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<v Speaker 3>Hey there, I'm Samantha and it's now time for Rainbow

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<v Speaker 3>Crimes and hopefully some Unicorn justice.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey guys, I hope you're all well. I'm pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>I sprained my wrists a couple of weeks ago and

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<v Speaker 4>it's starting to hurt more, but otherwise I'm good. I

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<v Speaker 4>still can't believe how the days have flown by and

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<v Speaker 4>I've only done a portion of what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 4>I got Jack to the beach a couple times since

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<v Speaker 4>the kids have been gone, but I'm hoping to get

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<v Speaker 4>him there at least one more time before they get back.

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<v Speaker 4>To get back in just four days, so I guess

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see how it goes Jack sure loves the beach,

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<v Speaker 4>especially when he can go to a section nobody else

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<v Speaker 4>is at and he can run on the sand off leash.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a very cute little beach boy. A huge welcome

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<v Speaker 4>excited to have you join us on our end of

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<v Speaker 4>the month Unicorn Ride with our Patreon exclusive extra episode.

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<v Speaker 4>The unicorn you will be riding has golden and red hues.

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<v Speaker 4>We call him Dynamite, and he is gorgeous and pretty

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<v Speaker 4>darn fast. You rock, Lamb ninety. My friend in Rainbow

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<v Speaker 4>Warrior Susie, sent me an article that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>share with you guys. The article says, the police are

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<v Speaker 4>now saying if you see a dog locked in a

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<v Speaker 4>car in hot weather, take a picture of the dog

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<v Speaker 4>and the car. If someone's with you, get them to

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<v Speaker 4>bring up their weather app and your area on their phone,

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<v Speaker 4>then they can screenshot it. But you don't necessarily need

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<v Speaker 4>somebody with you to do that. You can bring up

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<v Speaker 4>your own weather app and screenshot it. And then the

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<v Speaker 4>article says, in extreme heat, break the car window and

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<v Speaker 4>that way you can free the animal. And this way

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<v Speaker 4>with all the evidence you have backing and supporting you,

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<v Speaker 4>you should not be charged with criminal damage. Plus it

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<v Speaker 4>gives police photo evidence to take the dog owners to court.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is super important, especially if you love

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<v Speaker 4>animals the way I do. And the same would go

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<v Speaker 4>for a small child. If you see a small child

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<v Speaker 4>stuck on a car and the heat, take some photo

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<v Speaker 4>evidence to protect yourself and then break the damn window

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<v Speaker 4>to get the kid out heat. In some places, like

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<v Speaker 4>when I lived in Sacramento, it is no joke. It

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<v Speaker 4>gets so hot triple digits. I know Sacramento is not

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<v Speaker 4>the only place that gets hot. This goes for the

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<v Speaker 4>United States. I'm not sure about the laws and the

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<v Speaker 4>that because I think it's important since summer's upon us.

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<v Speaker 4>I would also like to include a missing but not

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<v Speaker 4>forgotten LGBTQ person this minisode. Twenty one year old Luca

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<v Speaker 4>Phoenix went missing from Evansville, Indiana, on June fourteenth of

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<v Speaker 4>this year. Luca is a train man. He's Caucasian, stands

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<v Speaker 4>five six and weighs about one hundred and forty five pounds.

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<v Speaker 4>He has brown hair and hazel eyes. I saw a

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<v Speaker 4>missing person's post on Facebook made by the evans Fell Police. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>apparently the original post showed the most recent picture of

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<v Speaker 4>Luca where he presents as a man, but they posted

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<v Speaker 4>his dead name and they identified him as a woman.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and the comments, guys, some of them were just

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<v Speaker 4>terribly mean, although there were quite a few that defended Luca.

