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Speaker 1: Heather kids, It's me mister Kipapasta, and I've got something

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pretty cool to share with you. You may not know it,

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but I do a little streaming on the side, and

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I have a YouTube. My stream friends over at the

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v tuber convention, and we're set to premiere it in

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and of course me, your spooky dad yours truly. Check

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out our website down below in the description. We just

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open up for tickets a couple of days ago. Follow

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our socials for more information, and I hope to see

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you there. And now on to tonight's story. October seventh,

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two thousand and four, Jennifer Friends and Family of Ma

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has promised here copies that the correspondence are received from

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Mark over the course of the last month. For the

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most part of merely copied and pasted them for my

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email application. As you'll read, requested this in hopes that

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you'll better understand why he did what he did. I

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made this page because it's the most efficient way to

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share Mark's emails with all of you. I'm not advertising

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this to anyone, but I do think it'd be wise

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to pass this URL along to anyone who may need

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help with the investigation. As I collect more information from

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various sources, I'll update the page to keep it to

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keep it an accurate record. I have that link at

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the end of the series as well. If you need

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to speak with me, Jen has my number. Thank you

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for your patience, and again, I am profoundly sorry. Eric.

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September sixth, two thousand and four. Eric. Hey man, it's

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Mark from Houston. The Saturday Night Gang feels like a

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long long time ago, doesn't it. I've found your email

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from your website and looks like you're out in La now.

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I remember telling you that you should be out there

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doing the California thing. You still with Connie. I'm in

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Dallas now. Met someone who works in my building. We've

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been seeing each other for like two years now. Well, listen,

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the reason I'm writing you out of blue is because

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I got this newspaper article in the mail. Maybe you

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got one too. It's about Andrew. Remember Drew Travis would

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pick him up most of the time, messy hare sort

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of like a fanboy type. Remember his last name until

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I got this thing, and no, it's really disturbing me.

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Do you know what happened? Do you hear about it already?

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Let me know if you have some time to talk,

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I can call you, or you can call me if

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that works better. I'm gonna see if I can track

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down Travis and Dave. Quick search didn't seem to turn

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up any leads, but maybe maybe they just don't have websites.

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You still talk to them either, let me know. Thanks, Mark,

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September fourth, thousand and four. Eric, Hey, thanks for a

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quick reply. I didn't you mean to sound cryptic in

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my first email. I'm just reluctant. I guess I haven't

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really seen a thought about Andrew since he stopped showing

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up for game night. And that was five years ago.

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That was about the time we all went our own

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way back at nineteen ninety nine. He moved out West,

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I moved up to Dallas, et cetera. And then when

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I got this article in my mailbox, it caught me

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by surprise. Yeah, I'll tryanbscribe the thing for you. I

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wasn't sure if maybe you were the one who sent

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it to me. I'll put it into this email at

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the bottom. I remember him. He was never the kid

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with the idea. He was the kid who agreed with yours.

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So I was to get the joke, usually laughed at

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the longest. That's Andrew in a nutshell. Yeah, that's how

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I remember him. He got He got on my nerves sometimes,

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but damn if he didn't love being part of the gang.

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He'd asked me for some poker chips on card night,

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or borrowed dice from my bag, that sort of thing.

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Whenever we were playing Tecmo Bowl and your Nintendo. He

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always wanted to be on my team. It's ord of

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been fine if he was any good. I haven't heard

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from Travis and Drew in years. It fell off. They

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radar about the same time you do. And I know

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it's made much attempts to stay in touch. It's one

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of those things. It's okay. I wasn't trying to point fingers.

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It happens, you know, But I was hoping that you

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had already heard about Andrew. Like you've gotten a copy

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of the article. I still haven't been able to get

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a number or email from Travis or Dave. What do

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you they know more about this than we do. Andrew

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usually hitch a ride with Travis. Most of the time

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it was on the way home. For Travis. Didn't Andrew

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live with his mom, I like in an apartment and

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his stepdad was like a real estate broker, had that

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one house way out past Highway six. You remember that

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Andrew was scared to death of that house. Oh, here's

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the article. There's a photo of Andrew with it. Looks

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maybe like this driver's license photo. Still have that messy hair.

