Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Nicole, if we if you and I
Speaker 2: knew that the Celtics would go for a measly six
Speaker 2: point three billion, we could have probably got in on
Speaker 2: this action too pocket change right, Well, you know, I
Speaker 2: mean it's a little bit, but you and I we
Speaker 2: could have covered it totally.
Speaker 3: Well, then again, people seem to think that we're like
Speaker 3: millionaires in radio.
Speaker 2: That is not the kid. Anything that I could do
Speaker 2: to reinforce that.
Speaker 3: Maybe if it was you know, six and a half dollars.
Speaker 2: Maybe, oh yeah, absolutely, no question no. But it's exciting.
Speaker 4: This is big news.
Speaker 2: It is it is big news. The folks who all
Speaker 2: the Celtics turned quite a profit, they call that return
Speaker 2: ROI return on investment. I think they bought it for
Speaker 2: three hundred mil. Yes, I saw that. Good for them
Speaker 2: sometimes good for them? Yeah hopefully, Well yeah, that can
Speaker 2: go to pay off the national debt. Says all about that.
Speaker 2: Great to chat. We owe each other a phone call. Yes,
Speaker 2: talk to you, thanks to Gold, talk to you. Good night.
Speaker 2: Welcome on in everyone. My name is Dan Ray, and
Speaker 2: this is Night's Out. We've got a great show. Schedule
Speaker 2: for you tonight. Once again, we have some subjects that
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Speaker 2: He's going to make sure everything goes smoothly. There will
Speaker 2: be no phone calls until after nine o'clock because we
Speaker 2: have four guests, as we do every eight o'clock, and
Speaker 2: they are interesting topics. Tonight, my first guest is doctor
Speaker 2: Fara Mustafa. She's a dermatologist and director of laser and
Speaker 2: cosmetics at Tuft's Medical Center, kind of close to home. Welcome,
Speaker 2: doctor Mustapha. How are you tonight?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 6: Dan, how are you? I'm doing well? Thanks, I'm doing great.
Speaker 2: We are going to talk about something that I don't
Speaker 2: know a lot about, and so bear with me if
Speaker 2: I ask any dumb questions. But that's what I get
Speaker 2: paid to do. The Federal and Drug Administration Apparently they've
Speaker 2: decided to recall some acne treatment products over benzene levels.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I know what acne treatment products are,
Speaker 2: but I don't know what the problem is with benzene levels.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure you can explain it to my audience.
Speaker 2: Is this a big deal?
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm happy to explain it. Well, it's good for consumers.
Speaker 4: To know about, for sure, of course.
Speaker 6: So benzel peroxidism and over the counter acne treatment, it's
Speaker 6: in a lot of spot treatments for acne. And about
Speaker 6: a year ago, there was an independent lab that kind
Speaker 6: of put this out that many acne treatments that you
Speaker 6: can buy over the counter actually had the breakdown products
Speaker 6: of benzene in these in these containers, which is a
Speaker 6: known unfortunately a known carcinogen. So so the FDA recently
Speaker 6: made out this statement. Just last week, they did their
Speaker 6: own independent test and and although they actually found a
Speaker 6: lot less more contaminated than the third party lab found,
Speaker 6: there were a few products that still had levels of
Speaker 6: benzene and those companies have voluntarily issued recalls.
Speaker 2: This This must have freaked out a lot of teenagers,
Speaker 2: many of whom deal with ACNE. I assume the world,
Speaker 2: the world would have spread like wildfire amongst you know,
Speaker 2: middle schools and and high schools. Should parents who might
Speaker 2: be listening to they need to do anything now in
Speaker 2: response to this if their son or daughter was used.
Speaker 2: We're using any of these products.
Speaker 6: Well, not necessarily. I benzene is all around us, So
Speaker 6: that's one thing to kind of take into account. You know,
Speaker 6: it's in car exhaust, it's a byproduct of gasoline, and
Speaker 6: so it's not like we're not exposed to it into
Speaker 6: our in our everyday lives. It's all about you know,
Speaker 6: limiting exposure especially and knowing what you're exposed to. So
Speaker 6: I definitely did get things in my you know, my
Speaker 6: on TikTok and Instagram about people you know that we're
Speaker 6: kind of hyped up about this, and I totally understand that.
Speaker 6: I think for now, the most reasonable thing to do
Speaker 6: would be not to purchase the ones that the FDA's
Speaker 6: I would trust the FDA's tests more than the third
Speaker 6: party test. So there are a few products that kind
Speaker 6: of stood out, like the leoche pos e faclaire duo,
Speaker 6: another proactive which is a very popular one that has
Speaker 6: some name recognition. But if if if you have those
Speaker 6: products at home or they're close to their expiration date,
Speaker 6: especially because a lot of the products kind of break
Speaker 6: down over time or as they get closer to their
Speaker 6: expiration date, then it would make sense to avoid using
Speaker 6: avoid using them at that time.
