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Speaker 2: and my guest today is Eve Howard, host of the
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Speaker 2: mark your calendars. So, Eve, how's it going.
Speaker 3: It's going good. Yeah, everything it just seemed like it's
Speaker 3: just kind of falling in place. It was a little
Speaker 3: rough there the first you know, the first week, in
Speaker 3: the last couple of days of the year of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four, and then going into twenty twenty five, there
Speaker 3: seems to be a lot of energy that was like
Speaker 3: affecting not only me but other people around me.
Speaker 2: So yeah, when you say, I can't say something like
Speaker 2: that and just not tell me, I don't.
Speaker 3: I have no way to describe it. It was like
Speaker 3: it would be like I right, say, some days would
Speaker 3: be like I'd wake up late, I end up having
Speaker 3: to take a nap and then I'd go to bed
Speaker 3: or I'd be passing out at like eight o'clock. And
Speaker 3: then there were other days that I would wake up
Speaker 3: at five in the morning and I would go, go, go, go, go,
Speaker 3: till like two in the morning. And it was and
Speaker 3: you know, I I'm usually in bed by ten thirty
Speaker 3: every night. It's always a ritual with me. So to
Speaker 3: have this kind of energy, I don't know what it was.
Speaker 2: I don't know that. How is your coffee thing going?
Speaker 2: Could you jump back on the wagon.
Speaker 3: No, I don't have coffee in here. I have like
Speaker 3: a weird tea that I concocted so and I don't
Speaker 3: think it has any type of caffeine in it. And
Speaker 3: then I have water just in case. So it's been
Speaker 3: a rough one. I mean, I will admit sometimes I'm
Speaker 3: just like I get I get really upset, and then
Speaker 3: I'll have like a black tea, you know, that's caffeinated,
Speaker 3: or I'll have like a cup of coffee, or heaven forbid,
Speaker 3: you know, an energy drink which I don't get to
Speaker 3: finish and I have to pour out. Anyone thinking of
Speaker 3: that the last time we spoke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's nothing wrong with that though. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a journey. It's just getting off of the habit
Speaker 2: of doing it every day, and it takes time, and
Speaker 2: it takes energy and effort, and you know, most people
Speaker 2: are just getting a lot of energy from that, and
Speaker 2: then the body doesn't know what to do without it.
Speaker 2: So there's gonna be cravings, there's gonna be dips and
Speaker 2: energy and stuff like that. But eventually we'll get there.
Speaker 2: Everybody that I've helped with this thing, they get off
Speaker 2: of it. It just takes time. Everybody's not me that
Speaker 2: I was like in two weeks. I was done with it.
Speaker 3: The first time I did it, I went cold turkey
Speaker 3: and that was the worst three four days of my
Speaker 3: life because I had just this horrible headache, you know,
Speaker 3: because it's your body. It's like it's you know, it's
Speaker 3: used to that caffeine. It's almost like, you know, an
Speaker 3: addictive type quality. You're addicted to that caffeine and your
Speaker 3: body is reacting.
Speaker 2: But it does end, Yeah, it does end. And that
Speaker 2: kind of withdrawal is just more evidence that it's really
Speaker 2: bad for you, you know, because exactly you don't get
Speaker 2: withdrawal from eating apples, you know, so weird depends on
Speaker 2: the apple, I guess, yeah, that shitty fucking biblical apple. Anyways,
Speaker 2: So you're Native American, I am curious about the spiritual
Speaker 2: concepts that you've learned just growing up in that col True, I.
Speaker 3: Was very lucky as I kind of grew up in
Speaker 3: both worlds. Like the very beginning, I was born in
Speaker 3: a very urban city, you know, because they were pushing
Speaker 3: a lot of like a lot of the Native Americans
Speaker 3: were leaving the reservation. They were they were going to
Speaker 3: the city getting better jobs because I mean, I'll be truthful,
Speaker 3: there's really not that many jobs on the reservation. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's there's there's a reason why that is, and there's
Speaker 3: a reason, you know. I mean they sit there and
Speaker 3: they'll say it's a dry reservation, but you know, you
Speaker 3: have the members going into you know, a different town
Speaker 3: and getting alcohol and bringing it back. You know. So
Speaker 3: it's just it's such a like the land just kind
Speaker 3: of holds this negativity and it to me, it seems
Speaker 3: like it's like a hot spot for like cryptids and
Speaker 3: and things you know that just kind of a lot
Speaker 3: of people don't talk about. And I think with it too,
Speaker 3: it's like a lot of people that are Native American
Speaker 3: don't talk about it because we're told not to talk
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: But I talk about today.
Speaker 3: Yes, we're going to talk about it today because I
Speaker 3: just feel like it's time. You know. I watched my
Speaker 3: father and he was working with the eighteen fifty five treaties,
Speaker 3: and when he passed away, he took that knowledge of
Speaker 3: the treaties and how to put land in trust for
Speaker 3: the reservation for the people, and you know it basically
Speaker 3: it died with him, and so I'm kind of looking
Speaker 3: at things differently now, you know, I'm looking at you know,
Speaker 3: we should be sharing this. You know, we all came
Speaker 3: from the same place. I mean, I talked to I
Speaker 3: had a Zuni elder on my show. I'm doing. Another
Speaker 3: podcast is called Prime Indigenous One Tribe, and I wanted
Speaker 3: to do a lot of showcasing of Indigenous different tribes
Speaker 3: and also people that I've met that are very spiritual,
Speaker 3: that you know, that I go to because you know,
Speaker 3: to me, they're gurus that you know, I can I
Speaker 3: can talk to them about different things. But they're very spiritual.
Speaker 3: They're very in tune to nature. And that's like one
Speaker 3: of the things that people don't understand of what makes
Speaker 3: Native Americans different from say somebody else that is not Indigenous.
Speaker 3: You know, there's just that respect of nature and and
Speaker 3: all things. And I think once people start to realize that,
Speaker 3: you know, and people laugh at me when I say,
Speaker 3: even rocks are sentient, they hold energy. Trees are sentient.
Speaker 3: I mean, I hear a tree out here and I
Speaker 3: go out, you know, I mean, I talked to them.
Speaker 3: I have a bush right outside my window here in
Speaker 3: this studio, and it'll tap on my window, and it'll
Speaker 3: do that if somebody else's in here, it thinks it's me,
Speaker 3: it'll tap on the window because I opened the window
Speaker 3: and I talked to Because all things are sentient, all
Speaker 3: animals as well, and I think that people need to
Speaker 3: see that a little bit more.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I mean, it's interesting that you
Speaker 2: brought up the Zunies. My uncle got really involved in
Speaker 2: researching the Zunis and he actually opened a restaurant called
Speaker 2: Zuni on Broadway in New York. And this was many
Speaker 2: years ago. He's it's been sold since now for over
Speaker 2: a decade. But he just served the food and the
Speaker 2: place was decorated like the traditional stuff. It was like
Speaker 2: an incredible experience to walk in there and see what
Speaker 2: it was like. And my young mind kind of got
Speaker 2: fascinated with American culture and just do how everything was
Speaker 2: just it's to me at the time, it seemed like
Speaker 2: it was completely opposite to everything in Western culture, and
Speaker 2: it's just I don't know, I don't know how to
Speaker 2: describe it, but I still have that yearning to find
Speaker 2: out more about what it's like. Maybe I just had
Speaker 2: a past life as a Native American or something.
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, You're not the only one that has
Speaker 3: said that to me. You know, a lot of people say,
Speaker 3: you know, I just come in. You know, you show
Speaker 3: a lot of respect and reverence for you being you know, Indigenous.
Speaker 3: And what was it like growing up? Wow, it wasn't
Speaker 3: you know. We weren't doing ceremonies every day, you know,
Speaker 3: or going to powers or you know. It was a struggle.
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember I was probably like three, maybe four,
Speaker 3: definitely right around the time that I was entering preschool
Speaker 3: or you know, before kindergarten, and the house we lived
Speaker 3: in was just a two door shack. Basically it had
Speaker 3: no running water, so we had to do haul water
Speaker 3: for my uncle's house, which was probably about a mile
Speaker 3: down the road. And we had an outhouse like out
Speaker 3: back behind in our backyard that was probably about I
Speaker 3: don't know, probably a couple of yards three three yards
Speaker 3: from the house. And if it was wintertime, you know,
Speaker 3: it was cold, and being only three or four, you know,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to go outside. So we had like
Speaker 3: a little bucket, you know, and then my mom would
Speaker 3: like go and throw it away, you know, in the
Speaker 3: mornings and stuff. So I grew up really, you know,
Speaker 3: not really well off. My parents weren't really well off. Sometimes,
Speaker 3: you know, my mom would have to go out go
Speaker 3: without eating so that my sister and I could eat,
Speaker 3: you know, just things like that, you know. I mean
Speaker 3: they put Christmas, a lot of stuff into Christmas, and
Speaker 3: you know they wouldn't my parents wouldn't give them give
Speaker 3: themselves anything. You know, it was just for the kids.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it wasn't all moonlight and roses growing up
Speaker 3: on the reservation. It's a very poor community most of
Speaker 3: the time. I'm from the Wide earth Band of Ojibweys,
Speaker 3: which is located in Minnesota, and we have the largest
Speaker 3: reservation in that state. But we are also the poorest
Speaker 3: as well. So I mean it's it's it's not fabulous
Speaker 3: to you know. I mean it's cool. I mean I
Speaker 3: grew up seeing a lot of things to go very
Speaker 3: picking in my uncle's yard, backyard, you know, all the
Speaker 3: way back, you know, where we couldn't see the house.
