Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog.
Speaker 1: My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: Or was it was?
Speaker 1: Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
Speaker 1: and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside,
Speaker 1: Jesus Quice you bick Hello, hit the boddy out here, quin,
Speaker 1: I'm out there.
Speaker 3: I thought of a.
Speaker 1: Bitch about tech forty nine. I don't know easy out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm buking right, Hey you do.
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for joining me for the show. I
Speaker 4: got to sit down and talk to Michael Abe and
Speaker 4: Connor from the Minnesota Bigfoot Research team. I actually met
Speaker 4: Abe out at the Ohio Bigfoot conference earlier this summer.
Speaker 4: We had a blast hanging out there with those guys,
Speaker 4: so I invited them on to talk about some of
Speaker 4: their amazing experiences while they're out in the field looking
Speaker 4: for these creatures, and they did not disappoint. Michael starts
Speaker 4: off telling us about his three Class A sidings. Then
Speaker 4: we move on to Connor and some of the amazing
Speaker 4: experiences he's had, and then we finish up with Abe
Speaker 4: and some of the things that he's experienced while he's
Speaker 4: been out in the field. This is definitely something you
Speaker 4: don't want to miss. So I really appreciate you guys
Speaker 4: being here. I am still traveling as you guys are
Speaker 4: listening to this. I am still out West filming for
Speaker 4: the new documentary that I'm a part of, so I
Speaker 4: will be back later this week, but have no fear
Speaker 4: of the episodes will continue to drop as always. So
Speaker 4: without further ado, all this left for you to do
Speaker 4: is sit back, relax.
Speaker 5: And enjoy the show.
Speaker 4: So welcome our guests to the show. First, I want
Speaker 4: to start with Michael from Minnesota. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 6: Man, Hi, glad to be here.
Speaker 4: I'm glad to have you. Connor, Welcome to the show,
Speaker 4: my friend.
Speaker 7: Thank you matter to be here. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4: I'm glad to have you guys, I've been looking forward
Speaker 4: to this for a while. Let me go to Michael
Speaker 4: first year in the hot seat, my friend, Let's start
Speaker 4: with what got you interested in the subject a bigfoot?
Speaker 4: To begin with, I.
Speaker 6: Was about fourteen years old on my deerstand and I
Speaker 6: had one walk into a shooting lane at about i'd
Speaker 6: say twenty twenty five feet away from me. I was
Speaker 6: sitting there in disbelieve. I couldn't believe what I was witnessing.
Speaker 6: This thing was about seven feet tall, very dark in color.
Speaker 6: My face looked prehistorically a caveman face. I shat there
Speaker 6: for about thirty seconds to a minute before I finally
Speaker 6: said something. This thing turned and looked at me. Within
Speaker 6: two steps was off into the woods, into the cedars.
Speaker 5: That was it.
Speaker 6: But prior to that I could smell it, the scent
Speaker 6: the wind was coming towards me. This saying seemed real,
Speaker 6: confused because it knew something wasn't right. It walked into
Speaker 6: a shooting lane a few weeks prior to that that
Speaker 6: shooting lane was not there. It was looking around confused
Speaker 6: until I said something and it turned and looked right
Speaker 6: at me, like I say, two steps and was going
Speaker 6: into the woods. That got me into that. That was
Speaker 6: back in the early seventies. For the last basically forty years,
Speaker 6: I've been researching up here and part of the Minnesota
Speaker 6: Bigfoot research team up here in northern Minnesota.
Speaker 4: Prior to you having that experience, was Bigfoot something on
Speaker 4: your radar? Had you seen the Patterson Gimlin fam had
Speaker 4: you seen some of the Jerry cru stuff in the fifties?
Speaker 4: Was it on your radar at all? And did you
Speaker 4: immediately know what you were looking at when this thing
Speaker 4: stepped out in front of you.
Speaker 6: You got to realize back then, I've never heard of
Speaker 6: such a thing, And we did not have television up
Speaker 6: here when I was a kid. We're lucky to have
Speaker 6: FM radio. So I found out through other people what
Speaker 6: I had seen. Some of the old time loggers that
Speaker 6: were up here actually had stories of their own. They
Speaker 6: seen the same creature out on the logging sites. I'm
Speaker 6: talking back in the forties fifties when they were doing
Speaker 6: major logging up here in Minnesota. So I got educated
Speaker 6: that way. When we finally got television, a little more
Speaker 6: educated off of that. But a lot of it has
Speaker 6: just been from my experiences out in the woods. I've
Speaker 6: had infrasound under me. I've had them follow me, I've
Speaker 6: heard their mumble talk. I've had quite a few things
Speaker 6: happened to me out in the woods. I've actually seen
Speaker 6: three of them. The second one was out on the
Speaker 6: lake in March, walking across the ice. That was my
Speaker 6: second encounter, and the third encounter I had was what
Speaker 6: the group called all gas and no breaks. Abe and
Speaker 6: I took them out in the woods for the night
Speaker 6: and had the third encounter. One stepped out onto the trail,
Speaker 6: probably about thirty yards ahead of me, and stood here
Speaker 6: for a few minutes, and then walked back into the woods.
Speaker 6: Upon returning to our vehicles, which was about I want
Speaker 6: to say, five mile Hiken. This thing paralleled me and
Speaker 6: another person that was with me for at least three
Speaker 6: and a half to four miles of paralleledness. It wasn't
Speaker 6: a moose. A moose will usually follow you for maybe
Speaker 6: a few blocks, but not three four miles like this
Speaker 6: thing did. Abe missed it. He was in the woods
Speaker 6: with the guys off the trail showing him how to
Speaker 6: do tree knocks, and this thing come out under the trail.
Speaker 6: I had a young man by the name of Dylan
Speaker 6: that was standing with me on the trail. This kid
Speaker 6: freaked out. He took off running. I actually had to
Speaker 6: go grab him. He wanted to get out of the woods.
Speaker 6: This thing scared the heck got him. Yeah. Throughout the
Speaker 6: last forty years, I've had some interesting things happened to me.
Speaker 5: Sounds like it.
Speaker 4: Let's go back to your first sighting of this thing.
Speaker 4: Once you saw this thing step out into the shooting lane,
Speaker 4: you obviously saw this thing was huge. You identified it
Speaker 4: as a bigfoot sasquatch. Can you talk about what happened
Speaker 4: in the days after. Was it something that you shared
Speaker 4: with other people. Was it something that you talked about,
Speaker 4: or did you keep it to yourself and then go
Speaker 4: down the rabbit hole and start doing the investigations after that? Then,
Speaker 4: if you wouldn't mind, after you answer those couple of questions,
Speaker 4: go into that second experience where you saw one of
Speaker 4: these things and talk a little bit about the surroundings,
Speaker 4: what was going on when you saw it.
Speaker 6: Prior to my first sighting, I could chee something moving
Speaker 6: through It was dark. First, I thought it was maybe
Speaker 6: a moose, and I could hear this chirping noise, shawned
Speaker 6: like a bird, chirping was really strange, and then it
Speaker 6: walked out. After I'd seen it, I grabbed my gear,
Speaker 6: my rifle and stuff, and I got the heck OUTITOR
Speaker 6: met my dad back at base camp and told my
Speaker 6: dad what I had seen. He had told me, don't
Speaker 6: shame nothing about it, but he didn't want to be embarrassed,
Speaker 6: so I kept it on myself. I told a few people,
Speaker 6: and that's when I essentially got educated on what I
Speaker 6: had seen. My dad and I went out there the
Speaker 6: next day. Back to my stand, I said the thing
Speaker 6: was standing about a foot below the pine branch coming
Speaker 6: off this white pine, so we estimated the height of
Speaker 6: it at about seven feet. Eventually I had another sighting.
