaker 1: Is Bill self going to let kJ give a speech
Speaker 1: on Senior Night? Or is he going to hold on
Speaker 1: to him like hundred Dickinson did to that jump ball.
Speaker 1: That's pretty funny. That's really funny.
Speaker 2: Actually, I don't have anything that one.
Speaker 1: I'll at that one. That's pretty funny. He's gonna give
Speaker 1: him a well, he's gonna give them a game ball.
Speaker 2: That just says, you know, this is you mad? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah that too. At Aoz Burner says the fog
Speaker 1: hasn't had the same magic as the years past. Are
Speaker 1: you blaming the video boards Wi Fi inclusion of air conditioning?
Speaker 1: He says, I'm blaming the ace. That's that's fair. That
Speaker 1: seems reasonable it do you.
Speaker 2: I kind of think it's just the they took away
Speaker 2: some seats and I don't know it. The video board
Speaker 2: I don't love, I don't know's. It's just they they
Speaker 2: might have ruined a little bit of it in my opinion.
Speaker 1: So one thing that is undeniably true, and I see
Speaker 1: people bitch about this all the time, and the right
Speaker 1: is people are on their phones a lot during games.
Speaker 1: They show the crowd and people in this student section
Speaker 1: are filming games or making snapchats or tiktoks or whatever. Well,
Speaker 1: those of us who didn't delete the app, uh, that
Speaker 1: that is that is definitely a thing in in in fans.
Speaker 1: It's always happening everywhere. It's not just the Kansas games
Speaker 1: at all sports, it's all venues. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: particularly fair for people to get on Twitter and say
Speaker 1: people should not be on their phones. The WiFi is
Speaker 1: a distraction all that, because you know what you can't
Speaker 1: bout you buy a ticket, you're sitting there. You can
Speaker 1: know whoever you want for all. I don't like when
Speaker 1: fans tell other fans how to be fans if they
Speaker 1: paid for the ticket, don't act like that that you're
Speaker 1: above them in terms of fandom. But I do kind
Speaker 1: of understand the building's a little quieter. I don't think
Speaker 1: you can necessarily blame the losses because those were just
Speaker 1: two wonky ass losses that happens regardless, like and also,
Speaker 1: I think the big answer here is Kansas's run when
Speaker 1: Alan field House was at its peak, and Kansas literally
Speaker 1: would go like two years out of time between losses.
Speaker 1: That's not sustainable. That is just an all time insane
Speaker 1: run where Bill self lost nine home games in his
Speaker 1: first eleven years. That's not happening anywhere, regardless of Wi
Speaker 1: Fi or air conditioning or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably never gonna happen again, honestly.
Speaker 1: And Allen field House is still the best home court
Speaker 1: advantage in the country. That's just kind of the way
Speaker 1: that that gen Z is now with this, Like that's
Speaker 1: the way it is I'm twenty nine. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: barely a millennial. But like so, I'm starting to watch
Speaker 1: younger generations that. Yes, whenever I would go to Kansas
Speaker 1: games fifteen years ago, people were on their phones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the answer is, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it's going away. You can't make people not
Speaker 1: be on their phones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: At Elliott, Russ and h How good of a team
Speaker 1: is KU's transfer outs as eg the best version of players,
Speaker 1: it's Charlie Moore, Bryce Thompson, Tyan Grant Foster, Zubi Edgefoor,
Speaker 1: and Ernest Ouday. That's if that's the transfer out team,
Speaker 1: that's not a tournament team. I don't think maybe Tyon
Speaker 1: Grant Foster carries them there. Bryce Thompson's been in school
Speaker 1: as long as Hunter Dickinson has.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably that's probably an n team. Actually he had.
Speaker 1: Elliott does add that he should have added Quentin Grimes. Yes,
Speaker 1: Quentin Grimes at Houston was an All American player. He
Speaker 1: was very good. I think that if you're looking at
Speaker 1: the transfer OUs TGF for sure, Quentin Grimes for sure.
Speaker 1: Bryce Thompson's had the longevity enough you need a big
Speaker 1: so throw Zoobie in there. And I guess sure, throw
Speaker 1: Ernest in there. Yeah, I'm not a lot of teams
Speaker 1: have had really pivotal pieces transfer out. I'm not looking
Speaker 1: at any of those guys and thinking, man, they blew
Speaker 1: it letting that guy walk out the door.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's not I don't know. That's an interesting thought,
Speaker 2: but no, they wouldn't be that good.
