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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the season two

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finale of House of Dragon review Sash Boys review shast

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Season two Dragon. I don't know what I just said.

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I try to say a word slash and it changed

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every time. But I am the clown friends of Bastards dress.

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Now I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you know how long I've been winning for this,

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kirklem Patzer.

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Speaker 3: They rebuilder Taylor Field.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you tell people what happening today. It's gonna

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be a good time. I need that movie to whatever.

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That's another time. I can't wait for next after night

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and talk about the patrons everything. But this is as

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I said the end of season two House Dragons, we

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got a lot of stuff going on. The next you

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get a pluffer right now because within this last twenty

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four hours you're gonna get the gimmick. Myself, David and

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Espos the Restling Boys return. We just reviewed Summer Slam,

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big event. I could say Rome Rains come back. Half

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of the people listening to probably like, what the fuck

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are you talking about? But anyways, it was a big

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resting event. SummerSlam biggas event of the second big spent

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in of the year. So check out that review that's

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gonna be dropped, and then we got this one, and

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then myself and Batman. Oh fuck, I got a huge

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guest review Crusader. It's the Batman big yet I couldn't

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believe it. You didn't like we didn't have to say

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about Dark Knight Rises Uncle and Geeks. But uh, you know,

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me and Kirkland will reviewing Batman Cape Crusader, not Taylor,

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because I'm gonna tell a very fun story on that

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review of Taylor's trying to uh trying to like just.

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Speaker 3: Have high helps that I was gonna be on it.

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Speaker 1: I just yeah, I don't think I'll tease it. It's

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worthy if you not watching Batman to tune into nonsports

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View just to hear the bullshit. Taylor tried to shovel

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me today when I saw him, and I don't think

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he thought I was gonna catch it, but he said

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one thing and ran away.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, ohh I do yesterday when we're doing the

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stream like I'm not joining for this review.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, but you should still watch it. It's

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gonna be like e vincible, Like why did why was

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one of the saying the boys, why was it one

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of the view Travis, It's like, well, I told I

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asked when we watched season on the Boys and no

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one did you know he's the that twice to me,

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you've done that Invincible and the Boys. We're like, oh,

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I should have watched us from day one. I haven't

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watched Invincible, so how can I say that it's something else?

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Then it's something else? Kirkly, you done Invincible season two yet?

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Speaker 3: Uh? You know, Well, let's make this pot Yeah, I'll do.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so there's lots of other stuff. All the

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rest of the Alien retrospectives will be dropping this week

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as well, a VP two, Prometheus Government, and the Alien Isolation.

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Like a minor note, I'll announced we're not gonna do

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the Alien comics retro because I kind of fucked that

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up because all the ones, two out of the three

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ones we were gonna review, come up after the movie.

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So we are going to do that. But in a

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did you not see that? You saw the do you

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see the Discord? Taylor?

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Speaker 3: I haven't been into Discord for oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we're not gonna do that because there's only one.

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So we're gonna wait for the next pread or Alien

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movie we'll do it then, but still four Alien retrospectives

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dropping this week. And then if you did not think

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two to any one that watch supported joined the trivia

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our GV was tons of fun. That stream is still

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on there. But if you don't want to watch the

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almost nine hour video, I recommend, of course go watch

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the match because that's a visual. But if you don't

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little longer for me to edit because that's a nine

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next little week. There so lots of stuff popping off.

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So mister Patz or what did you think of this episode?

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But also just a close. We'll talk about the overall

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season when we get to the finale, but just this

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as an overall close for the second chapter of House

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought this episode delivered in many ways and

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under delivered in some minor ways. So for the most part,

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think we had some Superman mic in the comments episode

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title The Queen Whoever Was? I actually didn't see that title.

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Speaker 1: Is it ever?

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Speaker 2: Never ever?

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Speaker 1: Super bad? Mike? That has to be. That has to

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Speaker 2: You, right, because it's never was?

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Speaker 1: The Queen that the Queen whoever was?

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it doesn't have an end.

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actual episode title?

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Speaker 1: And Crave just said episode eight for me. So I

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didn't give me a title. I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not crazy. Then I'm not crazy, then.

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Speaker 1: Crave is no typle. The Queen that ever was? That

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sounds like me trying to say, no, it doesn't. The

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Queen that ever, whoever was? How does it make sense?

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Please tell me? Or whatever was?

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Speaker 2: Because they have been. The Queen that forever was supposed

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Speaker 1: The Queen who.

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Speaker 3: Ever was some ancient medieval speak that does some language.

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Speaker 1: Man, I don't like it. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Some parts not good.

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Speaker 1: Jar Martin take that one back and workshop it he.

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Speaker 2: Made the title episode.

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Speaker 1: He didn't make that, but I know for sure he's

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not working.

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Speaker 2: On those books.

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Speaker 1: You know, get those books.

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Speaker 2: Watched whatever Taylor's watching.

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Speaker 1: You see a movie on Amazon, Travis, you seem yeah,

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to finish his books anyways.

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Speaker 2: Underwhelmed, Yeah, yeah, I think this episode had some good

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interactions amongst the characters that I've been looking for to

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them actually having interactions. I feel like some classic big

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finale moments weren't really felt here, But in other ways,

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it it like it. It definitely got me excited for

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more to come, which is unfortunate because it's like, well,

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now I gotta wait fucking who knows how long?

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Speaker 1: Three Yeah, exactly, so definitely not next year, we know

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Speaker 2: It's I think for me, it's like the most unfortunate

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thing is like I gotta wait longer to get answers

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that I thought I was gonna get this season, So

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that's always kind of a bummer. But I still think

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it delivered in many ways. Performances pretty much across the

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board were just elevated. I think in this episode compared

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everyone was pretty much on their a game. But yeah,

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it being a finale. But I don't know, I'm curious

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how you guys feel on that sense, because it definitely

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didn't tie all the bows. But by the end of it,

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kind of we're setting up for and I felt I

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by the end. But I don't know, maybe we'll I'll

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just save it there for now. But yeah, overall, big

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thumbs up for me. I really did quite enjoy this episode, Taylor.

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from this episode. I feel like there was some exciting moments,

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the episode, I felt like it was really lack of

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episodes ago, and I feel like we're just getting some

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new things that are opening up, and I just when

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episode and I pull up the time STAPs, like and man, okay,

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this is how much is left.

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Speaker 1: I did the same thing. I'm not expanding.

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trying to push this into a third season. That's fine,

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that's like you're talking about it is

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just one season.

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a well got the balloons, you still get some more juice.

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you thought this was one season. What did you think

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we'll keep it open ended in case we get that

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at any point, but they're not because the show is

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doing good numbers. I think it's four. I hope that

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if they feel the need to go to five, to

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go to five even though. So next year we get

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develpment for live action, for animated, which doesn't mean they're

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think four is like the minimum of the plan for this.

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that because that's a spoiler, but yeah, like I don't

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most people really got to be satisfied and enjoyed the episode,

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Speaker 3: I'm not wet.

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Speaker 1: It's not wet. Yeah, I feel like I'm kinda I

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don't think I'm as negative. I don't think I'm as

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negative as Tailor, and I don't know if I'm as

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positive Kirkling, but that's just going off as Nonsworth thought,

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a cool down one, where with this one we didn't

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get Like to me, last week, I guess we I

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guess it depends. We kind of didn't dial it with

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the dragons, right, like I wasn't on last week. I didn't.

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I don't know where I am with the dragons. And

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it's not just this show. It's like because I was

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thinking about this as like, well, initially the talk about

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how you gotta be trained for the dragons and rays,

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and yet da da da, and then these guys just

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get on the dragon. But at the same time, like

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that kind of happened with John Snow when he meant

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Denaris right, like he they fell in love the dragon

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kind of liked him then he could just ride the dragon, right,

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So I think in general, I just don't like the

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loures what they do with the dragons. I think many

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times they talk them up like they're very this prestigious thing,

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you work your whole life towards it, and then you

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can just be a dumb bastard who just is like

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a comedic relief character who's just like I got a

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dragon now, Like I think that kind of take. I

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don't think I really enjoyed last week A lot of

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the battle, like the War of Bastards. In that element,

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it felt very much like a It's not as bad,

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don't get me wrong, but it feels like a dais smoking,

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which I don't like. The arm of the Dead and

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Return the King, and all of a sudden, it's like

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we've not heard out about this at all the movies.

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army over there. They could win you this whole war,

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and guess what happens. They just win them the whole war,

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and that's it. And that's where it's just like we're

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really like the war they kind of win. They don't see,

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you're right, but they win a key They win a

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key battle, right, a key battle. And I still don't

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know why he just didn't take them to Mordor either,

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but that's digress. That's a bad, bad decision by air Gorn.

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But I just feel like this stuff has almost been

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like a get at Jel free card where it felt

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like our heroes had the thumb on them and then

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all of a sudden she's like, well now they they're

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good to go.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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week and this, so that's what I meant for me.

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I guess it wasn't as big. Maybe some people thought

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that was like a Game of Thrones level penultimate episode,

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and I could see that this being the cool down one.

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So I think, yeah, Mike, you said, then this wure.

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I agree. It's great character moments, many great things, great developments.

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I think in the last five minutes they show us

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a bunch of stuff for season three where it's like, oh,

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that's juicy and that's Juesy. Like again, nowhere I am

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I gonna say this is a disappointing finale or that

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I thought was bad, still good, still a pass Like

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the episode itself, I was r gonna be like an

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eight at ten something like that. I just was. I

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think I was because last year ended on such a

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big punch right with Luke. That was such a big

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and even the whole finale had lots of punches, but

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that particularly was like whoa. And this was an odd

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season where we had that, and then the premiere was

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super hot and heavy right with that loss as a child,

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and then we got that middle season episodes like tear

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Top with the battle, so it felt like it was

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kind of all over the place when those big episodes

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were happening. So overall, I did like this episode. It

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just didn't feel like it did feel like a bit

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more set up. Again. Where we talked about many times

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was like okay, we're we're I think it was like

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episode five, We're like, okay, now we've concluded there has

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to be a battle now, like whatever, we're in the war.

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Where I felt like this was again where it's like, okay,

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the war is starting. It's like, well, I just feel

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if you know what it reminds me of. It reminds

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me of Game of Thrones when they kept saying winter

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is coming, which funny enough, someone said that in tonight episode.

