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Speaker 7: Hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: You are more than welcome. It's great to have you today,
Speaker 3: and you're calling from Detroit, Michigan. I am now Julianne.
Speaker 3: You have experiences to share with our listeners. Would you
Speaker 3: like to start at the beginning? Please? Ah?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 8: So my story and experience with aliens is very much
Speaker 8: so spiritual related, and I do find it interesting listening
Speaker 8: and hearing people who don't have a spiritual tie because
Speaker 8: it's so spiritual spiritually tied.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 8: It started when I had a spiritual awakening starting with
Speaker 8: the pandemic and realizing toxic patterns and within my relationship
Speaker 8: and myself and wanting to start a journey of healing.
Speaker 8: And I lost my dog, and I think it was
Speaker 8: just one of these traumatic experiences that is kind of
Speaker 8: a catalyst for healing and change and wanting to reconnect
Speaker 8: back in with yourself. So I found myself a therapist
Speaker 8: and began my healing journey. And once I got to
Speaker 8: a certain point of working on myself and my needs
Speaker 8: and face my demons, I finally started to trust the
Speaker 8: universe and had a lot less anxiety and depression. So
Speaker 8: at some point, once I was in this place of trust,
Speaker 8: I started seeing synchronicities. I'm a musician, and I would
Speaker 8: go to the grocery store, and you know, I decided,
Speaker 8: you know, this is part of my life. I need
Speaker 8: to do this, and so I would go to the
Speaker 8: grocery store and the guy helping me was a producer
Speaker 8: and like gave me his card, just like all these
Speaker 8: little things where these little random synchronicities of people I
Speaker 8: meet happened to be interested in the same thing as me.
Speaker 8: And he was releasing his single that day and it
Speaker 8: was a strawberry full moon, and of course I was
Speaker 8: starting down this path of spirituality and the universe and
Speaker 8: love the moon. So it was just all these little
Speaker 8: synchronicities that truly in the moment do not feel little.
Speaker 8: It's very much so it feels like a very direct
Speaker 8: communication or signal or sign So following these synchronicities, my
Speaker 8: therapist asked me if I would want to participate in
Speaker 8: a QHHT session, which is a quantum hypnosis healing therapy,
Speaker 8: which I did not know that she offered, but I
Speaker 8: was all on board, and you know, she saw that
Speaker 8: I was in a place to be able to have
Speaker 8: this session of wanting to heal and trusting what information
Speaker 8: would come to me. So she leads this session, kind
Speaker 8: of guiding you through getting into this hypnotic state, and
Speaker 8: at some point she has you turn and you're going
Speaker 8: to see a person, a being, you know. I going
Speaker 8: into it was kind of anticipating seeing one of like
Speaker 8: my past, my grandfathers who have passed away. And when
Speaker 8: I turned around, I saw and again I'm turning around
Speaker 8: in my mind, in my mind's eye, under hypnosis, not literally,
Speaker 8: but once I turned around, I saw this mantis being,
Speaker 8: and mantis the word just came to my head. I
Speaker 8: hadn't heard of this before. I hadn't heard stories of
Speaker 8: I've always been a lover of different things, magical things,
Speaker 8: hoping of more than just what's here on this earth,
Speaker 8: but I hadn't heard of manted beings.
Speaker 7: Just like a classic.
Speaker 8: Little gray alien or little green alien depiction was all
Speaker 8: I knew. So this being was brown skinned, and it
Speaker 8: was around nine feet tall, and it had a tall collar,
Speaker 8: and it spoke to me through telepathy and it was
Speaker 8: what I felt the most, and I will get emotional
Speaker 8: to this day thinking about it. Was this intense feeling
Speaker 8: of love and being so proud of me for being
Speaker 8: where I was at in life and just being so
Speaker 8: like it was this feeling of unconditional love that I've
Speaker 8: never felt on the human plane.
Speaker 7: It was fully supportive of me.
Speaker 8: And again it's not even like I was getting this,
Speaker 8: it's just a feeling that it was giving me just
Speaker 8: like so unconditional love, exactly what people talk about God
Speaker 8: being like. And it was just communicating to me kind
Speaker 8: of you know, you go into it kind of looking
Speaker 8: for answers, and the experience I had was kind of
Speaker 8: that it was telling me I already knew what I
Speaker 8: needed to do and to stay grounded and yeah, so
Speaker 8: it was a pretty intense experience. And then after that
Speaker 8: I kind of deep dived into wanting to research this
Speaker 8: kind of thing. You know, had other people seen this,
Speaker 8: and they had, and they describe it the same way,
Speaker 8: with like a robe with a tall collar.
Speaker 7: And cause you think for a moment.
Speaker 8: Maybe you're making it up or that it's just some
Speaker 8: part of what you've seen or something. But then when
Speaker 8: you hear other people describe it the same way, and
Speaker 8: it's this thing and it showed itself to me exactly
Speaker 8: how other people have seen it.
Speaker 7: There's not much room for debate.
Speaker 8: So after this it was just more synchronicities and I
Speaker 8: had done it was such a beautiful experience. I started
Speaker 8: doing meditating and other forms of healing. And also another
Speaker 8: message that was in that Mantis was communicating to me
Speaker 8: was nature and earth being very important. The place that
Speaker 8: I was in was very green and brown and kind
Speaker 8: of how important nature is. I wanted to see Mantis again.
Speaker 8: You know, you kind of get in a place where
Speaker 8: it becomes kind of obsessive because it's such a wild experience.
Speaker 8: You want to learn more and study more and find answers,
Speaker 8: and I think a big part of life is never.
Speaker 7: Having the answers fully.
Speaker 8: But I started meditating and I actually found this Golden
Speaker 8: Mantis transmission online that someone did about meeting these beings.
Speaker 8: And again, still my mind, it's being blown that this
Speaker 8: exists and somehow in my subconscious in my mind, I
Speaker 8: could come across that and it already exists.
Speaker 7: Is just absolutely mind blowing. But I started doing.
Speaker 8: This meditation by myself, and I did see Mantis again,
Speaker 8: and again it was just this feeling of this time
Speaker 8: like I was just meditating by myself. I wasn't under hypnosis,
Speaker 8: So again there was this feeling of being so proud
Speaker 8: of me, so loving, so supportive, and it was really
Speaker 8: proud of me that I had communicated with it on
Speaker 8: my own. Was the Again, it's just like a feeling
Speaker 8: and knowing that you get super loving and touching.
Speaker 7: We were touching foreheads.
Speaker 8: So I also like with then research, listening to your podcast,
Speaker 8: hearing other people's experiences of it, of kind of the
Speaker 8: stories are like, it's not something they signed up for
Speaker 8: to experience something like this, and it's quite traumatic and
Speaker 8: can be scary and stuff like this, which the unknown
Speaker 8: is scary, but I do. I did just find it
Speaker 8: interesting how differently people can experience aliens and other beings
Speaker 8: because I was in a state of not a lot
Speaker 8: of fear, which I think is why my therapist offered
Speaker 8: the session because she knew I was in that place.
