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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to report a UFO hanging in?

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>To report every thirty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you wish to report a UFO over hey, we

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<v Speaker 3>want to one of.

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<v Speaker 1>Those areas thirty one. Do you wish to find a

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<v Speaker 1>report of any kind of it?

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>Time areas thirty one me neither there.

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<v Speaker 3>See if it was anybody as above us to pass us,

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<v Speaker 3>Like thirty seconds ago, we were sending one of golf negative.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, OFFI the UFO.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'll passed over.

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<v Speaker 3>I got I don't know what it was, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>from at least to three thousand feet above us. See,

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<v Speaker 3>I passed right.

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<v Speaker 4>Over the top of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety one one.

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<v Speaker 4>You just called both to be be four.

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<v Speaker 2>They're after staying the airplanes.

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<v Speaker 4>Here to God on an unidentified object every liberty or

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<v Speaker 4>call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

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<v Speaker 6>A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share

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<v Speaker 6>their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had

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<v Speaker 6>an encounter, I would like to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 6>You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. Wherever in the

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<v Speaker 3>world you are listening from, I hope you will do it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm your host, Nick Hunter, and this is the UFO

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<v Speaker 3>Chronicles podcast. We are starting off tonight with Julianne in

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan sharing her experiences on a journey down the spiritual path.

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<v Speaker 3>Then continue in our journey, we speak with pat in

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<v Speaker 3>New York about an overwhelming and oppressive feeling of being

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<v Speaker 3>watched by some sort of entity that would wake him

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<v Speaker 3>up at three a m. Julie Anne is up next.

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<v Speaker 3>on with the show, Hello, Julianne, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 7>Hello, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>You are more than welcome. It's great to have you today,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're calling from Detroit, Michigan. I am now Julianne.

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<v Speaker 3>You have experiences to share with our listeners. Would you

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<v Speaker 3>like to start at the beginning? Please? Ah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 8>So my story and experience with aliens is very much

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<v Speaker 8>so spiritual related, and I do find it interesting listening

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<v Speaker 8>and hearing people who don't have a spiritual tie because

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<v Speaker 8>it's so spiritual spiritually tied.

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<v Speaker 1>For me.

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<v Speaker 8>It started when I had a spiritual awakening starting with

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<v Speaker 8>the pandemic and realizing toxic patterns and within my relationship

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<v Speaker 8>and myself and wanting to start a journey of healing.

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<v Speaker 8>And I lost my dog, and I think it was

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<v Speaker 8>just one of these traumatic experiences that is kind of

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<v Speaker 8>a catalyst for healing and change and wanting to reconnect

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<v Speaker 8>back in with yourself. So I found myself a therapist

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<v Speaker 8>and began my healing journey. And once I got to

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<v Speaker 8>a certain point of working on myself and my needs

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<v Speaker 8>and face my demons, I finally started to trust the

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<v Speaker 8>universe and had a lot less anxiety and depression. So

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<v Speaker 8>at some point, once I was in this place of trust,

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<v Speaker 8>I started seeing synchronicities. I'm a musician, and I would

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<v Speaker 8>go to the grocery store, and you know, I decided,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, this is part of my life. I need

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<v Speaker 8>to do this, and so I would go to the

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<v Speaker 8>grocery store and the guy helping me was a producer

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<v Speaker 8>and like gave me his card, just like all these

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<v Speaker 8>little things where these little random synchronicities of people I

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<v Speaker 8>meet happened to be interested in the same thing as me.

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<v Speaker 8>And he was releasing his single that day and it

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<v Speaker 8>was a strawberry full moon, and of course I was

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<v Speaker 8>starting down this path of spirituality and the universe and

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<v Speaker 8>love the moon. So it was just all these little

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<v Speaker 8>synchronicities that truly in the moment do not feel little.

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<v Speaker 8>It's very much so it feels like a very direct

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<v Speaker 8>communication or signal or sign So following these synchronicities, my

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<v Speaker 8>therapist asked me if I would want to participate in

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<v Speaker 8>a QHHT session, which is a quantum hypnosis healing therapy,

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<v Speaker 8>which I did not know that she offered, but I

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<v Speaker 8>was all on board, and you know, she saw that

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<v Speaker 8>I was in a place to be able to have

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<v Speaker 8>this session of wanting to heal and trusting what information

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<v Speaker 8>would come to me. So she leads this session, kind

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<v Speaker 8>of guiding you through getting into this hypnotic state, and

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<v Speaker 8>at some point she has you turn and you're going

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<v Speaker 8>to see a person, a being, you know. I going

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<v Speaker 8>into it was kind of anticipating seeing one of like

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<v Speaker 8>my past, my grandfathers who have passed away. And when

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<v Speaker 8>I turned around, I saw and again I'm turning around

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<v Speaker 8>in my mind, in my mind's eye, under hypnosis, not literally,

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<v Speaker 8>but once I turned around, I saw this mantis being,

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<v Speaker 8>and mantis the word just came to my head. I

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<v Speaker 8>hadn't heard of this before. I hadn't heard stories of

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<v Speaker 8>I've always been a lover of different things, magical things,

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<v Speaker 8>hoping of more than just what's here on this earth,

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<v Speaker 8>but I hadn't heard of manted beings.

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<v Speaker 7>Just like a classic.

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<v Speaker 8>Little gray alien or little green alien depiction was all

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<v Speaker 8>I knew. So this being was brown skinned, and it

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<v Speaker 8>was around nine feet tall, and it had a tall collar,

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<v Speaker 8>and it spoke to me through telepathy and it was

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<v Speaker 8>what I felt the most, and I will get emotional

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<v Speaker 8>to this day thinking about it. Was this intense feeling

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<v Speaker 8>of love and being so proud of me for being

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<v Speaker 8>where I was at in life and just being so

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<v Speaker 8>like it was this feeling of unconditional love that I've

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<v Speaker 8>never felt on the human plane.

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<v Speaker 7>It was fully supportive of me.

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<v Speaker 8>And again it's not even like I was getting this,

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<v Speaker 8>it's just a feeling that it was giving me just

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<v Speaker 8>like so unconditional love, exactly what people talk about God

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<v Speaker 8>being like. And it was just communicating to me kind

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<v Speaker 8>of you know, you go into it kind of looking

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<v Speaker 8>for answers, and the experience I had was kind of

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<v Speaker 8>that it was telling me I already knew what I

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<v Speaker 8>needed to do and to stay grounded and yeah, so

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<v Speaker 8>it was a pretty intense experience. And then after that

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<v Speaker 8>I kind of deep dived into wanting to research this

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<v Speaker 8>kind of thing. You know, had other people seen this,

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<v Speaker 8>and they had, and they describe it the same way,

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<v Speaker 8>with like a robe with a tall collar.

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<v Speaker 7>And cause you think for a moment.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe you're making it up or that it's just some

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<v Speaker 8>part of what you've seen or something. But then when

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<v Speaker 8>you hear other people describe it the same way, and

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<v Speaker 8>it's this thing and it showed itself to me exactly

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<v Speaker 8>how other people have seen it.

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<v Speaker 7>There's not much room for debate.

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<v Speaker 8>So after this it was just more synchronicities and I

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<v Speaker 8>had done it was such a beautiful experience. I started

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<v Speaker 8>doing meditating and other forms of healing. And also another

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<v Speaker 8>message that was in that Mantis was communicating to me

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<v Speaker 8>was nature and earth being very important. The place that

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<v Speaker 8>I was in was very green and brown and kind

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<v Speaker 8>of how important nature is. I wanted to see Mantis again.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, you kind of get in a place where

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<v Speaker 8>it becomes kind of obsessive because it's such a wild experience.

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<v Speaker 8>You want to learn more and study more and find answers,

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<v Speaker 8>and I think a big part of life is never.

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<v Speaker 7>Having the answers fully.

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<v Speaker 8>But I started meditating and I actually found this Golden

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<v Speaker 8>Mantis transmission online that someone did about meeting these beings.

