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Speaker 1: It's all right, everybody, Welsh back. We have reconvened the

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panel and we're joined again with Stormy, Pete and Thomas

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Triple seven.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Today we have a variety show. I guess we have

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a bunch of stuff we want to talk about and

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we have a lot to get to, so we're just

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gonna get right into it. Just always remember check the

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show notes. I don't just put random links down there.

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I put episodes that these guys have done that sort

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of contextualize the things they talk about, so you could

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keep the conversation going and sort of get the context.

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But you know, we were talking before we went on,

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and Pete brought up a really good question uestion that

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I think needs to be discussed because you see these

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words thrown around a lot, and I think we need

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to I think we need to clarify terms here. Pete asked,

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is what we're doing a mass movement or a vanguard

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And Thomas on the first episode you you said you're

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a vanguardist, and I think you know it's pretty clear

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what you mean, but I'd like to differentiate that between

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vanguardism and a movement. And this is of course within

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the context of the wider, you know, Trump election and

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the MAGA movement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're asking me for my perspective,

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you know, any this idea that play will change happens

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because you convince everybody to vote a certain way or

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you stack up the most members. That's not really how

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you implement any kind of paradigm shift or any kind

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of revolutionary change. Like that's that's how you consolidate it,

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you know, because there's no this thing desplay like cap

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to the contrary and like lazy state de verned propaganda.

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There's there's no this thing as like a regime that

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like has no democratic mandate. I mean, like I don't

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like that term because like it doesn't make any sense

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to talk about democracy in the modern era. But you know,

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all all governments are basically structured the same these days.

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I mean, they're political values different dramatically. But it's like

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as and I to talk about like democracy versus not democracy,

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I mean, even if that wasn't a meaningless voating signifier.

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But this idea that uh, you know that the current

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situation is somehow like you know, like Weimar or something,

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and if you fight for some kind of parliamentary plurality

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you know, then you can capture sort of key bureaucracies

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and and executive offices like within the state apparatus. Like

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that's that's not the way things are in America. Like

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and in some ways the American governments like structure to

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prevent that, and this long perceives like the current incarnation

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of of of the government. But but beyond that, you know,

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the whole point in my opinion, I mean the whole

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the whole reason I do what I do, and like

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my own political values, like majoritarian appeals are bullshit and

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they harm what I think is important. And what I

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think is important is people's ability to live historically and

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guarantee the posterity of of of linear cultures and populations

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and the production of culture and you know, the improvement

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of life in unitarian and cultural terms. And you don't

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do that, but I you know, devising some sort of

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scheme where you can like convince the most people that

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you're right, like categorically that that just like breeds like

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mediocrity and and and and compromises and and and pointless societies.

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So while I wanted to do with that, And secondly,

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if you look at this as is, you know, if

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you look at this objectively, you know, they're you know,

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not like a sovereign West. There's not some constellation of

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sovereign countries that like make up some sort of like

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global prestige of power bases. So even aside from even

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if I didn't hold the kinds of play ethical values

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I did, if you want to resist globalism, it's ass

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sine to say, like, don't we're going to resistic globalism

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by becoming globalism like that, that doesn't make any sense.

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And finally, most people who aren't cut out for a

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partisan activities, you know, and I'm not advocating people break

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the law because I never do that, and we don't

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do that, and we don't we don't advocate violence other

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than a self defense. But if you look at somebody

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like Dusty Spence, if you look at somebody uh, let's

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say you cluzza, or if you look at somebody, uh

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like Cromwell or of Hitler, you know, the understanding was

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that only like like the share punk of of political

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change is a vanguardist tendency. You know, like what what

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what exactly would you do with like twenty million supporters,

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kind of like middle of the road normies. Even if

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you could persuade them you were like a good guy

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or something like what would that accomplish? You know, Like

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they're not They're not gonna like follow you a war

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and become your like suicide commandos or something. I mean,

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like I'm being deliberately silly, but you know, like why

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we're not. We're not the Jehovah's Witnesses. We're not trying

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to become the Republican Party, like we're not. We're not

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trying to become globalism. Like if that's what I wanted

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to do, I I would have tried to get into

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the id leagues and like follow a career path like

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JD Vance, you know, and like not, I'm not trying

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to like stroke myself. But because of my father and

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because of where I grew up, I'd have better odds

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at doing that than some men or I would have

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when I was young. Okay, I didn't do that because

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I don't want to fuck with that kind of stuff,

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because that kind of stuff's fucking stupid, you know, Like

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so people that that's that's where we're at. You know,

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felt as I'm talking about like random people who stumble

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across my con or whatever. I don't anybody can like

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mistake me for some guy who's like trying to become

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like mid Romney yourselfing.

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Speaker 4: No, I like to take this moment and actually have

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clarified something because I both agree and also want clarification

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in a kind of point which I've actually been meaning

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to get your take. I left the audio message in

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that in our chat, and you were the one that

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I was hoping would catch it, because I mean, my

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comp gets a lot of flak as like, oh, I

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think you described it best as like this is an

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election years screed, But there really is two books, and

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the latter book, book two, I think is really quite

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useful because he goes into a political movement in two parts.

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How in the age of mass democracy or mass politic really,

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because you know, you can't say that we have a

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democracy now, so say mass politics, right or mass media politics,

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you know, unlike the medieval ages, things like that when

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the peasantry or the mass were completely disenfranchised is and

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like weren't it. I mean I view stuff like BLM

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and ship like that as some type of political self

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actualization outside of voting. Right, that's a group of people

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that got organized organically rather rapidly, we could say organically organically, Right.

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Speaker 3: I mean I bom it just brought you by sorrel

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sc in my opinion, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. But you're able to a core group

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of cadre, were able to utilize a mass for political objectives. So,

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like Hitler talks about, like this is these these you

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need this in these parts you first need. This is

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what's important. You need your vanguard, your elite cadre, Like

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this is where you're going to form your officer corps. Right,

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these are the important people. This is how many of

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them you need. This is what you need them to do.

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done by these type of people. And they represent a

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very very small percentage of the total population, and you

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need to find them and they're your most important people.

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the mass movement using those people. So like when I

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roadmap he laid out, I'm like, well, we don't live

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in the fifteenth century, and a lot of the elite

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school of politics is really based in a time where

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the entire world, Like I mean, even humanity is not

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same type of person as it was at the time

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that that political theory was written. We live in a

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different we're a different species now. So which was I mean,

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whether it's radio or whether it's you know, tweet tweeting.

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between now and the thirties, as much as we may

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like to think it is. No, but is that What

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Speaker 3: Like, we've got we've got totally different objectives, Like we

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don't like the twentieth century. There's not much people can

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extrapolate from the twentieth century because it based those conditions

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basically never ever ever happen. And it's also and like

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a Findmar situation, it's like, Okay, what's what what's what's

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the mission orientation? Like in Enviymar, if you're in the

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essay or if you're like an alt copper, your notion

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is we've got to capture Parliament. Then we've got to

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build the state such that we can like pursue a

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policy of gross ram and like prepare for war with

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these like superpowers want to destroy us like that never ever, ever,

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ever happens. And what we are trying to do is

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quit this dying regime, you know, and build social capital

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with people who are capable of being a culture bearing

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element and you know, who are similarly motivated. And uh,

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you know, I don't, I don't. I don't need to.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to corral like a cadre to fight

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World War two, you know. And I don't I don't

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need to build a cadre to take over the Republican

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supplant like the president and and and bring executive power

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of like sovereign mandate like from below, you know. And

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if something that existed for about like five hundred years

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give or take, like all told, like when it finally

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mean there was the world was divided between like two

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globalisms for like forty five years. But now it's it's

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not it's not like sovereign states anymore, like in you know,

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in like the nineteenth century sense, so you know, it's

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not this idea that like like the twentieth century. It's

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Speaker 4: Is dying that I think globalism is dying.

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it's not going to like revert to you know, some

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of discrete like sovereign actors you know, who are who

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that's over with. Like what's going to replace it. There's

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gonna be this like peculiar kind of like heavy interdependence

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between people like across like national frontiers like commerce. Yeah,

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that's what I'm Kara's gonna yeah, Car's gonna remain global

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in scale, but like politically, like no one's gonna pretend

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sovereign thing that that uh, that is the source of

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all kind of like legitimate exercise of power or something.

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it's not like even economically like just like agree, yeah,

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consumes of the overall economy is like tiny compared to

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you know, forty fifty years ago, when it's like shrinking

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every fiscal year, like it's it's dead.

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about like mobilizing the masses is basically mobilizing the masses

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to allow you and your friends to do whatever you want.

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both the political side. But then I also think of

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guys like myself and guys much much larger than myself

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that are having these similar type of talks, guys with

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billions of dollars instead of just millions of dollars or

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hundreds of millions of dollars. I see their political kind

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of compass checking coming at a very fortune time. Because

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the necessity that something new needs to come. I agree

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any of us are ever used to ever again. So

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mass people is basically to allow them to acquiesce to

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you building the next thing because something does have to come,

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Speaker 3: They won't. They won't have any choice, you know. I mean,

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it's the issue. It's like, we're going to do our

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own thing. Like the black folks who like leave a

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few miles away from me, They're going to do their

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own thing, Like the Spanish. Dude, they're gonna do their

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own thing. Like people want to live in some like

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multicultural environment. They're gonna do their own thing. And if

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people want to fuck it up, okay, bring your own army.

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You see that works out for you. Are you gonna

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die for some stupid principle because you think we're doing

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bad things? No, no one's going to do that.

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Speaker 2: Well think about it this way too, so you know,

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the Jews can do their own thing right now, they're

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wanting to do their own thing in Israel. But because

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Israel is such a antiquated state, I mean, it's it

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shouldn't exist because states like that don't exist anymore. It

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is it's almost like on a metaphysical level, it's being destroyed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Like process can't abite it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's also like that they can't even they don't

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even possess the will to defend it. Right, So like

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the Palestinians, they you know, you can tell a lot

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by October seventh by whose land that is, when you

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look at who left on October eighth, right.

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Speaker 3: Well, it just doesn't have a content anymore. Like Zionism

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is this weird. It's this weird pastiche of of of

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of like year of like nineteenth and early twentieth century

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kind of like European nationalisms. It's like this like racialized

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view of what it is to be Jewish. You know,

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it's like I said before, like why why do we

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really speak Hebrew? Like that's what that language? A liturgical language?

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Speaker 2: Like that?

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Speaker 3: Like I said before, I feel like if I corralled

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a bunch of kind of day one Americans, like from

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now on, we're gonna just write in Viking rooms and

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we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna be like the Aryan

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state of Odin or something.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Like there's this great book by this guy called When

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We Were Arab, Like he was a he was a

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guy who was like culturally Arab and he spoke Arabic,

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but like his family were like Arabic Jews. So I

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one day, these Hagana types come to his house and

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they tell him it's illegal for them to speak Arabic anymore.

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And he's like, what are you talking about? You know,

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like there's nothing organic about that. That's that's contrived as fuck,

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you know, and like this idea that I mean, yeah,

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there's there's like a biological component to heritage, but this

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idea that to be Jewish is to be part of

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this race and you can be an atheist, but you're

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part of the Jewish race. Like that's bizarre. Nobody thinks

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that way anymore, Like this way people thought in the

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nineteen thirties, you know, where it's like, oh, your blood

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makes you what you are and you're like programmed to

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behave a certain way. You know, Like no, no, like

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real jew like regardless of how whatever else he feels

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about his politics or how like prejudiced he might be like, no,

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real jew is like, yeah, I don't believe in God,

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but I'm part of this like Jewish race. Like that's

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that's retarded, you know. And that's one of the reasons

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why Zionism is collapsing and like that, because it doesn't

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make any sense, you know, and it can't like piece that.

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It can't like historically, it can't it can't like exist

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because it's too much like anachronism, you know, and it's

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all kind of stuff there too. Like zion has been

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weird because it's basically just like resentment paradigm where it's

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like it's it's not just it's kind of like robust

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nationalism like like Africaners would as guide to or or

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like or like or like Ulster Prads who are like

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hardline and they're in they're kind of sectarian viewpoint. It's

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like it's like Zionism is always based on like hating

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other people and looking at other people is like not

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legitimately having political interests and like not being you know,

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it's not it's not like it's not just like what's

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good for the goose is good for the gander. Nationalism,

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it's like, you're all pieces of ship. Only I matter,

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Only I have political interests. Only what I want is legitimate.

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So anything you say like has to serve what I

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want because you're just not even human. Like I'm not exaggerating.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: And nobody thinks that way with zions.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's also based on it's based upon what it

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is in its modern day, upon something that happened eighty

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years ago. And they basically it's stuck. While people like

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Mark Andresen and while people like Elon Musk are talking

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about let's go to the stars, let's go to Mars,

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let's do this, Zionism is stuck in playing this nineteenth

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century role of tribalism that it just basically renders. It

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renders it useless except to people who have beds. Yeah, well,

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and well, it renders it useless except to people who

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have been brainwashed to believe that it needs to exist

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for a certain reason. I forget who said it was.

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He said, it's like you want to have an It's

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like the United States and the wet and certain powers

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in the West want to have an aircraft carrier in

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the Middle East, but it's the worst aircraft carrier possible

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because no one wants to serve on it. And as

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soon as a bottle rocket gets fired anywhere, a quarter

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of the population leaves.

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Speaker 3: So there's also you can't I mean just the degree

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to which is pathological, Like I'm trying to explain to

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people to like, especially if they pull the duney car like, oh,

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Israel's like South Africa was, It's like, no, it's not

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because South Africa was a lied to the elements the goal.

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They were allied with the Zulus, you know, they were

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allied with this entire constellation of like non africaners like

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Israelis literally make ops of everybody on this planet. They're

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worth the Sunnis, they're aworth, the Shia, they're worth, the Yellowhites,

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they're worth, the Salafis, they're a worth, the Seculars, they

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are worth the Iranians. Like, how how can you make

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an op of everybody on this planet? I mean obviously

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the problem is you if that's the case, getting normal,

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you know, in this idea that like basically the uh

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the like like the natural ally of like a normal

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Western government, and the movie would be like Syria you're

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the secular government. It it it carouses the sectarian divide.

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It's Alleyites are probably occulted Oriental Christians if they weren't.

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It's run by like a white guy who was educated

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in London. So the American view is like this man

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in this country, you must be annihilated, and we're gonna

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hire like Salafi mercenaries and cut off people's heads to

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annihilate it. Because for some reason, nobody can explain like

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these Raelis can't get along with anybody else. I mean,

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I understand exactly why they can't. But you know, this

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is this is not rational politics, you know, and it's

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finally being exposed for what it is to even people

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who are very very slow on the uptake and aren't

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really cut out for understanding these things. But yeah, there's

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a naked irrationality to it. And it's also finally ramblings

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will stop in a minute, like this isn't this isn't

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the Cold War, and like you don't just like deploy

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to like random theaters and say like we need to

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find allies we can like train in our own image.

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It's like to what there's not some competing globalism, you know,

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they are they gonna be are they gonna be cultivated

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by the imaginary Soviet Union? Like it doesn't matter what

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anybody in Afghanistan or Iraq or at the end of

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the day in geo strategic terms, it matters ethical terms,

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but it does not matter what these people believe or

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like how they live their lives, like not a wit.

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This isn't the Cold War, And a lot of people

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in government just invoke that as an alibi cynically, but

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a lot of them really are that fucking stupid, you know,

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like they're they're unbelievably fucking stupid, and they like actually

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believe that that it's like some legitimate strategic orientation that

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you like occupy other countries and then like tell them

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that how they should run public school or like like

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say like you shouldn't join the Taliban or whatever, you know,

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whatever that means. Like it's it's incredible, it's like something

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it's there's something funny about it, but it's like something

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out of like a satire.

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Speaker 1: Well, I have a question. You guys are saying Zionism

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is collapsing. Do you mean zion as an ideology and

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also whether whether or not that's collapsing as an ideology.

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Do you also mean support for Israel within like it is?

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Speaker 4: It?

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Speaker 1: Is it collapsing within Israel ideologically and globally ideologically? And

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is are they also all right? So I'd like to

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kind of hear why, But i also want to ask

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if you think support for Israel within America is on

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the waan.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely people hate Israel, and not long ago saying like

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pointing out that this country is a is is this

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bizarre outlier that's an albatross populated by deranged bigots. If

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you pointed out that reality even like ten routeen years ago,

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like people would act like you said something unconsionable or

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sets or advocated something horrible or evil. You know, like

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nobody nobody thinks that we anymore, Like nobody likes Israel.

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You know, the fact that there's the fact that there's

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something like pathetic Hellbility preacher or something who gets paid

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by Leku to preach about Israel as holy, like nobody

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nobody believes in that. You know, people look at that's cringe,

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like people look at that as as ridiculous. And in

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terms of go ahead, sorry, In terms of the historical

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the ability to Zion, the ability of Zionism to endure historically.

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It's what I just said, It has no context, that

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there's no there's no dialectic that sustains it. It's just

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bizarre anachronism premised on epistemic prior is that nobody accepts anymore,

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and that don't even have a context anymore. It Zionism

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as we know it. It derived from the same nexus

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of of causation and dialogical processes as as the Marxist

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Leninism and national socialism. And obviously Israel is the only

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state that still exists that you know, it's based entergyology

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that derived from that same nucleus of operative causes. So

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it's you know, because it it doesn't make sense. That's

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why I like. That's why the that's why I like it.

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I mean, admittedly, like American discourse is incredibly stupid, but

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that's why these people don't even know how to like

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define Israel, like, oh, it's it's a democracy. It's like no,

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nobody claims that, Like nobody in Israel claims that. Nobody

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pretends that.

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Speaker 4: But they don't.

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Speaker 3: They don't know how else to define it as something

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that's like valid and legitimate to endorse, because not not

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just because they're intellectually impoverised, which they are, but there's

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no way to describe design a state because it's such

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an inachronism and nobody thinks that way anymore. So there's

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nothing to appeal to. There's not the reference points to

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make it cognizable. So it's done. It's dead. It's a

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it's a it's a zombie. Unfortunately, like as it dies,

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it's like hurting a lot of innocent people and our

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allies and places like Palestine and Syria. But deadline soon,

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and you know it's the future looks bright for humanity.

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There won't be in Israel anymore.

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Speaker 1: Well, putting our initial topic aside, would you would you

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care to speak about what's going on in Syria right

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now and the greater context You and Pete have a

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great series on Syria Russia relations and go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead. No.

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Speaker 3: I it's it's it's part of the same front as

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the Ukraine War and the reason why the reason why

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the Ukraine War was was launched, I mean the mass

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escalation whereby this kind of this this this like irrational

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like kind of like suicide attack on on the don

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Bass and this provocation of you know, tailored to the

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drull the Russian Federation and like open conflict on the

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frontier that is one hundred percent Israel and America is

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returning the serve for the loss they took in Syria

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at the hands of the Russian Federation. The Syrian Arab

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Army has gon iran, you know, because uh, Syria's to

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go in heights is a critical thear operational there is

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a critical staging point for in wrect fire and all

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kinds of other things, Okay. And also, uh, Siria is

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actually like a developed, advanced country. Like it's not idiot

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Americans like imagine it's like a buch of towel heads.

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It's like, no, it's it's it's actually full of cultured people,

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and it's as modern as anywhere else, you know. And

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it's a secular It's a secular regime that has proven

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remarkably durable. That's the reason why Bush forty one and

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Baker cultivated it, you know. And ah, they're so what

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America is doing now? Assad then uh, the Syriana of

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army and has blood in the Russian Federation. They fought

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off the effort to destroy the Syrian state, you know,

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like Israel and America and these Salafi proxies that they

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00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:20,319
were exploiting, like like isis so now Aragon it's a

474
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,400
third rate. Uh you know, nobody in a in a

475
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,039
in a goon and and a bully you know, like

476
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,160
uh Tel Aviv and Washington you know, undoubtedly bribed him,

477
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:36,400
you know, to to to to back up these uh,

478
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,359
these these Islamic terrorists you know, who are American and

479
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,200
Israel's favorite proxies. And then when Aragon realized like the

480
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:47,240
terps and a real fight and like the Russians and

481
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:51,599
the Syrian Air of Army, We're we're gonna actually resist,

482
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,920
you know, like suddenly he pumped out and and now

483
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,480
it's trying to de escalate. It's a it's a pathetic

484
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:59,519
gesture like as and it's it's just it's just trying

485
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:01,559
to burn Is this trying to rag up a body

486
00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:04,759
count like as the Ukraine disaster is coming to a

487
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:08,680
natural conclusion. But they're front of the same conflict. They're

488
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,720
not two different conflicts. They're the same conflicts, you know,

489
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:15,200
and people don't understand that, like don't understand like what's

490
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,359
happening today in the world. You know, Russia and Israel

491
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,119
are always at war. They're always ops Israel US Russia

492
00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:25,240
as their number one enemy, and they.