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But it feel like when you start Game of Thrones

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and they say, hey, Winter's coming, I would assume when

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i'm watching, it's like, Okay, winter's pretty close around, right,

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Winter doesn't come till season seven, and that's where it's like,

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fucking eight nine years later, we're like, oh my goodness,

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like we finally got to this point. I feel like

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that's where this show. I feel like they're almost always

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going to be like we're about to go to war.

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three is going to be We're on the precipice of

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war right now, and it's gonna get real bad. And

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I feel like we've seen it get bad. Don't get

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me wrong, but I feel like they're like holding back

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to that final season and then everyone will die or perish,

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and then I'm sure it's gonna be great stuff. I hope,

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you know, better than the final season game of Thrown.

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memorable episode as far as like I'm gonna be walking

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away from it, where the finale of last season was like, man,

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I can't wait to see what's next. I can't. I

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am still in that I can't wait to see what's next,

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But I'm not all I'm not leaving on the high

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I was last I want to saying year but last season,

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Speaker 2: For me with my name the you know how long

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I've been waiting for this moment? For me, that moment

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was Raniera just fucking saying enough of this. I'm just

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flying my dragon to Heronhulm and just like meeting down Damon,

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I man that scene, Actually, I had chills. I could

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feel the mana in a play, every episode, for every

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little video clip that we have in the file, I've

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felt it in that moment because I I mean, I

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guess before that moment he gets taken to what's the

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woods called. It's like the Elderwood, not the elder Wood Gods.

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Would the gods? Would he goes to the gods? Would

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we see Danny in the flash forward? I guess a

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couple other sequences.

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Speaker 1: In the flesh, like we do see her in the

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flesh and the flesh Yeah, see, it's a flesh forward.

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Speaker 2: See a lot of flesh float forwards with some in

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her three dragons, which he.

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Speaker 1: Thinks that's nier, right I would imagine so yeah, I

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would imagine similar figure, look skin color, you know.

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Speaker 2: Like the dragons. Yeah, yeah, I think so, especially especially

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because she sees that and then she goes to the

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iron Throne room and then actually sees like modern Reniera

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like sitting on the throne, and then that's kind of

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just what wakes him up. I like the intensity of

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what that's and like the tension that it had with

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like actually seeing all of Damon's armies now like Throughout

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this whole season, it's been like, yeah, I'm assembling my

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armies and then like you meet like a captain here

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and there, But like when Ranier flies in and you

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just see like tens of thousands of tense it's like, oh, man,

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this guy actually is ready for battle now. And then

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when she goes into that that I don't even know

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what you would call it, just like the Median hall room,

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I guess where all of his men are kind of

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just chilling. But I just love the intensity of whenever

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those two actors are on screen together. I think they're

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so fantastic and it's just like like the tension of

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having seen like one another for what was it episode

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one when he departed or episode two?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one was the botch slang, which I feel like,

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I feel like they kind of confirmed he did say

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just kill any kid, like if you can't find the son,

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kill a kid. Because I don't know why Helena else

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would have been in that vision. I know it was

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by a mistake, but that felt like a direct and

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I'm happy with them leaving ambiguous and not fully answering it.

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But to me, that is like, no, like you you

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still said kill any kid? You know so, and Damon

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is still dealing with that.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not one hundred percent sure that is the case,

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but I still think. I still think he feels the

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weight of the decision, even if you just can't say it,

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or if he did say it, and like you said,

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like the fact that they didn't answer it almost makes

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it more powerful. But yeah, no, I really love the

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trippy vision sequences. I was not expecting to see Helena

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in there, but but really just like the stare down

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between him and Raniera and them speaking like high Valierian

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and then he just like bends the knee and like

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you see the emotion in Raniera's face, like you even

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see it when she gets like the raven saying that

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like there's signs of treachery, and she's like, are you

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fucking kidding me? Like this is the like everything's starting

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to go right for her, and it's like this is

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the one thing that throughout the whole season she's been

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like almost fearing in the back of her mind of

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like is Damon like actually just switching sides, Like is

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this really happening right now? I actually have to deal

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with this this threat. And that's when she She's just like,

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fuck this, I'm just going to hair and Hall and

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getting this answer for me, Like I can't just keep

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putting on with this, like is he gonna do it

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or not? Like I need the answer directly. And I

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just really love love how that whole thing went. I

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like how I don't really love the whole fast traveling

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moments that the show sometimes has.

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Speaker 1: Dragon though right Season one was like that. Season one

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was like that.

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Speaker 2: Even has that too, right like near the end, I

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feel like a lot of characters jumping back and forth,

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but here it like it was fitting for me because

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she has a dragon, and I would imagine that's the

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fastest way to travel, you know, when Allison, you know,

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gets there, it's a little iffy, but like still it's

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more believable than when Rania does it, I think earlier

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on this season. But but yeah, no, I long story short,

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long story long, I really loved that whole her just

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going to hair in Hall and having the interaction. I

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felt like it was it was what I was hoping, right,

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Like I wanted him to actually see the light and

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choose Raner side in the end, and I'm glad that

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it went that way, and I'm glad that it.

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Speaker 1: It's staying that way.

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Speaker 2: You don't think it will.

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Speaker 1: I hope, But you always got lady m in there,

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And I just wonder if they start to get it

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on and Damon feels betrayed. Lady with Sorrow or whatever

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you say. How you say her.

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Speaker 2: Name right, oh, the white worm, or her name.

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Speaker 1: Is, yeah, the brothel lady. Like how they almost kissed

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a couple episodes ago. It almost feeled like Damon winning

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for a kiss and she kind of pulled away a

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little bit, not a dreg kiss, but he got really

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close to her face and she she dodged it a bit,

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So I was like, oh no, and I always at

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first he still did bow and he did the cheer,

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and that's my queen for everybody. But when he was

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talking to her alone, he did say like, oh, well,

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my brother chose you know. My brother chose you like

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I'm paraphrasing, and thought you were the best one. So

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that's why we're gonna you know you, that's why you're here.

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But I still worry. It's like like he's still saying again, like, oh,

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my brother thought this was best. So my brother smarted

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at me, so I should probably go with it, but

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it still is like that was their whole thing in

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episode two where she's like, you gotta say I deserve this,

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where this almost felt like, well, my brother thought you

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deserved it, so he was probably right, Like Vassarus was

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a smart guy, and then he did the cheer and

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that's why for me it's tough because that cheer stuff

473
00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:15,160
could be genuine or could just be Hey in the moment,

474
00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:18,200
I'm like, I gotta sell this to the people here, right,

475
00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:21,279
So I think he's turned. But at the same time,

476
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,400
damon it. You never know, but I would prefer because

477
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,000
there's much more stuff. Like you said, we want that

478
00:21:25,079 --> 00:21:27,680
damon aman fight, there's other things. I still think he

479
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,920
could be a sacrifice guy, so I'm hoping, but like

480
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,480
I said, her potentially having an affair with somebody that

481
00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:36,839
could also make him go like, yeah, I'm gonna get

482
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,920
us to win this. But after we're winning this and

483
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,880
you'll you already have what was it, Lord Alfred? Is

484
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,160
his name Alfred or something else?

485
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,079
Speaker 2: Alfred?

486
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,079
Speaker 1: The guy who were near sent to all yeah.

487
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,319
Speaker 3: And he'linked out of that fuck.

488
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,319
Speaker 1: That was a great scene when they're all cheering. They

489
00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:55,319
made sure to show him he was like, oh, he

490
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,759
was like getting away and he likes But the thing

491
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,599
is he like he put that he I could just

492
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,559
see him. What's gonna be interesting is when we pick

493
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,799
up season three, if Damon does not tell Verniera about

494
00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:11,880
that conversation he had with him, Yeah, that's where I'm

495
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,480
gonna go. Eh, Damon still sucks because then he's gonna

496
00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:16,799
keep putting that idea in his head that yeah, listen,

497
00:22:16,839 --> 00:22:19,559
I get you know, you love your wife. We support

498
00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:22,119
her claim, but right now the realm needs a king

499
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,319
and need something stable and you gotta be that. And

500
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,400
the fact in this episode he didn't say anything because

501
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,160
I thought, oh, this guy's dead to rights. He's gonna

502
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,400
tell Verniera and they're gonna kill this guy or some

503
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,880
sort of punishment. So I'm waiting till next season to

504
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,000
see what he does with that information because I could

505
00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:37,880
still talk him up and be like hey, And then

506
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,960
Damon goes to talk to Raniera. She's getting on with

507
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,160
you know, the lady, and that's I just could a

508
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,000
few bad things happen. Then he gets back in the

509
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,319
headspace of well, she's lying to me about this, you know.

510
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,160
But then he did see the Danny vision, right, so

511
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,720
I hope it stays true.

512
00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: That vision is what convinces me that like he is

513
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,519
really changed. Like I feel like that was like you

514
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,200
actually meet God and it's like this is this is

515
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,039
real and it's like, oh my god, okay, like I

516
00:23:04,079 --> 00:23:06,720
actually saw it for myself, like it's it's no longer

517
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,279
of like is this real. It's like I actually saw

518
00:23:09,279 --> 00:23:10,160
it there and like you.

519
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,759
Speaker 1: Saw the story of Saw is a Fire and Ice

520
00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:18,359
and yeah that sucks ass, but whatever.

521
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,599
Speaker 2: I think just like his body language too, like when

522
00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:23,799
when he approaches we near, like he just seems so different,

523
00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:27,000
I think, than than the the demon in the past.

524
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000
And I think also like in the back of my

525
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,160
mind is like, you know, if we get next season

526
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,960
and he's just like the exact same at the start

527
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,799
of this season, like that's gonna be a major con

528
00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:37,559
for me of like oh yeah, like you take a

529
00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:40,200
whole season of Damon being upset that he doesn't have

530
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,720
the throne, and then by the end it's like I'm

531
00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:43,480
with you, and then the start of next season it's.

532
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,599
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if I'm with you.

533
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,039
Speaker 2: Actually, I think I could do this alone. Like that's

534
00:23:47,079 --> 00:23:50,160
just getting really cyclical at that point, and uh, not

535
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,519
really a fan of that. So I think it's like

536
00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:54,559
a lot of like the vision is the main thing,

537
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,759
and then also it's just like what I've been what

538
00:23:56,839 --> 00:24:00,960
I'm hoping is reality. I think that's why I liked

539
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,519
the way it is. But what about you teeling.

