Speaker 1: It's all right, everybody, Welsh back. We have reconvened the
panel and we're joined again with Stormy, Pete and Thomas
Triple seven.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Today we have a variety show. I guess we have
a bunch of stuff we want to talk about and
we have a lot to get to, so we're just
gonna get right into it. Just always remember check the
show notes. I don't just put random links down there.
I put episodes that these guys have done that sort
of contextualize the things they talk about, so you could
keep the conversation going and sort of get the context.
But you know, we were talking before we went on,
and Pete brought up a really good question uestion that
I think needs to be discussed because you see these
words thrown around a lot, and I think we need
to I think we need to clarify terms here. Pete asked,
is what we're doing a mass movement or a vanguard
And Thomas on the first episode you you said you're
a vanguardist, and I think you know it's pretty clear
what you mean, but I'd like to differentiate that between
vanguardism and a movement. And this is of course within
the context of the wider, you know, Trump election and
the MAGA movement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're asking me for my perspective,
you know, any this idea that play will change happens
because you convince everybody to vote a certain way or
you stack up the most members. That's not really how
you implement any kind of paradigm shift or any kind
of revolutionary change. Like that's that's how you consolidate it,
you know, because there's no this thing desplay like cap
to the contrary and like lazy state de verned propaganda.
There's there's no this thing as like a regime that
like has no democratic mandate. I mean, like I don't
like that term because like it doesn't make any sense
to talk about democracy in the modern era. But you know,
all all governments are basically structured the same these days.
I mean, they're political values different dramatically. But it's like
as and I to talk about like democracy versus not democracy,
I mean, even if that wasn't a meaningless voating signifier.
But this idea that uh, you know that the current
situation is somehow like you know, like Weimar or something,
and if you fight for some kind of parliamentary plurality
you know, then you can capture sort of key bureaucracies
and and executive offices like within the state apparatus. Like
that's that's not the way things are in America. Like
and in some ways the American governments like structure to
prevent that, and this long perceives like the current incarnation
of of of the government. But but beyond that, you know,
the whole point in my opinion, I mean the whole
the whole reason I do what I do, and like
my own political values, like majoritarian appeals are bullshit and
they harm what I think is important. And what I
think is important is people's ability to live historically and
guarantee the posterity of of of linear cultures and populations
and the production of culture and you know, the improvement
of life in unitarian and cultural terms. And you don't
do that, but I you know, devising some sort of
scheme where you can like convince the most people that
you're right, like categorically that that just like breeds like
mediocrity and and and and compromises and and and pointless societies.
So while I wanted to do with that, And secondly,
if you look at this as is, you know, if
you look at this objectively, you know, they're you know,
I'm always saying there's only globalism in the resistance. There's
not like a sovereign West. There's not some constellation of
sovereign countries that like make up some sort of like
global prestige of power bases. So even aside from even
if I didn't hold the kinds of play ethical values
I did, if you want to resist globalism, it's ass
sine to say, like, don't we're going to resistic globalism
by becoming globalism like that, that doesn't make any sense.
And finally, most people who aren't cut out for a
partisan activities, you know, and I'm not advocating people break
the law because I never do that, and we don't
do that, and we don't we don't advocate violence other
than a self defense. But if you look at somebody
like Dusty Spence, if you look at somebody uh, let's
say you cluzza, or if you look at somebody, uh
like Cromwell or of Hitler, you know, the understanding was
that only like like the share punk of of political
change is a vanguardist tendency. You know, like what what
what exactly would you do with like twenty million supporters,
kind of like middle of the road normies. Even if
you could persuade them you were like a good guy
or something like what would that accomplish? You know, Like
they're not They're not gonna like follow you a war
and become your like suicide commandos or something. I mean,
like I'm being deliberately silly, but you know, like why
we're not. We're not the Jehovah's Witnesses. We're not trying
to become the Republican Party, like we're not. We're not
trying to become globalism. Like if that's what I wanted
to do, I I would have tried to get into
the id leagues and like follow a career path like
JD Vance, you know, and like not, I'm not trying
to like stroke myself. But because of my father and
because of where I grew up, I'd have better odds
at doing that than some men or I would have
when I was young. Okay, I didn't do that because
I don't want to fuck with that kind of stuff,
because that kind of stuff's fucking stupid, you know, Like
so people that that's that's where we're at. You know,
I don't know how anybody I'm not talking about you
felt as I'm talking about like random people who stumble
across my con or whatever. I don't anybody can like
mistake me for some guy who's like trying to become
like mid Romney yourselfing.
Speaker 4: No, I like to take this moment and actually have
clarified something because I both agree and also want clarification
in a kind of point which I've actually been meaning
to get your take. I left the audio message in
that in our chat, and you were the one that
I was hoping would catch it, because I mean, my
comp gets a lot of flak as like, oh, I
think you described it best as like this is an
election years screed, But there really is two books, and
the latter book, book two, I think is really quite
useful because he goes into a political movement in two parts.
How in the age of mass democracy or mass politic really,
because you know, you can't say that we have a
democracy now, so say mass politics, right or mass media politics,
I guess would be a better term for it. And
you know, unlike the medieval ages, things like that when
the peasantry or the mass were completely disenfranchised is and
like weren't it. I mean I view stuff like BLM
and ship like that as some type of political self
actualization outside of voting. Right, that's a group of people
that got organized organically rather rapidly, we could say organically organically, Right.
Speaker 3: I mean I bom it just brought you by sorrel
sc in my opinion, go ahead.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. But you're able to a core group
of cadre, were able to utilize a mass for political objectives. So,
like Hitler talks about, like this is these these you
need this in these parts you first need. This is
what's important. You need your vanguard, your elite cadre, Like
this is where you're going to form your officer corps. Right,
these are the important people. This is how many of
them you need. This is what you need them to do.
This is all the important things that can only be
done by these type of people. And they represent a
very very small percentage of the total population, and you
need to find them and they're your most important people.
And then after that it goes to how to build
the mass movement using those people. So like when I
look at when I look at kind of like the
roadmap he laid out, I'm like, well, we don't live
in the fifteenth century, and a lot of the elite
school of politics is really based in a time where
I mean, let alone social media, like mass communication changes
the entire world, Like I mean, even humanity is not
the same type of person or could ever be the
same type of person as it was at the time
that that political theory was written. We live in a
different we're a different species now. So which was I mean,
whether it's radio or whether it's you know, tweet tweeting.
The situation as far as mass communication isn't terribly different
between now and the thirties, as much as we may
like to think it is. No, but is that What
are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 3: Like, we've got we've got totally different objectives, Like we
don't like the twentieth century. There's not much people can
extrapolate from the twentieth century because it based those conditions
basically never ever ever happen. And it's also and like
a Findmar situation, it's like, Okay, what's what what's what's
the mission orientation? Like in Enviymar, if you're in the
essay or if you're like an alt copper, your notion
is we've got to capture Parliament. Then we've got to
build the state such that we can like pursue a
policy of gross ram and like prepare for war with
these like superpowers want to destroy us like that never ever, ever,
ever happens. And what we are trying to do is
quit this dying regime, you know, and build social capital
with people who are capable of being a culture bearing
element and you know, who are similarly motivated. And uh,
you know, I don't, I don't. I don't need to.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't need to corral like a cadre to fight
World War two, you know. And I don't I don't
need to build a cadre to take over the Republican
Party and like find some guy who can you know,
supplant like the president and and and bring executive power
kind of like back into the hands of some sort
of like sovereign mandate like from below, you know. And
that's I like, like the the modern state too, is
if something that existed for about like five hundred years
give or take, like all told, like when it finally
kind of ceases to exist. And I mean honestly, like
I don't, I don't post like I need forty five,
Like I don't even there's really only like one. I
mean there was the world was divided between like two
globalisms for like forty five years. But now it's it's
not it's not like sovereign states anymore, like in you know,
in like the nineteenth century sense, so you know, it's
not this idea that like like the twentieth century. It's
kind of like this ghost that won't die and people
can globalism.
Speaker 4: Is dying that I think globalism is dying.
Speaker 3: Oh, it absolutely is. But what's replacing it? It's not
it's not going to like revert to you know, some
kind of like true multipolarity and like discreet in terms
of discrete like sovereign actors you know, who are who
are competing for power political imperatives. I mean that that's
that's over with. Like what's going to replace it. There's
gonna be this like peculiar kind of like heavy interdependence
between people like across like national frontiers like commerce. Yeah,
that's what I'm Kara's gonna yeah, Car's gonna remain global
in scale, but like politically, like no one's gonna pretend
that like the US government is like this like the
sovereign thing that that uh, that is the source of
all kind of like legitimate exercise of power or something.
And it's even like the state is dead man like,
it's not like even economically like just like agree, yeah,
And the degree to which the percentage the public sector
consumes of the overall economy is like tiny compared to
you know, forty fifty years ago, when it's like shrinking
every fiscal year, like it's it's dead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And I guess like what I said
about like mobilizing the masses is basically mobilizing the masses
to allow you and your friends to do whatever you want.
And when I see like elites and cadre I see
both the political side. But then I also think of
guys like myself and guys much much larger than myself
that are having these similar type of talks, guys with
billions of dollars instead of just millions of dollars or
hundreds of millions of dollars. I see their political kind
of compass checking coming at a very fortune time. Because
I agree with you, this state, as as we initially
know it is falling away. But at the same time,
as we have men of extreme means means like we've
never had means before, really kind of waking up to
the necessity that something new needs to come. I agree
with you, it likely is. I don't think we're ever
going to see a political state in the sense that
any of us are ever used to ever again. So
I guess I guess what I mean by like organizing
mass people is basically to allow them to acquiesce to
you building the next thing because something does have to come,
and they won't.
Speaker 3: They won't. They won't have any choice, you know. I mean,
it's the issue. It's like, we're going to do our
own thing. Like the black folks who like leave a
few miles away from me, They're going to do their
own thing, Like the Spanish. Dude, they're gonna do their
own thing. Like people want to live in some like
multicultural environment. They're gonna do their own thing. And if
people want to fuck it up, okay, bring your own army.
You see that works out for you. Are you gonna
die for some stupid principle because you think we're doing
bad things? No, no one's going to do that.
Speaker 2: Well think about it this way too, so you know,
the Jews can do their own thing right now, they're
wanting to do their own thing in Israel. But because
Israel is such a antiquated state, I mean, it's it
shouldn't exist because states like that don't exist anymore. It
is it's almost like on a metaphysical level, it's being destroyed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Like process can't abite it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's also like that they can't even they don't
even possess the will to defend it. Right, So like
the Palestinians, they you know, you can tell a lot
by October seventh by whose land that is, when you
look at who left on October eighth, right.
Speaker 3: Well, it just doesn't have a content anymore. Like Zionism
is this weird. It's this weird pastiche of of of
of like year of like nineteenth and early twentieth century
kind of like European nationalisms. It's like this like racialized
view of what it is to be Jewish. You know,
it's like I said before, like why why do we
really speak Hebrew? Like that's what that language? A liturgical language?
Speaker 2: Like that?
Speaker 3: Like I said before, I feel like if I corralled
a bunch of kind of day one Americans, like from
now on, we're gonna just write in Viking rooms and
we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna be like the Aryan
state of Odin or something.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Like there's this great book by this guy called When
We Were Arab, Like he was a he was a
guy who was like culturally Arab and he spoke Arabic,
but like his family were like Arabic Jews. So I
one day, these Hagana types come to his house and
they tell him it's illegal for them to speak Arabic anymore.
And he's like, what are you talking about? You know,
like there's nothing organic about that. That's that's contrived as fuck,
you know, and like this idea that I mean, yeah,
there's there's like a biological component to heritage, but this
idea that to be Jewish is to be part of
this race and you can be an atheist, but you're
part of the Jewish race. Like that's bizarre. Nobody thinks
that way anymore, Like this way people thought in the
nineteen thirties, you know, where it's like, oh, your blood
makes you what you are and you're like programmed to
behave a certain way. You know, Like no, no, like
real jew like regardless of how whatever else he feels
about his politics or how like prejudiced he might be like, no,
real jew is like, yeah, I don't believe in God,
but I'm part of this like Jewish race. Like that's
that's retarded, you know. And that's one of the reasons
why Zionism is collapsing and like that, because it doesn't
make any sense, you know, and it can't like piece that.
It can't like historically, it can't it can't like exist
because it's too much like anachronism, you know, and it's
all kind of stuff there too. Like zion has been
weird because it's basically just like resentment paradigm where it's
like it's it's not just it's kind of like robust
nationalism like like Africaners would as guide to or or
like or like or like Ulster Prads who are like
hardline and they're in they're kind of sectarian viewpoint. It's
like it's like Zionism is always based on like hating
other people and looking at other people is like not
legitimately having political interests and like not being you know,
it's not it's not like it's not just like what's
good for the goose is good for the gander. Nationalism,
it's like, you're all pieces of ship. Only I matter,
Only I have political interests. Only what I want is legitimate.
So anything you say like has to serve what I
want because you're just not even human. Like I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 3: And nobody thinks that way with zions.