493
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: Are all right.

494
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: So question for the panel. You mentioned Ukraine and how

495
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:36,559
it's another front in the same conflict too. I'm pretty

496
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:40,640
convinced that the Ukraine War is going to end, or

497
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,680
at least our support for it's going to end. Ors

498
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,880
It's going to change in a major way when Trump

499
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,640
comes in. I think everybody in the Biden administration feels

500
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,799
that way too, which is why they gave Ukraine missiles

501
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:55,440
and Ukraine fired them. But it was a pretty weak gesture.

502
00:29:56,119 --> 00:29:58,720
So do you guys agree with that that Trump coming

503
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,920
in is gonna somehow alter, if not end the war

504
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,440
in Ukraine, or at least our support for it.

505
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: It's naturally ending anyway, but yeah.

506
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:18,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't hemorrhage this many people, this many men anymore.

507
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:24,240
It's I think that even as Zelenski's gotten to the

508
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,000
point where he knows that that that can't happen anymore,

509
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:33,200
that this this can't go on anymore. So yeah, that's

510
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:37,400
I think it's I think Trump will end it, or

511
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:40,960
Trump will be the force that ends it. But it's

512
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:44,759
dying already. I mean, it's there's no reason it should

513
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,319
there's no reason it should have went on after April

514
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:50,480
twenty twenty two. But yeah, our states.

515
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:53,839
Speaker 3: Also it's I mean, it's devoid of strategic logic. Like

516
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,559
the whole point of it was just to like wrack

517
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,799
up a body count, you know, the whole point it

518
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,839
was like hurt the iv NDS with attrition. You know,

519
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,720
this idea that you know, I mean, there's not even

520
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,160
really like I mean, would the only possible way for

521
00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:13,200
some kind of NCUE condition to ensue the Ukraine Armed Forces,

522
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,079
They'd have to they have to ethnically cleanse the don Vass.

523
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,839
Then they'd have to defeat their force of the Russian Federation.

524
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,240
They did'd have to chase the remainder of the armporce

525
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:28,519
of the Russian Federation into Russia, utilizing nuclear, biological and

526
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:32,359
chemical weapons on the way if necessary. Then they'd have

527
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,359
to annihilate what remained of the art force the Russian

528
00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:40,319
Federation and prevent them from reconstituting. Then they'd have to

529
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:45,119
be able to pressure and threaten Moscow to some kind

530
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,599
of draconian peace, whereby Moscow would advocate any claim to

531
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,920
the don Bass and would be precluded from deploying within

532
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,799
probably like fifty kilometers the frontier. There is no chance

533
00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:02,359
of that happening. It's like preposterous that that could ever happen.

534
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:08,880
So considering that from jump Ukraine war has been this

535
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:13,880
like little Zionist ratman like throw it, hurling the population

536
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,039
of Ukraine at Russia to like splatter on the Perubial

537
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:22,279
wall and like trying to rack up Russian casualties. Like meanwhile,

538
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:25,480
there's like this like legacy media apparatus declaring that like

539
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,680
you know, Ukraine's launching an offensive like it's I've never

540
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,240
seen it's it's bizarre, and it's it's incredible that the

541
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:37,119
Ukrainians want to like commit suicide for for Judea. But

542
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,839
I mean apparently they like it. Slave they're gonna slave.

543
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,839
Speaker 1: So well, first of all, I've had a hunch the

544
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,920
day I read that Aleppo was invaded by terrorists again

545
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,599
that they were just this was just an attempt to

546
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,559
stretch overstretch Russia and put pressure on them and maybe

547
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,440
distract them from the Ukrainian front. But with BIZI does

548
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,240
this put Russia in globally? You know, once Syria gets

549
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,119
restabilized and the Ukrainian war ends. Are they going to

550
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:11,640
be in a stronger position than they were before all

551
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,319
this or is it going to go back to the

552
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:14,240
way it was before.

553
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:18,119
Speaker 3: I mean, Russia was in a strong position, but they

554
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,160
were in a strong position they'd been in since nineteen

555
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,519
eighty nine. Have they defeated these terrorist proxies in the

556
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,559
United States and Israel and Syria because they proved that

557
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,799
in limited capacities, at least in key theaters, they can

558
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:36,680
protect power, and they can win, and they can operationally

559
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,720
integrate with their allies in a way that's you know,

560
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:44,640
a force multiplier that is capable of tipping the balance,

561
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:49,319
you know, like America as a joke, you know, you

562
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:51,759
tell me like that, Like the Russians can take thousands

563
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:58,000
of casualties, continue to remain, retain operational effectiveness in key theaters,

564
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:02,319
morale doesn't collapse, and they can deploy to the Near

565
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:05,799
East at relative scale, integrate with his Blood and the

566
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:11,719
Syrian Arab Army engaged Salafis on the ground, win and

567
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,599
basically challenge the IDEF and and US Special Operations Element

568
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:20,320
to come get us, you know, and with the US

569
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,199
Army is not gonna start taking like thousands of casualties,

570
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,679
like fightings of the Russian Federation they can't even handle like

571
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,840
twenty ka a week in Iraq, you know, Like so

572
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,159
it's a joke like this like hard talk out of

573
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,920
the Pentagon's a fucking joke. So Russia is a very

574
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:40,360
good standing Plus America is uh. America is a sponsor

575
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,320
of Islamic terrorism and unconditional ali of Israel. Like America's

576
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,119
universally hated man, you know, like we're fighting the war

577
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,079
on terrorists, so we're gonna try and kill people who

578
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:55,239
fight Islamic terrorists. People like America lost all credibility in

579
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,079
twenty eleven. Men, Like that's when it was over because

580
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:02,280
they started. They started like supporting El Kaita against a

581
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,239
secular government in Syria led by like a white eye

582
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,239
doctor educated in London. Like that's what America was done

583
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:10,880
on the power political stage.

584
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:17,679
Speaker 2: You know, you also have a world leader who unlike ours,

585
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:21,079
where we don't really have a leader. But what we

586
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:28,800
have is we have rabid basically politicians who at the

587
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:33,400
when a bullet is fired anywhere near one of their soldiers,

588
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:36,320
one of one of their soldiers, they want to they're

589
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,880
calling for war. They're calling I mean Putin. The greatest

590
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,039
strength of Putin is his patients. I mean, I don't

591
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,239
have the kind of patience he does. I don't I

592
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,679
would have invaded. I would have went into Ukraine in

593
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,559
twenty fifteen. But he waited, and he tried. He tried

594
00:35:55,639 --> 00:36:02,159
everything he could to avoid this and every provocation. He's

595
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:11,400
sat back, cool, consulted with Sergi Lavrov and his his people,

596
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:19,400
and he has not acted like the animal that our

597
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,320
animals accuse him of being. I mean, Lindsey Graham, this

598
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,840
incredible faggot. It talks a tough game and just wants

599
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,679
to be you know, wants to appear. I mean's he's

600
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,880
like butching out all over the place. But you really,

601
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:44,280
you can understand why people ask, okay, who owns him?

602
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,880
When you hear the rhetoric and then.

603
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,039
Speaker 3: It's just not credible. It's like America, you know, like

604
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:55,320
Russia produces it. I mean what I nobody has to

605
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,960
like the Russians, but you know, Russia produces like actual statesmen,

606
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,920
Like America's got Yeah, it's got like some bizarre It's

607
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,400
got some bizarre guy with a girl's name who like

608
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,559
runs around shrieking that he wants to kill people because

609
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:14,480
he's like pretending to be Jewish, or there's a there's

610
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:21,079
these hysterical there's there's these there's there's these historyonic uh

611
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:23,920
people in the State Department who go around like shrieking

612
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,400
at other countries. You know, you can't you can't consider

613
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,840
yourself a serious country, let alone a hedge ofm on

614
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:35,119
if that's your strategy is we go around shrieking at

615
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:40,039
people when we're not when we're not you know when

616
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,639
when when we're not listing about how we want we

617
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:45,719
want to kill everybody who who is an enemy of

618
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,800
Greater Judeo. Like nobody takes that seriously because it's it's

619
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,039
it's vulgar and insane and bizarre, you know, like it's

620
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:55,840
the pointment of like some like shitty hobo like yelling

621
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,880
at you on the subway, Like how do you even

622
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,559
respond to that?

623
00:37:59,559 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: You know?

624
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:03,079
Speaker 3: So, I mean, so the Russians ignore it because I

625
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:07,440
you know, you there's there's not anything being conveyed there.

626
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:08,679
Speaker 2: You know, it's just.

627
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 3: And uh, you know that's why I mean, the French

628
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,280
are getting kicked out of Africa as we speak. You know,

629
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,039
this stuff is the consequence of this a setting in

630
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,679
you know, and thank God for that. So yeah, that's

631
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:28,639
where we're at. It's just I mean, I I it

632
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,639
saddens me that, you know, again, like our allies and

633
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:35,079
places like Syria and Palestine are are dying, but you know,

634
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,400
and see like belongs to them ultimately. So that's the

635
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,239
thing to keep in mind.

636
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: It's it's interesting that, you know, anyone could argue against

637
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:52,079
what Thomas when Thomas talks about the vanguard, when you

638
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:55,800
consider that there are people who you know, try to

639
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,840
sidle up to us and online and you, oh, I'm

640
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,440
on your side and everything, and they're still buying into

641
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,920
all this. They're still buying into the Lindsay Graham stuff.

642
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,480
They're still buying into They still they throw around terms

643
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:15,719
like third worldist when you say, yeah, I mean the

644
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,320
Palestinians have been they've been savage for eighty years. Of

645
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,599
course they're going to fight back and they're fighting are in.

646
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,199
Speaker 4: Let's kill that term right now. Yeah.

647
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: I want to get into this because a rift formed.

648
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,599
I think there was already a rift, and now a

649
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:32,800
chasm has formed, and some people are on one side

650
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:36,199
and some people on the other side, and what I've

651
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,039
noticed in the online sphere, the online right, as they

652
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:44,599
call it, the Twitter right, is that some people basically

653
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:48,800
now they're indistinguishable from MSNBC and Fox News when they

654
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,280
talk about especially when they talk about Israel. And you

655
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,599
just mentioned Lindsay Graham. I mean, you have people who

656
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:56,480
two years ago were like posting Hitler memes and videos

657
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,880
of marching you know, SS soldiers who now sound ex

658
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,280
like Lindsay Grandma.

659
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: So they're not they're they're they're Internet guys. These guys

660
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,400
don't actually exist. They're there's they're like they're like playing

661
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,760
a video game, you know. So I mean it's like

662
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,039
it's important like tune out the flakes, you know, like

663
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:15,639
when people like I won't even like engage with those guys,

664
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,800
you know, like they like one of the what I

665
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,119
learned about is mom, and what I learned about Near

666
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:25,960
Eastern people I learned from like breaking bread with these

667
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,760
guys and ladies and and like hanging out with them,

668
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:30,880
you know. I mean, I I mean a personally, it's

669
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,599
not anybody's business, but you know I I got very

670
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:36,599
tight with some of these people I got in Baltimore.

671
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:38,679
That's why I went out there, you know. I mean,

672
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,320
I so like when I speak on them, it's like, well,

673
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,599
I mean these people are my friends, I know them,

674
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,199
these guys calling you like you were Also like a

675
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,760
third world is they're literally some like Internet guy and

676
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,880
some like weird Walmart town who like work some shitty job.

677
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,840
And then like they're they think, like saying like naughty

678
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,519
things is in the Internet. It's like what they do

679
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:04,360
instead of watching porno or something. That's like literally what

680
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,679
they are. Like they're not They're not right wing or

681
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,760
not anything. They're like he's the Internet guy. He's like

682
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,519
playing a video game, all.

683
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: Right, So what what is a third world is? Now

684
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:17,480
there's a difference between the origin of the term it

685
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:20,719
actually comes from the Cold War and the way it's

686
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,000
thrown about now. I don't know, Thomas, if you want

687
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:24,599
to take you know.

688
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:27,159
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there is no quote third world anymore.

689
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:31,360
I mean the three worlds are the first world is NATO,

690
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,599
the United States and l A. Element's. The second world

691
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,760
is warsaw packs and the socialist Comedia of Nations. The

692
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,639
third world the quote third world is everybody else, Like

693
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:42,320
it actually doesn't have They never had to do with

694
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,840
like level of development, like there could be like hyper

695
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,599
developed states that were third world. It had to do

696
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,840
with like where they fell in the cold or paradigm

697
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,880
and in strategic and military emarms.

698
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: Third world.

699
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,039
Speaker 3: I mean not use it this.

700
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:01,079
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

701
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,679
Speaker 1: I was distinguishing it between what what is the third world?

702
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,159
Where is it located on the globe, which typically globe

703
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:13,960
the global South, but more importantly third world isn't which

704
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:17,800
was like a communist tactic to to recruit the third world,

705
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:20,000
And there was something.

706
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 3: There was something, Yeah, I mean the Soviet Union did

707
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:30,039
very well at cultivating proxies and in places like Southeast Asia,

708
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,599
in places like Latin America, in places like Septern and Africa.

709
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,599
But I mean that's yeah, okay, I mean I I

710
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:38,360
if you want to take this spingle Aerian view that

711
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,400
like communism was a colored revolt, yeah, I guess there's

712
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,519
some truth to that. But like this, I mean as

713
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:47,559
nine anyway, like even if like even if what these

714
00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:50,440
like internet flakes like said was true about somebody like

715
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:56,320
near anybody else, again, there's not, there's only globalism and

716
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,599
the resistance that there's nothing else, right, you know, there's

717
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:02,119
not there's not like there's there's not like a bunch

718
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:05,320
of like Western countries. Then there's like these other countries

719
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,800
that are the third world, who somehow are constantly some

720
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,719
like independent power base. There's only there's only globalism and

721
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,199
the resistance. Plus I mean, I don't, I don't. I

722
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:18,880
don't fuck with that kind of stuff anyway, becas I'm

723
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,199
not I'm not a freaking I'm not something like goofy

724
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:27,920
like white nationalists. I mean, like I I uh, I don't.

725
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,599
Nobody has to think like me, and I don't care

726
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:31,440
if people like me or not or what I think

727
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:35,840
or not. But you've got to deal with non white

728
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,280
people because they're a huge percentage of this planet and

729
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,719
only for I live there. They are the people who

730
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,880
are all around me. I am not gonna like being

731
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:46,400
I'm not gonna like run around making ops of everybody

732
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,760
to like impress Internet guys, you know, like I I don't.

733
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,119
To me, what white power is is the fact that

734
00:43:55,519 --> 00:44:01,119
because I'm master cast basically like everybody responds to me

735
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:04,880
positively who's like we're talking to And I don't fuck

736
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,519
with people who weren't who I don't view as like

737
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:10,639
superior in some way, like regardless of their cast or race,

738
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,199
and that's how you rule, you know, running around like

739
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,800
being something like biggity idiot. That's basically basically you're acting

740
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,480
like Jewish.

741
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I don't.

742
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to ask Jewish.

743
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,599
Speaker 2: Sorry. And one thing that people have to remember is

744
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:36,400
that there were, yeah, before the whole Brown Versus Board

745
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:42,440
of Education, Civil Rights Act all this stuff, the blacks

746
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,000
were doing pretty good in this country. And one of

747
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,280
the reasons why, and I'll just come right out and

748
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,639
say it is because basically whites kept them in line.

749
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: And they had one of one of the things. Thomas

750
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,719
So I don't think think that great actual or anything,

751
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,360
but he does make some good points, like really all

752
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,199
I mean, it's like the quote civil rights movement is

753
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,000
aside from like ethnic cleansing white ethnic neighborhoods under rosics

754
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:15,159
is a some ethical imperative, you know. And also it

755
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:17,920
basically just like robbed like the Black community of of

756
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,719
like their natural leadership cast and uh it's like okay,

757
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,039
like go go figure it out by yourselves. To everybody else,

758
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,320
I mean, like it's it basically food bart them. Well,

759
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,400
it's also you know this idea that black folks really

760
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,239
really really want to live like on the West Side

761
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,760
of Chicago. We really want to live like in the Bronx.

762
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:40,559
They if they have their way, they leave. And that's

763
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:42,960
why this is when it's like mass exodus out of Chicago.

764
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,719
I mean, who they help wants to live in some

765
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,599
like cold, gray, like brutal city, like especially if you're

766
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:54,519
people who were you know, frankly like evolved to live

767
00:45:54,599 --> 00:46:00,320
in in like desert and tropical environments. I mean then

768
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,039
so basically all these problems derived from like forced integration

769
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:09,039
and social engineering. You know, like I like people up

770
00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:12,760
the room devices is like suddenly these problems evaporate, you know.

771
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:14,960
I mean, yeah, there's always going to be like tensions

772
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,519
between populations, but like this idea that there's like this

773
00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:21,800
ongoing war between like all races for no reason, Like

774
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,320
that's fucking returned and that's not reality.

775
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: Well also, you know if you come down if he

776
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,760
come down to the South. Okay, so say you have

777
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,079
a town that's like seventy five percent white, twenty five

778
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:37,920
percent black out in this out in rural areas that

779
00:46:38,039 --> 00:46:42,880
didn't happen through engineering, that's just natural, and those when

780
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,119
they go to the local piggy wiggly and a black

781
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:50,519
person walks by a white person, they say Hi, yeah, yeah,

782
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:55,320
and they get along. And black people have their own neighborhoods.

783
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,480
White people have their live in certain places in the

784
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:04,360
same town. I'm talking about small town, and you rarely

785
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,400
see anything jump off. Usually it's when if you have

786
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:14,400
a high concentration in one place of blacks and very poor,

787
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,400
you'll start seeing real problems. But like in Alabama, well,

788
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:20,519
where do you think, where do you think the black

789
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:24,559
crime is. It's in Montgomery, It's in it's in Birmingham,

790
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,960
it's in Tuskegee. It's in two huge cities and one

791
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:30,760
city that is ninety eight percent black.

792
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:34,679
Speaker 3: Well, it's also these people don't like these internet guys

793
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:40,159
and these lamees like, look, I I've believed here in

794
00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:44,039
my whole life, I've been fucking homeless.

795
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: Here.

796
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: People don't need to like explain to me like what

797
00:47:48,119 --> 00:47:50,239
black folks are like, and they don't need to explain

798
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,239
to me like how depraved like they can be. But

799
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,199
you know, a lot of like the hood bullshit that

800
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,480
goes on is like people don't understand like where it's

801
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:04,119
coming from. It's not it's not just like guys like

802
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,400
locking and loading and saying I'm gonna go fuck up

803
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:11,679
white people today, it's like this weird dynamic that doesn't

804
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:15,639
really have to do with anybody with black folks, and

805
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,079
sometimes other people get caught in the cross, either like

806
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:21,719
white or Spanish or other, and then it becomes like

807
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,440
a racial matter, and then like really bad things happen,

808
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,840
and like, don't get me wrong, I think any who

809
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,800
asking a wilding exposition expedition, if I'm my way, they'd

810
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,840
like be hanging from fucking lamp posts like after a

811
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,840
drumhead corn marshall. So I'm not at all soft on that,

812
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:44,800
but it's like corny if when when these motherfuckers act

813
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,840
like like blacks are like just out to fuck you

814
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,599
up for no reason, Like that's fucking cornball, like pussy bullshit.

815
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: I think it's I think they're scared and they've never

816
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,480
seen a black person. That's how it comes across, and.

817
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,159
Speaker 4: That's the problem. Probably these most of these people have

818
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,960
never had anything bad happen to them there.

