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Speaker 1: Doug Wilson, this guy who I didn't even really know

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about until recently, but apparently he is.

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Speaker 2: Pete.

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Speaker 1: Why, Pete, what's up?

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Speaker 2: You know why? Because you're not a woman.

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Speaker 1: Well, Pete haig Seth, who is, of course our secretary

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of Defense, is a member of Doug Wilson's church. And

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I guess recently uh shared out I should Uh, I

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should grab the Yeah, grab grab the video here of

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the we could play the ap story.

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Speaker 3: Defense Secretary Pete haig Seth recently made headlines when he

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shared a C and N video on social media about

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the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches, an arch conservative network

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of Christian congregations where he's a member. The video included

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its pastors arguing women should not have the right to vote.

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Speaker 4: I was very grateful to him for doing that. He

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didn't just repost it like, oh, here's an interesting thing

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that these weird people are doing. Uh. He reposted it

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and he himself said all of Christ for all of life,

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which is the tagline that we use.

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Speaker 1: So now, by the way, if Pete hag Seth had

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said this is an interesting thing that these weird people

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are doing, that would have been appropriate. But he did

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not say that. He seems to be expressing support for

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Pastor Wilson, And again, what's that.

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Speaker 2: It's more than that.

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Speaker 1: More than that, Yeah, more than that because.

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Speaker 5: That statement that he made, Yeah, that that statement is

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is not just like something he's pulling out of thin air.

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That statement refers to the belief that first we get

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the Christian nation, then we get the Christian constant, then

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we go for the world.

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Speaker 2: They want a Christian world.

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Speaker 5: The ultimate endgame is to convert everybody right a little.

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Speaker 4: More reposting it and saying amen at some level.

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Speaker 3: Pastor Doug Wilson, the network's co founder, is no stranger

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to controversy with his church's embrace of patriarchy and Christian nationalism.

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They are a network of all one hundred and thirty

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churches and have recently opened a new church in Washington,

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d C. With heg Seth attending its first Sunday service.

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Speaker 4: This is the first time we've had connections with as

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many people in national government as we do now. But

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this is not this is not an ecclesiastical lobbying effort

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where we're trying to meet important people. We're trying to

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give some of these people an opportunity to meet with God.

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Speaker 3: Wilson's church in the wider network believe in practice.

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Speaker 1: The idea I would like a chance to meet with God.

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I mean I have questions, you know, like I've always

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wondered what does he look like? And does he have

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a long white beer?

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Speaker 3: Men and women have different roles, and women should not

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hold church leadership positions.

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Speaker 4: My wife votes, my daughters vote. If people rush to

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conclusions from what they heard on the CNN piece, that's

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a sad thing. At the same time, I think that

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the Nineteenth Amendment was a bad idea, and I had

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no problem with how Pastor Jared answered the question. I

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would support that. Our issue is not is not a

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problem with the enfranchisement of women. Our problem is with

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the disenfranchisement of the household.

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Speaker 1: Now, just to clarify what he means, his position and

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the position of the church is that there should be

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one vote per household, and of course the person casting

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the vote would be the head of the household. And

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I think we all know when we refer to the

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head of the household, we know who Pastor Wilson has

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in mind. Right, men, that's right, that's not too clear.

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Speaker 3: Follow his Church's example.

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Speaker 4: So in our church elections, households vote, and that includes

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some women as heads of households. But ordinarily, when you

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have a conservative Christian family, the head of the household

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is the is the husband and father, and he's the

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one who casts the vote. But he's voting on behalf

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of the whole household. The issue is not keeping females

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from voting. The issue for us is we want households

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to have a say.

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Speaker 1: There is a little bit of a loophole in there

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for him because you know, he because I think in

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a separate piece and a longer video, or it might

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even even been because we did watch the piece on CNN,

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which by the way, Doug Wilson did acknowledge that he

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thought it was fair. He definitely a lot of them

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that it was fair. Yeah, it was fair and balanced

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because they did present all sides. But but the loophole

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being see, he can say, he can say, we're not

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saying we oppose women voting, because uh, he sort of

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acknowledges that not every household, you know, so for example,

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if you have a household where there's a mom, but

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but the father has passed away, for that's.

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Speaker 2: What he said Yeah, it's a widow. You get to vote.

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Speaker 1: So that's why he gets to say that. That's why

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he can say.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're not opposed to women. VI. What's that there's

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no divorce in that kind of Christianity.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's true. But but if somebody die, like if.

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Speaker 5: You watch the full CNN and they also have an

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extended version if you go on YouTube, Yeah, is the

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full thirty minute version that has all. But they interview

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a couple of the heads of his church and they

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reiterate the belief that men are in charge, women are

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subservient and if that's not enough for you to believe it,

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they then go to a couple and the woman openly says,

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I am subservient to him, that she's submissive. She used

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the word submissive, that she's submissive to him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is.

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Speaker 5: Part of the control and this crazy Christianity. Right, where

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as a woman, you are less than the man. You're

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not as smart as the man. God didn't build you

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to carry this load, this weight. Don't let your husband

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handle those the household difficulty things. You know, you you

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keep the house, you raise the kid, but you don't

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make decisions. You know, you can have an opinion, but

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the ultimate decision is made by.

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Speaker 2: The man right, and it is.

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Speaker 5: And as a woman, I was once married for a

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very long time in and there was a time in

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my life when I had converted to Christianity and believed

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in a very strict Christianity.

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Speaker 1: And a strict version of it. We should just be clear,

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just to be fair. I don't think a majority of

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Christians actually would follow Doug Wilson, but Pete second. But

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a member, a high ranking member of our government does.

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Speaker 5: Me exactly, Yeah, because I want people to like, this

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is a it's it's it's a it's like getting infected

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with something right. And you, as a woman, you firmly

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believe that you're doing what God is telling you to do,

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and you want to go to heaven.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: So I believed that if I wasn't a godly woman,

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I wouldn't get to see the people that I loved Again.

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I was very attached to that idea of being able

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to see the people that I loved who died, and

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the idea of that not being real was so devastating

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to me that the first time somebody really challenged me

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on it. I collapsed and just bawled my eyes out,

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and it was like, but if you're right, there's nothing.

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Speaker 2: If I'm right, I get to be with the people

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So any suffer that I am enduring in this

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world is required of me to get the.

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Speaker 2: Reward of going to heaven.

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Speaker 5: So whenever my husband had done or said or made

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certain rules or whatever that I followed, that's where it.

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Speaker 2: Was coming from. And it was a very very strong.

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Speaker 5: I was a Sunday school teacher. We went to church

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every Sunday. I read the Bible.

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Speaker 2: I had a woman's study guides.

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Speaker 5: I can remember going to I would volunteer for at

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the Christian camps as because I was an EMT, I

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would volunteer to be part of their medical staff. And

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I would bawl my eyes out over tearing over these books.

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Speaker 2: Why don't I get it like every Why can't I

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feel it? Like everybody else?