540
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:05,839
Speaker 3: I mean, the vision was definitely one of my hype

541
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:07,839
moments with the episode. I really liked it, and I

542
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,079
thought that this is cool to see the white Walkers

543
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,920
in there and see Denaris and even I'm pretty sure

544
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,920
it was the battle scene of John Snow walking at

545
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,000
the Battle of winter Fell, and like the Niking walking

546
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,559
in there too, and the water like that moment before

547
00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:24,000
that when you see all the dead bodies on the

548
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,720
ground and the fire. It made it looked like it

549
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:27,720
was like the battle outside of winter Fell when John

550
00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:30,200
Snow is walking and like the Niking was walking there too.

551
00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:32,559
At least that's how I took it.

552
00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: Isn't funny that like none of these people in these

553
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,799
vision is like the reason like they don't kill them,

554
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,839
they didn't brand is the one that actually sends it all. Yeah,

555
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,279
It's just like it's just that's why I agree with

556
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:49,279
people that I wish I hope next season the prophecy

557
00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:51,359
stuff's gone. It's just about this war because I don't

558
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,119
care what the prophecy, knowing what it leads to.

559
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 3: Right, Maybe they're retconning it. Maybe this vision set like

560
00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:57,880
the real ending. They're gonna read.

561
00:24:57,799 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: The Last Jedi remake. You know it's gonna they're gonna

562
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,279
remake Game of Thrones after this.

563
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,559
Speaker 3: But I think it's I think it's neat that you

564
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,759
have this family that it sucks that they are split

565
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:11,400
apart because they're all just it's just super chaotic. But

566
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,559
I think it's neat that this family has this this

567
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,160
secret and this lineage of to protect the realm and

568
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,240
just this foreshadowed doom of the White Walkers that are coming.

569
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,319
And I just when when he experienced that vision, I

570
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,000
loved it. I thought it was great. And then it

571
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,240
just concludes where yeah, Arnier shows up. I thought, I

572
00:25:28,319 --> 00:25:32,160
love that man. Raniera's score and her like official theme

573
00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:38,119
is so good. It's like, oh, much better, jacket, you know,

574
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:38,720
much better.

575
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: At the dinner table, she had the dragons on her

576
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,480
shoulder pads. Oh yeah.

577
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: The whole outfit is just it's say what you want

578
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,839
about renew but she's got stuff.

579
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, family showed me that jacket.

580
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: You know how long I've been waiting for this?

581
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: Who am I about to make our name for myself here?

582
00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: Major dead spoilers, Yeah, no kidding.

583
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,279
Speaker 1: Jesus, No, it's all Audie, It's all no good.

584
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,839
Speaker 3: So I think the whole scene of him was completely genuine,

585
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,079
and he used pledging allegiance to her. I love that.

586
00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:14,680
That was great. They gave me a King of the

587
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,559
North moment, so I was super hype on that.

588
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: That was awesome.

589
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: And yeah, just when she arrives there too, it was great.

590
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:24,119
And she just lands to their dragon and everyone's just

591
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,960
freaking out. They don't know if this dragon's on their

592
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,920
side or the enemy's side, and so she's flying over

593
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,759
and you already see like the soldiers.

594
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,519
Speaker 2: Fuck drug being like like a fucking soldier or a

595
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,079
guard living in this time, Like especially kings landing is

596
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,000
like always under threat. They have those big ballistas like

597
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:43,240
shooting at the sky. But like you have anyone that's

598
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,880
not vaguar, even vegar, I feel like it's a wild card.

599
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,119
But like any type of dragon, you're like, is that our?

600
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,279
You just have the fucking will of Dafoe. Look up

601
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:54,720
to the sky. Every time you see a dragon, you terrifying.

602
00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

603
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see where this is going to

604
00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:02,279
lead with her him just being allies. That's kind of

605
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:04,160
where I liked how things kind of progress to the

606
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,160
ending because you see him walk out in his armor.

607
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,039
His armors is a very very bad ass like Dadrick

608
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,160
armor from Skyrim.

609
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 2: It's just ragon hearts.

610
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dadrix. So when you get to that scene

611
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,079
of him looking at his army, then you got the

612
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,559
two I guess not really too. You got the one

613
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:26,279
lanister army, but then the twin brother he's gone. He's

614
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:28,880
got his pirate army and they just all the high

615
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,640
towers and then a dragon flew over the high tower army.

616
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,799
But it wasn't Vaguar.

617
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: No, that's the brother.

618
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a nice one who's kind.

619
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's going to war, which I like. It's

620
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,680
so like all we've heard like, oh, he doesn't want

621
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,799
to fight anyone, but it's just like he's leading the

622
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:47,759
fucking armies going there. I get at your own war.

623
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:50,839
But yeah, I imagine he must get cast next to

624
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,319
whatever season because he's coming to town. So yeah, that's

625
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,119
not how Lena Helene is on her way fucking out

626
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:56,400
of there.

627
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,319
Speaker 2: You know, she's she's older dragon. At this point, she

628
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,000
is so.

629
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,759
Speaker 1: Not help me, You're gonna die, Okay, thanks sister, whatever.

630
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: Which I say. I feel like this is my favorite

631
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,759
performance by her by Helena in this entire show. She's

632
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:17,839
just kind of been I don't want to say airheaded,

633
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,000
but like she was.

634
00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: She's the girl who fucked her brother like that that was,

635
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,000
and then she got to be a little depressed, like

636
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:30,119
she lost her daughter, and then she was gone this season.

637
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,680
So I don't think she's gonna be in much next

638
00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:35,240
year either, because I feel like, either way, you gotta

639
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,920
get her out of there, right, like I know, sorry,

640
00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:41,039
get out of it. Well, I just feel like I

641
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:43,519
know that Allison's plan is not gonna work now, but

642
00:28:43,559 --> 00:28:45,480
it's like, well, still, just get you two out of there,

643
00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,759
you know, it's like whatever, go go do what the

644
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:51,240
guy like we're near his former husband did in season one.

645
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:54,599
Just get a boat and fucking run like like it does.

646
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,079
Like I know, at the same time, I'm wondering that, well, no,

647
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,519
I scratched that because I was like, the probably can't

648
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:02,839
get out of there because amen did this again? Now

649
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:05,319
not only did the people he was not letting like

650
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,920
boats go in and out without being checked, but it's like, well,

651
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:12,480
Alliston's still got to fucking Dragonstone, right, so it's like

652
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:14,160
they can't be checking that well. So it's like if

653
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,720
she get the Dragonstone, get fucking you, your grant, your daughter,

654
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:21,640
your granddad, just go just leave and stuff like that.

655
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:24,480
Obviously they can't go to her dad because we finally

656
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:26,240
got that fucking answer to this episode.

657
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what's going like, what's going on with them?

658
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,119
Because he just left, but we don't know who's got

659
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,279
him captive. We don't know who was holding like the

660
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,680
light like he was in gambling debts.

661
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did say we talked. I think it was

662
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,599
me and kurb we talked about that was the episode.

663
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:45,240
It was episode four whenever the big battle was because

664
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,799
two there's two mentions of letters had been sent to

665
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,200
him and he didn't respond and they're like, oh, he

666
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:52,759
must be busy, he's doing stuff. But I was like,

667
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:54,920
that doesn't seem like an auto thing. Otto is not

668
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:56,960
leaving people on Red. He'll be right, yes, you're sorry,

669
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,680
I'll be right there, like he would have been back

670
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,640
in kings Landing in a second again and the ship

671
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,279
of it. So I really don't know who my money's

672
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:07,720
always gonna be on. Uh, the Master Whispers. Yeah they

673
00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:10,599
didn't show him, but he's always got people around, So

674
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:13,160
that's who my money is still on, because I don't

675
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,720
see Rene, Like, what's when you're gonna do a fucking

676
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:18,839
auto high tower? Like I got your father, Like, I

677
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:22,279
think it's the Master Whispers and he's gonna have something

678
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:23,319
up his sleeve.

679
00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:25,279
Speaker 3: And shoes off, his feet are exposed.

680
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved your daughter's feet. What do your feet

681
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,279
look like? But like just because he with that and

682
00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:34,440
the combo of he convinced Vissaria's to get out of town.

683
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:38,920
It's like he's doing the long Con with the Green team.

684
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,519
So I'm saying it's the Master Whispers that has you

685
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:47,519
mean he convinced? Yes, thank you, thank you, crip, I

686
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,599
bought your father. He's just like a skelt.

687
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: He's starting to look like though I must he's slowly

688
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:54,519
morphing into his dad.

689
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:56,559
Speaker 1: Even though I think his dad probably had a better

690
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,720
cock because like even when his dad was getting sick,

691
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:00,079
he was still having sex with als.

692
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:02,559
Speaker 3: Such that burst or what aready says?

693
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,319
Speaker 1: Oh?

694
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: Man when I kiss it comes down my leg.

695
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:11,839
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you mean talk about

696
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:18,160
his own.

697
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: Cad that burns not really for Sarah's, so you can

698
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,720
put that away now. But yeah, Auto not looking good.

699
00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on the prediction. I don't

700
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:29,480
really know who else it would be other than maybe

701
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:34,880
Lady Massario, but like maybe she would have some like

702
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,000
if it is her, it would be pretty interesting because

703
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,400
I feel like she would she would clearly not be

704
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:45,559
fully like on team er Neer because she's doing like

705
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:47,319
her own plans. I'm not saying that she would be

706
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,960
against Raniera, but just like another third party. So I

707
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,519
am curious as to kind of who that answer would be,

708
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:57,519
but I feel like it's kind of leaning uh, mister

709
00:31:57,599 --> 00:31:59,799
Clubfoot whatever his name.

710
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: Is, Laris write those name now. I just really don't

711
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,079
know what is his end game is now, Laris, you know,

712
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:11,039
because it was like obviously not even Auto because we

713
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:15,279
don't know that just getting the series out of town Agon, fuck,

714
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:16,839
thank you, Egon. I don't know why I'm doing that

715
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,039
this episode. I guess his hope is somehow like is

716
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:23,079
it like a genuine thing or is this hope like

717
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,519
aim and dies and he can just bring him back

718
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:27,039
to be the king. At the same time, it's like

719
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:29,440
Arnier is gonna win this.