Speaker 3: And you know, my cousin, you know, my uncle's was
Speaker 3: his wife's kid would kill a deer and I remember
Speaker 3: we drive into the yard and we would see the
Speaker 3: deer hanging up, you know what I mean, it was
Speaker 3: gutted and it was just a you know, an empty
Speaker 3: carcass hanging out to dry so that they could remove
Speaker 3: you know, the hide, which we use like a lot
Speaker 3: of the buckskin for you know, garments for ceremonial, for
Speaker 3: power hours and stuff. The males have like a you know,
Speaker 3: a loin cloth a little bit bigger. You know, they
Speaker 3: wear shorts under it. So it's not like you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's indecent rything like that. But also you know,
Speaker 3: the women, depending on what they they dance, Like if
Speaker 3: you have someone who's a jingle dress, most of it
Speaker 3: is made up of cloth and then like metal jingles,
Speaker 3: or you can save the hoofs of a deer, a
Speaker 3: very young deer, and you can make jingles with that
Speaker 3: and with like say, the traditional garments are made out
Speaker 3: of you know, the skins of the deer, their buckskin.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I just grew up seeing all this.
Speaker 3: So I mean, it's when people are kind enough to
Speaker 3: stop and ask me about things, and it's kind of
Speaker 3: I get to see it through their eyes that you know,
Speaker 3: it is pretty cool. But you know, there are pros
Speaker 3: and you know, good things and bad things about living
Speaker 3: on the reservation. I remember I moved to New York
Speaker 3: for a couple of years after nine to eleven, and
Speaker 3: a lot of people, you know, kind of dismiss me.
Speaker 3: But I was like talking to someone. They overheard that
Speaker 3: I was Native American, that I was from a tribe,
Speaker 3: and I had people that were lined up at the
Speaker 3: deli just to talk to me and ask me questions,
Speaker 3: you know, just normal everyday questions that that you know,
Speaker 3: you know when you're two or three. But you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't know about it. So I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's we should be sharing some of
Speaker 3: that it shouldn't be, you know, such as secrets. But
Speaker 3: you know, I can see that there are some things
Speaker 3: that you know, we have other cryptids that need our
Speaker 3: protection and that live in our lands, and we certainly
Speaker 3: don't want anybody to come on our lands and try
Speaker 3: to you know, capture on alive or you know, do
Speaker 3: harass you know. I mean, it's just like you or
Speaker 3: me living somewhere. You know, you wouldn't want someone coming
Speaker 3: in your yard, you know, who are asking you, trying
Speaker 3: to take pictures and just basically causing a lot of chaos.
Speaker 3: So you know, we just asked that everybody honor when
Speaker 3: we say that, you know, some type of cryptid lives
Speaker 3: on our reservation, please don't go and try to capture
Speaker 3: it or go to even bother to look at it,
Speaker 3: because you know, it's just it's a natural habitat and
Speaker 3: we just want to keep it the way it is,
Speaker 3: and just be respectful of a lot of things that
Speaker 3: natives will be talking about or might not be talking about.
Speaker 3: And not everybody is going to be as you know,
Speaker 3: wanting to share as as you know myself or or
Speaker 3: anyone else. So I just you know, respect, That's that's
Speaker 3: the main thing that should be going around. But funny
Speaker 3: that you should mention that about Zoomy because I know,
Speaker 3: the first guest for my Prime Indigenous One Tribe podcast,
Speaker 3: he was talking about like you'll have to go and see,
Speaker 3: but he was talking about an area in the United
Speaker 3: States and that was like the birth pit, birthplace of
Speaker 3: every person, you know, every of every color and language.
Speaker 3: And basically when they came out of that whole and
Speaker 3: came out from underneath to come and live, they all
Speaker 3: spoke the same language. But you know, there are forces
Speaker 3: that work against us and have since like that very
Speaker 3: beginning that you know, they like cause other people to
Speaker 3: have different languages and different ways of doing things and know,
Speaker 3: and then they made it seem like, you know, we
Speaker 3: should be segregated from others or I feel like we're
Speaker 3: above others. You know, that's not the way it should be.
Speaker 3: We're all we all came from the same place, you know,
Speaker 3: we're doesn't matter you know who's darker skinned or who's
Speaker 3: lighter skinned. I don't really look at that. I look
Speaker 3: at energy. So if you're gonna come to me, you know,
Speaker 3: and talk to me, I'm not gonna look at any
Speaker 3: thing that you know, how you dress, what you drive,
Speaker 3: or anything, the color of your skin, color of your eyes.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look at your energy. If you got a
Speaker 3: good aura and good energy, you know, we can chat.
Speaker 3: But if I don't like you know something about you
Speaker 3: or or something, I'm just gonna excuse myself and be
Speaker 3: very polite. But I'm not I'm not going to entertain
Speaker 3: that type of energy.
Speaker 2: So what were some of the common ceremonies that you
Speaker 2: witnessed growing up?
Speaker 3: I guess one of the ones that I witnessed was
Speaker 3: a sweat lodge, and that is you know, you can
Speaker 3: male and female can do sweats. But when it comes
Speaker 3: to it, the medicine man said that our sweat lodges.
Speaker 3: I can't speak for anybody else's, but for the jibway,
Speaker 3: it's like a series of of of branches that bend
Speaker 3: over and it's kind of like a like a tent,
Speaker 3: and then you use like blankets or or possibly you know,
Speaker 3: things to keep this like the hot sna inside, and
Speaker 3: then you'll have like a fire and you'll have rocks,
Speaker 3: and you'll have water and you pour it's just like
Speaker 3: a on it and you stay in there, and you
Speaker 3: staying there for a while. So I mean a lot
Speaker 3: of people have issues of staying in there because you know,
Speaker 3: with being in a like a hat like a sauna,
Speaker 3: it gets hard to breathe. But you know, only women
Speaker 3: can put this lodge, the ceremonial lodge up. Men are
Speaker 3: not allowed to.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: There can be the medicine man there telling him how
Speaker 3: you know, if they need his help or he is,
Speaker 3: you know here, you use this instead of that. You know,
Speaker 3: he's kind of there to just you know, keep it
Speaker 3: the way it's supposed to be. But the women are
Speaker 3: the ones that are erected. And when you go into
Speaker 3: the lodge. You sit in there for a long time,
Speaker 3: and what it's made to represent because of the roundness
Speaker 3: of it, it's it's rebirth. You go inside the lodge,
Speaker 3: what is round like that a pregnant woman. You go
Speaker 3: into this what lodge and it's made to be mother
Speaker 3: like earth like, like get your money, do we quays?
Speaker 3: It's a mother. So you go in and you come out,
Speaker 3: and you were reborn. You were born, you know. So
Speaker 3: it's kind of going in and you know, either you're
Speaker 3: going to hear nothing. You might hear singing, you might
Speaker 3: hear ojibwei and you don't know who's speaking. You might
Speaker 3: see a vision, you don't know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I used to just go in there and just just
Speaker 3: close my eyes, you know, and and relaxed because it
Speaker 3: was very soothing to me to be in such a
Speaker 3: hot environment, you know, which is a lot like how
Speaker 3: we came into this world. We were in a very warm,
Speaker 3: cozy environment before we are born.
Speaker 2: Very interesting. So you mentioned visions and stuff like, what
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff do people see?
Speaker 3: I didn't really see anything when I said. That's why
Speaker 3: I said, some people do, some people don't. I wasn't
Speaker 3: really in touch with a lot of my spiritual side
Speaker 3: when I was doing this, and I don't want to
Speaker 3: talk about anybody that shared their vision with me, so
Speaker 3: I'll kind of go into a little bit of I
Speaker 3: was outside this past summer, and this is the only
Speaker 3: time I've ever had a vision. I was sitting there
Speaker 3: and it was like I could see like this. It
Speaker 3: was almost like this symbol or it looked like a
Speaker 3: series of just straight lines and it was kind of
Speaker 3: like a It wasn't really round, but it was kind
Speaker 3: of like a like a symbol of something, and it
Speaker 3: was made with crystalline lines. So it was extremely beautiful.
Speaker 3: It was very very just like it would turn. You
Speaker 3: could just see how beautiful it was. And at the
Speaker 3: very time was this strange thing that all of a
Speaker 3: sudden just came out of it. And it was like
Speaker 3: it wasn't a hawk, it wasn't an eagle, I would
Speaker 3: have to say, it was very much like a phoenix
Speaker 3: or a thunderbird. And it started to fly very slowly,
Speaker 3: almost like slow motion, and it came out of that
Speaker 3: crystalline logo and was like flying very slowly in front
Speaker 3: of me and underneath it. I couldn't take my eyes
Speaker 3: off of it, and I wanted to draw it, but
Speaker 3: I didn't have pen or paper in front of me,
Speaker 3: and I was scared to get up because I was
Speaker 3: scared i'd lose it. So I was just watching with
Speaker 3: awe and this bird started, you know, was flying, and
Speaker 3: underneath the bird was like a profile of somebody, you know,
Speaker 3: it was just the profile. And I saw the darker
Speaker 3: skin and I saw the long black hair. I couldn't
Speaker 3: tell if it was a male or a female because
Speaker 3: I didn't want to take my eyes off of this
Speaker 3: this bird. And you know, I mean, if you know,
Speaker 3: the phoenix and the thunderbird are very very close. They're
Speaker 3: like cousins. And you'll see those on a lot of totems,
Speaker 3: you know, with thunderbirds. And there are certain tribes that
Speaker 3: feel that anyone who who has a vision and the
Speaker 3: thunderbird shows itself to you, you become almost like a
Speaker 3: I don't want to say like a war chief, but
Speaker 3: like a chief of some sort, you know, a warrior.
