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Speaker 1: Clear skies on Valentine's Day with a high of thirty
Speaker 1: seven thirty two degrees. Right now, Chuck Ingram, what's going
Speaker 1: on out there? It didn't fire? Ghost to the machine,
Speaker 1: Judge Edita Politano. Sorry, he may very well have recorded
Speaker 1: the traffic and kind words or compliments or goofy sentiments
Speaker 1: relating to you, but we didn't get the recording audio,
Speaker 1: So sorry about that. It's usually a comical start to
Speaker 1: our conversation, Judge and Polatona.
Speaker 2: Is this another colossal oohs that he's pulled off on us?
Speaker 1: It could be. Hey, listen, man, I started out the
Speaker 1: morning show yesterday five Am. Joe's got great guests lined
Speaker 1: up all throughout the morning. Like today with you. The
Speaker 1: phones aren't working. People are calling in to have comments.
Speaker 1: None of the audio is coming through we can't communicate
Speaker 1: with anybody, and I'm like, oh Lord Almighty, that means
Speaker 1: that I'm going to have to fill up four solid
Speaker 1: hours by myself, which to me is an anxiety the
Speaker 1: inducing experience. So finally got the phones fixed, but we
Speaker 1: had to deal with Chicago to do that or something.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, Eddie, what a.
Speaker 2: Great conversation you just had with Congressman Massy. Everybody should
Speaker 2: hear that. Everybody in the Congress should hear that the
Speaker 2: President of the United States, the federal Judiciary, everybody should
Speaker 2: hear that he is the only person I am aware
Speaker 2: of that has a full, unbridled, intellectually honest, constitutionally faithful
Speaker 2: grasp on the excesses of today.
Speaker 3: Simply marvelous and courageous and.
Speaker 1: Well craigous in the sense that he's calling out his
Speaker 1: own fellow Republicans. I mean, he's more libertarian, but they're
Speaker 1: the problem.
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't have to worry about re election
Speaker 2: because his constituents appreciate him, but calling out his fellow
Speaker 2: Republicans is what is deeply, deeply and profoundly needed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and after all this work, to say
Speaker 1: what you want about Elon musk. But at least he's
Speaker 1: bringing it to our attention the just ridiculous expenditures of
Speaker 1: money which are indefensible that they would refund USA to
Speaker 1: the forty billion dollars are currently getting. I mean that
Speaker 1: that is even within the realm of possibility is mind
Speaker 1: blowing to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know one of the lessons I learned when
Speaker 2: I was on the bench, like, why are we doing this? Well, judge,
Speaker 2: it's been done this way in this courthouse since before
Speaker 2: you were born. Well, that's no reason keep doing it.
Speaker 2: It's not authorized by the statute.
Speaker 3: I don't remember what it was, but that is a
Speaker 3: habit in government.
Speaker 2: The engines of government are run by people that are unseen,
Speaker 2: and they're the ones that do things just because it's
Speaker 2: always been done that way. Congress ban Messy is almost
Speaker 2: shoveling against the tide when he attempts.
Speaker 3: To resist that.
Speaker 1: Sissiphis I always say to that, right, anyway, you roll that.
Speaker 3: Rock to the top of the hill. As soon as
Speaker 3: you get up there, it rolls.
Speaker 1: Back down exactly. Well, the exercise is, you know what
Speaker 1: he's doing. It's it's the the revealing to the world.
Speaker 1: And yet faced with even fellow Republicans who can't grasp
Speaker 1: a fiscal responsibility, who don't care that we are spending
Speaker 1: trillions of dollars beyond what is even taken into our debt.
Speaker 1: Service bill is bigger than that ridiculous eight hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty billion dollar defense bill, which we know is filled
Speaker 1: with all kinds of fraud, waste, and abuse. It's just
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's almost as if they want the
Speaker 1: ship to crash or they want the plane.
Speaker 2: I have often argued, and you've heard me say this,
Speaker 2: that we don't have two parties.
Speaker 3: We have one party. It's the Big Government Party.
Speaker 2: It has a Democratic wing which prefers to spend money
Speaker 2: one way, and a Republican wing, which prefers to spend.
Speaker 3: Money another way. But they each prefer.
Speaker 2: To spend money that we don't have. They both do
Speaker 2: things to keep themselves in power, and there's very little
Speaker 2: difference between them. They pretend there's a difference between them,
Speaker 2: but they have collectively wrapped up nearly thirty six trillion
Speaker 2: in debt and there doesn't seem to be any stopping them.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to have to collapse before anything
Speaker 1: can be done about it. It's like broken.
Speaker 2: Well, it may very well collapse like the old Soviet
Speaker 2: Union collapsed. I have attempted to put into the President's
Speaker 2: ear through someone that I occasionally communicate with.
