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Speaker 2: Fifty five krc the talk station A six here at
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Speaker 2: Brie time. As pleased as he can be, and I
Speaker 2: hope you're pleased too. I know that Corey Bowman is
Speaker 2: in studio staring at him face to face to talk
Speaker 2: about his race for the mayor city of Cincinnati as
Speaker 2: a Republican. Every time I say that out loud, there's
Speaker 2: a Republican running for a mayor in the city of
Speaker 2: Cincinnati named Corey Bowman, is like, yeah, Okay, we know
Speaker 2: you got a little bit of an uphill challenge, but
Speaker 2: maybe not as much as I think people's initial reaction
Speaker 2: might be. Corey, welcome back, man. It's great seeing you. Hey,
Speaker 2: great cn you thanks for having me my pleasure. I
Speaker 2: let's start with the debate. I have in my notes
Speaker 2: that it looks like you are scheduled to have a
Speaker 2: debate with Purval next week.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, as far as what we've been told is that
Speaker 4: all three candidates have agreed to do the debate March
Speaker 4: twenty fifth, we're just waiting on the terms right now.
Speaker 4: So if anybody from the Inquirer is listening, you know,
Speaker 4: they said that they were going to have it to
Speaker 4: us last week and so we would greatly appreciate those terms.
Speaker 2: And I know you want it to be streamed live,
Speaker 2: and this day and age, I can't think of a
Speaker 2: single justifiable reason why it wouldn't be streamed live.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the biggest thing about this campaign has to be transparency,
Speaker 4: you know, getting the word out on what all three
Speaker 4: candidates represent and then letting people have.
Speaker 2: The choice, well, will this debate be open to the public.
Speaker 4: That's what we're being told.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so one of the terms that you don't
Speaker 2: quite know, but at least it's been initially told. Anything
Speaker 2: else along the terms of conditions, lines that got you
Speaker 2: concerned or that you're insisting on, that might be interesting.
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is the transparency of the
Speaker 4: live streaming, just making sure that people are able to attend,
Speaker 4: people can hear all the sides of it, and then
Speaker 4: what are the terms of the questioning and how that
Speaker 4: how that format's going to.
Speaker 2: Go and it will be conducted by the Inquirer staff.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm being told.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is my first rodeo with it, but it's
Speaker 4: not my first first rodeo with dealing with people.
Speaker 2: So at the same time, your ministry is it requires
Speaker 2: you to be involved with people all of the time.
Speaker 2: And what's on the campaign trail, you've been out meeting people,
Speaker 2: and of course the owner of a business, you meet
Speaker 2: people all the time. So it shouldn't be too much
Speaker 2: of a struggle. Do you know if you're gonna get
Speaker 2: the questions ahead of time? Are they going to provide
Speaker 2: advanced questions or are you just gonna fly by your
Speaker 2: seat of your pants?
Speaker 5: Not for sure.
Speaker 4: These are things that Yeah, that's basically what we're being told, right.
Speaker 6: You know which day of the week it is next week,
Speaker 6: as far as we're told, March twenty fifth. All right, well,
Speaker 6: I got my popcorn out. I'm looking to see how
Speaker 6: you did. How you do because I think everybody can
Speaker 6: admit out of the mold of like a Gavin Newsom,
Speaker 6: you know, I have to have purvol is a pretty
Speaker 6: polished guy. He comes across as a really slick and
Speaker 6: I think perhaps too slick, just like Gavin Newsom. You know,
Speaker 6: you just like, wait a second, it's just not something right,
Speaker 6: And at least that's my impression. Apologies that you met
Speaker 6: have to have purple. You can make all the fun
Speaker 6: you want of them, how I look.
Speaker 4: But well, no, if he is, let's see, I met
Speaker 4: him for the first time several to go oh really yeah,
Speaker 4: it was a very very nice conversation. The funny thing
Speaker 4: was is that I was walking to meet mister Brad
Speaker 4: or Colonel Brad's wind strip, getting great advice from him.
Speaker 4: He's a great man. And so on the way there,
Speaker 4: Mayor Aftab was coming down the stairs and so I
Speaker 4: was just like, yeah, of course I want to meet him.
Speaker 4: And then this young guy came up to me and said, hey,
Speaker 4: can you take a picture of me with Mayor Aftab?
Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, for sure. So I'm sitting
Speaker 4: there holding the camera taking a picture. But then as
Speaker 4: soon as as soon as that interaction is done, I
Speaker 4: shake Mayor Aftab's hand. I just said, you did an
Speaker 4: amazing job speaking tonight, and it's just very kind man.
Speaker 3: So good.
Speaker 6: See.
Speaker 2: I like your reaction, like your attitude an animosity zone.
Speaker 2: But see, but that's that's your nature. And again, going
Speaker 2: back to your being a minister, I would expect that
Speaker 2: from you, you know, what I mean.
Speaker 4: Well, what I tell people is like he is a
Speaker 4: husband and a father and he's in public service. I
Speaker 4: would assume that people get in public service to help people.
Speaker 4: A base scullable but base. What I'm seeing over the
Speaker 4: last four years, I just feel like we're the better
Speaker 4: candidate good.