Speaker 3: You know, it was it picked you, It chows you
Speaker 3: to show itself to you, and you know, hopefully I
Speaker 3: don't know if it yeah, I can't even remember what
Speaker 3: tribe it is. It might be Lakota, might be Chyenne.
Speaker 3: I can't remember. I'd have to do a search on it.
Speaker 3: But it's things like that, or seeing people that have
Speaker 3: passed on, you know, and you can see them either
Speaker 3: astraally or you know, standing next to you. You know,
Speaker 3: people are scared. I remember when I was little, I
Speaker 3: was scared of of seeing you know, people that had
Speaker 3: passed on, and I was so terrified that I just
Speaker 3: locked that part of me away. So now when I
Speaker 3: see something, I usually just see a physical aspect of them,
Speaker 3: a very three D aspect of them, which is the clothes.
Speaker 3: I don't see you know, arms or hands or faces.
Speaker 3: I just see clothes and looks like somebody's wearing them.
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping that you know, it'll kind of filter
Speaker 3: through and I can, you know, start to see things
Speaker 3: I mean, my you know, from I don't know. I
Speaker 3: just when I was like a little kid, I just
Speaker 3: locked it away. So I'm hoping that I can unlock
Speaker 3: that and to be able to see some of the
Speaker 3: things that I was too frightened to see.
Speaker 2: Interesting. So tell me about some of the cryptids that
Speaker 2: live on land.
Speaker 3: I remember there was I was talking about it, and
Speaker 3: I was talking about Sabe and there was this guy
Speaker 3: that was like, oh my gosh, She's like, that's real,
Speaker 3: and I was like, well, it's real to us, and
Speaker 3: he goes, I heard somebody say that before, but we
Speaker 3: were all just making fun of them. And I was like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, next time that someone says something that you
Speaker 3: don't understand, ask you know what is that. You know,
Speaker 3: you don't have to make fun of somebody because of
Speaker 3: their belief I just don't understand that, you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not a very religious person, but I don't go
Speaker 3: around making go into, you know, Christian groups and start
Speaker 3: making fun of their belief system. It just has to be,
Speaker 3: you know, lines of respect when it comes to other,
Speaker 3: you know, individuals that are different from us. But I
Speaker 3: think one of the ones that I would see was
Speaker 3: my son and I both saw this. It was one night,
Speaker 3: I think it was probably like central Minnesota. There was
Speaker 3: like we were looking up and I could see the stars.
Speaker 3: Everything looked beautiful. We were standing out on the patio
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it was like something dark
Speaker 3: kind of just blocked the view of the plant of
Speaker 3: the stars, not the planets of the stars that were above.
Speaker 3: And I was like, what is that black thing? And
Speaker 3: while I was trying to figure out where it starts
Speaker 3: and where it began, my son goes, do you see
Speaker 3: he's we were both kind of looking at it, and
Speaker 3: he grabs my arm and he just yanks me into
Speaker 3: the house and he goes, he goes, do you see that?
Speaker 3: Do you see those red eyes? And it was like
Speaker 3: I didn't see that. I was looking, you know, probably
Speaker 3: in a different area than he was. He saw something
Speaker 3: that had that was flying that had red eyes. Most
Speaker 3: people would say, you know, that would be an owl,
Speaker 3: you know, or something like that. But this thing was
Speaker 3: bigger than an owl. This was big, you know, I
Speaker 3: would say it was probably given where I where it
Speaker 3: was in comparison to where we were, it was probably
Speaker 3: about ten and a half feet, so it was relatively
Speaker 3: very big. And it was really dark because I mean
Speaker 3: we had lights around where we were living, you know,
Speaker 3: not like city lights, but you know, you know, lights
Speaker 3: coming up to the house and the neighbor's house, and
Speaker 3: we could see that something was very It was darker
Speaker 3: than than the sky, and it blocked everything out. So
Speaker 3: there was that thing. There's been talked of like a
Speaker 3: northern county in Minnesota that has a winded out I
Speaker 3: don't know. I've never seen it. I've never gone up there.
Speaker 3: I know the area, and it's pretty spooky, you know.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go up there and try and look for
Speaker 3: something like that, because you know, all of the tales
Speaker 3: that we've heard are these things are cannibals, you know,
Speaker 3: or you know, possibly hunters or predators. I would just
Speaker 3: stay out of there, you know. I wouldn't mess with
Speaker 3: that same way. You know they talk about you know,
Speaker 3: skin skin walker or Skinwalker Ranch. I don't like to
Speaker 3: give energy to anything like that, so I won't talk
Speaker 3: about it. I won't mention it again. But if you
Speaker 3: hear me say s W you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: And those are very real, but not in our reservation.
Speaker 3: That's more of it, like a Southwest kind of going
Speaker 3: up into Utah and those types of tribes and what
Speaker 3: else is there? Uh? Like my mother's she said she
Speaker 3: saw and I think this was possibly either in Minnesota
Speaker 3: or the Dakota's there. She was really young. They were
Speaker 3: at partying and something just wherever it was. It came
Speaker 3: out a little bit farther from where she was. But
Speaker 3: then she heard people screaming, and everybody, you know, nobody
Speaker 3: knows what it is, but everybody takes off running, you know,
Speaker 3: because it could be the cops, it could be a bear,
Speaker 3: It could be so many things. And she found out
Speaker 3: later that one of not her friends, but one of
Speaker 3: the females that was there at the party was attacked
Speaker 3: by something like like that looked like a rabbit basically,
Speaker 3: And so the name that they gave it was something
Speaker 3: very simple. It was just rabbit man. And we're told
Speaker 3: these stories when we're growing up, so you know, a
Speaker 3: lot of it just kind of sticks. What else was there?
Speaker 3: So I was like a devil man and around a
Speaker 3: ski area where I used to live in northern Minnesota,
Speaker 3: and a few people had seen this, including a friend
Speaker 3: of mine, a former friend of mine, and she described
Speaker 3: what was coming was behind him. It looked like she said,
Speaker 3: she said, it was like a ball of fire. What
Speaker 3: the heck? She said, it was like a ball of fire.
Speaker 3: Hold on a second, Sorry about that. I forgot to
Speaker 3: plug my phone in and started to just went to
Speaker 3: real charge. But she said it was like a ball
Speaker 3: of fire coming behind her car. And as it got closer,
Speaker 3: because then they started to pick up speed because they
Speaker 3: were kind of scared. You know, we've had fireballs on
Speaker 3: the reservation before in different colors, but this was like,
Speaker 3: it looked like actual firefire and she she wasn't driving,
Speaker 3: but they picked up speed and person in the back
Speaker 3: seat was turned around watching it, and as it got closer,
Speaker 3: it started to look like a man. So it pulled
Speaker 3: up next to their car and was running at the
Speaker 3: same speed that they were, and it was it was
Speaker 3: whatever it had had red skin and it was looking
Speaker 3: at them. So you know that wash goes along with
Speaker 3: that crypto you know called the devil Man. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think of anything. Well, of course, you know we
Speaker 3: have Savey, which is you know, Sasquatch, that's his name,
Speaker 3: his his ojibwe name, and other people call him by
Speaker 3: that too, So you know, I've never I wouldn't say
Speaker 3: never see him, but I was around him like he
Speaker 3: was around me. But he was he wasn't going to
Speaker 3: show himself. But I was sitting out and around a
Speaker 3: fire and there was this big kind of large red
Speaker 3: orb that I just happened to see as I was turning,
Speaker 3: I looked at it. I was gonna look at my
Speaker 3: friend to say do you see that. And when I
Speaker 3: went back like that, it was gone, and we just
Speaker 3: kept hearing people running around. It sounded like somebody was
Speaker 3: running around their campsite, like, and you could hear trees breaking,
Speaker 3: and it had rained a little bit, so everything was
Speaker 3: kind of wet, you know, and the branches are hard,
Speaker 3: you know, they don't make that snappy noise, but you
Speaker 3: can hear them and they're just you know, they're not
Speaker 3: as solid, they're kind of damp. But you could hear
Speaker 3: him stepping on it, running around in a circle, and
Speaker 3: everybody's like, well, you know, it was probably a bear.
Speaker 3: I said, yes, I saw a bear earlier that day.
Speaker 3: But I know what bears sound like. They sound they
Speaker 3: make little noises, and they smell really bad. They smell
Speaker 3: like garbage because you know, they like to eat, but
Speaker 3: they really stink, and you know, and so does he.
Speaker 3: But I didn't catch any smell in the air that night,
Speaker 3: but it was it was almost like he was just
Speaker 3: kind of running around. I kept seeing like these orbs
Speaker 3: behind the trees peeking at me, and I would like
Speaker 3: look really hard and it was like kind of like
Speaker 3: a bluish white orb and it would just like disappear
Speaker 3: like little kids looking around the tree and then disappearing. Jeez,
Speaker 3: we saw everything that night that was really you know,
Speaker 3: we saw a lot of UAPs out in the sky.
Speaker 3: Once you get away from like the city lights, you
Speaker 3: see so much and most of this is just paying attention,
Speaker 3: you know, being out in nature, you know, showing respect.
Speaker 3: I showed respect to him earlier that day. I called
Speaker 3: that his name a couple of times, and I told him,
Speaker 3: you know, it would be cool if you came hang out,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean that's all you know, You just
Speaker 3: they're telepathics, so you don't have to like scream, you know,
Speaker 3: they can hear you, just fine. And I seen the
Speaker 3: bear earlier, and to me, it just seemed like he
Speaker 3: was running around. He was strowing acorns and he was
Speaker 3: like running around, and I think it was to try
Speaker 3: to keep that bear from coming closer to our camp
Speaker 3: and we were the only person there at that campsite.