Speaker 6: That's when I got really big into the research. The
Speaker 6: second sighting I had was out on the ice. I
Speaker 6: had moved back up here in two thousand and seven
Speaker 6: or two thousand and eight. I didn't have running water.
Speaker 6: I'm living in an old cabin that my dad and
Speaker 6: I built in the seventies, next door to where I
Speaker 6: grew up. So my ritual every morning was to walk
Speaker 6: down onto the ice as the sun was coming up.
Speaker 6: I had a hole chopped in the ice and i'd
Speaker 6: get water for the sun on it, or the dishes
Speaker 6: and whatever I needed. I would sit out there on
Speaker 6: the ice until the sun came up. This thing came
Speaker 6: out of the northeast side of the lake, out of
Speaker 6: the boat landing, walked along the north side of the
Speaker 6: lake on the shore or actually out on the ice,
Speaker 6: but along the shore lane. The lake that I'm on
Speaker 6: is pretty narrow. You can see across it, pretty easy,
Speaker 6: small lake. This thing walked along the shore lane on
Speaker 6: the ice and back into the woods. But it covered
Speaker 6: about a block of two blocks in a matter of minutes.
Speaker 6: This thing was just hiking. I couldn't walk that fast.
Speaker 6: It was just unbelievable. After that, I came out of
Speaker 6: the closet. I kept it to myself. All these years,
Speaker 6: I did research, but I didn't tell anybody what I
Speaker 6: was doing. After that, the gloves were off, I was
Speaker 6: all into the Bigfoot research at that point.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about your third siding. I found it interesting
Speaker 4: you were talking about this thing paralleling you out. Let's
Speaker 4: talk about where you were at where you were doing.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming you guys were doing research at the time
Speaker 4: when you had this sideing, because you mentioned Abe was
Speaker 4: there and he mentioned he missed it. Can you talk
Speaker 4: a little bit about what you guys were doing and
Speaker 4: tell us more in detail what you saw when you
Speaker 4: had your third signing.
Speaker 6: Actually we were up in Reamer. I don't believe it
Speaker 6: was the big Foot data. I think it was the
Speaker 6: Harvest festival. But anyhow, all gas and no brakes were
Speaker 6: in town. He talked to Abe, talked to us into
Speaker 6: taking them out into the field that night. So we
Speaker 6: took him out in an undisclosed location out of Reamer.
Speaker 6: Like I say, we walked in about four to five
Speaker 6: miles at least, and Abe was demonstrating different tree knocks
Speaker 6: and vocalizations and this and that, and we were making
Speaker 6: an excessive amount of noise. Abe had walked off the
Speaker 6: trail with these guys and the cameras and he was
Speaker 6: demonstrating a tree knock. And this young man by the
Speaker 6: name of Dillon Kim and I were standing on the
Speaker 6: trail and I happened to look up the trail and
Speaker 6: this thing walked out standing there and it was swaying
Speaker 6: back and forth for probably thirty seconds or so. I
Speaker 6: yelled to Abe. I said, Abe, you guys, we got
Speaker 6: one on the trail. But By the time they walked
Speaker 6: out to the trail where we were, this thing had
Speaker 6: stepped into the woods. So from that point we continued
Speaker 6: up the trail doing tree knocks. We got up probably
Speaker 6: i want to say, another two miles maybe two and
Speaker 6: a half miles up the trail. At that point it
Speaker 6: was getting pretty dark. We decided, okay, we're going to leave.
Speaker 6: We're going to get out of there. The film crew
Speaker 6: wanted to get back. Gill and I were to last
Speaker 6: two in line, and we were probably a good hundred
Speaker 6: yards behind Abe and the film crew. This thing paralleled
Speaker 6: us the whole way out. We could hear it walk
Speaker 6: into our right. We'd stop, it stopped, we'd stop it stopped.
Speaker 6: It did this I want to say probably three miles
Speaker 6: maybe four miles to the tee in the trail. That's
Speaker 6: where we all met up, and from there it was
Speaker 6: a straight shot to the vehicle. Moose are very curious.
Speaker 6: I've been followed in the woods by moose more than once,
Speaker 6: even bear, but usually after a few blocks they figure
Speaker 6: out what they are and then they just bought her
Speaker 6: own direction. But this thing followed us. It followed us
Speaker 6: for three miles at least, Like they say, we'd move it.
Speaker 6: When we'd stop, it would stop. It wasn't trying to
Speaker 6: be quiet by any means.
Speaker 4: I want to bring Connory and to put you on
Speaker 4: the hot seat a little bit here, buddy, what guy
Speaker 4: you interested in the subject to begin with?
Speaker 8: So as a kid, I was always interested in the
Speaker 8: idea of monsters, wear wolves and alhariis Frankenstein, whatever. But
Speaker 8: Bigfoot was one that was something tangible, right, something that
Speaker 8: could exist. I remember as a kid, I'd watch all
Speaker 8: the old Bigfoot movies. I saw the Patterson Giblin film,
Speaker 8: I've seen all the documentaries associated with it. I had
Speaker 8: my own opinion based on the evidence and obviously the
Speaker 8: desire for it to be real.
Speaker 7: So it's always been a passion of mine, and I've
Speaker 7: always liked being out of the woods and hiking. They
Speaker 7: go hand in hand. But as I got older, I.
Speaker 8: Fell off of the subject just because a lot of
Speaker 8: the TV shows out there are kind of hokey in
Speaker 8: my opinion, they made the subject feel less authentic, so
Speaker 8: I fell off. But I found Expedition Bigfoot when I
Speaker 8: was sick at home for COVID. That's where I fell
Speaker 8: back in love with it because of the evidence right.
Speaker 8: Although the show might be a little hopey, the evidence
Speaker 8: withstood made me see pass that in a way. So
Speaker 8: that's what kind of brought me back to it. And
Speaker 8: here I am.
Speaker 4: Now you're a part of the Minnesota Bigfoot Research team.
Speaker 4: So I'm assuming you get out in the woods. What
Speaker 4: kind of experiences have you had while you're out looking
Speaker 4: for these things or any other time you've been out.
Speaker 5: In the woods.
Speaker 8: So with that interest, I started looking at sightings in Minnesota.
Speaker 8: I was using the BFROL website. I was trying to
Speaker 8: find clustered sightings and not sightings that were from like
Speaker 8: nineteen eighty six or like even nineteen ninety, but more
Speaker 8: so recent right like twenty eleven, twenty thirteen. It doesn't
Speaker 8: seem like they updated too frequently. But I was trying
Speaker 8: to find something within the time we live right now.
Speaker 8: So I took my little brother. I planned a trip
Speaker 8: to Voyager National Park pretty close to the border of
Speaker 8: Canada up north Minnesota. I think that took us about
Speaker 8: a four and a half hours up or something. I
Speaker 8: wasn't prepared at all for it. We trudged through the woods.
Speaker 8: I got him lost a couple of times this trail.