Speaker 2: Well, it's also based on it's based upon what it
is in its modern day, upon something that happened eighty
years ago. And they basically it's stuck. While people like
Mark Andresen and while people like Elon Musk are talking
about let's go to the stars, let's go to Mars,
let's do this, Zionism is stuck in playing this nineteenth
century role of tribalism that it just basically renders. It
renders it useless except to people who have beds. Yeah, well,
and well, it renders it useless except to people who
have been brainwashed to believe that it needs to exist
for a certain reason. I forget who said it was.
He said, it's like you want to have an It's
like the United States and the wet and certain powers
in the West want to have an aircraft carrier in
the Middle East, but it's the worst aircraft carrier possible
because no one wants to serve on it. And as
soon as a bottle rocket gets fired anywhere, a quarter
of the population leaves.
Speaker 3: So there's also you can't I mean just the degree
to which is pathological, Like I'm trying to explain to
people to like, especially if they pull the duney car like, oh,
Israel's like South Africa was, It's like, no, it's not
because South Africa was a lied to the elements the goal.
They were allied with the Zulus, you know, they were
allied with this entire constellation of like non africaners like
Israelis literally make ops of everybody on this planet. They're
worth the Sunnis, they're aworth, the Shia, they're worth, the Yellowhites,
they're worth, the Salafis, they're a worth, the Seculars, they
are worth the Iranians. Like, how how can you make
an op of everybody on this planet? I mean obviously
the problem is you if that's the case, getting normal,
you know, in this idea that like basically the uh
the like like the natural ally of like a normal
Western government, and the movie would be like Syria you're
the secular government. It it it carouses the sectarian divide.
It's Alleyites are probably occulted Oriental Christians if they weren't.
It's run by like a white guy who was educated
in London. So the American view is like this man
in this country, you must be annihilated, and we're gonna
hire like Salafi mercenaries and cut off people's heads to
annihilate it. Because for some reason, nobody can explain like
these Raelis can't get along with anybody else. I mean,
I understand exactly why they can't. But you know, this
is this is not rational politics, you know, and it's
finally being exposed for what it is to even people
who are very very slow on the uptake and aren't
really cut out for understanding these things. But yeah, there's
a naked irrationality to it. And it's also finally ramblings
will stop in a minute, like this isn't this isn't
the Cold War, and like you don't just like deploy
to like random theaters and say like we need to
find allies we can like train in our own image.
It's like to what there's not some competing globalism, you know,
they are they gonna be are they gonna be cultivated
by the imaginary Soviet Union? Like it doesn't matter what
anybody in Afghanistan or Iraq or at the end of
the day in geo strategic terms, it matters ethical terms,
but it does not matter what these people believe or
like how they live their lives, like not a wit.
This isn't the Cold War, And a lot of people
in government just invoke that as an alibi cynically, but
a lot of them really are that fucking stupid, you know,
like they're they're unbelievably fucking stupid, and they like actually
believe that that it's like some legitimate strategic orientation that
you like occupy other countries and then like tell them
that how they should run public school or like like
say like you shouldn't join the Taliban or whatever, you know,
whatever that means. Like it's it's incredible, it's like something
it's there's something funny about it, but it's like something
out of like a satire.
Speaker 1: Well, I have a question. You guys are saying Zionism
is collapsing. Do you mean zion as an ideology and
also whether whether or not that's collapsing as an ideology.
Do you also mean support for Israel within like it is?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 1: Is it collapsing within Israel ideologically and globally ideologically? And
is are they also all right? So I'd like to
kind of hear why, But i also want to ask
if you think support for Israel within America is on
the waan.
Speaker 3: Absolutely people hate Israel, and not long ago saying like
pointing out that this country is a is is this
bizarre outlier that's an albatross populated by deranged bigots. If
you pointed out that reality even like ten routeen years ago,
like people would act like you said something unconsionable or
sets or advocated something horrible or evil. You know, like
nobody nobody thinks that we anymore, Like nobody likes Israel.
You know, the fact that there's the fact that there's
something like pathetic Hellbility preacher or something who gets paid
by Leku to preach about Israel as holy, like nobody
nobody believes in that. You know, people look at that's cringe,
like people look at that as as ridiculous. And in
terms of go ahead, sorry, In terms of the historical
the ability to Zion, the ability of Zionism to endure historically.
It's what I just said, It has no context, that
there's no there's no dialectic that sustains it. It's just
bizarre anachronism premised on epistemic prior is that nobody accepts anymore,
and that don't even have a context anymore. It Zionism
as we know it. It derived from the same nexus
of of causation and dialogical processes as as the Marxist
Leninism and national socialism. And obviously Israel is the only
state that still exists that you know, it's based entergyology
that derived from that same nucleus of operative causes. So
it's you know, because it it doesn't make sense. That's
why I like. That's why the that's why I like it.
I mean, admittedly, like American discourse is incredibly stupid, but
that's why these people don't even know how to like
define Israel, like, oh, it's it's a democracy. It's like no,
nobody claims that, Like nobody in Israel claims that. Nobody
pretends that.
Speaker 4: But they don't.
Speaker 3: They don't know how else to define it as something
that's like valid and legitimate to endorse, because not not
just because they're intellectually impoverised, which they are, but there's
no way to describe design a state because it's such
an inachronism and nobody thinks that way anymore. So there's
nothing to appeal to. There's not the reference points to
make it cognizable. So it's done. It's dead. It's a
it's a it's a zombie. Unfortunately, like as it dies,
it's like hurting a lot of innocent people and our
allies and places like Palestine and Syria. But deadline soon,
and you know it's the future looks bright for humanity.
There won't be in Israel anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, putting our initial topic aside, would you would you
care to speak about what's going on in Syria right
now and the greater context You and Pete have a
great series on Syria Russia relations and go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Go ahead. No.
Speaker 3: I it's it's it's part of the same front as
the Ukraine War and the reason why the reason why
the Ukraine War was was launched, I mean the mass
escalation whereby this kind of this this this like irrational
like kind of like suicide attack on on the don
Bass and this provocation of you know, tailored to the
drull the Russian Federation and like open conflict on the
frontier that is one hundred percent Israel and America is
returning the serve for the loss they took in Syria
at the hands of the Russian Federation. The Syrian Arab
Army has gon iran, you know, because uh, Syria's to
go in heights is a critical thear operational there is
a critical staging point for in wrect fire and all
kinds of other things, Okay. And also, uh, Siria is
actually like a developed, advanced country. Like it's not idiot
Americans like imagine it's like a buch of towel heads.
It's like, no, it's it's it's actually full of cultured people,
and it's as modern as anywhere else, you know. And
it's a secular It's a secular regime that has proven
remarkably durable. That's the reason why Bush forty one and
Baker cultivated it, you know. And ah, they're so what
America is doing now? Assad then uh, the Syriana of
army and has blood in the Russian Federation. They fought
off the effort to destroy the Syrian state, you know,
like Israel and America and these Salafi proxies that they
were exploiting, like like isis so now Aragon it's a
third rate. Uh you know, nobody in a in a
in a goon and and a bully you know, like
uh Tel Aviv and Washington you know, undoubtedly bribed him,
you know, to to to to back up these uh,
these these Islamic terrorists you know, who are American and
Israel's favorite proxies. And then when Aragon realized like the
terps and a real fight and like the Russians and
the Syrian Air of Army, We're we're gonna actually resist,
you know, like suddenly he pumped out and and now
it's trying to de escalate. It's a it's a pathetic
gesture like as and it's it's just it's just trying
to burn Is this trying to rag up a body
count like as the Ukraine disaster is coming to a
natural conclusion. But they're front of the same conflict. They're
not two different conflicts. They're the same conflicts, you know,
and people don't understand that, like don't understand like what's
happening today in the world. You know, Russia and Israel
are always at war. They're always ops Israel US Russia
as their number one enemy, and they.
Speaker 2: Are all right.
Speaker 1: So question for the panel. You mentioned Ukraine and how
it's another front in the same conflict too. I'm pretty
convinced that the Ukraine War is going to end, or
at least our support for it's going to end. Ors
It's going to change in a major way when Trump
comes in. I think everybody in the Biden administration feels
that way too, which is why they gave Ukraine missiles
and Ukraine fired them. But it was a pretty weak gesture.
So do you guys agree with that that Trump coming
in is gonna somehow alter, if not end the war
in Ukraine, or at least our support for it.
Speaker 3: It's naturally ending anyway, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't hemorrhage this many people, this many men anymore.
It's I think that even as Zelenski's gotten to the
point where he knows that that that can't happen anymore,
that this this can't go on anymore. So yeah, that's
I think it's I think Trump will end it, or
Trump will be the force that ends it. But it's
dying already. I mean, it's there's no reason it should
there's no reason it should have went on after April
twenty twenty two. But yeah, our states.
Speaker 3: Also it's I mean, it's devoid of strategic logic. Like
the whole point of it was just to like wrack
up a body count, you know, the whole point it
was like hurt the iv NDS with attrition. You know,
this idea that you know, I mean, there's not even
really like I mean, would the only possible way for
some kind of NCUE condition to ensue the Ukraine Armed Forces,
They'd have to they have to ethnically cleanse the don Vass.
Then they'd have to defeat their force of the Russian Federation.
They did'd have to chase the remainder of the armporce
of the Russian Federation into Russia, utilizing nuclear, biological and
chemical weapons on the way if necessary. Then they'd have
to annihilate what remained of the art force the Russian
Federation and prevent them from reconstituting. Then they'd have to
be able to pressure and threaten Moscow to some kind
of draconian peace, whereby Moscow would advocate any claim to
the don Bass and would be precluded from deploying within
probably like fifty kilometers the frontier. There is no chance
of that happening. It's like preposterous that that could ever happen.
So considering that from jump Ukraine war has been this
like little Zionist ratman like throw it, hurling the population
of Ukraine at Russia to like splatter on the Perubial
wall and like trying to rack up Russian casualties. Like meanwhile,
there's like this like legacy media apparatus declaring that like
you know, Ukraine's launching an offensive like it's I've never
seen it's it's bizarre, and it's it's incredible that the
Ukrainians want to like commit suicide for for Judea. But
I mean apparently they like it. Slave they're gonna slave.
Speaker 1: So well, first of all, I've had a hunch the
day I read that Aleppo was invaded by terrorists again
that they were just this was just an attempt to
stretch overstretch Russia and put pressure on them and maybe
distract them from the Ukrainian front. But with BIZI does
this put Russia in globally? You know, once Syria gets
restabilized and the Ukrainian war ends. Are they going to
be in a stronger position than they were before all
this or is it going to go back to the
way it was before.
Speaker 3: I mean, Russia was in a strong position, but they
were in a strong position they'd been in since nineteen
eighty nine. Have they defeated these terrorist proxies in the
United States and Israel and Syria because they proved that
in limited capacities, at least in key theaters, they can
protect power, and they can win, and they can operationally
integrate with their allies in a way that's you know,
a force multiplier that is capable of tipping the balance,
you know, like America as a joke, you know, you
tell me like that, Like the Russians can take thousands
of casualties, continue to remain, retain operational effectiveness in key theaters,
morale doesn't collapse, and they can deploy to the Near
East at relative scale, integrate with his Blood and the
Syrian Arab Army engaged Salafis on the ground, win and
basically challenge the IDEF and and US Special Operations Element
to come get us, you know, and with the US
Army is not gonna start taking like thousands of casualties,
like fightings of the Russian Federation they can't even handle like
twenty ka a week in Iraq, you know, Like so
it's a joke like this like hard talk out of
the Pentagon's a fucking joke. So Russia is a very
good standing Plus America is uh. America is a sponsor
of Islamic terrorism and unconditional ali of Israel. Like America's
universally hated man, you know, like we're fighting the war
on terrorists, so we're gonna try and kill people who
fight Islamic terrorists. People like America lost all credibility in
twenty eleven. Men, Like that's when it was over because
they started. They started like supporting El Kaita against a
secular government in Syria led by like a white eye
doctor educated in London. Like that's what America was done
on the power political stage.
Speaker 2: You know, you also have a world leader who unlike ours,
where we don't really have a leader. But what we
have is we have rabid basically politicians who at the
when a bullet is fired anywhere near one of their soldiers,
one of one of their soldiers, they want to they're
calling for war. They're calling I mean Putin. The greatest
strength of Putin is his patients. I mean, I don't
have the kind of patience he does. I don't I
would have invaded. I would have went into Ukraine in
twenty fifteen. But he waited, and he tried. He tried
everything he could to avoid this and every provocation. He's
sat back, cool, consulted with Sergi Lavrov and his his people,
and he has not acted like the animal that our
animals accuse him of being. I mean, Lindsey Graham, this
incredible faggot. It talks a tough game and just wants
to be you know, wants to appear. I mean's he's
like butching out all over the place. But you really,
you can understand why people ask, okay, who owns him?
When you hear the rhetoric and then.
