Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another spicy Weekly Geek.
This week we got the Whalers. I'm one of the Whalers,
the secret delay Cookland Patzer.
Speaker 2: Ah, Hey, I'm.
Speaker 1: Dylan mus Yes, ladies and gentlemen, If you haven't caught
on now, you know that's our duo name the Whalers
in honor of the great and Powerful Dishonored franchise. To
check out the arcane retro on the on the side
quest feeds. Yeah, we got we got some juice to
unravel here today, which should be a fun episode. Before
we get into all of that, just a couple of
quick things to shout out. We have a spicy side
quest that just dropped which also included the Whalers. That
was back to back of Monday and Tuesday of Dylan
Musk and Kirkland Patzer, the Dynamic duo. We talked about
a lot of fun stuff in there, just kind of
games we've been playing. Don't like set, I'm kind of
taking your spiel. I know it's your show. I apologize,
I'll let you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not my show, it's it's our show, so yeah,
please go ahead. No, it was it was a really
fun episode. I think we want some good tangents. I
made it very potentially embarrassing confession an episode, but you
got to go listen to it find out what that
confession was. So tease.
Speaker 1: I found out Stellar Blades getting a sequel, so that
was that was great. Yeah, yeah, no, it was fun there.
We just finished off Last of Us season two. That
show is complete, the story is not complete, but so
Fast seasons complete, and our reviews for that season are complete.
They're all on the feeds. We also just dropped a
Mission Impossible eight, which is not what it's called. It's
called Mission Impossible, the final reckoning that is closing off
the chapter potentially of the Mission Impossible franchise.
Speaker 2: And the question on that one, am I gonna have
to watch that before Golden Geeks.
Speaker 1: It's funny we punch in the review. I don't want
to spoil all of our thoughts because you know, go
check out the review for all of that. I was
the most positive on it, and Travis and Taylor were
in a different category of thoughts. It was a fun discussion,
but there was definitely some really really good positives of
like sequences to shout out, so so we talked.
Speaker 2: About best scenes scenes for sure, but we were.
Speaker 1: Talking about that on like is this worthy to force
Dylan to have to watch this? And we didn't think so,
but maybe I I YouTube those two.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say that, just gonna say that there,
because I assume at least one of them is like
an action scene, so it's like I don't need to
have the character investment. I can just watch that, right.
Speaker 1: I think there's two fun Like, there's a lot of
good stuff in there, but like, for me, two phenomenal
sequences that are like worth talking about. I think one
will make it on the the uh the what would
I call it? The nominations category? And for that, I
think that's a YouTube worthy scene. So nice across that
page and we get there. But yeah, in honor of
Mission Possible, we just wrapped up the Mission Impossible retrospect.
We covered every movie except for Deadrecking Part one, but
we also already have a review for that, so that's
on the feed. We're actually gonna be recording our rankings
for that, closing off the chapter completely this week, so
that's gonna be on the feeds. What else we got,
I think that's kind of it for shows like we
Wrapped Up and or a couple of weeks ago. You
of course that's a little bit more of a while ago.
But yeah, I know that's all of that stuff on
the feeds. I think I'm really missing any any main things.
So I think, uh, with all that being said, we're
just gonna we're gonna jump right into it. And you know,
if you're if you're listening to this and you're like,
why didn't you talk about the Patreon, I'm gonna bring
that up later because uh, that's just how I'm feeling
today on this this fine Tuesday after to mix it out. Yeah, absolutely,
Dylan Muss. We got some topics. I haven't talked about
things that I've been watching lately, and I've kind of
been itching for that, So like, do you have anything
that you want to talk about for things we've been watching.
Speaker 2: I there's one show, the Rehearsal, that me and Travis
have both been watching, so I think I'll maybe save
that and he and I can have a little mini
discussion on the next castor or weekly GIK that we're
both on. But love that, love that show. It's there's
nothing like it in the world. It is a one
of a kind thing and it's almost like a the
Nathan Fielder verse of it all of like really satisfying
if you watch the first season, if you watch Nathan
for you, if you've seen the Curse, even like there's
it's like if you it's so rewarding as someone who's
watched like everything he's done. So yeah, I love that.
But yeah, I'll talk about that more in depth maybe
with with Travis and then other than not really just
the Studio. I've been watching that, but I'm not done
it yet. I have like two or three episodes left.
That's the one the Seth Rogan kind of uh you know,
parody on like a what a film studio is? Like,
the show is amazing, super super funny, very creative. Every
episode like has its very special flavor to it. It's
not just like you're like every episode is very distinct
in that way, which I which I'm really enjoying. So
that's really really fun. But I think those are kind
of the big for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, nice, it's funny. I keep forgetting that the
what's it called again? The what you just talked about?
This the Seth Rogen one the studio. Yeah, I keep
forgetting that's a TV series. I I always just like, yeah,
I gotta throw that movie on sometime. And it's on Apple.
Is that where it is?
Speaker 2: Apple?
Speaker 1: Okay? Nice? Yeah, I'll have to I'll have to cross
that one off the list at some point becase, yeah,
I've only heard great things from it, and I keep
getting like little scenes or something just pop up all
my feeds, and the cast is kind of like surprising too,
like I forget about some big names that are in there. Yeah. Nice, Well,
what I've been watching is a lot of mission possible,
So go check out for sure the retrospective for all
of my thoughts there. But the big juice e one
to talk about is Dexter. I've been rewatching Dexter, and
I made it all the way to I'm on season
four now, episode two. For those of you that are
familiar with that season or the show in general, that's
the that's the Trinity Killer event, which is a big.
Speaker 2: You've seen Dexter before? Absolutely? Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah? Nice? Do you have like a lot of
like what's the word I would say, like like quick
access memories when it comes to the show, Like, are
you like Travis where you're like season two episode nine,
I remember this dialogue.
Speaker 2: Oh it didn't definitely not yeah, definitely not that. But
you know, as someone who has a I feel like
my memories got a lot worse for things in the
geek first era, which is weird. You would think that,
like we talk about these things, we review them, but
I feel like I just see so much more than
I used to before, so like it's hard for me
to keep track of it all. And I also feel
like there's something weird. But like when you do a
podcast and you talk about a movie, it's almost like
you're taking your thoughts and you're like they're leaving your body.
It is something I find and then usually for golden Geeks,
they stick around, they linger a little bit, but after
that things just flee in my mind. So my memory
for specific episodes and things is not great. But I
feel like Dexter is a show that's one of my
all time favorite shows, but not when I've rewatched since
you know, it was airing. I didn't watch it from
the beginning, but like caught up by the last couple
of seasons and was watching it live. But I've never
revisited it, so yeah, it gets a little fuzzy for sure,
but I feel like I do have a lot of
really strong memories of that of that show, and definitely
yeah that that season you're on currently is is an
all time great one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, I'm and you know, I completely
agree with that thought on like, the more we talk
about these things, you think I would just have them,
like I can pull them out of my my ying
yang whenever I need to, which I can sometimes sometimes
the randomly just pops in my head. But because we
we just talk about so many things, it's just like
it's just it's like an ocean of of things to
pull from, and you know that little that little fluff
on the water might just be in the wrong side
when you when you want to pull it in. And
then yeah, she has a detour. He said he just
finished Dexter season two on my.
Speaker 2: First first so that's really what.
Speaker 1: I'm Yeah, I'm glad that you said that because I
potentially might have spoiled some things in my thought. It's
a really old show, so of course you might be like, wow,
you can talk about the show. This show has been
out forever. But you know, in honor of the great
detol I'm not going to do that. But I hope
you're enjoying a.
Speaker 2: Detail because in the in the discord as you're going through, Absolutely.
Speaker 1: We'll do a Dexter chat room.
Speaker 2: I think we might still have one from like whatever
the last season was that show. It might still be
up there actively.
Speaker 1: It might be. We usually recycle them, so it's like
if you go to like the top of like the
Last of Us chat room, it's like, I don't know,
there's like some Star Wars stuff discussed in there, so
they definitely cross over there. But yeah, with all that
being said, I'm on season four now, that the Triny
Killer season, and I'm not gonna detail everything that's been
going on because it's a show that's that's been out
for a while. And I feel like the biggest thing
for me on this rewatch is actually how much I
forgot about, Like I like, like like I thought the
Bay Harbor Butcher stuff, which is the season two that
Detol just finished, Like I thought that came way later
in the show. They're even like the season three stuff
with Miguel Prado, Like I feel like I thought that
came way later in the show. Also, I also just
didn't really remember like everyone kind to just just I
don't know, interact with each other or just just like
certain character, like certain side characters get introduced in the show,
like I thought they'd just come way later, and then
it's like, oh, there's there's Detective Quinn. He's just in
the show already.
Speaker 2: Quick hack for Dexter's Like, was it awesome?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: It was probably in the first four seasons in terms
of your memory, right, because then everything after that gets
a bit it's a bit funky. I was on my
head now that you mentioned it's like I don't really
know what happened, Like I kind of forget what happens
in season five, like is that the Loom and stuff
and with like that.
Speaker 1: Going on, I don't really remember. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to say.
Speaker 1: Because I first watched the show in high school, which
you know, I'm I feel like I'm a young tale,
but I'm definitely not. When I look at the dates
and how long it's been since I graduated high school.
Speaker 2: That thing was crushing it on Netflix, I think back
in the.
Speaker 1: Day, so absolutely, and I, like you said, like this
was one of my favorite shows. I still think that,
but I feel like I'm being pretty critical now on
the on this second view and I think certain things
I don't want to say they're like aging differently, but
like maybe I just saw like it being a perfect
show with no flaws, and Travis's gonna be listening to
this and He's gonna be just like tearing me at
parks like it is a perfect show. Him and I
have gone back and forth on that off cast, but no,
I I think it is still really great. I think
Michael C. Hall is phenomenal. Dev is really good. She's
a very flawed I mean they're all flawed characters, but
like like for Deb in particular, I feel like she he's.