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<v Speaker 4>Bottom line is he's someone's son, maybe a brother or

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<v Speaker 4>to be found. Now. I'm gonna post the picture of

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<v Speaker 4>Luca included in this episode's posts. Should you see Luca,

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<v Speaker 4>please call Detective Low at eight one two four three

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<v Speaker 4>six four h one two. So I have a question

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<v Speaker 4>for you all. Have you ever been in a situation

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<v Speaker 4>where you're in a romantic partnership but your lover's family,

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<v Speaker 4>or more accurately, your lover's parents, absolutely loathe you. I

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<v Speaker 4>haven't as far as I know, But I did have

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<v Speaker 4>a partner that my parents hated. They loved me still,

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<v Speaker 4>but they felt that the woman I was with was

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<v Speaker 4>a gold digger and she was toxic. Hey, what do

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<v Speaker 4>you know? They were right? I mean, my parents weren't

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<v Speaker 4>confrontational with her, not really, unless like with my mom.

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<v Speaker 4>When my partner cussed my mom out over something completely stupid,

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<v Speaker 4>my mom maintained her position and stood up for herself.

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<v Speaker 4>But gratefully, my parents would have never expressed any kind

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<v Speaker 4>of violence towards any one I brought home. The minisode

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<v Speaker 4>I have for you this time is one of a

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<v Speaker 4>father's love for his daughter. Or maybe it's a father's

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<v Speaker 4>fight to control his daughter and the actions from him

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<v Speaker 4>result in a devastating tragedy. Let's get into it. Twenty

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<v Speaker 4>one year old Courtney Bright got together with her twenty

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<v Speaker 4>year old girlfriend Ashley Done in two thousand and seven

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<v Speaker 4>in Florida. As a couple, they lived a transient lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 4>no consistent place to call home, and they never knew

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<v Speaker 4>when they'd get their next meal. All of this was

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<v Speaker 4>riddled with drug abuse, so you can add never knowing

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<v Speaker 4>when they'd get their next fixed to the list as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But aside from their life struggles, Courtney and Ashley were

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much inseparable and they were very much in love

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<v Speaker 4>with one another. Both of these women were kind, sweet

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<v Speaker 4>and caring. They both tried to help others out when

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<v Speaker 4>they could. But addiction is a cold heartless bitch. It

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<v Speaker 4>can be consuming. It can take over a good kind

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<v Speaker 4>person's life and a heartbeat. Addiction was tearing away at

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<v Speaker 4>the foundation of these girls' lives. And it didn't help

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<v Speaker 4>that Ashley's father, forty year old Jerry Lee Seeger, was

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<v Speaker 4>mortified that his daughter was in a lesbian relationship. Jerry

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<v Speaker 4>seed over this fact. His daughter was not a lesbian.

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<v Speaker 4>He was certain this Courtney girl used manipulation and flat

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<v Speaker 4>out lies to coerce his daughter into this deviant lifestyle

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<v Speaker 4>for the past three years. Yep, it was all Courtney's fault.

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<v Speaker 4>In April of twenty ten, at the age of twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>Ashley was accused and arrested for stealing a necklace that

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<v Speaker 4>belonged to her girlfriend, Courtney's grandmother. Remember, these girls were atticts,

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<v Speaker 4>and the addiction will cause addics to look anywhere they

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<v Speaker 4>can to get something of work to help them score

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<v Speaker 4>more drugs. When Ashley's dad, Jerry found out that she

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<v Speaker 4>was arrested, he was enraged, and of course he blamed

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<v Speaker 4>Courtney for this happening to his daughter. Jerry also seemed

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<v Speaker 4>to have a little addiction of his own to alcohol.

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<v Speaker 4>He got heavily intoxicated after Ashley was booked into jail.

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<v Speaker 4>Witnesses around him said Jerry was saying how he wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to kill Courtney because she was the one who got

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<v Speaker 4>Ashley into this mess. On April twentieth, twenty ten, Jerry

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<v Speaker 4>drove to Lakeland, Florida, to hunt down Courtney. He found

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<v Speaker 4>her and he told her he'd give her a ride

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<v Speaker 4>to go see Ashley, who was in the Polk County jail. However,

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<v Speaker 4>there seemed to be another person in the mix, a

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<v Speaker 4>guy named Rabond Strain. I'm not one hundred percent sure,

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<v Speaker 4>but I believe he was an acquaintance of Courtney's and

