WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:17.800 Hello, audience, I'm here with UFO Jack Jack. How you 2 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:19.399 doing pretty good? 3 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:19.760 Martin? 4 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:22.280 How are we doing good? Good? So thank you all 5 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:26.120 for joining us. Let's see we got some people in chat, 6 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:29.440 and thank you all for being here. And tonight we're 7 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:32.200 gonna be talking about well, it seems like everyone is 8 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:36.119 talking about what Obama said the other day, and I 9 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:38.240 thought we could make it interesting and just see how 10 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:43.320 long this goes. And so I thought it was you know, 11 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:46.679 I thought there's been such a huge reaction to this, 12 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:50.799 you know, and he you know, he was obviously joking, 13 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.560 but there's a lot more to it than just that. 14 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:56.840 So what was your take when you first saw it? 15 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:59.200 I mean, I think I've probably got like twenty or 16 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.000 thirty emails and texts, you know right away. 17 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:06.159 Yeah, I'm included in that. 18 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:09.359 Right, don't ever apologize for that. No, I like, I 19 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:13.040 like to have information when it's seen out there for sure. 20 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:17.239 The I'll be honest Martin, and feel free to laugh. 21 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:21.079 I definitely when I saw I didn't see the interview. 22 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:24.719 I just saw the clip and I ate it up, 23 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:26.680 like I thought it was real. I thought he like 24 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.319 casually kind of just like let it slip, like, oh, yeah, like, 25 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:33.680 no big deal. I didn't when you see just the clip. 26 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:35.799 I mean, I don't pretend to be the smartest knife 27 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.959 in the drawer, but like are the sharpest knife in 28 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.599 the drawer. See there you go, like I thought he was. 29 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:44.760 I didn't. I couldn't tell the sarcasm in the clip. 30 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:49.239 Obviously when you watch the clip and the statement that 31 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.200 he came out on Instagram saying, you know that he 32 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:55.599 was just joking in spirit of the lightning ground or 33 00:01:55.640 --> 00:02:00.319 whatever the excuse was. But initially, Martin, I totally was 34 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:03.319 bought in, totally thought it was real for like all 35 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:06.200 of maybe you know, a few minutes there, but before 36 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:09.199 I started like researching it further. Obviously it was a joke. 37 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:12.039 But man, it felt good to see that clip. I 38 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:14.719 was like, what totally caught me by surprise, just the 39 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:16.879 way it was presented so casually, don't you. 40 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:22.039 Think, Yeah, you know he's he was always such a 41 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:24.639 smooth talker, you know what I mean, And he did 42 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:28.000 like to joke a lot. You know, great speech, great 43 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.240 speeches and all that. You can't I could never say 44 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:33.199 that against it. And I'm just gonna say a little 45 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:38.360 disclaimer here because uh, Jack, Jack is gone, not sure 46 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:41.360 what happened. I'm sure he'll be back in just a minute, 47 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:44.639 but that I try to stay apolitical in the show 48 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:46.479 because you know, there can be a lot of friction. 49 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:49.159 And let me just see if I can see what 50 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:55.400 happened to Jack. Anyway, So I really don't like to 51 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.960 go down that line of you know, but I will 52 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:04.400 talk about something when here's Jack. He's back, Jack, I 53 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:06.039 think you're back to be having trouble with your internet 54 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:06.560 or something. 55 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.240 Nope, sorry about that. I clicked the wrong button. 56 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:13.639 Oh okay, So I was just saying that I try 57 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:17.639 to stay a political but you know, this does involve 58 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:20.000 politics today. I'm not going to say one side or 59 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:23.280 the other. I like people guessing where I stand. I 60 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.439 don't even care. I don't even watch the news anymore 61 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:29.639 or anything like that. But anyway, I did hear this 62 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:31.599 and I looked a little bit into it, and you know, 63 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:35.439 Trump waded in today, which was well, I'm not even 64 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:37.479 going to say my opinion about that. I just have 65 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:40.000 to be careful on that. But I think one things 66 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:44.159 I'd like to talk about today is my friend Ben Hanson. 