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Speaker 2: Well, Happy Monday, Colorado. It's Heidi Ganal filling in for
Speaker 2: Dan Caplis. I'm really happy to be here. There has
Speaker 2: been so much going on. I like to say every
Speaker 2: day is like Christmas right now. Ryan, I mean, there
Speaker 2: are so many things happening. It's making everybody's head spin,
Speaker 2: especially the Democrats. I mean last night, Dan Bongino, I
Speaker 2: mean I think he became enemy number one and out
Speaker 2: and displaced Cash Ptel.
Speaker 3: What do you think.
Speaker 4: He's definitely making liberals headspin. He's been very combative in
Speaker 4: his own podcast and radio show, and he has not
Speaker 4: been shy about it whatsoever.
Speaker 3: And it's just I go back to this quote from
Speaker 3: John Fetterman.
Speaker 4: He appeared with the Ladies on the View and he
Speaker 4: gave some sage advice as.
Speaker 3: He has wont to do, but they won't.
Speaker 4: It's like we can't be like cats with the red
Speaker 4: laser beam following around every little thing.
Speaker 3: That Donald Trump does.
Speaker 4: They don't pick their battles, their scattershot, they don't have
Speaker 4: a targeted approach.
Speaker 3: They just have these knee jerk.
Speaker 4: Responses, threat to democracy, Nazi hitler, blah blah blah. And meanwhile,
Speaker 4: like you just said, oh, punch one, here's cash. Buttell,
Speaker 4: by the way, uppercut, Dan Bongino, Deputy FBI Director, what
Speaker 4: are you going to do about it?
Speaker 5: I love that analogy.
Speaker 2: I was at the leadership program of the Rockies retreat
Speaker 2: over the weekend and at the Broad Moor and Newt
Speaker 2: Ginrick was the speaker on Friday night.
Speaker 5: I love this saying he came up with.
Speaker 2: He goes, now, there's the traditional maha we all love,
Speaker 2: make America healthy again. But he has a two point
Speaker 2: zero another maha that we should integrate, and that is
Speaker 2: make America honest again. And I think with Doge and
Speaker 2: everything that's coming clean on that, with the exposing what
Speaker 2: happened with JFK and the Epstein files and all of that,
Speaker 2: what's happening with Ukraine and what we're finding out about
Speaker 2: what's really gone on there, and in education with Title nine,
Speaker 2: I mean, we're exposing all this stuff and it is
Speaker 2: shock and awe. But I do think make America honest again,
Speaker 2: what a great, great tagline. And I do think that
Speaker 2: it's hard to argue on the Democrat side that that
Speaker 2: isn't a good goal.
Speaker 4: Well, and it's something James Carville said here, and I
Speaker 4: guess we'll just come out of the gate with its
Speaker 4: I have the sound on this side.
Speaker 3: But when one of the greatest.
Speaker 4: Strategists and minds of the Democratic Party, at least in
Speaker 4: this generation and certainly over the last thirty years, when
Speaker 4: his best advice to Democrats is to lay low, stay
Speaker 4: out of sight, say nothing, not even be seen, and
Speaker 4: don't be heard. I mean, that's the best he's got.
Speaker 4: Just listen to what he says here about Elizabeth Lawren.
Speaker 6: But what I've said very public said, Democrats need to
Speaker 6: play possum.
Speaker 5: This whole thing is collapsing.
Speaker 6: It doesn't need Elizabeth Warren and somebody's screaming to pacify
Speaker 6: some progressive adversing groups in Washington, which, by the way,
Speaker 6: I wish.
Speaker 5: These people were just useless.
Speaker 7: They're actually worse than useless.
Speaker 6: That they're detrimental and they never ever learned to shut up.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 2: He is a character I do like listening to him
Speaker 2: raging Cajun. He does not hold back, and we have
Speaker 2: our own folks who don't hold back. And it's interesting
Speaker 2: to see how the anti Trumpers or the never trumpers
Speaker 2: are reacting to everything that's going on too. They've been
Speaker 2: pretty quiet overall, I would say, in Colorado not so much.
Speaker 2: They're actually trying to kind of take credit for some
Speaker 2: of these things happening.
Speaker 5: I saw or I.
Speaker 2: Heard at the retreat, which really ticked me off. I'm like,
Speaker 2: where have you been for the last four years as
Speaker 2: we battled all these horrible things going on against Donald Trump?
Speaker 2: And you know, everybody and their brother wants to know
Speaker 2: say that they were the original Doge.
Speaker 5: But I'm I'm going to be one of those people.
Speaker 2: I mean, I talked about going to zero income tax
Speaker 2: and reducing the size of bureaucracy by ten percent a
Speaker 2: year in the first term, forty percent overall, and people
Speaker 2: thought I was nuts. The liberal media went crazy. How
Speaker 2: on earth could she say that she's insane, we can't
Speaker 2: reduce bureaucracy, she will leave kids starving on the street.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, there's plenty of waste and fraud.
