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Speaker 2: Well over the weekend, there was a very interesting interview

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that ran over on the Fox News channel Laura Trump,

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who was actually a North Carolina native, if you weren't

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aware of that, she grew up in the Wrightsville Beach area. Obviously,

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she is a Trump by last name and marrying her husband.

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She did a very interesting sit down interview with the

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White House Chief of Staff. This is an individual by

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the name of Susie Wilds. You've probably heard that name before,

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but you probably and unless you're following things super closely,

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you probably have never seen her before because she doesn't

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do interviews, She doesn't really do a lot of media.

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She is very much a behind the scenes individual and

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a lot of what you have seen take place over

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the last couple of months. A lot of this is

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because of Susie Wilds. She is ran the first of

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all the Trump campaign in the twenty twenty four election cycle,

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and since winning that and Trump getting into the Oval

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office in late January, she has been setting the direction

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of this administration in her role as chief of staff.

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And they joke about this at the beginning of the

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interview that she doesn't do a lot of media. She

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doesn't really talk to the press. She's very much a

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behind the scenes individual. However, listening to this interview and

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listening to the back and forth, Susie Wilds really has

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taken you know, a lot of folks claim, oh, this

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is Trump two point zero compared to what you saw

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in twenty sixteen. A lot of that can be attributed

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to Suzy Wilds. And I just wanted to play a

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little bit for a little bit of it for you

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this afternoon, because it's really an interesting look into why

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this administration is so much different than what we saw

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in sixteen. Right in twenty sixteen, we saw an administration

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of individuals that all did not have the America's best

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interest at heart. Individuals that were in the game in

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the scene for their own personal benefit, and unfortunately that

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cost some big time issues for the Trump administration. That

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cast some big time issues for Donald Trump himself. He

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surrounded himself with individuals that were not looking over looking

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after his best foot forward. He surrounded himself with individuals

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that didn't think, you know, the same way that he did,

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and we're not going to necessarily go down that same path,

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and it cost some big time issues. So here's a

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little bit of the interview. This weekend, Lar Trump with

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her Fox News show My View, sat down with us

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Susie Wiles, the White House Chief Staff. Take a listen.

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Speaker 3: The first time I think you've ever sat down for

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an interview, So thank you for sitting down here with.

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Speaker 4: Me first and probably only.

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Speaker 3: It seems like everything is running smoothly, and I wonder

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from your perspective as White House Chief of Staff, do

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you find that to be the case and are you

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responsible for some of that?

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Speaker 4: You know, the first month we were here, everybody was

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so thrilled to be here, euphoric about where we were

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and having won the election and having the president back.

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Now we're into the time where it's real work. It's

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really long hours it's a slog to get his agenda accomplished.

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I think everybody here that was in the first administration,

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and they're probably about half and half brings of maturity

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and a perspective that they didn't have in twenty sixteen.

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So it's less about a person and more about a

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mindset and people, starting with the President being so comfortable

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and so sure of what we want to do and accomplish.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm going to pause it right there. That cannot

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be understated maturity. The way in which this administration is

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tackling things compared to the way that they did back

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in twenty sixteen is literally night and day. I mean

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it's it's in many cases not even comparable. And I

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think this really shows when you look at all of

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the things that have been accomplished in what are we

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like seventy some odd days at this point. I mean

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we're not even near the hundred day mark. Yet you've

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got all of these things that are being done, all

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of the accomplishments, everything that this administration can point out

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as a major, massive win in the last seventy some

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odd days, and it's because they are coming at this

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with a completely different mindset and that mindset comes with experience.

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most of them had no involvement with government, and that's

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not inherently a bad thing. Of course. The reason that

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Trump was so successful in twenty sixteen, and one of

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the reasons that he rose to popularity during that whole process,

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was because he was, in fact an outside He was

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not the status quo government individual that we have become

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accustomed to running for major political office like president of

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the United States. But with that also has its downsides.