67 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:48.719 He's in Factor Fake UFO Witness. I think that's what 68 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:52.159 he's involved in these days, very busy in Hollywood, and 69 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:57.120 he's former FBI. He's done a lot of analysis of 70 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:59.919 different presidents over the year that has been have been 71 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.919 asked this question, and he does frame by frame. I 72 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:06.000 remember when the first time I had met up with him, 73 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:09.719 and the first time when he went through the Jimmy 74 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:12.840 Kimmel and President Obama. I can't remember the first time 75 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.080 he was asset, but I think I want to say 76 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:20.000 it was twenty fifteen or earlier maybe, And he said 77 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:25.279 that he spent over twenty five hours on just a 78 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:30.920 small clip, frame by frame, analyzing the different things respiration, 79 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:34.480 beating of the heart and that you could see on 80 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:37.720 Obama's neck and stuff like that, and just you know, 81 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:41.720 some of that will bring up today. But he's not 82 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:44.399 a specialist. He says that right up front, matter of fact, 83 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:46.439 I think I can play. I think I can play 84 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:48.720 a clip. I'm going to give this a try and 85 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:53.079 see what happens. We have some clips too, but this 86 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:57.399 actually is going to be this is going to be 87 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.480 directly from YouTube, So rush your fingers and we'll see 88 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:05.000 what happens. Okay, here we am. 89 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:09.600 And personal individual. I'm also not considered an expert in 90 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:12.079 the field of non verbal language. With my background and 91 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.279 criminal investigations, you could say that I'm just a guy 92 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:18.839 with lots of experience conducting thousands of forensic interviews, and 93 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:22.240 I'm summarizing the theories of researchers and the real experts. 94 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.720 All right, So first, I'd like to thank Jimmy Kimmel 95 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:29.040 for bringing up the UFO alien topic to both Clinton 96 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.360 and Obama. It seems apparent that he has a personal 97 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:36.360 interest in the subject, and his interviews have been very enlightening. Now, 98 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:39.360 on the day of the Obama interview, the Los Angeles 99 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:41.759 Times actually ran a story about Kimmel and whether he 100 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:44.800 would ask Obama about aliens like he did Bill Clinton. 101 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:48.519 The story provides readers a link to my video analysis 102 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:52.120 on the former president. It's likely that Kimmel's production team 103 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:55.560 picked up on the story and watched the Clinton analysis, 104 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:58.920 because Jimmy actually makes reference to my video during his 105 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:00.639 interview with Obama. 106 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:02.279 Now, you know, there are a lot of people that 107 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:07.680 are going to examine your facial expressions here, every twitch everything, 108 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:09.879 and say, and of course, so did you look did 109 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.040 you see did you yes? 110 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.040 Jimmy, You're right, I am going to examine the facial 111 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:19.439 expressions and every twitch. Would you expect anything less, So 112 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:22.000 let's get started. Our first challenge is that we have 113 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.160 a lot less to work with as far as material 114 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:27.399 specifically addressing the UFO topic when compared to the Bill 115 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:31.120 Clinton interview. The segment where Jimmy asks Obama about UFOs 116 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:33.959 is less than a minute long, but Clinton conversed for 117 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:36.839 nearly three minutes on the subject. The good news is 118 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:40.480 the total interview with President Obama is over thirty minutes, 119 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.120 so we can draw a good baseline reading from the 120 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:46.519 extra content. Let's start from the beginning of the UFO segment. 121 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:49.800 You're going to see President Obama sitting with his legs crossed, 122 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:52.560 much in the same manner that Bill Clinton was sitting, 123 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.160 but Clinton liked to grip the arms of the chair. 124 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.639 Obama places his hands in his lap, and what it 125 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:01.720 looks like the same upholstery as from the Clinton interview. 126 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:05.120 Jimmy has done some remodeling because this is more of 127 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:07.199 a love seat, so he doesn't have the. 128 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:12.279 Well, I'm going to bring us back in because I 129 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:14.879 you know, we'll play more of that later, but you 130 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:18.079 kind of get the analysis now. Ben's Ben's a good 131 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:22.279 friend in California. He gave me permission to use whatever 132 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:24.920 I want of his clips, do whatever I want, so 133 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:27.920 we can play any of these. But I do have 134 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:30.560 to hesitate a little bit when I'm playing other clips 135 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.600 as far as copyright strikes and all that. But I 136 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:40.000 am going to play some clips tonight, and so isn't 137 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.000 it interesting. I actually took a body language course for 138 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:45.920 a while and I just thought it was really you know, 139 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:48.160 because I thought it would help out in the UFO world. 