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Speaker 3: A Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share
Speaker 3: their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, and welcome to the podcast. How are you
Speaker 2: all this week? I hope you're all ready for the holidays.
Speaker 2: I'm Nick Canter and you're listening to the UFO Chronicles podcast.
Speaker 2: This even we have the pleasure of hosting Scratch from
Speaker 2: South Carolina and here be sharing experiences of UFOs and
Speaker 2: the paranormal, recounting encounters with various ghosts and apparitions, visits
Speaker 2: by the Tommy Knockers, and the mysterious sighting of what's
Speaker 2: known as the Little People during a camping trip in
Speaker 2: the woods. Scratch is up next, but first, if you
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Speaker 2: Any help is very much appreciated. Now on with the show. Hello, Scratch,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast, so thank you, thank you. Good
Speaker 2: to have you with us today. And you're calling from
Speaker 2: South Carolina in the US.
Speaker 1: That's correct, wonderful part of the world.
Speaker 2: Okay, now, Scratch, you have some experiences you're going to
Speaker 2: be sharing. Would you like to start at the beginning, please, sir, Well, certainly.
Speaker 1: I'm from South Carolina. I grew up very close to
Speaker 1: Clinton University. If there anyone out there who knows where
Speaker 1: that is, I lived there for a good portion of
Speaker 1: my life. I moved to Atlanta, Georgia for about three
Speaker 1: years when I was in my middle twenties, and then
Speaker 1: as I got older, I came back to South Carolina.
Speaker 1: What we're gonna be talking about tonight basically my UFO experiences.
Speaker 1: Growing up in the middle of a forest. I grew
Speaker 1: up in the middle of one hundred acre forest, which
Speaker 1: is rather large. My whole life, we'd always had strange
Speaker 1: occurrences around around the household. My mother grew up in
Speaker 1: the same area where I grew up at when she
Speaker 1: was in her in her youth, and we'd always seen
Speaker 1: some just really does things, just stuff that would be
Speaker 1: out of the ordinary. That there was no science, there
Speaker 1: was no Internet, There was only like a television show
Speaker 1: or two hopping The name in search of was about
Speaker 1: the only thing that you would see that had anything.
Speaker 1: You were remotely close to what I was experiencing, and
Speaker 1: my parents were experiencing. We would see unusual lights in
Speaker 1: the sky. Not satellites, but lights that were closer that
Speaker 1: moved very quickly, and they moved way too fast to
Speaker 1: be airplanes. This was long before the internet. This was
Speaker 1: in the seventies. Back in those days, if you mentioned
Speaker 1: that you saw UFO, you'd be branded as nuts, you
Speaker 1: were a lunatic, there was something wrong with you. You needed
Speaker 1: medication or talk therapy. So we kept it to ourselves.
Speaker 1: I'm in my late fifties now and I'm just now
Speaker 1: starting to talk about it. This is, in fact, my
Speaker 1: second podcast that I've been able to do with anybody.
Speaker 1: I am writing a book and eventually we'll have it
Speaker 1: published under the name Scratch Viewer. I think talking about
Speaker 1: it is probably my key thing for right now, because
Speaker 1: I'm getting older. I don't know how many days I
Speaker 1: have left, and for me to talk about what is
Speaker 1: important when I think is important for people to know,
Speaker 1: especially with the government coming out more and more in
Speaker 1: the US, in the UK and other places talking about
Speaker 1: UFOs and this sort of thing when they're not releasing
Speaker 1: everything that they do know. You know, I know that
Speaker 1: for a fact. Okay, like I said, I've seen lights
Speaker 1: in the sky around the house, you know, too close
Speaker 1: and nothing like that. But my father told me when
Speaker 1: I was just a kid that one night he heard
Speaker 1: something in the house and he said it sounded like
Speaker 1: it was coming from the hallway, and he said, from
Speaker 1: what he could tell, it sounded like two children talking
Speaker 1: to each other, one turning to the other, one saying
Speaker 1: something to the fact that they're going to be okay,
Speaker 1: and the other one replying, yeah, they'll be fine. And
Speaker 1: then he said, heard like a woosh sound. You didn't
Speaker 1: see any lights or anything like that, and just got
Speaker 1: a woosh. And you know, like I said, I've seen
Speaker 1: things since I was a child, since we since I
Speaker 1: can remember living in that same house. Until I was
Speaker 1: in my early twenties. You couldn't call somebody and say, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you make of this or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But I said, you'd be basically put on a list.
Speaker 1: And kind of getting back into it, I've seen some
Speaker 1: stuff from when I was just a child that didn't
Speaker 1: make any sense, and so I grew up kind of
Speaker 1: learning to expect the abnormal, expect the supernatural, expect the paranormal.
Speaker 1: Because my mother was very highly religious, and I've talked
Speaker 1: to her about these things, and her her reasoning was
Speaker 1: pray about it. And as I grew older and I
Speaker 1: told her more and more things and started to scare
Speaker 1: her in a way, And finally she revealed me one
Speaker 1: day that when she was a young girl living in
Speaker 1: the house, it was just down the road from where
Speaker 1: we lived, because we were on a long gravel road.
Speaker 1: She grew up in her mother's and father's house down
Speaker 1: the road or two football feels away from us. She
Speaker 1: said that one night when she's going to the outhouse,
Speaker 1: because back when she was a child, they didn't have
Speaker 1: plumbing down down that road. Their water system was close
Speaker 1: to the house, but they had that outhouse, which is
Speaker 1: a modern day toilet, but it was a separate building
Speaker 1: away from the house. She said that one night she
Speaker 1: was walking to the outhouse and she saw a gray
Speaker 1: ship with multiple lights on her windows as she called
Speaker 1: it because it looked like windows. There was like coming
Speaker 1: out of it sat windows tour. But she said it
Speaker 1: was a gray ship moving very slowly, not too far
Speaker 1: from the surface of the earth where she was walking.
Speaker 1: And that kind of intrigues me, and we would intrigue anybody,
Speaker 1: but that was one of the few times that she
Speaker 1: actually talked to me about it this stuff, because I
Speaker 1: think as time went by, she became more and more
Speaker 1: fearful of me because of the things that I was experiencing,
Speaker 1: the things I was experience around the household. It was
Speaker 1: as though the very land itself was a beacon to
Speaker 1: these strange and anomalous events that were going on, everything
Speaker 1: from time slips, to seeing cryptids, to seeing other things
Speaker 1: that weren't quite cryptis but but weren't shadows. Okay, a
Speaker 1: couple of encounters with ghosts there. South Carolina is a very,
Speaker 1: very old It's a very old part of the country.
Speaker 1: Where I grew up and where my mother grew up.
Speaker 1: Native Americans were said to have inhabited their land, and
Speaker 1: they were tribes there, and so there was a presence
Speaker 1: of that. It was just an interesting way to grow up. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing I want to talk about tonight is that,
Speaker 1: of course, you know, me talking about seeing lights in
Speaker 1: the sky, my mother seeing us a ship a craft.
Speaker 1: As I grew older. In those days, the area wasn't
Speaker 1: what it is now. We didn't have industry like we
Speaker 1: do now. There weren't very many job opportunities. The main woman.
Speaker 1: Entertainment was to basically get drunk and hang out with friends.
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure it's still it's always been that way,
Speaker 1: but back in those days, it's kind of what I did.
Speaker 1: Go over to a friend's house, would have a number
Speaker 1: of beers, and sometimes I wouln't even go back home.
Speaker 1: I'll just stay there and crash on the couch because
Speaker 1: it was the danger of getting called by the police
Speaker 1: outweighed the you know, convenience of going back to your bed.
Speaker 1: And this went on for a number of months because
Speaker 1: I was borderline depressed, just broken up with a girldfriend
Speaker 1: that I had for a couple of years, and it
Speaker 1: was just a way to kill time. I just one night,
Speaker 1: I just felt like I went to his house, a
Speaker 1: buddy's house. We were talking and everything. It wasn't late
Speaker 1: at night. It was rather early for me. A late
Speaker 1: night for me, it would be three and a three
Speaker 1: am in the morning, but it was rather early. It
Speaker 1: was right around at eleven o'clock. I decided to I
Speaker 1: decided to go home and finally just just take a
Speaker 1: night off and drinking, just take a night off of
Speaker 1: the party and just create some art. So I put
Speaker 1: on my head I had a Walkman cassette player, and
Speaker 1: I put on my headphone so I could quietly draw
Speaker 1: without disturbing anybody in the house and just draw. I
Speaker 1: love to create r I like to I like to
Speaker 1: do that sort of thing. So I started drawing a
Speaker 1: picture of a son. I don't know why. I could
Speaker 1: have threw faces like whatever in the world. I wanted
Speaker 1: to draw for some reason. That night, I was going
Speaker 1: to do a portrait of a galaxy or something like that.
Speaker 1: And I started and I was listening to a tape
Speaker 1: by John Siri called and the Stars Go with You.
Speaker 1: It's just new ag relaxing music to me, and so
Speaker 1: I was listening to it and looking to it for
Speaker 1: sort of kind of inspiration, and I kind of grew
Speaker 1: bored with that. So I said, Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: turn off the light and try to get some sleep.