Speaker 3: It's just not credible. It's like America, you know, like
Russia produces it. I mean what I nobody has to
like the Russians, but you know, Russia produces like actual statesmen,
Like America's got Yeah, it's got like some bizarre It's
got some bizarre guy with a girl's name who like
runs around shrieking that he wants to kill people because
he's like pretending to be Jewish, or there's a there's
these hysterical there's there's these there's there's these historyonic uh
people in the State Department who go around like shrieking
at other countries. You know, you can't you can't consider
yourself a serious country, let alone a hedge ofm on
if that's your strategy is we go around shrieking at
people when we're not when we're not you know when
when when we're not listing about how we want we
want to kill everybody who who is an enemy of
Greater Judeo. Like nobody takes that seriously because it's it's
it's vulgar and insane and bizarre, you know, like it's
the pointment of like some like shitty hobo like yelling
at you on the subway, Like how do you even
respond to that?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: So, I mean, so the Russians ignore it because I
you know, you there's there's not anything being conveyed there.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know that's why I mean, the French
are getting kicked out of Africa as we speak. You know,
this stuff is the consequence of this a setting in
you know, and thank God for that. So yeah, that's
where we're at. It's just I mean, I I it
saddens me that, you know, again, like our allies and
places like Syria and Palestine are are dying, but you know,
and see like belongs to them ultimately. So that's the
thing to keep in mind.
Speaker 2: It's it's interesting that, you know, anyone could argue against
what Thomas when Thomas talks about the vanguard, when you
consider that there are people who you know, try to
sidle up to us and online and you, oh, I'm
on your side and everything, and they're still buying into
all this. They're still buying into the Lindsay Graham stuff.
They're still buying into They still they throw around terms
like third worldist when you say, yeah, I mean the
Palestinians have been they've been savage for eighty years. Of
course they're going to fight back and they're fighting are in.
Speaker 4: Let's kill that term right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to get into this because a rift formed.
I think there was already a rift, and now a
chasm has formed, and some people are on one side
and some people on the other side, and what I've
noticed in the online sphere, the online right, as they
call it, the Twitter right, is that some people basically
now they're indistinguishable from MSNBC and Fox News when they
talk about especially when they talk about Israel. And you
just mentioned Lindsay Graham. I mean, you have people who
two years ago were like posting Hitler memes and videos
of marching you know, SS soldiers who now sound ex
like Lindsay Grandma.
Speaker 3: So they're not they're they're they're Internet guys. These guys
don't actually exist. They're there's they're like they're like playing
a video game, you know. So I mean it's like
it's important like tune out the flakes, you know, like
when people like I won't even like engage with those guys,
you know, like they like one of the what I
learned about is mom, and what I learned about Near
Eastern people I learned from like breaking bread with these
guys and ladies and and like hanging out with them,
you know. I mean, I I mean a personally, it's
not anybody's business, but you know I I got very
tight with some of these people I got in Baltimore.
That's why I went out there, you know. I mean,
I so like when I speak on them, it's like, well,
I mean these people are my friends, I know them,
these guys calling you like you were Also like a
third world is they're literally some like Internet guy and
some like weird Walmart town who like work some shitty job.
And then like they're they think, like saying like naughty
things is in the Internet. It's like what they do
instead of watching porno or something. That's like literally what
they are. Like they're not They're not right wing or
not anything. They're like he's the Internet guy. He's like
playing a video game, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So what what is a third world is? Now
there's a difference between the origin of the term it
actually comes from the Cold War and the way it's
thrown about now. I don't know, Thomas, if you want
to take you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there is no quote third world anymore.
I mean the three worlds are the first world is NATO,
the United States and l A. Element's. The second world
is warsaw packs and the socialist Comedia of Nations. The
third world the quote third world is everybody else, Like
it actually doesn't have They never had to do with
like level of development, like there could be like hyper
developed states that were third world. It had to do
with like where they fell in the cold or paradigm
and in strategic and military emarms.
Speaker 1: Third world.
Speaker 3: I mean not use it this.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was distinguishing it between what what is the third world?
Where is it located on the globe, which typically globe
the global South, but more importantly third world isn't which
was like a communist tactic to to recruit the third world,
And there was something.
Speaker 3: There was something, Yeah, I mean the Soviet Union did
very well at cultivating proxies and in places like Southeast Asia,
in places like Latin America, in places like Septern and Africa.
But I mean that's yeah, okay, I mean I I
if you want to take this spingle Aerian view that
like communism was a colored revolt, yeah, I guess there's
some truth to that. But like this, I mean as
nine anyway, like even if like even if what these
like internet flakes like said was true about somebody like
near anybody else, again, there's not, there's only globalism and
the resistance that there's nothing else, right, you know, there's
not there's not like there's there's not like a bunch
of like Western countries. Then there's like these other countries
that are the third world, who somehow are constantly some
like independent power base. There's only there's only globalism and
the resistance. Plus I mean, I don't, I don't. I
don't fuck with that kind of stuff anyway, becas I'm
not I'm not a freaking I'm not something like goofy
like white nationalists. I mean, like I I uh, I don't.
Nobody has to think like me, and I don't care
if people like me or not or what I think
or not. But you've got to deal with non white
people because they're a huge percentage of this planet and
only for I live there. They are the people who
are all around me. I am not gonna like being
I'm not gonna like run around making ops of everybody
to like impress Internet guys, you know, like I I don't.
To me, what white power is is the fact that
because I'm master cast basically like everybody responds to me
positively who's like we're talking to And I don't fuck
with people who weren't who I don't view as like
superior in some way, like regardless of their cast or race,
and that's how you rule, you know, running around like
being something like biggity idiot. That's basically basically you're acting
like Jewish.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to ask Jewish.
Speaker 2: Sorry. And one thing that people have to remember is
that there were, yeah, before the whole Brown Versus Board
of Education, Civil Rights Act all this stuff, the blacks
were doing pretty good in this country. And one of
the reasons why, and I'll just come right out and
say it is because basically whites kept them in line.
Speaker 3: And they had one of one of the things. Thomas
So I don't think think that great actual or anything,
but he does make some good points, like really all
I mean, it's like the quote civil rights movement is
aside from like ethnic cleansing white ethnic neighborhoods under rosics
is a some ethical imperative, you know. And also it
basically just like robbed like the Black community of of
like their natural leadership cast and uh it's like okay,
like go go figure it out by yourselves. To everybody else,
I mean, like it's it basically food bart them. Well,
it's also you know this idea that black folks really
really really want to live like on the West Side
of Chicago. We really want to live like in the Bronx.
They if they have their way, they leave. And that's
why this is when it's like mass exodus out of Chicago.
I mean, who they help wants to live in some
like cold, gray, like brutal city, like especially if you're
people who were you know, frankly like evolved to live
in in like desert and tropical environments. I mean then
so basically all these problems derived from like forced integration
and social engineering. You know, like I like people up
the room devices is like suddenly these problems evaporate, you know.
I mean, yeah, there's always going to be like tensions
between populations, but like this idea that there's like this
ongoing war between like all races for no reason, Like
that's fucking returned and that's not reality.
Speaker 2: Well also, you know if you come down if he
come down to the South. Okay, so say you have
a town that's like seventy five percent white, twenty five
percent black out in this out in rural areas that
didn't happen through engineering, that's just natural, and those when
they go to the local piggy wiggly and a black
person walks by a white person, they say Hi, yeah, yeah,
and they get along. And black people have their own neighborhoods.
White people have their live in certain places in the
same town. I'm talking about small town, and you rarely
see anything jump off. Usually it's when if you have
a high concentration in one place of blacks and very poor,
you'll start seeing real problems. But like in Alabama, well,
where do you think, where do you think the black
crime is. It's in Montgomery, It's in it's in Birmingham,
it's in Tuskegee. It's in two huge cities and one
city that is ninety eight percent black.
Speaker 3: Well, it's also these people don't like these internet guys
and these lamees like, look, I I've believed here in
my whole life, I've been fucking homeless.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 3: People don't need to like explain to me like what
black folks are like, and they don't need to explain
to me like how depraved like they can be. But
you know, a lot of like the hood bullshit that
goes on is like people don't understand like where it's
coming from. It's not it's not just like guys like
locking and loading and saying I'm gonna go fuck up
white people today, it's like this weird dynamic that doesn't
really have to do with anybody with black folks, and
sometimes other people get caught in the cross, either like
white or Spanish or other, and then it becomes like
a racial matter, and then like really bad things happen,
and like, don't get me wrong, I think any who
asking a wilding exposition expedition, if I'm my way, they'd
like be hanging from fucking lamp posts like after a
drumhead corn marshall. So I'm not at all soft on that,
but it's like corny if when when these motherfuckers act
like like blacks are like just out to fuck you
up for no reason, Like that's fucking cornball, like pussy bullshit.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think they're scared and they've never
seen a black person. That's how it comes across, and.
Speaker 4: That's the problem. Probably these most of these people have
never had anything bad happen to them there.
Speaker 1: Entirely, yeah, exactly, and it's nothing.
Speaker 4: They've never had any success, they've never had any real
tragedy happened to them. They've had nothing, all right, So
They will sit there and post about how having a
wife and a family is gay without ever having getting
their dick wet. They will tell you that it will
keep you from success and achieving great things, when they
themselves have achieved no great things and have no success.
Speaker 3: It's pretty that's insightful. It's just uh, I mean to me,
I mean, like I said, I don't claim to have
like great insight into my fellow man or woman, but
I literally live at like ground zero of like of
like shit. So like when people like you're guys like
you do with blicks or like I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: Well, well if if we can go back to the
third world is term that's being hurled around because it
is being hurled around. And as much as I agree
with Thomas that these are just guys on the Internet
playing a video game, it is where a lot of
the discourse.
Speaker 4: Had getting boosted. Let's just be they're.
Speaker 1: Getting boosted and stuff that's coming out of the sphere
is really making actual having having an actual impact on politics.
And you know, Elon Musk randomly retweets people and comments,
so it's it's it's making its way all the way up.
So Stormy, what do.
Speaker 4: You think you've listened to the most recent Jay Well,
I don't want to. I don't want to doc some
or throw them under the bus. But some of the
most recent you know, Joe Rogan, guests or whatever, Yeah,
seem to be saying a lot of this stuff that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're paying attention I've said.
Speaker 4: And things I've heard that I know Thomas has said,
and things I know that I've heard Pete has said.
And let's put it this way, if you have wandered
and you are tiny and the Internet, then you probably
believe some heterodox ideas and convincingly believe them right like.
Speaker 3: You there's well, we do definitely has a it has
an outsized impact, and it's like crazy to me the
reach of it, like with like legit, I've totally that before.
I'm not like stroking myself or something like. My only
point is, look, there's there's guys who do like have
that impact. Then they're just like random motherfucking nobody's who
are like dropping cap about. There's a third world is
you know, and it's like Okay, you're something like random
fucking faggot, like nobody cares what you think. Like that's
the difference. Yeah, well it's also I mean, who's like
whose ideas have been taken seriously? I mean it wasn't
be like a Greek course of idiots who like think
that they're being like edgy if they like I'm a
race realist and I bitch about hood rats or you know,
okay man, Like that's that's basically like that's basically been
like the subtext of of what the of what what?
Like Mitt Romney types like like talk about like you
know when when they're not like on a record or whatever,
it's it's fucking it's like it's like it's like lame
o bullshit, but it's very soon.
Speaker 4: Well, like the guys they talk about white supremacy hold
like they need to convince themselves of it. I'm sorry.
I go to China and the Chinaman dresses like me.
He tries to talk like me, he tries to use
my technology. I go to India. The Indian man, he
tries to talk like me, he tries to dress like me,
he uses my technology, he dreams my dreams. He's America.
All we wants a house and tires.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they everyone wants what they can't have, right, No.
Speaker 3: But that's why this idea.
Speaker 4: White white, white supremacy is reality. Like no, I live
in it every day, So like you shouldn't have to
be worried about these people. There's only one group of
people that have accumulated enough power to challenge my group
of people, right, there's only one group of people that
have made it there. Ri is on Deetra to come
after my people and marginalize my people in my institutions.
So there's really only one OP. I only have one OP.
If you're not talking about that OP, then you're not
on my team exactly.
Speaker 3: And that's why that's why I tune out like nine
of these fools, because they got nothing to do with me. Yeah,
go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad Stormy said that though, because that's why
I I don't want to get off the term third
world ist, because I wanted to make.
Speaker 5: Other Palestinians do I that's exact Palestinian occupied government, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm bringing it up.
Speaker 5: I had the PDL, you know coming to shut down
my accounts. Is the PDL, the Palestinian Defamation League, you know,
coming to fuck up my ship and take away you know,
my PayPal or whatever, like get real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a smear. It's a smear thrown at
people who voice support for the Palestinians in any regard,
be it Hamas or be at the innocent Palestinians who
are being killed, people who voice support for Hezbollah. They're
the ones who are called being called third worldists.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some I'm sorry, Like I don't have a brother
anymore because a bunch of you faggots lied a bunch
of young kids after committing a terrorist attack on my
country to go fight a misguided war in the Middle East. Right,
I don't have any family members killed by any Palestinians, Iranians,
even Russians, Like, I'm sorry, you're my enemy.