140 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:51.160 And it was actually taught by some people that were 141 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:55.680 looking at They got interested in the UFO topic because 142 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.680 first of all, they did a show on Bob Bazaar, 143 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:02.319 which was very interesting and I suggest anyone that is 144 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:06.600 interested in whether Bob Lazare is you know, authentic or 145 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:09.439 not to check that out the body language. And then 146 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:15.720 they also did one on the Berkshire's UFO and all 147 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:20.120 those people in that, specifically Jane, the older woman, and 148 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:23.199 they said that woman is telling the truth one hundred percent, 149 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:27.920 no no doubt about it. So they were interested in 150 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:29.800 the UFO. So I got to talking to them and 151 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.559 they I ended up taking courses from them. It's really 152 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.120 fascinating all the little subtle things you never think about, 153 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.600 you know. I was watching something today a woman talking 154 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:46.320 about LBJ and the Kennedy assassination, and when she said 155 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:48.679 something or eye moved just quickly off to the side, 156 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.159 just a little bit like that, real quick, And to me, 157 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:54.159 that's you know, that's a red flag. That's like the 158 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:57.919 some reason why she did that. But it's what Ben 159 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:00.919 says and when he's doing this analysis, is you have 160 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:02.919 to have a baseline. You have to really know what 161 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:05.399 the person is like in a normal talk. Maybe she 162 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:07.399 does that little twitch with her eye all the time. 163 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:09.159 I don't know, yep. 164 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:13.200 And then even if it is like anomalous, you know, 165 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.679 kind of body behavior compared to whatever their baseline is, 166 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:19.799 there's no way you're going to know what that what 167 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:23.320 they were thinking, what they were like. There's there's so 168 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:25.399 much you can deduce from it. I feel like it 169 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:27.639 can be kind of subjective in terms of what is 170 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:30.360 it actually telling you, Like, did they just have a 171 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.120 bad day that day when they were giving this important testimony. 172 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.440 I don't know, you know, did they have other things 173 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.480 on their mind? You have no idea what's going on in. 174 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:40.000 That's right, Yeah, it could be a lot yep, could 175 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:42.159 be a lot of different a lot of different things. 176 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:46.360 So we don't want anyone to say anything derogative. Please, 177 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:49.559 it's about any of the presidents or anything like that. 178 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:54.960 So just gonna keep on chat on chat. This is 179 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:58.840 about more about UFOs than anything else. 180 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:03.519 Yeah, flight safety, that's right. 181 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:09.080 Yeah, I think where did I hear? I just heard something? No, 182 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.559 you know Ryan Graves, and I just heard something about 183 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:14.799 him today, not him, but someone was using him as 184 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:17.519 an example, you know, the tic TAC and all that 185 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:22.799 and so, but you know what I mean. And then 186 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:25.679 if anyone has maybe watched my thing I did with Grock, 187 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:30.080 I actually asked Rock about Obama and UFOs will be 188 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:32.679 playing that clip a little later. But anyone that watched 189 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:37.799 my recent clip I just put out yesterday, Grock, which 190 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:41.240 is an AI tool through X, thinks that the Knimitz 191 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:44.159 case is the number one UFO case. I thought that 192 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.759 was pretty interesting. And because of the Navy pilots and 193 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.919 you know all that, and also you know later brings up. 194 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:56.840 I believe the Ryan Graves, you know all the times 195 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:02.279 that he claims that there are people spotting UFOs. However 196 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:04.600 that may have been. It's funny I'm prying all these 197 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:07.679 different AI cuts. I may have been a different AI Chadick. 