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Speaker 4: the eleventh, twenty twenty five. Goodness, folks, and it's the
Speaker 4: Christmas season is upon us and we are ramping up
Speaker 4: quickly to the birth of our Lord and Savior, the
Speaker 4: celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. So we are
Speaker 4: trying to be festive as always. I've got the Christmas
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Speaker 4: course then there's the constant fight of trying to keep
Speaker 4: the cat from climbing the Christmas tree. But it's all
Speaker 4: it's all for good. You know again. I love the
Speaker 4: Christmas season. I've talked about it before that I have.
Speaker 4: You know, I had some complex issues with Chrisstmas during
Speaker 4: the years that I worked in retail, because you saw
Speaker 4: the worst in people. You saw people who really and
Speaker 4: truly just didn't understand Christmas. It was about getting the
Speaker 4: best gift, giving the best gift, and it was one
Speaker 4: of those things that even the most adamant Christmas believer
Speaker 4: would have struggled with. I mean, because you had to
Speaker 4: deal with Black Friday madness, and I can assure you
Speaker 4: that why there are some people there that are trying
Speaker 4: to take advantage so that way they can provide a
Speaker 4: great Christmas for their children. They are a lot more
Speaker 4: that are just there because they're wanting the best, cheapest
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Speaker 4: used to get really belligerent with the employees, and that
Speaker 4: that's a past I'm glad I no longer have to
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Speaker 4: This show is going to be shorter version, hence me
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Speaker 4: releasing it Thursday morning. Been a busy week at work,
Speaker 4: and last night I had every intention of sitting down
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Speaker 4: If you follow our newspaper you'll see some of the
Speaker 4: stories that we've had to cover that are still ongoing.
Speaker 4: So it's been a busy week. So because of that,
Speaker 4: I didn't get to record last night, and I'm going
Speaker 4: to keep this one a little bit shorter, you know,
Speaker 4: like the last episode. But you get in two flagships
Speaker 4: in one week, so if you put them together, you'll
Speaker 4: have an hour long show, I guess. And the other reason,
Speaker 4: of course, is, as I talked about on Monday's show.
Speaker 4: You know, Chris McDaniel, his mother has been in the hospital.
Speaker 4: He's talked about it on social media. He is not
Speaker 4: This is not something he's kept from the public, so
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Speaker 4: expected to be released from the hospital today. Again, that's expected, hopeful,
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Speaker 4: is is best to try to keep things a little
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Speaker 4: I don't want to put out a show that's going
Speaker 4: to pretty much repeat the talking points that I just
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Speaker 4: fun for any of you guys. But that's part of
Speaker 4: the problem. When you're putting out as much content as
Speaker 4: I try to put out for my listeners. It's one
Speaker 4: of those things that you you just know that, Okay,
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Speaker 4: that you can go to find Chris McDaniels America. Looking
Speaker 4: forward to getting back in the swing on that one
Speaker 4: and and having a good time with the show. Now,
Speaker 4: let's talk about the couple of news stories that I
Speaker 4: saw this morning, and that's one that we've seen. Of course,
Speaker 4: one of the biggest tragedies this year was the assassination
Speaker 4: of Charlie Kirk. It's still one of those things that
Speaker 4: leaves all of us shocked. I mean, every single one
Speaker 4: of us saw something and it's it's one of those
Speaker 4: things that I again, it's gonna be one of those
Speaker 4: moments in time that you will forever remember where you were.
Speaker 4: It's one of those moments in time that is etched
Speaker 4: into your brain for the remainder of you being here.
Speaker 4: It's just it's a fact. It is what it is
Speaker 4: when it comes to that, because it was so shocking.