819
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,159
Speaker 1: Entirely, yeah, exactly, and it's nothing.

820
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 4: They've never had any success, they've never had any real

821
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:14,400
tragedy happened to them. They've had nothing, all right, So

822
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,280
They will sit there and post about how having a

823
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,840
wife and a family is gay without ever having getting

824
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,679
their dick wet. They will tell you that it will

825
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,599
keep you from success and achieving great things, when they

826
00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:33,000
themselves have achieved no great things and have no success.

827
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 3: It's pretty that's insightful. It's just uh, I mean to me,

828
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:40,599
I mean, like I said, I don't claim to have

829
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,880
like great insight into my fellow man or woman, but

830
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,960
I literally live at like ground zero of like of

831
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:54,639
like shit. So like when people like you're guys like

832
00:49:54,679 --> 00:50:02,320
you do with blicks or like I'm like, okay.

833
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: Well, well if if we can go back to the

834
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,800
third world is term that's being hurled around because it

835
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,320
is being hurled around. And as much as I agree

836
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,239
with Thomas that these are just guys on the Internet

837
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,199
playing a video game, it is where a lot of

838
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,599
the discourse.

839
00:50:13,159 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: Had getting boosted. Let's just be they're.

840
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: Getting boosted and stuff that's coming out of the sphere

841
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:24,039
is really making actual having having an actual impact on politics.

842
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:28,480
And you know, Elon Musk randomly retweets people and comments,

843
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,920
so it's it's it's making its way all the way up.

844
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:33,440
So Stormy, what do.

845
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 4: You think you've listened to the most recent Jay Well,

846
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,599
I don't want to. I don't want to doc some

847
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,400
or throw them under the bus. But some of the

848
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,679
most recent you know, Joe Rogan, guests or whatever, Yeah,

849
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,400
seem to be saying a lot of this stuff that.

850
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're paying attention I've said.

851
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 4: And things I've heard that I know Thomas has said,

852
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,760
and things I know that I've heard Pete has said.

853
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,199
And let's put it this way, if you have wandered

854
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:04,920
and you are tiny and the Internet, then you probably

855
00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:11,800
believe some heterodox ideas and convincingly believe them right like.

856
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 3: You there's well, we do definitely has a it has

857
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,440
an outsized impact, and it's like crazy to me the

858
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:24,519
reach of it, like with like legit, I've totally that before.

859
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:27,639
I'm not like stroking myself or something like. My only

860
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:31,119
point is, look, there's there's guys who do like have

861
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:36,199
that impact. Then they're just like random motherfucking nobody's who

862
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:39,239
are like dropping cap about. There's a third world is

863
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:42,280
you know, and it's like Okay, you're something like random

864
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,119
fucking faggot, like nobody cares what you think. Like that's

865
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:50,440
the difference. Yeah, well it's also I mean, who's like

866
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:52,639
whose ideas have been taken seriously? I mean it wasn't

867
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,679
be like a Greek course of idiots who like think

868
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,559
that they're being like edgy if they like I'm a

869
00:51:57,679 --> 00:52:00,280
race realist and I bitch about hood rats or you know,

870
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:04,400
okay man, Like that's that's basically like that's basically been

871
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,599
like the subtext of of what the of what what?

872
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:11,679
Like Mitt Romney types like like talk about like you

873
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,599
know when when they're not like on a record or whatever,

874
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:17,119
it's it's fucking it's like it's like it's like lame

875
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:19,440
o bullshit, but it's very soon.

876
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 4: Well, like the guys they talk about white supremacy hold

877
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,639
like they need to convince themselves of it. I'm sorry.

878
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,360
I go to China and the Chinaman dresses like me.

879
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,159
He tries to talk like me, he tries to use

880
00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:36,840
my technology. I go to India. The Indian man, he

881
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,559
tries to talk like me, he tries to dress like me,

882
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:45,239
he uses my technology, he dreams my dreams. He's America.

883
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,760
All we wants a house and tires.

884
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,039
Speaker 2: Like.

885
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they everyone wants what they can't have, right, No.

886
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 3: But that's why this idea.

887
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,599
Speaker 4: White white, white supremacy is reality. Like no, I live

888
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:04,840
in it every day, So like you shouldn't have to

889
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,159
be worried about these people. There's only one group of

890
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:10,480
people that have accumulated enough power to challenge my group

891
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:13,159
of people, right, there's only one group of people that

892
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,000
have made it there. Ri is on Deetra to come

893
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:19,679
after my people and marginalize my people in my institutions.

894
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,920
So there's really only one OP. I only have one OP.

895
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:25,760
If you're not talking about that OP, then you're not

896
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,599
on my team exactly.

897
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,039
Speaker 3: And that's why that's why I tune out like nine

898
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:32,639
of these fools, because they got nothing to do with me. Yeah,

899
00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:33,400
go ahead, I'm sorry.

900
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:36,079
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad Stormy said that though, because that's why

901
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,920
I I don't want to get off the term third

902
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,599
world ist, because I wanted to make.

903
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:45,599
Speaker 5: Other Palestinians do I that's exact Palestinian occupied government, motherfucker.

904
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:46,599
Speaker 1: That's why I'm bringing it up.

905
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,519
Speaker 5: I had the PDL, you know coming to shut down

906
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:54,360
my accounts. Is the PDL, the Palestinian Defamation League, you know,

907
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,760
coming to fuck up my ship and take away you know,

908
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,679
my PayPal or whatever, like get real.

909
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a smear. It's a smear thrown at

910
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,840
people who voice support for the Palestinians in any regard,

911
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,280
be it Hamas or be at the innocent Palestinians who

912
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,960
are being killed, people who voice support for Hezbollah. They're

913
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,440
the ones who are called being called third worldists.

914
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, some I'm sorry, Like I don't have a brother

915
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:22,119
anymore because a bunch of you faggots lied a bunch

916
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:25,599
of young kids after committing a terrorist attack on my

917
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,679
country to go fight a misguided war in the Middle East. Right,

918
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:33,480
I don't have any family members killed by any Palestinians, Iranians,

919
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:36,280
even Russians, Like, I'm sorry, you're my enemy.

920
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 3: Well that and it's also, like I said, these guys

921
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,360
don't have any dick skin in the game. They're they're

922
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,599
guys exactly. They're just like tgging some shit because you know,

923
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,119
they they've can fagility of this kind of like fake worldview,

924
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:55,079
like out of like Internet and legacy media. Like it

925
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:57,760
doesn't I mean, I people call me all people say

926
00:54:58,039 --> 00:55:00,360
I like hate shit constantly and I'm not playing murder.

927
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,559
It's like whatever, I mean that nobody puts a gun

928
00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:03,960
to my head and makes me do things I do,

929
00:55:04,159 --> 00:55:08,000
but I give I can't possibly give like less of

930
00:55:08,039 --> 00:55:11,159
a fuck than like what some like internet cook like

931
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:15,039
thinks about the fact that, like I don't hate Moslims

932
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:17,639
and like they're my friends. I mean it's like that's

933
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:20,559
that's that's awesome man. And plus two, like you shouldn't

934
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,039
men shouldn't be like worried about other men are doing

935
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:27,719
and thinking they're like my friends and obviously I'm like

936
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,119
invested in them, you know, and like that they're doing well.

937
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:33,239
They're like my ops who I want to keep track

938
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,440
of because they may try and kill me or something like.

939
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:39,000
Beyond that, I why do I give a fuck what

940
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:41,599
other men are doing? This Like it's all gossip about

941
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:44,480
this other guy and call him names because he thinks

942
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:46,920
the wrong thing is that's like a real feminine energy,

943
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,559
you know, it's like real, that's like serious bitch iis

944
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:53,000
among everything else aside that's like fucked up with It's.

945
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: It's also extremely immature because typically what they end up

946
00:55:56,039 --> 00:55:59,159
calling these people they call their ops gay, like fucking

947
00:55:59,199 --> 00:56:02,679
I haven't people haven't done that since like twelve years old.

948
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,559
It's like you got to come up with something better.

949
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:06,480
So the thing they come up with this third world

950
00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:09,119
ist but you know, for for the listener and for

951
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,880
someone who's sort of on the sidelines, are just a spectator.

952
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,800
This is a tried and true tactic of the neo

953
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,000
cons and the Zionists to call anybody who opposes American

954
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:22,760
foreign policy that supports Israel a leftist. This is They've

955
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,360
always done it. I mean, Joan Goldberg. I just read

956
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,599
an article by Joan Goldberg from two thousand and three

957
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:36,400
and nationally reviewed calling Pat calling Pat Buchanan a leftist

958
00:56:36,519 --> 00:56:39,280
because he didn't fucking support the Iraq war. And to

959
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,280
this day, you can go on Twitter and say you

960
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,159
don't support Israel's war and you'll be called a leftist.

961
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,960
And that's what the third world is slant slander is

962
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,280
it's calling you a leftist.

963
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's calling it calling you a leftist. But it's

964
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:57,519
our John Goldberg's not in our camp, Oh he's our op.

965
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,280
These are people who are adjacent to us and even

966
00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:04,800
might do podcasts with us, but then they come out

967
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,280
with this bullshit and it's like, well, yeah, I mean,

968
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,159
what are you trying to accomplish here by shipping all

969
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:16,440
over people who are willing to listen to you and

970
00:57:16,519 --> 00:57:19,039
hang out with you and break bread with you. Well,

971
00:57:19,239 --> 00:57:20,880
fuck you, then I mean real.

972
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,599
Speaker 1: Because they're Zionis, and then we become we get we

973
00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:26,280
get hip to it, and then they.

974
00:57:26,199 --> 00:57:32,599
Speaker 4: Just they're scared. Let's just think about the.

975
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,599
Speaker 1: Other because they see they see the tide they got exposed,

976
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:35,360
and they see the tides turning against them.

977
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,679
Speaker 4: So I would say those are the actual Zionists, the

978
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,480
actual the actual conversos will say, right, But then they're

979
00:57:43,519 --> 00:57:45,960
the other guys, the guys that Thomas is more talking about,

980
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,320
the guys that will come into comments and you know

981
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,400
you don't hate you don't hate blacks and off or

982
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,760
you don't hate this or keeping off right, why are

983
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,719
you focusing on these guys they're basically Europeans anyways or whatever, Like, No,

984
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,360
you've come up with a clever ideology that lets you

985
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:06,039
edgy without actually attacking anything that could have negative consequences

986
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:10,800
on you. All right, You've somehow twisted your worldview to

987
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:17,039
take your enemy's enemy, thinking like that that will make

988
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:19,960
you safe, like nobody cares? Then, all right, so okay,

989
00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:24,679
the power structures enemy is the same people your enemy is, Like, Okay,

990
00:58:24,719 --> 00:58:27,239
you should go work at the State Department or like

991
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,199
you should go like work at some ngo. You're not

992
00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:33,159
on my team.

993
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,639
Speaker 3: Well no, that's why. That's why, Like I'm always I mean,

994
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,599
I think people getting mad because they think they think

995
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:41,480
I'm like talking to some a shit or something. But

996
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:45,320
I'm constantly It's gotten better, lay leagues. I think people

997
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,119
realize like all the second make fun of them and

998
00:58:47,639 --> 00:58:51,400
and you know, until they want to commit suicide. But

999
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,239
these fools like wash up, I don't like platforms, like

1000
00:58:55,679 --> 00:58:58,400
we got to do this. I'm like, you're nobody to meet.

1001
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,400
You're some like random fucking faya, Like there's no we Like,

1002
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,079
who the hell are you?

1003
00:59:02,199 --> 00:59:02,639
Speaker 2: Man?

1004
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,199
Speaker 3: Like I know you, I'm like accountable to you. It's

1005
00:59:06,199 --> 00:59:08,000
like you just go to like random people in the

1006
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,760
street and tell them their business because like because they're

1007
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:16,079
part of a we like you know, I It's it's ridiculous,

1008
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,880
you know, like I got these people got nothing to

1009
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,280
do with anything I do. Man, you know, like and

1010
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,199
I don't I don't know why, you know, Like I said,

1011
00:59:24,199 --> 00:59:26,719
I've been out and about and I've had like random

1012
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,239
idiots come up to me and like they think they've

1013
00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:31,440
obviously like never read or listened to anything I say.

1014
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,159
They think I'm like a meme or something, and they

1015
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:36,760
think I'm like some guy like like like tells like

1016
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,119
in word jokes or something, or they think I'm like

1017
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:42,599
I don't know what they think, but you know it's

1018
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,719
I've been I'm not I'm not running for office and

1019
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,119
I'm not trying to like make friends on the internet.

1020
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,679
So if anything, man, if there's like some quorum of

1021
00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:57,239
these fucking fagots like saying like I like like like

1022
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,239
giving me stroke and stuff, I think that I was

1023
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,719
fucking up man, because I'm you know, you can't judge people,

1024
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,400
not just maind the company they keep. But if like

1025
01:00:06,679 --> 01:00:10,039
a bunch of dickheads think you're cool, like probably you're

1026
01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:14,000
like a dickhead too, you know, and uh I uh

1027
01:00:14,719 --> 01:00:15,920
you know, that would concern me.

1028
01:00:16,039 --> 01:00:16,239
Speaker 2: Man.

1029
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 3: If that's the kind of a that's the kind of

1030
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,480
a ship that was sticking to my shoes.

1031
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 2: Man. You know I've been yeah, I've been doing this

1032
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,960
a while with the podcast and putting out tons of

1033
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:37,079
content thanks to Thomas uh the you know how rare

1034
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:41,000
it is that somebody who actually listens and somebody who

1035
01:00:41,079 --> 01:00:47,280
actually like will give me two five ten dollars a

1036
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,079
month so that I can do this on a full

1037
01:00:49,119 --> 01:00:55,880
time basis. Like comes at me, it's like happened twice.

1038
01:00:56,159 --> 01:00:59,480
I mean these the people are out there, I mean

1039
01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:01,639
the other the people who come at you.

1040
01:01:02,239 --> 01:01:04,519
Speaker 4: It's like, that's a very good that's an interesting point.

1041
01:01:05,079 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have people who come at me and they'll

1042
01:01:07,519 --> 01:01:09,880
be you know, like if you have a private telegram group,

1043
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,960
the greatest moderation for it is you have to pay

1044
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,280
five dollars a month to get in. Yeah, you don't

1045
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,159
have to moderate it at all. And the but you'll

1046
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,320
whenever somebody comes at me and they're like, oh, I

1047
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,679
listen to your show, is you know what? And everything,

1048
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,360
it's like usually I'm like, okay, well, if you listen

1049
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,400
to my show all the time, what you're saying is

1050
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,840
you'll know what you're saying is not true. And second

1051
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,719
of all, you're not in my telegram group, right, Oh

1052
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:44,400
well yeah, it's like you're Nope, you're a you're a

1053
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:49,159
disrespectful prick and you're just you're looking you want something

1054
01:01:49,159 --> 01:01:51,599
for free it all.

1055
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 3: So it's people sort of genuinely they're just genuinely nuts.

1056
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,639
So this is about a year and a half ago.

1057
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,360
But this one guy and then one of his one

1058
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,679
of his homies or something, they were like sending me

1059
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,400
this kind of like really kind of personal hate shit.

1060
01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:12,039
And they apparently thought I was some other like random

1061
01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:15,320
guy who like vaguely kind of like was like a

1062
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,719
white dude who like posts a lot of selfies and

1063
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,719
like a leather jacket. And I'm like, I don't know

1064
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:22,920
who you think I am, but I'm like, not that dude.

1065
01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:25,000
But what about when you said this, I'm like, bro,

1066
01:02:25,039 --> 01:02:28,199
I didn't say that, you know, like, oh, yeah, you're

1067
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:30,400
girlfriends pig. I'm like, bro, I don't have a girl,

1068
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,639
Like who do you think I am? And I couldn't

1069
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:35,719
register like I wasn't just like a random guy, you know,

1070
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,559
because in their mind, I think it all like blends together, like, oh,

1071
01:02:38,639 --> 01:02:40,719
this guy, this guy is like a racist guy who

1072
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,559
kind of looks like that other guy. I did the

1073
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:45,199
same person, and I thought, to other people, there's something

1074
01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:47,360
actually kind of profound about it. I mean, I'm not

1075
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,639
saying like something profound about idiots saying.

1076
01:02:49,519 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 4: No, that sounds like it sounds like a different racial group,

1077
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:54,760
because to them, we really all do look the same

1078
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,480
and you know, it's a mutual.

1079
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 3: I think these guys are white dudes, but they were

1080
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,599
just like it it like it like didn't compute that,

1081
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,960
Like I wasn't this other guy.

1082
01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1083
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,159
Speaker 3: It's like everybody somehow like blends together and you're like, oh,

1084
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,320
you're like recist white guy. I'm intered it, you know.

1085
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,599
Like and there's like one of the dudes who does

1086
01:03:14,639 --> 01:03:19,119
a bunch of he's actually an interesting guy, like he

1087
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:21,360
he's one of those guys who started out with kind

1088
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,800
of like a prison podcast, like right when he got

1089
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,559
out of the joint. But he was getting hate from

1090
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:29,760
this guy like I apparently thought he was like that

1091
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,800
Wes Watson idiot. And he's like, bro, like I'm not

1092
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,320
like Wes Watson. I don't you know, Like I don't

1093
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,559
know why you think that I am. And this dude's

1094
01:03:37,559 --> 01:03:39,719
like insisting, like, oh, bro, but you said just that that.

1095
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,480
He's like no, like Wes Watson said that, Like who's

1096
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:43,239
that do you think I am?

1097
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,239
Speaker 4: You think I'm like he's like like prison b face

1098
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,960
like boiled out into like the outside world. Yeah, scooped

1099
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,360
you up. Yeah that could actually be kind of serious.

1100
01:03:53,559 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: No, it's it's nuts and like I said, like the

1101
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,000
it seemed like surreal, like not one but like two guys.

1102
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:02,920
Is like that turns out they was say gas lighting either.

1103
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,920
They're like no, they would just think I'm like this

1104
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:11,280
other dude, you know, and it's like yeah, yeah, it's so.

1105
01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 4: The one thing. And I think Astral will be kind

1106
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,280
of cranky that he stepped out for this. Uh this parks,

1107
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,239
I know, it's something that really kind of aggravates him

1108
01:04:18,239 --> 01:04:24,239
A great deal. Is like the the absolute use you said,

1109
01:04:24,239 --> 01:04:28,199
the episoute state of the are counter signalers. I guess

1110
01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:31,280
both on the third world is an issue and also

1111
01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:38,400
on the a lot of the I mean, I don't

1112
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,559
even I don't even want to say that, like things

1113
01:04:41,639 --> 01:04:45,480
like marriage and family formation would ever be an issue

1114
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:49,480
to anybody that you know is semi raised conscious at all.

1115
01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 3: But yet it is, well again, these these these guys,

1116
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,440
they're they're just externalizing their personal resentments, you know, and

1117
01:04:57,559 --> 01:05:01,440
they they can't. So it's like they they've got problems

1118
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,760
with females or they had, you know, some some girl

1119
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,639
like kind of unceremoniously did them dirty. So now it's

1120
01:05:09,719 --> 01:05:11,920
like I'm gonna make I'm gonna pretend it's a political

1121
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,400
imperative that I've got to an ax to grind with

1122
01:05:14,519 --> 01:05:17,480
females or like or it'll be like some like some

1123
01:05:17,639 --> 01:05:20,400
like fucking hood reps like whoop my ass or like

1124
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,199
made me feel like a pump. So I'm gonna go,

1125
01:05:23,239 --> 01:05:26,000
I'm gonna ground being like a super nigger hater because

1126
01:05:26,119 --> 01:05:28,920
like these guys made me feel like a pomp, you know.

1127
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,599
And again it's like a real like feminine energy, like

1128
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:34,320
like politics isn't personal, Like that's all point it is,

1129
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,000
Like that's why I like there's a there's an intrinsic

1130
01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:39,519
brutality because it's like not personal. You gotta like put

1131
01:05:39,519 --> 01:05:41,840
your feelings aside and just like stand on business.

1132
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 4: That's true.