198 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.759 There's a lot to remember on that one. Yes, So 199 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:13.879 I'd like to play a couple of clips. First of all, 200 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.840 before we move on. This is a clip that Ben 201 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.559 Hansen did for Bill Clinton a number of years ago, 202 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:25.759 when Jimmy Kimmel asked the same question of Bill. Just 203 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:27.240 a little quick clip right here. 204 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:30.360 That they might be able to support some form of life. 205 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:34.480 So it makes it increasingly less likely that we're alone. 206 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:36.320 Oh, you're trying to give me a hint that there 207 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:38.159 are alien I'm. 208 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:39.120 Trying to tell you, I don't know. 209 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.360 He actually nods his head yes in response to Kimmel's question, 210 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.159 you're trying to give me a hint that there are aliens? 211 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.480 Clinton immediately nods yes and then quickly says no, and 212 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:53.000 that Jock Clinching has returned To take home lesson is 213 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:55.679 that Clinton's body is not telling the same story as 214 00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:59.879 his speech. We're back to uncomfortable Bill kim will seem 215 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.799 Harms's question that was delivered as a joke because again 216 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:06.279 knocked the former president out of his comfort zone. 217 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:12.840 Very interesting, isn't it. Yeah, you can have it. Look 218 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:15.919 at the subtle things that tell a lot. 219 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:20.559 Absolutely, and what I don't remember the clip, but I 220 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:23.559 think it was George Bush where he was asked on 221 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:26.559 a night time on a night show years ago and 222 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:29.559 he got like it was awkward the way he I 223 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:31.879 don't know if he wasn't prepared for the question or what. 224 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:33.759 But have you seen that clip? 225 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:34.039 Martin? 226 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:34.480 Does that ring? 227 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:37.639 Oh? I don't believe. I do not believe I have 228 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:46.600 so yeah, I did want to say, oh, okay, So 229 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:50.919 this is what Mendy is thinking. She thinks Trump was 230 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:53.679 referring to the fact that Obama discussed Area fifty one, 231 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.639 which is a highly sensitive location. I mean you just 232 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:02.879 mentioned it. I mean that wouldn't be classified anyway. So 233 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:07.440 I do believe we have a way to take phone calls, 234 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:09.720 and I don't know if we want to dare to 235 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:11.200 try that this evening. 236 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:14.440 Could be risky. Marn Hey, it's your show. You can 237 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:17.240 always hang up if it gets well. 238 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:22.279 I will say this, if people are watching this show 239 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:26.039 and they have a hankering for calling in and discussing 240 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:29.960 this without getting political, yes, just type in the chat 241 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.279 down there that you may be interested in, and then 242 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:34.440 I'll just pull all the levers and do everything I'm 243 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:37.159 doing here to try to get try to get the 244 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.799 phone to work. But I did test it today. Seems 245 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:42.960 like it's going to work. Someone's saying hi to you, 246 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:48.120 cheers UFO Jack. And so yeah, we have some people. 247 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:51.960 We have someone from Australia and here Texas. I do 248 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:58.919 believe and thank you all for being in here. And 249 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:03.720 there is is one. I'm not going to post a statement, 250 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:07.919 but anyway, so what do you think about what a 251 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:15.000 president knows and is told and how much information they 252 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.639 actually walk out of the presidency with. 253 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.200 I mean, as a layman, obviously I would have no idea. 254 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:24.159 Let me just start off with that, but I can 255 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:27.759 certainly imagine and pontificate, and if I may, Martin, I 256 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:30.440 would say, just like how everybody else says, they're just 257 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:35.159 a temporary employee, and I think the real information is 258 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:39.440 kept elsewhere, and I think the machine is running with 259 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:44.759 something else pulling the levers. Sure, maybe the temporary employees 260 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:47.279 do pull some temporary levers, if you want to call 261 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:50.360 it that, within the giant machine that currently exists, but 262 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:53.919 I think it's a lot more. If anything my life 263 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:57.559 has shown me, Martin, it's that the truth is never 264 00:14:57.799 --> 00:14:59.480 is black and white. There's a lot of well I 265 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:02.559 shouldn't say that, but there's a lot of nuance with 266 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.039 a lot of different things in this world, and that 267 