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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. We are here today to attack Alison

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Chain's album Dirt track by track. As I mentioned in

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our last episode, we are here on what would be

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Lane Stay's fifty fifth birthday, what would be the thirty

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second anniversary of Facelift, and today we are talking about Dirt,

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which turned thirty this month. Guys, this album is awesome

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and I can't wait to jump into it. I'm here

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with my good buddy Jason Colvin. What's up?

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Speaker 2: How's it going? And drug free?

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Speaker 3: We did an intervention, He's okay now, and we have

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James Buckley back from Louisiana to help us again with

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this amazing album.

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Speaker 1: Guys, remember the first time you heard this.

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Speaker 4: Very much picked up the CD, I swear was the

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day it was released.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I could not wait to get into my old Toyota

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or sell out in the parking lot and slide that

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CD in, and I just sat there for a second

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to even drove away. As soon as I heard that

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first song come Crashing In, I knew that was gonna

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love this album. Man. Thirty years later, I have not

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been proved wrong.

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Speaker 1: It is such a fantastic album. I did not get

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it when it came out. I was a late adopter.

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I might have even had Sat before I had this album.

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But I was happy to come back and dive into

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the awesomeness that is this album. And then, of course

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I absolutely loved, loved, loved jar Flies, maybe my favorite

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of all of them.

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Speaker 4: We mentioned yesterday we'd already gotten a sneak preview of

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Dirt from Wood off the singles soundtrack. I had some

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Pavlovian salivation going on. As soon as that baby was released,

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I was ready to go.

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Speaker 1: So we are here on what would have been Lane

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Stay's fifty fifth birthday.

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Speaker 4: From a purely number standpoints, the most successful album Alice

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and Chain's ever had since August ninth.

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Speaker 2: It rolled the five million copy mark August ninth of

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this year of two Yes, wow, how about that.

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Speaker 6: Congratulations guys, And once again it was produced by Dave Jorden.

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Speaker 4: They've got a winning fan doing with the guy every

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track except would, which is the same one they had

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for the single soundtrack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you had mentioned that he was not an inexperienced guy.

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He'd done quite a few different bands before this. He

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really started to hit it big with Jane's Addiction and Facelift.

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Those were his ones to kind of emerge after he'd

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been doing it for literally fifteen years. I think he

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started in the seventies or something. One of the guys

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that he did an album did engineteering for was Herbie Hancock.

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He did Future Shock, which has Rocket on it. He

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was the in for that album, which I think is

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an achievement. I'm pretty impressive.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Bill Lasley, the bass player, is the guy who's really

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responsible for Rocket. He had to convince Herbie Hancock to

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do the the DJ stuff Bill Lastly, check him out.

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Awesome bass player. Throw that in there. Got turned on

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to Bill Lasley by again a friend of Kevin Davis's

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named Ron Stevenson. He was talking to me just this

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past week about how awesome Bill Lasley was and how

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he's responsible for Herbie Hancock's Rocket Fantastic, among others.

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Speaker 2: How about that, hey, before we get too deep in

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the production of this album, Yeah, let's talk about the

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front cover of this album.

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Speaker 1: So the cover art features a woman who's naked and

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buried in the crack of the sand in the desert.

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Speaker 2: That woman's name is Mariah O'Brien, although there was an

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urban legend that that was actually Demri Perote. And here's

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the funny thing about it. I never realized that model

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was naked until it was blurred out on YouTube. When

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I was trying to I'm like, why is this giant

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black box right there? So then I went back and

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looked at it. Oh, well there you go.

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Speaker 1: Well she's covered in dirt. So the cover was photographed

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by Rocky Schneck, and Rocky was sick Sheck s Neck Schnck,

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Okay Schneck, Rocky Schneck. The album was photographed by Rocky Snck,

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who also created the images. He went to his studio.

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Those mountains in the background are miniatures that he created.

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But the band was the one who said, we want

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a woman buried in the desert. We don't care if

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she's alive or dead. He went and found some pictures

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to show to them of different women, and one of

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the women that he showed, as you mentioned, was Mariah O'Brien,

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But this was not Mariah O'Brien's first album cover.