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<v Speaker 8>And again, still my mind, it's being blown that this

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<v Speaker 8>exists and somehow in my subconscious in my mind, I

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<v Speaker 8>could come across that and it already exists.

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<v Speaker 7>Is just absolutely mind blowing. But I started doing.

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<v Speaker 8>This meditation by myself, and I did see Mantis again,

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<v Speaker 8>and again it was just this feeling of this time

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<v Speaker 8>like I was just meditating by myself. I wasn't under hypnosis,

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<v Speaker 8>So again there was this feeling of being so proud

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<v Speaker 8>of me, so loving, so supportive, and it was really

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<v Speaker 8>proud of me that I had communicated with it on

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<v Speaker 8>my own. Was the Again, it's just like a feeling

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<v Speaker 8>and knowing that you get super loving and touching.

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<v Speaker 7>We were touching foreheads.

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<v Speaker 8>So I also like with then research, listening to your podcast,

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<v Speaker 8>hearing other people's experiences of it, of kind of the

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<v Speaker 8>stories are like, it's not something they signed up for

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<v Speaker 8>to experience something like this, and it's quite traumatic and

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<v Speaker 8>can be scary and stuff like this, which the unknown

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<v Speaker 8>is scary, but I do. I did just find it

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<v Speaker 8>interesting how differently people can experience aliens and other beings

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<v Speaker 8>because I was in a state of not a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of fear, which I think is why my therapist offered

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<v Speaker 8>the session because she knew I was in that place.

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<v Speaker 8>And I would say, it's definitely something that changed my life.

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<v Speaker 8>I've taken metaphysics classes and really delve deep into this,

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<v Speaker 8>and you do have to, like Mantis told me, stay grounded.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's really wild because when I've told this story

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<v Speaker 8>or because I'm very open about what I've been through,

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<v Speaker 8>and I'll tell anybody because it as wild as it

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<v Speaker 8>is telling somebody it might sound like the craziest thing

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<v Speaker 8>they've ever heard, and for me it was one of

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<v Speaker 8>the most real things I've ever experienced.

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<v Speaker 7>It was so real.

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<v Speaker 8>So since then, I have started my own podcast. I

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<v Speaker 8>am an artist. I paint and I sing and write music,

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm a very colorful, colorful, colorful person. So when

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<v Speaker 8>I heard your episode about a mantis being and someone

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<v Speaker 8>describing it the same exact way, this person was also

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<v Speaker 8>very into art, just artists and color, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 8>you know again, I just am thinking about this tie

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<v Speaker 8>with mantid being specifically, at least because I know there's

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<v Speaker 8>many different kinds of aliens and worlds.

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<v Speaker 7>Out there, but.

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<v Speaker 8>Very much so like enabled me to step into my full,

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<v Speaker 8>colorful self and helping me know be who I am

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<v Speaker 8>more fearlessly and sharing the gifts that I have. And

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<v Speaker 8>I started performing my music, which is something that I

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<v Speaker 8>put off for a lot in my life due to fear.

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<v Speaker 8>I think there's a big tie to the feeling of

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<v Speaker 8>fear versus trust, just the different ways you go about

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<v Speaker 8>life and view the world based off of which state

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<v Speaker 8>of mine you're in fear or trust. And whenever I'm

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<v Speaker 8>in this trust mode is when these synchronicity happens. So

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<v Speaker 8>when I did that meditation where I saw Mantis again

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<v Speaker 8>on my own I had pulled. I got really into

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<v Speaker 8>oracle cards as well in Taro and all the witchy things,

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<v Speaker 8>spiritual things, And when before I did that meditation, I

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<v Speaker 8>pulled a card that said connect to your guide. So

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<v Speaker 8>the intention for that meditation was to get some sort

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<v Speaker 8>of message from my guides. And the meditation was about

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<v Speaker 8>forty five minutes. The minute I ended the meditation and

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<v Speaker 8>started wiggling back into my body, I got a message

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<v Speaker 8>like Manta said, like you know what you're supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 8>It's really an overwhelming feeling of validation. It's just like

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<v Speaker 8>and are just all components that make for a fulfilling life.

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<v Speaker 8>And yeah, it was just one of these moments where

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<v Speaker 8>for when I was wondering what was missing from my life.

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<v Speaker 8>And there really isn't any doubts about that, even though

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes I doubt myself, but I don't doubt the message

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<v Speaker 8>from the universe. And there was also a couple other

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<v Speaker 7>Then where I will talk to the sky at night.

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<v Speaker 8>I love looking at the stars and star gazing and

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<v Speaker 8>in general my life, but it's definitely escalated since the

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<v Speaker 8>Mantis experience. There was one night that I was out

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<v Speaker 8>days emotionally mentally, and so I was just asking the sky,

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<v Speaker 8>not just a sign, like I wanted to see something

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<v Speaker 8>to kind of, you know, why do I need more

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<v Speaker 8>validation at this point? I guess that's the humanness, but

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<v Speaker 8>I'm like, maybe one one more time, just to make

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<v Speaker 8>sure I'm not crazy. And I saw right above my

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<v Speaker 8>home this blue propulsion of light. I didn't see a

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<v Speaker 8>craft or anything. It just was this blue white light

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<v Speaker 8>that was just you know, it wasn't like up in

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<v Speaker 7>It was quite low above my home where I.

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<v Speaker 8>Was looking, and I just I immediately launched my hand

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<v Speaker 8>onto my mouth, gasping, oh my goodness, I actually just

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<v Speaker 8>saw something after I asked, and again, just one of

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<v Speaker 8>those moments where you start to through your own experience

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<v Speaker 8>realize why people say I can't explain it, but I

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<v Speaker 8>know I saw something, and I know it was a

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<v Speaker 8>real situation for me. You know, I will say too,

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<v Speaker 8>like your first thought when you had these experiences is

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<v Speaker 8>not to grab camera. For me, I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 8>sh I did want Oh my goodness, who can I

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<v Speaker 8>share this with? Who can I tell who has seen this?

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<v Speaker 8>A lot of things run through your mind, But I

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<v Speaker 8>mean I just was gasping and staring at the same spot,

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<v Speaker 8>kind of humanly trying to process what I had just

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<v Speaker 8>seen because it can't be explained in a normal, average way.

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<v Speaker 8>That being said, I'm no expert in astronomy, but I

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<v Speaker 7>I do see satellites.

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<v Speaker 8>I do see you know the pattern of satellites and

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<v Speaker 8>how they move, and I'm quite familiar with what could

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<v Speaker 8>be a satellite. I love tracking the iss. This was

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<v Speaker 8>nothing I'd seen before. I've seen shooting stars or meteor

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<v Speaker 8>So after asking or having a emotional moment, I just

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<v Speaker 8>look to the sky, and then you see something and

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<v Speaker 8>it kind of just feels like it's just for you.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just like a reassuring little kiss from the universe

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<v Speaker 8>whatever you believe to just say it's okay, got this

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<v Speaker 8>is really what.

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<v Speaker 7>It feels like.

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<v Speaker 8>And when you are vibrating or in this place of trust,

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<v Speaker 8>I would say you can just feel the connection. I

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<v Speaker 8>suppose it's not. And when I'm not in this place

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<v Speaker 8>of trust or belief for having doubts, you know, I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like I don't have these experiences or I don't

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<v Speaker 8>notice them, I'm not aware of them because I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>in a state of mind of trusting. And then one

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<v Speaker 8>other experience that I had beside.

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<v Speaker 7>It's the blue beam. I think you had someone.