720
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,039
Speaker 3: Said, he knows Nier is gonna win this, and so

721
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:34,559
for whatever reason, he thinks that he can just stroll

722
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,440
Eggon back in there. And what are you saying on

723
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:40,519
the rebuilders won egg On the return this like whatever.

724
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,160
I don't know what his plan is, but yeah, Agon's

725
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,079
saying like, oh, we'll go live with the goat fuckers,

726
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,839
right like yeah, and Elver and it was Bravos think s.

727
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: Well, I think Bravos is ins and that thing isn't

728
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,079
like the Continentlo.

729
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: Bravos is where Ario went to and s I guess

730
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,960
is where Denaris is. Okay, pretty sure Asternaris.

731
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: Don't expect them next season. People just you know, yeah.

732
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,519
Speaker 2: Here, what are you talking about?

733
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:12,839
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, they are reading this season. Yeah Allison, let's

734
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,839
talk about Alison. We're just talking about her and had that. Yeah,

735
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,400
she's out out of the woods. She again goes to

736
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,319
talk to Vernier, which is gonna be interesting because the

737
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,079
book fans, I guess didn't like that happened the first

738
00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:28,000
time because I didn't have the books the secretly yeah,

739
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:29,920
and the Creyers are like, well, it happened in secrets,

740
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,519
it would never be documented, so this is again.

741
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I try to explain. It's like why not just

742
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,480
be like, oh, this is our story, that's.

743
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,759
Speaker 1: The books, you know. Uh, And then same thing with

744
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:44,599
this so it's like that one I understand more, but

745
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,680
it's like six dudes saw this go down, anders like

746
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,720
you you go away, but that I think this was

747
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:55,400
probably my favorite scene of the finale. There's a couple

748
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:57,519
other good ones. I have a like, oh, I've been

749
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,240
waiting for this, except it didn't fully deliver, but the

750
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:04,799
thing was really good. I think it's show Renier has

751
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:06,279
to do what she has to do because she didn't

752
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:09,400
want to. But that's a that's a terrible thing to

753
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,159
ask a mother to kill her own child, Like that's

754
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,039
like at the same point, it reminds me of what

755
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:17,039
we got last week where she did just put a

756
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:19,559
bunch of people locked. They still volunteered, but when they're

757
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,039
like locking them not letting them leave, like we're seeing

758
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:24,840
Raniera be like the classic targarian and make some decisions

759
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,440
where it's like, h like, I don't love this and

760
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,000
you're not. I don't think you're supposed to love it, right,

761
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:31,000
but it's like you're kind of far gone from what

762
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:33,360
you were trying to be, right.

763
00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:37,159
Speaker 2: I mean, in her defense, I feel like, I like,

764
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,840
especially just Emma Darcy's like performance, like like she made

765
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,840
it seem like it was really hard to like even

766
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,280
say what she was saying, Like she was like in

767
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,639
tears when she was like basically proposing what she's saying

768
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,159
even though she was trying to really sound intimidating, and like,

769
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,480
you are the one that started this whole fucking thing,

770
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,920
and my son Luke was murdered by your son. So yeah,

771
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,239
I have no fucking remorse with the pitch of especially

772
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,679
what everything Aggon's done. Like it's not like he is

773
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,639
a Helena that is like very innocent and like really

774
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:10,800
did not choose this, Like he's made some really fucked

775
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,880
up decisions. He's said some really fucked up things in

776
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,480
season one.

777
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,519
Speaker 1: So they did lose the grandson though as well, Like

778
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,239
I know she wanted the sun for a summit. It's like, yeah,

779
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,440
the Green Tower.

780
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: Allison gets Nier's first grandson.

781
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,119
Speaker 3: That's the analogies out of the window at this point.

782
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,599
It's just she's right, she needs to have his head

783
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,360
and just yeah.

784
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: I think it's also like like they pushed, so then

785
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,320
she has to push ten times harder to like really

786
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,320
just put an end to this. So I feel like

787
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,960
just because also the conniving way that the Greens just

788
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:50,239
kind of like stole the throne from Ranier, like like

789
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,760
all the bloodshed, all the wars could have just been

790
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,159
avoided if they just stuck to VISs Ayres initial wish

791
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:59,639
to make Na queen. But here we are, here we.

792
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 3: Are, and maybe that's oh sorry, I was gonna say,

793
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,840
maybe that's why people don't necessarily Also like that first

794
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,079
meeting that took place when Nier went to go visit her,

795
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,719
because you have her in that moment realizing the truth

796
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,679
about a song of ice and fire and just the

797
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,559
actual misconception of the Saras in his last minutes, and

798
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,800
she reaffirmed to double down on what she felt, and

799
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,679
now you have her here in another sanctioned meeting, begging

800
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,599
for forgiveness. Yady, yady. Yeah, But in that meeting, initially

801
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,039
she could have she didn't have to double down. She

802
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:29,960
could have acknowledged, she could have confessed to Renier like Okay, yeah,

803
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,519
I fucked up. But she didn't, and now here she

804
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,920
is after all that has happened, all the brutality of

805
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,960
it and Rooks rest. Now here we are and she's

806
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,880
begging for it now. And it's just I don't blame

807
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:46,239
Herniera for being unmerciful towards her because Rniera granted her

808
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,400
that opportunity already and just yeah.

809
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, But Allison was also right back then, too right

810
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,239
when she says it was too late, it's like it

811
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,280
was too late. Aimen was already scheming and aiming, as

812
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,920
we've seen any loss, like I'm just gonna go, But

813
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,840
how is it too late?

814
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: Because I mean, right now you have her coming forward

815
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,159
saying implying it's not too late. I'll open the gates.

816
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:07,760
I'll have eggon bend the knee for you while Aman's away.

817
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,639
Speaker 1: Things have changed when it's burnt to a fucking crisp now,

818
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,400
like I don't know.

819
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: A follows that that's hers because she could have before

820
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:18,960
because at the time she didn't drunk a drag and

821
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,559
she didn't have.

822
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,039
Speaker 1: To double down.

823
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:21,119
Speaker 3: She could have been like, you know what, I'll open

824
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:22,639
the gates and let you stroll. I'll make egg On

825
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:24,760
bend the knee. When she realized that she was wrong,

826
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,719
but she didn't. She doubled down, and now it's bit

827
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,880
her in the butt again.

828
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,159
Speaker 1: Because I think what's changes. I do think honestly, we

829
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:32,360
don't know what's gonna happen because Eggon is now just

830
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:37,159
Ryan with Larry's to god knows where. I think before

831
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:40,000
he got drunk on the dragon, Eggon would not have

832
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:43,400
bent the knee and relinquished the crown because he was

833
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,559
still Because that's why I think she said. That's why

834
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:47,519
I still by her saying it's too late, because they

835
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,880
killed a child in their bed. So from their point

836
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,760
of view, it's like, no, I don't care what we're

837
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,280
And at that point they got Vagar. This is before everything,

838
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,000
so it's like at that point it's like they there's

839
00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:59,920
no pitch where now Allison could have a pitch of hey,

840
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:02,639
look what happened to you? They got seven dragons. There's

841
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:04,320
a window now for her to go in and say

842
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,159
it is like we can take a step back, relinquish

843
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:10,920
this and give it to Ranier. Where before with them,

844
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,239
with egg On and Aim and having the upper hand,

845
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:15,480
there's no pitch Alison could have made because they would

846
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:18,119
just say, well, we'll just kill them all, especially with Vagar, right,

847
00:38:18,199 --> 00:38:20,480
So I feel like that's what things have changed. It

848
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:22,559
is a powerderynamic. Yeah you can argue that because they're

849
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:24,679
on the losing side, but that's why you get the

850
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,079
pitch now right as well. Instead of us losing our lives,

851
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:30,239
we could just lose our pride, you know. And I

852
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,119
guess Eggon's head, you know, he has to die, but

853
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,679
like we can, we can make it. I guess. No,

854
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,760
Allison wasn't pitching the head, she was just pitching the

855
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,320
bent knee and stuff. But I think that's why because

856
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,840
they've had so many losses, maybe other than Aimen, because

857
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,960
Aiman's just because even look at fucking Kris and Cole,

858
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,360
He's like death would be pretty good right now. He's like, yeah,

859
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:54,039
he's given up and like he's not wrong. Like this

860
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:55,960
is why I actually liked the characters. Like the second

861
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,440
the dragons started fighting, it's like, we don't really matter

862
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,519
in the grand scheme of things, right, to make little

863
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:01,679
moves and do things, but at the end of the

864
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,880
day it goes down to dragon war. What can they

865
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,960
do nothing? So even Cole has been like, we're probably

866
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:11,000
just gonna lose this. I think that's why other than Amen,

867
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:13,559
Amen will go down with the fucking ship, he ain't

868
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:14,880
been in the need of nobody.

869
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you highlighting my gosh, you were

870
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:27,079
before Aimons Kristen Cole, I I like highlighting those like

871
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:29,920
that moment. I feel like that's why I love this

872
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,440
episode so much, is we really had moments of I

873
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,480
think maturity and like it goes so far as to

874
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,280
say wisdom from like pretty much all like all of

875
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,039
our main characters here, Like I already shouted it. Like

876
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:45,920
the Helena moment, I felt like that was just like

877
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,480
a really interesting perspective that she had of like even

878
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:52,760
just standing up to Amon, like Aiman is a terrifying individual.

879
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,039
I love that sequence when he's like in tears, the

880
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:57,840
way that he's like pitching this this thing to Helena

881
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,800
and she just like pushes back, like what if I

882
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,719
don't do it? Because I'm not gonna do it, and

883
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,880
then just like leans into him, Sir Christen's coal like

884
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,679
admitting that like you know, his uh, his chasing of

885
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,679
the women really like been a curse for him, like

886
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:14,519
basically just admitting that, like he's a weak man for

887
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:16,199
those reasons, and and then he.

888
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: Just so what though, But he's like, yeah, they're probably

889
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,480
all through in that. Yeah, but all men are crept

890
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:22,519
in and like he he's got he's just such like

891
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,159
an email right now like we're all we're all terrible

892
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:28,280
people and kind of convinced. Alison's brother he just gets.