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's there's all kinds of stuff. I mean,
Speaker 3: I can't even tell you because different reservations, you know,
Speaker 3: have different things that make them them. There's also what
Speaker 3: we call I cannot pronounce it, but we call him
Speaker 3: like little people and there's a couple of different kinds
Speaker 3: that we refer to. I was just having this conversation
Speaker 3: with somebody and they were asking me about it, and
Speaker 3: you know, you get them in and wouldn't you can
Speaker 3: either like live outside, you know, out out in the wilderness.
Speaker 3: I don't mean outside outside, but they live outside and
Speaker 3: usually you can tell tell that they've been around because
Speaker 3: they like shiny stuff and they'll pick up stuff and
Speaker 3: they'll leaf stuff. And my son used to wake up
Speaker 3: every morning when he got to be older, like about
Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen, and his bed would have coins in it
Speaker 3: and they they will leave the coins. That's how you
Speaker 3: know that they're there. I had somebody that was in
Speaker 3: town here recently last year, I think, was having issues
Speaker 3: with things being moved, returned noises and they were scared.
Speaker 3: They thought it was a polter geist. You know, I
Speaker 3: do a lot of cleaning. I can remote clean people's
Speaker 3: you know, houses and so so, and I've helped removed
Speaker 3: a lot of demonic entities from people's places with you know,
Speaker 3: I have a friend of mine that works with me.
Speaker 3: But she was asking me, what, you know, what what
Speaker 3: can I do to get rid of this? And I would.
Speaker 3: I told her. I was like, I'm not really seeing
Speaker 3: like a haunting hunting. I say, what I see is
Speaker 3: I see like little people. And I looked at her.
Speaker 3: I was like, are you Irish? And she was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I am. I was like. She told me her last
Speaker 3: name was, you know, a very Irish name. And I
Speaker 3: told her, I was like, well, all you have to
Speaker 3: do is like put out, put out something that they've liked.
Speaker 3: You know, you put out like a little thing of honey,
Speaker 3: milk or cream, tobacco, buttons, needles, thread. You know, if
Speaker 3: you have like if you just had a baby and
Speaker 3: they grew out of therese zero to three or you know,
Speaker 3: three months to six months, you can put some of
Speaker 3: those closed out. They'll take them, you know. I mean
Speaker 3: otherwise they make their own clothes. And I know people
Speaker 3: are laughing, but it's true. I mean I've seen stuff
Speaker 3: to make anybody's hair turn gray. I mean just and
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think too much and I don't
Speaker 3: give it a whole lot of energy. But there was
Speaker 3: this woman. I was taking my boyfriend and his friend home.
Speaker 3: We were about eighteen nineteen years old, and we were
Speaker 3: driving through town and there was you could take a
Speaker 3: left and you could take the back road to his house,
Speaker 3: or you could stay on the freeway and you know,
Speaker 3: go a little bit faster. They're still deer, but there
Speaker 3: was less cops on the back road than the freeway.
Speaker 3: And so I was kind of slowing down because I
Speaker 3: was like, should I take a left? And he was like,
Speaker 3: he was like, just keep going. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I seen this woman and she was hitchhiking, and I thought,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, that's weird because it was it was
Speaker 3: it was summertime, and she would look like she was
Speaker 3: wearing she looked like she was kind of might have
Speaker 3: been a big person too, but she had like a
Speaker 3: lot of like layered of clothing. I remember a scarf
Speaker 3: she was wearing. She was wearing like a like a
Speaker 3: like a sweater and then a jacket over that. And
Speaker 3: I said, jeesu, it's really warm out for you know,
Speaker 3: being late summer at you what was it about, eleven
Speaker 3: thirty at night? And so it was I had my
Speaker 3: rights on or my lights on, and she made eye
Speaker 3: contact with me through the windshield with my headlights on.
Speaker 3: She looked at me like we locked eyes. As soon
Speaker 3: as I looked at her, and it was just like
Speaker 3: all time stopped. It was going really slow, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, she just smiles and like her jaw
Speaker 3: just drops down to here, and you see these long
Speaker 3: teeth on the top and on the bottom, and she's
Speaker 3: like smiling at me with these razor teeth. And I
Speaker 3: and I'm seeing it, but I don't think how could
Speaker 3: they see it? You know, my boyfriend's just whacking me
Speaker 3: like he wanted to say something, but he couldn't say it,
Speaker 3: so he's just hitting me in the arm and and
Speaker 3: you know, our friend was in the back seat and
Speaker 3: he said, do you see her fucking teeth? And I
Speaker 3: was like, uh, yeah, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: And like my boyfriend just reached over and he just
Speaker 3: he said, go go when he pushed on my leg
Speaker 3: and I pushed on the gas paddle and we flew
Speaker 3: right by her. But I was just like our buddy
Speaker 3: in the back seat he had he was turned around
Speaker 3: and he was waiting for her to like be there,
Speaker 3: or you know, she'd be running after a vehicle or something,
Speaker 3: you know, which wouldn't be far off from some of
Speaker 3: the stuff that we saw as kids. And I don't.
Speaker 3: I think it was. Up until I had an actual
Speaker 3: psychic medium on my show, I didn't know what this
Speaker 3: thing was, but it turns out it was a spirit.
Speaker 3: It was very evil, love melelevant. I can't talk today.
Speaker 3: Spirit and my abilities were able to allow the other
Speaker 3: two people in the car with me to see it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I was about eighteen nineteen years
Speaker 3: old when this happened, and it scared me. It's terrifying
Speaker 3: to have to see something like that and then to
Speaker 3: have the people that you're around see it as well,
Speaker 3: so you know, you're not like, Okay, I'm seeing this,
Speaker 3: I'm crazy, and then they're seeing it too, so then
Speaker 3: you know we're all crazy together and we'll probably get
Speaker 3: to be on the same floor. Yeah, the psych ward.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of anything else I saw. I've
Speaker 3: seen really big orbs. I saw. I saw a blue
Speaker 3: orb that it had to be about six feet in height.
Speaker 3: It wasn't on a reservation, it was just on a
Speaker 3: back road to Minneapolis, and we happened to see it
Speaker 3: in the woods and I've talked about it so many times,
Speaker 3: but it was so big. I mean you could see
Speaker 3: through because I could see the trees behind it, and
Speaker 3: it was like at the very edge of a pasture
Speaker 3: or something, and it was just going along the lines
Speaker 3: of the tree line and I saw it. I didn't
Speaker 3: say nothing, and my driver was like, did you see that?
Speaker 3: And I was like, see what you know, because I
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna sit there and say, oh my god, this
Speaker 3: is what it was. And she was like, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what I saw too. You know, I wanted to know
Speaker 3: what she saw and didn't match with what I saw.
Speaker 3: And I could go on. There's many many stories.
Speaker 2: I do love good story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well these ones are real, so that's you know.
Speaker 3: I mean you can hear tall tales growing up and
Speaker 3: you know, fairy tales and everything, but these are actual
Speaker 3: stories that I've experienced. I mean I haven't even gotten
Speaker 3: into any of the stories that my friends might have experienced.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of one other thing. Shoot, I
Speaker 3: had it in my head and then I just like
Speaker 3: totally forgot it. So there's just like I said, there's
Speaker 3: so many of them. It's it's it's hard to just
Speaker 3: like pick one. But I know that you can look online.
Speaker 3: If you're not using the the Google app, you can
Speaker 3: go to you know, chrome. I think I like to
Speaker 3: use free form. I think it's called free form. And
Speaker 3: then also duck dut go. And you look up like
Speaker 3: areas that have witnesses are witnessed where you know bigfoot
Speaker 3: or sasquatches, you know, most of them are going to
Speaker 3: be around protected lands, protected federal lands, or you know,
Speaker 3: with the parks, the national parks. He's no dummy. You're
Speaker 3: not going to find him living, you know, an urban anywhere.
Speaker 3: You know he's he's much. He prefers to be in nature.
Speaker 3: That's just who he is. He's you know, you're never
Speaker 3: going to have one living next to you in your apartment.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, So this is a strange question to ask,
Speaker 2: but just tell me about your experiences with the Secret
Speaker 2: Space program.
Speaker 3: Well that all started. I was visited, and possibly I
Speaker 3: can't tell you if I was or was not, but
Speaker 3: most everybody that is some sort of ability, psychic ability
Speaker 3: or esp or anything like that has told me that
Speaker 3: I was taken. I was about three years old and
Speaker 3: I was living or we were living in my mother's reservation,
Speaker 3: which is northern too, the Wider reservation, and we were
Speaker 3: at my uncle's house and his his sow had just
Speaker 3: had you know, piglets, And so my sister and I
Speaker 3: went out there and all the all our cousins were
Speaker 3: out there and we were standing on there was like
Speaker 3: a big fence and we were standing on there looking
Speaker 3: at the piglets, and everybody's talking and I'm not really
Speaker 3: talking because you know, literally like three so I you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not really engaging with anybody. I'm just kind of
Speaker 3: noododo in my own head. And it was like I'm
Speaker 3: sitting there looking at the pigs. I remember everything. I
Speaker 3: remember that he used big slats for to fence them in,
Speaker 3: and it was like I look over and it was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it was like something was just pulling
Speaker 3: me to this area. And behind my uncle's house there
Speaker 3: was almost like you know, I guess it would be
Speaker 3: like a four wheeler trail, but you know, this was
Speaker 3: in the early seventies, so we didn't have four wheelers
Speaker 3: back then. There was cars that would go back there,
Speaker 3: and you know, they parked along parallel to the beach
Speaker 3: the shoreline and go swimming, you know, have picnics and
Speaker 3: my uncle's house. If you just walk down this little
Speaker 3: trail that ran parallel to the lake, you could go
Speaker 3: up over a little embankment, and there would be you know,
Speaker 3: the soft sandy beach, and we could go swimming, and
Speaker 3: we would go swimming there all the time. And I
Speaker 3: walked back there on my own, and I can I don't.
