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<v Speaker 1>Yorkers Taxi, I'm around.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the seventy seven WABC Mini Cast. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Roger Stone Show. Several years ago, after The

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<v Speaker 2>New York Post first posted information published information regarding Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's laptop, I was shocked to get a letter from

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<v Speaker 2>the repulsive Hunter Biden attorney Abbey Lowell, directing me to

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<v Speaker 2>preserve all of my emails and documents pertaining to Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's laptop, which was rapped. Very easy to do since

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<v Speaker 2>I had none Everything I know about Hunter Biden's laptop

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<v Speaker 2>I learned initially from the incredible reporting of Miranda Devine

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<v Speaker 2>at the New York Post and then subsequently from a

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<v Speaker 2>great nonprofit organization called Marco Polo, a five one three

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<v Speaker 2>research group with the mission exposing corruption and blackmail. Joining

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<v Speaker 2>us now is Garrett Ziggler, who is the founder and

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<v Speaker 2>chairman of Marco Polo. They have published the entirety of

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<v Speaker 2>with footnotes, of Hunter Biden's laptop, which is most definitely real, genuine,

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<v Speaker 2>has not been tampered with. But then I saw about

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<v Speaker 2>a week ago, Hunter Biden was at it again, spinning

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<v Speaker 2>this conspiracy that involves mayor with Rudy Giuliani, my personal attorney,

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Nixon, Steve Bannon, who I think everybody knows that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not close to in some non existed conspiracy. And

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<v Speaker 2>be very clear, everything I know from Hunter Biden's laptop

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<v Speaker 2>or about it, I either learned in the New York

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<v Speaker 2>Post or I learned by the incredible report published bib

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<v Speaker 2>Marco Polo, which, by the way, you can go to

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<v Speaker 2>Bidenreport dot com and download or order your own copy there. Garrett,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the Stone Zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well thanks for having me on, and I agree with

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<v Speaker 1>your assessment of Abbi Lowell. And he wasn't just repulsive

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<v Speaker 1>under Hunter's father's administration. I think he's even more repulsive today.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's done the very tip of lawfare too. So

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<v Speaker 1>you and I have been attacked by one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most demonic men in America, Abby Lowell.

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<v Speaker 2>I did I have to kind of enjoy reading that

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter was stiffing in for seventeen million dollars in legal fees.

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<v Speaker 2>Very much on brand. But I guess when I found

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<v Speaker 2>shocking is this new let's call it the rehabilitation tour,

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<v Speaker 2>where Hunter is making the rounds. You're actually talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the possibility of his running for vice president with Gavin Newsom,

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<v Speaker 2>which is something fitting about that. But he did a

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<v Speaker 2>long interview with my old friend Tucker Carlson, and you

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<v Speaker 2>did an amazing critique of that. I really want to

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<v Speaker 2>get into because the facts are what the facts are.

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<v Speaker 2>This laptop is real. You can go get it yourself

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<v Speaker 2>by going to Bidenreport dot com. You can support Garrett's

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<v Speaker 2>worker by going to Marco Polo dot org. But give

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<v Speaker 2>us your assessment of the Hunter Biden Tucker carl should interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first off, I support talking to everybody. Even Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>of Nazareth spoke to decrepit dishonest people. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>agree with this idea that you know, just because you

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<v Speaker 1>put somebody on a program, therefore you know you are

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<v Speaker 1>to be castigated. So I'm not so I'm prefacing what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say. None of it's good about Tucker by

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<v Speaker 1>saying that I'm not mad that he had Hunter on

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<v Speaker 1>his program. You know, back before CNN went Haywire, you

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<v Speaker 1>know this better than anybody. They had this program called Crossfire,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's what got me into politics. I love a

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<v Speaker 1>good pugilistic battle, right, But the fact of the matter

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<v Speaker 1>is that Tucker when he had Hunter on his program,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike Crossfire where they used to duke it out, totally

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<v Speaker 1>put his tail between his legs and didn't ask him

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<v Speaker 1>a single difficult question. That's sin number one. But the