Speaker 3: Well that and it's also, like I said, these guys
don't have any dick skin in the game. They're they're
guys exactly. They're just like tgging some shit because you know,
they they've can fagility of this kind of like fake worldview,
like out of like Internet and legacy media. Like it
doesn't I mean, I people call me all people say
I like hate shit constantly and I'm not playing murder.
It's like whatever, I mean that nobody puts a gun
to my head and makes me do things I do,
but I give I can't possibly give like less of
a fuck than like what some like internet cook like
thinks about the fact that, like I don't hate Moslims
and like they're my friends. I mean it's like that's
that's that's awesome man. And plus two, like you shouldn't
men shouldn't be like worried about other men are doing
and thinking they're like my friends and obviously I'm like
invested in them, you know, and like that they're doing well.
They're like my ops who I want to keep track
of because they may try and kill me or something like.
Beyond that, I why do I give a fuck what
other men are doing? This Like it's all gossip about
this other guy and call him names because he thinks
the wrong thing is that's like a real feminine energy,
you know, it's like real, that's like serious bitch iis
among everything else aside that's like fucked up with It's.
Speaker 1: It's also extremely immature because typically what they end up
calling these people they call their ops gay, like fucking
I haven't people haven't done that since like twelve years old.
It's like you got to come up with something better.
So the thing they come up with this third world
ist but you know, for for the listener and for
someone who's sort of on the sidelines, are just a spectator.
This is a tried and true tactic of the neo
cons and the Zionists to call anybody who opposes American
foreign policy that supports Israel a leftist. This is They've
always done it. I mean, Joan Goldberg. I just read
an article by Joan Goldberg from two thousand and three
and nationally reviewed calling Pat calling Pat Buchanan a leftist
because he didn't fucking support the Iraq war. And to
this day, you can go on Twitter and say you
don't support Israel's war and you'll be called a leftist.
And that's what the third world is slant slander is
it's calling you a leftist.
Speaker 2: Well, it's calling it calling you a leftist. But it's
our John Goldberg's not in our camp, Oh he's our op.
These are people who are adjacent to us and even
might do podcasts with us, but then they come out
with this bullshit and it's like, well, yeah, I mean,
what are you trying to accomplish here by shipping all
over people who are willing to listen to you and
hang out with you and break bread with you. Well,
fuck you, then I mean real.
Speaker 1: Because they're Zionis, and then we become we get we
get hip to it, and then they.
Speaker 4: Just they're scared. Let's just think about the.
Speaker 1: Other because they see they see the tide they got exposed,
and they see the tides turning against them.
Speaker 4: So I would say those are the actual Zionists, the
actual the actual conversos will say, right, But then they're
the other guys, the guys that Thomas is more talking about,
the guys that will come into comments and you know
you don't hate you don't hate blacks and off or
you don't hate this or keeping off right, why are
you focusing on these guys they're basically Europeans anyways or whatever, Like, No,
you've come up with a clever ideology that lets you
edgy without actually attacking anything that could have negative consequences
on you. All right, You've somehow twisted your worldview to
take your enemy's enemy, thinking like that that will make
you safe, like nobody cares? Then, all right, so okay,
the power structures enemy is the same people your enemy is, Like, Okay,
you should go work at the State Department or like
you should go like work at some ngo. You're not
on my team.
Speaker 3: Well no, that's why. That's why, Like I'm always I mean,
I think people getting mad because they think they think
I'm like talking to some a shit or something. But
I'm constantly It's gotten better, lay leagues. I think people
realize like all the second make fun of them and
and you know, until they want to commit suicide. But
these fools like wash up, I don't like platforms, like
we got to do this. I'm like, you're nobody to meet.
You're some like random fucking faya, Like there's no we Like,
who the hell are you?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Like I know you, I'm like accountable to you. It's
like you just go to like random people in the
street and tell them their business because like because they're
part of a we like you know, I It's it's ridiculous,
you know, like I got these people got nothing to
do with anything I do. Man, you know, like and
I don't I don't know why, you know, Like I said,
I've been out and about and I've had like random
idiots come up to me and like they think they've
obviously like never read or listened to anything I say.
They think I'm like a meme or something, and they
think I'm like some guy like like like tells like
in word jokes or something, or they think I'm like
I don't know what they think, but you know it's
I've been I'm not I'm not running for office and
I'm not trying to like make friends on the internet.
So if anything, man, if there's like some quorum of
these fucking fagots like saying like I like like like
giving me stroke and stuff, I think that I was
fucking up man, because I'm you know, you can't judge people,
not just maind the company they keep. But if like
a bunch of dickheads think you're cool, like probably you're
like a dickhead too, you know, and uh I uh
you know, that would concern me.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: If that's the kind of a that's the kind of
a ship that was sticking to my shoes.
Speaker 2: Man. You know I've been yeah, I've been doing this
a while with the podcast and putting out tons of
content thanks to Thomas uh the you know how rare
it is that somebody who actually listens and somebody who
actually like will give me two five ten dollars a
month so that I can do this on a full
time basis. Like comes at me, it's like happened twice.
I mean these the people are out there, I mean
the other the people who come at you.
Speaker 4: It's like, that's a very good that's an interesting point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have people who come at me and they'll
be you know, like if you have a private telegram group,
the greatest moderation for it is you have to pay
five dollars a month to get in. Yeah, you don't
have to moderate it at all. And the but you'll
whenever somebody comes at me and they're like, oh, I
listen to your show, is you know what? And everything,
it's like usually I'm like, okay, well, if you listen
to my show all the time, what you're saying is
you'll know what you're saying is not true. And second
of all, you're not in my telegram group, right, Oh
well yeah, it's like you're Nope, you're a you're a
disrespectful prick and you're just you're looking you want something
for free it all.
Speaker 3: So it's people sort of genuinely they're just genuinely nuts.
So this is about a year and a half ago.
But this one guy and then one of his one
of his homies or something, they were like sending me
this kind of like really kind of personal hate shit.
And they apparently thought I was some other like random
guy who like vaguely kind of like was like a
white dude who like posts a lot of selfies and
like a leather jacket. And I'm like, I don't know
who you think I am, but I'm like, not that dude.
But what about when you said this, I'm like, bro,
I didn't say that, you know, like, oh, yeah, you're
girlfriends pig. I'm like, bro, I don't have a girl,
Like who do you think I am? And I couldn't
register like I wasn't just like a random guy, you know,
because in their mind, I think it all like blends together, like, oh,
this guy, this guy is like a racist guy who
kind of looks like that other guy. I did the
same person, and I thought, to other people, there's something
actually kind of profound about it. I mean, I'm not
saying like something profound about idiots saying.
Speaker 4: No, that sounds like it sounds like a different racial group,
because to them, we really all do look the same
and you know, it's a mutual.
Speaker 3: I think these guys are white dudes, but they were
just like it it like it like didn't compute that,
Like I wasn't this other guy.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like everybody somehow like blends together and you're like, oh,
you're like recist white guy. I'm intered it, you know.
Like and there's like one of the dudes who does
a bunch of he's actually an interesting guy, like he
he's one of those guys who started out with kind
of like a prison podcast, like right when he got
out of the joint. But he was getting hate from
this guy like I apparently thought he was like that
Wes Watson idiot. And he's like, bro, like I'm not
like Wes Watson. I don't you know, Like I don't
know why you think that I am. And this dude's
like insisting, like, oh, bro, but you said just that that.
He's like no, like Wes Watson said that, Like who's
that do you think I am?
Speaker 4: You think I'm like he's like like prison b face
like boiled out into like the outside world. Yeah, scooped
you up. Yeah that could actually be kind of serious.
Speaker 3: No, it's it's nuts and like I said, like the
it seemed like surreal, like not one but like two guys.
Is like that turns out they was say gas lighting either.
They're like no, they would just think I'm like this
other dude, you know, and it's like yeah, yeah, it's so.
Speaker 4: The one thing. And I think Astral will be kind
of cranky that he stepped out for this. Uh this parks,
I know, it's something that really kind of aggravates him
A great deal. Is like the the absolute use you said,
the episoute state of the are counter signalers. I guess
both on the third world is an issue and also
on the a lot of the I mean, I don't
even I don't even want to say that, like things
like marriage and family formation would ever be an issue
to anybody that you know is semi raised conscious at all.
Speaker 3: But yet it is, well again, these these these guys,
they're they're just externalizing their personal resentments, you know, and
they they can't. So it's like they they've got problems
with females or they had, you know, some some girl
like kind of unceremoniously did them dirty. So now it's
like I'm gonna make I'm gonna pretend it's a political
imperative that I've got to an ax to grind with
females or like or it'll be like some like some
like fucking hood reps like whoop my ass or like
made me feel like a pump. So I'm gonna go,
I'm gonna ground being like a super nigger hater because
like these guys made me feel like a pomp, you know.
And again it's like a real like feminine energy, like
like politics isn't personal, Like that's all point it is,
Like that's why I like there's a there's an intrinsic
brutality because it's like not personal. You gotta like put
your feelings aside and just like stand on business.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 1: I just want to say my opinion is that in
right wing discourse, pretty much the only thing that needs
to be said about women at all is that you
should marry them and make babies with them and maintain
a healthy relationship through thick through and through difficulty. So
I don't know how you guys feel about that, but
all this other stuff is just noise that like it's fine,
people can talk about whatever the fuck they want. It's
social media. But to come around and try to say,
like you know with me, Yeah, that's what I'm saying,
like do your thing, But like why do you have
to try to make it about this like you know,
movement or whatever we want to call it.
Speaker 3: Because like I said, it's like it's dudes, like it's
it's like feminine energy. You guys like externalizing their like
personal resentments and trying to turn into something like ideological
and imperative. I just I just get pissed off and
like some guys you should know better. Women are all
stupid and too emotional. I'm like, bro, I I'll take
like a downy as female over like five like fucking
faggot Mama's Boys or like race traders and you get
a fucking week. You know, it's like a it's it's
it's weak. You sound like you you yourself sound like
a weak bitch if you like women are stupid, you know,
like it's like it's like talk that makes you a bitch,
Like yeah, anybody.
Speaker 4: But anybody that knows is women are attracted to authority, right,
Like that's what they really like a right, So basically
what you're saying is like that women are just these dumb,
useless people. But in fact, if you're that guy all right,
that she views in that authority right, not only will
she listen to you in whatever you say and follow
your lead, that woman will be the only person in
your life that will crawl over broken glass to help you.
Speaker 3: Well, ask God, these guys, I guarantee you I'd stak.
I'd steak like my left arm on it. These guys
like Mama's boys, like trying to convince themselves. They're hord
You're you're like like forteen pitches. You're like, I grew
up in an old male household because my mom bounced
when I was like twelve, did you like intermittently came back?
And I love my mom, but she was like literally
even insane for person like this idea that it's like
awesome to be around only dude, it's like, man like,
one of the reasons it was awesome and I was
like old enough to move out is like be around
girls a lot.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like if you like, if there's a reason why,
like the women in prison, because like prison fucking sucks,
and that's whole point, you know, like uh like like yeah,
like there's nobody like lower than a simp. But I
get like any any motherfucker who like wants to talk
about it, like how much he hates and bitches that
I make the assumption he's either like a closet dick
sucker or he's like something what you like, it's like
feels like he can't get laid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can't get laid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or some combination. I mean, I it's even I mean,
I don't know, I mean I but yeah, I don't.
I lose the respect for anybody who's like external like
whereas their resentments on their sleeve.
Speaker 4: You know, some of you guys I've met in real life,
some of you I hope to meet in real life soon.
But every single one of you guys that I have met,
has no problem getting laid. Oh, I mean, especially to
the women that you're married to and astro in your case.
But I've never heard from anyone that is able to
pull girls, just singular or in general, depending on my audience,
salt the taste. But that's ever said anything like that.
I can't think of any single person that is either
married or could get married if he so chose to,
that has ever said any dumb shit about like, oh,
we need to we need to hate women. We need
to not allow them to talk or voice their opinion
or whatever. Like I'm sorry, are you a robot? Like
if I if somebody says the wrong thing, will you
then immediately go and do the wrong thing because you
listen to this wrong person.
Speaker 3: Like it's like it's it's punk ship, Like it's the
same and the same thing, so it's unhelpable. It's the
same with Lay's clutter it who like I want to
like pretend they're pimps and like always tell her they're good,
like how to like smack a woman. It's like, bro,
that's that's like that's like bitch stuff.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: You're like you can't control your ship and you it's
like you can't control your fucking emotions and like you
can't control your woman, so like you're you're trying to
act hard because you like you see, it's like the
same ship. It's like yeah, it's stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The fact that you're worried about women and whether they
can talk or like what did you say or whatever?
Like that is weakness.
Speaker 3: It bitchitess Well, like I said, it's the same, it's
the same energy. It's the same like bit shitess energy
as these guys like worried about what other guys are
doing or thinking, and one like gossip about like he's
that guy's the wrong opinion. I mean, honestly, even like
let's say.
Speaker 4: Like white girls better, we need to exterminate them.
Speaker 5: Also, they don't get them because you know, women an
absolutely no agency and there's going to just immediately any
but any guy that's worried about that can't sling dick
and his ugly.
