WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:47.240 Oh redal tess are, Hello, and welcome to the show. 2 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:51.520 This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan, 3 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.200 I'm Jacob, and tonight is the Cult member of live show. 4 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:57.840 Welcome in all the good cult members of the world. 5 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:01.200 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to your Tuesdays. I hope you're having 6 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:03.159 a better one than I did. Not that mine was 7 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:05.719 particularly bad, but the last four hours of my life 8 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:09.120 have been NonStop, balls to the wall, trying to get 9 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:12.519 Kid A to field A and then Kid B two, 10 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:15.239 Event B and then C. I had to just kind 11 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:16.959 of make sure he got taken care of in the 12 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:19.319 mix of it. Tuesday nights are just gonna be shit 13 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:21.079 for me until Christmas. 14 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:23.640 Just that's just the way it's gonna be. It's only 15 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:26.120 a few months, but it. 16 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:27.599 Is nice to know that at the end of all 17 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:30.560 that I get to come here and talk with the familia. 18 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:30.879 You know what I mean. 19 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:35.079 So I'm saying, dude, yeah, this is uh. I think 20 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:40.560 this night plus three more will be my final nights 21 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:42.040 in Texas temporarily. 22 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:46.359 You'll even this so the month of September, you're gonna 23 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:47.879 be there by October is what you're hoping? 24 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:51.200 Yeah, yeah, So actually, I mean I should be there 25 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:54.000 like end of September some some like twenty six or 26 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:55.159 twenty seventh or something like that. 27 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:57.159 So pretty stoked about it. 28 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:02.159 Tell you, what I'm stoked about October is hunting. That's 29 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:04.640 honestly where I'm at with it. My boy, my brother, 30 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:07.239 he got some land and he wants to try to 31 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.360 get us put on some deer this year, and it 32 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:11.560 has been too long since I've had deer meat in 33 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:12.159 the deep freeze. 34 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:14.520 We're gonna try to rectify this problem this season. 35 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.960 But you, yeah, it's nice to have that freezer filled up, 36 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:22.759 Luke said, what up? By the way, I have visual 37 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:25.560 simulations for my work now that that would help out 38 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:25.919 a lot. 39 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:27.000 Bro. 40 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:29.280 I try to keep up with you, Luke when you 41 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:31.879 when you talk about your theorems and things. And it's 42 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:34.319 not that I am saying, well, I don't believe him 43 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:36.319 because I can't understand it. I'm saying, like, Bro, I 44 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:38.759 try to keep up with you. I'm doing my damnedest, 45 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:41.039 but you are. You're dealing with things that I think 46 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:43.560 most human beings don't hear about until they go to college. 47 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:46.879 And I went to tech school, not like traditional college. 48 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:51.479 So sorry, that's that's like five. That's that's five d Like. 49 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:52.360 What he's talking about. 50 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:55.560 Nobody with a business degree is ever gonna hear, or 51 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:59.560 even a philosophy degree or whatever liberal arts degree communications. 52 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:01.759 No one of them are gonna ever understand what the 53 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:04.159 fuck you're talking about. But I do believe that you're 54 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:04.599 on one. 55 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:08.280 So oh yes, white boy wizard said, fuck yes feel 56 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:09.319 that freezer, Jacob. 57 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:12.240 Yes, indeed also a white boy Wizard. I am loving 58 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.000 your AI image that you have for yourself. 59 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:15.680 That's dope. 60 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:19.800 Hey, thank you talking about who Amus and ship dude. 61 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.319 Yeah, yeah, I had actually just gotten done watching this. 62 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.360 I watch a lot of witches on TikTok. It's like 63 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:30.000 my favorite pastime and uh, just you know, learning about 64 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:34.159 all the different herbs and astrology and spells and you know, 65 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:36.240 stuff like that. I love that kind of stuff. It's 66 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:38.719 just so fun. And now that we're definitely now that 67 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:43.400 we're coming up on you know, the fall season, yeah, dude. 68 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:44.080 It's gonna be even better. 69 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:46.800 But we're actually gonna be having on this witch and 70 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:48.800 she's gonna teach us how to do like a bunch 71 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:49.840 of spells ever on meta. 72 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:52.639 It's gonna be sick. It should be fun. 73 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:55.319 Yeah, just like a part of a coven or is 74 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:59.240 like a self talk kind of situation. Like I think that, 75 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:03.800 I think that she's the HWIC heard that, you know 76 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:05.639 what I'm saying, So I think she's got a little 77 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:06.800 bit of that in her. I don't know if she 78 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:10.560 has a coven or not, but yeah, seems very knowledgeable. 79 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:12.479 I just love learning about that kind of stuff. 80 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:13.039 It's so cool. 81 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.480 Tony said, Russia is not communist anymore or part of 82 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:20.120 an international conspiracy. 83 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:24.680 That's a random thing to throw out, Like, all right, 84 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:27.319 word Tony, if you want to give a little clarification 85 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.480 as to what you're talking about there, that would be dope. 86 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.519 I mean, they're not communist, they're a full on oligarchy. 87 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:36.279 But I mean there's an argument to be said that 88 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:41.360 most First World countries are in any rate, So I mean, yeah, 89 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:44.399 heard that, I mean, not a part of a global conspiracy. 90 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:46.639 I feel like that's a matter of perspective. 91 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:56.720 Dude, Tony, what are your thoughts, sir? Or I thought, Okay, well, 92 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:58.920 whatever you're ready, Tony. We don't want to push you, Bud. 93 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:05.959 Not that you're shy by any means dirty, Sanchez said, 94 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:09.439 good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Good to see all y'all again, 95 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:10.600 or you will. 96 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:14.160 Just to be alive. Said what's up, guys? Hope all 97 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:14.560 is well and. 98 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:18.720 Y'all are happy and healthy thanks to much doing the 99 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:19.279 best of can. 100 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:21.120 I forgot to grab an energy to drink on the 101 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:23.800 way home, some slug and meal energy like it's water. 102 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:25.560 So we'll see how it goes, you. 103 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:28.759 Know, Honey Badger said, Witches are seamen stealers. 104 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:34.040 You know, you know, arguably in more way than one. Yeah, 105 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:36.160 I'm for ritual sometimes so they try to get that 106 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:36.839 child support. 107 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:39.839 I guess it depends on their their motive, you know. 108 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:41.680 Look, I mean, if you're going to be doing a 109 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:45.240 kind of spell on a specific individual who is a male, 110 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:48.560 you would be you would be better off with his 111 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:51.160 semen than his hair or his nails, right. 112 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:53.839 I could just see it like they go talk to 113 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:56.439 their other witches and be like, yeah, what's up, witches, 114 00:05:56.480 --> 00:05:59.199 Listen here. I just did a money spell last night, 115 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.160 and I think it's gonna work out here in. 116 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:03.480 About a year. Oh no way, why is it? 117 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:06.279 I fucked a really rich guy and use sex magic 118 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:07.920 to make him come inside, and I told him I 119 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:09.639 was on birth control, but of course I was doing 120 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:11.720 it to the to the praises of hathor praise b 121 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:14.879 and you know, I don't know, I don't know, but 122 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.000 I just so happen to think that my finance. 123 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.079 Will be getting a ethereal blessing and about. 124 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:24.959 Actually, what's funny is is that especially all over TikTok, 125 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:28.319 I don't know, probably Instagram too, but I see a 126 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:34.959 lot of witches working either with Hecita or somebody that 127 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:40.000 is known as the Morrigan also also known as and 128 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:42.199 I don't know, some people get them confused. I'm not 129 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:46.360 even exactly sure, but there is the Maiden Mother Crone, 130 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:48.439 which sometimes intersects. 131 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:48.600 With the Morgan. 132 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:52.519 I think, so here's where those two stem from. Hecate 133 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:55.839 is a very very old deity. But the reason why 134 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:58.560 so many witch covens are actually trying to put her 135 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:03.839 as they're like head hbic if you will, is because 136 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:07.519 of Sabrina the Teenage, which the Netflix series, because at 137 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:09.759 the end of that, when they were worshiping Satan for 138 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:12.399 the whole season, out of nowhere, they like re establish 139 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.439 the coven and they start worshiping Hecta, and that's like 140 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.639 the most powerful magic so the TV show as to 141 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:21.560 why they're doing that, the Morgan is a Celtic figure 142 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:25.800 that's from Celtic mythology, which they all feel like stems 143 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:28.079 from Druidism, which I'm not gonna say it doesn't. 144 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:31.800 Maybe it does. I mean it has its roots for sure. 145 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:34.959 But the only difference, and I'm not gonna say difference, the 146 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:36.879 only issue we have with it is that from the 147 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:39.680 Celtic religion and the ways and the history and the lore. 148 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.639 There is very few sources. They are interesting sources. 149 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:46.120 I'm not like trying to discredit them by any means, 150 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:49.439 but it's like it think about with the Nordic paganism, right, 151 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.480 if we only had one saga and like that's it, 152 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:55.240 and people are trying to make a whole religion off 153 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:58.040 of one saga, not even a whole eta, not even 154 00:07:58.920 --> 00:07:59.480 this saga. 155 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:02.240 This saga are like only one book. That's kind of 156 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:02.720 what it's like. 157 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:06.360 Whenever they try to revitalize Celtic paganism, they're going off 158 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:09.720 of like only one source known to exist. So like, 159 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.240 you know me, but it is it's interesting to see 160 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:14.160 how more of that is on the rise. 161 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:17.040 I do like looking into Druidry and yeah, I mean 162 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:19.959 most of what you get from learning about druidry is 163 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:23.160 just from the people that were killing them. This third 164 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:27.399 person information, which I think even further validates even what 165 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:30.079 what the little bit that they do say. You know 166 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:32.679 what I'm saying, it's like you're going to be It's 167 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:35.159 a lot like your your story about Jesus. It's like 168 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.519 you have accommodating accounts, right of like even the enemy 169 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.360 that we're saying that, like, yeah, this guy was on 170 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:42.360 some shit, right. 171 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:44.960 So I'm with you, I'm with you on that. But like, 172 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:47.320 for instance, here's an example with the Druids. There is 173 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:51.639 a an account by a Roman historian that talks about 174 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:54.799 how they built a scaffold into a tree and they 175 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:58.840 cut some mistletoe with a golden stickle. Right, and it's 176 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:01.159 like a very well document thing. It's a ceremony that 177 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.360 the Druids did. Here's the problem. Nobody's taking that away 178 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:07.919 from them. Everybody can agree that is an event that 179 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:11.240 took place. No one knows why the fuck they did this. 180 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:14.559 No one knows the significance of the gold or the sickle. 181 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:17.200 Why was it missiled? So why couldn't they climb the tree? 182 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:19.759 Why do it have to be a scaffold? Like the context 183 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.519 for them as to why they were doing this practice 184 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:24.960 lost to the sands of time, and it's it's stuff 185 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:26.960 like that about the Druids, where like you can find 186 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:30.600 accounts of an action that took place, but no idea 187 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:33.039 as to what or what God or deity or the 188 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:34.559 re It's there's a lot. 189 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:35.039 Missing, you know. 190 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:35.840 Yeah. 191 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:37.679 One thing that I thought was pretty cool was that 192 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:42.320 they they they work with like the elements from what 193 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:45.360 I hear, and a lot of it to tell. Yeah, 194 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:48.080 and a lot of that is done in the grove, which. 195 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:49.279 Is just the woods basically, But. 196 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:52.039 Yeah, the grove was like a sacred place for them, 197 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:52.799 which I agree. 198 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:53.720 I think it's kind of dope. 199 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:56.559 Yeah, Tony, sorry, go ahead, man, what are your thoughts? 200 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:00.360 You had mentioned about Russia not being communist anymore? What 201 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:01.840 do you have to say about that, sir? 202 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:06.759 Yeah, sorry, my phone froze earlier, But I was reacting 203 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:12.799 to the Anatoty Galitzian episode with the Peristroika deception, and 204 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:16.399 I thought the implication was that there was some long 205 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:21.919 lasting communist plot, but maybe he was saying it's not communists. 206 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:25.759 What do you think so with the Peristroika deception, the 207 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:29.159 best that I could find is that although, yeah, communism 208 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:34.120 spawned out of Russia. Yes, I'm not saying that Russia 209 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:38.600 is behind trying to ultra liberify the left and all 210 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:42.080 these things. I'm not saying that communism is a worldwide 211 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:44.919 threat and a worldwide problem. 212 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.559 And I think that's what it was because this Paristroyka 213 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:48.600 and it's talking about the. 214 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:53.120 Fall of the Soviet Union, but that's not necessarily saying 215 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:56.360 that Russia is still trying to make a worldwide Soviet 216 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.840 Union happen to day. I think it's more of the 217 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:02.559 ideology that they tried to implement into multiple countries and 218 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:04.960 we're still seeing the remnants of it today. And I 219 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.840 think that it's a culture war, but I don't think 220 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:10.279 that it's from one specific country to the world. 221 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.919 I think that it's like it's. 222 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.200 Like sleeper cells all over the world, if that makes sense. 223 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.559 Yeah, regarding the whole timeline, since he came out with that, 224 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:25.360 he defected in nineteen sixty one and he revealed to 225 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:29.159 the West that there was a plot in the Politburo 226 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:33.519 to undergo reform movements in Russia but still maintain the 227 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:35.639 goal of communism, and I'm sure that must have been 228 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:38.559 true in nineteen sixty one. In fact, Khrushchev around that 229 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:42.799 time even told Eisenhower or his cabinet that, you know, 230 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:45.159 you guys aren't communists now, but I promise you your 231 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:47.919 grandchildren will be. And that was a big aspect of 232 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.759 communist ideology, which is that it's deterministic and it's just 233 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:54.600 bound to happen no matter what you call it. Yeah, 234 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:57.080 and I would argue it. Leftism has really changed a 235 00:11:57.080 --> 00:12:01.679 lot since those days, and the whole battle between you know, 236 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.440 the classes, which is central to communism, is not so 237 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:10.720 emphasized anymore. So leftism is still a threat. But i'd 238 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:18.559 say the lit scene he overestimated how powerful communism was 239 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:21.360 going to be in the long term, and he thought that, 240 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:25.399 you know, it could outlast the Soviet Union. But this 241 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:28.679 Communist Party in the Soviet in Russia today is the 242 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:31.759 second most popular party and it's only got thirteen percent 243 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:37.120 of the of the vote and representation. Well, I totally 244 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:42.240 agree with you. The far left is definitely a global threat. 245 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:46.440 It's changed so much it's basically unrecognizable to what it 246 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:49.080 used to be. And I would say that Russia's leadership 247 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:52.720 today is not leftist. I would say Putin is basically 248 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:53.840 like a Republican. 249 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:57.120 Oh yeah, I would actually put him to the ultra 250 00:12:57.159 --> 00:12:59.639 conservative if we're like really going to put it on 251 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:02.480 a on a spectrum by any means, Yeah, I would 252 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:06.799 put Putin into the more along the lines of the 253 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:09.000 ultra conservative of anything. I don't think that he's like 254 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.559 a far left comedy by any stretch of the imagination. 255 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:14.360 Yeah, Okay, it looks like we're on the same page. 256 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.039 I'm glad that we got to discuss this a little 257 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:21.679 bit now, I guess. And back to witches and druids 258 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:22.120 and stuff. 259 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:29.440 The Gid said, happy cult night, yo, Gid, what up? 260 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:29.799 Royce? 261 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:33.080 Anthony said, damn Sagas and EDI's I missed too much 262 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:33.639 so early. 263 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:36.399 Now you came in right at the time when we 264 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:39.759 were talking about your flavor of things there, Anthony. Basically 265 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:42.240 we were just talking about how, uh, you know, there's 266 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:46.159 witches that are worshiping the morgan As like their head deity. 267 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:51.279 And there is not much written record of the Celtic 268 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.120 religion of old. There is a few stories and they're 269 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.240 all kind of put into one book. But I think 270 00:13:58.279 --> 00:13:59.840 it's called the tod Dnu. 271 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:04.480 I could be wrong or donon or something like that. 272 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:09.159 I'm about to thank you. I'm I'm the author. Yeah, 273 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.399 and we might even be mispronouncing that bitch. I don't know, 274 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:14.039 but that's like one of the only scant sources that 275 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:16.320 we have on anything Celtic related. 276 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.120 And the Morgan is talked about there. 277 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:21.080 But it's uh, yeah, that that was kind of what 278 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:24.000 led to and I said, it's like it can consider 279 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:26.879 people that are claiming to be Nordic pagan these days 280 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:30.159 and they only got one Etta, like there's only been 281 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:32.919 one Eta that was ever written about period, and like 282 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:34.879 that's the entirety they have to go on to try 283 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:37.399 to make an entire religion out of. It's that's kind 284 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:39.240 of the same conversation for people that are trying to 285 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:39.919 bring back. 286 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:42.679 Celtic pagan It almost it almost is to a point 287 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:44.919 to where it has to become eclectic at that point 288 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:47.480 just to fill in the blanks, which I don't have 289 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:50.799 any problem with personally. But Anthony, what are your thoughts 290 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:54.919 on it, sir? Trying to find the on mute there 291 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:55.320 we go. 292 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:57.240 Yeah, I was, but. 293 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:05.080 So yeah, it is uh because yeah, we definitely have. 294 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:12.600 Druids. The I use the term Germanic because. 295 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:18.120 Say Norse, you think it's only like Norwegian countries, but 296 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:25.679 of Europe outside the Celtic in various names. I mean, 297 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:34.559 even the Eda's like like about mythology, so even the 298 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:39.720 broader that's a true Norse paganism, Like they really don't 299 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:54.159 have much more than in the self proclaimed Celtic practitioners have. 300 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:55.440 I've met some people that. 301 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.519 Morgan specifically, because she's like. 302 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:08.519 It's documented of of the Celts, of the Celtic gods 303 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:15.759 and goddesses, other bridget but she's lesser known by a 304 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:16.559 high degree. 305 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:18.480 But it is it is interesting. 306 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:19.159 I mean, like. 307 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:24.720 I I've read some argument. I've read some I gotta 308 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:30.600 call them arguments because the evidence is loose. Yeah, about 309 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:35.200 interesting facts about one like that that the Druids were 310 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:39.279 their own, separate people before they mixed with the Celts 311 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:43.559 and became the priests class, which if that is true, 312 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:47.679 would add a even second layer on top of that. 313 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:53.679 And then I've I know when I was involved with 314 00:16:53.759 --> 00:17:00.600 a couple uh also true organizations, there was a couple 315 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:05.839 self proclaimed researchers, and I have to say self proclaimed 316 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:11.640 for various reasons. I heard that that we're trying, essentially 317 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:18.279 trying to posit the argument that the Celts were just 318 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:26.400 another Germanic tribe and trying to wrap Celtic paganism in 319 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:35.440 broader Germanic paganism, which while yes, there there is genealogical 320 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:41.480 evidence to suggest at least some tribes of the Celts 321 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:48.759 migrated into the area from central central Germany, that's not 322 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:55.920 all of them. And even from a pagan's standpoint, like, 323 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:04.519 while there are similarities, the similar to uh Germanic paganism 324 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:10.039 and Celtic paganism are about the same as Germanic paganism 325 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:16.400 to the Vedic traditions and their significantly stronger evidence for. 326 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:18.880 People from the. 327 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:23.920 Vedic region Vedic region going into Teutonic lands in that 328 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:27.400 blending together to create what we would now call Norse 329 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:33.240 paganism Germanic paganism, then for that Germanic then for Norse 330 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.559 paganism to have been as much of an influence on 331 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:44.839 the Celts, and tell the Saxons, the Angles, the Saxons 332 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:49.720 and the Jukes came over and then we have and 333 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:55.440 the Anglo Saxon mixture. So it's I'm with you, it's 334 00:18:55.519 --> 00:19:01.400 interesting but yeah, I mean really those two tradition specifically, Yeah, 335 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:02.720 it's it. 336 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:05.799 I'm not gonna say it's a night and day difference, 337 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:10.680 but there are some very clear, discernible differences between the two. 338 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:15.079 I can I can see why somebody would postulate that 339 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:19.000 the Celts and the Nordic pagans, or let's just call 340 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:22.000 them Germanics, right for lack of better terms, the Galls 341 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:24.359 and the Vandals and all these cool coold the Visigoths. 342 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.359 I could understand why you would look at these things 343 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:29.279 on a piece of paper and try to find the 344 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:32.039 similarities in them. And there are some, but I think 345 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:34.039 you actually do a very good job of trying to 346 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:37.279 explain how that would be like trying to compare Nordic 347 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:40.880 paganism to the Vedics. It's it's There may be a 348 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:44.720 few similarities, but there is way more differences in the 349 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:47.960 Celtic folklore and traditions than there is of anything of 350 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:51.759 Northern European descent. And I mean, even if you're looking 351 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:54.119 at just the one source that we have for stories, 352 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:57.960 your main boy, one of my favorite actually, it's one 353 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:00.319 of the first stories in the book. Homeboy is on 354 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:04.720 a ship with forty women and they keep trying to 355 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:08.000 grab at his dick, and he says, no, I don't 356 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:09.640 want to have sex with all of you. I'm a 357 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:11.799 virtuous guy and y'all are annoying the shit out of me. 358 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:14.119 And these women will not leave him alone. So you 359 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:16.759 know what he does. He turns himself into a salmon, 360 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:18.400 jumps in the water, and stays. 361 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:20.920 Hidden for one hundred years. I'm paraphrasing, but that's. 362 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:23.200 It sounds like the spirit animal in a past life. 363 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:26.440 But there is no sense of anything like that in 364 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:28.200 the Nordics. You see what I'm saying. It's like there's 365 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:31.799 I see, you know, shape shifting and these types of things. 366 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.200 Maybe the reference to a boat or being hidden for years, 367 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:37.880 like okay, if we're looking at it with the broadest 368 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.680 brushstrokes possible, then maybe. But yeah, to say that Celts 369 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.440 took their notes from the Germanics or vice versa, I 370 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.359 feel like that cuts the legs out from under about 371 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:50.920 a thousand years worth of culture for each of these groups. 372 00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:51.519 For sure. 373 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:55.400 Oh for saying it's it's my same argument argument against pantheism. 374 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:59.960 For those that don't know that term, It's essentially pantheism 375 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:04.319 is the argument that all the gods and goddesses are 376 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:07.119 the same, just under different meanings. 377 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:10.000 You also see this very much in. 378 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:14.599 The well they don't call them God's the the whole 379 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:18.799 Aunaki mythos, like everything comes back to nk. 380 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:19.359 And en Lil. 381 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:23.440 I at least can understand why around the Mesopotamo or 382 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:26.440 the Mediterranean, I should say, where these cultures were neighboring 383 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.359 each other for four thousand years, why certain things would 384 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.279 kind of flow in a similar path, and why this 385 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:35.880 god might have a lot of the same attributes as 386 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:37.920 this other god, just called by a different name. 387 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:39.880 But like a lot of the story arc sticks together. 388 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:43.440 I could at least understand the line of thinking on 389 00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:49.119 that one. But yeah, Celts and Nords, there's some very 390 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:51.319 very clear differences between the two. 391 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:56.039 Interesting how you see that there may be multiple definitions 392 00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:59.720 of the same word, because I, you know, Anthony just 393 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:03.039 brought up that, you know, pantheism would be representative of 394 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:05.880 all the gods kind of working together. And you know, 395 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:09.200 whenever I've looked into it, it's not necessarily that. It's 396 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:11.559 more so that you look around and there's nothing that 397 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:16.160 isn't God. So almost looking at every single bit of 398 00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:20.960 reality would essentially be all one giant being. 399 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:25.160 I've never heard that be used for description of pantheistic before. 400 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:27.960 Oh yeah, that's that's the understanding that I have of 401 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:29.839 pantheon as well. 402 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.319 Right, Pantheistic means like a pantheon of gods. I have 403 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:35.079 never heard of being described in this way. 404 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:35.480 But it's like. 405 00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:39.839 Panning a poly like polytheistic, right, well. 406 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:42.440 Yeah, polytheistic, But there's also a pantheon. 407 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:47.559 Of gods pantheism though, even though they share a similar 408 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:53.359 sounding like prefix. Pantheism is the from what I what 409 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:58.720 I learned, is the the understanding that anything, everything is 410 00:22:58.759 --> 00:23:01.000 made up of God essentially. 411 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:06.000 Yeah, I got it right here. Pantheism Oh sorry, go ahead, Nick, Yeah, 412 00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:06.359 go ahead. 