Speaker 4: If you think back to the day when somebody first
Speaker 4: showed you the first video, which was far away and
Speaker 4: you couldn't tell exactly what happened, you questioned if it
Speaker 4: was real, and this day and age of AI, it
Speaker 4: was well within the realm of possibility that what you
Speaker 4: were seeing was one fake, but in our horrified reality,
Speaker 4: it was not, of course, and there's still a lot
Speaker 4: of questions going on after the Charlie Kirk assassination. We
Speaker 4: know that his alleged assassin, Tyler Robinson, is scheduled to
Speaker 4: make his first in person court appearance as he's facing
Speaker 4: his aggravated murder charge he is. The hearing marks the
Speaker 4: most significant step in the case so far, and comes
Speaker 4: amid growing concerns from media outlets and from Kirk's widow
Speaker 4: about the increase in secrecy around the proceedings. Robinson was charged,
Speaker 4: of course, with, as we said before, aggravated murder and
Speaker 4: multiple related felonies in Kirk's shooting. He has appeared via
Speaker 4: video or audio from jail on previous court hearings. Since then,
Speaker 4: much of the case has unfolded behind closed doors, and
Speaker 4: that doesn't sit well with a lot of media organizations,
Speaker 4: Fox News being one of them, and it doesn't sit
Speaker 4: well with myself either, because I want transparency here. There's
Speaker 4: now been a group of media that has requested that
Speaker 4: prosecutors and defense attorney be required to give advanced notice
Speaker 4: whenever they seek to seal filings or restrict public access
Speaker 4: so that those limits can be challenged before taking effect.
Speaker 4: Legal analyst and California based trial attorney, and I'm going
Speaker 4: to butcher his last name here, Roger Bodaker said the
Speaker 4: dramatic shift in transparency has been striking from the start.
Speaker 4: He was quoted as saying, it has been pretty odd
Speaker 4: that the information tap was at full blast for a
Speaker 4: little while and now it's completely shut off. It's kind
Speaker 4: of inconsistent with how you see cases move forward typically.
Speaker 4: Boat Ackers said that authorities were usually forthcoming early in investigations,
Speaker 4: releasing details that prosecutors typically hold back. He said that
Speaker 4: when they first arrested Tyler Robinson, the information tap was
Speaker 4: full blast. They told us they had audio recordings from
Speaker 4: Tyler Robinson and purported confession. They told us there was
Speaker 4: video footage from local fast food restaurant. They were very, very,
Speaker 4: almost oversharing in the beginning. But now they've shut off
Speaker 4: the tap and they're saying you can't even come to
Speaker 4: court and hear about what we're doing, when most of
Speaker 4: it is probably procedural because prosecutors proceeded by the indictment
Speaker 4: rather than the complaint. He noted the public will not
Speaker 4: see a primary a perminent preliminary hearing, and sustain of
Speaker 4: evidence may only emerge if the defense files certain motions
Speaker 4: months down the road. So again, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: folks that are wanting to get more information here, and
Speaker 4: this is something that a lot of folks want to see.
Speaker 4: Because there was a a move to classify the audio
Speaker 4: and transcripts from a closed October twenty fourth hearing as private.
Speaker 4: The session focused on court house security questions and how
Speaker 4: Robinson should appear in court going forward. Media organizations argued
Speaker 4: the public has are right to know when recordings are
Speaker 4: being sealed and challenged those limitations in real time. Charlie
Speaker 4: Kirk's widow, Erica Kirk, voiced concerns last month about the
Speaker 4: shrinking visibility around the case. She questioned why the suspect
Speaker 4: is being shielded from cameras when her husband was killed
Speaker 4: in front of a crowd. She had an interview an
Speaker 4: exclusive interview with Fox News as Jesse Walters, where she
Speaker 4: was quoted saying, there were cameras all over my husband
Speaker 4: when he was murdered. There have been camera all over
Speaker 4: my friends and family mourning. There have been cameras all
Speaker 4: over me analyzing my every move, analyzing my every smile,
Speaker 4: my every tear. We deserve to have cameras in there.