1133
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: I just want to say my opinion is that in

1134
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,800
right wing discourse, pretty much the only thing that needs

1135
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,719
to be said about women at all is that you

1136
01:05:54,719 --> 01:05:57,119
should marry them and make babies with them and maintain

1137
01:05:57,119 --> 01:06:01,880
a healthy relationship through thick through and through difficulty. So

1138
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:03,719
I don't know how you guys feel about that, but

1139
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,159
all this other stuff is just noise that like it's fine,

1140
01:06:08,199 --> 01:06:10,159
people can talk about whatever the fuck they want. It's

1141
01:06:10,159 --> 01:06:12,599
social media. But to come around and try to say,

1142
01:06:12,639 --> 01:06:17,039
like you know with me, Yeah, that's what I'm saying,

1143
01:06:17,079 --> 01:06:19,199
like do your thing, But like why do you have

1144
01:06:19,239 --> 01:06:21,360
to try to make it about this like you know,

1145
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,159
movement or whatever we want to call it.

1146
01:06:23,159 --> 01:06:26,119
Speaker 3: Because like I said, it's like it's dudes, like it's

1147
01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:29,719
it's like feminine energy. You guys like externalizing their like

1148
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,920
personal resentments and trying to turn into something like ideological

1149
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,679
and imperative. I just I just get pissed off and

1150
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,159
like some guys you should know better. Women are all

1151
01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:42,000
stupid and too emotional. I'm like, bro, I I'll take

1152
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:45,719
like a downy as female over like five like fucking

1153
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,079
faggot Mama's Boys or like race traders and you get

1154
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:52,000
a fucking week. You know, it's like a it's it's

1155
01:06:52,039 --> 01:06:54,920
it's weak. You sound like you you yourself sound like

1156
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,000
a weak bitch if you like women are stupid, you know,

1157
01:06:58,119 --> 01:07:01,079
like it's like it's like talk that makes you a bitch,

1158
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,559
Like yeah, anybody.

1159
01:07:04,159 --> 01:07:09,719
Speaker 4: But anybody that knows is women are attracted to authority, right,

1160
01:07:09,719 --> 01:07:12,639
Like that's what they really like a right, So basically

1161
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,039
what you're saying is like that women are just these dumb,

1162
01:07:17,159 --> 01:07:23,480
useless people. But in fact, if you're that guy all right,

1163
01:07:23,519 --> 01:07:26,039
that she views in that authority right, not only will

1164
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:29,519
she listen to you in whatever you say and follow

1165
01:07:29,559 --> 01:07:32,239
your lead, that woman will be the only person in

1166
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:37,000
your life that will crawl over broken glass to help you.

1167
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:43,119
Speaker 3: Well, ask God, these guys, I guarantee you I'd stak.

1168
01:07:44,039 --> 01:07:47,280
I'd steak like my left arm on it. These guys

1169
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,920
like Mama's boys, like trying to convince themselves. They're hord

1170
01:07:50,119 --> 01:07:52,719
You're you're like like forteen pitches. You're like, I grew

1171
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,840
up in an old male household because my mom bounced

1172
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,559
when I was like twelve, did you like intermittently came back?

1173
01:07:57,559 --> 01:07:59,320
And I love my mom, but she was like literally

1174
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,280
even insane for person like this idea that it's like

1175
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,039
awesome to be around only dude, it's like, man like,

1176
01:08:05,079 --> 01:08:06,519
one of the reasons it was awesome and I was

1177
01:08:06,519 --> 01:08:08,400
like old enough to move out is like be around

1178
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:09,119
girls a lot.

1179
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: You know.

1180
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,679
Speaker 3: It's like if you like, if there's a reason why,

1181
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,319
like the women in prison, because like prison fucking sucks,

1182
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:20,840
and that's whole point, you know, like uh like like yeah,

1183
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,800
like there's nobody like lower than a simp. But I

1184
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,840
get like any any motherfucker who like wants to talk

1185
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,600
about it, like how much he hates and bitches that

1186
01:08:30,079 --> 01:08:33,039
I make the assumption he's either like a closet dick

1187
01:08:33,119 --> 01:08:36,079
sucker or he's like something what you like, it's like

1188
01:08:36,119 --> 01:08:37,760
feels like he can't get laid.

1189
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can't get laid.

1190
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, or some combination. I mean, I it's even I mean,

1191
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:44,760
I don't know, I mean I but yeah, I don't.

1192
01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:48,880
I lose the respect for anybody who's like external like

1193
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,560
whereas their resentments on their sleeve.

1194
01:08:51,319 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 4: You know, some of you guys I've met in real life,

1195
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,760
some of you I hope to meet in real life soon.

1196
01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:58,960
But every single one of you guys that I have met,

1197
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,640
has no problem getting laid. Oh, I mean, especially to

1198
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,359
the women that you're married to and astro in your case.

1199
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,279
But I've never heard from anyone that is able to

1200
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:19,640
pull girls, just singular or in general, depending on my audience,

1201
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,920
salt the taste. But that's ever said anything like that.

1202
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,039
I can't think of any single person that is either

1203
01:09:28,119 --> 01:09:31,119
married or could get married if he so chose to,

1204
01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:35,640
that has ever said any dumb shit about like, oh,

1205
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,880
we need to we need to hate women. We need

1206
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,359
to not allow them to talk or voice their opinion

1207
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,760
or whatever. Like I'm sorry, are you a robot? Like

1208
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,920
if I if somebody says the wrong thing, will you

1209
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,479
then immediately go and do the wrong thing because you

1210
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,239
listen to this wrong person.

1211
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 3: Like it's like it's it's punk ship, Like it's the

1212
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:59,039
same and the same thing, so it's unhelpable. It's the

1213
01:09:59,039 --> 01:10:01,640
same with Lay's clutter it who like I want to

1214
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,840
like pretend they're pimps and like always tell her they're good,

1215
01:10:04,039 --> 01:10:06,199
like how to like smack a woman. It's like, bro,

1216
01:10:06,319 --> 01:10:07,880
that's that's like that's like bitch stuff.

1217
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:08,079
Speaker 2: Man.

1218
01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:10,239
Speaker 3: You're like you can't control your ship and you it's

1219
01:10:10,279 --> 01:10:13,079
like you can't control your fucking emotions and like you

1220
01:10:13,119 --> 01:10:15,319
can't control your woman, so like you're you're trying to

1221
01:10:15,359 --> 01:10:18,359
act hard because you like you see, it's like the

1222
01:10:18,359 --> 01:10:21,640
same ship. It's like yeah, it's stuff.

1223
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1224
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 4: The fact that you're worried about women and whether they

1225
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,399
can talk or like what did you say or whatever?

1226
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,079
Like that is weakness.

1227
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,119
Speaker 3: It bitchitess Well, like I said, it's the same, it's

1228
01:10:32,119 --> 01:10:34,760
the same energy. It's the same like bit shitess energy

1229
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,159
as these guys like worried about what other guys are

1230
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:40,399
doing or thinking, and one like gossip about like he's

1231
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,640
that guy's the wrong opinion. I mean, honestly, even like

1232
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,520
let's say.

1233
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 4: Like white girls better, we need to exterminate them.

1234
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 5: Also, they don't get them because you know, women an

1235
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,399
absolutely no agency and there's going to just immediately any

1236
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,760
but any guy that's worried about that can't sling dick

1237
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:58,960
and his ugly.

1238
01:10:59,159 --> 01:11:01,359
Speaker 4: Like it's just a fact, Like if you're worried about it,

1239
01:11:01,399 --> 01:11:02,520
sound like.

1240
01:11:03,079 --> 01:11:07,279
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's honestly, I think it's guys. I

1241
01:11:07,279 --> 01:11:10,439
think it's guys like who sit on watching pornography and

1242
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,600
they decide that's like reality. They're like porgraphy is like

1243
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,920
a sick oh syop. I mean in all kinds of ways,

1244
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,000
but at least I I literally haven't seen like a

1245
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:23,000
porno in like thirty years. Okay, when I was like

1246
01:11:23,079 --> 01:11:27,000
a teenager, pornos were all like girls making out with

1247
01:11:27,079 --> 01:11:30,000
girls like guys and multiple girls and like black guys

1248
01:11:30,079 --> 01:11:34,159
like getting with like white women. That's like what pornography was.

1249
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,159
I assume it's pretty much the same today. And I mean,

1250
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,600
you get you're something like a weird fuck who like

1251
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,119
can't relate to people anyway, and you're like watching pornography

1252
01:11:44,199 --> 01:11:48,079
all the time. I mean that that like I think

1253
01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:50,800
these I think these these people decide they're like that's

1254
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,199
like what reality is. Like, Oh, like women will go

1255
01:11:53,319 --> 01:11:56,119
with black guys because that's it's in pro, it's in

1256
01:11:56,199 --> 01:11:58,800
pri it's in prawn. So that's the way it is. Well,

1257
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:03,079
I got that totally. I usually there's some truth to that.

1258
01:12:03,159 --> 01:12:07,079
Speaker 4: So as a man that is able to you know,

1259
01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:10,680
have sex with women when he so chooses, I obviously

1260
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,800
like them younger. And you know, I'm really glad that

1261
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,359
so many of you zoomer kids are such faggots because

1262
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:22,600
it kind of like, you know, literally it's shooting fish

1263
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,800
in the barrel, like you know, the Zoomer women are

1264
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,680
going somewhere like is not not to men in their

1265
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,840
own age group. And I ask them lots of things

1266
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,359
a that they're a women need strong men right now,

1267
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,239
most every zoomer girl, whether they're you know, I'm in

1268
01:12:41,279 --> 01:12:45,000
my late thirties, you know, a date between you know,

1269
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:48,680
twenty one and twenty four, twenty five at a little

1270
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,640
bit older, depending on how she looks. But the one

1271
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,920
thing I have noticed. I see it almost every time.

1272
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:59,720
It makes me very, very sad. It literally literally breaks

1273
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,319
my fock and heart. Is that most of these girls

1274
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,800
have like you know, you could see at one point

1275
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,239
in time like and this is everyone I'm talking like,

1276
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,680
I would say, out of a sample of ten, eight

1277
01:13:12,079 --> 01:13:16,560
or nine, you know, they're they were put on some

1278
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,399
type of psychotropic medication. They have constant anxiety all the

1279
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,800
time because their fucking world is a hell of a

1280
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,840
lot scarier than any of their parents or any of

1281
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,399
their you know, immediate family members ever had to you know,

1282
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,399
deal with a lot of these girls have cut themselves

1283
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,279
at one point in time in the past. You see

1284
01:13:33,279 --> 01:13:35,600
it when you get them naked, because it'll always be

1285
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,640
like up on their inner thigh or something like that.

1286
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,319
And it makes me really sad. And the reason it

1287
01:13:40,319 --> 01:13:42,720
makes me sad is also the same reason that girl

1288
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:47,960
was in my bed, because there is the men of

1289
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:49,760
her age are.

1290
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:56,159
Speaker 6: A level of but are they're feminine to a point

1291
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:02,079
where I would say forty percent of the girls of

1292
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,920
you know, tried to go on dates with guys their

1293
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,600
age and have basically.

1294
01:14:08,399 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 4: Had a guy bring up you know, hey, are you

1295
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,640
cool if you like throw a strap on on and

1296
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,560
like fuck me in the ass. Like and when I

1297
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,399
first heard that, I almost fell out of my fucking

1298
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,199
chair and I was like, wait, are you serious, And

1299
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:24,199
they're like yeah, Like I would say, it's like half

1300
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:30,119
of the you know, guys, my age seemed to be

1301
01:14:30,199 --> 01:14:31,840
like going somewhere into a little yeah.

1302
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,279
Speaker 3: No, no, nobody even think about that if they hadn't

1303
01:14:37,319 --> 01:14:41,720
seen it in o'no, Like I don't. I'm like it

1304
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,239
chased like sold to the apocalypse, you know, like I

1305
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,039
I don't. I don't do fun stuff with girls, but

1306
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,000
like I I like hanging around with women because like

1307
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,439
they smell good and like they're a good company, you know,

1308
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,319
like they're funded a great company. But it's like, yeah,

1309
01:14:55,359 --> 01:14:59,479
you're like a you're like a fucking four star Weirdo pictures.

1310
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,520
But it's like, but no, man, like I said, you.

1311
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 4: Have no concept of what's great. Man. Everything that man,

1312
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,399
every time that man tries to make me beautiful, he

1313
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,840
basically whatever he's using as his medium, whether it's paint

1314
01:15:13,239 --> 01:15:18,199
and canvas, whether it's sculpture, marble, it doesn't matter. He

1315
01:15:18,279 --> 01:15:22,479
tries to make a woman. The female form, the female

1316
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:26,680
body is the only way that man can conceptualize beauty. Right,

1317
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,600
So if you hate women, you hate beauty, you hate

1318
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,000
your people, Like I'm sorry.

1319
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,159
Speaker 1: Right if you hate women and you're not gay, because

1320
01:15:37,159 --> 01:15:41,000
I've said on this show that the only misogyny is

1321
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,560
basically a meaningless term, except for I think that the

1322
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,560
only true misogynists are homosexuals because they truly hate women.

1323
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, it's also I gotta I gotta raize

1324
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,279
up at a minute. Sorry to be a brought but

1325
01:15:55,319 --> 01:15:59,000
I you know, like I told people that I was

1326
01:15:59,079 --> 01:16:01,640
actually around like a lot of homos for a minute

1327
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,159
because like I worked at the Edgewater and plus I

1328
01:16:05,159 --> 01:16:08,479
feel like if you're like involved in like body building

1329
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,640
at a competitive level, you're just gonna be around like

1330
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,560
a lot of gays. Like most people, dudes like think

1331
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,880
of themselves as like tough guys and like they they

1332
01:16:16,079 --> 01:16:18,920
do hate women. They think like pussy is like dirty.

1333
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,359
They they think like women are shitty. It's they're not

1334
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,680
these like they're not these guys, like like they're not

1335
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,319
these guys who act like you're wine ash but they

1336
01:16:25,319 --> 01:16:27,119
ha going to be men. They're like they're like prison

1337
01:16:27,159 --> 01:16:30,680
type dudes. You know, Like I mean that that's that's

1338
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,199
that's what it means is gonna be cruising. It's not

1339
01:16:33,239 --> 01:16:35,279
just because it's kind of like an American Gello movie,

1340
01:16:35,319 --> 01:16:36,920
Like it's kind of a rough movie, Like it's just

1341
01:16:37,079 --> 01:16:41,840
kind of queasy, But that is what like gay life is.

1342
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,079
Like it's not like Will and Grace. It's like cruising.

1343
01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:46,600
It's like, dude, why like think they're tough guys who

1344
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,680
are just kind of like weird, gross caricature of like

1345
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,920
some kind of jailbird type dude who uh like look

1346
01:16:54,960 --> 01:17:00,520
at like women like they're fucking shit. You know, Like

1347
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,279
like I had some of these guys that literally say

1348
01:17:02,319 --> 01:17:05,880
to me, you know, I didn't encourage him obviously, but

1349
01:17:06,399 --> 01:17:07,920
a lot of people kind of like talk to me,

1350
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,479
I have something exactly say to me like man, like

1351
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,159
like the idea of like pussy is so fucking disgusting

1352
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,960
and like mean it, you know, like that like that's

1353
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,159
the way they think they're not They're not like they're

1354
01:17:20,199 --> 01:17:23,119
not these I mean, yeah, I'm sure there's there's the

1355
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,600
other type too, but there's like way more of a

1356
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,880
bit fucking type. Man. Why do you why do you

1357
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,399
think so many I think somebody like why there's so

1358
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,039
much like gay should in prison. You don't like automatically

1359
01:17:34,119 --> 01:17:37,720
become gay in prison like display with these fucking like

1360
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,560
normy sociology types say it's because like a lot of fags,

1361
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,239
I don't. I mean, that's a lot. There's a lot

1362
01:17:45,239 --> 01:17:48,840
of like hood fags end up in prison like Alibi.

1363
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,840
It's like, no, man, you know what, you gotta bust

1364
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:55,079
a nook. It's like, no, you're a faggots before you

1365
01:17:55,119 --> 01:17:59,720
went to the joint, you know, Like I mean, I

1366
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,479
didn't mean like this is like a ghost top. I

1367
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,760
don't mean like dwell on it. I just realized, how

1368
01:18:05,119 --> 01:18:07,039
like are they think that.

1369
01:18:07,279 --> 01:18:09,359
Speaker 1: If you listen, man, if you've hung out on the

1370
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,800
online right for a certain amount of time and you

1371
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,279
haven't come to the conclusion that some people are just

1372
01:18:14,319 --> 01:18:19,119
here fetishizing the people who like post you, you are

1373
01:18:19,159 --> 01:18:21,880
fucking clueless. You're totally fucking cluss if you haven't figured

1374
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,079
that out yet. I don't mean you guys.

1375
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 4: Fi them at exactly talking about the third exactly right?

1376
01:18:28,119 --> 01:18:34,159
Who who fetishizes Third Reich Ship more than some closet

1377
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,600
like a Jewish dude or you know, stam that doesn't

1378
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,880
want to like confront like any type of actual like

1379
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,800
this has to be said. I'm never gonna I'm never

1380
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,600
going to confront power. I'm never going to go after

1381
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:48,920
enemies of my people.

1382
01:18:49,239 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 5: What I'm gonna do is I'm going to go after

1383
01:18:52,239 --> 01:18:54,880
black and brown people because they're weak. I'm going to

1384
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,439
go after women because they're weak.

1385
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 4: And none of these people control the levels of power

1386
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,800
or actually trying to hurt me or my people. Right,

1387
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,079
But I'm going to post so much Third Reich shit

1388
01:19:05,159 --> 01:19:07,840
to try and make up for it because I need

1389
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,920
to fetishize it. And don't you dare try and actually

1390
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,720
confront any type of sign is power and make my

1391
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,279
fetish real, all right, because once you make it real,

1392
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,680
I can't enjoy it in my head anymore. And now

1393
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:20,439
you've ruined it.

1394
01:19:21,279 --> 01:19:23,279
Speaker 3: Well, it's also a lot of these guys, I mean,

1395
01:19:23,319 --> 01:19:26,520
I'm I'm like at day one, like Third Reich freak

1396
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,479
because like since I was a little kid, like this,

1397
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,520
like what I was into, Like I was always into

1398
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,640
like rock and roll and like Third Rich stuff and things.

1399
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,399
But like most of these, like I realized these Internet guys,

1400
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,119
like I'm talking like even big and using that days.

1401
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,680
But it's even worse now, you know, they they I

1402
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,800
try and interact with them because I thought they were

1403
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,359
okay first they were just taking the same kind of

1404
01:19:47,399 --> 01:19:49,560
stuff I do. But then I realized, like to that

1405
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,119
in their mind, like third rich stuff is just like

1406
01:19:52,199 --> 01:19:55,199
about bad guys. So it's like it's like it's like

1407
01:19:55,199 --> 01:19:57,159
if you were like a seventh grader in the eighties,

1408
01:19:57,239 --> 01:20:02,239
like like claiming you're into Satan or something like exactly correct, Yeah,

1409
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,479
like they're not actually into it. And then when I'm like, man,

1410
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,960
when when I pointed out to him like they like

1411
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,840
don't I'm like you just like expose yourself. I'm like,

1412
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,239
you don't actually like respect this ship or know like

1413
01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:14,439
why it's cool. You're just like a bag. It was like,

1414
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,399
think he's being like like trying to piss off squares

1415
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:18,920
or something.

1416
01:20:19,239 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 4: There's another thing about like the twink type gays, because

1417
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,159
twink type gays.

1418
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,039
Speaker 5: Are basically just trying to misbehave all they are. They

1419
01:20:26,079 --> 01:20:29,159
want to be abused, I want to exactly. They want

1420
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:32,199
to be like the bad boys. They want to basically

1421
01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:35,359
be acting out. They want to like and I mean

1422
01:20:35,399 --> 01:20:37,760
we can think of guys right now, like I don't know,

1423
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,680
wearing like cat boys shit or whatever. Like you're doing

1424
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:42,800
this because.

1425
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 4: You want to be like the bad you know, naughty boy,

1426
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,079
and surprise, you're also into a bunch of gay shit. Surprise,

1427
01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:52,319
you're also like you know, fetishizing THIRDI like shit. I

1428
01:20:52,319 --> 01:20:55,800
mean it's like if I if I believed, you know,

1429
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:00,039
psychology and you know, psychotherapy was a real thing, I

1430
01:21:00,039 --> 01:21:01,359
would have a fucking field day.