Speaker 2: I think we could cut ten percent right there, absolutely not,
Speaker 2: there is no waste in fraud.
Speaker 5: And Jared Poulus would stand.
Speaker 2: On the debate stage and smile and say, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: Everything's wonderful. Everything's wonderful.
Speaker 4: I love those debates because you just flattened them, and
Speaker 4: every one of them was entertaining to watch.
Speaker 3: I had my popcorn ready and everything.
Speaker 4: But it's just factually inaccurate to suggest that there isn't waste,
Speaker 4: fraud and abuse. Barack Obama, when he was president was
Speaker 4: talking about this sort of thing and.
Speaker 3: Designing a task force.
Speaker 4: Al Gore was appointed to head that up in Bill
Speaker 4: Clinton's first term. It's what he ran on as a
Speaker 4: moderate Democrat. And to his credit and Gingrich has who
Speaker 4: you mentioned earlier, they passed two balanced budgets in Clinton's
Speaker 4: second term in office.
Speaker 3: And I think back, like you said.
Speaker 4: These never trumpers, these neo cons that are left in
Speaker 4: the past, the dust spin of history when it comes
Speaker 4: to our party right now, I just think backhiding. I
Speaker 4: was a very strong supporter of George W. Bush in
Speaker 4: two thousand and four, and I remember all the promises
Speaker 4: he made on the campaign trail. What he won on,
Speaker 4: did he govern on that, did he enact those policies.
Speaker 4: Did he sign executive orders?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: And so when even the Democrats join in in this
Speaker 4: recent poll, I think was CBS News saying, yeah, seventy
Speaker 4: percent of Americans say, Hey, Trump's doing what he said
Speaker 4: he was going to do and running on it.
Speaker 3: I mean the flurry of activity with executive orders.
Speaker 4: Donald Trump promise has made promises kept even better than
Speaker 4: he did in the first term, knowing the lay of
Speaker 4: the land and the landscape politically, and that he's going
Speaker 4: to need Acts of Congress.
Speaker 3: To make these things stick.
Speaker 4: But he doesn't need one to write the executive orders
Speaker 4: and get the ball rolling. And so I don't know
Speaker 4: that you could view this first month in office, Heidi's
Speaker 4: anything other than an unmitigated success for Donald Trump and
Speaker 4: everything that we voted for.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I'm a little worried about Congress.
Speaker 2: They seem to be moving a little slow. I want
Speaker 2: to see more a sense of urgency with the Senate
Speaker 2: and the House of Representatives, but specifically our congressional members, like,
Speaker 2: come on, guys, get it together, let's move on. Let's
Speaker 2: get a budget across the finish line so that we
Speaker 2: can really deep dive in and get some of these
Speaker 2: executive orders put into long term play through legislation. And
Speaker 2: there is no excuse, no excuse for us to not
Speaker 2: go all in to get these things memorialized. And if
Speaker 2: they don't do the right things, then let's get ready
Speaker 2: and let's primary a lot of people who don't play
Speaker 2: ball correctly. Now we've got four congressmen out of the
Speaker 2: eight in Colorado, congressmen and a woman, and I believe
Speaker 2: they're fighters. They're going to go in, they're going to
Speaker 2: try and do the right things. They're going to get
Speaker 2: what we want past they We've got to stop having
Speaker 2: to deal with the Colorado GOP care race every day
Speaker 2: and the drama around that. It's ridiculous and it's wasting
Speaker 2: everybody's time, the back and forth, the lawsuits, that why
Speaker 2: can't we all just get along? And so I sat
Speaker 2: on my podcast the other day. My Unleashed podcast is
Speaker 2: back out there. I put one out yesterday, it's out
Speaker 2: on social media today, and I kind of go off
Speaker 2: about how.
Speaker 5: You know, what we can agree on.
Speaker 2: We can all agree that we don't like what's happening
Speaker 2: in Colorado. We don't like what the Democrats are doing
Speaker 2: in Colorado. We can also all agree, except for a
Speaker 2: few never trumpers, which whatever, we can all agree that
Speaker 2: we love what's happening nationally, that what's happening in the
Speaker 2: White House is what we want here in Colorado.
Speaker 5: So if we just agree.
Speaker 2: On those two things, why does anything else matter?
Speaker 5: It doesn't.
Speaker 2: And most of the people running for the different positions
Speaker 2: and the different offices and the different county chair positions,
Speaker 2: everybody pretty much agree on policy. I think that's what
Speaker 2: I feel on the ground as I travel the state,
Speaker 2: like if all of these people were in Congress, they
Speaker 2: would all vote the same way.
Speaker 5: It's just it's this purity test. It's sys some what
Speaker 5: if contests. What if this were to happen, What if
Speaker 5: this vote came up?
