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<v Speaker 1>This is Pod Popular Podcast for the People, the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Love Debate. It's the Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Great Love Debate.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi again, everyone's Brian. How We welcome to the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Love Debate, the world's number one dating a relationship podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty fifteen, I am back here in the very

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<v Speaker 1>fine and fancy studios of Pod Popular Podcast for the People.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the one in Palm Beach Gardens. I have

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<v Speaker 1>not been here in a while. I do come to

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<v Speaker 1>Florida a lot. I come to Florida a lot for business,

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<v Speaker 1>and I gotta tell you, I still feel like every

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<v Speaker 1>time I come to Florida, I feel like I'm landing

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<v Speaker 1>on vacation. Even though there's a lot of stuff in Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the traffic and I'm working most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Florida does feel like vacation. And maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>the New Yorker in me. I don't know, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>the winter time. Quick announcement, Our five hundredth podcast episode

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<v Speaker 1>is a couple of weeks away. You guys send a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of submissions on what we should do about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have decided what we should do about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very excited about what we should do about it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a special show. It's gonna be special to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very special guest. I think you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna like it. It's a little bit of looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of where we are now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of looking ahead. But I think you

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<v Speaker 1>guys will like it. Today. I'm also excited we are

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<v Speaker 1>doing what. I put out a little apb on the socials,

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<v Speaker 1>on the interwebs to you guys because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do what we're calling a second chance mail bag, which

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<v Speaker 1>means we asked you guys for emails, social media posts,

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<v Speaker 1>submissions about a relationship that may or may not have

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<v Speaker 1>gone bad but it definitely ended and you get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to relive or change or take back things to

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<v Speaker 1>possibly make it work out or last least a little longer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically, you can back to the future style roll back,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what you would have done. So this

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<v Speaker 1>mail bag doesn't lend itself to some of the craziness

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<v Speaker 1>of some of the listener letters we bring on. I

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<v Speaker 1>have peaked at these. There's a sense of sweetness to

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<v Speaker 1>a few of them, and because I needed a little

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<v Speaker 1>extra touch of sweetness to help me out. I brought

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<v Speaker 1>in somebody who I think is reasonable. I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>level headed. It's been married a long long time. She's

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<v Speaker 1>filled with logic. Who could help you guys out in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that I could not. She's the host of

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<v Speaker 1>the wildly popular Cinnamon Effect podcast, which I was lucky

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<v Speaker 1>and privileged enough to be on last year. Last year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I always say, we noticed the blonde, but we remember

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<v Speaker 1>the redhead. Kimberly hand, how are.

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<v Speaker 3>You hey, I'm good. How are you, Brian good?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome, Thanks, you welcome the Great Love Debate. So you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get the gist of what we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do here today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I hope that I'm reasonable, reasonable enough.

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<v Speaker 1>For you or you might be wildly controversial. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>As Sinatra saying, you know regrets, I've had a few,

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<v Speaker 1>but that again too few to mention.

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<v Speaker 2>We shall see.

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<v Speaker 3>I read the letters.

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<v Speaker 1>They've not read the letters, so we got we always

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<v Speaker 1>picked three from the men and three from the women.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to agree with each other. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to agree with them. You're just going to give

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<v Speaker 1>your take on what you think they should have done

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<v Speaker 1>what you would have done. I don't know you ready,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, Okay. The first one is from Lilyan via

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<v Speaker 1>our Facebook page. She facebooked it to us. I dated

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<v Speaker 1>this guy back in Chicago. He was great, We were great,

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was great. The only issue was our dietary differences.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a typical frat boy meat eater. He practically

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<v Speaker 1>ate ribs for breakfast. He was in good shape, was out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was in a phase where I was all

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<v Speaker 1>about healthy, worked out three times a day, and was

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<v Speaker 1>a strict vegetarian. And it became an issue where I

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<v Speaker 1>which broke down some of our communication, and he refused

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<v Speaker 1>to mix in something like a salad once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>health reasons, I needed more protein and honestly, I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>love pork, chicken, beef, just about everything he ate every

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<v Speaker 1>single day. I wish I wasn't so stubborn then, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I had a chance to eat an Italian

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<v Speaker 1>beef sandwich with him. Oh No, See that does that

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<v Speaker 1>happens a lot where people want the other person's journey

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<v Speaker 1>habits superstition lifestyle to match theirs perfectly. They drink a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to drink a lot. There this, they're this.

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<v Speaker 1>They like to watch the Chicago Bulls. I like to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the Chicago bulls. If the smell of meat bothered

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<v Speaker 1>you and he insisted on, you know, firing up the barbecue,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one thing. But if you thought that this was

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<v Speaker 1>really a deal breaker, and now you're looking back, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to share meat with him. Ay, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you miss other things besides the meat, but b yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't break up over that.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I feel like I actually have a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>say on this topic. It was like the perfect listener

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<v Speaker 2>letter for me to answer because I've been vegan, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been vegetarian, I've I am now a meat eater. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I was vegan, I didn't expect I made a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of like vegan dishes, but I didn't expect my husband,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to follow along. I knew it was something

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<v Speaker 2>kind of different, and my husband's a hunter, so he

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<v Speaker 2>was not giving up the meat and I was totally

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<v Speaker 2>okay with it. I think this is like a case

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<v Speaker 2>of you do you you know I'm going to now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gluten free. I don't drink alcohol, so I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>following kind of a different rule for my own life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you have to let people be on

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<v Speaker 2>their own journey. And so I get that she might

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<v Speaker 2>be feeling regretful about breaking up with him, because you.