1431
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,239
Speaker 3: No, I've been I've occasionally been called approach to by

1432
01:21:06,399 --> 01:21:10,600
fucking weirdos and they talked, They're like they're like, yeah,

1433
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,760
like I you know, like I I love this like

1434
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,680
image that you know you're like playing online, Like bro,

1435
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,439
this is like my wife man, Like I actually am

1436
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,640
like into this stuff. I'm not playing a character or something.

1437
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,640
And it's like eating to them because their life is

1438
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,680
like playing some character or something.

1439
01:21:27,279 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 4: It's like it's legit like an RPG to them.

1440
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why, like I I'll post pictures of

1441
01:21:32,359 --> 01:21:34,560
Cagy and myself when I'm like a little kid, because

1442
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,199
it's like, see, man, I'm actually a real person and

1443
01:21:37,279 --> 01:21:40,159
this is just like what I'm into. Like like life,

1444
01:21:40,199 --> 01:21:44,279
isn't this like bizarre like ironic, like fucking like play

1445
01:21:44,319 --> 01:21:47,000
acting where you like act like a dickhead. You know, like,

1446
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,079
I'm not like pretending I like the third rate because

1447
01:21:49,079 --> 01:21:51,720
it takes some like ironic joke that like you know,

1448
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,600
my my like my bisexual friends will think it's funny

1449
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,279
or something like I've.

1450
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 4: Had zoomer guys tell me like, oh, so is that

1451
01:21:58,079 --> 01:22:00,960
is that like your bit? Like what do you mean? Yeah? Yeah,

1452
01:22:01,239 --> 01:22:03,479
like whatever, you gotta have a bit, man, I don't

1453
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:04,960
know what the fuck you're talking about.

1454
01:22:05,159 --> 01:22:07,199
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's really really weird.

1455
01:22:07,279 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: Man.

1456
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,039
Speaker 1: You know what, the best thing uh to be the

1457
01:22:10,079 --> 01:22:13,479
one fucking brown third world guy on the panel here. Actually,

1458
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,760
I don't know what Pete. I don't know Pete's ethnic background,

1459
01:22:16,359 --> 01:22:21,399
but as an Italian like when I come around to it, yeah.

1460
01:22:21,239 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 2: He was.

1461
01:22:22,119 --> 01:22:24,039
Speaker 3: I mean that's why we're homies.

1462
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,039
Speaker 1: Having come around to all this stuff and being where

1463
01:22:27,039 --> 01:22:30,720
I'm at, and I'm like, man, I've really fucking come

1464
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,399
a long way since I was twenty years old. And

1465
01:22:32,399 --> 01:22:34,039
then I remember when I was a little kid and

1466
01:22:34,079 --> 01:22:36,920
my mom used to be like, you know, your grandfather

1467
01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:39,439
my middle name, by the way, is my grandfather's first name.

1468
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,039
She's like, you know your grandfather, I love your death,

1469
01:22:42,119 --> 01:22:44,600
but he he loved Mussolini and he didn't think the

1470
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,319
Holocaust really happened. So whenever I think I'm cool, I remember, like,

1471
01:22:48,319 --> 01:22:50,920
wait a second, I'm fucking just barely catching up to

1472
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,720
this guy who had never read a book in his

1473
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:53,560
fucking life.

1474
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 3: Like, oh, that's awesome.

1475
01:22:57,159 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 4: I like this is a goes with like the hatred

1476
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:01,520
of poor people.

1477
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a whole Yeah.

1478
01:23:06,399 --> 01:23:08,159
Speaker 4: Like that upsets me more than that.

1479
01:23:08,199 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: Was never a thing that was like I mean that

1480
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,720
was a thing, like but like in terms of what.

1481
01:23:15,159 --> 01:23:19,159
Speaker 3: It's like a weird like striver thing because like, yeah, exactly,

1482
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,399
that's why it's goofy. I mean again, I'm not trying

1483
01:23:22,399 --> 01:23:25,720
to stroke myself, but like I did grow up and

1484
01:23:26,039 --> 01:23:28,560
was commonly called like a super zip. It's like I'm

1485
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,039
running into these like goofies from some like random Walmart

1486
01:23:32,119 --> 01:23:34,239
town and they're like they're like trying to come at

1487
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:37,760
me like gangster rappers or something like I'm poor. It's

1488
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,199
like I don't know, man, Like I grew up like

1489
01:23:40,239 --> 01:23:45,319
meeting world leaders and like I went to like school

1490
01:23:45,359 --> 01:23:48,800
with like fucking like millionaires kids, Like I'm not impressed

1491
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,319
by the fact that you know you're you're like the

1492
01:23:51,399 --> 01:23:53,960
richest guy in the trailer park and Terry Hope. Man,

1493
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,960
it's okay, I'm like a big loser who's poor. Okay,

1494
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,920
it's like you're like you're like outing yourself as like

1495
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:06,399
a white and like you think that way. But yeah,

1496
01:24:06,399 --> 01:24:08,279
I got I gotta, I gotta, I gotta raise up, man,

1497
01:24:08,359 --> 01:24:11,399
like forgive me for being a lame. I'm just like

1498
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:16,399
really tired and I I gotta, I got, I got,

1499
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,760
I got it, really, I got it. Early morning tomorrow

1500
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,439
for a change, I wake up early always, but generally

1501
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,479
I'm good at avoiding giving to schedule stuff early.

1502
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: But the joining us again, Man.

1503
01:24:26,199 --> 01:24:32,199
Speaker 3: No, of course, Man, yeah, I guess well, uh you

1504
01:24:32,239 --> 01:24:33,920
wanted to. It's in my calendar, man, if you want

1505
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,159
to record some stuff like on Wednesday, is that correct?

1506
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 1: Thursday? Oh yeah, yeah, no.

1507
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 3: That's fine. Yeah all right, Felta.

1508
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1509
01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 3: Well, uh, we'll reconvene soon and I'll see you all

1510
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,640
a bit, all right, Thomas, Yeah, Man.

1511
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 1: Pete, I hope, I hope, I hope. I call you out, man,

1512
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,560
but your your last name made me think me and

1513
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,800
you might be co ethnics.

1514
01:24:59,399 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 4: Two of the great as empires in history.

1515
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: I've never hit it. I've never hidden this. I'm like

1516
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,800
eighty six percent European, and then it's like a mixture

1517
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:14,319
of there's some North African in there, there's some uh

1518
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:25,520
one Jewish. Yeah, there's also some American Indian in there,

1519
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,560
and like French and other stuff mixed in there, you know.

1520
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:34,560
But I'm like fifty fifty Polish Hungarian because my mom's

1521
01:25:35,119 --> 01:25:38,199
the most Polish Hungarian and my dad I have a

1522
01:25:38,239 --> 01:25:41,399
lot of I have like thirty six percent Iberian Peninsula.

1523
01:25:41,399 --> 01:25:44,720
And then starts breaking down, starts breaking down after that.

1524
01:25:46,079 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 4: The Italians in the Spanish like two of the most

1525
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,439
I would probably have to say, like the largest and

1526
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,520
most successful empires in history.

1527
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:59,359
Speaker 2: Well, the Spanish Empire. I mean, Spangler thought that the

1528
01:25:59,359 --> 01:26:02,760
Spanish Empire was the most the most successful in history

1529
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:07,199
is the one I believe that he Impressionism and socialism

1530
01:26:07,239 --> 01:26:10,359
he sought. He keeps referring to it, referring back to it.

1531
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,039
So what I was gonna say earlier about.

1532
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: Hey, are you guys good for like another hour?

1533
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 7: By the way, Yeah, yeah, I should be all right,

1534
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:21,680
Sorry to interrupt, you go ahead.

1535
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, what when you guys were talking about, like, you know,

1536
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,000
women and everything. I think one of the I mean,

1537
01:26:29,039 --> 01:26:30,439
this is just the theory of mine. One of the

1538
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:34,319
main problems is that life is so easy nowadays. You

1539
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,880
don't have to go kill your food. You don't have

1540
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,239
to pick it, you don't have to clean it. You

1541
01:26:39,319 --> 01:26:42,239
just go to the store and you get it. Most

1542
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:44,600
people can get a job where they don't have to

1543
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,680
work with their hands or do anything strenuous. Life's too

1544
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,079
fucking easy. And being married and having a relationship with

1545
01:26:52,119 --> 01:26:55,920
a woman is not easy. Yeah, I have to work

1546
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,760
at So it's like people are like, oh fuck this.

1547
01:26:58,199 --> 01:27:01,039
They look upon like getting married and dealing and dealing

1548
01:27:01,079 --> 01:27:03,880
with a woman as they would like working with their

1549
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:08,560
you know, working manual Labor's also why, I like, they say, like.

1550
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 4: Oh, well, it's keeping you from success and greatness. Well,

1551
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,920
where's your success and greatness? That also takes hard work.

1552
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:15,920
It seems to be the only common denominator is that

1553
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:20,439
you don't want anything that involves duty. The thing is

1554
01:27:21,039 --> 01:27:22,880
just fuck around and do whatever you want.

1555
01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: Pete, you're married in the story. I know you're not married,

1556
01:27:26,039 --> 01:27:31,159
But Pete, I've never once heard you bitch about how

1557
01:27:31,239 --> 01:27:33,800
hard it is to be married. And I've never heard

1558
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,680
any of my married friends bitch about how hard it

1559
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:37,520
is to be married, and.

1560
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,239
Speaker 2: I like, Army's met my wife.

1561
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:44,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I granted, granted, I mean I've met some other

1562
01:27:44,399 --> 01:27:47,119
people's wives too, and I understand if some of them

1563
01:27:47,159 --> 01:27:50,359
would have reason to bitch, but I I don't think

1564
01:27:50,399 --> 01:27:55,039
that Pete would have by this way. She's the nicest way.

1565
01:27:55,079 --> 01:27:57,079
Speaker 1: But the point, the point I was trying to make though,

1566
01:27:57,159 --> 01:28:00,600
is to Thomas's point, A it's just a it's a

1567
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,239
bitch move to complain like that. It's just what a woman.

1568
01:28:03,279 --> 01:28:05,199
It's what a woman or a Jew does. But also

1569
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,159
my ultimate point is that the people that we're talking

1570
01:28:09,199 --> 01:28:13,680
about who bitch about it aren't fucking married. There are

1571
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:19,800
people who aren't married, like so they're they're scared, or

1572
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,399
they're jealous because they feel like they can't get me.

1573
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 4: I think it's that. Yeah, I think so much of

1574
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,760
the right and I mean, this is the uncomfortable truth

1575
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,560
they post about today for the first time, but I've

1576
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,760
been thinking about it for a long time. I think

1577
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:36,039
so many of like the people that think that they're

1578
01:28:36,079 --> 01:28:41,199
in our thing or whatever, are as much, if not

1579
01:28:41,359 --> 01:28:43,800
more resentful than leftists.

1580
01:28:44,039 --> 01:28:47,199
Speaker 1: I yeah, I die do too.

1581
01:28:48,319 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 4: If you try and post any like. I've noticed that

1582
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,840
nobody everybody talks about like success and doing great things,

1583
01:28:55,039 --> 01:28:57,800
but I never see anybody post about theirs ever, And

1584
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:02,159
statistically that's impossible because I mean, some of these guys, however,

1585
01:29:02,359 --> 01:29:05,520
like there's a ton of us, some somebody should be

1586
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,119
like I should be able to find one thing. Every

1587
01:29:08,159 --> 01:29:11,359
single day I scroll the timeline of somebody fucking knocking

1588
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,960
out of the park something, somebody doing something great, and

1589
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,239
then I should see nothing but our guys uplifting them.

1590
01:29:16,399 --> 01:29:18,800
If you ever fucking do something great, that's any anybody

1591
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,319
that's listening or something that you're proud of, tag me

1592
01:29:21,359 --> 01:29:23,479
in it, and I will fucking retweet that ship for

1593
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:25,960
the rest of the day, because that's really how we

1594
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:26,439
should be.

1595
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,159
Speaker 2: Well, one of the reasons I don't really talk about

1596
01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:32,560
stuff that I've done in the past and successes I've

1597
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,560
had done in the past is I'm just not like

1598
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,359
one of these people who talks about themselves. Yeah, I mean,

1599
01:29:37,399 --> 01:29:41,239
I worked. I've noticed that before I before I did this,

1600
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:48,119
before I started podcasting. I've podcasted full time and worked

1601
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:52,479
full time for the first four years. For the first

1602
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,680
four years I was podcasting, and then I was able

1603
01:29:54,720 --> 01:30:01,239
to through the generosity of the listener of the listeners

1604
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,800
transfer out and be able to do this full time.

1605
01:30:05,239 --> 01:30:07,439
But you know, I mean I had. The reason it

1606
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:09,399
took me that long to quit is I mean I

1607
01:30:09,399 --> 01:30:13,079
had a great job. I had a great career. The

1608
01:30:13,119 --> 01:30:18,359
company I worked for was was a very, very old company,

1609
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,399
and I had a job for the rest of my life.

1610
01:30:20,399 --> 01:30:22,079
I had promotions if I wanted, and I used to

1611
01:30:22,119 --> 01:30:25,079
turn down promotions all the time just because I liked

1612
01:30:25,119 --> 01:30:29,000
where I was at in the company. And I sometimes

1613
01:30:29,039 --> 01:30:31,680
promotions are the worst fucking thing you can take in

1614
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,720
a company. And all I need to do is look

1615
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,600
at the person who's doing that job and go, Okay,

1616
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,680
why aren't they at that Why aren't they at that

1617
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,279
position anymore? You know? So well, why.

1618
01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 4: Aren't they happy? Why do they always look like their fucking.

1619
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:47,560
Speaker 2: So yeah. So, I mean, I I just don't talk

1620
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,119
about it. But you know, it's not like I I

1621
01:30:50,319 --> 01:30:53,760
wasn't successful before I did this. I mean, I think

1622
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,720
the reason I was able to be successful at this

1623
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:01,359
is because I was successful before. And I say, but also,

1624
01:31:02,039 --> 01:31:05,760
something I did that a lot of people just won't

1625
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:10,000
do is I asked for help. I went to people

1626
01:31:10,039 --> 01:31:13,119
who had podcasts who were huge, And I said, what

1627
01:31:13,199 --> 01:31:15,560
do I do? Give me tips, tell me how to

1628
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,279
do this, tell me, tell me what I need to do.

1629
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,239
And I listened to what they said and I did

1630
01:31:21,279 --> 01:31:24,760
exactly what they said. So and people just don't want

1631
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,119
to do that. They feel like it's some kind of

1632
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,760
weakness if they ask other people for help, you know.

1633
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,399
And there's a difference between asking people for help and

1634
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,840
then asking people, Oh, can you fund this for me?

1635
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,720
And that for me? And I want to quit my

1636
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,760
job and I need you to pay my bills for me. No,

1637
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,720
that's not what I did. I just went and I said,

1638
01:31:42,119 --> 01:31:44,520
how did you do? How did you get to the

1639
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,279
point where you didn't you could do you could do

1640
01:31:47,359 --> 01:31:50,680
this full time? And how did you get to the

1641
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,199
point where you know, you hadn't you had people who

1642
01:31:53,239 --> 01:31:56,439
were listening, You had people who you know, I today,

1643
01:31:57,319 --> 01:32:01,119
I was contacted by OGC man on the ground melon

1644
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:05,880
in North Carolina and they're, you know, at the point

1645
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:11,479
of trying to recover his bodies and they needed, yeah,

1646
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,600
they needed a boat and it was it was basically

1647
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:20,680
a raft and it was like fourteen fifteen hundred dollars

1648
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,000
or something. Like that, and he reached out. He said,

1649
01:32:23,039 --> 01:32:26,640
is there anything you can do to you know, try

1650
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,960
to get this money and everything? And I said, well,

1651
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,840
let's see what I can do. So basically what I

1652
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:33,479
did was he said, oh, it's on Amazon. I'm like,

1653
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:35,760
all right, it's on Amazon. So I bought it, and

1654
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,760
I had a ship. I'm having a ship to him.

1655
01:32:39,319 --> 01:32:41,800
And then I went and I put out the word

1656
01:32:42,199 --> 01:32:46,800
that I said on my substack email, my email list,

1657
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:50,039
and I said, there are you know, we still have

1658
01:32:50,119 --> 01:32:52,960
people on the ground, there still people working. They're at

1659
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,800
the body recovery point. Now I bought this they needed

1660
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,840
they need a boat. I bought this boat. If you

1661
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,960
would like to, you know, contribute to this by you know,

1662
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:09,720
basically reimbursing me and everything. Yep, feel free. And you

1663
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:13,880
know it's I haven't looked because I've been doing this,

1664
01:33:14,039 --> 01:33:16,720
but it looks like, you know, we've already gotten we've

1665
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,760
already gotten enough money for it and everything and anything

1666
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:23,279
else that comes in, I'm just gonna yeah, and I'm

1667
01:33:23,279 --> 01:33:26,479
gonna anything else anything else that comes in now, I'll

1668
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,319
just send to them so that they have they can

1669
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:32,119
use it for something else, because they're constantly needing money.

1670
01:33:32,119 --> 01:33:36,840
We're constantly sending them money so that they can. Yeah,

1671
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:41,000
but you know this is you know when to Thomas

1672
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:44,319
talks about this all the time. It's something that I learned,

1673
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,880
you know that I talked about with people that I've

1674
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,560
known who've been in doing the kind of thing, you know,

1675
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:54,479
podcasting and newsletters and stuff for for decades, you know,

1676
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,520
for over a decade now, and they always talked about

1677
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:01,880
it's social capital. What's the most important. And you know,

1678
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:05,279
if you don't have social capital, you don't have anything.

1679
01:34:05,319 --> 01:34:08,319
And the only way you're going to the only way

1680
01:34:08,319 --> 01:34:11,439
you're going to get social capital is you have to

1681
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,399
be an honest person, and you can't fake that. I

1682
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,039
think most people know I'm not faking when I do this,

1683
01:34:17,119 --> 01:34:20,439
when I talk about, you know, this regime needs to die.

1684
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,119
We need to be able to take care of ourselves.

1685
01:34:23,239 --> 01:34:26,039
I'm not playing a role. You know, I didn't play.

1686
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,800
I wasn't playing a role when I was a libertarian

1687
01:34:29,279 --> 01:34:33,199
and I was promoting libertarian stuff. When I realized that

1688
01:34:33,199 --> 01:34:36,439
that was wrong, and I apologized and I made the

1689
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:40,760
switch and everything I did it in a real way.

1690
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,840
There was never anything There was never anything phony about it.

1691
01:34:45,039 --> 01:34:48,680
I'm That's who I am, and that's who we all

1692
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:53,199
have to be. And the problem is is there most people,

1693
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:57,439
a lot of people nowadays, because everything is so phony,

1694
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,319
they just buy into that and they don't really lives

1695
01:35:00,319 --> 01:35:02,680
that they're buying into it, and then they come off

1696
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,680
as phony to a lot of people. And you know,

1697
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,039
I see that because of you know, the kind of

1698
01:35:08,079 --> 01:35:10,359
audience and the kind of following I have on Twitter

1699
01:35:10,399 --> 01:35:13,359
and stuff like that. I just see phoniness all day

1700
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,760
and it's and I've gotten to the point now where

1701
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,199
I can just tell who's being real and who's being phony.

1702
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:25,720
And we live in a world where there's hardly any

1703
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,960
the kind of person who will stand up for their

1704
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:35,680
own principles and everything be damned, they're so rare that

1705
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,479
people need to realize that if it's you, if that's

1706
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,399
who you are and you're staying shut and you're you know,

1707
01:35:44,119 --> 01:35:48,119
you can you can achieve great things by just being

1708
01:35:48,199 --> 01:35:52,039
yourself and speaking your mind. I mean, don't get yourself fired,

1709
01:35:52,039 --> 01:35:54,479
don't get yourself in trouble, don't get yourself you know.

1710
01:35:55,199 --> 01:36:00,680
But we live in a world that's just fake and

1711
01:36:01,119 --> 01:36:05,239
being by being real, you're like, oh, you're a rebellion.