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:08.759 is certainly the case with the UFO topic. So I 268 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:11.639 could imagine it being a little bit complicated, a little 269 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:15.039 bit messy, some people knowing something, some people not knowing 270 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:18.559 all the things, some people knowing nothing at all, and 271 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:22.200 yet being on the same team or same area, same employment, 272 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:26.120 what have you. So that's kind of my take, obviously 273 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.440 a little bit of a non answer, but also I 274 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.799 feel like there's a lot of truth in that, especially 275 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:34.480 with the level of classification that I would imagine would 276 00:15:34.519 --> 00:15:38.960 be involved with something like that. But I think it's fascinating. Nonetheless, 277 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:40.559 how about yourself. 278 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:44.360 Yes, well, you know, it's awful. It's awful hard to 279 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:46.960 say what they are told and not told. When I 280 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.120 I was the first one, I know, I've said this 281 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:54.799 to the first one to interview, Christopher Mellan and way 282 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:57.879 back in twenty fifteen and I think it was that 283 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:02.039 or fourteen, and basic I asked him the question, you know, 284 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:05.799 because he would know what a president can know and 285 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:08.679 not know. And he says, if a president asks, he 286 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:12.960 has to be told what is known by he says, 287 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:17.519 but it can be compartmentalized. Now, about a year and 288 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:24.480 a half ago, when I was out in where were we, Donna, Texas? 289 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:27.000 I think it was where I was at. I was 290 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:30.480 the MC for the move On event out there, and 291 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:34.559 I got I got to meet a former f a 292 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:38.200 retired FBI agent and a retired CIA agent. They were 293 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:43.440 traveling together and attending the conference, and Donna scoped them 294 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:47.120 out and got them talking and sat down with him, 295 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:50.639 and I thought it was a real interesting take, especially 296 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:55.679 the FBI agent said, you know, the problem with nine 297 00:16:55.720 --> 00:17:00.200 to eleven was that everything is stovepiped, and so information 298 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:04.960 can't It's compartmentalized in a way, That's what you'd say, 299 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:09.000 and so one doesn't talk to the other. And they 300 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:11.079 said that they're trying to, you know, trying to correct that. 301 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:13.799 So there's never you know, the same repeat of that. 302 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:19.240 But so I really think, I personally think that the 303 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:23.480 people that would have to answer to a president may 304 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:25.359 not get all the information. 305 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:28.759 Yep, for sure, I can see that happening. 306 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:29.440 Yep. 307 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:34.160 Yeah, So I think it's time we should we should 308 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:38.640 play another clip here. This is an earlier of Obama. 309 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:43.000 I'm not sure exactly what you're This is a little 310 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:49.440 a little girl on the I can't remember too generous show, 311 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:52.720 and she is a very bright young girl. And as 312 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:55.960 a question for Obama, it's pretty cute here it. 313 00:17:55.880 --> 00:18:02.799 Goes talking to a small child. As we watch this 314 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:05.279 again this time, look for how Obama's answer is more 315 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:08.039 serious in tone on the alien question, book ended by 316 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:11.000 two joke statements. If this feels a little deja vu, 317 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:13.160 it's because he did many of the same things he 318 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.920 did in the Jimmy Kimmel interview. We'll see a joke 319 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:18.759 statement when he answers the question about the Book of Secrets. 320 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.559 Then Macy asks the question are aliens real? Instead of 321 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:25.759 answering her, he deflects and redirects the question back to 322 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:28.799 her and asks what do you think? Then we'll hear 323 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:31.799 him make another joke about the Book of Secrets. Finally 324 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:35.440 he'll answer Macy with some stuttering, delays, and every indication 325 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:39.160 that the answer was precisely worded but not directly answered. 326 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:41.839 So you have questions for the president, this is a 327 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:43.680 big moment. You can whatever you want to ask. What's 328 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:44.480 your first question? 329 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.200 So is there really a book of secrets. 330 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:48.880 That's a secret. 331 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:53.960 Yeah, yeah, like what kind of secrets would you want 332 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:55.440 to know? Would what would be in the book of 333 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:57.160 secrets if abyans are real? 334 00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:59.319 Ah? 335 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:00.839 Well do you think? 