Speaker 8: And I would say, it's definitely something that changed my life.
Speaker 8: I've taken metaphysics classes and really delve deep into this,
Speaker 8: and you do have to, like Mantis told me, stay grounded.
Speaker 8: And it's really wild because when I've told this story
Speaker 8: or because I'm very open about what I've been through,
Speaker 8: and I'll tell anybody because it as wild as it
Speaker 8: is telling somebody it might sound like the craziest thing
Speaker 8: they've ever heard, and for me it was one of
Speaker 8: the most real things I've ever experienced.
Speaker 7: It was so real.
Speaker 8: So since then, I have started my own podcast. I
Speaker 8: am an artist. I paint and I sing and write music,
Speaker 8: and I'm a very colorful, colorful, colorful person. So when
Speaker 8: I heard your episode about a mantis being and someone
Speaker 8: describing it the same exact way, this person was also
Speaker 8: very into art, just artists and color, and I thought,
Speaker 8: you know again, I just am thinking about this tie
Speaker 8: with mantid being specifically, at least because I know there's
Speaker 8: many different kinds of aliens and worlds.
Speaker 7: Out there, but.
Speaker 8: Very much so like enabled me to step into my full,
Speaker 8: colorful self and helping me know be who I am
Speaker 8: more fearlessly and sharing the gifts that I have. And
Speaker 8: I started performing my music, which is something that I
Speaker 8: put off for a lot in my life due to fear.
Speaker 8: I think there's a big tie to the feeling of
Speaker 8: fear versus trust, just the different ways you go about
Speaker 8: life and view the world based off of which state
Speaker 8: of mine you're in fear or trust. And whenever I'm
Speaker 8: in this trust mode is when these synchronicity happens. So
Speaker 8: when I did that meditation where I saw Mantis again
Speaker 8: on my own I had pulled. I got really into
Speaker 8: oracle cards as well in Taro and all the witchy things,
Speaker 8: spiritual things, And when before I did that meditation, I
Speaker 8: pulled a card that said connect to your guide. So
Speaker 8: the intention for that meditation was to get some sort
Speaker 8: of message from my guides. And the meditation was about
Speaker 8: forty five minutes. The minute I ended the meditation and
Speaker 8: started wiggling back into my body, I got a message
Speaker 8: from someone asking me if I wanted to perform in
Speaker 8: a show, which was my first time performing for a
Speaker 8: long long time. So it's one of these things I
Speaker 8: can tell when I'm in this trust mode and the
Speaker 8: world really vibrates back to what you need, and part
Speaker 8: of me thinks about, you know, how much validation do
Speaker 8: you need in order to know what you're here to
Speaker 8: do in this world? So that was definitely, you know,
Speaker 8: it's like something that's in the back of your mind,
Speaker 8: like Manta said, like you know what you're supposed to do,
Speaker 8: but sometimes we're scared to follow our dreams or because
Speaker 8: of the programming of the world, the fear, and so
Speaker 8: for me, it was really really huge and just to
Speaker 8: get that message the minute I was done with the
Speaker 8: meditation was again just one of these mind blowing moments.
Speaker 8: It's really an overwhelming feeling of validation. It's just like
Speaker 8: a knowing. It's just a knowing. So that was a
Speaker 8: clear communication to me. So since then, I've really started
Speaker 8: doing music more and following that and chasing it, and
Speaker 8: I've had people, you know, with my music style, it's
Speaker 8: very self reflective and healing for me and what I
Speaker 8: hope to give to other people. And I've had people
Speaker 8: come up to me and tell me that my music
Speaker 8: makes them think about their own behavior. And it's just
Speaker 8: this culmination of feeling like that's my purpose and I
Speaker 8: think service to others and you know, healing the self
Speaker 8: and are just all components that make for a fulfilling life.
Speaker 8: And yeah, it was just one of these moments where
Speaker 8: it felt like the universe was trying to communicate to
Speaker 8: me what I needed to do, what I was longing
Speaker 8: for when I was wondering what was missing from my life.
Speaker 8: And there really isn't any doubts about that, even though
Speaker 8: sometimes I doubt myself, but I don't doubt the message
Speaker 8: from the universe. And there was also a couple other
Speaker 8: instances since.
Speaker 7: Then where I will talk to the sky at night.
Speaker 8: I love looking at the stars and star gazing and
Speaker 8: in general my life, but it's definitely escalated since the
Speaker 8: Mantis experience. There was one night that I was out
Speaker 8: there and it was after just a particularly rough few
Speaker 8: days emotionally mentally, and so I was just asking the sky,
Speaker 8: you know, why is it so hard to be a
Speaker 8: human sometimes? And I was super emotional, and I just
Speaker 8: asked for a sign. I asked if I could see something,
Speaker 8: not just a sign, like I wanted to see something
Speaker 8: in the sky, and I specifically asked for that just
Speaker 8: to kind of, you know, why do I need more
Speaker 8: validation at this point? I guess that's the humanness, but
Speaker 8: I'm like, maybe one one more time, just to make
Speaker 8: sure I'm not crazy. And I saw right above my
Speaker 8: home this blue propulsion of light. I didn't see a
Speaker 8: craft or anything. It just was this blue white light
Speaker 8: that was just you know, it wasn't like up in
Speaker 8: the sky.
Speaker 7: It was quite low above my home where I.
Speaker 8: Was looking, and I just I immediately launched my hand
Speaker 8: onto my mouth, gasping, oh my goodness, I actually just
Speaker 8: saw something after I asked, and again, just one of
Speaker 8: those moments where you start to through your own experience
Speaker 8: realize why people say I can't explain it, but I
Speaker 8: know I saw something, and I know it was a
Speaker 8: real situation for me. You know, I will say too,
Speaker 8: like your first thought when you had these experiences is
Speaker 8: not to grab camera. For me, I just wanted to
Speaker 8: sh I did want Oh my goodness, who can I
Speaker 8: share this with? Who can I tell who has seen this?
Speaker 8: A lot of things run through your mind, But I
Speaker 8: mean I just was gasping and staring at the same spot,
Speaker 8: kind of humanly trying to process what I had just
Speaker 8: seen because it can't be explained in a normal, average way.
Speaker 8: That being said, I'm no expert in astronomy, but I
Speaker 8: do watch the sky a lot.
Speaker 7: I do see satellites.
Speaker 8: I do see you know the pattern of satellites and
Speaker 8: how they move, and I'm quite familiar with what could
Speaker 8: be a satellite. I love tracking the iss. This was
Speaker 8: nothing I'd seen before. I've seen shooting stars or meteor
Speaker 8: So after asking or having a emotional moment, I just
Speaker 8: look to the sky, and then you see something and
Speaker 8: it kind of just feels like it's just for you.
Speaker 8: It's just like a reassuring little kiss from the universe
Speaker 8: whatever you believe to just say it's okay, got this
Speaker 8: is really what.
Speaker 7: It feels like.