Speaker 8: I called it's not named that, but I called the
Speaker 8: Forgotten Trail because we spent forever trying to find it,
Speaker 8: and it was just so overgrown and it was hidden
Speaker 8: with the trees, and the brush that was on the
Speaker 8: trail was like up.
Speaker 7: To your waist. You couldn't see your feet at all.
Speaker 8: I took him through there. Eventually we lost the trail.
Speaker 8: Whatever trail there was, we lost it. It's hard to
Speaker 8: think about if it was just us out there lost
Speaker 8: and the fact that it was eerie, or if it
Speaker 8: was actually eerie because something else. But all I know
Speaker 8: is when we turned around and went back, because we
Speaker 8: couldn't find the campsite, we decided to go camp somewhere else.
Speaker 8: There was this bridge that was going over a stream.
Speaker 8: That was the only place that you would get any
Speaker 8: reprieve from the bugs. The mosquitos were so thick that
Speaker 8: he said that the back of my pants I was
Speaker 8: weren't blue jeans, but the back of my pants were brown.
Speaker 7: Because of all the mosquitos.
Speaker 8: So the only place we could get on your reprieve
Speaker 8: was on this bridge. We laid on the bridge. We're
Speaker 8: just sitting there, just enjoying the sun and no bugs
Speaker 8: and we hear a knock, and I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 8: And at first I didn't really make a big deal
Speaker 8: of it, but then it happened a second time and
Speaker 8: he heard them both right, So we hear these knocks.
Speaker 8: I knocked back, but nothing happens. Then he goes Connor,
Speaker 8: do you have your binoculars? I was like, I do,
Speaker 8: but they're buried in my backpack. Why And he's honestly,
Speaker 8: I'm not trying to get your hopes up or anything,
Speaker 8: but I see something like moving behind a tree. So anyway,
Speaker 8: I fumble, I get the binoculars out. I give him
Speaker 8: to him because he sees where it is. I talked
Speaker 8: to him about this last Thursday because it just got
Speaker 8: brought up.
Speaker 7: I'm with the group now and.
Speaker 8: I've had experiences and I'm just talking about him, and
Speaker 8: then this comes up. He's I can't tell you what
Speaker 8: it was, but he goes, I know for a fact
Speaker 8: that it was auburn brown and it was moving behind
Speaker 8: a tree. So when I grabbed the binoculars, I didn't
Speaker 8: see it, but he says he did. So I walked
Speaker 8: down to where it was. There's a dip in the terrain,
Speaker 8: so you're going to where this tree was that he
Speaker 8: saw it, and there's a dip in the terrain. When
Speaker 8: I get there, I'm yelling at him, hey can you
Speaker 8: see me? And he can just see my head. So
Speaker 8: if he did see something there, it had to be
Speaker 8: much taller than I was in order for him to
Speaker 8: see it, just because of the slope in the ground.
Speaker 8: So that was interesting. That was my first experience. But
Speaker 8: I know for sure that when we were in the woods,
Speaker 8: we didn't hear anything like, no knocking, nothing, And then
Speaker 8: as soon as we get to that bridge and we
Speaker 8: sit down, we hear it. So I don't know if
Speaker 8: they're communicating to each other that we were out or what,
Speaker 8: and then he saw something. So that was the first
Speaker 8: experience that I had that was real.
Speaker 4: Have you had other experiences when you've been out looking
Speaker 4: for these things?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So there's a place in Superior National Park that there
Speaker 8: was a cluster of sightings. It was probably about eight
Speaker 8: or nine years ago that they had them. For the
Speaker 8: most recent one, I went there. It was just a
Speaker 8: shot in the dark that went with me and my dog.
Speaker 8: Once again, he's up there towards the border of Canada.
Speaker 8: It's a campground this time so it's a proved of site,
Speaker 8: but it's connected to a campground. I get there, I
Speaker 8: set up camp, and by the time I go to bed,
Speaker 8: I'm laying there and I'm about to close my eyes.
Speaker 8: Then I hear knocking happening across the lake. It was
Speaker 8: almost like code, like they were communicating to each other
Speaker 8: across the lake. It was like knock and then knock,
Speaker 8: and then I'd go knock and be like, nah, it was
Speaker 8: really weird. I heard it for probably like an hour
Speaker 8: they were doing it. The thing is, it's not normal.
Speaker 8: There's islands out on that lake which have campgrounds, but
Speaker 8: you would see fire, there would be people there. Plus
Speaker 8: I would always go on a Thursday, so a lot
Speaker 8: of the times there wasn't too many people up there
Speaker 8: yet until Friday evening. But just like the time of night,
Speaker 8: how rapid they were and how loud they were, I
Speaker 8: don't think it was people. When I got back to service,
Speaker 8: I looked up online if woodpeckers are nocturnal, and they're not.
Speaker 8: They do their thing during the day, they sleep and
Speaker 8: nest at night. Not only that, but just the sound
Speaker 8: is different. It's more rapid instead of like methodical, like
Speaker 8: Morris code, and they don't communicate to each other either.
Speaker 8: They're not sitting there knocking and the other one knocks back.
Speaker 8: We're doing it to find food. So it's just really interesting.
Speaker 8: So that happened, and I took my little brother up there,
Speaker 8: the same one that I took through Hell. I took
Speaker 8: him up there, probably a couple weeks later, same thing.
Speaker 8: We're about to go to bed. We hear it again.
Speaker 7: It was cool for me, but I had heard it.
Speaker 8: I was tired, so I fell asleep, but he stayed
Speaker 8: up the entire night listening to it. He refused to
Speaker 8: go pete. He held his peet the entire night. So
Speaker 8: when we got up in the morning, I asked him
Speaker 8: if he heard it. He was like, yeah, Then obviously
Speaker 8: I fell asleep.
Speaker 5: He held his pee.
Speaker 7: Then we got up in the morning. I was like, so,
Speaker 7: how was that. He goes that wasn't normal. I was like, no,
Speaker 7: it wasn't normal. I think I told you that's creepy.
Speaker 8: So it's something as simple as knocking, but you just
Speaker 8: get like this feeling about it.
Speaker 7: It's so weird.
Speaker 8: You can't explain it, but it's like your body knows
Speaker 8: that this is not normal. So I had asked him
Speaker 8: to go camping with me again, and here he was like, oh,
Speaker 8: hell no.
Speaker 5: He was like, no, I'm not going.
Speaker 7: So mine are pretty tame as far as that goes.
Speaker 8: I did take my sister's camping a few weeks ago too,
Speaker 8: and another situation where it was Superior National Forest. I
Speaker 8: used the cluster of sightings to pinpoint somewhere and it's
Speaker 8: like a shot in the dark.
Speaker 7: I like to take people so they.
Speaker 8: Don't think I'm nuts because my whole family that's the
Speaker 8: Bigfoot thing. They're like, oh, yeah, it's the Bigfoot.
Speaker 7: Huh Yeah.
Speaker 8: It's hard not to just word vomit and give them
Speaker 8: everything I know, because then they still think you're nuts.
Speaker 8: But either way, I took them up there and we're
Speaker 8: sitting around the fire. I'm hoping, but obviously I've been
Speaker 8: out there many times hoping and nothing has ever happened, right,
Speaker 8: So it's disappointing. So I'm ready for the disappointment. But
Speaker 8: then we're sitting around the campfire, we're talking about old
Speaker 8: family stuff and then I hear it and I'm like,
Speaker 8: did you guys hear that?