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<v Speaker 8>Recently or maybe it was a replay where someone talked

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<v Speaker 8>about a blue light and I can't remember what word

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<v Speaker 8>they use, but I was like, oh, yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 8>great way to explain it. And then the only other

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<v Speaker 8>time I was looking out at the sky, and it

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<v Speaker 8>was a few days after seeing the blue light, because

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<v Speaker 8>I was kind of really geeked on that and super,

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<v Speaker 8>oh my goodness, this is awesome, Like I can't believe

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<v Speaker 8>that happened. So I was getting greedy, and I was,

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<v Speaker 8>can I see something tonight? I will really be out

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<v Speaker 8>loud talking to this guy. And I saw what looked

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<v Speaker 8>like little stars going into it at other star altis

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<v Speaker 8>I think it was. I zoomed in on it and

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<v Speaker 8>looked up what one it was, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 8>wasn't satellite level. It was further out in space than that,

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<v Speaker 8>much more tiny, and it was zoom. One was flying

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<v Speaker 8>into a star, and then one a few you know,

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<v Speaker 8>not a few feet probably a few hundred feet above,

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<v Speaker 8>went into the star, and then there was one trailing,

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<v Speaker 8>and then two and that it was very random amounts

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<v Speaker 8>of what looked like really far away ships going into

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<v Speaker 8>a planet or a star, not really like a chain

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<v Speaker 8>like starlink or a syncopated thing or an organized one

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<v Speaker 8>type of speed like a satellite.

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<v Speaker 7>It was far away.

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<v Speaker 8>It was about five or six at random paces and

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<v Speaker 8>times flying into this star. So after that I knew

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<v Speaker 8>what I experienced was real.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's almost like you can tell when you're in.

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<v Speaker 8>A place to be able to see these things versus not.

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<v Speaker 8>It has been a wild year that all happen this

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<v Speaker 8>year for me, So for me, it was super.

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<v Speaker 7>In sync with.

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<v Speaker 8>Healing, emotions and mentality and spirituality totally totally related for me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's wonderful. You know, it seems that your spiritual path

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<v Speaker 3>came about due to having, you know, these problems in

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<v Speaker 3>your life. You had this this trauma and in our respect,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, our our lives are set in a certain direction.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, we go through these things to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to obviously learn from it and grow.

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<v Speaker 7>One hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 8>I go about it saying twenty twenty, twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 8>where some of the worst years of my life, and

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<v Speaker 8>this year was one of the best years of my life.

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<v Speaker 8>And I wouldn't change a thing. And it one hundred

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<v Speaker 8>percent was something too. I had to experience a trauma

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<v Speaker 8>I went through to be able to grow and continue

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<v Speaker 8>my journey one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you go through these these situations and these

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<v Speaker 3>these times and that is all you know, that's all

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<v Speaker 3>part of growing and but you know they do make

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<v Speaker 3>you stronger.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, but they are tough.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, people have to go through these. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be surprised if you find anyone that I've never had

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<v Speaker 3>any any problems. I've had a completely smooth ride. Everyone

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<v Speaker 3>just about everyone has had something going on and we

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<v Speaker 3>just got to kind of learn from this.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, absolutely, And do you hope.

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<v Speaker 3>To connect with with Mantis again?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>I feel like it was a lot to take in,

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<v Speaker 8>and I have been thinking recently I do want to

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<v Speaker 8>sign up for another QHHT session or I've even thought

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<v Speaker 8>about signing up to be a practitioner to be able

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<v Speaker 8>to do this for others because it's so validating and healing,

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<v Speaker 8>and I think having a element of believing that there's

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<v Speaker 8>more than this life is important to enjoy this life.

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<v Speaker 3>In order to enjoy it, absolutely come down this path,

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<v Speaker 3>which is you know, which is give you an interest

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<v Speaker 3>in the subject. Did you have a particular interest in

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<v Speaker 3>it all beforehand?

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<v Speaker 8>I would say I always loved magical things, like Allis

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<v Speaker 8>in Wonderland was my favorite movie growing up. I will

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<v Speaker 8>say I actually I started in twenty twenty, like as

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<v Speaker 8>the peak of my spiritual evolution was happening. I did

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<v Speaker 8>start listening to the Bigfoot podcasts, and you know, got

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<v Speaker 8>into that. I'd seen UFO like documentaries, but nothing like

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<v Speaker 8>I'm interested now kind of just the average oh this

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<v Speaker 8>would be cool now, since it's just not something that's

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<v Speaker 8>cool that's real for me, and even since, like sharing

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<v Speaker 8>this experience with my mom, who doesn't talk about that

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<v Speaker 8>kind of stuff at all, She's like, yeah, I saw

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, what, excuse me? How could you not share this?

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<v Speaker 8>So I do think it's really interesting and grateful for

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<v Speaker 8>people like you, because when you share these experiences, it's

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<v Speaker 8>just so validating for other people. My mom probably never

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<v Speaker 8>felt comfortable sharing that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they're right there. There's plenty of people which

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<v Speaker 3>you've experienced, but you know they haven't they haven't shared,

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<v Speaker 3>and they haven't told family members. People are turning around

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<v Speaker 3>a bit, having discussions and more. I think more people

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<v Speaker 3>are actually coming into the subject now with a you know,

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, and you know, i'd heard some people say like

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<v Speaker 8>they'd seen a UFO before, but it's almost going through

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<v Speaker 8>the traumatic experiences as well. It's kind of something you

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<v Speaker 8>have to experience for yourself. It just doesn't carry that

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<v Speaker 8>much weight when you hear it if you haven't had

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<v Speaker 8>your own experience, so you can only accept it so far.

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<v Speaker 7>And and so that's probably.

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<v Speaker 8>Why my mom felt comfortable sharing, because I'd had my

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<v Speaker 7>Knowing my mom.

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<v Speaker 8>It totally blew my mind that she had seen this

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<v Speaker 8>and never said anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's very interesting. Yeah, you're absolutely right, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is difficult to share things with people if you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if they can't if they can't connect with you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because they people won't understand. And when did you get

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<v Speaker 3>into podcasts and you've got a show called The outer

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<v Speaker 3>Space with Aunt comment.

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<v Speaker 7>I do so.

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<v Speaker 8>It kind of went hand in hand with the Mantis experience.

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<v Speaker 8>I haven't delved into aliens yet on the podcast, but

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<v Speaker 8>that is the plan it. I'm starting it kind of

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<v Speaker 8>with sharing healing tools and tips for people to come

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<v Speaker 8>back to themselves in a world that encourage us to

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<v Speaker 8>be anything but ourselves and not share these experiences and

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<v Speaker 8>not follow the call our soul is telling us to

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<v Speaker 8>do so. Yeah, the podcast is a lot about healing

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<v Speaker 8>and self discovery.

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<v Speaker 3>Spiritual safe place with discussions to help you connect with

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<v Speaker 3>your true essence.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, that is.

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<v Speaker 3>It wonderful and it's available on all podcast apps. So

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<v Speaker 3>any listeners out there that are interested in healing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>go Poper Juliana visit That's the outer Space with and commt.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, we'd love to hear and share.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a nickname and commit you know it.

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<v Speaker 8>Is a persona that came through again with this Mantis experience.

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<v Speaker 8>I felt who I really was was coming in to

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<v Speaker 8>this reality like a comment from outer space. And it

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<v Speaker 8>also feels so it's my musician name as well, but

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<v Speaker 8>it feels like a way to Everybody needs an ante

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<v Speaker 8>to help them out through life, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 8>that's what I can offer.

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<v Speaker 3>Wonderful. Yeah, I agree, that's great. What I'll do is

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<v Speaker 3>for listeners, I'll put all the links below and on

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<v Speaker 3>the way lovely.

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<v Speaker 7>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>No problem. Do you have guests on?

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<v Speaker 8>I am just starting to take guests right, okay, something

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<v Speaker 8>I want to be able to discuss these topics and

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<v Speaker 8>because that is where all those synchronicities come out again.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I have gotten feedback from people just saying

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<v Speaker 8>I even like the synchronistic stuff is so magical.

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<v Speaker 7>And I absolutely love it and it's so real.

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<v Speaker 8>Like I've had someone say I was just listening to

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<v Speaker 8>your podcast and you said, how you through this healing journey.

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<v Speaker 8>I've been able to be your colorful alien self, And

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<v Speaker 8>this person who was listening was also very colorful, but

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<v Speaker 8>he said that he had downplayed it and kind of

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<v Speaker 8>just like, doesn't put that much effort into it sometimes

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<v Speaker 8>because what's the point.