413 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:06.880 Uh. 414 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:09.920 Pantheism is the belief that the universe and everything in 415 00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:12.480 it is identical to God, viewing the universe as a 416 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:16.720 manifestation of a divine reality. It emphasizes the interconnectedness of 417 00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:19.440 all things and often rejects the idea of a personal 418 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:20.759 anthropomorphic deity. 419 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:25.359 Interesting, yeah, okay, which means that everything you look at, 420 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:29.640 everything you interact with, everything that interacts with you is 421 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:32.839 and should be treated as divine. 422 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:38.160 Uh yeah, okay, So interesting, gray Low actually puts something 423 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:41.039 up says, if you're referring to pantheism, that's the belief 424 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:43.559 that the divine is identical with the universe, which is 425 00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:47.119 what I just read. If you meant pantheist or pantheistic, 426 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:50.480 it's someone who holds that belief. Okay, so yeah, about 427 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:53.759 the same which is actually the belief that I hold. 428 00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:57.440 And And actually the the argument that I make is 429 00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:01.039 that if you if you look around it anything and 430 00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:04.279 you say that that's not God, that means, in my opinion, 431 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.799 would be that you're putting limitations on what God could 432 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:10.599 be or what is what he is, right, So that's 433 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:11.279 kind of how I. 434 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:11.799 Look at it. 435 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.680 And interesting, there's an argument to be said that if 436 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:21.000 you don't count yourself as a part of that, you're 437 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:28.079 separating yourself from God in your own image. So there's 438 00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:31.240 like a little bit of a counterintuitive like you know, 439 00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:35.359 the whole like New Age things, you know, people thinking 440 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:37.839 that that their own gods. But the reality is like, 441 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:41.720 if you think that you're separate from the one, then 442 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:47.079 you are kind of like making something and you're making it. 443 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:50.079 You can't be separate from the thing that is everywhere, 444 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:52.039 and that's always Is. 445 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:56.079 There any extenuating circumstances put on this belief like you 446 00:24:56.119 --> 00:24:59.799 just throwing it out, Maybe somebody who is purely acting 447 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.880 on evil of the darkest and malicious, most malicious of intents. 448 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:05.200 Will we say that. 449 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:08.839 They are therefore not all God or all good? Or 450 00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:10.880 you're saying that God is not all good? 451 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:14.039 Uh well, God himself says that he's not all good. 452 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:17.000 Yeah, it does fall in those same kind of categories, 453 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:20.680 but it it goes along the lines of like you 454 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:28.279 are embodying the divine less the more negative that you 455 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:34.119 begin to act essentially like you cannot have those things 456 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.079 cannot be present in your life if you are closer 457 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:44.839 on the scale of like being and resonating with that essence. 458 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:47.240 Right, And this is something that I always like to 459 00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:51.480 bring up, is you know, because this is people will 460 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:54.720 try and figure out like, all right, well, that can't 461 00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:56.119 be God. But then they try and come up with 462 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:58.400 a definition of what is God. And you're most likely 463 00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:00.319 to say that God would be all good. But then 464 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:02.480 you look at Isaiah chapter forty five, verse seven that 465 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:06.400 says I form the light and create darkness, I make 466 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.000 peace and create evil. 467 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:09.680 I the Lord do all. 468 00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:13.839 These things, so not all good according. 469 00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:15.680 To that creates all evil. He didn't say he is 470 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.519 part evil. There's a difference. There's a distinction. But again, 471 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:20.440 as you were talking about God, I was hoping you 472 00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:23.519 weren't talking about the biblical God, because you are of 473 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:26.680 the belief that God is something that is not necessarily 474 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:27.359 found in the Bible. 475 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:29.599 I was hoping you were referencing like a different source. 476 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:34.119 But no, No, it's just showing that there is a 477 00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:37.559 little bit of polarity even within that God. But I mean, personally, 478 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:39.640 I'm of the belief that the God of the Bible 479 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.279 is the demiurge. That's just my own personal belief though. 480 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:47.079 Oh Jesus Christ, Okay, I'm just saying, if you look 481 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.319 at the Nagamadi, it'll start to click a little bit. 482 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:51.480 We're not gonna turn this into a whole Christian episode. 483 00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:53.240 We always do the lives in a Christian sense, and 484 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:54.039 I don't want to do that. 485 00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:56.880 I didn't bring up the Bible today, gonna point that out. 486 00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:59.160 I know everybody has all that. Jacob's on his rant again. 487 00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:01.640 Notice I'm usually not the one that brings the ship up. 488 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.680 But okay, you've been pretty hard about bringing up the 489 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:06.759 last couple of times, but this time you didn't. I 490 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:10.599 have not getting Oh spirit animal has something to say 491 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.240 about that. Go ahead, spirit Animal. 492 00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:15.480 I apologize a lot of times. 493 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.400 It's probably my fault too, because I like the enough 494 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.359 and all, so I apologize. 495 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:23.759 Oh that's okay. Sam has got my message. 496 00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:26.400 What what about your message? 497 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:29.920 You got my chat message the nepheline giants. 498 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:31.920 Oh no, I didn't see that. 499 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.559 Oh okay, we'll get to that. 500 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.720 Yeah, Sam has not smoked yet because his eyes you 501 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:38.519 can still see his. 502 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:44.720 Pupils so well up yet, man, Yeah. 503 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.920 Those eyes are really open right now, sir. 504 00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:48.960 Don't get used to it. 505 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:53.000 Okay, We're almost thirty minutes in and I haven't seen 506 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:54.480 the lighter spark one time. 507 00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:56.440 You're taking it easy tonight, brother. 508 00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.519 No, I'm eeting my I'm eating supper. 509 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.200 Oh oh so white white cas. 510 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:14.640 Medium case and scoops cooking a night. 511 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.880 That is gourmet stuff right there, my friend. 512 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:20.599 Oh dude, you need a Miller high life with that. 513 00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.759 Now. 514 00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:27.640 I'll be out back, get you a champagne of beers. Man, 515 00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:29.039 be a classic, git with it. 516 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:33.680 Yeah, let's see yo. Gid sent a picture. 517 00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:36.039 It's a meme that says, when you've made so many 518 00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.880 bad decisions, he comes to you to talk, Uh, comes 519 00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:43.279 to talk to you in person. Where it looks like 520 00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:46.079 it's that may be Vegas, where it's Jesus talking. 521 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.359 To uh, a woman wearing pasties. It could be so 522 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:50.640 many large cities. 523 00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:52.440 It very well could be Vegas. That might be New 524 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.279 York City. I don't be knowing, but yeah, it's pretty funny. 525 00:28:55.920 --> 00:29:02.079 Yeah, Jonathan and Jacob, did you guys watch Father Stu 526 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:09.039 about the priest now yet? 527 00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:09.720 Is it good? 528 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.480 It's really well, it's it's Catholic ish or whatever. It's religious, 529 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:18.000 but sure, you know who cares, but really good, well acted. 530 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.599 Mel Gibson's in it. And but there there is a 531 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:28.079 scene where, you know, Father, you know Stu, he's like 532 00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:33.559 thinking about he's just getting drunk at a bar and 533 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:38.680 this guy approaches approaches him, you know, beard scarface, you know, 534 00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:44.240 And it's very open ended if that was Jesus or not, 535 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:47.119 because after that he got this, you know, he was drunk, 536 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:51.279 got a horrific bike accident and then you know, Mother 537 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:54.680 Mary came to him. But I don't know, you guys 538 00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:57.599 would have to check it out because it's kind of ambiguous, 539 00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:01.160 but it's it's a very interesting scene and it's well acted. 540 00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:04.920 Hell yeah, I haven't seen Fatherstu yet. I think I've 541 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:06.599 heard of it, but hell yeah, man, I'm down to 542 00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:07.160 check it out. 543 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.000 It's fent out for a while, but yeah, Mark Wahlberg, 544 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:12.079 you guys would like it, that's right. 545 00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.680 Yeah, yeah, that looked really good. Go ahead, Sam, I 546 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:16.759 see your hand raised brother. 547 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:20.680 Okay, uh, forgive me, I'm a dumb ass. But what 548 00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:25.839 what is a demio? And also, fuck your your your highlights? 549 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:34.079 This micro if you want a diet Yeah, come on, man, 550 00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.640 hear the female beer. But now all of a sudden, 551 00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.200 it's just for guys that are watching their waistline or something. 552 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.079 It's it's basically water with alcohol in it. 553 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:53.400 Yeah, this bullship and then a fucking white cow. 554 00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:54.559 That ship. 555 00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:58.200 It's just fruit flavored static as all that is. But 556 00:30:58.519 --> 00:30:59.359 you better watch your mouth. 557 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.960 The demi urge Samuel, if you want to look into 558 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:08.079 anything that the Gnostics teach. Essentially, the Gnostics were teaching 559 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.640 that the story of the Bible is close to accurate 560 00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.720 but missed a couple of steps, and they believe that 561 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:19.079 the God of the Bible aka Yahweh, is actually not 562 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.599 the god like the Creator. They believe that the creator 563 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.000 God is above him, but that the god that they 564 00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.200 call Yahweh is actually something called the Demiurge, which is 565 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.079 more akin to what we might refer to as Satan. 566 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:33.759 And I don't mean like the fall from grace and 567 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.400 all these things, like the colloquial devil and all that. 568 00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:41.079 He's the adversary. He's the one that's coming here to 569 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:43.000 hit the blender and churn ship up just for. 570 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:43.559 The fuck of it. 571 00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.599 And the Gnostics taught that for a couple of centuries 572 00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.880 until they were hunted down and slaughtered on mass and. 573 00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.279 Still exists to this day. Baby, do what? 574 00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.240 So the Nogamadi still exists to this day, so you 575 00:31:59.240 --> 00:31:59.920 can go and get it. 576 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:00.720 I have the book. 577 00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:03.680 Actually, it's a very interesting read even if you just 578 00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:06.759 look at it, like, you know, don't even give your opinion, 579 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:08.599 and just read it for the story that it is, 580 00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:10.960 so that you can understand at least what the Gnostic 581 00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.680 you know, frame of references. It's a very fascinating read, 582 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.559 even if you just look at it for it's like, 583 00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:22.599 I don't know, a fictionalized version of It's almost like 584 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:23.319 like how they got. 585 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:27.039 The what's that? 586 00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:33.839 Okay, if you look at like the Wicked movies that 587 00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:35.920 are coming out that are trying to paint the Wicked 588 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.519 Witch of the East as like a good person, it's 589 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.000 almost like that same view of just shifting perspectives. 590 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.039 And I don't know, I find it be very interesting. 591 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:47.559 But essentially, the Demiurge is like the false God, the 592 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.079 one that is judging and condemning and doing all these things, 593 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.880 and you know, ultimately the one that's set up Adam 594 00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.200 and Eve and the and the garden and tempted them 595 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:03.359 with the rude from the tree of knowledge of good 596 00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:06.319 and evil or whatever, and the snake was there, and 597 00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.440 some people within the Gnostic text they'll say that the 598 00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.759 snake was actually maybe one of the earliest reincarnation or 599 00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:17.279 one of the earliest incarnations of Jesus. Hypothetically, I like 600 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.319 that you gave it in the terms that you did. 601 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:23.880 It's very similar to the Wicked movie. In the Broadway play, 602 00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:28.400 it's by somebody who never actually read the book but 603 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.359 made a spin off off of the movie that actually 604 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:35.559 didn't follow the book too closely either. Gnostic texts are 605 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.880 very similar to that. It's by people that kind of 606 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.200 knew the story of the Bible, but then put their 607 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:42.480 own flavor and spin on it, and it's kind of 608 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.519 seen as in today's terms, with no hatred being thrown. 609 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.720 It's kind of similar to like possibly a fanfic. I mean, 610 00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:50.920 I'm not saying that in a colloquial negative way. I 611 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.680 would rather read Dante Aligary's Divine Comedy if I'm trying 612 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:56.599 to read Biblical fanfic than the Gnostics. 613 00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:58.519 But I see what you're saying. If you're reading it 614 00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.559 just for the story, it could be entertaining. 615 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:02.920 I'm saying, you know, you could look at it from 616 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.039 that perspective if you're a Christian. I'm not saying that 617 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.039 that's what I believe that it is. I'm just saying 618 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.440 you could look at it from that angle. I personally 619 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.639 believe that the Gnostic story is closer to true than 620 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.199 the real quote unquote story. 621 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.159 So that's just my only get it. 622 00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:19.800 I would love to have a conversation with you one 623 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.119 day about why do you believe that other than your 624 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.519 own feelings, like what sources which backing in these things. 625 00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:28.000 We don't have to do that tonight, but we can 626 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:29.320 have that conversation one day. 627 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.360 There was a We had a gentleman on the show 628 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:35.679 last night and he had he had a T shirt. 629 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:39.280 I'm trying to remember what it said. You know what, 630 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:41.280 I don't even want to try and guess what it was. 631 00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:42.760 I'm gonna look for it real quick because I don't 632 00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:46.280 want to butcher it. But almost like instead of looking 633 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:48.760 for knowledge in a book, you kind of look inside 634 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.880 something like that. And I think that that's really the 635 00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:53.960 idea of true gnosticism in the first place. 636 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:57.280 It's gnosis. So that's crazy to me. 637 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.239 I mean, if the Kingdom of Heaven is with then 638 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.159 I'm not going there. You guys are fucking trying to 639 00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:03.840 pull me in. I'm not trying to go there right now. 640 00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:05.159 Not now. 641 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.400 I'm not trying to. Like I said, we can have 642 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.400 this conversation another day, doesn't have to be tonight. 643 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:12.599 Yeah, yeah, mam A Slaney said, I was just listening 644 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.199 to that episode I switched over to the live that 645 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:16.679 was about the Peristroika. 646 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:20.079 I believe, oh, word word, that was a fun episode. Actually, 647 00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.320 that was a very fun one. Spirit. 648 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:25.320 You know, a couple of good ones here lately. Man, 649 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:27.840 It's just these things have been falling into our lap. 650 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.239 I don't know if y'all have been paying attention to 651 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.280 the alien vibe that we have been on this week, 652 00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.480 but man, buckle up because who the one we did 653 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:37.960 today was a bit of a doucey. 654 00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:40.119 Oh yeah it was, dude, I tell you what. 655 00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:44.840 That that Griata Treaty episode that just came out, Holy shit, 656 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:46.920 that was one of my favorite episodes ever. 657 00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:52.480 Like that was just so much fun. Nick, did you did. 658 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.639 You check out the Griada Treaty or the Valiant Thorer episode? 659 00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:57.599 Yeah? Yeah, I finished both of them. 660 00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:01.960 No, I've been I've been loving you, especially go back 661 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:05.440 and forth on your where you're at with it all? Yeah, 662 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.079 to come finally full you back around and like some 663 00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:11.360 of the stuff that say it from the beginning, As of. 664 00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:13.719 This moment, do you still believe space is real? Jonathan, 665 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:15.880 I'm a worker inclined to believe that. I'm a work 666 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.360 in progress. I'm not a finished product. Okay, what's wearing? 667 00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.320 Ask as of this moment, as of time recording, because 668 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:25.639 very much subject to change, very much, so as of 669 00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:28.119 this moment, are you still kind of inclined to believe 670 00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.719 that space is real? Are you kind of swinging back 671 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:32.320 to the other side of the fence where yet I 672 00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:32.679 don't know. 673 00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:34.880 Don't damn me right now? 674 00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:36.800 What did it for me? 675 00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.920 Because I was I followed a similar path as Jonathan, 676 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:42.320 especially with the fighter stuff. For a little bit, it 677 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:44.800 was like it got me into like questioning, like really 678 00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:47.159 big shit, and I was like, okay, they're all into 679 00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:49.639 some shit. NASA's fucking lion for sure. And then I'm like, okay, 680 00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:53.519 well maybe not about everything. And then whenever I had 681 00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:57.599 my whole the Idian stuff happened, I'm like, where are 682 00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.960 you guys from And they're like right there and I'm like, okay, 683 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.559 well that's fucking somewhere. Then I know this is real. 684 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:05.800 All right, Well that's all I need to know. 685 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.360 Gotta tell you the one we did today, it will 686 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.559 be dropping Wednesday or Thursday. 687 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:11.079 Friday. 688 00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:13.639 Actually it's gonna be dropping Friday. So for any of 689 00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:15.599 the Patreon members, y'all are gonna get it as soon 690 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:17.559 as it's edited up. It will be a few days 691 00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:21.480 before the main population. But for anybody listening on Spotify, 692 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:25.719 oh my god, we did a very very comprehensive deep 693 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:28.280 dive on the Majestic twelve. I am not gonna give 694 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.000 away anything as of this moment. But I am going 695 00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:34.119 to say to brace for impact. It's not good and 696 00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.960 it does not actually take an uptick the entire time. 697 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.960 It is mind blowing to see how far the government's 698 00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:42.639 willing to go to fuck someone over. 699 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.559 Oh, and it's like the whole MJ twelve thing is 700 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:49.320 not what you think. Like that's the craziest part is that, 701 00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:51.559 you know, you want to believe that there's a secret 702 00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.719 sector of the government that is, you know, retrieving crashed 703 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:59.760 alien UFOs and picking up alien bodies and receiving transmissions 704 00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:02.800 and and all these crazy things, right, but then you 705 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.280 find out that like even dude, even that is swimming 706 00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.920 in a pool of shit. Yeah, Like it is the 707 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:12.119 craziest thing. It's so convoluted. And I'm not gonna lie. 708 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:16.000 That episode we did today about MJ twelve, that almost 709 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:19.079 that brought me back to I don't know, because anytime 710 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:23.280 you look at anything regarding aliens, it is so shrouded 711 00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:26.519 in bullshit, in secrecy. And you know what I mean, 712 00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:28.800 It's like, you got what's his name that was talking 713 00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:31.480 about valiant thor he's trying to bring the Bible into it, 714 00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:34.159 and the still no fucking. 715 00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:37.840 Clue how he segued from valiant Thor to the fucking 716 00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.440 dead Sea scrolls like it wasn't even like a smooth 717 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.199 transition of this clearly connects to this. He just fucking 718 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.360 pout and then did three altar calls in the middle 719 00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:47.960 of talking about a Nordic alien. 720 00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.599 I'm like, BROD, did I miss something? Am I high 721 00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:51.159 right now? Bro? 722 00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:54.320 Honestly, as you go to almost any UFO convention, I've 723 00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:56.239 never been to one. I would love too. I would 724 00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:57.639 love for both of us to go and check out 725 00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.760 a UFO convention. But I walk a lot of them, 726 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.400 like online and stuff like that. Usually they have them 727 00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:06.960 like over in Vegas or you know, around that way, 728 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.519 And dude, there's a lot of nuts over there. You 729 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:12.719 know what I'm saying, There's a lot of nutty people. 730 00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:14.360 And it's not to say that they're all full of 731 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.840 shit either, Like people really don't have off of Yeah, 732 00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:20.960 people really do have like alien experiences and they don't 733 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.039 know what to make of it. It's just trying to 734 00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:25.280 make understanding of it. And who are we to judge 735 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:27.719 about what's right and what's wrong because we can't get 736 00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.199 a single shred of fucking truth from the government I mean, 737 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:31.559 that's the last place you want to look at for 738 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:32.760 the for the truth. 739 00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:34.920 Right, Yeah, it's And that's the deal. 740 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:39.559 We're not calling anybody crazy or a crazy for believing 741 00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:42.639 anything they want to believe as far as extraterrestrials are concerned. 742 00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:43.480 Okay, not at all. 743 00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.760 What I am going to say is that without giving 744 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.280 anything away, because I really am excited for that episode 745 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:51.400 to drop and I would love to get everybody's feedback 746 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:55.280 on it when it does. The reason why everything is 747 00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:59.719 so convoluted and wrapped up in lies and bullshit and 748 00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.280 con cospiracy and everything else with aliens is because it 749 00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:07.079 was all designed to be wrapped up in controversy and lies, 750 00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.719 in conspiracy. It has nothing to do with the actual 751 00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:12.559 alien experience. It has everything to do with the way 752 00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:16.199 the story was spun before you ever first heard about it. 753 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:18.440 It's it's mind blowing. Everybody go check it out. 754 00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:20.320 Well, and that's the thing, that quote that you brought 755 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.559 up towards the end of the show from old CIA 756 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:24.960 director William Casey, where it's like, what was it? 757 00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:28.239 What was the quote? Again? When they believe nothing will know, 758 00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:29.119 We've done our job. 759 00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.880 And that's the entire point is that they want your 760 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.760 brain so scrambled so that way they can come in 761 00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.440 and bring you the quote unquote truth. 762 00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:41.320 It's it's mind blowing. Can't wait for that episode to drop. 763 00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:42.960 We'd love to read the comments after the fact. 764 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:44.079 But anyway, so. 765 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:50.199 Nick, you had mentioned that you before that episode, because 766 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:51.519 we said that we were going to do the Valiant 767 00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.320 Thor episode from the greata Treaty and you send a 768 00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:57.519 little excerpt on Valiant Thor. What are your thoughts on 769 00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.000 Valiant Thor in the first place, because it I understand 770 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.480 and how it could be seen as absolute malarchy, right, 771 00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:07.039 but then I also want to believe that, like maybe 772 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.440 he was just looking at it through that lens, you 773 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.400 know what I'm saying, Like, if we're trying to really 774 00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:13.000 get to the truth, you got to look at it 775 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:14.559 from different angles. 776 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:15.440 No, for sure. 777 00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:18.760 And like I wanted to bring up the day the 778 00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.360 Earth stood still that Jacob was talking about. 779 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:22.239 Have you seen the movies? 780 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:24.599 Oh, yeah, the black and white one and the one 781 00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:26.679 with Keanu. Yeah, I've never seen the old one. I 782 00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:28.559 saw the new one though, Yeah, same same. 783 00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.599 But it's basically the same story. The newer one has 784 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:31.480 way better graphics. 785 00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:35.039 Yeah, So from what I understand and why I again 786 00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.559 why I like the pleating information and I like to 787 00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:42.840 weigh stuff that I see against their information and stories, 788 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.239 because like there's been plenty of stuff where like they've 789 00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.800 said that's bullshit that never happened as well and that 790 00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:51.400 or like kind of in the public you know, domain, 791 00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.239 So like for me, I give a little bit of 792 00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:58.079 more credence to that. But from what I understand, the 793 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:03.360 Valiant thwor Thing was the first kind of iteration of 794 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.760 that day of the Earth stood still type event, right, 795 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.719 and then later on Q. I don't know if y'all 796 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:17.280 remember us doing that, that one with uh, what's your name? 797 00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:21.000 Who does all the Q stuff? Brook? 798 00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.920 Yeah, remember whenever we did the whole Q Pleadian connection 799 00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:30.000 with Brook. So the most recent iteration of another being 800 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:34.239 this one Q was like a Pleadian being working with 801 00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:38.199 the NSA and that whole operation and why there's like 802 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:40.159 all kinds of crazy connections and everything like that. The 803 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:44.519 impossible multi dimensionality of it was kind of in the 804 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.639 same realm as the valiant thwor thing and day the 805 00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:51.000 Earth should still thing and like trying to kind of 806 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.559 coordinate and help these better things happen for an ultimate 807 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:56.000 like better plan in the future. 808 00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.599 Yeah, And that's the thing is, like I don't want 809 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:03.920 to just look at one whole story and call it bullshit, 810 00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:07.039 because I believe that there's probably little remnants of truth 811 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:11.199 within all stories. It's just what perspective do you look 812 00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:13.599 at it from? If you only have one lens through 813 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.559 which you look at life and you're trying to apply 814 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:18.960 it to that, it's like, you know, you can understand 815 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.880 why that guy you know, was saying that, like, well, 816 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:25.960 you know this is he's essentially he kind of almost 817 00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:29.159 referenced him to like a Jesus being, like he was 818 00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:31.639 saying that without saying that, Yeah. 819 00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:35.360 That's perspective. Perspective is everything. 