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And so when Susie Wilds talks about the maturity, talks

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about the individuals and the things that they are able

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to accomplish now because they have that maturity, it's pretty

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obvious and evident.

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Speaker 4: So it's less about anybody me or anybody else, and

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more about a team that really believes in the mission

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and the man.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you about the man, President Trump.

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Do you remember the first time he met him?

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Speaker 4: I do, crazy, you know, you don't expect this from that,

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but a mutual friend asked me to go to New

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York and meet him, and I did in late twenty fifteen.

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He was very interested in Florida and what I thought

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his candidacy would look like. There in sixteen we had

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a great conversation, and then about a month later or

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a little bit longer, he said, I'm putting my Florida

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team together. Would you like to be the co chair

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of Florida here? I am.

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Speaker 3: I imagine that a successful one hundred days here, first

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one hundred days at this White House and overall the

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first two years is going to be very impactful for

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the midterms and the twenty eight election.

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Speaker 4: We start with knowing that we have a very short

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time span.

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Speaker 2: This is critically important. Listen to what she says about

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the time span and how things are going to play out.

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Every single person needs to hear. Let's take a listen

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to Susie wilds on with Laar Trump on My View

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on Fox News over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: This eighteen months is our time frame. One hundred days

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certainly six months a year and eighteen months or our

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sort of benchmark. The President came to the office knowing

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exactly what he wanted to do. He did four years

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to think about his agenda and what he maybe didn't

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do as well as he wanted to or didn't accomplish

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full in the first term. So he was ready to

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hit the ground running and it was our job to

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try to keep up. We know where our direction is,

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we know you know, we know who true North is.

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And every day, all day, every day, seven days a week,

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that's what we're trying to get accomplished.

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Speaker 2: Well, very very good stuff there from Susie Wilds and

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that eighteen months. I mean, that's the truth. Right, You've

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got midterm elections that will be here before you know it,

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as we head into the latter part of next year,

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and even before that, you're going to have things start

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ratcheting up as we get into the later part of

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this year, once candadate filing begins and some of the

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lines in the sand begin to be drawn as to

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what are the midterm elections going to look like for

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both political parties in twenty twenty six. Are there some

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things that we can have some previous things to go

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off of. Midterm elections are typically not very good for

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the party that's currently in power. And as we sit

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here this afternoon, it is a Republican president in the

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oval office. It is Republicans in control of the House

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and Republicans in control of the Senate. And so with

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that you would look and say, well, if I was

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a gambling man, I'd have to bet that things in

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the midterms are not going to be great for Republicans,

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and we don't really know how that's going to play out,

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but using past history as an indicator of the future,

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that's what you would believe, and that would be a

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pretty strong assumption and a pretty good assumption. And so

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this administration is keenly focused on getting as much of

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their agenda passed through, get as much of their agenda

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rolled out in eighteen months as anything else. As you

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just heard from her, it's one hundred days, six months

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and eighteen months. No discussion of two years, three years,

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or four years. They're trying to get everything jammed into

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these first eighteen months before the midterm elections because depending

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on how those shakeout, which again using recent history as

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an example, could not be might not be better official

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for Trump and the Republicans, and essentially to a backlog

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in government as parties continue to change and as you

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may have a change in power. Very very good insight

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there from Susie Wilds, who is the first I'll know,

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first female chief of staff in US history. I don't

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believe I've seen that discussed on any of the major

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news networks that love to promote those kinds of things

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within administrations.