Speaker 1: Just goes off listening to this beautiful music. Well, I
Speaker 1: had a telephone that was a line telephone back in
Speaker 1: those days. There was no such cell phones in the
Speaker 1: late eighties. In my bedroom, I had a line telephone
Speaker 1: right beside my bed, and we had a cordless telephone,
Speaker 1: which was a kind of a grandfather of the modern
Speaker 1: day cell phone. But it had to be a It
Speaker 1: was a phone that had an antenna, and that antenna
Speaker 1: connected to the base, which was located in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: It was on a charger, and it had its own
Speaker 1: specific ring kind of tone, more of a chirp than
Speaker 1: a ring. My phone would ring. Now I knew about
Speaker 1: I knew about UFOs from watching different television shows, and
Speaker 1: it was becoming more and more of a popular subject
Speaker 1: for people to talk about stuff, more than just in
Speaker 1: search of or any of other programs. There were magazines
Speaker 1: that in that time, there were books. You know, just
Speaker 1: imagine the number of people writing books on the subject,
Speaker 1: making money from really their story. And I thought it
Speaker 1: was cool, but I wasn't really heavily into it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm still not. I mean I pay attention, I'm just
Speaker 1: not overly into the topic because there's so many other
Speaker 1: things that I have to focus on, and as most
Speaker 1: people do when they're living a life. So back to
Speaker 1: my story. I turned the light out and I rolled
Speaker 1: back on my back and it was counter five and
Speaker 1: the phone in the kitchen, the porrible phone make like
Speaker 1: a chirp sound before my phone would ring. My phone
Speaker 1: would go. It was very loud, very loud, it would ring,
Speaker 1: whereas the phone in the kitchen would chirp. It's the
Speaker 1: best way to describe a beat chirp top sound. Well,
Speaker 1: I heard the phone in the kitchen go beat like
Speaker 1: it was about to ring, so immediately I just rolled
Speaker 1: over without turning the light on and started to reach
Speaker 1: for the phone by my bed, hoping to catch it
Speaker 1: before it rang again. Somebody calling that late at night.
Speaker 1: It had to be an emergency or something or something,
Speaker 1: someone doing some kind of silly parank or something, and
Speaker 1: I didn't want it. Waking with my parents and the
Speaker 1: bedroom not too far from mine. Their door wasn't their
Speaker 1: bedroom wasn't too far from my, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: wake them up. And just as I'm reaching forth the phone,
Speaker 1: a brilliant blue light pierced through my window and it
Speaker 1: came into the room. It freaked me out because right
Speaker 1: above the phone on the same wall was the electrical
Speaker 1: panel that basically served the entire house. On the other
Speaker 1: side of the wall where the light came there was
Speaker 1: a propane tank that used to keep the heater running
Speaker 1: that heated the entire house. Well. Seeing a blue light
Speaker 1: coming through the window. I kind of just totally forgot
Speaker 1: about what was going on with the phone for a second.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that either the propane tank is somehow connected
Speaker 1: to the electrical thing, or something's going on with the
Speaker 1: electrical panel above my head, literally above my head, about
Speaker 1: four feet away. And then as soon as the light
Speaker 1: came into the room, the light shut off. I mean
Speaker 1: it just it was just like real quick, I don't
Speaker 1: know how count to one two, like kind of a
Speaker 1: counter two, and the phone in the kitchen made another chirp.
Speaker 1: My phone never rang. I'm still reaching for it, but
Speaker 1: my phone never rang. The phone in the kitchen made
Speaker 1: another chirp. This time I noticed a low bas tone.
Speaker 1: It would be so low. It wasn't loud, but you
Speaker 1: could just feel the base tone, a low, low hum.
Speaker 1: And of course the light came through the window the
Speaker 1: same time. Now the hom happened, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I need to get out of bed. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I was kind of just frozen in place
Speaker 1: with kind of just fear. I don't know how I
Speaker 1: actually explain it. I just really I couldn't move count
Speaker 1: one two. The phone in the kitchen would chirp again
Speaker 1: one two, the hum and the light would come into
Speaker 1: the room. This time I decided to watch what the
Speaker 1: hell was going on the room. You know, I wanted
Speaker 1: to see what is this light happening into the bedroom.
Speaker 1: I wasn't about to get out of bed just yet.
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted just to see what's going on before,
Speaker 1: you know, assess the situation before I got a bed
Speaker 1: and start trying to warn everybody, wake up, wake up,
Speaker 1: there's something going on outside or something. And I noticed
Speaker 1: that the light just passed the foot of my bed,
Speaker 1: maybe a foot, so we're talking about like eight or
Speaker 1: nine feet into the room. And then this is when
Speaker 1: it really got weird. I mean, it's already weird to
Speaker 1: begin with, I'll confess that, but I noticed that the
Speaker 1: light jutted into the room was like a laser show.
Speaker 1: And in those days, lasers couldn't do this. I don't
Speaker 1: think lasers can do this now. But the light bent
Speaker 1: to the right and it swept like an arm over
Speaker 1: the bed, over my body, until it met with itself
Speaker 1: back in the window. It was zinked out and just
Speaker 1: zeroed completely out. The light basically went from the floor
Speaker 1: to the ceiling and it just zinked out, and then
Speaker 1: the chirp in the kitchen happened again. The low hum
Speaker 1: accompanied the chirp. The light came back in the room again,
Speaker 1: and I watched this happen two or three times. I
Speaker 1: wanted it enough to see to notice something that I
Speaker 1: can only describe as being sunbeams. If you've ever looked
Speaker 1: through it, you've seen the sun coming through a window,
Speaker 1: and you can see dust particles floating in the air.
Speaker 1: As and as you're sitting there observing the sunlight coming
Speaker 1: through the window through like a prison sort of thing,
Speaker 1: you can see little particles of dust floating in the air.
Speaker 1: I don't care where you are, how clean your house is,
Speaker 1: you're going to see dust particles like I did. I
Speaker 1: think that pretty much concludes how bright this light was.
Speaker 1: I mean, this light was wasn't just like a flashlight.
Speaker 1: This was like a laser light. And if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: back in those days they had basically two colors, red
Speaker 1: and green or something. Blue wasn't on the spectrum. In
Speaker 1: those days, we were way out in the was It
Speaker 1: wasn't someone playing a trick. We didn't have any neighbors.
Speaker 1: We had one neighbor and that was my aunt living
Speaker 1: in my grandmother's houseaid I mentioned at the beginning of
Speaker 1: this podcast, the technology was not there, and this was,
Speaker 1: like I said, kind of late late nineteen eighties, early nineties.
Speaker 1: The technology wasn't there to do this sort of thing.
Speaker 1: And had it been, who in the world's going to
Speaker 1: come over and mess with the country boy. There's nothing special, okay,
Speaker 1: just a kid starting out in life. Really, it wasn't
Speaker 1: going to happen anyway. Watching the light, listening to the
Speaker 1: sound of the little bass hum and the phone doing
Speaker 1: this crazy thing in the kitchen. I finally got my
Speaker 1: nerve up to scream out, and I screamed out, Dad,
Speaker 1: get your ass in here now, at the top of
Speaker 1: my lungs. We didn't swear in my house. My mother
Speaker 1: was super religious, and so I didn't so much as
Speaker 1: say the word I asked unless it was something deadly serious.
Speaker 1: And then, to me, this was deadly serious. I wasn't
Speaker 1: even thinking about what I was just saying. I was
Speaker 1: just just saying it. I slept in that room in
Speaker 1: my bedroom, door open most of the time, but I
Speaker 1: didn't feel the need to close it. There was really
Speaker 1: no need to. I looked over just as I'm getting
Speaker 1: the words out, and I can see my father coming
Speaker 1: to the door. I turned a light on so that
Speaker 1: I could see what's going on beside my dad. I
Speaker 1: had a table beside it. The only things on the
Speaker 1: table were in a little the lamp and the phone.
Speaker 1: He comes to the door and he's still trying to
Speaker 1: watch sleep from his eyes. He's like, what's going on?
Speaker 1: I'm like, did you not see what's going on out
Speaker 1: in this room? He said no. My mother was very
Speaker 1: ill health. She kind of come in behind him. And
Speaker 1: I said, did you hear the phone ringing in the kitchen?
Speaker 1: And he said no, But my mother said, yeah, I
Speaker 1: heard the chirping of the phone in the kitchen, but
Speaker 1: that was all I heard. I said, did you see
Speaker 1: any lights? And she said no, and he didn't see
Speaker 1: they lives. So I want to go outside. I want
Speaker 1: to see what the hell's going on outside. I need
Speaker 1: to go outside. And my father said, well, from what
Speaker 1: you're telling me, you don't need to go anywhere. You
Speaker 1: don't need to go outside. The last thing you need
Speaker 1: to do is go outside. I was like, really super
Speaker 1: intense about it, and I said, well, I'm not going outside.
