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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan capless and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Happy Monday, Colorado. It's Heidi Ganal filling in for

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Caplis. I'm really happy to be here. There has

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<v Speaker 2>been so much going on. I like to say every

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<v Speaker 2>day is like Christmas right now. Ryan, I mean, there

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<v Speaker 2>are so many things happening. It's making everybody's head spin,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the Democrats. I mean last night, Dan Bongino, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I think he became enemy number one and out

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<v Speaker 2>and displaced Cash Ptel.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 4>He's definitely making liberals headspin. He's been very combative in

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<v Speaker 4>his own podcast and radio show, and he has not

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<v Speaker 4>been shy about it whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just I go back to this quote from

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<v Speaker 3>John Fetterman.

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<v Speaker 4>He appeared with the Ladies on the View and he

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<v Speaker 4>gave some sage advice as.

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<v Speaker 3>He has wont to do, but they won't.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like we can't be like cats with the red

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<v Speaker 4>laser beam following around every little thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That Donald Trump does.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't pick their battles, their scattershot, they don't have

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<v Speaker 4>a targeted approach.

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<v Speaker 3>They just have these knee jerk.

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<v Speaker 4>Responses, threat to democracy, Nazi hitler, blah blah blah. And meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 4>like you just said, oh, punch one, here's cash. Buttell,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, uppercut, Dan Bongino, Deputy FBI Director, what

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<v Speaker 4>are you going to do about it?

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<v Speaker 5>I love that analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at the leadership program of the Rockies retreat

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<v Speaker 2>over the weekend and at the Broad Moor and Newt

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<v Speaker 2>Ginrick was the speaker on Friday night.

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<v Speaker 5>I love this saying he came up with.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, now, there's the traditional maha we all love,

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<v Speaker 2>make America healthy again. But he has a two point

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<v Speaker 2>zero another maha that we should integrate, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>make America honest again. And I think with Doge and

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<v Speaker 2>everything that's coming clean on that, with the exposing what

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<v Speaker 2>happened with JFK and the Epstein files and all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening with Ukraine and what we're finding out about

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<v Speaker 2>what's really gone on there, and in education with Title nine,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're exposing all this stuff and it is

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<v Speaker 2>shock and awe. But I do think make America honest again,

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<v Speaker 2>what a great, great tagline. And I do think that

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to argue on the Democrat side that that

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<v Speaker 2>isn't a good goal.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and it's something James Carville said here, and I

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<v Speaker 4>guess we'll just come out of the gate with its

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<v Speaker 4>I have the sound on this side.

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<v Speaker 3>But when one of the greatest.

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<v Speaker 4>Strategists and minds of the Democratic Party, at least in

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<v Speaker 4>this generation and certainly over the last thirty years, when

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<v Speaker 4>his best advice to Democrats is to lay low, stay

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<v Speaker 4>out of sight, say nothing, not even be seen, and

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<v Speaker 4>don't be heard. I mean, that's the best he's got.

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<v Speaker 4>Just listen to what he says here about Elizabeth Lawren.

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<v Speaker 6>But what I've said very public said, Democrats need to

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<v Speaker 6>play possum.

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<v Speaker 5>This whole thing is collapsing.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't need Elizabeth Warren and somebody's screaming to pacify

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<v Speaker 6>some progressive adversing groups in Washington, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 6>I wish.

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<v Speaker 5>These people were just useless.

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<v Speaker 7>They're actually worse than useless.

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<v Speaker 6>That they're detrimental and they never ever learned to shut up.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a character I do like listening to him

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<v Speaker 2>raging Cajun. He does not hold back, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>our own folks who don't hold back. And it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to see how the anti Trumpers or the never trumpers

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<v Speaker 2>are reacting to everything that's going on too. They've been

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<v Speaker 2>pretty quiet overall, I would say, in Colorado not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually trying to kind of take credit for some

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<v Speaker 5>I saw or I.

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<v Speaker 2>Heard at the retreat, which really ticked me off. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>where have you been for the last four years as

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<v Speaker 2>we battled all these horrible things going on against Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, everybody and their brother wants to know

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<v Speaker 2>say that they were the original Doge.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm I'm going to be one of those people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I talked about going to zero income tax

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<v Speaker 2>year in the first term, forty percent overall, and people

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was nuts. The liberal media went crazy. How

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<v Speaker 2>on earth could she say that she's insane, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>reduce bureaucracy, she will leave kids starving on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, there's plenty of waste and fraud.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we could cut ten percent right there, absolutely not,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no waste in fraud.

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<v Speaker 5>And Jared Poulus would stand.