Speaker 2: And a lot of reasons for that. And your number
Speaker 2: one policy pillar, that's Coreybowman dot com. Bowm An, Coreybowman
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Speaker 2: might encourage my listeners to pay you throw five, ten bucks,
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Speaker 2: adds up. Get some signed, get some merch and getever
Speaker 2: you can get the name and spread the word responsible
Speaker 2: money management. We could go on for ours about the
Speaker 2: irresponsible nature of governments, generally speaking, most notably the city
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati. I've been so enlightened by the work of
Speaker 2: Todd zenz Or, former Inspector General. He watches them like
Speaker 2: a hawk, and he has revealed so much craziness in
Speaker 2: terms of where we spend our money. And I can
Speaker 2: go back to the streetcar, which costs US five plus
Speaker 2: million dollars a year for debt service as well as
Speaker 2: maintenance rarely used. I don't think it serves society a
Speaker 2: benefit at all, But there's that there's the deteriorating roads
Speaker 2: that we all face all the time. In fact, west
Speaker 2: Side Jim Kiefer Corey came into are called up today
Speaker 2: and said he's going to invite or has invited the
Speaker 2: mayor and all of the council members to an event
Speaker 2: that's being held up at Price Hill, Chile. So they
Speaker 2: have to take Sunset Avenue and drive over it. It's
Speaker 2: my favorite tea, Sunset is it's my best illustration of
Speaker 2: a street that looks like it's been torn out of
Speaker 2: a war torn area like Gaza or something, and it's
Speaker 2: never been fixed and it's been years and years. Forced
Speaker 2: them to drive over it, which will be a great idea,
Speaker 2: but it just is an illustration of infrastructure falling a hard.
Speaker 2: They don't take care of what they've got. They want
Speaker 2: to build something new, like the skateboard park.
Speaker 4: Your response, Yeah, well, I think that Whenever I first
Speaker 4: started the campaign, I was asking people what were the
Speaker 4: most important issues that you have on your heart when
Speaker 4: it comes to the city of Cincinnati, And there's a
Speaker 4: lot of you know, hot topic issues. There's a lot
Speaker 4: of things that people care about, but I'll tell you
Speaker 4: that the majority of them. As I looked at them
Speaker 4: and as I kind of research, I realized that, you know,
Speaker 4: eighty ninety percent of these issues are related to money management.
Speaker 4: When we talk about the infrastructure. See, when it comes
Speaker 4: to money management and budgeting, nobody has a perfect model necessarily,
Speaker 4: But I will say that the most important thing with
Speaker 4: money management is your priorities. What is going to be
Speaker 4: your priorities, and then whenever those priorities are lining up
Speaker 4: to common sense and helping the people, and then no
Speaker 4: matter what, Yeah, there might be certain issues that you
Speaker 4: want to push like, but those things can't take a
Speaker 4: precedent or can't be first above infrastructure and roads and
Speaker 4: things that really that's what the city is responsible for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I go back to the broken windows concept.
Speaker 2: If you take care of something and it looks pleasing visually,
Speaker 2: it looks welcoming and accommodating, people are going to want
Speaker 2: to go there or perhaps consider it for business. I mean,
Speaker 2: you chose one of the more difficult neighborhoods to start
Speaker 2: your business over in the West End, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: and you've bettered that neighborhood by providing you know, jobs
Speaker 2: in at least a place where people get a good
Speaker 2: cup of coffee. But it was challenging for you when
Speaker 2: you did that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I have a co owner that
Speaker 4: you know, whenever he came and visited, he saw the
Speaker 4: mission of our church that's also in the West End
Speaker 4: as well, and we saw the community. And basically, you know,
Speaker 4: when you have the mentality like we have, it's you
Speaker 4: go to the places that need help. You don't just
Speaker 4: go to the places that all we're going to obviously
Speaker 4: it's going to be an easy ride there. No, we
Speaker 4: have a mission on our heart to impact the city.
Speaker 4: And when you see the people that are suffering the most,
Speaker 4: that's where you have to do something about it, whether
Speaker 4: it be with church, whether it be with ministry or business,
Speaker 4: whatever it might be.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's got to be music to many neighborhood's
Speaker 2: ears who are often completely overlooked. I mean, the West
Speaker 2: Side is one of them. It's like as if the
Speaker 2: council doesn't even know there is anything exists beyond the
Speaker 2: bridge that needs to be replaced with the viaduct, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: well that's where that's where the entire city stops.
Speaker 5: It is right there.
Speaker 2: It's like you go over the edge of the of
Speaker 2: the flat earth.
Speaker 4: Well, what I see is that when people first come
Speaker 4: into Cincinnati, obviously there's certain areas that they visit, and
Speaker 4: on the surface, you know, Cincinnati is a great city.
Speaker 4: I'm not here saying that Cincinnati as a hellhole and
Speaker 4: we're just coming in and fix everything. There's a reason
Speaker 4: why me and my family live here, because I really
Speaker 4: believe it's the greatest city on earth. But what I
Speaker 4: feel is that there's many communities that have just been
Speaker 4: forgotten about or not been prioritized just because it doesn't
Speaker 4: fit the Instagram model of our city. It doesn't fit
Speaker 4: the social media model of our city. Oh well, we've
Speaker 4: got to make everything look a certain way. We've got
Speaker 4: to make people believe that we stand for certain issues.
