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Speaker 1: Truth and welcome to another Sunday show. Tonight, we have
Speaker 1: a very special show. We're going to be talking about
Speaker 1: all the missing scientists that have been either missing or
Speaker 1: killed in the last few years. Here. So, but before
Speaker 1: we do, Robert, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. I haven't gone missing yet, so that's
Speaker 2: the plus. I haven't you know, ended up in the
Speaker 2: Underground six what so you know things are really looking up.
Speaker 1: That's good. Well, it's a good thing. You're not a scientist,
Speaker 1: I guess. So we're working for NASA or any of
Speaker 1: those kind of things, because it seems to be targeted
Speaker 1: around those kind of people, the people who have in
Speaker 1: animation that you know. Yeah, I don't know. The conspiracy
Speaker 1: is just going wild, and I have, you know, a
Speaker 1: bunch of theories myself. But we'll get more into that
Speaker 1: maybe at the end of the show. Maybe first we
Speaker 1: should probably go over you know, what's going on and
Speaker 1: who's missing and all that kind of stuff, So we
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Speaker 1: we are separating documented fact from public speculation. We have
Speaker 1: to put this in there as a sort of a
Speaker 1: disclaimer a little bit because of the YouTube, and you
Speaker 1: guys get it right. So the cases are real, the
Speaker 1: disappearances are real, some of the deaths are real homicides, okay,
Speaker 1: but a single unified conspiracy has not been publicly proven.
Speaker 1: The House Overside Committee has formally asked add FBI and
Speaker 1: NASA for an information about these cases, describing them as
Speaker 1: recent public reporting reports involving people connected with sensitive US
Speaker 1: scientific information. And this is why this is so intriguing.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, these are all the people with
Speaker 1: all the knowledge and they're going missing or finding dead.
Speaker 2: So you know, all right, So.
Speaker 1: Tonight I'm beyond truth. We're stepping into one of the
Speaker 1: most disturbing stories. Let me just get into here because
Speaker 1: it sounds like there is did you leave us or
Speaker 1: something or what happened there? I'm right here. I just
Speaker 1: like I've just heard something.
Speaker 2: Whenever you feel like putting that up, these are the scientists.
Speaker 1: You I should do that right now, but you have
Speaker 1: something to do there now. So Robert is in charge
Speaker 1: of the visuals here and I'm gonna do talking. So
Speaker 1: just bear with us there, guys. We're just a two
Speaker 1: person team here, so you know, there could be some
Speaker 1: snuff foods, but here we go. All right, Yes, this
Speaker 1: is one of the most disturbing stories that are moved
Speaker 1: from the Internet rumor into official scrutiny. I believe even
Speaker 1: the President is looking into this now. You know, that's
Speaker 1: how big it's gotten. So there you go. Now, scientists, researchers,
Speaker 1: cleared personnel, people tied to the nuclear programs, aerospace, fusion,
Speaker 1: and advanced research. Okay, some are dead, some are missing,
Speaker 1: some cases are violent, some are simply unresolved. And now
Speaker 1: this story has grown seriously enough that the House Oversight
Speaker 1: Committee is officially demanding information from federal agencies about the
Speaker 1: disappearance and or deaths. So tonight we asked the question
Speaker 1: nobody seems to be able to answer clearly. Are these
Speaker 1: isolated tragedies or are we looking at a pattern? These
Speaker 1: are the questions that we're looking at here now. So
Speaker 1: let's start with the case that push the whole narrative
Speaker 1: into overdrive. Retired Air Force Major General William Neil Case
Speaker 1: is a Caselam, a castlan. You know what castlin? A castlan? Okay,
Speaker 1: seeing some of these words, I don't know which one
Speaker 1: because you'd be potato or potato, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But Caselam, all right, disappeared in Albuquerque on February twenty six, uh,
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty twenty six, so that was fairly recent.
Speaker 1: So this is one of the recent ones. Renewal A
Speaker 1: County says the investigation remains active. The profile release says phone,
Speaker 1: glasses and wearable were left money, while fighting roots and
Speaker 1: a wallet and a zero point thirty eight revolver were missing.
Speaker 1: So I guess that's quite normal for Americans to just
Speaker 1: you know, grab your boots, your wallet and your revolver,
Speaker 1: I guess, and head out to the whatever. I don't know. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's quite coming over there. I guess we were talking
Speaker 1: about this before the show. Here in Canada, that would
Speaker 1: look that real weird. You gotta what you gotta what revolver? What?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: What I mean, we don't have that here, but I
Speaker 1: guess in America that's a that's a normal thing to
Speaker 1: just grab that. And then he went missing. So this
Speaker 1: is a kind of case people do not just shrug off.
Speaker 1: A man with high level defense research background vanishes and
Speaker 1: suddenly people's are asking whether he's past mattered more than
Speaker 1: public is being told us the thing? What was going
Speaker 1: on there? You know before this?
Speaker 2: So did you know I looked into this guy just
Speaker 2: a little bit, and like the week before he went missing,
Speaker 2: they he went on a sixty mile bike ride. Sixty miles,
Speaker 2: So this guy was definitely in shape. He was fairly
Speaker 2: well to do. They had him and his wife, had
Speaker 2: several houses. They also, you know, he was a really
Speaker 2: smart man. I listened to the police reporting about it,
Speaker 2: giving the you know, the hodown on it, and the
Speaker 2: guy said, if he was here, you know, they said
Speaker 2: he may have a little bit of mind fog. That's
Speaker 2: how they described it. He was starting to get mind fog.
Speaker 2: And but if if he was in the room with
Speaker 2: all of us, he said, he would still be the
Speaker 2: smartest man in the room, right, So.
Speaker 1: That shows you how smart he was, right, So yeah,
Speaker 1: so that which is why it makes it so weird. Right,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't make sense, and this is why we're
Speaker 1: talking about it. You know, it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: So but we're gonna move on because he's not the
Speaker 1: only one, obviously, and we actually just yesterday as I
Speaker 1: was doing research for this, there's another a few more people.
Speaker 1: So there's more than just the eleven, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to that at the end. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: through all the eleven first. Now we'll take a little break,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go into the latest because there's
Speaker 1: something that just happened like a day or two ago.
Speaker 1: So just hanging with us there are people, okay, because
Speaker 1: we do have some new stuff to bring to the table.
Speaker 1: Even if you've seen other shows about this, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, just stay tuned because we got more.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and once people look at the case, they
Speaker 1: started noticing something else. He wasn't the only one that's right. Now,
Speaker 1: we're going to go into the new Mexico Nuclear cluster,
Speaker 1: because they seem to be in clusters into different areas,
Speaker 1: and so this is the new Mexico Nuclear cluster. Okay.