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<v Speaker 2>On the debate stage and smile and say, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's wonderful. Everything's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>I love those debates because you just flattened them, and

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<v Speaker 4>every one of them was entertaining to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I had my popcorn ready and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's just factually inaccurate to suggest that there isn't waste,

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<v Speaker 4>fraud and abuse. Barack Obama, when he was president was

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<v Speaker 4>talking about this sort of thing and.

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<v Speaker 3>Designing a task force.

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<v Speaker 4>Al Gore was appointed to head that up in Bill

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<v Speaker 4>Clinton's first term. It's what he ran on as a

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<v Speaker 4>moderate Democrat. And to his credit and Gingrich has who

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned earlier, they passed two balanced budgets in Clinton's

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<v Speaker 4>second term in office.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think back, like you said.

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<v Speaker 4>These never trumpers, these neo cons that are left in

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<v Speaker 4>the past, the dust spin of history when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to our party right now, I just think backhiding. I

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<v Speaker 4>was a very strong supporter of George W. Bush in

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and four, and I remember all the promises

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<v Speaker 4>he made on the campaign trail. What he won on,

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<v Speaker 4>did he govern on that, did he enact those policies.

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<v Speaker 4>Did he sign executive orders?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 4>And so when even the Democrats join in in this

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<v Speaker 4>recent poll, I think was CBS News saying, yeah, seventy

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<v Speaker 4>percent of Americans say, Hey, Trump's doing what he said

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<v Speaker 4>he was going to do and running on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the flurry of activity with executive orders.

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump promise has made promises kept even better than

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<v Speaker 4>he did in the first term, knowing the lay of

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<v Speaker 4>the land and the landscape politically, and that he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to need Acts of Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>To make these things stick.

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<v Speaker 4>But he doesn't need one to write the executive orders

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<v Speaker 4>and get the ball rolling. And so I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>that you could view this first month in office, Heidi's

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<v Speaker 4>anything other than an unmitigated success for Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 4>everything that we voted for.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, and I'm a little worried about Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>They seem to be moving a little slow. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see more a sense of urgency with the Senate

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<v Speaker 2>and the House of Representatives, but specifically our congressional members, like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, guys, get it together, let's move on. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get a budget across the finish line so that we

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<v Speaker 2>can really deep dive in and get some of these

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<v Speaker 2>executive orders put into long term play through legislation. And

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<v Speaker 2>there is no excuse, no excuse for us to not

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<v Speaker 2>go all in to get these things memorialized. And if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't do the right things, then let's get ready

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<v Speaker 2>and let's primary a lot of people who don't play

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<v Speaker 2>ball correctly. Now we've got four congressmen out of the

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<v Speaker 2>eight in Colorado, congressmen and a woman, and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>they're fighters. They're going to go in, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>try and do the right things. They're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>what we want past they We've got to stop having

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with the Colorado GOP care race every day

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<v Speaker 2>and the drama around that. It's ridiculous and it's wasting

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's time, the back and forth, the lawsuits, that why

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<v Speaker 2>can't we all just get along? And so I sat

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<v Speaker 2>on my podcast the other day. My Unleashed podcast is

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<v Speaker 2>back out there. I put one out yesterday, it's out

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<v Speaker 2>on social media today, and I kind of go off

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<v Speaker 5>You know, what we can agree on.

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<v Speaker 2>We can all agree that we don't like what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado. We don't like what the Democrats are doing

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado. We can also all agree, except for a

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<v Speaker 2>few never trumpers, which whatever, we can all agree that

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<v Speaker 2>we love what's happening nationally, that what's happening in the

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<v Speaker 2>White House is what we want here in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 5>So if we just agree.

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<v Speaker 2>On those two things, why does anything else matter?

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And most of the people running for the different positions

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<v Speaker 2>and the different offices and the different county chair positions,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody pretty much agree on policy. I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I feel on the ground as I travel the state,

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<v Speaker 2>like if all of these people were in Congress, they

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<v Speaker 2>would all vote the same way.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just it's this purity test. It's sys some what

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<v Speaker 5>if contests. What if this were to happen, What if

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<v Speaker 5>this vote came up?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we need to deal in what is real, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to dig into that in the next segment

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<v Speaker 2>and talk about numbers around unaffiliateds, around Republicans, around turnout

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<v Speaker 2>and actually look at the data, because I think at

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<v Speaker 2>this point we need to put a motion aside and

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<v Speaker 2>look at data, numbers, the reality of the situation we're

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado and figure out how to get a path forward.