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Gunman shoots two, kills self in Boise restaurant. Diners at

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the Roadside Breakfast Cafe on Interstate eighty four fled to

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the parking lot in a panic yesterday when a man

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entered and began shooting patrons inside, killing two. The couple,

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John and Lucy Madson, were having lunch when twenty six

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year old Andrew Hughes entered wielding a Smith and Wesson

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ninety five pistol. According to police, witnesses claimed that the

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perpetrator was muttering to himself as he approached the smoking

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section and opened fire into the first occupied booth, fatally

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wounding the Madisons. Soon after he turned the weapon on himself.

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All three were taken by paramedics to Saint Alphonsi's Regional

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Medical Center, where John Madson and the shooter were proclaimed dead.

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but did not survive the night. Police were investigating Hughes's

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work and personal background, but as of this morning, a

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motive for the attack is unknown. If there's more to

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the article, I didn't get it. That's what was torn off.

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The other side is part of a Dillard's ad. It's

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really bothering me. Eric, you know what the hell was

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Drew doing in Boise with a fucking gun? He hung

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out with us for almost two years. I just don't

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get it, and something else is eating at me. I can't.

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I can't figure it out yet. Mark, September ninth, two

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thousand and four. Hey, I know how you feel. It's

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hard to not think of the times that he sat

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next to us at the table, you know, smiling like

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a fool, rolling dice and moving his little pieces around

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the board. He loved Monopoly night, always wagged his tongue

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when he counted money. I think he realized he did that.

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It's impossible to think of him shooting up a diner.

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There's no return address. On the envelope. No, no, the

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postmark'sa Idaho, not California or Texas. That's sure if you're

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already considering this. But it's possible whole thing's fake, some

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sick practical joke mean to mess with your head. You

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can get newsprint paper for yeah, yeah, no, I've considered it.

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I didn't tell you this earlier, but I called up

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Saint Alphonsa's and I asked if they had a patient

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named Andrew Hughes admitted it in the last month. They

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had no record of him. I asked if it would

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show if he's been pronounced DOA. They got transferred to

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Er where they kept paramedic records and info in all das,

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and they have him listed. He showed up on August

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twenty eighth. I had of a gunshot wound the head,

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pronounced dead by er resident at three fourteen pm. I

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asked for contact info, like a phone or an address

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where you might have been living. I get brushed off

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to call the police for that stuff. The hospital wouldn't

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give out personal info, or at least not without some signatures.

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I don't call the police yet. That's probably the next step.

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Glad to hear that you and Connie are doing strong though.

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Sorry to sort of, you know, dump all this on you.

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I just didn't know who else would care to listen.

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I'll write if anything else comes of this. At this point,

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I'm thinking maybe Drew's mom sent it to me. Maybe

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Drew kept track of me when I moved to Dallas,

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had my address I'm listed in the books. I would

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explain the logistics part. I'm overthinking things. Take care Mark.

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Hey again. I know it's late or early, depending on

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how you look at it, but this Andrew thing won't

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go away. I finally realized what's eating at me, and

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I need to spit it out. Do you remember what

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went on just before Andrew stopped showing up for game

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night at your place? I do. He was gone for

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two weeks because he had the house sit for his stepfather.

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Mom and stepdad went on a big vacation every summer

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for like ten days. And Andrew was just expected to

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stay behind. He usually just say to his mom's apartment,

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but that year he was asked to mind that house

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his stepdad owned, the one out in that old rich

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subdivision wes to Houston. Maybe the guy had a bunch

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of houses. I mean, he was big on real estate,

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wasn't he. The guy had inherited this dog from one

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of his clients, somebody who moved out didn't want to

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take the dog with him. I want to say he

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was an Australian shepherd. Do you remember any of this?

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And Andrew talked about it the weekend before. Dog had

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behavioral problems, wind bark, scratched at the door, pissed on

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the carpet, didn't want to be inside, always wanted to

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be outside. Dad kept it in a kennel except when

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it rained. Andrew was supposed to take care of the dog,

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plus a few other things like mo the lawn, you know,

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that sort of crap. But Andrew didn't want to go.

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Dave got into that argument with him about how it

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was the perfect setup for a young bachelor house all

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to yourself, party time, risky business. And Andrew kept saying

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it was too cold there for a party. Too cold.