Speaker 2: Sure. Sure, So benzene does that have a a benzine?
Speaker 2: Does it have? Is it is? It? Is it on
Speaker 2: the periodic table? It is? Is this some sort of
Speaker 2: a chemical that actually can have some positive use or
Speaker 2: does it just appear as byproduct? Uh? And it's a
Speaker 2: dangerous by product?
Speaker 6: It's it's that's exactly right, it's a dangerous byproduct. Okay,
Speaker 6: it's it's a chemical breakdown of benzyl peroxide in this case,
Speaker 6: which benzyl peroxide you know, is a safe and good
Speaker 6: to use active ingredient that has antibiotic properties and anti
Speaker 6: insulimmatory property, so really good for acne. But the breakdown benzene,
Speaker 6: that's just a it's a chemical that's kind of out
Speaker 6: there that has negative effects for humans.
Speaker 2: So this is not a chemical that is put into
Speaker 2: a product in a small amount.
Speaker 6: And no, no, it's like a breakdown. Usually it breaks
Speaker 6: down at like high temperatures or so in this lab,
Speaker 6: the initial lab that did the tests, that the products
Speaker 6: were supposed to really high temperatures, which is not what
Speaker 6: you're normally doing, right, You're not putting There were even
Speaker 6: jokes online like I'm not putting my acne cream baking
Speaker 6: it in the oven at four hundred and fifty degrees right,
Speaker 6: So how was just like a real risk. But having
Speaker 6: said that, having said that, of course when they did
Speaker 6: the when they did the repeat testing, they found that
Speaker 6: there were some products that actually had them at low levels,
Speaker 6: just kind of as they exist normally, right, like if
Speaker 6: it's in your shower or on your bathroom sink. There
Speaker 6: were still some products that had some low levels.
Speaker 2: This comes back to announcer, prevention is worth a pound
Speaker 2: of cure. Why do you want to us with something
Speaker 2: like this if you know about it. I'm sure the
Speaker 2: companies aren't thrilled to take products or recall products, but
Speaker 2: can they not produce the products in a way that
Speaker 2: this benzene is not produced, is not created as a
Speaker 2: by product. I assume I have to go back and
Speaker 2: maybe reconfigure the acne me medication, the acne treatment. But
Speaker 2: let's do it safely. I assume that's the lesson.
Speaker 6: Here, right, Yes, I absolutely agree, and it was, you know,
Speaker 6: and they actually issued the voluntary recalls of their own products,
Speaker 6: which was was a nice thing to do and the
Speaker 6: responsible thing to do. So that wasn't an fd you know,
Speaker 6: it was an FDA mandated recall or anything. But they
Speaker 6: the companies themselves had retailer based recall, so that means
Speaker 6: they took them out of the stores. It's not like,
Speaker 6: you know, they're messaging people and saying, Okay, if you
Speaker 6: have this, you got to take it back or get
Speaker 6: rid of it or anything like that. But they just
Speaker 6: remove them from the stores until they can figure out
Speaker 6: how to safely produce them without benzine by products.
Speaker 2: Sounds great. Well, look, thank you very much for explaining it.
Speaker 2: And is there a place that people could go to
Speaker 2: get more information on this? Is there a news article
Speaker 2: or some journal that if parents are concerned or just
Speaker 2: google benzene levels, products with benzene levels and they'll find
Speaker 2: some news stories.
Speaker 6: Yes, I will. Yeah, the FDA website itself actually has
Speaker 6: the list of the products that did come back for benzene.
Speaker 6: It's important to know also a lot of the products
Speaker 6: were tested and did not have it. So probably if
Speaker 6: I was a concern parent, I would just say, let
Speaker 6: you know, let me look on this website and see
Speaker 6: what not to buy, and then everything else is you know,
Speaker 6: more fair game.
Speaker 2: Okay, So just go to the FDA website and look
Speaker 2: for products with benzene levels or just google something like
Speaker 2: that and you'll find it. I assume it correct.
Speaker 6: Yes, the FDA benzene acting product. Yes, absolutely sounds great.
Speaker 2: Doctor Mustafa, thank you very much for your time and
Speaker 2: thank you for what you do. We will talk again,
Speaker 2: I suspect, thanks.
Speaker 6: So much, thank you, thanks a lot.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome when we get up. When we get back.