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<v Speaker 3>See, you don't have to be so rigid.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't to be rigid with yourself, but don't be

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<v Speaker 2>rigid with your significant other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, it's not it's not happening in the

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<v Speaker 1>way you want it to. In the moment, you want

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<v Speaker 1>everything to be absolutely perfect, and so the meat at

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<v Speaker 1>the time might have been a metaphor for something else

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<v Speaker 1>that bothered you. And maybe as you've grown older, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it really isn't about the meat. You've gotten some distance

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<v Speaker 1>from the situation, things tend to happen again. Maybe you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it like it was just the meat, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he did a whole lot of other things, and you're,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, single in Chicago, and I don't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we want to pick out that one thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that one thing is the one thing. So I

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<v Speaker 1>could see kind of both sides of this, where you think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>all I had to do is go back and eat

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<v Speaker 1>meat and everything would have been fine. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>everything was fine besides the meat, maybe she would have

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<v Speaker 1>done that. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>A great point. That's a great point. She's really going

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<v Speaker 2>to break up with him because he's, you know, eating

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<v Speaker 2>meat ribs for breakfast.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't have to touch the meat, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Might break up with him if you had ribs for breakfast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love ribs. That's a little excessed.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked at a barbecue restaurant when I was in

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<v Speaker 2>You did college, and so I haven't eaten a rib.

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<v Speaker 1>Since you were a former NFL cheerleader. Is that correct? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>What were there? Was it like they say they weighed

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<v Speaker 1>you and all that, or wasn't that strict?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It was pretty strict.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the Netflix Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader? I have

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<v Speaker 2>special It's pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Much like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you really do get a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Snapshot of what that whole experience is like through that show.

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<v Speaker 1>The cheerleaders don't have to do the a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of the meat and greets that they used

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<v Speaker 1>to because the guys used to get grabby. The guys

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<v Speaker 1>muffin top. The cheerleaders do not they would do that right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we usually had someone there that would keep people started,

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<v Speaker 2>to keep people at a distance, you know, a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>keep hands off.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did have to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in my uniform and I did have to

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<v Speaker 2>stop somewhere for gas. And it was amazing that people really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, want to come up to you. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to you know. It was an interesting kind of experience

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<v Speaker 2>of being somewhat known, but you're not because you take

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<v Speaker 2>the uniform off and then nobody knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you are. Well, sometimes that happens with the players too. Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, the next one, this is uh is from

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<v Speaker 1>a guy I will not reveal who. First, I really

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<v Speaker 1>had the best girl. She was amazing, beautiful, fun, smart,

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<v Speaker 1>took a dream upper tunity with a company in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>We lived in the Bay Area at the time, not

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<v Speaker 1>that big of a difference, and I thought she would

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<v Speaker 1>come with me. She said her family was nearby in

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<v Speaker 1>the San Francisco area, so she didn't want to leave anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I left for the job that di has became too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Our plans of seeing each other every weekend soon turned

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<v Speaker 1>Took a year for all that to happen, but it

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<v Speaker 1>only took her a month to start dating someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I hear she's moving with him to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I either wish I never took this job,

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity in Atlanta that's been still in Seattle, he says. Oh. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, San Francisco, the Bay Area is not Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>They're different. Now that being said, there are hour and

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<v Speaker 1>the job over the girl. But I've never really had

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<v Speaker 1>a job, so maybe I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't move to Seattle. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>The kicker at the end was she maybe her parents

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<v Speaker 1>have died. I don't know her family.

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<v Speaker 2>She did move to Atlanta, Yeah, but Atlanta's totally different

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she was willing to leave her family.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing that she couldn't leave because of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But then she did leave. That's the that's theh at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this. His regret is like she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really it wasn't the family. She just didn't feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>that this was the guy to pack up and leave for. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because he was clearly going to take the job.

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<v Speaker 1>So part of that is the conversation. Was there a

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<v Speaker 1>I won't leave if this affects us. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the conversation?

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<v Speaker 2>Again, It's not about the meat, right, It's not about

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it wasn't about the place. It was more about

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Or she's like being him every other weekend or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>and it's always special, it's kind of easy to make

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really get into that flow in a real

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<v Speaker 1>feel of things when you're just kind of seeing somebody

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<v Speaker 1>twice a month, and then you've seen somebody you know

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<v Speaker 1>twenty times a year, and then where are you going?

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<v Speaker 2>You've probably done that. I feel like you've done that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have done that, and I'm always aware of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It really takes confidence communications. I'm not saying long distance

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<v Speaker 1>relationships can't work. I'm saying that you don't really know

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<v Speaker 3>Completely agree mornings with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a lot of long distance with my now

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, it was fun, And then you're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Is this going anywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we really compatible when we spend more time together,

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<v Speaker 2>And what we still realize twenty years later is that

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<v Speaker 1>Once it was great, she's gone in four day bursts,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, perfect kind I kind of liked it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, the long distance relationship is. It's tricky. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she wasn't up for it then and a year later,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she's the guy made her come. I mean, people can.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how old you are, Ben, or how

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<v Speaker 1>old she is, but people can rapidly grow up in

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<v Speaker 1>their twenties and thirties. And bike bulbs gonna happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>and and whatever. I'm on her side. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>I should take sides here, Ben, Like too bad. You

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't left. You shouldn't have left without really figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>how this is gonna work. Not like hey, I'm leaving.