893
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:31,159
Speaker 2: Its a similar conversation that just Saries has with with

894
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,280
his wife right like, and I love that sequence too,

895
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,719
when she's just like like why are you pouting? Like

896
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,000
fucking man up, like everybody, like you know, my master's there, yeah, exactly,

897
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:44,039
like most of the loyal lines or whatever the hell

898
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,079
they said, the lord's sire is not your real father,

899
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,880
Like that's probably majority of the case across the realms.

900
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,159
Like it's not feeling bad for yourself and just fucking

901
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:55,920
go stand by your mother. Like I loved all of

902
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,559
those little moments that we have with those dude, you.

903
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,559
Speaker 1: Can write it and like just suck it up now.

904
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:01,880
You know.

905
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:05,199
Speaker 2: The conversation between Alison and Ranier as well, Like I

906
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,239
thought both of them were making really compelling arguments and

907
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,239
like Alison being at this point Ranier's perspective of being

908
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,880
like why like why are you doing this now? What?

909
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:16,480
Like why would you think that I would forgive you,

910
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:18,880
and Alison is just like, well, I didn't know any

911
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,159
better at the time, Like I'm telling you that I've

912
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:24,719
gone through all these moments and have been like thinking

913
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,960
about this stuff pretty much this whole season, Like when

914
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,960
she's going off to the woods and just thinking about

915
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,519
all these terrible decisions that could have been avoided, and

916
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:34,280
she's at this point, she's just tired and she's like,

917
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,159
I don't even give a shit if history paints me

918
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:38,000
a villain, Like I just want to go and be free.

919
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:41,800
And it just felt very human and real, and I

920
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,400
think this episode was just littered with those moments, and

921
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,639
that's why I think of it so highly. However, they're

922
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,079
like some of my cons I think would have just

923
00:41:50,119 --> 00:41:52,239
been like we're getting to the battle, We're going to

924
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,920
hairn Hall, and we're just we're not at hair In Hall.

925
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,639
Like super Mike Cat in the comments earlier, it's like, well,

926
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,599
least season premiere.

927
00:41:58,679 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: Next.

928
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: Next season's to have a lot of hype building up

929
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,199
to it. I'm sure that teaser trailer is gonna be crazy.

930
00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:08,559
They gotta have the like a Prayer Madonna epic Deadpool

931
00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:09,960
version on that teaser trailer.

932
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing I thought was a super bold

933
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:18,199
move was Alison pitching Raniera to just also run away

934
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:21,079
with her and her daughter. I was like, man, that's.

935
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,679
Speaker 2: A very similar to Sir christen A in the first

936
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:26,280
season when when he's pitching little Riniera like let's just

937
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,039
go be Fisherman and she's like, what the.

938
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: Queen, You're an idiot and you could have just done

939
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:38,039
like again another character who could just avoid everything. He

940
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:40,079
could have just stuck with Raniera because he just ended

941
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:42,760
up doing the same thing with als and so, which

942
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,760
was kind of funny. When Ranier, I like threw that

943
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,599
ship at Alison. I'm like, oh, and you've made some

944
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:49,239
transgressions and she's like yeah, and so of you like

945
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,760
don't don't even try to like ut do like get

946
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,440
the high ground on me for and like they literally

947
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,960
did the same transgression of like Sir Cole, like Ranier's

948
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,920
another one's too, but it's like literally they've been with

949
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,320
the same man. So it's like I did, like Allison

950
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,400
just like just got the bullshit, like if we're both

951
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,159
fucking around, like no one's being almost like Cole too, right,

952
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,400
like no one's really who they say they are no

953
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,599
one's being lowyal like, they're doing what they are supposed

954
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:14,239
to do and then what they want to supposed to

955
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,159
do as far as their leading or their title, and

956
00:43:16,199 --> 00:43:17,960
then they want to do as far as there's stuff

957
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,840
on the side with random people and everything. But yeah,

958
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,559
I I guess that also shows how much of a

959
00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:28,639
like Obviously they're not friends now, but the still yearning

960
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:31,199
for a friendship. They wish that was at least Allison

961
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,119
like pitching we're near, like you can just come with us,

962
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:35,559
and it would have been wild, look like because we're near.

963
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:37,159
A pause for a second, then said, oh no, I

964
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:39,280
can't do that, but it would have been while the

965
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,760
thing who just comes back and Nier is gone and

966
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,880
it's just like we're near an Alison are just somewhere

967
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:47,880
off in the woods, just floating in the lake, you know.

968
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:51,159
Speaker 2: All these bastards on dragons. He's like, yeah's been going on.

969
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,599
Speaker 1: And it's a complete role reversal too, because Alison, and

970
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:57,320
that's what I like too, where she's like, oh, I

971
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,920
studied all these books and everything that you didn't care for,

972
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:02,519
or she was the person that wanted to be more

973
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:05,440
included in this type of stuff. I don't know if

974
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,400
she want to be with Vissarius per se, which I

975
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,440
did like that emission too, where she said like, yeah,

976
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,199
we loved each other, but your mother was the love

977
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,480
his life still right, like it didn't matter how much

978
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:17,280
I was around, that was the case. But what I

979
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,440
liked is the swap of we're near a young we're near.

980
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,159
I was like, I don't want anything to do with

981
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,119
the crown, Like I'm gonna go out there, I'm gonna

982
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:25,679
do my own thing. I'm just waiting till my dad

983
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,119
has a boy and then I can fuck off. And

984
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:30,119
now look at her older, she's like, I have to

985
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:32,679
do right by the crown. My father have to do this,

986
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,280
where alisons their verse too. Now she's the one that like,

987
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:38,079
let's just get out of here and just go live. Yeah,

988
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:40,440
let's go make some pies, let's catch some fish. Let's

989
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:43,440
just no one's gonna know her name. Let's let's run.

990
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,519
Where before she was very you know, you know, had

991
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:50,000
to uphold what Otto was saying, or Vasarius was saying,

992
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:52,119
or whoever was telling her what to do. Right, So

993
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:55,599
they've completely done a one eighty both character. They pretty

994
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:57,119
much swapped places, which I think was kind of the

995
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,519
point of the last shot of the show was showing

996
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:01,679
them both standing somewhere like on a mountain looking out.

997
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,639
I feel like it's a show. Well, I'll also show

998
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,039
Allison it's just kind of fucked because again I hope

999
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:08,599
she should just run away, but I feel like AM's like, no,

1000
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:11,280
no mother, which that's where for me. We finally got

1001
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,280
that scene of them yell each other. I wish it

1002
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,480
was like still five minutes longer. They almost got to

1003
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:18,119
the point, so I was glad they got to that

1004
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:22,519
where she just pretty much said like you're whenever you lose,

1005
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:24,679
you get angry and taket on the little people, and

1006
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,280
you do that just because you've been embarrassed your whole life,

1007
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,840
obviously probably referring back to the eye, right. So I

1008
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,880
feel like I wanted a little bit more, but I

1009
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,360
got what I wanted, and they say it for finale,

1010
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,800
So I felt like that was a pro for me.

1011
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,639
Even though it was like a home run. It was like, Okay,

1012
00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:41,199
we won the game on this story that I wanted.

1013
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:43,360
But I still think there's meat on the bone that

1014
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,360
they could have really I think that could have been

1015
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,199
like a top tier season scene and it just end

1016
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,000
up being like a good you know check mark. So, uh,

1017
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,239
that's like a and I break when we're right back

1018
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,800
and we're back to we want to go next? Been

1019
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,440
quiet over there?

1020
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:04,159
Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm honestly was hoping that we've got a

1021
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:06,360
little bit more between Alisons and Helena, and Helene is

1022
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,760
like where do we go? And then Damon just walks

1023
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,960
in and grabs her arm and it's like, the crowd

1024
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,400
needs you or not? Damon? Amen, Amen the crowd? Yeah,

1025
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:19,360
Damon strolls in, which I like seeing that Helena and

1026
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:22,840
Damon did have like a a moment together. It goes

1027
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,280
to show where it's almost like Helena has like got

1028
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,519
a three eyed raven vibe going on, but she's just

1029
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:30,400
really really psychic. And people were pointing this out too,

1030
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:36,320
that when uh Corlis's true born son who was originally

1031
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,320
married to Raniera, Oh that one right, Yeah, So when

1032
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,920
it was the episode where Helene is looking at her

1033
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,159
moths and she's or cricket sorry, and she's like these

1034
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:48,960
ones don't sing anymore, and I think it was implying

1035
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:53,000
the death of Sea like Sea Smoke his rider was

1036
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:54,280
Corliss's son, right.

1037
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember we talked about that supposedly in Lord

1038
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,239
Dragon's camp bond with somebody else.

1039
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:02,559
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, so I think that they were just using

1040
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:04,880
the crickets as a way like, okay, well these like

1041
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:05,639
this guy.

1042
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: Died off screen or guy still died, faked his death

1043
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:08,920
and still died.

1044
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,559
Speaker 3: Still died. So yeah, she's just she's got the psychic

1045
00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:15,800
abilities going on. But what she had that moment with Alison,

1046
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,760
I was really rooting for Helena just to be able

1047
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,159
to get out of there, because I like her character.

1048
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,039
She's she's simple, but when she has those moments where

1049
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:25,239
she's talking shit. I liked it with that moment with

1050
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,119
Aim and where he's like, I you know, that's that's

1051
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,719
treason us what you're saying. But she just called out

1052
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,639
like no, I saw it, what are you gonna do?

1053
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:35,760
You're gonna burn me too, and yah YadA YadA, And

1054
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:38,320
she doesn't want to hurt anyone. She just doesn't want

1055
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,639
to be queen. And I like that Alison sees this

1056
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,960
younger self in her as well in this reflection, and

1057
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,079
I just feel bad for Helena and being out in

1058
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:50,360
the crowds and just being fucking like shit thrown at

1059
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,679
her and people freaking out at her, and she has

1060
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,800
no real pole, even as queen, she has no real pole.

1061
00:47:56,039 --> 00:47:59,440
So it's unfortunate, but it makes an interesting setup for

1062
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,519
what's going to happ and I do wonder if we

1063
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:05,760
will get that Damon versus Aimon set up, because she's saying,

1064
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,960
you went out and flowed to the void or something,

1065
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,960
and you just you were never seen again. That's it.

1066
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,480
An Agon was king again. So I don't know where

1067
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:16,599
she's pulling that from, because I don't believe Eggon is

1068
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:19,119
getting back on that throne unless we get to see

1069
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:20,320
Someon five she.