Speaker 8: And when you are vibrating or in this place of trust,
Speaker 8: I would say you can just feel the connection. I
Speaker 8: suppose it's not. And when I'm not in this place
Speaker 8: of trust or belief for having doubts, you know, I
Speaker 8: feel like I don't have these experiences or I don't
Speaker 8: notice them, I'm not aware of them because I'm not
Speaker 8: in a state of mind of trusting. And then one
Speaker 8: other experience that I had beside.
Speaker 7: It's the blue beam. I think you had someone.
Speaker 8: Recently or maybe it was a replay where someone talked
Speaker 8: about a blue light and I can't remember what word
Speaker 8: they use, but I was like, oh, yeah, that's a
Speaker 8: great way to explain it. And then the only other
Speaker 8: time I was looking out at the sky, and it
Speaker 8: was a few days after seeing the blue light, because
Speaker 8: I was kind of really geeked on that and super,
Speaker 8: oh my goodness, this is awesome, Like I can't believe
Speaker 8: that happened. So I was getting greedy, and I was,
Speaker 8: can I see something tonight? I will really be out
Speaker 8: loud talking to this guy. And I saw what looked
Speaker 8: like little stars going into it at other star altis
Speaker 8: I think it was. I zoomed in on it and
Speaker 8: looked up what one it was, but you know, it
Speaker 8: wasn't satellite level. It was further out in space than that,
Speaker 8: much more tiny, and it was zoom. One was flying
Speaker 8: into a star, and then one a few you know,
Speaker 8: not a few feet probably a few hundred feet above,
Speaker 8: went into the star, and then there was one trailing,
Speaker 8: and then two and that it was very random amounts
Speaker 8: of what looked like really far away ships going into
Speaker 8: a planet or a star, not really like a chain
Speaker 8: like starlink or a syncopated thing or an organized one
Speaker 8: type of speed like a satellite.
Speaker 7: It was far away.
Speaker 8: It was about five or six at random paces and
Speaker 8: times flying into this star. So after that I knew
Speaker 8: what I experienced was real.
Speaker 7: And it's almost like you can tell when you're in.
Speaker 8: A place to be able to see these things versus not.
Speaker 8: It has been a wild year that all happen this
Speaker 8: year for me, So for me, it was super.
Speaker 7: In sync with.
Speaker 8: Healing, emotions and mentality and spirituality totally totally related for me.
Speaker 3: That's wonderful. You know, it seems that your spiritual path
Speaker 3: came about due to having, you know, these problems in
Speaker 3: your life. You had this this trauma and in our respect,
Speaker 3: you know, our our lives are set in a certain direction.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, we go through these things to
Speaker 3: you know, to obviously learn from it and grow.
Speaker 7: One hundred percent.
Speaker 8: I go about it saying twenty twenty, twenty twenty one
Speaker 8: where some of the worst years of my life, and
Speaker 8: this year was one of the best years of my life.
Speaker 8: And I wouldn't change a thing. And it one hundred
Speaker 8: percent was something too. I had to experience a trauma
Speaker 8: I went through to be able to grow and continue
Speaker 8: my journey one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: You know, you go through these these situations and these
Speaker 3: these times and that is all you know, that's all
Speaker 3: part of growing and but you know they do make
Speaker 3: you stronger.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, but they are tough.
Speaker 3: But you know, people have to go through these. I'll
Speaker 3: be surprised if you find anyone that I've never had
Speaker 3: any any problems. I've had a completely smooth ride. Everyone
Speaker 3: just about everyone has had something going on and we
Speaker 3: just got to kind of learn from this.
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, And do you hope.
Speaker 3: To connect with with Mantis again?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 8: I feel like it was a lot to take in,
Speaker 8: and I have been thinking recently I do want to
Speaker 8: sign up for another QHHT session or I've even thought
Speaker 8: about signing up to be a practitioner to be able
Speaker 8: to do this for others because it's so validating and healing,
Speaker 8: and I think having a element of believing that there's
Speaker 8: more than this life is important to enjoy this life.
Speaker 3: In order to enjoy it, absolutely come down this path,
Speaker 3: which is you know, which is give you an interest
Speaker 3: in the subject. Did you have a particular interest in
Speaker 3: it all beforehand?
Speaker 8: I would say I always loved magical things, like Allis
Speaker 8: in Wonderland was my favorite movie growing up. I will
Speaker 8: say I actually I started in twenty twenty, like as
Speaker 8: the peak of my spiritual evolution was happening. I did
Speaker 8: start listening to the Bigfoot podcasts, and you know, got
Speaker 8: into that. I'd seen UFO like documentaries, but nothing like
Speaker 8: I'm interested now kind of just the average oh this
Speaker 8: would be cool now, since it's just not something that's
Speaker 8: cool that's real for me, and even since, like sharing
Speaker 8: this experience with my mom, who doesn't talk about that
Speaker 8: kind of stuff at all, She's like, yeah, I saw
Speaker 8: UFO when I was younger.
Speaker 7: I'm like, what, excuse me? How could you not share this?
Speaker 8: So I do think it's really interesting and grateful for
Speaker 8: people like you, because when you share these experiences, it's
Speaker 8: just so validating for other people. My mom probably never
Speaker 8: felt comfortable sharing that.
Speaker 3: You know, they're right there. There's plenty of people which
Speaker 3: you've experienced, but you know they haven't they haven't shared,
Speaker 3: and they haven't told family members. People are turning around
Speaker 3: a bit, having discussions and more. I think more people
Speaker 3: are actually coming into the subject now with a you know,
Speaker 3: you know, a proper interest.
Speaker 8: Yes, and you know, i'd heard some people say like
Speaker 8: they'd seen a UFO before, but it's almost going through
Speaker 8: the traumatic experiences as well. It's kind of something you
Speaker 8: have to experience for yourself. It just doesn't carry that
Speaker 8: much weight when you hear it if you haven't had
Speaker 8: your own experience, so you can only accept it so far.
Speaker 7: And and so that's probably.
Speaker 8: Why my mom felt comfortable sharing, because I'd had my
Speaker 8: own experience and you know, it's just.
Speaker 7: Knowing my mom.
Speaker 8: It totally blew my mind that she had seen this
Speaker 8: and never said anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very interesting. Yeah, you're absolutely right, it is.
Speaker 3: It is difficult to share things with people if you know,
Speaker 3: if they can't if they can't connect with you know,
Speaker 3: because they people won't understand. And when did you get
Speaker 3: into podcasts and you've got a show called The outer
Speaker 3: Space with Aunt comment.
Speaker 7: I do so.
Speaker 8: It kind of went hand in hand with the Mantis experience.
Speaker 8: I haven't delved into aliens yet on the podcast, but
Speaker 8: that is the plan it. I'm starting it kind of
Speaker 8: with sharing healing tools and tips for people to come
Speaker 8: back to themselves in a world that encourage us to
Speaker 8: be anything but ourselves and not share these experiences and
Speaker 8: not follow the call our soul is telling us to
Speaker 8: do so. Yeah, the podcast is a lot about healing
Speaker 8: and self discovery.
Speaker 3: Spiritual safe place with discussions to help you connect with
Speaker 3: your true essence.