Speaker 1: I'm not sleeping in this bedroom tonight, I'll sleep in
Speaker 1: your bedroom on the floor with the shotgun beside me.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on. It didn't make
Speaker 1: any sense at the time, It really didn't, but it
Speaker 1: was enough to just open my eyes to the possibilities
Speaker 1: of many, many things that I would learn and carry
Speaker 1: with me the rest of my life. Now, I could
Speaker 1: easily have talked about this with somebody, but moof On.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that it existed in those days.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I wasn't paying that much attention to things.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that mouf On existed. But that
Speaker 1: would have been one of the first people I contacted
Speaker 1: and connect to this and said, hey, what do you
Speaker 1: make of this? I'm not sad that I didn't, because
Speaker 1: many more strange things would happen later in life than
Speaker 1: even even this was kind of a It was a
Speaker 1: monumental event in my life, and it was just it
Speaker 1: was something big, but it wasn't the biggest thing that
Speaker 1: ever happened to me, but not the most bizarre thing.
Speaker 1: It's time to go by, and so that was the
Speaker 1: first time I had a close encounter, that close, if
Speaker 1: you will. It was like a week or two later,
Speaker 1: I was in this I had my own bathroom in
Speaker 1: that same room, and I was looking out the window,
Speaker 1: the bathroom window which was on this saying well as
Speaker 1: the bedroom window, and I noticed that some paint had
Speaker 1: been charred from the side of the of the propane
Speaker 1: tank that I mentioned earlier, and it was on the
Speaker 1: side from where the light would have come from. It
Speaker 1: was weird because it was like it was super rusted.
Speaker 1: Propane tanks are painted for a reason and so they
Speaker 1: don't rust, and this tank wasn't more than two or
Speaker 1: three years old. There should have been no signs of
Speaker 1: rust on that side of the propane tank lid at all,
Speaker 1: and that's where the rust was. There was nobody to
Speaker 1: go out and take a scraping of it and say, hey,
Speaker 1: is this radioactive material? It probably was, but what would
Speaker 1: be the point. And I'd taken a piece of the
Speaker 1: scrapings of the rest off of the propane tank down
Speaker 1: to Clinton University and said, hey, what do you guys
Speaker 1: make of this? And I said it was radioact material?
Speaker 1: Where the hell did you get this? It would have
Speaker 1: been a whole bunch and it had been a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of explanation, explaining and explanation that I didn't really
Speaker 1: want to get involved in not me in twenty two,
Speaker 1: twenty three years old. No, I wasn't going to do it.
Speaker 1: It would have been more harmful than good for me. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the house was damaged. That kind of encouraged me
Speaker 1: to go out and look at the back of the house.
Speaker 1: And I went out and I looked. I looked at
Speaker 1: everything around the back of the house where the power
Speaker 1: lines came in. Nothing was damaged. There was no peeling,
Speaker 1: a paint from the wall on the outside or anything
Speaker 1: like that. There was nothing other than just rusting aside
Speaker 1: of a propane tank to even with being any kind
Speaker 1: of clue that anything had happened. As time went by,
Speaker 1: I started thinking about what had happened that night. I
Speaker 1: replayed the event over and over and over in my
Speaker 1: mind to where I have so much clarity as like
Speaker 1: I do today. It's just one of those memories you
Speaker 1: just can't erase. It's like watching a really slow movie
Speaker 1: over and over again. And what occurred to me over
Speaker 1: thinking about it is right before I yelled from my father,
Speaker 1: I remember standing in front of the window and looking
Speaker 1: into the light as it came through the window. Now,
Speaker 1: the light entering the room from me leaning on the
Speaker 1: bed was blue, but when I looked into the light,
Speaker 1: it wasn't blue at all. It was gold. And I
Speaker 1: had the strangest feeling. I had the strangest saw it
Speaker 1: at the time, and it took me years. Now, it
Speaker 1: took me decades to figure out what the feeling was
Speaker 1: and what I was actually thinking and to be able
Speaker 1: to put it into words. What flashed through my mind
Speaker 1: is that a part of me was on board that ship. Okay,
Speaker 1: that somehow another I had channeled, whatever other part of
Speaker 1: me existed, something either offspring or me was on board
Speaker 1: that ship. That's how I felt. That's how connected I
Speaker 1: felt to this thing. And it's taken decades and science
Speaker 1: I think it's finally catching up. But there's a scene
Speaker 1: that's considered multiple soul, where you're aware of where you
Speaker 1: are here and now, but your soul can be splintered
Speaker 1: into other box bodies, across other dimensions, across other universes,
Speaker 1: across other planetary systems. Within our own universe, you are here,
Speaker 1: you are now, but you also are living a separate
Speaker 1: life that we're kind of like, kind of like an
Speaker 1: octopus with many arms, but your body is just one
Speaker 1: of those arms. The main you does go back to
Speaker 1: a source, but you're splintered. This sounds crazy, and I
Speaker 1: know it sounds crazy. It sounded absolutely crazy to me
Speaker 1: until I heard one other person talk about it, and
Speaker 1: I heard another person talk about it on YouTube or whatever,
Speaker 1: once the Internet had really finally gotten up and running
Speaker 1: where it is now. It took that long for other
Speaker 1: people to start sharing their experiences and saying, this is
Speaker 1: what I think. I think not only in this body,
Speaker 1: but I get visions of other places, other worlds. Things
Speaker 1: that couldn't be possible here are occurring in other places
Speaker 1: and across other parts of space and time where space
Speaker 1: and time are literally irrelevant. Well, that's kind of why
Speaker 1: I felt looking into that light. And I'm kind of
Speaker 1: free to say it now, And I didn't want to
Speaker 1: say anything for decades up until I was able to
Speaker 1: put the whole thing into a context where it's understandable
Speaker 1: so I could express myself to other people. At the time,
Speaker 1: it didn't make any sense. It was very confusing. It
Speaker 1: was an emotional time. Since then, there's no telling how
Speaker 1: many times I've been abducted up until that point. I
Speaker 1: have no idea, I have no recollection. I never saw
Speaker 1: anything like that happened. And we lived from the time
Speaker 1: we moved into that house when I was four years
Speaker 1: old up until about the time I was twenty two
Speaker 1: twenty three. I've never seen anything like that. I've seen
Speaker 1: other things that would make you wonder question your sandy
Speaker 1: question you're on, do I need to see a doctor
Speaker 1: or something like that, But no, I know that I
Speaker 1: was best best off not saying anything until now because
Speaker 1: it was just it's just crazy to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: This is nuts, okay for me to sit and talk
Speaker 1: about bent light. Light that bent back on itself. It
Speaker 1: was looking for something. It was looking for someone. I
Speaker 1: think that someone was me, and I think it was
Speaker 1: looking for me. What did it want? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It definitely had that ability what thirty years ago, forty
Speaker 1: years thirty, Yeah, about thirty five years ago. That technology
Speaker 1: wasn't around then, even if we had possessed craft and
Speaker 1: they had reverse engineered it. And I really doubt if
Speaker 1: they have that technology now, I don't think it's I
Speaker 1: don't think they have it to where you can run
Speaker 1: a line with a light and make it bend back
Speaker 1: on itself. Okay, time went by, and it was time
Speaker 1: for me to finally kind of say goodbye to mom
Speaker 1: and dad because I was just growing older, and it
Speaker 1: really hung around the house longer than I wanted to
Speaker 1: because my mother had been in such ill health. But
Speaker 1: time was slipping past me. I was getting older. I
Speaker 1: really didn't want to be in the country anymore. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I just wanted to see the world,
Speaker 1: if you will. I met a young lady. She was
Speaker 1: from Atlanta, and so I elected to move to Atlanta
Speaker 1: and we would get an apartment out there in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: which was a big city, something that was one hundred
Speaker 1: the polar opposite of where I grew up and was
Speaker 1: still living, and we were going to begin a life
Speaker 1: out in Atlanta. I got a really good paying job
Speaker 1: with a fortune five hundred company, and I was kind
Speaker 1: of working my way up through things, you know, the
Speaker 1: corporate ladder. I was going places. I was smart, I
Speaker 1: was a good worker. I knew what I was doing.
Speaker 1: I was on top of my game, and something kind
Speaker 1: of happened that sidelined me. I was working in Atlanta
Speaker 1: when my mother and father had to have surgery in
Speaker 1: two different hospitals, each an hour and a half apart.
Speaker 1: Two hours apart to the same condition. Both of them
Speaker 1: had colon cancer. Okay, they were having surgeries to remove
Speaker 1: the cancer from their colons on the same day. Me
Speaker 1: being an only child, I felt it was my duty
Speaker 1: to go be with my mother and go pay a
Speaker 1: visit to my father. And the role was for me
Speaker 1: to drive from where I was living in Atlanta two
Speaker 1: and a half hours to the hospital, and from that hospital,
Speaker 1: drive another two and a half hours to the second hospital,
Speaker 1: and then four hours back to from my place out
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, just to be with both of them. It
Speaker 1: was highly unusual that both of them had the same
Speaker 1: surgery on the same day in two different hospitals, but
Speaker 1: that's just the way it played out. I had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with that, and for them both to have
Speaker 1: the same disease, colon cancer, it was just very odd.
Speaker 1: Six months later, I'm also having surgery pro testicular cancer
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and that basically sidelined me. I was disabled
Speaker 1: for ten years because of that. The two surgeries I
Speaker 1: have was in Atlanta, But it was that all three
Speaker 1: of us had cancer in a similar region of the body.