Speaker 4: But yet there's people on the outskirts that there's people
Speaker 4: that are in other districts that are being forgotten about.
Speaker 2: With that question, you know, how is it that Findlay
Speaker 2: Market and that surrounding area got gentrified and had all
Speaker 2: that money put into it to the exclusion of all
Speaker 2: of the other options that are out there in the world.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's some really deteriorating neighborhoods that have some
Speaker 2: amazing houses, an ability to rehab and go in and
Speaker 2: you know, if you make it a more welcoming environment
Speaker 2: for business and for that type of project to happen,
Speaker 2: maybe it will and maybe those neighborhoods could be improved
Speaker 2: as well. Coreybowman dot Com. We'll continue with him. We
Speaker 2: got in for the full hour here. I want to
Speaker 2: run some speaking of financial things, Todd Zenza did some
Speaker 2: number crunching. I just want to propose a couple of
Speaker 2: ideas from that work. It's eight fifteen right now, be
Speaker 2: right back after these.
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Speaker 2: Enchoir article does answer some of the questions about the
Speaker 2: Bowman debate, which will include a mayrafta provol and challengers
Speaker 2: plural Corey Bowman and Brian Frank. March twenty fifth. It's
Speaker 2: open to the public, it is free. It's going to
Speaker 2: be held the Covedale Center for the Performing Arts at
Speaker 2: forty nine to ninety Glenway Avenue, beginning at seven pm.
Speaker 2: Provide an opportunity for residents to engage directly with the
Speaker 2: candidates ahead of early voting, which takes place April eighth,
Speaker 2: and then the May sixth, the primary Enchoir Opinion editor
Speaker 2: Kevin Aldridge will be moderating the debate. So still no
Speaker 2: answer to the question about live streaming. But there's the
Speaker 2: details and you can find those on my blog page
Speaker 2: at fifty five carosee dot com and of course this
Speaker 2: conversation on the podcast page when I'm done talking with
Speaker 2: Corey Bowman, who is in studio again, going back to
Speaker 2: Corey Bowman dot com and keeping in with the financial conversation.
Speaker 2: And I love the work that Todd Zenzer does because
Speaker 2: he stays on these guys like White on Rice. Budget
Speaker 2: Finance Committee held a meeting on the seventeenth. Several items
Speaker 2: tabled in the agenda, but they included two proposed bond
Speaker 2: ordinances which will authorize the City of Cincinnati borrow notice
Speaker 2: the sound of my voice thirty five million dollars. Five
Speaker 2: and a half of it goes to the OTR Center
Speaker 2: Health Center project, the other twenty nine for something called
Speaker 2: the Finley Community Center Project. And I have no concept
Speaker 2: of what those are. And he asked some simple questions, Corey,
Speaker 2: what due diligence was carried out, What are the terms
Speaker 2: of specific of the bonds. There's nothing in there to
Speaker 2: explain what the interest rate is, what do you need?
Speaker 2: Why do you need to issue bonds? He points out properly,
Speaker 2: the city took in nineteen million dollars more in revenues
Speaker 2: than was budgeted only a few months from the end
Speaker 2: of the fiscal year. Last year, the city had sixty
Speaker 2: five million dollars surplus. And he points out something logical
Speaker 2: that no one really takes into account. The debt service
Speaker 2: on the bond will cost the city millions of dollars
Speaker 2: over time, So why are we borrowing money? And more fundamentally, Corey,
Speaker 2: and here's something that you, as a mayor, would have
Speaker 2: to ride herd over and insist on before these kind
Speaker 2: of proposals come on your in front of you. Todd
Speaker 2: points out the comprehensive financial statement report for fiscal year
Speaker 2: twenty four hasn't even been published yet. He says, before
Speaker 2: you vote on such a sizable bond issue, shouldn't you
Speaker 2: understand the current financial condition of the city, for which
Speaker 2: the financial statement audit will greatly help?
Speaker 5: Simple point, and that makes profound sense.
Speaker 4: No, you're exactly true. I think the one of the
Speaker 4: biggest things that you're saying there is that the report
Speaker 4: hasn't been released from last year, and you made the
Speaker 4: point right there. You have to know where you are
Speaker 4: before you can know where you're going. And I think
Speaker 4: that I just use the example of like I mean,
Speaker 4: if you don't know you know where you are financially
Speaker 4: and you just keep on purchasing by now on Amazon,
Speaker 4: then you're just digging yourself more in a hole. And
Speaker 4: many people just assume that we can just do this
Speaker 4: or do that, but no, and I think that's the
Speaker 4: biggest thing when these issues come out, like let's say,
Speaker 4: you know, let's put a new arena in, let's do
Speaker 4: this or that, which are things that we agree with,
Speaker 4: but you have to know where the heck are we
Speaker 4: financially and do we have the ability to just set
Speaker 4: a good foundation to where the decisions that we make
Speaker 4: going forward are actually going to improve us economically.