820 00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:38.320 Because in the movie Doday the Earth stood Still, the 821 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.400 Aliens thought that they were doing a very good thing 822 00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:43.519 to try to save this planet because there it's very 823 00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.039 difficult for a planet to be able to sustain life, 824 00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:48.239 and clearly we got to get rid of these parasites 825 00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:51.119 to keep tearing this shit up. So although the humans 826 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.719 saw them as an invasion force who were trying to 827 00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:56.159 wipe them all out, the Aliens saw it as they 828 00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:59.400 were doing something relatively negative for the greater good. 829 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:04.320 It's about that perspective, right, And Q actually quoted and 830 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.679 put a link to the video of the day that 831 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.000 or there's a Q drop that has a day of 832 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.360 the Earth stood still seen in it and it's where 833 00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.119 they're talking about like why He's like, why should I, 834 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.679 you know, not destroy you or whatever? And he's like, well, 835 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:21.000 did your species have a moment where like you were 836 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.119 about to and they were like, yeah, just on on 837 00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:26.079 the at the precipice, we found the will to change 838 00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:28.960 and we did it destroy ourselves. And then the human 839 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:30.480 guy he's like, well, that's where we're at. We have 840 00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.519 to we have to get to the precipice before we 841 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.360 all kind of like can be better. 842 00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:38.320 It's a good point. That was the that was the 843 00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:39.039 saving grace. 844 00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:41.119 He was like, so would you not allow us the 845 00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:44.480 same opportunity to rise to the occasion when we realized 846 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:45.960 that that's what time it is, and you saw the 847 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.360 alien's face, he's just like. 848 00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:49.679 Like you know what, Yeah, he didn't like it. 849 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.440 He was pissed about it, but he's like, damn it, homeboy, 850 00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:53.480 just lorded me good. 851 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:55.119 That's true. 852 00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.920 You know, sometimes you never really learnt to be your 853 00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:01.079 ship rock yeah, h so good. 854 00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:06.119 Not if well, it's like not a good ending, Like 855 00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.079 I am legend. If you guys have ever read the book, 856 00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:14.039 and yeah, the movie not the Charleston has the movie 857 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:15.719 Richard matheson, I am legend. 858 00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:18.480 It's like, yeah, let's say the movie is so much 859 00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:21.199 different than the book. The movie made him seem like 860 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:25.199 zombie figures that couldn't experience sunlight. Meanwhile, the book makes 861 00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:27.880 them like some kind of extra vampire being, and it's 862 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.840 it's it's so different. They did so much, but then 863 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.639 they also took a massive book and tried to condense it. 864 00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:36.800 Down to a two hour movie. So there's like a lot. 865 00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.320 Of was it I don't I don't think it was 866 00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:42.360 that big, maybe three hundred pages. It wasn't huge, but 867 00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.159 I mean, you know it was crazy because you know, 868 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:49.039 you're thinking, this is the protagonist, and then at the 869 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.840 very end, it's like, this is the person. He's the enemy, 870 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.440 he's the one killing us, We're the next evolution. 871 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.440 But it's not that the book was so dense, like 872 00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.719 a thousand pages, but the time it was over years 873 00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:03.119 and years and years and years, and they try to 874 00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.559 condense this down to like essentially a couple of weeks 875 00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.639 and it's like there's a lot of meat you're leaving 876 00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:09.360 on the grill on this one big dog. 877 00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:12.239 Oh yeah, definitely. I mean it's like Game of Thrones, HBO. 878 00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.400 I mean, yeah, you know, tuck on a thousand page book. 879 00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:19.199 What six hours not gonna work right exactly? 880 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.679 Anyway, a spirit animal? What are your thoughts there? 881 00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:25.199 Uh, that the movie is pretty good because if you 882 00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:28.119 notice that he figures out because he sees the mannequan 883 00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:31.480 gets moved, at least in the movie, that they are intelligent, 884 00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.599 that they're watching him. He that's why he started shooting 885 00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:35.239 in the buildings because he knows he's being watched, but 886 00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:35.920 he doesn't. 887 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:36.199 Know from where. 888 00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:42.400 And the vampires zombie looking motherfuckers. Uh, they look they're 889 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.800 more like politicians in my eyes, but blood such and parasites. 890 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.239 But they they they. 891 00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:51.920 View him as the as the evil one because there 892 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:56.199 because to them, they they they don't see themselves as infected. 893 00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.280 To them, they see each other pretty normal. But he's 894 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:03.320 immune to the thing. And it started out as a 895 00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:07.159 cure for cancer, but it ended up being mutated and 896 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.719 it fucked everybody else. It's kind of and the whole 897 00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:13.360 world got shut down a lot of when COVID started, 898 00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.800 I could say, huh, so we're gonna be living in 899 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:17.880 I am legend, get it. 900 00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:19.000 It's very possible. 901 00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:21.840 I hope that that doesn't happen, just for like, because 902 00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.159 I would like to see my children and grandchildren grow 903 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:25.480 up in a peaceful existence. 904 00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.519 But like, yeah, no, you ain't got to get ready 905 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:32.039 to stay ready. I mean, you take experimental government drugs. 906 00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:36.280 You know of the American public did so? 907 00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.559 I mean, shit, we'll see the next time some crazy 908 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:39.360 virus comes around. 909 00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:41.519 How many people get the JAB? Yeah I did? 910 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:47.599 Did you guys? I don't know. With Spotify and podcasts 911 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.480 like if you guys collaborate or whatever, like I listened 912 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.800 to the Daily Conspiracy podcast it's one of mine, and 913 00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:58.280 they were talking about and I really have not seen 914 00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:03.280 it in the news, but something about Russia developing a 915 00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:10.440 cancer vaccine based off of the COVID m RNA where 916 00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:13.559 they will take the cancer cells out, reprogram them, put 917 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:17.079 them back in. But it's very expensive. But I mean 918 00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:20.400 I was telling people about it, but it's like third 919 00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.159 page news or you just have to like really look 920 00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.119 it up. I don't know, I mean, speaking of I 921 00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:29.440 am legend, because yeah, that's what the movie cancer vaccine, right. 922 00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.800 And I think the problem with that is that most 923 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:35.320 people just don't trust Russia because of all the propaganda 924 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:39.280 and all of their propaganda that they're getting upon its 925 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:44.360 own citizens. You know, was Russia involved in interacting with 926 00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.239 our elections, whether it be to help Trump or to 927 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:50.320 herd Trump? And it's like, that's why I would believe 928 00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:54.199 that it would be like third page news, as you said, 929 00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:56.960 It's like, you know, what do you believe about it? 930 00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:59.559 Because there is a lot of bullshit that comes that's 931 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.559 always a attached to Russia, not necessarily even from Russia 932 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:05.480 all the time, but that's just like anytime there's propaganda, 933 00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:07.360 look for Russia and you'll know it, you know what 934 00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:07.760 I mean. 935 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.400 Especially these days because the way the media is spinning 936 00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.119 anything that comes out of Russia is clearly evil, right, 937 00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.920 And that's just the zeitgeist of it right now. But 938 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.360 to your point, Grayson, there are multiple labs across the 939 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:22.800 world that are doing a lot of work towards cancer. 940 00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.719 I remember, uh, what was it, the killer wasps, You'll 941 00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:28.039 remember hearing about that or the killer hornets whatever that was. 942 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:32.280 And then they discovered murder hornets. Yeah, murder hornets, that's 943 00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:34.760 the one. And then they discovered that their venom, if 944 00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:39.000 you injected directly into a cancer cell, would kill the tumor. Right, 945 00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:41.599 But somehow that's the only thing we heard about it. 946 00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:46.559 Uh there's all kinds of experiments and real groundbreaking research 947 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.280 being done in this realm, but we're only hearing snippets 948 00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:52.360 of information and then that's like the only thing you'll 949 00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.280 ever hear about it, even though there has been multiple 950 00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:58.360 studies with multiple levels of success and all the berries 951 00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.960 depending on patient to pati in case by case and 952 00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:04.039 type of cancer one hundred percent, But it's just stuff 953 00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.480 that we will never hear about. And there's a lot 954 00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.800 of conspiratorial reasons as to the while on that. 955 00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:13.320 Well, you're gonna make more money off the research and 956 00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:19.159 the you know, the tema emo whatever than the cure. 957 00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.000 You know, remember when you know two thousand and one, 958 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.760 two thousand and two, the whole anthrax thing and the 959 00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:30.199 drug that prevented it and Canada like basically pirated it 960 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:33.880 from Uh, I don't know. It was a big controversy. 961 00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:37.480 It would prevent anthracks and they're like, no, you're not 962 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:39.599 gonna have a patent on this. We're gonna violate it. 963 00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:40.760 Right exactly. 964 00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:46.000 Yeah, so oh interesting, Tony wrote, I think the Christian 965 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.400 belief that God is everywhere is a little bit similar 966 00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:53.639 to pantheism. Panpsychism is a similar concept, also compatible with Christianity, 967 00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.880 in my opinion. And I've looked up panpsychism before, but 968 00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:59.159 I never did a whole episode or anything on it. 969 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.559 I'll just read right here what panpsychicismism is. And I'm 970 00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.599 actually inclined to believe that this is probably pretty true too. 971 00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:08.559 And and I don't even think that they would be 972 00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:15.079 you know, intersecting necessarily, But panpsychism is uh. In philosophy 973 00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:18.320 of mind, panpsychism is the view that the mind or 974 00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:22.480 consciousness is a fundamental and ubiquitous feature of reality. It 975 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.039 is also described as a theory that the mind is 976 00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:28.559 a fundamental feature of the world which exists throughout the universe. 977 00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:31.360 It is one of the oldest philosophical theories and has 978 00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:36.639 been ascribed in some form to philosophers including Thales, Plato, Spinoza, 979 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:41.199 and many others. But man, and that's something that like, uh, 980 00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:46.679 what is it like within the the hermetic principles that 981 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:51.320 all is mind? It's you know, I'm how can you 982 00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:54.119 how can you just prove that you know what I'm saying? 983 00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:56.960 And like they got like certain scientists that are looking 984 00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:00.360 into matter and trying to figure out what's going on 985 00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:05.039 with matter and everything, and does does matter create consciousness 986 00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:08.079 or is it the other way around? And there's been 987 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:10.920 proof to say that consciousness comes before matter in the 988 00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:14.639 first place, which would prove I mean, and it's I 989 00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:17.679 don't know if you could disagree with it, because everybody here, 990 00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:22.320 well most people here would would suggest that your soul's 991 00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.639 living a human experience. So that would suggest that the 992 00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:28.199 soul came before the body, right, So panpsychism could be 993 00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:29.559 pretty damn close to the truth. 994 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:34.440 You ever seen fantastic be somewhere to find them? No, 995 00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:35.320 I haven't. 996 00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:39.800 Really Well, you know what, as much as huh I 997 00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.639 said careless, fair enough, fair. 998 00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:44.880 Enough, But as much as you give me shit about 999 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.599 not watching more of them movies, the fact that you're 1000 00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:49.239 not up to speed on the Potter verse is equally 1001 00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:50.320 egregious in my opinion. 1002 00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.400 But we haven't seen all of them. Actually, I haven't 1003 00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:56.360 seen the last two Harry Potters. What the Deathly Hallows 1004 00:52:56.400 --> 00:53:00.119 one and two? Like the literal best parts. I mean, 1005 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.599 and they look fun. It's just I didn't grow up 1006 00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:03.440 on that, you know. 1007 00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:04.119 They did. 1008 00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.239 I I grew up in a Bible belt household where 1009 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.039 my mom would have been one of the ones bitching 1010 00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:10.800 at the middle school for forcing us to read it. 1011 00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:10.719 I'm not. 1012 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:14.880 I'm not very impressed with Harry Potter because I believe 1013 00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:19.079 that that is not that's like, that's not real magic 1014 00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:21.159 at all. That's like not even close to what real 1015 00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:21.760 magic is. 1016 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:26.360 According to the writer, it is at least based off 1017 00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:27.599 of it. But that's that's how I'm going. 1018 00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:30.119 Nobody's shooting fucking lightning out of wands, bro, That's just 1019 00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:30.639 not real. 1020 00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:33.559 Ah, there are a lot of people that would disagree 1021 00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:34.440 with what you just said. 1022 00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:35.599 I would saying. 1023 00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:37.679 We literally just had a guy on the show that 1024 00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:39.239 talked about how magic wands are real. 1025 00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:43.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, used as a mental instrument. 1026 00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:46.599 Is that what he said? That's what That's what every 1027 00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:49.679 magician will tell you. I don't believe that's what he said. 1028 00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.000 Now, we didn't ask him about specifically shooting a bolt 1029 00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:53.159 of lightning out of a stick. 1030 00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:54.400 We didn't say that, but. 1031 00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:57.360 Yeah, it's these are not like physical things that are 1032 00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.039 actually happening. All of it is within your mind, and 1033 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.119 it's your mind is actually the battery to all of 1034 00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:05.880 these physical and all of these instruments, whether it is 1035 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:08.559 a wand or a sword, or a chalice or a shield, 1036 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:11.920 they're all just tools for your mind, every single one 1037 00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:12.679 of them. 1038 00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:14.280 That's not what he said. 1039 00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:16.719 But also that's neither here nor there to the point 1040 00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:18.519 I'm trying to make as far as like the mind 1041 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.039 and how the soul predates the body and all these things, 1042 00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:24.440 I'm with you, Okay. There's a part in Fantastic Beasts 1043 00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:27.239 where one of the main characters, a little, short, fat 1044 00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:30.280 guy who's complete muggle, complete human, nothing to do with 1045 00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:36.039 the wizarding world whatsoever, gets brought into New Greenkirch's briefcase basically, 1046 00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.360 and he gets seen. He sees all these animals and 1047 00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.320 these fantastic beasts and all these things, and up until 1048 00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:43.559 this point he's kind of thinking that he's dreaming, right, 1049 00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:44.679 magic and all this shit. 1050 00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:46.199 Yeah, clearly, I'm just hallucinating. 1051 00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:48.039 I'm just I'm having a really bad day and my 1052 00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:49.039 mind's playing tricks on me. 1053 00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:49.400 Whatever. 1054 00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:51.400 And then he goes there and he's like, you know what, 1055 00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:53.800 I'm convinced that this is real. He's like, oh yeah, 1056 00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.079 why is that? He's like, because I ain't smart enough 1057 00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.280 to create all of this shit in my imagination. I mean, 1058 00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:01.679 it's mo the lines of what I believe most human 1059 00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:02.599 beings line up with. 1060 00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:05.320 And I know you're not somebody that dreams very often, 1061 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:09.000 but I've created some really fantastical dreams in my mind, 1062 00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:12.000 and I would in that dream, I would say, there's 1063 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:16.000 no way I created this. This place is too sick. Meanwhile, 1064 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:18.079 it's all created in my mind, you know what I mean. 1065 00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:21.039 So you could argue that six Ways of Sunday really fairpoint, 1066 00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:25.880 that's what God's doing with this exactly. Oh Man and 1067 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:29.079 Grayson pulled up something Giants Fallen Angels, Nephelm. 1068 00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:30.199 You guys have covered this a lot. 1069 00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:35.880 This is something that I've really been contemplating, only because 1070 00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:39.239 I love looking at the gnostic rama thought and even 1071 00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.239 beyond Gnosticism, because I don't look to any one book 1072 00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:43.079 for absolute truth. 1073 00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:43.760 That's just not me. 1074 00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:45.679 I like to take all of it. I'm a bit 1075 00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:47.800 more of an eclectic in that sense. But I was 1076 00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:50.719 thinking about it, dude, and if you really think about it, 1077 00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:54.719 like I think that all humans are fallen angels. Like 1078 00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:58.800 I think that we're the representation of the Nephilim if 1079 00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:03.239 you really think about it. So let me let me 1080 00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:06.519 just take your fancy here for a second. I think 1081 00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.679 that it's an allegory for humanity and and just let 1082 00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:10.679 me take your fancy. 1083 00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:11.000 Here for a second. 1084 00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:12.000 All right. 1085 00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:16.280 The Bible doesn't mention or and I'm only sticking to 1086 00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:19.199 the Bible because it's fallen angels Nephlim. It's a biblical thing, right. 1087 00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.679 The Asulters have giants in their stories. For the record, 1088 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:24.559 you don't have to go biblical with this. 1089 00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:26.599 Well, I mean we were talking about fallen angels and 1090 00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:28.559 nephlem also though that's a biblical thing. 1091 00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:35.119 Jacob, what about Isla. Do they have legends of giants 1092 00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:38.159 or is that jin So they have. 1093 00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:41.280 Both, they have both. You gotta understand. 1094 00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:44.000 The Quran took the Torah, which is the first five 1095 00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:46.440 books of the Bible where the nephelo are talked about, 1096 00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:50.719 and they implemented that into the Quran. They changed a 1097 00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.360 few things around, so where like Adam isn't just Adam, 1098 00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.760 he's the prophet Adam and the prophet Moses and the 1099 00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:59.360 prophet Noah and every guy or of mention of worth is. 1100 00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:02.559 The prophet dot dot. So like they did small little 1101 00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:04.559 tweaks and made everything very Islamic. 1102 00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:07.280 But the Torah itself, the first five books of the Bible, 1103 00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.639 first five books of the of the Judaic tradition is 1104 00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:12.519 also in the Quran as well. So yes, they do 1105 00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.719 believe in giants, but as far as demonic entities are concerned, 1106 00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:18.039 they call those gin. But when you look at them 1107 00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:20.360 neck and neck. As far as the characteristics and attributes 1108 00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:24.280 and everything, demon and gin are pretty much the same entity, 1109 00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:26.400 being called by a different name, like. 1110 00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:31.119 With Solomon and Solomon's ring. And is that in the 1111 00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:36.039 Koran or I don't know. I mean, I have a 1112 00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:37.800 copy of it, but I haven't read it in. 1113 00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.960 A while, so not exactly they make mention, I want 1114 00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:42.639 to say, they make mention of Solomon, but it's not 1115 00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.079 like they talk about his entire story by any means. 1116 00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:50.800 They make reference to the nation of Judea, right, but 1117 00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:53.760 it's not referenced necessarily in a positive light. 1118 00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:55.719 So they started tweaking things. 1119 00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:57.639 The only things that I can say are like pretty 1120 00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:01.239 much copy and pasted with some very very very slight differences. 1121 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:02.880 Is the first five Books of the Bible. 1122 00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:05.519 As you go into the rest of the Old Testament, 1123 00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.719 they kind of go off the beaten path because Mohammed 1124 00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:11.960 couldn't read or write. He was not classically trained or educated, 1125 00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:14.559 and he was getting stories from word of mouth and 1126 00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:17.480 oral traditions on the Silk Road, which is why there's 1127 00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:21.239 references to Mythraism, while there's references to Gnosticism, while there's 1128 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:25.519 references to certain Judeo Christian ideologies. But there's like some 1129 00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:29.440 very deep twists and tangles that are thrown in. There's 1130 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:33.679 not it's not a very well put together book. 1131 00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:38.199 I'll say that much, right, right, No, and thank you 1132 00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:41.639 for the enlightenment on that. I mean, I but yeah, 1133 00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:44.559 I thought jen somebody was asking me about that. But Jonathan, 1134 00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:47.599 go ahead, I'm sorry to interrupt. No, You're good to give. 1135 00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:50.320 Me a little bit more time to think. So the 1136 00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:53.719 idea behind this is just a theory. And I'm all, dude, 1137 00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:58.880 I am. I I literally obsess about every spiritual story 1138 00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.239 in an allegorical sense, like it's just how my mind 1139 00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:05.039 has been wired over the past couple of years. But 1140 00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:08.079 whenever I think about, you know, could we have been 1141 00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:11.079 the fallen angels? If you think about it, like the 1142 00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:13.880 fallen angels, they were in God's realm and then they 1143 00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:17.840 fell into material reality, right, they became you know, the 1144 00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:19.840 Bible says that you should be in this world, but 1145 00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:22.199 not of this world. And if you look at it, 1146 00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:27.480 the fallen angels descended into material, physical reality and succumb 1147 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:29.079 to the physical. 1148 00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:32.239 Things, you know what I mean, Like whether it. 1149 00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:36.159 Was deceit or uh, sex or you know whatever, it's 1150 00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:39.960 always about. It's always been about like becoming more of 1151 00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:43.199 this world. And I think that that's the nature of 1152 00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:45.039 go ahead. 1153 00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:47.760 What about Adam and e though, I mean that was. 1154 00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:48.599 Probably the first time. 1155 00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:56.719 I mean, yeah, they didn't fall. I mean that was 1156 00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:58.480 God's creation on Earth. 1157 00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:02.079 I mean from Eden essentially. Yeah, it fell from Eden. 1158 01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:04.559 But Eden was a place on this planet that wasn't 1159 01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:05.559 like an ethereal place. 1160 01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:08.480 It was at the point huh. 1161 01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:11.159 Nowhere does it says that Eden was on this planet. 1162 01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:12.920 It does as a matter of fact. 1163 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.079 It was where the tigers and the Euphrates meet, and 1164 01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:17.400 there were two other ancient rivers that met at this point. 1165 01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:19.599 There was four rivers that met at one spot, and 1166 01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:21.280 that was the location of the Garden of Eden. 1167 01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:23.320 Everybody would have found. 1168 01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:25.360 If that's true, then everybody would agree upon that, and 1169 01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:25.960 nobody does. 1170 01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:29.119 That's crazy that they don't agree upon it. They need 1171 01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:30.360 to read a fucking book. 1172 01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:33.719 In Iraq, I thought, or near Iraq. 1173 01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:36.320 It's near that area, yes, But that's also why that 1174 01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:38.440 area the Garden of Eden, if we are to believe 1175 01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:41.280 the story was like this lush of vegetation, all these things, 1176 01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:43.840 and once they were kicked out of it, that's why 1177 01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:47.000 that area is a barren desert these days. I mean, yes, 1178 01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:49.400 Iraq does have its green areas. I'm not saying that 1179 01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:52.320 there's no farm land or nothing like that, but nothing 1180 01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:54.519 near the realm that was described in the Garden of Eden. 1181 01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:57.880 But like, again we're talking about ancient, ancient, ancient sources. 1182 01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.159 The two other rivers that flowed and met at the 1183 01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:04.320 Tiger seen euphrates, they have been dried up for thousands 1184 01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:06.320 of years and I don't mean two like I mean 1185 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:09.159 I'll be thousands and thousands of years. So yeah, it's 1186 01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:11.840 a that's the thing. People don't want to look at 1187 01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:14.840 the source material. That's fine, and like people want to disagree, 1188 01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:16.480 and that's cool too, and I'm not I'm not trying 1189 01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:18.960 to like be a dick on that, but like, yeah, 1190 01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:22.000 that's that's pretty much an understood thing. That was where 1191 01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.960 God would dwell on the earth, and that's also written 1192 01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:27.199 about in the Quran and the Torah. 1193 01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:27.559 And the Bible. 1194 01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:30.199 So yes, we were talking about a physical place where 1195 01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:33.559 God would physically walk with physical feet on the physical earth. 1196 01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.559 Yeah, that's ridiculous to me personally, Like that is the 1197 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:38.960 most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. 1198 01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:41.119 I understand that's that's fine. 1199 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:44.719 Yeah, but anyway, Yeah, just to wrap it up, I 1200 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.280 just I'm not even saying that I necessarily believe this, 1201 01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:49.800 but I think that a lot of humans nowadays are 1202 01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:53.360 succumbing to this physical material reality and falling even further 1203 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:57.360 and further and further away from our divine or godly 1204 01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:01.599 nature or whatever, Which would make sense if there were 1205 01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:03.719 angels that were in the realm of God and then 1206 01:02:03.719 --> 01:02:05.719 they eventually fell down. Here, I'm just saying on an 1207 01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:11.559 allegorical similarity sense, it's it's it's at least similar because 1208 01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:14.159 if you look at all of the ancients, they'll all 1209 01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:17.599 talk about this, whether you look into Hinduism, Buddhism, literally 1210 01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:20.239 all over the place, they all talk about raising your 1211 01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:24.280 consciousness and trying to essentially become one back with God, 1212 01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:29.000 and people are not doing that. People are too too 1213 01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:31.840 interested in you know, as what was his name? That 1214 01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.679 was Oh, that was on a Meta Mysteries episode. He 1215 01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.320 was talking about like everybody's too obsessed with just subscribing 1216 01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:39.920 to everybody's only fans with them bitches showing their buttholes 1217 01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:44.199 and stuff like that. But but I don't know, It's 1218 01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:46.079 just a theory. It's just something that I like to 1219 01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:50.039 play with. I'm not necessarily attached to any singular belief 1220 01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:50.280 on that. 1221 01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:51.599 But anyway, well I. 1222 01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:54.039 Said earlier, when it comes to allegory, I like to 1223 01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:57.840 stick to Dante Aligary and his Divine Comedy and the 1224 01:02:57.880 --> 01:02:58.760 fanfic that it was. 1225 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:00.199 I find it to be very interesting. 