Speaker 7: Yes, that is.
Speaker 3: It wonderful and it's available on all podcast apps. So
Speaker 3: any listeners out there that are interested in healing, you know,
Speaker 3: go Poper Juliana visit That's the outer Space with and commt.
Speaker 7: Yes, we'd love to hear and share.
Speaker 3: Is that a nickname and commit you know it.
Speaker 8: Is a persona that came through again with this Mantis experience.
Speaker 8: I felt who I really was was coming in to
Speaker 8: this reality like a comment from outer space. And it
Speaker 8: also feels so it's my musician name as well, but
Speaker 8: it feels like a way to Everybody needs an ante
Speaker 8: to help them out through life, and I feel like
Speaker 8: that's what I can offer.
Speaker 3: Wonderful. Yeah, I agree, that's great. What I'll do is
Speaker 3: for listeners, I'll put all the links below and on
Speaker 3: the way lovely.
Speaker 7: I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: No problem. Do you have guests on?
Speaker 8: I am just starting to take guests right, okay, something
Speaker 8: I want to be able to discuss these topics and
Speaker 8: because that is where all those synchronicities come out again.
Speaker 8: You know, I have gotten feedback from people just saying
Speaker 8: I even like the synchronistic stuff is so magical.
Speaker 7: And I absolutely love it and it's so real.
Speaker 8: Like I've had someone say I was just listening to
Speaker 8: your podcast and you said, how you through this healing journey.
Speaker 8: I've been able to be your colorful alien self, And
Speaker 8: this person who was listening was also very colorful, but
Speaker 8: he said that he had downplayed it and kind of
Speaker 8: just like, doesn't put that much effort into it sometimes
Speaker 8: because what's the point.
Speaker 7: And as I was saying.
Speaker 8: Be yourself, be your colorful self, someone walked into his
Speaker 8: work and the background was like, hey, mister colorful And
Speaker 8: just like those little synchronicities, and also just the fact
Speaker 8: that other people see it as synchronistic and share it
Speaker 8: with me, it's it's so beautiful and that.
Speaker 3: Is what life is. Life is full of these synchronists.
Speaker 3: And especially when you get involved in this stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: whether it's voluntary or involuntary, these things do happen. I
Speaker 3: don't really believe in coincidence too much, but these, you know,
Speaker 3: these things do happen. And I always call it the
Speaker 3: paranormal bubble. You know, when you when you get deep
Speaker 3: into this stuff, strange things do happen. You have some
Speaker 3: really strange meetings with people which you generally wouldn't have had.
Speaker 3: It's unusual.
Speaker 8: It feels like for me, it's like the universe reflects
Speaker 8: back what you where you're at, what you need, what
Speaker 8: you what your soul desires or needs to hear.
Speaker 3: You can stay on a particular path, but you have
Speaker 3: to be aware that you know, there is a darker
Speaker 3: side to life. There's stuff out there which is dangerous
Speaker 3: and it's very easy to get involved with. You know,
Speaker 3: I have done the past, but it's part and past
Speaker 3: with this subject.
Speaker 8: Yes, and that has been like knowing I do like
Speaker 8: to be part of healing others, whether it's through art,
Speaker 8: music or podcast. That again, finding the balance and making
Speaker 8: sure you take time for yourself because as somebody like
Speaker 8: I will definitely absorb those energies as we do as humans.
Speaker 8: So yeah, a good reminder too. That's why you got
Speaker 8: to do your self care, cooking or your meditation, and
Speaker 8: you've got your weekends you got to do for yourself
Speaker 8: because it's super easy to be affected by that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, no matter how hard your life has been or
Speaker 3: the things that have happened in your life, you've already
Speaker 3: you know, you've chosen this already, when you know before
Speaker 3: you came into this body, you made a decision that
Speaker 3: this was the life that you wanted to do, so
Speaker 3: you can learn from it a bit like a library.
Speaker 3: You know, you go into a library if you just
Speaker 3: read easy books, you know they're easy books. You're not
Speaker 3: learn learning techniques you know, getting much from it. But
Speaker 3: if you read a difficult book, you know you're learning,
Speaker 3: so you know you're getting so much more from it.
Speaker 3: And that's the way I look at it. You know,
Speaker 3: tough life, hard book, easy life, easy books. So I
Speaker 3: think we have to take you know, sometimes hard, sometimes easy.
Speaker 3: So whatever does happen in your life, you've already chose this,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's all part of the growth.
Speaker 8: And it's so freeing to think of it that way.
Speaker 8: I feel like in the other kind of in a
Speaker 8: victim mindset where things are happening to you instead of,
Speaker 8: like you said, choosing it and choosing to learn from
Speaker 8: it and grow from it, and just the awareness that
Speaker 8: you needed that experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. It's easy to get into that
Speaker 3: victim mentality and then before you know it, then everything
Speaker 3: is on top of you know, everything is grounding you down,
Speaker 3: and you can it would eventually put you in a
Speaker 3: place where it's sometimes impossible to get out of. So
Speaker 3: there's always someone else that has it worse. Their life
Speaker 3: can be, you know, a lot worse than when yours.
Speaker 8: That's why I look at it so and a lot
Speaker 8: of the times I believe it's I can't remember who
Speaker 8: says it. A philosopher of sorts that says, you know,
Speaker 8: a lot of our suffering is in our mind. So
Speaker 8: not only are do other people have more suffering, but
Speaker 8: a lot of the times we're not actually suffering as
Speaker 8: much as we think we are, or we contribute to
Speaker 8: our own.
Speaker 3: You're projecting it, You petrolating the problem when actually could
Speaker 3: be quite a simple solution. No problem, Julianne. I really
Speaker 3: appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.
Speaker 7: Thank you. I'm grateful to share, and thank you for
Speaker 7: having me.
Speaker 3: Okay, wonderful. It was great speaking to you, right, Take
Speaker 3: care and we'd talk soon.
Speaker 7: Sounds good. Have a great rest of.
Speaker 3: Your week, and you indeed take care yourself. By bye
Speaker 3: for now.
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Speaker 3: Hello, Pat, Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Hello, thank you for having.
Speaker 3: Me, Thank you for joining us today. And you're calling
Speaker 3: from New York.
Speaker 1: I am in New York. Yeah, snowy New York.
Speaker 3: Snowy, New York. Wonderful. Now, Pat, do you have some
Speaker 3: experiences to share? Would you like to start at the beginning? Please?
Speaker 1: Sure? So, I think, actually, if it's all right, I'll
Speaker 1: start with my most recent one, because it sort of
Speaker 1: sparked the memory of or not necessarily sparked it, but
Speaker 1: kind of brought to the forefront of the memory of
Speaker 1: one that I of an experience I had as a child.