Speaker 2: A lot of people talk about spring cleaning. Today is
Speaker 2: the first day of spring. It's not Tomorrow's the first
Speaker 2: full day. It came in this morning at I guess
Speaker 2: five oh one here in the Boston area. But you
Speaker 2: don't have to just think about spring cleaning as dusting
Speaker 2: and cleaning up. Sweeping in your house. Does another sort
Speaker 2: of spring cleaning that we're going to talk with Nick
Speaker 2: Burns about. He's a Google tech expert. We'll talk to
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Speaker 2: and we're going to give you some tips on maybe
Speaker 2: how to clean up your desk. I'm looking at a
Speaker 2: messy desk right now, and maybe clean up the files
Speaker 2: on the floor. You'll get the drift. We'll be back
Speaker 2: with Nick Burns in just a couple of minutes. Now
Speaker 2: back to Dan Ray live from the Window World night
Speaker 2: Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. All right, welcome back
Speaker 2: as we head through the eight o'clock hour. Here, we're
Speaker 2: going to talk when you think about spring. Spring arrived
Speaker 2: today at five o't one in the morning, and I
Speaker 2: know that all of us when you think about spring,
Speaker 2: one of the things you think about is spring cleaning,
Speaker 2: which of course means dusting and straightening up and all
Speaker 2: of that. But there's another sort of spring cleaning that
Speaker 2: you might think about, and that is what's around you
Speaker 2: with us. As Nick Burns, he's a Google tech expert. Nick,
Speaker 2: I'm all ears. I'd love to know one of the
Speaker 2: top trends, tips and tools for tidying up all the
Speaker 2: areas of your life.
Speaker 4: Go right ahead, Yeah, you've got it. Thank you so
Speaker 4: much for having me. Well, as you said, spring is
Speaker 4: the season of renewal, and we're seeing that many people
Speaker 4: are searching for ways to clean and organize their home,
Speaker 4: focus on their health and fitness, refresh their wardrobes, and
Speaker 4: some are even looking for a new job.
Speaker 2: So if we talk about this is a wide variety
Speaker 2: of changes. I don't associate new jobs with the Spring.
Speaker 2: I do associate new jobs with January. Why do you
Speaker 2: throw jobs into this? I thought you were going to
Speaker 2: talk about not only maybe cleaning your home, but also
Speaker 2: tidying up a little bit. I mean, if you could
Speaker 2: see my task, if you could see my floor, the
Speaker 2: files with flours, and you can never get them exactly
Speaker 2: the way you want them. Do you have any tips
Speaker 2: for people like me on how to I have files,
Speaker 2: and I have boxes and files, and and I kind
Speaker 2: of know where everything is, but every once in a while,
Speaker 2: where the heck did I put that?
Speaker 4: Go right ahead, Nick, you and me, both you and
Speaker 4: me both well, I can tell you you're not alone.
Speaker 4: Search of interest in decuttering has hit a five year
Speaker 4: high in twenty twenty five, and minimalism in particular was
Speaker 4: the top trending search in the past week, and how
Speaker 4: to decutter where it was one hundred and forty percent
Speaker 4: in the past month alone. So people are really looking
Speaker 4: for help here in Massachusetts specifically, people are looking for
Speaker 4: ways to organize their kitchen more than any other room.
Speaker 4: And one of the really best things I always go
Speaker 4: to personally is YouTube. And actually, if you go to
Speaker 4: YouTube today and you click the little logo, they're doing
Speaker 4: a whole special highlighting all these creators who who do
Speaker 4: clean with Me videos and they've had over two hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty million views of those videos in the past year.
Speaker 4: So it's a lot of people are looking for great
Speaker 4: advice and it's YouTube is a great place to find it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that takes care of cleaning up our office
Speaker 2: in desk area, and you talked about people also decide to,
Speaker 2: I guess clean up their their resume and start to
Speaker 2: circulate their resume from maybe some new jobs, a fresh
Speaker 2: start again. I'm surprised that at the miriddle of the
Speaker 2: year people are thinking that. But that's okay. What other
Speaker 2: sort of ventures are people prompted to participate in, engage
Speaker 2: and engage in, or initiate because we have come to
Speaker 2: the end of winter. What else are people thinking of doing? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Absolutely so.
Speaker 5: Spring self care rose more than two hundred percent in
Speaker 5: the past month, along with self care ideas, which I'm
Speaker 5: always a fan of. And you know, sleep hygiene also
Speaker 5: hit an all time high in twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 5: people are searching for how to improve quality of sleep
Speaker 5: one in one hundred and forty percent more this month
Speaker 5: than they were last month. So, you know, when it
Speaker 5: comes to sleep, I think that that really is the
Speaker 5: basis for so much of how we start our day
Speaker 5: and how we feel throughout the day, our in our health.
Speaker 5: And one of the best ways you can do that
Speaker 5: is you know, I wear the pixel Watch three to
Speaker 5: bed every night, and you know, it has these advanced
Speaker 5: sensors that kind of measure all sorts of things throughout
Speaker 5: the night, like your skin temperature and your heart rate
Speaker 5: to really tell you how how well you're sleeping. And
Speaker 5: in the morning you get like this really cool score
Speaker 5: and a bunch of metrics about how much time you
Speaker 5: spent in each type of stage of sleep. And I'm
Speaker 5: a big data nerd, so this is like really fun
Speaker 5: for me to see every morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a data guy too. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they call myself a data nerd, but I'm a data
Speaker 2: guy and I've seen some of those, and to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I don't buy a lot of those.