1226 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.079 I don't think that it's a source, and I don't 1227 01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:04.960 think that that's what Hell actually looks like, or Purgatory 1228 01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:07.239 or Heaven. But I do look at it as the 1229 01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:11.280 allegorical story about what somebody during the Renaissance would think 1230 01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:14.639 about these places, based off of the culture at that time. 1231 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:17.320 But sure, I mean, but even Dante alle Gary was 1232 01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:18.679 not the first person to come up with an. 1233 01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:22.000 Allegory, you know, that's what it's named after. 1234 01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:26.000 I'm okay, that's the time that it probably got named. 1235 01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.559 But surely that wasn't the very first time Jesus spoke 1236 01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:31.639 in parables. You could easily call that an allegory. 1237 01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:33.679 Is a parable, an allegory. 1238 01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:36.800 Essentially, a parable is a story to teach you a lesson, 1239 01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:39.239 and allegory is kind of open to the interpreter. 1240 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:41.400 Parables are not meant to be so, or at least 1241 01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:42.440 not in that context. 1242 01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:46.599 What if you don't understand the parable. 1243 01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:48.719 Well, I mean, what I'm saying is is that the 1244 01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:51.760 the parable is usually to give you the meat of 1245 01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:55.719 whatever this whatever the story is, right, An allegory is 1246 01:03:55.800 --> 01:04:01.239 just it's almost like a a synonym. Okay, So the 1247 01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:04.119 Three Little Pigs, that is a story, right, That is 1248 01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:06.639 a parable, sure, and there is a lesson to be 1249 01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:09.239 learned from this story. I would say that is not 1250 01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:12.559 an allegorical story, because there is a lesson. And if 1251 01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:15.000 your lesson from it is that I should just build 1252 01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:16.960 a house out of bricks. Fuck the whole straw thing, 1253 01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:20.159 then you miss the fucking point. That's that's not that 1254 01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:21.960 didn't inherently make it allegorical. 1255 01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:23.679 That makes you unwise. 1256 01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:25.880 I feel like we're getting too nitty gritty. But my 1257 01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:30.239 point is is that that's I don't know, spirit animal. 1258 01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:33.239 Come save me, brother, because I'm fucking I'm drowning over here. 1259 01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:33.679 Dude. 1260 01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:38.079 Well, I thought Dante was like really really it was 1261 01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:43.519 an allegory. It was satire almost about his hatred towards 1262 01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:46.880 the you know, the Italian government, what was going on, 1263 01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:51.599 because he references a lot of politicians that were long 1264 01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:54.760 dead and they're like burning in this level or that 1265 01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:55.599 level or this. 1266 01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:57.880 Yeah level, I mean it was and there's a lot 1267 01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:03.119 of references. Go ahead, the shocking thing from and I've 1268 01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:08.039 read it, you know it, you know, translated into you know, English, 1269 01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:11.280 So I don't think you're getting everything, but you know, 1270 01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:12.159 on the gates of. 1271 01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:15.960 Hell, abandon all hope he who enters here. I mean, 1272 01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:19.519 that is the most frightening phrase I've ever heard in 1273 01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:19.880 my life. 1274 01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:22.199 Yeah, and that's what I mean. It was satire for 1275 01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:24.559 the day and age. But then there was also allegorical 1276 01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:29.480 references to at this level he saw centaurs and ship 1277 01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:33.159 and at this level he saw pagan deities, he saw Heracles, 1278 01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.480 he saw Poseidon in hell, and it's like, Okay. 1279 01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:39.360 It was his who was his guide? I forget, uh 1280 01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:43.920 at which point the whole time it was that the one. 1281 01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:45.679 He had one guy through hell, he had one guy 1282 01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:47.599 through purgatory, and then he had one guy through heaven. 1283 01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:50.000 I'm talking about hell. 1284 01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:53.000 Oh shit, it's been a while since I read that 1285 01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:56.320 the cantoes of the of the Divine Purgatory. 1286 01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:58.000 But you know, anyway, anyway, I. 1287 01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:08.800 Want to say Virgil Virgil, Yes, yes, eight dollars jeopardy. 1288 01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:11.159 Yes, indeed, Sam, your handsman, raised brother, what you got? 1289 01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:16.840 It was about Dante actually, so it was a it 1290 01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:21.559 was an illusion allegory to about the political re climate 1291 01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:24.840 of everything, because he got sint he got sin away, 1292 01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:29.639 he got put in exile, and even though well, uh 1293 01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:31.480 if I'm not gonna saying he got sitting in exile 1294 01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:34.519 partly due because of the chick that he was. 1295 01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:36.239 He was in love with, she was supposed to be 1296 01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:37.800 betrothed to another man and all. 1297 01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:45.440 Yeah, and but even communicated, No, he got sit in exile. 1298 01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.039 He did, he didn't communicated. 1299 01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:57.679 Okay, yeah, yeah, it's a there's also another allegori. Let's 1300 01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:01.480 call it letter. Oh no, uh, it's not the skull. 1301 01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:06.519 It's the one that has the Crucibles, the one I'm 1302 01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:10.519 talking about. What it's about the Salem Witch Trials and everything. Yeah, 1303 01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:12.480 that's also an allegory too. 1304 01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:15.559 Right, well, I mean, but that's one of the ones 1305 01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:20.039 where there are references to historical figures that absolutely were 1306 01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:23.159 a part of the Salem Witch Trials. Famously, Giles Corey 1307 01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:27.719 right was one of the John Proctor, Reverend Hale. These 1308 01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:31.280 were physical, real life, historical people that were in the 1309 01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.920 town of Salem during the time of these trials. Now, 1310 01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:38.960 all the ins and outs and the story arc of 1311 01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:40.800 it all is that exactly as it was. 1312 01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:43.159 There's a little bit of embellishment, there's a little bit 1313 01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.119 of some storytelling being done there. 1314 01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:48.679 But yes, there were historical figures and things like that, which, yeah, 1315 01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:52.519 the Crucible is also a very very interesting time piece 1316 01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:54.679 if you will, to get the culture of the day 1317 01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:55.719 and age that took place. 1318 01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:58.760 So the funny thing is, I'm the reason why the 1319 01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:05.280 entire cast like the Crucible, the scart letter and Beowolf 1320 01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:08.880 and British literature. I'm the reason why my group, my class, 1321 01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:12.880 not a single person uh got blow a eighty nine. 1322 01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:14.840 And while I was because. 1323 01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:17.359 I talked it better to I was a ninth grade 1324 01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:17.920 I was teaching that. 1325 01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:21.640 The twelfth graders better than the actual teacher was. I 1326 01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:22.600 got in trouble for it. 1327 01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:24.760 BeO Wolf is an awesome story too. 1328 01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:26.760 Teachers don't like whenever you show them up. 1329 01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:29.800 I also kind of proved. 1330 01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:32.880 I got hit in the head one time with the 1331 01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:35.319 textbook by the teacher because I proved that the textbook 1332 01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:39.840 was wrong. Because uh yeah, because in the textbook it 1333 01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:43.520 said that the theory of gravity was not a theory, 1334 01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:45.960 was fact. And I'm like, but that that's actually wrong. 1335 01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:48.800 It's a theory and everything. And I even proved so 1336 01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:51.840 like they even showed that it's a theory. And I 1337 01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:53.880 got in trouble because I would finish all my my 1338 01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:56.520 work and everything within like the first twenty minutes of class. 1339 01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:58.520 Everybody else will take a long time. 1340 01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:00.720 But so I'd break out my Bible and read, and 1341 01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:02.199 she took the Bible for me and hit me with 1342 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:05.199 it and said that she doesn't want the fake books 1343 01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:05.960 in the task. 1344 01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:09.760 Oh damn, oh man in the Bible belt. Now that's 1345 01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:11.640 a bold fucking move there, miss teaching. 1346 01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:15.840 And she also doubled as our English teacher, and she 1347 01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:17.640 would tell me my name is spelled wrong, and that 1348 01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:20.159 my mother was a dumb hic and everything because my 1349 01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:25.840 name is sa m u al not eale and wow, I. 1350 01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:32.239 Mean Shafid's mom would disagree with that, right. I did 1351 01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:34.439 want to, you know, kind of back up what I 1352 01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:38.159 was saying, though, So the idea from the allegory does 1353 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:41.359 not come from Dante. Aligary. That's actually what most people think, 1354 01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:46.199 but it's not true. So it says Dante, who made 1355 01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:49.840 the Divine Comedy in the early early fourteenth century, made 1356 01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:53.680 allegory famous in medieval literature because he consciously used it 1357 01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:57.840 as a framework his journey through Hell, purgatory, and Paradise, 1358 01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:00.720 symbolizing the soul's path to God. But the term and 1359 01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:05.840 literary UH and literary technique were already well established in 1360 01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:10.600 classical rhetoric used by Plato, Cicero, and Augustine, and in 1361 01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:15.319 biblical interpretation. UH such as allegorical readings of scripture were 1362 01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:19.680 standard in early Christianity. So Dante didn't invent allegory or 1363 01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:21.800 the word itself. He just became one of the most 1364 01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:24.159 influential practitioners in medieval literature. 1365 01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:25.680 I was wrong. 1366 01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:28.840 I honestly thought that. Yeah, like what an allegory is. 1367 01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:31.479 I thought it was just called by another name before Dante, 1368 01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:35.279 like the the conversation of an allegory has been around 1369 01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:37.159 since the ancients, but I thought maybe they just called 1370 01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:37.760 it something else. 1371 01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:39.359 I mean, it is it is crazy. 1372 01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:42.239 I mean you would think that, right, because, I mean 1373 01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:45.319 the names are so similar with allegary and allegory. 1374 01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:48.439 It's I could see why you'd think that. So it's 1375 01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:51.319 proven wrong on this day. Good shit, God, that just 1376 01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:53.119 makes me rock hard. Every time I hear that. 1377 01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:57.199 Context makes me breacked up. You proving me wrong gets 1378 01:10:57.239 --> 01:10:59.680 you breacked up. We have weird kinks. Y'all leave us alone. 1379 01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:00.479 We did we do? 1380 01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:03.399 Getting back over to the chat, white boy Wizard said 1381 01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:11.000 hashtag demiurge gang. Okay, okay, oh yeah, oh HP house 1382 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:12.439 Zombie what it do? 1383 01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:17.680 I have a quick question that's not on topic, but 1384 01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:21.720 even like on the Kick about Words lately, Jonathan and 1385 01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:25.600 I was having a conversation about names specifically, do you 1386 01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:29.520 think that names have meaning? And if so, do you 1387 01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:32.760 think that if people name children after gods, like, are 1388 01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:35.399 they inherent to have those traits? It was a conversation 1389 01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:36.199 I was having tonight. 1390 01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:39.760 Oh that's an I would think personally, I think that 1391 01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:43.640 all words have meaning, and all words are essentially spells. 1392 01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:46.600 That was actually one of our earliest episodes, and I 1393 01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:49.000 think that it's not even so much necessarily about the 1394 01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:52.560 name as much as it is the vibration of the 1395 01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:57.119 rhythm of the sound that is coming from you know, 1396 01:11:57.279 --> 01:12:00.399 your body, that is entering into the air, and how. 1397 01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:01.479 It's perceptive to everybody. 1398 01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:04.079 And that's why, like, if you look at all the angels, 1399 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:07.039 they all end in L right like, and that's said 1400 01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:09.479 to be like godly or something like that. But I 1401 01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:11.680 think that, you know, there's probably a little bit of 1402 01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:13.560 something to that. I'm not gonna sit here and say 1403 01:12:13.560 --> 01:12:18.439 that every gardener named Hayeseus has healing abilities, but I 1404 01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:19.880 think that that's. 1405 01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:22.159 Could be wishful thinking. 1406 01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:26.920 You know, I could hear a line of thought to 1407 01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:29.920 say that that's how this goes, But I gotta be honest. 1408 01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:31.279 The entire theory. 1409 01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:35.119 Behind a boy named Sue would argue against that, right 1410 01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:38.520 because if you name your boy something super girly and 1411 01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:39.960 it makes them extra tough. 1412 01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:42.039 In the reverb of that, that. 1413 01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:46.119 Didn't make this guy no named Stacy. It didn't make 1414 01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:47.319 him any more of a bitch. 1415 01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:49.359 If anything. It made him a hard fucking knock. Well 1416 01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:52.680 are like made up nowadays too, you know what I mean. 1417 01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:59.119 There's like eighteen different ways to spell Meghan, and I'm 1418 01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:02.960 fucking over. Okay, there's no reason why a Z should 1419 01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:03.880 be in the name Megan. 1420 01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:06.359 This is what the fuck are we talking about here, dude. 1421 01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:10.239 I'm literally I'm watching White women are doing some wild 1422 01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:12.640 ship with names these days, and it's not just white women. 1423 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:15.840 But when it comes to like, oh, this is Britney spelled. 1424 01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:15.840 With a Q. 1425 01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:17.920 Where the fuck did a Q come from? And the 1426 01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:20.239 name Brittany, what the what are we talking about here? 1427 01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:20.520 Dude? 1428 01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:23.479 You're trying to be oh so original, but you're naming 1429 01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:26.640 her a basic ass name but trying to spell it original. Meanwhile, 1430 01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:28.880 you're making it hell on anybody who ever reads this 1431 01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:29.960 chick's name aloud. 1432 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:33.680 It's annoying, right, Yeah, the uh, I'm like a reject, 1433 01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:35.720 And so I go back and watch old seasons of 1434 01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:39.319 Big Brother, and there's the one season that I'm watching 1435 01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:42.840 right now is uh there's a girl who's actually from 1436 01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:46.000 uh nixt part of the woods over at College Station 1437 01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:49.800 and her name is Mackenzie, right, But and that's my 1438 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:52.159 daughter's name. I'm of the realm of thought that I 1439 01:13:52.319 --> 01:13:55.439 spelled my daughter's name the exact correct way m A 1440 01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:58.239 c k E n z i z m A c 1441 01:13:58.439 --> 01:14:00.840 k E n z i E. He spelled at m 1442 01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:04.439 A c or m A k E n s Y. 1443 01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:06.920 And I was like, that is the most atrocious thing 1444 01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:08.680 I've ever seen in my life. 1445 01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:10.239 It's mind blowing. You know. 1446 01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:14.880 Listen, I'm all about people naming their children original things, right, 1447 01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:17.520 I'm all about it. I'm also all about keeping certain 1448 01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:19.439 names in the family. Okay, I'm not gonna I'm not 1449 01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:22.239 gonna shit on somebody for that. What I am gonna 1450 01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:24.800 say is if you are going if it's a family 1451 01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:27.800 name that is spelled in a very u specific way 1452 01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:30.199 or something like that, then fine, do you Okay? If 1453 01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:33.159 that's what If you had a great grandmother that was 1454 01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:36.119 named this thing and spelled this way, then like, all right, 1455 01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:37.479 how am I gonna. 1456 01:14:37.239 --> 01:14:38.600 Say anything against This's cool? 1457 01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:41.239 But for the majority, if you're going to name your 1458 01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:44.760 child something that is already a very popular name in 1459 01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:48.720 the world, just go with the easiest spelling. Let's Akham's 1460 01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:51.880 razor this bitch and cut out all of this foolishness. 1461 01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:53.720 I think, you know, just looking at the names though, 1462 01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:58.560 I I I think that that they're almost like heavenly 1463 01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:01.680 tied to us in a sense, you know, like that's 1464 01:15:01.680 --> 01:15:03.640 why they say it's like your Christian name or whatever. 1465 01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:08.079 But I think that everybody's name, it's almost like it 1466 01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:10.760 was written in the stars before we were ever even 1467 01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:13.279 here in a sense. So I think that there's a 1468 01:15:13.319 --> 01:15:16.039 reason why we have our names, you know, I mean 1469 01:15:16.119 --> 01:15:18.479 outside of just you know, my mom named me from 1470 01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:20.680 one of her soap opera shows, right. 1471 01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:23.239 Like my brother was named after the codesteer from Step 1472 01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:23.840 by Step. 1473 01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.199 The only reason why my brother's name is Cody day 1474 01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:28.039 by Day. 1475 01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:32.079 Yeah, dude, Yeah, it's a I don't know that that's 1476 01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:34.479 something interesting to look into, but if you look it up, 1477 01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:36.279 I mean, everybody's looked up with the meaning of their 1478 01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:42.239 name is like and and I have a very popular 1479 01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:45.119 kind of definition as to what my name means. It 1480 01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:48.479 means God's gift. But then you find like there's like 1481 01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:51.479 a thousand other names that also means God's gift, you know. 1482 01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:54.760 Right, or gift from God or something close to. Yeah, 1483 01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:57.000 I'm with you, Yeah, zombie. 1484 01:15:56.520 --> 01:16:00.920 You got John and Jacob so we got some apostle names, 1485 01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:02.399 so tell. 1486 01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:03.680 Me how that works out, didn't it well? 1487 01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:06.359 And then there was that one awesome angel Jonathan to 1488 01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:08.279 just come and Slagh Demons. 1489 01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:12.560 Dude, you know he was a solid, jint, solid guy. 1490 01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:17.800 My name was supposed to be gray Stone, so g 1491 01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:21.960 R E Y S T O n E. It was 1492 01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:23.560 my grandfather's middle name. 1493 01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:25.720 That's solid. That's a solid name. 1494 01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:33.000 But but you gotta think about it. So Grayson and 1495 01:16:33.279 --> 01:16:36.880 kids are evil in elementary school? So what do you 1496 01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:37.840 think I got called? 1497 01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:44.000 The way that my name is spelled? People used to 1498 01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:45.720 say jonathong, So. 1499 01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:49.359 You know, I didn't know how your name was spelled 1500 01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:50.560 until this fucking year. 1501 01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:52.800 I thought it was Jonathan. It's jonathone. 1502 01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:55.720 You've literally seen it every single day for the past 1503 01:16:55.840 --> 01:17:00.039 five years on this every fucking day for five years, 1504 01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:02.840 and I've never actually read it because I think I 1505 01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:04.439 know how Jonathan is spelled. 1506 01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:06.319 Come on, but it's like, fuck, there's other ways of 1507 01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:07.560 spelling this shit too, dude. 1508 01:17:08.199 --> 01:17:09.800 En Jonathan's with the H in the bitch. 1509 01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:13.439 Jacob fucked up my name on our tax paperwork. 1510 01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:15.039 And I was like, are you kidding me? 1511 01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:17.239 We're trying to create this LLC so that we can 1512 01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:19.760 be legit and everything. And he's writing down my name 1513 01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:22.079 with a fucking a N and then like our tax 1514 01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:24.560 guy's just like, well, hopefully kapital Wan doesn't you know, 1515 01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:25.159 find that out. 1516 01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:28.239 And I'm like, yeah right, it's plays to me on 1517 01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:33.720 that one. And I'm like, I fucking my bad shit, Tommie, 1518 01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:34.399 go ahead. 1519 01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:39.560 I think there's something too, uh Like I don't know. 1520 01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:42.159 It's not I can just speak for as a woman, 1521 01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:45.399 but like I like, I don't know. I had different 1522 01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:47.840 names for my kids and then I don't know where 1523 01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:51.199 it like resonated with me, like specific names. And I've 1524 01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:53.760 heard other women say that they like they dream their names, 1525 01:17:53.800 --> 01:17:55.680 they know the names, like it comes to them. They 1526 01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:59.640 change their names last second, like women do like suddenly, 1527 01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:02.359 like you know, this name no longer fits this child, 1528 01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:05.279 like as soon as they give birth, or like never mind, 1529 01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:08.000 like this this just doesn't feel right. I think that's 1530 01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:09.720 I don't know. I think it's something to. 1531 01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:10.640 It for me. 1532 01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:13.520 I'll tell you, actually, both of mine and there might 1533 01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:15.359 actually be something to this. I'm happy you brought this 1534 01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:19.560 up because it makes you think, like you know, so 1535 01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:22.000 my kids, both of my names, both of my kids' 1536 01:18:22.079 --> 01:18:24.560 names are named after Green Bay Packers because I grew 1537 01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:26.159 up like worshiping the Packers. 1538 01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:26.439 Right. 1539 01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:30.039 There was this one football player named Mike Mackenzie and 1540 01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:32.000 he played defense for the Packers, and I always thought 1541 01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:34.800 Mackenzie was just a sick ass name, right. And then 1542 01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:38.640 my son named after the fucking greatest quarterback of all time, 1543 01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:42.239 Brett Farv named him Brett. And I think that in 1544 01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:44.359 just to get a little weird here, if you think 1545 01:18:44.439 --> 01:18:47.520 back to like your childhood, that's whenever you are almost 1546 01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:50.199 looking up to these people like idols, like gods in 1547 01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:54.920 a sense, right, Like I would fucking worship Favre Dude. 1548 01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:56.479 I like, if I was ever to meet him, I'd 1549 01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:59.920 probably fame even still to this day. But I just 1550 01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:03.039 think back to all those times of watching you know, 1551 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:05.920 Monday night football and seeing the Packers versus the Vikings 1552 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:08.119 or whatever, right, and I would just be glued to 1553 01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:11.560 the TV and so much, so much energy and emotion 1554 01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:15.159 was invested into that. And I almost wonder that if 1555 01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:17.359 the names that I name my kids as a result 1556 01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:21.319 of that, that energy is somehow attached to that, you 1557 01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:23.840 know what I mean? Like maybe I don't know, just 1558 01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:26.119 getting real weird here, But if you think about it, 1559 01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:30.079 like if everybody names their kid for like meaningful things, 1560 01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:32.279 and some people probably like, oh dude, you named your 1561 01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:34.960 kid after Packers. That's so lame or whatever, right, But 1562 01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:37.600 if you really think about it, that's what was important 1563 01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:40.159 to me as a kid, you know. And everybody has 1564 01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:42.039 their reason for why they want to name their kids 1565 01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:44.319 certain things, so maybe there's a little bit of that 1566 01:19:44.439 --> 01:19:47.439 energy connected to it too. I'm not judging you for 1567 01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:51.079 naming your children after Packers. I'm judging you for not 1568 01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:55.039 being a fucking Packers fan and naming your children after Packers. 1569 01:19:55.399 --> 01:19:57.720 I see Steelers shit all over. I have never seen 1570 01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.560 a Packer's jersey or a Packer tattoo on. That's my 1571 01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:04.359 only issue. It's because Brett. As soon as Brett Fav left, 1572 01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:07.239 I stopped being a Packers fan. And actually as soon 1573 01:20:07.279 --> 01:20:09.119 as far as soon as Brett Fav went to go 1574 01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:10.680 play for the Jets, I became a Jets fan when 1575 01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:12.600 he went to go play for the Fight. Whenever he 1576 01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:14.000 went to go play for the Vikings, I was a 1577 01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:14.720 Vikings fan. 1578 01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:17.159 And then whenever he retired, he went from Packers to 1579 01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:18.039 Viking fan. 1580 01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:24.039 Due because I mean Hey, dude, that's just the way 1581 01:20:24.039 --> 01:20:26.319 it is. I mean, you have your favorite player, and 1582 01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:28.960 that's and especially in today's day and age, where you're 1583 01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:31.479 going to have so many players just jumping from team 1584 01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:34.159 to team to team year over year over year. Dude, 1585 01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:36.239 whenever I was growing up, it wasn't like that. That 1586 01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:39.319 only really became a thing in the in the two thousands. 1587 01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:43.279 Really well, it was always about money, man, I mean, 1588 01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:44.760 come on, a free agent. 1589 01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:48.159 You know, it wasn't as popular back then as it 1590 01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:48.479 is now. 1591 01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:51.560 You will have more money, but. 1592 01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:54.960 You know, but that's my point. 1593 01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:58.039 He was that star player, so he was a commodity 1594 01:20:58.119 --> 01:20:59.960 that could jump from team to team to team more 1595 01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:02.640 often than not. Through the seventies, eighties, and nineties, you 1596 01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:05.479 would have a player that might play for like two 1597 01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:08.159 teams in their entire career, and that's a big maybe. 1598 01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:10.800 You wouldn't have a guy putting up five fucking teams 1599 01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:11.760 in their entire career. 1600 01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:17.079 That was wild, right, Like Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin, like 1601 01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:20.600 players like that, Like usually you know, they're they're homers 1602 01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:23.560 and they were true to their team. But even still, 1603 01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:25.319 like there's a player that just got traded from the 1604 01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:30.560 Cowboys Micah Parsons, right, and dude, he's like one of 1605 01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:32.640 the best defensive players in the league right now, like 1606 01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:36.159 a top fiver, right, and it was a generational talent. Like, 1607 01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:38.359 you don't trade that. I don't care how many first 1608 01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:40.319 round draft picks you're gonna get, you don't trade that, 1609 01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:44.039 right because that's a staple, that's a cornerstone to your franchise. 1610 01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:46.560 And the Cowboys Cowboys traded him, Just trade them like 1611 01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:48.760 a fucking idiots, because. 1612 01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:49.800 So fucking dumb dude. 1613 01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:51.439 I listen, okay, and you know I don't give a 1614 01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:55.640 fuck about the NFL, but I will say fuck the Cowboys, agree, right, 1615 01:21:55.640 --> 01:21:58.600 because in my heart I'm a Saints fan. Therefore I 1616 01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:01.119 simply must say fuck the Cowboys. Look, I don't like 1617 01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:03.079 it any more than anybody else does. It's just in 1618 01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:07.600 the DNA at this point, right. But yeah, that many 1619 01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:10.600 America's Team, I fucking ass we're still living in the 1620 01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:11.520 seventies over there. 1621 01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:14.880 But no, get missed me with all that America's Team bullshit, 1622 01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:17.960 because you know the I think his name was Art Modell. 1623 01:22:18.079 --> 01:22:21.479 He came up to Art Rooney of the owner of 1624 01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:24.640 the Pittsburgh Steelers back in the seventies and that guy 1625 01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:27.319 came which he was the NFL commissioner, came up to 1626 01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:29.439 the owner of the Steelers and said, look, we're trying 1627 01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:31.760 to promote the NFL a little bit more. We would 1628 01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:34.840 like to name your team America's team. Offered that to 1629 01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:37.520 the Pittsburgh Steelers. First Art Rooney, I think it was 1630 01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:41.159 Art Rooney. Art Rooney said, We're not America's team, We're 1631 01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:45.479 the Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay, so just understand that we don't 1632 01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:48.399 care about being an America's team. We represent the fucking city, 1633 01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:52.520 which I think dude, savage, savage myth love it. 1634 01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:54.680 That's that is a that's a a move. 1635 01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:56.760 It's one of the most moves that'd be like them 1636 01:22:56.760 --> 01:22:59.119 approaching the lines and being like, we're not America's team, 1637 01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:00.359 We're Detroit. 1638 01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:04.119 It's like, okay, then, brother, you you go home be that, 1639 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:05.159 which is great. 