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Speaker 2: I had the opportunity to watch the Susie Wilds interview

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that she did with Laura Trump on her Fox News

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show over the weekend and played a little bit of

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it for you in the last segment, and I really

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don't think it can be understated how again, how different

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this administration is from the first. Now, obviously Trump still Trump,

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still doing his Trump thing day in and day out,

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and some of the same individuals are still around, but

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the way in which they are focused, the way in

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which they are tackling the issues, is unlike what we

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saw in the first term. And of course a lot

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of that just comes from, frankly, experience. I mean, there's

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no other way to describe it. When you've been in

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the position before, when you've gone through the issues that

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are likely to pop up because of you know, whatever

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you're trying to do, and you've worked through those in

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the past, you're obviously going to be better at dealing

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with those the second time around. And that's a big

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part of it. But one of the other things is

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the fact that Trump's had four years to assemble a

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team and figure out how to go through his agenda,

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and he's doing it at an unbelievably rapid rate. He's

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doing it at an astonishing rate. I got an email

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over the just in the last couple of hours from

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the White House Press Pool, and once again, all of

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their schedule for today, Trump is signing executive orders. I

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think around one o'clock this at one thirty this afternoon,

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he's going to be signing more around five thirty. The

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media is going to be in the Oval Office. I mean,

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this is seemingly a daily occurrence at this point. I

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don't know that we've ever seen an administration hit the

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ground running as quickly as Trump two point zero is

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what we'll call it. I don't know that we've ever

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seen that before. And I think it has everything to

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do with the very short timetable that you heard from

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Susie Wiles. The eighteen month restriction that they've essentially put

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themselves under the limit that they've said, this is how

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this is. At least we've got to get most of

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this stuff rolled out, or at least in the beginning

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processes of it being rolled out, within eighteen months, because

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as you get closer and closer to the midterm elections, well,

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side of the political aisle that will use whatever the

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Trump administration is doing to demonize individuals that are running

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for both the House and the Senate that are, of

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course Republicans that will be running, irregardless of whether big

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Trump fans or not, will be running on Trump's agenda,

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will be running on Trump's narratives. That's how it goes

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when you've got somebody like him up in Washington, DC.

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as he is in the oval office, it's a trickle

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down effact, and that comes with its pros, it comes

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with his cons and that's going to be a major

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hurdle for Republicans to deal with as we get into

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the middle parts of twenty twenty six, maybe even the

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earlier parts of next year. Anything that Trump does anything

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that Republicans do, they are going to have to answer

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for out on the campaign trail. And so it is

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very very smart for this administration to know what is coming,

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to know what they are looking down the barrel at

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in terms of the time frame on all of this

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and figuring out how to go through the process. Susie

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a day, as they're working through this stuff day in

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and day out, how do we do this in an

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effective manner? And I'd say for the most part, it's

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been pretty effective thus far. The things, the changes that

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you've already seen in less than one hundred days are remarkable.

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The complete and total compare and contrast from the previous

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administration to where we are right now is night and day.

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It's not even close in terms of its comparison, and

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there's a variety of issues where it's wrong though well.

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of the news this weekend between Russian and Ukraine, some

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things going on both with Russian President Vladimir Putin and

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the Ukrainian president Zelenski. This was a war that started

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over three years ago. This is a war that has

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been brewing and did brew under previous administrations, not only

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here in the United States, but all throughout Europe. Nothing

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was done with it. Yeah, there was a lot of

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rhetoric coming out of the President of the United States

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and Joe Biden. There was a lot of rhetoric from

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European leaders and the One World Government Group, the European Union,

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a lot of great rhetoric from them. But what it

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had ended up, what did it relates to? What did

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it end up causing?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: The war still broke out, bloodsheds still happened in hundreds

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of thousands of people when you count the militaries and

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everybody surrounding it. All the death and bloodshed and for

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what for nothing? But nobody else wanted to handle this.

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The previous administration was unwilling to do anything about it.

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So now you've got Trump, who's been in office seventy

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some odd days at this point. He's already opened the

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line of communication with the Russian president, something that the

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previous administration didn't do at all. And now you're starting

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to see things, at least as it seemed as we

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headed into Friday, things that seemed to be coming together.

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There there seem to be some path forward for a

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peace deal. Hopefully that's still on the table after a

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little less stutter step over the weekend. But it's amazing

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how calm, cool and calculated this administration is with everything

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that they're doing. Oh and by the way, at the

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same time, I always love to mention this, You've never

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had more access you and I as regular everyday people,

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have never had more access to an administration than right now.