Speaker 2: A perfect guy serial killer.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a good guy. He goes by the code.
So many characters though in this pretty much all the
characters are like very flawed characters and it makes for
interesting storywriting. But I just think there's certain there's certain
things and like like peat things that characters do that
is just so annoying and it's nothing new to like
just specifically dexter. I feel like many shows do this,
especially ones that go on for many seasons. But it's
just bugging me, I think as I'm going through it,
And yeah, I definitely don't think this is a perfect
show by any means, even the first three seasons that
I've been on. Season one, I think it's phenomenal. I
still have some issues with it. Season two I thought
was better than season one until I got introduced to
Lila again or reintroduced to Lila again. Detour, what do
you think about Lila? Because I fucking hate Lilah. I
hate that character so much. Maybe she's important for the
overall situation, what's going on with the story and Dexter's progression,
but yeah, I hate Lilah, so as soon as she
was introduced, I just tanked that season for me. Season three,
there's a lot of fun stuff, but again it's just
like Dexter is such a stupid guy sometimes with how
carefully supposed to be. So no, I'm really enjoying the rewatch.
It's been like kind of low priorities, like when I
have time, I'll throw on an episode or two. But
I've kind of been plugging away at at a decent pace,
Like I think. Last time I was on a Weekly Geek,
I was with Travis and I was talking to him
about it. So yeah, no, it's it's been fun. I
am gonna finish it I think I've never finished all
of Dexter before. Yeah, there you go. Me and my
girlfriend definitely hated Lylah. Yeah, she's she's an unlikable character.
Speaker 2: She's a drama causer, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeahah, absolutely, they do a really weird thing at
the end, like aus details finished it, so so he
now knows they like keep Lilah around and then and
then it's like, oh, she's gonna pop up later on
in the show at some point, and then it's like
an epilogue that happens in the same episode and like
she gets dispatched, and it's it's just like, yeah, I
don't remember that, Why did this even happen? And there's
a weird, weird fast travel thing that Dexter does that
just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: So don't get Taylor started on that he hates when
Fast Travel TV's a movie. When you were in high school,
where did you envision that someday you would You're like,
I want to live in an apartment like Dexter has.
Was was that ever a thing that I feel like
back in the day, I was always like, that's the
perfect department for a bachelor, Like I will be someday
I don't think for Dexter.
Speaker 1: I've definitely had that, like for watching shows.
Speaker 2: It's not a huge apartment, like it's pretty humble, but
it's kind of like it's got everything you need. Nice,
great the living room set up. Yeah, yeah, beautiful view.
Speaker 1: Of the ocean, and like it's it's really easy to
hide secrets in clearly. Yeah, he probably is the ring
in there at some point, in some envelope that we
don't even know about, you know, the one ring to
rule them all.
Speaker 2: I thought you met the horror movie for a second
and I was like, I don't get the reference.
Speaker 1: And then it came to again, I've never seen that movie,
so I'm not pulling that one. Uh what does he say?
I kind of saw it coming and pinning it on Doaks.
But at the same time, how they did it was great. Yeah, Doaks.
Doaks was phenomenal. I think Doaks was really fun.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I've never seen that actor in anything else,
and that is such a shame, Like put him in
a Tarantino movie or something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You have seen him in something. I'm like ninety percent
sure I have seen a certain movie many times. It's
one of my favorite childhood movies, and I think it
still holds up the Great National Treasure with h with
Nicholas Cage. Have you seen this movie? Oh you haven't
seen the first?
Speaker 2: Oh my, is that surprising to you? I feel like
that's perfect. Like I guess classic movie that Dylan hasn't seen.
Speaker 1: I guess not, And I think that's come up before.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, I try not to make my
big holes in movies that I've seen super known. Sometimes
sometimes people talking about something they love and I haven't
seen it. I just shy away into a corner. But
it's hard when I'm here on a weekly geek, it's
just me and you. You know, I'm in the ring.
I can't can't deny my lack of viewing there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely get exposed on this on this program. That's
what we do here. But no, he he is like
a very nothing FBI agent in that movie, and at
some point he just.
Speaker 2: Like still a cop. He's still a cop.
Speaker 1: He looks the exact same, he's just as jacked. He's
got to go the same mustache. I don't think he
has a single line, but he is in there. And
I have seen that movie so many times and I've
even like rewatched it not too long ago, and I'm
watching Dexter right now, you think it would have caught
like I would have seen it. No, completely over my head.
Taylor was watching it, and then he he informed me,
which was kind of a mind blow moment, just with
how much I've seen that and how much I've seen
Like I haven't rewatched Dexter until now, but like the
amount of times I've seen Doaks on memes, you know,
surprised me.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, I remember some fries, motherfucker. I don't
know the other ones were, but I remember a million
variations on that.
Speaker 1: There's many of them, So yeah, that's a recognizable face.
And I did not And apparently he's not acting anymore.
He just kind of he did a little stint and
and that's that. Travis Tolt was telling me that. So
if it's wrong, blamed Travis. But yeah, and then last thing,
Detol said, here is crazy Mike from Breaking Bad is
in there. I've never seen anything else. Yeah, I had
the same thought. Also, I was like, holy shit, there's
Mike and he looks exactly same. He doesn't Break It Bad.
But yeah, no, that's what I was trying to say.
I am committed. I'm going to finish the show. We're
entering the Dexter MCU, essentially the Dexter Cinematic Youth DC.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the probably already there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I I'm I'm happy, I'm doing my homework here.
I'm gonna I'm gonna know, going into all these other
variations of the shows. Yeah, so, uh nice, that's my Dexter.
Uh what I've been watching and nothing really else beyond that.
I've kind of been away this last week, so.
Speaker 2: I'll keep it busy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely hour long episodes.
Speaker 2: And it sounds like you're really giving it your full attention.
I feel like, on to rewatching them, it's like, Okay,
I'm gonna play videome while I do this, or I'm gonna,
you know, file my taxes. But it sounds like you're
in there and you are watching this show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like I'll throw on the iPad
while I'm cooking or something, and if I happen to step.
Speaker 2: Away, clad that's where I feel like you do most
of your TV watching these days.
Speaker 1: So well, hmm, probably probably like fifty that's a lot. Yeah,
that is a lot. Yeah, I don't know just a cooker.
That's what I do. Go in the kitchen and like overcook,
runn around by, still have time to watch my not
a chef, but a cooker. Okay, Yeah, I never thought
I was an iPad kid or anything like that. Shakee
keeps trying to give me that Moniker, because I do
like to just watch things while I'm like folding laundry,
cooking dishes, like, I just like to consume content while
I'm doing that.
Speaker 2: I guess that makes me I'm a bit more podcasting,
which is easier because I don't have to like look
at a screen.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: But i'vem doing a lot of that for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there you go. And Detail says anyone can cook.
I don't know if that's a slight at me or
anything like that, but I'll take it that way. So
that's fighting words. Detail you better.
Speaker 2: I think it's a reference to Ratitude, which I actually
did watch last week, which is nice. Weird timing. I
didn't feel the need to bring it up, but I
love Gratitude. It's great, it's great.
Speaker 1: I love that movie. All Right, that was a good
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interesting stuff, alright, Dylan muss, Hey, you got some We
got some juice flowing in the nether realms and the
UH and the sphere of Avengers Land and mc U
and specifically the big movies, the big title movies. When
I say big movies in the MCU, what do you
think of.
Speaker 2: Big movies in the MCU, I'm thinking I was actually MCU,
which is a bad answer. Avengers. I'm gonna say, not
Thunderbolts because apparently that's bombing. I'm gonna say Spider Man,
I'm gonna say thor that's what comes to mind for me. Okay,
I had to say, there's.
Speaker 1: Some good, good head head names on there. I will
give you full credit because you said the big A word,
which is Avengers, you know, big team collab ones. You
did mention Thunderbolts, which is kind of bombing right now,
the new Avengers, so give them some time, maybe maybe
the next movie.
Speaker 2: The Really that marketing campaign didn't work out for them,
well did it? Dropping the Thunderbolts and pasting the New
Avengers over over top?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you think that was always their plan like
going into it?
Speaker 2: I think so, because it happened really quick, so it's
not like they were like a box office bomb, let's
do this. I think that was always I think that.
You know, that's why they put the asterisk in the title.
I think is to get people wandering and then point
drop it. It didn't happen quicker than I expected, but
I guess if you don't have a big opening weekend,
you're done in this industry.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I pretty much give MCU a
pass on, like like maybe not day like one spoilers
on like here's this article on why all these characters
are are are dead now or you know, like like
something like that or or or like this, where like
at the poster New Avengers, I don't think it was
like next day, but like definitely by like the end
of the weekend, it seemed like it was already there. Yeah,
I feel like these MSU movies, they just have a
lot to be progressing a story forward, at least that's
how we would be hoping the story's going. And I
feel like I give them a pass on, Like, you
know what, if you didn't watch it right away, then
then that's on you. I don't know it's gonna say
something else, and then I just kind of lost my
train of thought there. So yeah, New Avengers with the asterisks,
I don't love the marketing what they did for that,
but it's very minor on the list of grievances I have.
But now I'm dancing around the topic. Here we got Avengers, Doomsday,
and Secret Wars. The big news here though, is that
it's delayed till December twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven.
Of course, first one being Doomsday. We're not getting Secret
Wars before Doomsday. Secret Wars will be the twenty twenty
seven Doomsday twenty twenty six. Do you think these these
these dates are sticking, dyl Muss, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think there's a good chance. So the what Doomsday six
month delay? I assume that Secret Wars also was in
that like May Ish slot and therefore also got like
a six to seven month delay to the December.