Speaker 3: Who has this year all the time. Maybe it's time
Speaker 3: for a convention the States.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's time for a constitution that seriously limits the
Speaker 2: federal government and allows you, as Ronald Reagan used to say,
Speaker 2: to vote with your feet by moving to a state
Speaker 2: where the laws are to your liking. Today everything is
Speaker 2: regulated by the Feds. The states are bribed.
Speaker 3: By the Feds. Do what we want and what we
Speaker 3: pave the highways for you.
Speaker 1: Well, I talked to the president of the Convention of
Speaker 1: States group that is organizing it and pushing for it,
Speaker 1: and more and more states are taking an interest in it.
Speaker 1: I think sixteen or seventeen states have already approved it
Speaker 1: passed legislation calling for a Convention of States. So that
Speaker 1: idea may happen. It may happen, your honor, I hope
Speaker 1: it happens in my lifetime. It will be things to
Speaker 1: behold because part of the motivation is forcing the government
Speaker 1: to live within its means and have a balanced budget.
Speaker 2: So, as I said at the end, of my column
Speaker 2: coming out tonight. When the government destroys liberty and property,
Speaker 2: according to Thomas jeff it is the right of the
Speaker 2: people to alter or amashit.
Speaker 1: Yes, you hate to have to see it come to that,
Speaker 1: but you're right.
Speaker 3: Let's you do you you do. Founding fathers did not
Speaker 3: mince words in the things that they said, And of
Speaker 3: course Jefferson was talking about violence. I'm not talking about violence.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about doing this, you know, lawfully and peacefully.
Speaker 1: Well, they did provide us some mechanism to do that
Speaker 1: lawfully and peacefully. That's the Convention of States. It's better
Speaker 1: that than a revolution.
Speaker 3: Right, right, right, exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, you and I are not fans of the imperial presidency.
Speaker 1: As I pointed out with Congressman Mascy, we've been down
Speaker 1: this road before. If Congress was functioning and able to
Speaker 1: do something on behalf of the American people and not
Speaker 1: on their own best interest, then something might get done
Speaker 1: along the lines you heard congressom Mancy mentioned. Listen, for
Speaker 1: every Doge recommendation, we should incorporate it into a reconciliation
Speaker 1: bill that we could get past. But no, his colleagues
Speaker 1: aren't interested in that. So beyond that your column the
Speaker 1: myth of emergency powers. It's a brilliant column, as as
Speaker 1: always point out. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. But it
Speaker 1: does discuss the Ninth Amendment, and I just want to
Speaker 1: give you, let you give my listeners a little insight
Speaker 1: to your point on this so they can get a
Speaker 1: copy of it when it comes out tonight.
Speaker 2: Well, presidents have often claimed, I mean, this goes back
Speaker 2: to Abraham Lincoln and now Donald Trump. But Trump is
Speaker 2: not the only one. FDR did this many many times,
Speaker 2: that by declaring a national emergency, they somehow acquire powers
Speaker 2: to do things from some source other than the Constitution,
Speaker 2: which they ordinarily wouldn't be able to do. Both Lincoln
Speaker 2: and FDR claimed they could arrest people without charges and
Speaker 2: without bringing them before a judge, in Lincoln's case on
Speaker 2: the basis of their criticism of him, and FDR's case
Speaker 2: on the basis of their nationality.
Speaker 3: What provoked this was.
Speaker 2: President Trump saying he might declare an emergency at the
Speaker 2: at the Texas Mexico border, and that would give him
Speaker 2: more powers to arrest and use the military.
Speaker 3: Well, no, it wouldn't. This is a myth.
Speaker 2: That presidents have I'm not just picking on Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: A lot of people listening to us, I know, agree
Speaker 2: with what he wants to do on the border. A
Speaker 2: lot of people listening to us now agree with what
Speaker 2: he's dispatched elon must to do.
Speaker 3: But these things must be done lawfully.
Speaker 2: They can't just be done by the executive assuming powers
Speaker 2: that the executive doesn't have, or powers.
Speaker 3: That belong to the Congress.
Speaker 2: If Donald Trump can rewrite the laws by saying, whoo,
Speaker 2: there is no Department of Education, well then there's no stopping.
Speaker 3: Him or a future president from doing the same.
Speaker 2: I happen to think the Department of Education is unconstitutional, but.
Speaker 3: It's the law.
Speaker 2: It needs to be undone by Congress, not by the president.
Speaker 2: In terms of this emergency nonsense, whenever the courts have
Speaker 2: looked at it, they've said, there is no such thing
Speaker 2: as emergency power. The only power the president has is
Speaker 2: what's given to him.