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I mean, I distinctly remember that, and how he would

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keep asking us to drive out stay with him for

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a while while he was house sitting. I don't think

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anybody went out there, did they? I never did. I

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didn't see him for two saturdays in a row, and

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then Travis picked him up like usual since he was

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back at his mom's place. That's the one night with

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Andrew I remember the most. I bet it's the same

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with you. It was the most bizarre, frustrating night I

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had with the group. Andrew walked in quoting some commercial verbatim.

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I want to say it was a tide ad. Travis

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told us that he was like that in the car

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all the way over commercials, shows, movies, radio songs. First

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couple of hours gaming was like being in the room

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with a TV on. Then he started parroting us. He

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just did copies something we said, you remember, tell me

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you remember this. I could see it in my head

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so clearly. Oh what was What was his response to

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another complaint? Okay, Rue, stop quoting Law and Order episodes,

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Please give the Pontiac commercial arrest dude, shut the fuck

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up and roll your dice. Okay. Then he launched into

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something else a few minutes later. It wasn't just that

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he would regurgitate that crap. It was that he could

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take it so far. Reams of dialogue that he'd somehow

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memorized from one throwaway TV episode lyrics to entire songs.

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It went from odd to funny to disturbing in the

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first hour. Look, I'll come out and say it. Whatever

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happened in those ten days, it changed him. He wasn't

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the same person after that. We all know this. We

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never talked about it, at least not with me around.

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But fuck it if we didn't know instantly that the

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person who came back from that house was not Andrew.

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I wrote before that I hadn't thought about Andrew since

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ninety nine, and that was a lie. The either the

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way your brain sometimes remind you things that you hate

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to dig up, the ones that sour your stomach. I've

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thought about him a few times about that night. Was

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that the start of the madness or whatever it is

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that drove him to shoot up a diner? Were we

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there to see him first lose his grip? Jesus, Eric,

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why the hell didn't we say anything? September tenth, two

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thousand and four, Eric, I woke up to the phone

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ringing this morning. Turned out to be the reporter from

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the Idaho Statesman. She finally called me back to tell

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you I called the track down the source of the article,

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but she didn't have any new developments in the story.

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But will continue to follow up with the police. I

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asked if she had any other details about the crime,

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stuff that didn't find its way into the article. We

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sort of went over her notes most of it I

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already knew. There was one piece of info that caught

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my attention. She wrote the article that Andrew was mumbling

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or muttering to himself when he entered the restaurant, but

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she didn't put in what he was saying. According to witnesses,

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he kept repeating, the door is open. Does that make

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any sense to you? The door is open? Grate me

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back Mark September twelfth, two thousand and four. Eric hasn't

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heard from you, Just writing to let you know that

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I've had a day to put some distance from the

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whole thing, and I've made a decision. I'm want to

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drive down to Houston see if i can find someone

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in Andrew's family. I once to rode with Travis to

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pick Drew up. I think I think I know where

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his mom used to live. From there, maybe I can

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find Stepdad and the house. I've tried the Boise lead already.

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I called the cops, got more questions than answers, and

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now some Lieutenant Perez plans to call me back in

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case he needs more testimony from me, like I know anything.

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Apparently Andrew was living alone in a rental up there,

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working at a Blockbuster video. It's about all I got

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from the cops in Idaho. So ammanning for Houston, even

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driving my own car and a cheap o' motel. It's

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still going to cost me like two hundred dollars for

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the trip. Jenny's worried about me. She'd rather stay and

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pretend the police will figure this out on their own.

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But I have to go down there. You know. Here's

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why I think Andrew was afraid that house for a reason,

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whatever that reason was. During those ten nights, something emptied him,

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you know, gutted Andrew like a fish. He joinked out

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whatever he was inside, or shocked him into forgetting it

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all away. He was hollowed out. To fill the void,

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he absorbed any input that he could find, television, radio, conversation,

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soaked it up and presented it as Andrew. He could

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walk and talk, and he wasn't injured, not physically, but

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he wasn't the same either. There's a gap I need

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to fill in my head, like the time in that house.

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I have these pieces of Andrew that don't match. I

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need something to match. Hell, I'll feel better if something

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will just make sense. I want to ask you to

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fly down and join me, but I could use your

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help all the same. I have some questions that you

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might be able to answer, so please call me or

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send me a note if you know any of these.