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Speaker 1: Says? Why is this?

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Speaker 2: Why can't I feel what everybody else does? Why? And

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I you know, it's because there's something wrong with me? Right,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the most powerful thing in the world when

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you think about it, Like, if you upset this God,

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then you're gonna burn and everlasting.

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Speaker 2: Hell, you'll never see the people you love again.

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Speaker 5: And I couldn't live with that at the time, right,

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And I firmly believed that I may not. No one

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understand why these things are written, but God has a reason, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well they have you know, the Lord works in

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the serious ways, which is kind of a catch all

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explanation for everything.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: So this, this belief system exists in different ways, but

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now this situation has catapulted it. This It came out

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of a belief in like Calvinism, and they've and remember

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now Doug created this shit. He's the founder of this.

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This is his own faith that he created within this church.

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And now he's got other locations and they just opened

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one in DC, Yeah, to have one near the capitol.

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Speaker 2: And heg Seth has already gone there.

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Speaker 1: To go to church.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And he's very and Doug is very clear that

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the Nineteenth Amendment, which is the woman's right.

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Speaker 2: To vote, should be repealed. Yeah, women should not have

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Speaker 5: He says that it was the stake to have ever

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given the woman the right to vote. So put the religion,

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those beliefs, and now put this stuff stacking up right,

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to rule the world only men in leadership. That's a

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big eie Tooh, and heg Seth is very big on that.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't. You know you look, they don't.

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Speaker 5: None of them have women in leadership because women are

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too weak, too stupid fill in the blank, you're not

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Speaker 2: You can't do it. That's their opinion.

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Speaker 1: We should for anyone who if you're not familiar with

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this guy, like I said, I was not familiar with

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Speaker 4: So let us talk about women voting. Shall we? Back

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in the battle days before the nineteenth Amendment, the men

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were considered to be the heads of their households and

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represented their families at the ballot box. So what happened

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when their wives were granted suffrage. Let us take a

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typical presidential election to illustrate it, using the first one

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in nineteen twenty, after women's suffrage was accomplished, the election

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between Warren Harding and James Cox. If both the husband

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and wife vote for Harding, say, then what you've done

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him by two. And if the husband votes for Harding, say,

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and the wife votes for Cox, then what you've done

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is cancel out the voice of that particular household. Upon

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discovering how they were each going to vote. What would

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be the harm if the two of them just stay

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at home for a quiet dinner together in order to

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cancel out one another's vote? That way, where was the

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great progress supposed to be local?

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Speaker 1: He's really reaching to make this argument.

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Speaker 2: He interchanges the world household for man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, remember that, Remember that every time he uses the

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Speaker 1: There's also but there's also a flaw in his logic.

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Well here, let me play a little bit more of this,

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Speaker 5: Have families can't vote?

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Speaker 2: How old is bullshit?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good point, But there's another flaw here. But let

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me let me just play a little bit more of this.

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Speaker 4: To be located. The net effect of women's suffrage was

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not an advance in women's rights, but rather part of

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a push to replace covenanted entities like families with raw individualism.

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An overweening state greatly prefers governing an aptimistic populace, where

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each individual is like a bebe thrown into an electoral sack.

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There's no structural or rigidity to it. Especially after laxity

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in the law concerning porn, pot and poker has now

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greased all the bebes. Nothing coheres anymore. In the older system,

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the people were grouped in molecules Birch's little platoons, some

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of them quite complex, and molecular societies are much more

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capable of resisting the demands of statism. So the suffrage

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movement was actually not taking up the cause of women,

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but rather was part of a long sustained war on

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the family. The nature of this kind of thinking says

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that a decision to aboard a child is a decision

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between a woman and her doctor. The father of the

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child is stripped of any legal ability to protect the

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life of his own legitimate child. We need to retrace

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all of our steps in order to discover how travesty

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like that could ever happen, And when we do, we

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discover that a lot of it started at Seneca fault.

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Speaker 1: Now, the thing that I don't understand is so about

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his logic. I mean, aside from obviously I disagree with

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his position, but I also there's something about how he

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gets there that I don't quite understand. So if you've

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got because he uses this an example, So if you've

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got two if you've got two people in a household,

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if you've got a man and a woman who both

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vote the same way, you've effectively doubled the voting power

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of that household. Whereas if they vote, uh, if they

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if the two households vote differently, then they've effectively canceled

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out each other's vote. Like, look, I'm not good at math,

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But why why does that even? Why does any of

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that even matter? Because what if you have so.

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Speaker 2: What if you collection of votes that counts? But what

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if you have two people vote?

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Speaker 1: If you have two people in a household, though, So,

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if you have two people in a household and they

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both vote the same way, and they both vote the

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way you want them to do, right if if if

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you're a conservative and you've got a conservative couple and

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they both vote the same way, you've Yeah, maybe you've

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doubled the voting power of that household. But in that case,

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that's a good thing, right for you? If they voted

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the way you want them to vote. So it's kind

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of like so, for lack of a better way of

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putting it, I guess what I'm saying is in response

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to his his argument about doubling the voting power of

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a household and whatnot. Who fucking cares? In the end,

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what does it matter?

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Speaker 2: Your matters that when are having a power over a man.

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Speaker 1: Presenting that that woman's vote.

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Speaker 5: Might cause the candidate that she likes to win, and

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she's not going to.

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Speaker 2: Obey her husband.

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Speaker 5: Is important, But that's not going to obey husband. Then

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she's counting. She's killing his vote because she's not obeying him.

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But when she is obeying him, she's giving him an abundance.

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But we don't want to allow either one of those.

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Speaker 2: Only want the men to vote.

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Speaker 5: Remember he doesn't say that a man who doesn't have

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a wife and kids can't vote.

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Speaker 2: He says household vote. A man is a household. A

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woman is not.

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Speaker 5: Anything right unless she's under some man's roof, then she's part.

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Speaker 2: Of his household.

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Speaker 5: The only exception to the rule is when a woman

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is allowed to be in her own had a household

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because our husband died, but you never divorced. Divorce is

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an absolute sin. And now broad in this So this

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is where we are right and now we.

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Speaker 2: Have a Faith Office in the White House Christianity only.

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We have a task.

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Speaker 5: Force that is supposed to weed out any anti Christian bias,

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and we have a Religious Liberty Commission. These things didn't

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exist before Trump because we recognized that in this country

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well anti Christian initiative, and we didn't have a breaking

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we didn't have a woman in the White House under

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this Faith office, who, by the way, thinks she can

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move a hurricane with a stick.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Paula White, Yeah, she's a lunatic.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: But but I'm saying, though, like this isn't this isn't

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all new, because we we did see some of this

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to a to a small extent during the George W.

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Bush administration. And that's part not like this, No, but

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that's part of the reason why because if you remember conservative.

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Speaker 5: Offensive that you were, Because I feel like Bush is

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an entirely different Republican than Trump.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, in a lot.

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Speaker 5: Don't think there's I don't think that the aspects of

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that are are similar in any way.