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<v Speaker 5>Knowing exactly what we need to do, how many voters.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to bring across what those voters resonate with

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<v Speaker 2>message wise, and I have some input from some polsters

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<v Speaker 2>on that front too. I'll tease it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing we should not talk about here in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>For whatever reason. Colorado's do not want the Department of

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<v Speaker 2>Education torn down, So we've got to be careful.

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<v Speaker 5>Around I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the right thing to do block grant

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<v Speaker 2>that money back to the states, but they're worried. Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>are worried that that money's of course going to go

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<v Speaker 2>into the wrong hands here in Colorado and be spent

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong way. And Democrats just think it's a terrible

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<v Speaker 2>thing and that education is going to get even worse

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<v Speaker 2>than it is, which in Colorado that's pretty hard to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Our kids can't read, write, or do math at grade level.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to deep dive right now. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a break. We'll be back after this. Heidi

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<v Speaker 2>ganall in for Dan Kaplis.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, Bryan, that's so sad.

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<v Speaker 4>I know we lost her bird of Flack and wow,

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<v Speaker 4>she lived a full life age of eighty eight and

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<v Speaker 4>of course, this is one of a handful of top

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<v Speaker 4>charting hits that she had. Her biggest hit'll be coming

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<v Speaker 4>up next. Oh okay, you'll recognize it. She beautiful pea music,

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<v Speaker 4>tremendous voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So talk about something equally as sad, the state

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<v Speaker 2>of the Republican Party in Colorado, the conservative movement.

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<v Speaker 3>Ouch.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know where to start, Ryan. I took

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of notes, I did some digging on different data.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's where we are, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to flip about four hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>votes in Colorado to win statewide. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>break this down. There's three point seven million registered voters

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado, and of those a lot are unaffiliateds.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got one point eight million.

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<v Speaker 2>Unaffiliated registered voters or they're not they're unaffiliated, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>not registered Republican or Democrat. If you take the unaffiliateds

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<v Speaker 2>that tend to vote Democrat, that's about sixty percent. So

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<v Speaker 2>out of all the affiliated, it's about sixty percent typically

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<v Speaker 2>vote in the last couple elections Democrat. Forty percent vote Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you take that and subtract that one point

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<v Speaker 2>one million minus about seven hundred and thirty eight thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>It's four hundred and fifty one thousand is the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where I get the four hundred thousand gap.

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<v Speaker 2>Now where are we going to get those folks? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a lot of voters.

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<v Speaker 5>That didn't vote in the last couple elections.

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<v Speaker 2>So about two million in the twenty two election did

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<v Speaker 2>not vote, like Democrat and unaffiliated and Republican, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you've got Republicans who only voted. About seventy percent of

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans voted. Thirty percent of Republicans did not vote in

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<v Speaker 2>the general election, and I think that's both elections.

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<v Speaker 5>Overall.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty four, about seventy percent of Colorado registered

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<v Speaker 2>active voters voted, So there are tons of people who

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<v Speaker 2>do not vote. We do not have a registration problem

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado. A lot of people are like get scot

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<v Speaker 2>prosts are out here to register people. It's actually more

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<v Speaker 2>of a get people to vote and get the right

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<v Speaker 2>people to vote problem here in Colorado. So we need

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<v Speaker 2>every Republican to vote that's registered Republican if the election

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<v Speaker 2>were tomorrow, and that would add about two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand to our vote total statewide.

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<v Speaker 5>And then we need.

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<v Speaker 2>All of the unaffiliateds that have voted Republican in the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple elections to vote. And then we need two

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<v Speaker 2>about two hundred thousand more to come to our side

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<v Speaker 2>from the people who have voted Democrat, the unaffiliated who

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<v Speaker 2>have voted Democrat. And that depends on Republican turnout. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>if every Republican turned out, we would need two hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>If only seventy percent turnout, then we need four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty thousand to come our way. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>daunting task. But what I've been trying to tell people

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<v Speaker 2>is you are the leader you've been waiting for in

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<v Speaker 2>are the leader of your sphere of influence. Make a

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<v Speaker 2>list of everyone you know who's like minded, and then

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<v Speaker 2>get to know all your neighbors better. You can get

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<v Speaker 2>to know your precinct chair, which is basically your neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>cheerleader for the conservative movement in your neighborhood. You can

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<v Speaker 2>find out who that is by calling the Colorado GOP,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the county GOP.

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<v Speaker 5>And asking and they'll connect you.

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<v Speaker 2>And if there isn't one, because there are tons of

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<v Speaker 2>vacancies for precinct chairs around this state. Volunteer to be

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<v Speaker 2>that person. It's not hard, it's not brain surgery.