Speaker 1: And then the last question here at Dick underscore taser,
Speaker 1: Why are k you fans so miserable? Everyone is hate watching?
Speaker 1: Makes me sad. Everyone is witching hunt at Dwan and
Speaker 1: kJ are off the team saying I can't wait for
Speaker 1: next year. Adds basketball is supposed to be fun. It's
Speaker 1: just the game, folks, that that is what we need
Speaker 1: more of Wayne Hurry. And it's worth pointing out that
Speaker 1: the same people bitching about all that stuff, the Jayhawks
Speaker 1: are still the ninth best team in college basketball Accord
Speaker 1: and Ken Pond, this is this is the team you're
Speaker 1: complaining about. They're still really damn good.
Speaker 2: They're a lot better than last year too. I mean
Speaker 2: early in the year we were wondering that it's a
Speaker 2: lot better than the last year. No, they're they're fine.
Speaker 1: If at if at some point you find yourself less
Speaker 1: happy with anything regarding sports, it is fair to question
Speaker 1: if sports are best at your current level of rooting interest.
Speaker 1: You should not spend more time being unhappy with Kansas
Speaker 1: than you spend with them for being happy with them,
Speaker 1: especially when they're this good.
Speaker 2: Like, dude, if if it if it's that bad, like
Speaker 2: do the Chris Beard route, like take it out on
Speaker 2: some domestic violence.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, well, okay, I don't do that.
Speaker 2: Those thoughts are not endorsed by any of us on
Speaker 2: inside of paint, including Cam who is possibly seeking employment
Speaker 2: at some point, so that that is not the real statement. However,
Speaker 2: this is sact.
Speaker 1: They're not looking for employment. You have inside the paint, inside.
Speaker 2: The paint will always be here for you.
Speaker 1: And then final, just an observation here at show me
Speaker 1: says I've been doing some sleuthing on BARTRVIC and Kansas
Speaker 1: is currently ranked twelve. Here is Kansas's ranks on January
Speaker 1: thirtieth of previous years. Last year they were also twelve.
Speaker 1: The year before that, they were also twelve the year
Speaker 1: before that. Their natty year, they were tenth twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one the outlier here they were forty ninth, and then
Speaker 1: you go first and twenty the team that didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to play in the tournament. And then in
Speaker 1: nineteen they were eighteenth, and then their final fourteen they
Speaker 1: were fifth. So they're right about what they have been
Speaker 1: in the last few years. And I think that's a
Speaker 1: really good observation. The last four years on January thirtieth,
Speaker 1: Kansas has been between ten and twelve. What do you
Speaker 1: got a Natty.
Speaker 2: Year in there?
Speaker 1: You got a one seed in there, you have a
Speaker 1: year where the floor fell out, you didn't make the
Speaker 1: second weekend, and you have a year that could be
Speaker 1: any of those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll be fine. It just feels different because it's
Speaker 2: a different style of basketball and they're losing some games
Speaker 2: that didn't lose in the past.
Speaker 1: That's all it is. It just goes to show that
Speaker 1: you could be about the twelfth best team in the
Speaker 1: country on January thirtieth and have your season end with
Speaker 1: confetti and net cutting, or it could end with a
Speaker 1: really disappointing second round loss. Yep, sure can whatever dam
Speaker 1: is your coach, right? That is sports. If you ever
Speaker 1: have askedcarcbs use the Twitter hashtag ask ARCB appreciate that
Speaker 1: round of questions that was like an All star round
Speaker 1: where everybody that was asking those I recognize names and
Speaker 1: appreciate all of you guys' listens and questions.
Speaker 2: Yep bee.
Speaker 1: All right, let's preview a game. We go to Mark
Speaker 1: and Paula Hurd court to Dix that should never have
Speaker 1: their name on that damn court. I don't care how
Speaker 1: much they donated. And I can say more profane things
Speaker 1: on this episode because Landon isn't here, So take that.
Speaker 2: Am I supposed to run with this?
Speaker 1: If you want? Number eleven Kansas unranked Baylor on the
Speaker 1: first day of February. It is a Saturday, three o'clock
Speaker 1: on ESPN Plus. Now I'm just kidding. It's on TV.