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With the media avails, with the individuals that they're inviting

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into not only the White House Press Briefing Room, but

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into other areas of the White House to chat with

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the president, to chat with his senior advisors. We haven't

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seen this before. It's never been done yet. Individuals will

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still claim there's no transparency or that things are being

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hidden behind the scenes. I'm not sure how that's possible

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with Trump on TV seemingly every night signing executive orders.

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Speaker 1: All right, if you're listening to this show now, I

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Speaker 2: Turning our attention now to some very interesting international news

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over the last couple of days, and things between Russia

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and Ukraine have essentially been staggnedant now for quite some time.

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I mean, obviously in the early days of the fighting,

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you had Russia with their attempt to make their major

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land grab that was an abysmal failure on their behalf.

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And really after the first few months after this war

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broke out, it's for the large part been a very

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big stalemate since then in the eastern part of Ukraine.

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For whatever reason, the previous administration thought it was a

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good idea to not open the channel of communication between

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the United States and the Russian President Vladimir Putin, so

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no discussions ever took place. Now we've got a new

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guy in the Oval Office, a guy that campaigned on

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getting this war to an end, getting a ceasefire, getting

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a peace agreement, and well he is following through on that.

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week or the week before. Seemingly talks were going well.

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Obviously a little bit of a mess up there by

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the Ukrainian president back about three weeks ago when he

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was in the Oval Office with JD. Vance and Trump

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tried to make a little bit of a plead in

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front of the American media, in front of the American press,

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to then quickly be slapped down by the Vice President

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and the President himself. Things were a little rocky there

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for a period of time, but everything seems to have

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healed so over. It actually happened late Friday night. It

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didn't really get into the American media until about midday

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through Saturday, but the Russian president in Vladimir Putin has

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essentially claimed that the Ukrainian government is illegitimate, claiming that

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the government doesn't really even exist, and made the point

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quote that there should be some sort of trans national

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government end quote might be necessary for Ukraine, which would mean,

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you know, overthrowing the current government and bringing some other

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governing body in. Now, this of course, has very much

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frustrated President Donald Trump. Right, nobody else seems to have

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wanted to end this war. And I don't say that lightly,

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but I mean, there was all this grand standing from

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European leaders, like three or four weeks ago, after Zelensky

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came to the United States and got laughed out of

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the Oval Office by Trump in vance, all these European

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leaders talk about how they're gonna bring the fight and

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they're gonna solve this war and bring it to an end.

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All of these guys have been around this entire time

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at any point over the last three years, all of

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the great leadership throughout Europe, all the great countries of

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the European Union could have ended this war if they

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wanted to, right, that's what they claimed. Why didn't they

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do it? I mean, why did they allow hundreds of

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billions of dollars worth of aid from the United States

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and all of these other europe Peing countries to flow

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into Ukraine if it was as simple as just ending

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the war, like they would want you to believe, Because

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of course, it's not that simple. When you're talking about

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a major geopolitical conflict like this, it's not that simple.

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It's hard to get everybody to the table, and it's

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hard to begin the process of talking about a ceasefire

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and talking about an eventual peace agreement and an end

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to the war, right because when you don't have a

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clear winner or loser, which there's not going to be here.

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Russia wants all of Ukraine, they're not going to get it.

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Ukraine wants to be part of NATO, that's not going

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to happen. They are going to have to be concessions

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from both sides. And when there has to be concessions

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from both sides, neither party is one hundred percent happy.