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<v Speaker 5>We can do this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've had brain surgery, so I can say that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got to start local. You've got to get

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<v Speaker 2>active in your neighborhood. You have to attend your county commissioners,

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<v Speaker 2>go live, and even if you can only go for

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<v Speaker 2>And then get to know your elected officials in your

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<v Speaker 2>you like, what you don't like, Republican and Democrat. And then, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>we have got to got to got to focus on

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<v Speaker 2>issues that are going to be okay to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>with everybody. And I've been talking to the pollsters about

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<v Speaker 2>this about Colorado and where things stand, and there are

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<v Speaker 2>two things that people are totally fired up about on

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<v Speaker 2>both sides that are okay to talk about. We have

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<v Speaker 2>from perspectives about how to solve those problems. But what

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<v Speaker 2>is the economy?

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<v Speaker 5>Inflation? Affordability.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other is crime, and that includes illegal immigration,

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<v Speaker 2>sanctuary state status, it includes all of those things that

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<v Speaker 2>we're dealing with in Colorado, fentanyl. So you've got crime,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've got the economy crime and the economy of

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<v Speaker 2>the economy and crime.

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<v Speaker 5>Those are the things we should be talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About when we're out chatting with our neighbors, when we're

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<v Speaker 2>testifying on a bill, when we're testifying to our county

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<v Speaker 2>commissioners or city council. It works magic and find little

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<v Speaker 2>places where you can agree, like, Hey, it's really expensive

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<v Speaker 2>to go out to eat lately, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, it is. Why do you think that is?

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<v Speaker 2>Ask a lot of questions, as I learned in sales,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was in sales a lot of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be listening most of the time and learning

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<v Speaker 2>and asking questions and finding out what makes people tick.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I learned from the polsters that what makes

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<v Speaker 2>people tick in Colorado the unaffiliated voters, the famous unaffiliated voters.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're really talking about the four hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand or two hundred thousand, whatever number you want to use,

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<v Speaker 2>between two hundred and fifty and five hundred thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to swing our way to change this state.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the economy and it's crime, and the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 2>handing us a gift with this. They are making every

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<v Speaker 2>bad decision they possibly can at the legislature, in the

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<v Speaker 2>governor's mansion, in Congress, the Democrats are making every bad decision.

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<v Speaker 5>They can and they do not have anything to stand on.

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<v Speaker 2>As James Carvill said, be quiet, sit down and be quiet. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm asking you not to sit down and be quiet,

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<v Speaker 2>but to stand up, speak out, get out of your house,

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<v Speaker 2>talk to folks, and start now. We cannot wait until

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<v Speaker 2>the elections here. We've got some very very critical school

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<v Speaker 2>board elections coming up this fall. How about we start

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<v Speaker 2>in Jefferson County, Colorado, where, oh my goodness, every other

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<v Speaker 2>day it's a different story. God bless Lindsay dot Co

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<v Speaker 2>with jeff co Kiss. First, she's so patient, so she's

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<v Speaker 2>so kind in the way she approaches the criticism of

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening. I won't be as kind. It's really messed up.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it's not a better I don't know a

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<v Speaker 2>better time to elect different people to the Jefferson County

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<v Speaker 2>school Board. You guys should watch some of those meetings.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the last one. I encouraged everybody to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and a whopping I don't know thirty people showed up

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<v Speaker 2>online to watch it. I'm like, do you guys not

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<v Speaker 2>read all the articles about what's happening with teachers being

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<v Speaker 2>accused of sexual misconduct and a teacher who groomed a

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<v Speaker 2>on California. She's past eighteen now, but their story after

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<v Speaker 2>story so at In just a few minutes, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have the infamous George Brockler.

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<v Speaker 5>On with us.

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<v Speaker 3>Infamous is a great word for him.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a sure thing, George. It's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He is our district attorney for he's district attorney down

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<v Speaker 2>in Douglas County, and.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so great to have a fighter.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to have a fighter compared to all the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that's going on in California. And we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the sanctuary state issue. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about what's happening in Jefferson County, and we're really just

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<v Speaker 2>going to break down how do we change what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>as parents, as Republicans, as unaffiliateds who might be open

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<v Speaker 2>to voting differently. What will we do differently if we

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<v Speaker 2>govern to stop this stuff from happening.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you're hearing it from the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>You're hearing no more boys playing in girls' sports, no

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<v Speaker 2>more DEI, no more of this stuff happening in our schools,

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<v Speaker 2>or you're going to lose funding. Like that's what needs

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<v Speaker 2>to happen from the top. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>what needs to happen here in Colorado and from the

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<v Speaker 5>So this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Heidigan All filling in for Dan Kaplis. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>right after the break with George Brockler.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Dan Capless Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, Happy Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very excited to have a friend and my district attorney,

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<v Speaker 2>George Brockler, on the line. Hello George, Happy Monday.