Speaker 1: Stephen Garcia has been described in recent reporting as a
Speaker 1: government contractor with a high level clearance at the Kansas
Speaker 1: City National Security Campus out of the US Nuclear Weapons Enterprise.
Speaker 1: He reportedly disappeared from Albertuquerque in August twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: after leaving home on foot. And then we got Melissa
Speaker 1: Caseis Casillos. I'm not sure how he has you know, potato, potato,
Speaker 1: how you say? These words are the last names, but
Speaker 1: tied to the Loss Alamos National Laboratory support work, disappeared
Speaker 1: in June twenty twenty five. Reporting says her family believed
Speaker 1: the disappearance was not voluntary, and public discussion around the
Speaker 1: case intensifies because her phone was reportedly factory reset. Factory
Speaker 1: reset all of a sudden. So that is weird, right,
Speaker 1: that's just not normal. Then we have Anthony Tony Chaves Chavez,
Speaker 1: a retired Los Alamos employee, also vanished in twenty five
Speaker 1: and is now grouped into the same wider cluster because
Speaker 1: of the loss almost connection and the lack of clear
Speaker 1: public explanation. This is where the story starts to grip people.
Speaker 1: One case might be tragic, two or three in the
Speaker 1: same orbit starts to feel a little like a corridor,
Speaker 1: as secrecy corridor. When loss almost nuclear infrastructure and missing
Speaker 1: people all start showing up in the same sentence, people
Speaker 1: don't think coincidence first. They think then we go into
Speaker 1: segment three, which is the California naw JPL cluster. So
Speaker 1: Monica Jacinto Resa disappeared in June twenty five, so a
Speaker 1: lot of these are in twenty five. It was just
Speaker 1: last year, well, hiking again, hiking on foot in the
Speaker 1: Angels National Forest. Fox LA reports that has been described
Speaker 1: as an aerospace engineer linked to NASA JPL and aerojet
Speaker 1: rocket dying work, and despite search efforts, no trace of
Speaker 1: her has been found.
Speaker 2: Yeah that I heard about her her story too. And
Speaker 2: she was literally hiking with somebody, got about thirty forty
Speaker 2: feet away and they turned around and she was gone,
Speaker 2: just like that.
Speaker 1: She was.
Speaker 2: They were out on the trail hiking. You know. Her
Speaker 2: friend yells to her, Hey, there's a turn coming up,
Speaker 2: you know, there's a turn over here, and she you know,
Speaker 2: they maybe they went around a brush or something, there
Speaker 2: was a cliff or well, she never made it to
Speaker 2: the turn. And he looked back and she's gone, just
Speaker 2: like that. And people he walked down the trail, people
Speaker 2: were walking up the trail. No, you know, she's not
Speaker 2: in between. Where'd she go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is even weirder than she was with the
Speaker 1: group of people and just disappeared someone in front of them.
Speaker 1: That's even that seemed weirder.
Speaker 2: Just when they got got out of site, just out
Speaker 2: of sight, you know, a few minutes, you know, in
Speaker 2: between you know, seeing the person and not seeing the
Speaker 2: person and then all of a sudden, well where did
Speaker 2: you go? If you're on the trail, most people just
Speaker 2: don't walk off the trail and down the ravine and
Speaker 2: you know, in the middle of nowhere, especially if you're
Speaker 2: hiking with somebody.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know, it's one thing if you're all
Speaker 1: by yourself hiking, nobody knows where you went or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, that's one thing, right, disappear. People do that
Speaker 1: all the time. Actually, you know the Pips you never
Speaker 1: see him in a game but when you're with a
Speaker 1: group of people and you were just right there and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden boom, you're gone like that, that
Speaker 1: to me seems a little bit even weirder than just
Speaker 1: somebody going on a hike, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So yeah, really weird. But then we move on. We
Speaker 1: got Michael David Hicks died on July thirty, at twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three. He's a bit Your obituary and memorial notice confirmed.
Speaker 1: He worked at JPL from nineteen ninety eight to twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, So that's a long span of time that
Speaker 1: he was JPL. What exactly is that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Either I jacked the bul laboratory. It could be. That
Speaker 1: could be, So if you guys know, put it in
Speaker 1: the comments, because I don't know all these technical things.
Speaker 1: I'm no scientists, as you all know. But he was
Speaker 1: there for a long time from ninety eight to twenty two.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a long time. Specialize in asteroid and comments. See,
Speaker 1: now we're starting to get into, you know, all this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and we all are expecting disclosure. So
Speaker 1: isn't it kind of weird that all these sort of
Speaker 1: scientists are all of a sudden disappearing and dying off,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, who would have answers to
Speaker 1: whatever narrative is coming with the disclosure. But anyways, we'll
Speaker 1: get into that later. We also got Frank may Wald,
Speaker 1: another longtime JPL researcher, died in Los Angeles on July fourth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, at age of sixty one. Public obituary
Speaker 1: coverage confirms the death, but sparse public detail around the
Speaker 1: circumstances helped few speculations online. Yeah, I guess, so why
Speaker 1: aren't they telling us exactly what happened to him? There's
Speaker 1: another one of those, you know, in the same asteroid
Speaker 1: and comment research. So these are the people with all
Speaker 1: the knowledge. Guys, Okay, we're going missing here, and this
Speaker 1: is why it's so bizarre and why we're talking about it.
Speaker 1: So here's why the public looks into this cluster JPL
Speaker 1: asteroid work, rocket science, NASA linked research, and then missing
Speaker 1: or dead personnel. That combination allowant creates suspicion even before
Speaker 1: anyone proves a connection. I mean, yeah, yeah. The moment
Speaker 1: you hear NASA, JPL classified technology and dvantaged scientists in
Speaker 1: the same conversation, the story starts writing itself, doesn't it. Yes, yep.
Speaker 1: Then we're going to go into segment four, which is
Speaker 1: the violent death, which is never good, but it does
Speaker 1: make for entertainment, doesn't that sometimes? But and then we
Speaker 1: got the case nobody can dismiss as vague and internet mythology.
Speaker 1: You just can't dismiss this one. So new No loree no.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say l O you are
Speaker 1: e I r o at.
Speaker 2: I think that you know the Loreno.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's about it, Airo or something like that. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry if I'm poaching your names. Guys, well you can
Speaker 1: look that up for yourself. I don't know how to
Speaker 1: pronounce it. Mit, professor and director of the Plasma Science
Speaker 1: and Fusion Center, died on December sixteenth, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: from a gunshot one. According to Mit. Mit later said
Speaker 1: authorities it didn't find the same man as responsible for
Speaker 1: Lorreo's murder at the Brown University shooting. It's the same man. Also,
Speaker 1: here's cut a gun. Same guy that shot the Brown
Speaker 1: University shooting, which I haven't really heard about, but want
Speaker 1: to be more of a smaller segment there.
