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<v Speaker 1>TXY around. This is the seventy seven WABC Mini cast.

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<v Speaker 2>Well calling in today is Senator Eric Schmidt from the

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<v Speaker 2>great State of Missouri, and he was the Attorney General

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<v Speaker 2>for many years before becoming the United States Senator. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Senator you you were always looking out for our listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>or consumers, or our taxpayers. There's so much fraud going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been scratching my head. I'm getting a bold spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me, give me an update, give all our listeners

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<v Speaker 2>an update. What the heck is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the good news, John Well, the bad

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<v Speaker 1>news is there's fraud happening all across this country that's

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<v Speaker 1>costing taxpayers trillions of dollars in taking money away and

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<v Speaker 1>services away from people who need it the most. The

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<v Speaker 1>good news is we have an administration now that is

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<v Speaker 1>very focused on taking on fraud across this country. I

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<v Speaker 1>was at a round table with the vice president vice

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<v Speaker 1>president of VANCE earlier this week. We talked about sort

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<v Speaker 1>of progress that's being made. I met with the new

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<v Speaker 1>attorney and the Justice Department that this is his focus,

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<v Speaker 1>going around the country working with US attorneys, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what you need. You need a Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice and administration that is held in on taking on

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<v Speaker 1>this rampant fraud. And I think it came into full

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<v Speaker 1>view for the American people at the beginning of this

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<v Speaker 1>year when they saw, you know, this Somali enclave in

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<v Speaker 1>Minneapolis that had all these fake daycare centers that were

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<v Speaker 1>builking taxpayers millions and millions and millions of dollars, and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody was there, you know, and it was actually like

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<v Speaker 1>an independent It was just this Nick Shirley guy going

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<v Speaker 1>around with his own camera and covering this, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've seen more of that in places like California,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that, like I said, the real challenge

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<v Speaker 1>here is not only is an insult and costing trillions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars to taxpayers. I think of the guy you

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<v Speaker 1>know in Missouri that's swinging the hammer, or the construction

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<v Speaker 1>guy in New York that's just working his ass off

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<v Speaker 1>every day, working over time, seven days a week to

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<v Speaker 1>make ends meet. It's infuriating for that guy to know

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<v Speaker 1>that there's somebody, you know, like, w We've just came

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<v Speaker 1>over here from Somalia created this scheme, got rich and

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<v Speaker 1>off the taxpayers. I mean, that is infuriating. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just think we have to have a laser like focus.

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing that from this administration. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a good result. You mentioned my time as Attorney general.

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<v Speaker 1>We were very focused on taking on fraud, taking on

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<v Speaker 1>violent crime. That is what the focus of the Justice

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<v Speaker 1>Department should be, not this weaponization we saw on the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden administration where they were going after Catholics, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were going after parents who show up at school board

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<v Speaker 1>meetings under the Patriot Act. They were going after political enemies.

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<v Speaker 1>They tried to put President Trump in jail for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of his life. You saw it unfold there in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, even with Alvin Bragg. This law fair, That

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<v Speaker 1>isn't what the American people want. They want, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>law and order. They want people put away who commit

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<v Speaker 1>violent crimes, and they want these fraudsters to go to

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<v Speaker 1>jail too.

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<v Speaker 2>We want honesty and integrity. Now, we had doctor oz

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<v Speaker 2>on the other day and he talked about the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of fraud going on, especially in the medicaid the field

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<v Speaker 2>uh in. But does any of them go to jail?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for a long time, John, there are people

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<v Speaker 1>that if the fraud was under a million dollars, were

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<v Speaker 1>never at risk of going to jail. I think that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have to stiffen the penalties. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to enforce the laws we have. I'm working on legislation

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<v Speaker 1>that would stiff in these penalties. People should go to

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<v Speaker 1>jail for a long time if they're doing this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just like I said, it's it's robbery from

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<v Speaker 1>hard working folks. And and the other the other aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of this is there are people who these these programs

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<v Speaker 1>are intended to help who are robbed of those services too,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people with disabilities, those those who who can't

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<v Speaker 1>help themselves that you know, the elderly or a homebound

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<v Speaker 1>that that's what the intention of these of these of

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<v Speaker 1>these programs were. And they're being you know, builked and

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<v Speaker 1>robbed and shaken down by these fraudsters. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's frustrating to a lot of people. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we ought to have greater expectations from the states

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<v Speaker 1>right now. A lot of those dollars, those medicaid dollars, John,

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<v Speaker 1>they just they go the check goes out from the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government to the states and they and they have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea if these people are alive or dead or

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<v Speaker 1>fraud you know, defrauding that state. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we had, you know, in the Working Families Tax cut,

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<v Speaker 1>the one big beautiful bill last year, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>strongest anti fraud measures ever in this country. And now

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<v Speaker 1>those can be enforced. And so you need you need

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<v Speaker 1>better data, you need stiffer penalties, and you need the

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<v Speaker 1>bandwidth of these prosecutors to go out and do their jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, some of the things I don't understand, especially uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that state that's near you, Michigan. I mean, how can

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<v Speaker 2>you elect a guy that is so anti American and

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<v Speaker 2>get it? How can a guy like that get so

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<v Speaker 2>many votes?

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild? You know. I think for a while people

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<v Speaker 1>were just dismissing this as a thing that was happening

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<v Speaker 1>in some of the blue cities. But when somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>that is elected in a Democrat primary in a state

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<v Speaker 1>like Michigan, that is a wake up call. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, you know, for a lot of people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how is this possible? Well, you know, when you ship

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of jobs overseas and then people who are

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<v Speaker 1>left behind, like where I grew up, looking for jobs

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<v Speaker 1>and those wages are suppressed through illegal immigration or a

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<v Speaker 1>broken legal immigration system. Quite quite frankly, people get frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>and that is what these socialists, these communists are tapping into.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're just talking about redistributing existing resources, right and

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<v Speaker 1>in opening up government grocery stores, which we know won't work.

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<v Speaker 1>And really what we need is we need more jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>we need more opportunity, we need more energy, we need

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<v Speaker 1>more abundance. We need less scarcity, more abundance, and more

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<v Speaker 1>prosperity for people. And that is what the competing visions are.

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<v Speaker 1>It is really about less versus more. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>it is wild. I think as a Republican, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you may want to say, hey, this is good for

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<v Speaker 1>a matchup so we can draw contrast. Maybe that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>But as an American, this is a this is a

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying moment where you have these people who don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>believe in America. They don't actually believe in free enterprise.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually believe in the control that the government provide.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at Mndomi. He's talking about IDs in

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<v Speaker 1>these government grocery stores, but doesn't want to have people

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<v Speaker 1>to prove who they are when they vote, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they want to flood this country with illegal immigrants,

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<v Speaker 1>sign them up for benefits, get them dependent on the

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<v Speaker 1>government and vote for them, because they have lost the

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<v Speaker 1>case with the American people, the Americans out there that

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<v Speaker 1>work hard, want a better life for the families. They've

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<v Speaker 1>lost those arguments. So now they just want to bring

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<v Speaker 1>more people in and get them dependent on the government

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<v Speaker 1>or I guess you know, work on some of these

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<v Speaker 1>scams we saw in Minneapolis, uh, and make them their voters.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have to we have to be vigilant in

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<v Speaker 1>fighting against that. It's always good to join you, John.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate all you do and for all your listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Been on your show a bunch over the years. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want everybody God bless everybody, and and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, senator, and thank you for everything

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<v Speaker 2>you do for for America, and continue to speak out

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<v Speaker 2>for everything and we'll catch up again. Thank you.