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<v Speaker 7>Happy Monday. It was great seeing you and Jason over

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<v Speaker 7>the weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>That was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking a little bit about the OPR retree

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<v Speaker 2>and nuke Ginrick.

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<v Speaker 5>Saying make America honest again. I love that.

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<v Speaker 7>I think some of the funniest stuff came out of

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<v Speaker 7>a speaker nude, especially when he said, a look the

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<v Speaker 7>difference between conservatives and the liberals that they view The

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<v Speaker 7>Lion King as a documentary, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>Like he says, lions eat gazelle's and they say no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>They get along great. That was hilarious. That was That

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<v Speaker 5>was a crazy weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love that weekend because it's like six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred patriots in one place and we haven't seen each other,

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<v Speaker 2>most of us, in like a year, and everybody stays

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<v Speaker 2>I mean stays up pretty much all night, like till

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<v Speaker 2>three or four in the morning, hanging out talking.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you get up and you're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 5>I forgot how old I am. Oh that was.

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<v Speaker 7>That was. That's right, still recovering.

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<v Speaker 5>So George Colorado was not recovering yet.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love what you've been saying about what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>with this push that I mean, Paulus is basically saying

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<v Speaker 2>we're not a sanctuary state, and you're saying, oh, yes

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<v Speaker 2>we are, So tell us what the distinction is there?

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<v Speaker 7>I'll sit down with anybody to do an interview and

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<v Speaker 7>Westwood came out to interview me on this, and I

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<v Speaker 7>told them the same thing, like, it doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 7>the governor or mayor Johnston say. They could call it

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<v Speaker 7>happy fun town. What really matters is the policy and

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<v Speaker 7>the different approaches that they take to this. And when

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<v Speaker 7>we have changed our laws multiple times to make it

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<v Speaker 7>less painful for illegal immigrants to commit crimes in the

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<v Speaker 7>those crimes, and they've done it, and to keep probation

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<v Speaker 7>from reporting the fact that they have convicted criminal illegal

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<v Speaker 7>aliens that they're supervising here even though America says you

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<v Speaker 7>shouldn't be here. They can't communicate that with ice. You

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<v Speaker 7>have a sanctuary state. But oh, by the way, then

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<v Speaker 7>they add on the other things, like well, let's make

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<v Speaker 7>illegal immigrants eligible for housing assistance and to get licensure

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<v Speaker 7>so they can compete with citizens and people who are

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<v Speaker 7>and set up shop. And that's what we've seen over

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<v Speaker 7>the past. I don't know five ten years now.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you do differently, like now that you're

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<v Speaker 2>in office, what do you tactically do every day to

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<v Speaker 2>beat back against this and what can't you fix or do?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, some of the limitations are on the lack of

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<v Speaker 7>knowledge that we have about all the people that are

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<v Speaker 7>in our jails and the people that are in our system.

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<v Speaker 7>What the public should end is full transparency, and the

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<v Speaker 7>legislature has really operated from an ignorance's bliss approach to this,

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<v Speaker 7>which is, hey, if we don't allow law enforcement to

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<v Speaker 7>collect this information or to coordinate information with ice, then

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<v Speaker 7>nobody can ever run study that says, hey, twenty five

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<v Speaker 7>to thirty five percent of all the crime and the

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<v Speaker 7>jurisdiction are in the state is committed by people who

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<v Speaker 7>are here illegally. Now I made that number up, but

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<v Speaker 7>I'd have to because we can't know the number right.

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<v Speaker 7>So part of the problem is we're in an information

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<v Speaker 7>deficit and maybe an information desert. And so for us,

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<v Speaker 7>approach is where we know that someone will be negatively

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<v Speaker 7>impacted by the results of their criminal conduct, I take

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<v Speaker 7>no affirmative stats to lessen that impact. So there are

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<v Speaker 7>some jurisdictions historically, and even now that we'll try to

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<v Speaker 7>do something called an immigration friendly plea, I do no

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<v Speaker 7>such thing. You are going to get the same plea bargain.

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<v Speaker 7>Whether you're here legally, illegally, citizen, non citizen, legal resident,

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't matter. You come here and break the law. Your

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<v Speaker 7>expectation should be you're treated the same by the law.