Speaker 1: The middle of the body within within three months of
Speaker 1: each other. That was strange. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was caused that night, which I doubt, but maybe some
Speaker 1: other time or occurrence that I can't recall. Well. I
Speaker 1: had a little money, said nothing, so we moved back
Speaker 1: back to South Carolina, finally bought a house here. I'm
Speaker 1: just working through things that way, and it was best
Speaker 1: for me to just chill and relax for a number
Speaker 1: of years, just trying to get healthy again, just try
Speaker 1: where I had enough strength to be able to do
Speaker 1: things without having to sit down immediately. Because cancer can
Speaker 1: be a beast. It can work on your body, and
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of people don't understand about cancer.
Speaker 1: I may not look like I have cancer now, but
Speaker 1: I definitely feel the effects of it because I don't
Speaker 1: have the stamina that I used to have. I'm slower
Speaker 1: than I used to be. I'm not weaker than what
Speaker 1: I used to be. I'm six foot one now, weigh
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five pounds. I'm healthy now, but
Speaker 1: at that time, no, man, it was a totally different story.
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Speaker 5: It's Time it ew is the.
Speaker 1: So we would go down to a place called Destined
Speaker 1: for Vacation, but it's basically it's just a it's a
Speaker 1: little beach where nothing ever goes on, if it never happens.
Speaker 1: I think there's one gas station, one restaurant in one
Speaker 1: bar in one building, and that's that's all in one
Speaker 1: building in this place. We'd go out and we'd sit
Speaker 1: on the beach at night and we observed a craft
Speaker 1: coming in off the ocean in two of sixteens following
Speaker 1: right behind it. It would come in from the ocean,
Speaker 1: it would drive, it would fly past us, and it
Speaker 1: would fly right back out into the ocean. It sixteens
Speaker 1: hot on its tail. When we saw that a few
Speaker 1: times down in Destin. When we would go home, and
Speaker 1: like the year or two later, we'd go to a
Speaker 1: different beach, because going to the beach here was a
Speaker 1: big thing for us. We would go to another place
Speaker 1: called ke Island. It saw the same thing in k Island.
Speaker 1: The odd thing is that Kio Island is close to
Speaker 1: a naval base, whereas Destin, Florida. I'm not too sure
Speaker 1: there was a naval base anywhere in the Gulf of Mexico,
Speaker 1: anywhere close to us. I may be wrong, but I
Speaker 1: never paid any attention to it. I only knew about
Speaker 1: the one that was near Charleston, the naval base, and
Speaker 1: we would see the same thing. In Charleston, we'd sit
Speaker 1: on the beach late at night. We'd see something was
Speaker 1: almost invisible. It was it was gray gray, silver in color,
Speaker 1: and a black night with no moon, or a very
Speaker 1: little moon. We'd see and then we'd see two sixteens.
Speaker 1: You can you can hear and feel the sixteens as
Speaker 1: we passed us. The silver gray thing never made a sound,
Speaker 1: And maybe I don't know. One hundred fifty one hundred
Speaker 1: feet above the surface of the ocean, and it was quiet.
Speaker 1: The sixteens a little higher, they had to be a
Speaker 1: little bit higher. He didn't feel any you know, heat
Speaker 1: resistance from them or anything like that. You didn't feel
Speaker 1: anything like that, but you could see them. They were
Speaker 1: following this thing. Now, I'm pretty convinced that was something
Speaker 1: that we had probably reverse engineer. And I say that
Speaker 1: because I saw that same thing in the front yard
Speaker 1: where I live now. I live further further east from
Speaker 1: those days, and I've seen the same thing happen in
Speaker 1: my front yard here. This time there were a lot
Speaker 1: more than just a couple of sixtees falling behind it.
Speaker 1: It was just a few years ago, But that was
Speaker 1: just one of those things. You see, you see it,
Speaker 1: And who do you tell this to? You don't tell
Speaker 1: any about this stuff. You tell them you see a
Speaker 1: UFO back in the early two thousands, they're gonna think
Speaker 1: you're nuts. They're gonna think you're crazy. I know if
Speaker 1: i'd have told anybody, and I didn't, I kept I
Speaker 1: kept it to a very small group of people that
Speaker 1: I spoke with. Friends. All Right, people is non importance,
Speaker 1: no official of any kind. And I very I very
Speaker 1: rarely ever spoke about the Blue Eye, the ship with
Speaker 1: that had that capacity. Now the time went by and
Speaker 1: we decided to go to kia Wiland, which is in
Speaker 1: South Carolina. It's near Charleston, with a couple of friends.
Speaker 1: My mother had passed away, she'd been dead a couple
Speaker 1: of years, and we decided to go to Kea, which
Speaker 1: is a nice place. It's mainly for the Mega Rige vacation.
Speaker 1: Every we we had an inside line on it and
Speaker 1: we got a place for very cheap where it could
Speaker 1: have been a house close to the beach and near
Speaker 1: one of the codes. I don't think we had to
Speaker 1: worry about wh're alligators walking walking around, So when you
Speaker 1: park your car, you always making sure to look for
Speaker 1: an alligator walking right up on you because they love
Speaker 1: marshmallows and they think they associate humans with marshmallows. So
Speaker 1: we didn't feed them any marshmallow anything like that, but
Speaker 1: we just had to keep an eye out for them
Speaker 1: because they were everywhere. Well, one night the couple asked
Speaker 1: us if we would like to go to the beach
Speaker 1: and take the midnight stroll along the ocean side my
Speaker 1: girlfriend at the time. The girl from Atlanta said, I
Speaker 1: got to get something from the car. Let me go
Speaker 1: go come with me get something out of the car.
Speaker 1: I need to help me carry it. I can't even
Speaker 1: remember what it was, now, but it was something guard.
Speaker 1: Maybe I've been a cooler or something like that. And
Speaker 1: we would go back to the house and then leave
Speaker 1: from the house and go to the beach for a straw.
Speaker 1: And this might have been right around I don't know,
Speaker 1: ten thirty at night. I remember walking to the car
Speaker 1: and standing next to the car, her digging in the
Speaker 1: back seat of the car, and I'm looking up and
Speaker 1: I'm looking up, and she steps beside me, and she
Speaker 1: looks up and she says, what's that red light? And
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, that's what I was about to ask you,
Speaker 1: what is that red light? And then the next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's like this is a snap
Speaker 1: of the fingers quick. I'm maybe three hundred four hundred
Speaker 1: feet away from the car at the far end of
Speaker 1: the parking lot. I'm almost in in the tree line,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of just dazed. There's the only way
Speaker 1: I can say it. I felt like I was dazed,
Speaker 1: and she was between me and the car and we're
Speaker 1: still a good pace, a good walk to the house.
Speaker 1: I just shook it off him, you know. I walked
Speaker 1: toward her and I said, you know, I didn't really
Speaker 1: have anything to say. I'm just kind of like walking.
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything. We go back into the house
Speaker 1: and I said to my friend's are you all ready
Speaker 1: to go for a walk on the beach? And they
Speaker 1: were mad at us. They were furious. I'm like, what's wrong,
Speaker 1: my buddy. He turns to me and says, well, you
Speaker 1: said we were going to go for a walk on
Speaker 1: the beach and just had to get something from the car,
Speaker 1: and y'all went for a walk on the beach without us.
Speaker 1: And I said, what, no, man, we just went to
Speaker 1: the car. We just literally went to the car to
Speaker 1: get something that she needed out of the car. Well,
Speaker 1: you've been gone for two hours. I was like what
Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, you've been gone for two hours. He
Speaker 1: pointed to a cloth and it was longer like ten
Speaker 1: thirty eleven o'clock. It was like one thirty at night.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, you got to be messing with me.
Speaker 1: You've changed the time on the clock. You've changed it something.
Speaker 1: And I said, this is bullshit. Why are you doing this,
Speaker 1: he said, I'm not doing it. Man, You've been gone.
Speaker 1: You've been gone for two hours. That's just enough time
Speaker 1: for you to take a nice long walk down the
Speaker 1: beach and have your little romantic interloude. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: no such thing, but you know, and miss this thing
Speaker 1: at all. We were going to the car to get something,
Speaker 1: and we're going to come right back. And I said,
Speaker 1: exactly what I did. I went to the car and
Speaker 1: I got something out of the car, and I can't
Speaker 1: even remember now. At the time, I said, I can't
Speaker 1: even remember now what the hell I got out of
Speaker 1: the car, Okay, because I didn't walk back into the
Speaker 1: house with an I walked back into the house with
Speaker 1: nothing in my hands, so that didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: That was like two hours of missing time. I can't
Speaker 1: remember anything. All I can remember is just looking up
Speaker 1: and seeing a red light. That's the only way I
Speaker 1: can describe it. It had to be attached to the
Speaker 1: bottom of a helicopter or a little assessment airplane or
Speaker 1: something like that, and that's how far away it look.
Speaker 1: But I do know that it was getting closer. I
Speaker 1: remember that. After that, I'm a complete blank. So life happened,
Speaker 1: a divorce happened, I had another girlfriend, and then finally
Speaker 1: that relationship ended and I'm with a girl I'm with now.