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<v Speaker 1>See I'll fly you up a couple times, like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you watch this Ben?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think though, Ben, if it's meant to be,

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<v Speaker 2>you will find your way back to each other. I

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<v Speaker 2>really do believe that. Like set it free when they

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<v Speaker 2>say about love, set it free, if it comes back

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<v Speaker 2>to you, she is free. She's in Atlanta, she's with

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<v Speaker 2>another guy. But if it's meant to be, they will

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<v Speaker 2>find their way back to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what you do. Statistically, that might not work

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<v Speaker 1>out either, if she doesn't marry the Atlanta guy. You

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<v Speaker 1>wait it out, and you moved to Atlanta because if

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<v Speaker 1>you moved to Atlanta for her, that would mean something

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<v Speaker 1>to me or to you. Might be crazy stalker, I

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<v Speaker 1>already broke up with you kind of thing. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I say, I say go for it, I

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<v Speaker 1>would go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I would go for it too, all right, track her down?

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. The next one, this is from Verra

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<v Speaker 1>via Facebook page. Again. Oh Jesus, if I had a

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<v Speaker 1>second chance, I would have gone back in time and

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<v Speaker 1>screwed my upstairs neighbor earlier. Then I would have realized

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<v Speaker 1>what great sex did for my confidence and self esteem,

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<v Speaker 1>not to mention my body, and I would have left

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<v Speaker 1>the loser. I was with a lot quicker instead of

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<v Speaker 1>finding excuses to sneak away while he played video games.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, so she got with the upstairs name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she wished she had started that earlier. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if she ended up with him, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>she's She would have lowed. I say that a lot. I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not about screwing the upstairs neighbor. People. When

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<v Speaker 1>I moved from New York to LA, people ask me like,

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<v Speaker 1>when when did you move to LA? Or why decide

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<v Speaker 1>to move to LA? Do you have any regrets? And

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<v Speaker 1>I go. My only regret is I didn't leave earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I left New York quicker. After nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm never leaving. I was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm here and whatever, and then three years later

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<v Speaker 1>I was gone. Yeah, it was a great move for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought that all the time, like I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had done something quicker. You always wish you would

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<v Speaker 1>break up with somebody quicker, Always comment quicker. If it

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<v Speaker 1>got to the point where you were sneaking the minute

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<v Speaker 1>you think I need to sneak away because he's playing

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<v Speaker 1>video games, the conversation needs to happen before the sneak away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't just leave with the video games and go bang

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<v Speaker 1>the neighbor and then let that go on, Like sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and say, like, if you continue to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go visit the neighbor. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely think like this cheating is not the answer. Ever,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Video games would annoy me too. I

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<v Speaker 2>think like a grown man playing video games, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>You could do it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a child, it makes more sense maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing video games together, But a grown man who's

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<v Speaker 2>really into video games.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>It is an ongoing problem. When we do married Great

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<v Speaker 1>Love debate shows, it is the number one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>comes up. Video games im porn. The reason why these

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<v Speaker 1>men play them, at least my analysis of it, is

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<v Speaker 1>because they feel like they are losing in lots of

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<v Speaker 1>other aspects of their life, including the relationship, and they

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I can win at this, I can escape

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<v Speaker 1>in this, and there's a score I can get, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are levels I can achieve that I'm not getting

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<v Speaker 1>in my personal life. So you always have to look

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<v Speaker 1>at like, why are they playing the video games? What

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<v Speaker 1>is about the video games that is stimulating in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that clearly she has a sex drive cannot You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to look at the video games as the

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<v Speaker 1>symptom problem. So don't do that, Verra again, don't go

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<v Speaker 1>back in time and start screwing them earlier. Go back

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<v Speaker 1>in time and say I wish I had the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about the video game. Yes, does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't repeat the pattern because what if the upstairs name, upstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>Neighbor, certainly he likes PlayStation, Yeah, he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing video games, or he's doing something else you don't like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna move on to the downstairs neighbor.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know you need to move to a

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<v Speaker 1>different building, or maybe we all need to move to

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<v Speaker 1>your building. I don't know, I could get messyes, just

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<v Speaker 1>in case we need to play pay the rent at

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<v Speaker 1>Vera's building. We have to take a quick break because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pay the bills around here. I'm with Kimberly Hand.

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<v Speaker 1>We are breaking down the Second Chance mailbag and we

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<v Speaker 1>will be back right after this. And we are back

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<v Speaker 1>all right. The next one is from JR. In Orlando.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, JR.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on a first date with a girl last year.

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<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. We ended up at some dive bar

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<v Speaker 1>at three am, playing eighty songs on the jukebox and

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<v Speaker 1>comparing favorites. She picked the song only You by Yaz

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<v Speaker 1>and said, if we ever got serious, this was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be our song. I didn't pay any attention to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of wanted to make out with her,

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<v Speaker 1>which I did, and we started dating. Three months later.

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<v Speaker 1>She asked if I remembered that night. I said, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said what is our song? And I couldn't remember,

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<v Speaker 1>and said every rose has its thorn As a joke,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't think it was funny. She reminded me of

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<v Speaker 1>the song and said she couldn't trust me to remember

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<v Speaker 1>things that are important to her. I guess she might

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<v Speaker 1>have been a bit crazy, But if I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do it again, I might not have remembered her song,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would have maybe picked nineties music.

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<v Speaker 3>At least he didn't pick Witchy Woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know that's true. Only use a good song.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a little obscure, like if you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that song, who's yaz I was?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm eighties and I am not sure of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're gonna maybe we'll google it. Everybody. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pull up a little clip while we continue to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Glad to hear the song.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what what do you think the That's a

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<v Speaker 1>tough one for her to call back. He could just

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<v Speaker 1>say them like, oh my god, I was drunk, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember. But I also see her point. She that's

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<v Speaker 1>a if a girl said that to me on a

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<v Speaker 1>first date, I'm the kind of guy that would like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Some guys will be freaked out. I'm the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>guy who likes the girl seeing what Howie looks like

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<v Speaker 1>in her in her penmanship on the first date. I

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<v Speaker 1>want them to think optimistically. You know, I'm that person,

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<v Speaker 1>but some people, you know. So she was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, this is gonna be our song. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's sweet. I like it. I think I would remember, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had girls on first dates walk me by a

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry store and say this is the kind of rings

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<v Speaker 1>I like. I just think it's fun and playful. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think, well, I don't. I'm okay with that. I

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<v Speaker 1>get it's not for everybody, but I know you're this

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<v Speaker 1>song hold.