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<v Speaker 1>second sin is even worse in my opinion, which is

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<v Speaker 1>he never correct did the multiple verifiable lies. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>throughout our daily lives, Roger, when somebody lies to you,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not always able to have at your disposal documentary

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<v Speaker 1>evidence disproving that lie. Sometimes somebody says a lie and

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's wrong, and you can prove it academically

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<v Speaker 1>and you know through words, but you don't have some

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<v Speaker 1>hard evidence to disprove it. Well. With Hunter, the delusion

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<v Speaker 1>is so great, Roger, that we have this signature on

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<v Speaker 1>the repair order. And more than that, we have the

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<v Speaker 1>email that John Paul mciaac, the shop owner, his Square

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<v Speaker 1>invoicing system. You know a lot of these small merchants.

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<v Speaker 1>How we use it at Marco Polo, This company called Square,

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<v Speaker 1>which does credit cards right well. Square automatically sent an

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<v Speaker 1>email to RhB DC at iCloud dot com, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Biden's email account, that was subsequently subpoenaed by the

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<v Speaker 1>doj in that email from the repairman's shop entered as

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<v Speaker 1>an exhibit as Exhibit number forty, and the criminal trial

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four, the one that his wife screamed

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<v Speaker 1>to me out in the hallway. I went to every

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<v Speaker 1>day of that trial. And so usually when somebody lies

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and that's what makes it so ridiculous. You

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned I did a light correction video. I've only done

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<v Speaker 1>two of Hunter's. I did one with the Sean Ryan Show,

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<v Speaker 1>which Hunter told over one hundred lies, and then this

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<v Speaker 1>past Thursday, I did a three hour correction video of

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<v Speaker 1>his two hour discussion with Tucker that featured eighty nine

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<v Speaker 1>false statements and or lies, meaning I don't just say

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<v Speaker 1>what you know. I don't just say that they're eighty

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<v Speaker 1>nine lies. Roger. I literally go through and stop the

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<v Speaker 1>frame and explain to people, using our book that you

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<v Speaker 1>alluded to, why what he's saying is a lie or

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<v Speaker 1>a false statement.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting. Of course, he continues to use his

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<v Speaker 2>addiction as his excuse for all of his illegal activities,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, you know, which I think is kind of absurd.

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<v Speaker 2>He portrays himself as a misunderstood addict whose every failure

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<v Speaker 2>should be excused as a production of his addictions. The

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<v Speaker 2>addiction was real and it was destructive, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>not explained. Years of foreign basis arrangements, complex corporate structures,

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<v Speaker 2>unpaid taxes, unreported income, suspicious financial transfers. Repeated invocation of

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<v Speaker 2>the Biden name was a clear effort. It influence pedaling.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't erase evidence. The laptop documented Hunter's dealings with China, Ukraine, Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>Romania and elsewhere, contains emails, messages, photographs. Some of them

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<v Speaker 2>had to be blurred because their lewde financial records and

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<v Speaker 2>recordings that directly contradicted Joe Biden's repeated claim that he

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<v Speaker 2>knew nothing about his son's businesses and references to the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Guy were meaningless. The reference to h holding for

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<v Speaker 2>the big guys pretty clear to me what they were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about precisely.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Joe is not Italian and he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do what the Italians did, which was have Omerica. Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe didn't want to say anything. But the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>that is that his messed up son recorded everything. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Joe didn't like to put stuff in emails,

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<v Speaker 1>but his son certainly did. And that's what did him in. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the reason why I started off with Abby

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<v Speaker 1>is not just to pick it an old scab roger.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to bring up what is who is behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes and pushing for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, even though Hunter is being sued by Loll's

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<v Speaker 1>old firm, Loll left Winston Strawn in part because they

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<v Speaker 1>had planned on sewing Hunter, so Loull just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Louell got his salary at the time, but Hunter wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>paying the firm, so it's really the firm on the hook.