Speaker 7: And they're like yeah.
Speaker 8: I'm like okay, so you sit there around the campfire,
Speaker 8: and we're just listening to it, right, and I decided
Speaker 8: to knock back for the first time. I got this
Speaker 8: cool knocking stick from Abe at the Ohio Bigfoot Conference,
Speaker 8: and I just love the thing. And he showed me
Speaker 8: how to knock against trees and how to pinpoint the
Speaker 8: direction and stuff. So I knock and then I get
Speaker 8: her response back.
Speaker 5: It was super cool.
Speaker 8: That happens a few times. I try to like space
Speaker 8: it out so I don't.
Speaker 7: Make them aware that it's me doing it.
Speaker 8: I don't want to get too excited and oversaturated, so
Speaker 8: I just I probably get a few responses back, and
Speaker 8: I let it be and we just listen.
Speaker 7: So then we end up going to bed.
Speaker 8: The girls are tired and stuff, and I'm sitting there
Speaker 8: and my fiance, yeah, she's pregnant. We're sitting on an
Speaker 8: air mattress. It was a crappy day. We got there
Speaker 8: and it was raining. It was a mess, like scrambling
Speaker 8: getting everything put together and stuff. So we're trying to
Speaker 8: get her to fall asleep, and then all of a
Speaker 8: sudden we hear the sound of it sounded like a
Speaker 8: bag crinkling, like a chip bag crinkling.
Speaker 7: So I'm sitting there and we hear it. I stopped.
Speaker 7: I'm like, did you hear that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 8: And then my sisters are like, Connor, I remember it.
Speaker 8: I was shirtless and I just got out of the tent.
Speaker 7: I turned my lamp on.
Speaker 4: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see we're
Speaker 4: going right back after these messages.
Speaker 8: I'm just looking like the perimeter and stuff. And then
Speaker 8: I started asking the questions, like it was a chip
Speaker 8: bag you heard, and they're like, no, we heard gravel.
Speaker 8: So they heard the gravel shifting towards the entrance of
Speaker 8: camp off of this trail, and I guess that would
Speaker 8: make sense to us. It could sell like a chip
Speaker 8: bag like gravel because all the totes and stuff were
Speaker 8: closed up. They were close in camp, so if something
Speaker 8: came in, I would hear it open the tote, right.
Speaker 8: So they're saying it's gravel. We heard the chip like.
Speaker 8: I was like, okay, that's probably what it was. Something
Speaker 8: was shifting it.
Speaker 7: I go out there. I stoked the.
Speaker 8: Fire just like it keeps some bay or whatever it is,
Speaker 8: could be anything, and I look down the trail.
Speaker 7: I'm shining my.
Speaker 8: Light down there for some reason, all the hair on
Speaker 8: my neck and my arms just stands up, and I
Speaker 8: think this nasty feeling.
Speaker 7: It just felt gross.
Speaker 8: I couldn't explain it up to Maybe I was just
Speaker 8: freaked out and I was just trying to make sure
Speaker 8: everyone was safe.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: My fiance coaxes me back from the tent, come in whatever.
Speaker 8: So I go in there and I lay down and
Speaker 8: I'm like, I fucked up, and she's like why, And
Speaker 8: I was like, because I should have knocked back, and
Speaker 8: she's like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know why you did.
Speaker 8: And I was like, cause it's cool and fun until
Speaker 8: stuff goes down. I have all these girls, and I
Speaker 8: have to be the one to protect them. Right If
Speaker 8: something is coming in, it's on me. So when the
Speaker 8: night's rough, we go to bed with my sisters.
Speaker 7: They leave.
Speaker 8: The next morning, we wake up, the day is miserable.
Speaker 8: The winds come in, it's drizzal, and everyone's cold. They
Speaker 8: don't like camping, so it's already bad. The bugs and
Speaker 8: I look around the fire and I see misery. So
Speaker 8: I don't want to do it, but I'm like, if
Speaker 8: we want to go home, we can go home.
Speaker 7: You know, You're like okay.
Speaker 8: At fifteen minutes, I swear they were just to the car. Luckily,
Speaker 8: my middle sister wanted to stay right like she wanted
Speaker 8: to experience the adventure together.
Speaker 7: We drove all this way. We planned for two months
Speaker 7: to come.
Speaker 8: If she wanted to stay, Oh they're cool. So my
Speaker 8: fiance and two other sisters they went home. My other
Speaker 8: sister and I stayed. It was a pretty uneventful day.
Speaker 8: We just sat around camp and we drank Truly's and
Speaker 8: we were thinking we were cool because everyone else laught
Speaker 8: and we were just hanging in.
Speaker 7: There and it was fun.
Speaker 8: We got the bond, you know. We'd take a nap,
Speaker 8: we'd get back up, and then it's the day is
Speaker 8: oh man, like everyone's gone, Like the fun is over.
Speaker 8: So we're doing things to fill the time, like we
Speaker 8: go kayaking across the lake and whatever, and just waiting
Speaker 8: for night so then we can have a nice fire.
Speaker 8: Like you saved all this woods. We're looking forward to
Speaker 8: listening to the knocking again. So night comes. When we
Speaker 8: were kayaking, there was a campsite that nobody was at.
Speaker 8: They left all this wood, so we loaded wood and
Speaker 8: on the kayaks and brought it back. So you could
Speaker 8: even have a better fire. She's sitting there hacking away,
Speaker 8: trying to split this wood with this dinky little hatchet
Speaker 8: that I have, so she's having to beat it with a.
Speaker 7: Mallet and split this wood.
Speaker 8: She's doing that, and I didn't intend to knock back tonight,
Speaker 8: so I did not, But she's doing that. Then I
Speaker 8: can hear responses. But the difference is it's on our
Speaker 8: side of the lake this time and not the other side.
Speaker 7: So she's doing that.
Speaker 8: She's finally done, and I'm like, okay, thank god one
Speaker 8: because there's other campers and they're probably trying to wind
Speaker 8: down for the night, and too, I didn't really want
Speaker 8: to promote any more visits.
Speaker 5: She's done with that.
Speaker 8: We're at the fire. We do start to hear the
Speaker 8: knocking again. It is definitely on our side. The night prior,
Speaker 8: we had to sit there, closed your eyes, pay attention,
Speaker 8: stop talking. Then you could hear it, right because it
Speaker 8: was at a distances across the lake. This time, it
Speaker 8: was definitely on our side, and you didn't have to
Speaker 8: do that, like you knew it was on our side.
Speaker 7: We weren't too concerned.
Speaker 8: It was just happening. I knew it was on our side.
Speaker 8: I knew that was different than the other night. But
Speaker 8: we go to bed and we both fall asleep because
Speaker 8: we're tired. We're looking forward to packing up in the
Speaker 8: morning and just heading home. There's a miserable trip. But
Speaker 8: then I wake up at three in the morning and
Speaker 8: I'm freezing.
Speaker 7: I'm like, God, really cold tonight.
Speaker 8: I realized one of my dogs took my blankets, so
Speaker 8: then I take the blankets back and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 8: it's not that cold. But then I hear the knocking.
Speaker 8: But the concerning thing is it's very close, like very close.