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<v Speaker 3>On, keep yeah, I think okay, let's hear this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a rights violation.

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<v Speaker 2>Like okay, First of all, that's kind of a terrible song,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little slow, but it's only you. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sweet. I get it. But if you're not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with that song, there's no way you would remember three

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<v Speaker 1>months down the road, if you were drinking at a

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<v Speaker 1>jukebox or whatever. There's no way you didn't pick something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you didn't pick Billy Jean, like, you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pick like something song that everybody's gonna know and remember, yeah, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's wrong. He fucked up. She was probably

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<v Speaker 1>always gonna look for something to catch him in. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she was setting that trap. I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's sweet, the idea of it. You can't break up

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<v Speaker 1>with him over it, you gotta give him another shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a little a little unrealistic. I think

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<v Speaker 2>she was a little over the top in breaking up

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<v Speaker 2>with him. I mean again, it's not about the song.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's not about.

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<v Speaker 1>The is or something for something else. Yeah, this is like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not perfect. Everybody's gonna if the whole thing was

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<v Speaker 1>a test and you were plotting this out and he

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<v Speaker 1>failed the test, that's a rough test. Because that song,

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<v Speaker 1>although I know it, I might not remember three months later.

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<v Speaker 2>I love music, I love concerts, I love I love Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know the artists and names of songs like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>good at that stuff. I don't know about that. That

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<v Speaker 2>is so obscure.

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<v Speaker 1>Never married a song, And I guarantee you we could

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<v Speaker 1>bring in many, many happily married couples right now who

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<v Speaker 1>cannot one or both of them cannot remember the song

422
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<v Speaker 1>they dance do with your wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would completely agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to my cousin's, my cousin's daughter who's still

425
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<v Speaker 1>my cousin, wedding a few weeks ago, and she walked,

426
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<v Speaker 1>when you walk down the aisle, that's what's it called?

427
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<v Speaker 1>When you leave? What's the exit song called? When you're

428
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<v Speaker 1>now bride and grew? When you walk down what is

429
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<v Speaker 1>that called? She walked out to shook me all night long?

430
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<v Speaker 1>Ohe The look on my cousin her father's face was like,

431
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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, the best damn woman that I've ever seen.

432
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<v Speaker 1>Like she owned it. It was fucking badass. And I

433
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<v Speaker 1>was like, I know, and I was wondering if her husband,

434
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<v Speaker 1>the new groom, I'm like, can you handle her? So?

435
00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:10.319
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, people have raised some eyebrows, but

436
00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:13.039
<v Speaker 1>it was like, good for her. Yeah, keep cranky ezy

437
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<v Speaker 1>DC to walk out of that. I love that ceremony.

438
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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what?

439
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<v Speaker 2>You make your own roles and do something spunky. We

440
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<v Speaker 2>danced to Aerosmith's Crazy was our first dance, which is.

441
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<v Speaker 1>Crazy and amazing or kind of the same song with

442
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<v Speaker 1>their difference.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

444
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not a singer, but oh that was good.

445
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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to fire that up. You did justice, Yeah,

446
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<v Speaker 1>you remember, but a lot of couples probably wouldn't remember,

447
00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and he was drunk and it was three am, and

448
00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:39.799
<v Speaker 1>you're a jukebox and you're trying to kiss her like

449
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<v Speaker 1>you're pretty much you know, gonna say what, yes, I'll

450
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<v Speaker 1>remember a song whatever, Like I'm sorry about I appreciate

451
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<v Speaker 1>the gesture by her that she was willing to pick

452
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<v Speaker 1>a song. That's the nutty romantic in me. I like that,

453
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<v Speaker 1>But also like, give them a fucking break. You know.

454
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<v Speaker 3>First state you're nervous. I know, likervous.

455
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<v Speaker 1>I might not even remember the girl's name, and that

456
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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean I don't like her.

457
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were too busy.

458
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<v Speaker 1>Bearing her beautiful blue eyes exactly, you know, all right.

459
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<v Speaker 1>Next one, this is from Penny from Don't Try to

460
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<v Speaker 1>Find Me.

461
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, oh Penny, Okay, okay.

462
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think I wanted kids. I knew they were

463
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<v Speaker 1>important to him. I just didn't think at that point

464
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<v Speaker 1>in my life and career it was the right time.

465
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<v Speaker 1>And I was pretty sure I never wanted them at all.

466
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<v Speaker 1>So we broke up because I knew he wanted to

467
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<v Speaker 1>be a dad. Anyway. Three months after we broke up,

468
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<v Speaker 1>I got pregnant, kept the baby, didn't stay with the

469
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<v Speaker 1>father very long. But I love being a mom more

470
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<v Speaker 1>than anything in the world. I have a stay at

471
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<v Speaker 1>home job, my mom lives nearby to help out. I

472
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<v Speaker 1>have everything, but the guy, and that guy was the

473
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<v Speaker 1>right guy. He is dating somebody else now. I'm sure

474
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<v Speaker 1>they're going to settle down. Just wish I knew then

475
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<v Speaker 1>what I know now, we would have been one happy family.