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<v Speaker 1>And Loll is now mad at Winston for suing Hunter.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's Loll in this Kevin Morris figure who we

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<v Speaker 1>beat in a legal battle. He also sued us. But

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Morris is now trying to He's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>releasing this documentary and I think it's Abby Lowell and

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Morris's mission. Now that's sort of, you know, be

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<v Speaker 1>the foot soldiers for Hunter. And by the way, Hunter's

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<v Speaker 1>represented now by a publicist that Kevin Morris helped him

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<v Speaker 1>find and probably it's probably coming out of the documentary

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<v Speaker 1>marketing budget. So those two figures, Lowland Morris are still

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<v Speaker 1>involved to this day in basically trying to rewrite history,

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<v Speaker 1>and Morris wants his money made back because he knows

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<v Speaker 1>that Hunter's not going to pay him, and this documentary

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<v Speaker 1>could net him, you know, the millions that he's lent,

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote lent Hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm very anxious to see the documentary because I

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<v Speaker 2>have a feeling it is going to recycle the completely

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<v Speaker 2>discredited idea involving Rudy Giuliani, Russian operatives, manipulated databases, fabricated recordings,

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter's former psychiatrist Keith Ablow, myself, or my longtime personal

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<v Speaker 2>attorney and friend, Tyler Nixon. None of them have anything

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<v Speaker 2>to do with this other than reading about it, in

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<v Speaker 2>the case of Mayor Giuliani, becoming aware of it and

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<v Speaker 2>turning it over to the proper authorities after authenticating it,

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<v Speaker 2>for which he has been you know, he has been vilified,

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<v Speaker 2>but they really are. They're trying to spin this narrative

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<v Speaker 2>with Hunter. You don't know whether he's lied so much

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<v Speaker 2>he actually believes a lie, that he's convinced himself with

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<v Speaker 2>a liar, or whether he's just a bald faced liar.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned that at the start of the video I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, there are the way I put it was,

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<v Speaker 1>there are gradations of untruthfulness. You know, for something to

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<v Speaker 1>technically be a lie, the teller has to have malicious

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<v Speaker 1>intent in his mind, and sometimes Hunter is is genuinely wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I said WI slash false statements, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>some some things through the child sport litigation that I

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<v Speaker 1>was involved with. If your listeners don't know, Hunter and

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<v Speaker 1>Morris just want to make it seem like I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>some political aid, but I'm a licensed private investigator that

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<v Speaker 1>was retained by the mother of Hunter's child as the

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<v Speaker 1>expert witness in his child support case. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they hated me so much, is that I got access

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<v Speaker 1>to so much material. And I can tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things that he said on that interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Tucker, I delineate which ones are which we're knowing lies.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they're just you know, false statements that Morris has

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<v Speaker 1>said to him and that he's just kind of taken,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as his own. But other stuff he knows

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lie. So again, if I'm not out, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I have put it upon myself that every time that

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<v Speaker 1>he makes it onto a formerly right wing or MAGA

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<v Speaker 1>adjacent program, you know, if he's going on on NPR,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do a correction video Roger because MPR is

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<v Speaker 1>is we expect that mendacity from him. They are sloped,

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<v Speaker 1>they are state sponsored propaganda. But when he goes on

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Ryan and Tucker Carlson, who at one time we're

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<v Speaker 1>listened to by a lot of people who think like

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<v Speaker 1>we do, then I am the foremost what's you know

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<v Speaker 1>this is on radio, but the foremost BS detector, And

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<v Speaker 1>I just put it out there and if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if one hundred people listen, that's fine. If a couple

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand people listen, that's even better. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have it for posterity to correct these ridiculous lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, independent and analysis verified the accuracy of the data. Some

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<v Speaker 2>emails are confirmed through cryptographic signatures, others through receipts and

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<v Speaker 2>contemporarius records. I mean, there's nothing here that is fabricated.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing here that has been created. And before you

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<v Speaker 2>came on and interviewed Michael Kaputo, who whose name pops

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<v Speaker 2>up on a spreadsheet in Operation Round River, which was

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI's overall operation to silence any examination of the

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<v Speaker 2>corruption of the bidens and they're run up to the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty election. This laptop was an inconvenient piece of

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<v Speaker 2>truth that can became public at the most inconvenient time.