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Speaker 2: I know you shared that with us this week and

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we were very blessed by the front cover of Bitch

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School by Spinal.

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Speaker 4: Tap same she was an eleven.

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Speaker 1: She is looking good and completely different, looks completely different

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than she does on the dirt cover, but she was

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obviously a model, had been on a couple of album covers,

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was in that same year. Was in a movie called Gas,

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Food and Lodging. Haven't heard of that one, but she

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was also in Halloween the Curse of Michael Myers in

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nineteen ninety five a little bit later. Since then, she

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has gone on to become an interior designer.

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Speaker 2: Well, good for her.

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Speaker 1: I guess what happened when they had her come in.

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They had her put a wig on, then did her makeup,

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and then they put her in the crack that Rocky

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Schneck had built in the sand of his desert, and

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then they plastered her in, and then they commenced to

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take pictures of her for eight hours. And she was like, guys,

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I got a pee. I got a pee. And they're like, oh,

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we'll just slide a diaper, and she's like, I Am

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not going to pee on the floor. Yeah really, And

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so once they were finally done with her, we're done,

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she jumps out of that plaster like, she jumps out

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so fast it rips her wig off. As she's running

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to the toilet. They take some pictures of the wig

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and they use that on their later compilation album Nice.

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Speaker 2: I do know that there was some hard feelings with

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demriy Perrot on that model being used for that album

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cover because it looked so similar to her, but wasn't

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her anyway, she really got her feelings her. If you're

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going to use somebody that looks like me, why didn't

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you just ask me? All right, So on April twenty seventh,

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nineteen ninety two, they started work in the studio on Dirt.

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On April twenty ninth, nineteen ninety two, four cops in

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LA were acquitted for beating Rodney King.

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Speaker 4: Black smoke pouring into the sky all over town.

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Speaker 1: That's what Los Angeles looks like this morning.

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Speaker 2: That means that they started this album at almost the

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exact time as the LA riots.

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Speaker 1: They were watching it on TV when the verdict was announced.

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Jerry Cantrell was out buying beer at the moment that

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it was announced, and while he's buying beer, they attacked

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the liquor store he's at and start rampaging and rioting

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and looting in the liquor store. Yeah, he was also

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driving his Dodge pickup. Dodge pickup that he bought with

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his facelift money.

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Speaker 2: It's Oklahoma pickup, and he watched somebody he was stuck

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in traffic, watch somebody pulled out of the car and

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got beat up, and he thought, man, this is really

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a bad deal. We got to get out of here.

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So Lane, of course, has relapsed. At this time, during

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the La riots before they left town, He's sneaking away

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into downtown LA to buy drugs during the riots.

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Speaker 1: Oh what yeah, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: He had a problem. One of the engineers, his name

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was Byron Calstrom. He said, A city of Fire is

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the perfect backdrop for this album.

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Speaker 4: The band had clearly taken a different, slightly darker perspective

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with all the songs on this album. I read a

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quote from Jordan's who said that I believe that on Facelift,

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Lane was portrayed a dark world from the outside looking in.

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It's only later that they were right inside looking out.

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And he went on to say something had happened to

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that family. It was drugs, that was obvious. Lane started

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recording a week after getting out of rehab. They suddenly

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seem like they were living the darkness. They were only

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exploring earlier on that's what they wanted, but you have

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to be careful what you wish for.

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Speaker 1: I am fantastic quote. Yeah, the second half of this

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album side two of the tape. If you had the tape,

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it is Lane Staley's story about drug addiction. And it

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starts off like any drug addict, starts off where you

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are enjoying the high and loving the moment, and then

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it slowly as each song, like those five songs before Wood,

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as it tracks down, it is the descent into the

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depths of despair. It's tragic that he could see what

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comes when you do this sort of thing and still

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decided to go that way. Anyway. So you mentioned Dave Jorden,

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I will say Dave got the album's guitar tone on

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this one as well. We mentioned that he was he

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heard bon Jovie and so he got the wall for

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Man in the Box.

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Speaker 2: He bought the voicebox one hundred dollars voice box.