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Speaker 1: No, but I'm just saying, though the roots of this

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did pre exist Trump Trump because not actually.

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Speaker 5: Well yeah, it did you got it worse than that.

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You got to go back to Nixon and Reagan because

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that's when we had prayer in schools.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no Reagan. Yeah, well we never had a

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prayer in public school.

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Speaker 2: Yes we did.

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Speaker 1: There was a push for it. There's always had it. Okay.

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Speaker 5: I went to elementary school. In the beginning of the day,

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we all did the present allegiance and then there was

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a in Massachusetts. Yeah, then there was a prior time

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and the Jewish kids and the Jehovah's witness kids were

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were in the hallway.

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Speaker 2: That surprises in the classroom. It didn't last long.

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Speaker 1: That surprises me, but that happened. Okay, No, but my point,

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my point was. My point was though that there were

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like we saw a lot of this. The reason Christian Conservatives,

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for example, they embraced W but they didn't they never

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trusted his father. And the reason they never trusted his

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father is because Bush Senior was resistant to the Christian right.

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Uh he he he. He kept them in arm's length,

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whereas w embraced them, and he did have I don't

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remember specifically, but he did have some faith based initiative

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stuff going on during his administration.

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Speaker 2: Little things.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't anything that was going to amount to something

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somebody getting.

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Speaker 2: In trouble or anything.

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Speaker 5: These guys are actually literally out to get people because

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they have the power. Now, Oh you're anti Christian, I'm

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gonna sue you, like this is where.

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Speaker 2: We're at right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, and and.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm just I'm just saying no because.

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Speaker 2: Government period agree.

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Speaker 5: And when you ask people like you know, I mean,

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this is the pastor that we're talking about. Is the

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kind of person who's leading these people that are doing

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these things?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right? Who they want this country to have?

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Speaker 5: What did he say? He wanted Jesus to be the

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head of the country basically was his thing. And he

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said that Muslim, what do you say about Islamic faith?

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Was I don't know what he's everybody else's faith is heresy,

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but their version of Christianity. Right, that's literally outside the

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Oval office now, and that concerns me. And when you

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say you're going to go target people that you consider

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anti Christian, what does that really look like?

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Speaker 2: How is that going?

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Speaker 5: And is there anything going on that we don't even

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know yet? Like because this exists, we know it exists.

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Speaker 2: What are they doing?

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Speaker 1: Miriam Banish says in Texas they had a moment of

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silence when she was there two thousand and three to

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two thousand and seven. Yeah, I didn't know that was

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actively happening anywhere. I always here Christian conservatives talk about

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that like it's like a compromise. It's like, well, if

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you're not gonna have prayer in school.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember that. You didn't have the moment silent

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thing either. We had that afterwards. I mean we had

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a long time. We had pledge of allegiance, moment of

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silence announcements.

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Speaker 1: Just to clarify though, So I went to a Catholic school,

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Saint John's, and conquered from grade two to grade eight. Now,

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starting in ninth grade, I went to public school. It's

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possible there was something. I doubt it though, But if.

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Speaker 5: You missed it, it's possible it's happening.

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Speaker 2: Then you're only a year younger than me.

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Speaker 1: I doubt it was happening.

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Speaker 2: This was happening.

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Speaker 1: I doubt it was happening, even in public school in

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New Hampshire. But but it could have been. It could

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have been, and I just missed it. It certainly wasn't

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happening because in ninth grade. In ninth grade, I started

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going to public school. And there was nothing even approaching

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anything like that in public school and conquered when I

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was in when I was in public school. But there

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could have been something that I just was never exposed to.

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That's certainly possible when I was.

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Speaker 2: And when we moved. When I'm one of.

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Speaker 5: The moves I had, I am was it eighth grade

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or seventh grade?

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Speaker 2: You see this seventh It was the eighth grade.

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Speaker 5: I ended up in a school where I was one

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of only two Jewish kids in the school.

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Speaker 2: It was an overcrowded school back then.

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Speaker 5: The schools were packed and we weren't on half day

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sessions where they used to do this thing when they.

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Speaker 2: All to night to the days.

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Speaker 5: But you could only walk around the school in one

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direction because it was that fall. Was that ba and

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at Christmas time, I guess they had always traditionally just

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had like Christmas stuff up, but now that they had

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two Jewish kids.

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Speaker 2: And I made an offhanded remock once.

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Speaker 5: About see, you know, I see all the Christmas stuff,

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how come there's nothing bahanika?

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Speaker 2: And all of a sudden there was, and I was

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like the pariah. Yeah yeah, And then we did.

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Speaker 5: Hanka got added to the Christmas program, and they stopped

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calling it the Christmas thing not long after that and

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started calling it the Fall Concert or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But it was called the Christmas like it. You know.

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Speaker 5: I think about that stuff and how uncomfortable it was,

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and then we moved so far past that people expressing

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themselves and having their own face, and now here we

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are and all of that progress is being completely stripped away,

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piece by piece, and I worry that this Christian nationalist,

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uber uber right wing is going to do irreparable harm

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that we can't undo.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's already so much going on.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's these belief systems that endorse the belief

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that we should pull people out of their car because

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they look Mexican and find out if they're really if

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they here legally or not, and that we as a

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society had a long time ago said nobody in law

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enforcement should be able to what was the word I'm

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word searching here, what was the word for it? When

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you when you highlight somebody you're looking for a particular

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rate profiling, profiling?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Yeah, Remember that was a big deal.

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Speaker 5: It was in the news, and they did away with

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racial profiling. We weren't going to allow that in law enforcement.

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Now now we're encouraging it. You know, now we're encouraging it.

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And that certainly isn't going to affect the uh, you know,

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the white africata, but it's sures heck is going to

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affect anybody whose skin.

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Speaker 2: Is slightly brown. Miriam looks slightly Asian.

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Speaker 1: Miriam says. In the chat room, my artistic kid had

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his hands held down on the table because he was

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fidgeting during a moment of silence. So I assume this

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was back in Texas. He wasn't making noise or hurting

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anyone or damaging property, and they basically used a form

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of restraint.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. And we're and

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now that's being brought back up. I mean, you go

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further with hegsas belief system. They believe that the.

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Speaker 2: Not just they want the Constitution.

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Speaker 5: Is one thing, but they want the Ten Commandments in

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every classroom, and they want prior in every classroom. And

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you know, the every day should start with that, every

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day should start with praising an idol and you know,

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professing Christian belief, his.

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Speaker 2: Version of I want to clarify that.

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Speaker 5: His their version of Christianity, because there are a lot

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of good Christians out.

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Speaker 2: There that don't have these belief systems.

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Speaker 5: Right, you know, don't believe that a woman should be

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stripped of her individuality and be melded under the man

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in her household, be it her father, her brother, her husband.

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And these these people are in decision making positions now

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that are setting laws that are literally putting people in

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jail right in concentration styled camps.