Speaker 1: So last year in December, I be again. I also
Speaker 1: would like to start off by saying that I don't
Speaker 1: It's really hard for me to like believe in most
Speaker 1: paranormal things. I don't really I'm pretty skeptical about a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, and while I do have a big
Speaker 1: interest in UFOs, I don't feel like it's likely that
Speaker 1: I would experience something. So just that being said, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to kind of put that out there. Last December,
Speaker 1: I started having this issue where I would wake up
Speaker 1: every night at the same time, between three o'clock and
Speaker 1: three fifteen am, and I would just feel like there
Speaker 1: was something in the room with me, or someone very
Speaker 1: specifically like staring at me from the darkness right and
Speaker 1: there's like enough ambient light in my room from you know,
Speaker 1: the moon comes in right through my window and so
Speaker 1: it's not like complete dark. I can see kind of
Speaker 1: my door from my bed. But so I keep waking
Speaker 1: up and feeling like there's something in my room staring
Speaker 1: at me. And I'm pretty familiar with like sleep paralysis
Speaker 1: and the shadow men and things of that nature. But
Speaker 1: it didn't. There was never a time where I woke
Speaker 1: up and felt like I couldn't move, or that there
Speaker 1: was any kind of pressure or like any kind of
Speaker 1: weight on top of me or anything like that. It
Speaker 1: was always purely just there was something in the room
Speaker 1: staring at me. And now this started happening and didn't
Speaker 1: stop happening. It was just it every single night, and
Speaker 1: I didn't talk about it. I didn't tell anybody about it.
Speaker 1: I kind of was just like dealing with it. And
Speaker 1: then maybe two weeks two or three weeks into this experience,
Speaker 1: I had a friend ask me if I, well, they
Speaker 1: know that I don't really believe in like mediums and
Speaker 1: you know, psychics and stuff like that. It's very difficult
Speaker 1: for me to subscribe to that sort of thing. But
Speaker 1: she mentioned that like she had gone to see a
Speaker 1: medium and that the medium started asking very pointed questions
Speaker 1: about a friend, and the answers could kind of own
Speaker 1: the question she was asking, could kind of only be
Speaker 1: about me, Like I was the only person in her
Speaker 1: life that fit the answers for the questions, I suppose.
Speaker 1: And she the medium told her that my that my
Speaker 1: third eye had been forced open and that I had
Speaker 1: attracted the attention of something that was going to hang
Speaker 1: around me for months and then stop. So she tells
Speaker 1: me this, and I kind of like laughed it off,
Speaker 1: because that does that just does not sound like anything
Speaker 1: that I would ever be willing to believe. But it
Speaker 1: keeps happening. It keeps happening. I keep waking up at
Speaker 1: three o'clock and feeling like there's something in my room
Speaker 1: staring at me. I even had This is when it
Speaker 1: started to kind of like become a little bit more real.
Speaker 1: I had a friend sleep here and they woke up
Speaker 1: in the middle at three o'clock. And with that, I
Speaker 1: hadn't told anybody about this. The only person that knew
Speaker 1: at this point was my friend who had mentioned the
Speaker 1: medium to me. So I had somebody sleep here and
Speaker 1: they woke up at three and the next day said
Speaker 1: that they felt like there's somebody in the room staring
Speaker 1: at them, and so that kind of like made it
Speaker 1: feel way more real. And that was that was last year,
Speaker 1: actually almost right around this time. Yeah, we're in January,
Speaker 1: so it would have been right around this time, towards
Speaker 1: the end of January, I think. And so this goes
Speaker 1: on for months until maybe like the beginning of the summer,
Speaker 1: and then it sort of just started to really stress
Speaker 1: me out that it was still happening. And I don't know, again,
Speaker 1: I didn't really like talk about it with anybody because
Speaker 1: it just felt I was being I don't know, paranoid
Speaker 1: or dramatic or something. And so one night I was
Speaker 1: it all kind of came to a head where one
Speaker 1: night I was going to sleep and I I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think of like how to explain this. So I'm
Speaker 1: laying down and I do I have like a very
Speaker 1: particular routine. When I go to sleep, I lay down
Speaker 1: on my left side, and I have my laptop in
Speaker 1: my face, and I'm usually watching something on YouTube. And
Speaker 1: when it's time for me to, like when my eyelids
Speaker 1: are getting heavy and it's time for me to go
Speaker 1: to sleep, I put on some sort of white noise
Speaker 1: like snow or thunderstorm or waves, and they're all ten
Speaker 1: hour videos, and so I put that on, and then
Speaker 1: I turned onto my right side and face away from
Speaker 1: my laptop and fall asleep. Right, So I do that.
Speaker 1: I put on like waves or thunderstorms or whatever, and
Speaker 1: I turn onto my right side, and I'm falling asleep.
Speaker 1: And just just as I'm about to like hit sleep,
Speaker 1: right when I'm about to transition into sleep, and you're
Speaker 1: kind of like in that little half awake, half asleep place,
Speaker 1: an alarm goes off in my brain and it's like
Speaker 1: you're the white noise stopped. There's no more sound. My
Speaker 1: laptop's plugged in. It's a ten hour video. There's no
Speaker 1: reason it should have stopped. And I so I turned
Speaker 1: around and my laptop is closed, and that freaked me out.
Speaker 1: I sat up and I had like the hair on
Speaker 1: my neck was like all the way up and it's
Speaker 1: kind of comical now that I think about it, but
Speaker 1: I kind of just yelled into the darkness. I was like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? And then that was it. That
Speaker 1: was That was the last time I had that experience
Speaker 1: where I woke up at three am and felt like
Speaker 1: something was That was the last time anything weird and
Speaker 1: attributed to this had happened. And I would wake up
Speaker 1: at three am a couple of times after that, but
Speaker 1: never felt like there was anything in the room with me.
Speaker 1: So I didn't experience anything for months, and then a
Speaker 1: few months ago, maybe like two two or three now,
Speaker 1: probably about two months ago, I had an experience that
Speaker 1: I that I think is connected to this. It was
Speaker 1: the same sort of thing where I woke up at
Speaker 1: three am. And this makes me feel a little bit
Speaker 1: like nutty to say, but I don't know it. I
Speaker 1: kind of don't know what to do with it because
Speaker 1: I don't in a lot of ways. I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I was like taken, but I had this overwhelming
Speaker 1: feeling that I it was not in my room, although
Speaker 1: I was in my bed, it felt like I it
Speaker 1: was like it felt like a replica of my like
Speaker 1: a recreation of my room. And actually before the podcast,
Speaker 1: we were just chatting about how I love cats my cat.