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<v Speaker 2>The best thing I like about the mission statement of

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<v Speaker 2>Marco Polo, as you say, our organization's work is defined

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<v Speaker 2>by adher it's the sobriety and truth above all else,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter who the truth implicates, and you have done

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<v Speaker 2>yeoman service here for anyone who's interested. You can go

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<v Speaker 2>to Bidenreport dot com. You can download this incredible report,

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<v Speaker 2>or you can order one. I still believe you can

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<v Speaker 2>order one, or you can go support. You can support

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<v Speaker 2>Garrett's important work and the small team of hardcore activists

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<v Speaker 2>who work with him by going to Marco Polo dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>You have done an incredible public service. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>most aggravating things to me, of course, is I constantly

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<v Speaker 2>see that Hunter was forced to pay his back taxes,

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<v Speaker 2>but Roger Stone and his wife they were allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>skip out on their taxes. Let me be clear, my

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<v Speaker 2>wife and I owe nothing whatsoever to the FBI. To

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<v Speaker 2>the irs, we have paid every penny with penalty and interest,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a large amount. So I never failed

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<v Speaker 2>to report a penny. Hunter failed to report fifteen million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars in income. I never got the IRS to release

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<v Speaker 2>those taxes. He was allowed to skate on fifteen million.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to pay every penny. Believe me, it was painful,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got no break whatsoever. And three quarters what

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<v Speaker 2>I paid them was interest in penalty on my two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and six taxes. So that fake equivalence of oh

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<v Speaker 2>a Hunter was allowed to Hunter was prosecuted, but Stone

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<v Speaker 2>was allowed to skip. I skipped on nothing, nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And you did two things on that. You didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a sugar daddy named Kevin Morris. He said, Hunter always

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<v Speaker 1>says he pays them. No, Morris. Morris gave him the money.

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<v Speaker 1>They called it alone, and Morris has no expectation of

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<v Speaker 1>being paid back. It was basically Morris is going to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid the gift tax. It's insane. Secondly, Secondly, Roger, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't receive the larger part in US history, larger than

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Nixon's. That's what Hunt, That's what Hunter's legacy is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be about. And I'm going to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do my That's that's my mission right now, is to

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<v Speaker 1>have the accurate story of the Bidens be told I

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<v Speaker 1>want Joe's Museum to basically be a bookmobile. That's my

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<v Speaker 1>goal and ever, and if that Podunk museum does get

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<v Speaker 1>built on the campus of Artsmere Academy, where Hunter went

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<v Speaker 1>to school and where Tyler Nixon went to school, I

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<v Speaker 1>want our book being strewn about that library to where

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<v Speaker 1>they can't even get it, you know, get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>it quick enough. I want people to go in there

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<v Speaker 1>and put the book on the shelves next to Joe's hoggiographies.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be right back with Garrett Ziggler from Marco Polo dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're back on the Rogers Stones Show. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to Garrett Ziggler, the founder and chairman of Marco Polo,

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<v Speaker 2>the nonprofit research group which has published any centirety with

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<v Speaker 2>footnotes to make it more understandable. The Hunter Biden laptops.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Garrett, I think if if Kevin Morris, who

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<v Speaker 2>is essentially Hunter Biden's sugar daddy, hopes to recode the

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<v Speaker 2>millions that he spent defending Hunter Biden lending him money

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<v Speaker 2>in a documentary, I think he may be kidding himself

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think Hunter's artwork is that hot commodity today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that the market is really there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure this phony rehabition rehabilitation tour is going

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's hilarious. And you know, Hunter, in these discussions,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with Tucker, I won't even call it an

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<v Speaker 1>interview per se. Tucker's Tucker's bit was really about entertainment.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of kumbayah and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Trump bashing. So again, I don't think that Tucker doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>care about the truth. I just think the truth is

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<v Speaker 1>like concern number four to Tucker, and entertainment's number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it was really a cathartic discussion with Hunter. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were old friends, and I had to be fair