Speaker 2: Like planning ahead for a rainy day. If you think
Speaker 2: we need a new arena, and I know that, you know,
Speaker 2: I still call it the coliseum because I'm old school,
Speaker 2: and I remember when the Cincinnati Stingers used to play
Speaker 2: back way back when we had hockey, but seen many
Speaker 2: a concert there. But Okay, so it's old, it's out
Speaker 2: of date. It could use some upgrades, or it could
Speaker 2: be torn down in something rebuilt elsewhere or there. I
Speaker 2: don't care. But it's going to cost a lot of money.
Speaker 2: We all know that, so we don't have it. Now,
Speaker 2: put a plan in place and start saving for it.
Speaker 2: We have a reserve fund. It's something where you can
Speaker 2: at least allocate the funds and over time see them
Speaker 2: grow and build. Don't spend it on shiny new objects,
Speaker 2: but still take care of the stuff you're responsible for doing,
Speaker 2: and say, look, we've already got it on the list
Speaker 2: of things we plan on doing. We're just not going
Speaker 2: to dig ourselves into a multi million dollar financial hole
Speaker 2: for decades to come servicing bonds when we have lived
Speaker 2: without a new one for a long time and I
Speaker 2: don't know that anybody's gotten hurt because of it. No,
Speaker 2: it's all about priorities. It's all about priorities. We're talking
Speaker 2: about years that we've been sold as a city to
Speaker 2: sell a railroad and to be able to put funds
Speaker 2: toward infrastructure, and then all of a sudden you're seeing
Speaker 2: that a year later where they're holding it because you
Speaker 2: can't just put one point six billion dollars into like
Speaker 2: a money market bank account, right, You've got to have someplace.
Speaker 2: So I understand the concept of putting the funds in
Speaker 2: a place that's going to yield return, so that doesn't depreciate.
Speaker 2: But the reality of it is that from what we're seeing,
Speaker 2: and you had Adam Kohler on earlier, and you can
Speaker 2: see the stats on this, is that we're seeing maybe
Speaker 2: a one percent yield on it, but the inflation of
Speaker 2: the cost of this infrastructure keeps on going up and
Speaker 2: up and up, So essentially you're losing money every year
Speaker 2: that you don't put it into the infrastructure. A great point,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad you brought down back up because Adam
Speaker 2: Adam was just very very pointed as analysis about that
Speaker 2: it now costs double the amount to fix the road
Speaker 2: that it did like just a year or so ago
Speaker 2: because the materials cost of increase. Yeah, and that's a
Speaker 2: regularly occurring phenomenon, and that just shows it's not a priority.
Speaker 2: It just shows that it's not a priority on your list,
Speaker 2: that there's other things that you would rather spend money
Speaker 2: on or focus on rather than just going right from
Speaker 2: day one and just saying, let's fix the damn roads.
Speaker 5: Yeah, amen to that.
Speaker 2: All right, it's paused a little bit early in this break,
Speaker 2: and we'll continue with Corey Bowman for a couple more segments.
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Speaker 2: It's a Happy Friday. Corey Boma dot com. It'shere you
Speaker 2: find mayoral candidate Corey Bowman's website. Opportunity to help out
Speaker 2: the campaign and his UH seven policy pillars, which were
Speaker 2: kind of walking through right now. This year briefly got
Speaker 2: a practical housing approach. We have talked about this before, Corey,
Speaker 2: and you know I mean on the face of the
Speaker 2: simple economic rout that there's a low supplying demand. Some
Speaker 2: neighborhoods already more demand than others. Those obviously have higher
Speaker 2: home prices, and if you can't afford those, that presents
Speaker 2: an opportunity for maybe some of these other neighborhoods with
Speaker 2: more affordable housing to turn around. I remember, and it's
Speaker 2: turned around a lot over the last several decades. Norwood
Speaker 2: was sort of one of those lesser desired communities, but
Speaker 2: you know, it's blown up. I mean, you're right next
Speaker 2: to Hyde Park, which was always expensive. You got openly
Speaker 2: right there. But nor has become a desirable place to live,
Speaker 2: and I think the housing has gone up some in price,
Speaker 2: so we might guess anyway, But there are other neighborhoods
Speaker 2: out there who are that seem to be ripe and
Speaker 2: ready for that type of transformation.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think a big issue with what we're dealing with
Speaker 4: in downtown in the West End area is that you're
Speaker 4: not utilizing some of the best resources in the city,
Speaker 4: and that's your local developers. There's local developers, you know,
Speaker 4: builders and investors that might only be able to do
Speaker 4: one or two properties at a time, but what we've
Speaker 4: seen in a lot of these communities is that you'll
Speaker 4: have an initial influx of investors or people that want
Speaker 4: invest in the community. They want to put market rate housing,
Speaker 4: they want to put everything there. But then after a
Speaker 4: while they start getting hindered or they start getting choked
Speaker 4: out by the policies that be because it doesn't match
Speaker 4: up with the zoning. And what we're seeing specifically in
Speaker 4: the West End is a huge disparity between the low
Speaker 4: income government subsidized housing and high income. I believe the
Speaker 4: current statistics right now is that we're over eighty percent
Speaker 4: government subsidized housing in the West End. And so when
Speaker 4: you see that, there's no really ground for that middle class,
Speaker 4: that middle ground, and you're actually hindering everybody that's in
Speaker 4: that affordable housing because they have no option to get
Speaker 4: out of it.