Speaker 8: It's really hard to describe because I'm over video, but
Speaker 8: basically it was like a triangle, like they were in
Speaker 8: a triangle around us. There was two that were super close,
Speaker 8: the one that was far away, but the one that
Speaker 8: was getting really close. It was getting more erratic with
Speaker 8: a knocking asn't got closer. That was concerning to me.
Speaker 7: I'm laying there.
Speaker 8: And I don't want to get my sister if she's sleeping,
Speaker 8: to freak her out, So I'm just laying there listening
Speaker 8: to the way that I'm thinking about it is if
Speaker 8: I can hear them, I know where they are.
Speaker 7: When they're not knocking.
Speaker 8: That's when I'm concerned because I don't know where they're at.
Speaker 7: So I hear her.
Speaker 8: Rustle, and I'm like, hey, Macie, and like you hear that,
Speaker 8: she's yeah, and like it's getting close.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 7: She's like yeah.
Speaker 8: And I asked her if she wanted to come stay
Speaker 8: in my tent. She's I'll give it like a few
Speaker 8: more minutes. Then she tells me that she's coming in
Speaker 8: my tent. This probably isn't a very manly thing of
Speaker 8: me to say. I don't know if it was adrenaline
Speaker 8: or what, but I was shaken pretty bad as if
Speaker 8: I was freezing, but I wasn't, so I didn't meet
Speaker 8: her outside. She came to my tent, which, hindsight, being
Speaker 8: twenty twenty, I wish I would have got out there,
Speaker 8: but I turned.
Speaker 7: On my lamp. I just didn't want to let her
Speaker 7: know how worked up I was about it.
Speaker 8: But they were close, and it was concerning because they
Speaker 8: were close and they were coming in and like triangulating.
Speaker 8: It was like a military thing. It was just the
Speaker 8: weirdest thing, man. So when we were communicating to each
Speaker 8: other between the tents, there was no knocking, and when
Speaker 8: we got out, came to lights, and there was no knocking.
Speaker 8: But then as soon as she zipped it up, then
Speaker 8: you could tell that they moved to the other campsite.
Speaker 7: They were no longer coming in on us.
Speaker 8: They moved to the next one. So I don't know
Speaker 8: if it was because we all got together, or because
Speaker 8: they realized we were awake, or what, but they.
Speaker 7: Moved on to the next one.
Speaker 8: But they were still really close over there too, so
Speaker 8: I don't know how they didn't hear it. When I
Speaker 8: get back to town and we get over the night
Speaker 8: or whatever, we pack up, I had to pick up
Speaker 8: one of the sisters that left and bring her to
Speaker 8: my house for the night. That's when they spilled the
Speaker 8: beans on their experience that first night, which all makes sense.
Speaker 8: I get home and my fiance said the girls slept
Speaker 8: the entire her way home. To me, that means that
Speaker 8: they are just exhausted. The reason they're exhausted is because
Speaker 8: one I told you they heard the grappl right. But
Speaker 8: then my other sister, she said, she was like, I
Speaker 8: thought it was raining, but then it was only like
Speaker 8: two drops or one drop. She's I think something was
Speaker 8: throwing pebbles at my tent. I didn't tell her that,
Speaker 8: like the pebble thing that they do that.
Speaker 7: So I was like, okay. Then she told me that
Speaker 7: my dog.
Speaker 8: I had the dogs sleeping with them, and she told
Speaker 8: me my dog got up in the middle of the
Speaker 8: night was whining at the window of the tent all night.
Speaker 8: She was trying to get her to lay down, trying
Speaker 8: to get her to relax. She just wouldn't. The thing
Speaker 8: about my dog is she's like a tent princess. We
Speaker 8: go camp and she loves the tent, especially if you're
Speaker 8: in it. She's not leaving until you leave. So to me,
Speaker 8: that was super abnormal. I did hear the whining too,
Speaker 8: but I thought maybe it's because she wanted me or
Speaker 8: because she wanted to go outside. How I try to
Speaker 8: look at things, I look at all these little events.
Speaker 8: They add up to something. If it was a one off,
Speaker 8: but maybe, But with everything that happened, it gives me
Speaker 8: to some kind of a conclusion something was happening. Another
Speaker 8: thing is the sister that was sleeping in the same
Speaker 8: tent as her. She told me that she heard this
Speaker 8: heavy breathing and I didn't tell her that either. I
Speaker 8: don't think that even came up because it's a weird
Speaker 8: thing to talk about. But when people have these encounters,
Speaker 8: whether they're outside their tent, outside their RV, just beyond
Speaker 8: the view of the woodline or whatever, they hear like
Speaker 8: this heavy, labored breathing. That's all I've experienced. It was
Speaker 8: a very interesting weekend.
Speaker 4: It definitely sounds like it. It looks like Abe has
Speaker 4: joined us. Let me add him in.
Speaker 7: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Man? No, I ain't for my lateness, but you know,
Speaker 5: I like to make an entrance sometimes. I like to
Speaker 5: slip writing the things you have.
Speaker 4: Been known to slip into and out of a few things. Actually,
Speaker 4: I've actually seen both of those things, and you got
Speaker 4: to see.
Speaker 5: All of that. Oh my god, I'm doing good. Hey guys,
Speaker 5: how you doing.
Speaker 3: Hell, I had some personal things to take care I
Speaker 3: didn't forget, and I got to see you guys as
Speaker 3: soon as possible.
Speaker 5: Again, my apologies.
Speaker 7: It's good.
Speaker 4: Michael and Connor have been regaling me with their experiences.
Speaker 4: So Abe, welcome to the show, man.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 4: Let's start with where I start with everybody pretty much
Speaker 4: where they come on the show. What got you interested
Speaker 4: in the subject of Bigfoot? To begin with.
Speaker 7: Actually it was.
Speaker 3: The girl is that Colombo would do here in Saint
Speaker 3: Paul Mi Andnsota. As a young child, my parents would
Speaker 3: take me there. I'd be so fascinated, awestruck with the
Speaker 3: girls only looked and all very humanoid they were. I
Speaker 3: could stay there and watch them for hours.
Speaker 5: When mom and dad wanted to go.
Speaker 3: To a different part, they related to me or told
Speaker 3: me that I would just throw a fit and have
Speaker 3: a tantrum because I wanted to stay right there and
Speaker 3: wash them. Even tell the day the grillas are there,
Speaker 3: I can at least stay there for a fower, just
Speaker 3: wash them. It's like something when you look into their eyes.
Speaker 3: There's intelligence behind them. Regions are still so fascinating, and
Speaker 3: he was still the state, So I guess you.
Speaker 5: Can say great apes or primates got me into all
Speaker 5: of this.
Speaker 3: And then growing up, I hear about the occasional fish
Speaker 3: sighting or report that's coming in through the radio.
Speaker 5: The newspaper, across the news, like, what's the heck on?
Speaker 5: What is this? Oh it's just a big gorilla? Okay, cool? Great.
Speaker 3: I go to school the public libraries. I looked for
Speaker 3: big book books and stuff like that. I remember picking
Speaker 3: up a book. I don't know whose book, but I
Speaker 3: remember summing through it. I'd seen Daddy from the Patterson
Speaker 3: Given film in black and white. It did something to me.
Speaker 3: I really burned something in my memory where.
Speaker 5: It's a fit of gotomy.