Speaker 4: Budocker said that her reaction is understandable, explaining that Erica
Speaker 4: Kirk's sentiments are readily understandable. She's a grieving widow and
Speaker 4: our hearts go out to her. At the same time,
Speaker 4: he said the court is under immense pressure given the
Speaker 4: political and national significance of the case. He went on
Speaker 4: to be quoted saying that the process has become complicated
Speaker 4: because of how significant Charlie was. This is a very
Speaker 4: political case, or a very politically charged case. There are
Speaker 4: very high emotions in this case, and there's also issues
Speaker 4: of tainting the jury pull. He explained that judges must
Speaker 4: balance the First Amendment right the media with the need
Speaker 4: to preserve the integrity of the trial, saying that court
Speaker 4: proceedings are supposed to be open in public, but you
Speaker 4: do have some real issues with how the public is
Speaker 4: going to access this information as to the consequences for
Speaker 4: the integrity of the trial. The judges ordered that Thursday's
Speaker 4: hearing be held in person, open to the public as
Speaker 4: much as possible, Although no details from the October twenty
Speaker 4: fourth proceeding may be disclosed if the hearing transitions into
Speaker 4: a closed session. The media's coalition's attorneys may remain in
Speaker 4: the court room, but may not share any portion of
Speaker 4: the stilled discussion with any outlet or client. The court
Speaker 4: has also imposed strict guidelines on how Robinson may be shown.
Speaker 4: He cannot be photographed or filmed in shat and may
Speaker 4: only be depicted when seated images of family members are prohibited,
Speaker 4: and reporters must comply with the court's decorum order. These
Speaker 4: restrictions mirror earlier rulings, including the postponement of prior hearings
Speaker 4: after disputes over whether Robinson could appear in jail attire
Speaker 4: and how that might influence public perception. Votacker said that
Speaker 4: these type of concerns are fair. He say courts oftentime
Speaker 4: will prohibit the media from depicting the dependent in shackles
Speaker 4: or in jail clothing because it creates this inference of guilt.
Speaker 4: Appearing restrained, he said, can lead jurors to view the
Speaker 4: defendant as dangerous or guilty before any evidence is presented. Still,
Speaker 4: he noted that restrictions may have limited impact in widely
Speaker 4: covered cases. Anybody who does a Google search will know
Speaker 4: at some point it may be in exercise and futility.
Speaker 4: Is the damage already done? He asked. Robinson's limited physical
Speaker 4: appearances have raised questions as well, and boat Actor says
Speaker 4: that most likely exploitation for keeping him on video is security.
Speaker 4: He says that Tyler Robinson is a security risk. He
Speaker 4: is at risk for being hit by someone who wants
Speaker 4: to seek revenge. He acknowledged the reasoning is a very
Speaker 4: clear deviation from the norm. Despite public frustration with the case,
Speaker 4: boat Acker said that the timeline is a typical is
Speaker 4: typical for a homicide case, particularly one in which the
Speaker 4: prosecution and intends to seek the death penalty. So again,
Speaker 4: there's some things that we are wanting more because this
Speaker 4: was a very very public execution, and I get it,
Speaker 4: I want to see more. But it's also being ramped
Speaker 4: up because there are various conspiracy theories that are being
Speaker 4: floated out about the Charlie Kirk assassination. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to get it into all the conspiracy theories, as I've
Speaker 4: told you before. You know, we like to try to
Speaker 4: project facts. We're not here to chase down conspiracies. You know,
Speaker 4: some of them are outlandish. Some might be probable, but
Speaker 4: they're all theories. They're not rooted in any fact at
Speaker 4: this point in time. If the moment you present me
Speaker 4: with the evidence and show me that this is actual,
Speaker 4: actual conspiracy, then we'll start talking about it. But for now,
Speaker 4: I just don't want to get off into those weeds,
Speaker 4: but only bring them up because these these conspiracy theories
Speaker 4: are ramping up. Why there's so much scrutiny about the
Speaker 4: fact that we're not getting information and when we see
Speaker 4: things like this where the court is sealing court records
