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Speaker 1: So that is pended technology that we have that none

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much disqualified from all of the major programs, utility programs

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and the like because it's a core functionality of charging

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but we have the pen on it.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Terry Lutz. Well.

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Speaker 4: Hearing a lot about alternative energy. Even with the new administration,

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there's going to be changes, but the fact is EV's

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all of that are here to stay. And someone who's

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at the forefront of this trend, Michael Farcas, is with

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Speaker 3: Michael is great to have you on.

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Speaker 4: So looking at your website, I see you're particularly behind

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wireless ev charging. Could tell us a little bit about

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that and your approach to it.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, Yes, thank you for having me. Yes, one of

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our focuses is wireless EV charging. As you may know

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so I've got over fifteen years in the EV charging

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business and without a question, in the future of the

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electi vehicle charging is wireless. Every ev manufacturer is now

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not only testing it, it's gone through their labs already,

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but now have that in their production plans. It's the

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most amazing way to fuel your vehicle. And even the

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Tesla cyber Taxi that was just be viewed not too

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long ago, the sole way of charging that vehicle is

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wireless charging. You don't want to add, you know, human

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intervention into an economous vehicle, are are right? Our approaches

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is very simple. We have four patents and an evy

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charging space and we're using that technology to really leverage

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ours our position and help us deploy technology where we're

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going to own and operate these facilities in the field

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as well as using our smart micro good technology to

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produce the energy that that that's supplying the field to

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the wireless roads.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so obviously there's other companies working on the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Tesla is working on it. How do you.

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Speaker 4: Survive in the world where you have the giant Tesla.

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Speaker 1: Well, Tesla license technology for the wireless functionality in their vehicles,

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as well. Yes, we are not the only company in

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the wireless charging space. There's another one out of Israel

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which is really one of the pioneers called Electrion, and

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they trade on the right tell it is stock exchange

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and they treat for over eight hundred million dollars in

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total value. When you look at our technology versus there's

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very complementary in certain ways. But of the one of

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the functionality that we have one depends that we have

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is on bidirectional wireless charging. It's called vehicle to grid.

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able to put electric band from the grid into the

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vehicle and also from the vehicle into the grid. Is

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that is correct? So that is that is panded technology

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wired charging today, you're pretty much disqualified from all of

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the major programs, utility programs and the like, because it's

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a core functionality of charging and having what's called smart

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cities and having those capabilities. We don't have the technology

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for wired bi directional charging, but we have the pent

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network right side, bridge side, or even the vehicle side,

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you're gonna be you're gonna be violating our pens. Fully,

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we plan on collaborating with others and having others being

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able to license our technology.

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Speaker 4: Really an exciting time As an EV owner myself, I've

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had three of them in the past few years. Love

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them and either love them or hate them, but if

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you've driven them, you love them. So you know the

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whole thing of the autonomous vehicle, it's coming here. It's

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of the wireless charger because you know right now, like

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day you wait online, so I've learned to avoid that one.

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Speaker 1: You will not have to go somewhere to fuel your

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vehicle as you're driving. You're going to be able to

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Speaker 3: You'll be able to pull.

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Speaker 1: Into a lane that's marked as a wireless charging lane,

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Speaker 1: In addition, you'll be parking spots that'll be lit up.

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normally would, and again no interaction whatsoever. You're car well,

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then have the transaction authenticated. The network will dispense the

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electricity and you'll be sent to SMS or text of

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how many killout hours your car was filled up with

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and you never ever have to interact with I'm in

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the process ever again with your vehicle. That's the future,

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it's all autonomous. You just plug it in. But you

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generation of certain evs. They're going to start counting with

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these wireless charging capabilities. The technologies is, the communication protocols

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Speaker 3: But definitely the future.

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Speaker 4: So talk to us about microgrids, Michael Significance.