Speaker 2: Thank goodness. Scot Drews Baylor Bears. They are disappointing thirteen
Speaker 2: and seven. I'm the season through twenty games. They're nine
Speaker 2: and one at home, but the best win of those
Speaker 2: nine at Cincinnati should not count. They're just two and
Speaker 2: four against ranked teams. Ten Palm has him as the
Speaker 2: twenty six best team in the country that is excellent
Speaker 2: on the offense and a sub seventy sub top seventy
Speaker 2: five team on the defensive end.
Speaker 1: Which normally Baylor's the other way around. Normally they are
Speaker 1: defense first, and they're just not this year. Two freshmen
Speaker 1: run the show in Waco, with the headliner being lottery
Speaker 1: pick lock vj Edgecombe, a six ' five, do it
Speaker 1: all wing that averages fifteen points, five rebounds, three rebounds
Speaker 1: or three assists and two steals per game. He is
Speaker 1: the athletics specimen here and Hawk Talk earlier Norman Roberts
Speaker 1: compared his athleticism to something you only see in an
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins caliber player. He is a freak thirty nine
Speaker 1: percent three point shooter, very good at the free throw line,
Speaker 1: and arguably the most athletic player in the conference. He
Speaker 1: has fed good looks by two point guards. Baylor has
Speaker 1: freshman Robert Wright the third, who is your athletic do
Speaker 1: everything drive to the cup thirteen points, five assists and
Speaker 1: a thirty six percent shooting mark. And then there's duke
Speaker 1: transfer Jeremy Roach, expected back from this game, who has
Speaker 1: been solid but unspectacular this year by averaging twelve and
Speaker 1: a mediocre three point mark. Jada Nunn is also here
Speaker 1: to serve as the team's best three point shooter. He
Speaker 1: makes forty four percent of his threes.
Speaker 2: The front court stars six foot seven power forward nor
Speaker 2: Chad Omier who Ohmia, I guess who leads a team
Speaker 2: with fifteen points and ten rebounds per game. He's a
Speaker 2: hybrid four man that could play anywhere, but he only
Speaker 2: shoots thirty one percent from deep. Cue the music. The
Speaker 2: Bears do have six foot ten inch josh Ojinawa. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think that's butchered as a five man.
Speaker 2: They win. They want to play big, and he adds
Speaker 2: seven to seven while shooting almost eighty percent from the floor.
Speaker 2: He's very matchup dependent. He's also prone to foul trouble
Speaker 2: when he plays a lot.
Speaker 1: So I've been doing. I always put together kind of
Speaker 1: my analysis on what I notice, and I combine that
Speaker 1: with stats. I've watched Baylor quite a bit this year,
Speaker 1: and I really can't get a feel for this team.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of talent on this roster. Edgecomb is
Speaker 1: the best player from an NBA ceiling in the entire conference.
Speaker 1: They have two good point guards that none of those
Speaker 1: three are even their leading scorers. That that's their starting
Speaker 1: center who averages fifteen to ten and yet Baylor still
Speaker 1: has a pretty middling record. The raw stats match exactly
Speaker 1: what Ken Palm says. Baylor is great on offense. They
Speaker 1: have no shortage of defensive problems. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I'll start with the pros. They are an excellent three
Speaker 1: point shooting team at thirty seven percent. They're a good
Speaker 1: passing team. They take good care of the ball. They
Speaker 1: played a fast pace, which you would expect with such
Speaker 1: an athletic and fast team. They also are elite on
Speaker 1: the offensive glass. That is Scott Drew one oh one.
Speaker 1: That is what they've always done. Jamie Dixon teams force turnovers.
Speaker 1: Bill Selth teams feed the paint. Scott Drew teams rebound
Speaker 1: on the offensive glass. Defensively, though, this is an abysmal
Speaker 1: team when it comes to rebounding the ball. Teams have
Speaker 1: lit them up from three point range this year. There's
Speaker 1: a debate does three point defense actually serve as a thing. Well,
Speaker 1: if it does, Baylor's horrendous at it. They foul a lot.
Speaker 1: They don't have a very deep bench to help them
Speaker 1: when that happens. That's more of their problem. They have
Speaker 1: a good starting five, but they get into foul trouble
Speaker 1: a lot, and the bench isn't deep enough to keep
Speaker 1: them alive. They also struggle getting to the free throw
Speaker 1: line and they're one of the worst two point shooting
Speaker 1: squads in the conference. Weird team. Good on offense, not
Speaker 1: so good on defense. Should be an interesting matchup for Kansas,
Speaker 1: who's very good on defense and has shut down some
Speaker 1: great offenses, but has struggled to get going on the
Speaker 1: offensive end even against more middle of the pack caliber
Speaker 1: defensive units.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kansas has lost four straight games at Waco,
Speaker 2: with their last win coming right before COVID shut the
Speaker 2: world down and the season down to February of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Behind Marcus Garrett and Udoka Azimpoopi's lob fast all time,
Speaker 2: Kansas is eleven and six in Waco. They won twenty
Speaker 2: nine of the first thirty three games against the Bears,
Speaker 2: but they are currently just eight and six against him
Speaker 2: in the last seven years. And also, Ryan wrote a
Speaker 2: quote that I cannot read.