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<v Speaker 1>to all. It was mo moly. Their wives. They lived

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<v Speaker 1>across the street from one another in Northwest DC, not

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<v Speaker 1>too far from where Obama lives in Colorama, and they lived,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they lived on the same street for like

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<v Speaker 1>five years, and so that's really their connection, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And Tucker was in the laptop. Tucker's son was seeking

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Georgetown, and of course Hunter was, believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not, an adjunct professor of lobbying at Georgetown,

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<v Speaker 1>and Hunter actually wrote a recommendation letter for Buckley Carlston

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<v Speaker 1>to get into Georgetown. It turns out Buckley didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know, and like Buckley, he's got a collection

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<v Speaker 2>of Rogerstone do Nothing Wrong t shirts. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't watch the interview except for I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>watch your breakdown of it, and I found it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of shocking. What really was a vehicle that they both

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<v Speaker 2>used to attack President Trump more than anything else. If

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker's if if Hunter is serious about a political career,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be surprised. I don't think he has the discipline

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<v Speaker 2>for it. But this, this recycle and narrative that includes

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<v Speaker 2>me and our mutual friend and my lawyer, Tyler Nixon

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<v Speaker 2>and Keith Albow, this is this is an outrage. I

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<v Speaker 2>should send them a letter from my lawyer saying be

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<v Speaker 2>very careful in your upcoming documentary because all I know

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<v Speaker 2>about this is what I read again in the great

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<v Speaker 2>reporting by Miranda Devine and in this incredible portfolio you

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<v Speaker 2>put together, which, by the way, you can go to

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<v Speaker 2>Bidenreport dot com to download a copy of it or

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<v Speaker 2>to order a copy of it, and you once again

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<v Speaker 2>can go to Marco Polo dot org to support the

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<v Speaker 2>important anti corruption work being done by Garrett and that

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<v Speaker 2>great organization. What do you think Hunter's next? What's the

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<v Speaker 2>game plan here? Is this about public reabilitation or is

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<v Speaker 2>he actually serious about entering the political arena?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it. It depends on what his money

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<v Speaker 1>situations like. So he owes Winston four point nine to

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<v Speaker 1>six and then to Morris about anywhere from seven to twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if the documentary does well, that'll wipe out

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<v Speaker 1>the debt. I think Morris will just write it off

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<v Speaker 1>and take the money that way, and then if he

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<v Speaker 1>can work, you know, there's gonna be a the trial

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<v Speaker 1>with Winston and Taylor. It's now called Winston Taylor instead

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<v Speaker 1>of Winston Strong. That schedule for October in DC. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be at that, but I doubt it'll go to trial.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what they want is to work out a

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<v Speaker 1>payment plan. But you know, this is an idea I've

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<v Speaker 1>been having and I want your take on it. Roger

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter could actually benefit financially from running for Congress. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people say who's gonna elect him? And I say look

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<v Speaker 1>at look at how Shift got in. There's some wacko

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<v Speaker 1>districts in this country that are D plus thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>that would definitely vote for Hunter. And if he gets

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<v Speaker 1>on the public goal at a buck seventy four a year,

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<v Speaker 1>that will say to his creditors, hey, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>give me a payment plan, don't I don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>more money. Whereas now he's still black box, he could

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<v Speaker 1>still be selling some of his doodles for astronomical prices.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, twenty twenty five k Hunter's artwork. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>for your listeners, it's essentially artwork that you'd find on

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<v Speaker 1>the wall of a holiday in He's definitely better than me,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like holiday in waal Art. It's it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>But but some holiday in wal Art, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 1>the president's son, could get novelty prices. But no, if

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<v Speaker 1>you go with the bucks seventy four, then you could

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<v Speaker 1>set up payment plans with his creditors.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, he's so corrupt. He would fit

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<v Speaker 2>right into Congress. So I think it's a real possibility. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I thank our guest, Garrett Jigger, and thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us today on the Rogers soon and show until

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<v Speaker 2>next week. God bless you and God speed.