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<v Speaker 4>he also got into Jerry's Ford Explorer. Soon on the ride,

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<v Speaker 4>the conversation turned into a discussion between Jerry and Courtney

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<v Speaker 4>about Ashley. Rabon could see Jerry becoming visibly furious. He

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<v Speaker 4>was grinding his teeth and he had a death grip

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<v Speaker 4>on the steering wheel. The more Courtney talked, Finally, Rabond

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<v Speaker 4>spoke up and he asked to be dropped at a

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<v Speaker 4>friend's house in Lakeland. In his mind, he was hoping

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<v Speaker 4>to diffuse the situation and get Courtney to leave Jerry's

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<v Speaker 4>vehicle with him. When Jerry pulled to the curb of

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<v Speaker 4>Rabond's friend. Rabon got out of the suv and Jerry

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<v Speaker 4>sped away before Rabond could get Courtney out of Jerry's car.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry drove around and he found a home in Lakeland

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<v Speaker 4>that had a foreclosure sign on it. He busted in,

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<v Speaker 4>taking Courtney along with him. At some point in the house,

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<v Speaker 4>Courtney became completely naked. I can't find details on how

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<v Speaker 4>or why, but I do know she was not sexually

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<v Speaker 4>assaulted by Jerry according to records, so her being naked

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<v Speaker 4>really kind of perplexes me. Jerry took a T shirt

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<v Speaker 4>that he used to strangle Courtney to death. He then

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<v Speaker 4>shoved her body into a closet in the foreclosed home

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<v Speaker 4>before leaving the scene. The morning of Thursday, April twenty second,

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<v Speaker 4>a realtor was showing the foreclosed home to a couple

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<v Speaker 4>when they came upon Courtney's dead body in one of

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<v Speaker 4>the closets. I'm fairly confident that the couple did not

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<v Speaker 4>purchase that home. I can't even fathom looking at a home,

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<v Speaker 4>or being a rialat, or showing a home where a

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<v Speaker 4>person's remains are found by them. I don't mind purchasing

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<v Speaker 4>a home where somebody has passed away in it, but

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<v Speaker 4>a home where a violent death occurred that definitely give

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<v Speaker 4>me pause. On April twenty four, twenty ten, Jerry was

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<v Speaker 4>arrested in charged for the murder of Courtney Bright. This

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<v Speaker 4>was after detectives discovered Jerry had previously spoke of killing Courtney. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>there was some of Jerry's DNA found on the T

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<v Speaker 4>shirt that was used to strangle Courtney that was left

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<v Speaker 4>behind in the foreclothes house. Jerry was denied bond and

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<v Speaker 4>he remained incarcerated in the Polk County jail same Jael

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<v Speaker 4>as his daughter. While awaiting his trial, Jerry was a talker.

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<v Speaker 4>He talked to a couple of other inmates. One was

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<v Speaker 4>a guy named Joy Ellis and another was named Lafayette Richardson.

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<v Speaker 4>He offered each of them at different times, twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars to kill Rabond. Strain remember him the guy Jerry

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<v Speaker 4>picked up when he picked up Courtney for her last ride.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry knew Rabond was out there still and would probably

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<v Speaker 4>testify against them, but instead of going for the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars, Joy and Lafayette became Jel house snitches and

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<v Speaker 4>they turned on Jerry. At Jerry's trial in twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 4>the prosecutors pushed hard for this to be an open

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<v Speaker 4>and shutcase a first degree murder. They presented a strong

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<v Speaker 4>case of intent that Jerry hated his daughter being in

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<v Speaker 4>a lesbian relationship with Courtney. They presented witnesses, first with

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<v Speaker 4>the witness whom Jerry told he wanted Courtney dead, and

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<v Speaker 4>then with Rabond Strayne, who articulated Jerry's behavior the night

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<v Speaker 4>he and Courtney got into Jerry's vehicle. Rabond told of

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<v Speaker 4>how Jerry seemed drunk with intense anger as he quickly

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<v Speaker 4>drove away after dropping Rabon off so he could be

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<v Speaker 4>all alone with Courtney. However, Jerry's defense tried to debunk