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What was the stepfather's name first or last? What was

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his mom's name? What was her last was? It also

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cues what was the name of the subdivision where stepdad's

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house was? I think Andrew mentioned it. I hope I

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haven't freaked throughout too much with crazy talk. I know

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it probably comes off sounding absurd, but all of it,

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or maybe not. You were there for some of this.

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If you really think I'm off my nog and tell

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me by all means, tell me. I hope to hear

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from you soon. Mark Eric, thanks again for calling. I

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got your email as well, and they mentioned a few

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things we didn't discuss over the phone, so I want

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to add at least a comment or two. What I

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remember was what Travis told us at time, that he

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went up to pick up Drew and he had to

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go up to his room to get him. This is

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the last time Drew gamed with us. Travis went upstairs

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to his room and the kid was pacing back and

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forth by his bed. Everything was all neat and tucked in,

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but the carpet was worn in a line where Drew

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was pacing like it's all he did. Yeah, I remember

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this too, and the way Travis told the story like

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he wanted it to sound funny but he didn't believe

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it was. And Dave laughed. He said, man, that dude's

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a broken record, and we all agreed, nodding and chuckling.

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Fuck we we all let it go just at that,

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like it was easier to write him off. But Travis

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was the last one to laugh. He'd seen that room

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with his own eyes. Oh, I really would. But Connie

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got sick last night and she's still throwing up this morning.

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I don't feel right about leaving town or they're like this, Hey,

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that's understandable. You stay there. I'll continue to email you

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on this thing. I can't really talk about Drew with Jenny.

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She never knew him. She doesn't get why it's so

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disturbing outside of the horror that took place in Boise.

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So I keep writing you. Nobody else gets it. Hey,

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maybe I'll somehow find Travis or Dave while I'm in

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town Mark September fourteenth, two thousand and four. Eric made

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it to Houston. The driver's hell, traffic and a persistent

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rattle in the trunk wore me down. The AC unit

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in my motel room sounds like a submerged Kesta engine.

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It'll be hard for me to sleep with it on

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and impossible with it off. Well, at least the whole

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internet access bit works and I'm able to check my email.

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Tomorrow's a long day. I'll be prowling Brasewood and your

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old neighborhood to zero in on an apartment complex, the

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one that I went to once Joy. Wish me luck. Mark,

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September fifteenth, two thousand and four, Eric, great news. I

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have a solid lead. The whole day felt like I

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was pulling a string from the sand, but it pointed

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me in the right direction. These emails are becoming more

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of a journal for me to help me log my progress.

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I hope you don't mind. It took me an hour

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of driving back and forth around the Gesner and Braiswood

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area before I zeroed in on the right side street.

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The leadmarks have all changed. I was like ninety percent

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sure I'd found the right apartment complex, but I was

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still grasping air with no name for Drew's mom and

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no guarantee. Her last name was Hughes. I went to

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the manager's office and I just got lucky. Her name

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is Nancy Hughes, and she stopped paying rent in September

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of nineteen ninety nine. Drew paid it up for the

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rest of the least term, which ended the following February.

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According to the note in the resident file, he paid

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in cash. His mom moved out or just up and

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left one day poof Andrew was living alone in the apartment.

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Then how he was paying for rent with just a

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minimum wage job. I showed the manager of the article

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about Andrew, and then I lied. I said that I

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was a private investigator. I don't know why, maybe just

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to justify a while I was having her dig up

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rental information from five years ago. Anyway, she got off

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on it and kept rooting around in the Hughes file

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for me like a movie sidekick. She found something. It

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was a third party check covered rent for December of

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nineteen ninety eight. Kurt Maloney, thinking this is step Dad,

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the manager photocopied the check for me, and then ten

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minutes later I was calling the phone number printed with

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Kurt's address in the upper left hand corner. No luck disconnected,

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So I took another approach, and I called for one

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one for a local reeltor service. You could do a

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search for contact information for a specific realtor. I remember

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hearing about this from a coworker who had sold his

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place in great Wood. Maloney was listed under a little

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Remax's affiliate office in Katie. I got that number and

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called it there, left a message. Evelyn, the owner called

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me back and said Maloney hadn't worked there in forever.

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He up and vanished, left her with all kinds of issues.

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She thinks that he had financial problems and just bailed

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for Mexico. I find it hard to swallow a theory,

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told me in stage Whisper. But maybe that's just her personality. Still,

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that's two people gone before I thought, maybe Mom just

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moved in with Stepdad. Now I don't know what the

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hell to think. The call went on for half an

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hour as I got to hear the hr nightmare Evelyn

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went through thanks to Kurt's disappearance, halting his benefits, freezing

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the four oh one K plan, surrendering documents to the police, etc.