Speaker 3: It's like I forget pieces of it. Pieces I do remember,
Speaker 3: kind of fit in an actual order. Where I look
Speaker 3: to the right towards the lake and then you know,
Speaker 3: total darkness. And then I'm standing there by that embankment
Speaker 3: and I'm looking out and I mean I can see
Speaker 3: like the hollow reeds. There's reeds along the beach and
Speaker 3: they're hollows and they sometimes break off, you know, And
Speaker 3: I'm looking at those. I see tiny tiny white shells,
Speaker 3: you know. I'm just like and part of like the
Speaker 3: the muzzles, like part of the shell is like broken,
Speaker 3: you know, broken all over, and we can I can
Speaker 3: see this, and I'm looking at such detail. And then
Speaker 3: I'm standing there in the bankman, I haven't gone to
Speaker 3: the beach yet. And I hear someone calling my name,
Speaker 3: and so I looked to my left, and I don't
Speaker 3: see anybody in that place where you can come from
Speaker 3: my uncle's yard onto the tree, y'all. But I hear
Speaker 3: my sister calling me, and I'm just like I turned
Speaker 3: back around again and and it's like I'm looking out
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I'm looking at, really, and
Speaker 3: just looking out at the beach. I didn't plan on
Speaker 3: going swimming or anything, but my all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: my sister grabs me by my arm and I go
Speaker 3: back to my uncle's house and my mom is kind
Speaker 3: of upset, and you know, she's worried that I, you know,
Speaker 3: I could have drowned or whatever. And I wasn't. I
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna swim. I was just like standing there looking
Speaker 3: at something. And so my sister tells my mom there
Speaker 3: was this man, and my Mom's like, well, what man?
Speaker 3: She was like, there was this man standing there, and
Speaker 3: she says my name. She's like standing there looking at him, smiling,
Speaker 3: and he's looking down at her and he's smiling, and
Speaker 3: she's like, and she told me. I asked her to
Speaker 3: tell me about that story. I said, I've heard it
Speaker 3: from mom. I want to hear it from you and
Speaker 3: take me back to that time, because I was only
Speaker 3: three or two, two or three somewhere around there. I
Speaker 3: was like, what had happened? I think I was about three,
Speaker 3: and she said that she comes, she could see that
Speaker 3: there was a guy standing there, so she comes running
Speaker 3: up because she's scared he's gonna take me. So she said,
Speaker 3: that's the only thing that was in my head, He's
Speaker 3: gonna take you. And she's like, and I go and
Speaker 3: I go. As I get closer to him, you know,
Speaker 3: in her head, she wants to say, get the fuck
Speaker 3: away from her, you know, but she's only sick, so
Speaker 3: of course she's not going to say it offward. But
Speaker 3: you know, you're not taking her, get away from her.
Speaker 3: But she doesn't say this because she's an adult supposedly,
Speaker 3: you know, you don't you know, back in the day,
Speaker 3: you didn't sass adults. You didn't say stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And he and he looks at her, and she's like,
Speaker 3: I hear in my head, you know whatever he said
Speaker 3: to her. And he turned around and he ran off
Speaker 3: ed and she's like telling my mother this she's saying,
Speaker 3: and he's like running, but he's like not running on
Speaker 3: the ground, he's like running on air. And she's like,
Speaker 3: that is impossible. So she actually drew out what this
Speaker 3: man looked like. And so that was like the very
Speaker 3: beginning of being taken. I wouldn't say nightly, but I
Speaker 3: would say quite a few, and there was certain I
Speaker 3: don't know. We moved into this new house and my
Speaker 3: mother said that I was having these night terrors and
Speaker 3: she's like, you'd wake up, you know. She's like, sometimes
Speaker 3: there would be you know, a couple of weeks where
Speaker 3: you weren't, you know, waking me up by screaming your
Speaker 3: head off. She's like, sometimes it was like every other night,
Speaker 3: She's like, or sometimes there would be big breaks. She's like,
Speaker 3: but you would always do this. And I would go
Speaker 3: in and I would turn, you know, turn the hallway
Speaker 3: light on, walk in your room, and you told me
Speaker 3: the same thing every single time. And I said, what
Speaker 3: did I tell you? And she goes, you don't remember,
Speaker 3: And I was like, I wouldn't be asking, you know.
Speaker 3: She's like, you were saying there was a man in
Speaker 3: your closet. And I was like, well that explains, and
Speaker 3: she goes, what do you mean? I said, I'm an adult.
Speaker 3: I cannot sleep with the closet door open at all.
Speaker 3: She's like, but yeah, She's like, every single time you
Speaker 3: were screaming you at night tears, I would go in there.
Speaker 3: You would say, there's a man in my closet. I
Speaker 3: would have to open the closet, you know, go in there,
Speaker 3: shake some clothes around, look around on the floor. Nobody
Speaker 3: was in there, you know, and this happened to go on,
Speaker 3: I would probably say, I don't know. My mom said
Speaker 3: it stopped. It was like from kindergarten, right before kindergarten
Speaker 3: or right after kindergarten, up until till the summer before
Speaker 3: second grade. And then my mother enrolls in a college
Speaker 3: in Wisconsin, and she goes, she goes to Wisconsin, and
Speaker 3: she drags me with her, and supposedly like it continues.
Speaker 3: I kind of have like my theories that there is
Speaker 3: in which these are called, you know, military abductions. So
Speaker 3: they're called my labs, and you know, we we see grades,
Speaker 3: we are taken, and I remember a lot of not
Speaker 3: so good things, which included a lot of you know, waterboarding,
Speaker 3: if you ever look up waterboarding or you know, being electrocuted.
Speaker 3: I don't like that feeling. It It makes me feel
Speaker 3: some type of way I've actually touched like the the
Speaker 3: was it the metal prong and touching something in and
Speaker 3: that feeling I get the same feeling, but it was
Speaker 3: like I had to go through like a lot of
Speaker 3: est which was like electroshock therapy. I've never had that ever.
Speaker 3: I cannot find that any medical record. But it left scars.
Speaker 3: It left scars like right here and right here, so
Speaker 3: you can see, you know, my skin is relatively clear.
Speaker 3: I haven't had any breakouts in a very long time.
Speaker 3: Usually they come with stress. And the last time I
Speaker 3: had when was when my father passed away. But you
Speaker 3: know I had I have these pitting scars like right
Speaker 3: here on my on my temples, and a lot of
Speaker 3: experiencers will tell you that, you know, they see them too.
Speaker 3: They have the scarring as well. And what it is
Speaker 3: is like they fracture you, so they want you to associate.
Speaker 3: You go into your own little world where the pain
Speaker 3: or the torture doesn't matter, and they fracture you into
Speaker 3: different alters, fragments, alter egos, soul fragments, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call them. I know, you know, truthfully, there is
Speaker 3: so much tech and this is like from like stemming
Speaker 3: from the seventies and you know, the early eighties and
Speaker 3: remembering all of this, there's tech here that you wouldn't
Speaker 3: even believe. And that was back then. So things are
Speaker 3: They definitely keep a lot from the public as far
Speaker 3: as you know, the technologies that they have, which is,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, med beds and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: You know, they know that they know that doctors and
Speaker 3: pharmaceuticals and and don't take don't you know. Don't get
Speaker 3: me wrong, you know that there are people that are
Speaker 3: medically that this you know. But I mean, really, you know,
Speaker 3: any type of you know, soul family that you may
Speaker 3: have outside in the stars are there also to help
Speaker 3: kill you. So I don't know. I don't really think
Speaker 3: that a majority of us are actual terns. And when
Speaker 3: I say Terran, that is the actual name of this
Speaker 3: where we live. It's not Earth, it's Terra. So we
Speaker 3: are Terrence. And you know the moon is not the moon,
Speaker 3: it's Luna, you know. I mean, just in the sun
Speaker 3: is not sun is soul, you know, I mean, all
Speaker 3: these names that you know we've been I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it is just programming, you know,
Speaker 3: they program us. I have such a fear of water.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love swimming, Don't get me wrong. I'll
Speaker 3: go swimming, I'll go paddle boarding, you know, I'll be
Speaker 3: in a canoe I'll go on a boat, but I
Speaker 3: don't like to immerse like my face and water because
Speaker 3: it's something that they did to me. I usually just
Speaker 3: take my makeup off with like a makeup remover in
Speaker 3: my hand, and if I have to watch, I used
Speaker 3: to have like my husband stand in the room with me.
Speaker 3: Stand here. You'd be like, why I need you to
Speaker 3: to watch my back? Well, I wash my face, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean that's how Baddie got there. Was like I
Speaker 3: remember I was being definitely afraid of cactuses. So just
Speaker 3: strange phobias, you know, of the things that I remember
Speaker 3: from being in this, but these programs. I remember being
Speaker 3: eight years old and I think I was like second grade,
Speaker 3: and I was practicing like a certain type of jiu jitsu.