Speaker 2: Same man. So the guy that's doing the shooting, shoots.
Speaker 2: This guy goes through the Brown University shooting and then
Speaker 2: kill himself and then there's no questions. He asked.
Speaker 1: This sounds like m KI Ultra, like with all these
Speaker 1: high profile shooting something going on, it sounds like the
Speaker 1: same sort of scenario. The sleeper cells is what they are.
Speaker 2: No, right, Brown University shooting was what happened on December thirteenth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. So it was just a few days
Speaker 2: before the government fire at the Brown University in Providence,
Speaker 2: Rhode Island, inside the Baris and Holly Engineering building, killing
Speaker 2: two students and winning nine others. The authorities later identified
Speaker 2: the suspect as Claudio Manuel Naviz Valentine, a forty eight
Speaker 2: year old Portuguese national. Rhode Island officials said there was
Speaker 2: responsible for the murders of the two Brown students. He
Speaker 2: was later found dead.
Speaker 1: So he so okay, So on December thirteenth, he goes
Speaker 1: into does the university shootings, and then three days later
Speaker 1: is when he.
Speaker 2: Goes and shoots his kind Yeah apparently, so why.
Speaker 1: Was he still out? Why wasn't he in jail at
Speaker 1: that time?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That seems a little weird. It's almost like to let
Speaker 1: him go so you can continue on. I don't know,
Speaker 1: these are all just my speculations, but okay, so let's
Speaker 1: just move on for time's sake here. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: very very.
Speaker 2: Strangely just reading what they got, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to make sense of it. People were doing this,
Speaker 2: They're doing this and on the flyer and.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. How do you do I'm
Speaker 1: not the turn off the phone? Oh man, why I
Speaker 1: got in here?
Speaker 2: I have that problem sometimes too. The thing is that
Speaker 2: these things is you you gotta wonder it was he
Speaker 2: supposed as Nina. Here's a question to you, just just
Speaker 2: off the cuff question, you know, because he was an
Speaker 2: m I. T. Scientist, guy with nuclear fusion energy and stuff.
Speaker 2: And this guy went to the university. Was my question.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if this guy wasn't working at the university,
Speaker 2: because a lot of these scientists work with with universities
Speaker 2: to study stuff. Was he working there? And the guy
Speaker 2: went there and and was you know, programmed to do
Speaker 2: this and probably knock him off, and then he wasn't there,
Speaker 2: so they kind of you know, Yes, that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: is our Patsy or our program robot guy you know
Speaker 2: didn't do it, So let's let him go and he
Speaker 2: finds the right you know guy. And then now that
Speaker 2: he's everybody's gonna look at this guy as as doing
Speaker 2: the Brown University shooting. They won't think about the new
Speaker 2: y'all guy at all. This guy will go under the radar.
Speaker 1: Those are connections that you guys can do your own
Speaker 1: research on to find out more about the Brown University shooting,
Speaker 1: you know exactly what happened that. We don't have time
Speaker 1: for all that here, but yeah, check out to see
Speaker 1: if you know that could have happened, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because that seems really weird that within three
Speaker 1: days he'd done too. I'm surprised that he got away
Speaker 1: with the with the university thing. Usually they usually end
Speaker 1: up either arrested or killed. I mean, they don't just
Speaker 1: take off so that you can go and do it
Speaker 1: three days later. I mean, that doesn't usually happen, So
Speaker 1: that seems really weird. But I'll let you guys, you know,
Speaker 1: research that for yourself and comment down below if you have,
Speaker 1: or if you some articles, give us some links and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, you know, to get more information on
Speaker 1: that but we're going to leave that there for now
Speaker 1: because we just got too many names to go through here.
Speaker 2: Guys, okay can see scientists for nothing, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the next guy is Carl grill Mayor, an
Speaker 1: astronomer at Caltech's ipax IPAC Center, died on February sixteen,
Speaker 1: twenty six, so that was not long ago. Cal Tech
Speaker 1: publicly confirmed his death and reporting tied to the fatal
Speaker 1: shooting in California. So there's another shooting. Unfortunately, it's too
Speaker 1: easy to do that down in America, you know, and
Speaker 1: everybody's running around guns. You know, it's you know, anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm there, are sorry.
Speaker 2: I says, that's what we do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those that's gonna change. That's that's the thing, all
Speaker 1: of these, all of these things or just leading up
Speaker 1: to changes in that department. But anyways, that's not what
Speaker 1: this show is about. These are not just mysterious deaths
Speaker 1: within paperwork. These are violent deaths of major scientists. The
Speaker 1: fact alone is enough to keep this entire story alive.
Speaker 1: Fusion astrophysics, top tier scientists gunshot deaths at minimum, that
Speaker 1: is alarming. At maximum, people see a warning. Most definitely
Speaker 1: that segment five is the wild card cases. Then there
Speaker 1: are other names that blur the line between tragedy, mythology,
Speaker 1: and suspicion. Jason Thomas, a scientist and pharma executive in Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: was reporting missing in December twenty five. In March twenty six,
Speaker 1: authorities set a body recovered from lake and I don't
Speaker 1: know how to say this. It's q u anapo wi
Speaker 1: tt quinnapovit. Okay, it is And I don't know how
Speaker 1: to say it properly. And I'm sorry if you get offended,
Speaker 1: but you know, I just can't roll my tongue around that.
Speaker 1: So was preliminary identified as Thomas. Early official statements said
Speaker 1: investigators had not found evidence of foul play, all right,
Speaker 1: but suspicious nonetheless unless Amy Skridge became one of the
Speaker 1: most emotional charge names in the Broader online narrative because
Speaker 1: of her anti gravity and exotic tech associations. Recent reporting
Speaker 1: include her in the same cluster, but the public evidence
Speaker 1: still does not prove she was killed because of secret research.
Speaker 1: Now there's no evidence, but it seems to be a
Speaker 1: little sus I mean, at best. These are the cases
Speaker 1: where people's instincts, emotions, and existing beliefs can overpower the facts.
Speaker 1: The truth does not help when every mystery becomes the
Speaker 1: same mystery, you know, something to be said for that,
Speaker 1: I guess, all right, So in segment six, there all
Speaker 1: eleven names. So again there is more. After I've gone
Speaker 1: through all these eleven names. Okay, we are gonna be
Speaker 1: talking about the two recent ones that aren't even in
Speaker 1: this list yet, you know, like schatching me. T can't
Speaker 1: even keep up with this story. It's just happening. It's
Speaker 1: happening in real time, like, so so let's say them clearly.
Speaker 1: And also there's two candles going on, you know, behind
Speaker 1: me here, and they're burning here for all these people.