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Speaker 1: Miriam said in the chat, if someone isn't raised with religion,

477
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how would they choose the religion, the right religion. Well,

478
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that's the fallacy, and that's the basic that's the giant,

479
00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:21,880
gaping logic hole in religion begin with.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me dive into that little hole.

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Speaker 5: And add to that, As somebody who wasn't raised in religion,

482
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I knew of things from different sides. It was very

483
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easy to fall prey to somebody who said this is

484
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the right, this is the way, The truth is the light. Yeah,

485
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you know, nobody get it. You know, nobody gets to

486
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the father up by me. You know, when somebody you

487
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know is dearly beloved, He would say to us, pastor drole,

488
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dearly beloved. You know, I was seventeen when I started

489
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going to that church, and this man convinced.

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Speaker 2: Me that this is the way to go.

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Speaker 5: All the women wore dresses, never pants. In fact, I

492
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got seen in a pair of jeens, and I felt shame.

493
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Speaker 2: For being seed in jeans.

494
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Speaker 5: Out in public, right because they made me feel that way,

495
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and the way the men carried themselves and the way

496
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the women carried themselves, especially as as somebody who grew

497
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up with some serious issues, really crazy ass bad childhood,

498
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and somebody who wasn't secure in her own femininity to

499
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be around these women who are the ultimate feminine in

500
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skirts and phillies and only their wedding bands, and maybe

501
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I don't think they were any jewelry except the wedding band.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's the woman I'm supposed to be, and

503
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I'm not. What's wrong with me? My whole life was

504
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,519
what's wrong with me? Why I like?

505
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Speaker 5: And that was such an easy prey for right, I

506
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was really easy prey, and I ended up carrying those

507
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:08,319
beliefs for most of my life, and my own thoughts

508
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would be pretty bad if I caught myself sinning. And

509
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now they're running the country, and they're changing our classrooms,

510
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and they want the Bible in the classroom, and they

511
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want the Ten Commandments on the wall, and they want

512
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Christianity to rule over everything, including our governments. And anybody

513
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who's Hindu or a Muslim, or a Jewish or atheist

514
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or anything other than his brand is demon possessed.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said. Demon that's that, pastor.

516
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Speaker 5: And you've got I think we saw the video and

517
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you guys, yeah, that might be the one.

518
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Speaker 2: I don't or it might have been.

519
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:55,279
Speaker 5: No, it might not be, because it was one I

520
00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:58,440
was watching without you where he literally said, what's wrong

521
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,960
with the world is that is a is this demon possession?

522
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So base and that's part of what's right. So democrats

523
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:13,000
are demons? Oh yeah, ideology is Satan stew right, that's

524
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what there's There's no.

525
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Speaker 2: More you know, people people talking to each other.

526
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Speaker 1: I have a I have a family member who sends

527
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me text messages that say things like that, and in

528
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,799
the same text message, he'll criticize me for my ad

529
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,759
hominem attacks on the right while he's calling me a

530
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demon rat and saying I believe.

531
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Speaker 2: In calling you all.

532
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Speaker 1: This other stuff. Yeah, it's kind of.

533
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Speaker 5: It's kind of funny how once you talk to somebody

534
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you love is.

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Speaker 1: I do have I do have one more video here

536
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of Pastor Wilson. I think we should grab this. Let's

537
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see which one didn't I blow this one.

538
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Speaker 4: I didn't play yet. Women are the kind of people

539
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that people come out of.

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Speaker 6: So you just think they're meant to have babies.

541
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Speaker 4: No, it's doesn't take any talent to simply reproduce biologically.

542
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The wife and mother who is the chief executive of

543
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the home is entrusted with three or four or five

544
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eternal souls.

545
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Speaker 6: I'm here as a.

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Speaker 1: Working By the way, notice he said three or four

547
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or five? Did you catch that?

548
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: Yes?

549
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Speaker 1: I did, because because a big deal is a big

550
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part of their deal is have as many children as possible. Yes,

551
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have as many children as possible. That's a big that's

552
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a big part.

553
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Speaker 2: Of the correct children. Now, we got to give birth

554
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to the right, the right children.

555
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.

556
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Speaker 2: That's why you have to get anybody who's brown out

557
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of the country.

558
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Speaker 1: Right. That must be. That must be what it is. Yeah,

559
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:40,279
that's what I mean.

560
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Speaker 2: That's my theory.

561
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Speaker 5: Anyway, while we're rounding up human beings based on what

562
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they look like, right, a.

563
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Speaker 6: Mom of three?

564
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Speaker 4: Good for you?

565
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Speaker 6: Is that an issue?

566
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Speaker 4: No? No, it's not automatically an issue.

567
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,519
Speaker 7: Christ Church senior past is the leader of a Christianology

568
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movement that believes in a patriarchal society where men are

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dominant and women are expected to submit to their husbands.

570
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:04,400
Josh and Amy Prince a lot with their four kids,

571
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move from Washington State to Moscow, Idaho, where Wilson's movement

572
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is based.

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Speaker 2: Do you see Amy as your equal?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: And no, in the sense that we're both saved by grace,

576
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We're absolutely on equal footing, but we have very different

577
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purposes God given.

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Speaker 2: But do you see.

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Speaker 6: Yourself as the head of the household, as the man

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he is the head of our household? Yes, and I

581
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do submit to him, So like moving here, I was

582
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just your decision.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's a great it's a great example.

584
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Speaker 7: Wilson says, in his vision of a Christian society, women

585
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as individuals shouldn't be able to vote. His fellow pastors

586
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Jared Longshore and Toby Sumpter agree.

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Speaker 4: In my ideal society, we would vote as households, and

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I would ordinarily be the one that would cast the vote.

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But I would cast the vote having discussed it with

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my household.

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Speaker 1: Really, Oh yeah, I trust you, right, I.

592
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: Trust about it.

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00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:05,079
Speaker 1: We talked about it. Yeah, we discussed it.

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00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But if there's your wife doesn't want to vote for

596
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:10,400
the same person as you, right, well, then.

597
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,119
Speaker 4: That's a great opportunity for a good discussion.

598
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Speaker 2: There are some who have gone so he's still going

599
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to vote. His wife want the nineteenth and movement repealed.

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Speaker 4: I would support that, and I support it on the

601
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basis that the atomization that comes with our current system

602
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is not good for humans.

603
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Speaker 7: And Wilson, a veteran himself, is unapologetic about his view

604
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that women shouldn't be in certain leadership or combat roles.

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Speaker 6: Looking at the leadership page for christ Church, it's all men.

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Do you accept women and leadership roles in the church and.

607
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Speaker 4: Government in the church now? Because the Bible says it's

608
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not to.

609
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:47,359
Speaker 8: Well, that's not what happens in the Bible. Women do

610
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lead all the time.

611
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Speaker 7: Progressive Faith leader Reverend Jennifer Butler is concerned about Wilson's

612
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growing influence.

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Speaker 8: He is rapidly gaining in power. He has hundreds of

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churches established around the country. They actually literally want to

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00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:05,440
take over towns and cities, and they have access to

616
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this administration.