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<v Speaker 3>That feels like a knife in the heart. That feels

477
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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so I've been I talked about this a

479
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<v Speaker 1>few times. People always say to me, like, didn't you

480
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<v Speaker 1>ever want kids? Because I don't have kids, And my

481
00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:11.039
<v Speaker 1>answer was always like, if she wanted kids, I would

482
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<v Speaker 1>have had kids. Whoever the she would have bet at

483
00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:15.559
<v Speaker 1>the time, And people are like, well, what does that mean?

484
00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Is it her decision? I go because if she says

485
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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't want kids and I love her, I have

486
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<v Speaker 1>to be prepared that she's going to change her mind,

487
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<v Speaker 1>which happens a lot a lot of women at like

488
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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, when they're having fun and they love their body,

489
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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to have it, and then they change

490
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<v Speaker 1>their mind. I to be prepared for that, And I

491
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<v Speaker 1>also feeled I always had to be prepared for the

492
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<v Speaker 1>possibility that she just couldn't have them, or I couldn't

493
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<v Speaker 1>have them, or we couldn't have them. If you're getting

494
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<v Speaker 1>married and the only thing is like if we don't

495
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<v Speaker 1>have kids, this whole thing's going to fall apart. I've

496
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<v Speaker 1>always had issues with that. Is that wrong to have

497
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<v Speaker 1>issues with that? Like, I'm not going to divorce you

498
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<v Speaker 1>because you can't have kids, and I wouldn't want to

499
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<v Speaker 1>be divorced because my sperm count was low. You know,

500
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but if that is your image of

501
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know on this because I'm somebody who didn't

502
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<v Speaker 1>have kids because mostly idated girls who didn't want kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think if you can't if you're in a

504
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<v Speaker 2>relationship and you can't have kids, you're in that journey together.

505
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<v Speaker 2>But if you're in a relationship and one person really

506
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<v Speaker 2>knows that they have always wanted to be a mother

507
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<v Speaker 2>or a father and you're with somebody who doesn't, yeah,

508
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<v Speaker 2>I think you I think I would move I would

509
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<v Speaker 2>move on to somebody else.

510
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<v Speaker 3>If I thought.

511
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<v Speaker 1>I think people change their minds. I think you're right.

512
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<v Speaker 3>I did change my mind actually, from.

513
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<v Speaker 1>Not wanting them to want them. Yeah, well, you're in

514
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<v Speaker 1>cheerleader it's tough to be a cheerleader with a belly.

515
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean this was way later, but so I

516
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<v Speaker 2>ended up having you know, my son at thirty Well,

517
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<v Speaker 2>I was almost thirty seven, so I did wait quite

518
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<v Speaker 2>a while. Best decision I ever made. I mean, that's

519
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<v Speaker 2>not the point of this, but it was like, how

520
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<v Speaker 2>long were you married first along? Well, I was with

521
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<v Speaker 2>him almost ten years and we were we were married

522
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<v Speaker 2>about six seven.

523
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<v Speaker 1>And not to get too much in your personal life,

524
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<v Speaker 1>was it an ongoing discussion do we want to have kids?

525
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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of funny.

526
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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

527
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<v Speaker 2>I don't drink alcohol now, but we were at we

528
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<v Speaker 2>were in Napa out A vineyards and we'd had a

529
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<v Speaker 2>lot of red wine and there was a concert going

530
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<v Speaker 2>on and this guy was singing. The artist was Billy

531
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Dean and he was singing about when they were little.

532
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<v Speaker 2>I think it was the name of the song, about

533
00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, kids being little and you know all this stuff.

534
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<v Speaker 2>And I looked at my husband, and you know, it

535
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.079
<v Speaker 2>was probably the wine talking, but I was like.

536
00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:23.279
<v Speaker 3>I want a baby, and he was like what.

537
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<v Speaker 2>Like this guy, you know, kind of came out of

538
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<v Speaker 2>nowhere but started the conversation, and I really stuck.

539
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<v Speaker 3>With that, you know.

540
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<v Speaker 1>And how old were you then?

541
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<v Speaker 2>I was thirty. I was probably thirty five, thirty five

542
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<v Speaker 2>and a half.

543
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<v Speaker 1>That's when those voices happened.

544
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, so I think it depends the age.

545
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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, like it could happen, you know,

546
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:47.319
<v Speaker 1>there is And again, this is the most complicated conversation

547
00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:49.119
<v Speaker 1>anybody could have, So I don't really like to dive

548
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to be into it. But sometimes it's hard to have

549
00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>a baby, and sometimes it's hard to you know. And

550
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<v Speaker 1>so most men want to be dads because it's a

551
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<v Speaker 1>really good gig compared to being a mom. I think

552
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<v Speaker 1>most moms want to be moms. Being a dad is

553
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:03.839
<v Speaker 1>a great gig. It's one hundred percent approval rating. I

554
00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>have never met a dad who didn't like it. Yeah,

555
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I've met some moms who are just so buried in

556
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the muck that they can't even see straight. But the

557
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>dad's always like it, you know, And you have to

558
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:17.440
<v Speaker 1>decide how important that is. If he was harping on

559
00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:19.279
<v Speaker 1>it all the time, like I out of have kids

560
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:21.319
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and you know, maybe she just wasn't ready

561
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<v Speaker 1>to make that decision until she was faced with it.

562
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>And she gets knocked up and has the kid and whatever,

563
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:27.799
<v Speaker 1>and he moved on. I know this is this is

564
00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:31.680
<v Speaker 1>one is both sweet and heartbreaking. But you love being

565
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:36.400
<v Speaker 1>a mom, yes, and so you got some love there.

566
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe this guy isn't the guy, like move on? You know.