Speaker 2: Well, we need to deal in what is real, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to dig into that in the next segment
Speaker 2: and talk about numbers around unaffiliateds, around Republicans, around turnout
Speaker 2: and actually look at the data, because I think at
Speaker 2: this point we need to put a motion aside and
Speaker 2: look at data, numbers, the reality of the situation we're
Speaker 2: in Colorado and figure out how to get a path forward.
Speaker 5: Knowing exactly what we need to do, how many voters.
Speaker 2: We need to bring across what those voters resonate with
Speaker 2: message wise, and I have some input from some polsters
Speaker 2: on that front too. I'll tease it a little bit.
Speaker 2: One thing we should not talk about here in Colorado.
Speaker 2: For whatever reason. Colorado's do not want the Department of
Speaker 2: Education torn down, So we've got to be careful.
Speaker 5: Around I do.
Speaker 2: I think it's the right thing to do block grant
Speaker 2: that money back to the states, but they're worried. Republicans
Speaker 2: are worried that that money's of course going to go
Speaker 2: into the wrong hands here in Colorado and be spent
Speaker 2: the wrong way. And Democrats just think it's a terrible
Speaker 2: thing and that education is going to get even worse
Speaker 2: than it is, which in Colorado that's pretty hard to do.
Speaker 2: Our kids can't read, write, or do math at grade level.
Speaker 2: So we're going to deep dive right now. We're going
Speaker 2: to take a break. We'll be back after this. Heidi
Speaker 2: ganall in for Dan Kaplis.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 5: Oh, Bryan, that's so sad.
Speaker 4: I know we lost her bird of Flack and wow,
Speaker 4: she lived a full life age of eighty eight and
Speaker 4: of course, this is one of a handful of top
Speaker 4: charting hits that she had. Her biggest hit'll be coming
Speaker 4: up next. Oh okay, you'll recognize it. She beautiful pea music,
Speaker 4: tremendous voice.
Speaker 2: Okay, So talk about something equally as sad, the state
Speaker 2: of the Republican Party in Colorado, the conservative movement.
Speaker 3: Ouch.
Speaker 2: I don't even know where to start, Ryan. I took
Speaker 2: a lot of notes, I did some digging on different data.
Speaker 5: Here's where we are, guys.
Speaker 2: We need to flip about four hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 2: votes in Colorado to win statewide. And I'm going to
Speaker 2: break this down. There's three point seven million registered voters
Speaker 2: in Colorado, and of those a lot are unaffiliateds.
Speaker 5: We've got one point eight million.
Speaker 2: Unaffiliated registered voters or they're not they're unaffiliated, so they're
Speaker 2: not registered Republican or Democrat. If you take the unaffiliateds
Speaker 2: that tend to vote Democrat, that's about sixty percent. So
Speaker 2: out of all the affiliated, it's about sixty percent typically
Speaker 2: vote in the last couple elections Democrat. Forty percent vote Republican.
Speaker 2: So if you take that and subtract that one point
Speaker 2: one million minus about seven hundred and thirty eight thousand.
Speaker 2: It's four hundred and fifty one thousand is the difference.
Speaker 2: So that's where I get the four hundred thousand gap.
Speaker 2: Now where are we going to get those folks? Well,
Speaker 2: we've got a lot of voters.
Speaker 5: That didn't vote in the last couple elections.
Speaker 2: So about two million in the twenty two election did
Speaker 2: not vote, like Democrat and unaffiliated and Republican, and then
Speaker 2: you've got Republicans who only voted. About seventy percent of
Speaker 2: Republicans voted. Thirty percent of Republicans did not vote in
Speaker 2: the general election, and I think that's both elections.
Speaker 5: Overall.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, about seventy percent of Colorado registered
Speaker 2: active voters voted, So there are tons of people who
Speaker 2: do not vote. We do not have a registration problem
Speaker 2: in Colorado. A lot of people are like get scot
Speaker 2: prosts are out here to register people. It's actually more
Speaker 2: of a get people to vote and get the right
Speaker 2: people to vote problem here in Colorado. So we need
Speaker 2: every Republican to vote that's registered Republican if the election
Speaker 2: were tomorrow, and that would add about two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand to our vote total statewide.
Speaker 5: And then we need.
Speaker 2: All of the unaffiliateds that have voted Republican in the
Speaker 2: last couple elections to vote. And then we need two
Speaker 2: about two hundred thousand more to come to our side
Speaker 2: from the people who have voted Democrat, the unaffiliated who
Speaker 2: have voted Democrat. And that depends on Republican turnout. I said,
Speaker 2: if every Republican turned out, we would need two hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: If only seventy percent turnout, then we need four hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand to come our way. So it's a
Speaker 2: daunting task. But what I've been trying to tell people
Speaker 2: is you are the leader you've been waiting for in
Speaker 2: this party. You are the leader of your neighborhood. You
Speaker 2: are the leader of your sphere of influence. Make a
Speaker 2: list of everyone you know who's like minded, and then
Speaker 2: get to know all your neighbors better. You can get
Speaker 2: to know your precinct chair, which is basically your neighborhood
Speaker 2: cheerleader for the conservative movement in your neighborhood. You can
Speaker 2: find out who that is by calling the Colorado GOP,
Speaker 2: I mean the county GOP.