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Speaker 7: Wilson's highest level connection to the administration is Defence Secretary

618
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Pete Hegseth.

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Speaker 4: It's not organizationally tied to us, but it's the kind

620
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of thing we love to see.

621
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Speaker 7: For his part, hag Seth has publicly praised Wilson.

622
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Speaker 1: Now we're standing on the shoulders of a generation later,

623
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,319
the Doug Wilson's and the other. So there you go.

624
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:31,519
So yeah, he's so, this isn't something where you know,

625
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,559
we're just making assumptions or no, you know, we're.

626
00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:37,519
Speaker 5: Literally repeating what these people are saying, like they're not

627
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,920
hiding their crap anymore.

628
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: It's on.

629
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Speaker 1: He Seth is all in. Heg Seth is all in.

630
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 5: They used to say only behind closed doors are out

631
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,039
in the open now because they feel emboldened and they

632
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,440
have the power and they're getting away with it.

633
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:58,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you know. Miriam says, I was raised vaguely

634
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,680
Protestant and my dad was agnostic. My mom left when

635
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,720
uh oh, my mom felt we should be free to

636
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:07,000
choose what to believe. So I tried a few things

637
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,839
that was empowering, and what I found was that I

638
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:11,079
didn't need it to be a good person. I like

639
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,440
Unitarian Universalists because the idea is that the community is

640
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,960
there to help you discover that best path for you.

641
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,759
Speaker 5: Now there's a story out of this Doug Wilson church,

642
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:26,599
and you guys can look it up on your own.

643
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:30,519
Speaker 2: The story that I read, and that's I'm just repeating

644
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:31,079
what I read.

645
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 5: Is that he had a member in his church who

646
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:37,160
was a pedophile.

647
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 9: Oh, he had worked with this man who repented and

648
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:48,559
was forgiven, and then the church helped him.

649
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,799
Speaker 2: Find a wife, and then they.

650
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Speaker 5: Had a baby boy who he then assaulted the baby boy,

651
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and then he went to the church and confessed that

652
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,119
he assaulted that he.

653
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: A baby boy.

654
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Speaker 5: And because he confessed and repented, he was forgiven.

655
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Speaker 1: Oh good, So no need to get the law involved, ob.

656
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing to see here, move along with. Yeah, that's it.

657
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,559
That's all you gotta do.

658
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,559
Speaker 1: That's all you gotta do.

659
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you.

660
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,599
Speaker 5: Kill somebody, yo, God, Well we were all good, right

661
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:32,639
hey sorry?

662
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, So that's the bleef. That's the bleef. So

663
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,800
this man, right that, this is this is the caliber

664
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of human And if you and.

665
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,079
Speaker 5: The Handmaid's Tale, nothing in the Handmaid's Tale that I

666
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,679
wrote was not something that had happened or is happening

667
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,119
in this world. Every aspect of the society that she

668
00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:02,440
wrote about are things that actually happened, you know. And

669
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:06,800
in the Handmaid's Tail, men can do no wrong and

670
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,880
they still have their plocivities, their.

671
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Speaker 2: Kinks. Right.

672
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Speaker 5: There's a place in the book where it's called Jezebel's

673
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where the commanders the men go and sleep with whatever

674
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,679
woman is being kept there who is a sex slave,

675
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:29,559
and then they go home to their dutiful wives and

676
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:35,599
thump the Bible. You know, that is what I see here,

677
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:43,199
these these Bible thumping holier than now bastards who dehumanize

678
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:48,880
their women and their daughters. And anybody who doesn't believe

679
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,960
their way is a demon.

680
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:56,519
Speaker 2: You're either demon to possessed, he said, or I don't

681
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know if.

682
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,679
Speaker 5: It was ignorant or something, but he basically believes that

683
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,920
any but that doesn't believe the way he does is

684
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,039
because they're demon possessed, right, like for reals, Like they

685
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:08,159
really do think that.

686
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 2: So when they hurt somebody, they think they're hurting this demon.

687
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Speaker 1: M Yeah, it's a good work around. Yeah, yep, that's

688
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:21,360
not about the hue. It's a demon, right right.

689
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Speaker 2: Calls women hunts harlots.

690
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Speaker 5: Yeah, women are not supposed to be in charge because

691
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also they're devious.

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00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,679
Speaker 1: Remember the Apple, Yes, that's where it all started.

693
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Speaker 5: And have a pension for the evils.

694
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Speaker 1: That must be where the word evil comes from. Eve

695
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,440
never thought of that before.

696
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Speaker 2: Actually, I have to look that one up. I'm not sure.

697
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I never thought of that till now.

698
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Speaker 5: But when I mean, when you really get into those

699
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:08,280
beliefs system, it is very powerful and very dangerous, and

700
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,920
now it's being wielded against anybody who isn't one of them,

701
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,920
anybody who isn't going to toe the line of one

702
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,760
of them, Like if you're not the white heterosexual male

703
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,639
that they want you to be, if.

704
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Speaker 2: You're supporting them, they're going to have you to dinner.

705
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:26,639
Oh yeah.

706
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Speaker 5: Ask a few people who are from Cuba how they

707
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:32,639
feel about that. Who had dinners with the Republicans down there.

708
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Vote for us, We're going to give you back your nation,

709
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:42,000
and now you can see videos of them crying. Yes,

710
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,880
because they voted for Trump. They believed everything they said,

711
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,480
and now their loved ones are being deported.

712
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Speaker 1: Yep, I don't have any sympathy for them, just for

713
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:50,800
the record.

714
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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, this is how these people operate.

715
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,159
Speaker 5: Oh you're a black man, come on in, Come on, honey,

716
00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,840
just make sure you marry your own kind.

717
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: Because if you think that doesn't exist in this type

718
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,719
of church, you're wrong.

719
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,119
Speaker 1: Of course your is wrong.

720
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: It totally does. And anybody who's not them is not

721
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:11,960
equal to them.

722
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 5: Think of a caste system, because that's basically what we're

723
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,559
being set up into now.

724
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: The uber elites are running everything.

725
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,199
Speaker 5: They're getting the tax breaks, they get shit tons of

726
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,039
tax dollars.

727
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 2: I mean, hard.

728
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:31,119
Speaker 5: Working people, citizens and non citizens get money taken out

729
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:34,079
of their paychecks long before they ever see a dime.

730
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,559
Speaker 2: And that money is now going into the pockets of

731
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:38,840
the people that we're talking.

732
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:42,079
Speaker 5: About, and they're going into the CEOs of these companies

733
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,960
that make twenty million dollars a year annual salary, never

734
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,519
mind their perks and bonuses.

735
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: Who the fuck needs twenty million dollars a year to

736
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,159
live well.

737
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,559
Speaker 1: Not only that, but look at people like Doug Wilson.

738
00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:57,000
You know he lives very well. He's a very wealthy man.

739
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,960
A lot of these these religious leaders are very, very wealthy.