567
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Motherhood is her journey honestly, because she's now a mom,

568
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:46.599
<v Speaker 2>she loves it. Yeah, there's a whole nother if she

569
00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 2>were to try and get that guy back. Maybe she

570
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:52.119
<v Speaker 2>really thinks he's the one and wants to get him back.

571
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Now he's a stepfather to someone else's child.

572
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<v Speaker 3>Is she willing to have another child with him?

573
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Complicated dynamics. Do you want to? Or you're like,

574
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>we're good with this kid by this other random? Yeah,

575
00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:09.599
<v Speaker 1>I guess he's a random. He's not around anymore. That guy. Yeah,

576
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.839
<v Speaker 1>that guy. It's a different dynamic. Penny. I feel for you,

577
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:16.759
<v Speaker 1>but I'm mostly like, congrats. If you love being a

578
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:20.200
<v Speaker 1>mom more than anything in the world, just be grateful.

579
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<v Speaker 2>Penny, lean into being a mom and focus on that,

580
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:27.359
<v Speaker 2>and I think the right partner will come into play.

581
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Penny, when you sign your thing, don't try

582
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to find me. That's a little surly, you know, Like,

583
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:35.440
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing like you should be open to

584
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he can't find you either. I don't know what

585
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.039
<v Speaker 1>you're signing that for. We're sweet, we agreed with you,

586
00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:41.599
<v Speaker 1>we gave you a little, we sprinkled you with the

587
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>cinnamon effect, and then you give me that.

588
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's bad function because if you do want love,

589
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 2>you don't sign don't try and find me.

590
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you should say open to the world.

591
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 2>That's just like a bad, bad message going out there,

592
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:54.240
<v Speaker 2>all right.

593
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<v Speaker 1>Last one, you know that game where you give each

594
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<v Speaker 1>other a hall pass about a hypothetical situation where you

595
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>infest one person who would you like to sleep with

596
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>who isn't your partner? Well, we played that game and

597
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.599
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned her old roommate from junior year. So yes,

598
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.279
<v Speaker 1>we met in college, but we didn't actually start dating

599
00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>until ten years later. We reconnected a reunion, so who

600
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>cares about her old college roommate. Anyway, she was furious

601
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and we broke up over it. My regret isn't that

602
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I told her who my hall pass was. My regret

603
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>is that I didn't try harder for the roommate back

604
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>in the day. Michael from University of Oregon class of

605
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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve.

606
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<v Speaker 2>Wow, okay, throwing it out there.

607
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>The hall pass game is dangerous. The fantasy thing is

608
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:40.799
<v Speaker 1>dangerous unless you have something weird, and even that might

609
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.279
<v Speaker 1>be dangerous. I had a girlfriend asked me once, who

610
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>is my person? And I said, Elizabeth Vargas, like the

611
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>news chick from my twenty twenty.

612
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:50.839
<v Speaker 3>Okay, interesting toys.

613
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>I like it though, right, Yeah, And she just thought

614
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I was weird. It doesn't matter. I like her. It's pretty.

615
00:27:57.720 --> 00:27:59.640
<v Speaker 1>She was drunk at the time, and she used to

616
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<v Speaker 1>live with myghborhood'd see he around. She read the news.

617
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I had like a Newswoman thing, okay, and she only

618
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about what in the world. She doesn't

619
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.599
<v Speaker 1>look anything like me? What like? She was so not

620
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>bothered by the choice. But she's like, I don't know

621
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you at all.

622
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think she was.

623
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>You say, like Jennifer Aniston, like every other guy, And

624
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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, I'm picking the at the time, like

625
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:22.279
<v Speaker 1>fifty two year old news chick.

626
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay. I can tell you that I do think as

627
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<v Speaker 2>a woman, you want your partner to pick someone who

628
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.680
<v Speaker 2>is kind of like you in your weird right kind

629
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<v Speaker 2>of rationale.

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00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:35.079
<v Speaker 3>That making it better.

631
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I also think you never choose someone who is the

632
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>least bit tangible. I mean, were you really going to

633
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>go get with Elizabeth Fargus? I mean maybe, yes, Okay.

634
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I absolutely could get Elizabeth Fargus. No, I don't, sorry,

635
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>but like, did you know her? I had access to.

636
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 3>Her because she was in your neighborhood.

637
00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I knew people who worked at the news.

638
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I think, like Fargus, if the hall pass

639
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 2>is like someone you work with or like a friend's

640
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 2>best friend, I think that's dangerous territory.

641
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.759
<v Speaker 1>But you don't go there a ten year like if

642
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:09.799
<v Speaker 1>they started dating in college when they were all together,

643
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and then that was his regret. These two didn't start dating.

644
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.319
<v Speaker 1>They met again at a ten year reunion, and then

645
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I always liked your roommate back, and now

646
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying it out loud, it seems a little weird.

647
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 1>So you just I know, how close is she to

648
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the roommate? Are they still friends? Is it ten years ago?

649
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can play that game if you're

650
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:31.599
<v Speaker 1>unless you're prepared to deal with the consequences of the answers.

651
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:32.880
<v Speaker 3>And then when you're verbalizing it.

652
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe that's like what you really want, But

653
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I say, always go celebrity hall.

654
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's not realistic. But a lot of the

655
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>girls that I have dated, I think they could get

656
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the rock. Yeah, sorry, whoever example is, you know, maybe

657
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>not like Brad Pitt, but there's certain people. I'm like,

658
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, she's hot. He probably would go for her.

659
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess I have to stay out of Nashville, you know,

660
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Like well.

661
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Now with social media, I mean you you can get out.

662
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Just anybody there. You got famous people marrying regular people.