Speaker 2: Right well, And I think there is a in many
Speaker 2: cases well deserved reputation that if you don't own your
Speaker 2: property and you are in a subsidized residence, regardless of circumstance,
Speaker 2: that you don't tend to take care of it, and
Speaker 2: neighborhoods can deteriorate.
Speaker 5: And I understand how that can happen.
Speaker 2: It's not my place, And I'm not going to paint
Speaker 2: the walls, I'm not going to fix the floors, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to do the plumbing. I got to wait
Speaker 2: for some perhaps absentee landlord come in and deal with that.
Speaker 2: And most like the city of City's infrastructure, the place
Speaker 2: starts deteriorating over time and devaluing the existing homes that
Speaker 2: are in the neighborhood. So it's a it's a vicious
Speaker 2: downward spiral. You know, we've had a problem with absentee
Speaker 2: landlords in the city forever.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And when I mean when I say like local developers,
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about like people that come in from
Speaker 4: ol state or out of the country.
Speaker 1: To do it rehab.
Speaker 4: But yeah, there's so many people that are wanting to
Speaker 4: do this. Case in point is people that own our
Speaker 4: coffee shop building like that is just an amazing building
Speaker 4: that has residents of young people that live in the city,
Speaker 4: that work in the city, And for the most part,
Speaker 4: it's they're getting a market rate. They're getting a fair
Speaker 4: value on their whether it be rent or whether the utilities,
Speaker 4: whatever that might be, and they're getting a chance to
Speaker 4: kind of live in the city and to be able
Speaker 4: to contribute to the city in that way. And then
Speaker 4: but if you, like I said, if you have eighty
Speaker 4: percent or above in affordable housing, even if you say
Speaker 4: that there's some people that don't take care of their residents, wherever,
Speaker 4: when you have that as the majority, there is no
Speaker 4: way that they're going to get out of that system.
Speaker 4: There's no way at all.
Speaker 2: And of course I am certain even though it's affordable
Speaker 2: housing under whatever definition you want to use, that the
Speaker 2: property taxes probably still went up along with everybody else
Speaker 2: taking available some of income to maybe put a cut
Speaker 2: of paint on that.
Speaker 4: And you're exactly right on the supply and demand too,
Speaker 4: like a lot of the policies or the zoning restrictions
Speaker 4: are hindering these properties from becoming livable residents. And so
Speaker 4: if we just free up the policies and just say, hey,
Speaker 4: let's let people build, let's let people flood the market
Speaker 4: with housing, the crisis might not even be there if
Speaker 4: you actually have housing available for people and let people
Speaker 4: decide for themselves rather than having this overlord of oh, no,
Speaker 4: we can only have these buildings the way that we want,
Speaker 4: because this is our vision for the city. No, it's
Speaker 4: for the residents of Cincinnati to dictate that.
Speaker 2: I agree completely on that, And I want to ask
Speaker 2: you real quick, because I'm thinking along the lines of transportation.
Speaker 2: Is there a lack of public transportation in that particular area?
Speaker 2: I mean, would it benefit from more frequent metro stops
Speaker 2: and that kind of thing to help people try and
Speaker 2: get back and forth to their jobs or whatever they
Speaker 2: need to.
Speaker 4: Be in that area. You have a very significant, you know,
Speaker 4: bus route that goes down Lynn Street, and so you
Speaker 4: have stops every stop. You have it from the Metro,
Speaker 4: from the city, you know, public transportation, and so you
Speaker 4: see it there and then people are able to kind
Speaker 4: of get buy through that.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: You know, there's obviously, I think better ways that you
Speaker 4: can structure the roads or structure the parking or anything
Speaker 4: like that as well. But for the most part, people
Speaker 4: can get to Lynn Street in our area fairly quickly
Speaker 4: to get on a bus route.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, so you just put in a plug
Speaker 2: for your community. Look, we've got good transportation, public transportation.
Speaker 2: It's readily available for us. Yeah, come on in the
Speaker 2: water's fine. What do you think I mean, keep it
Speaker 2: with West cent foury Park Company there for this segment
Speaker 2: what in your estimation does it I mean we talked
Speaker 2: about housing, of course, but any what else do you
Speaker 2: think it needs. I mean, if there was a if
Speaker 2: you you were an investor and you were considering the
Speaker 2: West End, and you had an unlimited plate of things
Speaker 2: that you might want to build or create or businesses,
Speaker 2: what do you think it's in need of that might
Speaker 2: bring about some greater success for the community.
Speaker 4: Well, I think the model of our building is actually
Speaker 4: fairly successful. Is that you have a space underneath that
Speaker 4: can be zoned for a business, and then you have
Speaker 4: let's say four or five units above that can be
Speaker 4: rented out to residents that live in the city, that
Speaker 4: want to work in the city, that want to thrive
Speaker 4: in the city. And so there's so many properties in
Speaker 4: the West End like that, like that, but they're sitting vacant.
Speaker 4: I personally know a building that I talked to the investor.