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<v Speaker 5>That's good. That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>So is Paul's changing his tune on like in the

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<v Speaker 2>tactics of what he's doing and allowing his staff and

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<v Speaker 2>bureaucracy to do. Or is everything staying the same. His

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<v Speaker 2>rhetoric's just changing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he's changed his rhetoric. And if you listen, he's

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<v Speaker 7>a smart guy, I mean the governor. For people that

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<v Speaker 7>want to dismiss him, they're making a mistake because he's

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<v Speaker 7>politically pragmatic in a way that you don't see from

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<v Speaker 7>Phil Wiser. Like Phil Wiser is not just human shock

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<v Speaker 7>in terms of delivery of the message, but he does

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<v Speaker 7>not have the nuanced appreciation for these things. The way

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<v Speaker 7>Governor polls and his team do it just makes them very,

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<v Speaker 7>very different, even though they're both successful in elections. The

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<v Speaker 7>governor has changed his tun if you listen to what

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<v Speaker 7>he talks about. He's like, we're not a sanctuary state

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<v Speaker 7>because we cooperate with ICE for violent felons and violent criminals.

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<v Speaker 7>That part might be true, but it's limited to just

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<v Speaker 7>the violent ones.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not.

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<v Speaker 7>It doesn't encompass things like your retail theft rings or

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<v Speaker 7>your other property crime committers, your burglars, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 7>businesses or residences. The chronic drunk drivers that we have

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<v Speaker 7>who have had two or three bites at the apple,

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<v Speaker 7>even though they shouldn't be here to begin with those

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<v Speaker 7>parts we don't have the same level of cooperation and

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<v Speaker 7>coordination with. But where people should feel really encouraged is

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<v Speaker 7>that you had a willing participant in that ignorance piece

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<v Speaker 7>under the Biden administration for ICE. And if anybody has

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<v Speaker 7>listened to a single word out of Tom Holman's mouth,

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<v Speaker 7>President Trump got elected, those days be over. And now

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<v Speaker 7>you have an ICE that at least appears to be

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<v Speaker 7>interested in trying to deport the people that are visiting

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<v Speaker 7>crime on our communities.

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<v Speaker 2>And how big of a problem is this in Colorado?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, when I was running, I heard a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about the I twenty five corridor and the federal trafficking,

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<v Speaker 2>the human trafficking. Is it as big of a problem

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<v Speaker 2>as it appeared to be, then.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, Listen, Colorado is unique when it comes to

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<v Speaker 7>human trafficking because what you have found statistically is that

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<v Speaker 7>human trafficking is biggest in places that have major highways

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<v Speaker 7>federal highways that run through them, and also associated with

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<v Speaker 7>cities that have major sports teams. Well, I twenty five

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<v Speaker 7>and I seventy converge right there in Denver with the

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<v Speaker 7>Broncos and the Abs, and arguably the Rockies are major League.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm kidding. I love the Rockies, just want them to

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<v Speaker 7>be better and.

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<v Speaker 3>All this other stuff. So we do.

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<v Speaker 7>We have historically human trafficking issues, and there is a

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<v Speaker 7>role that the cartels in illegal groups play in those

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<v Speaker 7>as well. And it's not just women, and it's not

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<v Speaker 7>just folks south of the border. This takes place from

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<v Speaker 7>people from all over the world. They get brought here

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<v Speaker 7>under false pretenses and then they're either their visas or

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<v Speaker 7>if they have a passport, their passports or whatever withheld

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<v Speaker 7>from them so that they end up in servitude to

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<v Speaker 7>the people that are kind of controlling them and using

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<v Speaker 7>them for these largely sexual purposes.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So talking about human trafficking, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>what happened at Columine High School with the student who

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<v Speaker 2>was I would call it trafficked to go live with

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<v Speaker 2>her predator, who was a teacher. Like, what the heck

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<v Speaker 2>is going on in Jefferson County.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. I grew up in Jeffcoe. I'm a

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<v Speaker 7>Lakewood kid. I went to Belmar Elementary, Carmody Junior High,

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<v Speaker 7>Bear Creek High School. I mean, I still have family

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<v Speaker 7>that lives in Jeffcoe. I don't know what's going on there,

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<v Speaker 7>but for one of the largest school districts in the state,

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<v Speaker 7>they have some explaining to do here. Now, again, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not privy to what has taken place in terms of

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<v Speaker 7>any investigation. I don't know any more than you guys

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<v Speaker 7>do from reading this. But as a guy who's got

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<v Speaker 7>a prosecutor's mind in a father's heart, I have significant

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<v Speaker 7>concerns with what has not taken place. So when I'm

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<v Speaker 7>told by the media that there are forms, federal forms

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<v Speaker 7>that are filled out by administrators that advance aknown lie