1070
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: Said she said Wooden thrown though, right.

1071
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 3: Wooden thrown. That's right, So maybe somewhere else in s

1072
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,559
so is he builds a little thing out of trees,

1073
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:30,400
and God's would he's a little king out there.

1074
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:32,559
Speaker 1: I feel like he's got to get back. That's gotta

1075
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:35,719
be the reason Laris is like has him waiting in

1076
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,360
the wings, right, just because like we kind of like

1077
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,400
I don't know this for sure, but like Allison can't

1078
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,559
win this because in Game of Thrones they talk about

1079
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:46,039
there's it's always just men being king Alison Raniera, so

1080
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:49,320
it's like Raniera is not gonna win this, she's not

1081
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,360
gonna end up being the queen because it's always just

1082
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,760
been a line of kings. And that's why Danny it's like,

1083
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,559
oh there are they an accept the female as the leader? Right,

1084
00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:00,559
So like Raniera has to lose that on point. And

1085
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:03,760
that's why I think Eggon will get back there one

1086
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,199
way or another, because who else would because who else

1087
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,960
It's not gonna be her because Game of Thrones proves

1088
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,360
there's not been a woman king or queen other until

1089
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,559
Sirce does the hostile take over, right, But up in

1090
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:18,239
that point it's everyone's a man, right, so you have

1091
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,239
that and what So she gets there, dies and maybe

1092
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,920
Jase takes it, But that to me just doesn't make

1093
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,519
sense because the lineage.

1094
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: But I don't want to say it because I don't

1095
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,159
want to ruin anything for you guys.

1096
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't know how that makes sense to me.

1097
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,840
Because then also like the Targarian that ned Stark and

1098
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,960
Brathy and a Lanster kill like whatever, I think he's

1099
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,599
another egg On, Like he has the pure Targarian hair,

1100
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,880
So I really don't know, like the mad King, Yeah,

1101
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,039
Raniera can't end up on the throne, is all the

1102
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:49,719
thing I'm saying. So that's why I just don't know who.

1103
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,159
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if she would if she

1104
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:53,920
doesn't up on the throne. You make a good point,

1105
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,000
but I will say, like.

1106
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,159
Speaker 1: She might sit there, but she ain't gonna who.

1107
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,079
Speaker 3: When you look at the game of where we're at

1108
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:02,000
with Game of Thrones, her line is definitely looking pretty good.

1109
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I just don't know, Like, yeah,

1110
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,119
I'm just curious. I guess Jace could die. Maybe it's

1111
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:12,199
one of their kids, like Damon and kids.

1112
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:17,119
Speaker 3: Right, Well, that's the thing, and I don't believe we

1113
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:22,239
know that they I can't fucking talk with Jay's They

1114
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,119
were putting it into the forefront, his his as not

1115
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:29,480
his ancestry, but his inheritance. I guess as well, I'll

1116
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:34,280
put it like his bastard heritage. So that's coming into

1117
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,119
the forefront. And if you eliminate him. Next in line

1118
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:42,599
is that these true errors Damon and son when you

1119
00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:44,800
when you look at things, and like I get, I

1120
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,400
don't know how it's gonna go for Raniera. I have

1121
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,119
no idea with that. I have no idea how.

1122
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: It's Goin's just gonna die in battle and then.

1123
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:56,079
Speaker 3: Those those sons that they have, and again those three

1124
00:50:56,079 --> 00:51:00,639
eggs have become Denarius's. Uh that is you can kind

1125
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:02,000
of see it your Jackson towards.

1126
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,639
Speaker 1: Which apparently I think in the books, so that that's

1127
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,000
not those egg things doesn't happen, I guess because George

1128
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:10,519
Mrtin was like, he's like, well, the books are their

1129
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:12,440
own thing and the shows are their own thing, because

1130
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,320
I think he was like no, no, no, like those.

1131
00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:17,079
Speaker 3: Aren't the records to record this.

1132
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, oh man, you said something there I wanted

1133
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,440
to touch upon.

1134
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:26,559
Speaker 3: We're talking about bastard heritage, Jase, you're talking.

1135
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: About aim Oh, that's what I want to bring up.

1136
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:33,760
It's funny that in season two both Aimin and Damon

1137
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,960
were told that they're gonna die, and like in a

1138
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:38,039
way of how they're gonna die right again, how these

1139
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:39,800
characters are linked. The Witch is like, hey, you're gonna

1140
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,519
die here in Aaron Hall, and then his sister been like, yeah,

1141
00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:44,760
you're gonna get killed and Nagon's gonna be king again

1142
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,960
and everything. So they've bought in both these characters who

1143
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,679
are similar hot heads, and Aimon hasn't had his come

1144
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,599
to Jeez have been told Yeah, like you're you're not

1145
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:56,440
winning this like the you know, whatever happened in the war.

1146
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,599
You're not the main focus here, which I think Damon

1147
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:02,039
wanted to be. Now he's not Aimon for sure still

1148
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:04,960
wants to be the main focus here. And uh, we'll

1149
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,639
see what happens because he has that other brother, and

1150
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:10,320
then I don't think he's got Helena's dragon, so they're

1151
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,920
gonna have to figure something out. But I still think

1152
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,320
like am is gonna have a couple of tricks up

1153
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,920
his sleeves because they did get Lanister got that, uh

1154
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,719
that blockade open for them, right, so I guess that is.

1155
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 3: A good blockade is not open yet, but it's gonna

1156
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,039
open or something, right, Yeah, hopefully be a battle. We

1157
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:29,039
get to see. He had to fuck all that woman's

1158
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:30,679
wives to give her.

1159
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: Son, had to I think he was happy about it.

1160
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,559
He's like, how many women wives do you have?

1161
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he looked a little scared. I don't know.

1162
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,360
I think he was intimidated by her, and it's like

1163
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,559
any why why why?

1164
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 3: I don't know why. She like she could have picked

1165
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:53,039
so many better.

1166
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,159
Speaker 1: A lot of money. Yeah, they're like the second.

1167
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: Most bastard children, so it doesn't mean anything for her though,

1168
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,920
to have these.

1169
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,559
Speaker 1: Well as you've seen and so yeah, yeah, I think

1170
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:03,400
it is literally just a genes. I don't think she's

1171
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,280
looking for like to rule land. But technically we have

1172
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,039
seen that bastards can come to play when certain lines die, right.

1173
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,079
Speaker 3: Only if you have dragons, well no.

1174
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: But just even other heritages and stuff like that, right,

1175
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,719
like they make a play and everything like that. So like,

1176
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,920
technically Jason's a bastard, but like he's still gonna be

1177
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,159
king right if it were to go that way, right,

1178
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,440
He's were near his some but he's not, like he

1179
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,639
shouldn't have all the Valerian like deeds and like none

1180
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:30,639
of that shit should go to him, but it is right,

1181
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,360
So it's like, eh, And that's the other scene. I

1182
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,000
don't know where we're going in season three with these characters.

1183
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,719
I've been iffy about it, but really I can't remember

1184
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,719
this the Sea Snake's bastard son speaking of.

1185
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: Bastards and fuck, I know where you're going.

1186
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: I I yeah, I really like that scene of just

1187
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,280
telling him just like fuck off, like because the whole

1188
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,639
season we've got like he doesn't want anything of his dad,

1189
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:55,920
he doesn't want a title. He doesn't want money, he

1190
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,320
wants nothing, and it's kind of like, okay, like maybe

1191
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,639
she's that classic. It's like a jo on snow, I

1192
00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:02,760
don't want And then when he makes that pitch, but

1193
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,440
like the same thing makes his pitches like you come

1194
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,320
to me after your three children and wife have died,

1195
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,360
go fuck yourself, Like I don't want anything from you.

1196
00:54:11,639 --> 00:54:14,159
I'll take you know, the orders, everything, but what I

1197
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:17,079
don't want is your help. And just seeing like this

1198
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:18,960
these thing doesn't really have an argument against that because

1199
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,320
he's right. Maybe it is just a timing and it's

1200
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,960
just a predicament where he would have cared for him

1201
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,559
either way. But still that I actually end up liking

1202
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:29,119
that character a lot after that scene because that, to me,

1203
00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:31,760
gave that character a backbone to show. Like you got

1204
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,199
his brother who's all about like he wants to be

1205
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,960
a part of the Queen's you know, Corey, he's got

1206
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,519
a dre and he wants a higher tier. This guy's

1207
00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:41,239
just happy to like live his life and he's like,

1208
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,880
I've done this all by myself. I would still prefer

1209
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,000
to do it by myself. Just leave me the hell alone.

1210
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,840
So really liked that scene by both actors there.

1211
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: It's funny. I knew where you're going, but that's definitely

1212
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,000
not where I am A line. Oh, I thought, I'm like,

1213
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:56,360
why the fuck do we have this character in the season?

1214
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,320
Like it was it was hinted to have some tension

1215
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,480
between the three and been rainyes, and then that just

1216
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:05,760
that interaction never happened because she she perished in the fires.

1217
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,639
But like, I don't know, I think it's mostly just

1218
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:12,599
I agree. I think the scene was good amongst the

1219
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:15,719
two characters, but I'm just just like, really, like is

1220
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,400
this it is this? It like like going forward? Are

1221
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,039
we gonna keep following this character? And like his journey now?

1222
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: I think so he's a he's part of the war

1223
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,559
now right, he's with the sea snakes. I feel like

1224
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:28,440
they're gonna have he's gonna be lean some ships.

1225
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: So I think I think it. I think it just

1226
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,519
bummed me because it took away screen time throughout the

1227
00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:35,280
entire season for these moments when I could have had

1228
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,039
it with other characters that I was more interested in,

1229
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:41,400
so that I just wasn't really satisfied with that. But

1230
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,360
you do bring up some good points, and I do

1231
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:49,360
agree Superman Mike in the chat said his name is Adam. Oh, yeah,

1232
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,519
I his brother's Adam Adam.

1233
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: Which totally off topic. I forgot to bring this up

1234
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,239
during gold Geeks twenty twelve, but I'm gonna forget about

1235
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,559
so I'm gonna make it record here, Taylor, did you

1236
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:02,760
catch one? The character's name in American Mary was named Alan,

1237
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:08,840
doctor Alan Grant. Go IMDb this and then about off air,

1238
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:11,559
but someone said doctor Alan Grant. I was like, what

1239
00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:13,960
the fuck? But yeah, okay, Alan Adam.