740
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:05,039
That's why I I you know, and again i'll i'll these.

741
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: Churches, somebody these churches a million dollars.

742
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: And you know, I get and again I get accused

743
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,599
by a family member of being anti Christian when I

744
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:16,320
say this stuff. But it's like, I'm actually not anti Christian.

745
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,960
I think I think Gandhi was right. You know when

746
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,800
Gandhi I can never get the exact quote right when

747
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,119
he said, it's it's it's not it's it's not your

748
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,679
christ I don't like. It's your Christians. I don't like

749
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,639
because they're so unlike your christ Or as a friend

750
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:30,880
of mine used to paraphrase, I have a friend who

751
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,440
passed away a few years ago, but he used to

752
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,280
say his version of that was Christianity is a great idea.

753
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,079
Somebody should actually try it, because you know, these people

754
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:44,840
so so blatantly, so flagrantly. I call it ironic Christianity,

755
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:47,480
you know, which is this this version of Christianity where

756
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:51,440
you you say you love Christ and he's your savior

757
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:55,559
while actively having as little to do as possible with

758
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:01,800
anything Christ actually said or taught and behaviors. Yeah, exactly exactly.

759
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,079
That's why you know, I'm pretty skeptical about all of it,

760
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,239
because I don't think any of these people actually it's far.

761
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,559
Speaker 5: Does Jesus say, for I was a stranger in your

762
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:13,199
land and you fed me.

763
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:14,559
Speaker 2: For I was a stranger.

764
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 5: There's a whole section of the Bible, and Jesus says,

765
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:20,119
you know, you fed me, you clothed me, you housed me,

766
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,519
you did right by me. And then he goes after

767
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:25,519
the people on the other side and he says, for

768
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:27,639
I was a stranger in your land, and you did

769
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:29,960
not feed me, and you did.

770
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,679
Speaker 2: Not clothe me.

771
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 5: Yes, and he casts them down because they're not the

772
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,559
real Christian. The real Christian is the one who brought

773
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:42,719
them in. The real Christian is the one that goes

774
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,920
over to the poor and feeds them and clothes them.

775
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: And here's the kicker for you.

776
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 5: Okay, the whole thing about government is not going to

777
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,400
doesn't want to do charity things. You know, we're not

778
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,880
gonna We shouldn't have food stamps. We should have churches

779
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,000
with food banks, that's the answer. We shouldn't have free

780
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,519
things because the churches will do it.

781
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: These are the churches, and they're not doing it.

782
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:11,519
Speaker 5: And then yeah, so the same people who are saying

783
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:13,159
the church is to be doing it. Are the same

784
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,159
people who are that the leaders in these churches who

785
00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:19,000
won't freaking do it right you want?

786
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I just wanted to say to be fair.

787
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,679
So when we talk about this, you know, we're talking

788
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:26,880
about the churches that are obviously all about the money,

789
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,599
or at least obviously those of us who are looking

790
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:31,360
at them with a critical eye. There are I just

791
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,400
want to acknowledge that it. You know, in communities all

792
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,639
across the country, there are also small churches that actually

793
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,039
do do things for the community like run soup kitchens

794
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:45,480
and various charities and food drives and clothing drives and everything.

795
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:47,880
So I want to acknowledge that too. I don't want

796
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:48,880
to paint everybody with that.

797
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:49,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

798
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are people who are actually, believe it or not,

799
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,800
trying to do Christ's work in communities all across the country,

800
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,239
and they they need to be uh acknowledged and praised

801
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,639
for that because they're actually they're actually doing something good.

802
00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:07,480
So we don't want to pay with a broadbrush. But

803
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,480
we're talking about the Charlatans who unfortunately are the ones

804
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,840
who get all the media coverage, who are who are

805
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,599
not doing Christ's work because my theory is they're they're atheists.

806
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,920
I always say this about televangelists. There's no way they

807
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,480
actually believe in God, because if they like people like.

808
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,639
Speaker 2: People away themselves that they do.

809
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think it's even that. I have a

810
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,320
different theory about that. I know everyone says that, but

811
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,559
I think they do. I think no. I think they're

812
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:33,079
full on atheists. I'll tell you why, because if there

813
00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:35,960
were any part of them that actually believed, wouldn't they

814
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,599
be afraid of going to hell for what they do?

815
00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:42,960
I think they will. I think they're aists because they are.

816
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: I think they believe in what they're saying. When I

817
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,960
lived in Kentucky, he is a guy. I lived in

818
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:55,079
Kentucky and I worked in a real sweatshop.

819
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 5: So in factory we made pajamas and I had a

820
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:02,480
like so sleeves onto these shirts, and you had to

821
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,599
look at your machine.

822
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: If you were caught looking at somebody else, you'd get.

823
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 5: Yelled at in front of everybody and threatened with getting fired.

824
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: No talking, nothing.

825
00:43:14,119 --> 00:43:17,639
Speaker 5: They There were multiple times that Friday would roll around

826
00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:20,360
and they'd tell us that the banks screwed something up,

827
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,000
and when our paychecks weren't there, or you'd go to

828
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:24,440
the bank to cash your paycheck and.

829
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,159
Speaker 2: It would bounce. There wouldn't bet any money left in

830
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:29,239
the account if you didn't get there fast enough to

831
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,000
hit your paycheck.

832
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,119
Speaker 5: But every Friday at three pm, we were to shut

833
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:38,800
our machines off and they would play original Sin doctrine

834
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:41,960
sermons over the speakers.

835
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: If you didn't want to listen to it, you.

836
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 5: Were supposed to go back to work. But if you

837
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:49,079
turned your machine on and went back to work, somebody

838
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:52,400
would yell at you that they couldn't hear the sermons. Right,

839
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,840
he's seen holier than and they believed, Oh did they?

840
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,039
Speaker 2: Lord?

841
00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 10: I understand that they the office and literally the one

842
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:04,039
that came out of the office and said to me,

843
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,000
the reason we weren't getting paid was because the fax

844
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:09,320
machine messed up the numbers when they sent it.

845
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I told him I knew how a fax

846
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,320
machine worked.

847
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 5: And I went home with my paycheck, and I was

848
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:16,239
told that I was to say nothing or I would

849
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,000
be fired, and so would my husband.

850
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,519
Speaker 2: But these are the same people here.

851
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:25,199
Speaker 5: These guys make so much money off of the faithful,

852
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,719
but they believe wholeheartedly that God wants them to do this.

853
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:33,159
Speaker 2: God wants them to have these things just to clarify

854
00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:36,280
them for the hard work that they're doing.

855
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: It's it's it's called it's called prosperity gospel. But what

856
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,039
I'm I'm just saying, I'm talking about the people at

857
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:45,719
the very top, the very top, like Kenneth Copeland, Paula White,

858
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:48,199
Joel Olstein. I just I.

859
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: Personally, she expused.

860
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,559
Speaker 1: No, no, No, that's what I'm saying. I believe I

861
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:56,280
believe that they don't believe at all. I'm saying this

862
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,280
is purely a business.