Speaker 3: I'll like scared, but it's upright walking Gorilla and that
Speaker 3: frame three fifty two, I think it is talking.
Speaker 5: Like that and looking back at Roger, that's the one
Speaker 5: that I seen you.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh. Looking into books and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Big Disney had a special on Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're recalling that in the eighties,
Speaker 3: but they had a Sunday or Saturday Morning special about
Speaker 3: things when the time goes on to grow up and
Speaker 3: ado lessons. It wasn't until the late nineties where things
Speaker 3: were still going on started popping like ninety five and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. I looked in a little bit more
Speaker 3: or any things and reading everything I could. I think
Speaker 3: b R was established in the ninety five, but just
Speaker 3: hearing more and more about it in the late nineties
Speaker 3: really took a look into it and it stucks me in.
Speaker 3: I started doing as much reading, getting BookSmart as much
Speaker 3: as I could. Then established the Minnesota Big Book we
Speaker 3: started came in two thousands. For the past twenty four years,
Speaker 3: adding a few to the fire, meeting great people, having
Speaker 3: a great commoraty, having a great time out in the woods,
Speaker 3: to a point where the team members are our family mem.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about some of those ups and downs, and
Speaker 4: more importantly, the experiences that you've had with these things
Speaker 4: when you've been out in the woods looking for them.
Speaker 3: On a very first expedition, I've been chased or bluff
Speaker 3: charged by one. I didn't see it, but my blood
Speaker 3: brother was the next team member. He got to see that.
Speaker 5: For it was our very first expedition back in two
Speaker 5: thousand and one in Ohio.
Speaker 3: We went to a while because there's more things happening
Speaker 3: than their name minute then there was in Minnesota.
Speaker 5: So we go out there.
Speaker 3: We spent about seven or eight days out there. We
Speaker 3: find ourselves in the Krissocky Call, which is a colleague
Speaker 3: that is another Sasquatch triangle out there was in Cassockton
Speaker 3: Meschino Man Guerney's it come. So we were in the
Speaker 3: Corsocking County in an area called Wilve's Creek. We go
Speaker 3: to the general store that's there in Wills Creek. At
Speaker 3: the time, we's on oh.
Speaker 5: Y'ah and what we're doing.
Speaker 3: They say, have you heard of Sasquatch? No, so they
Speaker 3: get a map out and tell us how to get there.
Speaker 3: We get to the area called Wolves and we pulled in.
Speaker 3: We're facing the creek in the parks attire. We had
Speaker 3: to walk down. We done about fifteen to seventy five
Speaker 3: yards away from the car. That's where we and one
Speaker 3: of the team members snapped and we're like, whoa, it
Speaker 3: was either them or three BM broke.
Speaker 5: We hear the five feet of footprints.
Speaker 3: We're freaked out. This is Surrealoo. I'm twenty two years old.
Speaker 3: Think I was ready for this, but no, wait, fully
Speaker 3: went behind the ears. We're hearing the five beautifootprints. We
Speaker 3: started running back towards. I'm running towards the corner.
Speaker 5: I have a polaroid camera wrapped around my neck.
Speaker 3: I had stopped and thinking, okay, there did waiting for
Speaker 3: this thing to come on and take part of the woods.
Speaker 5: I'm slipping and open.
Speaker 3: I'm focusing on these footprints get louder, indicating has been closed.
Speaker 3: As soon as I do that, my glove brother Bill
Speaker 3: have a higher point of you still up by the car.
Speaker 5: He says, he what are you doing?
Speaker 3: The things right behind you? I look at him. His answers,
Speaker 3: whitest officers, I'm still hearing this creature, and then these
Speaker 3: book prints getting louder and closer. I'm getting three does
Speaker 3: I closed the Polari camera.
Speaker 5: He goes, hey, what are you doing? The things right
Speaker 5: behind you? Get going?
Speaker 3: I closed the Polary camera and I started running back
Speaker 3: to his pretty much catching up with the other guy
Speaker 3: who did not stop. So we get to the car,
Speaker 3: don't hope we don't in, and we open the door,
Speaker 3: but we're in the car. That's what That's what I remember,
Speaker 3: is being in the car. What was they were to go?
Speaker 3: Giving him with twenty of the questions, basically, he said
Speaker 3: it was seven and a half eat tall, reddish brown
Speaker 3: in color. What he was doing, he says, was one
Speaker 3: I from three to three getting really right up box
Speaker 3: and everything was dead and quiet, like eerie science.
Speaker 5: We're looking.
Speaker 9: He had the church started by the time we got there,
Speaker 9: so he took his eyes whatever from the time that
Speaker 9: I stopped puping up the Flory camera to where I
Speaker 9: started running back, and he had the car ready and started,
Speaker 9: so he took his Honest, we're looking around and you're
Speaker 9: so quiet, we couldn't hear ready, so we got reached out.
Speaker 5: We got back down there. Now, the thing is that
Speaker 5: the substrate, which every step that I took would accumulated
Speaker 5: to the bottom of my boot.
Speaker 3: At that time, I had Dicky's pants on it with
Speaker 3: batteries loaded into my pockets just in case we needed
Speaker 3: them for something.
Speaker 5: No belt on.
Speaker 3: So I'm running through this muck holding my pants up.
Speaker 3: I stept here like wod do with football, running through
Speaker 3: through this one day. It was quite the comical scene,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you. But the thing is we
Speaker 3: weren't so wet behind years and would have gone back there.
Speaker 5: We definitely would have.
Speaker 3: Done some impressions or some impressions of some kind. So
Speaker 3: we was learned from that. However, networking with many researchers
Speaker 3: throughout the years, becoming really good brothers and sisters in research,
Speaker 3: one of them marked the worst he was with the
Speaker 3: old bo advertise he puts on the Ohio Bigfootbronkers.
Speaker 5: I've known him for many years now and he used
Speaker 5: to research in that same area.
Speaker 3: As matter of fact, he's talking with people who lives
Speaker 3: in that same area, what they relate to him and
Speaker 3: what he related.
Speaker 5: To me that there was a least two.
Speaker 3: There was a big black male and a small female
Speaker 3: that's want the size of seven a half tall and
Speaker 3: restaurant color.
Speaker 5: Was it the female not on? No, I did only
Speaker 5: specially maybe we were getting too close to a young one.
Speaker 5: I really couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3: But if that was the case, the female did her
Speaker 3: job and she got away from you and scared us
Speaker 3: right out of the area.
Speaker 5: Kudos to her. If that was the case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one of our very first incidentss Since
Speaker 3: then here in Minnesota, I've.
Speaker 5: Had them come close to me on two other chiens
Speaker 5: rocks throwing bops. Was there this one?
Speaker 3: We wereunning resid based in Research Saint twenty eighteen and
Speaker 3: one of our team members did the Ohio.
Speaker 5: When he did that, we.
Speaker 3: Had cootes signing out to one more areas and then
Speaker 3: on to a left.
Speaker 5: One of our team was so bad he went back
Speaker 5: to a vehicle and sat down, So we were in
Speaker 5: between at least two of them.
Speaker 3: If the R and D responsible for that local as
Speaker 3: they used to been, Perl and I've been flames or following.
Speaker 3: I've been in between two of them that just that, okay,
Speaker 3: a different whitting one. I researched through many other stags too.
Speaker 3: I've been now Arkansas, I've been out to the PNW.
Speaker 3: I watched where.