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Speaker 3: First, stuff, y'all in it. What is a micro grid

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and we have certain technology that allows us to do

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that more efficiently than almost any other company that's out

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a component of it had to do with wireless ev

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charging and the other had to do with utility operating

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platform technologies and smart microgrid technologies. And these technologies were

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developed under an eight hundred plus million dollar Department of

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FPL and FIU, and we receive the commercial rights to

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our acquisition of the company that FIU licensed that technology too.

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more of being more efficient in doing so, being able

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to match supply and demand using artificial intelligence and machine learning,

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and had to literally permeate every milk and cranny of

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the utility rate and making that utility ridd much more

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efficient than it ever was or ever has been anywhere

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in the world. That's the technology what we have, and

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we have a model of being able to replicate it

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for other utilities. In addition, we're able to shrink down

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that technology because it's modular in scale and be able

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to deploy those that technology locally. We're talking about anywhere

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scale and summons. And because of the cash flow and

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the definitive cash flow of those assets, you're really able

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to finance them using you know, you know, at the

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subsidiary level more at SPD level, were having to constantly

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issue shares in the right, can company issued debt these

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assets once they're turned on, the data turned on, ducing revenues,

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defining revenues, and those revenues are typically purchase prior to

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money in our pipeline already of being able to deploy

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smart microgrid technologies throughout the country, some of it with

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Native American tribes. And there's a lot of amazing government programs,

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credits and really help us, you know, cover the cost

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to then cover you know, deck coverage and maintenance and

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Speaker 3: For us over the long term. Ouch.

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Speaker 4: So question for you, like the new administration has demonstrated

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hostility towards tax credits for evs et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Question is how does that affect you.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't.

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Speaker 3: We're not an EV charging company.

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Speaker 1: Most of our businesses and I'm fueling vehicles, you know,

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whether it's providing them with the gasoline that they need.

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Speaker 3: Worldwide, so it's so it's not.

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Speaker 1: Sold down and the subsidies, you know, they're not going

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Speaker 1: But with setting the government, you know, even you know

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with Trump is clear on the fact that this country

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needs a lot more energy generation than it currently has.

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it is, everyone in the country to operate more efficiently

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unless use less fuel to produce the same amount of

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electricity that they need to satisfy demand. You're talking about

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billions and billions and tens of billions of dollars in

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savings that if our technology is implemented immediately, it can

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be easily accomplished. That's something that's necessary for every utility

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and no matter how they produce electricity, even in countries

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like Saudi Arabia, if you're burning petroleum to generate your

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electricity using our technology, you will need to burn a

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lot less petrole agum to satisfy that exact same demand.

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Speaker 1: Massed as to fuel sources. So again, our technology is

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and also on the smart microgrid and and us you

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and selling it whether it's to the utility in local

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we're going to get it from tax incentives and from

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Speaker 3: Of that, huh.

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Speaker 1: Also from the depreciation aspect, we don't see that DISAPPEARI yes,

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So we're we're in a good spot. That's by this way,

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if you buy to our to our way of financing

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our deployments, we're able to monetize depreciation and the tax credit,

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and that covers almost half of the project costs. And

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then we're able to use conventional decks to finance.

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Speaker 3: The other half.

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Speaker 1: So we don't have to you know, share self stock

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at the parent level or issue dead at the parent

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level to fund any and all of these projects.

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Speaker 3: Really fascinating opportunity. I like it.

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Speaker 4: The ticker symbol n x x T on the Nasdaq

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and the website which you should go to is n

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e x T n RG dot com. And if you've

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got a question for Michael or myself, shoot me an email.

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Klatcarrielots dot com. You'll find a link to next nrg's

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site in the show notes to this interview on Financial

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seventy thousand subscribers is pretty darn good. Michael, appreciate your

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stopping by explaining the company to us. I love the

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fact it's a Florida company and lots of sunshine here,

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so lots of free energy. All we got to do

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is get to it right, correct, All right, take care, Thank.

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Speaker 3: You, be well.

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