Speaker 1: And so as I'm saying the names, I just want
Speaker 1: you to take a moment and think about them, you know,
Speaker 1: send out some positive vibes, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Prayers whatever to them and their loved ones. And unless
Speaker 1: we not forget, you know what I'm saying, even though
Speaker 1: the government's probably trying to make us forget, but we
Speaker 1: got here. William Neil McCaslin is missing, Monica Jacinto Reza
Speaker 1: is missing, Stephen Garcia is missing, Melissa Cassius is missing,
Speaker 1: Anthony Chavez is missing, Michael David Hicks is dead, Frank
Speaker 1: my Walt is dead. You No. Lorrero was murdered. Jason
Speaker 1: Thomas dead after a missing personal case call, Carl rilal
Speaker 1: Mayer was killed. Amy Eskridge dead and still heavily mythologized online.
Speaker 1: And I think that's that lady that had to burn
Speaker 1: things on her hands, like she was being targeted by
Speaker 1: something in her house. Like there's a lot of weird
Speaker 1: stuff going on. I think it's Amy that I saw.
Speaker 1: Was that? So she's clear. You can see your hands
Speaker 1: are all burnt. I mean something was coming through the window.
Speaker 1: So these people are definitely not nick target. You know,
Speaker 1: they finally got her. I guess, of course that's what
Speaker 1: they do down there. But yeah, this is why people
Speaker 1: are paying attention, not because of one case is strange,
Speaker 1: because the list now exists at all. Now the big questions,
Speaker 1: so what are people really asking? They're asking whether this
Speaker 1: is coincidence. They're asking whether this is social media stitching
Speaker 1: unrelated cases together. They're asking whether tragedy inside highly classified
Speaker 1: world naturally looks connected because the system itself is so paigue.
Speaker 1: And then they ask the biggest question of all, is
Speaker 1: disclosure pressing? Rising? Pressure rising? Is something sensitive getting too
Speaker 1: close to daylight, and our loose ends being removed before
Speaker 1: the public sees the full picture. And to me, Mike Drop,
Speaker 1: I'm going to repeat that lineing because this is what
Speaker 1: I think is going on. Loose ends being removed before
Speaker 1: the public sees the full picture. You guys getting a
Speaker 1: Are you guys getting the picture? That's what I think
Speaker 1: is going on. But let's keep on here. Now, let's
Speaker 1: be clear. The last SERI is not publicly prone for
Speaker 1: aliability reasons. The oversight letter itself describes the underlying public
Speaker 1: reporting as I'm confirmed, even while demanding answers from agencies.
Speaker 1: All right, Segment eights, what could the cover up actually
Speaker 1: look like? And here are some uncomfortable possibilities? The cover
Speaker 1: up does not always look like one clean operation. Sometimes
Speaker 1: the cover up is a fragmentation. Compartmentalize, compartmentalization. That's a
Speaker 1: big one. Silence, sparse reporting, hm hmm, delayed answers, and
Speaker 1: just enough chaos that nobody can tell where tragedy ends
Speaker 1: and superstition begins, suppression, sorry begins. That may be the
Speaker 1: real story here, not that every one of these eleven
Speaker 1: people were part of one identical operation. Although I you know,
Speaker 1: I think we can. You know, when they're all work
Speaker 1: in sort of the same field, you kind of have
Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, think that that's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: they're part of something, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: you know, as far as this whole thing goes, we
Speaker 1: have to say it like that because for liability reasons,
Speaker 1: allegedly allegedly everything is allegedly that's right, but that we
Speaker 1: are looking into national security ecosystems so secret that when
Speaker 1: people disappear to the public can no longer trust that
Speaker 1: they're even seeing the full picture. And that's the that's
Speaker 1: the problem. So where does that leave us tonight? The
Speaker 1: disappearances are real, the deaths are real, the violent cases
Speaker 1: are real, federal attention is real, and the public still
Speaker 1: does not have satisfying answers. Maybe this is a coincidence,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a pattern creative but life inside classified systems,
Speaker 1: Or maybe we are watching the edge of something much larger,
Speaker 1: where the people closest to dangerous knowledge become the hardest
Speaker 1: people to explain when they disappear. Whether the truth is
Speaker 1: or one thing is certain. Until the public gets real transparency,
Speaker 1: the suspicion will only grow. That's right. And so I
Speaker 1: think this is why the president is now finally gonna
Speaker 1: do something about it. Mind you knowing him, we won't
Speaker 1: get the full story anyways, right, He'll he'll say he's
Speaker 1: gonna give it to you and then you'll take it
Speaker 1: away later. All right, I think that's all I have
Speaker 1: here for this here. So I see you've got the
Speaker 1: whole map here, role or they're all spread out all
Speaker 1: over America.
Speaker 2: Well you look at this map. Yeah, it kind of
Speaker 2: spread out all over America. And if you really think
Speaker 2: about it, if somebody goes missing or dies, you know
Speaker 2: it's usually handled and a state. Now it's me going
Speaker 2: a state level, right, it's handled in your local area,
Speaker 2: Like like say it happens in California, Well that's a
Speaker 2: big state. I'm sure there's a lot of people that
Speaker 2: go missing or die every single day. And that one
Speaker 2: person is you know, just another notch on the belt somewhere.
Speaker 2: You know, the another are statistic. Well the guy went
Speaker 2: out hiking, Well he drowned, he is something. And then
Speaker 2: several years later you're not gonna say, oh, well you
Speaker 2: know this, you know another person. People forget, they don't care,
Speaker 2: and then they forget, oh you know, so they don't
Speaker 2: link anything together. But now since they're all happening, if
Speaker 2: you look at the dates all within a four four
Speaker 2: year period, now people are starting to put it together
Speaker 2: and go, oh my gosh. And well, one other thing
Speaker 2: I got This is one question I want to ask
Speaker 2: you is they were talking about people. We said that
Speaker 2: one guy that got murdered, and there were several of
Speaker 2: them that got murdered. And how many people do you
Speaker 2: know that actually get that have gotten murdered? And more
Speaker 2: or less a smart individual who's got college education. I mean,
Speaker 2: I could see if it was like you live in
Speaker 2: Chicago and you're a druggie and you got murdered by
Speaker 2: somebody drive by shooting. But to be a high pollutant
Speaker 2: scientist and get murdered, how many people you know get murdered?
Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately I do know some, but you know, and
Speaker 1: I think we we all do you know, murders are
Speaker 1: just you know, ramping up, you know, But no, I
Speaker 1: get what you're saying that. The difference here with all
Speaker 1: of this is that, I mean we every day somebody's
Speaker 1: get stretched in the States, I mean constantly, hundreds hunch
Speaker 1: of people get murdered all the time. The difference is
Speaker 1: their connection is in the tech industry. That's the connection here.