Speaker 5: And asking and they'll connect you.
Speaker 2: And if there isn't one, because there are tons of
Speaker 2: vacancies for precinct chairs around this state. Volunteer to be
Speaker 2: that person. It's not hard, it's not brain surgery.
Speaker 5: We can do this.
Speaker 2: And I've had brain surgery, so I can say that.
Speaker 2: So you've got to start local. You've got to get
Speaker 2: active in your neighborhood. You have to attend your county commissioners,
Speaker 2: city council, school board race meetings. Don't do it on zoom,
Speaker 2: go live, and even if you can only go for
Speaker 2: a part of it, and have your little two minute
Speaker 2: speech ready and get up there and say your peace.
Speaker 2: And then get to know your elected officials in your
Speaker 2: local neighborhood and start to communicate with them about what
Speaker 2: you like, what you don't like, Republican and Democrat. And then, guys,
Speaker 2: we have got to got to got to focus on
Speaker 2: issues that are going to be okay to talk about
Speaker 2: with everybody. And I've been talking to the pollsters about
Speaker 2: this about Colorado and where things stand, and there are
Speaker 2: two things that people are totally fired up about on
Speaker 2: both sides that are okay to talk about. We have
Speaker 2: from perspectives about how to solve those problems. But what
Speaker 2: is the economy?
Speaker 5: Inflation? Affordability.
Speaker 2: And the other is crime, and that includes illegal immigration,
Speaker 2: sanctuary state status, it includes all of those things that
Speaker 2: we're dealing with in Colorado, fentanyl. So you've got crime,
Speaker 2: and you've got the economy crime and the economy of
Speaker 2: the economy and crime.
Speaker 5: Those are the things we should be talking.
Speaker 2: About when we're out chatting with our neighbors, when we're
Speaker 2: testifying on a bill, when we're testifying to our county
Speaker 2: commissioners or city council. It works magic and find little
Speaker 2: places where you can agree, like, Hey, it's really expensive
Speaker 2: to go out to eat lately, isn't it?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it is. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 2: Ask a lot of questions, as I learned in sales,
Speaker 2: because I was in sales a lot of my life.
Speaker 2: You should be listening most of the time and learning
Speaker 2: and asking questions and finding out what makes people tick.
Speaker 2: And what I learned from the polsters that what makes
Speaker 2: people tick in Colorado the unaffiliated voters, the famous unaffiliated voters.
Speaker 2: And we're really talking about the four hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand or two hundred thousand, whatever number you want to use,
Speaker 2: between two hundred and fifty and five hundred thousand people
Speaker 2: that we need to swing our way to change this state.
Speaker 2: It's the economy and it's crime, and the Democrats are
Speaker 2: handing us a gift with this. They are making every
Speaker 2: bad decision they possibly can at the legislature, in the
Speaker 2: governor's mansion, in Congress, the Democrats are making every bad decision.
Speaker 5: They can and they do not have anything to stand on.
Speaker 2: As James Carvill said, be quiet, sit down and be quiet. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm asking you not to sit down and be quiet,
Speaker 2: but to stand up, speak out, get out of your house,
Speaker 2: talk to folks, and start now. We cannot wait until
Speaker 2: the elections here. We've got some very very critical school
Speaker 2: board elections coming up this fall. How about we start
Speaker 2: in Jefferson County, Colorado, where, oh my goodness, every other
Speaker 2: day it's a different story. God bless Lindsay dot Co
Speaker 2: with jeff co Kiss. First, she's so patient, so she's
Speaker 2: so kind in the way she approaches the criticism of
Speaker 2: what's happening. I won't be as kind. It's really messed up.
Speaker 2: And if it's not a better I don't know a
Speaker 2: better time to elect different people to the Jefferson County
Speaker 2: school Board. You guys should watch some of those meetings.
Speaker 2: I watched the last one. I encouraged everybody to do that,
Speaker 2: and a whopping I don't know thirty people showed up
Speaker 2: online to watch it. I'm like, do you guys not
Speaker 2: read all the articles about what's happening with teachers being
Speaker 2: accused of sexual misconduct and a teacher who groomed a
Speaker 2: student who now I think still lives with the teacher
Speaker 2: on California. She's past eighteen now, but their story after
Speaker 2: story so at In just a few minutes, we're going
Speaker 2: to have the infamous George Brockler.
Speaker 5: On with us.
Speaker 3: Infamous is a great word for him.
Speaker 5: It's a sure thing, George. It's a good thing.
Speaker 2: He is our district attorney for he's district attorney down
Speaker 2: in Douglas County, and.
Speaker 5: It's so great to have a fighter.