Speaker 1: I didn't write that quote. Jesus said that Jesus didn't
Speaker 1: like Baylor. Okay, you guys didn't know that. And Jesus
Speaker 1: in the year three actually said some really explicit things
Speaker 1: about Baylor. He came right out of the womb. He said,
Speaker 1: he definitely allegedly he said, if the censor works here,
Speaker 1: Baylor there, that's what he said. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: I did my homework on this. It says it in
Speaker 1: the I don't know what version of the Bible you
Speaker 1: were reading ten minutes ago, camb but my version it
Speaker 1: says that clear as day in the red letter. That's
Speaker 1: a what a version?
Speaker 2: That is?
Speaker 1: Great's that about Kansas just being eight and six against
Speaker 1: Baylor the last seven years, We're going on almost a
Speaker 1: decade of these teams essentially playing even they both wanted
Speaker 1: each other's buildings, they both primarily defended home court, and
Speaker 1: they've rarely played neutral site matchups. When they do, those
Speaker 1: are always a split, good rivalry. What happens in this game.
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna take Kansas to win. I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: Kansas wins a gross game, seventy two to sixty eight,
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, a good road win.
Speaker 1: I think the key in this game for Kansas is
Speaker 1: making threes. Baylor's offense is really good, but I have
Speaker 1: enough confidence in Kansas's defense to not allow them to
Speaker 1: go ballistic. I think if Kansas's offense plays their game
Speaker 1: against the Baylor defen that's been unimpressive this year, the
Speaker 1: Jayhawks should have every opportunity they need to win. But
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this from Baylor's perspective. The Bears are
Speaker 1: not usually a team we see desperately needing NCAA caliber
Speaker 1: wins this late in the season, but here they are.
Speaker 1: Baylor has struggled in Big Twelve play compared to their
Speaker 1: expectations before the year and what they typically do. I
Speaker 1: might be wrong on this, and this team just might
Speaker 1: not be very good, but I have to think that
Speaker 1: a coach as good as Scott Drew with a player
Speaker 1: as good as Edgecomb is gonna look at this matchup
Speaker 1: and think this is our chance to take down a
Speaker 1: headliner program and lock our NCAA ticket. They're a ten
Speaker 1: seed and Joe Lonardi's projections right now, they need quality wins. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: I think they get it. I think this game is close.
Speaker 1: I think Baylor makes enough plays down the stretch to
Speaker 1: hold on seventy four to seventy one in a game
Speaker 1: that leads us all feeling like we still haven't seen
Speaker 1: Kansas win the big game. The big matchup, but it
Speaker 1: also doesn't leave us feeling totally discouraged either. I do
Speaker 1: think Kansas will win their next two games after this,
Speaker 1: but this one they haven't always played down there. This
Speaker 1: is a place where they always lose. And while it's
Speaker 1: not a bad matchup, I just think Baylor is well
Speaker 1: coached and enough talent on that roster where they're ultimately
Speaker 1: gonna get one of these quality teams. I think it
Speaker 1: happens here, and I hope I'm wrong. Other games in
Speaker 1: the Big twelve Sun Devil State showdown Arizona at Arizona State.
Speaker 1: Give me the Sun Devils rivalry team against a squad
Speaker 1: coming off a stunning win. I think forks up.
Speaker 2: Give me Arizona.
Speaker 1: Kansas State at number three, Iowa State. I don't think
Speaker 1: we're really struggling to pick this one.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 1: Iowa State clones by seriously like thirty. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: really really it's gonna be really gross. Utah at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1: That's also gonna be gross, but in a different way.
Speaker 1: I guess we want the Pokes at home, or do.
Speaker 2: We man, I don't know, I don't know. I sure
Speaker 2: give me the.
Speaker 1: Pokes BYU at Central Florida. I will go with UCF
Speaker 1: at home. I think they're a little better than people think.
Speaker 2: I will also take the Knights.