Speaker 2: I I think when you get up in the morning,
Speaker 2: most people know if they've had a good night's sleep.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, one of the things that people if
Speaker 2: they want to improve this sleep is not drink as much.
Speaker 2: I mean I can tell you that, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was really true. And those are the and also
Speaker 2: if you can calm your mind, which I've tried to do.
Speaker 2: I work on Nick from eight to midnight, and I
Speaker 2: do four hours in the radio and sometimes we get
Speaker 2: into heated subjects, okay, And at midnight, my day is over,
Speaker 2: the new day is starting, and I haven't slept and
Speaker 2: you got to calm down, and I do the crossword
Speaker 2: puzzles out of the newspapers. I actually still get a
Speaker 2: written news handheld newspaper, and I try to do the
Speaker 2: crossword puzzles, and sometimes that really relaxes me, and I
Speaker 2: feel I get a better night's sleep if it's a
Speaker 2: little shorter, if it's only six or seven hours, as
Speaker 2: opposed to trying to go to bed and not have
Speaker 2: a RESTful night sleep. For me, that half hour doing
Speaker 2: a crossword puzzle and giving up when I'm tired, that
Speaker 2: helps me. Now I don't have a pixel watch on it.
Speaker 2: I can't prove it to you, but I can tell
Speaker 2: you it helps. Does that make any sense to you
Speaker 2: as somebody who who I'm sure follows what people do
Speaker 2: and what people don't do.
Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely, you know.
Speaker 5: I think everybody has their their kind of rituals before
Speaker 5: they go to bed at night. And the thing about
Speaker 5: the pixel Watch three is, you know, you get a
Speaker 5: score in the morning and you say, okay, I didn't
Speaker 5: maybe I didn't sleep that well. It'll actually fit fit up,
Speaker 5: will give you tips to say, okay, here are certain
Speaker 5: ways that you can kind of have good sleep hygiene
Speaker 5: and like turn off your phone, stop looking at your
Speaker 5: phone a couple hours before you go to bed, read
Speaker 5: a book, you know, do a crossword puzzle. Things like
Speaker 5: that that are really gonna relax you and help you
Speaker 5: have kind of a nice regular routine and mitual before
Speaker 5: going to bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I got a really regular routine I
Speaker 2: work with. If the show does it in until eleven
Speaker 2: fifty eight, ten, so late night, Well it is, but
Speaker 2: it's also intellectually your mind is running. That's my problem,
Speaker 2: and you shut it down when the last caller ends
Speaker 2: and you sign off. Everything is done. All you got
Speaker 2: to do then is do you know a little tidying
Speaker 2: up and you're all set. But it's it's tough. It's
Speaker 2: like people ending work at five o'clock and saying, no,
Speaker 2: you're not going to drive home. You have to sleep. Now,
Speaker 2: here's a bed, go to bed. Tough you do. Do
Speaker 2: you have a regular schedule? Are you a nine to
Speaker 2: five guy and you can you can get that time
Speaker 2: between five and whenever you go to bed to kind
Speaker 2: of kick back and relax a little bit, or are
Speaker 2: you is your schedule all over the place?
Speaker 5: Oh, you know, that's a good question.
Speaker 4: I'd have to say, I'm a little bit all over
Speaker 4: the place. You know, I'm one of those people that
Speaker 4: kind of tries to pack as much as I can.
Speaker 4: And in the day, you know, go to the gym
Speaker 4: early in the morning, before work, go to work till
Speaker 4: about you know, five, six, seven, and then come home
Speaker 4: and have a nice dinner and by then I'm in
Speaker 4: bed by ten. That's kind of nice.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully listening to Night's I only kidding. My most
Speaker 2: successful days are the days that I have the courage
Speaker 2: and the energy to get up, don't eat breakfast, go
Speaker 2: to the gym first. That if that should be that
Speaker 2: should be the key rule of my life that I'm
Speaker 2: taking from our interview, because if you can get up
Speaker 2: and go to the gym, so can I. Nick, I'll
Speaker 2: see at the gym. Thanks so much. How can folks
Speaker 2: find you and get some other information from you? That
Speaker 2: you must have a website or somewhere we can direct
Speaker 2: people to.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely so. For more trends, you can always go
Speaker 4: to Google dot com Fast Trends, or if you're interested
Speaker 4: in the pixel watch, you can go to the Google
Speaker 4: dot com Fast Story, where you can find a lot
Speaker 4: of wearable products that can help you sleep and fitness
Speaker 4: and off work with stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm afraid to ask how expensive are those pixel watches.
Speaker 4: They're not as bad as you would saying. We have
Speaker 4: a number of different models and the prices really range.
Speaker 5: So I think, so.