Speaker 1: I believe you're right, realm, I'm supposed to.
Speaker 2: Give it that like full year, which you know makes sense.
They did that for Infinity War and Endgame.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think those dates are sticking because I believe
it was just recently or maybe even at this current
moment they're filming it like right now. Who knows it,
Chris Hemsworth could be on set right now whipping out
the coolest line that we're gonna hear now in December
of next year. But yeah, I think that's where when
we initially knew that it was going into filming like
kind of around this time of year, it seemed like
a little bit bold to assume the movie is gonna
come out next year. We assume there's a lot of
a lot of visual effects that need to get going
on there, especially with the state of VFX in MCU stuff,
it's been a little rough lately, so I think this
delay makes a lot of sense, just gives a bit
more time for the production, also gives them time in
the event that they need to do reshoots, which has
also been very common lately. Hopefully we have to do
less of that because it seems like they're pretty set
on their team making this and the well, I don't
even know, the script kind of seems like it kind
of comes together pretty quick and changes a lot on
the fly too. So yeah, I think just for the
MCU machine, you know, the VVX, which takes a long time,
and then like possible reshoots, which seem both those two
things seem pretty common that they need a lot of
time for those things that I think this delay makes
a lot of sense. And I'm not even really assalts
about it. We're still getting in next year, so it's fine. Yeah,
So I think these delays, do you know, I G
and then the secret orizone just kind of comes in
result of that as well. I don't know when they'd
be filming that, but just to give it a bit
more of time to let Doomsday just sink in and
all that and people to see it before the next
one comes out. So yeah, I think these delays are
pretty unsurprising, I suppose, and I'm not too bummed about
them because it's not a huge delay. It's not like
Blade that just gets kicked in the Shadow realm continually. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that for sure. By the way,
anyone that's out there, I'm not some crazy Scooper, but
that's just my feeling. I don't think I'm ever gonna
seem hershawly Blade movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pretty cool take, you know. That's not
there's no hot take to be.
Speaker 1: Sure, it's possible cool like the ice cream in the freezer. Yeah,
so I did check. They were both seven months delayed, Yeah, respectively. Yeah,
I'm I'm with you here. The delay didn't really have
much effect on me, Like I felt so much more
pain at the first time I got the Dune Too delay.
And it wasn't just because I had that my movie
draft that year. It was just I was so excited
to get to get in there. It felt like we
had a long wait from the first one and then yeah,
I was just really bound to get that delay. What
was another one? Oh, the Batman? That was the other
one that that really uh, just just getting.
Speaker 2: Another one that keeps getting launched down that road. And ye,
like it's a bit more solid now, but still is
sad just because it feels a little less tangible. Where
is this still feels like within reach? I guess right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the initial shock of the Batman
stuff was it was hurting, and then once I like
found it a little bit more of like just well,
I don't I don't know detail wise, but just heard
it's like a personal health thing of the Matt Reeves
is going through, so kind of soft of the blow
is a little bit It's like, okay, yeah, get healthy,
focus on yourself. I'm gonna survive if I don't get
Batman too, although I do hope that I get it nonetheless,
but yeah, for for whatever reason, this one, I just
think because it's not like I just had like an
Infinity War type event where it's like a big cliffhanger,
like I can't wait to get to that next Avengers,
like like we're in a natural epoch change I'll call
it of the of the MCU realm of like the
New Avengers Crew and like this being kind of a
part one and a part two with Doomsday and the
Secret Wars like like that kind of feels like a
collective story. So I'm okay having a delay of both
of them as opposed to like I get the first
one and then the second one just gets delay or
has issues and some month delay. It also just maybe
allows them to to really smooth out some some rough
edges if they feel they need to or or whatever.
It's just more time to in my mind perfect the
content there. And yeah, hopefully that is the case. Hopefully
we're just blown away by it the December.
Speaker 2: You don't you don't think it's anything to do with
like wanting to slot another movie or show or whatever
before it in terms of like story setup. That didn't
even really cross my mind. I just think this is
more of a production side of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm completely with you there. Yeah, just just because
we haven't really like we don't have anything like known
that's set up to like be in that slot, and
it feels kind of weird if they just, oh, I
have a great idea to introduce this character and it
would be perfect if we just slaughtered them in like
that just seems like they're picking up so many random
pieces to put that like out there. So that's had it.
Speaker 2: Though, Like what if it is like Thunderbolts bombed that
was a big setup for you know, the next Avenger
is clearly because those people are all on the back
of the chairs, Like I don't know, maybe that maybe
that's considered of like, ah, we want to get something
out that's a little bit more hype leaving up as
a as a prequel as a preamble because you know,
Thunderbolts didn't reach enough people and maybe it'll blow up
on streaming. But even then, I don't think that's what
they want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean, if if you're right, I'm gonna
recall this date uh and uh and give you your
your your your just do on the tinfoil hat theory.
But no, I think it's just the production side of
things there, and in terms of the of the release
date like December for Avengers movie, I don't know, Like
that just feels odd to me. Obviously. I'm just conditioned
for like what Infinity or Endgame, where I believe those
were like spring releases or summer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm going back, and even the first two
Avengers are also in May, so that's bin this will
be the first time that yeah, they're not in May.
Speaker 1: It feels like such a more summer event as opposed
to like a holiday Christmas e roads are crazy cold,
just miserable, like that type of of uh sphere. But
maybe it's gonna maybe that's gonna be the vibe of
the movie. Doomsday isn't like, yeah, the thoughtful title, you know,
I'm expecting a lot of cannon fodder goingnabe be getting
chopped up by the Doomster that is rubber Downey Junior.
And uh yeah, And well.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Mandalorian movie that because that is
was supposed to be around Avengers, right, so that is
still in May. So maybe that's where the reasoning is
of Like, you know, obviously it's been a while since
we had a Star Wars movie, but those were often
coming out in that December slot, except for like Solo,
I think came out in May, right, But those were
like the big, the big winter Christmas movies, and so
I feel like maybe they're it's a Disney thing of
trying to fill that slot in in a way. So
maybe it's two things. One it gives more space for Mandalorian,
which is I think a huge help for them, but
then also still puts them in like a time when
they know they've crushed it with those trilogy movies that
absolutely destroyed at the box office.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, absolutely, and like even just like merchandising like
it always would succeed, but like get that leading up
to Christmas, like even just like because these you release
some stuff like that before the title even comes out.
I think it's going to be just prime for all
of that. But yeah, I believe there's there's many different
factors on why that is that window is that? But
I think you made a good point there. I'm just
for Disney like like wanting to have something in that slot,
and usually Star Wars type stuff isn't isn't that realm?
But we're really getting that in May? So yeah, what else?
Oh and then the other thing in that time period,
of course, is Dune three supposedly has the same release
date right now as Doomsday. The question that my little
note here is telling me is will that date change
for Dune for Dune three? The first time I read this,
I didn't really like, like I just quickly was looking
at the at the dates for Avengers and Dune and
I'm like, well, honestly, Doomsday could get moved also, But
like that was just my initial thoughts. Like now that
I've really stood on it, like it just makes sense
to have it in that time window for all the
reasons we've kind of already just listed, but I just
because of these big movies like Dune too, that was
a big delay that hurt me. Uh. And then I
believe that was pretty much around that December time, so
I don't think it was December. I think it might
have been November. The initial was done to release window
and then and then of course I got pushed back
to February. I hope I'm getting that right or I'm
just pulling dates out of my Dare year. But yeah,
I could easily see Done three moving and not even
just because it's trying to avoid Doomsday. I think that
is a wise decision to try and avoid it, because
like they're both just big goliath movies. Of course, we
see in the past the Barbon Hyber situation where it
can be mutually beneficial for those two typles like two
big movies released at the same time. But I just
think Dune is such a big piece of It's like
a it's it's like an artistical egg. It's an artisanal egg,
and they put great gear care and attention to detail
when it comes to that project, and I think that
they want to do it right. And wow, I'm in
a brain far here. Is Denise still a part of this?
Or is is he bowing out here?
Speaker 2: I think he's still in there, right, Yeah, still in there?
Speaker 1: Okay, I think so. Yeah, maybe some of the comments
gonna quickly google that after.
Speaker 2: I think the plan originally was he just wanted to
do two, but yeah, he's I think he's in the
third one.
Speaker 1: Now, okay, that's that's awesome for many reasons. But uh yeah,
just Dune two got a delay. I can easily see
Dune three. Detoll our guy in the chat here there
he goes confirmation and the chat guy in the chair
blame detoll not me. No, I'm not going to say that,
just to give you some other context. So we have
in December eleventh, of course, twenty twenty six next year.
Jumanji three is on the December eleventh, the week after
the eighteenth, that's when Dune Avengers, and then also Ice
Age six is in there, so I say six, you know,
different audience perhaps but still potentially risky. And then the
week after that, the twenty third is Shrek five, so.
Speaker 2: It's totally a busy month. But I feel like the
play for Dune is just moving up one week. You
go on the same weekend as Jumanji, or maybe even
the week before that, do two weeks earlier. It gives
you a bit more runway, separates you a bit either way.
I think, you know, a lot of people go and
see movies over Christmas break and stuff. A lot of
people have time for that stuff, So even if it
doesn't have a huge first weekend, it'll probably still have
like a good December all in all. But yeah, I
think that would maybe be the move. Just shift up
a week or two so not you know, it's actually
the opposite of delay technically, just but only by like
a tiny little bit, just to make it a better
release date. And I'm sure that they could still absolutely
do that with their production schedule, So I think that
would I think that's maybe the play for Dune, and
I think Avengers doesn't need to be as worried just
because it still has that big a name. You know,
if they called Thunderbolts new Avengers and it did the
same box offices it actually did, the Avenger's name would
lost a little loss it's luster. But I still think
this movie is gonna crush it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, absolutely, I think it's a pretty certified
be attached to I think both the movies, like, I
think that's kind of a safe given. But who knows.