Speaker 4: Like it's just a fact, Like if you're worried about it,
sound like.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's honestly, I think it's guys. I
think it's guys like who sit on watching pornography and
they decide that's like reality. They're like porgraphy is like
a sick oh syop. I mean in all kinds of ways,
but at least I I literally haven't seen like a
porno in like thirty years. Okay, when I was like
a teenager, pornos were all like girls making out with
girls like guys and multiple girls and like black guys
like getting with like white women. That's like what pornography was.
I assume it's pretty much the same today. And I mean,
you get you're something like a weird fuck who like
can't relate to people anyway, and you're like watching pornography
all the time. I mean that that like I think
these I think these these people decide they're like that's
like what reality is. Like, Oh, like women will go
with black guys because that's it's in pro, it's in
pri it's in prawn. So that's the way it is. Well,
I got that totally. I usually there's some truth to that.
Speaker 4: So as a man that is able to you know,
have sex with women when he so chooses, I obviously
like them younger. And you know, I'm really glad that
so many of you zoomer kids are such faggots because
it kind of like, you know, literally it's shooting fish
in the barrel, like you know, the Zoomer women are
going somewhere like is not not to men in their
own age group. And I ask them lots of things
a that they're a women need strong men right now,
most every zoomer girl, whether they're you know, I'm in
my late thirties, you know, a date between you know,
twenty one and twenty four, twenty five at a little
bit older, depending on how she looks. But the one
thing I have noticed. I see it almost every time.
It makes me very, very sad. It literally literally breaks
my fock and heart. Is that most of these girls
have like you know, you could see at one point
in time like and this is everyone I'm talking like,
I would say, out of a sample of ten, eight
or nine, you know, they're they were put on some
type of psychotropic medication. They have constant anxiety all the
time because their fucking world is a hell of a
lot scarier than any of their parents or any of
their you know, immediate family members ever had to you know,
deal with a lot of these girls have cut themselves
at one point in time in the past. You see
it when you get them naked, because it'll always be
like up on their inner thigh or something like that.
And it makes me really sad. And the reason it
makes me sad is also the same reason that girl
was in my bed, because there is the men of
her age are.
Speaker 6: A level of but are they're feminine to a point
where I would say forty percent of the girls of
you know, tried to go on dates with guys their
age and have basically.
Speaker 4: Had a guy bring up you know, hey, are you
cool if you like throw a strap on on and
like fuck me in the ass. Like and when I
first heard that, I almost fell out of my fucking
chair and I was like, wait, are you serious, And
they're like yeah, Like I would say, it's like half
of the you know, guys, my age seemed to be
like going somewhere into a little yeah.
Speaker 3: No, no, nobody even think about that if they hadn't
seen it in o'no, Like I don't. I'm like it
chased like sold to the apocalypse, you know, like I
I don't. I don't do fun stuff with girls, but
like I I like hanging around with women because like
they smell good and like they're a good company, you know,
like they're funded a great company. But it's like, yeah,
you're like a you're like a fucking four star Weirdo pictures.
But it's like, but no, man, like I said, you.
Speaker 4: Have no concept of what's great. Man. Everything that man,
every time that man tries to make me beautiful, he
basically whatever he's using as his medium, whether it's paint
and canvas, whether it's sculpture, marble, it doesn't matter. He
tries to make a woman. The female form, the female
body is the only way that man can conceptualize beauty. Right,
So if you hate women, you hate beauty, you hate
your people, Like I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Right if you hate women and you're not gay, because
I've said on this show that the only misogyny is
basically a meaningless term, except for I think that the
only true misogynists are homosexuals because they truly hate women.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, it's also I gotta I gotta raize
up at a minute. Sorry to be a brought but
I you know, like I told people that I was
actually around like a lot of homos for a minute
because like I worked at the Edgewater and plus I
feel like if you're like involved in like body building
at a competitive level, you're just gonna be around like
a lot of gays. Like most people, dudes like think
of themselves as like tough guys and like they they
do hate women. They think like pussy is like dirty.
They they think like women are shitty. It's they're not
these like they're not these guys, like like they're not
these guys who act like you're wine ash but they
ha going to be men. They're like they're like prison
type dudes. You know, Like I mean that that's that's
that's what it means is gonna be cruising. It's not
just because it's kind of like an American Gello movie,
Like it's kind of a rough movie, Like it's just
kind of queasy, But that is what like gay life is.
Like it's not like Will and Grace. It's like cruising.
It's like, dude, why like think they're tough guys who
are just kind of like weird, gross caricature of like
some kind of jailbird type dude who uh like look
at like women like they're fucking shit. You know, Like
like I had some of these guys that literally say
to me, you know, I didn't encourage him obviously, but
a lot of people kind of like talk to me,
I have something exactly say to me like man, like
like the idea of like pussy is so fucking disgusting
and like mean it, you know, like that like that's
the way they think they're not They're not like they're
not these I mean, yeah, I'm sure there's there's the
other type too, but there's like way more of a
bit fucking type. Man. Why do you why do you
think so many I think somebody like why there's so
much like gay should in prison. You don't like automatically
become gay in prison like display with these fucking like
normy sociology types say it's because like a lot of fags,
I don't. I mean, that's a lot. There's a lot
of like hood fags end up in prison like Alibi.
It's like, no, man, you know what, you gotta bust
a nook. It's like, no, you're a faggots before you
went to the joint, you know, Like I mean, I
didn't mean like this is like a ghost top. I
don't mean like dwell on it. I just realized, how
like are they think that.
Speaker 1: If you listen, man, if you've hung out on the
online right for a certain amount of time and you
haven't come to the conclusion that some people are just
here fetishizing the people who like post you, you are
fucking clueless. You're totally fucking cluss if you haven't figured
that out yet. I don't mean you guys.
Speaker 4: Fi them at exactly talking about the third exactly right?
Who who fetishizes Third Reich Ship more than some closet
like a Jewish dude or you know, stam that doesn't
want to like confront like any type of actual like
this has to be said. I'm never gonna I'm never
going to confront power. I'm never going to go after
enemies of my people.
Speaker 5: What I'm gonna do is I'm going to go after
black and brown people because they're weak. I'm going to
go after women because they're weak.
Speaker 4: And none of these people control the levels of power
or actually trying to hurt me or my people. Right,
But I'm going to post so much Third Reich shit
to try and make up for it because I need
to fetishize it. And don't you dare try and actually
confront any type of sign is power and make my
fetish real, all right, because once you make it real,
I can't enjoy it in my head anymore. And now
you've ruined it.
Speaker 3: Well, it's also a lot of these guys, I mean,
I'm I'm like at day one, like Third Reich freak
because like since I was a little kid, like this,
like what I was into, Like I was always into
like rock and roll and like Third Rich stuff and things.
But like most of these, like I realized these Internet guys,
like I'm talking like even big and using that days.
But it's even worse now, you know, they they I
try and interact with them because I thought they were
okay first they were just taking the same kind of
stuff I do. But then I realized, like to that
in their mind, like third rich stuff is just like
about bad guys. So it's like it's like it's like
if you were like a seventh grader in the eighties,
like like claiming you're into Satan or something like exactly correct, Yeah,
like they're not actually into it. And then when I'm like, man,
when when I pointed out to him like they like
don't I'm like you just like expose yourself. I'm like,
you don't actually like respect this ship or know like
why it's cool. You're just like a bag. It was like,
think he's being like like trying to piss off squares
or something.
Speaker 4: There's another thing about like the twink type gays, because
twink type gays.
Speaker 5: Are basically just trying to misbehave all they are. They
want to be abused, I want to exactly. They want
to be like the bad boys. They want to basically
be acting out. They want to like and I mean
we can think of guys right now, like I don't know,
wearing like cat boys shit or whatever. Like you're doing
this because.
Speaker 4: You want to be like the bad you know, naughty boy,
and surprise, you're also into a bunch of gay shit. Surprise,
you're also like you know, fetishizing THIRDI like shit. I
mean it's like if I if I believed, you know,
psychology and you know, psychotherapy was a real thing, I
would have a fucking field day.
Speaker 3: No, I've been I've occasionally been called approach to by
fucking weirdos and they talked, They're like they're like, yeah,
like I you know, like I I love this like
image that you know you're like playing online, Like bro,
this is like my wife man, Like I actually am
like into this stuff. I'm not playing a character or something.
And it's like eating to them because their life is
like playing some character or something.
Speaker 4: It's like it's legit like an RPG to them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why, like I I'll post pictures of
Cagy and myself when I'm like a little kid, because
it's like, see, man, I'm actually a real person and
this is just like what I'm into. Like like life,
isn't this like bizarre like ironic, like fucking like play
acting where you like act like a dickhead. You know, like,
I'm not like pretending I like the third rate because
it takes some like ironic joke that like you know,
my my like my bisexual friends will think it's funny
or something like I've.
Speaker 4: Had zoomer guys tell me like, oh, so is that
is that like your bit? Like what do you mean? Yeah? Yeah,
like whatever, you gotta have a bit, man, I don't
know what the fuck you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's really really weird.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You know what, the best thing uh to be the
one fucking brown third world guy on the panel here. Actually,
I don't know what Pete. I don't know Pete's ethnic background,
but as an Italian like when I come around to it, yeah.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 3: I mean that's why we're homies.
Speaker 1: Having come around to all this stuff and being where
I'm at, and I'm like, man, I've really fucking come
a long way since I was twenty years old. And
then I remember when I was a little kid and
my mom used to be like, you know, your grandfather
my middle name, by the way, is my grandfather's first name.
She's like, you know your grandfather, I love your death,
but he he loved Mussolini and he didn't think the
Holocaust really happened. So whenever I think I'm cool, I remember, like,
wait a second, I'm fucking just barely catching up to
this guy who had never read a book in his
fucking life.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: I like this is a goes with like the hatred
of poor people.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a whole Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like that upsets me more than that.
Speaker 1: Was never a thing that was like I mean that
was a thing, like but like in terms of what.
Speaker 3: It's like a weird like striver thing because like, yeah, exactly,
that's why it's goofy. I mean again, I'm not trying
to stroke myself, but like I did grow up and
was commonly called like a super zip. It's like I'm
running into these like goofies from some like random Walmart
town and they're like they're like trying to come at
me like gangster rappers or something like I'm poor. It's
like I don't know, man, Like I grew up like
meeting world leaders and like I went to like school
with like fucking like millionaires kids, Like I'm not impressed
by the fact that you know you're you're like the
richest guy in the trailer park and Terry Hope. Man,
it's okay, I'm like a big loser who's poor. Okay,
it's like you're like you're like outing yourself as like
a white and like you think that way. But yeah,
I got I gotta, I gotta, I gotta raise up, man,
like forgive me for being a lame. I'm just like
really tired and I I gotta, I got, I got,
I got it, really, I got it. Early morning tomorrow
for a change, I wake up early always, but generally
I'm good at avoiding giving to schedule stuff early.
Speaker 1: But the joining us again, Man.
Speaker 3: No, of course, Man, yeah, I guess well, uh you
wanted to. It's in my calendar, man, if you want
to record some stuff like on Wednesday, is that correct?
Speaker 1: Thursday? Oh yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 3: That's fine. Yeah all right, Felta.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, uh, we'll reconvene soon and I'll see you all
a bit, all right, Thomas, Yeah, Man.
Speaker 1: Pete, I hope, I hope, I hope. I call you out, man,
but your your last name made me think me and
you might be co ethnics.
Speaker 4: Two of the great as empires in history.
Speaker 2: I've never hit it. I've never hidden this. I'm like
eighty six percent European, and then it's like a mixture
of there's some North African in there, there's some uh
one Jewish. Yeah, there's also some American Indian in there,
and like French and other stuff mixed in there, you know.
But I'm like fifty fifty Polish Hungarian because my mom's
the most Polish Hungarian and my dad I have a
lot of I have like thirty six percent Iberian Peninsula.
And then starts breaking down, starts breaking down after that.
Speaker 4: The Italians in the Spanish like two of the most
I would probably have to say, like the largest and
most successful empires in history.
Speaker 2: Well, the Spanish Empire. I mean, Spangler thought that the
Spanish Empire was the most the most successful in history
is the one I believe that he Impressionism and socialism
he sought. He keeps referring to it, referring back to it.
So what I was gonna say earlier about.
Speaker 1: Hey, are you guys good for like another hour?
Speaker 7: By the way, Yeah, yeah, I should be all right,
Sorry to interrupt, you go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what when you guys were talking about, like, you know,
women and everything. I think one of the I mean,
this is just the theory of mine. One of the
main problems is that life is so easy nowadays. You
don't have to go kill your food. You don't have
to pick it, you don't have to clean it. You
just go to the store and you get it. Most
people can get a job where they don't have to
work with their hands or do anything strenuous. Life's too
fucking easy. And being married and having a relationship with
a woman is not easy. Yeah, I have to work
at So it's like people are like, oh fuck this.
They look upon like getting married and dealing and dealing
with a woman as they would like working with their
you know, working manual Labor's also why, I like, they say, like.