Speaker 3: Or her in the Constitution.
Speaker 2: We had a terrible example of this in New Jersey
Speaker 2: during COVID, and then when COVID was over, turned out
Speaker 2: that the governor was still the governor of New Jersey,
Speaker 2: but in his last year and he's term limited thanks.
Speaker 3: To be to God.
Speaker 2: Phil Murphy decided he enjoyed emergency powers so much he
Speaker 2: didn't want to give him up, even though COVID was
Speaker 2: over and life had returned to normally recently did give
Speaker 2: them up. By the way, this is the same Phil
Speaker 2: Murphy who said, if my housekeeper were an illegal alien,
Speaker 2: I would hide her in the governor's mansion and defy
Speaker 2: ice to find her. What a crazy thing for a
Speaker 2: person responsible for the laws to say. Whereupon Tom Homan said,
Speaker 2: what's your address, Governor, We're coming over. Well, you can't
Speaker 2: make this stuff up. So all these things were going
Speaker 2: through my head. I'm sorry I'm talking so much, Brian
Speaker 2: as I decided to coalesceent around the myth of emergency powers,
Speaker 2: the belief that the public has that the Congress accepts
Speaker 2: that the presidents have articulated that by declaring an emergency,
Speaker 2: they somehow, from somewhere, from some source not the Constitution,
Speaker 2: acquire more power and it's somehow lawful.
Speaker 1: Blonney Well, same along the lines. Comparable anyway to waging
Speaker 1: war when there's been no declaration of war nothing.
Speaker 3: That's another thing.
Speaker 2: The Congress looks the other way when presidents start wars
Speaker 2: when Barack Obama used the CIA so that he didn't
Speaker 2: have to report this under the War Powers Better Resolution
Speaker 2: to bomb Libya. Congressman knowingly look the other way. I
Speaker 2: happened to be interviewing than Harlem Congressman, longtime Harlem Congressman
Speaker 2: Charlie Wrangele on Fox News.
Speaker 3: I said, Congressman Wrangell, how can you allow this to happen?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Judge, if it fails, we don't want to
Speaker 2: have anything to do with it.
Speaker 3: And if it succeeds, we'll say we gave him the
Speaker 3: power to do it. That is nonsense.
Speaker 2: That is a failure to uphold his oath, which is
Speaker 2: to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.
Speaker 1: Wow. Well, you know, between you and Congressman Massy, it's
Speaker 1: rather a bit of a downer couple of conversations. It
Speaker 1: is what's going on.
Speaker 3: Say, Constitution of the States. My dream would be to
Speaker 3: be the chair of it.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, to be personally involved in rewriting the Constitution.
Speaker 2: Congressman Massy knows that this is my dream. But we'll
Speaker 2: see what happens. I happen to think that the President
Speaker 2: of the United States, whatever you think of him, would favor.
Speaker 1: This yeah, I agree with you. I think he's not
Speaker 1: picking or choosing any specific action and not analyzing it
Speaker 1: from a constitutional perspective as you and you and I
Speaker 1: might do. I think what he is offering and trying
Speaker 1: to accomplish through his executive actions is in the best
Speaker 1: interests of America, like getting rid of fraud, waste, and
Speaker 1: abuse and get ready eradicating the departments that shouldn't exist anyway.
Speaker 1: There's already forty nine lawsuits that have been filed against
Speaker 1: his executive actions, so ultimately, the third branch of government,
Speaker 1: the legal system, will definitely be resolving these issues, and
Speaker 1: it may maybe take a while, but maybe we can
Speaker 1: restore some constitutional order in all of this. Judge Andrew Neapolitano,
Speaker 1: we always end on judging freedom, your podcasts and your conversations.
Speaker 1: Who are going to be hearing today, Phil Giraldi.
Speaker 2: And Pepe Escobar, two of my superstars, and along with
Speaker 2: Aaron Monte, who's a young investigative journalist, one of the
Speaker 2: best in the business, who keeps coming up with more waste, fraud,
Speaker 2: and abuse that the foreign policy establishment does not want
Speaker 2: us to know about.
Speaker 1: Wonderful. We'll look forward to those conversations and I'll look
Speaker 1: forward to next Wednesday, another great conversation with you, sir.
Speaker 3: Thank you. A great day.
Speaker 2: Starting out by listening to you and Congressman Messi has
Speaker 2: been a treat for me, and of course being with
Speaker 2: you is always a treat.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian.
Speaker 1: I'm blessed to have the opportunity to speak with you.
Speaker 1: Man I really truly am God bless you, sir. We'll
Speaker 1: talk next Wednesday, coming up at eight forty three here
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