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<v Speaker 7>about the homelessness of this kid, that to me seems

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<v Speaker 7>like a fraudulent or even forged document. There has to

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<v Speaker 7>be some federal law that creates a penalty for that,

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<v Speaker 7>and for anyone that's ever filled out a federal form

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<v Speaker 7>you know, at the bottom in teeny tiny language it says,

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<v Speaker 7>I swear that these things are true under penalty of

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<v Speaker 7>perjury and all this other stuff. Someone's got to look

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<v Speaker 7>into that. I don't know if someone has already and

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<v Speaker 7>has said, hey, we don't think we have enough here,

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<v Speaker 7>but we're going to get a new US attorney in

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<v Speaker 7>the state of Colorado over the next six to twelve months,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's going to be a Trump appointed US attorney.

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<v Speaker 7>They have the ability to look into this stuff. The

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<v Speaker 7>other things are, how can the school district get away

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<v Speaker 7>with an oops, I'm sorry approach to this? I put

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<v Speaker 7>out an apology like, well, what the mistakes were made

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<v Speaker 7>and things should have had It's like, dudes and dodets

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<v Speaker 7>should be let go from education. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 7>they were the Jesus of public education up to that moment.

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<v Speaker 7>You participate in this charade. You are Dunnsville.

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<v Speaker 5>It is over.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know why that hasn't happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you, district's attorney Brockler and I'm glad you're

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<v Speaker 2>my district attorney in Douglas County. I love jeffco too,

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<v Speaker 2>but man, I just every day it's a new story

552
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<v Speaker 2>over there and parents really need to wake up and

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<v Speaker 2>understand what's going on. Thanks George for all you do,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm excited to see you make a big splash

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<v Speaker 2>fighting back against this stuff. I know you will, and

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<v Speaker 2>would love to chat with you more on air soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Happy to do that.

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<v Speaker 7>One quick thing. We have three pending cases against educators

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<v Speaker 7>in this jurisdiction. Oh wow, presumed innocent and I don't

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<v Speaker 7>want to get into the details, but we've got three.

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<v Speaker 7>How is it that some people can show up to

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<v Speaker 7>a school and see kids that want to learn and

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<v Speaker 7>others see a romantic opportunity. Oh don't get it.

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<v Speaker 5>That is just horrible, horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's disgusting, and thank you for taking a stern approach

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<v Speaker 2>to that. And I hope that justice prevails whichever way

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<v Speaker 2>it goes.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm glad you're doing that.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks. Thanks Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, this is Heidi Ganal filling in for

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Kaplis. That was District Attorney George Brockler talking about

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<v Speaker 2>crime and what's happening in our schools in Colorado, which

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty disturbing. And we will be back after this

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<v Speaker 2>break to talk more.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Capliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>That music just puts me in a zone, like in

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<v Speaker 2>a really happy zone.

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<v Speaker 4>Like good day zone for those of you driving home

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<v Speaker 4>from work or paying tribute to the late ROBERTA.

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<v Speaker 3>Flak who passed away at the age of eighty eight today.

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<v Speaker 5>Gosh, that's sad. Well, Onto, as I opened last time, more.

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<v Speaker 2>Said Stoff talking about the Colorado Republican Party state.

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<v Speaker 5>And I love my Republicans. I love my party. It's

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<v Speaker 5>like family to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And who are you most brutally honest with?

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, because I want things to get better, same,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Ryan.

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<v Speaker 5>So we've got to talk about this opt out thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so confusing and it's what is riling up

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<v Speaker 2>the whole Republican Party right now. And if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>into like deep dive, you know, Republican party stuff, just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stick with us for a few minutes, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would love feedback. If you are into this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>you can call us at three zho three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three eight two five five, or you can text five

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<v Speaker 2>seven seven three nine to Dan and I will get

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<v Speaker 2>that text message and I'll address your questions or comments.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's two things going on here.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>People are saying, oh, I'm going to vote, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to I want so and so to be chair of

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<v Speaker 2>the GOP in Colorado because I want unaffiliateds to not

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<v Speaker 2>be able to vote in Republican primaries. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>other people who are like, no, no, no, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to bring more people in.