Speaker 3: I've never had any type of military or not military
Speaker 3: martial arts at all in my whole life, So I
Speaker 3: don't know what I was practicing, but I knew that
Speaker 3: it was something that was, you know, that I needed
Speaker 3: to know when I was practicing, practicing, practicing practicing. I
Speaker 3: have memories of being in ballet. I've never been in
Speaker 3: ballet ever. I mean the most I did was ice
Speaker 3: skating and roller skating and tennis. Those were things that
Speaker 3: I remember taking lessons in, but I don't remember like
Speaker 3: ballet or like like any of the martial arts or
Speaker 3: training or anything. I remember going on like probably military
Speaker 3: type missions. And I was close to rounds second or
Speaker 3: third grade, close to about second or third grade. I
Speaker 3: was like eight, and I had actual memory. They had
Speaker 3: us all. We had helmets on, we had like vests,
Speaker 3: we had a uniform, and we were in this outside
Speaker 3: this warehouse and they're like, Okay, we are going to
Speaker 3: go in. They said they don't have any weapons. We
Speaker 3: were supposed to go in. It was like a hostage
Speaker 3: type situation and we were gonna they didn't have weapons.
Speaker 3: They just had like knives or something or they were
Speaker 3: just holding these people hostage with no weapons. But they
Speaker 3: supposedly had no weapons and we were going to go
Speaker 3: in without ours as a show of good faith. So
Speaker 3: we go into this warehouse and I'm walking back and
Speaker 3: I get to the very back end of the store
Speaker 3: and there's like these big warehouse like elves like in
Speaker 3: like Costco or whatever. And I get to the right
Speaker 3: back of the store and I kind of turn and
Speaker 3: I and there's this guy standing one of the hostages
Speaker 3: is standing there and he's looking like this, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: what is he looking at? So then I turn around
Speaker 3: and I look up and there's this guy standing there
Speaker 3: with an ar weapon. And all of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: was wearing like a like a like I could hear
Speaker 3: like my my CEO, my commanding officer in my ear,
Speaker 3: and he's telling me retreat, retreat a board board they
Speaker 3: have they have weapons. I mean, there's screaming. I just like,
Speaker 3: turn around, do a one eighty, and I run and
Speaker 3: I can see the aisle that I'm in. I can
Speaker 3: see the doors ahead of me, I can see the outside.
Speaker 3: So I'm like halfway there and I can all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I hear firing. I hear a weapon being discharged,
Speaker 3: and it hits me like I just fall down and
Speaker 3: I got shot, like my lower back and I'm in
Speaker 3: so much pain and it's burning. And I've never been
Speaker 3: shot before ever in my life, but I can tell
Speaker 3: you exactly what it feels like. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: like everybody just kind of converges on me and they
Speaker 3: picked me up, you know, and they're like dragging me out,
Speaker 3: but like I pass out and when I come too,
Speaker 3: and I'm on my bed and I'm like art, Like,
Speaker 3: the pain is so bad. It took probably about six
Speaker 3: minutes or so for it to like fully go away.
Speaker 3: But I literally was in pain when I woke up.
Speaker 3: I could feel it. It was like right in my back.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is is that I've had four
Speaker 3: back surgeries in that exact place, and I finally had
Speaker 3: affusement a couple of years ago because I just it
Speaker 3: was just causing me so much pain. So what, oh, sorry,
Speaker 3: go ahead, tell.
Speaker 2: Me that's some pretty intense stuff. I mean it is.
Speaker 3: Then it is. And you know, I get a lot
Speaker 3: of people that are endo the program. That's it. I've
Speaker 3: never seen you in there, And I was like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, to my actual memory, I was kept around
Speaker 3: my own people, like different tribes and stuff. I just
Speaker 3: remember the people like being around my own people. I
Speaker 3: wasn't around anybody else until probably mid teens. And at
Speaker 3: this point my parents are divorced. My mother for some
Speaker 3: reason drags me to Colorado and I'm there, I'm about
Speaker 3: ready to start school. We find place, we get moved in,
Speaker 3: I'm registering for school, and the next morning, right, you know,
Speaker 3: a couple of days before school starts. I wake up
Speaker 3: and I look at my mom and I'm like, my
Speaker 3: name is Eve, and she just like looks at me
Speaker 3: because Eve was not the name that I was given
Speaker 3: when I was born, but I insist call me Eve,
Speaker 3: and I think I eventually just legally changed it in
Speaker 3: like twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, but I was born with
Speaker 3: a completely different name, and I just it wasn't my name.
Speaker 3: I knew what my name was, you know, and it
Speaker 3: was very unusual, to say the least. My mom said,
Speaker 3: what made you pick Eve? And I was like, I
Speaker 3: just woke up and that was my name. I knew it,
Speaker 3: just like you wake up and you know what your
Speaker 3: name is, you know, I wake up. I knew exactly
Speaker 3: what my name was, except for my mother was calling
Speaker 3: me a different name. So some of this stuff that
Speaker 3: they do, you know, they they they do a lot
Speaker 3: of I don't know if I'm okay to say it,
Speaker 3: but they do a lot of hurting of people intentionally,
Speaker 3: which would be like a lot of POWs have to
Speaker 3: go through a lot of stuff like that as well.
Speaker 3: But we went through it as kids. I remember being
Speaker 3: burnt like with one of those what is that the
Speaker 3: kids use them now to smoke wax. But it's like
Speaker 3: one of those when it pops on no matter where
Speaker 3: I am, if I hear that, I instantly stiffen because
Speaker 3: I remember I was burnt like that. I was burnt
Speaker 3: on my feet, I was burnt on my fingers, anywhere
Speaker 3: that that would like be painful. I was burnt. And
Speaker 3: you know, I remember being shoved under the water or
Speaker 3: having someone put fabric over my face and then pour
Speaker 3: water on me. And this was all when I was
Speaker 3: like a little kid, until I can't remember when it stopped.
Speaker 3: But you know, they do that because they want to
Speaker 3: disassociate and create, like all these altars, and you know,
Speaker 3: most of us that are in the program, we can't
Speaker 3: tell you very much like that. We have no classified
Speaker 3: anything intel. The people that work for these these three
Speaker 3: letter organizations now are white. So they go, you know,
Speaker 3: they go home from from the office to work, and
Speaker 3: as soon as they go out and they pass these doors,
Speaker 3: they don't remember anything that they worked on. They go home,
Speaker 3: they have dinner with the family, they go back to work,
Speaker 3: they swipe in, they walk under in the door or
Speaker 3: some art boom, they remember exactly what they were doing.
Speaker 3: Because that is what happens when you have classified information,
Speaker 3: you do not have that information. I don't understand how
Speaker 3: all these people have all these memories and how that's
Speaker 3: all connected together. It's all in timeline, it's all synchronized.
Speaker 3: I can tell you a lot of the people that
Speaker 3: I like from the program that I'm friends with, we
Speaker 3: don't have that, and we certainly can't validate each other
Speaker 3: on an app on a lot of stuff either. It started,
Speaker 3: I don't know when it started, but a lot of
Speaker 3: people are listening to some experiences and now it's like
Speaker 3: a full fledged thing, you know, where people are like
Speaker 3: talking about it, and it's just like repeating a lot
Speaker 3: of the stuff that other people are talking about. But
Speaker 3: I don't make up anything. I don't watch anybody's interviews.
Speaker 3: No offends to any of my friends, But I don't
Speaker 3: want to interfere with my own memories of being in
Speaker 3: these programs, and I don't want to just you know,
Speaker 3: keep copying word vomit from certain individuals that are that
Speaker 3: are not in the programs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that in private.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a thing, you know, I mean, every you
Speaker 3: can't you can't believe anything that comes out of somebody's mouth,
Speaker 3: sometimes even mine. If that's how you want to feel, like,
Speaker 3: you know, don't trust me, That's fine, I understand because
Speaker 3: some of the things that I say are crazy.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, this is one of these subjects where
Speaker 2: we're never going to find out unless you talk about it.
Speaker 2: But more importantly than that, it's critical that people do
Speaker 2: their own research, and you're only going to be able
Speaker 2: to determine the frequency of truth if you're not living
Speaker 2: lives in your own life. Honestly, that's the biggest barrier
Speaker 2: between people and what we typically call discernment. So I've
Speaker 2: heard a couple not too many, honestly, because this is
Speaker 2: a new subject to me, but I've heard a couple
Speaker 2: tales about this, and I'm not going to call any names.
Speaker 2: I mentioned the person to you in private. I asked
Speaker 2: you what you think, and some of it sounds really
Speaker 2: far fetched, really out there, like how do you remember
Speaker 2: so much? And the reason why I would have a
Speaker 2: question like how do you remember so much? Is because
Speaker 2: I worked with people doing regression therapy. I know what
Speaker 2: it's like when you're going through fragmented memories and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. So how does this person remember so much
Speaker 2: and just like you have heard one other person give
Speaker 2: their recount and it was like fluid the way they
Speaker 2: were talking about it was so fluid. There was so
Speaker 2: much detail, and there was so much stuff that they
Speaker 2: could remember doing and just kind of like, you know, I,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I buy that because it sounded
Speaker 2: like something else I heard somebody else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's one of the reasons why when I realized
Speaker 3: that I was in these programs, I was very quick
Speaker 3: not to watch stuff like if I have if I
Speaker 3: want a specific information, I am usually like someone will
Speaker 3: send it to me and they'll give me a timestamp
Speaker 3: to like, you know, because I was like talking about
Speaker 3: I think it was like Peter Pan programming, which was
Speaker 3: like about a couple of years ago. I always remember
Speaker 3: which apartment I was in, so it was like two
Speaker 3: thousand and twenty two, and I was talking about it,
Speaker 3: and like some of the people that were in the
Speaker 3: program that are in the community were basically saying that
Speaker 3: I was lying. And since then I was able to
Speaker 3: bring out proof and you know, I mean it's like
Speaker 3: now it's a thing. Everybody tacts about it. You know,
Speaker 3: it could be just me that I hear it, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I went through I'm trying to think just I remember
Speaker 3: when I was nineteen, like I my dad did not
Speaker 3: want me in the military at all. He was in
Speaker 3: the military at a very young age. He was like
Speaker 3: seventeen when he was drafted and sent into the Vietnam War.