Speaker 1: I'm like very my ears are very like acutely attuned
Speaker 1: to his movements when he's in the room. He snores,
Speaker 1: He's actually pretty loud if he's moving around late at night,
Speaker 1: like I can hear He's a big boy, so I
Speaker 1: can hear him padding around. And it just like there,
Speaker 1: it was just complete silence, which is not usual for him.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just it just didn't feel like
Speaker 1: I was in my room and I was freaking out,
Speaker 1: and I my heart was like going, I had like
Speaker 1: adrenaline was going. And I must have been laying under
Speaker 1: with my hand kind of like over my face and
Speaker 1: the covers like over my head, probably for like an
Speaker 1: hour and a half or two hours, and it just
Speaker 1: felt really really intense. And when I finally and I
Speaker 1: kept telling myself that I was just being ridiculous. This
Speaker 1: isn't happening, this is like not real, You're just psyching
Speaker 1: yourself out. And when I went to take the blanket
Speaker 1: down from my face, how childish. But when I went
Speaker 1: to take the blanket down from my face, there's a
Speaker 1: crack in my door, and it I it felt like
Speaker 1: I saw a face in the door that kind of
Speaker 1: would fit the your typical typical grays, right, like big eyes,
Speaker 1: gray skin, And that sent me into a spiral and
Speaker 1: I put the blanket back up and like continue to
Speaker 1: freak out for another like probably hour. So all that
Speaker 1: being said, it's really hard for me to believe that
Speaker 1: something extraterrestrial necessarily happened to me, or not extraterrestrial, but
Speaker 1: like something with aliens or any kind of ADU abduction
Speaker 1: actually happened, because I like, why would it happen to me?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't feel like, although I guess like
Speaker 1: in most cases it's not always there doesn't really seem
Speaker 1: to be an answer to that question. But it just
Speaker 1: it seemed too convenient, I guess because of my interest.
Speaker 1: So I kept telling myself that I was just being ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I was being ridiculous. That was sort of the end
Speaker 1: of that. I haven't had anything happen weird. I haven't
Speaker 1: even really been waking up at that time since that happened.
Speaker 1: But what did happen like right around that time? So
Speaker 1: another experience that happened was I went hiking in November,
Speaker 1: and in the Hudson Valley there's like a lot of
Speaker 1: like really like high mountains that have like a great
Speaker 1: view of the Hudson River and you can kind of
Speaker 1: you get like a lot of sky right there's a
Speaker 1: lot of like really open sky that you can see.
Speaker 1: And so I was on the mountain it's called Breakneck Mountain,
Speaker 1: and I was laying down. It was in November. It
Speaker 1: was totally clear sky, literally no clouds, and I was
Speaker 1: laying there and what looked like a white orb appeared
Speaker 1: zipped across like the sky my vision and disappeared above
Speaker 1: like above, not even behind, like above a mountain that
Speaker 1: was like kind of like right next to where I was.
Speaker 1: And I sat there kind of stunned for fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what that could have been. Like
Speaker 1: there's no way that I just in broad daylight saw
Speaker 1: some sort of UFO Like that had to have been,
Speaker 1: you know, something like in my when you see like
Speaker 1: spots in your eyes or something. It had to have
Speaker 1: been something like that, or like maybe I just was
Speaker 1: seeing a bird that was flying away from me or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was trying anything to justify seeing
Speaker 1: that as like not a UFO. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just don't feel like I would experience that that that
Speaker 1: would happen to me. So that was It was very
Speaker 1: quick and it didn't last, and it just kind of happened.
Speaker 1: It came and it went, and it left me sort
Speaker 1: of like st there. There's I can't think of anything
Speaker 1: that that could have been in that moment in that area.
Speaker 1: There's no sound, there's nothing. It just zipped, it appeared,
Speaker 1: it zipped, and then it disappeared, and that was it.
Speaker 1: It kind of blew my mind. And so that happening
Speaker 1: and then the what I was experiencing last year sort
Speaker 1: of reawakened this memory that I had from my childhood
Speaker 1: that again, this is something that I sort of don't
Speaker 1: know what to do with because I do feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, memory can be kind of unreliable, and especially
Speaker 1: when you're you know, and I was. I was particularly
Speaker 1: imaginative as a child, So I don't know. So I
Speaker 1: was playing on the edge of my bed with like
Speaker 1: my action figures or something, right, I was like six
Speaker 1: or seven or something like that. I was playing with
Speaker 1: my my action figures on the edge of my bed,
Speaker 1: and I like dropped one off the foot of my bed,
Speaker 1: and the foot of my bed faced the window, and
Speaker 1: I like leaned over to grab it off the edge.
Speaker 1: And as I was leaning down, I looked out the
Speaker 1: window and there was an orb, a glowing orb about
Speaker 1: the size of a softball, that moved past my window.
Speaker 1: And I got up and I walked over to the
Speaker 1: window and like looked out and there was nothing there.
Speaker 1: It was just it moved past my window and that
Speaker 1: was it. I really only caught like a quick glimpse
Speaker 1: of it. But I never like I didn't I would
Speaker 1: always like think about it, but never really like kind
Speaker 1: of think on it a lot. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: would come up in my head and i'd i'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that happened. But I never really like gave
Speaker 1: much thought to it until the last few years when
Speaker 1: I got really into like UFOs, and then this whole
Speaker 1: this experience in the last year happened. And when I
Speaker 1: started listening to your podcast more and hearing other people's
Speaker 1: stories about the way that they described seeing UFOs, the
Speaker 1: light that they emit, it really makes me feel like
Speaker 1: that's what I saw, This light that sort of like
Speaker 1: almost changes and it's more ambient than hard light. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean that's kind of it. I all three
Speaker 1: of them, I don't really know what to do with.
Speaker 1: And I'm very reticent to say it was definitely this thing,
Speaker 1: like I don't know what it was. I don't know
Speaker 1: what any of them were. And they all three, particularly
Speaker 1: the two recent ones have sort of left feeling a
Speaker 1: little kind of left me feeling shaken. But the one
Speaker 1: from my childhood softball sized or just I just the
Speaker 1: more I thought about it, the more it kind of
Speaker 1: reformed in my head. It just felt kind of coincidental
Speaker 1: and interesting. So yeah, that's that's that's my stories.
Speaker 3: Good job, Patrick, I'm a talker, no problem, No that
Speaker 3: this this orb? How big would you have said it?
Speaker 3: This orb was?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like it was like the size of
Speaker 1: like a softball, So it's like a little bit bigger
Speaker 1: than a baseball. It like moved past my window. Not
Speaker 1: it didn't like zip past like super fast. It moved
Speaker 1: at a speed that was definitely slower than something that
Speaker 1: would be falling. Like it didn't look like it was
Speaker 1: necessarily like floating quote unquote like a feather wood, but
Speaker 1: It definitely wasn't falling like an actual ball would. It
Speaker 1: looked like it was moving at a at an intended
Speaker 1: speed if I describe it, And the light that it
Speaker 1: was giving off was a greenish like whitish yellowish changing.
Speaker 1: Sort of difficult for me to like put words on it,
Speaker 1: but that's how if I could, that would be kind
Speaker 1: of like the best way that I could do it.
Speaker 3: And was it directly outside of your window?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was like right outside my window, Like if
Speaker 1: I was standing there and had stuck my hand out,
Speaker 1: I probably could have grabbed it.
Speaker 3: Okay. Was the window? Was your room elevated? Was it
Speaker 3: just a single.
Speaker 1: Story, Yeah, it's on the second story.
Speaker 3: Okay, there was definitely wasn't car headlights being reflected or
Speaker 3: anything like that.