Speaker 1: This is why it's so weird. We don't look at
Speaker 1: all the other ones, but you know it's starting and
Speaker 1: we're not done yet. And another thing too, So if
Speaker 1: you were let's say we're gonna go with the conspiracy here,
Speaker 1: you can't be off of them all at once because
Speaker 1: that will look way too suspicious. So they started this,
Speaker 1: I would say, I think twenty two is it? When
Speaker 1: we start looking at the dates here, I think twenty
Speaker 1: two is the earliest, June eleven, twenty two with the
Speaker 1: amy there, So starting twenty two, which was not long ago, right,
Speaker 1: they're all just boom boom boom boom boom boom. And
Speaker 1: we're not done yet. We've got two more that we're
Speaker 1: gonna go into here that I just found out about
Speaker 1: last night. Okay, so we might have been going there,
Speaker 1: but let's take a quick break before we get into
Speaker 1: the last two. Okay, And we're gonna talk some more
Speaker 1: about this, so we'll be right back after the short message.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's see here. I'm gonna let's take
Speaker 1: that one down. I'm gonna show a different one here,
Speaker 1: So I just found out last night, and unfortunately to
Speaker 1: the people who are in this family are air space
Speaker 1: defense engineers. Unfortunately, his whole family perished because this was
Speaker 1: a plane crash. That's another easy way to take people out,
Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to compromise an airplane, you know,
Speaker 1: on especially if you want multiple people on board us.
Speaker 1: Happened many times in the past, and so it just
Speaker 1: happened a couple of days ago. This was published on
Speaker 1: the twenty first, which was on Monday. Now do we
Speaker 1: want to play this little video.
Speaker 2: Here we started? I guess that wouldn't hurt it. See
Speaker 2: here as we comment on.
Speaker 1: It site share, James Comer is worried something shady is happening.
Speaker 3: Listen, does appear that there's a high possibility that something
Speaker 3: sinister is taking place here. We've asked all those agencies,
Speaker 3: the Department of Energy, NASA, the Department of War, to
Speaker 3: all share information with us so that we can see
Speaker 3: if we can put it together and find any missing
Speaker 3: links to try to solve what's going on here, because
Speaker 3: it's very unlikely that this is a coincidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should stop it there, stop it a second. See, now,
Speaker 2: that's that's the thing. Even he's saying, well, you know,
Speaker 2: it happens, but this isn't just a coincidence that you know,
Speaker 2: we're putting we're starting to put the pieces together, you know,
Speaker 2: like you know, you can start to see the writing
Speaker 2: on the wall, like, hey, you know one did scientist,
Speaker 2: one goes missing, a general goes missing. Kind of Okay,
Speaker 2: well it could happen. You know, maybe there's there was
Speaker 2: something wrong with him. You know, some lady says, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna you know, there was a murder somewhere, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. But then you start adding them all up
Speaker 2: and it's nothing happens that random, just by chance, right,
Speaker 2: that's the thing.
Speaker 1: So this is another decorated veteran pilot, aerospace engineer, and
Speaker 1: defense researcher was killed in a plane crash in South
Speaker 1: Carolina last week, raising questions about whether the incident is
Speaker 1: related to the deaths and disappearances of the eleven scientists.
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, it's now thirteen confirmed because
Speaker 1: it was the guy and his son. They were both
Speaker 1: high up there. So James Tony Moffatt, sixty, was flying
Speaker 1: with his wife and sons Andrew and William only was Andrew.
Speaker 1: That was the other guy that was also in there
Speaker 1: when the plane crash in the wooded area near the
Speaker 1: runway of Union County Airport in South Carolina on Friday.
Speaker 1: The Union County Corners Office said the family from Huntsville, Alabama,
Speaker 1: was traveling from Raleigh Durham area of North Carolina to Huntsville. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see, did it talk about anymore about who they are?
Speaker 1: Authorities have not yet released the cause of death. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean plane crash. Yeah. Moffatt is the latest scientist
Speaker 1: who tied to aerospace research and NASA to make headlines,
Speaker 1: with the death and disappearance of eleven individual with similar backgrounds,
Speaker 1: raising concerns. His son, Andrew Moffatt, was also an up
Speaker 1: and coming researcher. At the time of his death. The
Speaker 1: thirty year old was a research engineer and scientist at
Speaker 1: the University of Alabama in Huntsville Research and Engineering Support Center.
Speaker 1: So the elder Moffatt earned a master's degree in aerospace
Speaker 1: engineering from Georgia Tech in eighty eight and previously studied
Speaker 1: experimental test pilot in the US Naval Test Pilot School. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just you know, so there's more than eleven. So that
Speaker 1: brings it up to thirteen. Now then so far. Now,
Speaker 1: by the time this episode airs, there might be more. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: So if I was you, if you, if you are
Speaker 1: a scientist of some sort and you have all this
Speaker 1: information that could potentially whatever, I would stay low. If
Speaker 1: I was you, I would you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like would I would be getting a little bit scared. Now.
Speaker 1: I know some people have made the connection with David Wilcock.
Speaker 1: I do not believe that he's part of this. Okay,
Speaker 1: I do believe that David Wilcock's death was a suicide.
Speaker 1: And if you want to know more about how I
Speaker 1: feel about David and what went on there, we'll check
Speaker 1: out the episode we did last week where we did
Speaker 1: a memorial for David. Okay, we talked all about David
Speaker 1: in that video. But however, I do not believe him
Speaker 1: or his autobiography guy that also died two days prior,
Speaker 1: which is another quinkydink that's kind of weird, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it has a connection with this. So we're
Speaker 1: going to drop that from this episode. So thirteen, so
Speaker 1: I would say, and unfortunately, there's probably more coming. And
Speaker 1: so my you know take on this is that they're
Speaker 1: taking them out before the huge disclosure. Why, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess we won't really know until the disclosure or
Speaker 1: whatever it is that they're going to come out with
Speaker 1: comes out to see, because these people obviously knew something
Speaker 1: that they don't want them talking about after that happens,
Speaker 1: which kind of tells me that, oh, they're going to
Speaker 1: be spinning some sort of narrative that doesn't go with reality.
Speaker 1: They're gonna try something. I don't know, what do you think, Robert?
Speaker 2: Can I turn in on this part too? You know,
Speaker 2: we talk about the you know, the world and the
Speaker 2: apocalypse of the world, the world ending kind of thing,
Speaker 2: and how they got these bunkers. You know, in the
Speaker 2: news it's been oh, you know, the war, the war,
Speaker 2: you know, all these bad things could happen. You know,
Speaker 2: ninety percent of the people could die off. Are these
Speaker 2: people that are the ones that went missing? If you
Speaker 2: exclude all the ones that die and then keep all
Speaker 2: the ones that went missing, are they taking them to
Speaker 2: them underground bunkers?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, we could go wild with you know,
Speaker 1: theories of of what's going on. Yeah, that's quite possible.