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<v Speaker 7>And as I was saying.

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<v Speaker 8>Be yourself, be your colorful self, someone walked into his

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<v Speaker 8>work and the background was like, hey, mister colorful And

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<v Speaker 8>just like those little synchronicities, and also just the fact

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<v Speaker 8>that other people see it as synchronistic and share it

468
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<v Speaker 8>with me, it's it's so beautiful and that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is what life is. Life is full of these synchronists.

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<v Speaker 3>And especially when you get involved in this stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's voluntary or involuntary, these things do happen. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't really believe in coincidence too much, but these, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>these things do happen. And I always call it the

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<v Speaker 3>paranormal bubble. You know, when you when you get deep

475
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<v Speaker 3>into this stuff, strange things do happen. You have some

476
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<v Speaker 3>really strange meetings with people which you generally wouldn't have had.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unusual.

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<v Speaker 8>It feels like for me, it's like the universe reflects

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<v Speaker 8>back what you where you're at, what you need, what

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<v Speaker 8>you what your soul desires or needs to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>You can stay on a particular path, but you have

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<v Speaker 3>to be aware that you know, there is a darker

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<v Speaker 3>side to life. There's stuff out there which is dangerous

484
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<v Speaker 3>and it's very easy to get involved with. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I have done the past, but it's part and past

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<v Speaker 3>with this subject.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, and that has been like knowing I do like

488
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<v Speaker 8>to be part of healing others, whether it's through art,

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<v Speaker 8>music or podcast. That again, finding the balance and making

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<v Speaker 8>sure you take time for yourself because as somebody like

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<v Speaker 8>I will definitely absorb those energies as we do as humans.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, a good reminder too. That's why you got

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<v Speaker 8>to do your self care, cooking or your meditation, and

494
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<v Speaker 8>you've got your weekends you got to do for yourself

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<v Speaker 8>because it's super easy to be affected by that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, no matter how hard your life has been or

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<v Speaker 3>the things that have happened in your life, you've already

498
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<v Speaker 3>you know, you've chosen this already, when you know before

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<v Speaker 3>you came into this body, you made a decision that

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<v Speaker 3>this was the life that you wanted to do, so

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<v Speaker 3>you can learn from it a bit like a library.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you go into a library if you just

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<v Speaker 3>read easy books, you know they're easy books. You're not

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<v Speaker 3>learn learning techniques you know, getting much from it. But

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<v Speaker 3>if you read a difficult book, you know you're learning,

506
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<v Speaker 3>so you know you're getting so much more from it.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the way I look at it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>tough life, hard book, easy life, easy books. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think we have to take you know, sometimes hard, sometimes easy.

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<v Speaker 3>So whatever does happen in your life, you've already chose this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and it's all part of the growth.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's so freeing to think of it that way.

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<v Speaker 8>I feel like in the other kind of in a

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<v Speaker 8>victim mindset where things are happening to you instead of,

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<v Speaker 8>like you said, choosing it and choosing to learn from

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<v Speaker 8>it and grow from it, and just the awareness that

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<v Speaker 8>you needed that experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's exactly right. It's easy to get into that

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<v Speaker 3>victim mentality and then before you know it, then everything

520
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<v Speaker 3>is on top of you know, everything is grounding you down,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can it would eventually put you in a

522
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<v Speaker 3>place where it's sometimes impossible to get out of. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's always someone else that has it worse. Their life

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<v Speaker 3>can be, you know, a lot worse than when yours.

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<v Speaker 8>That's why I look at it so and a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of the times I believe it's I can't remember who

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<v Speaker 8>says it. A philosopher of sorts that says, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of our suffering is in our mind. So

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<v Speaker 8>not only are do other people have more suffering, but

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of the times we're not actually suffering as

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<v Speaker 8>much as we think we are, or we contribute to

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<v Speaker 8>our own.

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<v Speaker 3>You're projecting it, You petrolating the problem when actually could

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<v Speaker 3>be quite a simple solution. No problem, Julianne. I really

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you. I'm grateful to share, and thank you for

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<v Speaker 7>having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, wonderful. It was great speaking to you, right, Take

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<v Speaker 3>care and we'd talk soon.

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<v Speaker 7>Sounds good. Have a great rest of.

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<v Speaker 3>Your week, and you indeed take care yourself. By bye

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<v Speaker 3>for now.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Richard Sarah. Join me on Strange Planet for in

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<v Speaker 5>depth conversations with the world's top paranormal investigators, alien abductees,

545
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<v Speaker 5>big foot trackers, monster hunters, time travelers, and more.

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<v Speaker 2>The handler one day told her this whole thing about

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<v Speaker 2>how they've been terraforming on Mars, and they're building a colony,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're recruiting specific people of specific bloodlines and specific

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<v Speaker 2>talents and skill sets to go onto the planet.

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<v Speaker 5>On Richard Sarah's Strange Planet, We're redefining reality. Listen now

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<v Speaker 5>wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Pat, Welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, thank you for having.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, Thank you for joining us today. And you're calling

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<v Speaker 3>from New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I am in New York. Yeah, snowy New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Snowy, New York. Wonderful. Now, Pat, do you have some

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<v Speaker 3>experiences to share? Would you like to start at the beginning? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure? So, I think, actually, if it's all right, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with my most recent one, because it sort of

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<v Speaker 1>sparked the memory of or not necessarily sparked it, but

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<v Speaker 1>kind of brought to the forefront of the memory of

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<v Speaker 1>one that I of an experience I had as a child.

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<v Speaker 1>So last year in December, I be again. I also

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<v Speaker 1>would like to start off by saying that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>It's really hard for me to like believe in most

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<v Speaker 1>paranormal things. I don't really I'm pretty skeptical about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff, and while I do have a big

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<v Speaker 1>interest in UFOs, I don't feel like it's likely that

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<v Speaker 1>I would experience something. So just that being said, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to kind of put that out there. Last December,

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<v Speaker 1>I started having this issue where I would wake up

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<v Speaker 1>every night at the same time, between three o'clock and

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<v Speaker 1>three fifteen am, and I would just feel like there

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<v Speaker 1>was something in the room with me, or someone very

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<v Speaker 1>specifically like staring at me from the darkness right and

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<v Speaker 1>there's like enough ambient light in my room from you know,

578
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<v Speaker 1>the moon comes in right through my window and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like complete dark. I can see kind of

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<v Speaker 1>my door from my bed. But so I keep waking

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<v Speaker 1>up and feeling like there's something in my room staring

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<v Speaker 1>at me. And I'm pretty familiar with like sleep paralysis

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<v Speaker 1>and the shadow men and things of that nature. But

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't. There was never a time where I woke

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<v Speaker 1>up and felt like I couldn't move, or that there

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<v Speaker 1>was any kind of pressure or like any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>weight on top of me or anything like that. It

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<v Speaker 1>was always purely just there was something in the room

589
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<v Speaker 1>staring at me. And now this started happening and didn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop happening. It was just it every single night, and

591
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't talk about it. I didn't tell anybody about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of was just like dealing with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe two weeks two or three weeks into this experience,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a friend ask me if I, well, they

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<v Speaker 1>know that I don't really believe in like mediums and

596
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<v Speaker 1>you know, psychics and stuff like that. It's very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>for me to subscribe to that sort of thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>she mentioned that like she had gone to see a

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<v Speaker 1>medium and that the medium started asking very pointed questions

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<v Speaker 1>about a friend, and the answers could kind of own

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<v Speaker 1>the question she was asking, could kind of only be

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<v Speaker 1>about me, Like I was the only person in her

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<v Speaker 1>life that fit the answers for the questions, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 1>And she the medium told her that my that my

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<v Speaker 1>third eye had been forced open and that I had

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<v Speaker 1>attracted the attention of something that was going to hang

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<v Speaker 1>around me for months and then stop. So she tells