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We get back to a word that we hear often

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in US politics, but doesn't often play out compromise the

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sea word. We hear it all the time about we

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need to compromise on this, compromise on that what we're

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talking about. As these talks continue for the in the

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coming weeks and months, we're going to be talking about

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true and actual compromise. Both of these groups, both of

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their high up officials in the presidents of both countries

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Ukraine and Russia, are going to have to come to

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the table and give up serious concessions. There are going

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to be compromises made by both entities. And for the

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life of me, I cannot figure out why the Russian

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president would be making these comments the way that he

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did on Friday. He is in an awful situation right

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now in Ukraine. It just based on sheer military might

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and military capability, this war should have been no more

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than a couple of weeks, maybe a month or two

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at the absolute most. With the amount of military muster

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that Russia had in comparison to Ukraine, this thing should

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have been over before it started. That didn't happen. Russia

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did not bring their a game for their war. Trying

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to hold up this national persona or this international persona

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of the big, bad, mighty Russia. That didn't happen, and

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since then we've been in a stalemate. Putin needs a ceasefire.

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Putin needs a peace agreement just as much as Ukraine does.

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And so the idea that he's out in speaking to

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Russian media about the Ukrainian president, about the Ukrainian government

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really ticking off President Trump, seems incredibly stupid to me.

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The Russian people are against this war. The morale on

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the front lines with the individuals that are currently fighting

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this war for Russia is incredibly low. I mean, this

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is not a good situation for him to be in.

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And the fact that he is seemingly pulling a plan

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out of the Zelensky playbook of ticking off Trump and

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you know, messing him up on the national stage is

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a really, really bad idea. We saw how that worked

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for Vladimir Zelenski. We saw what happened when he came

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to the White House and tried, you know, pulling back

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the curtain on all of this in front of the

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American media to try and paint a different picture. It

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didn't work in his favor. And you know, when you

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heard from from Trump some of the comments you heard

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it in the news reports over the weekend, when Trump's saying,

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I'm really ticked off with Vladimir Putin. I'm really ticked

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off with his comments that he's made about the Ukrainian

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government and the Ukrainian president. That's not a good situation

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for Putin to be in. Trump is going to broker

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this deal. Nobody else has the willingness to do so,

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and anybody that says that they're going to is full

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of it. They've had years to broker this deal. They've

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had years to bring peace between Russia and Ukraine, and

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they've done nothing. It's been the United States that has

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been the largest funder of this war, and now once

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again it's the United States that is bringing the two

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parties together. So why Zolenski is saying this and doing

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this knowing that it's going to irritate Trump, who at

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this point is the only one that's going to give

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him any shot at getting any sort of decent peace

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deal or agreement makes absolutely no sense to me. And

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it's not just Putin. Zelenski over the weekend as well,

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trying to redraw the mineral rights agreement.

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Speaker 2: We are discussing this afternoon the ongoing in the in Europe.

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As you've got both back and forth comments over the

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weekend from both the Russian president in Vladimir Putin and

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the Ukrainian president in Vladimir Zelenski, both of which equally

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irritating President Donald Trump, who has been the only one

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that has seemingly been willing to bring these two parties

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together and to get an eventual ceasefire and peace agreement

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between the two countries. He's Putin over the weekend claiming

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that the Ukrainian government is illegitimate and throwing shade on Zolensky,

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questioning whether a third party government agency needs to be

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brought in to lead that country. And then Zolensky over

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the weekend as well, is now talking about backing out

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of the mineral rights deal. And so, you know, my

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question is a legitimate one. I think this afternoon, do

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either of these guys actually want peace? I mean, we

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hear them say, well, we hear at least from Zelensky

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all the time. We don't hear much from Putin with

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all of the state run media in Russia, but we

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hear from Zelensky all the time about piece this piece

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that why are both of these guys seem hell bent

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on screwing up the deals that are in front of

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them right now. The report over the weekend on Sunday

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was that Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky is trying to back

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out of the mineral rights agreement with the United States,

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adding that if adding that only this goes forward, if

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he becomes a member of NATO, He's not going to

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become a member of NATO. That's just not going to happen.