Maybe people really don't give a fuck anymore about mc
It's been too long since the last Avengers, and they're like,
what the hell is the Avengers? This? This is nothing.
Robert Juniors on this, Chris Evans isn't in this. This
is garbage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there.
Speaker 1: For sevens. Yeah, okay, I feel like I didn't realize
how much juicy stuff is coming out in December. They're
like like, yeah, like they are kind of different audience ranges.
But like even Avengers, like I kind of see that
as a family movie, even though this one's gonna be
probably more serious and darker. I mean even Infinity War
is pretty dark compared to like other MCU stuff. Yeah, yeah,
pretty abysmal. I think by the end I can definitely
feel us or see us feeling very dour the end
of it. Kind of sure. I don't think they want
to just copy the same formula what they did for
inf your Or and Endgame. But I still think Doom
is gonna be uh, he's gonna be winning, I think
in that first project. But we'll see what happens. But yeah,
just like Shrek five, Ice Age six, like just a
lot of family movies in that month as well, Jumanji.
So yeah, families that already spent a lot of money
on Christmas gifts and stuff for their youngins. We'll see
if they're they're feeling. Uh. I was trying to say frugal,
but I'm like, that's the opposite of one of the.
Speaker 2: Way anti frugality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. I like that. That
sounds nice. And then in terms of like what you
said about the dune, like maybe moving ahead, I feel
like my my thoughts on like doone being delayed has
nothing to do with them just trying to avoid a date.
It's mostly well, it might be a small part of it,
but my initial thoughts is just something's gonna happen that
it just gets delayed on like like some crafting reason like, oh,
it's taken a little bit longer to finish up this
this project than we thought. But I have no like
references on why that would be. That's just my initial
thoughts here, and we'll see if I'm right come come December.
But we'll see, we will see cool. Well, with that
being said, some ah that was that was a rough
I might I might tweak that in the editing for
how rough of a transition that was.
Speaker 2: You're live on YouTube, you can hear version.
Speaker 1: It's like SNL sometimes you know, it's it's all live
and we just got to roll with the punches here.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we don't. The problem is different. We don't have
Q cards. We have notes, but we don't have QUE cards.
Speaker 1: No exactly. You'll never see me, you know, reading off
a screen like the Ron Burgundy question mark additives or
anything like that. But just all this talks of delays,
products being moved around, potentially getting room for other projects
or anything, or just making it make more sense for
where they're gonna be. A lion in the MCU story,
we got some spice stuff to talk about, and that
being could this trench I did it. I did the
wrong burgating thing, I said the telepropter. Oh my gosh,
oh my gosh. Okay, there we go. What impact will
this have on Spider Man brand New Day? Not a
great title?
Speaker 2: Will it move?
Speaker 1: Is this gonna give us extra content? I probably should
have read this before I started reading out loud. No
Way Home was supposed to come out after Multiverse of Madness,
but when that got delayed, the change stuff, and then
of course the character of America Chavez, who's kind of
just been in limbo. I was a fan of her
in Multiverse of Madness. I was kind of excited to
see what they're gonna do with that character, and she's
literally just been a ghost. I don't even like, did
she pop up in what If or anything? She wasn't
the character Ghosts by the way, So no, no, no,
different than that, confu. Yeah, not the Avenger Ghost. She's
the new Avenger Ghost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Uh yeah, I guess this is interesting. I
never heard about this before that. Apparently she was supposed
to be in that Spider Man movie. Then because of
a Multiverse a Menace delay, it didn't really make sense,
so they just cut her from that. Now, you know,
I don't know if like they had. You know, it's
not like I don't think she had been scheduled like
be on set for these three weeks or anything like
that was just like in the scripting stage at that point,
so they could just pivot, which I think they do
a lot in the MCU. Those those scripts are hot,
they're ready to ready to burn and ready to add pages. Yeah,
change pages, cut and paste, copy paste, pan zoom, all
that kind of stuff. They're ready to just shift it up.
But yeah, so I guess you know, good context here
that of course, with with Doom or keep I keep
saying just Doom, but with Avengers Doomsday being originally in May,
and then Spider Man was supposed to be kind of
the epilogy sort of thing in the way that we
had with or with Endgame specifically. Yeah, where it was
where it was like a yeah, it was May, and
then it was you know, Far from Home was like
in the July. So it was like that three months
after two months after period. That was kind of what
we had set up here as well, Right, Doomsday being
May and then Spider Man is gonna follow in July,
and then a lot of the rumors that we've been
hearing were that you know, all a lot of the uh,
some certain characters, like maybe in Robert Downey as as
Doom was gonna appear in that Spider Man movie, and
that would be kind of like an important thing for
the story to bridge the gap between those two movies.
And so with the delay of Doom's day but not
the delay of Spider Man, like, what does that mean
for that story? And I think they'll just kind of pivot,
you know, we'd have another rumor coming up here of
like another potential way the story could go. I think
they'll just pivot. I don't I don't think I Sony
might not even I don't know if Sony has a
say in that kind of thing, like no, you gotta
shoot this movie. Well we're gonna take the character. I
don't know how all that stuff works, but I think
Spider Man prints money. I don't think they're gonna delay.
I think they're gonna make it happen. Uh put on
the schedule. I don't know, like I think that I
just read that that's supposed to film in July, so
that would be the same like a one year turnaround time,
which I just said is not you know, gonna work
for Avengers, and that's why they did delay there. But
maybe that movie just being simpler or less characters, what's
going on, Maybe it's a easier on the VFX and
you know, less people for potential reshoots and all this
sort of stuff and scheduling. So who knows, maybe that
does get kicked and they continue with that, but I
think they'll probably want to keep that just because looking
at the schedule for MCU movies next year, like that
would be the only movie then Avengers in December. So
if they don't do that, then like they would, you know,
they want to have some movie in the middle of
the year. So I think they'll still keep Spider Man
there because if not, they're just the investors will be
pissed because there'll be no money going into their bank
accounts in that in that calendar year. So I think
Spider Man will stay and we'll just see a rework
of the script here and you know, yeah, if they're
not supposed to film until like July at some point,
that's not a long time to rewrite and stuff. But
you know, they've probably had a lot of this in
the works for a while and knew this delay was coming,
probably had backup plans in that event of that happening.
So I think that the Spider Man thing will stick
to its current release date or maybe get a slight
bump to August if they need a little extra time.
But I think it's I think it's stick in, even
if it was originally supposed to be a bit of
a bit of a bridge movie between the two Avengers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm right there with you in terms of
just it being where it's gonna be. H it is
any money printing machine Spidey. I mean, that's like one
of the other MCU films that made like a billion
dollars right in the scope of the mc with non
Avengers title. You know, there was triple the amount of
Spidey's in that movie. But still it is a Spidy project.
And yeah, printed the money really well there, And I
am I'll probably never find out. Well, actually that's a lie.
I feel like like lately we've been getting like the
initial script idea for this project right like and then
and that you can kind of like read what their
thoughts were or what they're planning on doing with certain characters,
or like the inclusion or that thereof characters, and like
the initial scope of what the movie's gonna be. But yeah,
like like what this initial thought of this movie like
when they when they had it structured, like how much
actually got shifted with just kind of kind of the
overall temperature of the MCU right now and what's happened
around the New Avengers being the Thunderbolts or maybe just
even some previous titles, because I do feel like, especially
in Phase four stuff, like there was a lot of
projects that were coming out, and it was just like,
why are we spending time on this like right now?
Like like I get it, like they announced the slate,
the Investor's Day or whatever or Disney Day, whatever it was,
and it's just like, these are the projects that are
coming out, and what it feels like a decade later,
it's like, hey, we're getting these projects now, and like
people just are very lukewarm on the MCU, let alone,
these like really niche characters that we have no idea
who they are, and it's just it's like, well, like,
why are we spending time on this when it seems
like like interest or other places in the MCU just
a random thought experiment I kind of had the other day.
But now we're talking about it kind of came to
light again, but just in terms of Spidey and how
much that like what they're going to be wanting to
include in here that is key for something like Avengers
dooms Day. And with all that being said, there there's
a seed plus tire Scooper that's supposedly said that Mark
Ruffalo is said to have a substantial role in Spider
Man Brand New Day. Of course, mack Ruffalo, Mark Ruffalo,
the Great and Powerful Hulk, who as we've last seen him,
he is still smart Hulk. I don't know if that's
like the proper Hulk.
Speaker 2: Wasn't he just regular guy at that point?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he wasn't green. Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2: Okay, he had his bracelet right and he could like
control it.
Speaker 1: I totally forgot about that. Yes, okay, good, good reminder there,
I'm glad to hear. So then, yeah, he's changed since
we've last seen him in like the Avengers or anything
like that, But yeah, if he has a substantial.
Speaker 2: The continuity of who Hulk has at different points in
the MCU has been such a mess. Obviously there was
the recast, but even just like every movie, he's had
some huge, huge, arc that we just didn't see that
happened off screen like such a you know, obviously there's
a rights issue, which is why they haven't been able
to do a solo movie, I guess. But yeah, it's
pretty funly funny when you look at it in retrospect.