336 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:05.200 Well, after watching this TV show, I think aliens are 337 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:09.079 probably real lately. Okay, Well, which TV show is that? 338 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:12.720 I think it's called like America's Book of Secrets. 339 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.119 There you go. 340 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:20.119 Well, it seems like somebody's spilled the secrets already. 341 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:21.599 I thought that was classified. 342 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:24.000 Yeah, there's a TV show. 343 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:28.519 Yeah, well that The truth is Macy, we we haven't 344 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:33.920 actually made direct contact with aliens yet, but when we do, 345 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:34.680 I'll let you know. 346 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:40.799 Yeah, okay, question are aliens real? Answer? The truth is, Macy, 347 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:44.240 we haven't actually made direct contact with aliens yet, but 348 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:47.279 when we do, I'll let you know. It's close. But 349 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:50.480 that's not an exact response to Macy's question. All of 350 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:52.920 this is followed by a hard swallow before they move 351 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:55.119 on to the rest of the interview. So even when 352 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:58.359 participating in a semi rigid interview format, we can see 353 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:01.359 that Obama treats the alien top different than he has 354 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:04.160 in the past. While he jokes leading up to the question, 355 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:07.680 there's a serious nature about his demeanor when he finally answers, 356 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:10.480 it's a real shift in how he handles a subject 357 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:13.440 now when compared to just a few years ago. Furthermore, 358 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:16.480 we now have another instance of a contradictory statement from 359 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:19.559 what he's previously said on the subject in review, take 360 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:22.000 a look at this evolution from a joking to a 361 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:25.839 serious attitude and why there's also in congruence. If you remember, 362 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:28.240 when he was running for president, he made jokes about 363 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:32.880 extraterrestrials when debating Senator Kucinich. Very understandable because it's not 364 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.599 reasonable that he was in a position to know anything significant. 365 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:36.759 At the time. 366 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:39.880 Then, once he became president, his White House staff released 367 00:20:39.880 --> 00:20:43.119 an official statement in twenty eleven in response to an 368 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:46.720 online petition for disclosure. In that statement, the White House 369 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:49.480 denied that the US government has hidden knowledge or evidence 370 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:53.559 of an extraterrestrial presence. In twenty twelve, he joked about 371 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:56.480 aliens and Roswell and how he could reveal the secrets, 372 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:58.920 but he'd have to kill you. Then on Jimmy Kimmel 373 00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:02.240 in twenty fifteen, he joked about aliens who won't let 374 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:05.039 their secrets out. But then, when press for an answer 375 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:08.079 as to whether he looked into UFO files for the 376 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:12.440 first time in public, he suddenly became gravely serious and said. 377 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:14.680 Exploit, I can't reveal anything. 378 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:18.440 Oh really, no president has ever said that about the 379 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:22.039 UFO subject. Well, folks, if this is true that he 380 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:26.160 can't reveal anything, why would he deliberately say this? 381 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:28.799 Yeah, well that the truth is. 382 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:29.319 May say we. 383 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:34.240 Haven't actually made direct contact with aliens yet. 384 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.400 The truth is, we haven't actually made direct contact with 385 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:41.079 aliens yet. Is that not an act of revealing information? 386 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:44.400 Less than a year after he can't reveal anything, and 387 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:48.079 now he's revealing that we haven't made direct contact yet. Guys, 388 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:50.359 words do mean something. 389 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:57.599 Well, oh, I thought that was interesting. I wanted to 390 00:21:57.640 --> 00:21:58.079 include that. 391 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:00.720 Yeah, it's a good one. 392 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:05.200 Yeah. That girl was cute, so funny. She wanted to 393 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:08.920 know the aliens right away, and I think I did 394 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:14.440 hear that. I'm trying to think who the actor was. Yeah, 395 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:18.720 it was his son, and it was had to do 396 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:22.160 with I can't remember it was, but he came in 397 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:25.359 the very first question. He asked, okay, alien's real or 398 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:29.839 what and that that one didn't get recorded. It was 399 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:33.279 just you know, written up or something. That anyway, that 400 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:38.680 was great. I would like to see if anyone has 401 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:42.079