1640 01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:08.239 I think you know a guy from Michigan, so come on. 1641 01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:11.159 I'm sorry, No, you're sorry. 1642 01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:14.399 Yeah, the Lions the only team to ever go oh 1643 01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:14.960 in sixteen. 1644 01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:18.199 I'm a if I had to pull I say, a 1645 01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:20.439 Saints fan, It's not like I'm talking from a fucking 1646 01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:21.479 high horse here. 1647 01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:21.720 Man. 1648 01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:23.239 If anything shit recognized. 1649 01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:23.479 Shit. 1650 01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:25.399 You know what I'm saying, which is you know what's 1651 01:23:25.399 --> 01:23:28.399 funny is is that you'll have like commentators that come 1652 01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:30.840 from the NFL and they're like, well, I have all 1653 01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:33.960 this NFL experience, right, and then they get up and 1654 01:23:34.039 --> 01:23:36.880 they start talking on ESPN or whatever, and they act 1655 01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:39.680 like they have all this experience. It's like fucking Dan Orlovsky, 1656 01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:42.039 who was an old Lions quarterback back in the day. 1657 01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:45.720 One of the most bonehead plays I've ever seen in 1658 01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:48.199 my life. This dude runs out of the back of 1659 01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:53.199 the end zone on purpose, right, like because of the clock. No, no, 1660 01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:56.680 like he fucking caused the safety because he didn't know 1661 01:23:56.720 --> 01:23:58.079 where the back of the end zone was. 1662 01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:04.079 And so dude, people were this was this dude. 1663 01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:06.960 People were ragging on him so hard for so many years, 1664 01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:09.119 and that is kept up with him still to this day. 1665 01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:11.720 And then when every time he talks on ESPN, I'm like, Dan, 1666 01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:13.720 go run out the fucking back of an in so 1667 01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:16.920 and you're an idiot, like just so stupid. 1668 01:24:19.279 --> 01:24:22.119 Did Joe Namath did he always stay with the Jets 1669 01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:23.720 or did he get traded? 1670 01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:25.720 He stayed? 1671 01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:29.640 It was Oh played for another team too. At one 1672 01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:31.159 point didn't he when he first broke out. 1673 01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:33.600 I thought he always stayed with the Jets. Where did 1674 01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:36.439 they call him, like Hollywood Joe or whatever? Did you 1675 01:24:36.439 --> 01:24:38.359 guys ever see where he was at one of the 1676 01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:44.000 one of the games and he was just blotto drunk 1677 01:24:44.039 --> 01:24:46.680 and he's just like I will guess see talking to 1678 01:24:46.720 --> 01:24:49.520 the ESPN reporter and then he had to go into 1679 01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:53.760 rehab like the next day. Yeah, Joe, it was bad. 1680 01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:56.640 It was bad. It's like, dude, don't get in front 1681 01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:57.560 of the cameraman. 1682 01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:03.199 Yeah, if you if you're blitzed, stay away from light's 1683 01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:03.800 camera action. 1684 01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:06.119 Just just go the opposite direction, dude, if you go 1685 01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:08.039 back and look at But you. 1686 01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:11.640 Think that's kind of predatory though on the reporters, if 1687 01:25:11.680 --> 01:25:17.840 they know somebody is like just absolutely intoxicated. 1688 01:25:19.439 --> 01:25:20.399 That's that's what they do. 1689 01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:23.600 They find somebody the worst possible position so that they 1690 01:25:23.640 --> 01:25:26.039 can be the reporter that did the deed that got 1691 01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:26.880 this guy in trouble. 1692 01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:30.800 They love that shit. We can bully journalists harder, ladies 1693 01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:31.199 and gentlemen. 1694 01:25:31.279 --> 01:25:33.800 If you feel like you're bullying them hard enough right now, 1695 01:25:34.279 --> 01:25:35.479 you could take it up a step or two. 1696 01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:36.319 I promise you can. 1697 01:25:37.319 --> 01:25:42.000 Well look at like the Minnesota shooting, you know, and 1698 01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:44.960 all the like, did you guys see that photo of 1699 01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:49.000 the woman running down the street like towards the school 1700 01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:52.359 she didn't have a shoe on or whatever. When do 1701 01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:57.039 reporters think that they are just removed from reality, like 1702 01:25:57.119 --> 01:26:00.760 they're not a part of the scene. It's like, put 1703 01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:05.479 the camera down, go help somebody. Of course, now it's like, oh, oh, 1704 01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:07.840 you're gonna you're capture on history. It's like, well, no, 1705 01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:09.439 why don't you go say lives? 1706 01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:11.960 But that's the thing. The cops have their job. Their 1707 01:26:12.039 --> 01:26:13.680 job is to quarantine off the street and get the 1708 01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:16.039 bad guy. I'm a journalist. My job is to take 1709 01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:17.800 the pictures of the cops and the bad guy in 1710 01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:19.960 all this, and they try to hide behind that shield 1711 01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:22.800 of well, I'm just doing my job. And it's like, 1712 01:26:23.319 --> 01:26:26.119 you know, you have to have a real hard time 1713 01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:28.000 looking at yourself in the mirror, you motherfucker. 1714 01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:32.439 Well no, look at January sixth, like I still have 1715 01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:35.640 the time life Meg. It's like, how did you guys, 1716 01:26:35.840 --> 01:26:42.359 if this was just absolute broke, blind bedlam, chaos. You know, 1717 01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:45.439 people are getting killed, how did you get such these 1718 01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:49.399 great shots? Were you? Were you with them and you're 1719 01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:51.439 just like, yeah, let me get let me get a photo, 1720 01:26:52.319 --> 01:26:56.119 you know, and it's just like January sixth throws me 1721 01:26:56.239 --> 01:26:59.680 so off. But you know with Trump, with UAP, with Epstein, 1722 01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:02.399 it's just like nine to eleven, nothing's coming out. 1723 01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:05.199 It was just like, I will say this, as far 1724 01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:09.039 as the mob in general, Republican Democrat, what other fuck? 1725 01:27:09.399 --> 01:27:13.479 I am very very happy that with the UH the 1726 01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:16.920 ice protests that are happening right now, journalists are not 1727 01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:20.239 free and clear from catching those hands or those rounds 1728 01:27:20.319 --> 01:27:22.399 or the hatred from the mob. This journalist is out 1729 01:27:22.399 --> 01:27:24.520 there and she's trying to like tell them, no, I'm 1730 01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:26.039 just here pointing the story I want to hear from you, 1731 01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:26.920 and in their face. 1732 01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:27.600 I don't give a fuck. 1733 01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:30.479 You're out here, show them what they're doing to us, 1734 01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:33.880 POPAPA and they are getting shit on by the rioters, 1735 01:27:33.880 --> 01:27:34.720 and it's like, you know what. 1736 01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:39.720 Good well, Jacob, Jacob a good example. And my mom 1737 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:43.479 was asking me about this with you know, Israel and 1738 01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:49.279 Gaza and embedded reporters getting shot, it's like, Mom, they 1739 01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:52.520 know they're going into a war zone. 1740 01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:55.800 Yeah, if you're a wartime correspondent, you know the risk 1741 01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:58.119 that you. 1742 01:27:57.039 --> 01:27:59.279 You don't have a badge and says Pressed, you don't 1743 01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:02.920 have you know, Geneva convention. No, you have a flag 1744 01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:06.479 shacket on. You're just another target. It's like they know 1745 01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:11.520 exactly what they were getting into. It's not like, you know, 1746 01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:13.279 press badge is not a shield. 1747 01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:16.279 Press badge is not to get out of jail free card. 1748 01:28:16.399 --> 01:28:18.600 It would it will work to those that give a 1749 01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:20.039 fuck that's it. 1750 01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:24.159 Yeah, exactly. But it's like you knew what you know 1751 01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:27.119 and sympathy for their families. But it's like, you guys 1752 01:28:27.199 --> 01:28:30.800 knew what you were getting into. Don't think that you 1753 01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:34.239 have that protection. You're in a war zone. It's like 1754 01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:40.199 somebody somebody free climbing without a rope. Okay, you slip. 1755 01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:44.560 Exactly, you got at Red Rocks and he falls a 1756 01:28:44.600 --> 01:28:46.399 thousand pets to his death with no rope. 1757 01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:49.319 Am I is the family sad that they're no longer here? Yeah, 1758 01:28:49.319 --> 01:28:51.000 but also you were free. 1759 01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:54.840 Climbing without a the risk. 1760 01:28:56.279 --> 01:28:57.920 Zombie, your hands raised what you got. 1761 01:28:58.680 --> 01:28:59.880 Sorry, guys, I'm in a row. 1762 01:29:01.800 --> 01:29:04.640 I think, I mean, I agree, I agree in the 1763 01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:06.640 one hand and disagree on the other hand. I think 1764 01:29:06.640 --> 01:29:10.159 there is a place for journalism. I think that it 1765 01:29:10.239 --> 01:29:14.960 is important for us being able to capture what is happening, 1766 01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:19.159 the good, the bad, the ugly, all all in all 1767 01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:23.920 in between. I wish that there was unbiased journalism. I 1768 01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:28.079 think that's the biggest issue is when it is reported 1769 01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:31.119 in a very specific way to create a narrative and 1770 01:29:31.159 --> 01:29:35.319 continue that narrative. There are journalists so that I follow 1771 01:29:35.439 --> 01:29:39.359 that they actively go out and like they do show 1772 01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:43.800 the raw brutality of what is actually happening because so 1773 01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:50.479 many people, like specifically Americans, all they see is filtered images, 1774 01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:53.920 like they might see some quote unquote graphic images here 1775 01:29:53.960 --> 01:29:56.680 and there, but in reality, they don't have the concept 1776 01:29:56.720 --> 01:29:58.800 of what people are really going through on a day 1777 01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:02.479 to day basis and where places are actually you know, 1778 01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:05.600 starvation when it's looking you know the famous photograph that 1779 01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:08.439 everyone talks about as a starvation kid and everything. He 1780 01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:12.319 actually did survive, but you know what happened to the 1781 01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:16.720 journalists afterwards, But like that's the thing. It sparked conversations. 1782 01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:21.199 I think the images hold true power and video clips 1783 01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:24.840 and images of like what's actually transpiring in locations where 1784 01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:28.840 we have no concept, especially when we're living in such 1785 01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:31.359 a different kind of way than most of the world 1786 01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:36.640 is living. I think it's really important now wartime correspondents 1787 01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:39.239 they understand what they're signing up for. Some of them 1788 01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:43.199 are more naive than others and do pose an actual 1789 01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:45.079 threat to people that are trying to keep them alive. 1790 01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:49.720 Like my ex for example, he went into Fallujah and 1791 01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:52.640 he was the first wave and they had wartime corresponders. 1792 01:30:52.680 --> 01:30:56.000 I actually watched it live on TV. He called me 1793 01:30:56.039 --> 01:30:57.920 outside of it and told me he was going into 1794 01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:02.800 the cemetery and I'm watching the live foot And they 1795 01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:05.359 actually had to work really hard to keep that wartime 1796 01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:10.279 corresponder alive because it was such a dangerous situation. So, 1797 01:31:10.359 --> 01:31:14.239 I mean, they wanted to capture what was really happening, 1798 01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:16.840 and I think it's important to be able to show 1799 01:31:18.319 --> 01:31:22.560 people what's really going on instead of just like filtered 1800 01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:25.079 you know, images and stuff like that. 1801 01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:28.159 Now I feel that, but like you said, it is 1802 01:31:28.399 --> 01:31:34.880 so so hard to find a true, fair and unbiased journalist. 1803 01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:38.119 They do exist out there, but I'm pretty sure regardless 1804 01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:40.920 of whatever political spectrum you call yourself or whatever else, 1805 01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:44.640 I think we can all agree that that is the outlier, that. 1806 01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:45.640 Is not the majority. 1807 01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:47.920 I would say that's that might be the one percent 1808 01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:51.920 of journalists that actually keep it, just showing the story 1809 01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:54.479 as it was on the ground, without throwing their own stigma, 1810 01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:57.000 without their owing their own bias, without trying to spin 1811 01:31:57.079 --> 01:31:59.720 a narrative for their audience, and just reporting. 1812 01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:00.680 As it is. 1813 01:32:01.239 --> 01:32:04.319 I agree that these people are important, but it is 1814 01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:06.600 so rare to find one. It's it's pretty much a 1815 01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:09.319 fucking unicorn. Like they exist out there. But I mean, 1816 01:32:09.720 --> 01:32:11.439 I don't know if I'll ever see one. But I 1817 01:32:11.479 --> 01:32:13.760 am happy, Raven that you have some that you have 1818 01:32:13.880 --> 01:32:15.359 found that you you get down with. 1819 01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:20.479 That's excellent, Sam, your hand is raised, Go ahead, sir. Well. 1820 01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:24.399 The thing about the wartime correspondence, I do believe that 1821 01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:27.119 some of them do good, but I also think a 1822 01:32:27.199 --> 01:32:32.239 lot of it that in and of itself is contradictionary 1823 01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:36.960 to our fighting force because it does put extra strain 1824 01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:41.079 on the guns and everything. But they could with the 1825 01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:45.319 Vietnam War, it was used as heavily propagandized against and 1826 01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:48.119 it it Look what it did to our boys when 1827 01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:51.359 they came home. Yeah, I think that in of itself, 1828 01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:56.680 the bad outweighs the good in that just personally. 1829 01:32:56.800 --> 01:33:00.000 And it's very situational, right. Yeah, in the Vietnam War 1830 01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:04.359 was absolutely used to the to the chagrin of all 1831 01:33:04.359 --> 01:33:06.520 of our boys over there, and then it was used 1832 01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:09.520 to propagandize them in the worst possible light. And I 1833 01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:12.560 would say that a lot of wartime correspondents in Iraq 1834 01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:15.640 and Afghanistan, some of them absolutely put their spin on it. 1835 01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:17.720 There were those that were solid that were there. 1836 01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:19.840 To just get the truth of what was going on 1837 01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:21.520 and all these things, And I mean there's something to 1838 01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:23.680 be said for that too. 1839 01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:27.760 A private joker from a full male jacket was a 1840 01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:30.760 wartime correspondence. He did the duality of men was his 1841 01:33:30.840 --> 01:33:33.520 whole stick, which I thought was pretty cool. Al my 1842 01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:36.039 first time watching that was the night before I shipped 1843 01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:36.880 out to the boot camp. 1844 01:33:37.239 --> 01:33:39.119 But he was also a marine. 1845 01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:41.840 He wasn't working for the rolling Stone that was attached 1846 01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:44.560 to an infantry unit and gone overseas. He was a 1847 01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:47.079 part of them who was doing journalism for the Marine Corps. 1848 01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:49.800 That's a little bit different. But even still, there are 1849 01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:54.800 outside sources that do send like solid wartime correspondents to 1850 01:33:54.840 --> 01:33:57.039 the front that are not a hindrance in any way. 1851 01:33:57.079 --> 01:33:59.920 But again, I don't know, but I would I feel 1852 01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:01.840 that's probably way more few. 1853 01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:02.359 And far between. 1854 01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:05.960 Like more often than not, it becomes that they are 1855 01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:08.479 kind of an HVT to the bad guys, and then 1856 01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:10.399 you got to try to protect them as if they 1857 01:34:10.399 --> 01:34:11.640 are somebody important. 1858 01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:14.960 Well, there was a guy who who went into the 1859 01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:17.960 Valley of Death over the first Battle of the Vietnam 1860 01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:22.520 with how uh cow No, I won't to say the 1861 01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:27.479 general now, but how more that he if I'm not mistaken, 1862 01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:29.760 didn't he end up having to drop the camera and 1863 01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:32.239 pick up the rifle or to buy to save his 1864 01:34:32.279 --> 01:34:34.079 own life and another soldiers? 1865 01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:36.680 Yeah, they show it in the movie we were soldiers, 1866 01:34:37.159 --> 01:34:39.720 but doing that also made him a combatant, and if 1867 01:34:39.720 --> 01:34:41.239 something would have happened to him, the rules of the 1868 01:34:41.239 --> 01:34:42.399 Geneva Convention. 1869 01:34:42.159 --> 01:34:43.119 Are out the window. 1870 01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:45.319 But they were going to kill him anyway. 1871 01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:49.239 Correct, Hey, look that's I understand in that moment killer 1872 01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:51.000 be killed. I'm not saying he should have stuck to 1873 01:34:51.039 --> 01:34:54.119 his morals and like snap pictures and just accepted his 1874 01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:57.239 death right. But there's I'm also not of the like 1875 01:34:57.279 --> 01:35:01.159 I would never be a Wark time correspondent because that's 1876 01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:01.720 insane to. 1877 01:35:01.640 --> 01:35:02.760 Me, even like a chaplain. 1878 01:35:03.159 --> 01:35:07.000 Chaplains go overseas and they can't even carry a side arm. Yeah, 1879 01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:09.399 you goddamn mind if you think that that. Now listen, 1880 01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:13.399 I mad respect to them for believing that their higher 1881 01:35:13.439 --> 01:35:15.399 power is going to protect them in that environment. 1882 01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:16.800 Much love, much respect. 1883 01:35:17.239 --> 01:35:18.760 But Jesus a me homie. 1884 01:35:19.199 --> 01:35:22.720 Jesus says, sell your cloak and buy a sword, my dog. 1885 01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:27.119 I agree with that statement, But apparently the priestly class 1886 01:35:27.159 --> 01:35:29.479 and the military that is a part of it. If 1887 01:35:29.520 --> 01:35:31.800 they are going to be protected under the Geneva Convention, 1888 01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:34.119 then no chaplain can even carry a side arm. 1889 01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:39.720 Jacob, what about uh medics? Can they Caary. 1890 01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:43.680 Medics have to now doctors and surgeons. I think they 1891 01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:46.199 are allowed to, but it's very rare because they're so 1892 01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:48.680 far back from the front lines. But field medics, like 1893 01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:51.800 in the Marine Corps, we have Corman. Oh best believe Corman. 1894 01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:54.640 Doc has that fucking thing on him. As a matter 1895 01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:57.039 of fact, docs get the ultimate respect because not only 1896 01:35:57.119 --> 01:35:59.520 are they carrying their ruck with all their gear and 1897 01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:02.760 their weapon and their AMMO, they're also carrying their medic bag. 1898 01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:06.560 And Doc gets protected above all else because if Doc 1899 01:36:06.600 --> 01:36:09.000 goes down, the entire platoon is fucked. 1900 01:36:09.439 --> 01:36:12.439 So Doc gets treated like he is. If Doc says 1901 01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:13.239 the sky is red. 1902 01:36:13.399 --> 01:36:15.399 I will fucking fight somebody to the death over the 1903 01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:17.560 fucking color of the sky. Doc said, it's fucking red. 1904 01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:20.039 That's there's a real level there for sure. 1905 01:36:20.680 --> 01:36:23.439 And God loves medics, he does. 1906 01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:24.920 That's what I was in the army. 1907 01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:27.039 It was a sixty whiskey call my medic. 1908 01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:29.239 Flying band aid. If I'm not mistaken. Is that what 1909 01:36:29.319 --> 01:36:30.239 you'all are called an army? 1910 01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:33.359 No, I've never heard that flying band aid. 1911 01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:37.439 Yeah, I don't know why they called their medics the 1912 01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:39.680 flying band aids. And I'm like, you know what, I'm 1913 01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:41.319 not mad at that, but dope. 1914 01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:48.399 So yeah, just as solid, maybe depending on like where 1915 01:36:48.439 --> 01:36:51.439 they were attached, maybe if they were airborne or something. 1916 01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:55.000 I'm not sure what I have maybe what uh, you 1917 01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:58.920 were at a medic station, a hospital with a line unit? 1918 01:36:58.960 --> 01:36:59.800 What were you so. 1919 01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:01.920 I was at. 1920 01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:06.239 We did a lot of backfield for I had everything 1921 01:37:06.319 --> 01:37:09.159 from dentistry, psychiatry, psychology. 1922 01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:14.479 It was uh, I don't know, I don't know how 1923 01:37:14.479 --> 01:37:16.159 to explain another. And we had backfield. 1924 01:37:16.159 --> 01:37:20.760 We had everything in ours we're going to support unit. 1925 01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:23.439 I guess now I have to ask you yes, and 1926 01:37:23.479 --> 01:37:25.760 it's okay if you don't answer, but I will judge 1927 01:37:25.800 --> 01:37:29.239 you if you don't answer, how many silver bullets did 1928 01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:30.119 you have to administer? 1929 01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:31.279 Just curious? 1930 01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:36.760 None? None, yeah, none. Man. She did a lot of 1931 01:37:37.319 --> 01:37:42.880 like the the the readiness, so we made sure everybody 1932 01:37:43.079 --> 01:37:46.239 was ready to go, and then we did a lot 1933 01:37:46.239 --> 01:37:47.840 of state side deployments. 1934 01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:51.000 It was technically deployments, but it was, like I said, backfield, 1935 01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:54.640 so when other hospital units would deploy, we would go 1936 01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:57.159 fill their state, their their duty stations, so that the 1937 01:37:57.199 --> 01:38:00.960 hospitals and such weren't or lack all. 1938 01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:03.279 Right now, to be fair, I mean in my entire time, 1939 01:38:03.359 --> 01:38:07.920 I only saw three silver bullets administered ever, but and 1940 01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:09.000 they were by different docks. 1941 01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:10.399 But I kind of thought that was like a rite 1942 01:38:10.399 --> 01:38:12.520 of passage for the doc group. 1943 01:38:13.119 --> 01:38:15.720 All right, Jacob, Jacob, you got to explain that. 1944 01:38:16.279 --> 01:38:18.520 Oh well there's no car. 1945 01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:24.199 Well, well, when a guy sticks as Willie where it 1946 01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:25.079 shouldn't go. 1947 01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:27.560 Oh no, no, no, I'm talking about when they go 1948 01:38:27.560 --> 01:38:30.840 down as a heat casualty, not the not the chlamydia. 1949 01:38:32.159 --> 01:38:34.479 Oh my god. 1950 01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:38.439 The silver bullet is whenever a guy goes down as 1951 01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:41.960 a heat case, right, heat stroke, he'd exhaustion. Whatever, he's 1952 01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:45.000 on the ground, he's non responsive and he's pretty much 1953 01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:49.039 stopped sweating. The doc has to take his core body temperature, 1954 01:38:49.439 --> 01:38:52.319 and there is one place to do that, and they 1955 01:38:52.319 --> 01:38:55.039 don't just use a regular thermometer. It is a rather 1956 01:38:55.319 --> 01:38:58.560 large thermometer. Like why the fuck is the thermometer that big? 1957 01:38:58.600 --> 01:39:00.920 No one's ever explained it to me, a regular. 1958 01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:04.600 Like how big? Like how big? 1959 01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:04.760 Like? 1960 01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:07.039 I mean it's it's. 1961 01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:10.840 I mean, it's not like you're getting fucked by a 1962 01:39:10.880 --> 01:39:13.199 giant dildo by any means. But at the same time, 1963 01:39:13.239 --> 01:39:18.039 it is absolutely larger than your CVS brand thermometer. And uh, 1964 01:39:18.319 --> 01:39:20.319 if you're lucky, your doc will be a homie and 1965 01:39:20.359 --> 01:39:21.239 spit on it for you. 1966 01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:21.840 That's a thing. 1967 01:39:22.199 --> 01:39:25.479 And then once he takes your core body temperature, he understands. 1968 01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:27.359 To what level you are a heat casualty. 1969 01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:29.159 And he knows what kind of aid to ad minister, 1970 01:39:29.319 --> 01:39:31.000 probably starting IVY for the fuck of it. 1971 01:39:31.039 --> 01:39:35.399 They love doing that. But uh, yeah, Raven, go ahead. 1972 01:39:35.279 --> 01:39:40.159 You your core temperature. Why couldn't they do that from 1973 01:39:40.199 --> 01:39:41.479 a thermometer? 1974 01:39:42.359 --> 01:39:44.279 I mean, if you mean, like from the mouth or something. 1975 01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:47.640 Yeah, because you're not one hundred percent sure if that 1976 01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:49.880 guy took a swig of water and how long ago 1977 01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:52.199 and whatever else, you got to understand one doc might 1978 01:39:52.239 --> 01:39:54.920 be the only medical correspondent for up to like three 1979 01:39:55.000 --> 01:39:57.760 hundred dudes, and he's not watching every one of them 1980 01:39:57.800 --> 01:40:00.479 like a babysitter. So if somebody goes down, he is 1981 01:40:00.520 --> 01:40:02.680 not sure of what this guy did over the past 1982 01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:05.079 hour to get to the position he's in, but he 1983 01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:07.359 knows that there is one definite way to pull that 1984 01:40:07.399 --> 01:40:08.880 core body temperature and proceed. 1985 01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:13.680 So that's all they do they. 1986 01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:16.640 Do, all right, Thank you for the explanation. 1987 01:40:16.720 --> 01:40:17.199 Raven Lee. 1988 01:40:17.319 --> 01:40:20.359 You being a Marine Corps veteran, what's your thoughts on this? 1989 01:40:22.479 --> 01:40:26.399 Oh man, I've been. I had lived in twenty nine palms. 1990 01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:28.680 I've been. I lived in Okinawa, and I'm went to 1991 01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:33.800 Afghanistan a few times, all super super keat places, and 1992 01:40:34.079 --> 01:40:37.239 I've seen a lot of people drop. I actually don't 1993 01:40:37.239 --> 01:40:40.039 think I've seen that many silver bullets, to be honest 1994 01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:42.479 with you, but I will say that I had like 1995 01:40:42.640 --> 01:40:47.800 an entire foot locker above my locker itself that was 1996 01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:51.800 full of like ivs because we would get so drunk, 1997 01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:54.079 like instead of banging on the doors to wake up 1998 01:40:54.119 --> 01:40:56.399 the docks all the time, like we we just would 1999 01:40:56.640 --> 01:40:59.439 give ivs to each other at one point my doc 2000 01:40:59.760 --> 01:41:02.840 was I'm actually still friends with some of my doc 2001 01:41:02.960 --> 01:41:06.279 friends all these years later, you know, fifteen plus years later, 2002 01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:09.960 we're still like super close. I would go and bang 2003 01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:11.560 on his door at like three am in the morning. 2004 01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:14.960 I need IVS. But that was mostly the main thing 2005 01:41:15.079 --> 01:41:17.560 is that, and you know, if we could get out 2006 01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:20.760 of having these stupid battalion runs because nobody likes to 2007 01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:23.439 do battalion runs. But a lot of heat casually is 2008 01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:28.600 happened because like actually the most happened in Okinawa because 2009 01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:30.800 it's a tropical island. You have to wear a white 2010 01:41:30.840 --> 01:41:33.960 shirt for an entire month signaling that you just got 2011 01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:37.159 the island because it is so god awful human and 2012 01:41:37.279 --> 01:41:40.119 hot there that like you'll drop just walk into the 2013 01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:45.560 p X. It's really gosh. I hate it. And Afghanistan's 2014 01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:46.279 even hotter too. 2015 01:41:46.359 --> 01:41:48.119 I think you might die just trying to take a 2016 01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:49.920 shit in a fucking poor shit or to be honest 2017 01:41:49.920 --> 01:41:53.880 with you, it's so freaking hot, like if no one's 2018 01:41:53.960 --> 01:41:56.560 experienced that, like feel blessed. 2019 01:41:57.079 --> 01:41:58.880 And that's also how you knew of your doc was 2020 01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:00.560 a real one if he was willing to give you 2021 01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:02.960 an IV because you got too drunk last night, and 2022 01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:05.600 he wanted you to not be completely shit in the morning, 2023 01:42:05.680 --> 01:42:07.359 and he was able to like fudge some paperwork to 2024 01:42:07.359 --> 01:42:09.079 get some more ivy bags and stuff like you know 2025 01:42:09.760 --> 01:42:11.119 some of the docs out there. 2026 01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:12.720 Just doing the Lord's work. You know. 2027 01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:17.119 Anyway, Sam, go ahead, brother has another marine corvette, go 2028 01:42:17.119 --> 01:42:18.079 ahead and speak on it. 2029 01:42:18.760 --> 01:42:21.359 I actually know somebody who had to get a silver 2030 01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:26.279 bullet and everything, but we did. I actually was funds 2031 01:42:26.319 --> 01:42:28.560 with a couple of the coolmen on base because I 2032 01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:33.840 was on p I yeah, I learned how to do 2033 01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:38.520 an IV I ended up giving him everything and we 2034 01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:41.640 stuck him in the shower. Dude, it was his he 2035 01:42:41.760 --> 01:42:44.479 it was his twin's birthday. We threw a baggs party 2036 01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:47.079 and everything. He got completely fucked up. 2037 01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:51.520 M I had. 2038 01:42:51.640 --> 01:42:55.960 I played babysitter and everything, and I legitimately started writing 2039 01:42:56.199 --> 01:42:59.359 a letter to his mother because how how scary that 2040 01:42:59.399 --> 01:42:59.920 shit got? 2041 01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:03.199 Oh Lord, I will say the first time I saw 2042 01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:05.760 a silver bullet go administer was at boot camp. It 2043 01:43:05.880 --> 01:43:07.960 was from this Asian dude who was a complete fucking 2044 01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:09.560 bitch start to finish. 2045 01:43:09.640 --> 01:43:11.640 He'd never like found his manhood whatsoever. 2046 01:43:11.720 --> 01:43:14.000 He like pretended that he did, but he never really did, 2047 01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:17.199 and uh, he went down, and we thought we had 2048 01:43:17.239 --> 01:43:19.680 heard the drill instructors talking about, oh, you don't want 2049 01:43:19.680 --> 01:43:21.600 the silver bullet up your ass, but but we thought 2050 01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:23.880 it was like a tactic to get in our heads 2051 01:43:23.960 --> 01:43:25.239 and like it's not a real thing. 2052 01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:26.960 You know, we have real medical personnel. 2053 01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:29.319 They're not gonna fuck you with a dildo because you 2054 01:43:29.359 --> 01:43:30.800 went down because you didn't drink enough water. 2055 01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:31.920 That's fucking crazy. 2056 01:43:32.279 --> 01:43:36.159 Then he went down and like legitimately got something shoved 2057 01:43:36.239 --> 01:43:38.840 up his ass because of it, and uh, when. 2058 01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:42.239 He woke up, he gave the worst response ever. 2059 01:43:42.359 --> 01:43:44.439 Like later on a day or two later, he's fully 2060 01:43:44.479 --> 01:43:48.119 back in functioning order, and our head drill instructor, a senior, 2061 01:43:48.319 --> 01:43:50.359 asked him. He's like, so, I'm not gonna name him. 2062 01:43:50.640 --> 01:43:52.680 I want to, but I'm not gonna name him. I'm 2063 01:43:52.680 --> 01:43:54.520 not going to be that big of a dick. He's like, so, 2064 01:43:54.720 --> 01:43:58.279 uh guy, uh so, how uh how are you feeling 2065 01:43:58.319 --> 01:44:00.439 this day? How was that silver bullet? His response was, 2066 01:44:01.359 --> 01:44:03.560 that's not what I felt like it would or that's 2067 01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:05.600 not what I thought it would feel like at all, sir. 2068 01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:09.359 And it's like, and you gave the gayest fucking response you. 2069 01:44:09.279 --> 01:44:11.119 Couldn't been like, yeah, I wasn't pretty. Y'all need to 2070 01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:12.680 drink water, you don't want that. No, he had to 2071 01:44:12.680 --> 01:44:14.800 give it in the weirdest tone too, and it's like, 2072 01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:18.279 you know what, you're just a weird motherfucker dude, And 2073 01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:23.600 somehow he graduated sometime he I. You know, when you 2074 01:44:23.640 --> 01:44:26.680 go through boot camp during a wartime, you'll see things 2075 01:44:26.720 --> 01:44:30.039 where you're like that guy clearly shouldn't be here, and 2076 01:44:30.079 --> 01:44:32.439 it's not because you don't like him. It's because he 2077 01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:37.000 cannot get with the fucking program, like clearly, But it's 2078 01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:38.800 a wartime and they need bodies. 2079 01:44:39.319 --> 01:44:40.439 That's just what it is. 2080 01:44:40.560 --> 01:44:43.199 You'll see the standard get dropped in order to let 2081 01:44:43.239 --> 01:44:46.000 people pass that you're just like, I guarantee, if this 2082 01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:48.399 is a peacetime Marine Corps, there's no way you would 2083 01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:50.920 have made it through the first month of this shit. 2084 01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:54.479 But like here you are somehow, and you're gonna be 2085 01:44:54.520 --> 01:44:57.319 some guy's problem when you get to the fleet, Like, 2086 01:44:57.359 --> 01:45:00.159 somebody's gonna have to babysit you the entire time, and 2087 01:45:00.239 --> 01:45:03.319 you can just you see the aggravation. It's like you're 2088 01:45:03.359 --> 01:45:05.520 a prophet. 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That's just my jam. 2142 01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:14.279 You can't stand the silicone based lube. It's got to 2143 01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:15.800 be the water bass. 2144 01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:18.439 Water based or coconut oil, y'all. It's not or possibly 2145 01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:20.159 grape seed oil. If you're gonna be one of those 2146 01:47:20.199 --> 01:47:22.479 high class broads, I'm not gonna judge you, but like this, 2147 01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:23.399 let's keep it. 2148 01:47:23.520 --> 01:47:25.239 Let's keep it traditional, you know what I'm saying. 