Speaker 4: He's put one point two million dollars into this property
Speaker 4: and they haven't done one thing to the building because
Speaker 4: it's all about cutting red tape and trying to figure
Speaker 4: out where they can get it zoned at, and it's
Speaker 4: negotiating with the powers that be that own it to
Speaker 4: try to figure out whether it matches with their vision
Speaker 4: of the community. And I'm telling you that happens so
Speaker 4: much throughout our cities where you have investors, you have
Speaker 4: people that want this business, that want businesses to thrive,
Speaker 4: that want the community to thrive, and they're being held
Speaker 4: back businesses like local markets are a grocery store or
Speaker 4: anything like that. And you can make the argument that all, well,
Speaker 4: it's not a good community to put those businesses in. No,
Speaker 4: Like I'm a case in point. I know that it
Speaker 4: might not be the best community to put the business in,
Speaker 4: but you put in. And there's a video that actually
Speaker 4: released just two months ago from a major you know,
Speaker 4: podcaster that visited the West End and they were interviewing
Speaker 4: people and the people specifically said this Bay Miller block
Speaker 4: right here was where all the I did.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but yeah, you can't spell out first words either.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and don't do that. At the debate with Road,
Speaker 2: just try to help you a lot. Say I'm not
Speaker 2: the one that wrote the rules. I don't make them up.
Speaker 2: I don't even just write them down. I just got
Speaker 2: to I apologize for that. So anyhow, that's okay, But
Speaker 2: people will do it and want to do it. It's
Speaker 2: if you build it, they will come. You're confident about that.
Speaker 2: But there are powers that be that are standing in
Speaker 2: the way with all these rules and regulations because whatever rule,
Speaker 2: whatever mindset they have what the community should look like
Speaker 2: in their mind doesn't fit with the business.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the block that we're in they called the
Speaker 4: Bay Miller Block, and there was a lot of stuff
Speaker 4: that went down there, and they said, if you came
Speaker 4: here ten years ago versus now, it's unrecognizable because this
Speaker 4: isn't where the stuff goes down anymore. This isn't where
Speaker 4: the crime goes down anymore. And it's because there was
Speaker 4: developers that got in early and that developed town homes
Speaker 4: or businesses there and then us you know, having the
Speaker 4: coffee shop there, and so it's not like the most
Speaker 4: you know, filled up block as far as businesses go.
Speaker 5: But it's like the broken windows it exactly. You don't
Speaker 5: have broken windows.
Speaker 2: You got businesses that are in operation, and the bad
Speaker 2: guys don't hang out there anymore. They moved a few
Speaker 2: blocks down the road. Continue with Corey Bowman after these
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Speaker 2: Smithman on Monday with this smith Event. Former vice mayor
Speaker 2: of the City of Cincinne, a man who wants to
Speaker 2: be mayor of the City of Sinceney sitting in my
Speaker 2: studio Corey Bowen Coreybowman dot com. You can check out
Speaker 2: his agenda items help him out, donate to his campaign
Speaker 2: and participate in the events and again. The Enquirer debate
Speaker 2: is next week twenty fifth. We've taking place at Covedale
Speaker 2: Center for Performing Arts on Glenway Avenue beginning at seven pm.
Speaker 2: It's a free event open to the public. You two
Speaker 2: see what our contrasts. I have to have provoll with
Speaker 2: Corey Bowman and also Brian Frank So show up to that.
Speaker 2: We're gonna helpe it live streams. We're trying to Corey's
Speaker 2: been trying to find out if that is okay. I mean,
Speaker 2: if that if that's something that was one of his
Speaker 2: terms that he'd liked to have as a live feed,
Speaker 2: so no one can.
Speaker 5: Sort of edit it after the fact, Corey, something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just exactly. It's continuing the transparency, all right. I
Speaker 2: know you're a fan of the Eastern Saint Police Department. Yes,
Speaker 2: you're not a detractor, You're not a defund the police
Speaker 2: kind of guy, and I would expect that you would,
Speaker 2: in a role as mayor be an outspoken supporter of
Speaker 2: them and regularly bring it to the public's attention what
Speaker 2: they're doing. Because what always bothers me, Even if they're
Speaker 2: not actively opposing police like they used to be doing
Speaker 2: on counsel, they're not out there supporting the police either,
Speaker 2: and there is you know, the violence on that is deafening.
Speaker 2: I think the police, from a morale standpoint, would like
Speaker 2: to hear the elected officials support them. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: putting money where the mouth is and rather than doing this,
Speaker 2: I don't know, what is that program where they have
Speaker 2: non police officers responding to what three to one one
Speaker 2: calls or nine to one one calls, and I think
Speaker 2: those resources should be more allocated to the police department,
Speaker 2: and that sprung from the defund the police effort too,
Speaker 2: if I recall correctly, Corey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So when we talk about the police department, I just,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of grew up just knowing that they're
Speaker 4: there to protect and serve obviously, and yes there's issues
Speaker 4: that you might see with certain individuals, but overall they're
Speaker 4: there for the community. And we have a coffee shop.