Speaker 1: We've been together since the two thousand and seven, two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, somewhere in there. We've been together ever
Speaker 1: since then. It's whole long story, complicated. We'll finally moved
Speaker 1: to where a place out a little further east, a
Speaker 1: couple of counties over from where I grew up, where
Speaker 1: I was living when I had cancer. We moved into
Speaker 1: a place that on top of a mountain, and I've
Speaker 1: seen more UFO activity here than I have any other
Speaker 1: place in my life. I've seen things here that don't
Speaker 1: make any sense. People talk about UFOs being underwater, UFOs
Speaker 1: being underdrowned. The things that I've seen here have convinced
Speaker 1: me that no, they don't have to be underwater. They
Speaker 1: don't have to be underground. They can be in the
Speaker 1: middle of a park, in the middle of New York City.
Speaker 1: They can be wherever they want to be. They can be,
Speaker 1: for instance, here, their position is stationed in a place
Speaker 1: close to an international airport. I know what planes look
Speaker 1: like when they land, I know what they look like
Speaker 1: when they take off. But I've seen stuff here that
Speaker 1: just asis physics. And we've been living here for maybe
Speaker 1: three or four years. Through one night, I step outside.
Speaker 1: At that time, I was still smoking cigarettes. That's why
Speaker 1: I was stepping outside on the coal In a night.
Speaker 1: I look up into the sky and I see something
Speaker 1: that looks like The best way I can describe it
Speaker 1: is like four closing the giant door to a grand
Speaker 1: hall in Valdehalla. That's the best way I can describe it.
Speaker 1: It was two points of the three angle triangle that
Speaker 1: lit up like gold. But the distance from point to
Speaker 1: point had to be thirty miles. It had to be
Speaker 1: for the size of this thne to just be there,
Speaker 1: come in and then fade out. I couldn't live seeing it.
Speaker 1: My brain couldn't. I couldn't wrap my brain around. I
Speaker 1: couldn't think about what I was looking at. It didn't
Speaker 1: make any sense, a large gold triangle in the sky,
Speaker 1: But it wasn't. One of the bars of the triangle
Speaker 1: was missing. It was just a two angles. One of
Speaker 1: this thing wasn't huge, and it wasn't even necessarily in
Speaker 1: our airspace, but right outside of it, just right outside
Speaker 1: of the stratosphere, all right. I kind of let it go.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, okay, I'm not seeing things. I know
Speaker 1: what I saw. It looked like that, But it couldn't
Speaker 1: have been Thor closing the door to Odin's hall. It
Speaker 1: couldn't have been. That's just no. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: the Vikings would have said it was, because that's what
Speaker 1: it looked like, the light coming underneath the door as
Speaker 1: someone was closing it. I kind of let it go,
Speaker 1: but I just kept that in mind. A few months later,
Speaker 1: I kind of I'm talking to a neighbor who's lived
Speaker 1: here a lot longer than I have, but he had
Speaker 1: he had told me that there had been nice I
Speaker 1: asked him why was he outside at night, late at night,
Speaker 1: just standing there watching the sky. And he said because
Speaker 1: he stood up there and he watched the sky because
Speaker 1: he loved nature, but also because he had a couple
Speaker 1: of buddies. Had been out there one night and they
Speaker 1: were watching exactly where I mentioned where I saw the
Speaker 1: thing in the sky. He said, we saw a star disappear.
Speaker 1: There was a star there and it was just gone,
Speaker 1: and then it came back later and I've been he said,
Speaker 1: he's been studying that star ever since, waiting for it
Speaker 1: to disappear again because it was no clouds in the sky.
Speaker 1: We're on top of a mountain where I live now, Okay,
Speaker 1: And since I saw what I saw and I talked
Speaker 1: my neighbor about it, let's see other things too that
Speaker 1: have convinced me that these things have the ability to
Speaker 1: be in like a stealth mode, invisible. They're there, wind water,
Speaker 1: air traffic, things can pass right through them, but they're stationary.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that gold light again, but I've seen
Speaker 1: other things. I've seen lights traverse from one extremely much
Speaker 1: faster than an airplane travel into that same area, and
Speaker 1: just as it gets to it slow down and disappear.
Speaker 1: I've seen this numerous times. I've seen an array of
Speaker 1: different colored lights, not starlink. I've seen starlink go over.
Speaker 1: This wasn't starlink. These things hovered about two miles from
Speaker 1: where I live. Because I'm on top of a mountain,
Speaker 1: they'll be able to see the peak of a mountain
Speaker 1: far away. Saw an array of lights that were spaced
Speaker 1: evenly apart, probably about a quarter of a mile from
Speaker 1: each other. But they were not the colors red, white, blue,
Speaker 1: and green, and some just strange stuff like that I
Speaker 1: see here all the time. Now, that's about all God
Speaker 1: as far as the UFO stuff goes. A lot of
Speaker 1: weird stuff happens here. People just go missing, never heard
Speaker 1: from again. And it's not like they're the kind of
Speaker 1: people just up and run away from home. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: just vanish without a price, And all kinds of stuff
Speaker 1: like that happens here in this region of the country,
Speaker 1: just really weird stuff. My family saw things they didn't
Speaker 1: want to talk about with me. I think it was
Speaker 1: because I scared them more than they scared me, because
Speaker 1: it would just add fuel to a fire, as they
Speaker 1: thought it would. The more you talk about it, the
Speaker 1: more it happens in your life. And I don't believe
Speaker 1: that now. I really never believed it to begin with.
Speaker 1: But I'm to the point in life where it's perfectly
Speaker 1: okay for me to talk about it. There are people
Speaker 1: out there who are like me, who have more than
Speaker 1: just an experience with the UFO once or twice in
Speaker 1: a lifetime, but they have other things happen too, And
Speaker 1: it's not just me. It's places where I've been I've
Speaker 1: had an experience, and then it'll be on the news
Speaker 1: that someone else has had this same experience where I was.
Speaker 1: When I'm talking about the same experience, I'm talking about cryptis.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about things that's been encountered in forests, places
Speaker 1: where people go go fishing with a mountain when they
Speaker 1: fish for trout because it's such a remote area, a
Speaker 1: national park kind of thing, where it's a protected land.
Speaker 2: Now, are you still getting paranormal activity around your property today?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It varies, but yeah, we've had a lot of
Speaker 1: paranormal activity happened here. If you've ever heard of it.
Speaker 1: In Irish folk wore, there's this thing called the knocker
Speaker 1: that knocks three times, and within a certain period of time,
Speaker 1: someone associated with you. It doesn't have to be a relative,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a friend. It's someone that
Speaker 1: you are aware of will die within a certain period
Speaker 1: of time. It would come and tell me, hey not
Speaker 1: not somebody out was associated with me in somewhere or
Speaker 1: form was in my circle. Yeah, we would have that.
Speaker 1: Had that happen a lot for a number of years,
Speaker 1: and then it just ended, just as quickly as it began,
Speaker 1: it stopped. That's an interesting story into itself.
Speaker 2: The knocker. Yeah, we have of something very similar In
Speaker 2: the UK, people might know it as the Tommy knocker.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the term iris. I want to say,
Speaker 1: Ris Scottish. It's kind of phenomenon in that region. It's
Speaker 1: always three knocks. It's never one, it's never four, it's
Speaker 1: usually three. Now I put it down to one. There's
Speaker 1: a guy out there, a trainee. Okay. This happened so
Speaker 1: much to where I was just I would wake up
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, hear the knox and
Speaker 1: go okay, and just roll over and go back to sleep. Literally,
Speaker 1: that's how common it came for me. I would just uh,
Speaker 1: all right, yep, somebody's going to die, roll over, okay.
Speaker 1: Because this life isn't the only life that I have.
Speaker 1: It's not the only life that you have. This life
Speaker 1: is not the only life that any of your followers
Speaker 1: or listeners out there will ever have. This is this
Speaker 1: body is just a vessel. It's just you're in a
Speaker 1: time machine. To quote Black Sabbath, You're living in a
Speaker 1: time machine. This is not the only time that you'll
Speaker 1: ever know. You'll know other times. You'll know other futures,
Speaker 1: you'll know other bodies. You'll be incorporated into other things.
Speaker 1: Some people say that reincarnation happens when you come back
Speaker 1: to this planet. And trust me, this is not the
Speaker 1: only planet with intelligent life. This is the only dimension
Speaker 1: with intelligent life, and this is certainly not the only universe.
Speaker 1: If there is that exists, there are other universes as well,
Speaker 1: and what kind of connects them all our dimensions all
Speaker 1: kinds of other things that are out there that nobody
Speaker 1: really wants to talk about because it's so far beyond
Speaker 1: the imagination. It's more than just real. It's something that
Speaker 1: we need to try to investigate and try to source
Speaker 1: with each other and inform each other, because I think
Speaker 1: it's the one thing that gives everybody hope. It gives
Speaker 1: me hope, Okay, and I'm pretty hopeless. I don't want
Speaker 1: to think of this life being the only one I've
Speaker 1: ever had. It's a short time compared to the trees
Speaker 1: that are growing just across the road from where I live.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to live that long on this planet.
Speaker 1: That is not my dream. There are too many other
Speaker 1: things I haven't seen in this universe alone. But to
Speaker 1: know that there are other dimensions, other places that I
Speaker 1: can go once this body is expired, and betrayed itself.