2149 01:47:25.279 --> 01:47:26.920 Oh yeah, anyway, well you'll be able to find that 2150 01:47:27.039 --> 01:47:29.439 all over at Adam and Eve dot com. Uh, Grayson, 2151 01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:30.399 what are your thoughts. 2152 01:47:30.159 --> 01:47:32.920 On everything that's being said? 2153 01:47:33.199 --> 01:47:40.800 Not not Adam and E. But that was interesting, So Jacob, 2154 01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:45.399 would that be like, uh like, was that Marines Army 2155 01:47:45.880 --> 01:47:47.279 or you in the Marines? Marines? 2156 01:47:47.359 --> 01:47:47.520 Yeah? 2157 01:47:48.520 --> 01:47:52.159 So is that like a few good men? Uh? Cold Red? 2158 01:47:53.560 --> 01:47:53.920 Uh not? 2159 01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:57.239 Well, we never had that situation because. 2160 01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:03.119 I got in at a time when hazing was being 2161 01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:07.000 like it was seen as like the ultimate taboo. 2162 01:48:07.399 --> 01:48:08.680 Right now, it still happened. 2163 01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:12.000 There were still installations, especially like in Okinawa where you're 2164 01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:15.680 on an island nowhere near the continental US where like 2165 01:48:15.800 --> 01:48:18.199 absolutely things went. It went down under the radar and 2166 01:48:18.239 --> 01:48:20.479 a lot of people got fucked up really badly for it. 2167 01:48:20.520 --> 01:48:23.439 But the h the whole thing. 2168 01:48:24.199 --> 01:48:27.199 So we threw one dry shower if anybody knows what 2169 01:48:27.239 --> 01:48:28.760 that is. Have you ever seen the movie Full Metal 2170 01:48:28.840 --> 01:48:31.319 Jacket where they take a bar of soap and they 2171 01:48:31.399 --> 01:48:33.079 put in their towels or in a sock and then. 2172 01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:36.920 Yeah, they called it a dry shower. 2173 01:48:36.960 --> 01:48:39.760 Blanket party, dry shower. There's a couple of different games 2174 01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:40.079 for it. 2175 01:48:40.560 --> 01:48:44.119 We did that one time and our drill instructors took 2176 01:48:44.159 --> 01:48:46.199 all of our bars of soap at that point and 2177 01:48:46.279 --> 01:48:49.239 we had to use one bottle of shampoo for seventy 2178 01:48:49.279 --> 01:48:51.560 five guys and like that was it, and. 2179 01:48:51.479 --> 01:48:53.279 That was shampoo and body wash. 2180 01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:55.399 They would throw it into the massive shower room and 2181 01:48:55.439 --> 01:48:57.119 say figure it the fuck out. So like we kind 2182 01:48:57.119 --> 01:48:58.880 of fucked ourselves on that one. But for the record, 2183 01:48:58.920 --> 01:49:00.920 the guy deserved it there neither here, no. 2184 01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:04.000 There, But he didn't he didn't he didn't order the 2185 01:49:04.039 --> 01:49:08.960 code red. Right, So you guys were doing self discipline. 2186 01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:11.199 Yeah, because we were all getting fucked up on behalf 2187 01:49:11.239 --> 01:49:13.720 of his stupidity and like, that's a thing. Well, we 2188 01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:15.600 did stuff like that when I got to d C two, 2189 01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:17.840 to certain guys who deserved it, I might add, But 2190 01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:22.680 the the systemic hazing from up top your base colonel 2191 01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:25.720 calling down and saying hey, y'all need to handle this guy, 2192 01:49:26.039 --> 01:49:29.079 this and this that, that is by far just if 2193 01:49:29.079 --> 01:49:30.880 it's ever been a thing, it is very much a 2194 01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:34.319 thing of the past. Hazing does still take place, and 2195 01:49:34.399 --> 01:49:38.079 I do believe that it can be done for good reasons. 2196 01:49:38.119 --> 01:49:41.119 It's very very much depending on where you are and 2197 01:49:41.159 --> 01:49:44.640 what you're doing. But the problem is that there's always 2198 01:49:44.680 --> 01:49:47.720 assholes that try to one up it. Right, Let's say 2199 01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:50.880 you have a guy who, uh, he fell asleep on watch, 2200 01:49:51.479 --> 01:49:53.319 so you make an example out of him and make 2201 01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:55.920 him stay awake for like five days straight to teach 2202 01:49:55.960 --> 01:49:58.920 him a lesson. That's hazing. Yeah, but I bet he'll 2203 01:49:58.960 --> 01:50:00.600 never make this miss take again. 2204 01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:01.159 Right. 2205 01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:03.840 That is hating for a purpose. But the problem is 2206 01:50:03.880 --> 01:50:06.600 you always have assholes that like, well, if it was 2207 01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:07.880 done to me, I'm gonna do it to them, and 2208 01:50:07.920 --> 01:50:09.680 I'm gonna be even worse. And it's a it's like 2209 01:50:09.720 --> 01:50:12.359 a whole egoic thing. Next thing, you know you have 2210 01:50:12.880 --> 01:50:15.640 level right, next thing, you know, you have guys getting 2211 01:50:15.680 --> 01:50:18.720 sent to the hospital for the jollys of it, and 2212 01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:22.319 it's like, no, this is, for example, getting blood pinned, right, 2213 01:50:22.359 --> 01:50:24.880 getting pinned and getting blood striped. In the Marine Corps, 2214 01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:27.640 when you get a new rank, you you get pinned 2215 01:50:27.680 --> 01:50:29.399 on your collar your new rank, and you're supposed to 2216 01:50:29.479 --> 01:50:32.000 leave the little backings off of the rank, and all 2217 01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:34.479 day long, whoever is that rank or higher should be 2218 01:50:34.520 --> 01:50:35.880 able to come up and hit you in the rank 2219 01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:37.880 and it stabs into your collarbone. 2220 01:50:37.399 --> 01:50:41.119 Right, And it's not meant to be mean spirited. It's 2221 01:50:41.159 --> 01:50:42.680 meant to be like a little bit of an ad 2222 01:50:42.720 --> 01:50:44.079 a boy, but also kind of fuck you. 2223 01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:46.000 You know, remember where you come from. It's a it's 2224 01:50:46.039 --> 01:50:48.520 a brotherhood thing and a spree to core thing. But 2225 01:50:48.640 --> 01:50:50.560 you'll have those assholes that'll go out of their way 2226 01:50:50.600 --> 01:50:52.640 and fucking hit it with everything they can. And you 2227 01:50:52.680 --> 01:50:55.800 got guys that'll get broken collar bones or blood striping. 2228 01:50:55.800 --> 01:50:58.199 When you hit the rank of corporal E four you 2229 01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:01.439 become an NCO and the Marine Corps with your dress blues, 2230 01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:04.760 you get red stripes down your trousers. Right, good things 2231 01:51:05.079 --> 01:51:08.960 and you have from that for that one day corporal 2232 01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:10.880 on up will come up and dead leg you in 2233 01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:13.840 the thigh, which, again it's supposed to be a little nudge, 2234 01:51:13.920 --> 01:51:14.399 a little. 2235 01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:16.680 Fucking, you know, the fucking with the younger brother, so 2236 01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:17.159 to speak. 2237 01:51:17.199 --> 01:51:20.039 It's not meant to be mean spirited and fuck up 2238 01:51:20.039 --> 01:51:20.960 your entire life. 2239 01:51:21.159 --> 01:51:22.520 It's meant to be a little jab. 2240 01:51:22.920 --> 01:51:24.600 But then you have people that get sent to the 2241 01:51:24.640 --> 01:51:26.880 hospital and can't walk for two days because people take 2242 01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:29.640 shit too far, and that goes for the micro and 2243 01:51:29.640 --> 01:51:32.479 it goes for the macro. These people go way too 2244 01:51:32.479 --> 01:51:35.119 far with it. So I think hazing has its place, 2245 01:51:35.760 --> 01:51:37.640 But when I was in the Marine Corps, it was 2246 01:51:37.760 --> 01:51:41.880 on the downtick to where like if you even tried 2247 01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:44.479 to do something of a hazing nature, that would be 2248 01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:47.920 your career. But again it definitely did still happen in 2249 01:51:48.239 --> 01:51:50.439 different locations depending on where you were. 2250 01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:55.720 Some if that, do you think that the level of 2251 01:51:55.800 --> 01:51:59.760 hazing like in the Marine or Navy or any of 2252 01:51:59.800 --> 01:52:03.359 the other branches, is it the same or more brutal 2253 01:52:03.560 --> 01:52:07.760 like the Army versus some Marines for Navy, or is 2254 01:52:07.800 --> 01:52:10.319 it just kind of like a frat thing, you know, 2255 01:52:11.319 --> 01:52:14.760 it's I would I guess. 2256 01:52:14.880 --> 01:52:17.319 No, no, not really, from what I can tell and 2257 01:52:17.399 --> 01:52:19.319 from dudes that I know, and from stories that I've heard. 2258 01:52:19.319 --> 01:52:22.479 In all of these things, it is a different flavor 2259 01:52:23.279 --> 01:52:25.840 but the same kind of spirit. Like, for instance, in 2260 01:52:25.880 --> 01:52:28.760 the in the Navy, there's something called getting your shell 2261 01:52:28.800 --> 01:52:30.680 back right, and it's when you cross over the air 2262 01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:33.880 National date Line. There's this big, big hazing thing that 2263 01:52:33.960 --> 01:52:36.880 happens on the deck of an aircraft carrier and everybody 2264 01:52:36.880 --> 01:52:38.800 of every rank goes through it. You do not have 2265 01:52:38.880 --> 01:52:41.479 to go through it, but you also want to go 2266 01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:44.560 through it right. And that's a it's a specifically Navy thing. 2267 01:52:44.880 --> 01:52:47.279 There's another thing for Christs and the Equator. I've heard 2268 01:52:47.279 --> 01:52:48.920 there's a thing when you go to the Arctic Circle. 2269 01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:52.479 There there's different levels to it, right jump wings, there's 2270 01:52:52.520 --> 01:52:54.720 a there's a hazing ritual that goes on with that. 2271 01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:58.000 There's the Army has their own thing. I'm sure the well, 2272 01:52:58.000 --> 01:52:59.560 I don't know if the Air Force has some things. 2273 01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:03.279 I would assume probably not, but maybe, but there's there's 2274 01:53:03.399 --> 01:53:06.520 levels to it. Some of them take it to a 2275 01:53:06.600 --> 01:53:11.199 more brutal level. But I would say overall, it's it happens. 2276 01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:13.439 It's just a different flavor depending on what branch you're 2277 01:53:13.479 --> 01:53:15.880 in and what the job requires, like what the hazing 2278 01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:16.479 event is. 2279 01:53:17.439 --> 01:53:20.840 Do you think that the Marines are more brutal than 2280 01:53:20.880 --> 01:53:23.720 the Army, because it always seems like there's a competition 2281 01:53:23.800 --> 01:53:26.640 between the Army and the Marines, like who is more badass? 2282 01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:29.399 Oh, they're very much is always competition for that. 2283 01:53:29.439 --> 01:53:32.439 We're the only two branches that have infantry units, right, 2284 01:53:32.479 --> 01:53:34.560 We're the only two branches that currently weigh in on that. 2285 01:53:35.920 --> 01:53:37.359 And I have my own. 2286 01:53:37.159 --> 01:53:41.119 Personal biases, although I back mine up with supporting details 2287 01:53:41.119 --> 01:53:45.239 and factual information. I'm not gonna talk shit on soldiers. 2288 01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:47.840 I will say that the only time that a soldier 2289 01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:50.960 will ever run further than two miles or shoot further 2290 01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:52.880 than three hundred yards is if they go to ranger 2291 01:53:52.920 --> 01:53:56.319 school or actually get real hand to hand combatives training 2292 01:53:56.680 --> 01:54:00.680 beyond the basics of you know what you would get 2293 01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:03.560 at the Y m c A is if you were 2294 01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:06.159 to or ever get a swim call or anything like that. 2295 01:54:06.680 --> 01:54:09.039 Is if they were to go to ranger school. So, 2296 01:54:09.079 --> 01:54:12.760 by all metrics in account, a ranger tab is equivalent 2297 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:15.520 to an EGA. And I know a lot of soldiers 2298 01:54:15.520 --> 01:54:17.000 in army people are gonna get upset by that. 2299 01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:18.920 Don't get mad at me. I didn't make this's a 2300 01:54:19.079 --> 01:54:19.319 e G. 2301 01:54:19.840 --> 01:54:20.760 I don't understand the. 2302 01:54:20.680 --> 01:54:21.399 Globe an anchor. 2303 01:54:21.560 --> 01:54:24.159 That's the that's the device that you get for becoming 2304 01:54:24.199 --> 01:54:29.560 a marine. So like you're basically trained. Admin marine gets 2305 01:54:29.600 --> 01:54:35.399 the same level of combative training that an army ranger 2306 01:54:35.439 --> 01:54:37.600 would get. And I know people are gonna talk shit 2307 01:54:37.680 --> 01:54:40.840 on that, and that's fine, y'all. Y'all disagree with that 2308 01:54:40.880 --> 01:54:42.560 all you want. I am not the first person to 2309 01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:45.159 say this or the last. But as far as like 2310 01:54:45.199 --> 01:54:49.119 what's more badass quote unquote again, I because I'm a marine, 2311 01:54:49.159 --> 01:54:50.680 I have my own biases, you know. 2312 01:54:51.199 --> 01:54:54.880 I know, man, No, I I appreciate your respect, your perspective. 2313 01:54:54.920 --> 01:54:57.279 I have a good friend of mine. He was an 2314 01:54:57.399 --> 01:55:01.640 Army ranger. He served in Mogid shot during a black 2315 01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:06.760 Hawk down and oh it wasn't It wasn't good. But 2316 01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:08.960 you know what I love about the guy. You know, 2317 01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:12.039 he's older than me. He'll talk about it. You give 2318 01:55:12.119 --> 01:55:14.359 him a couple of drinks and he has no problem 2319 01:55:14.399 --> 01:55:16.720 talking about it. But some of those stories you don't 2320 01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:20.159 want to hear. It's like it's the opposite of like, 2321 01:55:20.359 --> 01:55:23.000 you know, like, hey, you know what happened during this that, 2322 01:55:23.239 --> 01:55:26.039 and then you know that won't tell you or whatever, 2323 01:55:26.880 --> 01:55:29.159 and then he will be like, oh, you want to 2324 01:55:29.199 --> 01:55:34.119 hear about it, you know, and just different different, different genes, 2325 01:55:34.119 --> 01:55:36.760 different blood. Man just could take it, you know. And 2326 01:55:36.800 --> 01:55:40.279 now he's a medical doctor. He told me never, he 2327 01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:42.760 told me never to shave my head. And this is 2328 01:55:42.800 --> 01:55:46.560 when I was like sixteen, and you know what, you 2329 01:55:46.800 --> 01:55:48.760 guys can edit this out. But he goes, yeah, you 2330 01:55:48.800 --> 01:55:51.279 can see the coat hangar marks. Like what are you 2331 01:55:51.359 --> 01:55:53.920 talking what are you talking about? He goes, yeah, this one. 2332 01:55:53.960 --> 01:55:56.279 Your mom wanted to bort you' like what are you 2333 01:55:56.439 --> 01:55:58.880 talking about? I didn't get it. I was fifteen. I 2334 01:55:58.920 --> 01:56:03.039 was so stupid. But now so anyway, I will. 2335 01:56:02.840 --> 01:56:06.960 Say the Army behaves like they are an actual military branch. 2336 01:56:07.920 --> 01:56:09.880 The Marine Corps operates like. 2337 01:56:09.800 --> 01:56:14.399 We are a borderline bloodthirsty death cult, and like that's okay. 2338 01:56:14.680 --> 01:56:16.439 We we have our own we have our own ways 2339 01:56:16.479 --> 01:56:17.560 about us, and we. 2340 01:56:17.439 --> 01:56:23.079 Are we are we borderline well like we all like 2341 01:56:23.159 --> 01:56:26.119 the blood No, no, bloodthirsty, yes, borderline death cult. 2342 01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:28.199 I don't want to say that every marine has a 2343 01:56:28.239 --> 01:56:28.760 death wish. 2344 01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:36.119 We have the SS of the American military manes, Yeah, 2345 01:56:36.199 --> 01:56:39.640 if you want to go that route, I'm just kidding. Man. 2346 01:56:40.079 --> 01:56:40.800 No, no, I'm not. 2347 01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:42.920 Saying like the racism of the Nazis, but like as 2348 01:56:42.920 --> 01:56:45.680 far as the ss is brutality towards warfare and things. 2349 01:56:45.720 --> 01:56:48.279 I mean, the way Marines fight wars was taken straight 2350 01:56:48.279 --> 01:56:51.279 out of the Nazi handbook, like the entire way, and 2351 01:56:51.319 --> 01:56:54.319 that's not even a joke. Their battlefield maneuvers and tactics, 2352 01:56:54.359 --> 01:56:57.960 the buddy rush, the combined fire, the machine guns, like 2353 01:56:58.039 --> 01:57:00.960 all of the things of how a Marine handles a 2354 01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:04.720 firefight straight out of the Nazi handbook. The Army does 2355 01:57:04.760 --> 01:57:07.119 firefights a completely different way. 2356 01:57:07.159 --> 01:57:10.600 But there's reasons for this, right. The Army has better logistics. 2357 01:57:10.920 --> 01:57:14.199 They have a way better system of getting more ammunition, 2358 01:57:14.479 --> 01:57:17.319 more fuel, more supplies to their guys that are out 2359 01:57:17.359 --> 01:57:20.399 on a patrol. The Marines, what you got is what 2360 01:57:20.479 --> 01:57:22.199 you got, and if you run out of ammo, it 2361 01:57:22.359 --> 01:57:26.199 sucks to be you dude that we have a different 2362 01:57:26.199 --> 01:57:30.520 way of fighting, so like in for instance, getting fire superiority, 2363 01:57:31.119 --> 01:57:34.159 just throwing out an example. In the army, they see 2364 01:57:34.159 --> 01:57:37.079 this as putting more rounds down ratings than the bad guys. 2365 01:57:37.439 --> 01:57:40.039 That's how they attain fire superiority, which I'm not gonna 2366 01:57:40.039 --> 01:57:42.600 fight on that. That's a method of war fighting. 2367 01:57:43.079 --> 01:57:44.920 The Marine Corps. It is not about that. 2368 01:57:45.039 --> 01:57:47.720 It is about getting more accurate effects on target than 2369 01:57:47.720 --> 01:57:50.119 they do. And what I mean by that is we 2370 01:57:50.199 --> 01:57:52.159 might only fire a hammer pair, but we're putting it 2371 01:57:52.199 --> 01:57:54.720 exactly where the fucking needs to go rather than just like, oh, 2372 01:57:54.720 --> 01:57:56.960 you get shot at fire in that direction until they 2373 01:57:57.000 --> 01:57:57.760 keep their heads down. 2374 01:57:57.760 --> 01:57:59.760 Because they got more AMMO than we do. 2375 01:57:59.840 --> 01:58:02.680 We have to be more conservationists with our ammo and 2376 01:58:02.720 --> 01:58:05.359 with our supplies. It's we have different et those towards 2377 01:58:05.439 --> 01:58:06.319 war fighting. 2378 01:58:06.199 --> 01:58:10.079 Honestly, and it's it is it true with the Army, 2379 01:58:10.399 --> 01:58:12.840 like they will get the newest stuff and then it 2380 01:58:12.920 --> 01:58:15.399 just gets handed down to the Marines or am I 2381 01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:17.079 exaggerating a bit? 2382 01:58:17.359 --> 01:58:20.279 The Air Force gets the newest shit, then the Army, 2383 01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:23.640 then the Navy, than the Coastguard. 2384 01:58:23.079 --> 01:58:26.359 And then the Marines. Okay, he are the smallest branch. 2385 01:58:26.399 --> 01:58:28.920 We get the least amount of funding and we are 2386 01:58:28.960 --> 01:58:31.880 expected to do way more with way less, and we 2387 01:58:32.039 --> 01:58:35.159 do that because we are some resourceful thieve in motherfuckers. 2388 01:58:35.279 --> 01:58:38.319 Be honest with you, Uh, go ahead, Raven Lee. 2389 01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:43.760 For example, in Afghanis stamps. Yeah, I would go steal 2390 01:58:44.640 --> 01:58:48.920 parts from trucks for communications because we didn't have enough 2391 01:58:50.000 --> 01:58:53.239 stuff to be able to replace and fix our calm stuff. 2392 01:58:53.279 --> 01:58:55.760 So I would go to like the CBS and I 2393 01:58:55.760 --> 01:58:58.319 would go. They'd have a whole lot full of trucks, 2394 01:58:58.359 --> 01:59:01.479 and I would go, and my buddy actually is in 2395 01:59:01.520 --> 01:59:04.079 the Navy, and I would He was calm, and I 2396 01:59:04.119 --> 01:59:05.800 was like, hey, I need shit. So we would go 2397 01:59:05.840 --> 01:59:08.640 out there and we'd raid the trucks and steal ship. 2398 01:59:08.800 --> 01:59:10.800 The Army would leave their shit unlocked. We would go 2399 01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:13.560 take stuff from them. The Air Force was like, here, 2400 01:59:14.119 --> 01:59:17.119 pack some stuff for us, which was a fatal mistake. 2401 01:59:17.159 --> 01:59:19.439 We took all their ship and replaced it with our crap, 2402 01:59:20.039 --> 01:59:23.359 and like we would just replace our broken stuff with 2403 01:59:23.479 --> 01:59:25.479 their with their new ship, and we would try to 2404 01:59:25.479 --> 01:59:27.880 take as much as we could so that way, and 2405 01:59:27.880 --> 01:59:30.479 you know, in case things broke, you know you're talking 2406 01:59:30.479 --> 01:59:33.279 to peace, that's the size of like, you know, a 2407 01:59:33.319 --> 01:59:37.399 half dollar and would make or break your entire communications. 2408 01:59:37.439 --> 01:59:39.800 And if calm goes down while you're out out of 2409 01:59:39.840 --> 01:59:43.279 the wire and you're in you know you need backup 2410 01:59:43.399 --> 01:59:46.239 or something is happening, then you're screwed. So I would 2411 01:59:46.279 --> 01:59:50.119 be raiding ship left and right, taking stuff from people. 2412 01:59:50.920 --> 01:59:53.760 Yep, although we should we should change the terminology. 2413 01:59:53.800 --> 01:59:58.960 We didn't steal anything. We're not require everything. 2414 01:59:59.079 --> 02:00:01.600 Thank you very much, editing. 2415 02:00:02.319 --> 02:00:07.640 I just what really. I never served, but I have 2416 02:00:07.880 --> 02:00:11.439 the utmost respect for anybody. My father was in or 2417 02:00:11.560 --> 02:00:14.479 my grandfather was in the Coast Guard. But what really 2418 02:00:14.560 --> 02:00:18.560 upsessed me is like all the money that we spend, 2419 02:00:19.399 --> 02:00:21.600 you know, and it's just like we're going over to 2420 02:00:21.760 --> 02:00:26.079 Iraq in Afghanistan and we have unarmored you know, we're 2421 02:00:26.119 --> 02:00:29.520 stealing equipment. It's just like, dude, we're we are the 2422 02:00:29.640 --> 02:00:32.640 richest army in the world. It's like, where is that 2423 02:00:32.760 --> 02:00:35.800 money going to? You know, And then you think about 2424 02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:38.159 the deep state, you think about the black budget, you 2425 02:00:38.199 --> 02:00:42.840 think about you know, it just upsess me. And Thenwurans 2426 02:00:42.880 --> 02:00:44.960 are treated so the uh. 2427 02:00:44.920 --> 02:00:46.680 The funding is going to the Air Force and they're 2428 02:00:46.760 --> 02:00:49.760 bullshit satellites. Well, now I guess the Space Force. I 2429 02:00:49.760 --> 02:00:52.800 should say that back when I served, there was only 2430 02:00:52.800 --> 02:00:56.399 five branches of the military during wartime, four branches during peacetime. 2431 02:00:56.479 --> 02:00:59.960 Coastguard is only documented as a part of the military 2432 02:01:00.199 --> 02:01:04.840 during war time But that being said, they they Air 2433 02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:07.479 Force got the vast majority of the funding and they 2434 02:01:07.479 --> 02:01:10.600 got treated like they were, you know, members of a business. 2435 02:01:11.079 --> 02:01:13.880 Then the Navy and the Army got the next two 2436 02:01:13.920 --> 02:01:17.000 tiers of funding because they are actual branches of the military. 2437 02:01:17.560 --> 02:01:21.680 And the Marine Corps gets treated like the pit bull, right, 2438 02:01:22.000 --> 02:01:25.119 the fighting pit that you have that you keep chained up. 2439 02:01:25.159 --> 02:01:26.279 You don't let people near it. 2440 02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:26.880 You don't. 2441 02:01:26.880 --> 02:01:28.439 You don't go out there and like take care of it, 2442 02:01:28.520 --> 02:01:31.520 or bathe it, or you know, feed it the best things. 2443 02:01:31.520 --> 02:01:33.960 But every so often when you need to let the 2444 02:01:34.039 --> 02:01:36.600 chain slip and let him tear the fuck out of 2445 02:01:36.640 --> 02:01:37.279 an intruder. 2446 02:01:37.319 --> 02:01:39.079 That's that's what he has bred to do. 2447 02:01:39.359 --> 02:01:42.760 That's that's what the Marine Corps is essentially built for. 2448 02:01:43.079 --> 02:01:45.399 Go ahead, Sam. 2449 02:01:45.640 --> 02:01:48.560 On the eighth day the Lord made the Marines, and 2450 02:01:48.600 --> 02:01:49.840 the devil ran in fear. 2451 02:01:51.000 --> 02:01:56.159 There rare theyre But anyway, all good things, all positive things. 2452 02:01:56.319 --> 02:01:57.920 All right. We got to get back to the chat. 2453 02:01:57.920 --> 02:01:59.880 We're slacking in that area. We have seventy three men. 2454 02:02:00.279 --> 02:02:00.960 We got to get through. 2455 02:02:01.000 --> 02:02:02.600 We got the time, though, we got about an hour. 2456 02:02:02.720 --> 02:02:03.520 Let's get after it. 2457 02:02:03.640 --> 02:02:06.319 So Grayson said, I have a question off topic for you. Guys, 2458 02:02:06.399 --> 02:02:08.319 raise my raise my hand. I do not want to 2459 02:02:08.359 --> 02:02:10.880 interrupt the flow. So yeah, Grayson, I know that you're new. 2460 02:02:11.800 --> 02:02:13.720 So basically how we go with the flow of the 2461 02:02:13.760 --> 02:02:15.920 show is is that anybody that wants to speak, just 2462 02:02:16.000 --> 02:02:18.520 raise your hand. Otherwise we're going to keep everybody muted 2463 02:02:18.600 --> 02:02:21.760 because then you got too many people talking. So just 2464 02:02:22.520 --> 02:02:25.359 everybody usually just waits until we're called upon. We try 2465 02:02:25.399 --> 02:02:27.680 to get to everybody that raises their hand in the 2466 02:02:27.800 --> 02:02:29.640 order that they raise their hand and stuff like that, 2467 02:02:29.760 --> 02:02:33.119 because we want to give everybody a chance. But yeah, 2468 02:02:33.239 --> 02:02:35.079 so that's usually how that goes. 2469 02:02:35.199 --> 02:02:38.239 I apologize, it's my first time and oh no I 2470 02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:41.640 figured it out with zoom. I'm not used to zoom. 2471 02:02:41.720 --> 02:02:44.600 So yeah, ah, good brother. 2472 02:02:44.479 --> 02:02:46.319 Thanks guys. 2473 02:02:46.359 --> 02:02:49.399 Sam not Spirit Animals said, Hey Sam, sending love from 2474 02:02:49.439 --> 02:02:51.960 East Coast to you, Sam. 2475 02:02:52.039 --> 02:02:56.239 Love dual, Sam Love you love to see it? Oh 2476 02:02:56.279 --> 02:02:58.680 Sam on Sam love man better than Sam on Sam Crime. 2477 02:02:58.920 --> 02:03:02.960 That helps nobody that we don't need that? Fuck am 2478 02:03:02.960 --> 02:03:07.000 I looking at it. Paul bro the Hot Wheel, Paul 2479 02:03:07.079 --> 02:03:16.680 Walker Edition and Torched. That's so funcked up. I love it. 2480 02:03:17.000 --> 02:03:17.319 Mom. 2481 02:03:18.279 --> 02:03:19.640 She did not get she. 2482 02:03:19.840 --> 02:03:22.199 Was It's a generational thing. 2483 02:03:22.079 --> 02:03:26.439 You know, my mama loves Paul Walker, and I'm like, hey, 2484 02:03:26.600 --> 02:03:28.239 he was good in Varsity Blues. 2485 02:03:29.000 --> 02:03:31.319 He was honest, he was kind of a man actor. 2486 02:03:32.319 --> 02:03:36.000 But I mean, you know, RP anyway, Uh, Nick. 2487 02:03:36.359 --> 02:03:40.119 Hell out if Paul Walker. Sorry to interrupt, but I 2488 02:03:40.119 --> 02:03:45.359 got to interrupt Running Rare. That is an awesome movie. 2489 02:03:45.560 --> 02:03:47.800 Running Scared with Paul Walker. 2490 02:03:48.319 --> 02:03:51.079 Even studies talking around with a sixteen year old? 2491 02:03:51.159 --> 02:03:56.359 So are Running Scared in the movie or in real life? 2492 02:03:56.840 --> 02:03:57.520 In I oil? 2493 02:03:59.439 --> 02:04:02.359 Yeah, I don't know about that. 2494 02:04:02.800 --> 02:04:06.399 I have never heard this claim. Yeah, like, uh he was. 2495 02:04:09.199 --> 02:04:12.520 So there was even like the Dickie was with before 2496 02:04:12.880 --> 02:04:15.880 he died and all you go back to when they met, 2497 02:04:16.479 --> 02:04:18.760 she was sixteen and everything, like he was giving her 2498 02:04:18.840 --> 02:04:20.520 rides to and from school and everything. 2499 02:04:22.159 --> 02:04:26.760 And yeah, yeah, I've never heard that. Maybe that's a 2500 02:04:26.760 --> 02:04:29.680 TMZ thing. 2501 02:04:29.760 --> 02:04:32.319 Right, More often than they're not, that's the fucking problem. 2502 02:04:32.479 --> 02:04:35.479 I hate that they are journalists. There are those scumbags, 2503 02:04:35.960 --> 02:04:38.560 but I'll be damned that they are not often more 2504 02:04:38.640 --> 02:04:39.319 right than wrong. 2505 02:04:39.399 --> 02:04:41.840 It's mind blowing. But yeah, I don't know. 2506 02:04:41.880 --> 02:04:43.920 I've never heard this about Paul Walker. We might have 2507 02:04:44.000 --> 02:04:45.239 to do a little bit of research. 2508 02:04:46.239 --> 02:04:49.640 I'll send you the stuff Jacob, all right, I'll send 2509 02:04:49.640 --> 02:04:51.800 it over on the Patreon thing and all. 2510 02:04:51.800 --> 02:04:54.560 Right, Electron, that's going on. 2511 02:04:54.479 --> 02:04:59.239 With Alex Jones. I thought he was getting bankrupt sued 2512 02:04:59.319 --> 02:05:00.600 for old Uh. 2513 02:05:00.880 --> 02:05:03.359 I'm so happy you brought that up, because I actually 2514 02:05:03.439 --> 02:05:05.640 I was looking on there. Usually I like to check, 2515 02:05:05.800 --> 02:05:09.159 you know, the Info Wars side out from time to time. Dude, 2516 02:05:09.359 --> 02:05:15.840 it's getting crazy over there literally today. Uh well you decide, sir. 2517 02:05:16.680 --> 02:05:18.640 So if you look over here, I'm sharing the screen 2518 02:05:19.359 --> 02:05:24.279 over at Info Wars, it says exclusive Alex Jones exposes 2519 02:05:24.319 --> 02:05:27.960 why Owen Shroyer really quit to stage a publicity stunt 2520 02:05:27.960 --> 02:05:31.199 and promote himself by falsely implying that he was being censored. 2521 02:05:31.560 --> 02:05:33.800 And I was like, wait a second, Owen Shore. Owen 2522 02:05:33.800 --> 02:05:36.039 Shore is like second in command, you know, he was 2523 02:05:36.079 --> 02:05:38.239 like the not second in command, but like the second 2524 02:05:38.239 --> 02:05:41.000 most popular show over there at Info Wars behind Alex right, 2525 02:05:41.399 --> 02:05:44.640 and he'd been over there for a while, like almost 2526 02:05:44.640 --> 02:05:47.399 a decade, Owen Troyer was, And so I was like, 2527 02:05:47.520 --> 02:05:50.520 wait a second, ohing, God, the can that's crazy? 2528 02:05:50.880 --> 02:05:53.760 So then I was like, Paul Watson still with him? 2529 02:05:53.840 --> 02:05:55.680 Paul Watson's been with him forever. 2530 02:05:56.800 --> 02:06:00.279 I honestly, I don't listen anymore, but just checking it 2531 02:06:00.319 --> 02:06:01.159 out over here. 2532 02:06:01.039 --> 02:06:02.600 It's uh yeah. 2533 02:06:02.640 --> 02:06:05.640 It says this is the worst betrayal in the history 2534 02:06:05.680 --> 02:06:08.000 of info Wars, and I was like, what the fuck 2535 02:06:08.079 --> 02:06:09.760 is really going on? And then I went to go 2536 02:06:09.920 --> 02:06:12.720 try and see what the other side was saying from owenside, 2537 02:06:13.000 --> 02:06:15.880 and I did a little Wikipedia search on Owen Schroer. 2538 02:06:16.079 --> 02:06:18.720 By the way, he has the same exact first name 2539 02:06:18.760 --> 02:06:21.119 as me, spelled the same way. His real name is 2540 02:06:21.199 --> 02:06:24.199 Jonathan Owen Short. I was like, oh, that's interesting and 2541 02:06:24.880 --> 02:06:28.680 makes sense. He is a handsome lad. But I was 2542 02:06:28.720 --> 02:06:31.479 looking into this and now, Owen Schroyer got real famous 2543 02:06:31.520 --> 02:06:34.119 whenever he was dude. He went up for the Jan 2544 02:06:34.239 --> 02:06:36.720 six riots, right, and he ended up getting put in 2545 02:06:36.760 --> 02:06:39.319 jail for like a month or something like that. So 2546 02:06:39.399 --> 02:06:41.560 I was like, man, I know he's a fucking real one. 2547 02:06:42.000 --> 02:06:45.000 And so I went to go check out what was 2548 02:06:45.079 --> 02:06:47.800 his side of the story. And it says this is 2549 02:06:47.840 --> 02:06:51.239 from the Daily Beast, but a lot of other articles 2550 02:06:51.279 --> 02:06:54.680 are also talking about it too. It says Maga Rising 2551 02:06:54.720 --> 02:06:57.840 Star kicked off of info Wars for turning against Trump. 2552 02:06:58.119 --> 02:07:00.960 Check this shit out, dude. So it says the MAGA conspiracy. 2553 02:07:00.960 --> 02:07:04.479 Theorist Alex Jones has dumped far right protege Owen Schroyer 2554 02:07:04.479 --> 02:07:07.720 from his Info Wars media empire, brutally claiming that he 2555 02:07:07.800 --> 02:07:10.920 was too anti Trump. Listen to this, dude, this is 2556 02:07:10.920 --> 02:07:12.880 where it starts to get a little crazy. So the 2557 02:07:12.960 --> 02:07:16.000 right wing broadcaster admitted that he walked out mid show 2558 02:07:16.119 --> 02:07:19.680 last Thursday after recurring clashes with Jones. Schroyer, the now 2559 02:07:19.760 --> 02:07:22.640 former host of the War Room, spent sixty days in 2560 02:07:22.720 --> 02:07:25.159 jail in twenty twenty three for helping to stoke the 2561 02:07:25.239 --> 02:07:27.119 Jan six riots and was seen as one of the 2562 02:07:27.119 --> 02:07:29.119 most powerful rising games in Magaland. 2563 02:07:31.039 --> 02:07:33.760 It is yeah, thank you, it says Alex. 2564 02:07:34.439 --> 02:07:39.119 Alex Schroyer said that Alex was disrupting the show. It 2565 02:07:39.239 --> 02:07:41.520 just didn't go well. I reached my point of no return, 2566 02:07:41.600 --> 02:07:44.159 so I walked out of the studio. I felt powerless 2567 02:07:44.159 --> 02:07:46.279 in that moment. The only power I had was to 2568 02:07:46.319 --> 02:07:49.479 walk off. It was a little upsetting. Alex went on 2569 02:07:49.720 --> 02:07:51.880 and said that I had a family emergency. There was 2570 02:07:51.960 --> 02:07:54.760 no family emergency. So Schroyer said that he wanted to 2571 02:07:54.840 --> 02:07:57.199 announce his departure from Info war so that he could 2572 02:07:57.199 --> 02:08:00.800 finish positively and directly address his audience about the decision. 2573 02:08:01.199 --> 02:08:04.680 He didn't express any interest in that, Schroyer said of Jones, 2574 02:08:04.880 --> 02:08:08.760 he told me, Alex Jones, he told me that he 2575 02:08:08.800 --> 02:08:11.039 didn't need me, and good luck. I will not be 2576 02:08:11.159 --> 02:08:13.640 on info Wars. I don't know if ever. Again, I 2577 02:08:13.680 --> 02:08:15.279 was left with no choice. This is not how I 2578 02:08:15.279 --> 02:08:17.159 wanted it to be. I did not want it to 2579 02:08:17.199 --> 02:08:19.199 go this way. I tried everything so it wouldn't go 2580 02:08:19.279 --> 02:08:24.159 this way. The host also revealed personal criticism that Jones 2581 02:08:24.199 --> 02:08:27.359 had towards him, including questioning his loyalty to Donald Trump. 2582 02:08:28.239 --> 02:08:30.239 Alex is not easy to work for. And that's fine, 2583 02:08:30.279 --> 02:08:33.479 That's okay. This is Shroyer talking. He says I'm too negative. 2584 02:08:33.520 --> 02:08:36.399 I'm a pessimist. Whatever, I'm too anti Trump. I said, okay, 2585 02:08:36.439 --> 02:08:38.920 I'll just take some time off. I'll just disappear. If 2586 02:08:38.960 --> 02:08:41.119 Alex thinks that I'm too negative, then maybe he's right, 2587 02:08:41.479 --> 02:08:44.079 Schroyer said, A said he had. 2588 02:08:44.800 --> 02:08:47.560 Schroyer said he had a break. 2589 02:08:47.279 --> 02:08:49.800 And came back more positive, but the problems with Jones 2590 02:08:49.840 --> 02:08:53.119 soon flared up again. The same issues that I had 2591 02:08:53.159 --> 02:08:56.520 started up immediately as the same issues had started up 2592 02:08:56.560 --> 02:08:59.439 as immediately as soon as I came back. Imagine someone 2593 02:08:59.520 --> 02:09:02.399 staring over your back. Twenty four to seven. Every single 2594 02:09:02.479 --> 02:09:05.560 day that I came back, it was either a guest 2595 02:09:05.199 --> 02:09:08.079 I was told I had on at the last minute, 2596 02:09:08.159 --> 02:09:10.399 or him coming in the studio he wants me to 2597 02:09:10.439 --> 02:09:13.239 cover this or cover that, or I have to host 2598 02:09:13.680 --> 02:09:16.319 his show for him because he's not in. There's nothing 2599 02:09:16.359 --> 02:09:18.960 consistent for me. I couldn't do what I wanted. So 2600 02:09:19.000 --> 02:09:22.720 The Daily Beast contacted Alex Jones for comment. Schroyer said, 2601 02:09:22.920 --> 02:09:25.640 and anyway, it just goes on to say, I thought 2602 02:09:25.640 --> 02:09:28.600 that it was interesting that essentially how all this started 2603 02:09:28.760 --> 02:09:32.399 was was because Owen Schreyer was criticizing some of the 2604 02:09:32.439 --> 02:09:36.319 things that Donald Trump was doing and Alex Jones didn't 2605 02:09:36.359 --> 02:09:39.680 accept that. And I'm like, wait a second, if we 2606 02:09:39.880 --> 02:09:44.479 can't criticize everybody, this is not supposed to be. And 2607 02:09:44.520 --> 02:09:48.399 this is kind of why we stopped Dick riding Trump 2608 02:09:48.640 --> 02:09:50.800 right like, cause, to be honest, we kind of were 2609 02:09:50.800 --> 02:09:52.640 there for a little minute, but we always said that 2610 02:09:52.720 --> 02:09:54.760 he was you know, don't trust him one hundred percent 2611 02:09:54.800 --> 02:09:56.600 because you know where he who he is and where 2612 02:09:56.600 --> 02:09:59.319 he comes from and stuff like that. But the fact 2613 02:09:59.319 --> 02:10:01.960 that Owen schrreyd was calling him out and saying, I 2614 02:10:02.000 --> 02:10:04.199 don't know, maybe he was talking about the the Epstein 2615 02:10:04.279 --> 02:10:08.640 shit or what, but he was not allowed to uh 2616 02:10:08.680 --> 02:10:11.439 call out Trump for anything, and Alex Jones was always 2617 02:10:11.520 --> 02:10:14.119 at his back. So now I'm looking at Alex Jones 2618 02:10:14.279 --> 02:10:17.079 and everybody that's saying that, like, you know, Alex Jones 2619 02:10:17.079 --> 02:10:19.000 a little bit different. Yeah he's been working out, and 2620 02:10:19.039 --> 02:10:20.880 yeah he shaved his head and he looks like fucking 2621 02:10:20.960 --> 02:10:24.119 Joe Rogan more and more every day. But what's interesting 2622 02:10:24.239 --> 02:10:27.199 is is that he has shifted a lot to where 2623 02:10:27.239 --> 02:10:30.680 he's almost become an Alex Jones h a Donald Trump 2624 02:10:30.760 --> 02:10:33.800 dick rider. And what I thought was really interesting is 2625 02:10:33.800 --> 02:10:37.239 is that there's an older clip and uh, you know what, 2626 02:10:37.359 --> 02:10:39.680 let me try and actually find it. There's a clip 2627 02:10:39.720 --> 02:10:42.880 from not even a year ago where Alex Jones is 2628 02:10:43.039 --> 02:10:46.479 losing his mind and I don't know if this was 2629 02:10:46.640 --> 02:10:50.720 on air or not, but he was losing his mind 2630 02:10:50.800 --> 02:10:54.920 about Trump and he was like, yeah, it was like 2631 02:10:54.960 --> 02:10:57.000 fucking saying fuck Trump and all this other shit. And 2632 02:10:57.039 --> 02:10:58.640 now all of a sudden, he's going through this crazy 2633 02:10:58.680 --> 02:11:01.520 transformation and he's kicking off somebody off of his show 2634 02:11:01.760 --> 02:11:04.640 for being anti Trump, which I thought was pretty interesting. 2635 02:11:04.880 --> 02:11:05.760 Check this out, dude. 2636 02:11:08.079 --> 02:11:10.640 They rolled Trump and he didn't stand up at the 2637 02:11:10.800 --> 02:11:16.119 moment of truth. Donald Trump shit his fucking pants at 2638 02:11:16.119 --> 02:11:20.119 the fucking moment of truth and shit all over everybody. 2639 02:11:21.319 --> 02:11:24.319 That's my first approximation. I'm not in a fucking cult 2640 02:11:24.399 --> 02:11:28.520 for Donald Trump. Fuck him, fuck his family, fuck all 2641 02:11:28.560 --> 02:11:31.399 these people, all right. See I shouldn't even be live 2642 02:11:31.479 --> 02:11:33.560 right now. When are we going on the fucking satellite? 2643 02:11:33.800 --> 02:11:38.720 God fucking damn it, man, What the fuck answered nobody, 2644 02:11:38.800 --> 02:11:40.960 fucking peer of this goddamn fucking world. 2645 02:11:41.760 --> 02:11:43.600 See now I'm fucking pissed right now. 2646 02:11:43.800 --> 02:11:46.359 Syria fought all Kia, they fought eyes as, they fought 2647 02:11:46.359 --> 02:11:50.039 it all, and now you've got madness and fucking all 2648 02:11:50.079 --> 02:11:54.600 these people shitting all over us, and the goddamn fucking 2649 02:11:54.720 --> 02:11:58.279 liberal fascist censoring us everywhere. In the last two days, 2650 02:11:58.399 --> 02:12:01.760 we did an emergency fucking six hour broadcasts trying to 2651 02:12:01.800 --> 02:12:03.880 stop this shit that could lead to World War three, 2652 02:12:04.119 --> 02:12:07.960 and you fucking liberal pieces of fucking shit, you. 2653 02:12:08.039 --> 02:12:10.520 Fucking assholes fucking support this. 2654 02:12:10.720 --> 02:12:16.000 Fuck you, you fucking god damn degenerate Fox and fucking 2655 02:12:16.119 --> 02:12:17.840 Muller and fucking Combing. 2656 02:12:17.600 --> 02:12:18.279 And fuck you. 2657 02:12:19.920 --> 02:12:22.800 So every major analyst see I shouldn't even be on 2658 02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:27.039 there right now. Every analyst agrees this could trigger World 2659 02:12:27.079 --> 02:12:29.680 War three unlike anything in our history. And the Russians 2660 02:12:29.680 --> 02:12:32.359 were the good guys battling Isaas and Alkaida. 2661 02:12:32.399 --> 02:12:33.640 I am not a Russophile. 2662 02:12:33.960 --> 02:12:37.680 I've never been to Russia, but I've studied the geopolitics. 2663 02:12:37.800 --> 02:12:41.439 They are the White Knights and our military five years 2664 02:12:41.439 --> 02:12:44.640 ago joining the Russians to block Obama and the Arab 2665 02:12:44.680 --> 02:12:46.439 springing to do the right thing, did the right thing. 2666 02:12:46.720 --> 02:12:52.880 And now Madnis and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs 2667 02:12:52.920 --> 02:12:57.560 and Trump have shit from end to end all over it. 2668 02:12:59.159 --> 02:13:00.880 So this is from Trump's first term because he brought 2669 02:13:00.920 --> 02:13:01.359 up madness. 2670 02:13:01.760 --> 02:13:02.880 And don't think they don't know. 2671 02:13:02.960 --> 02:13:06.119 I mean, my godfast and furious was Obama shiffing guns 2672 02:13:06.119 --> 02:13:07.960 into Mexico ship tranship. 2673 02:13:07.560 --> 02:13:09.960 Him in the Middle East. Ben Ghazi was all about this. 2674 02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:15.319 I am Trump was so on target everything he did. 2675 02:13:15.960 --> 02:13:18.399 And I will leave ten percent judgment here to see 2676 02:13:18.439 --> 02:13:21.399 what happens. My first approximation is my pledge to you 2677 02:13:21.560 --> 02:13:24.119 is I'm gonna shoot you straight on Facebook and Twitter. 