Speaker 5: Patty watched it in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 3: I was out there for the fiftieth anniversary of the
Speaker 3: Patterson Gillman soone.
Speaker 5: That was amazing.
Speaker 3: As I walk more Caddie walked stepping in herst episode
Speaker 3: and speak, that was the experience I'll ever forget.
Speaker 4: I can only imagine. I want to go back to Michael.
Speaker 4: He mentioned something a little earlier. I wanted to go
Speaker 4: back and touch on then. I don't get a whole
Speaker 4: lot of people experiencing, Michael, Can you talk about the
Speaker 4: experience that you had that you referred to where you
Speaker 4: believe infrasound was used on you. It's something that's always
Speaker 4: fascinating me about these creatures. Can you take us back
Speaker 4: to where you were, what you were doing, what happened
Speaker 4: during the infrasound, What were you hearing, what were you experiencing?
Speaker 4: How did it feel to you when you feel like
Speaker 4: you experienced infrasound?
Speaker 6: Getting back to that prior to that Abe and I
Speaker 6: took the cast of Finding Bigfoot back into the area
Speaker 6: where I hear hunt You did have some action that night,
Speaker 6: But then a couple months later, I went into my
Speaker 6: deer stand opening morning and I was sitting in my deerstand,
Speaker 6: which was only about probably a mile from where we
Speaker 6: did the filming. Sitting in there in the dark, I
Speaker 6: could hear something walking around me, and I started to
Speaker 6: get branches and rocks being thrown into the vicinity of
Speaker 6: my stand where I was sitting, and about daylight that stopped.
Speaker 6: All of a sudden, I felt like I was having
Speaker 6: a heart attack, felt really nauseous. I didn't feel good.
Speaker 6: I finally decided to walk out about half mile away
Speaker 6: to where we had the four wheelers parked. Once I
Speaker 6: got out to that area, I felt fine, I felt great,
Speaker 6: no problem at all. I walked back into the stand again,
Speaker 6: I sat down. I start having anxiety attacks. I never
Speaker 6: have anxiety attacks. That lasted most of the day. When
Speaker 6: I finally walked out of the woods, the anxiety attacks disappeared.
Speaker 6: The next day. Going back in there, there was nothing,
Speaker 6: no rocks, no branches, nothing being thrown at me, no infrasound.
Speaker 6: One other. For instance, on the infrasound, I was back
Speaker 6: into an area about twenty miles to the west. I
Speaker 6: was back in there outing out an area for hunting,
Speaker 6: and I walked in there. All of a sudden, I
Speaker 6: just started panicking. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.
Speaker 6: Here I got a side arm on me, I got
Speaker 6: a revolver, and I have a shotgun. Basically there's nothing
Speaker 6: to be afraid of them armed, but I could not
Speaker 6: get out of that area fast enough. Same thing panicking.
Speaker 6: As soon as I got out of that area, I
Speaker 6: was fine. It was really strange. The second instance, I
Speaker 6: think I got into an area where they were living
Speaker 6: or they wanted me out of that area. The first
Speaker 6: instance with the infrasone off the deerstand, I think they
Speaker 6: were mad at me for bringing these people back into
Speaker 6: that area because I basically grew up with a clan
Speaker 6: of them throughout the years that a lot of things
Speaker 6: happened to me. Back They've been followed in that area
Speaker 6: of tree knocks. I've heard vocalizations, mumble talk. They accept me,
Speaker 6: they let me go in there and hunt, they leave
Speaker 6: me alone. I think they were disappointed that I actually
Speaker 6: broke their trust. And I brought people in there. But yeah,
Speaker 6: that infrasound. I believe it happened to Ade too.
Speaker 5: It was in twenty sixteen when I had something that here.
Speaker 5: I can't say it was infras honor or what to
Speaker 5: be honest.
Speaker 3: With you, but I was in an area where some
Speaker 3: people who do their guide were in. They told me
Speaker 3: about this their bait and how the only way to
Speaker 3: get this bait off of some the.
Speaker 5: Pain was tried to be unpoached. Certainly it was unhoaching.
Speaker 5: Nothing was tore down or anything like that, all or cut.
Speaker 3: So that would lead me and then to believe that
Speaker 3: I hadn't had something to do with hands or something
Speaker 3: like that, and.
Speaker 4: Stay tuned for more sasquat jobasy well right back after
Speaker 4: these messages.
Speaker 3: So I go out there and I'm checking out this
Speaker 3: area and I did got done having dinner and I
Speaker 3: was on my second more or dessert. They were actually
Speaker 3: with me at this time, thank god.
Speaker 5: During my eating that second more.
Speaker 3: Prior to this, I was doing vocals, basings and some
Speaker 3: things by that trying to say hey, I'm here where
Speaker 3: you at basically designed to get some attention and a
Speaker 3: solicitor response. I started to have any effects of a
Speaker 3: panic way up, really wrapping heartbeat.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, something is not right.
Speaker 3: Shouldiers were heavy, arms were heavy, focusing on my breathing.
Speaker 3: I was balanced, disoriented. VA could see that I was
Speaker 3: going in and read something physically.
Speaker 5: They're like, hey, what's why. I almost want to ask everyone.
Speaker 5: I knew what quit and I don't feel right.
Speaker 3: I had open arm surgery and twenty eleven, so for
Speaker 3: something like that to take place out of the blue,
Speaker 3: I was scared to admit that. However, during me going
Speaker 3: through this episode, they heard a couple of different vocalizations
Speaker 3: from across this lake I was on, from two different spots.
Speaker 5: They ended up taking me to the emergency room.
Speaker 3: I was okay, and each I tell you, after maybe
Speaker 3: a couple of hours, so they called the big up.
Speaker 3: I spent the night at their place and them back
Speaker 3: round spot the very next morning.
Speaker 5: Then another team member, the old Sergius, came out and.
Speaker 3: Joined me that day as well, and the back added
Speaker 3: boots on the around walking around looking for any kind
Speaker 3: of study.
Speaker 5: And he can't say for sure that it was in person.
Speaker 5: There was no proof of it.
Speaker 3: However, I did have the effects all what people will
Speaker 3: lead to be in for soule.
Speaker 5: Also, I had the effects of just the standard band attack.
Speaker 3: I talked with other researchers from what they've experienced in
Speaker 3: a group when they had that occurred.
Speaker 5: Seriously, the biggest guy order the group and then it happened.
Speaker 3: I was the biggest guy that was there at order
Speaker 3: than three of us at that time. So if you
Speaker 3: look at that, if it was then I could only
Speaker 3: speculate now where they trying to subdue or get the
Speaker 3: biggest guy under their area.
Speaker 5: So the other two was model.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was about to say they got you out
Speaker 4: of there. You had to go to the yard man
Speaker 4: tree knocks or one tree breaks, all the other evidence
Speaker 4: that people find. But what appears to be in for
Speaker 4: sound that people experience is one of those things that
Speaker 4: has just fascinated me throughout all of my research. One
Speaker 4: of those things that just sticks out to me when
Speaker 4: people say they've experienced that or feel like they've experienced that.
Speaker 4: I certainly like to ask those questions because it's not
Speaker 4: something that happens to everybody. Sometimes it's very isolated. Like
Speaker 4: you said, there's been groups of people you walk three
Speaker 4: or four feet, one person's feeling it or two people
Speaker 4: and then the other four are fine, and then you
Speaker 4: walk another four feet and then it seems to dissipate.