So many other characters have a really clean arcs. His
is just like random scattershot every project. You don't know
which version you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: It's like you get the book from the library and
it's just missing like three pages and it's just like
I don't know what happened there, and now now he's
not the Hulk, I kind of want to know that
little little substance there, and who knows, maybe maybe we'd
get a little bit more context there. I feel like
in She Hulk, like, yeah, just just put it all
on the place. That's pretty easy. But in my mind,
it just seems like a lazy way to not have
to like cee gi this character. But who knows, maybe
that's not the actual reasoning. That's a little slight yeah,
but yeah no, but yeah, just thinking about a character
like that who is an original Avengers, like I feel
like he could have some like very obvious ties to
the Avengers event that's gonna be happening, and like, just
that we're getting the little like c plus to your
Scooper rumor for this now makes me think that that
wasn't always the plan to have that character in there.
And then maybe they're just trying to scope out the
plan on having a smooth entryway into into the Avengers
and uh maybe a character like that. I mean, Spidey's
also been in the Avengers, so like maybe that theory
is just kind of nothing. But I don't know, he
just seems because he is that og Avenger. I just
I just see it being a little bit too much
of a puzzle piece linking the two there. Maybe I'm
completely off to lunch there, but who knows. A couple
theories around the character. Oh sorry, do you want to
add anything? Do? I just said, okay, gotta make sure
you know, don't be don't be rude or anything. Cut
you off. Some of the theories are college professor or villain,
meaning wow, that's a weird way to read that. Um
for Mark Ruffalo's character, for Ruffles character of being a
college professor or villain, what the hell is going?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, okay, Oh my gosh, I just finish. I'm gonna
fish the sentence theories College Professor or mister Negative unlocks
Savage Hulk. So of course, mister Negative, you played PS
four Spider Man, great character in that game. I I'm
I'm itching to get a live action adaptation of that character.
I really want to see mister mister Negative himself on
the big screens because she's just like the CGI potential
around that character. It could be really bad, but I
have faith. I feel like what they've done lately for
like the big villains, they at least look really good,
and I think that could be really enticing there. But
I mean, if he somehow activates Savage Hulk to be
back to like his og self, does that like make
Mark Ruffle like a lot lesser of a like a
role in that movie?
Speaker 2: Hmmm? Yeah, I mean, once again, just how scattershot that
character has been in the MCNE It's like, yeah, sure,
why not let him do this kind of thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I wonder how the portrayal would be, or like what
his characterization would be, or if it's really more about
really just having that Hulk factor and be able to
put him on the poster and that being the selling
point more so than like Ruffalo as an actor doing
this cool performance. I think that that kind of sounds
like the direction this would go. Like, I don't know,
I think it would probably be more of a surprise
in the movie where Hulk just shows up on an
orange smashes a building, rather than like him is Spidey
and Ruffalo or like Tom hollands By, like walking down
the street whatever, and then like he gets transformed out
of nowhere, Like I think that would be my guess
would be the surprise, or like his introduction in the
movie would be as Hulk, and that's what we get,
and then maybe we get the resolution of it by
the end of the movie of course, where you know,
Spidey figures out how to how to cure him, how
to solve Save the Day, that kind of thing. But yeah,
we've seen something like this before. It's kind of like
Civil War and just like the Winter Soldier in general, right,
just someone using my control abilities to like make this
guy go against our heroes. So we've seen something like
that before. Obviously, it's like a different power level than
than the Winter Soldier, but you know, Spidey's a very
powerful character, so we could take something on like this.
But it's interesting to hear this rumor. I mean, one
the timing of it is interesting of like, okay, well,
Avengers got delayed, so maybe they're you know, back in
the shop working on what this new script is going
to look like and if this is an idea. And
then we talked about I think it was on a
Weekly Geek that me and you did where there was
that rumor at one point where there was in the
you know, one of the concepts for Brand New Day
was that it was going to be Hulk and then
Punisher also like it was going to be Spidey and
Punisher like taking down Hulk. So it seems like, okay,
maybe this was something that really was really had potential,
and they were considering the script or they were even
writing it parts of it that out line at the
very least, and then things changed. They you know, had
the Avengers timing, they decided to pivot, and now they're
unpivoting essentially and going back to this Hulk thing. So
whether that means Punisher is to follow and we get
that original storyline, or if it is something different and
we focus on Mister Negative all that stuff, we'll have
to wait and see, but you know, it's always useful
to think about these rumors and when different rumors line
up in certain ways and it's like, okay, is that
you know, is there a smoke? Is it where there's smoke,
there's fire situation, or is this just you know this
new Scooper Sea tears like, oh, I remember that rumor
for a few weeks ago. I'm going to like recirculate
that one, but I'm gonna copy the homework but like
change it a little bit. So you know, we'll have
to wait and see. But I think it's a I
think it's a fun idea. It's an interesting concept. And
you know, for me, always like in terms of superhero
stuff just all time, I feel like it's like Batman, Superman, Spidy,
and Hulk are like the four characters that just fucking
crush it on merch. Kids even today still have like
T shirts of these characters and there's so ubiquitous and
you put them on a poster, that's gonna be a
big deal. It's gonna make a lot of money. And
so I think putting the two MCU characters out of
that FORMN equation that I just mentioned and put Spidey
and Hulk on a poster next to each other. That
would crush it. That would like people would go see that,
people would be excited for that. I think that would
be really exciting for kids as well. I think it's
just like a fun thing for them. But also you know,
for us hardcore fans like, okay, cool, we have interesting
story dynamic here. So uh yeah, I think it's a
decent concept and I'm open to it. I don't think
it's my maybe top request for a Spider Man thing,
but I just because, once again, I think the Mark
Ruffalo of it all is like, man, this Bruce Banner
character has gotten such a messy arc and it seems
like a really messy direction to go with him. But
maybe it's well done. Maybe it could be done in
a cool way. And if it gets me Punisher in
Spidery movie, then fucking sign me up. I'm man, I
want that.
Speaker 1: You think he's calling him green like he calls Daredevil red.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it really reduces them down to like the
most essential self.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to hear just hear John Burtholes like
in that dynamic with with you got like the raging
Hulk and then just Tom Hollins spider Man whenever right.
Speaker 2: This is weird connection in my brain. Whenever I think
of John Pertolo saying I read, I think of that
scene in I Am Legend when he's like, what the
hell you doing out here? Friend? Like for some reason,
it's like the same intonation in my mind. I always
hear that when I when I think of Punisher yelling red.
Speaker 1: It's good little footnote to remind uh yeah, but uh yeah,
I mean in term, I really liked what you said
about just the observation of like the shattershopness of what
is Bruce Banner in the mc U. I I really
like the Smart Hulk for how it was used like
in the Avengers movie. I thought it was fantastic. But
I definitely think it's it's ran its course. And uh sorry.
Speaker 2: Go on, go on, I said say that again.
Speaker 1: You know the class Okay, yes, yes, you're you're meming me.
Uh but you know, I I I think it's kind
of ran its course. If it just like keeps, I
don't know, I I I think it would just be
a little bit overdone now and especially that like the
scope of time that's past since we've had Savage Hulk
it like it's as if we've had more Smart Hulk
that we've had Savage Hulk in the whole scope of
the MCU, right like when you look at it, like
the whole scale. I'm not saying like individual projects, sure,
but like just just amount of time that's that's happened.
Maybe it's maybe it's tough to say that because there
has been media.
Speaker 2: On another angle I just thought of. Here is like
actually one thing that kind of immediately I just talked
about how I'm into this idea. I'm open to it,
but I think one thing that makes it less exciting
is like we just had Red Hulk like going off
and popping off right, and so like, I don't know
if we get like another guy who's like, you know,
not thinking straight and you know, different motivations here, whether
it's the Red Hulk situation, I guess it's like kind
of like leader, it's just you just switch them out
for uh, mister negative or whoever is doing that in
the Marvel in the fucking spier Man movie. So many
names and characters, So I don't know. I yeah, maybe
it is a bit too close for something we just got.
And I don't think that this would mean it's a
recipe for failure and the way that Brave New World
was not very successful. But you know, Brand New Day,
Brave New World. These are very similar titles, so maybe
they just copy each other's script too, who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm curious what's gonna be happening with
Red Hulk, Like how much how much of a like
a hibernation that character is going to be making, And
I I don't know if we'll really be seeing like
Harrison Ford again locked up right now, right he is
locked up right now. I think we'll definitely see Red
Red Heilk Red Hulk no matter what. But I don't know,
it's it's a tougher cell that.
Speaker 2: You think we'll get him no matter what.
Speaker 1: I think. So I I think maybe I'm just like force,
what's the I'm manifesting it in the universe because part
of me is like I want to see Green versus Red.
I want to see Savage Hulk versus fucking Red Hulk,
like like that's just like the little little kid in
me that just wants to see big batties, uh beating
each other up on.
Speaker 2: Them, picturing them in a ring like we had in
thor Ragnarok in that arena, but like the guy who
the announcer is just Punisher left corner, Red in the
right corner.
Speaker 1: Girl, it's just like his burnt all scream and he
just jumps in the ring too, starts fighting both of them. Ye,
such a savage Yeah, I mean, like the probability of
it is way lesser than the want that that. Like
I said, like, that's just my what I'm trying to
force out there. But I don't know. It just seems
like a iconic character that even if like a good
amount of time passes, I do think we'll see Red
Hulk again. But yeah, I mean, let's talk again. In
a decade, we're getting ready for GB twenty. Let's let's
let's let's circle back if we haven't seen Red Hulk
by then.
Speaker 2: But sure, yeah, I'll pizza bet you if you want.
Really I think Red hulks, I don't. I think Red
Hulk's gone. We're not seeing Red ever in this. We
need an expiry date on I'll say, like until the
MCU reboots, like until Damsey was dead and we like
get it starting from scratch. I'll say there's no more
Red Hulk with the exception of like, okay, what if, well,
what it's done? Now, I guess that's not even on
the table. It's all pizza bet. You know Red Hulk
every again, we don't see him.