Speaker 2: You're telling me, you're telling me they're under fifty bucks, right, No,
Speaker 2: I'm only kidding. I suspect they're more than Thanks Nick,
Speaker 2: I'm just having a thanks Nick. Okay, when we get
Speaker 2: back right after the news, at the bottom of the hour,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about something that does impact your
Speaker 2: sleep negatively, and that is drinking. We're going to talk
Speaker 2: about the alcohol matrix. We have a guest who's an author,
Speaker 2: former alcoholic and PhD in psychology, Dustin dunbar awaits the
Speaker 2: other side of the eight thirty news here on Nightside,
Speaker 2: my name is Dan Ray. Stay with us. We get
Speaker 2: lots to cover between now and midnight. I promise. Okay,
Speaker 2: you're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, it is funny. Last hour we talked. Last segment,
Speaker 2: we were talking about sleep and perhaps the adverse impact
Speaker 2: of alcohol when you're trying to go to sleep. I mean,
Speaker 2: it keeps your mind active with us as Dustin Dunbar.
Speaker 2: He's an author, former alcoholic and a PhD in psychology.
Speaker 2: He's written I believe it's a book, am I correct?
Speaker 2: Called the Alcohol Matrix.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're doing great, and other lies alcohol told me.
Speaker 2: Alcohol told me, oh, oh you're doing great, and other
Speaker 2: lies alcohol told me. Okay, I get that. I see
Speaker 2: in quotes here alcohol matrix a web of lies and
Speaker 2: illusions that kept Dustin and many others trapped for years.
Speaker 2: Where does the phrase alcohol matrix come from?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's basically we're changing people's consciousness. So any Grace
Speaker 1: is the leading all time author of alcohol addiction book
Speaker 1: sales that were a million sold, and her and I
Speaker 1: are teaming up and guaranteeing that people will learn to
Speaker 1: control alcohol or become alcohol free within six months. And
Speaker 1: it's all about getting them out of the alcohol matrix,
Speaker 1: which is the consciousness that is saying that alcohol is
Speaker 1: the elixir of life, that you needed to have more fun,
Speaker 1: to sleep better, to have better sex, to do all
Speaker 1: these things, to go to parties, to do sporting events,
Speaker 1: and it's all just total total consciousness raising myths. You
Speaker 1: know that we get through and then everybody that we've
Speaker 1: had used the two books within the six months have
Speaker 1: either completely learned to control alcohol or gone alcohol free.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I think everybody knows what alcohol free means,
Speaker 2: and I have friends of mine. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: former Mayor of Boston, Marty Walsh, is admitted publicly that
Speaker 2: he was an alcoholic, and I guess also alcoholics always
Speaker 2: say once you're an alcoholic, even though when you get
Speaker 2: rid of it, you're always an alcoholic. I get that.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends of mine who are
Speaker 2: in AA IF I understand the idea of getting rid
Speaker 2: of it and just saying you know this, I'm getting
Speaker 2: this out of my life. How more difficult is it
Speaker 2: to utilize it but keep it under control? Because so
Speaker 2: many of my friends have made that one mistake one night,
Speaker 2: had a couple too many got behind a car and
Speaker 2: did something really dumb, got behind the wheel of a car.
Speaker 2: How is it more difficult to kick the habit or
Speaker 2: to control the habit? Is my question?
Speaker 1: Dustin in your opinion, Yeah, everybody's different. Everybody's individual. And
Speaker 1: I don't use the word alcoholic at all needed as
Speaker 1: any grace, and we use alcohol free because the myth
Speaker 1: is that once you are an alcoholic, you always are.
Speaker 1: And that's just absolutely not true. I have at zero cravings.
Speaker 1: It's just like somebody who'd smoke two packs of cigarette
Speaker 1: to day and later it was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't believe it used to do that. I stunk,
Speaker 1: I felt terrible. It was totally brainwashed everything like that.
Speaker 1: Whenever I see the best wine, beer, whatever, all I
Speaker 1: see is the amount of ethanol by volume. So ethanol
Speaker 1: is a scientific term for alcohol. And whenever we start
Speaker 1: saying ethanol versus alcohol, it takes away all of big
Speaker 1: Alcohol's brainwashing that they've done to us. And you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, why would you drink ethanol right versus alcohol?
Speaker 1: So you whatever, you have a bottle of wine up there,
Speaker 1: and it's like thirteen percent ethanol in there. You can
Speaker 1: put your finger up on the bottle and show, okay,
Speaker 1: there's thirteen percent ethanol that I'm going to put in
Speaker 1: my body if I drink this, and it's just a
Speaker 1: total different way, and then you're cure. And that's what
Speaker 1: we talk about. The magic till. Everybody wants the magic
Speaker 1: till these days, and the magic till is that we're
Speaker 1: completely using science and changing people's consciousness and we're not
Speaker 1: blaming the person for becoming addicted to a one hundred
Speaker 1: perc addictive substance.
Speaker 2: How did you get rid of the monkey or off
Speaker 2: your back or whatever you however you want to call it?