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I finally broke in and asked her about the house,

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the one out in West Houston that he owned. She

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got very quiet after that. Took me another ten minutes

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to answer her question about who I was. And this time,

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this time I was honest, up front about her. I

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guess paid off because she believed me, releast believed in

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my intentions, and she checked her records. I have the address.

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Eric Kurt had his own home and sugar Land. But

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get this, he was renting a house from a client

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way out west near Pecan Grove Plantation. The paperwork was

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curious since he was supposed to be selling this place,

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but the previous owners had signed off on it multiple

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places like it was no real conflict of interest. She

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didn't know what happened to the house after it was

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seized by the bank. Yes, I'll find out tomorrow when

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I drive out there. I'm close, man, I'm real close.

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September sixteenth, two thousand and four. Holy fuck, I'd read

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calling you five times today, but I got your machine.

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I really need to talk. Call me soon as you can.

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Where do I start. The house is still there. It's

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this generic one story thing, bricks and sighting. It must

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have been built at the same time as the other

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homes in the neighborhood, but it it just looks older.

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The roof is scarred in places. The driveway hasn't held

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up like the others, have cracks in the pavement. A

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plank is missing from the side gate. I rang the doorbell,

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I figured I just talked to the new owner. No

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one answer. Couldn't really hear if it worked or not.

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The blinds of the curtains of the windows kept me

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from peeking inside. There was a dusty pickup truck with

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a warped front fender parked in the driveway. A neighbor

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across the street saw me checking it out, talked to

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me for a while as he watered his shrubs. He

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hasn't met the person who lives in the house now,

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or if anyone is living there really. He remembered Kurt,

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but not by name, just as the guy who stayed

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there for a few months the previous owners. Kurt's clients

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didn't live there much longer. They had all sorts of

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problems with the house, electrical heating, that sort of thing.

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They moved out, left most of their furniture behind. He

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said they packed into a big RV one day and

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they just drove off, and he still remembers their names,

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John and Lucy Manson's Pember eighteenth, two thousand and four. Hey, Eric,

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we're playing phone tag. When you called, I was already

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on the plane, and when I called back, I guess

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you were at the hospital again. I'm really sorry to

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hear about Connie. Any idea what it is? Yet? It's

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food poisoning? Something else? What are the doctors saying? I'm

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in Boise now? Yeah. I nabbed the ticket on a

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short notice. I got in on standby, left my car

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at the George Bush Airport in Houston. Then freaked out

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when I told her, and she got very terse and

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said that I should do but makes me happy? And

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hung up? What makes me happy? Christ? I don't know

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a soul in Idaho. I haven't slept in two days.

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Charging everything onto my visa, no idea how I'm gonna

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pay it off. My watch stopped working yesterday, I got

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this weird ringing in my right ear comes and goes

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in a wing as hell hery, What will make me

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happy closing my eyes and not seeing Andrew staring back

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at me. What are you gonna do once you get there?

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Do you plan on telling the police the mads in connection?

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Do you think the medicines left something in that house

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that drove Drew nuts it killed him for it years later? Seriously,

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this is fucked up. Yeah. I don't know what to

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think right now. It's just it's just a connection. Who

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lived in the same house the Madisons were there for

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four and a half months, who was there for ten days?

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I have no idea what it means. I'll email you

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and I figure something out. Feel like I should pass

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this along to some people like it. There's some help

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out there, bring in the FEDS or something. I don't

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know if anyone else has managed to make the connection

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you did, and it's an important one to the case.

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Can I forward your email and contact info to someone?

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I've been thinking about that right because I was. I

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was gonna ask you to do that for me at first,

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but now I don't think I'll get that kind of

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help I need. Let's face it, there are enough unexplained

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pieces to this thing. I'm gonna get two kinds of interests,

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nuts and skeptics, and I wouldn't mind so much the skeptic,

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except I get this vision in my head of some

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guy calling Jenny, calling my parents, calling my boss at work,

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looking to paint the picture of a guy who lost

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his mind after hearing that his dead friend went nut.