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<v Speaker 1>me this, and I kind of like laughed it off,

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<v Speaker 1>because that does that just does not sound like anything

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<v Speaker 1>that I would ever be willing to believe. But it

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<v Speaker 1>keeps happening. It keeps happening. I keep waking up at

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<v Speaker 1>three o'clock and feeling like there's something in my room

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<v Speaker 1>staring at me. I even had This is when it

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<v Speaker 1>started to kind of like become a little bit more real.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a friend sleep here and they woke up

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle at three o'clock. And with that, I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't told anybody about this. The only person that knew

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<v Speaker 1>at this point was my friend who had mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>medium to me. So I had somebody sleep here and

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<v Speaker 1>they woke up at three and the next day said

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<v Speaker 1>that they felt like there's somebody in the room staring

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<v Speaker 1>at them, and so that kind of like made it

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<v Speaker 1>feel way more real. And that was that was last year,

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<v Speaker 1>actually almost right around this time. Yeah, we're in January,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would have been right around this time, towards

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<v Speaker 1>the end of January, I think. And so this goes

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<v Speaker 1>on for months until maybe like the beginning of the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it sort of just started to really stress

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<v Speaker 1>me out that it was still happening. And I don't know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really like talk about it with anybody because

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<v Speaker 1>it just felt I was being I don't know, paranoid

632
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<v Speaker 1>or dramatic or something. And so one night I was

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<v Speaker 1>it all kind of came to a head where one

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<v Speaker 1>night I was going to sleep and I I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of like how to explain this. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>laying down and I do I have like a very

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<v Speaker 1>particular routine. When I go to sleep, I lay down

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<v Speaker 1>on my left side, and I have my laptop in

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<v Speaker 1>my face, and I'm usually watching something on YouTube. And

640
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 1>when it's time for me to, like when my eyelids

641
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>are getting heavy and it's time for me to go

642
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 1>to sleep, I put on some sort of white noise

643
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>like snow or thunderstorm or waves, and they're all ten

644
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>hour videos, and so I put that on, and then

645
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I turned onto my right side and face away from

646
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:07.119
<v Speaker 1>my laptop and fall asleep. Right, So I do that.

647
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I put on like waves or thunderstorms or whatever, and

648
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I turn onto my right side, and I'm falling asleep.

649
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>And just just as I'm about to like hit sleep,

650
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>right when I'm about to transition into sleep, and you're

651
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of like in that little half awake, half asleep place,

652
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 1>an alarm goes off in my brain and it's like

653
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you're the white noise stopped. There's no more sound. My

654
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>laptop's plugged in. It's a ten hour video. There's no

655
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:37.679
<v Speaker 1>reason it should have stopped. And I so I turned

656
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:44.800
<v Speaker 1>around and my laptop is closed, and that freaked me out.

657
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I sat up and I had like the hair on

658
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>my neck was like all the way up and it's

659
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of comical now that I think about it, but

660
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I kind of just yelled into the darkness. I was like,

661
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me? And then that was it. That

662
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>was That was the last time I had that experience

663
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>where I woke up at three am and felt like

664
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:09.199
<v Speaker 1>something was That was the last time anything weird and

665
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:13.519
<v Speaker 1>attributed to this had happened. And I would wake up

666
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>at three am a couple of times after that, but

667
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>never felt like there was anything in the room with me.

668
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't experience anything for months, and then a

669
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:28.440
<v Speaker 1>few months ago, maybe like two two or three now,

670
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:32.599
<v Speaker 1>probably about two months ago, I had an experience that

671
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I that I think is connected to this. It was

672
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.679
<v Speaker 1>the same sort of thing where I woke up at

673
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>three am. And this makes me feel a little bit

674
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 1>like nutty to say, but I don't know it. I

675
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of don't know what to do with it because

676
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't in a lot of ways. I don't feel

677
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:57.239
<v Speaker 1>like I was like taken, but I had this overwhelming

678
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>feeling that I it was not in my room, although

679
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I was in my bed, it felt like I it

680
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:12.320
<v Speaker 1>was like it felt like a replica of my like

681
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:17.079
<v Speaker 1>a recreation of my room. And actually before the podcast,

682
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>we were just chatting about how I love cats my cat.

683
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:26.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm like very my ears are very like acutely attuned

684
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>to his movements when he's in the room. He snores,

685
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>He's actually pretty loud if he's moving around late at night,

686
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>like I can hear He's a big boy, so I

687
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.519
<v Speaker 1>can hear him padding around. And it just like there,

688
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:46.519
<v Speaker 1>it was just complete silence, which is not usual for him.

689
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it just it just didn't feel like

690
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:53.519
<v Speaker 1>I was in my room and I was freaking out,

691
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and I my heart was like going, I had like

692
00:40:56.920 --> 00:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>adrenaline was going. And I must have been laying under

693
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.280
<v Speaker 1>with my hand kind of like over my face and

694
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:05.639
<v Speaker 1>the covers like over my head, probably for like an

695
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>hour and a half or two hours, and it just

696
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:16.840
<v Speaker 1>felt really really intense. And when I finally and I

697
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>kept telling myself that I was just being ridiculous. This

698
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:25.039
<v Speaker 1>isn't happening, this is like not real, You're just psyching

699
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:31.400
<v Speaker 1>yourself out. And when I went to take the blanket

700
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 1>down from my face, how childish. But when I went

701
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to take the blanket down from my face, there's a

702
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>crack in my door, and it I it felt like

703
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:48.559
<v Speaker 1>I saw a face in the door that kind of

704
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:54.400
<v Speaker 1>would fit the your typical typical grays, right, like big eyes,

705
00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>gray skin, And that sent me into a spiral and

706
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 1>I put the blanket back up and like continue to

707
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:09.519
<v Speaker 1>freak out for another like probably hour. So all that

708
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>being said, it's really hard for me to believe that

709
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:18.280
<v Speaker 1>something extraterrestrial necessarily happened to me, or not extraterrestrial, but

710
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:21.679
<v Speaker 1>like something with aliens or any kind of ADU abduction

711
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.519
<v Speaker 1>actually happened, because I like, why would it happen to me?

712
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't feel like, although I guess like

713
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.679
<v Speaker 1>in most cases it's not always there doesn't really seem

714
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:32.719
<v Speaker 1>to be an answer to that question. But it just

715
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:36.199
<v Speaker 1>it seemed too convenient, I guess because of my interest.

716
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:38.880
<v Speaker 1>So I kept telling myself that I was just being ridiculous.

717
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I was being ridiculous. That was sort of the end

718
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.639
<v Speaker 1>of that. I haven't had anything happen weird. I haven't

719
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>even really been waking up at that time since that happened.

720
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.840
<v Speaker 1>But what did happen like right around that time? So

721
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:57.679
<v Speaker 1>another experience that happened was I went hiking in November,

722
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and in the Hudson Valley there's like a lot of

723
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 1>like really like high mountains that have like a great

724
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>view of the Hudson River and you can kind of

725
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 1>you get like a lot of sky right there's a

726
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:12.519
<v Speaker 1>lot of like really open sky that you can see.

727
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 1>And so I was on the mountain it's called Breakneck Mountain,

728
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and I was laying down. It was in November. It

729
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 1>was totally clear sky, literally no clouds, and I was

730
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>laying there and what looked like a white orb appeared

731
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:36.599
<v Speaker 1>zipped across like the sky my vision and disappeared above

732
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>like above, not even behind, like above a mountain that

733
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 1>was like kind of like right next to where I was.

734
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 1>And I sat there kind of stunned for fifteen minutes

735
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what that could have been. Like

736
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>there's no way that I just in broad daylight saw

737
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>some sort of UFO Like that had to have been,

738
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, something like in my when you see like

739
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 1>spots in your eyes or something. It had to have

740
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>been something like that, or like maybe I just was

741
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:09.599
<v Speaker 1>seeing a bird that was flying away from me or something.