663
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.279
<v Speaker 3>So it's a dangerous. I kind of love that for

664
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:08.400
<v Speaker 3>regular it's a day.

665
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever played this game?

666
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I don't know if I'm permitted to say all

667
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 3>that can say.

668
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>No, it's it's not like I mean, it's not like

669
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:20.559
<v Speaker 2>I ever said like, yeah, that's okay. I think at

670
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:23.759
<v Speaker 2>one point he said like Angelina Jolie or something like that, you.

671
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.799
<v Speaker 3>Know, which you think like, yeah, nice, see I.

672
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Would think that's boring. Yeah, good luck with that. Yeah

673
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>she would. You don't want right, just have fun? Right?

674
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>And what did you say or you can't say?

675
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:39.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, I mean do I say.

676
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:41.839
<v Speaker 1>You say I say on the air gave his away?

677
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, uh, I think John Mayer.

678
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:47.079
<v Speaker 2>You knew this about me?

679
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I think no, I didn't. But that makes you know

680
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 1>he's he gets the chicks, he's got the guitar.

681
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>He's got to get.

682
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 1>See. That's the thing. I think if you met John Mayor,

683
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:01.319
<v Speaker 1>you could get John Mayer. That's the thing. No offense

684
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to your husband. I don't think you can get Angelina Joelee.

685
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>That is see that is where that's a conversation. So

686
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.839
<v Speaker 1>now he's looking, he's suddenly your body's in Wonderland comes

687
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 1>on the radio. He's a look on your face. That's

688
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>that's why it's a stagerous game.

689
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:18.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you just don't.

690
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 2>I think you just shouldn't play it.

691
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think you shouldn't play it either. If

692
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 1>you're going to play it, don't have somebody that immediate

693
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that she knows that you could that you could track down. Yeah,

694
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>clearly all he went to college together, go ducks, you know,

695
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve, like it's not that far removed. Another

696
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>thing is I would judge on how quickly they answered

697
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the question. I think every instance, if he instantly said,

698
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.519
<v Speaker 1>oh my hope, it would be your old roommate from

699
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 1>ten years ago. If you answer that real quick. Yeah,

700
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:53.759
<v Speaker 1>that shows regret. That shows I've been thinking about her. No, no, no,

701
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you need to take some time and really think about it. Yeah.

702
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:58.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, have you ever had someone ask you I

703
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:03.920
<v Speaker 2>remember someone that asking me which one of my friends

704
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:06.880
<v Speaker 2>would you hook up with if you had to?

705
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.599
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, oh god, none of us the only

706
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 3>right answer.

707
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:12.279
<v Speaker 1>No, but I agree. I used to have a girlfriend

708
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>who would ask me to drive her friend home drunk

709
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>all the time. She goes, you need to take care

710
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of Bridget, And it was really just a test because

711
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Bridget was her hottest friend. And it's always this like

712
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>weird test, Like I'm like, what are you trying to do?

713
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Want me to hook up with Bridget? Like why do

714
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you keep doing this? Bridget is fine? I hate taking

715
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.599
<v Speaker 1>Bridget home. I know what you're doing here. She's like, no,

716
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>we're just good friends of hers and you need to

717
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>take care of her. How can we never come with me?

718
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is weird.

719
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 2>First of all, Bridget is definitely hooking up just by

720
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 2>her name. I can do a bridge is down.

721
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But you know these people do play You know, you

722
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>try not to play games. You're not trying not to

723
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>have the answer too quick. You're trying not to, but

724
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 1>it is little dangerous. I had a girl come up

725
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 1>to me. And I did a great love debate show

726
00:32:53.519 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>in Charlotte and two girls come up to me. One

727
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>of them was a fan of mine. The other one says,

728
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.039
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea who you are, but I really

729
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>have a thing for Mark Ruffalo. And if I'm drunk enough,

730
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I can pretend that you are him.

731
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 2>I see that in you. We're not ideot. That was her.

732
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>That was her. You guys know what I look like?

733
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>That was her line. Like, I can pretend if I

734
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.599
<v Speaker 1>get wasted and I'm like, what are we doing here? Girls?

735
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm like, know to the fan and know

736
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to the weird Mark Ruffalo fetish, because that would just

737
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 1>make me feel like we never And I'm like stunt,

738
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>double drunk Mark Ruffalo sex guy, and I'm like, may

739
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:37.359
<v Speaker 1>we're good here, Chris have a drake?

740
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I love that.

741
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I love that for you.

742
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:42.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't want it like that. I want

743
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>to like like me, not you, like, oh, you look

744
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:46.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of like somebody that I like better.

745
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:49.200
<v Speaker 3>You know what, they like a type and you kind

746
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:51.519
<v Speaker 3>of fit that type. I mean, I feel like it's

747
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 3>not that bad.

748
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I suppose that's worse. But Mark Ruffalo never gets

749
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the girl in any movie. Yeah he doesn't. He's like

750
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 1>the friend of the lesbian couple. And or he's a cop. Yeah,

751
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>he's not a cop.

752
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:02.519
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of a loof.

753
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of clumpy and mighty. It's not a compliment.

754
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I like him though, people like him, but you know, no,

755
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>we want to state him anyway. This was fun, This

756
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.599
<v Speaker 1>is fairly painless. Some will agree with some we don't,

757
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and some of you guys just have to move on.

758
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Unfortunately, you know, if it's meant to be, it

759
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.760
<v Speaker 2>will be. I I definitely know that sounds cheesy, and

760
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, but I do think if it's meant to be,

761
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.119
<v Speaker 2>it will be. But yeah, some of you, you you

762
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of made a choice. You made your bed. You've

763
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:32.920
<v Speaker 2>got to lie in.