1712
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,640
If you act real on Twitter and you have a

1713
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,800
real opinion, people are like, oh, this is you know

1714
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:16,319
you're LARPing. This is no, I'm not fucking LARPing. No. No.

1715
01:36:16,399 --> 01:36:19,159
If if I was LARPing, I wouldn't have moved to

1716
01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:21,479
where I moved and live where I live.

1717
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 4: You would have larped as something that is way more profitable,

1718
01:36:24,039 --> 01:36:26,880
like libertarianism. I don't think enough people in our thing

1719
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,159
give you credit. Like I was listening to you early

1720
01:36:30,199 --> 01:36:33,680
on and listen to you make that switch you if

1721
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:35,560
you wanted to just larp, you would have kept LARPing

1722
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,800
at what you were doing and made twice as much

1723
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,760
money like you literally took. I believe probably more than half.

1724
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,000
If I think it's half, that was probably that's probably

1725
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,560
an understatement then right, You don't, well, I could alast

1726
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,880
half your money, because you know you're pretending.

1727
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 2: I could have went to kan Inc. I could. I

1728
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:58,319
could be making millions of dollars in con inc. Yep,

1729
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:00,720
that's not who I am? Is that who all?

1730
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 4: Ever?

1731
01:37:02,359 --> 01:37:03,119
Speaker 2: Because it's from me.

1732
01:37:04,119 --> 01:37:06,239
Speaker 4: This is kind of what it was. You know, listening

1733
01:37:06,279 --> 01:37:08,960
to guys like you, and you know, people can say

1734
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,279
whatever they want about you know, Oh, art, thing doesn't matter.

1735
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,319
Oh nobody's really listening, and dah dah da da dah

1736
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:20,279
a right hearing you and a couple other guys, you know,

1737
01:37:20,399 --> 01:37:22,960
basically because really, like, for someone like me, this is

1738
01:37:24,039 --> 01:37:29,439
even saying any of this stuff is there's really no positives, right,

1739
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,560
It is all downside, right, if you're successful inside the

1740
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,680
system and the regime, you know you would all of

1741
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:40,079
your incentives are just like, hey, just shut the fuck up,

1742
01:37:40,159 --> 01:37:44,199
pretend you don't see what you see, and keep being successful, right, Like,

1743
01:37:44,279 --> 01:37:48,600
there is no upside at all. But if you guys

1744
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,640
had the courage to do it, then what the fuck

1745
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:56,479
was I doing? I Like, your options are keep on

1746
01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:04,199
living a lie or you know, basically, sorry, keep on

1747
01:38:04,359 --> 01:38:10,960
living a lie while trying to listen and consume content

1748
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,760
by people that refuse to listen to or to live

1749
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:18,680
a lie and then just you know, think that what

1750
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:22,039
that you're doing is okay, or make excuses for it

1751
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:24,600
or say like, oh, well, this is this thing, like

1752
01:38:25,319 --> 01:38:30,079
if you're not taking as much risk to yourself as

1753
01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:35,920
you can conservatively, right again to what pieces, you're not

1754
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,760
quitting your job or you're not getting fired or anything

1755
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:43,560
like that, But how can you expect anyone to go

1756
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:47,479
out on a limb for you if you don't do

1757
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:51,560
it yourself. Like, I don't get it, I really don't.

1758
01:38:53,279 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear this. I hear this all the time.

1759
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:59,600
I hear you know, people will, people will complain, and

1760
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:04,560
then they'll like, well, if we have people who are

1761
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,920
fans of ours, who are millionaires and billionaires, why aren't

1762
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:09,239
they just throwing money at us?

1763
01:39:12,039 --> 01:39:16,319
Speaker 4: Give me a reason. This is another thing is that

1764
01:39:16,319 --> 01:39:20,640
they just they have no concept of money, like, oh,

1765
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,119
I have an idea, so therefore somebody should give me

1766
01:39:23,159 --> 01:39:29,359
money to do it. Like, if you're not trying to

1767
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:33,800
do it yourself, regardless of my money, or pets money

1768
01:39:34,119 --> 01:39:37,880
or anybody else's money, that means the second that it

1769
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:42,159
gets hard and all of my money is gone, you're

1770
01:39:42,199 --> 01:39:45,600
just going to give up. Because if you really wanted

1771
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,520
to do it, you would have done it whether anybody

1772
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,159
gave you money or not. And that's the only reason

1773
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:53,159
that people would ever give you money, because they're like,

1774
01:39:53,199 --> 01:39:57,199
oh shit, this guy's going to do it whether I'm

1775
01:39:57,239 --> 01:40:00,960
involved or not. So I need to either get on

1776
01:40:01,079 --> 01:40:04,479
the train or watch it go by, Like I have

1777
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,960
to choose right, But if you're just sitting around like, oh,

1778
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:10,560
I'm not doing anything. I have this great idea for

1779
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:12,600
this amazing thing it could be. It would be so great,

1780
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,399
it would fix everything. But no one has just stumbled

1781
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:18,760
across me and written me millions of dollars in checks.

1782
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,760
So I guess we I'm never going to do it,

1783
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,520
or you know, I'll do it when magic money person

1784
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:31,159
comes around. Nobody's putting nobody's willing to put any skin

1785
01:40:31,199 --> 01:40:39,199
in the game for for again, again we're right wingers. Yeah, okay,

1786
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:44,319
we supposedly value self sacrifice, yet we see none. We're

1787
01:40:44,359 --> 01:40:47,119
supposed to value on or we see very little of it.

1788
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:52,720
All right, We're supposed to value greatness and success, but

1789
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:54,439
yet we tear everyone down.

1790
01:40:57,079 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: There there There is a lot of money floating around though,

1791
01:41:00,079 --> 01:41:04,439
and as far as I can see, it's actually a

1792
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:09,880
bad thing because the people who are the people who

1793
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:14,720
are getting money, not the people who are making money.

1794
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,000
By the way, we got to distinguish between the people

1795
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:20,439
who are doing what they're doing and they're making money

1796
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:23,800
on it versus other people who are getting paid to

1797
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,600
do it by someone else. They're two very different things.

1798
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,800
The people who are getting paid to make money to

1799
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:36,760
make contex excuse me by someone else. Well, they're kind

1800
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:41,399
of doing it to forward an agenda that the money

1801
01:41:41,399 --> 01:41:44,680
bags has, and we see the negative consequences of this

1802
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:50,000
in politics and in the discourse because well, I mean,

1803
01:41:50,039 --> 01:41:53,039
I don't really, I'm not really here to start calling

1804
01:41:53,039 --> 01:41:59,199
out institutions or people by name, but I guess if

1805
01:41:59,199 --> 01:42:02,239
we have to name one, it would be the Manhattan Institute.

1806
01:42:03,119 --> 01:42:07,680
I mean. Also, everybody's the one guy everybody loves to

1807
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:11,520
hate is James Lindsay. I mean, James Lindsay is not

1808
01:42:12,039 --> 01:42:14,640
just out here on his own saying what he thinks

1809
01:42:14,239 --> 01:42:17,840
he's he's working for. Someone is probably I don't pay

1810
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,560
attention to him enough to know who it is. But

1811
01:42:21,399 --> 01:42:24,079
that's why I don't even think he's working.

1812
01:42:24,079 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 4: The YouTube algorithm will always put either him Jordan Peterson,

1813
01:42:29,399 --> 01:42:32,039
yeah exactly, or Lex Friedman.

1814
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,199
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, Lex Friedman and Jordan Peterson or the

1815
01:42:35,239 --> 01:42:37,880
other two guys. I was thinking.

1816
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:42,159
Speaker 4: The CEO of YouTube got cornered once at like an

1817
01:42:42,199 --> 01:42:48,479
all hands meeting, so it is on video if anybody

1818
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:53,119
wants to look for it, and she gets basically cornered

1819
01:42:53,159 --> 01:42:57,239
by this like rabid, Like I'm missing trans woman or whatever.

1820
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:01,880
Basically like, how can you allow people like Ben Shapiro

1821
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:08,239
and Jordan Peterson and all of these vile, like hate

1822
01:43:08,239 --> 01:43:11,600
filled people on YouTube and then come here and tell

1823
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:14,520
us you have a commitment to safety and you have

1824
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,880
a commitment to you know, whatever the words are. And

1825
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:22,000
she goes, no, we've done our research. And the lady

1826
01:43:22,159 --> 01:43:25,600
the true looks confused and she's like, no, we've done

1827
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:29,119
extensive research. You know. Even though these are you know,

1828
01:43:29,279 --> 01:43:34,359
basically like you know, hateful bigots, they have a deradicalizing effect,

1829
01:43:36,399 --> 01:43:39,800
all right, So we actually want to promote them because

1830
01:43:40,399 --> 01:43:44,920
they are de radicalizing people that would go on to

1831
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:46,760
find much more extreme content.

1832
01:43:49,119 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's all that reminds me. I wanted to ask

1833
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:56,039
about Pete's stepped away from it. I'd like to get

1834
01:43:56,039 --> 01:43:59,600
his take on this too. But the radicalization pipeline, you're

1835
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:04,199
the left talking about the radicalization pipeline. I think that's real.

1836
01:44:04,319 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 2: Though.

1837
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 1: I think the radicalization pipeline is real and it needs

1838
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:10,920
to be taken seriously and thought about. And that's why

1839
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,760
I think there's there's two there's two things. There's people

1840
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:18,119
who are not as far right as you on the

1841
01:44:18,159 --> 01:44:20,840
spectrum and then there's other people who are running subversive

1842
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,359
campaigns and need to be able to distinguish between the

1843
01:44:23,359 --> 01:44:26,239
two of those and call out. You call out the

1844
01:44:26,239 --> 01:44:29,800
ones who are running subversive campaigns, but the ones who

1845
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:34,640
are maybe farther towards the middle on the spectrum but

1846
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:39,760
aren't necessarily subverting are they should be left alone. Pete.

1847
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:44,560
Pete stepped away for the listener. Pete, I brought up, Yeah,

1848
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,720
I'm just letting the listener know why I'm reiterating the

1849
01:44:47,279 --> 01:44:52,880
topic I brought up. I'm talking about the the radicalization pipeline.

1850
01:44:53,279 --> 01:44:57,680
It's something that the left talked about a lot when

1851
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,640
they were going after the Internet. They were trying to

1852
01:45:00,039 --> 01:45:03,039
cordon off the Internet and silence people and delete people.

1853
01:45:03,039 --> 01:45:05,479
I remember when Stephen Molineau, who I wasn't really a

1854
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,000
fan of. I've never really followed him, but he's somebody

1855
01:45:08,039 --> 01:45:12,079
who got unpersoned. He got completely deleted out of the discourse.

1856
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:17,159
And the reason why is because you know the radicalization pipeline.

1857
01:45:18,039 --> 01:45:23,079
But my opinion is basically that if someone's not as

1858
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:25,520
radical as you like, I'm talking about a pundit, If

1859
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:29,239
a pundit, a podcast host, or a Twitter personality, is

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not as radical as you are. That's no reason to

1861
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denounce them. In fact, you should support them. You should

1862
01:45:36,359 --> 01:45:40,439
let them do their thing. Whereas the subversives, and I mentioned,

1863
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you know, the only one of the only people I

1864
01:45:42,039 --> 01:45:45,279
wanted to name in that was James Lindsay. It's pretty

1865
01:45:45,279 --> 01:45:49,079
clear to everyone that he's a subversive, and he's being paid,

1866
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and he's got people behind him who are there to

1867
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try to steer people away, to take people out of

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01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,520
the radicalization pipeline. So of course he should be denounced

1869
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:03,399
and attack. But someone you know, closer to the center,

1870
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I don't even want to necessarily say, to your left,

1871
01:46:06,159 --> 01:46:11,239
but closer to the center. If you're attacking them, but

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01:46:11,359 --> 01:46:14,680
they're sincere, you should leave them alone. You should see

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them as an ally. I don't. I don't know where

1874
01:46:16,359 --> 01:46:17,039
you stand on that.

1875
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Speaker 2: Beame Well, I mean, I think the most obvious. I mean,

1876
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:23,640
there's a couple of people who can talk about I mean,

1877
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:26,199
Jared Taylor is probably one of the most effective people

1878
01:46:27,159 --> 01:46:29,680
on the planet for what he talks about, but he

1879
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,000
gets yelled at because he doesn't mention the Jews.

1880
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Speaker 1: Yep, that's a great example.

1881
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he Michael Jones yep.

1882
01:46:38,039 --> 01:46:39,079
Speaker 1: That's another great example.

1883
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:41,560
Speaker 2: He doesn't talk about race, he doesn't even like believe

1884
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:43,760
in race. But when he talks about when he talks

1885
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,439
about the Jews, he you know, he has he has

1886
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:50,880
a historical context. But in our like immediately in our group,

1887
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,680
like Aaron McIntyre yep, or another.

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01:46:53,920 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 7: Counterign or in Europe. Friend, he's the boomer whisper. Yeah,

1889
01:47:02,359 --> 01:47:05,840
I know, very powerful boomers, very powerful ones that listen

1890
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,800
to Orn McIntyre's show every day.

1891
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Speaker 2: I mean, so why would you, Oh he's not calling

1892
01:47:13,359 --> 01:47:15,720
out the Jews every every five seconds and everything. Oh,

1893
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:17,960
it's because he works for the Blaze. Oh, it's because

1894
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:25,319
he's getting paid not to. Or maybe he's does what

1895
01:47:25,399 --> 01:47:31,640
he does and by doing what he does, he's effective.

1896
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And by calling out the Jews, he wouldn't be as

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effective because he wouldn't have the platform that he has.

1898
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Speaker 4: Yeah, who is he platforming?

1899
01:47:42,359 --> 01:47:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1900
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:44,159
Speaker 4: Look at the guests he brings on.

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Speaker 2: He said, Greg hood On, Yeah, caught crap and caught

1902
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:49,199
crap over it.

1903
01:47:50,159 --> 01:47:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he's had our he's had our our dear

1904
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,159
Jay Burdon on several times.

1905
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Speaker 2: Jay Burden the Prudentialist is on all the time. I mean, yes, yes,

1906
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:06,680
Charlot Mane, I mean, come on, come on, what if

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we use.

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Speaker 4: Avatars to these people, these online these these so many

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01:48:10,119 --> 01:48:12,239
of these people, Like, why aren't you doing the thing

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01:48:12,279 --> 01:48:14,359
that I want? Yea, why aren't you doing the thing

1911
01:48:14,359 --> 01:48:14,880
that I want?

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Speaker 2: I have on that person my interest? Why aren't you

1913
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:22,479
talking about my interest? Well, somebody else is, and somebody

1914
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:26,439
else is doing it probably better than you know, than

1915
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,000
the the person you want to hear. Oh, but he

1916
01:48:29,079 --> 01:48:30,880
has such a big platform if he would just talk

1917
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:34,359
about them, how do you know, how do you know

1918
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they're going to be effective?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome to Welcome to the right, Like, it's so

1920
01:48:39,199 --> 01:48:41,600
nice to have you. You've been here for thirty minutes, Please

1921
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shut the fuck up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah or no, oh, no, I've been I've been. I've

1923
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,479
been in the right for ten years. Okay, who are you?

1924
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Come on, already knows you?

1925
01:48:52,399 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, who are you supporting?

1926
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 4: Because anybody that's been here for five minutes, that's a

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01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:56,520
terrible idea.

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Speaker 2: Whose work are you supporting? For two dollars a month?

1929
01:49:00,199 --> 01:49:04,439
Whose work? Oh? You want everything for free? Oh? Okay, okay,

1930
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:07,199
and then and then when you this free product, you're

1931
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gonna bitch about Okay, fuck you, I mean literally fuck you.

1932
01:49:14,279 --> 01:49:19,079
I mean Thomas is right, it's a vanguard. I mean

1933
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:21,520
you want to be a part of the vanguard, but

1934
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,720
you just don't have what it takes because you don't

1935
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:27,680
have the temperament for it. Every once in a while,

1936
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I will scream at my audience, especially on my life

1937
01:49:31,399 --> 01:49:33,479
it's on my live streams, I will do it. Why

1938
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:39,159
am I doing it? Unfuck yourselves. Stop, you're doing your

1939
01:49:39,359 --> 01:49:43,199
fucking up. You're you're attacking the wrong people. You're coming

1940
01:49:43,319 --> 01:49:47,520
into my fucking comments, my chat on my live stream

1941
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:52,279
wanting to talk about internet gossip. Did you hear about quins?

1942
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:55,520
Did you hear about destiny? Did you hear about I don't.

1943
01:49:55,960 --> 01:50:01,720
I don't care. Yeah, I haven't posted about that. Why

1944
01:50:02,079 --> 01:50:06,920
fucking useless useless information has nothing to do with Syria,

1945
01:50:07,159 --> 01:50:09,920
It has nothing to do with Trump's cabinet picks. It

1946
01:50:10,119 --> 01:50:14,840
is a distraction. And if you're too fucking stupid to

1947
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:20,359
figure that out, go, I mean stop, I don't want

1948
01:50:20,399 --> 01:50:23,000
to hear. I don't want to hear from you. If

1949
01:50:23,039 --> 01:50:26,279
you can't, if you can't tell a distraction, I don't

1950
01:50:26,279 --> 01:50:32,199
want to hear from you. If if you can't even

1951
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figure that out. And then you want to complain about

1952
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:41,000
what we talk about. I mean you want to help.

1953
01:50:41,119 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 4: You also don't know the difference between public and private conversations.

1954
01:50:44,239 --> 01:50:49,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you want to complain. You want to complain

1955
01:50:49,239 --> 01:50:56,000
that Thomas is uh, Thomas doesn't hate Islam. I mean,

1956
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,680
what is this two thousand and one? What are you

1957
01:51:02,239 --> 01:51:04,199
If we don't fight them over there, we're going to

1958
01:51:04,279 --> 01:51:06,039
fight them here the Fox aren't.

1959
01:51:06,119 --> 01:51:08,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to you have to. You have to

1960
01:51:08,319 --> 01:51:10,720
hate the people that Bill Crystal says you need to hate.

1961
01:51:11,199 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, when the Jews tell you who to hate, you

1962
01:51:14,039 --> 01:51:16,760
better fucking hate them. Oh No, I don't need the

1963
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:22,560
Jews to tell me that. Really, Really, who do you

1964
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:23,560
say did nine to eleven?

1965
01:51:25,159 --> 01:51:25,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It means that these people don't see that. And not

1967
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,319
to repeat myself, but they don't see that. The stuff

1968
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they're saying has been said in mainstream media outlets for

1969
01:51:38,239 --> 01:51:40,000
twenty five years, if not longer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't the same shit is the State Department.

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You are not my friend.

1972
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Speaker 1: And I didn't go online to fucking hear this ship, Like,

1973
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:53,760
what's the point of going online to participate in these discussions?

1974
01:51:54,119 --> 01:51:55,479
If you're going to get the same thing you can

1975
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,319
get if you fucking read the National Review and turn

1976
01:51:58,359 --> 01:52:00,880
on Fox News. There's no point. You might as well

1977
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:02,640
just not even bother. You might as well go online

1978
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:05,560
and talk about music and video games and movies, which

1979
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:08,119
is perfectly fine to do. But don't act like you're

1980
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fucking reincarnation of you know, uh, the third.

1981
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Speaker 2: Reich, part of Yaki or someone like that. I mean,

1982
01:52:18,039 --> 01:52:21,720
you don't have that in you. Most of these people

1983
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:23,960
just don't have that in them. I don't have I mean,

1984
01:52:24,079 --> 01:52:26,720
let's talk about Yaki for a minute. I'm not saying

1985
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:29,239
that I'm I'm not saying that I have the power

1986
01:52:29,279 --> 01:52:32,479
to do. I'm just a voice out there. I'm just

1987
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:37,119
a voice putting information out there. That's it. That's it.

1988
01:52:37,199 --> 01:52:39,560
I'm telling you about things that are happening. I'm telling

1989
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:44,000
you about things from the past. I'm trying to, Yeah,

1990
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:47,520
I try to like not tell people what to believe.