2678 02:13:24.399 --> 02:13:29.359 And I am sick to my stomach right now. And 2679 02:13:29.439 --> 02:13:32.039 maddis looks like a fucking Emperor Palpatine. 2680 02:13:34.000 --> 02:13:38.840 When that cocksucker knows full fucking well. 2681 02:13:39.600 --> 02:13:42.960 That I'll kinda an isis stage all those fucking chemical attacks, 2682 02:13:43.439 --> 02:13:46.800 and now they're blaming it on the goddamn mother fucking ruck. 2683 02:13:47.760 --> 02:13:49.039 I shouldn't be on there right now. 2684 02:13:49.359 --> 02:13:51.520 When the fuck are we going live? I can't do 2685 02:13:51.600 --> 02:13:55.000 the ship anymore. Fuck Trump and fuck these fucking people. 2686 02:13:56.079 --> 02:13:56.439 Damn. 2687 02:13:57.359 --> 02:13:58.880 So I don't know when come from. 2688 02:13:59.239 --> 02:14:01.840 It seems to be from probably like twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, 2689 02:14:01.880 --> 02:14:02.439 somewhere in there. 2690 02:14:03.199 --> 02:14:07.760 Got a couple of small retorts. Is there nobody pure 2691 02:14:07.760 --> 02:14:11.399 in this world? No, Alex, No, you fucking retard. For 2692 02:14:11.439 --> 02:14:14.159 one for two, we did a thirty six hour live 2693 02:14:14.279 --> 02:14:15.279 to try to stop this thing. 2694 02:14:15.359 --> 02:14:18.279 Okay, real quick, my boy, Hey, hi, a guy who 2695 02:14:18.520 --> 02:14:20.760 is on the mic for a living as well. Do 2696 02:14:20.840 --> 02:14:24.279 you think that going live is going to save the world, 2697 02:14:24.359 --> 02:14:27.960 Alex Jones? Is that a That's a real thought. That's 2698 02:14:27.960 --> 02:14:31.000 a real thing that you think by broadcasting this shit, 2699 02:14:31.000 --> 02:14:34.039 you're gonna sway public opinions so much that you're gonna 2700 02:14:34.079 --> 02:14:34.560 alter the. 2701 02:14:34.520 --> 02:14:35.359 Course of history. 2702 02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:39.119 That's a real thing that you really, as a grown 2703 02:14:39.199 --> 02:14:39.760 up believe. 2704 02:14:41.039 --> 02:14:44.359 Wow, only reason I even bring that up is because 2705 02:14:44.600 --> 02:14:48.439 it seemed like Alex Jones was kind of shooting it 2706 02:14:48.520 --> 02:14:51.159 straight there for a little while. And there seems to 2707 02:14:51.199 --> 02:14:54.399 be some kind of transition with his appearance, with his tone, 2708 02:14:54.479 --> 02:14:57.800 with his political ideology, to where Trump can do no 2709 02:14:57.880 --> 02:15:01.399 wrong anymore. Right, and so the and he fucking fires 2710 02:15:02.000 --> 02:15:04.880 Owens Troyer or Owen Troyer gets up and leaves whatever 2711 02:15:04.960 --> 02:15:09.239 the uh conversation was had, he gets up and leaves 2712 02:15:09.399 --> 02:15:11.640 because he was too anti Trump. 2713 02:15:11.680 --> 02:15:13.840 I don't know, I just thought that was interesting. I've 2714 02:15:13.840 --> 02:15:16.760 never even heard of this Owen guy before, but never 2715 02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:18.159 tuned into Info Wars then. 2716 02:15:18.560 --> 02:15:20.880 Not really, to be honest with you, I catch clips 2717 02:15:20.880 --> 02:15:23.680 from time to time, but like you know, if I 2718 02:15:23.680 --> 02:15:26.239 want to hear somebody just go on rants for shit 2719 02:15:26.319 --> 02:15:28.199 that I find entertaining, or listen Tim Dillon. 2720 02:15:28.600 --> 02:15:31.199 I actually find it almost impossible to listen to Info 2721 02:15:31.199 --> 02:15:33.479 Wars anymore because that's what he does. 2722 02:15:33.520 --> 02:15:35.640 He goes on like, yeah, the clips. 2723 02:15:35.680 --> 02:15:37.800 I can't handle a fucking like a two or three 2724 02:15:37.840 --> 02:15:40.880 hour live or anything like that fromhim anymore. 2725 02:15:40.880 --> 02:15:42.520 It's just he's too unhinged. 2726 02:15:43.279 --> 02:15:46.840 I mean, that's his whole stick, right, that goes off 2727 02:15:46.880 --> 02:15:47.720 the fucking round. 2728 02:15:48.079 --> 02:15:49.720 But I think he banks on that though. 2729 02:15:50.279 --> 02:15:53.279 But like I for my own personal for the information 2730 02:15:53.399 --> 02:15:57.640 that is being shared with the class, clips clips work 2731 02:15:57.720 --> 02:16:00.399 way well then, way better anyway than a three our 2732 02:16:00.560 --> 02:16:03.680 rant fest. And he's so up down, left right center 2733 02:16:03.720 --> 02:16:06.199 about it it like I'm just it's not what I 2734 02:16:06.279 --> 02:16:07.359 find to be entertaining. 2735 02:16:08.800 --> 02:16:11.199 If he goes on Rogan again. I love those episodes. 2736 02:16:11.319 --> 02:16:15.119 Those were great, but him by himself whenever, he's just 2737 02:16:15.319 --> 02:16:18.399 like a dog off a leash. Bro that's there's too much. 2738 02:16:18.479 --> 02:16:20.680 There can be such thing as too much Alex Shones. 2739 02:16:21.239 --> 02:16:23.760 But I will say this also before you, you know, 2740 02:16:24.439 --> 02:16:29.079 put General James mad Dog Madison's name in your mouth there, Alex. 2741 02:16:29.560 --> 02:16:32.680 There's a reason he resigned and walked away from the 2742 02:16:32.719 --> 02:16:35.239 White House because he was trying to do a job 2743 02:16:35.280 --> 02:16:36.920 and Trump didn't want to do it the way that 2744 02:16:36.959 --> 02:16:38.959 it needed to be done. So he said, I'm not 2745 02:16:38.959 --> 02:16:41.079 going to be associated with this dog and pony show. 2746 02:16:41.120 --> 02:16:44.639 So he walked. So James Madis knew what was going. 2747 02:16:44.440 --> 02:16:46.840 On, Yeah he did, and he advised the president, which 2748 02:16:46.840 --> 02:16:50.120 is his job as a Secretary of Defense, and when 2749 02:16:50.159 --> 02:16:53.879 the President didn't listen to him, he rolled so yeah. 2750 02:16:53.760 --> 02:16:57.799 No, madis is all about Warren Hookers and sorry, but 2751 02:16:57.840 --> 02:16:58.760 the hookers ran out. 2752 02:16:59.000 --> 02:16:59.479 You know what I mean. 2753 02:16:59.520 --> 02:17:01.479 He's here to you're all blood and fuck your mom 2754 02:17:01.479 --> 02:17:03.360 and he doesn't see your mom anywhere around. 2755 02:17:03.399 --> 02:17:04.959 You know what I'm saying. That's what he does. He 2756 02:17:05.000 --> 02:17:08.440 snaps checks or he snaps necks and cashes checks. That's 2757 02:17:08.440 --> 02:17:09.680 what James mad Dog does. 2758 02:17:09.760 --> 02:17:12.479 But anyway, he's an og spirit animal. Your thoughts on 2759 02:17:12.559 --> 02:17:13.639 the Alex Jones rand. 2760 02:17:14.879 --> 02:17:16.000 He needed to keep. 2761 02:17:15.840 --> 02:17:18.959 Our patron saint of chaos the fuck out of his 2762 02:17:19.120 --> 02:17:23.399 mouth praise. If he gonna talk about the mad Dog, 2763 02:17:23.479 --> 02:17:26.000 he best be put all the places on his name, 2764 02:17:27.000 --> 02:17:28.040 blessings under his name. 2765 02:17:28.840 --> 02:17:31.079 Oh he's gonna get the knife hens that, I promise you. 2766 02:17:31.280 --> 02:17:33.719 There's gonna be a ton of cutlets off that fat 2767 02:17:33.760 --> 02:17:34.680 some bitch yo. 2768 02:17:34.760 --> 02:17:37.000 I tell you what, I'm actually thinking about putting my 2769 02:17:37.079 --> 02:17:39.280 patron saint mad Dog Madness. 2770 02:17:39.000 --> 02:17:40.559 On the wall behind me or something. I don't know 2771 02:17:40.559 --> 02:17:43.120 why you have it. I had in my house. I 2772 02:17:43.159 --> 02:17:45.559 took it down. The frame fell off the wall and 2773 02:17:45.600 --> 02:17:47.040 it broke, and he could get a new frame for it, 2774 02:17:47.079 --> 02:17:49.360 like a big ass poster frame. But I feel like 2775 02:17:49.399 --> 02:17:51.120 I should put it behind me right. 2776 02:17:51.000 --> 02:17:52.319 Absolute it. 2777 02:17:52.520 --> 02:17:57.920 Yes, I spirit animal approves one you pedal on, but no, 2778 02:17:59.120 --> 02:18:01.360 I actually have the I have him set up like 2779 02:18:01.479 --> 02:18:04.399 as an actual Catholic plant. I actually had it a 2780 02:18:04.479 --> 02:18:09.799 shrine in my walllocker NBMP and everything, and my gun 2781 02:18:09.840 --> 02:18:12.440 would subject walked in one time and it was like, Holmes, 2782 02:18:12.719 --> 02:18:15.559 what the fuck are you doing. I'm saying the blessings 2783 02:18:15.719 --> 02:18:18.239 to the patron saint. Leave me alone right now, going 2784 02:18:18.639 --> 02:18:19.799 this is religious time. 2785 02:18:19.959 --> 02:18:20.479 Back off. 2786 02:18:21.559 --> 02:18:23.479 He was like, Jonathan, I told you that there are 2787 02:18:23.479 --> 02:18:25.239 marines that do that. That wasn't a joke. 2788 02:18:25.600 --> 02:18:27.600 Yeah, dude, Honestly, the first time I went to your 2789 02:18:27.639 --> 02:18:30.239 house and I saw that you had a whole shrine 2790 02:18:30.319 --> 02:18:35.040 to the mad Dog with Catholic candles and crazy, I 2791 02:18:35.159 --> 02:18:38.319 was like, is this a joke or is this for real? 2792 02:18:38.479 --> 02:18:40.239 And and I think it's a little bit of both. 2793 02:18:40.280 --> 02:18:42.639 Actually for me personally, it was a joke. 2794 02:18:42.680 --> 02:18:44.479 I even had like a little bowl where I leave 2795 02:18:44.520 --> 02:18:49.000 my I leave my tribute, you know, and and the tribute. 2796 02:18:48.600 --> 02:18:50.840 Is my offering, if you will, is ammunition. 2797 02:18:51.120 --> 02:18:53.280 As a matter of fact, every every so often I 2798 02:18:53.280 --> 02:18:55.559 would drop a fresh forty five or a fresh nine 2799 02:18:55.600 --> 02:18:57.440 mil or my thirty eight I would drop a fresh 2800 02:18:57.520 --> 02:19:01.000 round into the bowl because Matt dog Be stated, you know, 2801 02:19:01.040 --> 02:19:02.280 but like that was the point. 2802 02:19:02.280 --> 02:19:05.280 It was a joke. My god, my former father in law, 2803 02:19:05.360 --> 02:19:09.239 a very very devout Christian man, thought that I was 2804 02:19:09.360 --> 02:19:12.479 like actually somewhat pagan and I'm like, no, dude, it's 2805 02:19:12.879 --> 02:19:15.719 it's a Marine Corps general dressed as a Catholic saint. 2806 02:19:16.040 --> 02:19:20.120 Clearly, this is for the laughs. Who's still alive, Like, yeah, 2807 02:19:20.159 --> 02:19:22.920 he's still alive. He married a doctor, Like he's doing great, 2808 02:19:22.959 --> 02:19:26.559 but like he not, he is well. 2809 02:19:27.000 --> 02:19:29.360 There was some conversation if he was the warrior Monk 2810 02:19:29.520 --> 02:19:30.079 or if. 2811 02:19:29.920 --> 02:19:32.639 General Dunford was the warrior Monk, and I think there's 2812 02:19:32.680 --> 02:19:34.639 a strong case for both, to be honest with. 2813 02:19:34.559 --> 02:19:37.200 You, Okay, who's general for dunfoed? 2814 02:19:37.760 --> 02:19:40.840 General Dunford was the assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps 2815 02:19:40.840 --> 02:19:43.680 while I was in He actually coined me with his 2816 02:19:43.760 --> 02:19:46.879 acmac coin in Paris whenever he caught me stealing champagne 2817 02:19:46.879 --> 02:19:49.360 from my boys. He thought that was good initiative, and 2818 02:19:49.399 --> 02:19:51.719 he actually gave me a coin for it. Then he 2819 02:19:51.760 --> 02:19:54.239 went on to become the commandant of the Marine Corps. 2820 02:19:54.280 --> 02:19:55.520 Then he went on to become the chairman of the 2821 02:19:55.559 --> 02:19:59.520 Joint Chiefe for a time, solid guy and by warrior monk. Yes, 2822 02:19:59.559 --> 02:20:02.440 he was in entry by trade, so he absolutely snaps 2823 02:20:02.479 --> 02:20:04.959 some necks and cash some checks. But he also was 2824 02:20:05.040 --> 02:20:10.040 an extremely enlightened and very very educated individual, so there 2825 02:20:10.079 --> 02:20:12.040 was a very strong claim to be made about him 2826 02:20:12.040 --> 02:20:15.040 being the warrior monk and then also somebody that takes 2827 02:20:15.120 --> 02:20:18.440 killing to a religious level, like our patron Saint mad Dog. 2828 02:20:18.440 --> 02:20:20.440 I think there's a very strong case for both. There 2829 02:20:20.479 --> 02:20:22.479 could be more than one war enlightened in what way 2830 02:20:22.559 --> 02:20:29.239 do you mean warfare? Okay and mattlefield tactics, Like he 2831 02:20:29.280 --> 02:20:33.600 could give you a breakdown synopsis of Shaka Zulu's tactics 2832 02:20:33.600 --> 02:20:36.920 and the Bullhorns, and he could give you a breakdown 2833 02:20:37.040 --> 02:20:42.159 with with college level astuteness about Alexander the Great's cavalry 2834 02:20:42.200 --> 02:20:44.840 and all these things, and like breaking down war fighting 2835 02:20:44.879 --> 02:20:50.200 to an engineering level. He was very enlightened in the 2836 02:20:50.239 --> 02:20:52.120 ways of how to efficiently kill the enemy. 2837 02:20:52.159 --> 02:20:55.559 It was beautiful to listen to Grayson. What are your 2838 02:20:55.559 --> 02:20:56.040 thoughts there? 2839 02:20:57.079 --> 02:21:02.319 So like a warrior monker almost like I like, I'm 2840 02:21:02.319 --> 02:21:04.600 a big D and D guy, and I think almost 2841 02:21:04.799 --> 02:21:11.959 like you know, they are, you know, night, you know. 2842 02:21:11.840 --> 02:21:12.239 What I mean. 2843 02:21:12.920 --> 02:21:18.239 Yeah, but I yeah, I appreciate all your insights, Jacob. 2844 02:21:18.319 --> 02:21:21.120 I never knew that much about the Marines. I've never 2845 02:21:21.200 --> 02:21:22.879 had that beating Marines. 2846 02:21:22.920 --> 02:21:31.440 It's always Yeah, it's great to hear the stories and easy. 2847 02:21:31.959 --> 02:21:33.000 I appreciate that. Man. 2848 02:21:33.719 --> 02:21:40.000 I I typically get ship for speaking on military things 2849 02:21:40.239 --> 02:21:43.360 or veteran matters because because of just the way it 2850 02:21:43.399 --> 02:21:46.120 shook out, I was infantry bright trade, but I never deployed, 2851 02:21:46.680 --> 02:21:48.559 which is still my biggest life regret. 2852 02:21:48.840 --> 02:21:49.000 Uh. 2853 02:21:49.040 --> 02:21:51.200 And it wasn't by choice. I was volunteerd to go 2854 02:21:51.200 --> 02:21:53.200 to a duty station that made me non deployable, and 2855 02:21:53.200 --> 02:21:54.799 that's where I was for all four years, and I 2856 02:21:54.799 --> 02:21:57.440 was stationed in d C. But Uh, a lot of 2857 02:21:57.479 --> 02:21:59.479 people hit me in the comments like yep, Jacob speaking 2858 02:21:59.479 --> 02:22:02.440 on things and never deployed, bup buh bop from people 2859 02:22:02.479 --> 02:22:05.719 that never served, that had the audacity to try to 2860 02:22:05.760 --> 02:22:08.559 speak to me or speak about me in such ways. 2861 02:22:08.559 --> 02:22:12.479 And it's like, you know, everybody's entired of their opinion, 2862 02:22:12.639 --> 02:22:15.440 and that's fine, but it's it is what it is. 2863 02:22:15.479 --> 02:22:15.719 There. 2864 02:22:15.879 --> 02:22:18.239 There's gonna be hater sipping that hater raid and uh, 2865 02:22:18.319 --> 02:22:20.399 hater's gonna hate and Tater's gonna potate. 2866 02:22:20.680 --> 02:22:24.040 I mean, it's easy to talk shit behind a black mirror, 2867 02:22:24.319 --> 02:22:24.520 you know. 2868 02:22:25.040 --> 02:22:25.639 Oh my god. 2869 02:22:25.719 --> 02:22:30.680 Yeah, the keyboard warriors are so fucking ravenous. And it's like, yeah, oh, 2870 02:22:30.760 --> 02:22:32.239 Jacob's talking about war fighting. 2871 02:22:32.280 --> 02:22:33.440 He never did war fighting. 2872 02:22:33.479 --> 02:22:36.159 It's like, you know, at least I joined during wartime 2873 02:22:36.319 --> 02:22:38.639 and chose a field where I was going to be 2874 02:22:39.040 --> 02:22:41.879 in war. The Marine Corps decided that that's not where 2875 02:22:41.879 --> 02:22:44.479 I was supposed to go, but that's not what I chose, 2876 02:22:44.799 --> 02:22:48.239 and like somehow I am just talking out of my ass. 2877 02:22:48.000 --> 02:22:50.040 And it's like, yeah, well, and the thing about that 2878 02:22:50.200 --> 02:22:52.920 is is like it wasn't even your choice, like you 2879 02:22:53.040 --> 02:22:55.319 wanted to go over there and fucking you know, kick 2880 02:22:55.399 --> 02:22:57.239 doors and all that shit, like that's why you signed 2881 02:22:57.319 --> 02:22:59.920 up for the infantry. But what's interesting is that you 2882 02:23:00.079 --> 02:23:03.520 will have people that say that it's like, dude, once 2883 02:23:03.600 --> 02:23:06.559 you signed your name over you you don't even own 2884 02:23:06.600 --> 02:23:09.520 your own property, Like you are the property of the government. 2885 02:23:09.639 --> 02:23:11.120 You don't have a say so, and shit. 2886 02:23:11.479 --> 02:23:13.399 Oh full fletched, and like, yeah, you can get a 2887 02:23:13.399 --> 02:23:15.799 wish list and they might try to work with you 2888 02:23:15.879 --> 02:23:18.799 to get you where you want to go. But at 2889 02:23:18.799 --> 02:23:19.959 the end of the day, it's the needs of the 2890 02:23:19.959 --> 02:23:22.520 Marine Corps and that's or the needs of the army 2891 02:23:22.559 --> 02:23:24.559 or the needs of the Navy. Even if I want 2892 02:23:24.559 --> 02:23:26.319 to go east coast and it's like you can talk 2893 02:23:26.360 --> 02:23:29.840 to whatever, people try to shmoose your way in, but like, hey, 2894 02:23:29.879 --> 02:23:32.440 if the West coast needs bodies and you're up, then 2895 02:23:32.440 --> 02:23:34.680 that's just what it is. I'm very sorry, But the 2896 02:23:34.680 --> 02:23:36.719 needs of the Marine Corps far outwaigh of the needs 2897 02:23:36.719 --> 02:23:39.360 of you, and that's that's you know, it is what 2898 02:23:39.440 --> 02:23:42.159 it is, and hindsight twenty twenty, it's probably for the best. 2899 02:23:42.239 --> 02:23:44.760 I never saw combat. I didn't realize it at the time, 2900 02:23:44.799 --> 02:23:48.920 but I was a idiot. I was a child who 2901 02:23:49.000 --> 02:23:51.600 had stepped into a man's world and did not realize 2902 02:23:52.360 --> 02:23:54.000 the levels that were associated with that. 2903 02:23:54.280 --> 02:23:56.879 And it's very possible that I would have been the 2904 02:23:56.920 --> 02:23:57.399 guy to. 2905 02:23:57.760 --> 02:24:00.000 End up getting killed or hurt, or heaven forbid, gets 2906 02:24:00.040 --> 02:24:02.079 someone else in my squad platoon, herd or killed. 2907 02:24:02.440 --> 02:24:04.680 I don't know that for a fact, but I will 2908 02:24:04.719 --> 02:24:05.600 say that I. 2909 02:24:05.479 --> 02:24:08.200 Am of the belief that God has a plan, and 2910 02:24:08.239 --> 02:24:10.719 whether or not we agree with it or like it, 2911 02:24:11.120 --> 02:24:15.360 there is more going on than what we have access to, 2912 02:24:15.520 --> 02:24:18.399 but I will say that everything does happen for a reason. 2913 02:24:19.000 --> 02:24:21.440 I wouldn't have the insights that I have if I 2914 02:24:21.520 --> 02:24:23.879 hadn't had been stationed in Washington, D C. 2915 02:24:24.120 --> 02:24:26.399 For all four years and seeing the dog and. 2916 02:24:26.360 --> 02:24:29.520 Pony show and the pompacity of the bullshit that is 2917 02:24:29.639 --> 02:24:33.799 our political system with my own eyes firsthand, right, I 2918 02:24:33.799 --> 02:24:36.120 would have never had that insight. I've been to the 2919 02:24:36.159 --> 02:24:38.079 Pentagon more times than I can count. I've been in 2920 02:24:38.120 --> 02:24:39.559 and out of the White House more times than I 2921 02:24:39.639 --> 02:24:42.719 can count. You name these things, these big buildings where 2922 02:24:42.719 --> 02:24:44.920 all these things happen, and like we read these stories 2923 02:24:44.959 --> 02:24:48.520 talking about conspiratorial things of like, oh, well this happened 2924 02:24:48.520 --> 02:24:50.239 at this place, and this happened, and I at least 2925 02:24:50.280 --> 02:24:52.799 have a little bit of insight to say, actually, that's 2926 02:24:52.840 --> 02:24:55.000 kind of how that goes. Or wait a minute, that 2927 02:24:55.040 --> 02:24:57.559 doesn't make any sense. I would have never had that 2928 02:24:57.639 --> 02:25:00.719 insight had God not put me in the position in 2929 02:25:00.760 --> 02:25:03.280 the timeframe that I was. So, whether I like it 2930 02:25:03.399 --> 02:25:06.239 or not, that's just how things go. And I would 2931 02:25:06.319 --> 02:25:07.479 like to think that I'm better for. 2932 02:25:07.399 --> 02:25:10.120 It, just out of curiosity. Whenever you were stationed there, 2933 02:25:10.159 --> 02:25:11.680 did you ever, bless you? 2934 02:25:11.719 --> 02:25:14.479 Samuel? Did you. God damn bless you, sir. 2935 02:25:15.120 --> 02:25:17.159 I saw you light up two blunts at the same time. 2936 02:25:17.200 --> 02:25:19.639 You fucking double fish in that bitch, So yeah, get 2937 02:25:19.639 --> 02:25:20.479 it out of you, dude. 2938 02:25:21.719 --> 02:25:23.920 But just out of curiosity, whenever you were there, did 2939 02:25:23.959 --> 02:25:26.600 you know that DC was shaped in the form of 2940 02:25:26.639 --> 02:25:28.600 an upside down pentagram. 2941 02:25:29.159 --> 02:25:32.159 So it's actually the Hermetic Tree of Life. There is 2942 02:25:32.200 --> 02:25:34.680 a pentagram within it, but if you look at it 2943 02:25:34.719 --> 02:25:38.079 the entire National Mall, it is actually the Hermetic Tree 2944 02:25:38.079 --> 02:25:42.079 of Life. And so it's Jewish, well not, it's Cabbalistic, 2945 02:25:43.399 --> 02:25:46.159 which makes sense whenever you realize that it was Freemasons 2946 02:25:46.159 --> 02:25:47.000 that founded the city. 2947 02:25:47.040 --> 02:25:49.440 But it's not necessarily even Hermetic. Then it would be 2948 02:25:49.479 --> 02:25:52.920 the the Einsoff, I believe is what it's called. That tree, 2949 02:25:53.000 --> 02:25:54.479 that's the Cabbalistic tree. 2950 02:25:55.079 --> 02:25:56.440 Okay, fair enough, fair enough. 2951 02:25:56.479 --> 02:25:58.440 But I know that they use I mean that the 2952 02:25:58.440 --> 02:26:01.760 Nordic Pagans use the Tree of Life, and the Vadix 2953 02:26:01.799 --> 02:26:04.159 had their own version of it, and it's basically the 2954 02:26:04.200 --> 02:26:06.799 same image. But different things are called different things and 2955 02:26:06.840 --> 02:26:09.280 like whatever. But to your point, did I know that 2956 02:26:09.360 --> 02:26:12.399 before I lived there? Yes, as a matter of fact, 2957 02:26:12.399 --> 02:26:13.879 I did. Have I ever told you about my first 2958 02:26:13.879 --> 02:26:16.959 time in Washington, DC. I don't think so, all right, 2959 02:26:17.000 --> 02:26:20.520 And it's uh funny how things work out, you know 2960 02:26:20.520 --> 02:26:24.120 what I'm saying. All Right, So I have been into 2961 02:26:24.200 --> 02:26:29.159 conspiracies since I was young, and I mean like young young. 2962 02:26:29.239 --> 02:26:31.040 But by the time I was able to start googling 2963 02:26:31.079 --> 02:26:33.760 shit in middle school, I was looking up conspiracies. 2964 02:26:33.760 --> 02:26:38.000 But it was the big picture shit, the JFK assassinations, 2965 02:26:38.159 --> 02:26:42.079 the false flags, some of the bigger ones, the USS 2966 02:26:42.120 --> 02:26:44.559 independence and all these fine, fine. 2967 02:26:44.399 --> 02:26:47.280 The governmental conspiracies, which at the. 2968 02:26:47.280 --> 02:26:50.559 Time, especially me being a middle school kid. And it's 2969 02:26:50.559 --> 02:26:52.920 not like my parents. My mom was kind of in 2970 02:26:52.959 --> 02:26:55.799 the conspiracy conversation, but not to the levels of what 2971 02:26:56.120 --> 02:26:58.040 we have conversations about these days. 2972 02:26:58.120 --> 02:26:58.280 Right. 2973 02:26:58.319 --> 02:27:01.840 My dad very much blue pill living in the bubble, 2974 02:27:01.879 --> 02:27:04.159 and he does not want to know what's outside the bubble. 2975 02:27:04.159 --> 02:27:06.360 He's very comfortable he's at so like. I didn't have 2976 02:27:06.479 --> 02:27:07.479 that growing up. 2977 02:27:08.920 --> 02:27:11.079 But when nine to eleven took place, I was, you know, 2978 02:27:11.159 --> 02:27:13.319 an elementary school in high school. I had a buddy 2979 02:27:13.360 --> 02:27:16.360 of mine that lived in New York and moved to Louisiana, 2980 02:27:16.840 --> 02:27:18.760 and he was telling me about how there's a lot 2981 02:27:18.799 --> 02:27:20.600 more went on at nine to eleven than what we know, 2982 02:27:20.920 --> 02:27:22.879 and I was like, what the hell are you talking about, dude. 2983 02:27:23.040 --> 02:27:27.440 So he showed me the nine to eleven Truth documentary 2984 02:27:27.479 --> 02:27:30.120 and all these things, and that really started my brain turning. 2985 02:27:30.200 --> 02:27:30.360 Right. 2986 02:27:30.399 --> 02:27:33.239 So, I've been into conspiracies for a very long time, 2987 02:27:33.520 --> 02:27:35.479 and I knew that there was some some weird shit 2988 02:27:35.559 --> 02:27:38.760 about the layout of Washington, DC my first time ever 2989 02:27:38.799 --> 02:27:39.440 going to the city. 2990 02:27:39.479 --> 02:27:41.360 I was actually a senior in high school. Right. 2991 02:27:41.879 --> 02:27:44.719 My girlfriend at the time that later became my wife, 2992 02:27:44.719 --> 02:27:46.200 who was ex wife number one. 2993 02:27:46.520 --> 02:27:49.399 Her mom lived in DC because she worked at the. 2994 02:27:50.920 --> 02:27:54.680 At that national level for the Veteran Affairs, right, And 2995 02:27:54.760 --> 02:27:58.239 so during the summer she went and spent the summer 2996 02:27:58.319 --> 02:27:59.840 with her mom, and I went up there for like 2997 02:27:59.879 --> 02:28:03.559 a week to see DC and have a little summer vacation. 2998 02:28:03.920 --> 02:28:06.639 One of these It was fine, you know, and. 2999 02:28:06.959 --> 02:28:12.479 Her mom lived about two blocks away from this thing 3000 02:28:12.520 --> 02:28:15.079 that I didn't know existed. And this is where it 3001 02:28:15.280 --> 02:28:19.399 really all came full circle for me. It was late, 3002 02:28:19.680 --> 02:28:21.520 not gonna say, like two in the morning behind a means, 3003 02:28:21.559 --> 02:28:23.200 but it was, you know, it was after dark for sure, 3004 02:28:23.760 --> 02:28:26.120 and we decided to go for a little walk and 3005 02:28:26.200 --> 02:28:29.000 we were in a safe area of the town. I 3006 02:28:29.040 --> 02:28:31.159 want to say, it was like around It was like northwest. 3007 02:28:31.239 --> 02:28:34.399 I think it's been a hot minute, but anyway, and uh, 3008 02:28:35.040 --> 02:28:38.280 we take a little walk two blocks away and I 3009 02:28:38.319 --> 02:28:44.719 see this giant pyramid with sphinxes and giant torches out 3010 02:28:44.760 --> 02:28:48.040 front in the middle of Washington, d C. And I'm like, 3011 02:28:48.280 --> 02:28:50.520 what the fuck is this building? Is this is a 3012 02:28:50.600 --> 02:28:53.079 museum of ancient Egypt. Why the hell would it be 3013 02:28:53.120 --> 02:28:55.959 in d C? And why does it look like this? No, 3014 02:28:56.680 --> 02:28:59.120 what I had just realized is that this is the 3015 02:28:59.360 --> 02:29:04.639 National Grand Lodge of the Freemasons. Her mom lived two 3016 02:29:04.680 --> 02:29:08.680 blocks away from this, and I just accidentally happened upon this. 3017 02:29:08.680 --> 02:29:11.680 This is a grandiose structure to be in the middle 3018 02:29:11.719 --> 02:29:15.360 of what, by all other accounts, by all other city blocks, 3019 02:29:15.479 --> 02:29:16.799 is just a regular city. 3020 02:29:17.479 --> 02:29:17.680 Right. 3021 02:29:18.440 --> 02:29:20.520 That started me looking into and I knew that a 3022 02:29:20.520 --> 02:29:22.639 few of the signers of the Declaration of Independence or 3023 02:29:22.680 --> 02:29:25.879 Freemasons and like, yeah, you know these things. But I 3024 02:29:25.920 --> 02:29:28.479 started to look at DC a lot more critically at 3025 02:29:28.479 --> 02:29:31.120 that time. So to answer your question, yes, when I 3026 02:29:31.159 --> 02:29:34.079 got stationed in DC, I already knew that there was 3027 02:29:34.120 --> 02:29:38.799 a lot of interesting features about the layout of this city. 3028 02:29:38.959 --> 02:29:43.719 Yes, okay, I actually found one of the iterations of 3029 02:29:43.760 --> 02:29:48.200 that tree that you're talking about. This is just one 3030 02:29:48.200 --> 02:29:51.159 of the iterations. It's not the most common one or 3031 02:29:51.159 --> 02:29:53.879 the most well known one. But this is the eyeing saft. 3032 02:29:54.799 --> 02:29:55.360 I'll tell you what. 3033 02:29:55.440 --> 02:30:00.680 I'm gonna look this up on DC arometic tree image 3034 02:30:01.000 --> 02:30:03.760 and I'm a I'm anna blow your mind on this one. 3035 02:30:04.120 --> 02:30:06.639 Yeah, this is the one that everybody's usually accustomed to. 3036 02:30:06.719 --> 02:30:09.879 Something a little bit more along this line, shaped in 3037 02:30:09.920 --> 02:30:14.600 that kind of way. Yeah, dude, you start looking into 3038 02:30:14.600 --> 02:30:19.520 that like the Kabbalistic tree of life or the uh uh, 3039 02:30:20.040 --> 02:30:23.559 the Nordic tree of life, which is called y yoursil, Yeah, 3040 02:30:23.719 --> 02:30:27.159 y grissil however people say it, but it is, uh, 3041 02:30:27.280 --> 02:30:29.200 it's pretty wild, dude. So yeah, I can see that. 3042 02:30:29.920 --> 02:30:32.440 Look up Sacred geometry of Washington, DC. 3043 02:30:32.600 --> 02:30:35.280 Look at that image. Just let me see how this 3044 02:30:35.360 --> 02:30:42.600 tickles your fancy sacred geometry of Washington. D c uh 3045 02:30:42.799 --> 02:30:50.879 possibly look up a tree. Let me see, um, yeah 3046 02:30:50.920 --> 02:30:53.520 that one. No, no, no, look over a top right 3047 02:30:53.680 --> 02:30:56.639 second from the right, that one. 3048 02:30:57.760 --> 02:30:59.840 Oh, say, a layout of Washington. 3049 02:31:00.920 --> 02:31:05.280 It almost looks like the the ladle spinning top thing right, 3050 02:31:05.440 --> 02:31:08.719 the Dradel. Yeah, yeah, a little bit. 3051 02:31:09.000 --> 02:31:12.120 But when you look at every single point on this map, 3052 02:31:12.719 --> 02:31:19.000 it is a monument of some type. Capitol Building, Washington Monument, 3053 02:31:19.079 --> 02:31:23.879 White House, Jefferson Memorial, Lincoln Memorial, Ewogma Memorial, Korea and 3054 02:31:24.079 --> 02:31:27.319 Vietnam Memorial. All of these things are laid out in 3055 02:31:27.639 --> 02:31:32.399 very strategic specific locations, and they do, in fact make 3056 02:31:32.879 --> 02:31:35.040 this sacred geometric pattern. 3057 02:31:35.360 --> 02:31:37.920 I don't think this is by accident, sir, dude. Yeah, 3058 02:31:38.000 --> 02:31:39.840 it says this is another one right here. 3059 02:31:39.920 --> 02:31:43.600 But yeah, within it they have these other images. Like absolutely, 3060 02:31:43.639 --> 02:31:45.200 you can draw these lines any way you want. 3061 02:31:45.280 --> 02:31:48.000 But so so what I'm saying though, it's the ups 3062 02:31:48.159 --> 02:31:49.440 it's the inverted pentagram. 3063 02:31:50.079 --> 02:31:50.440 M hm. 3064 02:31:50.639 --> 02:31:56.959 So pretty interesting, David, the square encompass, Like there's there's 3065 02:31:57.040 --> 02:32:02.600 a lot that you could make with those specifically placed monuments. 3066 02:32:02.680 --> 02:32:05.920 Yes, which is interesting and so and only because I've 3067 02:32:05.959 --> 02:32:08.079 been studying this kind of occult like shit, but just 3068 02:32:08.159 --> 02:32:10.360 looking at it, so right here, at the tip of 3069 02:32:10.799 --> 02:32:13.879 the star, you would have the White House, right, So 3070 02:32:14.000 --> 02:32:17.120 they say that whenever the idea behind the pentagram or 3071 02:32:17.159 --> 02:32:20.399 the inverted pentagram is that whenever you have just a 3072 02:32:20.440 --> 02:32:23.280 regular pentagram, you have the star pointing upwards because you're 3073 02:32:23.319 --> 02:32:25.760 trying to draw in the energy from the heavens, from 3074 02:32:25.799 --> 02:32:28.280 the goods right, from the good side or whatever, the 3075 02:32:28.600 --> 02:32:30.159 white or the light right. 3076 02:32:30.399 --> 02:32:32.440 And usually whatever else is at the tip right. So 3077 02:32:32.600 --> 02:32:34.959 depending on perspective, it might be at the top of it, 3078 02:32:35.200 --> 02:32:36.799 or it might be at the bottom line. 3079 02:32:36.840 --> 02:32:37.799 And that's what I'm trying to say. 3080 02:32:38.040 --> 02:32:41.840 But usually whenever you have the pentagram pointed downward towards something, 3081 02:32:41.879 --> 02:32:45.000 you're you know, you're it's like black magic kind of stuff. 3082 02:32:45.280 --> 02:32:47.639 But what is interesting about this the most is that 3083 02:32:47.840 --> 02:32:51.280 the tip of the star is pointing at the White House, 3084 02:32:51.559 --> 02:32:54.959 almost almost to say that, like the energy from all 3085 02:32:55.079 --> 02:32:59.760 of these different locations are uh, summoning from the White 3086 02:32:59.799 --> 02:33:04.479 House itself. So just the symbolism you know of this, Yeah, 3087 02:33:04.920 --> 02:33:08.520 I mean, is it necessarily and I don't even know 3088 02:33:08.559 --> 02:33:12.639 if I would necessarily say that it's well, you can 3089 02:33:12.680 --> 02:33:14.879 look at that multiplying a cult. You can look at 3090 02:33:14.920 --> 02:33:18.680 it multiple different ways, whether it's like so you have, 3091 02:33:18.959 --> 02:33:24.120 whether it is inverted or correctly you know, the regular pentagram. 3092 02:33:24.680 --> 02:33:26.840 It's like, I guess you could look at it both 3093 02:33:26.920 --> 02:33:30.479 ways and have the White House down in hell where 3094 02:33:30.680 --> 02:33:33.120 all of these other places are drawing energy from. 3095 02:33:33.159 --> 02:33:34.639 You could really look at it both ways. 3096 02:33:35.280 --> 02:33:39.120 I'll say that as per the orientation, the White House 3097 02:33:39.120 --> 02:33:41.920 would be faced is towards the north side of that star. 3098 02:33:44.120 --> 02:33:44.319 Yeah. 3099 02:33:44.360 --> 02:33:46.399 I'm not sure if that even matters though in the 3100 02:33:46.719 --> 02:33:49.319 in the symbolism as no, but that's my point. 3101 02:33:49.360 --> 02:33:52.000 If you're looking north, the White House would be at 3102 02:33:52.040 --> 02:33:55.040 the top of that star. If you're looking towards the south, 3103 02:33:55.120 --> 02:33:56.799 the White House is at the bottom of that star. 3104 02:33:57.000 --> 02:33:59.760 I'm not sure how it was oriented or how they 3105 02:33:59.799 --> 02:34:01.520 did it for this matter, because I could easily just 3106 02:34:01.559 --> 02:34:03.520 flip this image the other way and it would be 3107 02:34:03.600 --> 02:34:06.520 at the top. So yeah, yeah, it's pretty interesting. But 3108 02:34:06.680 --> 02:34:09.840 like right here, I don't know, there's a lot of 3109 02:34:09.920 --> 02:34:12.600 symbolism within the city of DC, dude, not just in 3110 02:34:12.680 --> 02:34:15.239 the way of the streets layout, the way the buildings 3111 02:34:15.280 --> 02:34:19.159 are constructed, the edre on the side of these well, 3112 02:34:19.200 --> 02:34:22.200 I mean the pentagon is a five sided oct you know, 3113 02:34:22.440 --> 02:34:24.520 pentagonal shape, So I mean, yeah, there's gonna be all 3114 02:34:24.639 --> 02:34:26.000 kinds of symbolism within that too. 3115 02:34:26.239 --> 02:34:26.879 We get that. 3116 02:34:27.159 --> 02:34:30.639 Oh yeah, you remember the owl yep? Oh who was 3117 02:34:30.719 --> 02:34:33.120 it that brought that up? That was like a year 3118 02:34:33.200 --> 02:34:35.520 ago or something. Like that that said that there, did 3119 02:34:35.559 --> 02:34:36.879 you know that there's an owl in there? And we 3120 02:34:36.959 --> 02:34:40.719 were talking about the fag to Moloch and stuff. Dude 3121 02:34:40.799 --> 02:34:43.680 wild The symbolism is and and it does make you wonder, 3122 02:34:44.159 --> 02:34:47.520 like what are they really representing whenever you see dual 3123 02:34:47.600 --> 02:34:50.600 citizenship to Israel within a lot of politicians and then 3124 02:34:50.639 --> 02:34:55.280 you got literally like all of d C very a 3125 02:34:55.479 --> 02:34:58.040 cult like at least as far as the symbolism. You 3126 02:34:58.079 --> 02:35:00.280 look at the dollar bill with the pyramid and the 3127 02:35:00.360 --> 02:35:03.040 all seeing I could it be Illuminati? And it just 3128 02:35:03.159 --> 02:35:06.239 makes you wonder the motive and what are they really 3129 02:35:06.319 --> 02:35:09.000 trying to do here? Is it strictly and purely symbolic 3130 02:35:09.239 --> 02:35:12.399 or is there really some extra occult shit going on. 3131 02:35:12.840 --> 02:35:14.040 I think we know the answer to that. 3132 02:35:14.719 --> 02:35:18.280 I think it's both the dual citizenship to Israel thing 3133 02:35:18.479 --> 02:35:20.799 that has nothing to do with the layout of Washington, DC. 3134 02:35:20.920 --> 02:35:22.840 You gotta keep in mind, Israel only became a nation 3135 02:35:23.000 --> 02:35:27.280 nineteen forty eight. DC was redesigned and redrawn after it 3136 02:35:27.399 --> 02:35:29.360 was burned to the ground in the War of eighteen twelve. 3137 02:35:29.559 --> 02:35:32.319 Right eighteen fourteen, DC was burned to the ground with 3138 02:35:32.360 --> 02:35:34.280 the exception of one building, and that was the marine 3139 02:35:34.280 --> 02:35:35.399 Barricks that I was stationed. 3140 02:35:35.680 --> 02:35:37.920 The only reason I say that is because you mentioned 3141 02:35:38.000 --> 02:35:41.079 about how it could be the Kabbalistic tree, which is 3142 02:35:41.239 --> 02:35:42.239 Jewish mysticism. 3143 02:35:42.840 --> 02:35:46.319 It is, it is, but that's because the founders were Freemasons, 3144 02:35:46.479 --> 02:35:49.639 and without the Kabbala, what is freemasonry, right, Alfred Pike. 3145 02:35:50.040 --> 02:35:52.520 So that's that's what I'm saying with that, It wasn't Israeli. 3146 02:35:52.840 --> 02:35:57.079 It was the occult and mystic side, mysticism in general. Yeah, yes, 3147 02:35:57.319 --> 02:35:58.239 exactly exactly. 3148 02:35:59.319 --> 02:36:02.559 But it's act, like you said, Illuminati Freemasons at that 3149 02:36:02.799 --> 02:36:06.280 time when America was found in seventeen seventy six, that's 3150 02:36:06.319 --> 02:36:08.520 when the Illuminati was formed, and it was formed in 3151 02:36:08.559 --> 02:36:11.639 what we would now call Germany. Right later in the 3152 02:36:11.719 --> 02:36:15.479 eighteen hundreds, there was a melding together of the two, 3153 02:36:16.280 --> 02:36:18.959 and that was a different conversation. But again that was 3154 02:36:19.079 --> 02:36:21.520 after DC was already laid out. But a lot of 3155 02:36:21.559 --> 02:36:25.719 the Illuminati symbolism took its notes from Freemasonry because free 3156 02:36:25.799 --> 02:36:29.159 Masonry predated it by a few centuries, right, a good 3157 02:36:29.239 --> 02:36:31.840 few centuries. So it's you know, it's it's kind of 3158 02:36:31.879 --> 02:36:34.319 like saying, how can I put this? 3159 02:36:34.440 --> 02:36:37.120 Well, because the Illuminati was like Bavarian or something like that. 3160 02:36:37.319 --> 02:36:39.760 Wasn't it Bavarian? And that's that's what we would now 3161 02:36:39.840 --> 02:36:42.600 call Germany, right, But that's my point. It was the 3162 02:36:42.639 --> 02:36:45.920 Illuminati was founded by a dude who was not allowed 3163 02:36:45.959 --> 02:36:48.159 to become a Freemason, so he decided to start his 3164 02:36:48.239 --> 02:36:50.639 own clique and said, you know what, fuck y'all, we're 3165 02:36:50.719 --> 02:36:51.639 even better than you. 3166 02:36:51.840 --> 02:36:53.120 If I can't be a part of it, then I'm 3167 02:36:53.120 --> 02:36:54.280 gonna start my own. But bye bye. 3168 02:36:54.600 --> 02:36:57.559 Cut two years later, the Illuminati was outlawed and a 3169 02:36:57.639 --> 02:37:01.719 lot of the members ended up become members of Freemasonry 3170 02:37:01.840 --> 02:37:03.799 because they knew that they could hold secrets, they knew 3171 02:37:03.799 --> 02:37:06.159 that they were of the enlightened variety, all these things, 3172 02:37:06.520 --> 02:37:08.600 and they brought a lot of their own knowledge into 3173 02:37:08.639 --> 02:37:10.840 the Freemasons. And there was a melding together of the 3174 02:37:10.879 --> 02:37:14.680 two in the early to mid eighteen hundreds. But again 3175 02:37:14.840 --> 02:37:18.079 d C was already structured and laid out by that time, 3176 02:37:19.399 --> 02:37:23.639 way more Freemason influenced than Illuminati. But at a certain 3177 02:37:23.680 --> 02:37:26.440 point you cannot really separate one from the other. 3178 02:37:26.479 --> 02:37:30.280 Hard to distinguish the two, really, Yeah, especially as time 3179 02:37:30.399 --> 02:37:33.879 goes on. You know, could they have melted together and 3180 02:37:34.360 --> 02:37:34.559 you know. 3181 02:37:34.680 --> 02:37:38.840 Because they were all working with Eastern and Western occult 3182 02:37:38.920 --> 02:37:41.799 practices and melding them together to find their own meaning 3183 02:37:41.879 --> 02:37:45.479 behind it for their own occult rituals, both Freemasons and Illuminatis, 3184 02:37:45.520 --> 02:37:48.280 and so it was, you know, they at the end 3185 02:37:48.280 --> 02:37:51.280 of the day, it's kind of the same jam. So 3186 02:37:51.360 --> 02:37:53.159 they just kind of meld them together and made a 3187 02:37:53.239 --> 02:37:56.200 new thing. And later on the Shriners became a thing, 3188 02:37:56.319 --> 02:37:59.959 and the York and the Scottish Rite and all these things, 3189 02:38:00.440 --> 02:38:03.079 And which is also why they believe that the city 3190 02:38:03.120 --> 02:38:06.600 of DC is also called the Crescent City Crescent as 3191 02:38:06.639 --> 02:38:07.680 in the Shriner symbol. 3192 02:38:08.319 --> 02:38:12.159 Right, there's levels well, New Orleans called that too. New 3193 02:38:12.280 --> 02:38:13.319 Orleans is called that too. 3194 02:38:13.840 --> 02:38:15.600 It is, And there's a lot of people that believe 3195 02:38:15.680 --> 02:38:18.760 that New Orleans was a Shriner based city as well. 3196 02:38:18.799 --> 02:38:21.479 And I'm like, I hear you do. 3197 02:38:22.600 --> 02:38:26.840 But Freemasons weren't really a part of the founding of 3198 02:38:26.920 --> 02:38:28.360 the city of New Orleans. 3199 02:38:29.000 --> 02:38:29.239 Like that. 3200 02:38:29.479 --> 02:38:33.680 New Orleans is a systemically Catholic town, and the Catholics 3201 02:38:33.719 --> 02:38:36.360 and the Freemasons have a lot of beef against each other. 3202 02:38:36.559 --> 02:38:40.639 That's you know, you know, yeah, take it back out 3203 02:38:40.680 --> 02:38:43.760 of the chat Nick sent this damn near two hours ago. 3204 02:38:43.920 --> 02:38:46.600 This was in reference to the day the Earth stood still. 3205 02:38:46.680 --> 02:38:48.639 The quote is, and he sent the YouTube link to 3206 02:38:48.799 --> 02:38:50.840 but the quote is you say we are on the 3207 02:38:50.879 --> 02:38:52.959 brink of destruction, and you are right. But it is 3208 02:38:53.040 --> 02:38:56.120 only on the brink that people find the will to change, 3209 02:38:56.280 --> 02:38:58.920 only on the precipice that we evolved. This is our moment. 3210 02:38:58.959 --> 02:39:01.239 Don't take that from us. We are close to an answer. 3211 02:39:01.959 --> 02:39:06.479 Class Yeah, Rose Queos said, I seriously believe there is 3212 02:39:06.520 --> 02:39:08.639 so much more to this Earth and the universe as 3213 02:39:08.680 --> 02:39:10.879 a whole, far more complex than we can even begin 3214 02:39:11.000 --> 02:39:13.360 to understand. I do think it's honestly weird to not 3215 02:39:13.559 --> 02:39:16.520 believe that there is life beyond Earth. My sister and 3216 02:39:16.559 --> 02:39:18.520 I have had this debate. I told her God is 3217 02:39:18.559 --> 02:39:21.799 basically an estraterrestrial. He isn't from Earth, so God is 3218 02:39:21.840 --> 02:39:24.399 an alien. Sorry, I am sleep deprived. 3219 02:39:25.559 --> 02:39:27.520 I mean, I've heard that argument before, and I guess 3220 02:39:27.920 --> 02:39:30.200 by definition that is a correct statement. 3221 02:39:30.479 --> 02:39:33.959 I actually said, I believe that God's a schizophrenic personally. 3222 02:39:35.280 --> 02:39:37.559 Why do you say that because he has four point 3223 02:39:37.639 --> 02:39:39.840 six billion personalities and they all think. 3224 02:39:39.760 --> 02:39:40.920 That they're real. Oh my god. 3225 02:39:41.360 --> 02:39:41.399 No. 3226 02:39:42.639 --> 02:39:48.040 Anyway, moving on, Samuel, Well, I. 3227 02:39:48.239 --> 02:39:52.680 When I was younger, I this is gonna be I 3228 02:39:53.079 --> 02:39:55.360 don't mean to say this as a basm. 3229 02:39:55.079 --> 02:39:56.760 Or anything, but when I was young, I kind of 3230 02:39:56.799 --> 02:40:01.520 thought it, Well, that guy was prob he's schizophrenic because 3231 02:40:01.799 --> 02:40:04.399 he says that there's only one God but he's three people, 3232 02:40:05.079 --> 02:40:07.879 which I was like, that was me trying to figure 3233 02:40:07.879 --> 02:40:10.040 out the trinity and I went about it the wrong way. 3234 02:40:10.120 --> 02:40:14.120 But God, God says homosexualty's abomination, but he put the 3235 02:40:14.159 --> 02:40:17.360 mal g spot in the ass. And he says that 3236 02:40:17.840 --> 02:40:22.840 the most beautiful creation was the angel Semio later known 3237 02:40:22.879 --> 02:40:28.840 as Oh for the sun of the morning. Yeah, God, God, 3238 02:40:29.000 --> 02:40:35.000 God said that described Semao as the most beautiful thing 3239 02:40:35.079 --> 02:40:37.719 in existence, And I was like, so is God gay? 3240 02:40:38.079 --> 02:40:42.520 But then I was like, no, that's blasted me. 3241 02:40:42.959 --> 02:40:45.319 And then I've said God, will please forgive me for 3242 02:40:45.479 --> 02:40:47.600 the I please forgive me? 3243 02:40:47.639 --> 02:40:50.959 And then yeah, and I like, how you know you 3244 02:40:51.040 --> 02:40:52.760 would have you could really look at it at a 3245 02:40:52.879 --> 02:40:54.879 multitude of way. Is is he a schizophrenic or is 3246 02:40:54.920 --> 02:40:55.920 he multi dimensional? 