Speaker 2: It's great to have a fighter compared to all the
Speaker 2: stuff that's going on in California. And we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about the sanctuary state issue. We're going to talk
Speaker 2: about what's happening in Jefferson County, and we're really just
Speaker 2: going to break down how do we change what's happening
Speaker 2: as parents, as Republicans, as unaffiliateds who might be open
Speaker 2: to voting differently. What will we do differently if we
Speaker 2: govern to stop this stuff from happening.
Speaker 5: Now you're hearing it from the White House.
Speaker 2: You're hearing no more boys playing in girls' sports, no
Speaker 2: more DEI, no more of this stuff happening in our schools,
Speaker 2: or you're going to lose funding. Like that's what needs
Speaker 2: to happen from the top. We're going to talk about
Speaker 2: what needs to happen here in Colorado and from the
Speaker 2: ground up.
Speaker 5: So this is.
Speaker 2: Heidigan All filling in for Dan Kaplis. We'll be back
Speaker 2: right after the break with George Brockler.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Dan Capless Show podcast.
Speaker 5: Hello, Happy Monday.
Speaker 2: It's Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis, and I'm
Speaker 2: very excited to have a friend and my district attorney,
Speaker 2: George Brockler, on the line. Hello George, Happy Monday.
Speaker 7: Happy Monday. It was great seeing you and Jason over
Speaker 7: the weekend.
Speaker 5: That was fun.
Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit about the OPR retree
Speaker 2: and nuke Ginrick.
Speaker 5: Saying make America honest again. I love that.
Speaker 7: I think some of the funniest stuff came out of
Speaker 7: a speaker nude, especially when he said, a look the
Speaker 7: difference between conservatives and the liberals that they view The
Speaker 7: Lion King as a documentary, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: Like he says, lions eat gazelle's and they say no, no,
Speaker 7: no no. They sing and dance together.
Speaker 5: They get along great. That was hilarious. That was That
Speaker 5: was a crazy weekend.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love that weekend because it's like six
Speaker 2: hundred patriots in one place and we haven't seen each other,
Speaker 2: most of us, in like a year, and everybody stays
Speaker 2: I mean stays up pretty much all night, like till
Speaker 2: three or four in the morning, hanging out talking.
Speaker 5: And then you get up and you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: I forgot how old I am. Oh that was.
Speaker 7: That was. That's right, still recovering.
Speaker 5: So George Colorado was not recovering yet.
Speaker 2: And I love what you've been saying about what's happening
Speaker 2: with this push that I mean, Paulus is basically saying
Speaker 2: we're not a sanctuary state, and you're saying, oh, yes
Speaker 2: we are, So tell us what the distinction is there?
Speaker 7: Yeah, in fact, there was a westward article of all places.
Speaker 7: I'll sit down with anybody to do an interview and
Speaker 7: Westwood came out to interview me on this, and I
Speaker 7: told them the same thing, like, it doesn't matter what
Speaker 7: the governor or mayor Johnston say. They could call it
Speaker 7: happy fun town. What really matters is the policy and
Speaker 7: the different approaches that they take to this. And when
Speaker 7: we have changed our laws multiple times to make it
Speaker 7: less painful for illegal immigrants to commit crimes in the
Speaker 7: jurisdiction and to avoid facing deportation for the commission of
Speaker 7: those crimes, and they've done it, and to keep probation
Speaker 7: from reporting the fact that they have convicted criminal illegal
Speaker 7: aliens that they're supervising here even though America says you
Speaker 7: shouldn't be here. They can't communicate that with ice. You
Speaker 7: have a sanctuary state. But oh, by the way, then
Speaker 7: they add on the other things, like well, let's make
Speaker 7: illegal immigrants eligible for housing assistance and to get licensure
Speaker 7: in things like hairdressing and other things that are licensed
Speaker 7: so they can compete with citizens and people who are
Speaker 7: legal residents. You've created an environment that is not just
Speaker 7: welcoming but invited. It begs legal immigrants to come here
Speaker 7: and set up shop. And that's what we've seen over
Speaker 7: the past. I don't know five ten years now.
Speaker 2: So what do you do differently, like now that you're
Speaker 2: in office, what do you tactically do every day to
Speaker 2: beat back against this and what can't you fix or do?
Speaker 7: Yeah, some of the limitations are on the lack of
Speaker 7: knowledge that we have about all the people that are
Speaker 7: in our jails and the people that are in our system.
Speaker 7: What the public should end is full transparency, and the
Speaker 7: legislature has really operated from an ignorance's bliss approach to this,
Speaker 7: which is, hey, if we don't allow law enforcement to
Speaker 7: collect this information or to coordinate information with ice, then
Speaker 7: nobody can ever run study that says, hey, twenty five
Speaker 7: to thirty five percent of all the crime and the
Speaker 7: jurisdiction are in the state is committed by people who
Speaker 7: are here illegally. Now I made that number up, but
Speaker 7: I'd have to because we can't know the number right.