Speaker 1: I will take that bet, And okay, I probably shouldn't
because I just came off a really horrific loss. That's
uh my defeater. You know, he took the high ground
and didn't accept the pizza. But uh, I will take
that bet for you because I yeah, I I think
it's a lower chance of it happening, but like still,
there's something in me that that makes.
Speaker 2: Me think that movie eight dirt at the bottle office,
I don't think they care. Yeah, they don't look at
Harrison Ford anymore. That bombed, and neither like this guy.
He doesn't sell tickets anymore. We don't need this guy.
Speaker 1: But I never said Harrison Ford. I just said Red Hulk.
Speaker 2: Right, what are you gonna do recast Harrison Ford?
Speaker 1: No, you're just gonna have Red Hulk in a movie.
It's gonna be like when Abomination.
Speaker 2: But you need likeness, you need his body. You know,
Harrison Ford's doing the mocap for Red Hulk.
Speaker 1: No, he's not, Okay, that's not a part of the
Pizza beg.
Speaker 2: I'm okay, yeah, I'm still good to say no Red
Hul because I think they would still want to use
his his likeness and like you know, you have to
like pay him for that. I guess I don't know
how that works. Okay, So no, no, no, I'm saying by
the MCU reboot.
Speaker 1: That's what I was writ Okay, okay, yes, that's my Okay,
I'll take it.
Speaker 2: I'll take someone put that in the discord, Pizza bet,
I'm saying no Red Hulk before the MCU dies says
he's coming back six to seven times.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear people's thoughts on this in the
discord and otherwise because a feeling they'll be more aligned
with you. But well, we'll see what happens. I don't
really know what else to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of everything with this, right, Yeah,
I guess it might be my last quick note here
would be Yeah, mister negative, I want to see that
character as well. I think they could go a lot
of different directions. I've still really seen that one iteration
in the Spider Man game, and I think you could
go a lot of different directions with it, other than
of course a great Marvel snap where he's an iconic
character in there as well. But yeah, I definitely want
to see that character at some point. But I also
think it doesn't need to be mister Negative that sets
up the storyline. There could be any number of bad
guys who you know, unlock Savage Hulk, bring justin hammer back.
Maybe he found a way to do it, Like, I
think there's a lot of different ways we could get it.
So I think this this, I could see this this
happening even without mister Negative.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, did you ever play Spider Man two?
Speaker 2: I still have not play Spider Man two. I'm waiting
for like a nice juicy sale on it, which maybe
we'll finally get when I saw PlayStations having a sale
summer sale wherever they call.
Speaker 1: It, that's very fair. I'm not gonna say anything then,
just for your own enjoyment of that story. But yeah,
there's a great game.
Speaker 2: I've seen some spoilers. But anyway, Okay, there's is a
Savage Hulk in the games.
Speaker 1: I you're telling me, Yeah, that's That's where I'm gonna
win the fizza bit because he's in it.
Speaker 2: There you spoil that I didn't hear that he's not.
Speaker 1: In there, or that's a spoilering of itself by denying that,
So I won't say anything there, Okay, temperature check Spiderman
brand new Day. I mean, I know you're just gonna
be excited for when the movie comes out, like I am,
because we just love Spidy.
Speaker 2: Who do you think I am? I'm a soulless fan
boy here who just likes everything I'm see you, Huh,
I'm critical. I'm critical, but.
Speaker 1: When it comes to Spidy though, I feel like you're
more positive when it comes to that, like like maybe
not positive, like I'm gonna pass it no matter what,
but like that pushes the height meter. I think, just
knowing that we're getting close to a spiky project? Am
I correct on that? I mean, you never watched Spider Man.
Speaker 2: Actually I did watch it, but I didn't watch it live.
I waited. I didn't need to see it immediately.
Speaker 1: You're such a fan you got in there eventually.
Speaker 2: I did, and I loved it so well, yeah, yes,
I'm a spider but also I didn't play Spider Man two.
I didn't have a PS five when it came out,
so there's you know, but you do asterix on these things.
There's thunderbolts, asterix on these bad Boys. But I am
a spider boy. But you're your question my general temperature
on Brand New Day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know you're maybe not a fan
of the title, but just just everything that we've heard,
I think, and like, it's no, nothing super concrete other
than like some solid castings, the Sadie Sinc. Inclusion, just sinkster,
all of these factors. Just a little temperature check. Here
we are May twenty twenty five, twenty seventh, nine oh
five Pacific Standard time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, much like Bruce Banner, we've gotten all
manner of rumors for this bad Boy that it could
be so many different directions. So I'd say I'm kind
of mid mid lowish right now, just until we finally
get something feels a little bit more concrete. I mean,
I guess the sink thing is pretty concrete, but like
we still don't even know her character, right, so it's
like I don't know what direction they're taking it. So
I'd say I'm kind of mid lower right now, but
once we finally get some more actual details, a little
bit more casting information, I think that'll shoot shoot right
up there. I don't think it'll match No Way Home,
just because how do you have matched No Way Home
unless you bring those boys back? But I think you know,
as excited as I was for Afar from Home or
or a Homecoming, which I was I was. I was
excited for those movies. Okay, are you about the same? Oh,
you're probably a little bit higher, maybe.
Speaker 1: Sounds I think I'm medium. I think I'm like a
fresh right in the middle p h seven. Like you
know that it's nothing too exciting, but like that's what
you want, you know, at this stage, I don't want
to be too acidic. I don't want to be too
Oh god, what's the other basic? Basic? Yeah? I'm yeah,
maybe I'm more basic.
Speaker 2: What a range? You know? Basic and acidic?
Speaker 1: Crazy shouts out too.
Speaker 2: What is the name of the stick that you put
in the thing to determine whether it is basic?
Speaker 1: I don't even know it was basic? You think I
know what the fucking stick's called.
Speaker 2: Come on, it's like a thermometer.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the temperature checker of basic or acidic. That's
probably the scientific name. I'm trying to buy some time
while you do some I don't have to sufficiently. Yeah, yeah,
talk to text. It's a it's the acidic acidity. You can. Okay,
we're moving on. We're gonna close this chapter on the
MCU stuff. We're gonna head to an ad break and
be back to talk about a universe that I don't
know what to call it, so we will figure out
a name when we're back. All right, we're back. I
still don't know what to call this other than catching fire.
Is that the that's the title of a movie, not
necessarily the title of ice series? Okay, Hunger Games? Is
that what you're talking about? Is that what the series is?
Speaker 2: Called the Hunger Game Series?
Speaker 1: I thought it had like how Game of Thrones has
like a song of ice and fire, like that is
the title of the book series.
Speaker 2: Are you saying you didn't know this was called the
Hunger Game Series.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I thought I had a different name.
I thought it was like the I mean, it has
so many stupid.
Speaker 2: Well, the last one is called The Ballad of like
Snowbirds and Alf.
Speaker 1: And to me, that's like a series title. That's not
the name of a movie like that. That is that?
Is this? That is the name of a collection of
books like this is the Ballad of Songbirds and whatever
calling it. It's just such a mouthful.
Speaker 2: It's called the Hunger Game series, though I can can
confirm Yeah, okay, thank you, even if not every movie
involves a hunger game. Yeah, you know, because I don't
think all of them do, right, Like, not all of
them have the ring where everyone's duking it out right.
The later ones don't, right because they're just like a
collapse of society. It's just cat and its like, yeah,
sniping guards out in like the real world. I've not
seen those ones. I've only seen the first two, so you.
Speaker 1: Haven't seen the back ones. They're really bad. Yeah, sol
sold I'll not selling you on that one. That's that's
basic one.
Speaker 2: Are they bad because there's no hunger game in them?
Or are they bad for other reasons?
Speaker 1: Really bad? The second one, all right, that's what we
were saying. The second last one, I think I think
it's one of those feelers where it's like.
Speaker 2: That was called raising fire something. What was that one called?
You said it earlier?
Speaker 1: What did I call it? Catching fire? There?
Speaker 2: Catching fire?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's what it's called, though. I
think that's the second movie is called Catching Fire. I
think it was Hunger Games. One of them is called
Catching Fire, Catching Fire, and then it's like to Kill
a mocking Bird or something like that.
Speaker 2: No, you're thinking mocking j there you go. Oh, you're right.
Speaker 1: Part one kills to kill a mocking bird. That's what
like the epilogue should have been called when they finally
get rid of that mocking j That is Catnus Everdeen.
But no, I wasn't a fan of them. I felt
like the penultimate movie it felt like how definitely Hollows
Part one is where it's like, this is probably a
much better book than a movie adaptation, just a lot
of set up, a lot of like politicking and conversing.
And I hated it. I I really really. It was
a hard one to get through, and I don't ever
plan on rewatching that ever, even even the last one.
I will rewatch Hunger Games. I like that movie, but
it's it's like you watched the o G. The og
in full would have been when I did that marathon
of like finishing them all because I just hadn't seen
the last two, but I threw it on. Honestly, it's
probably after Extra Life. I like get home and I
don't want to sleep all throughout the day because we
just were up for twenty five this last year, this
last years ago. Yeah, oh wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Recently I watched Hunger Games most recently. They did not
hold up for me. Okay, the first one. So everything
about it or just aged no, just like you know, cinematography, acting, action,
pretty much everything actually not about it, pretty much everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't really give it much justice too,
because I threw it on after an extra life streams
and I probably crashed like instantly.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we you're delirious at that point.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one hundred percent, just thinking about all the
things that we've been just screaming into the mica all
night in the wee hours of the day. But if
you're listening to this and you're wondering what the fuck
we're going off about Hunger Games is, we got some
juice to unravel here, and specifically casting juice around the
title of the Hunger Games sun on the Reaping.