Speaker 2: Different people call it different things, and I want to
Speaker 2: use language that you're comfortable with. How did you become
Speaker 2: alcohol free?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, Annie Grace was my morpheus, if you will,
Speaker 1: with the matrix, and she just got my consciousness to
Speaker 1: agree to where we all know that ethanol alcohol is
Speaker 1: horrible for us, and we're like, oh jeez, yeah, but
Speaker 1: we're still doing it. It's kind of our crutch. It's
Speaker 1: our way to unwind all these things, right. But then
Speaker 1: there's this other side that we're like, what, I can
Speaker 1: still do it. I can handle it all these other
Speaker 1: other things. So the key to this is is to
Speaker 1: get both sides and have the cognitive dissonance. Is what
Speaker 1: is the problem where you're fully conscious that this stuff
Speaker 1: is ethanol and ethanol is poison. It's toxic, it's one
Speaker 1: hundred percent and addictive. Nobody can handle their ethanol. I
Speaker 1: don't care if you're the biggest, baddest, you know, New
Speaker 1: Zealand rugby player. Ever, once enough ethanol is consumed, you
Speaker 1: will get addicted.
Speaker 2: So help me out. And I probably am ignorant when
Speaker 2: I'm asking this question. Why are you interchanging? And I
Speaker 2: have not read your material, so forgive me for that.
Speaker 2: But why are you interchanging the word alcohol with ethanol?
Speaker 1: Or Yeah, like I said, that's the scientific word for
Speaker 1: so it's the same substance. Alcohol and ethanol are the
Speaker 1: exact same thing. But what big alcohol companies have done
Speaker 1: is such a wonderful job of brainwashing us with the
Speaker 1: word alcohol that it's this elixir and that it's fun
Speaker 1: and enjoy it and all this stuff. You gotta have
Speaker 1: it and you can drink it, no problems, two glasses
Speaker 1: a day, responsibly, moderately, socially. Exactly what I did, and
Speaker 1: of course I got I got addicted. Sothanol is the
Speaker 1: is what it is, and then we change people's way
Speaker 1: of thinking about it.
Speaker 2: It's funny when you say ethanol to me. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what I think. Okay, I think about a oh,
Speaker 2: a gas station that the ethanol I think in gasoline
Speaker 2: is there not?
Speaker 1: Yes, So ethanol what it is is the byproduct of
Speaker 1: fruits and vegetables. So the ethanol that you see in gasoleene,
Speaker 1: it's mostly from corn is where they get thatthanol. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're that's the exact same product that you go
Speaker 1: up to the gas station and you're like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: not putting there's ten ethanol in that gas. I'm not
Speaker 1: putting that in my motor. Well, then just later you
Speaker 1: go to a place and you get your order whiskey,
Speaker 1: and it's fortythanol in the same thing, and you're putting
Speaker 1: it in your brain, your body, your spirit, and it's
Speaker 1: pure toxic poison.
Speaker 2: And so that's great way to look at it. I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, Dustin, you have explained it very well
Speaker 2: to me. If my questions seemed ignorant, it was because, frankly,
Speaker 2: I had never made that connection. I thank you for
Speaker 2: making that connection for me and my audience. How can
Speaker 2: folks get your book? You're doing great and otherwise alcohol
Speaker 2: told me how I assume Amazon and all the typical
Speaker 2: sites if they're interested in getting the book for themselves
Speaker 2: or for a friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dustin dash dunbar dot com and you can pick
Speaker 1: up Annie Grace's book and my book right there. All
Speaker 1: the links are there, so Dustin Dash dunbar dot com.
Speaker 2: The U S T I N Dash. I assume that's
Speaker 2: like a hyphen dunbar dou n b a r dot
Speaker 2: com the alcohol free gu all right, Hey, Dustin, I
Speaker 2: enjoyed the conversation. I learned something from our conversation. I
Speaker 2: appreciate it very much. Take you taking the.
Speaker 1: Time dumb questions, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I happened. I happen to believe that too, because I
Speaker 2: learned that when I was in law school many many
Speaker 2: years ago, the only dumb questions were the questions that
Speaker 2: I didn't have the courage to ask, because often those
Speaker 2: are the questions they came up on the midterm or
Speaker 2: the final exam. So I am totally with you, and
Speaker 2: that's why I guess this is why I do this job.
Speaker 2: I'm not embarrassed to ask a question if I don't
Speaker 2: know the answer, because if I don't know the answer,
Speaker 2: I choose not to ask the question. I'll never know
Speaker 2: the answer, will I Thanks, Dustin, I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 1: We'll take care.
Speaker 2: Bye bye. When we come up, we have one final
Speaker 2: guest tonight, and we are going to talk about a
Speaker 2: huge problem that probably we need to focus on much more.
Speaker 2: And that is a nursing shortage here in New England
Speaker 2: and a nursing shortage nationwide. And I know I have
Speaker 2: many listeners, including one specific nurse who is always listening. Uh.
Speaker 2: And I want to dedicate this segment to every nurse
Speaker 2: who's listening to us night Side. We've heard about doctors shortages,
Speaker 2: but the shortage of nurses might even be statistically worse.