742
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I was trying anything to justify seeing

743
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.199
<v Speaker 1>that as like not a UFO. I don't know, I

744
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:18.039
<v Speaker 1>just don't feel like I would experience that that that

745
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>would happen to me. So that was It was very

746
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.719
<v Speaker 1>quick and it didn't last, and it just kind of happened.

747
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:26.159
<v Speaker 1>It came and it went, and it left me sort

748
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:29.159
<v Speaker 1>of like st there. There's I can't think of anything

749
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:32.079
<v Speaker 1>that that could have been in that moment in that area.

750
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 1>There's no sound, there's nothing. It just zipped, it appeared,

751
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>it zipped, and then it disappeared, and that was it.

752
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>It kind of blew my mind. And so that happening

753
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.599
<v Speaker 1>and then the what I was experiencing last year sort

754
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>of reawakened this memory that I had from my childhood

755
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.119
<v Speaker 1>that again, this is something that I sort of don't

756
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 1>know what to do with because I do feel like,

757
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, memory can be kind of unreliable, and especially

758
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:02.199
<v Speaker 1>when you're you know, and I was. I was particularly

759
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:05.760
<v Speaker 1>imaginative as a child, So I don't know. So I

760
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:09.280
<v Speaker 1>was playing on the edge of my bed with like

761
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>my action figures or something, right, I was like six

762
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>or seven or something like that. I was playing with

763
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.159
<v Speaker 1>my my action figures on the edge of my bed,

764
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:20.159
<v Speaker 1>and I like dropped one off the foot of my bed,

765
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 1>and the foot of my bed faced the window, and

766
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I like leaned over to grab it off the edge.

767
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 1>And as I was leaning down, I looked out the

768
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>window and there was an orb, a glowing orb about

769
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the size of a softball, that moved past my window.

770
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.760
<v Speaker 1>And I got up and I walked over to the

771
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:40.639
<v Speaker 1>window and like looked out and there was nothing there.

772
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 1>It was just it moved past my window and that

773
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:46.119
<v Speaker 1>was it. I really only caught like a quick glimpse

774
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>of it. But I never like I didn't I would

775
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 1>always like think about it, but never really like kind

776
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:53.840
<v Speaker 1>of think on it a lot. I don't know. I

777
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>would come up in my head and i'd i'd be like, oh, yeah,

778
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I remember that happened. But I never really like gave

779
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:01.559
<v Speaker 1>much thought to it until the last few years when

780
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 1>I got really into like UFOs, and then this whole

781
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>this experience in the last year happened. And when I

782
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:11.239
<v Speaker 1>started listening to your podcast more and hearing other people's

783
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:15.039
<v Speaker 1>stories about the way that they described seeing UFOs, the

784
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:18.840
<v Speaker 1>light that they emit, it really makes me feel like

785
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:21.599
<v Speaker 1>that's what I saw, This light that sort of like

786
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>almost changes and it's more ambient than hard light. And yeah,

787
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:29.360
<v Speaker 1>so I mean that's kind of it. I all three

788
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>of them, I don't really know what to do with.

789
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:35.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'm very reticent to say it was definitely this thing,

790
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know what it was. I don't know

791
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>what any of them were. And they all three, particularly

792
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the two recent ones have sort of left feeling a

793
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 1>little kind of left me feeling shaken. But the one

794
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 1>from my childhood softball sized or just I just the

795
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:55.800
<v Speaker 1>more I thought about it, the more it kind of

796
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:59.760
<v Speaker 1>reformed in my head. It just felt kind of coincidental

797
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and interesting. So yeah, that's that's that's my stories.

798
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 3>Good job, Patrick, I'm a talker, no problem, No that

799
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.280
<v Speaker 3>this this orb? How big would you have said it?

800
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:13.039
<v Speaker 3>This orb was?

801
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like it was like the size of

802
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:17.599
<v Speaker 1>like a softball, So it's like a little bit bigger

803
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.519
<v Speaker 1>than a baseball. It like moved past my window. Not

804
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it didn't like zip past like super fast. It moved

805
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:27.760
<v Speaker 1>at a speed that was definitely slower than something that

806
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>would be falling. Like it didn't look like it was

807
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:33.440
<v Speaker 1>necessarily like floating quote unquote like a feather wood, but

808
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:37.159
<v Speaker 1>It definitely wasn't falling like an actual ball would. It

809
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>looked like it was moving at a at an intended

810
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>speed if I describe it, And the light that it

811
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:49.719
<v Speaker 1>was giving off was a greenish like whitish yellowish changing.

812
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Sort of difficult for me to like put words on it,

813
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.119
<v Speaker 1>but that's how if I could, that would be kind

814
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:56.679
<v Speaker 1>of like the best way that I could do it.

815
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:59.360
<v Speaker 3>And was it directly outside of your window?

816
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? It was like right outside my window, Like if

817
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:04.599
<v Speaker 1>I was standing there and had stuck my hand out,

818
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I probably could have grabbed it.

819
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay. Was the window? Was your room elevated? Was it

820
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:10.800
<v Speaker 3>just a single.

821
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Story, Yeah, it's on the second story.

822
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay, there was definitely wasn't car headlights being reflected or

823
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:17.400
<v Speaker 3>anything like that.

824
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:22.159
<v Speaker 1>No, No, And actually the house is set quite far

825
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.840
<v Speaker 1>back from the road and on a sort of like

826
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:28.400
<v Speaker 1>a big hill. It's a private road, so not many

827
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:32.159
<v Speaker 1>people come up, and the headlights from cars would have

828
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:36.679
<v Speaker 1>been blocked by many trees and some pretty thick bushes.

829
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.039
<v Speaker 3>Plus you wouldn't be on air if it was just headlights.

830
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.719
<v Speaker 1>If I did think it was just headlights, I probably

831
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 1>would have kept that one to myself.

832
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. We all know what headlights look like. Wonderful. Yeahy

833
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 3>interesting when all that was and as a kid in

834
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 3>that house, you hadn't experienced anything strange before.

835
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.800
<v Speaker 1>No, my older sister used to say stuff like that

836
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the house was haunted and stuff, but she would kind

837
00:48:58.039 --> 00:48:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of just say stuff like that to like mess with

838
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.400
<v Speaker 1>me and my younger sister. It wasn't any It's not

839
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:03.199
<v Speaker 1>anything real.

840
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:08.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, siblings do that. I try and put the frighteners

841
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:11.159
<v Speaker 3>at you, right, wonderful. Okay, Now when you being stared

842
00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:14.039
<v Speaker 3>at in your room, been in that place a long time,

843
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, when you're waking up at three am.

844
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've been here for quite a long time.

845
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 3>You'd wake up and it was over consecutive nights.

846
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Ah, yes, yeah, it was like every night from when

847
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 1>it started. It was every night for months. And because

848
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like waking up and having my sleep interrupted

849
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.639
<v Speaker 1>in that way, I've always kind of had bad sleep,

850
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 1>but not like that where I was like when I

851
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:39.679
<v Speaker 1>say I wake up, like my eyes snapped open and

852
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:44.199
<v Speaker 1>I was awake. I was wide awake instantly every time.

853
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:47.599
<v Speaker 1>And because my sleep was being interrupted like that, and

854
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't really get proper rests I just I started

855
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 1>thinking that like it was happening because I wasn't getting sleep,

856
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was like a cycle where I was trying

857
00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:00.199
<v Speaker 1>anything to justify this as being my own kind kind

858
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of just weird brain doing something weird. But when other

859
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>people started saying weird things that that's when it became

860
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:12.679
<v Speaker 1>like more real. And then when the laptop closed, that

861
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.159
<v Speaker 1>was just I couldn't There's nothing I could have. There's

862
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:18.679
<v Speaker 1>no explanation for how that would have happened that I

863
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>can come up with.

864
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:22.639
<v Speaker 3>And prior to these months, did this happening? Was there

865
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:23.960
<v Speaker 3>anything previous to that?