Speaker 1: At least I'll know I will continue on. I know
Speaker 1: you will continue on. I know everybody on the planet,
Speaker 1: no matter what you want to believe, no matter if
Speaker 1: you're an atheist or not. A lot of people believe
Speaker 1: that once you die, you die, that's the end. Make
Speaker 1: the best of your life while your hair don't. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that at all. I live every day like it's
Speaker 1: my last, and now do I live to the fullest.
Speaker 1: Cancer taught me that.
Speaker 2: You mentioned you senden cryptids. Has that been on your
Speaker 2: property or has it been out in the wilderness.
Speaker 1: Well, when I was growing up as a child, it
Speaker 1: was on the property. And then, like I was telling
Speaker 1: you earlier about the only thing you really had to
Speaker 1: do as a young man to have fun would be
Speaker 1: literally to go out into the r and get drunk,
Speaker 1: to build a fire and just hanging out and chat
Speaker 1: with friends, you know, have some laughs. And so, yeah,
Speaker 1: we saw some stuff out out in the forest. This
Speaker 1: is a story by kind of by itself. Before I
Speaker 1: saw the UFO that I told you with a blue light,
Speaker 1: I'd had a relationship that had been gone for a
Speaker 1: couple of years, and uh, it kind of abruptly ended.
Speaker 1: We were making plans, we were moving in together. We're
Speaker 1: going to start a life in Augusta, Georgia, which is
Speaker 1: just south of here, about an hour and a half,
Speaker 1: where I was talking about where my family home was.
Speaker 1: It just ended. And so that was a part of
Speaker 1: the depression I mentioned earlier. I was just slightly depressed
Speaker 1: because of that. But a buddy of mine reconnected with
Speaker 1: me and said, hey, I want to go camping, and
Speaker 1: I've got a couple of buddies of mine. I want
Speaker 1: you to meet and we'll go up to a place.
Speaker 1: It's right or come out of suck kind of line
Speaker 1: where they go trout fishing at the bottom of this road.
Speaker 1: I said, sure, what if I got to lose? I mean,
Speaker 1: I just really come back into town. I hadn't had
Speaker 1: a job yet. I was looking for the prospect of
Speaker 1: a job, but I hadn't really found one. And I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a Thursday night. Why not let's go. And so
Speaker 1: I meet up with my buddy and we meet up
Speaker 1: with these two guys and they said, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: what we need to do. And I was given the
Speaker 1: direction of what I needed to bring with me. Or whatever.
Speaker 1: We're going to bring some firewood with us. It had
Speaker 1: been raining all day, so there was water everywhere and
Speaker 1: the rain had just stopped, but had been pouring for
Speaker 1: three days straight. They had a case of beer and
Speaker 1: some liquor cooler full of sandwich meat and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: We're off to go camping, all right. Camping didn't mean
Speaker 1: with a tent or hiking or nothing like that. Their
Speaker 1: version of camping was basically taken a car and try
Speaker 1: to get it stuck out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Because there's a place called Mattahala Forest. It's north of Valhalla,
Speaker 1: South Carolina, and they had a place picked out where
Speaker 1: there's rivers and stuff like that up to there, where
Speaker 1: a lot of people go trout fishing. And it was
Speaker 1: it was early I think on late summer. It was
Speaker 1: one or the other. I think it was pretty much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was late summer and we were going to go
Speaker 1: and it been raining, and we got into a ford
Speaker 1: escort and we took this thing up into the mountains
Speaker 1: down this long road. It wasn't it wasn't graveled by
Speaker 1: any means. It was just mud. That little car just
Speaker 1: plowed through that thing like it was a rain deep
Speaker 1: through snow. It had no problem up and over the
Speaker 1: hills around the curves we got. We went deep into
Speaker 1: this forest and we picked a place that was level.
Speaker 1: And the first thing we did back then is you
Speaker 1: start a fire. Okay, Yeah, we were in the middle
Speaker 1: of a forest, and yes, we're about to start a
Speaker 1: fire in the middle of the road. And that was
Speaker 1: probably stupid. Had I been raining someone, actually, I would
Speaker 1: have been no, we don't. This is not a good
Speaker 1: idea to build a fire in the middle because nobody
Speaker 1: ever goes up out into the forest at night time,
Speaker 1: especially where we were at and served as a paved
Speaker 1: road that runs through there for thirty forty miles. But
Speaker 1: it's not something that people do normally. Normal people back
Speaker 1: in those times just didn't do this kind of stuff, okay,
Speaker 1: And I think that's while we were so determined to
Speaker 1: get away with it. It was a little rebellious, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, its exciting. I'm making friends with
Speaker 1: two new people I've never met before in my life,
Speaker 1: and I barely knew the guy that had invited. It
Speaker 1: was just basically a relief for me to finally get
Speaker 1: on with life. So we get in the car. We
Speaker 1: get up there. We're out there in the middle of
Speaker 1: the forest, down this long, long, muddy road. There was
Speaker 1: no gravel to mention, nothing to keep us from getting stuck.
Speaker 1: We almost got stuck once going in, but the little
Speaker 1: car kept pulling through, and it impressed me. The first
Speaker 1: thing we do is we build a fire. Well, we
Speaker 1: brought some wood with us that was dry, and so
Speaker 1: we're trying to scrounds for wood in the forest. Even
Speaker 1: though it was damp, we still put it on top
Speaker 1: of the burning logs that we had, hoping that it
Speaker 1: would dry it out. And we're drinking a little it
Speaker 1: and we're just talking to each other. We're young, you know,
Speaker 1: we're having a good time in the middle of the forest.
Speaker 1: You know, it's spooky. It's hell out there because they're
Speaker 1: bear there are mountain lions. There's snakes and spiders and
Speaker 1: ticks and anything else you can imagine. It's got teeth
Speaker 1: or cloths. It could easily just walk up on you
Speaker 1: and just take a bite, okay, because it felt like it.
Speaker 1: That's how far into the forest we were. But we
Speaker 1: were having a good time. We're playing radio real loud.
Speaker 1: We had a little jam box with us. It's thundered.
Speaker 1: It was just boom, boom boom. You know, We're having
Speaker 1: a good time. And it was clearing up. It stopped raining,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean everything was still wet. The trees
Speaker 1: were still dripping with water everywhere. We're having a good time.
Speaker 1: I'm just being you know, kids in their twenties. At
Speaker 1: some point in the night, I decided to to take
Speaker 1: a seat on the cooler, just to sit down because
Speaker 1: I looked for wood. I couldn't find any wood for
Speaker 1: the fire. The fire was starting to go out. No
Speaker 1: body walks over to me, and he says, hey, man,
Speaker 1: are you having a good time. I said, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not in a great time. But what do you think
Speaker 1: of my friends? I was like, well, I like I
Speaker 1: like them both. They're both. One guy's funny as hell.
Speaker 1: The other guy he seems to be an intellectual enough
Speaker 1: where I can carry on a conversation without one that
Speaker 1: choking to death. He started to say something to me.
Speaker 1: It was a full moon, and the moon was to
Speaker 1: my left and I'm looking at him, and something something
Speaker 1: moved just to my left, maybe six foot, yeah, around
Speaker 1: six ft away from me. Something moved. I looked over
Speaker 1: and all I saw was a shadow of something that
Speaker 1: was around eight inches tall. Okay, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck, I'm part of my language, but that's what
Speaker 1: I was at, I said out loud. I said then,
Speaker 1: I said it now, And my buddy caught sight of it,
Speaker 1: and for some reason it made him mad. He got angry. Uh,
Speaker 1: he lunched at it. He almost fell off the side
Speaker 1: of the cliff because it was on this not not
Speaker 1: really a cliff. It wasn't a degree angled right angle
Speaker 1: to drop off, but it was very steep and he
Speaker 1: would have fell over the side of it. He would
Speaker 1: have just rolled for a good one hundred yards. He
Speaker 1: would have just rolled down this rocky you know, ravine
Speaker 1: a good hundred yards, so probably more than that, or
Speaker 1: he would have hurt itself severely. And we were in
Speaker 1: no shape to drive. I can tell you that. Trying
Speaker 1: to get out of there, well, we just weren't. We
Speaker 1: were trashed. We've been drinking for a couple of hours.
Speaker 1: I leaped up and I grabbed him and I said,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Man? And he said, did you see that?
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I saw something. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it was. It might have been a squirrel. It
Speaker 1: could have been a raccoon. I don't know. I saw.
Speaker 1: I saw something. I knew exactly what the hell I saw,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't about to tell him. I wasn't about
Speaker 1: to tell him at all. No, I saw what looked
Speaker 1: what looked like a gnome. It looked like a little person.