Speaker 4: Oh, well, it's keeping you from success and greatness. Well,
where's your success and greatness? That also takes hard work.
It seems to be the only common denominator is that
you don't want anything that involves duty. The thing is
just fuck around and do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Pete, you're married in the story. I know you're not married,
But Pete, I've never once heard you bitch about how
hard it is to be married. And I've never heard
any of my married friends bitch about how hard it
is to be married, and.
Speaker 2: I like, Army's met my wife.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I granted, granted, I mean I've met some other
people's wives too, and I understand if some of them
would have reason to bitch, but I I don't think
that Pete would have by this way. She's the nicest way.
Speaker 1: But the point, the point I was trying to make though,
is to Thomas's point, A it's just a it's a
bitch move to complain like that. It's just what a woman.
It's what a woman or a Jew does. But also
my ultimate point is that the people that we're talking
about who bitch about it aren't fucking married. There are
people who aren't married, like so they're they're scared, or
they're jealous because they feel like they can't get me.
Speaker 4: I think it's that. Yeah, I think so much of
the right and I mean, this is the uncomfortable truth
they post about today for the first time, but I've
been thinking about it for a long time. I think
so many of like the people that think that they're
in our thing or whatever, are as much, if not
more resentful than leftists.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I die do too.
Speaker 4: If you try and post any like. I've noticed that
nobody everybody talks about like success and doing great things,
but I never see anybody post about theirs ever, And
statistically that's impossible because I mean, some of these guys, however,
like there's a ton of us, some somebody should be
like I should be able to find one thing. Every
single day I scroll the timeline of somebody fucking knocking
out of the park something, somebody doing something great, and
then I should see nothing but our guys uplifting them.
If you ever fucking do something great, that's any anybody
that's listening or something that you're proud of, tag me
in it, and I will fucking retweet that ship for
the rest of the day, because that's really how we
should be.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the reasons I don't really talk about
stuff that I've done in the past and successes I've
had done in the past is I'm just not like
one of these people who talks about themselves. Yeah, I mean,
I worked. I've noticed that before I before I did this,
before I started podcasting. I've podcasted full time and worked
full time for the first four years. For the first
four years I was podcasting, and then I was able
to through the generosity of the listener of the listeners
transfer out and be able to do this full time.
But you know, I mean I had. The reason it
took me that long to quit is I mean I
had a great job. I had a great career. The
company I worked for was was a very, very old company,
and I had a job for the rest of my life.
I had promotions if I wanted, and I used to
turn down promotions all the time just because I liked
where I was at in the company. And I sometimes
promotions are the worst fucking thing you can take in
a company. And all I need to do is look
at the person who's doing that job and go, Okay,
why aren't they at that Why aren't they at that
position anymore? You know? So well, why.
Speaker 4: Aren't they happy? Why do they always look like their fucking.
Speaker 2: So yeah. So, I mean, I I just don't talk
about it. But you know, it's not like I I
wasn't successful before I did this. I mean, I think
the reason I was able to be successful at this
is because I was successful before. And I say, but also,
something I did that a lot of people just won't
do is I asked for help. I went to people
who had podcasts who were huge, And I said, what
do I do? Give me tips, tell me how to
do this, tell me, tell me what I need to do.
And I listened to what they said and I did
exactly what they said. So and people just don't want
to do that. They feel like it's some kind of
weakness if they ask other people for help, you know.
And there's a difference between asking people for help and
then asking people, Oh, can you fund this for me?
And that for me? And I want to quit my
job and I need you to pay my bills for me. No,
that's not what I did. I just went and I said,
how did you do? How did you get to the
point where you didn't you could do you could do
this full time? And how did you get to the
point where you know, you hadn't you had people who
were listening, You had people who you know, I today,
I was contacted by OGC man on the ground melon
in North Carolina and they're, you know, at the point
of trying to recover his bodies and they needed, yeah,
they needed a boat and it was it was basically
a raft and it was like fourteen fifteen hundred dollars
or something. Like that, and he reached out. He said,
is there anything you can do to you know, try
to get this money and everything? And I said, well,
let's see what I can do. So basically what I
did was he said, oh, it's on Amazon. I'm like,
all right, it's on Amazon. So I bought it, and
I had a ship. I'm having a ship to him.
And then I went and I put out the word
that I said on my substack email, my email list,
and I said, there are you know, we still have
people on the ground, there still people working. They're at
the body recovery point. Now I bought this they needed
they need a boat. I bought this boat. If you
would like to, you know, contribute to this by you know,
basically reimbursing me and everything. Yep, feel free. And you
know it's I haven't looked because I've been doing this,
but it looks like, you know, we've already gotten we've
already gotten enough money for it and everything and anything
else that comes in, I'm just gonna yeah, and I'm
gonna anything else anything else that comes in now, I'll
just send to them so that they have they can
use it for something else, because they're constantly needing money.
We're constantly sending them money so that they can. Yeah,
but you know this is you know when to Thomas
talks about this all the time. It's something that I learned,
you know that I talked about with people that I've
known who've been in doing the kind of thing, you know,
podcasting and newsletters and stuff for for decades, you know,
for over a decade now, and they always talked about
it's social capital. What's the most important. And you know,
if you don't have social capital, you don't have anything.
And the only way you're going to the only way
you're going to get social capital is you have to
be an honest person, and you can't fake that. I
think most people know I'm not faking when I do this,
when I talk about, you know, this regime needs to die.
We need to be able to take care of ourselves.
I'm not playing a role. You know, I didn't play.
I wasn't playing a role when I was a libertarian
and I was promoting libertarian stuff. When I realized that
that was wrong, and I apologized and I made the
switch and everything I did it in a real way.
There was never anything There was never anything phony about it.
I'm That's who I am, and that's who we all
have to be. And the problem is is there most people,
a lot of people nowadays, because everything is so phony,
they just buy into that and they don't really lives
that they're buying into it, and then they come off
as phony to a lot of people. And you know,
I see that because of you know, the kind of
audience and the kind of following I have on Twitter
and stuff like that. I just see phoniness all day
and it's and I've gotten to the point now where
I can just tell who's being real and who's being phony.
And we live in a world where there's hardly any
the kind of person who will stand up for their
own principles and everything be damned, they're so rare that
people need to realize that if it's you, if that's
who you are and you're staying shut and you're you know,
you can you can achieve great things by just being
yourself and speaking your mind. I mean, don't get yourself fired,
don't get yourself in trouble, don't get yourself you know.
But we live in a world that's just fake and
being by being real, you're like, oh, you're a rebellion.
If you act real on Twitter and you have a
real opinion, people are like, oh, this is you know
you're LARPing. This is no, I'm not fucking LARPing. No. No.
If if I was LARPing, I wouldn't have moved to
where I moved and live where I live.
Speaker 4: You would have larped as something that is way more profitable,
like libertarianism. I don't think enough people in our thing
give you credit. Like I was listening to you early
on and listen to you make that switch you if
you wanted to just larp, you would have kept LARPing
at what you were doing and made twice as much
money like you literally took. I believe probably more than half.
If I think it's half, that was probably that's probably
an understatement then right, You don't, well, I could alast
half your money, because you know you're pretending.
Speaker 2: I could have went to kan Inc. I could. I
could be making millions of dollars in con inc. Yep,
that's not who I am? Is that who all?
Speaker 4: Ever?
Speaker 2: Because it's from me.
Speaker 4: This is kind of what it was. You know, listening
to guys like you, and you know, people can say
whatever they want about you know, Oh, art, thing doesn't matter.
Oh nobody's really listening, and dah dah da da dah
a right hearing you and a couple other guys, you know,
basically because really, like, for someone like me, this is
even saying any of this stuff is there's really no positives, right,
It is all downside, right, if you're successful inside the
system and the regime, you know you would all of
your incentives are just like, hey, just shut the fuck up,
pretend you don't see what you see, and keep being successful, right, Like,
there is no upside at all. But if you guys
had the courage to do it, then what the fuck
was I doing? I Like, your options are keep on
living a lie or you know, basically, sorry, keep on
living a lie while trying to listen and consume content
by people that refuse to listen to or to live
a lie and then just you know, think that what
that you're doing is okay, or make excuses for it
or say like, oh, well, this is this thing, like
if you're not taking as much risk to yourself as
you can conservatively, right again to what pieces, you're not
quitting your job or you're not getting fired or anything
like that, But how can you expect anyone to go
out on a limb for you if you don't do
it yourself. Like, I don't get it, I really don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear this. I hear this all the time.
I hear you know, people will, people will complain, and
then they'll like, well, if we have people who are
fans of ours, who are millionaires and billionaires, why aren't
they just throwing money at us?
Speaker 4: Give me a reason. This is another thing is that
they just they have no concept of money, like, oh,
I have an idea, so therefore somebody should give me
money to do it. Like, if you're not trying to
do it yourself, regardless of my money, or pets money
or anybody else's money, that means the second that it
gets hard and all of my money is gone, you're
just going to give up. Because if you really wanted
to do it, you would have done it whether anybody
gave you money or not. And that's the only reason
that people would ever give you money, because they're like,
oh shit, this guy's going to do it whether I'm
involved or not. So I need to either get on
the train or watch it go by, Like I have
to choose right, But if you're just sitting around like, oh,
I'm not doing anything. I have this great idea for
this amazing thing it could be. It would be so great,
it would fix everything. But no one has just stumbled
across me and written me millions of dollars in checks.
So I guess we I'm never going to do it,
or you know, I'll do it when magic money person
comes around. Nobody's putting nobody's willing to put any skin
in the game for for again, again we're right wingers. Yeah, okay,
we supposedly value self sacrifice, yet we see none. We're
supposed to value on or we see very little of it.
All right, We're supposed to value greatness and success, but
yet we tear everyone down.
Speaker 1: There there There is a lot of money floating around though,
and as far as I can see, it's actually a
bad thing because the people who are the people who
are getting money, not the people who are making money.
By the way, we got to distinguish between the people
who are doing what they're doing and they're making money
on it versus other people who are getting paid to
do it by someone else. They're two very different things.
The people who are getting paid to make money to
make contex excuse me by someone else. Well, they're kind
of doing it to forward an agenda that the money
bags has, and we see the negative consequences of this
in politics and in the discourse because well, I mean,
I don't really, I'm not really here to start calling
out institutions or people by name, but I guess if
we have to name one, it would be the Manhattan Institute.
I mean. Also, everybody's the one guy everybody loves to
hate is James Lindsay. I mean, James Lindsay is not
just out here on his own saying what he thinks
he's he's working for. Someone is probably I don't pay
attention to him enough to know who it is. But
that's why I don't even think he's working.
Speaker 4: The YouTube algorithm will always put either him Jordan Peterson,
yeah exactly, or Lex Friedman.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, Lex Friedman and Jordan Peterson or the
other two guys. I was thinking.
Speaker 4: The CEO of YouTube got cornered once at like an
all hands meeting, so it is on video if anybody
wants to look for it, and she gets basically cornered
by this like rabid, Like I'm missing trans woman or whatever.
Basically like, how can you allow people like Ben Shapiro
and Jordan Peterson and all of these vile, like hate
filled people on YouTube and then come here and tell
us you have a commitment to safety and you have
a commitment to you know, whatever the words are. And
she goes, no, we've done our research. And the lady
the true looks confused and she's like, no, we've done
extensive research. You know. Even though these are you know,
basically like you know, hateful bigots, they have a deradicalizing effect,
all right, So we actually want to promote them because
they are de radicalizing people that would go on to
find much more extreme content.
Speaker 1: Oh that's all that reminds me. I wanted to ask
about Pete's stepped away from it. I'd like to get
his take on this too. But the radicalization pipeline, you're
the left talking about the radicalization pipeline. I think that's real.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: I think the radicalization pipeline is real and it needs
to be taken seriously and thought about. And that's why
I think there's there's two there's two things. There's people
who are not as far right as you on the
spectrum and then there's other people who are running subversive
campaigns and need to be able to distinguish between the
two of those and call out. You call out the
ones who are running subversive campaigns, but the ones who
are maybe farther towards the middle on the spectrum but
aren't necessarily subverting are they should be left alone. Pete.
Pete stepped away for the listener. Pete, I brought up, Yeah,
I'm just letting the listener know why I'm reiterating the
topic I brought up. I'm talking about the the radicalization pipeline.
It's something that the left talked about a lot when
they were going after the Internet. They were trying to
cordon off the Internet and silence people and delete people.
I remember when Stephen Molineau, who I wasn't really a
fan of. I've never really followed him, but he's somebody
who got unpersoned. He got completely deleted out of the discourse.
And the reason why is because you know the radicalization pipeline.
But my opinion is basically that if someone's not as
radical as you like, I'm talking about a pundit, If
a pundit, a podcast host, or a Twitter personality, is
not as radical as you are. That's no reason to
denounce them. In fact, you should support them. You should
let them do their thing. Whereas the subversives, and I mentioned,
you know, the only one of the only people I
wanted to name in that was James Lindsay. It's pretty
clear to everyone that he's a subversive, and he's being paid,
and he's got people behind him who are there to
try to steer people away, to take people out of
the radicalization pipeline. So of course he should be denounced
and attack. But someone you know, closer to the center,
I don't even want to necessarily say, to your left,
but closer to the center. If you're attacking them, but
they're sincere, you should leave them alone. You should see
them as an ally. I don't. I don't know where
you stand on that.