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I really haven't been totally honest with Jenny or my

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supervisor at the office because this is not something you

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can easily explain. I'm calling in sick to work. I

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told Jen that I had to go. I had to

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go to Boise to attend a pseudo wake. I don't

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want that to bite me in the ass while I'm

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looking in Andrew's past. You know, here's what you can

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do for me, though. You can hold on to this

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stuff as evidence or whatever. If something crazy happens and

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I'm in trouble, use this to explain the situation for me.

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Forward emails to my friends or family. Maybe maybe if

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they read them, I'll understand what I'm going through. I

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know you didn't mean to inherit this job. I'm sorry

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to make you do it, but I really appreciate the help.

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Mark in Potato Land, September twentieth, two thousand and four update.

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I called the hospital, the one where Andrew was taken

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back to in August. Asked some point of the questions

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about where Andrew's body went, who picked it up? Did

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a relative or a friend show up? And it was no,

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But he was tagged with John and Lucy, and I

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kept demanding some sort of lead, So the intern gave

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me the names of the relatives who were called to

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confirm the ideas of the Madsons and to arrange for

474
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:20,200
funeral home delivery. John's cousin lives out here, but head

475
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,759
out meet Greg Archer cousin and his wife all right

476
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:28,599
again in the Hotel Mark September twentieth, two thousand and four.

477
00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:35,000
Back that was strange. I met the Archers. I know

478
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,839
what you said last time I called how I need

479
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:39,799
to stop lying because he'll make it harder for me later.

480
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,519
But I wasn't about to tell them I'm a good

481
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:44,720
friend of the guy who killed. Greg's cousin said that

482
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,640
I knew the Madsens when they were in Houston. That's

483
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,119
a burning question about what happened to them, As I claimed,

484
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,839
they practically dropped off the map and they left town.

485
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,599
Hadn't heard from them since Greg did most of the talking.

486
00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:02,599
His wife, Helen was pleasant in that stiff smile way,

487
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,079
but she found ways to interrupt my child with Greg

488
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,160
and reminded him of other things he needed to get done.

489
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,119
The more she did it, the more I encouraged Greg

490
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,160
to keep chatting. The Madsons, as he tells it, had

491
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,599
a long future plan in Houston, John got a transferred

492
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:23,359
to Schlumberger Oil and looked forward to settling down. Then

493
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,359
things started to go wrong after they moved in. Just

494
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,720
little things that piled up. The car kept getting flat tires,

495
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:32,759
Lucy broke her ring finger while fucked in with the dishwasher,

496
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,039
the trouble getting nailed, their phone getting disconnected when they

497
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:37,960
didn't pay the bill for two months, a bill that

498
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,759
they never got, that sort of thing. Finally, something happened.

499
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:46,599
Greg doesn't know what. It was, enough to get them

500
00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:49,240
to put the house on the market, and that same

501
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:52,440
week John sold all his company stock, got it at

502
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,640
his four oh one k, quit his job, put everything

503
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,240
into a big RV. He and Lucy drove off in

504
00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:00,759
their new motor home and they I ever looked back.

505
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:04,359
They'd been driving around the country the last five years.

506
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,119
No mattic. Lucy got pregnant in two thousand and two,

507
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,680
but miscarried. We still kept on the road. Greg thinks

508
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,720
that they they would have just kept driving through Idaho

509
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:16,960
if the RV hadn't broken down with an AC problem.

510
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,160
Greg says John called him up out of the blue

511
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:22,880
asked if he and Lucy could stay over, but Greg

512
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,359
made the guest room up and he and Helen welcomed

513
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,920
them into their home for a week. This was right

514
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:34,359
before the shooting. But here's where it gets stranger. Greg

515
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,960
took me up to the guest room and pointed to

516
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,160
some spots in the carpet right in front of the

517
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,319
closet door, furniture footprints like something had stood there. Greg

518
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:47,400
says it was the dresser, the one against the opposite wall.

519
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,400
They barricaded the closet door for the duration of their stay.

520
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,480
It was the strangest thing. He also noted they kept

521
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,119
the bedroom light on around the clock and bundled up

522
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,599
with the spare set of woolen blankets from the bed.

523
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,519
Found the right way to ask a number of questions.

524
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:04,839
I think he felt a little better talking to me

525
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,000
about it. I'm not his cousin, but I'm someone who

526
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,000
listened to him. And agreed it was bizarre. I left

527
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:16,079
Greg and Helen's not feeling any better. I feel worse now.