1991
01:52:49,119 --> 01:52:52,399
And it's so hard because people want to be told

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what to believe. They want to be told what to

1993
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:57,960
do and what to believe and how to live their life.

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And I wish we didn't live in a world where

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01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:08,079
people needed to hear what to believe and what's but

1996
01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:13,039
here we are and the problem is is that anything

1997
01:53:13,079 --> 01:53:16,079
I'm telling you, If you don't go and double check

1998
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it yourself, that's your own fucking fault. But no revelation that.

1999
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Oh forty years we've been talking about this and shit

2000
01:53:26,399 --> 01:53:29,319
has just gotten worse. And whenever we do have a

2001
01:53:29,319 --> 01:53:34,960
little win, whenever somebody goes, whenever somebody adopts our what

2002
01:53:35,039 --> 01:53:38,439
we want to do, oh what is it? Legalize weed,

2003
01:53:39,359 --> 01:53:44,399
legalized drugs, legalized prostitution. Everything that is like leads to

2004
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:50,000
the degeneration of society. Okay, thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: Are you talking about the delibertarians?

2006
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:57,279
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, because that's where I came from. But

2007
01:53:57,479 --> 01:54:01,319
why does why does Orrin talk about talk about conservatives?

2008
01:54:01,319 --> 01:54:04,359
That's where you came from. This is what I know.

2009
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:11,079
It's just I mean, how can you how can you

2010
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:15,760
like for four years, I mean just say, just everybody's like, oh, well,

2011
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:19,760
if twenty twenty caused you to change your values, my

2012
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:26,520
values didn't change. What was it? What how I understand

2013
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:31,720
the world and how I understand other people? That changed

2014
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:32,520
a lot.

2015
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and things things have changed too, because the world changes,

2016
01:54:38,319 --> 01:54:45,079
politics changes, The shifting tides of American political culture has

2017
01:54:45,159 --> 01:54:49,840
changed drastically over my lifetime, you know, and over time

2018
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:56,479
you can't keep necessarily the same position on certain things

2019
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,960
that you did earlier, because like the zeitgeist has shifted,

2020
01:55:00,399 --> 01:55:04,000
you know, Like for me, I've always been anti war.

2021
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I mean, Pete, I think from observing your content over

2022
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:08,279
a number of years, I know we're both like we

2023
01:55:08,319 --> 01:55:12,079
both follow like Scott Horton and like Ryan Dawson and

2024
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:17,720
Darryl Cooper and other guys too. They're like the anti

2025
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:22,319
war libertarians, right, But other things have shifted as well,

2026
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Like culturally, film and literature has just been completely captured

2027
01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:31,520
by the woke and by the left. Hopefully that's coming back.

2028
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,920
I mean people are saying the woke is dead. What

2029
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:36,199
do you guys think about that? Let me ask you

2030
01:55:36,199 --> 01:55:39,800
guys about that. Do you think it looks like perhaps

2031
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:43,359
we may have come out of that morass where like

2032
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leftist points.

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Speaker 2: A, B and C.

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Speaker 1: If you don't meet these these specific points that are

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01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:52,119
like as far left as you could possibly be, they.

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Speaker 4: You should hope that that does not happen. That was

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the greatest gift we ever got.

2038
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Speaker 1: I mean, it radicalized me for sure. Yeah, we definitely

2039
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:03,880
ratifies me just.

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Speaker 2: As the spirit of the age doesn't change overnight. I mean,

2041
01:56:08,479 --> 01:56:10,359
that's what you're sawing about. We're talking about the spirit

2042
01:56:10,359 --> 01:56:12,760
of the age changing over there has to be over

2043
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:15,319
let there. So what you're going to what you're going

2044
01:56:15,399 --> 01:56:16,920
to see, is you're going to see the woke is

2045
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:20,840
going to continue to It'll be there, we'll hear about it.

2046
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It'll take you, it'll take some scalps along the way,

2047
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:27,680
but we'll also be changing over to something else, whatever

2048
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:32,000
comes next. And I have a tendency to think that

2049
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:35,720
said this for said this for a while, the next

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01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:38,800
thing is either going to be left or right authoritarianism.

2051
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And the way it looks like it looks like it's

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probably going to be some form of right wing authoritarianism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just said that.

2054
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Speaker 2: I agree, you're not going to see that with Trump.

2055
01:56:50,079 --> 01:56:53,399
I don't think I'm a ninety nine point nine percent

2056
01:56:53,479 --> 01:56:57,239
positive because I mean, he's a Democrat from Queen's But

2057
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:01,079
we're going to shire if the spirit of the age

2058
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doesn't happen in four years, it doesn't happen. I mean,

2059
01:57:04,359 --> 01:57:07,399
how long did it take Rome to fall I mean

2060
01:57:07,439 --> 01:57:09,720
there were people who were saying that Rome had fallen

2061
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,720
two hundred years before it did. All right, Well, we

2062
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:15,840
live in an information age. Things go faster now. I

2063
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don't think it's going to take two hundred years, but

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I mean the spirit of the age. I don't know

2065
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that it'll change in my lifetime, but it's changing. You're

2066
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:26,640
seeing it go to something else, and I mean, I

2067
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:28,920
think people should be excited about it. If you feel

2068
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:32,000
like history, you should really be excited about seeing change,

2069
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even bad change. You know, things changing poorly if you

2070
01:57:36,039 --> 01:57:40,119
like history, because maybe it doesn't match up with your values.

2071
01:57:40,159 --> 01:57:44,880
But it's really when you see a societal shift and

2072
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:50,720
you see like a when you see the spirit change,

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01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:55,199
that's something that's you know, rather interesting. But yeah, I

2074
01:57:55,279 --> 01:57:59,439
mean you it's the woke's dying, just as Israel people.

2075
01:58:00,479 --> 01:58:03,680
You know, people are like, oh, Israel never die.

2076
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:03,920
Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, the whole thing about eighty years.

2078
01:58:06,079 --> 01:58:09,399
No Jewish kingdom lasts for longer than eighty years. Well

2079
01:58:09,399 --> 01:58:13,039
they got four more years. Is Israel going to disappear

2080
01:58:13,079 --> 01:58:17,399
in four years? No, probably Israel still be there. But

2081
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:20,439
I think quickly it's becoming something different.

2082
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that gots to something I wanted to bring

2083
01:58:24,319 --> 01:58:28,399
up earlier. The shadow of the Holocaust. That was the

2084
01:58:29,279 --> 01:58:32,880
capital that the Holocaust was able to afford the Zionists,

2085
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:37,720
and you know, Israel as an entity that had an

2086
01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:41,920
effect on American politics. A new generation is coming in.

2087
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,640
And one of the reasons why I'm optimistic about Trump

2088
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:50,000
despite disliking a lot of his picks in his cabinet,

2089
01:58:50,279 --> 01:58:51,920
is that people that we've been talking about, like Mike

2090
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:56,439
Huckabee and Lindsay Graham in particular, are like dinosaurs. They're

2091
01:58:56,479 --> 01:58:59,840
like holdovers from an earlier era that's dead and they're

2092
01:59:00,119 --> 01:59:03,960
just like the last vestiges. And then somebody like Marco

2093
01:59:04,119 --> 01:59:07,359
Rubio is like kind of like a persona non grata.

2094
01:59:07,399 --> 01:59:10,159
I mean I I even though he's got this position,

2095
01:59:10,239 --> 01:59:12,880
like I was, I was actually surprised that they put

2096
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,199
him in there, But I don't think he's a harbinger.

2097
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 2: They wanted to get him out of the Senate, you know.

2098
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he has much of a political

2099
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:23,319
future despite his current position.

2100
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:25,239
Speaker 2: They needed to get him out of the Senate and

2101
01:59:25,279 --> 01:59:28,760
he wasn't going. He probably wouldn't accept anything like less

2102
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:30,920
than something like Theoria State.

2103
01:59:31,039 --> 01:59:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got no you know. Now, another thing I

2104
01:59:34,239 --> 01:59:37,279
wanted to ask about before do you guys, where where

2105
01:59:37,319 --> 01:59:41,239
are these pro Israeli pro excuse me, not Israeli but

2106
01:59:41,319 --> 01:59:46,279
pro israel Zionis Christians, the evangelicals that bolstered the neo cons,

2107
01:59:46,279 --> 01:59:49,079
that the neo cons courted and actually got under their

2108
01:59:49,119 --> 01:59:52,760
sway for a long time. The reason I said, Mike

2109
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:55,920
Huckabee is a dinosaur and a holdover and a last

2110
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,119
vestige of a bygone eras because he's like one of

2111
01:59:58,239 --> 02:00:01,319
He's one of those guys. But like I mean, are

2112
02:00:01,319 --> 02:00:04,199
they still around? Are they still an influential voting block?

2113
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:08,319
And if not, where are they going to go? Are

2114
02:00:08,319 --> 02:00:10,399
they just going to kind of fade into the background.

2115
02:00:11,239 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 2: Just from somebody who lives in a small town that

2116
02:00:14,039 --> 02:00:18,000
has like twenty twenty thousand Baptist churches, well that twenty thousand,

2117
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:21,520
but every other literally ninety percent of the churches are

2118
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:24,920
Baptist churches. I think I've seen one Israel flag since

2119
02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:27,399
I've been here. One.

2120
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:31,159
Speaker 1: Yes, they just they just don't even care anymore. Is that?

2121
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:31,800
I mean?

2122
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:35,319
Speaker 2: You know at the at the Baptist church my wife,

2123
02:00:35,479 --> 02:00:38,439
my wife likes to go to, No one mentions is

2124
02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:41,800
there's one guy who if he's asked to pray aloud.

2125
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:44,199
He'll say, oh, and lets pray for Israel and everything,

2126
02:00:44,239 --> 02:00:47,319
and no one responds to it. The past, the preacher

2127
02:00:47,359 --> 02:00:50,640
is not talking about Israel. The parishes I go to,

2128
02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:53,960
no one has mentioned, you know, support for Israel.

2129
02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:59,159
Speaker 4: I'm heard a single flag and I live in fucking

2130
02:00:59,239 --> 02:00:59,920
South Florida.

2131
02:01:00,239 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's what Thomas said. It's like it's just dying.

2132
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:10,000
I mean, it's any kind of like pro Israel kind

2133
02:01:10,039 --> 02:01:14,840
of sentiment is just basically now like yeah, it's muscle memory.

2134
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:17,720
Speaker 4: But they're not going to be able to back down though,

2135
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:22,319
because it is they are. They are unified by this right.

2136
02:01:22,399 --> 02:01:25,199
So basically what we are doing in pushing back insta

2137
02:01:25,239 --> 02:01:27,199
is that it all is confirming all the things that

2138
02:01:27,239 --> 02:01:30,000
they're yet to told them about how one day the

2139
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:33,279
white Christians will come and they will throw you in

2140
02:01:33,319 --> 02:01:36,319
a camp or whatever. Right, So I have seen it

2141
02:01:36,439 --> 02:01:41,520
unified unified them. They're not so much trying to convince

2142
02:01:41,600 --> 02:01:45,880
us anymore. Yeah, but I think it's great. That means

2143
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:47,680
they're being more out in the open. Like it's great

2144
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:53,600
because I mean my mom and her hairdresser, like my

2145
02:01:53,680 --> 02:01:58,079
mom is not watch well, hasn't watched a fucking television

2146
02:01:58,159 --> 02:02:02,800
news Like, but I can't think of anyone more disconnected

2147
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:06,760
with current events than my mom, and she's telling me

2148
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:10,479
how awful it is what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, Like

2149
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:14,640
every I had two Zoomer girls trying JP me over

2150
02:02:15,399 --> 02:02:17,520
over like the last two weeks.

2151
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 1: Dude, the zoom the Zoomers know what's up. Man, It's insane.

2152
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:24,359
If you get the chance to somehow talk to them.

2153
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,840
They're not fucking buying it. They're not buying it. But

2154
02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:30,520
but but the thing is is that that I'm and.

2155
02:02:31,119 --> 02:02:36,159
Speaker 4: The kids, the Jewish kids are embarrassed by it. Yeah right,

2156
02:02:36,239 --> 02:02:39,279
the real young ones, I'd say, the kids with.

2157
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:42,039
Speaker 2: The propel with the propeller Stimians.

2158
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:46,159
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, I'd like to. I'd like to remind people,

2159
02:02:46,199 --> 02:02:48,520
by the way that like we sure talk about Jews

2160
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:53,359
a lot, but like, dude, you you talk to a

2161
02:02:53,479 --> 02:02:56,640
normal fucking Jewish person who lives their life and doesn't

2162
02:02:56,680 --> 02:02:59,640
fucking hang out online, it isn't a rabid, foaming at

2163
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:03,600
the mouth Zionis. They're just normal fucking people. They're just

2164
02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:06,520
normal fucking people, and they don't feel any sort of

2165
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:10,560
like ethnic commitment to Israel, like the Syop didn't work.

2166
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 2: You know.

2167
02:03:11,079 --> 02:03:16,159
Speaker 1: John kuttahe calls in the introduction to what is his book,

2168
02:03:16,319 --> 02:03:21,000
the Ordeal of Civility, he called Zionism another ordeal of civility,

2169
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:26,520
along with psychoanalysis and communism, and Yaki basically says too,

2170
02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:30,520
I said this on an earlier episode, that it's basically

2171
02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:34,039
a syop. It's basically a syop because they want people

2172
02:03:34,079 --> 02:03:36,720
to feel a certain type of way about Israel, but

2173
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:39,920
they don't want to these fucking people that aren't like

2174
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:44,680
refugees from the Holocaust and aren't refugees because refugees from

2175
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:47,079
the Ukraine War. Because that's where Israel gets a lot

2176
02:03:47,079 --> 02:03:49,840
of the people, especially the West Bank settlements. You know,

2177
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:54,840
when everything happened in Kosovo and Albania in the nineties,

2178
02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:58,800
when all that popped off, the Jews fled. They fled

2179
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:02,479
to Israel. When everything happened in Ukraine and Russia invaded,

2180
02:04:03,039 --> 02:04:06,720
the Jews fled. They have the Jewish population of eastern

2181
02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:10,119
Ukraine fled to Israel. So that's where they're getting their people.

2182
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:15,159
But the people who have comfortable lives in America or Europe,

2183
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:17,960
they don't want to go there. They don't want to

2184
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:19,680
live there. What are they? What am I going to

2185
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:22,720
do leave my comfortable life in middle class America to

2186
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:26,159
go sign up for the IDF and fight and fight

2187
02:04:26,159 --> 02:04:26,840
the fight.

2188
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 2: Hamas history, what's the If I want to go to Spain,

2189
02:04:30,159 --> 02:04:31,880
or if I want to go to Poland or Hungary

2190
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:36,119
or something like that, I'm going to basically look at

2191
02:04:36,159 --> 02:04:40,239
my history. What's their history when they go back there?

2192
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:44,560
What is there a temple waiting for them to really

2193
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:48,800
think about this? Think about what is the history of Israel.

2194
02:04:49,439 --> 02:04:51,239
If I if I go to Spain, I'm going to

2195
02:04:51,319 --> 02:04:53,720
go and I want to see, Yeah, I want to

2196
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:57,479
see the fortress that they was defended during the Spanish

2197
02:04:57,560 --> 02:05:00,560
Civil War. I want to go to Basque Country. I

2198
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:03,000
want to go. I want to see these, you know,

2199
02:05:03,359 --> 02:05:06,600
the churches that survived the war and you know, are

2200
02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:10,680
a thousand years old. If I go to Poland, same thing,

2201
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:13,399
if I got the same thing. I want to see

2202
02:05:13,439 --> 02:05:17,359
all these things that my relatives like. What the churches

2203
02:05:17,439 --> 02:05:20,680
they went to, you know the place. What are they

2204
02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:25,000
going back there for? What's the history they're going back

2205
02:05:25,039 --> 02:05:29,760
there for? There's nothing, Yeah, there's nothing.

2206
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:33,119
Speaker 4: You have the religious nuts, right, the Shabbat necks which

2207
02:05:33,239 --> 02:05:36,199
there's so many of the ones that are LARPing online

2208
02:05:36,239 --> 02:05:41,039
as Nazis turn out to be shaban guys. All right,

2209
02:05:41,079 --> 02:05:44,079
so like all right, you're in like a little cult,

2210
02:05:44,279 --> 02:05:46,920
all right, Like you've you've gotten zapp with a little

2211
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:50,600
bit of Kabbala. Yeah, it's exciting. It's stolen, by the way,

2212
02:05:51,119 --> 02:05:52,880
or any of you that don't know if there's the

2213
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:57,560
person you're hearing it. Uh, Kabbala was stolen from the

2214
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:02,279
Greeks and the Egyptians. It's not theirs. It's a couple

2215
02:06:02,279 --> 02:06:06,000
of books out of a much larger tone of texts. Right,

2216
02:06:06,039 --> 02:06:09,439
so even the Kabbalah isn't theirs, but the ones that

2217
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:12,800
got like a little zapp of mysticism or two. Right,

2218
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:17,039
they're in this religious cult that is quite fanatical and

2219
02:06:17,399 --> 02:06:21,560
quite insane. Right, those guys, I don't know if they're

2220
02:06:22,119 --> 02:06:25,319
going to ever give up the ghost?

2221
02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:29,159
Speaker 1: Meaning what let's clarify for the listener that Shabbad is

2222
02:06:29,359 --> 02:06:32,520
important Kabalistic.

2223
02:06:33,159 --> 02:06:36,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't call it anything.

2224
02:06:36,079 --> 02:06:37,439
Speaker 1: But what do you mean by that? I'm not going

2225
02:06:37,439 --> 02:06:38,159
to give up the ghost.

2226
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:42,760
Speaker 2: It's not even it doesn't even believe in one way,

2227
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:47,079
it's not even monotheistic. It's polytheistic too. Israel shocked about

2228
02:06:47,079 --> 02:06:50,880
that in Jewish history, Jewish religion. He exposes the whole

2229
02:06:51,199 --> 02:06:54,840
kabalistic where you know, these rabbis are up there and

2230
02:06:54,880 --> 02:07:00,560
they're praying for the the male the male deity and

2231
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:04,239
the female deity to get together, and they're there, you know,

2232
02:07:04,359 --> 02:07:05,680
to basically have sex.

2233
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:06,239
Speaker 4: This is why.

2234
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:11,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, they what they do is

2235
02:07:11,239 --> 02:07:13,520
they get they go they have the temple and then

2236
02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:16,640
these people come to temple and they're there to worship

2237
02:07:16,720 --> 02:07:19,960
like the one true, you know, the God of the Torah,

2238
02:07:20,479 --> 02:07:26,560
and the rabbi is by you know, it is using

2239
02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:30,520
their prayers, is trying to use their prayers and their

2240
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:34,880
energy and their intentions then steal it and bring it

2241
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:40,239
up to their to their polytheistic sex cult. It's real,

2242
02:07:40,359 --> 02:07:45,279
it's actually really trill, it's perverse, it's really fucked up.

2243
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:48,800
Speaker 4: Most people don't know this, but most of the Jews

2244
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:50,760
that are going to synagogue, that think that they are

2245
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:54,439
praying to the God of the Torah, that actually believe

2246
02:07:54,520 --> 02:07:56,800
in the Judaeo Christian values is like a thing not

2247
02:07:56,920 --> 02:08:00,760
ironically right. What they think that they're doing because they

2248
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:07,199
don't read Hebrew all right, is they're getting their prayers stolen.

2249
02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:11,760
Being one d percent accurate, I mean, it doesn't get

2250
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:14,199
talked a lot in our scene. Maybe that's for the best.

2251
02:08:15,239 --> 02:08:18,960
Mysticism isn't for everyone, but that's exactly what's happening. Peter's

2252
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:21,479
one hundred percent accurate, right.

2253
02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:26,359
Speaker 2: And I'm just repeating what Israel Shaha, a Israeli jew

2254
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:30,199
wrote about wrote about in his books.

2255
02:08:30,399 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 4: Well it's not They're not wrong though either. This stuff

2256
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:36,760
has power.

2257
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Old Testament power. The Old Testament says presupposes

2258
02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:48,880
multiple gods up until a certain point, and then that stops.