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<v Speaker 5>You heard me.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about those numbers if you were listening in the

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<v Speaker 2>first segment, where we have one point eight million unaffiliated voters,

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<v Speaker 2>and of those voters, sixty percent typically vote Democrat in

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado in the last few elections and forty percent vote Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>So we need all those ones that typically vote Republican,

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<v Speaker 2>and we need to bring over a few hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>from the ones that typically vote Democrat. So if we

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<v Speaker 2>do away with the primary, which is what the vote

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<v Speaker 2>is actually on, if we do a vote on what

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<v Speaker 2>they can vote on the central Committee, Sorry, stick with me,

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<v Speaker 2>this is really complicated. So if these folks get elected

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<v Speaker 2>and they have a vote, they could even do it

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<v Speaker 2>now before before the chair race technically, but it will

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<v Speaker 2>probably be after a new chair is elected, they'll vote

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll say we want to get out of the

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<v Speaker 2>primary completely. They have to have seventy five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the Central Committee, which is about I think it's about

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred and fifty people, and I am a bonus member.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm on that committee now for Douglas County.

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<v Speaker 2>So seventy five percent of those folks have to vote

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<v Speaker 2>to opt out of a primary. And what that means

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<v Speaker 2>is there will be no primary as we know it.

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<v Speaker 5>It will strictly.

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<v Speaker 2>Go through a caucus or assembly process, and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like it is now. So what will happen is one

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<v Speaker 2>candidate will have to come out of that assembly. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's typically if you get thirty percent, you get on

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<v Speaker 2>the ballot, and there's usually a couple of people in

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<v Speaker 2>the primary and it's raucous, and then all the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>and unaffiliates who pick a Republican ballot gets to vote,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you get your candidate that goes on the

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<v Speaker 2>general election to go up against the Democrats. Well this

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<v Speaker 2>in this case, you won't be able to petition on

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<v Speaker 2>like some candidates do, and there won't be multiple people

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of assembly. It'll be one person, one person.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there's a couple problems with this.

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<v Speaker 5>One is you you will not.

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<v Speaker 2>Get a primary ballot if you are a Republican in

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<v Speaker 2>this state. So the only way you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 2>be involved in picking our primary candidate is to get

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<v Speaker 2>a seat at that assembly, and they have not determined

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<v Speaker 2>what the rules are for that. We've got, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred thousand Republican voters registered Republicans in this state.

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<v Speaker 2>How are they going to hear the most people possible

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<v Speaker 2>because usually that assembly is about three or four thousand people.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the first problem. If you're a registered Republican

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not part of the assembly process, you will

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<v Speaker 2>not have a say in who the primary goes to.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing is the unaffiliated voters will still get

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<v Speaker 2>a Democrat primary ballot. They will still get when now

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<v Speaker 2>right now, they get both, they get a Democrat and

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<v Speaker 2>a Republican ballot in the mail and they have to

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<v Speaker 2>pick one.

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<v Speaker 5>They cannot turn both.

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<v Speaker 2>In, and so they will still get the Democrat ballot,

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<v Speaker 2>but they won't get a Republican ballot anymore. So they'll

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<v Speaker 2>just get one ballot and they'll think, oh, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to vote for this person and the likelihood that

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<v Speaker 2>they vote again for that person in the general election.

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<v Speaker 2>Psychologically it's pretty strong like they're probably gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think we're shooting ourselves in the foot

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<v Speaker 2>if we literally opt out of having a primary as

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<v Speaker 2>we know it now.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, Do I.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree that Republicans should be able to pick their primary

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<v Speaker 2>candidate and Democrats should be able to pick their primary candidate,

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<v Speaker 2>and unaffiliated.

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<v Speaker 5>Should pick a side. Yeah, I tend to go towards that.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lawsuit going through the system right now that was filed

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<v Speaker 2>with I believe Kevin Lamberg is the head of that lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's with the GOP because they tried it before

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<v Speaker 2>without the GOP and they wouldn't let the judge wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>let that go. So it's going through the courts right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the Claremont Institute lawsuit. And if you are

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<v Speaker 2>interested in not doing the whole opt out like they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about now, where we don't have a primary pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much we have a primary or not as it stands now,

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<v Speaker 2>then and you still don't want unaffiliates to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to vote in the Republican primary, then you need to

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<v Speaker 2>support that lawsuit, and you can donate to the Claarmont

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<v Speaker 2>Institute and help them. It's going to be a while

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<v Speaker 2>before that gets decided. I think they're in disclosure or

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing all the research right now in the case.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's your option. You can support that lawsuit and

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<v Speaker 2>see where the courts fall out and say they would

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<v Speaker 2>say the whole thing was constitutional. So my understanding is

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats and Republicans would fall under that, like the

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<v Speaker 2>whole ballot initiative that we voted on was unconstitutional.

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<v Speaker 5>So I know that was super complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have questions or want to call in after

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<v Speaker 2>the break, please do and I'll take the call and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll chat about it. This is Heidigan All filling in

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<v Speaker 2>for Dan Caplis. We'll see after the break.