Speaker 4: We have police officers coming into our shop regularly. We
Speaker 4: speak with them, and before I knew a lot about
Speaker 4: these issues, I would just have these conversations and I
Speaker 4: would just realize that there is this disparity between the
Speaker 4: city support versus you know, what the police officers actually
Speaker 4: do and the training that goes behind it and their
Speaker 4: lives being on the line. This is something that we
Speaker 4: have to set as This is the culture that we
Speaker 4: have in city Hall, is that we support the police Department,
Speaker 4: that we support our officers and the fire department that
Speaker 4: lay their lives down for our citizens. And then through that,
Speaker 4: whether it be with funding and whether it be through
Speaker 4: policies that put that into their hands rather than just
Speaker 4: trying to divide this into all this is what the
Speaker 4: community looks like, you know, non emergency you know responders
Speaker 4: that they're really on your side. But if there is
Speaker 4: an emergency, then we send out these people that aren't
Speaker 4: really on your side.
Speaker 1: That can't be No.
Speaker 2: It can't and say, well, what's the big deal. What
Speaker 2: the council says good things about the police or not.
Speaker 2: It serves to facilitate a better relationship with between people
Speaker 2: who otherwise might want to cooperate with the police department,
Speaker 2: might be afraid to cooperate with the police department, and
Speaker 2: yet nonetheless want to have a police presence to keep
Speaker 2: the bad guys out of their neighborhood. It's like an
Speaker 2: irreconciliable position. Yeah, you want us, they hate us. You
Speaker 2: want us there, but you won't drop a dime on
Speaker 2: the bad guy that you know committed the crime. You
Speaker 2: won't show us where the hidden gun is. That's the
Speaker 2: multi use gun.
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 2: If this council would engage and be more proactive with
Speaker 2: that kind of positive discussion, maybe more people out of
Speaker 2: the various communities would put down this mindset the police,
Speaker 2: bad police, evil police, racist. Ignore that mantra that has
Speaker 2: been preached by so many of these non governmental outside
Speaker 2: organizations and race baiters and help serve their own community better. No.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, if you want to see safe streets, I'm telling
Speaker 4: you this right now. The people that live in these neighborhoods,
Speaker 4: they want to see safe streets. They want to see
Speaker 4: the police actively involved in picking up the crime in
Speaker 4: their communities. They're actually begging for it. But a lot
Speaker 4: of these police officers, I'll tell you this, the morale
Speaker 4: for the police officers are very low as well, because
Speaker 4: even if they do arrest, you know what's coming. Then
Speaker 4: what happens is that you have judges and people on
Speaker 4: the post end of it that are going to or
Speaker 4: not eliminate, but they're going to release these people. Shoulderstein's
Speaker 4: one of those exact CEM offenders. And I'm telling you
Speaker 4: I heard that directly from their mouths. That's not a
Speaker 4: talking point that I'm just copying pasting from a policy.
Speaker 4: That is, as I'm talking with individuals that are in
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Police Force that have been on there for thirteen, fifteen,
Speaker 4: seventeen years, they're saying that there's a morale that's lowering
Speaker 4: in their police department because they're like, why are we
Speaker 4: going to arrest people? If they're just going to be
Speaker 4: released on the street right after, it's not worth the paperwork.
Speaker 4: I mean, I understand that all day long. I mean,
Speaker 4: what's the point. And then it's much like California when
Speaker 4: they decriminalize shoplifting up the nine hundred and fifty bucks,
Speaker 4: Look what happened. The place goes to hell in a handbasket.
Speaker 4: This is, in ef fact, almost like passing legislation decriminalizing
Speaker 4: certain activity. If it's not over a big level offense
Speaker 4: like murder or rape or incest or child molestation or
Speaker 4: something like that, then they're gonna walk.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen people released on unrecognisance bond that
Speaker 2: we're in possession of a fire. Don't we have a
Speaker 2: gun violence problem? They keep claiming in this city.
Speaker 4: No, And it's even with smaller charges as well, because
Speaker 4: the reality of it is that there's issues that go
Speaker 4: on throughout the city, whether it be from you call
Speaker 4: it a non emergency versus a major emergency. That is
Speaker 4: the job of the Cincinnati Police Department. They are there
Speaker 4: to monitor, to protect, and serve. And this is why
Speaker 4: we have them in our city. And you're essentially tying
Speaker 4: their hands and just telling them, oh, don't do this,
Speaker 4: don't do that. And a police force cannot be afraid
Speaker 4: to do their job, and a police force cannot feel
Speaker 4: like their job is meaningless. A police force needs to
Speaker 4: be well funded and well supported by the city, and
Speaker 4: then they need to know that, hey, your city officials
Speaker 4: that hire you, that do this, that they have your back.
Speaker 2: I think city council people in americ can also be
Speaker 2: hopefully bring pressure to bear down on the Hamilton County
Speaker 2: Prosecutor's office and the judges in the community and highlight
Speaker 2: and illustrate who's the good judges and who's the bad judges, because,
Speaker 2: for example, you're in front of Judge Silverstein, you pretty
Speaker 2: much you going to.
Speaker 5: Get a walk or a pass.