528
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:19,039
In fact, I ache the way you're sore right before

529
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:22,920
you get really sick trying to put things together. I

530
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,200
really am. I have to go to the police now,

531
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,400
and I'll go first thing in the morning, I promise. Eric.

532
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:41,400
September twenty one, two thousand and four, Hey, I just

533
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,039
saw this thing on the Discovery Channel, probably a rerun.

534
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:47,920
I bet you can catch it sometime, all about natural

535
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,480
predators and stuff, wild things. I'm up watching TV since

536
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,920
I can't slave anyway. They had this thing on the

537
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,880
venus fly trap, talking about how it lures in the

538
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,480
curious insect to its lip and then these invisible hairs

539
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,400
or something they sense when one of the suckers lands

540
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,920
on it and wham, you know, it swallows the bug

541
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,799
just like that. Later on it spits out the skeleton

542
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:15,920
of the fly and it waits for the next victim.

543
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,359
It's the type of fly trap plants emit this odor

544
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,799
to entice more food, says the voice on the TV.

545
00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:29,279
The fancy name for them is Dionia and usipula. So

546
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:34,440
I wonder if that's all this is there the whole

547
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,720
thing with the shooting in the anomalous article in Houston

548
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:45,119
and the footprints on the carpet. It's all to get

549
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,680
me into the venus fly trap. Only the scent isn't

550
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:53,440
a sweet sap. It's guilt. It's guilty for all those

551
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,440
times that I was around Drew and I didn't do anything,

552
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,480
you know, you know what I mean it. And I'm

553
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,440
flying all over the fucking country and my head's buzzing,

554
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,240
and I think I'm getting close to the truth, but

555
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:10,480
really I'm I'm tickling some invisible hair and the ground

556
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,200
is about to fold up on me and swallow me

557
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:17,720
down to that place where Nancy Hughes and Ken Maloney. Wait,

558
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,160
I'm gonna go take some sleeping pills. Oh, Connie's going better, man.

559
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:31,079
I miss Jen. She's a way of making me feel

560
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,720
like I'm home just by being around her. I'm tired

561
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:43,759
of motels. I'm sorry, Eric, I'm so sorry. Mark September

562
00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:46,240
twenty one, two thousand and four, Eric bing Go. I

563
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:47,759
went to the police, and I asked to talk to

564
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:51,599
Lieutenant Perez. Instead, I got Detective sock Loov said he

565
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,720
was working on the Hughes case. Now I'm more inclined

566
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,680
to think that he was just running interference for Perez

567
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,200
in case I was a wacko. Anyway, I told him

568
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,240
about the Madison co action Andrew to see if that

569
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,119
would help. He said that they look into it. Then

570
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,720
he started with questions about me. I looked for a

571
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:13,119
way to cut the chat short. Police stations make me uncomfortable.

572
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,119
The rest of the tack was rather banal, but at

573
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,480
the end of it, almost off handedly, he asked if

574
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,119
I wanted to sign for Andrew's personal effects, since they

575
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,759
had copies of all the important stuff. I said sure,

576
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,599
even though it made me feel like they've already written

577
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:32,160
off his case. Drew's been busy the last four years, Okay.

578
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,839
He has driver's licenses from Kansas, Colorado, Arizona, California, and Idaho.

579
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:41,240
Looks like he's stayed at friends' homes because none of

580
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,640
the addresses point to the licenses have apartment numbers. His

581
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,160
Idaho license is just two months old and it has

582
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,680
the address of the rental home where he stayed. I'm

583
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,480
going to drop by this afternoon see what happened to

584
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,039
this thing there. Maybe there's a clue on how he

585
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:57,799
knew where to find the madsones or why he shot

586
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,119
him Perez or somebody has done this already. I'm certain,

587
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,519
but I'm not sure. He looked very far. Wish me

588
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:10,880
luck Mark September twenty first, two thousand and four, standing

589
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,400
in front of the house. Now it's the same one,

590
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,319
the Houston house. It's same marks on the roof, same

591
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:23,480
fence damage. September twenty one, two thousand and four. Just

592
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:25,200
talk to the old man across the street. He says,

593
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,359
the house has been here for years, turned it out

594
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:31,440
as far back as he can remember. September twenty one,

595
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:36,279
two thousand and four. I rang the doorbell, no answer.