Speaker 1: A theory that they're taking them to go on the
Speaker 1: ground because a lot of people are moving.
Speaker 2: On the ground already because because think of it this way,
Speaker 2: the ones that that got murdered, you know, because murder
Speaker 2: is so common, you know that that happened. Especially aerospace
Speaker 2: scientists just happened to walk in front of bullets all
Speaker 2: the time or stuff like that. You know, you think
Speaker 2: they have science on that that thing and the bullet's moving. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 2: the point is is maybe they were offered said hey,
Speaker 2: you know, can you we watch you? And they said no.
Speaker 2: Now they're afraid they might tell somebody and then their
Speaker 2: life is extinguished. Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying. I'm
Speaker 2: just shoot, this is my opinion.
Speaker 1: You know, going back to maybe the first guy we
Speaker 1: talked about who left his wallet his glasses. You know,
Speaker 1: we both wear glasses. To me, that's weird. I would
Speaker 1: why would I leave my glasses? But then you said, well,
Speaker 1: I sometimes do, guy, because I don't need them for everything.
Speaker 1: So who knows about this guy how much he needs
Speaker 1: the glasses? Is it just reading glasses or does he
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So there there's that. But
Speaker 1: you know, leaving your wallet your glasses, I don't know
Speaker 1: what else it was a few things that he left.
Speaker 1: The only thing he took was his gun. Now, when
Speaker 1: I first read that, I'm thinking right away that he
Speaker 1: was planning on take himself out and that he went
Speaker 1: up to some cliff, did it there, and they fell
Speaker 1: into some ravine role. We'll never find him. That That
Speaker 1: was sort of my initial But like you said, I mean,
Speaker 1: who's to say? But then yeah, so okay, so let's
Speaker 1: say they were recruited and they were going to go.
Speaker 1: You know, is that how you would do it? Though?
Speaker 1: You would? Would you just leave your glasses in your
Speaker 1: wallet and then just take up with the gun and
Speaker 1: then go to the That doesn't make sense. You would
Speaker 1: think there would be a sort of different scenario on
Speaker 1: a disappearance, you know, like if you knew you were
Speaker 1: going to disappear and never see your love once again,
Speaker 1: when you take your wallet, when you take it.
Speaker 2: And again, you know, are these you know when you
Speaker 2: disappear like that? For instance, if I was I'm just
Speaker 2: putting myself there, I always do this. If I was
Speaker 2: the government, would I tell you when I'm going to
Speaker 2: pick you up? Would I tell you the day that
Speaker 2: you're gonna make preparations you're gonna it might be any
Speaker 2: time any place. He might have left all that stuff
Speaker 2: on the counter of the the you know, or just
Speaker 2: left it, walked out and said, I'm just gonna walk
Speaker 2: down to the mailbox down the street and get my mail.
Speaker 2: And they pull up and said it's time and whatever.
Speaker 2: Whenever he's gone, he's got his foot flops on and
Speaker 2: and you know, his uh whatever, and he's got his
Speaker 2: revolver that he carries with him all the time. And
Speaker 2: then he he gets in the car and and they leave,
Speaker 2: and his wallet's sitting at home because he went to
Speaker 2: get the mail for five minutes.
Speaker 1: Well, this guy, I think he was on a hike
Speaker 1: or something, so that's.
Speaker 2: What they said. He might have went for a hike,
Speaker 2: but he didn't take his hiking boots, and he left
Speaker 2: behind his phone and his glasses. He takes his boots,
Speaker 2: his wallet, and his revolver. Okay, so he took his boots,
Speaker 2: his wallets, revolver. He's going for a little hike. He
Speaker 2: goes down the road. You know, they pick him up.
Speaker 2: His wife, I guess, was at h went for a
Speaker 2: doctor's visit at that time, so you know, she didn't
Speaker 2: know where he went. And Obviously this was a common
Speaker 2: thing for him. Like I said before, he had went
Speaker 2: on a sixty mile bike ride the week before, sixty miles.
Speaker 2: So American, Hey, hey, who can ride a bike sixty
Speaker 2: miles in the audience here?
Speaker 1: I know that?
Speaker 2: Not me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously he was in a good shade. Now
Speaker 1: to me, as a Canadian and a European taking a
Speaker 1: gun when you that just seems weird to me. But
Speaker 1: he was an American. You know, you guys see it differently.
Speaker 1: I guess you bring you a gun everywhere. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But so to me that's a little weird, but maybe not.
Speaker 1: You know, it's all depends on the culture, isn't it.
Speaker 1: So who knows. Yeah, no, he could have been picked up.
Speaker 1: Well let's let's hope that that's what happened. You know
Speaker 1: that they bring they are gonna need scientists, They are
Speaker 1: going to need doctors and people with knowledge down in
Speaker 1: the bunkers. So I would assume a lot of people
Speaker 1: have gone missing that are down in the bonkers.
Speaker 2: For sure, because to this day, this day, there's no
Speaker 2: digital trail. The FBI was, you know, checking him out.
Speaker 2: You know, they're searching, the cops are searching. They had
Speaker 2: tons of searchers out there looking for him for days.
Speaker 2: And you know, how far could this guy go. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's not stupid, so he's not going to like, oh well,
Speaker 2: and he's not poor. It's not like, oh my life
Speaker 2: is in shambles. I owe everybody money. No, he's rich.
Speaker 2: You know, he's got a good life. He's got a
Speaker 2: really great job working for an aerospace company. You know,
Speaker 2: what work do you want? He ain't like that old.
Speaker 2: It ain't like he's ninety and he's senile. He's sixty something.
Speaker 2: He's this is good years of his life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, this is why we're talking about it,
Speaker 1: because it doesn't make sense, and it does seem a
Speaker 1: little sus you know. So yeah, I mean I would
Speaker 1: love to hear, though, what you guys think, you know,
Speaker 1: put it in the comments section. What do you think
Speaker 1: happened to that particular guy or any of these guys?
Speaker 1: You know? Do you think it's a connection or is
Speaker 1: it just conspiracy nonsense? You know what I mean? But
Speaker 1: I will be curious to see what Trump comes out
Speaker 1: with with this. I'm sure he's just gonna blow it off,
Speaker 1: you know, And I guess, well, you know what. This
Speaker 1: is how we're gonna You know, if he does blow
Speaker 1: it off or some cacamania something, then you know there's
Speaker 1: something to it. But if he actually does an actual
Speaker 1: investigation and he actually seems genuinely concerned and actually want
Speaker 1: to help, then I'm like, okay, all right, I'll give
Speaker 1: him some credit there, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: if he just does this usual Trump nonsense, then yeah,
Speaker 1: then you know, okay, you know, or he says he's
Speaker 1: gonna to do it and then he doesn't, kind of
Speaker 1: like with the Epstein files. One minute, you're going to
Speaker 1: get the EPSOM file. Next minute it's just a hoax
Speaker 1: and nothing to see your folks, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So he's done that, he did that with the JFK files,
Speaker 2: We're going to release it.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, oh no, that's going.