Speaker 4: and not even sharing with the media, our brain instantly
Speaker 4: goes to their covering something up when the reality is
Speaker 4: what you hear there. It's standard operating procedure. There are times,
Speaker 4: in high profile cases such as this one, where the
Speaker 4: court has to make these type of decisions. It's not
Speaker 4: necessarily a part of a grand conspiracy. Even though that
Speaker 4: sounds great to us, it just isn't the case. I
Speaker 4: understand the frustration I myself and frustrated I myself have
Speaker 4: gone down a couple of the rabbit holes of some
Speaker 4: of these conspiracy theories. And yes, there are some conspiracy
Speaker 4: theories out there about this case that if you go
Speaker 4: down that rabbit hole can sound believable. And I'm one
Speaker 4: of the first to say that as somebody who doesn't
Speaker 4: deal with conspiracy theories, I have gone down conspiracy theory
Speaker 4: rabbit holes. When I was in high school, I wrote
Speaker 4: a term paper on the JFK assassination and the whole
Speaker 4: point of the paper was to go over the various
Speaker 4: conspiracy theories over who killed JFK. And that in that
Speaker 4: term paper, of course, you know, you had Lee R. V. Oswalt,
Speaker 4: the one that history tells you assassinated JFK. And then
Speaker 4: you had the CIA, you had the Mafia, you had
Speaker 4: the Russians. I mean, there was a whole vast that
Speaker 4: I went down in writing that that term paper. At
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you know, going through all
Speaker 4: those conspiracy theories, I had had no concrete evidence on
Speaker 4: any of them. You know. The closest thing that we
Speaker 4: could find was again, the accepted story that was Lee
Speaker 4: Harvey Oswald, you know, was the only one that had
Speaker 4: And I'm not again, I'm not going down that rabbit
Speaker 4: hole of saying what I believe on the JFK assassination.
Speaker 4: I definitely think there's more to it than just Lee
Speaker 4: Harvey Oswald. But when you went down the rabbit hole,
Speaker 4: because there were so many, the univerally the universally accepted
Speaker 4: answer was the easiest one to swallow. Doesn't mean it's
Speaker 4: the accurate one. It's just became the easiest one to swallow.
Speaker 4: So here we have another high profile assassination like this,
Speaker 4: and yes, people's imagination's going to run wild. Some of
Speaker 4: them may beyond to something, some of them may not be.
Speaker 4: It's just the nature of these type of cases. Because
Speaker 4: it happened in front of each and every single one
Speaker 4: of us, we all saw it. We all saw what
Speaker 4: happened in Charlie. It was right there in our face. People.
Speaker 4: We all want justice for Erica. We all want justice
Speaker 4: for Charlie. We want justice for his children. What happened
Speaker 4: was horrific. Do I believe that this young man shot
Speaker 4: and killed Charlie Kirk and till him presented with something
Speaker 4: credible to make me believe otherwise, Yes, that's I do
Speaker 4: believe he did. It's gonna be interesting to see how
Speaker 4: this trial unfolds. But right now, this judge, and I
Speaker 4: do not envy this judge in the slightest look since
Speaker 4: I started my job as reporter, and I've sat in
Speaker 4: court rooms, I've watched initial court appearances and I understand,
Speaker 4: you know, and in those initial court appearances when they
Speaker 4: determine what the bond's going to be, if there's going
Speaker 4: to be a bond, I've talked with some of the
Speaker 4: judges afterwards, and they're in a tough situation. People. They
Speaker 4: have to consider a lot of factors. And you know,
Speaker 4: not every case, even if the charge is the same,
Speaker 4: is created equal. Not every case are you going to see, well,
Speaker 4: this this is a this is an arm robbery case.
Speaker 4: The last arm robber got one hundred grand bond, this
Speaker 4: one got a twenty five grand. Well, there are extenuating
Speaker 4: factors that go into those decisions. Now, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: I think armed robbery, if judge gives you twenty five
Speaker 4: kon you're probably under cooking there for sure. But I'm
Speaker 4: just using that as an example. They'll look at past priors,
Speaker 4: they'll look at things like that. That's hard enough. But
Speaker 4: in a case like this, where it was very public
Speaker 4: in the entire country, the entire world knows this case.