764
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 1>It, right, all right, It's been a long time since

765
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>you have been single. We play something called worst date

766
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.280
<v Speaker 1>or first date, so you have to have to think

767
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>back to your swing in single days and either give

768
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>us the worst date you've ever had or the best

769
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:48.360
<v Speaker 1>first date you've ever had, and that could be with

770
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 1>your husband. I don't care your choice.

771
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this first date, my husband, we went to.

772
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Director jukebox and you picked only you and said to him.

773
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I love a jew box.

774
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm always like at the jew box. But no, I

775
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.599
<v Speaker 2>don't think there was like a particular song I remember.

776
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>But the restaurant is actually local because I'm born and

777
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>raised here. He's born and raised here. And we connected

778
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 2>later on. I was twenty four and he was twenty nine.

779
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>But we went to this restaurant that's still the location

780
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>is still in town. It's changed hands a bunch of times.

781
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:25.199
<v Speaker 2>But we closed, literally closed the restaurant down. And it

782
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 2>was kind of a blind date because even though we

783
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:31.920
<v Speaker 2>had known each other our whole lives because our families

784
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 2>were friends, we had not seen each other in a

785
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 2>long time since I was like sixteen and he was

786
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty one.

787
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>So at this.

788
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Time flash forward, it's eight years later. We go on

789
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:44.719
<v Speaker 2>the date and we didn't really know. I didn't know

790
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 2>what he was going to look like. He didn't know

791
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>what I was going to look like. But we kind of,

792
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, connected over the phone and got re acquainted

793
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:57.199
<v Speaker 2>and went to dinner and literally were there probably four hours.

794
00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>We closed the restaurant down they were putting. I remember

795
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:04.119
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden looking up from likeable chairs on

796
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.719
<v Speaker 2>the tables, and that was like, good for you.

797
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:07.400
<v Speaker 3>That was it.

798
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I called my friend from the bathroom and

799
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I said, he will be my husband.

800
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 3>I already knew he was going to be my husband.

801
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Shared to that I had this like weird intuition about it,

802
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:19.760
<v Speaker 2>which is very much me.

803
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>When did you tell him that part of it? Oh?

804
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 3>No, not for a while.

805
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, I'm going to try it.

806
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear that when you get out of

807
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.559
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom. I want to hear it right away. Cool,

808
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:30.199
<v Speaker 1>but he ken.

809
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.280
<v Speaker 2>But he did say later on, you were in the

810
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 2>bathroom kind of a lot, like a long time, and

811
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 2>I would call, you know, would somebody get on the

812
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:39.239
<v Speaker 2>phone with me, like it's nervous.

813
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I was amazing, this is going so.

814
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's amazing, this is my husband.

815
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>And they were like, whoa, okay, really you know, calm down,

816
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:46.199
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, best first date.

817
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:49.199
<v Speaker 1>That's a good date. Do you ride by that place ever? Oh?

818
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:50.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I go we go there.

819
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>You know where's it?

820
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Well? It was the it was Red Fire Grill in

821
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Palmeach Gardens. It's now stage.

822
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>That was the location of the first Were you outside no?

823
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Inside?

824
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 3>Inside?

825
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've lived here your whole life.

826
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Moved away once.

827
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 1>But have you ever had a driver's license that is

828
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>in Florida? No?

829
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Wow, No, I'm a Florida girl, through and through Palm

830
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Beach County.

831
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people leave New York and they never

832
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:18.679
<v Speaker 1>go back. A lot of people leave Florida and a

833
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:19.599
<v Speaker 1>lot of them come back.

834
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, because you realize, like I mean, summertimes, they're.

835
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Hot, but weather it's a seductive muse.

836
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Yes, right now it feels like vacation.

837
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 1>I know it does.

838
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:29.960
<v Speaker 3>That's so nice.

839
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:34.159
<v Speaker 1>It's the season. Tell everybody about your podcast and how

840
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 1>they can find your podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, of course the cinemon effect. I what we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about is things that make life healthier, sweeter, more fulfilling.

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<v Speaker 2>So we enhance, you know, I think with the topics

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<v Speaker 2>that we talk about, we enhance the core areas of

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<v Speaker 2>life with intention. So it's it's a whole.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's health and wellness, it's fitness, it's lifestyle, it's travel,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, lots of things.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It's a good show. I was on it

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<v Speaker 1>and you asked questions that are that are smart and

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<v Speaker 1>sightful and they make you think and I'm proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good show on the socials. Can anybody track

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<v Speaker 1>you down?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>So I have at kimberly Hand underscore on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that pass score on the back end.

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<v Speaker 2>On the back end because there's apparently another kimberly Hand

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is she? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I do have The Cinnamon Effect podcast Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>as well and Kimberlyhand dot com the Cinnamon Effect dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, blowing it up. Track her now you

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<v Speaker 1>were lovely. I appreciate you doing this as far as

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<v Speaker 1>us like, share, follow, Please review this podcast and The

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<v Speaker 1>Cinnamon Effect. Your reviews, still after almost five hundred shows,

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<v Speaker 1>mean a lot in the podcasting ecosystem. Shoot me an email,

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<v Speaker 1>great love debate at gmail dot com if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a question comment thought for me Kimberly or you disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the things we said, you're wrong, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can disagree, or if you really or if you

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<v Speaker 1>really like only you by Yaz sorry because because it's

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<v Speaker 1>big in Britain, if you go over to London now

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<v Speaker 1>they still play that song part of the whole English

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<v Speaker 1>revival because, as always at the Great Love Debate, we

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<v Speaker 1>never stopped making love. See you next time, the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Love Debate. It's the Great love Debate, the Great love Debate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great love to be