Speaker 1: Number twenty two, Texas Tech at number six Houston. Big
Speaker 1: opportunity for the Red Raiders to prove themselves as legit,
Speaker 1: but I don't think they take down the Koops. Same
Speaker 1: West Virginia at Cincinnati. Give me I lose so much
Speaker 1: pick them. I'm ground with freaking Cincinnati, but I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it again.
Speaker 2: I kind of think they finally win one here. They
Speaker 2: have to right.
Speaker 1: Colorado at TCU, not picking them TCU.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at TCU and then other games.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of good games this week, a
Speaker 1: lot of rivalries around the sport. Number five Florida at
Speaker 1: number eight Tennessee. Do the balls bounce back? I say yes,
Speaker 1: but it's gross.
Speaker 2: I think it's Yeah. I think they do win. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be like fifty eight to fifty four.
Speaker 1: Yep, that sounds exactly right. Number twenty Mazoo at number
Speaker 1: fourteen mississip State. How legit of the Tigers?
Speaker 2: Not give me Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: I agree, I think the Tigers are pretty good, but
Speaker 1: I'm with you, going with going Mississippi State in this game.
Speaker 1: Number one Auburn at number twenty three, Old miss You
Speaker 1: know what, here's the spot. Give me Chris Beard at home,
Speaker 1: big game, big opportunity.
Speaker 2: I hate copying, but I'm gonna do it. I think Ole.
Speaker 1: Missticks it interesting. Yeah, Auburn is like nineteen and one. Man,
Speaker 1: they gotta lose eventually, all right, you can pick first
Speaker 1: in the you can pick first and the rest of
Speaker 1: these games. Then number twenty four Vanderbilt at Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: Can't believe I'm saying this, but give me Porter Moser.
Speaker 1: Nope, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, nope. I
Speaker 1: will take Vanderbilt. You could put the fighting fark tured
Speaker 1: toilet bowl cleaners at Porter Moser and I would pick
Speaker 1: the former. Not doing that with Porter North Carolina at
Speaker 1: number two, Duke, I'm tempted to pull the trigger on
Speaker 1: you and see it seems like they always play pack
Speaker 1: well in this building. They they always play pretty well
Speaker 1: when they're when they're not really expected to do much.
Speaker 2: They're just so bad. It's Duke.
Speaker 1: Duke's gotta lose one eventually. But yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: That's yeah. Maybe if this game was in Chapel Hell,
Speaker 1: you'd think otherwise. I agree number twenty five Yukon at
Speaker 1: number nine Marquette probably a game that could buy and
Speaker 1: large get Marquette to the cusp of winning that league.
Speaker 1: I think they get it, but I don't really like
Speaker 1: the coaching matchup here.
Speaker 2: I don't like it at all either, but I do
Speaker 2: think they're better than you can.
Speaker 1: And then Arkansas at number twelve Kentucky. Are you giving
Speaker 1: John Caliperi any chance to go into this team arena? No, no,
Speaker 1: and steal the show. I'll tell you what I think
Speaker 1: this is. I think this game is going to be
Speaker 1: really close. I agree Kentucky wins, but I would pick
Speaker 1: Arkansas to cover. I think that the Razorbacks are going
Speaker 1: to look at this game and say, this is our
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Let's win this one for our coach. I'll
Speaker 1: win it for the Gipper.
Speaker 2: It's going to be like an eight point spread.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would take Arkansas to cover.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, maybe I'll probably talk myself into it.
Speaker 1: I'm whatever, Cambats, you can take that one to the bank.
Speaker 1: I mean the bank, no doubt.
Speaker 2: That's definitely never been before.
Speaker 1: Hey, so we'll be back on Sunday night, which will
Speaker 1: drop Monday. We have a short turnaround here for the
Speaker 1: next episode because Iowa State comes to town on a Monday,
Speaker 1: Big Monday. Bill self has never lost a Big Monday
Speaker 1: home game. Hold on your hold on to all of
Speaker 1: your bill. This is it TP on Rocktop Flog Cam.
Speaker 1: You gotta go to bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm about to go to bed. I'm Cam and
Speaker 2: I'm taking sleeping aids.
Speaker 1: You do that for Land and Fields. Yeah, Cam needs
Speaker 1: to start taking Melatona during the ASCARCV segment.
Speaker 2: I can't take Melotone. I trip balls on it.
Speaker 1: Dude, Well seriously, I can't. I can't follow that up,
Speaker 1: so I'll just say see you next time.