Speaker 2: Think about it. We're coming back with a great guest.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan ray Line from the window World
Speaker 2: of night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. All right,
Speaker 2: let's talk to my next guest here. Her name is
Speaker 2: Dina Redding Girl. She's the executive. She's an executive NBA
Speaker 2: with thirty five years of experience in healthcare, author of
Speaker 2: a book entitled Healing Healthcare, Evidence Based Strategies for Mending
Speaker 2: Our Broken System. Well, she wrote that, by the way,
Speaker 2: with Sharon Weinstein, who is a registered nurse. Look, we
Speaker 2: have some problems with our medical system in this country.
Speaker 2: I still think it's the best of any in the world.
Speaker 2: But I will tell you, Dina, we have a huge
Speaker 2: doctor shortage here in Boston. We like to think of
Speaker 2: ourselves as the medical capital. And when I say Boston,
Speaker 2: I mean Greater Boston, which makes up about half of
Speaker 2: New England. And there's a nursing shortage. I've seen it
Speaker 2: myself recently when I've had friends who were in hospitals
Speaker 2: and or rehabilitation centers. What happened? How did this happen?
Speaker 2: I mean, did everybody decide to retire at COVID? Was
Speaker 2: that what happened?
Speaker 3: I'm serious, I said no, it's very First off, Dan,
Speaker 3: thank you for having me. And this is a critical
Speaker 3: issue that we have. I mean, this is so big
Speaker 3: and people really need to wake up. And we've had
Speaker 3: this problem before. What's exacerbated was the COVID situation, and
Speaker 3: we continue to have this problem, except it's worse now.
Speaker 3: We've got nurses that are leaving because they're fatigued, they're
Speaker 3: burned out, they're overworked, they're overwhelmed. There's incivility, and they're
Speaker 3: staff shortages and they are frantic, but they're just they're
Speaker 3: shaking head and going, I can't take this anymore, and
Speaker 3: we lose our nurse. The nurses, you know, is the
Speaker 3: person who's the voice of you, the patient, but they're
Speaker 3: also the collaborator with the physician who's going to help
Speaker 3: make decisions about your care. So this is critical, very
Speaker 3: critical time.
Speaker 2: It's totally critical. Now the shortage is it standard across
Speaker 2: the country or are there some areas just focusing on
Speaker 2: the nursing shortage where it's greater than ever. Is it
Speaker 2: rural communities or is it urban areas? Where is it?
Speaker 2: Where's this nursing shortage the most critical?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: First off, it's everywhere. So I'm just going to say
Speaker 3: that when we do have the outlying areas that we have,
Speaker 3: you know, when you start looking at nurses that are
Speaker 3: falling out and quitting, you know, it affects everybody. Across
Speaker 3: the United States. There are forty two states according to
Speaker 3: the Beckers Hospital Review, that have closed. You know a
Speaker 3: lot of medical centers have closed. Forty two medical centers
Speaker 3: have closed this last year. So and they're they're everywhere
Speaker 3: they can be, rule they can be inside of you know,
Speaker 3: the main suburbs of our city.
Speaker 4: So it's it's a critical issue.
Speaker 3: And it's just going to get worse. So we see
Speaker 3: it everywhere.
Speaker 2: So are there not enough nurses coming out of nursing schools?
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that there's a lot of nursing schools.
Speaker 2: Do they need to move more women. I know that
Speaker 2: a lot of people, men and women have decided to
Speaker 2: become let's see physician's assistance. I think is the friends
Speaker 2: pas uh is that considered to be, you know, a
Speaker 2: higher calling than being a nurse. I can't imagine anything
Speaker 2: that is a higher calling than being.
Speaker 4: A nurse now.
Speaker 3: I think the nurse is one of the most trusted
Speaker 3: careers that in the United States and really across the world.
Speaker 3: And according to the American Nurse Foundation. You know, when
Speaker 3: we look at this shortage, now, we've got a lot
Speaker 3: of nurses that are leaving, but we also have a
Speaker 3: lot of people that are interested in being a nurse.
Speaker 3: But yet we have a huge number of you know,
Speaker 3: nurses who are being denied getting into school because there's
Speaker 3: not enough nurses to actually teach the academic side of nursing.
Speaker 3: Then we get into the problem of we've got a
Speaker 3: lot of nurses that have been nurses for a long
Speaker 3: time they've decided to kind of throw up their hands
Speaker 3: or saying I'm done. I've had my share of nursing.
Speaker 3: I love it, but it's time for me to go.
Speaker 3: And we see all of that knowledge leaving, you know,
Speaker 3: with all of the older nurses. Now we've got new
Speaker 3: nurses that are trying to come out being new nurses.
Speaker 3: But then we don't even have the schools being able
Speaker 3: to take on the nurses who even want to meet
Speaker 3: nurses because of the academic shortage and that knowledge loss.