596
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:42,839
It's exactly the same, Eric, don't I don't understand. September

597
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:45,759
twenty one, two thousand and four. Here's a ringing again.

598
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:48,839
I don't know what to do. How is it the same?

599
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:55,680
September twenty one, two thousand and four. There's a way

600
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:01,480
into the house here. Twenty first, two thousand and four.

601
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:06,720
Where are you pick up the phone? September twenty first,

602
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:13,559
two thousand and four. I'm going inside. September twenty first,

603
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:17,480
two thousand and four. Inside the house, nobody's here. Air

604
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:23,639
is cold, that's like a metal smell. September twenty first,

605
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,719
two thousand and four. I found stairs going up, didn't

606
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,719
see a second story from the street. September twenty first,

607
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,800
two thousand and four. Did you call the signal cuts

608
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,559
off three bars? That no bars? I'm looking for more

609
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,679
Drew's stuff here. Layouts really bizarre. There's like a lot

610
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:46,880
of rooms. September twenty one, two thousand and four. Dorothy

611
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,360
and the hall made of metal. Checking other rooms instead.

612
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,760
September twenty first, two thousand and four. I found something

613
00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:00,239
Drew's backpack getting out of here now. September twenty f first,

614
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:05,039
two thousand and four. I think someone's here. I just

615
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:12,920
heard something. September twenty first, two thousand and four. The

616
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:22,079
door is open. September twenty seventh, two thousand and four. Hello, Eric,

617
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:27,199
this is Jennifer. I'm on Mark SPC. Now I did

618
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,599
like you suggested. I've looked through his outbox. I didn't

619
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:33,360
see any emails about this to anyone else. There aren't

620
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,639
that many. Really, he didn't tell me a lot of

621
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,599
this stuff, Eric, Like now I'm reading the last thing

622
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:42,639
he sent you back on the thirteenth. I didn't know

623
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,280
he was so emotional why didn't he tell me about this?

624
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:49,679
But anyway, like you said, he wrote to you from

625
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,800
his laptop when he was in Houston and Boise and

626
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,599
the police up there said they found that in his

627
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:58,719
hotel room and they're taking their own sweet time checking

628
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,679
it out for clues. So yeah, I'll keep asking for

629
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,480
that to be sent down. Where else should I look?

630
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,000
I don't know what else to do here except wait

631
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:10,119
until you come down and look at it. He does

632
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:12,840
have aim, but I can't tell where the chat logs

633
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,639
would be saved or anything if he's done that, So

634
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:17,519
please tell me what else I can do. You know

635
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:20,480
more about what he's up to than anyone else because

636
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,400
of this old friend the two of you had who

637
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,199
went crazy, and now now Mark's missing for almost a week.

638
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,440
Please send me the other emails he sent you. Please,

639
00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:40,559
I want to know now. Jen Oclober first, two thousand

640
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:49,559
and four, undeliverable mail, unknown user. Original message as follows.

641
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,400
Human arm and leg bones found on street. Scottsdale resident

642
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,719
got a shock at the side of their morning commute

643
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,639
when they found what seemed to be human bones lying

644
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,000
on the road on Sage Drive. Crime scene technicians arrived

645
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,239
within half an hour, to begin the sweep for the

646
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,280
search for more evidence that might help identify this human

647
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,400
victim or at least establish an approximate time of death.

648
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,480
Police spokesman Daniel Swift that bone evidence alone isn't usually

649
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:20,079
enough to determine identity or even cause of death. These

650
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:23,119
remains don't just appear in the road, they were moved here,

651
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:26,360
Swift said. Therefore, we were asking witnesses to contact the

652
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,920
police with information that might pertain to what happened. No

653
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:33,519
other evidence was found along Sage Street or in yards

654
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:36,920
of neighboring homes. More on the story as it develops.

655
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:46,280
Whoever you are, whatever you are, fuck you. I may

656
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,280
not know you, but I can tell what this is.

657
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,400
And I'm not fooled. Your venus fly trap game won't work.

658
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,840
I'll make damn sure to warn Jenny and others too.

659
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,199
So nice try, but no one's falling for your bait

660
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:09,599
this time. It's stops here. Hey, they're kids, it's me

661
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,440
mister keepepasta. And before we say goodnight, I just wanted

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