Speaker 2: Which is Sunrise on the Reaping.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes, my notemaker did not spell that right.
Speaker 2: So the Q card, whoever wrote the que card, there's
no one to blame here. Some intern who wrote.
Speaker 1: The que card and he will not be back that intern. Yes,
so Hunger Games, Sunrise on the Reaping, which is a
title that I despise. I did not like the last
title either, Ballad of Songbirds and to Kill a mocking
Jay whatever the full title was, Part three or whatever.
Did you see that last one?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't either. Yeah, I didn't really have any
Not many people did. I don't think intrigue for some
people did because Taylor liked it. I think it's a
safe assumption. Yeah, okay, I think it's a safe assumption here.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have much skin in the game when
it comes to the series anymore. If you like, after
that binge of the whole series, I'm like, yeah, okay,
this is it. I'm I don't think I'm gonna see
out the books or anything like that, but I was
kind of interested by by this list here of familiar
faces that we got the Q card maker. Oh, I
missed a Patreon question, So I'm gonna I'm gonna just
address this right now. This was in the mco realm
the Great Dalton, who I apologize, Dalton, You've been in
this episode with us and I missed your Patreon question,
which is, do you guys think we're getting Savage Hulk,
Professor Hulk, or just Bruce Banner.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Yeah, I would say Professor Hulk long dead.
You know, we could throw a funeral and everything. He's
long gone. I think we are gonna get Savage Hulk
for ninety percent of the movie, and then you'll get
Ruffalo at the end, uh, when he's been cured. I
don't think you'll get him early on in the movie either.
I think he's just he is Hulky, is the villain.
Then you save him at the end of the movie.
That's my that's my prediction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would tend to agree with you there.
I liked your setup of like when we were talking
about how like maybe the first time we see him
is like just Savage Hulk and and like you don't
really get what like how we got to that point,
and then they fill in the cracks a little bit later.
But I think I'll differ from you in the sense
of that we'll get Bruce Banner at the end. I
think it'll just kind of be Savage Hulk with maybe
like a moment of Bruce Banner, but by the end
of the film. I don't think it'll be back to
Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner. I think it'll be the Savage
Hulk that we that we know and fear and love.
So yeah, there you go. Go to Patreon to address
questions that we will not forget about, like I almost
did today. So shut said to you, Dalton, thank you
for a question. The Hunger Games and the sun Rise
on the Reaping. Yeah, we got some juicy faces on
this list. I recognized all but three on here. What
about you?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm probably half and half maybe a.
Speaker 1: Little half as little half ers, Yeah, I mean because
I'm not like super fond of the franchise in general,
Like I feel like it's for me. It's like, Okay,
that's a great actor in this movie more so than
like that's a perfect casting for this character for this reason,
for you know, portrayals that I've seen them do by
different characters, and I can see them take that same
finesse into the role. Like I definitely don't feel that
at all. I think part of that is also just
because I I've seen it. I've seen the whole series
other than the prequel, but like still, yeah, I don't
have a lot of attachment or like fondness for these
certain characters, but it's cool in there. I think the
big one is, of course, the Plemster, the Jesse Plemmons, I,
you know, recipes a great powerful Philip Seymour Hoffman. I
feel like Jesse plus Plemens to me is like a
distant re relative of his and my mind, it's probably
not true, but I just see to those two characters
they can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very visually and also visually they got it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think they definitely have some same energy. And I
think Plemmons has such range that I think he'll be
able to capture Hoffman's performance there. So I think that's excellent.
It's funny when I was looking at this and a
lot of them are like, okay, like Philip super Hawfin,
like I think he's close to the same age as
Withody Harrelson, But then like the two people cast in
this prequel are like this seemingly like significantly different ages.
Like it seems like this guy playing Woody Harrelson's character
is like in his early twenties. And then I think
this came up recently as well with with Plemons, that
he seems a lot older than he actually is. So
maybe that's counter argument to myself right there. But some
of these ages seem like very off for me, at
least in terms of a just like at a glance.
But maybe, yeah, maybe they're way age differently. I don't
actually know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a great point. I feel like,
like in Hollywood and movies, like just like human makeup
can do such a good job, but just masking like
the age of the actual actor, making them look way
younger or way older. That's happened a lot in the
past with certain casting. So I'm not too worried about that.
I mean, it would be odd if you had like
a youngster playing Snoke. That's not his name, that's the
Star Wars guy goes to show how much I know
of the series, but snow the rafines casting character. So yeah, and.
Speaker 2: I'll kind of throw one at you because there's a
character here. There's a character by the name of Wirius
played by Amanda Plumber in Catching Fire, which I have
not seen Amanda Plumber of pulp fiction fame. Right, so
my hawk is playing that that version, So can you
tell me about that? Like, is Myahawk a good is
she can be able to portray that because I don't
really know the name Wirius makes me think this character
very wiry do that? Yeah, I guess she kind of can.
She played in anxiety in Inside Out too and did
a great job of that, so I maybe maybe that work.
But yeah, what do you think from actually someone who's
seen catching fire? Do you think that's a good good
casting other than Maya just being an outstanding actress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think it is. I I don't
like know too much in deep of the character just
from what I've seen, and I feel like it's it's
a role that Mayahaw can definitely uh fiell the shoes of. Yeah,
she's she's a great actress. I can definitely see her
like just being like a wiry character. But more so
I feel like she can also just capture a younger
version of that same character. Uh just just with what Yeah,
I don't know, just my initial thoughts I guess of it. There,
Like to me, wires was like a very like like
I don't want to say nothing character, but like she
is a very side character in the overall story. So
I'm I'm I'm just interested and I don't know that's
a weird way to say that because I I'll say
I'm interested in seeing what they do with the with
like the early stage of that character. But I probably
won't even see this unless I hear like really phenomenal things,
So like my interest level isn't that high, But who knows.
Like I I think with the last one, it had
some familiar faces for sure, and the casting I believe
Hunter Schaeffer was in there, so I was excited to
see her in that, but like I never even ended
up seeing it, So like I'm kind of just I'm
blowing smoke, I think with that. But at least for
this casting list, there's a lot more familiar faces that
when I see them in things, I tell myself that
I want to see more of them. So am I
kind of lying to myself if I don't seek this out?
Because you know this is this is a great list,
Like even el Fanning's in there, McCaulay Culkin's Yeah, what's
mcaulay culkin's brother's name. He just wanted to.
Speaker 2: Kieran Oscar, Oh my god, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, best supporting And I want to double check that
because I'm an Oscar follower.
Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure he got it for a TV show,
So he didn't get an Oscar, but he got whatever
the equivalent is for TV Golden Globe.
Speaker 1: Did Okay, did you follow the Oscars like you know
for sure he didn't.
Speaker 2: Well, he got it for Succession and that's not a movie.
So that's so. I don't think he won an Oscar.
Speaker 1: He won Best Supporting Actor Oscar for real pain. Oh
he actually won for that as well, Best Supporting Actor. Yeah,
because didn't he had like a Golden Globe last year too.
That's actually crazy, right, what a run? Eh?
Speaker 2: Holy shit, I did not realize that. Wow, you blew
my mind right there. I thought I thought I caught
you in a in a snag there, but oh my god,
you snagged me right back. That's crazy. I still want
to pry repeat that one. Yeah, seriously, I've been meaning
to see that movie. I didn't realize he won an Oscar.
That's absolutely insane behavior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's the Eisenberg direct one, right. Yeah, so
I don't know. I didn't have much interested. Like I
heard he was really good. I don't follow the Oscars
or anything. I just I think I just saw it
on like a feed I'm like, wow, look at that.
Kieran Culkin had a boy, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Had a boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No.
Speaker 2: That was the one that that stood out to me
here as well, because since you know, he was on
succession for a few years there building up his resume,
people like, goddamn, this guy's actually crazy good actor. I've
been excited to see, like what he does when he
dips into the movie. I'm obviously freaking crush an oscar
So's he's messing up or just just popping off. But
I was really curious to see what his first role
would be in like a big franchise thing, you know,
like I was considered casting him in our like in
our comic book, comic book draft and all that kind
of stuff before. Uh, And so, I mean, I'm a
little bummed that this is like the franchise that he
chose to go for when I feel like, how haught
he is right now. He could have not said as
any character, but could have hopped into any franchise, and
you know he still can. Obviously it doesn't walk him out,
but it means he might be busy with this. If
they make a sequel to this prequel. I don't know
if he'd be tied up from ALTI projects, and since
I'm just not really that interested in this, it's a
bit of a bummer, but yeah, hopefully crushes it. I
don't know the character very well that he's playing, but
that character is in that original Hunger Games, right the
I forget what his role is, but oh he's the
game's host, right, So I think I think he'll eat
up that role. I think he's able to chew that
scenery in a really fun way. So I think that's
a that's a really fun casting. That was definitely probably
the highlight for me out of these. Out of the.
Speaker 1: Bunch, yeah, I was definitely on the like, if i'd
do like a top five of interest that I have
for these, I think it's in there. I like probably
Scott Pilgrim is like the only thing I've seen him
in maybe maybe like maybe there's some some offshoot thing
that I've seen him in there, but the extent of
like the Oscar Rain or Golden Globe Rain, you know,
like that tier of the actor, but like just the
idea of Also the character that he's playing is like
very and like over the top with like the ridiculous
like fake teeth and just the makeup and everything. So
just to just to put them in that role is
going to be interesting. And like you said, just just
see him kind of I don't know, to take it
by the reins and chewing up the scenery and doing
all that, It's going to be enticing. Yeah. The other
big one for me is the Ray Fines casting of Snow.