Speaker 2: Yeah the uf files too, We're going.
Speaker 1: And this is where my suspicion gears up, because we
Speaker 1: are waiting for him to release those UFO files. We
Speaker 1: are expecting. Full disclosure is literally what the movie is called.
Speaker 1: That's coming out in in June, okay, and I've heard
Speaker 1: rumors that it's all he's going to be coming out
Speaker 1: with it in July. So this is going to be
Speaker 1: the summer of disclosure. It's going to be the summer
Speaker 1: of aliens. Okay, it's all going to be about aliens
Speaker 1: come the summer. And so this is why it looks
Speaker 1: like they're kind of often all the people that could
Speaker 1: make be discredit the things that they're coming out with,
Speaker 1: I could maybe say, well, actually it's like this, it's
Speaker 1: not like that, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2: The thing is is I don't think it's just it's
Speaker 2: too I think you got it backwards. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's discredit anything. I think if they're off of these
Speaker 2: people or they're making them disappear, I think like that
Speaker 2: one gal that disappeared, she was the gal that found
Speaker 2: the molecular She was a metallurgist. Put it that way.
Speaker 2: I'll just sum it up for you people, because none
Speaker 2: of you are scientists, and neither am I. So basically,
Speaker 2: after I listen to all the mumbo jumbo crap of
Speaker 2: molecular this and that and Adams, and what I got
Speaker 2: out of it, basically she discovered a new type. She
Speaker 2: was a metallurgist. She discovered a new type of metal
Speaker 2: that wouldn't crack or break under high heat and stuff
Speaker 2: like that for the for the space missions that they
Speaker 2: were doing, so they could build better space engines, because
Speaker 2: apparently our space engines that we're getting from Russia are
Speaker 2: we're not getting anymore. And now she was the one
Speaker 2: that came up with this metal, this new metal, So
Speaker 2: she was highly intelligent, and she happened to be working
Speaker 2: at the same aerospace place and with that general guy. Now,
Speaker 2: if they knew each other or not, I mean, like
Speaker 2: I said, all these lines kind of crisscross. You know,
Speaker 2: they may have passed each other in the hallway or whatever,
Speaker 2: but he was involved in a lot of this stuff too.
Speaker 2: Maybe they were taken for their knowledge.
Speaker 1: So either that could be that's one possibility that they
Speaker 1: were taken to further their studies without being in the public.
Speaker 1: Or the other scenario there could be that she's already
Speaker 1: able now to discredit both Moon missions because anybody in
Speaker 1: the right mind, you don't have to be a scientist
Speaker 1: to look at those tin cans that they were preying
Speaker 1: around in that that could go through the space. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to get through the firmanent and when
Speaker 1: that thing landed, you never saw a little fizz like
Speaker 1: you know, how hot that thing would be coming through
Speaker 1: the atmosphere and then going into that ice cold water,
Speaker 1: there would be all kinds of just you know that
Speaker 1: old you know all that was none of that, none
Speaker 1: of that. That thing didn't look like it was warm
Speaker 1: at all. So she's one of those people that I
Speaker 1: can say, well, you know, that's impossible because this is
Speaker 1: how it's thought, you know what I mean, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So everything they've done up to now, these people,
Speaker 1: you know, if we actually sat down and have a
Speaker 1: conversation with them, they could probably tell me in their
Speaker 1: scientific words, why this.
Speaker 2: Is not just me.
Speaker 1: You know, I can see it, but I can't explain
Speaker 1: it because I don't have that kind of mind. But
Speaker 1: they could, They could finish my sentence but say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're writing now because this is this does not up see.
Speaker 1: And that's the kind of people are miss missing right now.
Speaker 1: And this is why I'm feeling that, Yeah, they're getting
Speaker 1: rid of them because they can come out and it
Speaker 1: proved to you that yeah, I know that that that
Speaker 1: what they said there, that's just no way and who
Speaker 1: knows what the narrative is. That's coming. You see that.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see exactly what Callcamami's story is coming,
Speaker 1: you see. And yeah, so I don't know again, you guys,
Speaker 1: leave us your comments, stumble all here what you think? Yeah,
Speaker 1: or to go with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, there's a lot there could be discrediting.
Speaker 2: But you got to think too, there's there's you know,
Speaker 2: this lady or this guy. They're not the only one
Speaker 2: on the team, you know, because there's hundreds and hundreds
Speaker 2: and hundreds of scientists and a lot of them, believe
Speaker 2: it or not, they're all compartmentalize or a lot of
Speaker 2: them are because you can't share secrets with this one
Speaker 2: or that one, and you know, and yeah, and they
Speaker 2: all signed these NDAs that they can't talk and look
Speaker 2: at this. Let's just look at the astronauts that you
Speaker 2: know went to the moon and then they really didn't
Speaker 2: ever want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then when some do talk about it, they're like, well, boy,
Speaker 2: why is that guy? What's that old guy that always
Speaker 2: just punching the reporters in the nose or something?
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, or what was that buzz Aldron?
Speaker 2: Did that buzz Aldron?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And then he comes out and he says really weird
Speaker 2: things like well, we went, but we didn't go.
Speaker 1: We we didn't go, but we tell you he can't lie. See,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. When all those guys came from back
Speaker 1: from their moon mission the first time, right when they
Speaker 1: said they went to the movie, they came back, they
Speaker 1: did a press conference almost right away, and they all
Speaker 1: look like they just found out that Santa wasn't real, right,
Speaker 1: They all look kind of somber. Whatever. Go back and look, guys,
Speaker 1: it does not look like a team that just done
Speaker 1: something like that. You would be so pumped. I mean
Speaker 1: you'll be like, yeah, you can wait to tell you
Speaker 1: about all about it. No, they look like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: didn't look happy at all. And then over the years, Buzz,
Speaker 1: we've seen numerous footage. Now, well, Buzz Aldrin, he just
Speaker 1: can't keep his mouth shut. He doesn't want to go
Speaker 1: to his deathbed with that lie he wants. And I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure there's gonna be he's probably one there gonna
Speaker 1: take out too, because you know, he's already sort of
Speaker 1: said it, you know, yeah, well we didn't really go there.