863
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: That's right by that. I'm surprise that you say that.

864
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: Did I say what that?

865
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,119
Speaker 2: You don't think they're real believers?

866
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:09,159
Speaker 1: You're you're surprised. No, I don't. I don't think. I

867
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:11,599
don't think that's what I'm Yeah, I don't think Paula

868
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:12,760
what they really.

869
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,639
Speaker 2: I do believe she does. I do think she's a

870
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:16,199
true believer.

871
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 5: I think she so believes that she's been chosen by

872
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,039
this power that if she gets us stinging in her foot,

873
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:25,519
it's God's telling her something.

874
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:28,119
Speaker 1: No, it's a business. It's a business to them. It's

875
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:29,280
a business to them.

876
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,519
Speaker 2: They I will agree to disagree with you.

877
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. I mean who knows. I don't know.

878
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,440
I don't know what what goes on in their brains

879
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,639
are in their hearts. But no, I don't my That's

880
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:41,320
always been my theory that that I'm talking about. I'm

881
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,440
talking about the really rich televangelists like Paula White, Joel Oldstein.

882
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,800
I don't. I don't think they don't believe that. I

883
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,440
don't think that they actually believe that there's a deity

884
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,800
who's going to judge them when they die. Because if

885
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,800
they actually believed that, wouldn't they be afraid to to

886
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,960
do what they do? And then?

887
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 2: Know?

888
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 5: You see, all right, let me let me say I

889
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,840
lived in Kentucky for three years, and you want to

890
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:11,159
talk about uber uber Christian, like these people are Christians

891
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:12,239
you've never met?

892
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:14,559
Speaker 1: No, but that's not who I'm talking about.

893
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: But that's what I know.

894
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,159
Speaker 5: I disagree with you there. These people are those people.

895
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,800
They are those believers that carry it like a badge

896
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,280
of courage, and they truly believe there's something magical inside them.

897
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: When that woman stands on your there, Ryan, and she

898
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,360
believes that God is going to.

899
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 5: Give her the strength to move a hurricane with a

900
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,920
stick while she's speaking in tongues.

901
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: Yes, oh, yes, she knows.

902
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:52,159
Speaker 2: Yet she knows. They believe that ship, lockstock and barrel.

903
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,880
They'll fight you over it. They'll kill you.

904
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 5: My action my father in law Breton to shoot me.

905
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: He was gonna like threaten to kill me.

906
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,079
Speaker 1: Sure what I'm talking about?

907
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: Me? Accuse me of doing witchcraft?

908
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: Letting hun No, I understand that. But I'm talking about the.

909
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,639
Speaker 2: People, these people. I've met, these people.

910
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,519
Speaker 5: I've met some of these people who have a ship

911
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:16,159
ton of money and they justify it.

912
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: I know, prosperity. I'm talking about the people at the

913
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:22,239
very top though they believe.

914
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, I think they believe it. I think they're

915
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,840
firm believers. I don't think you think Joel.

916
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,639
Speaker 1: You think Joel also actually believes as a God judge

917
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:31,239
when he dies.

918
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, but he doesn't believe God's going to judge

919
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,280
him poorly. They don't fear judgment. You got to understand something, too, honey.

920
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,280
A lot of these people believe that once in grace,

921
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,840
always engrace. Once you're saved, you're always saved, right.

922
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:50,639
Speaker 1: Which gives you all, which gives you a perpetual get

923
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:51,280
out of jail free.

924
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:54,119
Speaker 2: Ever you commit, always e grace.

925
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,199
Speaker 5: And if you don't believe one hundred percent and that

926
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,199
you believe that once you repent, you're As long as

927
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:03,079
you ask God for forgiveness, you go to heaven.

928
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:05,519
Speaker 2: So no matter what you do, even if you come

929
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:06,920
to believe.

930
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 5: That something you did was wrong, as long as you've

931
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,679
prayed on it and turned it over to God.

932
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 2: Left it on the altar.

933
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: Well, well, so do you believe that Trump actually believes

934
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,800
all of his own bullshit or is this a con see?

935
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,840
I apply the same sea. I look at Trumps the

936
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,159
same way I look at these televangelists, because I also

937
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,559
know that that Trump is a con man, and he's

938
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:31,599
just conned millions of people who are gullible enough to

939
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:33,360
believe he found.

940
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 5: He tapped in and realized how much power there Isn't that?

941
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:43,639
Because if they stand in front of you with the

942
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:49,320
Bible preaching gospel, and preaching gospel means you're saying anything godly.

943
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:50,559
Speaker 1: Yah.

944
00:48:50,639 --> 00:48:54,039
Speaker 2: So Trump's standing there with the Bible and saying something

945
00:48:54,119 --> 00:49:00,679
godly is God? This is God moving through him? Say

946
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:01,239
you believe it?

947
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 5: Looks that's why he can't do anything wrong, because God

948
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is directing it all right, and as a plan for it.

949
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Speaker 1: They believe he was chosen by God.

950
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Speaker 2: Only he knows.

951
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Speaker 5: What he You cannot understand the wonders of the Lord.

952
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You have to put your faith in trust in it.

953
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Speaker 1: And that's why.

954
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Speaker 2: Wanted to win. He wanted to win.

955
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Speaker 5: He also wanted to stay out of jail. And he

956
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saw that these people latched on.

957
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Speaker 2: And he realized that if he gave them the Christianity

958
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:29,480
they were looking.

959
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Speaker 5: For, they'd be in like crazy all over him. And

960
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that's exactly what's happened. All he does is give them

961
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what they want, and they're happy, and he keeps them

962
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:43,559
and he keeps their their support and their favoritism and

963
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:45,960
all of that. And that's all he kids about. I

964
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,159
don't think he knows shit about the freaking Bible. Anybody

965
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:53,239
who stands there and goes two Corinthians has never read

966
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,119
the fucking Bible, because you don't even know how it works.

967
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Speaker 2: Well.

968
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Speaker 1: My favorite, my favorite clip of all time was when

969
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down No, No, When who's at John Heilman and who

970
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,639
is the other guy? Rob halpern h This was back

971
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during the twenty sixteen campaign, when they asked him after

972
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,719
a debate was was he, you know, if he had

973
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,000
a specific passage in the Bible that He's like, oh no,

974
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I like all of it. And they asked him, well,

975
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are you of a more of an Old Testament guy

976
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or a New Testament guy? And he goes, well, you know,

977
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,920
I think I like them both equally.

978
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Speaker 5: It's like.

979
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Speaker 1: But but and yet these Christian conservatives they're so easily

980
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,639
conned by it.

981
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Speaker 5: And they also they shold them very much to New Testament.

982
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,840
Only Old Testament. It was done away with with, was

983
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,719
fulfilled by Jesus. So you follow the New Testament. The

984
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,559
Old Testament isn't needed anymore.

985
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,199
Speaker 1: Well, but the Old Testament is the world. But the

986
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Old well, but they go to the Old Testament.