Speaker 1: It looked like a man, but a very very very
Speaker 1: tiny man, not a dwarf. This thing was only about
Speaker 1: eight to twelve inches tall. I couldn't believe what I
Speaker 1: was looking at. I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe I
Speaker 1: was I had seen that, but I was more concerned
Speaker 1: about my buddy calling off the side of ravine, and
Speaker 1: it's me trying to get down there to him, to
Speaker 1: get him up the ravine back into the car, into
Speaker 1: the hospital, more so than anything. And he looked at me,
Speaker 1: he said something, and the next thing you know, okay,
Speaker 1: I said, I go back, and I sit back down
Speaker 1: on the corner. I've taken my seat again. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: we can go back to our previous conversation. I'm going
Speaker 1: to pretend I never saw that. That didn't happen. I
Speaker 1: was I imagine that or something something other than I
Speaker 1: think I saw a no. Okay, that's that's how I
Speaker 1: addressed it. Well, it came back, and this time it
Speaker 1: was happy. It wasn't very happy that it had been
Speaker 1: assaulted by my buddy. I could look at it better,
Speaker 1: I could barely see it, but it was clearly pissed off.
Speaker 1: It was funny, but it was also terrifying because I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean it's home. I mean it's I mean it's
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in it's living room. It's probably got friends,
Speaker 1: and we are out here drunk. This is not a
Speaker 1: good This is in no way a good thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is not a good thing. My buddy tries to
Speaker 1: jump at it again, this time by the back of
Speaker 1: his shirt, and I yank him back, and I said, okay,
Speaker 1: go in there and talk to one of the other guys.
Speaker 1: Go in there and talk to them. And I sat
Speaker 1: back down on the cooler and I'm just like looking
Speaker 1: at it, look looking where it was, trying to trying
Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, Okay, how I need to
Speaker 1: sober up. I'm gonna stop drinking right now. I'm done
Speaker 1: the rest of the night. I've got to I've got
Speaker 1: to get my whist about me. I've got to sober
Speaker 1: up because I'm experiencing something here that that's that's highly paranormal,
Speaker 1: but also dangerous because, like I said, we're in the
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. We were a good hour to the
Speaker 1: closest town hospital. We were a good hour away from
Speaker 1: the right I didn't I didn't know what to make
Speaker 1: of it. We stayed awake all night long. Everybody stayed awake.
Speaker 1: The next morning, the son started coming up. That's when
Speaker 1: we got in the car and we drove. We drove
Speaker 1: back to my car, and I went home and crashed out,
Speaker 1: slept all day. I asked my buddy about it the
Speaker 1: next night if he remembered anything about what he had
Speaker 1: seen it there, and he couldn't recall anything because he
Speaker 1: kept drinking. He was lit up. He didn't remember any
Speaker 1: He literally blacked out and didn't remember anything that happened
Speaker 1: that night. He didn't remember any of the jokes. He
Speaker 1: just remembered he had a good time. Now, my buddy
Speaker 1: would be a wed, have would have substance issues later
Speaker 1: on in life, become dependent on things. I'm not so
Speaker 1: sure he was an alcoholic or not, but he definitely
Speaker 1: was always more prone to alcohol than I was, and
Speaker 1: other things, and I think I was just witnessing the
Speaker 1: birth of that in those days. Well, Okay, twenty five
Speaker 1: years go by, and uh, I'm living where I'm at
Speaker 1: now in Spartanburg County, South Carolina, and a guy goes
Speaker 1: missing from that same area where we were. They found
Speaker 1: the guy's car. They couldn't find the guy. And the
Speaker 1: guy was kind of a responsible sportsman. He would go fishing,
Speaker 1: let everybody know where he was going, he'd tell him
Speaker 1: when he was going to come back. He was responsible,
Speaker 1: He loved to fish, he loved to hunt, and that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. He just turned up. He was missing.
Speaker 1: People were out looking for him, and they couldn't find him.
Speaker 1: Nighttime came and they called the search off till next morning.
Speaker 1: The next morning, they found him on the Georgia side
Speaker 1: of the line. Okay, it's a good way from where
Speaker 1: his car was parked. It's a really good long way
Speaker 1: from where his car was part And the interview on
Speaker 1: the local news, he said, listen, while I was out there,
Speaker 1: I heard voices. I never saw anything. I never saw anybody,
Speaker 1: but I swear I heard voices. And that doesn't make
Speaker 1: sense to me. This was the news doing the interview
Speaker 1: of him after they found him, and he was sitting
Speaker 1: in his living room, you know, a little dehydrated. You know,
Speaker 1: he's trying to get his composure back from what he
Speaker 1: had been through. He said, I heard voices out there.
Speaker 1: Now that was like a double like a double confirmation
Speaker 1: that I knew I saw what I saw, that I
Speaker 1: heard what I heard. I saw what I saw, And
Speaker 1: that did it for me, because I talked to other
Speaker 1: people in a couple of places if they had ever
Speaker 1: heard about little people that lived up there, and they said, yes,
Speaker 1: we have. You can even talk to the Cherokee. They
Speaker 1: know about the Cherokee Native Americans, one of the tribes
Speaker 1: over here. They many times talked about the little people.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a myth it was it wasn't folks wore.
Speaker 1: It's a reality. I call them gnomes, they call them
Speaker 1: little people. There was no red hat, no pointed red
Speaker 1: hat or anything like that. It looked what it was
Speaker 1: wearing was the color of wood, the color of not camouflage,
Speaker 1: not green, but brown, mixture of brown. Different colors are brown.
Speaker 1: The hat was flat, it wasn't pointed. It was like
Speaker 1: something you see in the Lord of the Rings kind
Speaker 1: of thing. No pointed hats, they were all it was
Speaker 1: a flat hat, but it just looked. It just reminded
Speaker 1: me a lot of that. This was that The Lord
Speaker 1: of the Rings that come out to another ten years
Speaker 1: after this happened. Okay, but there were elements of that
Speaker 1: movie that kind of reminded me of that's I saw
Speaker 1: something like that out in the nature, out in the forest. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this guy, they talked to him a little bit and
Speaker 1: he said, well, I had a canteen with me. I
Speaker 1: basically fell and I slid down a ravine, which is
Speaker 1: exactly what I was trying to keep my body. He said.
Speaker 1: I lost my footing and I couldn't climb back up
Speaker 1: to to the top. I lost my fishing poles, I
Speaker 1: lost all my tackle and my gear. I just basically
Speaker 1: had to just sit down and just wait for somebody
Speaker 1: to come find me. And they I'm glad they did, because,
Speaker 1: you know, the next morning, after being out there all night,
Speaker 1: I was it was cold, and yeah, it was cold.
Speaker 1: It would have been very cold that night because it
Speaker 1: was way up in the mountains. He said, I'm looking
Speaker 1: I didn't have a hypothermia from being out in the
Speaker 1: freezing but I heard voices, and that was when the
Speaker 1: news stopped talking to him. They just basically shut him
Speaker 1: down and said, Okay, that's it. Now. There's a reason
Speaker 1: that that area of the state is a huge, massive
Speaker 1: area of protected forest. Nobody can build there, no industry
Speaker 1: can go in there. It's beautiful. There's nothing but trees
Speaker 1: and rocks and a road that was paved all the
Speaker 1: way up into North Carolina. And I've always wondered, how
Speaker 1: could such fun land that could be developed in the
Speaker 1: housing projects and other things hasn't been developed. That's because
Speaker 1: somebody knows more than they ever is told that's a
Speaker 1: protected area specifically become what I'm telling you tonight. There
Speaker 1: are other things that live there besides wildlife as we
Speaker 1: think of wildlife, deer, bear, cougars, bobcats, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: There's a reason that area is protected. It is and
Speaker 1: it's not just just wildlife preservation. They know that these
Speaker 1: things are there, and they don't talk about it. And
Speaker 1: I'm probably one of the few people to tell you
Speaker 1: about it. I'm probably one of the few people who
Speaker 1: even know about it. It's willing to talk about it, Okay,
Speaker 1: But there's just a lot there that it's just wild.
Speaker 1: It's a wild, wild area, literally wild, and it's dangerous.
Speaker 1: It's probably dangerous for anybody even think about building a
Speaker 1: house here. Fortunately it's federally protected, so nobody ever will.
Speaker 1: I just hope it stays that way.
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Speaker 2: I've had other people which have reported seeing little people.
Speaker 2: One guy in particular emailed me is that this is
Speaker 2: a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Now, emailed me.
Speaker 2: He didn't come on the show. He would tell me
Speaker 2: that he would go trekking around the appellations and he
Speaker 2: said he said he'd done these trails hundreds of times,
Speaker 2: and this one particular day he stumbled upon a group
Speaker 2: of little people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a group there. That's what I'm saying. There's
Speaker 1: a population there. It's not just I saw one little
Speaker 1: known there was a There had to be more. There
Speaker 1: had to be for him to be out there by himself.
Speaker 1: Not likely, not likely. Now here's the funny thing. I
Speaker 1: think what he came to ask us for, but we didn't,
Speaker 1: We did not oblige. He wanted beer. You smell it,
Speaker 1: so he could probably smell it and probably hurt it
Speaker 1: and saw the fire. He definitely heard the car coming
Speaker 1: up in there, and probably wanted beer. He just wanted
Speaker 1: a beer. That's simple, because what else would have lured
Speaker 1: him to us in such a friendly manner and then
Speaker 1: for him to get pissed off like he did, because
Speaker 1: at the beginning he was very friendly. He was very friendly.