Speaker 1: He didn't sort of underneath his breath a little bit
Speaker 1: and whatever. But he's basically come out and said that
Speaker 1: they didn't go there, okay, And they've also come out
Speaker 1: and said that well, and they actually had a movie
Speaker 1: there are about two years ago about the moon landing
Speaker 1: and about basically telling you in that movie that, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we may have done some whatever, but the
Speaker 1: actual filming of it was done in the studio. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, what happened to I was filming and leaving
Speaker 1: the moon Did you guys just leave that guy there
Speaker 1: filming the guy? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like you just go back to shows like that were
Speaker 2: poking fun of it when it actually happened. Almost there
Speaker 2: was that James Bond movie. Remember the James Bond movie
Speaker 2: where he's chasing the bad guy and they run onto
Speaker 2: the moon set and they're chasing him through the moon set.
Speaker 2: Why do you guys do it?
Speaker 1: You know? I mean yeah, no, no, no, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1: And the guy that filmed it also admitted to it
Speaker 1: on his deathbed that yeah, he's James and so there,
Speaker 1: so they have to kind of come out with something.
Speaker 1: So they came out with that movie there two years
Speaker 1: ago whatever. It was basically saying that you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: we filmed it in there. So then so that kind
Speaker 1: of explains the saying that they went but it was
Speaker 1: filmed because they had to. I mean, there's just too
Speaker 1: much evidence, you know.
Speaker 2: And then the thing is that they come up with
Speaker 2: lies for the lies, because then I remember the one
Speaker 2: guy saying, yeah, we filmed it, but it was you know,
Speaker 2: we had to fill in the bits and pieces that
Speaker 2: they weren't filming up there. And then in case the
Speaker 2: mission went went badly and huff, we had to have
Speaker 2: a film to show because we wanted to be ahead
Speaker 2: of the Russians and we wanted to show them we
Speaker 2: could go to the Moon first. And that's why we
Speaker 2: had to film the moon. In case there was an accident,
Speaker 2: we could we could still show the and say it
Speaker 2: went well, yeah, yeah exactly. I mean they got that,
Speaker 2: they got.
Speaker 1: The business, you know, but you've got to read between
Speaker 1: the lines people, you know. So yeah, no, it's it's
Speaker 1: they're more or less come out and said that, so
Speaker 1: you know, and it's all about being first, you know,
Speaker 1: Oh we better rush this so that you know, we'll
Speaker 1: be before the Rush or the Chinese or whatever, you
Speaker 1: know whatever. So yeah, yeah, anyways, yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: all we have for this show here, it's just been
Speaker 1: just about an hour now, and unless you have something
Speaker 1: else you want to add that goes with the whole
Speaker 1: missing thing here, because that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Tons of people go missing every year, a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Well you know, I remember they were saying it's a
Speaker 2: sixty seventy one hundred thousand. I don't know, it's a
Speaker 2: crazy number of people. Now, I'm this is just from
Speaker 2: numbers wise, these are facts. Lots of people get reported missing,
Speaker 2: Lots of people that were reported missing are found, but
Speaker 2: they're never taking off that list. That's why the list
Speaker 2: seems so big. Individuals that do go missing.
Speaker 1: That's not a very good practice.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. You know, people will call up me
Speaker 2: and say, yeah, my child is missing and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Two weeks later they find them, you know, because they
Speaker 2: were missing at that time the kid ran away. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the list they just counted. Maybe they take it off
Speaker 2: the list. But the thing is is it's counted as
Speaker 2: a person gone missing. We don't have the numbers for
Speaker 2: the people that were found from the missing. We just
Speaker 2: look at that big.
Speaker 1: Number, that big number, without backing it up with well.
Speaker 2: That's right. So uh, that is one point that you
Speaker 2: have to consider with the missing people. Uh, the second
Speaker 2: part of the missing people. I want to touch back
Speaker 2: base and if you remember this from the NASA thing,
Speaker 2: and I seen a thing on that reminded me the
Speaker 2: other day when the remember when the space Shuttle blew
Speaker 2: up number of years back, remember that, and then shortly
Speaker 2: after that and to this day, they found these people people.
Speaker 1: I know, see that was.
Speaker 2: Somewhere they were alive, and they interviewed some of them
Speaker 2: and they were like, I just I just happened to
Speaker 2: have that name. I've worked here and I'm a professor
Speaker 2: of that's.
Speaker 1: My twin brother or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's they all had twins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know this is they're fudging all these stories.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know why, but I
Speaker 1: guess we're I think we're going to find the why
Speaker 1: coming up with the whole disclosure. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: for those of us who are I used to see
Speaker 1: in ears to hear is what it is, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and pay attention to what they're saying
Speaker 1: coming up this year, because I think we're going to
Speaker 1: find out why. I think why they've been doing this,
Speaker 1: Like why why lie to us so much, like why
Speaker 1: all this stuff?
Speaker 2: Like, so I'll tell you one one last one about
Speaker 2: the you have to UFO disclosure. When Trump comes out
Speaker 2: with the uf TO the disclosure and they just say, yeah,
Speaker 2: off the coast of California, we've seen another tic TAC
Speaker 2: and we got video footage of it. There's your disclosure.
Speaker 2: People will really debre depressed because they're looking for more
Speaker 2: than that, because that's what the last disclosure was. Look, well,
Speaker 2: off the ship of Nimts. We've seen this tictak and
Speaker 2: it was followed by airplane. We don't know what it was.
Speaker 2: That's pretty much all they got got. They got the
Speaker 2: Alexando guy, who is just another guy who's propaganda. He's
Speaker 2: on all those alien shows, on all those radio shows,
Speaker 2: of podcasts, everything from Joe Rogan to Tim bucktu Land.
Speaker 2: You know, he's on all the TV movie documentaries everything, Alexondo,
Speaker 2: Alexondo that and everything. Is he that credible? Really?
Speaker 1: Is he? Yeah? These are all questions that we have tonight.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll get answers. It all come in the future
Speaker 1: here as to you know, hopefully they'll find these people.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I just want to you know, reach
Speaker 1: out to the family and say, you know best a
Speaker 1: lot to you guys, you know, send them some good
Speaker 1: vibes and keep them in your prayers, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And hopefully nobody else will be missing Hopefully
Speaker 1: with us talking about this that they're cleaning in that hey,
Speaker 1: you know, the people are starting to notice. Maybe we
Speaker 1: should stop doing that, you know what I mean. Hopefully
Speaker 1: that's what's coming out of this. But yeah, anyways, if
Speaker 1: you guys have any you know, questions, you have anything
Speaker 1: to add, maybe some cool links that will go with
Speaker 1: what we talked about here tonight, put them in the
Speaker 1: comments section. I would love to see some follow up.
Speaker 1: Who knows, we might do a follow up show on
Speaker 1: this later on, you know, we'll see how this progresses.
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