Speaker 3: And he was like, under no condition are you to
Speaker 3: go and try to enter into any type of military.
Speaker 3: I don't want that for you, you know. I mean
Speaker 3: he was very specific about what he wanted me to do.
Speaker 3: And you know, I have oppositional defying disorder. You know.
Speaker 3: If he would have said, why don't you just you know,
Speaker 3: go little on the beach and play music for a living,
Speaker 3: I probably would have went to law school.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: She was very opposite about everything. I used to fight
Speaker 3: my dad on everything, you know. I remember walking in
Speaker 3: I was nineteen years old and I was walking into
Speaker 3: the recruiter's office and like, I to even check this out.
Speaker 3: I asked somebody that lived in that town. I was like,
Speaker 3: was it there from in this year? Was it where
Speaker 3: I said it was and that, you know, and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was before it moved around the corner. Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: You're completely right. So I walked in there. I remember talking.
Speaker 3: There was like three older gentlemen in there. When was
Speaker 3: you know, they were you know obviously worked, they were,
Speaker 3: but they were military because I talked to them for
Speaker 3: a little bit and then they started talking to me
Speaker 3: about you know, what to expect. I don't remember signing anything.
Speaker 3: But the weird thing is is I don't remember leaving either,
Speaker 3: So that was kind of a weird memory that just
Speaker 3: kind of filtered in a couple of years ago. Otherwise,
Speaker 3: you know, just military type training, whatever it is that
Speaker 3: they make me do. Like I started, I was able
Speaker 3: to like levitate. This might not even be me. This
Speaker 3: might be one of the altars that they you know,
Speaker 3: they get a like a it's almost like a USB
Speaker 3: type ship. I see if I have anything like that.
Speaker 3: But it's it's not that big. It's only like this big,
Speaker 3: and it's like I think it's like put in the
Speaker 3: neck area or the head area somewhere. But you know,
Speaker 3: they can put you in different bodies. Because I remember
Speaker 3: this was a very recent memory. It was like some
Speaker 3: sort of like war, very far far far away from here,
Speaker 3: and we went as children, so we were probably like
Speaker 3: about five years old, six years old, and we were
Speaker 3: expected to do the things that adults do, you know,
Speaker 3: which is what do you do in a war? You know?
Speaker 3: And we had that abilities. I remember being able to levitate.
Speaker 3: I remember being able to jump really far. I remember flying.
Speaker 3: I like, when I say flying, I don't mean in
Speaker 3: in a plane or a hang glider. On my own,
Speaker 3: there is there is no rocket backpack, there are no boots.
Speaker 3: I just get up. I have memories of, you know,
Speaker 3: my light being in my bedroom. My light is on,
Speaker 3: and I walked to a specific place and I can
Speaker 3: walk through a wall and it's almost like a really
Speaker 3: strange type change of frequency. I hear this here, this
Speaker 3: loud buzzing. And then I walked through the wall and
Speaker 3: I was on the third floor in a brick building,
Speaker 3: and I was able to fly. And I can tell
Speaker 3: you even which direction I went. I mean I went
Speaker 3: over a park. I decided to come down and see.
Speaker 3: I said, I'm gonna find this park when I'm awake.
Speaker 3: And I went coming down and I looked at a
Speaker 3: street sign, a green one, and it was nine and
Speaker 3: a half street and I was like, well, that's unusual.
Speaker 3: I'll remember that. A couple months later, I find the
Speaker 3: exact same park. I drive around it bang nine and
Speaker 3: a half street, and I had never been to that
Speaker 3: park before. I had just moved probably to the town
Speaker 3: that I was living in, and I had never been
Speaker 3: that far, so I have no idea what was up
Speaker 3: in that area of that town. So it's people will
Speaker 3: talk about, you know, aliens. I'm trying to think. I
Speaker 3: don't really recall aliens. I remember I've seen some grays
Speaker 3: and they look kind of funny, but they're like little brown,
Speaker 3: They're like brownish gray. And then there's another one where
Speaker 3: they kind of look like they got like a bigger
Speaker 3: head and like a smaller body, and they they are mechanical.
Speaker 3: They don't really talk or really you know, telepathically speak
Speaker 3: with you, but they just they're there to do some
Speaker 3: sort of you know, deed, and usually it's not very
Speaker 3: a good one, you know, like like they're collecting eggs
Speaker 3: or you know, sperm from a male or something, and
Speaker 3: they can put so much stuff in your head it's crazy.
Speaker 3: So you know, most of us, we all kind of
Speaker 3: feel a little bit nutty and out of touch with everything.
Speaker 3: You you, I've had to do, like I think I'm
Speaker 3: going to say, probably close to nine years of shadow work,
Speaker 3: and that's that's going to be probably ongoing for the
Speaker 3: rest of my life, you know. Yeah, I had to
Speaker 3: deal with I used to be terribly afraid of the dark,
Speaker 3: and so my mother had put in a night light
Speaker 3: in my room. And this was the weird one. And
Speaker 3: I've talked about this. I'd be in my bed, she'd
Speaker 3: have the night light, you know, so I was looking
Speaker 3: at it, and I could do this thing where it
Speaker 3: was like a just like a weird shift, and it
Speaker 3: was like it almost kind of felt very like you're discombobulated,
Speaker 3: and it was like I was all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: even though I was in my room, this big, huge,
Speaker 3: clear smartboard would appear on the wall that I was
Speaker 3: looking at, and it would be filled with like mathematical
Speaker 3: you know, geometry, shapes, you know, whatever things that she
Speaker 3: would learn. And I was only like probably first or
Speaker 3: third grade, so definitely things that were way over my head.
Speaker 3: I also had a memory of very recently thought I
Speaker 3: was writing nineteen eighty for quite a few for about
Speaker 3: probably almost a year, and then New Year's Eve came
Speaker 3: and I asked my mother what I was like, it's
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one, and she looked like she was, no,
Speaker 3: it's nineteen eighty, but it was like no way, And
Speaker 3: that means I was writing that for two years, so
Speaker 3: it was like a weird kind of skip or a fallback,
Speaker 3: so something like that. But I remember I was in
Speaker 3: first grade and I was learning like third grade stuff
Speaker 3: and it wasn't my normal school. It was like a
Speaker 3: really different school. And my mother had put me in
Speaker 3: to this school. And I was like, you know, everybody
Speaker 3: was bigger than me, they talked better than me, Like
Speaker 3: like the chairs, my feet didn't even touch the ground.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just it. It didn't feel right.
Speaker 3: What else since there? That's very different. I had a
Speaker 3: dream of this place that I had been to over
Speaker 3: and over for many years, and I described it once
Speaker 3: to somebody that was in the program, and I said me,
Speaker 3: and it was like it was like that old type
Speaker 3: of German you know, with the very light walls or
Speaker 3: the outside walls and then the brown beams you know
Speaker 3: that would kind of cross each other and it would
Speaker 3: look very European. And it was this to me. It
Speaker 3: was like told to me that it was a hotel,
Speaker 3: but it had like almost like kind of an enclosed
Speaker 3: area a little bit. So that the kids could be
Speaker 3: outside stuff. But I was bringing these people here. And
Speaker 3: wherever I was there was like some sort of war
Speaker 3: going on, and I would go and I would find
Speaker 3: these people. They would there was no men of fighting age,
Speaker 3: but there would be mothers and children and elderly people,
Speaker 3: and I would bring them to this hotel. And I've
Speaker 3: had had this dream numerous times in my youth, and
Speaker 3: I knew exactly what that building looked like, and I
Speaker 3: just couldn't remember what it was. Well, someone showed me
Speaker 3: a picture and I also I was able to come
Speaker 3: across it and it was all in German, so I
Speaker 3: had somebody, uh, you know, translated to English. And it
Speaker 3: was the exact same place that I remember it is.
Speaker 3: You won't find it on any American or or Google
Speaker 3: or anything like that. I found it on like Freeform
Speaker 3: or like to Go, and it's under Villa Schulster. And
Speaker 3: this was an and like Germany, I think, And this
Speaker 3: was right around the Second World War, and it was
Speaker 3: the very beginnings of mk Ultra. They were doing experimentation
Speaker 3: there on people down in basements. But I was bringing
Speaker 3: these people there because I thought I was offering them
Speaker 3: shelter and protection and hot food and water, you know,
Speaker 3: because we were in a war. So whatever it was,
Speaker 3: I was this really tall, and I think I was
Speaker 3: like either yeah, I think I was like a German
Speaker 3: boy or something. But I was bringing these people to
Speaker 3: this place. And I find out years later, probably in
Speaker 3: two thousand, twenty twenty one, thought it was called Villa
Speaker 3: Schulster and you can find it as long as you
Speaker 3: can have it. Somebody translated from German to English because
Speaker 3: they've totally white water it from the internet. They didn't
Speaker 3: want people to know that that's where it started. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I've never had anybody really talk to me about it,
Speaker 3: other than a friend of mine that left the community
Speaker 3: because I kind of left the community too because there
Speaker 3: was a lot of people. It was all very clique
Speaker 3: and you know, I thought I had a unique, you know,
Speaker 3: story to share with people, and people I think those
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people need some shadow work
Speaker 3: or something in that community, because I've never had to
Speaker 3: block so many people just because of the way, you know,
Speaker 3: they either you know, took something from me or you know,
Speaker 3: we're saying something about me. You know, that was extremely
Speaker 3: hurtful and not true. And I left, so, you know,
Speaker 3: you asked me you wanted me to talk about some
Speaker 3: of the stuff today, and I agree. I had no problem,
Speaker 3: you know, talking about if I can reach one person
Speaker 3: out of everybody in your listening audience, you know, to
Speaker 3: realize this is why, you know, like I finally have
Speaker 3: some sort of hang on things because you know, for
Speaker 3: me not to know a lot of things, I suffered
Speaker 3: for many years. I would drink, I would use drugs.