Speaker 7: So part of the problem is we're in an information
Speaker 7: deficit and maybe an information desert. And so for us,
Speaker 7: approach is where we know that someone will be negatively
Speaker 7: impacted by the results of their criminal conduct, I take
Speaker 7: no affirmative stats to lessen that impact. So there are
Speaker 7: some jurisdictions historically, and even now that we'll try to
Speaker 7: do something called an immigration friendly plea, I do no
Speaker 7: such thing. You are going to get the same plea bargain.
Speaker 7: Whether you're here legally, illegally, citizen, non citizen, legal resident,
Speaker 7: doesn't matter. You come here and break the law. Your
Speaker 7: expectation should be you're treated the same by the law.
Speaker 5: That's good. That's good.
Speaker 2: So is Paul's changing his tune on like in the
Speaker 2: tactics of what he's doing and allowing his staff and
Speaker 2: bureaucracy to do. Or is everything staying the same. His
Speaker 2: rhetoric's just changing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's changed his rhetoric. And if you listen, he's
Speaker 7: a smart guy, I mean the governor. For people that
Speaker 7: want to dismiss him, they're making a mistake because he's
Speaker 7: politically pragmatic in a way that you don't see from
Speaker 7: Phil Wiser. Like Phil Wiser is not just human shock
Speaker 7: in terms of delivery of the message, but he does
Speaker 7: not have the nuanced appreciation for these things. The way
Speaker 7: Governor polls and his team do it just makes them very,
Speaker 7: very different, even though they're both successful in elections. The
Speaker 7: governor has changed his tun if you listen to what
Speaker 7: he talks about. He's like, we're not a sanctuary state
Speaker 7: because we cooperate with ICE for violent felons and violent criminals.
Speaker 7: That part might be true, but it's limited to just
Speaker 7: the violent ones.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 7: It doesn't encompass things like your retail theft rings or
Speaker 7: your other property crime committers, your burglars, whether it's a
Speaker 7: businesses or residences. The chronic drunk drivers that we have
Speaker 7: who have had two or three bites at the apple,
Speaker 7: even though they shouldn't be here to begin with those
Speaker 7: parts we don't have the same level of cooperation and
Speaker 7: coordination with. But where people should feel really encouraged is
Speaker 7: that you had a willing participant in that ignorance piece
Speaker 7: under the Biden administration for ICE. And if anybody has
Speaker 7: listened to a single word out of Tom Holman's mouth,
Speaker 7: President Trump got elected, those days be over. And now
Speaker 7: you have an ICE that at least appears to be
Speaker 7: interested in trying to deport the people that are visiting
Speaker 7: crime on our communities.
Speaker 2: And how big of a problem is this in Colorado?
Speaker 2: I mean, when I was running, I heard a lot
Speaker 2: about the I twenty five corridor and the federal trafficking,
Speaker 2: the human trafficking. Is it as big of a problem
Speaker 2: as it appeared to be, then.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Listen, Colorado is unique when it comes to
Speaker 7: human trafficking because what you have found statistically is that
Speaker 7: human trafficking is biggest in places that have major highways
Speaker 7: federal highways that run through them, and also associated with
Speaker 7: cities that have major sports teams. Well, I twenty five
Speaker 7: and I seventy converge right there in Denver with the
Speaker 7: Broncos and the Abs, and arguably the Rockies are major League.
Speaker 7: I'm kidding. I love the Rockies, just want them to
Speaker 7: be better and.
Speaker 3: All this other stuff. So we do.
Speaker 7: We have historically human trafficking issues, and there is a
Speaker 7: role that the cartels in illegal groups play in those
Speaker 7: as well. And it's not just women, and it's not
Speaker 7: just folks south of the border. This takes place from
Speaker 7: people from all over the world. They get brought here
Speaker 7: under false pretenses and then they're either their visas or
Speaker 7: if they have a passport, their passports or whatever withheld
Speaker 7: from them so that they end up in servitude to
Speaker 7: the people that are kind of controlling them and using
Speaker 7: them for these largely sexual purposes.
Speaker 2: All right, So talking about human trafficking, let's talk about
Speaker 2: what happened at Columine High School with the student who
Speaker 2: was I would call it trafficked to go live with
Speaker 2: her predator, who was a teacher. Like, what the heck
Speaker 2: is going on in Jefferson County.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I grew up in Jeffcoe. I'm a
Speaker 7: Lakewood kid. I went to Belmar Elementary, Carmody Junior High,
Speaker 7: Bear Creek High School. I mean, I still have family
Speaker 7: that lives in Jeffcoe. I don't know what's going on there,
Speaker 7: but for one of the largest school districts in the state,
Speaker 7: they have some explaining to do here. Now, again, I'm
Speaker 7: not privy to what has taken place in terms of
Speaker 7: any investigation. I don't know any more than you guys
Speaker 7: do from reading this. But as a guy who's got
Speaker 7: a prosecutor's mind in a father's heart, I have significant
Speaker 7: concerns with what has not taken place. So when I'm
Speaker 7: told by the media that there are forms, federal forms
Speaker 7: that are filled out by administrators that advance aknown lie
Speaker 7: about the homelessness of this kid, that to me seems
Speaker 7: like a fraudulent or even forged document. There has to
Speaker 7: be some federal law that creates a penalty for that,
Speaker 7: and for anyone that's ever filled out a federal form
Speaker 7: you know, at the bottom in teeny tiny language it says,
Speaker 7: I swear that these things are true under penalty of
Speaker 7: perjury and all this other stuff. Someone's got to look
Speaker 7: into that. I don't know if someone has already and
Speaker 7: has said, hey, we don't think we have enough here,
Speaker 7: but we're going to get a new US attorney in
Speaker 7: the state of Colorado over the next six to twelve months,
Speaker 7: and that's going to be a Trump appointed US attorney.