Speaker 1: No, No, And actually the house is set quite far
Speaker 1: back from the road and on a sort of like
Speaker 1: a big hill. It's a private road, so not many
Speaker 1: people come up, and the headlights from cars would have
Speaker 1: been blocked by many trees and some pretty thick bushes.
Speaker 3: Plus you wouldn't be on air if it was just headlights.
Speaker 1: If I did think it was just headlights, I probably
Speaker 1: would have kept that one to myself.
Speaker 3: Exactly. We all know what headlights look like. Wonderful. Yeahy
Speaker 3: interesting when all that was and as a kid in
Speaker 3: that house, you hadn't experienced anything strange before.
Speaker 1: No, my older sister used to say stuff like that
Speaker 1: the house was haunted and stuff, but she would kind
Speaker 1: of just say stuff like that to like mess with
Speaker 1: me and my younger sister. It wasn't any It's not
Speaker 1: anything real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, siblings do that. I try and put the frighteners
Speaker 3: at you, right, wonderful. Okay, Now when you being stared
Speaker 3: at in your room, been in that place a long time,
Speaker 3: you know, when you're waking up at three am.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've been here for quite a long time.
Speaker 3: You'd wake up and it was over consecutive nights.
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, yeah, it was like every night from when
Speaker 1: it started. It was every night for months. And because
Speaker 1: I was like waking up and having my sleep interrupted
Speaker 1: in that way, I've always kind of had bad sleep,
Speaker 1: but not like that where I was like when I
Speaker 1: say I wake up, like my eyes snapped open and
Speaker 1: I was awake. I was wide awake instantly every time.
Speaker 1: And because my sleep was being interrupted like that, and
Speaker 1: I wasn't really get proper rests I just I started
Speaker 1: thinking that like it was happening because I wasn't getting sleep,
Speaker 1: and it was like a cycle where I was trying
Speaker 1: anything to justify this as being my own kind kind
Speaker 1: of just weird brain doing something weird. But when other
Speaker 1: people started saying weird things that that's when it became
Speaker 1: like more real. And then when the laptop closed, that
Speaker 1: was just I couldn't There's nothing I could have. There's
Speaker 1: no explanation for how that would have happened that I
Speaker 1: can come up with.
Speaker 3: And prior to these months, did this happening? Was there
Speaker 3: anything previous to that?
Speaker 1: No? No, there's nothing previous to that. Like I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I've always had bad sleep, but not anything
Speaker 1: like that, and never never any kind of like sleep
Speaker 1: paralysis or night terrors or nothing like that. No hat man,
Speaker 1: no shadow people, no experiences with any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: I guess one time when I was like, I had
Speaker 1: a one of my best friends passed away when I
Speaker 1: was younger, and I had like a really realistic dream
Speaker 1: where I felt like I was awake and he was
Speaker 1: sitting on my bed. But that's like the closest I mean,
Speaker 1: that happened years ago, and I would attribute that more
Speaker 1: to just like me missing my friend very much, and
Speaker 1: not any kind of supernatural anything of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, I know you're a little bit skeptical
Speaker 3: to paranormal on that, But it could just been that
Speaker 3: maybe you just pick something up along the way, something
Speaker 3: you know, something clung on to you and just stuck
Speaker 3: with you for a few months.
Speaker 1: That does And now that I've kind of been a
Speaker 1: little bit more vocal about it with some of my
Speaker 1: friends and stuff like that in the in the last
Speaker 1: recent months after everything has happened, that seems to be
Speaker 1: like a couple of my friends who I do have
Speaker 1: a couple of friends who are very into spirituality and
Speaker 1: spirits and energy and things of that nature, and that
Speaker 1: seems to be the prevailing feeling, unanimously amongst them is
Speaker 1: that I that I did, that I that whatever the
Speaker 1: medium had the medium said was actually the case, and
Speaker 1: that I somehow attracted an energy or a being or
Speaker 1: a spirit of some sort, and that they kind of, yeah,
Speaker 1: just kind of clung.
Speaker 3: On and moved in for a few months, moved.
Speaker 1: In for a few months, yeah, and was particularly interested
Speaker 1: in waking me up at weird hours.
Speaker 3: I mean, you didn't get any I mean, other than
Speaker 3: the feeling of being watched, you didn't you couldn't smell
Speaker 3: any any smells or any or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Interesting. I don't think so. I don't think so. And
Speaker 1: also I never felt once that there was any mal
Speaker 1: intent and never felt malicious. I never felt I was
Speaker 1: never afraid for my safety. Any kind of like feelings
Speaker 1: of fear that I experienced were purely that I was
Speaker 1: experiencing something like outside of my frame of reference, Like
Speaker 1: I was experienced something that was that I knew was
Speaker 1: not normal and was weird. And that's where any feelings
Speaker 1: of fear came from. But I don't think I smelled anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you weren't get any bad feelings, You're just
Speaker 3: aware that you were being watched.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just felt very I think the fear
Speaker 1: came from the sort of confusion, right like, why is
Speaker 1: this happening?
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 3: I mean, I've got sometimes I'll be working to the
Speaker 3: very small hours and I've got headphones on, especially when
Speaker 3: I'm doing editing all the audio, and just now and
Speaker 3: again I'll get a feeling like I am being watched
Speaker 3: now it's not my cat. My cat's usually sleep in
Speaker 3: my inbox, just on the shelf for my wife being bad.
Speaker 3: And I'd have a feeling like I'm being watched. And
Speaker 3: I've got those sensors on my land in the hallway
Speaker 3: where you just walk under it and the light comes on.
Speaker 3: There's those anti savers, and I'd have this feeling and
Speaker 3: I turn around and one of the sensors would come
Speaker 3: on in the hallway outside of the studio. So not
Speaker 3: just I have the feeling, but I have the light
Speaker 3: gets activated as well, So that's strange. But then again,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, you've got headphones on, you can't
Speaker 3: hear what's happening around you, and you know the light
Speaker 3: could be malfunctioning. But you know, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I would I would shit a brick if that
Speaker 1: happened while I was awake and I saw something that
Speaker 1: like give me actual feedback that yes, there's something there,
Speaker 1: and you know you're my wife's asleep, I freak out.
Speaker 3: I must we give in bed. Sometimes and the light
Speaker 3: had come on the hallway and I'll think it's the cat,
Speaker 3: and then I'll see the cats of them. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: buy my legs so wonderful. Okay, and yeah, so it
Speaker 3: basically it came, it stuck with you for a while
Speaker 3: and it left again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3: And I think the slamming of the laptop was, you know,
Speaker 3: get some rest, turn off these movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the kind of last draft had felt
Speaker 1: like I had my sleep had been disturbed for so long,
Speaker 1: and it just I was like frustrated at that point.
Speaker 1: Even it scared the shit out of me, but I
Speaker 1: was also kind of just like frustrated, what is this?
Speaker 1: What is happening? Why is why is this happening? And
Speaker 1: I just yelled, you know, you're kidding me?
Speaker 3: And that was it.
Speaker 1: That was it, My it stopped. You know, up until
Speaker 1: that kind of thing that happened a couple of months ago,
Speaker 1: there there's been no kind of no interruptions in my
Speaker 1: sleep in that way, No, no feelings of being watched,
Speaker 1: none of that.