Speaker 1: He wasn't aggressive at all. It was only once my
Speaker 1: buddy decided to charge at him and nearly broke his
Speaker 1: damn neck going over the side of the ravine, and
Speaker 1: I saved him from doing that because I jumped off
Speaker 1: of the cooler and grabbed him and threw him back
Speaker 1: like a football tackle. Okay, and the little god wanted beer,
Speaker 1: you know, if anything, that's what he was there for
Speaker 1: was beer. That was about it. And I got a
Speaker 1: feeling that he was he had friends watching from afar,
Speaker 1: and that's what was unnerving. Okay, I could probably go
Speaker 1: back up there now, if I had the transportation to
Speaker 1: get me back up there, I could probably go back
Speaker 1: up there, and I would know exactly what I was
Speaker 1: dealing with. I know what to take with me and
Speaker 1: kind of leave it at that. Just take something like that,
Speaker 1: leave it out there and just walk away. Because there's
Speaker 1: there's other rumors of fairy mounds all around the area
Speaker 1: up there, especially in North Carolina. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: places that are not native. They call them native barrel grounds,
Speaker 1: but they don't look anything like it. They're fairy mounds
Speaker 1: where the earth is just unnaturally mounded up and there's
Speaker 1: no trees or anything like that. And it's in a
Speaker 1: protected area. And this is that's part of the Appalachian folklore. Okay.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a nice fairy tale. That's a myth.
Speaker 1: Some things that ain't myth, and it ain't no fairy tale.
Speaker 1: It's real. I saw it, experience it. I never anticipated that.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever warned, nobody ever talked about it. They just
Speaker 1: kept secret. And like I said, I'm glad the area
Speaker 1: is federally protected nobody can build there because our area
Speaker 1: where I live, in, this whole general part of the
Speaker 1: country is this exploded of population. Houses are going up
Speaker 1: every single day, industries coming in, They're building all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff just everywhere, and it's is pushing them out.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say it, but it's pushing
Speaker 1: them out. There's not a federally protected land where nothing
Speaker 1: can be built or anything like that. They know things
Speaker 1: that we don't. They have the ability to do things
Speaker 1: that we can't. It's kind of even dangerous for me
Speaker 1: to really be talking about this stuff. But I'm getting older,
Speaker 1: my time is coming to an end. I feel why
Speaker 1: not start now. Go ahead and try to get get
Speaker 1: at least some of this stuff out there and some
Speaker 1: other people can relate. If they've seen something and they
Speaker 1: know something, don't be afraid to talk about it. You know,
Speaker 1: you lose a few friends, you lose contacts with a
Speaker 1: few people, if you lose your job by talking about it.
Speaker 1: I don't worry about losing my job without talking about
Speaker 1: it anymore, because people are going to judge me no
Speaker 1: matter what I say. I just know a lot more
Speaker 1: than your comming Joe. So it's time for me to
Speaker 1: talk about it. The whole story with that was very
Speaker 1: where the knockers begin. I know I've mentioned a knocker
Speaker 1: it warned me about, like I said, so many people
Speaker 1: who are dropping like flies. And this was long before
Speaker 1: covid okay, freak accident, freak injuries, sudden mysterious illnesses, and
Speaker 1: these things would knock and then like within a week,
Speaker 1: somebody would die. It became so regular. The knock and
Speaker 1: I'm going to knock on something sounded just like that,
Speaker 1: same pace, tempo level of knock for years. Basically, anybody
Speaker 1: that I had anything to do with, we're all dead.
Speaker 1: They're all gone. And I hate to say that, but
Speaker 1: I literally I have very, very, very few friends. I
Speaker 1: have absolutely no family left, no relatives that I care about.
Speaker 1: Not only do I hear the knocks and being forewarned
Speaker 1: that someone in your family's going to die. I can
Speaker 1: go back to when I was a kid. I mean
Speaker 1: I was just ten years old. Like I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: my grandmother lived down the road from where my family
Speaker 1: home was, so he had a falling out with my
Speaker 1: mother and I wasn't allowed to see my grandmother from
Speaker 1: the time I was basically five years old. Until the
Speaker 1: time I was ten, and the only time I got
Speaker 1: to see them because she was in the process of dying.
Speaker 1: I got to know my grandmother who lived just right
Speaker 1: down the road. I only got to know her for
Speaker 1: two months before she passed away. The one thing that
Speaker 1: she ever told me, she said, if you hear knocks
Speaker 1: on a door or a window at night time, don't
Speaker 1: open the door. Don't open the window. And I said,
Speaker 1: where did you learn is She said, it's an old folklore.
Speaker 1: But if you ever hear it, don't you dare open
Speaker 1: the door, don't you dare open the window. And I
Speaker 1: carried that for a good hell thirty years. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: never answered the door. Just earlier this year, I was
Speaker 1: talking to a neighbor another a different neighbor than the
Speaker 1: one I mentioned earlier, but when I saw further up
Speaker 1: the road, because I still I'm living on another different
Speaker 1: gravel road now, was talking with her, and she was
Speaker 1: telling me about how she herd knocks on her ring camera,
Speaker 1: but she'd look at her camera, there'd be nothing there,
Speaker 1: but she'd hear knocks on the door, and she has
Speaker 1: a ring camera and it'd be nobody there, but she'd
Speaker 1: hear the knock and she'd be watching the camera while
Speaker 1: the knocks going on and there was there's nothing there.
Speaker 1: So I know I'm not the only one to have
Speaker 1: this experience. She brought it up. She brought it up
Speaker 1: to me. Have you ever had this happen to you?
Speaker 1: So even that's real. They seem to have a concern
Speaker 1: for telling people, warning people that something's coming, something's about
Speaker 1: to happen unexpected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all very strange. Yeah, I've heard plenty of
Speaker 2: times about these knockins followed by a death.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it usually ends with the death passing over. And
Speaker 1: we won't even talk about the spirits that I've seen here.
Speaker 1: And cats have souls, they exist after We've had a
Speaker 1: lot of cats over the years, and we've had some
Speaker 1: pass away sadly, and they'll be dearly missed. I've seen
Speaker 1: him come back to escort one that was dying. One
Speaker 1: of our cats even got freaked out because another cat
Speaker 1: hissed at it one night in the kitchen when I
Speaker 1: was watching TV. He's our oldest cat now, but he's
Speaker 1: walking through the kitchen, just kind of slinking along like
Speaker 1: he always does. Out of thin air. He heard a hiss
Speaker 1: and I heard the hiss. I was looking right at
Speaker 1: him when he heard it, and he had the expression
Speaker 1: of like, what's going on? And he's looking into empty
Speaker 1: space trying to figure out why is there a hiss
Speaker 1: coming from empty space? That would have been the cat
Speaker 1: of the previous owner of the house that we're in now.
Speaker 1: She owned the cat. I'm pretty sure it probably passed
Speaker 1: away in the house. Even the old lady said something
Speaker 1: one night when we first moved here. She was apparently
Speaker 1: upset that the house had been vacant for a couple
Speaker 1: of years. Was laying in bed one night, the old lady.
Speaker 1: I could hear an old lady's voice right next to
Speaker 1: my head, really just like that, just obnoxious as shit.
Speaker 1: This really made me angry, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: because I'm so kind of used to experiencing weird shit,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a nerving But yeah, she was mad
Speaker 1: that we've moved in and decided to take over her house.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if she had died in the
Speaker 1: house or not. I was told that she died in
Speaker 1: a nursing home, but still for her to come back
Speaker 1: and be obnoxious and we'd fill the cat walking on
Speaker 1: the bed. None of the cats that we brought with
Speaker 1: us had passed over, but we'd feel little footprints all
Speaker 1: across the bed. Even after a couple of them have
Speaker 1: passed on, we're still on occasion we saw a ghost
Speaker 1: cat on walking across the bed sleeping. It'll wake you up.
Speaker 1: It's a trip.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: I one hundred percent believe that I have seen them myself.
Speaker 2: But we've done a few episodes where spirits of our
Speaker 2: pets have come back and visited us. But yeah, they
Speaker 2: certainly do.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Nick, thank you for your time and
Speaker 1: enjoyed talking with you.
Speaker 2: You know, it's always good to hear about people's experiences.
Speaker 1: You're doing a great service for people to get off
Speaker 1: their chest.
Speaker 2: That's what it's all about. I've said before. It can
Speaker 2: be liberating for the guests to share their experiences because
Speaker 2: sometimes they've never shared them with anyone before. And then
Speaker 2: it's also good for the listener because they're going through
Speaker 2: hard times strange experiences. It gives them something to relate
Speaker 2: to and in some ways how to deal with the
Speaker 2: situation they're in. Week after week, people come on just
Speaker 2: to share their accounts, and some of the strange and
Speaker 2: unexplained things have experienced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for your time and thank you for
Speaker 1: the inner no problem.
Speaker 2: Keep us updated. You know, if anything does happen again,
Speaker 2: all right, I'll let you know it, Scratch. I really
Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on sharing that for our.
Speaker 1: Listeners anytime, anytime in the future.
Speaker 2: Okay, you enjoy the rest of your evening and we
Speaker 2: will speak soon.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, sir, have a good night.
Speaker 2: Thank you sir, Take care and buye for now.
Speaker 1: Bye.
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