Speaker 7: They have the ability to look into this stuff. The
Speaker 7: other things are, how can the school district get away
Speaker 7: with an oops, I'm sorry approach to this? I put
Speaker 7: out an apology like, well, what the mistakes were made
Speaker 7: and things should have had It's like, dudes and dodets
Speaker 7: should be let go from education. I don't care if
Speaker 7: they were the Jesus of public education up to that moment.
Speaker 7: You participate in this charade. You are Dunnsville.
Speaker 5: It is over.
Speaker 7: I don't know why that hasn't happened.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, district's attorney Brockler and I'm glad you're
Speaker 2: my district attorney in Douglas County. I love jeffco too,
Speaker 2: but man, I just every day it's a new story
Speaker 2: over there and parents really need to wake up and
Speaker 2: understand what's going on. Thanks George for all you do,
Speaker 2: and I'm excited to see you make a big splash
Speaker 2: fighting back against this stuff. I know you will, and
Speaker 2: would love to chat with you more on air soon.
Speaker 4: Happy to do that.
Speaker 7: One quick thing. We have three pending cases against educators
Speaker 7: in this jurisdiction. Oh wow, presumed innocent and I don't
Speaker 7: want to get into the details, but we've got three.
Speaker 7: How is it that some people can show up to
Speaker 7: a school and see kids that want to learn and
Speaker 7: others see a romantic opportunity. Oh don't get it.
Speaker 5: That is just horrible, horrible.
Speaker 2: It's disgusting, and thank you for taking a stern approach
Speaker 2: to that. And I hope that justice prevails whichever way
Speaker 2: it goes.
Speaker 5: But I'm glad you're doing that.
Speaker 7: Thanks. Thanks Ryan.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, this is Heidi Ganal filling in for
Speaker 2: Dan Kaplis. That was District Attorney George Brockler talking about
Speaker 2: crime and what's happening in our schools in Colorado, which
Speaker 2: is pretty disturbing. And we will be back after this
Speaker 2: break to talk more.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Capliss Show podcast.
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Speaker 2: a really happy zone.
Speaker 4: Like good day zone for those of you driving home
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Speaker 5: Gosh, that's sad. Well, Onto, as I opened last time, more.
Speaker 2: Said Stoff talking about the Colorado Republican Party state.
Speaker 5: And I love my Republicans. I love my party. It's
Speaker 5: like family to me.
Speaker 3: And who are you most brutally honest with?
Speaker 5: Exactly?
Speaker 2: There you go, because I want things to get better, same,
Speaker 2: I know, Ryan.
Speaker 5: So we've got to talk about this opt out thing.
Speaker 2: It is so confusing and it's what is riling up
Speaker 2: the whole Republican Party right now. And if you're not
Speaker 2: into like deep dive, you know, Republican party stuff, just
Speaker 2: kind of stick with us for a few minutes, and
Speaker 2: I would love feedback. If you are into this stuff,
Speaker 2: you can call us at three zho three seven one
Speaker 2: three eight two five five, or you can text five
Speaker 2: seven seven three nine to Dan and I will get
Speaker 2: that text message and I'll address your questions or comments.
Speaker 5: But there's two things going on here.
Speaker 3: A lot of.
Speaker 2: People are saying, oh, I'm going to vote, I'm going
Speaker 2: to I want so and so to be chair of
Speaker 2: the GOP in Colorado because I want unaffiliateds to not
Speaker 2: be able to vote in Republican primaries. And then there's
Speaker 2: other people who are like, no, no, no, we need
Speaker 2: to bring more people in.
Speaker 5: You heard me.
Speaker 2: Talk about those numbers if you were listening in the
Speaker 2: first segment, where we have one point eight million unaffiliated voters,
Speaker 2: and of those voters, sixty percent typically vote Democrat in
Speaker 2: Colorado in the last few elections and forty percent vote Republican.