2259
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:52,319
They come back from they didn't go away, they come

2260
02:08:52,359 --> 02:08:55,119
back from one of the captivities, and then all of

2261
02:08:55,159 --> 02:09:00,279
a sudden, the prophets stopped talking about multiple gods and

2262
02:09:00,319 --> 02:09:05,000
start talking about just one and the only, so which

2263
02:09:05,039 --> 02:09:05,479
is true.

2264
02:09:06,479 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2265
02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:09,279
Speaker 1: Well, look, I want for the for the audience who's

2266
02:09:09,319 --> 02:09:11,359
not familiar with what we're talking about, I want to

2267
02:09:11,359 --> 02:09:13,239
say two things. The first, real quick is you got

2268
02:09:13,279 --> 02:09:14,920
to go to the show notes, like I said, because

2269
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:17,920
me and Stormy talk about this extensively in another episode

2270
02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:22,279
that I'll link. But I also want to stress that

2271
02:09:22,399 --> 02:09:27,520
this actually is very important because very powerful people on

2272
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:31,159
the world stage. Adhere to this religion, to this sect

2273
02:09:31,239 --> 02:09:32,479
of Judaism.

2274
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:45,039
Speaker 4: Have powerful forces. Are like, So, yes, they may be

2275
02:09:45,119 --> 02:09:50,279
crazy cultists, but they're not crazy.

2276
02:09:50,439 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they know what they're doing. They're not insane.

2277
02:09:53,199 --> 02:10:01,560
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly the things have power. I mean, if you're

2278
02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:07,039
a Christian, then you believe in Satan.

2279
02:10:08,119 --> 02:10:08,279
Speaker 2: Right.

2280
02:10:08,319 --> 02:10:13,199
Speaker 4: If you believe in Satan, then you believe in his minions. Right,

2281
02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:18,119
God has heaven or God has power over heaven and earth.

2282
02:10:18,199 --> 02:10:22,600
This is true, But who also has power on earth?

2283
02:10:25,439 --> 02:10:27,439
And if you don't believe in the afterlife and you're

2284
02:10:27,439 --> 02:10:32,000
not really too concerned about it exactly, then who If

2285
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:35,319
you're only concerned if you don't conceptualize the afterlife like

2286
02:10:35,359 --> 02:10:39,119
a Christian does, right where you're worried about your eternal

2287
02:10:39,159 --> 02:10:43,000
soul and where you go when you die. If you

2288
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:46,279
don't believe in any of that, then to you, right,

2289
02:10:46,359 --> 02:10:50,399
if your only concern is your mortal life and your

2290
02:10:50,439 --> 02:10:55,119
time on earth, then to you, Satan is just as

2291
02:10:55,159 --> 02:11:01,279
good as God is. Right. They both do miracles on earth.

2292
02:11:01,399 --> 02:11:03,239
They both can get me where I need to go.

2293
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:07,119
They can both you know, answer my prayers and make

2294
02:11:07,159 --> 02:11:11,319
things happen for me here and now. God can do that.

2295
02:11:12,319 --> 02:11:15,439
We can also do stuff in heaven. But if we're

2296
02:11:15,439 --> 02:11:19,159
just talking about who can do stuff here, Satan can

2297
02:11:19,199 --> 02:11:21,960
do stuff here too, And if all you care about

2298
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:24,439
is down here, then he's a hell of a lot

2299
02:11:24,479 --> 02:11:25,279
easier to please.

2300
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:30,359
Speaker 1: And that's why atheists are not a threat to these people.

2301
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:31,560
They don't care about them.

2302
02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:32,880
Speaker 4: Atheists are a threat to me.

2303
02:11:34,279 --> 02:11:37,000
Speaker 1: No, I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about your enemies.

2304
02:11:37,119 --> 02:11:41,239
Speaker 4: No, I know, yeah, them running their mouths. Right, It's

2305
02:11:41,279 --> 02:11:44,960
like I said this to you before Astro. But you

2306
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:47,319
can say whatever you want. You can do the cool

2307
02:11:47,399 --> 02:11:51,880
atheist bro thing, and I can, you know, rant and

2308
02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:55,039
rant and rant about how actually the science is more

2309
02:11:55,079 --> 02:12:00,720
on my side than it is on yours. But if

2310
02:12:00,760 --> 02:12:05,119
you're spending your time trying to convince people that none

2311
02:12:05,159 --> 02:12:10,079
of this is real, all right, Magic is not real,

2312
02:12:10,319 --> 02:12:14,000
demons are not real, these things don't exist, all right.

2313
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,720
You're literally going to a group of people that are

2314
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:23,039
being shelled daily and trying to convince them that bombs

2315
02:12:23,039 --> 02:12:30,279
don't exist. That's what you're doing. And if you think

2316
02:12:30,319 --> 02:12:37,640
that's productive, then voice your opinion that way. I say, oh,

2317
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:40,319
I think it'd be better if we just imagine the

2318
02:12:40,359 --> 02:12:42,600
bombs didn't exist, and then we wouldn't obsess about them

2319
02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:46,439
so much. Have that argument with me, Right, But this

2320
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shit's very real. Right, People that have the amount of

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02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:56,560
power that these people do don't believe in nonsense. They

2322
02:12:56,600 --> 02:13:01,399
don't waste their time with nonsense. Right When Lex Wexner

2323
02:13:01,439 --> 02:13:05,079
says that he has a demon that lives in his head, right,

2324
02:13:05,079 --> 02:13:07,479
that tells him to do things, and those things make

2325
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:10,359
him a lot of money or help him or give

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02:13:10,399 --> 02:13:14,079
him power of other people. Right, and I can go

2327
02:13:14,479 --> 02:13:18,720
and I can see you know, Leon Black of Apollo

2328
02:13:18,760 --> 02:13:22,640
Group talks about a little demon in his head and

2329
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:25,560
it gives him power and tells him what to do,

2330
02:13:26,399 --> 02:13:28,680
and those things turn out really great for him when

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02:13:28,720 --> 02:13:29,079
he does.

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02:13:30,399 --> 02:13:30,520
Speaker 2: Right.

2333
02:13:30,600 --> 02:13:33,800
Speaker 4: I can rattle off half a dozen more examples. So

2334
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:35,840
you may not believe in this shit, but they do.

2335
02:13:36,359 --> 02:13:37,960
And you may not believe in this shit, but it

2336
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:46,560
believes in you. So these people aren't foolish, they're evil.

2337
02:13:48,760 --> 02:13:53,199
This call like I see it. Right, They are spending

2338
02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:59,279
seven million dollars to bring a perfectly genetically pure red

2339
02:13:59,399 --> 02:14:07,640
calf to Israel. It's already there. Actually, Hamas attacked two

2340
02:14:07,760 --> 02:14:13,720
days after they brought the red heifer. And if you

2341
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:19,560
look at the the statement that communicate of the Elsa flood,

2342
02:14:19,880 --> 02:14:23,880
which was what the first operation on October seventh said,

2343
02:14:24,279 --> 02:14:26,920
one of the reasons that they cited for why we

2344
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:29,640
have to do this now is because they brought the

2345
02:14:29,640 --> 02:14:36,039
fucking cow here. Because the intention is that they are

2346
02:14:36,039 --> 02:14:39,439
going to sacrifice that cow. They have twenty some odd

2347
02:14:39,479 --> 02:14:42,359
guys that have been training for ten years on how

2348
02:14:42,399 --> 02:14:45,560
to move the knife in a particular way, to make sure,

2349
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:48,840
all right, they do a certain cut in the exact

2350
02:14:48,880 --> 02:14:52,159
particular way, in the exact particular place. They've already built

2351
02:14:52,199 --> 02:14:56,600
the fucking altar. They're ready to go, and what happens

2352
02:14:57,359 --> 02:15:02,920
in their minds, we don't know, right, But what they're

2353
02:15:02,920 --> 02:15:06,840
trying to do when they sacrifice that cow is bring

2354
02:15:06,880 --> 02:15:15,279
back their Mosha Yek, the Antichrist. So I may be stupid,

2355
02:15:16,159 --> 02:15:20,119
may be stupid. All those Palestinians may be stupid, all right,

2356
02:15:20,520 --> 02:15:24,439
And none of this may exist. But the people that

2357
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:27,840
seem to have control over the most powerful institutions in

2358
02:15:27,880 --> 02:15:30,720
the world seems to think that it does exist and

2359
02:15:30,760 --> 02:15:32,720
it does matter. And these people don't really just you know,

2360
02:15:33,159 --> 02:15:37,119
waste their time on bullshit. So a group of people

2361
02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:41,399
are intent on bringing about the Antichrist. You can tell

2362
02:15:41,439 --> 02:15:44,119
me how you feel about that, and you say, like, oh,

2363
02:15:44,159 --> 02:15:48,479
I don't think he's real. Okay, that's an opinion, But

2364
02:15:48,520 --> 02:15:52,079
that's what they're doing, and they're spending tens and tens

2365
02:15:52,079 --> 02:15:54,479
of millions of dollars to do it, and they're burning

2366
02:15:54,520 --> 02:15:57,840
through every last bit of political capital and social capital

2367
02:15:57,840 --> 02:15:59,479
that they have to do it, so they think it's

2368
02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:00,560
pretty fuck important.

2369
02:16:07,680 --> 02:16:12,239
Speaker 1: Well, sorry, okay, I just don't have anything to say

2370
02:16:12,239 --> 02:16:16,159
to that. I think, Uh, that's a good note to

2371
02:16:16,239 --> 02:16:18,119
end on. Unless Pete has a follow up.

2372
02:16:18,720 --> 02:16:21,439
Speaker 2: Oh I can't, I can't follow that up.

2373
02:16:21,680 --> 02:16:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great it was a great episode.

2374
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:26,880
For those of you who've listened this long check the

2375
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:29,680
show notes. I'm gonna link me and Stormy's episode on

2376
02:16:30,760 --> 02:16:35,600
Biden corruption in the Ukraine. Because evil people.

2377
02:16:36,719 --> 02:16:43,159
Speaker 4: Evil is real people, can you know, literally set out

2378
02:16:43,159 --> 02:16:43,799
to do evil?

2379
02:16:44,440 --> 02:16:44,600
Speaker 2: Right?

2380
02:16:44,639 --> 02:16:47,520
Speaker 4: Evil is not like this bad thing that like, oh

2381
02:16:47,600 --> 02:16:53,159
I did an evil thing by accident, Like evil fucking exists,

2382
02:16:53,479 --> 02:16:55,040
you thick twat?

2383
02:16:57,440 --> 02:17:01,079
Speaker 1: Well, this survival of Israel is at at stake? Are

2384
02:17:01,399 --> 02:17:07,479
they know that if they don't act continually, they won't survive.

2385
02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:15,639
Speaker 4: And you could say, oh, Israel is a secular government. Yeah, ostensibly,

2386
02:17:16,760 --> 02:17:19,559
But the only reason bib Neetnyahu isn't in a prison

2387
02:17:19,639 --> 02:17:23,840
cell is because he made a deal with those religious

2388
02:17:23,840 --> 02:17:29,200
crazies that you think are just silly crazies. Well, at

2389
02:17:29,239 --> 02:17:32,639
any moment in time, they can break the coalition and

2390
02:17:32,719 --> 02:17:35,239
bring down his government and then he goes to jail.

2391
02:17:36,280 --> 02:17:40,719
So the only people with the power, right, the only

2392
02:17:40,719 --> 02:17:44,440
people with leverage in this situation are those religious crazies.

2393
02:17:45,040 --> 02:17:48,319
So Israel will not be acting in a secular sense

2394
02:17:48,559 --> 02:17:52,840
right now because the person in charge is only in

2395
02:17:52,959 --> 02:17:58,280
charge because the religious crazies. Again, they're just crazy people,

2396
02:17:58,680 --> 02:18:01,840
as in insane and murder and evil, not in the

2397
02:18:01,879 --> 02:18:06,959
sense that they can't determine, you know, what is real

2398
02:18:07,000 --> 02:18:10,200
and what is not right. They have all the fucking

2399
02:18:10,200 --> 02:18:16,360
power in Israel, right Ben Givier's of anyways, I don't

2400
02:18:16,360 --> 02:18:18,799
want to get into it. But like all the people here,

2401
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:22,680
like Ben Shapiro, he believes what those religious nutcases I know,

2402
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:27,159
I know, right, So people in the power structure there

2403
02:18:27,639 --> 02:18:32,239
are the ones with the crazy ideas. So Israel's going

2404
02:18:32,319 --> 02:18:35,520
to be acting on these ideas. Whether you think they're

2405
02:18:35,520 --> 02:18:38,680
insane or not. These are real motivators. I think Israel.

2406
02:18:38,680 --> 02:18:41,760
Shahak also talks about that. Bee correct me if I'm wrong. Right,

2407
02:18:41,840 --> 02:18:43,920
Israel appears to be the second government, but it is

2408
02:18:43,959 --> 02:18:46,319
driven by it's driven by the religious sects.

2409
02:18:46,479 --> 02:18:49,959
Speaker 2: Right. What he says is he says that even if

2410
02:18:49,959 --> 02:18:54,799
somebody is not a yep is an a theist, doesn't

2411
02:18:54,840 --> 02:18:57,719
believe in God, doesn't believe that those things are true,

2412
02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:02,440
that what's in the Bible and especially in the Uh

2413
02:19:03,040 --> 02:19:07,840
in the Tora is true, they're still going to because

2414
02:19:08,360 --> 02:19:13,559
others look upon that as authoritative. They're going to use that.

2415
02:19:14,879 --> 02:19:18,360
They're going to use that as an excuse to destroy

2416
02:19:18,760 --> 02:19:23,159
their enemies. You kill the Philistines, YadA, YadA, straight down

2417
02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:27,239
the line, you know, and what and you know the

2418
02:19:27,239 --> 02:19:32,520
the Midwin and not even the Midwa. The idiot reaction

2419
02:19:32,719 --> 02:19:35,760
to that is, well, you just have to destroy Christianity

2420
02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:38,600
because you know, the Bible isn't the way. The only

2421
02:19:38,639 --> 02:19:40,280
way you do that is you have to get rid

2422
02:19:40,280 --> 02:19:46,319
of the Bible. You have to destroy Christianity, wealth Christianity.

2423
02:19:46,399 --> 02:19:48,520
Speaker 4: People actually say that, Yeah.

2424
02:19:48,360 --> 02:19:50,120
Speaker 2: There are people who actually say that. There are people,

2425
02:19:50,280 --> 02:19:53,079
there are people with I think a one person with

2426
02:19:53,120 --> 02:19:56,159
a huge following, who has people who you know, they'll

2427
02:19:56,200 --> 02:19:57,879
come and they'll be like, oh, did you know that

2428
02:19:57,959 --> 02:20:01,360
the Romans? Did you know that Romans were so cooked

2429
02:20:01,360 --> 02:20:03,600
by the Jews that they passed laws that you couldn't

2430
02:20:03,639 --> 02:20:07,399
like assault a Jew. I'm like, could you assault anybody?

2431
02:20:09,600 --> 02:20:15,079
I mean, if you have a civilization, do you want

2432
02:20:15,159 --> 02:20:18,959
people just randomly going up and killing people and hurting people?

2433
02:20:20,920 --> 02:20:22,559
I mean, these are laws.

2434
02:20:22,840 --> 02:20:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's be clear. The Jews do demand special

2435
02:20:26,040 --> 02:20:30,719
treatment all the time, and they did and yeah in Russia,

2436
02:20:30,799 --> 02:20:36,319
I mean you know, yeah, exactly everything in Russia and everything. Sure,

2437
02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:39,159
but that doesn't mean I mean, these people believe that

2438
02:20:39,319 --> 02:20:48,000
like the Christianity is a is a basically a conspiracy.

2439
02:20:48,360 --> 02:20:51,840
I ultimately agree with Pete though that Rome it's ridiculous

2440
02:20:51,879 --> 02:20:53,879
to say that they were cooked by the Christian the

2441
02:20:53,959 --> 02:20:55,639
Jews of the Christian.

2442
02:20:55,399 --> 02:20:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but here's what they're here's what they're saying.

2443
02:20:58,719 --> 02:21:03,360
They're basically saying that Ristianity is this conspiracy theory to

2444
02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:07,079
Jews to keep ruling forever because the Christians aren't going

2445
02:21:07,120 --> 02:21:09,440
to be able, aren't going to do anything about it. Oh,

2446
02:21:09,879 --> 02:21:13,559
they've never done anything about it and what are they

2447
02:21:13,959 --> 02:21:15,079
why are they crying?

2448
02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:18,079
Speaker 4: Where did those one hundred and seven countries come from?

2449
02:21:18,600 --> 02:21:20,840
Speaker 1: Well, we need to have a whole episode on this

2450
02:21:21,200 --> 02:21:25,079
because it's fucking idiotic to say that Christianity is a

2451
02:21:25,159 --> 02:21:27,719
Jewish psyop. And it took me a long time to

2452
02:21:28,120 --> 02:21:31,719
really acknowledge the fact that people actually a Jew. Yeah,

2453
02:21:32,159 --> 02:21:35,399
I know there are people who actually try to say

2454
02:21:35,479 --> 02:21:38,440
that this was a two thousand year long plan that

2455
02:21:38,600 --> 02:21:41,879
got set out back then, and it's just I didn't even.

2456
02:21:41,799 --> 02:21:44,600
Speaker 4: Want to know.

2457
02:21:44,719 --> 02:21:46,799
Speaker 1: It's it's bullshit. I don't agree with it.

2458
02:21:47,559 --> 02:21:51,040
Speaker 2: You're either globalist or you're not. There's no in between.

2459
02:21:51,360 --> 02:21:55,239
There's you're either global You're either for globalism or you're

2460
02:21:55,280 --> 02:21:57,319
not for globalism. If you're trying to.

2461
02:21:57,719 --> 02:22:00,239
Speaker 4: The ones that don't want Zionism, didn't say that don't

2462
02:22:00,280 --> 02:22:01,079
want to be in power?

2463
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:07,000
Speaker 1: All right, I like it. Look, we're going to reconvene

2464
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:09,239
for the listener. We're going to reconvene in two weeks

2465
02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:12,159
and we'll have a topic. But between then and now,

2466
02:22:12,200 --> 02:22:14,000
we will all be putting out a lot of content.

2467
02:22:14,639 --> 02:22:17,440
So not to be unceremonious, guys, but I still need

2468
02:22:17,479 --> 02:22:19,239
to edit this to put it out tomorrow, so I

2469
02:22:19,479 --> 02:22:21,760
have to cut it off here. I appreciate you both

2470
02:22:21,799 --> 02:22:24,719
coming in. Those of you who are still with us,

2471
02:22:25,319 --> 02:22:28,399
go to the show notes because the last hour of

2472
02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:32,959
conversation me and Stormy have talked about extensively, and I'll

2473
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:35,399
link that and Pete and Thomas get into.

2474
02:22:35,200 --> 02:22:37,479
Speaker 4: The spiritual stuff on the on the thing when you

2475
02:22:37,520 --> 02:22:40,600
and I did the no no, but I can organize

2476
02:22:40,600 --> 02:22:41,719
crime racket.

2477
02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:44,120
Speaker 1: No, that's we need to talk about spiritual stuff. On

2478
02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:46,760
a different episode, we talked about how there are very

2479
02:22:46,799 --> 02:22:50,120
powerful people in this world, some of whom are orchestrating

2480
02:22:50,799 --> 02:22:54,879
and provoked the Ukraine War, who believe this, and others

2481
02:22:55,280 --> 02:22:59,840
who were the paymasters of Jeffrey Epstein who really believe

2482
02:22:59,840 --> 02:23:01,959
all this stuff. So if you want to learn more

2483
02:23:01,959 --> 02:23:04,680
of that, go to that episode. All the stuff Thomas

2484
02:23:04,719 --> 02:23:08,040
and us we're talking about Syria. Uh, Pete and him

2485
02:23:08,079 --> 02:23:12,319
have a three part episode which is indispensable learning by listening.

2486
02:23:12,440 --> 02:23:15,280
Speaker 5: Excuse me, it's literally it's probably the most excellent commentary

2487
02:23:15,319 --> 02:23:16,159
I've heard on my life.

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02:23:16,159 --> 02:23:17,920
Speaker 1: It's like, it's not it's audio