866
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:27.760
<v Speaker 1>No? No, there's nothing previous to that. Like I said,

867
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:31.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've always had bad sleep, but not anything

868
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.559
<v Speaker 1>like that, and never never any kind of like sleep

869
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:38.440
<v Speaker 1>paralysis or night terrors or nothing like that. No hat man,

870
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:42.840
<v Speaker 1>no shadow people, no experiences with any of that stuff.

871
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess one time when I was like, I had

872
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:49.039
<v Speaker 1>a one of my best friends passed away when I

873
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:52.800
<v Speaker 1>was younger, and I had like a really realistic dream

874
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:55.400
<v Speaker 1>where I felt like I was awake and he was

875
00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:59.159
<v Speaker 1>sitting on my bed. But that's like the closest I mean,

876
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that happened years ago, and I would attribute that more

877
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:05.159
<v Speaker 1>to just like me missing my friend very much, and

878
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:08.599
<v Speaker 1>not any kind of supernatural anything of course.

879
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, I know you're a little bit skeptical

880
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:13.599
<v Speaker 3>to paranormal on that, But it could just been that

881
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:16.360
<v Speaker 3>maybe you just pick something up along the way, something

882
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, something clung on to you and just stuck

883
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:19.599
<v Speaker 3>with you for a few months.

884
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.719
<v Speaker 1>That does And now that I've kind of been a

885
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit more vocal about it with some of my

886
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:26.519
<v Speaker 1>friends and stuff like that in the in the last

887
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:31.119
<v Speaker 1>recent months after everything has happened, that seems to be

888
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like a couple of my friends who I do have

889
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple of friends who are very into spirituality and

890
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:42.599
<v Speaker 1>spirits and energy and things of that nature, and that

891
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>seems to be the prevailing feeling, unanimously amongst them is

892
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that I that I did, that I that whatever the

893
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:57.320
<v Speaker 1>medium had the medium said was actually the case, and

894
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:03.079
<v Speaker 1>that I somehow attracted an energy or a being or

895
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:07.199
<v Speaker 1>a spirit of some sort, and that they kind of, yeah,

896
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 1>just kind of clung.

897
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:11.360
<v Speaker 3>On and moved in for a few months, moved.

898
00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:14.519
<v Speaker 1>In for a few months, yeah, and was particularly interested

899
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:16.320
<v Speaker 1>in waking me up at weird hours.

900
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:18.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you didn't get any I mean, other than

901
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:21.639
<v Speaker 3>the feeling of being watched, you didn't you couldn't smell

902
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 3>any any smells or any or anything like that.

903
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Interesting. I don't think so. I don't think so. And

904
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:34.559
<v Speaker 1>also I never felt once that there was any mal

905
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:38.360
<v Speaker 1>intent and never felt malicious. I never felt I was

906
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:42.679
<v Speaker 1>never afraid for my safety. Any kind of like feelings

907
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:48.559
<v Speaker 1>of fear that I experienced were purely that I was

908
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 1>experiencing something like outside of my frame of reference, Like

909
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I was experienced something that was that I knew was

910
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:01.639
<v Speaker 1>not normal and was weird. And that's where any feelings

911
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:05.320
<v Speaker 1>of fear came from. But I don't think I smelled anything. Yeah,

912
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:06.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't think so.

913
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:09.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you weren't get any bad feelings, You're just

914
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:10.760
<v Speaker 3>aware that you were being watched.

915
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it just felt very I think the fear

916
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:17.039
<v Speaker 1>came from the sort of confusion, right like, why is

917
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:17.599
<v Speaker 1>this happening?

918
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:17.960
<v Speaker 4>Right now?

919
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:19.000
<v Speaker 1>What is this?

920
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've got sometimes I'll be working to the

921
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:26.199
<v Speaker 3>very small hours and I've got headphones on, especially when

922
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:28.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing editing all the audio, and just now and

923
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.280
<v Speaker 3>again I'll get a feeling like I am being watched

924
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:32.159
<v Speaker 3>now it's not my cat. My cat's usually sleep in

925
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:35.119
<v Speaker 3>my inbox, just on the shelf for my wife being bad.

926
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:37.280
<v Speaker 3>And I'd have a feeling like I'm being watched. And

927
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:39.960
<v Speaker 3>I've got those sensors on my land in the hallway

928
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:41.880
<v Speaker 3>where you just walk under it and the light comes on.

929
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:45.079
<v Speaker 3>There's those anti savers, and I'd have this feeling and

930
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:47.760
<v Speaker 3>I turn around and one of the sensors would come

931
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:50.960
<v Speaker 3>on in the hallway outside of the studio. So not

932
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:53.239
<v Speaker 3>just I have the feeling, but I have the light

933
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:56.639
<v Speaker 3>gets activated as well, So that's strange. But then again,

934
00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:58.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean, you've got headphones on, you can't

935
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.159
<v Speaker 3>hear what's happening around you, and you know the light

936
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:03.800
<v Speaker 3>could be malfunctioning. But you know, I'm not so sure.

937
00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I would I would shit a brick if that

938
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:11.400
<v Speaker 1>happened while I was awake and I saw something that

939
00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 1>like give me actual feedback that yes, there's something there,

940
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and you know you're my wife's asleep, I freak out.

941
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:21.559
<v Speaker 3>I must we give in bed. Sometimes and the light

942
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:23.880
<v Speaker 3>had come on the hallway and I'll think it's the cat,

943
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.320
<v Speaker 3>and then I'll see the cats of them. Oh my god,

944
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 3>buy my legs so wonderful. Okay, and yeah, so it

945
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:34.960
<v Speaker 3>basically it came, it stuck with you for a while

946
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:35.920
<v Speaker 3>and it left again.

947
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep.

948
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:40.159
<v Speaker 3>And I think the slamming of the laptop was, you know,

949
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:42.400
<v Speaker 3>get some rest, turn off these movies.

950
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was the kind of last draft had felt

951
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:49.559
<v Speaker 1>like I had my sleep had been disturbed for so long,

952
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and it just I was like frustrated at that point.

953
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Even it scared the shit out of me, but I

954
00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:57.639
<v Speaker 1>was also kind of just like frustrated, what is this?

955
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:00.159
<v Speaker 1>What is happening? Why is why is this happening? And

956
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I just yelled, you know, you're kidding me?

957
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:03.159
<v Speaker 3>And that was it.

958
00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:06.559
<v Speaker 1>That was it, My it stopped. You know, up until

959
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing that happened a couple of months ago,

960
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 1>there there's been no kind of no interruptions in my

961
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.960
<v Speaker 1>sleep in that way, No, no feelings of being watched,

962
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:17.559
<v Speaker 1>none of that.

963
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:20.440
<v Speaker 3>The face in the doorway, now, was it like for

964
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.039
<v Speaker 3>the crack at the door, Yeah.

965
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was opened just enough for me to like

966
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:29.760
<v Speaker 1>see out into the hallway and there, you know, I

967
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:32.679
<v Speaker 1>mean it was it was at the exact height that

968
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:36.199
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine a face to be. I really tried

969
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to convince myself that I was just being that I

970
00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:43.480
<v Speaker 1>was just making that up, that my brain was really

971
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:46.599
<v Speaker 1>just like kind of torturing itself for whatever, because I,

972
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:50.119
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it felt too convenient, because I I

973
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:57.119
<v Speaker 1>do consume quite a bit of UFO abduction information. Even

974
00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.480
<v Speaker 1>though it felt very real, I was like trying to

975
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:03.599
<v Speaker 1>tell myself, dude, you are just bugging out right now.

976
00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:06.880
<v Speaker 1>You're just having a little freak out, and you know,

977
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:09.159
<v Speaker 1>you like you watch too many movies, you read too

978
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:12.679
<v Speaker 1>many comics or whatever. But it just it felt so real.

979
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:14.920
<v Speaker 1>It felt so real, and when I when I saw

980
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the face, my heart jumped out of my throat. That

981
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:23.159
<v Speaker 1>is definitely there. That's just how it felt. You know,

982
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:24.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do with it. I don't know.