Speaker 3: The face in the doorway, now, was it like for
Speaker 3: the crack at the door, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was opened just enough for me to like
Speaker 1: see out into the hallway and there, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean it was it was at the exact height that
Speaker 1: I would imagine a face to be. I really tried
Speaker 1: to convince myself that I was just being that I
Speaker 1: was just making that up, that my brain was really
Speaker 1: just like kind of torturing itself for whatever, because I,
Speaker 1: like I said, it felt too convenient, because I I
Speaker 1: do consume quite a bit of UFO abduction information. Even
Speaker 1: though it felt very real, I was like trying to
Speaker 1: tell myself, dude, you are just bugging out right now.
Speaker 1: You're just having a little freak out, and you know,
Speaker 1: you like you watch too many movies, you read too
Speaker 1: many comics or whatever. But it just it felt so real.
Speaker 1: It felt so real, and when I when I saw
Speaker 1: the face, my heart jumped out of my throat. That
Speaker 1: is definitely there. That's just how it felt. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with it, and I
Speaker 1: really don't know.
Speaker 3: And you think it was connected with maybe what was watching.
Speaker 1: You when I was like laying in bed, kept thinking that,
Speaker 1: And really, I think the only reason I felt that way,
Speaker 1: or still do, I guess, is just because both experiences
Speaker 1: felt very I don't want to say voyeuristic, because that's
Speaker 1: not the right word, but it just felt like I
Speaker 1: was being like watched when I woke up that night
Speaker 1: and like saw the face that night particular, I felt
Speaker 1: I was being observed in like a zoo or something.
Speaker 1: That's how I would describe it, which sounds it sounds
Speaker 1: so ridiculous when I say it out loud, but that's
Speaker 1: really how it felt. I felt like I was in
Speaker 1: an exhibit being looked at.
Speaker 3: And did it feel intrusive.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would use the word intrusive.
Speaker 1: It felt like a bad recreation of my room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess, I guess maybe intrusive is
Speaker 1: the word.
Speaker 3: So it felt that you're possibly in a in a
Speaker 3: different place, but the images that around you is like
Speaker 3: masquerade nasure room.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you know, it was dark so I couldn't
Speaker 1: see every detail. When I first woke up, looked around
Speaker 1: and had this feeling, it felt like everything was like
Speaker 1: out of place, shifted by like an inch, you know,
Speaker 1: like everything was just not where it was supposed to
Speaker 1: be or something like something was off. And I immediately felt,
Speaker 1: this isn't my room, This is not my room, Like
Speaker 1: it looks like my room, but this isn't it.
Speaker 3: But everything was there, like cupboards and nothing missing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, except for Boris. Except for my cat. Boris was
Speaker 1: not there. He almost always sleeps in my room, especially
Speaker 1: when it gets colder. He either sleeps on the head
Speaker 1: of my bed or in his bed. Regardless of where
Speaker 1: he sleeps, he almost always snores, like I know, when
Speaker 1: he's in the room. And he wasn't in the room,
Speaker 1: which was that and of itself is just kind of weird.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean we were talking about how
Speaker 3: cats at the beginning, and cats are like shadows. My
Speaker 3: Alaska never leaves my side. Yes, and he wasn't in
Speaker 3: the room at the time.
Speaker 1: He wasn't in the room. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I actually think there was a Twilight Zone episode and
Speaker 3: I think it was called Human Zoo and I think
Speaker 3: it was it was a family and they were being observed.
Speaker 3: I can't remember who. Whether it was animals that are
Speaker 3: observing him or it was aliens, I can't remember, but
Speaker 3: human Zoo. As I was sprung to mind.
Speaker 1: I told this. I told this Loto like one of
Speaker 1: my friends who like also loves movies, and dude, that
Speaker 1: sounds like the end of two thousand and one Space
Speaker 1: Odyssey where he's being put basically like a human, like
Speaker 1: a human exhibit at the end of the movie, and
Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of funny.
Speaker 3: But that's right. Yeah, it was the monolith, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: The monolith was the like the widescreen television, I think.
Speaker 1: I think I.
Speaker 3: Think that's what Cuba was kind of going with that,
Speaker 3: wasn't it. It was the monolith was the screen when
Speaker 3: people are watching the cinema, that's the monolith. I think
Speaker 3: there's something to do with that. I'd have to rewatch it,
Speaker 3: but but yeah.
Speaker 1: That's always how I took it. So like he was
Speaker 1: quite literally being put into maybe not even necessarily being
Speaker 1: watched by others besides the monolith, but he was put
Speaker 1: in like a fact simile of what the monolith thought
Speaker 1: his a human, how a human would want to live.
Speaker 1: And that's why changes old Victorian. It's like just weird
Speaker 1: stuff scattered around his room. And yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's what my friend brought that up. And I thought
Speaker 1: that was kind of funny because that's how I felt
Speaker 1: in the moment, was that I was in a zoo.
Speaker 3: The idea of us being being watched and observed. Don't
Speaker 3: like it too much of it. I think that's probably
Speaker 3: why I do audio and not video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's super terrifying to think that because,
Speaker 1: I mean, we do it to animals, We do it
Speaker 1: to insects, you know, we take them out of their
Speaker 1: home and we don't think of them as being intelligent really,
Speaker 1: and we're just like, oh, we can just do this
Speaker 1: if we want. It's no big deal. They won't know
Speaker 1: the difference, and it's it's kind of it's kind of
Speaker 1: terrifying to think that there is an intelligence that so
Speaker 1: far supersedes our own that they would think of us
Speaker 1: the same way that we think of insects or you know,
Speaker 1: a giraffe. Well, we're just going to take it and
Speaker 1: stick it in this cage. It won't know the difference.
Speaker 1: It won't really matter to them, they don't know. Kind
Speaker 1: of crazy to think that that's a possibility, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess that it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't particularly like the idea of zoos rescues.
Speaker 3: That's different, you know, where animals are taken from a
Speaker 3: bad environment and then looked after. Yeah. I've never liked zoos.
Speaker 1: They're pretty terrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I certainly wouldn't want to be in a
Speaker 3: human zoo either, neither. That's wonderful.
Speaker 1: Pat, good job, Thank you, thank you very much for
Speaker 1: having me on. I really appreciate you doing this and
Speaker 1: kind of giving giving people like space to talk about
Speaker 1: their strange experiences. It's really awesome. I have a lot
Speaker 1: of respect for what you do.
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you very much. So it's always good to hear.
Speaker 3: And so it's all about just you know, creating a
Speaker 3: come from environment for people to come on and just
Speaker 3: share share stuff which you know probably wouldn't be aired
Speaker 3: or heard from otherwise. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Great, Thank you so much, man. I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 3: Patrick. I really appreciate you for coming on sharing that
Speaker 3: for our listeners. Thanks man, anytime. All right, take care,
Speaker 3: I will speech you soon.
Speaker 1: Have a good evening you, Tobe Patrick.
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