Speaker 2: From everything I've read, we'll continue one more with Corey
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Speaker 2: mic comes on, and that's immediately when I had it
Speaker 2: got hit with a sneeze. Thankfully, I have a cough
Speaker 2: button in addition to the dump button. Corey Bowman in
Speaker 2: studio learned about all that this morning, Corey learning more
Speaker 2: than thank you for your grace on that. You're more
Speaker 2: than welcome man. Trust me, brother, You're not the first
Speaker 2: person who's required me to.
Speaker 5: Hit the dumb button.
Speaker 2: So we went down most of your policy platform positions again.
Speaker 2: You can find Corey online at Coreyboman dot com, and
Speaker 2: I encourage you to do that again the the debate
Speaker 2: next week. We'll go one more plug for that Covedale
Speaker 2: Convention Center on the twenty fifth at seven pm, open
Speaker 2: to the public, and all three mayoral candidates will be there.
Speaker 2: Corey Bowman. Of course I have to have Purval and
Speaker 2: Brian Frank, So feel free to attend that and learn
Speaker 2: more Corey. Anything else you want to get in the
Speaker 2: last few minutes we got remaining here that we maybe
Speaker 2: didn't touch on something revealing about you something that might
Speaker 2: be interesting people get interested in voting for you or
Speaker 2: perhaps helping you out in your campaign trail.
Speaker 4: Now, i'd just say the things that we're learning about
Speaker 4: the process. You know, every day I kind of wake
Speaker 4: up thinking why in the world did you get into this?
Speaker 4: Because our background is, you know, pastoring a church and
Speaker 4: then having a coffee shop, and every day I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm having commonversations with people that just encouraged me.
Speaker 4: Like last night we were at Buskin's Bakery and Hyde
Speaker 4: Park area. People came in and now just to say hi,
Speaker 4: here the vision of what we're doing, and just had
Speaker 4: so much encouragement there. And so if any of you
Speaker 4: want to get involved in this, obviously our website Coreyboma
Speaker 4: dot com. But the dates that we're specifically honing in
Speaker 4: on right now is April eighth is going to be
Speaker 4: the early voting starts for the primary.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we're actually having early voting kickoff at
Speaker 4: Price Hill Chili that night, and so if anybody wants
Speaker 4: to attend that, that's going to be I believe from
Speaker 4: I believe five to seven. Okay, so that's April eighth,
Speaker 4: that Price Heal Chili, and then we just have to
Speaker 4: mobilize people to be able to get out and vote.
Speaker 4: April eighth through May sixth, this is when the primary
Speaker 4: dates are happening to where we've got to get anybody
Speaker 4: that wants to see us on the ballot and win
Speaker 4: this primary for November to get out and vote there.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I encourage people to do that, and of course you
Speaker 2: all that information be posted on Corey's website as well,
Speaker 2: keep you informed on what's coming up. Well, Corey, it's
Speaker 2: been a pleasure having in the studio. I appreciate you
Speaker 2: making the trip to talk for in person. It's always
Speaker 2: a nice conversation we've had, and I certainly wish you
Speaker 2: the best of luck on the campaign trail. It's nice
Speaker 2: to see that you're running at enthusiastic people. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: share your understand I mean I wouldn't get into a
Speaker 2: race period. You know, I've been asking for you should
Speaker 2: run for a second.
Speaker 1: Hell no.
Speaker 5: And my my biggest problem.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's but the most you know, blue emphasis I
Speaker 2: can use on the morning show. Yes, you see, but
Speaker 2: it's it's always like hell no. My first reaction and
Speaker 2: the most troubling part of running is for me, at least,
Speaker 2: I perceive that you have to go around and ask
Speaker 2: people for money you need, so you can't run a
Speaker 2: campaign without funds, and that just the idea of that.
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm on the self deprecating side, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big pattern on my own back kind
Speaker 2: of person, So thinking that anybody would want to vote
Speaker 2: for me for anything, it's sort of like my brain
Speaker 2: wants to reject that.
Speaker 4: Well, during our kickoff, people wearing shirts with my name on.
Speaker 3: Very weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I dis liked the concept of celebrity or
Speaker 2: something like that, Like I reel at that. But then
Speaker 2: having that mindset and then having to hold your hand
Speaker 2: out and ask someone to please contribute because I need
Speaker 2: to bake signs, I need to make T shirts.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I wish you the best man.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you got the stomach for it, because you
Speaker 2: seem like a good man on policies and principles, And
Speaker 2: of course I think the city of Sin Sin could
Speaker 2: certainly use a change. It's been run by Democrats for way,
Speaker 2: way too long, and look where they brought us.
Speaker 4: It's all about a choice, it's all about That's what
Speaker 4: we started getting into this for was that I didn't
Speaker 4: like the fact that people weren't going to have a choice.
Speaker 4: And so as we have gone through this, like I said,
Speaker 4: every day you wake up you kind of doubt whether
Speaker 4: this was the right decision. But then by the end
Speaker 4: of the day, I'm more encouraged than ever before that
Speaker 4: this was the right decision. That we're going to run
Speaker 4: to win, and we're going to be able to, you know,
Speaker 4: see strategic things happen in this same that really have
Speaker 4: never been done.
Speaker 2: Excellent closing comments, Corey Bowman. We'll we'll talk again. I
Speaker 2: am certain about that, and good luck and or best
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