Speaker 2: So we need all those ones that typically vote Republican,
Speaker 2: and we need to bring over a few hundred thousand
Speaker 2: from the ones that typically vote Democrat. So if we
Speaker 2: do away with the primary, which is what the vote
Speaker 2: is actually on, if we do a vote on what
Speaker 2: they can vote on the central Committee, Sorry, stick with me,
Speaker 2: this is really complicated. So if these folks get elected
Speaker 2: and they have a vote, they could even do it
Speaker 2: now before before the chair race technically, but it will
Speaker 2: probably be after a new chair is elected, they'll vote
Speaker 2: and they'll say we want to get out of the
Speaker 2: primary completely. They have to have seventy five percent of
Speaker 2: the Central Committee, which is about I think it's about
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty people, and I am a bonus member.
Speaker 5: I'm on that committee now for Douglas County.
Speaker 2: So seventy five percent of those folks have to vote
Speaker 2: to opt out of a primary. And what that means
Speaker 2: is there will be no primary as we know it.
Speaker 5: It will strictly.
Speaker 2: Go through a caucus or assembly process, and it's not
Speaker 2: like it is now. So what will happen is one
Speaker 2: candidate will have to come out of that assembly. So
Speaker 2: that's typically if you get thirty percent, you get on
Speaker 2: the ballot, and there's usually a couple of people in
Speaker 2: the primary and it's raucous, and then all the Republicans
Speaker 2: and unaffiliates who pick a Republican ballot gets to vote,
Speaker 2: and then you get your candidate that goes on the
Speaker 2: general election to go up against the Democrats. Well this
Speaker 2: in this case, you won't be able to petition on
Speaker 2: like some candidates do, and there won't be multiple people
Speaker 2: coming out of assembly. It'll be one person, one person.
Speaker 2: And so there's a couple problems with this.
Speaker 5: One is you you will not.
Speaker 2: Get a primary ballot if you are a Republican in
Speaker 2: this state. So the only way you'll be able to
Speaker 2: be involved in picking our primary candidate is to get
Speaker 2: a seat at that assembly, and they have not determined
Speaker 2: what the rules are for that. We've got, you know,
Speaker 2: nine hundred thousand Republican voters registered Republicans in this state.
Speaker 2: How are they going to hear the most people possible
Speaker 2: because usually that assembly is about three or four thousand people.
Speaker 2: So that's the first problem. If you're a registered Republican
Speaker 2: and you're not part of the assembly process, you will
Speaker 2: not have a say in who the primary goes to.
Speaker 2: The other thing is the unaffiliated voters will still get
Speaker 2: a Democrat primary ballot. They will still get when now
Speaker 2: right now, they get both, they get a Democrat and
Speaker 2: a Republican ballot in the mail and they have to
Speaker 2: pick one.
Speaker 5: They cannot turn both.
Speaker 2: In, and so they will still get the Democrat ballot,
Speaker 2: but they won't get a Republican ballot anymore. So they'll
Speaker 2: just get one ballot and they'll think, oh, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: going to vote for this person and the likelihood that
Speaker 2: they vote again for that person in the general election.
Speaker 2: Psychologically it's pretty strong like they're probably gonna do that.
Speaker 2: And so I think we're shooting ourselves in the foot
Speaker 2: if we literally opt out of having a primary as
Speaker 2: we know it now.
Speaker 5: Now, Do I.
Speaker 2: Agree that Republicans should be able to pick their primary
Speaker 2: candidate and Democrats should be able to pick their primary candidate,
Speaker 2: and unaffiliated.
Speaker 5: Should pick a side. Yeah, I tend to go towards that.
Speaker 5: And there's a.
Speaker 2: Lawsuit going through the system right now that was filed
Speaker 2: with I believe Kevin Lamberg is the head of that lawsuit,
Speaker 2: and it's with the GOP because they tried it before
Speaker 2: without the GOP and they wouldn't let the judge wouldn't
Speaker 2: let that go. So it's going through the courts right now.
Speaker 2: It's called the Claremont Institute lawsuit. And if you are
Speaker 2: interested in not doing the whole opt out like they're
Speaker 2: talking about now, where we don't have a primary pretty
Speaker 2: much we have a primary or not as it stands now,
Speaker 2: then and you still don't want unaffiliates to be able
Speaker 2: to vote in the Republican primary, then you need to
Speaker 2: support that lawsuit, and you can donate to the Claarmont
Speaker 2: Institute and help them. It's going to be a while
Speaker 2: before that gets decided. I think they're in disclosure or
Speaker 2: they're doing all the research right now in the case.
Speaker 2: So that's your option. You can support that lawsuit and
Speaker 2: see where the courts fall out and say they would
Speaker 2: say the whole thing was constitutional. So my understanding is
Speaker 2: the Democrats and Republicans would fall under that, like the
Speaker 2: whole ballot initiative that we voted on was unconstitutional.
Speaker 5: So I know that was super complicated.
Speaker 2: If you have questions or want to call in after
Speaker 2: the break, please do and I'll take the call and
Speaker 2: we'll chat about it. This is Heidigan All filling in
Speaker 2: for Dan Caplis. We'll see after the break.