1240
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so same canon.

1241
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I don't even see this. No him, he's

1242
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:20,639
Alan Grant.

1243
00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: Oh is it the dad doctor the assaulter? Yeah? Oh damn.

1244
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,840
The apple far very fell, very far from the tree.

1245
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 3: There by my boy Samuel Dirty.

1246
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a little go check out the twenty twelve

1247
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,079
Golden Keys coming out. We talk about American Mary. But yeah,

1248
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,719
I agree with you, kirking More. I don't know what

1249
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,840
more is left. But that's where this to me is

1250
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,519
kind of like I liked as an end point to

1251
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,119
the story. But at the same time, it's not like

1252
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,159
it won me over for all the rest of the show.

1253
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,000
But I do think he will be around next year

1254
00:56:53,199 --> 00:56:55,960
or whatever next season and me and because his brother

1255
00:56:56,039 --> 00:56:58,440
is still around, right, so he has ties to multiple characters.

1256
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,360
Now you know his dad he's thinking of his brother

1257
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,000
is gonna hopefully become a night. So I feel like

1258
00:57:03,079 --> 00:57:05,119
there's lots of things that could be done there and

1259
00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:07,199
also shout out, because I'll forget shout out to like

1260
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,880
the comedic bastard who has a dragon. I think the

1261
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,159
actor's doing some great comedic timing work, like when he

1262
00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:14,480
sees Oh, Jays, you're the like, he's mouthed off like

1263
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:16,159
what do you think boy? And then well, this is

1264
00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:18,119
the prince. I mean, he gets his feet off the table,

1265
00:57:18,199 --> 00:57:20,159
runs over and hugs him. He's like, oh, I've heard

1266
00:57:20,159 --> 00:57:22,199
about your hair being so black, which is like, I'm

1267
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:25,480
sure Jason doesn't like that as a compliment, but I

1268
00:57:25,519 --> 00:57:27,239
think that bad. I can't remember his name, but the

1269
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,280
bastard who is the more comedic one's right, yeah, ulf

1270
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:34,360
I'm enjoying the actor and I think how much he

1271
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,920
was in it tonight is like the right amount. I

1272
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,840
don't think you want to overdo it with him, so.

1273
00:57:39,159 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: I think it was a couple of tablespoons too much

1274
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:46,159
for me. Yeah, I I appreciated the dynamic shift of

1275
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:48,480
having a character like that that it just has never

1276
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:52,440
lived a life of like luxury or like in royal prisence.

1277
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,719
I think it was just one two scenes too, Like

1278
00:57:56,239 --> 00:57:59,039
the dinner sequence. I was just kind of cringing when

1279
00:57:59,159 --> 00:58:01,840
Rainier's I think I just respect for near too much

1280
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,559
and like, throw some damn respect on your under name

1281
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:06,000
and come on, man, just trying to tell a toast

1282
00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:11,400
and he's just being obnoxious. But dragon tongue there you go.

1283
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not a I like the character back

1284
00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:17,480
when he was in the tavern, and I like the

1285
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,079
the other wiser.

1286
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,119
Speaker 2: Targari yet the blacksmith guy, right, Yeah.

1287
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: He's definitely super awesome. He's apologizing. He does not have

1288
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,960
the manners of quote and all that stuff. But I

1289
00:58:28,239 --> 00:58:32,599
think that olf is his humor works just a little bit.

1290
00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:34,559
But for the most part, I really don't like the

1291
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,480
just banging it your head against it again and again

1292
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:40,800
and again, the same humor. I just ever since we

1293
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,840
got it with Jas, that was it. I could I

1294
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,079
could laugh at that, That's fine, but then consistently going

1295
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:47,119
throughout the dinner time again and again and again the

1296
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:49,480
same thing, even at the end when he's just calling

1297
00:58:49,559 --> 00:58:51,079
him out, like oh you need a little more humor

1298
00:58:51,079 --> 00:58:53,679
in here or whatnot. This is not the crowd to

1299
00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:55,719
do that, and it's it's tense too. It makes me

1300
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,719
wonder what's gonna happen because when he throws that quick

1301
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,639
line of shade towards her, you see the guards kind

1302
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:04,840
of blurred in the background where one steps forward and

1303
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,239
pulls his sword up a little bit like to heel.

1304
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,079
Speaker 1: He didn't say after it was a joke though, right,

1305
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,480
you know he's like, oh, no, you guys have humor here.

1306
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:15,559
So I don't think he was actually because he was like, oh,

1307
00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:17,559
she said some lying like all you have to do this,

1308
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:18,960
and he's like, well, i'll do it when you make

1309
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,800
me a night. But I did think he's just like

1310
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,639
a guy that sticks his foot in his mouth. But

1311
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,719
he's not gonna be long for this world, I don't

1312
00:59:25,719 --> 00:59:31,519
think so. No, yeah, yeah, anything else we haven't touched

1313
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:35,159
upon character wise or scene wise.

1314
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,079
Speaker 2: Brother, I was going, he's getting chummy with Sir Kristen

1315
00:59:44,119 --> 00:59:44,559
at the end.

1316
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: I didn't like how that scene played out. I like

1317
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,920
Cole's monologue, but it was just very random. Haven't checked

1318
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,599
in with him in two three episodes, and just like

1319
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,320
you're fucking my sister and you're gonna minute and you're

1320
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,400
gonna go to the wall and everything. He's like, yeah,

1321
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,239
I am, and then he gives a spiel. So I

1322
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:00,920
like the spiel. I just thought that set up was

1323
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,760
weird also to do in front of all the guards

1324
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,840
and everyone's just like, watched this go down. It's supposed

1325
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,639
to be okay. So I was fifty to fifty on

1326
01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:10,880
that scene. So and a fifty to fifty on Allison's

1327
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,840
brother is still too I need more from that character.

1328
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:20,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's been as satisfying as I

1329
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:21,920
thought it was going to be to have him in here.

1330
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,159
I thought he was going to be a lot more

1331
01:00:23,159 --> 01:00:27,079
of a wild card might be an extreme word for him,

1332
01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:29,960
but just like like someone that really shakes up the

1333
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:35,239
dynamic of like Kristin Cole. I guess since his inclusion

1334
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,239
into this show so far, like we had the Rooks

1335
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,440
Rest battle and Sir Christen just hasn't been the same

1336
01:00:41,639 --> 01:00:44,360
since then. So I think I was needing a character

1337
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,639
to get Kristin Cole into a place like that, but

1338
01:00:46,679 --> 01:00:48,559
because that event happened, it's like, Okay, I guess we

1339
01:00:48,639 --> 01:00:52,679
just don't really need Allison's brother here, So I don't know.

1340
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,920
I'm hesitant to say it's a waste of a new character,

1341
01:00:56,039 --> 01:00:59,280
but hopefully some more stuff happens. But I don't know

1342
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,679
for how they ended off here. It just I don't

1343
01:01:01,679 --> 01:01:04,920
see anything really interesting or crazy happening, I guess unless

1344
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:08,960
Auto comes into play and see what that dynamic would

1345
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,960
be amongst those two. Dad locked up, you know, because

1346
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,159
he's already got daddy issues, it seems right, he's always

1347
01:01:14,159 --> 01:01:18,239
been jealous of Alison, kind of being Auto's favorite. Mm hmm.

1348
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,159
Speaker 1: Super Mike says about that comedic other turn to make

1349
01:01:21,239 --> 01:01:23,280
him the Braun of the show. Well, he'll know, be Braun.

1350
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,159
Braun is fucking phenomenal, So that's always so good. Yeah,

1351
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:29,960
that ain't gonna happen, but uh, you know, I like

1352
01:01:30,039 --> 01:01:31,480
him enough still for me.

1353
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: Like the most comedy I think in this entire season

1354
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,920
was actually the Lanister guy with with that chick. I

1355
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,639
just wasn't expecting it to be so funny, and I

1356
01:01:41,679 --> 01:01:43,880
felt like his whole moment was. It was just like

1357
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:48,719
a comedic breath for especially just like thinking about like

1358
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,960
episode one, we got like a child get decapitated to

1359
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:55,199
like at the end the finale of that very same season,

1360
01:01:55,239 --> 01:01:57,679
I'm like laughing over this guy just doing mud fights

1361
01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:02,280
with this chick, and uh yeah, she just wants his jeans.

1362
01:02:03,519 --> 01:02:05,480
I thought she was she aways wanted getting pregnant. And

1363
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,639
then she's like, well you sleep with my wives.

1364
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,039
Speaker 1: Yeah that was good. You know, it looks like she's

1365
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:16,679
getting her dragon right. Finally that's something where it's like,

1366
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:19,199
you know what, just give me two scenes in the

1367
01:02:19,239 --> 01:02:21,760
finale that was way too drawn out. I just I

1368
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,880
just felt like that was a waste for me. It's like,

1369
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,519
I got it yet, we're doing but I don't need

1370
01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:27,599
to see her sleeping. And the next thing, she's walking

1371
01:02:27,679 --> 01:02:28,519
and running.

1372
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,519
Speaker 3: Just like inhaling water from the river, just about to die.

1373
01:02:33,239 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: That acting when she sees the dragon kind of made

1374
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,880
me laugh too. She just looked like I don't know,

1375
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,800
I don't know, like she's in a drenochrome or something.

1376
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:45,440
Just just reaction was like too too much. But uh

1377
01:02:46,039 --> 01:02:50,280
so that dragon dud, Like do we know that dragon?

1378
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,000
Because I was talking to someone at work about this

1379
01:02:52,119 --> 01:02:54,880
and I don't know if it's like a spoiler or something,

1380
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,000
but like what this dragon might be? Do you guys

1381
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:58,679
know anything?

1382
01:02:59,519 --> 01:03:01,719
Speaker 1: No? This is just like a random dragon.

1383
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:04,559
Speaker 2: Well, like I was told, I don't know if this

1384
01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:06,920
is legit, but it's like the theory that I heard

1385
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,679
with that this is actually egg On the Conqueror's dragon,

1386
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,079
like the egg On the Conqueror and then he's just

1387
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:17,239
been fucking off ever since Eggon died. He looked pretty

1388
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,440
charred like that dragon. Actually, he looked like someone that

1389
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,119
had been on the barbecue a little bit too long.