987
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,079
Speaker 5: Of course, they validate shit, they'll validate stories or whatever

988
00:50:56,119 --> 00:50:58,880
you mean testament, But that's not how you live by.

989
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,119
You live by what's in the New Testament and what

990
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:02,920
Jesus said.

991
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Speaker 2: So we're not doing burnt offers.

992
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 5: No, they don't do that, schal We move to Sundays

993
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,119
instead of Saturdays.

994
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't give a about They don't give

995
00:51:11,519 --> 00:51:13,960
a shit about Jesus either, though, like that don't I mean,

996
00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:15,519
I mean, they love him and they accept him as

997
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:17,320
a savior, but they don't actually care about anything you

998
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:17,920
said or did.

999
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,079
Speaker 2: Oh, they do. They believe it.

1000
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,519
Speaker 5: I'm living a godly life by following Jesus's teachings.

1001
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Speaker 1: But they don't. Though they don't, they don't.

1002
00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:31,039
Speaker 2: Believe they are, they firmly believe they are. Well, I

1003
00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:33,320
think they I think they believe it.

1004
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,679
Speaker 1: I think they kind of treat Jesus like he's like

1005
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,280
the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving, Like, you know, we love him,

1006
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,679
he's part of the family. But if Jesus wants to

1007
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,199
just go to bed now and not say anything else

1008
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,400
crazy like you know, you should take care of poor

1009
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,159
people or not let children starve or something. We've had

1010
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,599
enough of that, Jesus. Why don't you just going on

1011
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:52,119
the bed.

1012
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,639
Speaker 2: Get those pots that are inconvenient.

1013
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, of course it's all inconvenient.

1014
00:51:57,199 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 5: They take and they twist, you know, take take any

1015
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,079
section of Scripture handed to ten Christians, and they're all

1016
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:04,960
gonna come up with it. Who can you know, they'll

1017
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,880
come up with ten different versions of what they think

1018
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:07,360
it says.

1019
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,519
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because it's based on whatever they want it

1020
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:11,719
to be exactly exactly.

1021
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: I'll justify my belief. I'll find a verse that justify

1022
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,519
this one fits me. And that's how it works. I

1023
00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:21,639
can justify anything I want to believe.

1024
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: Look at Doug believes that slavery was good for people.

1025
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,440
Doug Wilson is the one that said slavery was good

1026
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,039
for people.

1027
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,039
Speaker 1: That's a common narrative among his ilk.

1028
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1029
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they believe that shit and they justify it

1030
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:39,400
biblically because you're supposed to be good to your slaves.

1031
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,119
Speaker 2: It's in the Bible. They were good Christians, they were

1032
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:46,400
good to their slaves. See, yeah, that's real.

1033
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:49,639
Speaker 5: These people like I've been I'm telling you, these people

1034
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:53,840
will kill you for their belief. That's how strong the

1035
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,639
belief is. It is one hundred percent. And everything you

1036
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,159
do becomes.

1037
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,079
Speaker 2: For Ot, for God. It's that marching order, and you

1038
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,880
justify and they justify it.

1039
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,199
Speaker 5: They for I believe that the vast majority of the

1040
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:13,159
fuckers think they're doing the right thing under their faith.

1041
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:18,199
Speaker 2: But Trump is doing money.

1042
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,199
Speaker 5: He seth I think he might be fucked up and

1043
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,360
truly believe this ship because he's been a part of

1044
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,280
it long.

1045
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:27,559
Speaker 2: Before might orbit He has been a part of this

1046
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:28,800
a long time.

1047
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:33,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, he took the he took the portrait down of

1048
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:36,880
the first black woman to become an I think it

1049
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,159
was an admiral was there was a he took stuff

1050
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:43,079
down in the Pentagon that had to do with women.

1051
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,519
If it was a woman, somebody who was gay, or

1052
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:50,639
somebody was transgender, it got scrubbed because remember when he

1053
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:59,719
first started scrubbing ship, the dumbass scrubbed the Aola gay.

1054
00:53:58,719 --> 00:53:59,559
Speaker 2: They scrubbed.

1055
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, too woke, But see woke is now also making

1056
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,679
a building accessible for a disabled person to get.

1057
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, anything anything they don't even know what the

1058
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:11,440
word means, just anything they don't like is woke.

1059
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:14,159
Speaker 2: Woke, and all democrats are demons.

1060
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,559
Speaker 5: I miss it the days when people politically could disagree

1061
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,559
but debate one another work and you know, work for

1062
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:24,480
the greater good of our country because we want. I

1063
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:30,199
don't want Trump to fail. He fails, my country fails.

1064
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: Well, you want. I want my country to prosper.

1065
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,079
Speaker 1: You want your country to succeed.

1066
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:36,119
Speaker 2: Exactly.

1067
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,519
Speaker 5: But what we're we're we're undoing decades of good works,

1068
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,480
you know, pulling special kids out of school and reinstitutionalizing them.

1069
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,159
Why are we doing this? You don't want because they

1070
00:54:50,159 --> 00:54:54,679
don't want kids to know how to work with disabled people,

1071
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,519
or they just want to put it. I swear they

1072
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,760
want to take anybody who's disabled or special needs and

1073
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,199
just lock them away in a facility, because if you

1074
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,679
can't make the money and you can't serve them, you

1075
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,159
have no purpose on this earth for them. And these

1076
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,719
rich pricks live in a different world than us. You

1077
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,920
and I and probably ninety ers, probably all of our

1078
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,320
listeners don't live in the same world as these people.

1079
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,840
They don't shop in the grocery store like you do.

1080
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,920
They don't go to the same clothing stores that you do.

1081
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,800
They don't drive the way that they don't do anything

1082
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,639
the way you do. Things are laid out for them

1083
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,559
because they're that rich. They set it up ahead of time.

1084
00:55:33,519 --> 00:55:36,079
And we have a greed issue in this country.

1085
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:41,119
Speaker 2: That's what we have. When a healthcare CEO wakes twenty five.

1086
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 5: Million dollars in a year, or even a million dollars

1087
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,320
a year, but you're going to raise the premiums and

1088
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,280
you're taking away dental care from people on Medicare because

1089
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,679
they use too much of it the insurance they paid for,

1090
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,599
but because they use too much of it, because you

1091
00:55:55,639 --> 00:55:57,360
don't have the money for their care.

1092
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,039
Speaker 2: But you have money from.

1093
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:04,519
Speaker 5: A time million dollar salaries and payouts and two private jets.

1094
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: You won't fly with the peasants. These are the people

1095
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,119
running the country.

1096
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 5: On that part with you, I do agree, But I

1097
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,000
do think that Paula White is a real believer.

1098
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:19,039
Speaker 1: Trump no, oh no, Trump definitely not hexas.

1099
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: I think he's a believer. At paul A White, I

1100
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:22,719
think she's a believer.

1101
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: It's a business.

1102
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: I think it's I think she is no way