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I was just talking about earlier how both sides are

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going to have to have concessions. Neither side is going

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to get everything like what they want. Neither side is

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going to get one hundred percent of what's on their

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wish list. This isn't Christmas Eve, Santa Claus isn't coming

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down the chimney in just a couple of hours, or

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we're talking about war. We're talking about a war that

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neither side is going to win. There are going to

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be losses, and there already have been major losses on

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both sides. And so now that you've got Zelensky who's

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seemingly got a decent deal in front of him, with

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this rare earth mineral rights deal, which would give the

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United States a vested interest in the recovery and the

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rebuilding of his country. Why is he trying to screw

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this up? I really am struggling to wrap my head

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around why he continues to go back and potentially gum

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up this agree that for Ukraine is a pretty good deal.

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It makes the United States have a vested interest in

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the future of their country. The way that the mineral

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rights agreement, at least the original one that was supposed

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to be signed about three weeks ago, the way I

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understood it and the way that it was explained by

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administration officials, was that it would give the United States

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a certain cut of new rare earth minerals that are

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mined out of Ukraine, and with that there would be

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a huge encouragement for those to be exported out of

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the country. It would keep the United States and give

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us something to look forward to out of Ukraine begin

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the process of paying back the three hundred plus billion

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dollars that we've shipped over there. And the fact that

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the United States would have a vested interest would be

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a very good thing for Ukraine. It would be a

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very good thing for the long term sovereignty of that nation.

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And so the fact that Zelensky is one again complaining

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and crying about NATO. That's never been part of this discussion.

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Trump even said over the weekend, quote, we made a

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deal on rare earths. And now he's saying, well, you know,

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I want you to negotiate and renegotiate the deal. Trump's saying, quote,

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he wants to be a member of NATO. Well he

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thinks that, well, that's never going to happen. He's never

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going to be a member of NATO, and he understands that.

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So if he's looking to renegotiate the deal, he's got

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big problems. Sounds pretty accurate. I mean, I don't think

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that the Trump is embellishing anything in his comments there.

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Zelensky's going to have some big problems if he wants

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to renegotiate this deal and be and be you know,

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kind of stand the line on getting into NATO. It's

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just not going to happen. As much as he might

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want it to take place, it's just not going to

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And so what this whole thing seemed to be trending

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in the right direction. Like Thursday, Friday last week, things

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like they were heading in a pretty good direction. In

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the middle part of last week, it was an at

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least temporary ceasefire over some waterways that was agreed upon

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by both countries, at least tentatively agreed upon. It seemed

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like the ball was beginning to move down the field,

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which is something that we have not seen in quite

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some time with this conflict. Something that we have not

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seen for quite some time with this war. There's been

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very little progress, very little movement all over the board,

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from the physical war itself to any sort of agreement

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being made. Trump, the powerful individual that he is, the

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individual that has campaigned and talked very clearly about bringing

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some sort of conclusion here, getting some of this stuff

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squared away, finding how we get both of these parties

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to the table to begin the process of negotiating. Trump

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seemingly was making some really good progress, and now both

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of these guys, independently of each other, are now both

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irritated Trump and potentially putting some of these peace talk agreements,

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some of these ceasefire deals on hold. And for the

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life of me, I can't figure out why did Zelensky

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not learn his lesson three weeks ago, four weeks ago

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when he was here in the US. Did he not

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learn that he's gonna have to take essentially whatever deal

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gets given to him. Yeah, he can negotiate a little

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bit here and there, but he's still going back to

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this NATO thing. Did he not learn his lesson? And

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with Putin he's not gonna win. He has no path

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forward to quote unquote win the war. So why is

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he claiming that the Ukrainian government is illegitimate? Why is

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he irritating and ticking off Trump, who at this point

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is the only individual that's going to get him anything

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in this at all? Right, the rest of Europe's not

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going to get him anything. I mean to me, it

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just makes absolutely no sense why both of these leaders

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are acting in the manner that they are. We'll see

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kind of what comes of this and news wise over

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the next couple of days.

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Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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