Speaker 2: Beame Well, I mean, I think the most obvious. I mean,
there's a couple of people who can talk about I mean,
Jared Taylor is probably one of the most effective people
on the planet for what he talks about, but he
gets yelled at because he doesn't mention the Jews.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's a great example.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he Michael Jones yep.
Speaker 1: That's another great example.
Speaker 2: He doesn't talk about race, he doesn't even like believe
in race. But when he talks about when he talks
about the Jews, he you know, he has he has
a historical context. But in our like immediately in our group,
like Aaron McIntyre yep, or another.
Speaker 7: Counterign or in Europe. Friend, he's the boomer whisper. Yeah,
I know, very powerful boomers, very powerful ones that listen
to Orn McIntyre's show every day.
Speaker 2: I mean, so why would you, Oh he's not calling
out the Jews every every five seconds and everything. Oh,
it's because he works for the Blaze. Oh, it's because
he's getting paid not to. Or maybe he's does what
he does and by doing what he does, he's effective.
And by calling out the Jews, he wouldn't be as
effective because he wouldn't have the platform that he has.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who is he platforming?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Look at the guests he brings on.
Speaker 2: He said, Greg hood On, Yeah, caught crap and caught
crap over it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he's had our he's had our our dear
Jay Burdon on several times.
Speaker 2: Jay Burden the Prudentialist is on all the time. I mean, yes, yes,
Charlot Mane, I mean, come on, come on, what if
we use.
Speaker 4: Avatars to these people, these online these these so many
of these people, Like, why aren't you doing the thing
that I want? Yea, why aren't you doing the thing
that I want?
Speaker 2: I have on that person my interest? Why aren't you
talking about my interest? Well, somebody else is, and somebody
else is doing it probably better than you know, than
the the person you want to hear. Oh, but he
has such a big platform if he would just talk
about them, how do you know, how do you know
they're going to be effective?
Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome to Welcome to the right, Like, it's so
nice to have you. You've been here for thirty minutes, Please
shut the fuck up?
Speaker 2: Yeah or no, oh, no, I've been I've been. I've
been in the right for ten years. Okay, who are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Come on, already knows you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, who are you supporting?
Speaker 4: Because anybody that's been here for five minutes, that's a
terrible idea.
Speaker 2: Whose work are you supporting? For two dollars a month?
Whose work? Oh? You want everything for free? Oh? Okay, okay,
and then and then when you this free product, you're
gonna bitch about Okay, fuck you, I mean literally fuck you.
I mean Thomas is right, it's a vanguard. I mean
you want to be a part of the vanguard, but
you just don't have what it takes because you don't
have the temperament for it. Every once in a while,
I will scream at my audience, especially on my life
it's on my live streams, I will do it. Why
am I doing it? Unfuck yourselves. Stop, you're doing your
fucking up. You're you're attacking the wrong people. You're coming
into my fucking comments, my chat on my live stream
wanting to talk about internet gossip. Did you hear about quins?
Did you hear about destiny? Did you hear about I don't.
I don't care. Yeah, I haven't posted about that. Why
fucking useless useless information has nothing to do with Syria,
It has nothing to do with Trump's cabinet picks. It
is a distraction. And if you're too fucking stupid to
figure that out, go, I mean stop, I don't want
to hear. I don't want to hear from you. If
you can't, if you can't tell a distraction, I don't
want to hear from you. If if you can't even
figure that out. And then you want to complain about
what we talk about. I mean you want to help.
Speaker 4: You also don't know the difference between public and private conversations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you want to complain. You want to complain
that Thomas is uh, Thomas doesn't hate Islam. I mean,
what is this two thousand and one? What are you
If we don't fight them over there, we're going to
fight them here the Fox aren't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to you have to. You have to
hate the people that Bill Crystal says you need to hate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when the Jews tell you who to hate, you
better fucking hate them. Oh No, I don't need the
Jews to tell me that. Really, Really, who do you
say did nine to eleven?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It means that these people don't see that. And not
to repeat myself, but they don't see that. The stuff
they're saying has been said in mainstream media outlets for
twenty five years, if not longer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't the same shit is the State Department.
You are not my friend.
Speaker 1: And I didn't go online to fucking hear this ship, Like,
what's the point of going online to participate in these discussions?
If you're going to get the same thing you can
get if you fucking read the National Review and turn
on Fox News. There's no point. You might as well
just not even bother. You might as well go online
and talk about music and video games and movies, which
is perfectly fine to do. But don't act like you're
fucking reincarnation of you know, uh, the third.
Speaker 2: Reich, part of Yaki or someone like that. I mean,
you don't have that in you. Most of these people
just don't have that in them. I don't have I mean,
let's talk about Yaki for a minute. I'm not saying
that I'm I'm not saying that I have the power
to do. I'm just a voice out there. I'm just
a voice putting information out there. That's it. That's it.
I'm telling you about things that are happening. I'm telling
you about things from the past. I'm trying to, Yeah,
I try to like not tell people what to believe.
And it's so hard because people want to be told
what to believe. They want to be told what to
do and what to believe and how to live their life.
And I wish we didn't live in a world where
people needed to hear what to believe and what's but
here we are and the problem is is that anything
I'm telling you, If you don't go and double check
it yourself, that's your own fucking fault. But no revelation that.
Oh forty years we've been talking about this and shit
has just gotten worse. And whenever we do have a
little win, whenever somebody goes, whenever somebody adopts our what
we want to do, oh what is it? Legalize weed,
legalized drugs, legalized prostitution. Everything that is like leads to
the degeneration of society. Okay, thanks guys.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the delibertarians?
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, because that's where I came from. But
why does why does Orrin talk about talk about conservatives?
That's where you came from. This is what I know.
It's just I mean, how can you how can you
like for four years, I mean just say, just everybody's like, oh, well,
if twenty twenty caused you to change your values, my
values didn't change. What was it? What how I understand
the world and how I understand other people? That changed
a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and things things have changed too, because the world changes,
politics changes, The shifting tides of American political culture has
changed drastically over my lifetime, you know, and over time
you can't keep necessarily the same position on certain things
that you did earlier, because like the zeitgeist has shifted,
you know, Like for me, I've always been anti war.
I mean, Pete, I think from observing your content over
a number of years, I know we're both like we
both follow like Scott Horton and like Ryan Dawson and
Darryl Cooper and other guys too. They're like the anti
war libertarians, right, But other things have shifted as well,
Like culturally, film and literature has just been completely captured
by the woke and by the left. Hopefully that's coming back.
I mean people are saying the woke is dead. What
do you guys think about that? Let me ask you
guys about that. Do you think it looks like perhaps
we may have come out of that morass where like
leftist points.
Speaker 2: A, B and C.
Speaker 1: If you don't meet these these specific points that are
like as far left as you could possibly be, they.
Speaker 4: You should hope that that does not happen. That was
the greatest gift we ever got.
Speaker 1: I mean, it radicalized me for sure. Yeah, we definitely
ratifies me just.
Speaker 2: As the spirit of the age doesn't change overnight. I mean,
that's what you're sawing about. We're talking about the spirit
of the age changing over there has to be over
let there. So what you're going to what you're going
to see, is you're going to see the woke is
going to continue to It'll be there, we'll hear about it.
It'll take you, it'll take some scalps along the way,
but we'll also be changing over to something else, whatever
comes next. And I have a tendency to think that
said this for said this for a while, the next
thing is either going to be left or right authoritarianism.
And the way it looks like it looks like it's
probably going to be some form of right wing authoritarianism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just said that.
Speaker 2: I agree, you're not going to see that with Trump.
I don't think I'm a ninety nine point nine percent
positive because I mean, he's a Democrat from Queen's But
we're going to shire if the spirit of the age
doesn't happen in four years, it doesn't happen. I mean,
how long did it take Rome to fall I mean
there were people who were saying that Rome had fallen
two hundred years before it did. All right, Well, we
live in an information age. Things go faster now. I
don't think it's going to take two hundred years, but
I mean the spirit of the age. I don't know
that it'll change in my lifetime, but it's changing. You're
seeing it go to something else, and I mean, I
think people should be excited about it. If you feel
like history, you should really be excited about seeing change,
even bad change. You know, things changing poorly if you
like history, because maybe it doesn't match up with your values.
But it's really when you see a societal shift and
you see like a when you see the spirit change,
that's something that's you know, rather interesting. But yeah, I
mean you it's the woke's dying, just as Israel people.
You know, people are like, oh, Israel never die.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, the whole thing about eighty years.
No Jewish kingdom lasts for longer than eighty years. Well
they got four more years. Is Israel going to disappear
in four years? No, probably Israel still be there. But
I think quickly it's becoming something different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that gots to something I wanted to bring
up earlier. The shadow of the Holocaust. That was the
capital that the Holocaust was able to afford the Zionists,
and you know, Israel as an entity that had an
effect on American politics. A new generation is coming in.
And one of the reasons why I'm optimistic about Trump
despite disliking a lot of his picks in his cabinet,
is that people that we've been talking about, like Mike
Huckabee and Lindsay Graham in particular, are like dinosaurs. They're
like holdovers from an earlier era that's dead and they're
just like the last vestiges. And then somebody like Marco
Rubio is like kind of like a persona non grata.
I mean I I even though he's got this position,
like I was, I was actually surprised that they put
him in there, But I don't think he's a harbinger.
Speaker 2: They wanted to get him out of the Senate, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he has much of a political
future despite his current position.
Speaker 2: They needed to get him out of the Senate and
he wasn't going. He probably wouldn't accept anything like less
than something like Theoria State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got no you know. Now, another thing I
wanted to ask about before do you guys, where where
are these pro Israeli pro excuse me, not Israeli but
pro israel Zionis Christians, the evangelicals that bolstered the neo cons,
that the neo cons courted and actually got under their
sway for a long time. The reason I said, Mike
Huckabee is a dinosaur and a holdover and a last
vestige of a bygone eras because he's like one of
He's one of those guys. But like I mean, are
they still around? Are they still an influential voting block?
And if not, where are they going to go? Are
they just going to kind of fade into the background.
Speaker 2: Just from somebody who lives in a small town that
has like twenty twenty thousand Baptist churches, well that twenty thousand,
but every other literally ninety percent of the churches are
Baptist churches. I think I've seen one Israel flag since
I've been here. One.
Speaker 1: Yes, they just they just don't even care anymore. Is that?
I mean?
Speaker 2: You know at the at the Baptist church my wife,
my wife likes to go to, No one mentions is
there's one guy who if he's asked to pray aloud.
He'll say, oh, and lets pray for Israel and everything,
and no one responds to it. The past, the preacher
is not talking about Israel. The parishes I go to,
no one has mentioned, you know, support for Israel.
Speaker 4: I'm heard a single flag and I live in fucking
South Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's what Thomas said. It's like it's just dying.
I mean, it's any kind of like pro Israel kind
of sentiment is just basically now like yeah, it's muscle memory.
Speaker 4: But they're not going to be able to back down though,
because it is they are. They are unified by this right.
So basically what we are doing in pushing back insta
is that it all is confirming all the things that
they're yet to told them about how one day the
white Christians will come and they will throw you in
a camp or whatever. Right, So I have seen it
unified unified them. They're not so much trying to convince
us anymore. Yeah, but I think it's great. That means
they're being more out in the open. Like it's great
because I mean my mom and her hairdresser, like my
mom is not watch well, hasn't watched a fucking television
news Like, but I can't think of anyone more disconnected
with current events than my mom, and she's telling me
how awful it is what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, Like
every I had two Zoomer girls trying JP me over
over like the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: Dude, the zoom the Zoomers know what's up. Man, It's insane.
If you get the chance to somehow talk to them.
They're not fucking buying it. They're not buying it. But
but but the thing is is that that I'm and.
Speaker 4: The kids, the Jewish kids are embarrassed by it. Yeah right,
the real young ones, I'd say, the kids with.
Speaker 2: The propel with the propeller Stimians.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, I'd like to. I'd like to remind people,
by the way that like we sure talk about Jews
a lot, but like, dude, you you talk to a
normal fucking Jewish person who lives their life and doesn't
fucking hang out online, it isn't a rabid, foaming at
the mouth Zionis. They're just normal fucking people. They're just
normal fucking people, and they don't feel any sort of
like ethnic commitment to Israel, like the Syop didn't work.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: John kuttahe calls in the introduction to what is his book,
the Ordeal of Civility, he called Zionism another ordeal of civility,
along with psychoanalysis and communism, and Yaki basically says too,
I said this on an earlier episode, that it's basically
a syop. It's basically a syop because they want people
to feel a certain type of way about Israel, but
they don't want to these fucking people that aren't like
refugees from the Holocaust and aren't refugees because refugees from
the Ukraine War. Because that's where Israel gets a lot
of the people, especially the West Bank settlements. You know,
when everything happened in Kosovo and Albania in the nineties,
when all that popped off, the Jews fled. They fled
to Israel. When everything happened in Ukraine and Russia invaded,
the Jews fled. They have the Jewish population of eastern
Ukraine fled to Israel. So that's where they're getting their people.