Speaker 3: So we've got a great, big chunk of knowledge that
Speaker 3: is leaving, and people don't understand when you leave that,
Speaker 3: you know, that nurse knowledge leaves, it's hard to find
Speaker 3: that and get that back.
Speaker 4: So it's a critical time.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a math guy. I'm a math guy. So
Speaker 2: my question is we've had a period of you know,
Speaker 2: decades where the uh, the number of children babies that
Speaker 2: are being born is not at the rate that it
Speaker 2: used to be back in the day of a family.
Speaker 2: Now of three is considered a large of three children
Speaker 2: is considered wow, three children, whereas in the old days
Speaker 2: that you had to get the double digits before anyone
Speaker 2: really noticed. And you also had this aging population they're
Speaker 2: my group called the baby boomers. So those two mathematical
Speaker 2: sets of statistics, a huge wave of boomers now going
Speaker 2: through their seventies and into their eighties, with a smaller
Speaker 2: population coming behind. Is that a mathematical fact factor that
Speaker 2: has to be considered here.
Speaker 3: Yes, And on top of that, what we have as
Speaker 3: far as the statistics through the American Nurse Foundation is
Speaker 3: also stating that, you know, new nurses are deciding to
Speaker 3: get out and they've only been a nurse for two years.
Speaker 3: So you take those numbers that you just talked about,
Speaker 3: and you talk about new nurses coming out, they're not confident.
Speaker 3: We don't have enough preceptors right now. And you know,
Speaker 3: Jen Riggins, who is part of the Virginia second Congressional District,
Speaker 3: has got a bill out there called the Precept Nurses Act,
Speaker 3: and it's a seven year pilot program that they're trying
Speaker 3: to get passed through to be able to create a
Speaker 3: gap here, you know, something that will fill that gap
Speaker 3: for new hires nurses who need more knowledge so that
Speaker 3: it can precept the students and actually help also those
Speaker 3: advanced practitioner candidates as well. So there's some things that
Speaker 3: are happening, but you know, the numbers are striking when you.
Speaker 4: Look at all of it.
Speaker 3: There's so many things that are happening right now, and
Speaker 3: new nurses if they don't stay. You know, Sharon and
Speaker 3: I predicted in twenty years there won't be any healthcare.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this. You use the word
Speaker 2: with which I'm unfamiliar and I when I don't know
Speaker 2: a word? What does preceptor mean? What does is that
Speaker 2: a term of art? Yeah, in the nursing community, explain
Speaker 2: what that means?
Speaker 3: Now, preceptor is like a mentorship, right, So, nurses who
Speaker 3: want to be preceptors for other nurses, they have to
Speaker 3: go through a very rigorous training to do that. Most
Speaker 3: of the preceptors have to do a lot of extra
Speaker 3: training that's on their own expense. And if this bill passes,
Speaker 3: it really allows these preceptors to realize a two thousand
Speaker 3: dollars tax credit. So I think, you know, the society
Speaker 3: needs to know how can we help nurses too? You know,
Speaker 3: you can help by getting involved with your state, you know,
Speaker 3: local people that are part of you know that your
Speaker 3: congressional district, and try to help push some of this
Speaker 3: agenda of making sure that we retain this key knowledge
Speaker 3: that we're using at a vast rate right now.
Speaker 2: Right, But if let's say some veteran nurses would like
Speaker 2: to be mentors to some mentees who are interested. Why
Speaker 2: do we even have to have government involved in it.
Speaker 2: Why don't we just say to those nurses, hey, you
Speaker 2: go ahead, you go and help whoever you can help,
Speaker 2: give them some insight into the field. I mean, what's
Speaker 2: you know, if someone wants to become a golfer and
Speaker 2: they want to go and take some golf lessons, we
Speaker 2: don't need a congressional you know study on that. Well,
Speaker 2: you just got golf, you know.
Speaker 5: We do.
Speaker 3: You know, you've got to have You know, these nurses
Speaker 3: that have been nurses for a really long time, they
Speaker 3: have been screaming for somebody to listen to them for
Speaker 3: so long. We've missed the boat. We've got to wake up.
Speaker 3: We've got to be able to create the environment for
Speaker 3: these nurses so they can stay. They've been shouting this
Speaker 3: from the mountaintops for a really long time, and you know,
Speaker 3: they're just to this point that they're shaking their hands
Speaker 3: and they're saying, we've got to get some help, wake
Speaker 3: up world help.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, keep us posted as to anything we can do.
Speaker 2: Your book, Healing Healthcare, Evidence Based Strategies for Mending our
Speaker 2: Broken System, Dina reading Er, thank you so much. Thanks
Speaker 2: for talking about this tonight. I'd love to do it again,
Speaker 2: so Le Sucky, we would love.
Speaker 6: To do that too.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and you can go to diagnosticsthinking
Speaker 3: dot com if you want some other resources. Take care
Speaker 3: and thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Dan. When we get back right after the
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