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<v Speaker 4>the prosecution star witness. They turned Rabond's story around, and

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<v Speaker 4>they argued Rabon was actually Courtney's killer and that he

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<v Speaker 4>fabricated the story of Jerry to take any suspicion off

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<v Speaker 4>of himself, which I find extremely odd, especially since next

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<v Speaker 4>the prosecution presented the Jel House snitches, who both testified

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<v Speaker 4>that Jerry tried to hire them to kill raband to

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<v Speaker 4>keep him from testifying. When it was all said and done,

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<v Speaker 4>it was up to the jury to decide Jerry's fate.

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<v Speaker 4>The jury found Jerry Lee's Seeger guilty but not a

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<v Speaker 4>first degree murder after the defense aggressively argued the prosecution

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<v Speaker 4>star witness had ties to Courtney's murder that put a

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<v Speaker 4>huge shadow of doubt on Jerry's case, so the jury

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<v Speaker 4>agreed to find Jerry guilty of second degree murder, feeling

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<v Speaker 4>that alcohol intoxication in the passion he felt for his

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<v Speaker 4>daughter being in the predicament she was in, was the

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<v Speaker 4>cause for Courtney's murder and the act wasn't necessarily premeditated,

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<v Speaker 4>but more of a crime of passion. Jerry was sentenced

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<v Speaker 4>to life in prison without the possibility of parole, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's because parole for capital punishment was abolished in the

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<v Speaker 4>state of Florida in nineteen eighty three. Jerry has since

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<v Speaker 4>made several appeals that have all been denied. What really

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<v Speaker 4>gets me is that a parent would try to control

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<v Speaker 4>their adult child's love life by murdering their partner, especially

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<v Speaker 4>a partner who makes their child happy. Ashley was old

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<v Speaker 4>enough at the age of twenty to make decisions for herself,

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<v Speaker 4>even if they weren't the greatest decisions. I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're a parent and you don't approve of your

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<v Speaker 4>adult child's partner, you gotta suck it up. If you

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<v Speaker 4>want any relationship with your child. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 4>like the partner, but you also don't have to be

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit about it if it's the person your

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<v Speaker 4>child loves and wants to be with. If you think

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<v Speaker 4>the partner is toxic to your child, have real life

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<v Speaker 4>discussions with your kid and tell them to be careful

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<v Speaker 4>and the choices they make. I find when you threaten

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<v Speaker 4>your kid or their partner, you're just striving a big

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<v Speaker 4>wedge between you and your child, but killing your child's love.

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<v Speaker 4>That just low down, evil, rest and power, Courtney. As

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<v Speaker 4>you probably know by now, I can't leave you without

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of sunshine. Since we're in Florida. In

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<v Speaker 4>Fort Lauderdale, Florida, the Stonewall Museum recreated the Stonewall Riots

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<v Speaker 4>of yesteryear that happened in New York City. That would

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<v Speaker 4>have been a fun historical event to attend. Unfortunately, that's

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<v Speaker 4>all the good news I really have to report. So

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<v Speaker 4>here's a few jokes. Let's go ahead and start with

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<v Speaker 4>the old dinosaur jokes. What do you call a gay

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<v Speaker 4>dinosaur a megasaur ass? What do you call a lesbian

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<v Speaker 4>dinosaur a lick alotopus? What do you call a transgender

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<v Speaker 4>dinosaur a trannysaurus rex. What's the name of the latest

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<v Speaker 4>gays sitcom on television? Believe it it's Beaver, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>a very popular show with lesbians. Why are most politicians

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<v Speaker 4>in the closet are gay? Because they can only mandate

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<v Speaker 4>too deer walk out of a gay bar. One of

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<v Speaker 4>them turns to the other and says, can't believe I

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<v Speaker 4>blew forty bucks in there. And lastly, what do you

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<v Speaker 4>call a gay Jamaican man? Pokemon? I love you guys,

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<v Speaker 4>you matter so much. Remember it's not a crime to

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<v Speaker 4>be gay or live your truth, unless you're a murderer.