1390
01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:26,440
But I don't know, I am curious to.

1391
01:03:26,679 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: What, like, like, like, egg On, what.

1392
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,519
Speaker 2: Do you got for me? Okay, yeah, very curly little

1393
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:36,039
fingernails he's got there.

1394
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, what he does look pretty charred.

1395
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,719
Speaker 2: But in some battles I think I'm I think what

1396
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,679
you said, Travis, it's like a bit of a waste

1397
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of her just being like, there's a dragon around these pots.

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Then it's like, Okay, I know what's gonna happen here,

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And then what we get wasn't super satisfying. But I

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01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:57,480
think I'm just more so excited to see her be

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01:03:57,639 --> 01:03:59,880
more included in the show, because she's really been on

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01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:04,760
the back burner this season. But dragons always good.

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01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:07,239
Speaker 3: They're in the book, the Fire and Blood Book. There

1404
01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:11,639
are three known wild dragons that fly around Dragonstone, Gregos

1405
01:04:11,719 --> 01:04:13,760
the Cannibal and sheep Stealer, and this is supposed to

1406
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,880
be sheep Stealer apparently. Okay, so there's some two other

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01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,199
dragons that are wild and flying around.

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Speaker 2: The person's lying, yeah, there you go tell them beat

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01:04:23,199 --> 01:04:23,840
them up on one.

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01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,239
Speaker 3: Day conquers fucking dragon, which I'm pretty sure Eggons dragon

1411
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,239
was like the biggest one, isn't that like the skull

1412
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,280
that's in King's landing.

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Speaker 1: I thought it might be.

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01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,119
Speaker 2: That makes more sense because when I saw it, I'm like, really, Eggon,

1415
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,480
Like that's that's the best you got, egg On the conqueror,

1416
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,239
that's what he's got.

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01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,039
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, that is Baleri and the Dread. That's Eggons.

1418
01:04:44,159 --> 01:04:46,119
Oh okay, dragon, that's the Salling Kings.

1419
01:04:46,239 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: And like they were making a big point of emphasis

1420
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,559
that like there was a massive dragon like in in

1421
01:04:51,679 --> 01:04:54,760
the wild that they're insinuating. Was this dragon? It didn't

1422
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,400
seem I mean it's a dragon, but didn't seem as

1423
01:04:57,519 --> 01:05:01,320
large as some other ones we've seen stuff to compare

1424
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,039
when you've seen Vega, I guess yeah.

1425
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: Other than that, yeah, I don't think I have anything else,

1426
01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:11,400
nothing pressing.

1427
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:16,519
Speaker 3: Do I have anything else, I don't think so.

1428
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got notes.

1429
01:05:21,159 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right.

1430
01:05:26,199 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: I will give this whole season an eight out of ten.

1431
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:32,960
Think some big highs, great character moments, great acting, great writing. Overall,

1432
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,440
I think there's some patiing issues here and there some

1433
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,480
moments that, as we talked about, whether it's this episode

1434
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:39,239
or other episodes in the past, it didn't quite work

1435
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,920
for me. And yeah, like I said, I think it

1436
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:46,800
was a good finale, but not oh this again they

1437
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,280
I'll walk it back. Good episode. Don't know if it's

1438
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,199
a good finale in the sense of just leaving you,

1439
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,239
like just dying for more. But because of their track

1440
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,280
record right now, of course I'll be there for season

1441
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,239
three and I'm very excited for it. But yeah, I

1442
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,360
think season one, I think I gave like a nine

1443
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:04,360
or nine point five. I think my problem was season one,

1444
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,119
as I said before, was like we skipped over a lot,

1445
01:06:07,199 --> 01:06:08,719
and there was many times where I just felt, hey,

1446
01:06:08,719 --> 01:06:11,320
we could have gone two to three seasons of just

1447
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,559
this timeframe, and they went very fast, and I think

1448
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:16,400
sometimes that hurt the show. Where this I don't think

1449
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:17,920
this had that as much. But I don't think this

1450
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,920
one was as strong or has as strong moments as

1451
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,639
that one. I think there was a couple episodes that

1452
01:06:23,239 --> 01:06:26,519
usually I think there's always a good episode in or sorry,

1453
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:28,480
a good moment in an episode. Don't get me wrong,

1454
01:06:28,519 --> 01:06:31,599
but I just think season one stands out more of

1455
01:06:31,639 --> 01:06:33,840
Almost every week I was like on the edge of

1456
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,719
my seat, where are there some seats? Some week I

1457
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,079
was like comfortably seated in my seat, you know, sit back.

1458
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,000
I didn't have a problem with it, but I can

1459
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,840
see why some people had a problem with like Damon's storyline,

1460
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,360
because it is like the hopefully resolution to him being

1461
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,679
on her side. But I saw that as the most complaint.

1462
01:06:49,719 --> 01:06:52,719
I just get him out of this fucking castle already, man.

1463
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,960
So yeah, an eight had ten for me for this season.

1464
01:06:57,639 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 2: I agree. I think I'm gonna give of this season

1465
01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:05,280
eight out of ten as well. I a little bit

1466
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,199
of a letdown compared to what Season one had, especially

1467
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,000
just like coming off of Game of Thrones and the

1468
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,360
sourness of how that show ended for me, and then

1469
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,800
coming to the show, it's like, Okay, I like the trailers,

1470
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,119
but like, really, like can they can they recapture the

1471
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:21,719
Game of Thrones isms and all the highs that that

1472
01:07:21,719 --> 01:07:24,119
show has, and I really felt like that first season

1473
01:07:24,239 --> 01:07:27,920
just like totally surpassed my expectations and having really really

1474
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,480
hyped so of course I was expecting more of the

1475
01:07:29,519 --> 01:07:32,280
same here, and I think there were some moments that

1476
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,000
had reached like that level, but for the season as

1477
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,960
a whole, kind of disappointed. In the long run, I

1478
01:07:39,519 --> 01:07:43,159
think just taking a lot of time to get characters

1479
01:07:43,199 --> 01:07:45,159
to do certain things that we know they're gonna do,

1480
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,960
but it's just I don't know, we got to really

1481
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,320
stretch it out to get there, and I mean we're

1482
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,519
even stretching out to another season now to actually get

1483
01:07:53,559 --> 01:07:59,519
some interactions between the Greens and the Blacks and the

1484
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:02,639
hair and Hill all folks. So yeah, but overall the

1485
01:08:02,639 --> 01:08:05,880
showstid really great, So I'm really really looking forward to

1486
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,199
next season. And yeah, just great performances to across the board.

1487
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,360
Almost I feel like I highlighted it throughout this episode,

1488
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,960
but wanted to just double down. It's just really really,

1489
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:21,000
really solid performances. And I feel like Emma Darcy really

1490
01:08:21,039 --> 01:08:24,720
had more moments to shine in the season compared to

1491
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:29,800
the first season. I guess she did share half of

1492
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,039
the screen time with Millie Alcock and in that.

1493
01:08:33,039 --> 01:08:37,039
Speaker 1: Season, I still feel like she had more moments last year. Yeah,

1494
01:08:37,079 --> 01:08:37,800
that is a good point.

1495
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: I didn't rewatch the first season coming into it, so

1496
01:08:40,039 --> 01:08:44,239
maybe I'm misremembering some of those things, but I don't know. Good,

1497
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:46,000
it's good still across the board.

1498
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:53,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I think the first season had

1499
01:08:53,119 --> 01:08:55,680
some more hyped up stuff that just made me feel

1500
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,720
like we're back in Game of Thrones. This is just

1501
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,359
felt like it's been eight episodes of building up to

1502
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,760
something that we still haven't gotten yet. Well, we've gotten

1503
01:09:05,159 --> 01:09:09,720
impulsive moves on one character's account, Aimen just trying to

1504
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,159
incite and do carnage and everything like that, and we

1505
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,439
got one big battle, but a lot of other battles

1506
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,600
have just kind of been missed. But I think that

1507
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,079
the season has just been a testament to Vernier's character

1508
01:09:20,159 --> 01:09:23,479
as a queen that does not want to wage war

1509
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,119
and is trying to do the right thing. And I

1510
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:27,760
can appreciate that level of development for her character. But

1511
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,479
there's just been a lot of things that have just

1512
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,319
been a little sluggage throughout the season. But there's some

1513
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:34,199
been things that have gotten me hyped and excited. So

1514
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:36,960
that's definitely gonna be there no matter what. But I'm

1515
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,960
gonna probably go I wanted to go in eight, but

1516
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:43,199
I think I'm just gonna go, like I'm gonna pull

1517
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,880
one of the third here seven and three quarters point

1518
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,800
seventy five on this because there's just a lot, a

1519
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,039
lot that's necessarily pulling me. We got a lot of

1520
01:09:54,119 --> 01:09:56,479
lulls at Heron Hall. We got a lot of just

1521
01:09:57,159 --> 01:09:59,640
like you said, Kirkle, a lot of lulls with the Halls,

1522
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:00,880
the bastards.

1523
01:10:03,239 --> 01:10:05,079
Speaker 1: He said it exactly like that.

1524
01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:09,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's just kind of like a it's a

1525
01:10:09,319 --> 01:10:10,079
takeaway for me.

1526
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, oh, very old as jem and I guess uh,

1527
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,880
I think we'll be back for Night of Seven Kingdoms, right,

1528
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,920
We're gonna give that shot. I think people'll be there

1529
01:10:20,039 --> 01:10:22,560
see what this night's up to in the Seven Kingdoms apparently,

1530
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,079
I think it happens. I've been told one hundred years

1531
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:28,359
after House of Dragons and one hundred years before House

1532
01:10:28,359 --> 01:10:30,960
of Dragons, So I'm not sure if this show's just

1533
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,680
like just kind of spoil everything, but at the end

1534
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,479
of day, we kind of know how some things go.

1535
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,600
But uh, yeah, we'll be there for that. And of

1536
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,239
course when House Dragon returns, we will be there for that.

1537
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,640
Thank you to everyone that did check out, whether it's

1538
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,720
one episode, two episodes, or the entire run. We really

1539
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,439
appreciate that. We will be back in West ROAs hopefully

1540
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,600
in the near future, and we promise you it'll not

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be boring.