3247 02:40:56.120 --> 02:40:56.280 You know? 3248 02:40:56.399 --> 02:40:58.600 And it's it obviously makes more sense. 3249 02:40:58.440 --> 02:41:01.000 That he would be multi dimensional or whatever, right, and 3250 02:41:01.559 --> 02:41:05.040 less schizophrenic because those people need to be put in 3251 02:41:05.120 --> 02:41:06.079 padded rooms. 3252 02:41:06.600 --> 02:41:07.879 I think God would be. 3253 02:41:09.120 --> 02:41:11.760 I think that heaven is like a fourth dimension, and 3254 02:41:12.079 --> 02:41:16.159 I think that that God created everything. He's outside of 3255 02:41:16.319 --> 02:41:19.799 the dimensions or whatever. But I think that when we die, 3256 02:41:20.600 --> 02:41:24.159 like heaven is where it's the good place obviously. Well, 3257 02:41:24.239 --> 02:41:27.079 I think that it's all at the end, it's all 3258 02:41:27.120 --> 02:41:29.040 going to become one, and it all came out of 3259 02:41:29.079 --> 02:41:30.200 the void that is God. 3260 02:41:31.159 --> 02:41:32.840 I agree, you know. 3261 02:41:33.000 --> 02:41:35.200 And as far as like the whole schizophrenic thing, dude, 3262 02:41:35.600 --> 02:41:39.200 I did an episode on Meta Mysteries about schizophrenics, and 3263 02:41:39.239 --> 02:41:42.079 I think that there's actually more going on there than 3264 02:41:42.959 --> 02:41:43.719 just craziness. 3265 02:41:44.360 --> 02:41:46.840 So it depends on the person. It's very case by case, 3266 02:41:47.120 --> 02:41:47.239 you know. 3267 02:41:47.319 --> 02:41:49.200 I mean there are some that like are actually like 3268 02:41:50.079 --> 02:41:52.239 really out of their fucking minds, and then there are 3269 02:41:52.280 --> 02:41:55.559 those that they just perceive the world in a way 3270 02:41:55.719 --> 02:41:58.760 different way and it's not necessarily wrong, but it's not 3271 02:41:58.879 --> 02:41:59.680 necessarily right. 3272 02:42:00.000 --> 02:42:03.159 It's just, yeah, something case by case. 3273 02:42:03.399 --> 02:42:07.159 It's just multiple personalities, and you know, and I don't 3274 02:42:07.200 --> 02:42:09.799 know whether you think that you're receiving some kind of 3275 02:42:10.000 --> 02:42:12.799 message from the spirit world or something like that, Like 3276 02:42:13.479 --> 02:42:16.000 I don't know. That's that's the way I go with it, Like, 3277 02:42:16.120 --> 02:42:20.200 could it be that these people are essentially multiple souls 3278 02:42:20.280 --> 02:42:20.799 in one people. 3279 02:42:20.879 --> 02:42:21.879 That's where you get real weird. 3280 02:42:22.680 --> 02:42:25.120 I mean, but you're not supposed to, like your average 3281 02:42:25.159 --> 02:42:28.840 person shouldn't be hearing multiple voices in their head. That's 3282 02:42:29.040 --> 02:42:30.520 that's not a positive thing. 3283 02:42:30.959 --> 02:42:34.120 Well, I mean, but you say that whenever you talk 3284 02:42:34.200 --> 02:42:36.200 to God that you hear another voice that's not yours. 3285 02:42:37.120 --> 02:42:38.959 So you're kind of schizophrenic in that sense if you 3286 02:42:39.000 --> 02:42:40.000 look at it through that lens. 3287 02:42:40.479 --> 02:42:43.239 But it's not well in that sense. I would say, 3288 02:42:43.239 --> 02:42:45.760 it's not within my head. My ears hear it, but 3289 02:42:46.920 --> 02:42:51.559 that's just my you're actual your your ears either that 3290 02:42:51.639 --> 02:42:55.959 your physical ears hear it. Interesting, Samuel, go ahead, sir, 3291 02:42:56.040 --> 02:42:58.360 you're over there about to have a fucking stroke, raising your. 3292 02:42:58.239 --> 02:42:58.559 Hand, sir. 3293 02:42:59.600 --> 02:43:01.440 Two one. 3294 02:43:02.000 --> 02:43:04.479 The thing that you hear is like in your head. 3295 02:43:04.639 --> 02:43:07.280 Is it like you speaking, but it instead of your 3296 02:43:07.399 --> 02:43:09.879 voice coming out of vobial it's the same language, like 3297 02:43:10.319 --> 02:43:12.520 same volume. You can't yell, you can't wish, feel it, 3298 02:43:12.600 --> 02:43:15.280 but your ears it's as if your ears registered, but 3299 02:43:15.360 --> 02:43:16.120 it's all in your head. 3300 02:43:16.959 --> 02:43:18.600 No, no, no, I mean I know what my internal 3301 02:43:18.680 --> 02:43:21.719 dialogue voice sounds like for sure. You know, and that 3302 02:43:21.920 --> 02:43:24.559 that is there and I've made the joke before. Off, Like, look, 3303 02:43:24.600 --> 02:43:26.840 I got three voices bouncing around in there. Two of 3304 02:43:26.920 --> 02:43:28.360 them are fighting it out, and one of them is 3305 02:43:28.399 --> 02:43:30.840 just trying to find where the fucking smoking section is. 3306 02:43:30.920 --> 02:43:32.799 Like I've I've made these jokes before. 3307 02:43:32.799 --> 02:43:35.840 Okay, and my I'm sorry to cut you off. 3308 02:43:35.879 --> 02:43:38.799 But my second thing is did because I kind of 3309 02:43:38.840 --> 02:43:42.440 feel guilty right now because I said what I said 3310 02:43:42.440 --> 02:43:44.360 when I was young and everything. 3311 02:43:44.479 --> 02:43:45.719 Is that a blasphemy? 3312 02:43:46.879 --> 02:43:47.079 Yes? 3313 02:43:47.639 --> 02:43:50.360 But also God has a sense of humor. He simply 3314 02:43:50.479 --> 02:43:56.559 must look at the platypus, what about me? I meant 3315 02:43:56.600 --> 02:43:59.399 the actual animal, not the spirit animal. But yeah, no, 3316 02:43:59.600 --> 02:44:01.920 even He's just said humor is a powerful tool and 3317 02:44:02.000 --> 02:44:03.159 we should use it, so. 3318 02:44:03.319 --> 02:44:04.040 Don't worry about it. 3319 02:44:04.520 --> 02:44:09.559 I've become a lot more intrinsic, like devoted than I 3320 02:44:09.840 --> 02:44:14.120 was back then, so I'm kind of don't want to 3321 02:44:14.399 --> 02:44:15.120 damn my soul. 3322 02:44:15.280 --> 02:44:15.799 Oh you're not. 3323 02:44:15.959 --> 02:44:19.479 I wouldn't even trip about that. I mean, because here's 3324 02:44:19.520 --> 02:44:21.200 the deal. It's not just about what you say. It's 3325 02:44:21.200 --> 02:44:24.280 also your thoughts. I mean, if God can hear even 3326 02:44:24.360 --> 02:44:27.120 your thoughts, then we're all going to hell. Bro, Like, 3327 02:44:27.200 --> 02:44:28.680 if he's judging the thoughts in that way. 3328 02:44:29.319 --> 02:44:34.879 Look, questioning the situation is not inherently blaspheming, right, It's 3329 02:44:34.920 --> 02:44:37.959 about the spirit behind it. It's about your intention. Are 3330 02:44:38.000 --> 02:44:40.920 you saying, like you said, is God gay? Are you 3331 02:44:41.040 --> 02:44:43.000 saying that because you're like, you know what, fuck him? 3332 02:44:43.120 --> 02:44:45.040 He must be a remember, and you're saying all these 3333 02:44:45.159 --> 02:44:48.559 horrible shit because you're angry at God? Or are you 3334 02:44:48.680 --> 02:44:50.879 just kind of questioning it because you're a human being 3335 02:44:50.959 --> 02:44:53.479 in your mind happened to wander into that direction one day. 3336 02:44:53.600 --> 02:44:56.879 It's a different intent, it's different spirit behind it. 3337 02:44:57.719 --> 02:45:00.040 Well, at the same time I was, I was, and 3338 02:45:00.360 --> 02:45:03.040 I stopped going to touch, I quit being a youth, 3339 02:45:03.120 --> 02:45:06.120 passed and everything, and I just I kind of fell 3340 02:45:06.159 --> 02:45:06.520 out of it. 3341 02:45:06.879 --> 02:45:10.840 So, I mean, everybody has their trials and tribulations. 3342 02:45:10.879 --> 02:45:13.200 Bro, life is a journey, and every day you wake 3343 02:45:13.319 --> 02:45:16.200 up you have another opportunity to do better today than 3344 02:45:16.200 --> 02:45:18.840 you did yesterday to whatever that might mean to you, right, 3345 02:45:18.920 --> 02:45:20.719 if that means your relationship with God, or that means 3346 02:45:20.760 --> 02:45:23.280 your relationship with your spouse, whatever the case is. If 3347 02:45:23.319 --> 02:45:25.639 you woke up this morning and you're currently drawing breath, 3348 02:45:25.719 --> 02:45:27.440 you still have time to make the change that. 3349 02:45:27.479 --> 02:45:30.360 Need to be made in other News. 3350 02:45:30.479 --> 02:45:34.280 The Penguin Spanker said, unpopular opinion, fat bitches are the best. 3351 02:45:34.600 --> 02:45:39.479 They okay, let's go into it. They have more, more. 3352 02:45:39.440 --> 02:45:42.360 Cushion for the pushing and give the best head. Never 3353 02:45:42.479 --> 02:45:44.920 have I ever had head to remember from a skinny, 3354 02:45:44.959 --> 02:45:48.120 petite woman under one hundred and eighty pounds climbing mountains 3355 02:45:48.159 --> 02:45:49.040 till the day I die. 3356 02:45:49.760 --> 02:45:54.639 Good on you, sir, I'm no lie, said, I can't 3357 02:45:54.760 --> 02:45:59.440 find a lie detected in that statement. Damn, that's that's obviously. 3358 02:45:59.680 --> 02:46:02.079 You know, there are exceptions to the rule, but there 3359 02:46:02.120 --> 02:46:05.120 are always as exceptions. That's not like a wall struck down. 3360 02:46:05.280 --> 02:46:08.040 But like you know, and I don't know about under 3361 02:46:08.079 --> 02:46:09.799 one hundred and eighty pounds, I think there is a 3362 02:46:10.319 --> 02:46:13.600 height to weight to proportions ratio that should be considered on. 3363 02:46:13.639 --> 02:46:15.920 That and your five foot nothing. You know, you're four 3364 02:46:16.000 --> 02:46:17.520 foot eight, one hundred and eighty pounds. 3365 02:46:17.760 --> 02:46:21.399 That's a different conversation, right right, Five ten is a 3366 02:46:21.479 --> 02:46:23.200 whole lot different than five to one. 3367 02:46:23.879 --> 02:46:26.680 You know what I'm saying. There's levels to this, Yeah, 3368 02:46:27.159 --> 02:46:27.799 Mikayla said. 3369 02:46:27.840 --> 02:46:29.760 The more I learned about space, the more I can't 3370 02:46:29.799 --> 02:46:33.479 help but think that it all sounds really made up. Yeah, 3371 02:46:33.680 --> 02:46:36.680 sounds about interesting. Said it used to scare the shit 3372 02:46:36.719 --> 02:46:38.079 out of me as a kid. I've listened to a 3373 02:46:38.159 --> 02:46:40.360 lot of theory supporting both sides, and I really don't 3374 02:46:40.399 --> 02:46:43.079 know if I'm one hundred percent either way, nuff said. 3375 02:46:43.120 --> 02:46:45.120 Steph said, it's okay to sit on the fence. It's 3376 02:46:45.200 --> 02:46:49.079 nice being uh, it's nice being about to It's nice 3377 02:46:49.120 --> 02:46:51.719 to appreciate both perspectives and call out the bullshit too. 3378 02:46:52.000 --> 02:46:54.639 Mikayla said, I really love hearing both sides. I accidentally 3379 02:46:54.680 --> 02:46:57.719 slipped down the flat Earth rabbit hole, but it really 3380 02:46:57.799 --> 02:46:59.879 opened up my mind a ton and it's all very fast. 3381 02:47:00.360 --> 02:47:02.760 But now as I homeschool my kids about space, it 3382 02:47:02.799 --> 02:47:05.520 feels weird teaching them the main narrative while I still 3383 02:47:05.559 --> 02:47:07.040 have a ton of questions myself. 3384 02:47:08.239 --> 02:47:11.440 Make understand that, you know, we don't know everything, but 3385 02:47:11.959 --> 02:47:13.520 you do at least need to teach them what they 3386 02:47:13.600 --> 02:47:14.879 need to know to pass the test. 3387 02:47:15.120 --> 02:47:18.159 Good on you for homeschooling, by the way, that's that's 3388 02:47:18.159 --> 02:47:18.600 a task. 3389 02:47:18.719 --> 02:47:19.520 Thank you, Thank you. 3390 02:47:19.760 --> 02:47:22.799 Good for you. You have the patience of a thousand. 3391 02:47:23.479 --> 02:47:26.079 Well sometimes most of the time I try. You know, 3392 02:47:26.319 --> 02:47:27.559 it's not perfect. 3393 02:47:27.239 --> 02:47:30.159 Every day, but I hear you can actually knock all 3394 02:47:30.280 --> 02:47:32.440 that all that school work out in like three hours. 3395 02:47:32.559 --> 02:47:34.440 My sister was doing it for the past year with 3396 02:47:34.639 --> 02:47:38.399 her oldest and it's like she's like, yo, I can 3397 02:47:38.440 --> 02:47:39.959 get all this shit done in like three hours. 3398 02:47:40.000 --> 02:47:42.520 Why the fuck are kids in school for eight for real? 3399 02:47:42.719 --> 02:47:45.760 I mean my oldest is first grade. It's like pre 3400 02:47:45.959 --> 02:47:49.600 K through first grade, so like it's pretty basic stuff. 3401 02:47:49.719 --> 02:47:53.360 So I'm not teaching them anything super crazy like reading, writing, handwriting, 3402 02:47:53.440 --> 02:47:53.600 you know. 3403 02:47:54.559 --> 02:47:55.319 But yeah, I say, like. 3404 02:47:55.399 --> 02:47:58.799 Two hours, like and I get to sit down individually 3405 02:47:58.879 --> 02:48:00.959 with each of them and still have group work and 3406 02:48:01.040 --> 02:48:04.360 then yeah, and you can turn anything into a lesson. 3407 02:48:04.280 --> 02:48:06.520 So and you may as well do it anyway because 3408 02:48:06.559 --> 02:48:09.959 you think about it, like, I mean, anybody that can obviously, 3409 02:48:10.360 --> 02:48:13.479 but if you think about it, dude, my daughter by 3410 02:48:13.719 --> 02:48:15.879 my last year that I was living in Louisiana, so 3411 02:48:16.000 --> 02:48:17.719 like a year and a half ago, we would have 3412 02:48:17.879 --> 02:48:20.280 her and she would come home with I shit, you 3413 02:48:20.399 --> 02:48:23.600 not two or three hours worth of homework? So why 3414 02:48:23.639 --> 02:48:25.479 are we having two or three hours worth of homework 3415 02:48:25.559 --> 02:48:27.520 on top of eight hours worth of school? Whenever you 3416 02:48:27.559 --> 02:48:29.319 can get all that banged out in two or three 3417 02:48:29.360 --> 02:48:30.799 hours with homeschooling. 3418 02:48:30.479 --> 02:48:30.639 You know. 3419 02:48:30.799 --> 02:48:32.200 Oh yeah, I totally agree. 3420 02:48:32.719 --> 02:48:35.920 I have waged war against the fucking school board for this. 3421 02:48:36.120 --> 02:48:39.600 Homework is bullshit. It is aside from okay, you got a. 3422 02:48:39.639 --> 02:48:43.040 Project that like maybe wants a term or wants a 3423 02:48:44.000 --> 02:48:46.040 quarter or whatever the case. They have like a project 3424 02:48:46.079 --> 02:48:47.600 that they need to do at home and then bring 3425 02:48:47.760 --> 02:48:49.840 in and present. Okay, well I could fuck with you 3426 02:48:49.879 --> 02:48:50.079 on this. 3427 02:48:50.239 --> 02:48:52.079 You're working on over the course of a month or 3428 02:48:52.120 --> 02:48:53.399 two months or something like that. 3429 02:48:54.159 --> 02:48:58.159 But every fucking day coming home to have an hour 3430 02:48:58.280 --> 02:49:00.280 or two's worth of homework Like, I'm sorry. 3431 02:49:00.479 --> 02:49:03.799 I got active ass kids, and I would argue. 3432 02:49:03.600 --> 02:49:07.799 That they're enrichment aka the sports and activities, the extracurriculars 3433 02:49:07.799 --> 02:49:09.319 that they're involved in are. 3434 02:49:09.399 --> 02:49:11.639 As important as their schoolwork. 3435 02:49:12.280 --> 02:49:15.600 So you, mister and miss teaching lady and man in 3436 02:49:15.680 --> 02:49:18.600 person whatever the fuck that can't do your job in 3437 02:49:18.639 --> 02:49:22.040 the allotted amount of time does not constitute you taking 3438 02:49:22.280 --> 02:49:25.799 my time away for that purpose. When I was an electrician, 3439 02:49:25.879 --> 02:49:28.879 that would be like me going home and rewiring up 3440 02:49:29.000 --> 02:49:30.840 something that I didn't have time to finish while I 3441 02:49:30.959 --> 02:49:32.959 was at work. Sounds like I need to do better 3442 02:49:33.079 --> 02:49:39.040 time management, bro. I agree, it's bullshit, but anyway, yeah, 3443 02:49:39.159 --> 02:49:41.479 uh that it's for the extra practice. 3444 02:49:41.959 --> 02:49:44.399 It sounds like you need to be a more effective teacher. 3445 02:49:44.520 --> 02:49:44.680 Then. 3446 02:49:45.799 --> 02:49:46.000 Yeah. 3447 02:49:46.079 --> 02:49:49.399 Actually, what I hear is so one of my friends 3448 02:49:49.440 --> 02:49:52.159 he sends his kids to this private school. It's like 3449 02:49:52.239 --> 02:49:56.479 a Christian private school, right, and he said that he 3450 02:49:56.600 --> 02:49:58.639 loves the format of the way they do it over there, 3451 02:49:58.879 --> 02:50:01.440 because they don't have, you know, all seven or eight 3452 02:50:01.520 --> 02:50:06.000 classes every single day. They'll divide it like three classes 3453 02:50:06.079 --> 02:50:09.000 this semester, three classes the next semester, And that way 3454 02:50:09.040 --> 02:50:10.639 you're not having to come home and do all this 3455 02:50:10.719 --> 02:50:12.799 extra homework because you already spent two hours in the 3456 02:50:12.799 --> 02:50:14.040 classroom on that subject. 3457 02:50:14.680 --> 02:50:16.399 That's how it was for us in high school. Dude, 3458 02:50:17.000 --> 02:50:18.959 half the year was four classes. The other half the 3459 02:50:19.040 --> 02:50:21.239 year was the other four classes. It was fucking excellent. 3460 02:50:22.120 --> 02:50:22.280 You know. 3461 02:50:22.440 --> 02:50:24.879 That didn't start until the year after I graduated. 3462 02:50:24.920 --> 02:50:29.079 I'm pissed, really. I was at santaml for years and 3463 02:50:29.200 --> 02:50:31.559 years before I got there. Well, I went to Dutchtown 3464 02:50:31.680 --> 02:50:33.120 so school for rejects over there. 3465 02:50:33.159 --> 02:50:37.760 Dude, spirit Animal said, if I have a son, I'm 3466 02:50:37.840 --> 02:50:43.200 naming him Crowley or Romulus or Remus, perhaps not Crowley. 3467 02:50:44.079 --> 02:50:47.040 If you're gonna go Romulus and Remus. I personally would 3468 02:50:47.040 --> 02:50:50.079 go Romulus Remus got killed, stung it out. Do what 3469 02:50:50.159 --> 02:50:52.440 you want with that information, said, If I have a daughter, 3470 02:50:52.719 --> 02:50:57.920 Artemis or Cordelia, middle name cenis after my great grandma Samuel. 3471 02:50:58.440 --> 02:51:02.000 Samuel equals God has heard interesting. 3472 02:51:02.200 --> 02:51:07.440 M God, which oh funny enough. My dad actually had 3473 02:51:07.520 --> 02:51:08.680 me wrote up as twins. 3474 02:51:09.280 --> 02:51:09.399 Oh. 3475 02:51:09.479 --> 02:51:12.000 He had to h burst certificates with drew up for 3476 02:51:12.120 --> 02:51:14.479 me because he didn't light the way that it's felt one. 3477 02:51:14.760 --> 02:51:16.360 That's the story my dad told me. 3478 02:51:17.040 --> 02:51:19.680 My mom also said that she chose the way my 3479 02:51:19.799 --> 02:51:23.159 name is felt and everything because she wanted it to 3480 02:51:23.239 --> 02:51:27.399 be different. But uh, I came out like almost a 3481 02:51:27.520 --> 02:51:28.239 month pretty mauch. 3482 02:51:28.239 --> 02:51:28.399 Sure. 3483 02:51:28.440 --> 02:51:30.399 They got in a car, work and everything, and my 3484 02:51:30.639 --> 02:51:32.280 really cool cold wrapped around my neck. 3485 02:51:32.600 --> 02:51:33.959 So I was a miracle baby. 3486 02:51:35.079 --> 02:51:38.600 Oh yeah, I dude, white boy wizard said, my ex 3487 02:51:38.680 --> 02:51:41.000 wife changed her mind at the very last minute. She said, 3488 02:51:41.040 --> 02:51:43.120 I want to name him after you instead, which was 3489 02:51:43.200 --> 02:51:45.479 something I never brought up. I'll always be grateful to 3490 02:51:45.559 --> 02:51:45.959 her for that. 3491 02:51:46.079 --> 02:51:46.239 One. 3492 02:51:46.680 --> 02:51:48.719 Dude, to have a junior, that's awesome, Jacob, you got 3493 02:51:48.760 --> 02:51:51.200 one of those. No, I don't have this, it's not 3494 02:51:51.319 --> 02:51:53.680 a junior. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought Junior would be 3495 02:51:53.680 --> 02:51:57.000 too redneck. No shade to the juniors out there, but yeah, 3496 02:51:57.040 --> 02:51:57.600 I have u. 3497 02:51:58.079 --> 02:52:01.479 I named him Jacob moop Se because I thought that'd 3498 02:52:01.479 --> 02:52:04.319 be a little more regal. Plus, if it's possible for 3499 02:52:04.399 --> 02:52:06.920 me to pass down my noble title to him, it 3500 02:52:07.040 --> 02:52:07.959 sounds better that way. 3501 02:52:09.280 --> 02:52:10.680 And so do you ever call him deuce? 3502 02:52:11.760 --> 02:52:14.079 I dude, I was thinking like I would want to 3503 02:52:14.159 --> 02:52:16.319 call him the nickname of the deuce, But the problem 3504 02:52:16.479 --> 02:52:18.719 is a duce could also mean a shit. 3505 02:52:19.000 --> 02:52:22.079 Yeah you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, ah, fuck, okay, fine, 3506 02:52:22.559 --> 02:52:24.600 but uh, I mean, like Jacob is that much better 3507 02:52:24.639 --> 02:52:27.319 because you got Jacob's ladders? Yeah? 3508 02:52:27.399 --> 02:52:30.360 Well true, and we actually have a Jacob's ladder. As 3509 02:52:30.399 --> 02:52:32.680 a matter of fact, we have oh not the piercings. 3510 02:52:32.280 --> 02:52:32.520 The toy. 3511 02:52:32.639 --> 02:52:37.000 Oh god, okay, wow wow, Yeah, contact matters on that one. 3512 02:52:37.079 --> 02:52:40.959 There's a wooden toy with ribbons that is a Jacob's ladder, 3513 02:52:40.959 --> 02:52:42.760 and we have a few of them in the house 3514 02:52:42.879 --> 02:52:43.239 right now. 3515 02:52:43.440 --> 02:52:44.280 So yeah, there's that. 3516 02:52:45.319 --> 02:52:47.360 Then there was Piercings that was created by a bunch 3517 02:52:47.399 --> 02:52:50.520 of freaky, deaky motherfuckers, and I don't know how the 3518 02:52:50.600 --> 02:52:52.680 hell that got associated with Jacob's ladder. 3519 02:52:53.040 --> 02:52:53.959 But sure enough it's a. 3520 02:52:53.959 --> 02:52:57.319 Thing, a piercing all the way up your dick. Like 3521 02:52:58.079 --> 02:52:59.399 that's that's madness. 3522 02:53:00.280 --> 02:53:06.319 I cannot imagine that that feels good in practical use. 3523 02:53:06.520 --> 02:53:09.000 Well, maybe the spirit animal knows what's your thoughts there 3524 02:53:09.079 --> 02:53:12.360 on that the Jacob's ladder, and tell me you have that, please, 3525 02:53:14.520 --> 02:53:16.079 I do not, though I will. 3526 02:53:16.520 --> 02:53:17.200 I'll pay for it. 3527 02:53:18.319 --> 02:53:18.719 You get it. 3528 02:53:19.159 --> 02:53:21.760 Oh my god, he's thinking about it. He took a second. 3529 02:53:22.360 --> 02:53:23.959 He took a second to think about it. 3530 02:53:24.079 --> 02:53:30.799 Bro' No, no, I don't even need proof. You don't 3531 02:53:30.840 --> 02:53:32.920 need to show me a picture. But you know, once 3532 02:53:32.959 --> 02:53:34.440 I see that you have ice on your nuts, I'll 3533 02:53:34.520 --> 02:53:39.799 know I'd cry. I'd cry, Yeah, yeah, I probably would. 3534 02:53:40.479 --> 02:53:43.239 I just I feel like that's asking for something to 3535 02:53:43.280 --> 02:53:45.959 get stretched in a way it's not supposed to get stretched. 3536 02:53:46.239 --> 02:53:49.600 You know. The the reason why it's called that is 3537 02:53:49.639 --> 02:53:54.079 because when you when it, the fattest is right, because 3538 02:53:54.159 --> 02:53:56.280 it would be big, it would go up and then 3539 02:53:56.319 --> 02:53:58.079 it would go into smaller. 3540 02:53:58.879 --> 02:54:01.680 It looks like it's going on in ascending to the heavens. 3541 02:54:02.040 --> 02:54:03.000 Dude, what happens? 3542 02:54:03.079 --> 02:54:07.079 What happens whenever you get a Jacob's Ladder? Piercing, and 3543 02:54:07.520 --> 02:54:11.719 you go out and it's snowing outside. It's stretching it 3544 02:54:11.760 --> 02:54:13.520 out in ways that it shouldn't be stretched out. 3545 02:54:14.159 --> 02:54:16.360 You mean condensing it together? 3546 02:54:18.799 --> 02:54:21.959 Yeah, I mean you just have You'll just hear some 3547 02:54:22.239 --> 02:54:26.159 some tinks happening, and then, uh, I guess perhaps the 3548 02:54:26.239 --> 02:54:29.559 metali agitate itself and you might end up enjoying it. 3549 02:54:29.680 --> 02:54:30.680 I don't fucking know. 3550 02:54:31.559 --> 02:54:33.959 Depending on how coda gets, you could lose it to 3551 02:54:34.079 --> 02:54:34.639 FoST bite. 3552 02:54:35.639 --> 02:54:36.159 Oh my god. 3553 02:54:36.280 --> 02:54:38.680 Yeah, that's metal in your dick. That makes you more 3554 02:54:38.760 --> 02:54:40.079 susceptible to frostbite. 3555 02:54:40.159 --> 02:54:44.559 Yeah, dude, imagine you get that metal and your dick, 3556 02:54:44.799 --> 02:54:48.639 and you know you're with your lady who has feelings 3557 02:54:48.680 --> 02:54:49.159 in her mouth. 3558 02:54:49.719 --> 02:54:53.000 Probably he and that tink tink might feel a little different. 3559 02:54:54.079 --> 02:54:57.079 I'm at an old guy of job site, Pops. I 3560 02:54:57.479 --> 02:54:59.799 doubt he's listening with God. If you're listening out there, 3561 02:55:00.319 --> 02:55:01.959 love you to death. You should call me sometime. 3562 02:55:02.559 --> 02:55:04.360 This old man had a dick. 3563 02:55:04.280 --> 02:55:08.000 Piercing and he was very very proud about that, and 3564 02:55:08.120 --> 02:55:12.280 it was at towards the top, but it actually was 3565 02:55:12.319 --> 02:55:13.959 a bar and there was a slit to where the 3566 02:55:14.000 --> 02:55:17.440 bar could go up and down like slide, not far, 3567 02:55:17.639 --> 02:55:21.120 but just about a solid inch. And I'm like, Pops, why, 3568 02:55:21.840 --> 02:55:23.920 He's like, because, man, you can put you a ring 3569 02:55:24.079 --> 02:55:26.479 right here and right here on your fingers and it 3570 02:55:26.680 --> 02:55:30.000 agitates the shit out of that motherfucker boy, let me 3571 02:55:30.120 --> 02:55:32.040 tell you. And I jack off way more now I 3572 02:55:32.159 --> 02:55:32.719 get pushes. 3573 02:55:32.760 --> 02:55:34.159 So that was that of a piercing for me. 3574 02:55:34.399 --> 02:55:35.200 I did that for me. 3575 02:55:35.280 --> 02:55:38.239 And I'm like, Pops, what the fuck, dude, is this 3576 02:55:38.440 --> 02:55:39.840 for real? This is real life right now? 3577 02:55:39.959 --> 02:55:41.959 Oh, I swear to God so and I wouldn't lie 3578 02:55:41.959 --> 02:55:43.840 about something stuck in my dick. And I'm like, I 3579 02:55:43.959 --> 02:55:46.440 believe you, but like, what the fuck? 3580 02:55:46.479 --> 02:55:46.719 He's like? 3581 02:55:46.760 --> 02:55:48.200 If you ever see you'll see it a lot in 3582 02:55:48.280 --> 02:55:50.760 a skateboard culture as well. If you ever see a 3583 02:55:50.879 --> 02:55:54.159 man walking around and he has a ring on both 3584 02:55:54.239 --> 02:55:57.440 of these knuckles on his pointer finger, you bet your 3585 02:55:57.479 --> 02:55:58.120 ass you'd got. 3586 02:55:58.079 --> 02:56:00.959 A friendle them piercing. That's a I don't know if 3587 02:56:01.000 --> 02:56:02.799 that's a correct term for it, but he used some 3588 02:56:02.920 --> 02:56:07.120 term that I'd never heard before. That's the one. Damn. 3589 02:56:07.319 --> 02:56:11.879 I do have a dec NB. Yeah, and apparently that 3590 02:56:12.079 --> 02:56:12.520 is a thing. 3591 02:56:13.120 --> 02:56:17.559 And uh, you get a metal bar just rocking when 3592 02:56:17.600 --> 02:56:20.520 you when you're getting after and apparently it uh, it 3593 02:56:20.959 --> 02:56:21.920 does it for some people. 3594 02:56:22.959 --> 02:56:26.159 I'm willing to just take his word for that. I 3595 02:56:26.479 --> 02:56:29.239 shown up am Pops was he was a real one. 3596 02:56:29.920 --> 02:56:32.479 He was some might say the realist, you know. 3597 02:56:33.200 --> 02:56:36.719 Michayla said, uh, naming your kids after Packers, those poor 3598 02:56:36.799 --> 02:56:38.440 kiddos hashtag dumbars. 3599 02:56:39.360 --> 02:56:39.559 Nah. 3600 02:56:42.040 --> 02:56:43.959 White Boy Wizard said, oh, you're one of those, even 3601 02:56:44.040 --> 02:56:46.760 worse than me. She goes loud and crowd Sir. White 3602 02:56:46.799 --> 02:56:51.079 Boy Wizard says, go hawks, referring to the Seahawks. Spirit 3603 02:56:51.120 --> 02:56:54.159 Animals said, roll tied. Nobody was talking about college football. 3604 02:56:53.879 --> 02:56:56.879 By nobody was talking about the fucking Tide. 3605 02:56:57.040 --> 02:57:04.319 Sam so funny dirty Sanchez Uh. San Jez said, name 3606 02:57:04.399 --> 02:57:10.399 my son, Nicholas chame caim uh because how badass is Oh? 3607 02:57:10.959 --> 02:57:13.840 Like chain? Okay, chain nice? 3608 02:57:14.399 --> 02:57:16.799 Imagine my whrror when I heard a Jewish person info 3609 02:57:16.959 --> 02:57:20.799 me that it was Chi. I'm with am with the 3610 02:57:21.120 --> 02:57:22.799 phlem oh like him, Yeah. 3611 02:57:22.719 --> 02:57:26.280 Yeah, yeah, Nicholas, hi Am. It's like no chain and 3612 02:57:26.360 --> 02:57:28.840 it's like no I I am. It's like, oh fuck. 3613 02:57:29.440 --> 02:57:32.559 Spirit Animal said, everyone knows that America's favorite is. 3614 02:57:32.600 --> 02:57:34.600 The Devil Dogs. This is a fact. 3615 02:57:37.719 --> 02:57:40.639 Let's see, he said, we stray further from God every day. 3616 02:57:41.040 --> 02:57:43.920 The guy that kept bothering me in b MP, I 3617 02:57:44.399 --> 02:57:47.760 sewed him back. I sewed him into his rack. Then 3618 02:57:47.799 --> 02:57:49.760 I beat him with the sock with soap. He didn't 3619 02:57:49.760 --> 02:57:50.479 pick on me anymore. 3620 02:57:52.040 --> 02:57:54.079 I feel like these are being that fast. It's sewing. 3621 02:57:54.200 --> 02:57:54.719 Holy shit. 3622 02:57:55.799 --> 02:57:57.879 I feel like these are stories that are easily said 3623 02:57:57.920 --> 02:57:59.440 whenever the other party is not around. 3624 02:57:59.479 --> 02:58:06.239 Samuel I so so I he pissed me off and 3625 02:58:06.360 --> 02:58:07.520 his ship was. 3626 02:58:07.799 --> 02:58:09.399 He passed me off about two weeks straight and I 3627 02:58:09.440 --> 02:58:11.879 finally had enough of it. So I waited till he 3628 02:58:12.760 --> 02:58:13.319 passed out. 3629 02:58:13.479 --> 02:58:16.559 I fucking crawled under my I got out of my rack, 3630 02:58:16.959 --> 02:58:18.600 had my song kit, put it in my mouth, and 3631 02:58:18.719 --> 02:58:21.520 I cralled. I bet he crawed under the rack about 3632 02:58:21.639 --> 02:58:25.159 four sets of racks, and then I I literally sewed 3633 02:58:25.319 --> 02:58:26.959 him his sheets. 3634 02:58:26.600 --> 02:58:28.559 To his rack while he was in them, and then 3635 02:58:28.600 --> 02:58:30.799 I beat him with with with the sock. 3636 02:58:32.319 --> 02:58:34.079 See what we did our dry shower wing. 3637 02:58:34.159 --> 02:58:36.479 That dude happened to be on the top bunk, so 3638 02:58:36.600 --> 02:58:38.479 we were just able to grab his sheets and like 3639 02:58:38.600 --> 02:58:39.879 hold him down in that way. 3640 02:58:40.159 --> 02:58:43.079 But show show that more than one way to skin 3641 02:58:43.159 --> 02:58:43.799 a cat, as they. 3642 02:58:43.760 --> 02:58:48.280 Say, to the point, I hated him, and your boy 3643 02:58:48.440 --> 02:58:49.760 has time on his hands. 3644 02:58:50.479 --> 02:58:53.079 It'd be like that spirit animal you posted. 3645 02:58:54.479 --> 02:58:59.639 This is actually interesting because he he asked the Internet 3646 02:59:00.280 --> 02:59:04.559 about Paul Walker's girlfriend and it said her name was 3647 02:59:04.799 --> 02:59:09.680 Jasmine Pilchered Gosnel. So it says Paul Walker's girlfriend at 3648 02:59:09.680 --> 02:59:13.760 the time of his death was Jasmine Pilchered Gosnel. According 3649 02:59:13.799 --> 02:59:16.760 to reports, she was twenty three when Walker died in 3650 02:59:16.840 --> 02:59:20.079 twenty thirteen, and they had begun dating for They had 3651 02:59:20.120 --> 02:59:22.479 been dating for seven years, meaning that she would have 3652 02:59:22.559 --> 02:59:25.319 been sixteen when their relationship began and he would have 3653 02:59:25.360 --> 02:59:30.239 been thirty three. Oh fuck, So do you remember that 3654 02:59:30.399 --> 02:59:33.639 they said all the reports that are like, yeah, they 3655 02:59:33.760 --> 02:59:36.079 killed Paul Walker because he was about to expose all 3656 02:59:36.079 --> 02:59:38.200 the pedophilia and all that shit in Hollywood. It's like, 3657 02:59:38.440 --> 02:59:42.840 motherfucker was a pedophile himself. Dang thirty three and sixteen. Bro, 3658 02:59:43.000 --> 02:59:43.760 I'm thirty five. 3659 02:59:44.680 --> 02:59:49.239 Yeah, No, you learned something new every day. Fuck Paul Walker, dude, dude, 3660 02:59:49.280 --> 02:59:54.319 same thing goes for oh, what's his name? Seinfeld? Jerry Seinfeld? 3661 02:59:54.360 --> 02:59:57.159 Seinfeld was dating dude. He's let me find out. I 3662 02:59:57.239 --> 02:59:59.079 believe she was even younger than sixteen. 3663 03:00:00.120 --> 03:00:01.399 Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. 3664 03:00:01.479 --> 03:00:03.000 Hold on when you told him when he was filming, 3665 03:00:03.040 --> 03:00:05.079 when he was like a stand up comic, Like, what 3666 03:00:05.200 --> 03:00:05.959 are you talking about here? 3667 03:00:06.719 --> 03:00:10.840 Like his current wife was a lot younger than him 3668 03:00:10.840 --> 03:00:12.559 whenever they first start dating. I'm going to figure out 3669 03:00:14.000 --> 03:00:14.920 the exact. 3670 03:00:14.680 --> 03:00:18.799 Date, Jerry Seinfeld, pedophile. Just put that into the AIQ 3671 03:00:19.000 --> 03:00:20.040 and see what comes up. 3672 03:00:20.879 --> 03:00:26.120 I believe he married her. Oh that makes it less bad, 3673 03:00:26.200 --> 03:00:26.879 but still bad. 3674 03:00:27.959 --> 03:00:33.040 So Jerry Seinfeld is eighty three, his wife is fifty three, 3675 03:00:33.760 --> 03:00:35.559 so it's a thirty year difference. 3676 03:00:37.559 --> 03:00:39.760 But how old was she when they started dating? That's 3677 03:00:39.879 --> 03:00:44.239 the question when they started dad. 3678 03:00:44.879 --> 03:00:47.479 Because if he was fifty three when they started and 3679 03:00:47.600 --> 03:00:51.239 she was, yeah, she was twenty three, then like that's 3680 03:00:51.520 --> 03:00:54.200 that's okay. It's definitely outside of the realm of the 3681 03:00:54.239 --> 03:00:57.639 creep method for anybody who doesn't know the youngest age 3682 03:00:57.719 --> 03:01:00.840 that you are allowed to date, and it not be okay, 3683 03:01:00.879 --> 03:01:02.360 and it's it's not considered creepy. 3684 03:01:02.959 --> 03:01:07.600 Take your age cut in half at seven, okay. Sorry. 3685 03:01:07.719 --> 03:01:09.479 So the woman that he's with now is not the 3686 03:01:09.520 --> 03:01:13.239 same one that I'm referring to, so which even still 3687 03:01:13.280 --> 03:01:16.760 he likes him younger. But whenever they started dating she 3688 03:01:17.319 --> 03:01:22.840 was twenty six. Okay, okay, but it does say that 3689 03:01:23.200 --> 03:01:27.760 he had his girlfriend when they met, he was thirty 3690 03:01:27.879 --> 03:01:30.200 nine and he was dating a seventeen year old, So 3691 03:01:30.479 --> 03:01:34.760 that's even worse. Actually, seventeen is right there on that border, dude, 3692 03:01:34.799 --> 03:01:38.200 But everybody's considered nine though, that's what I'm saying. 3693 03:01:38.239 --> 03:01:40.920 I still consider it unacceptable behavior. 3694 03:01:41.079 --> 03:01:43.440 So still a twenty two year difference between him and 3695 03:01:43.520 --> 03:01:46.120 his ex girlfriend and a thirty year difference between him 3696 03:01:46.120 --> 03:01:46.920 and his now wife. 3697 03:01:48.280 --> 03:01:52.159 Man, Yeah, that's that's fucked now. Seventeen was she like 3698 03:01:52.840 --> 03:01:55.399 a few weeks away from turning eighteen. That doesn't make 3699 03:01:55.479 --> 03:01:59.319 it that much better. But I mean, you know, at 3700 03:01:59.399 --> 03:02:02.479 least there's a little bit of some leeway. But god damn, dude, 3701 03:02:02.520 --> 03:02:05.639 that's now with that kind of age gap, though it's not, 3702 03:02:06.440 --> 03:02:10.239 the age gap negates the leeway that there possibly could be. 3703 03:02:10.719 --> 03:02:10.760 No. 3704 03:02:12.239 --> 03:02:16.319 Yeah, it says Jerry Seinfeld's wife Jessica met in a 3705 03:02:16.479 --> 03:02:20.719 pretty controversial way. You know what, Well, you know, we'll 3706 03:02:20.719 --> 03:02:22.280 probably do an episode on that. We don't have time. 3707 03:02:22.319 --> 03:02:23.760 I want to get to some some of the rest 3708 03:02:23.760 --> 03:02:28.840 of these comments before we wrap it up. FU Paul Walker, though, Yeah. 3709 03:02:29.000 --> 03:02:33.239 For sure, uh, white boy Wizard said, mine means tumult 3710 03:02:33.520 --> 03:02:39.559 or to riot talking about his name nice ways in 3711 03:02:39.719 --> 03:02:43.559 persuasion or the spirit animal or the conspiracy platypus or 3712 03:02:43.639 --> 03:02:46.639 Samuel said in eighteen fourteen, we took a little trip 3713 03:02:46.680 --> 03:02:49.760 along the Colonel Jackson down the Mighty Mississip. 3714 03:02:50.040 --> 03:02:52.040 We took a little bacon, and we took the. 3715 03:02:52.600 --> 03:02:54.680 Beans, and we fought the bloody bridge in the town 3716 03:02:54.719 --> 03:02:57.159 in New Orleans. Oh yeah, that's a that's a classic. 3717 03:02:57.639 --> 03:02:59.680 Okay, So I didn't know that one. 3718 03:03:01.680 --> 03:03:02.360 You'll welcome. 3719 03:03:02.840 --> 03:03:04.680 I'm giving you a little bit of a Southern coach 3720 03:03:04.760 --> 03:03:05.159 and bubble. 3721 03:03:05.719 --> 03:03:12.159 You know that song, Jonathan no in nineteen fourteen along 3722 03:03:12.200 --> 03:03:14.319 with Barne Jackson, Down the Mine and Mississip. You never 3723 03:03:14.360 --> 03:03:14.840 heard this song. 3724 03:03:15.000 --> 03:03:18.760 I can't say I have, sir, Damn, I'm not. I 3725 03:03:18.879 --> 03:03:21.879 wasn't raised in the South. Okay, that's fair, That's not 3726 03:03:22.040 --> 03:03:26.200 my thing. God is Love said so Paul Walker was 3727 03:03:26.280 --> 03:03:31.319 a regular, uh Nick Pedo fed Fluentes. We're going to 3728 03:03:31.360 --> 03:03:34.600 Capitol Hill then marrying a sixteen year old dude. 3729 03:03:35.920 --> 03:03:40.239 Getting some flak for the Nick Flintes comment that was made. 3730 03:03:40.399 --> 03:03:40.799 Come at me. 3731 03:03:40.879 --> 03:03:43.799 There's been a few people that you wish you were 3732 03:03:43.840 --> 03:03:46.120 big enough to actually come at Nick flint as. 3733 03:03:46.159 --> 03:03:47.719 Y'all are so off base. You don't know what he's 3734 03:03:47.760 --> 03:03:51.079 talking about. And it's like, oh, he absolutely dog walked 3735 03:03:51.120 --> 03:03:54.680 Candace in that interview. Don I'm like, that is a 3736 03:03:54.840 --> 03:03:58.559 bold statement to make, Nick twines Candace still come at 3737 03:03:58.639 --> 03:04:02.319 me and get these hands. Brother, Yeah, he's annoying. 3738 03:04:03.360 --> 03:04:03.479 Uh. 3739 03:04:03.680 --> 03:04:06.520 Nick Foyn says is known to identify as an in cell, 3740 03:04:06.600 --> 03:04:11.200 which means he claims to be involuntarily celibate and does 3741 03:04:11.319 --> 03:04:12.200 not have a girlfriend. 3742 03:04:12.360 --> 03:04:15.239 Okay, yeah, orvel We've talked about that before. 3743 03:04:15.319 --> 03:04:18.120 In cell culture, they have like a actual hatred of 3744 03:04:18.319 --> 03:04:22.159 women because women find them repulsive. But they only find 3745 03:04:22.200 --> 03:04:25.440 them repulsive because they act like fucking in cells. 3746 03:04:25.520 --> 03:04:26.440 Dude. Hold up. 3747 03:04:26.639 --> 03:04:30.559 He has made controversial statements about relationships and marriage, including 3748 03:04:30.719 --> 03:04:35.079 expressing a preference for marrying very young women. How young 3749 03:04:35.079 --> 03:04:36.639 are we talking about here, NICKI. 3750 03:04:37.239 --> 03:04:37.639 Just said it. 3751 03:04:37.680 --> 03:04:40.280 God has love said he said everyone should marry sixteen 3752 03:04:40.319 --> 03:04:43.200 year olds when you're at least thirty plus. Okay, So 3753 03:04:43.399 --> 03:04:46.719 once again, I'm sorry Nick Flint, as you some of 3754 03:04:46.719 --> 03:04:51.360 the things you say might be, you know, objectively true, 3755 03:04:51.520 --> 03:04:54.559 but there's a lot of things that you say that 3756 03:04:55.079 --> 03:04:57.360 have put you in the position that you're in right now. 3757 03:04:57.399 --> 03:04:59.600 I don't exactly have sympathy for you, dude, Yeah, dude, 3758 03:04:59.639 --> 03:05:00.440 I mean you want to. 3759 03:05:00.600 --> 03:05:03.319 I know that the term white supremacist gets thrown at 3760 03:05:03.399 --> 03:05:07.520 around a lot nowadays, but no, he is. He actually is. 3761 03:05:08.319 --> 03:05:10.600 So that's the that's the problem I got for pieces 3762 03:05:10.600 --> 03:05:13.239 of shit like him. And also he had a recent 3763 03:05:13.319 --> 03:05:17.000 quote that said, uh, I totally see myself accidentally killing 3764 03:05:17.079 --> 03:05:20.840 my wife, so uh yeah, I'm sorry. 3765 03:05:21.000 --> 03:05:22.319 I don't like the fucking guy. 3766 03:05:22.600 --> 03:05:25.280 If I ever saw him, I would I would ask 3767 03:05:25.360 --> 03:05:29.479 him to catch these hands. Personally, I don't like his cocky, 3768 03:05:29.520 --> 03:05:31.760 fucking attitude. I don't like that he's he thinks that 3769 03:05:31.840 --> 03:05:33.879 he's no at all. I don't like that he dude, 3770 03:05:33.920 --> 03:05:38.360 he speaks from such a privileged platform and like his 3771 03:05:38.479 --> 03:05:39.399 words should be gospel. 3772 03:05:39.440 --> 03:05:42.000 I'm like, fuck you, bro, Like that's I don't like 3773 03:05:42.079 --> 03:05:43.200 Asian persuasion. 3774 03:05:43.479 --> 03:05:47.000 Spirit animal Sam has said, Oh, Nick Fintes has streamed 3775 03:05:47.079 --> 03:05:50.680 gay porn not once, not twice, but thrice, and I 3776 03:05:50.760 --> 03:05:54.079 gotta be honest, to the shock of no one, I'm sorry, 3777 03:05:54.079 --> 03:05:56.319 did anybody listen to him speak and think that like 3778 03:05:56.760 --> 03:06:00.159 he's straight, he's a he claims to be an inset well, 3779 03:06:00.879 --> 03:06:04.280 but that's it's not exactly accurate. I'm pretty sure he's 3780 03:06:04.280 --> 03:06:07.840 a closeted homosexual, and that might also be why he's 3781 03:06:07.920 --> 03:06:12.680 repulsed by women and has a visceral dislike of them. 3782 03:06:12.799 --> 03:06:15.440 I'm sorry, I don't know that for a fact, but 3783 03:06:15.680 --> 03:06:16.600 that checks out to me. 3784 03:06:16.840 --> 03:06:19.959 Everything he says is for the clicks. That's why I 3785 03:06:20.040 --> 03:06:21.639 don't fuck with him. He's not genuine. 3786 03:06:22.200 --> 03:06:23.959 But the other side of that is just because you're 3787 03:06:24.000 --> 03:06:25.600 gay doesn't mean you have to hate women, And just 3788 03:06:25.639 --> 03:06:27.719 because you're white doesn't mean you have to be a supremacist. 3789 03:06:27.760 --> 03:06:32.399 Look at Milo Uanopolis. He was called a white supremacist. 3790 03:06:32.680 --> 03:06:35.520 He married a black guy. To quote him, he said, 3791 03:06:35.559 --> 03:06:37.440 how much black dick do I have to suck before 3792 03:06:37.479 --> 03:06:39.479 people start calling me a non racist? 3793 03:06:39.559 --> 03:06:43.120 And it's like, god damn it, my low, Holy fuck. 3794 03:06:42.920 --> 03:06:45.120 I didn't realize it was like that dude, but then 3795 03:06:45.760 --> 03:06:48.879 also a homosexual, and they kept calling. 3796 03:06:48.719 --> 03:06:51.360 Him all of these other horrible things and blah blah blah. 3797 03:06:51.399 --> 03:06:53.159 Yeah, I know he's turned catholic, he's turned straight in 3798 03:06:53.239 --> 03:06:55.799 all these things, and he's seen as an outcast by 3799 03:06:55.879 --> 03:06:57.559 the conservative movement these days. 3800 03:06:58.120 --> 03:07:00.559 But my point is he never hates women. 3801 03:07:00.959 --> 03:07:04.280 Even when he was openly and outwardly gay, he had 3802 03:07:04.479 --> 03:07:07.520 very good relationships with a lot of female talking heads 3803 03:07:07.600 --> 03:07:08.840 of his same political party. 3804 03:07:08.879 --> 03:07:10.920 He has some disagreements with some, no doubt. 3805 03:07:11.600 --> 03:07:13.520 But just because you're gay doesn't mean you have to 3806 03:07:13.600 --> 03:07:15.440 hate women, And just because your white doesn't have to 3807 03:07:15.440 --> 03:07:16.159 make you a racist. 3808 03:07:16.200 --> 03:07:18.920 What's nick Quinn says his fucking excuse, He is just 3809 03:07:19.040 --> 03:07:19.360 a bitch. 3810 03:07:20.280 --> 03:07:24.719 Yeah, he really is, uh, Samuel, If you would, sir, 3811 03:07:24.959 --> 03:07:26.840 give off your famous send off. 3812 03:07:26.920 --> 03:07:33.760 Sir, to be the chaos let's rup from the Creek Boys. 3813 03:07:35.479 --> 03:07:37.719 Much love you cut out in the beginning of it, 3814 03:07:37.840 --> 03:07:42.239 but we know what you meant to say, brother, good things, Jacob. 3815 03:07:42.440 --> 03:07:44.600 Do you want to give your send off sir? 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