983
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:27.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do with it, and I

984
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:27.800
<v Speaker 1>really don't know.

985
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:31.840
<v Speaker 3>And you think it was connected with maybe what was watching.

986
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:35.280
<v Speaker 1>You when I was like laying in bed, kept thinking that,

987
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And really, I think the only reason I felt that way,

988
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:43.519
<v Speaker 1>or still do, I guess, is just because both experiences

989
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:46.760
<v Speaker 1>felt very I don't want to say voyeuristic, because that's

990
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:50.199
<v Speaker 1>not the right word, but it just felt like I

991
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:53.079
<v Speaker 1>was being like watched when I woke up that night

992
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.679
<v Speaker 1>and like saw the face that night particular, I felt

993
00:56:56.760 --> 00:57:00.599
<v Speaker 1>I was being observed in like a zoo or something.

994
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:05.159
<v Speaker 1>That's how I would describe it, which sounds it sounds

995
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.000
<v Speaker 1>so ridiculous when I say it out loud, but that's

996
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:08.880
<v Speaker 1>really how it felt. I felt like I was in

997
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:11.000
<v Speaker 1>an exhibit being looked at.

998
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:12.280
<v Speaker 3>And did it feel intrusive.

999
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I would use the word intrusive.

1000
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:20.800
<v Speaker 1>It felt like a bad recreation of my room. Yeah,

1001
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I guess, I guess maybe intrusive is

1002
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:23.679
<v Speaker 1>the word.

1003
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:26.400
<v Speaker 3>So it felt that you're possibly in a in a

1004
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:29.639
<v Speaker 3>different place, but the images that around you is like

1005
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:31.159
<v Speaker 3>masquerade nasure room.

1006
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you know, it was dark so I couldn't

1007
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:38.039
<v Speaker 1>see every detail. When I first woke up, looked around

1008
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:42.119
<v Speaker 1>and had this feeling, it felt like everything was like

1009
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:44.519
<v Speaker 1>out of place, shifted by like an inch, you know,

1010
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:47.559
<v Speaker 1>like everything was just not where it was supposed to

1011
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:50.719
<v Speaker 1>be or something like something was off. And I immediately felt,

1012
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:52.920
<v Speaker 1>this isn't my room, This is not my room, Like

1013
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:54.559
<v Speaker 1>it looks like my room, but this isn't it.

1014
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:58.239
<v Speaker 3>But everything was there, like cupboards and nothing missing.

1015
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:01.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, except for Boris. Except for my cat. Boris was

1016
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:05.519
<v Speaker 1>not there. He almost always sleeps in my room, especially

1017
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.280
<v Speaker 1>when it gets colder. He either sleeps on the head

1018
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:11.239
<v Speaker 1>of my bed or in his bed. Regardless of where

1019
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:15.199
<v Speaker 1>he sleeps, he almost always snores, like I know, when

1020
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.039
<v Speaker 1>he's in the room. And he wasn't in the room,

1021
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:20.079
<v Speaker 1>which was that and of itself is just kind of weird.

1022
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:21.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, I mean we were talking about how

1023
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 3>cats at the beginning, and cats are like shadows. My

1024
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Alaska never leaves my side. Yes, and he wasn't in

1025
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:28.719
<v Speaker 3>the room at the time.

1026
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:30.559
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't in the room. Yeah.

1027
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I actually think there was a Twilight Zone episode and

1028
00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:36.440
<v Speaker 3>I think it was called Human Zoo and I think

1029
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:40.079
<v Speaker 3>it was it was a family and they were being observed.

1030
00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember who. Whether it was animals that are

1031
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.519
<v Speaker 3>observing him or it was aliens, I can't remember, but

1032
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.000
<v Speaker 3>human Zoo. As I was sprung to mind.

1033
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:50.159
<v Speaker 1>I told this. I told this Loto like one of

1034
00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:54.360
<v Speaker 1>my friends who like also loves movies, and dude, that

1035
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:56.639
<v Speaker 1>sounds like the end of two thousand and one Space

1036
00:58:56.679 --> 00:59:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Odyssey where he's being put basically like a human, like

1037
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:02.639
<v Speaker 1>a human exhibit at the end of the movie, and

1038
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:04.199
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was kind of funny.

1039
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:06.599
<v Speaker 3>But that's right. Yeah, it was the monolith, wasn't it.

1040
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:09.920
<v Speaker 3>The monolith was the like the widescreen television, I think.

1041
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:10.679
<v Speaker 1>I think I.

1042
00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Think that's what Cuba was kind of going with that,

1043
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 3>wasn't it. It was the monolith was the screen when

1044
00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:18.559
<v Speaker 3>people are watching the cinema, that's the monolith. I think

1045
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:21.480
<v Speaker 3>there's something to do with that. I'd have to rewatch it,

1046
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:22.880
<v Speaker 3>but but yeah.

1047
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:24.639
<v Speaker 1>That's always how I took it. So like he was

1048
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:29.119
<v Speaker 1>quite literally being put into maybe not even necessarily being

1049
00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:32.920
<v Speaker 1>watched by others besides the monolith, but he was put

1050
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:36.440
<v Speaker 1>in like a fact simile of what the monolith thought

1051
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:39.800
<v Speaker 1>his a human, how a human would want to live.

1052
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:43.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's why changes old Victorian. It's like just weird

1053
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:47.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff scattered around his room. And yeah, I don't know.

1054
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:50.039
<v Speaker 1>That's what my friend brought that up. And I thought

1055
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of funny because that's how I felt

1056
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:54.039
<v Speaker 1>in the moment, was that I was in a zoo.

1057
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:57.159
<v Speaker 3>The idea of us being being watched and observed. Don't

1058
00:59:57.199 --> 00:59:58.599
<v Speaker 3>like it too much of it. I think that's probably

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<v Speaker 3>why I do audio and not video.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is. It's super terrifying to think that because,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we do it to animals, We do it

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<v Speaker 1>to insects, you know, we take them out of their

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<v Speaker 1>home and we don't think of them as being intelligent really,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're just like, oh, we can just do this

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<v Speaker 1>if we want. It's no big deal. They won't know

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<v Speaker 1>the difference, and it's it's kind of it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying to think that there is an intelligence that so

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<v Speaker 1>far supersedes our own that they would think of us

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<v Speaker 1>the same way that we think of insects or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a giraffe. Well, we're just going to take it and

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<v Speaker 1>stick it in this cage. It won't know the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>It won't really matter to them, they don't know. Kind

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy to think that that's a possibility, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't particularly like the idea of zoos rescues.

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<v Speaker 3>That's different, you know, where animals are taken from a

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<v Speaker 3>bad environment and then looked after. Yeah. I've never liked zoos.

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01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:56.119
<v Speaker 1>They're pretty terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I certainly wouldn't want to be in a

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<v Speaker 3>human zoo either, neither. That's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat, good job, Thank you, thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 1>having me on. I really appreciate you doing this and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of giving giving people like space to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>their strange experiences. It's really awesome. I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of respect for what you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, thank you very much. So it's always good to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's all about just you know, creating a

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<v Speaker 3>come from environment for people to come on and just

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<v Speaker 3>share share stuff which you know probably wouldn't be aired

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<v Speaker 3>or heard from otherwise. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, Thank you so much, man. I really appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick. I really appreciate you for coming on sharing that

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<v Speaker 3>for our listeners. Thanks man, anytime. All right, take care,

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<v Speaker 3>I will speech you soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a good evening you, Tobe Patrick.

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<v Speaker 3>Take care. That is all for this week. Keep updated

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<v Speaker 3>and connected with a show on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you have an encounter that you'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>share on the podcast, you can email me at UFO

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<v Speaker 3>Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can reach out

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<v Speaker 3>to me via the contact page on my website UFO

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<v Speaker 3>Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank you to Julianne

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<v Speaker 3>and Pat for sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening.

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<v Speaker 3>I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe

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<v Speaker 3>and keep watching the guys. Goodbye,