But the people who have comfortable lives in America or Europe,
they don't want to go there. They don't want to
live there. What are they? What am I going to
do leave my comfortable life in middle class America to
go sign up for the IDF and fight and fight
the fight.
Speaker 2: Hamas history, what's the If I want to go to Spain,
or if I want to go to Poland or Hungary
or something like that, I'm going to basically look at
my history. What's their history when they go back there?
What is there a temple waiting for them to really
think about this? Think about what is the history of Israel.
If I if I go to Spain, I'm going to
go and I want to see, Yeah, I want to
see the fortress that they was defended during the Spanish
Civil War. I want to go to Basque Country. I
want to go. I want to see these, you know,
the churches that survived the war and you know, are
a thousand years old. If I go to Poland, same thing,
if I got the same thing. I want to see
all these things that my relatives like. What the churches
they went to, you know the place. What are they
going back there for? What's the history they're going back
there for? There's nothing, Yeah, there's nothing.
Speaker 4: You have the religious nuts, right, the Shabbat necks which
there's so many of the ones that are LARPing online
as Nazis turn out to be shaban guys. All right,
so like all right, you're in like a little cult,
all right, Like you've you've gotten zapp with a little
bit of Kabbala. Yeah, it's exciting. It's stolen, by the way,
or any of you that don't know if there's the
person you're hearing it. Uh, Kabbala was stolen from the
Greeks and the Egyptians. It's not theirs. It's a couple
of books out of a much larger tone of texts. Right,
so even the Kabbalah isn't theirs, but the ones that
got like a little zapp of mysticism or two. Right,
they're in this religious cult that is quite fanatical and
quite insane. Right, those guys, I don't know if they're
going to ever give up the ghost?
Speaker 1: Meaning what let's clarify for the listener that Shabbad is
important Kabalistic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't call it anything.
Speaker 1: But what do you mean by that? I'm not going
to give up the ghost.
Speaker 2: It's not even it doesn't even believe in one way,
it's not even monotheistic. It's polytheistic too. Israel shocked about
that in Jewish history, Jewish religion. He exposes the whole
kabalistic where you know, these rabbis are up there and
they're praying for the the male the male deity and
the female deity to get together, and they're there, you know,
to basically have sex.
Speaker 4: This is why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, they what they do is
they get they go they have the temple and then
these people come to temple and they're there to worship
like the one true, you know, the God of the Torah,
and the rabbi is by you know, it is using
their prayers, is trying to use their prayers and their
energy and their intentions then steal it and bring it
up to their to their polytheistic sex cult. It's real,
it's actually really trill, it's perverse, it's really fucked up.
Speaker 4: Most people don't know this, but most of the Jews
that are going to synagogue, that think that they are
praying to the God of the Torah, that actually believe
in the Judaeo Christian values is like a thing not
ironically right. What they think that they're doing because they
don't read Hebrew all right, is they're getting their prayers stolen.
Being one d percent accurate, I mean, it doesn't get
talked a lot in our scene. Maybe that's for the best.
Mysticism isn't for everyone, but that's exactly what's happening. Peter's
one hundred percent accurate, right.
Speaker 2: And I'm just repeating what Israel Shaha, a Israeli jew
wrote about wrote about in his books.
Speaker 4: Well it's not They're not wrong though either. This stuff
has power.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Old Testament power. The Old Testament says presupposes
multiple gods up until a certain point, and then that stops.
They come back from they didn't go away, they come
back from one of the captivities, and then all of
a sudden, the prophets stopped talking about multiple gods and
start talking about just one and the only, so which
is true.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I want for the for the audience who's
not familiar with what we're talking about, I want to
say two things. The first, real quick is you got
to go to the show notes, like I said, because
me and Stormy talk about this extensively in another episode
that I'll link. But I also want to stress that
this actually is very important because very powerful people on
the world stage. Adhere to this religion, to this sect
of Judaism.
Speaker 4: Have powerful forces. Are like, So, yes, they may be
crazy cultists, but they're not crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they know what they're doing. They're not insane.
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly the things have power. I mean, if you're
a Christian, then you believe in Satan.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: If you believe in Satan, then you believe in his minions. Right,
God has heaven or God has power over heaven and earth.
This is true, But who also has power on earth?
And if you don't believe in the afterlife and you're
not really too concerned about it exactly, then who If
you're only concerned if you don't conceptualize the afterlife like
a Christian does, right where you're worried about your eternal
soul and where you go when you die. If you
don't believe in any of that, then to you, right,
if your only concern is your mortal life and your
time on earth, then to you, Satan is just as
good as God is. Right. They both do miracles on earth.
They both can get me where I need to go.
They can both you know, answer my prayers and make
things happen for me here and now. God can do that.
We can also do stuff in heaven. But if we're
just talking about who can do stuff here, Satan can
do stuff here too, And if all you care about
is down here, then he's a hell of a lot
easier to please.
Speaker 1: And that's why atheists are not a threat to these people.
They don't care about them.
Speaker 4: Atheists are a threat to me.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about your enemies.
Speaker 4: No, I know, yeah, them running their mouths. Right, It's
like I said this to you before Astro. But you
can say whatever you want. You can do the cool
atheist bro thing, and I can, you know, rant and
rant and rant about how actually the science is more
on my side than it is on yours. But if
you're spending your time trying to convince people that none
of this is real, all right, Magic is not real,
demons are not real, these things don't exist, all right.
You're literally going to a group of people that are
being shelled daily and trying to convince them that bombs
don't exist. That's what you're doing. And if you think
that's productive, then voice your opinion that way. I say, oh,
I think it'd be better if we just imagine the
bombs didn't exist, and then we wouldn't obsess about them
so much. Have that argument with me, Right, But this
shit's very real. Right, People that have the amount of
power that these people do don't believe in nonsense. They
don't waste their time with nonsense. Right When Lex Wexner
says that he has a demon that lives in his head, right,
that tells him to do things, and those things make
him a lot of money or help him or give
him power of other people. Right, and I can go
and I can see you know, Leon Black of Apollo
Group talks about a little demon in his head and
it gives him power and tells him what to do,
and those things turn out really great for him when
he does.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: I can rattle off half a dozen more examples. So
you may not believe in this shit, but they do.
And you may not believe in this shit, but it
believes in you. So these people aren't foolish, they're evil.
This call like I see it. Right, They are spending
seven million dollars to bring a perfectly genetically pure red
calf to Israel. It's already there. Actually, Hamas attacked two
days after they brought the red heifer. And if you
look at the the statement that communicate of the Elsa flood,
which was what the first operation on October seventh said,
one of the reasons that they cited for why we
have to do this now is because they brought the
fucking cow here. Because the intention is that they are
going to sacrifice that cow. They have twenty some odd
guys that have been training for ten years on how
to move the knife in a particular way, to make sure,
all right, they do a certain cut in the exact
particular way, in the exact particular place. They've already built
the fucking altar. They're ready to go, and what happens
in their minds, we don't know, right, But what they're
trying to do when they sacrifice that cow is bring
back their Mosha Yek, the Antichrist. So I may be stupid,
may be stupid. All those Palestinians may be stupid, all right,
And none of this may exist. But the people that
seem to have control over the most powerful institutions in
the world seems to think that it does exist and
it does matter. And these people don't really just you know,
waste their time on bullshit. So a group of people
are intent on bringing about the Antichrist. You can tell
me how you feel about that, and you say, like, oh,
I don't think he's real. Okay, that's an opinion, But
that's what they're doing, and they're spending tens and tens
of millions of dollars to do it, and they're burning
through every last bit of political capital and social capital
that they have to do it, so they think it's
pretty fuck important.
Speaker 1: Well, sorry, okay, I just don't have anything to say
to that. I think, Uh, that's a good note to
end on. Unless Pete has a follow up.
Speaker 2: Oh I can't, I can't follow that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great it was a great episode.
For those of you who've listened this long check the
show notes. I'm gonna link me and Stormy's episode on
Biden corruption in the Ukraine. Because evil people.
Speaker 4: Evil is real people, can you know, literally set out
to do evil?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Evil is not like this bad thing that like, oh
I did an evil thing by accident, Like evil fucking exists,
you thick twat?
Speaker 1: Well, this survival of Israel is at at stake? Are
they know that if they don't act continually, they won't survive.
Speaker 4: And you could say, oh, Israel is a secular government. Yeah, ostensibly,
But the only reason bib Neetnyahu isn't in a prison
cell is because he made a deal with those religious
crazies that you think are just silly crazies. Well, at
any moment in time, they can break the coalition and
bring down his government and then he goes to jail.
So the only people with the power, right, the only
people with leverage in this situation are those religious crazies.
So Israel will not be acting in a secular sense
right now because the person in charge is only in
charge because the religious crazies. Again, they're just crazy people,
as in insane and murder and evil, not in the
sense that they can't determine, you know, what is real
and what is not right. They have all the fucking
power in Israel, right Ben Givier's of anyways, I don't
want to get into it. But like all the people here,
like Ben Shapiro, he believes what those religious nutcases I know,
I know, right, So people in the power structure there
are the ones with the crazy ideas. So Israel's going
to be acting on these ideas. Whether you think they're
insane or not. These are real motivators. I think Israel.
Shahak also talks about that. Bee correct me if I'm wrong. Right,
Israel appears to be the second government, but it is
driven by it's driven by the religious sects.
Speaker 2: Right. What he says is he says that even if
somebody is not a yep is an a theist, doesn't
believe in God, doesn't believe that those things are true,
that what's in the Bible and especially in the Uh
in the Tora is true, they're still going to because
others look upon that as authoritative. They're going to use that.
They're going to use that as an excuse to destroy
their enemies. You kill the Philistines, YadA, YadA, straight down
the line, you know, and what and you know the
the Midwin and not even the Midwa. The idiot reaction
to that is, well, you just have to destroy Christianity
because you know, the Bible isn't the way. The only
way you do that is you have to get rid
of the Bible. You have to destroy Christianity, wealth Christianity.
Speaker 4: People actually say that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: There are people who actually say that. There are people,
there are people with I think a one person with
a huge following, who has people who you know, they'll
come and they'll be like, oh, did you know that
the Romans? Did you know that Romans were so cooked
by the Jews that they passed laws that you couldn't
like assault a Jew. I'm like, could you assault anybody?
I mean, if you have a civilization, do you want
people just randomly going up and killing people and hurting people?
I mean, these are laws.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's be clear. The Jews do demand special
treatment all the time, and they did and yeah in Russia,
I mean you know, yeah, exactly everything in Russia and everything. Sure,
but that doesn't mean I mean, these people believe that
like the Christianity is a is a basically a conspiracy.
I ultimately agree with Pete though that Rome it's ridiculous
to say that they were cooked by the Christian the
Jews of the Christian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but here's what they're here's what they're saying.
They're basically saying that Ristianity is this conspiracy theory to
Jews to keep ruling forever because the Christians aren't going
to be able, aren't going to do anything about it. Oh,
they've never done anything about it and what are they
why are they crying?
Speaker 4: Where did those one hundred and seven countries come from?
Speaker 1: Well, we need to have a whole episode on this
because it's fucking idiotic to say that Christianity is a
Jewish psyop. And it took me a long time to
really acknowledge the fact that people actually a Jew. Yeah,
I know there are people who actually try to say
that this was a two thousand year long plan that
got set out back then, and it's just I didn't even.
Speaker 4: Want to know.
Speaker 1: It's it's bullshit. I don't agree with it.
Speaker 2: You're either globalist or you're not. There's no in between.
There's you're either global You're either for globalism or you're
not for globalism. If you're trying to.
Speaker 4: The ones that don't want Zionism, didn't say that don't
want to be in power?
Speaker 1: All right, I like it. Look, we're going to reconvene
for the listener. We're going to reconvene in two weeks
and we'll have a topic. But between then and now,
we will all be putting out a lot of content.
So not to be unceremonious, guys, but I still need
to edit this to put it out tomorrow, so I
have to cut it off here. I appreciate you both
coming in. Those of you who are still with us,
go to the show notes because the last hour of
conversation me and Stormy have talked about extensively, and I'll
link that and Pete and Thomas get into.
Speaker 4: The spiritual stuff on the on the thing when you
and I did the no no, but I can organize
crime racket.
Speaker 1: No, that's we need to talk about spiritual stuff. On
a different episode, we talked about how there are very
powerful people in this world, some of whom are orchestrating
and provoked the Ukraine War, who believe this, and others
who were the paymasters of Jeffrey Epstein who really believe
all this stuff. So if you want to learn more
of that, go to that episode. All the stuff Thomas
and us we're talking about Syria. Uh, Pete and him
have a three part episode which is indispensable learning by listening.
Speaker 5: Excuse me, it's literally it's probably the most excellent commentary
I've heard on my life.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's not it's audio