Speaker 3: I was a very confused person because I didn't understand
Speaker 3: that a lot of the stuff that I have memories
Speaker 3: of was real because I've never been to Germany. So
Speaker 3: how explained to me how I dreamt about a d
Speaker 3: a German place? You know. I also have memories of
Speaker 3: a palace or some type of building that was very
Speaker 3: very big, like a castle, and I can described I was.
Speaker 3: I can describe from when I was a kid because
Speaker 3: I had been there a couple of times. And they
Speaker 3: sometimes they turned they changed the curtain collars or the drapes.
Speaker 3: They called them the drapes in one of the rooms.
Speaker 3: But every time you walk into that place, there's like,
Speaker 3: uh we you know, there was like a black and
Speaker 3: white piled floor. There were secret to me, it looked
Speaker 3: like stairwells. But I find out later on that they
Speaker 3: are used by the servants so they can get everywhere,
Speaker 3: you know, get to every place without having to pass
Speaker 3: by anybody that's you know, wealthy enough to not want
Speaker 3: to pass by a servant in the hallway. And I
Speaker 3: remember playing in these rooms, you know, I remember going
Speaker 3: up to the attic and seeing you know, the the
Speaker 3: it was like a certain kind of wood cabinets and
Speaker 3: like all the servants would put their stuff in it,
Speaker 3: you know, their jackets, their boots, their you know, if
Speaker 3: they came an umbrellas, if they had umbrellas, you know,
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and it was haunted. It was really haunted.
Speaker 3: And just like going outside and they was just expanse
Speaker 3: of just grass and you know, being in the cellar
Speaker 3: and coming up you know, where they would bring all
Speaker 3: the the stuff that they would keep, the lawns and
Speaker 3: manicure and everything. So, I mean, I have a lot
Speaker 3: of memories of weird places like that, and I've dreat
Speaker 3: about them more than once, you know, And I've had
Speaker 3: some when I fall asleep, and I don't like to
Speaker 3: call them dreams, because you know, they're not dreams. I
Speaker 3: can see signs. I can. Someone hands me a note,
Speaker 3: I can read it, I can use my phone. I eat,
Speaker 3: I sleep. I mean, how many people can actually say
Speaker 3: they sleep in their dream? Not that many. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just kind of felt like things were just
Speaker 3: not right for me. I felt like a freak. Most
Speaker 3: of my life, like very different, and I kept myself
Speaker 3: a lot, but like through high school, I was pushed into,
Speaker 3: you know, being an acting class and things like that,
Speaker 3: because the area that I went into was kind of
Speaker 3: like espionage, like assassin type work. So I've had really
Speaker 3: strange recalls of being this female assassin and having my
Speaker 3: hair up in a beehive and having like the really
Speaker 3: fuller skirted nineteen fifty sixties dress on and a very
Speaker 3: crisp shirt, and they were like, what's in your hand?
Speaker 3: And I lifted my hand and there was like a
Speaker 3: like a really sharp long weapon and they're like, not
Speaker 3: that hand, the other one, And I lift up that
Speaker 3: hand and have you know, a severed head in my hand.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just I don't think that I was
Speaker 3: very much used in a lot of like the space programs.
Speaker 3: I do have memories of flying using portals. These ships
Speaker 3: would be miles long. I think that's one of my altars,
Speaker 3: and she is in some type of space program, but
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the US or not. It'd
Speaker 3: be I'm trying to talk to somebody about the ship.
Speaker 3: Nobody remembers that type of thing, you know, Just things
Speaker 3: like that uniforms I knew I was the other day.
Speaker 3: I this was last year. I started speaking German, and
Speaker 3: my father taught me German when I was a kid.
Speaker 3: I think that's just really an odd thing. You know,
Speaker 3: he knew German more than he knew Ojibweh, which is
Speaker 3: our language. Just I don't know, just really odd things
Speaker 3: like that. And the thing that I talked to you
Speaker 3: about before we decided, you know, when we were talking yesterday,
Speaker 3: the person that you were talking about and my ex
Speaker 3: look like the same person, except for there's twenty year
Speaker 3: difference probably, i'd say between them. And I'll say my
Speaker 3: friend was saying that his father was one hundred percent German,
Speaker 3: but that was literally impossible because there's only one parent
Speaker 3: on the birth certificate. So you technically can't say that
Speaker 3: we were one hundred percent German unless you know for sure,
Speaker 3: which there's a lot of secrets around that so I'm guessing,
Speaker 3: you know, it was somebody that was pretty high up,
Speaker 3: possibly and Operation paper Clip, where they you know, moved
Speaker 3: some of the scientists over here, and right now a
Speaker 3: lot of those scientists, uh, grandchildren and children are running
Speaker 3: this country. And it's kind of a scary thought to
Speaker 3: think about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you've you've said a lot.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I was just like going back and forth,
Speaker 3: but a lot of these memories aren't just you know,
Speaker 3: like I can't organize them and outline them perfectly and
Speaker 3: put dates because it's impossible for me right now, not
Speaker 3: until I can get more you know, of my memories back.
Speaker 3: But you know, they they use a lot of implants
Speaker 3: and mind white techniques to be able to keep us
Speaker 3: from room and bring everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know you have to be careful with
Speaker 2: that because when you're working with these fragmented memories, you
Speaker 2: have to keep track of everything on a timeline and
Speaker 2: you have to. It's almost like having the experience and
Speaker 2: the crazy guy that's got like a big board in
Speaker 2: front of him, and you know, everything is like a
Speaker 2: post it. No, you just tie things together all to
Speaker 2: get one long, seemingly convoluted story and it's difficult, and
Speaker 2: you have to be careful with that too, because if
Speaker 2: there's a government cap of any sorts on a memory
Speaker 2: and you open that up, it could cause you actual
Speaker 2: first and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I've got to recessions with hypnother with my reiki master
Speaker 3: who does the recessions, and I have to tell them
Speaker 3: every single time when I come in there might be
Speaker 3: a certain you know, you might have to deal with,
Speaker 3: you know, possible alters coming out and having you know,
Speaker 3: hitting some sort of a switch, and it can be dangerous.
Speaker 3: It can be. But I mean, as long as the
Speaker 3: person who is working on you is aware of these
Speaker 3: you know things, I haven't had any problems with any
Speaker 3: of it and going back and having recessions. I mean
Speaker 3: I remember being totally hypnotized and somebody was listening to
Speaker 3: the conversation my best friend and I asked them, I go,
Speaker 3: what the heck? Why did I say crystals? Was what
Speaker 3: was the question? And they told me, oh, they asked
Speaker 3: you what you powered your ship with and you said crystals.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, I sweird. And this was
Speaker 3: like two years ago because and you know, I, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I feel like one in my altars was
Speaker 3: like somebody who was a scientist, because I never studied
Speaker 3: any of that. I just went up to you know, what,
Speaker 3: was it algebra one or algebra two in school. I
Speaker 3: didn't really deal with a lot of stuff. But somebody
Speaker 3: was talking about a certain type of mineral that was
Speaker 3: in this cave and it was you know possibly, you know,
Speaker 3: don't like anything near it because it could ignite. And
Speaker 3: I was like magnesium. And they're like, yeah, how did
Speaker 3: you guess? And I'm like, I don't know. It just
Speaker 3: came to me. I have no clue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way it is. Anyways, let's wrap this up.
Speaker 2: My chicken sneezing. So yeah, I've thanks for being on
Speaker 2: a boneless authenticity podcast. This is one of these episodes
Speaker 2: where even I am going to have to listen to
Speaker 2: this two or three times and just be like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck did she just tell me? I just totally
Speaker 2: You have any questions? Yeah, ask me, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: So where can we find you on your podcast?
Speaker 3: I go exclusively to Rumble because I've I just felt
Speaker 3: like YouTube was very was very sensory and censoring everything,
Speaker 3: and I've been seeing a lot of people losing their
Speaker 3: videos and being stricken from the site, and I'm really
Speaker 3: glad that I went to Rumble first because Rumble doesn't
Speaker 3: censor you. I've had some issues getting some of my
Speaker 3: stuff on, but other than that, it's been, you know,
Speaker 3: to me, it's been, it's been a good site. But
Speaker 3: I'm on Rumble. You can look me up at its
Speaker 3: Prime Underscore Declassified Underscore podcast on Rumble. I'm also shaman
Speaker 3: and reiki master healer and I have all of that
Speaker 3: on Facebook under Rising Spirit and you can find Rising
Speaker 3: Spirit Indigenous.
Speaker 4: I G.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I want to say indigenous, but I
Speaker 3: G Facebook TikTok until everything is taken down from there,
Speaker 3: that's right. Oh, you can contact me on Facebook, Eve Howard.
Speaker 3: I do answer questions if you have any questions or
Speaker 3: you need to talk to somebody regarding anything that you
Speaker 3: you know, have a concern for, or just want to
Speaker 3: know something you know. Don't don't hesitate to reach out
Speaker 3: to me. I do have an email. That's Eve Howard
Speaker 3: twenty one at mail dot com, not Gmail, just mail
Speaker 3: dot com. And that's m A I L, not m
Speaker 3: A L.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thanks for being on the show with me.
Speaker 2: To all the listeners, I gotta say this one was
Speaker 2: mind blowing. My brain feels tired, and don't forget to
Speaker 2: smash that leg button.
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