Speaker 4: It's just one of those phenomenons within the phenomenon that
Speaker 4: has always been one of those things that I've always
Speaker 4: been fascinated with. I want to go around the horn
Speaker 4: before we get out of here. Michael, you mentioned earlier
Speaker 4: something about a Facebook group. I want to give everybody
Speaker 4: the opportunity. We've obviously talked about the Minnesota big Foot
Speaker 4: Field Research Team. I want to get into that where
Speaker 4: people can find that. I'm sure Abe will probably want
Speaker 4: to talk about that, but Michael, you mentioned as well
Speaker 4: a Facebook group, So anybody that has anything to plug
Speaker 4: now would be the time to do it. I want
Speaker 4: to go around the horn. If you want to give
Speaker 4: out contact information, the best place for people to find you,
Speaker 4: whether it's Facebook, Michael Fee, you want to start us out.
Speaker 6: Like I said before, we have a Facebook site for
Speaker 6: the Minnesota Bigfoot Research Team, and about seven months ago
Speaker 6: or so, I started a site called Pop's Bigfoot Hunter.
Speaker 6: It's designed to let the average person come in there
Speaker 6: and if they want to talk about their experiences, tell
Speaker 6: stories or whatever, they're more than welcome to do it.
Speaker 6: I don't have too many rules or regulations on the site,
Speaker 6: but if anyone's interested, I have that going, and like
Speaker 6: I say, the Minnesota Bigfoot research site that we all
Speaker 6: have going with ab Connor.
Speaker 7: What about you?
Speaker 4: You got anything?
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I actually have kind of an apparel brand
Speaker 8: that I've been working on for the past year. I'll
Speaker 8: be honest, the kickstarting has been a little slow, just
Speaker 8: with life happening.
Speaker 7: I started it just.
Speaker 8: As a creative outlet and then it became something else.
Speaker 8: So that's called Nocturnal Affairs. We can find the website
Speaker 8: Nocturnalaffairs dot net. I also have an Instagram associated with that,
Speaker 8: It's Nocturnal Affairs Design. Then a Facebook page as well,
Speaker 8: just Nocturnal Affairs. That was something that just always stuck.
Speaker 8: Whenever I'd have our work, I'd label it or tile
Speaker 8: it with Nocturnal Affairs, so it plays into their mischievous
Speaker 8: behavior at night or anything that really goes bumping the night.
Speaker 7: Abe.
Speaker 4: Last, but certainly not least, my friend, what about you, sir?
Speaker 4: You want to add some things about Minnesota Bigfoot? What
Speaker 4: do you gotta plug?
Speaker 3: Man slea Checho Pop's Bigfoot Hunter chuck out Nocturnal Affairs.
Speaker 5: He had a lot of great designs and had apparel.
Speaker 3: That's doos from MNBRC com is what the web page
Speaker 3: is our team member Joel storage Us he's the webmaster,
Speaker 3: web designer and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: We'll be getting that updated as soon as Bottbill overdue.
Speaker 3: Minnesota Bigfoot Research Team on Facebook, Minnesota Bigfoot Research Team
Speaker 3: on YouTube. Check us out Minnesota Bigfoot Conference also a
Speaker 3: Facebook page. We have Minnesota Bigfoot Research Team TV on
Speaker 3: Facebook page. That's where where we all get together. I'll
Speaker 3: throw up a video and that says too long, then
Speaker 3: I'll link it up, throw it up on YouTube and
Speaker 3: linked it up there as well.
Speaker 5: Were yet watch where we're getting the sealed.
Speaker 3: It be researching or interview with people who've had sightings
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Will we have with Minnesota Bigfoot
Speaker 3: Conference coming up October fifth of this year as a
Speaker 3: template lodge and hotel in Grand Rapids, Minnesota. We have
Speaker 3: returning our good friend doctor Jeff Meldrum, who you and
Speaker 3: I just seen back in May. We have Scott Nelson,
Speaker 3: retired Navy crypto linguist, knowing the guy for years. He
Speaker 3: was at the first NBC he's coming back again to
Speaker 3: talk about more language, big full language and things like that.
Speaker 3: We have Lyle Blackburn, usual a ghul teller and also
Speaker 3: has done extensive research in Falk Arkansas, Boggy Creek, Creature,
Speaker 3: the folk Monster again longtime friend as well, and Shane
Speaker 3: Courts And I was.
Speaker 5: Just talking with Shane. I told him Shane it was
Speaker 5: seven years.
Speaker 3: I've had you on m NBRT radio and he was
Speaker 3: remember that for the day as long as I live.
Speaker 3: Pep remembers exactly where he was. But the Shamee course
Speaker 3: and he also runs the Olympic projects with David Ellis
Speaker 3: and Derek Randalls. We had David Ollis come out. He
Speaker 3: plays some audio sounds last year. So it's going to
Speaker 3: be a great pleasure to have Saint Course and come
Speaker 3: out talk about the bigfoot nests but they found and
Speaker 3: all the bigfoots are supposed to be.
Speaker 5: Returning to these nets now come to find out, which
Speaker 5: is really cool. We have a great lineup.
Speaker 3: There's going to be different things activities do from the
Speaker 3: adults and kids and it said a very good family
Speaker 3: already to the event for networking.
Speaker 5: Also, why we do.
Speaker 3: This because just at this last big foot trust going
Speaker 3: re where every year there's people that just kip on
Speaker 3: coming out of the woodwork, the didn't want to get up,
Speaker 3: and they talk.
Speaker 5: And they'll come and post to the side.
Speaker 3: Hand.
Speaker 5: I don't want to say an interesting thing, but I
Speaker 5: worked with the D and R. Here's what's going on.
Speaker 3: You're my new best friend, So I said, come out
Speaker 3: and check out the.
Speaker 5: Minneso Big Conference.
Speaker 3: It's all about getting the education and the awareness that
Speaker 3: these creatures ares here in the land of ten Thousand Lakes,
Speaker 3: where that platform, where that safe, even with that team,
Speaker 3: where you can trust, well, we're not going to make
Speaker 3: fun of you can tell us what you've experienced. We've
Speaker 3: heard a lot of far out there stuff in the
Speaker 3: past twenty four years or forty years that Bobs has
Speaker 3: been doing this too.
Speaker 5: These guys are on.
Speaker 3: The team because we all are serving that same passion
Speaker 3: for the sweet search.
Speaker 5: Where it comes.
Speaker 3: Donald to is all about conservation, preservation and protection, getting
Speaker 3: that education and awareness out there for this creature. That's
Speaker 3: one thing that we want to get out here in Minnesota,
Speaker 3: even more so than one of theirs. Now, that's why
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Big Book Research Team hosts the Minnesota People.
Speaker 4: Sounds like a plan. You guys, go check it out.
Speaker 4: I'd love to come out and do the conference at
Speaker 4: some point in time. It's a trick for me, but
Speaker 4: I'm always willing to go far for friends, my friend.
Speaker 5: I'd love to see you.
Speaker 4: Maybe one day you guys will see me at the
Speaker 4: Minnesota Bigfoot Conference as well. Thank you so much, guys,
Speaker 4: Michael abe connor, it's been a blast you on the show.
Speaker 5: Thank you, buddy.
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