Speaker 4: The entire world has already seen Tyler Robinson's face, we
Speaker 4: know his name, we know particulars as they've been told
Speaker 4: to us. This judge has a tough time of trying
Speaker 4: to figure out a way to make sure again, we
Speaker 4: may not like Tyler Robinson because of what he did
Speaker 4: allegedly did, but he does, by the rule of our country,
Speaker 4: deserve a fair trial, and that's what this judge is
Speaker 4: trying to do. I don't think this is a case
Speaker 4: of a vast conspiracy of them trying to cover things up.
Speaker 4: I think it's a case.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: Does it frustrate me to hear that this guy that
Speaker 4: very publicly killed Charlie Kirk gets to hide in the
Speaker 4: shadows that we can't have photos of him in shackles. Yes,
Speaker 4: but if he's convicted, we'll get all that. Right now,
Speaker 4: it's all about making sure that when it comes time
Speaker 4: to select the jury, that he can get a jury
Speaker 4: that can go into this thing objectively. If I lived
Speaker 4: in the area and we're asked to come sit on
Speaker 4: that jury, there's no way I could serve because I'm
Speaker 4: convinced Tyler Rominson's guilty as sin, and I'd have to
Speaker 4: say that the judge is trying and it's going to
Speaker 4: be extremely difficult. In a case like this that everybody
Speaker 4: he knows about, everybody has seen at this point, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be really, really difficult for him to make that happen.
Speaker 4: But that's his goal. He's trying to figure out a
Speaker 4: way to make sure that this becomes a jury trial
Speaker 4: that does not get thrown out because you've got biased jurors.
Speaker 4: He's trying his best to make sure that Robinson gets
Speaker 4: a fair trial. It's gonna be difficult, it might be
Speaker 4: damn well impossible. And that's why I say I do
Speaker 4: not envy the job that this judge has to do,
Speaker 4: because I don't see how you're gonna pull that off.
Speaker 4: But unless you just find somebody completely oblivious to anything
Speaker 4: happening in the world, I don't see how you pull
Speaker 4: this off. But if he can pull it off well
Speaker 4: enough to where at the end of the day they
Speaker 4: can get the conviction and then the conviction can stick
Speaker 4: after appeals, then more power to you. One thing that's
Speaker 4: clear one of the reports that we got early on
Speaker 4: that he had confessed obulously. If he did, he has recanted,
Speaker 4: because I don't think that you'd be going through this
Speaker 4: much procedural drama if you had the confession, because that
Speaker 4: would mean he's pleading guilty. It's very clear that Tyler
Speaker 4: Robinson is not pleading guilty in the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 4: at least that's what my amateur eye is telling me
Speaker 4: at the moment. But we'll see. Because again we're along
Speaker 4: ways away from this. We're going to go ahead and
Speaker 4: wrap up with this week's episode right here, quick, little
Speaker 4: thirty minute hitter this week. Hopefully things will slow down
Speaker 4: next week and we come back and give you a
Speaker 4: full length episode before we go into our Christmas break.
Speaker 4: Of course, I still plan on I just got to
Speaker 4: find the time to put it together. I still plan
Speaker 4: on putting together a Christmas episode like I do every year.
Speaker 4: It's up in the air on whether or not I
Speaker 4: will do an actual New Year's episode this year, or
Speaker 4: if I will just be putting together another clip show
Speaker 4: like I've done the last couple of years. If I'm
Speaker 4: back in the area to where I can just do
Speaker 4: a show, it's very possible that I won't be doing
Speaker 4: the Christmas show and then a New Year's kind of
Speaker 4: flipped out show. I will probably do something more in
Speaker 4: line with the regular show, but I do want to
Speaker 4: remind you to check out Chris McDaniels America Today at
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