It's interesting because like, I don't really see an i
apologist because I don't remember the actor that played the
original Snow. I should pull that up. But I like
they look very different to me, like like like I
think they're both great actors, but I just see them
being a different type of actor, even though like it's
an older gentleman that has like a very powerful presence
to them when they speak, But like it's still a
different category in my mind when I think of the
two of them. Yeah, so I'm going to be interested.
And again I keep saying this, Maybe I have to
say this now that I keep saying it. I am
interested in seeing the version of it because Ray finds
is someone and that I feel like i'd like whenever
i'd seen him in something. Is it Chindler's List? Is
that that really famous one that he's in.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that.
Speaker 1: Question to throw to you, but uh, yeah, I like I.
Speaker 2: He was in Harry Potter, I can tell you that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's fantastic. Like I feel like I always
appreciate him without knowing how much I appreciate him, and
then watching something like The Menu that I I didn't
even really care for that movie, but I thought he
just uplifted the materials so well, like like without him
in that role, he like, I think it's just such
a lesser movie. And he just has that that powerful
presence and someone like President snow should have that right
like he should command that uh that just attention, and
I think Rafe can can definitely yeah, just fit that
that caliber. Bar. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like back in the day when
we were in like peak high school days there, uh
it was Harry Potter and was Hunger Games that were
just all a buzz and that kind of young adult
film category right where it's like just the y A
category of those two things were just absolutely crushing it.
They were taking over the role everyone was talking about
those that was everything. And so the fact that he's
like gonna be now in this as well, so crossing
over across these two franchises that were just so big
in that point in time. I think it's a it's
kind of funny, kind of funny to see that he's
just hitting up all these all these big franchises that
kind of hit up that same niche So, yeah, he's
he's done it before, he'll do it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he absolutely will.
Speaker 2: Any other ones you wanted to shout out, yeah, I
get I guess I'll just mention them. But I don't
know if I really have much to say. But Lily
Taylor is playing Megs. We got Ben Wang playing Wyatt Callo.
I think we've kind of mentioned all the other ones here.
There's a couple of smaller ones people not really I guess.
Do you know this guy Joseph Zada who's playing Hate
mentally playing Woody Harrelson's character. Have you seen this guy before?
Speaker 1: No? I didn't. Yeah, that one was. I just I
feel like, because Hamich is a big character from like
when we jump into Hunger Games, even I'm expecting like
a lot of juice around that character, and the fact
that like I just don't know who this actor is.
I'm like, Okay, this is a potential MCU cast or
you know, Superhero draft character, depending on how it goes. Yeah,
just just because I haven't really seen.
Speaker 2: His He's been in four Things nice, four things career,
so he's yeah, he's he's fresh, he's a newcomer, so
that's kind of a bold choice. But maybe he's maybe
he's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Brad Pitt was once an unknown, right
and look at him now it's Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to start somewhere, just a huge franchise
year ago, exactly.
Speaker 1: Right on any fell thoughts. What's your temperature check on
Sunrise of the Reaping? And oh, I'm.
Speaker 2: Talking like negative fifty three, Calvin or something like, it's
all looking good over here.
Speaker 1: It was minus fifty five for me. And now that
we've kind of gone through some of these casting it's
like miyus fifteen, So jumped quite a bit, but still
pretty low.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Harry Potter, Detoll did ask in the in
the chat or do you what do you think of
the new Harry Potter casting. I saw that that was
announced today, but I haven't actually seen who any of
the people were. Did you get it?
Speaker 1: I'll do a little screen share here for you so
you can you can do a live reaction. Oh terrible image,
like not zoomed in at all.
Speaker 2: Zoom in, I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm doing so down zoom there you go.
Speaker 2: All right, So we got three three babies?
Speaker 1: Three babies? Yeah, do you know you hate it?
Speaker 2: I don't know any of his babies? Is that is?
That is? There? Is there more people or just these
three kids?
Speaker 1: There might be more. This is the only three I saw,
so I was just gonna, okay, it's on my teleprompter.
Speaker 2: So they look like they're best of friends already, so
it's good. They looked the part. That guy's got red hair,
so come on, we're good to go.
Speaker 1: I love it. That was basically everything I was gonna say.
I'm like, yeah, they look like kids.
Speaker 2: They like. These actors are so good they can portray kid.
Speaker 1: I think the one in the middle is gonna be Harry.
One of the right might be Ron, one of the
left might be her Miam. Do you think so unless
you feel them bold and really changing things up? Maybe
Harry is the one on the far right. Who knows, Yeah,
I think that'd be cool. Yeah, yeah, maybe it's Harry
mayaee Potter. And then the one on the left is
actually gonna be Harry depending how much change. Yeh, yeah,
I mean they yeah, they look like kids. They fit
the age for what these characters should be. Uh, obviously
they've never seen them in anything before and wish them
nothing but the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good good for them. This is they're gonna make
They're gonna be fucking billionaires by the time they're twenty one,
so you know, yeah, good good for them.
Speaker 1: And like I really have not paid attention into like
the discussions online or anything people's thoughts. Like I quickly
saw some things in the discord. It's I mean sounds
like sounds like some people are pretty indifferent how we are,
and like just just people that are like getting upset
over this stuff. It's just like, what the fuck did
you want? Like, like, seriously, did you want a clone
of Daniel Radcliffe in here? Like I don't at all.
I want to see a new up and cover actor
or actress and like see what they can do, and
like just have them on the radar and be like, damn,
this actor or actress is phenomenal for young actor, maybe
even better than what the originals were, because I think
that could absolutely happen at least like the performance wise.
Speaker 2: I don't think back of those early movies. I mean
there's some iffy acting from those from those oh yeah characters.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. It's like kind of become a meme
now when I rewatch them with just like how goofy
some of the reactions are. But uh yeah, oh look
at this. We got the rare Patreon Tyler appearance like therapist.
Speaker 2: Ye from them.
Speaker 1: I hope they have some therapist line up for these
kids to get the most undeserved hate. Well, said sir.
That's what I was trying to say, is like just
grown ass men that are just raging and like pissed
off and trying to like I don't know for sure,
but like they're probably signing petitions to get these these
people recast because there's just people out there that are
like that, which is crazy. I think they have probably
mental health issues and way too much time on their hand,
but like, fuck man, it's happening, get with it. It's
it's it's ridiculous. Did you do not throw undeserved hate
to youth actors when they are of the life. Yeah, yeah,
you know, we'll judge the project when he comes out.
That's what we'll tear them apart on the review.
Speaker 2: We're legally obliged to tear them apart.
Speaker 1: But for right now, yeah, absolutely, let's let's just be
happy for them. This is the role of the lifetime
for them. And I'm sure they've seen Harry Potter. Maybe not,
they're so young. Maybe they have an seen Harry Potter.
Speaker 2: But I don't think do kids like Harry Potter anymore?
Or they move on?
Speaker 1: That's a great question. It would be a question like that.
Speaker 2: Road blocks and bluie. I don't know what else they like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they like I think you caught it. I think
that's all that.
Speaker 2: Nephew likes playing with trains, but nice, that's about it.
Speaker 1: My nephews.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know anything about Harry Potter. Probably into trains
as well, big in a hockey yeah, but not Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. I'll ask him. I'm seeing him
this summer, so that's the first thing I'll last and
they probably won't know anything. I'm talking about. My sister's
a massive Harry Potter fan, though, so maybe she's indoctrinating
them into the Harry Potter. Yeah, is your sister Harry
Potter fan?
Speaker 2: Uh? I don't think I don't think. She probably hasn't
seen it since, like she was in grade ten or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is your nephew Sheldon? He is actually detold,
do you know, my little my little nephew. No, I'm kidding.
That is not his name. He's not Sheldon. I imagine you're
talking about the Big Bang theory. Sheldon?
Speaker 2: Is he in trains? Is that?
Speaker 1: I don't know, never seen, never seen little Sheldon that show.
Speaker 2: I was into trains. You were probably into trains too, right.
Speaker 1: Kirkle Absolutely, Thomas think engine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a right of passage. You have to be
into trains.
Speaker 1: And something is did you ever like have like the
Thomas the train like set. I never did. Oh you did?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so? Maybe I had that. I don't know.
Money is firmly lower middle class. I lived in Rotland, Okay,
you're in the literati of West Colowna.
Speaker 1: Or I grew up in a trailer park. Okay, come on,
that's that's different tier. It was a nice trailer park,
but still I grew up in that trailer park.
Speaker 2: Seven r vs stitched together. It's just like a mansion
of trailer park.
Speaker 1: The human Santa Pee trailer Park. That's that's whole equivalent. Yeah, no,
that sounds horrible. No, that's I wish I could take
that back. Maybe I feel bad for.
Speaker 2: Kids who were like existed before trains were invented, because
like they couldn't be into trains.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what they do? Would they do? Like carriages?
Speaker 2: They were into like dirt? I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's one thing that never ends. Kids are still into dirt,
you know, they like to it's on it's oh man,
the stock of dirt is just it's up there. It's
I've been investing in a big time after COVID, you know,
after COVID happened, Dirt's on the rise.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: People want to get on the dirt. They want to
ground themselves. That's actually a trend.
Speaker 2: Remember on the side, Coach, you were talking about digging
ditches and stuff. Yeah, I think yeah, it's gonna be
a big thing.
Speaker 1: All Right, we're calling it here.
Speaker 2: We need to get out of here.
Speaker 1: Episode.
Speaker 2: What happens?
Speaker 1: We do two back to back, you know, just us episodes.
But it's been fun. Thanks for joining me. Thank you
Detour Pylo in the chat. We appreciate you and you
listeners out there. We appreciate you have a wonderful rest
of your day, rest of your week, rest of your
May and uh until next time we will see you there.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,