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Speaker 1: But the awesome guitar that you hear on this one

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is a Bonker Fish pre amp that does the low end,

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a Bonker Ecstasy for the mid frequencies, and a Rockman

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headphone amp for the high frequencies. So that is how

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you get this awesome sound of Jerry Cantrell's guitar. Now,

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I'm really going to rabbit hole this, and I'm sorry

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for doing this, but I noticed that there was a

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guy who was an engineer on this one named Ulrich

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wild Now, this was Ulrich Wilde's first job as an

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engineer on a professionally made studio album. Just a year

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after that, he would be involved in the debut album

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of a rapper we all know and love named Snoop

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Dogg called Doggie Style, and that same year he would

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pair up with the guys from Green Jelly, which was

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previously Green Jello, and do a cover version of a

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Geary Litter song called I'm the Leader of the Gang

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I Am. And who did they bring in to sing

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for them, none of than Hulk Hogan himself.

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Speaker 4: Yo, Walla be in my game.

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Speaker 7: My game.

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Speaker 4: Game, Wallap be in my game.

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Speaker 7: Yo wall be in my game. By game, my game,

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Walla be in my game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, brother, So I just had to mention all Rich Wilde.

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This was his first engineering job on a studio album,

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and a year later he's already pairing up with the.

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Speaker 4: Hulkster and from Yeah. From a sonic perspective, this album

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sounds amazing. The production, the guitar tone is so sick

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and it's so great. The drums sound huge. And Lane,

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I mean, I don't know how what percentage of the

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gross national product of Columbia he was doing at this time,

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but he was still His voice was amazing.

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Speaker 1: And I really was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned Carlstrom said that some of the things

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Lane sang Laane liked to go in a little alco

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a little booth where nobody could see him sing, and

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some of the things he did with his voice you

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couldn't even do with effects, you couldn't duplicated. He didn't

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understand how Lane pulled off some of these vocal tricks.

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Speaker 2: Well, are you ready to dive in?

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Speaker 1: Let's do it, man, I have enough talking. Let's get

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to some music.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. First song on the album, right out

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of the Gate, is a song called Them Bones.

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Speaker 8: Okay, hell over here, I'm laughing because I'm watching James

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on the Zoom video drumming along with this, and I

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can see him thinking, because this is this song is

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in freaking seven eight times, what the heck? Kind of

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out of the Gate rock heavy metal song do you

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do seven eight.

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Speaker 1: Time for the verse of the song and then switch

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into four to four time for the chorus. It's insane

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and it's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's an amazing riff. I don't think Jerry Kin

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with the time signatures, but that seven eight time signature

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gives the song such an uneven, jerky feel. It's a

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blast to play. I tell we used to play it

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and you mess yourself up if you count it. You

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just have to feel internalize that riff because I'm sitting

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there going one, two, three, four, five, six seven eight.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, it's so good. And the eye seems

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to come in at that point that it jumps ahead,

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like when you when you're expecting it to hit eight

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and there is no way. It just goes from seven

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to one. You're like, ah ah, you're jumping through it.

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Speaker 2: I love it that awe was improved by laying at

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the last moment when they were getting ready to lay

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down the track. Oh wow. And he was just sitting

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there and he's like, you know, there was that squeal

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of the guitar and he jumped in with the ah.

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Speaker 1: It's like you're getting shocked with the cattle prod.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This was the second single release September eighth, nineteen ninety two.

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This reached number twenty four in the Modern Rocks charts.

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And it is breaking awesome right out of the gate.

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Speaker 4: It's dark. I mean, the lyrics obviously deal with mortality.

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Jerich Intrel saying we're all it's getting it up a

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pile of his bones. But it rocks so hard you

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don't even think about that. Such a great way to

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kick off the album.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know who else loves this song? Beavis and

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Butthead love this song?

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Speaker 9: Yes, whoa Trials of Life?

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Speaker 2: Why do you think they call them animals?

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Speaker 4: I remember that?

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Speaker 1: And I will quote this is the coolest video I've

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ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 2: We need to talk about the video. So they're in

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that cave and they keep showing these weird images of

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like score killing insects and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about death. It's about it's about death. I mean,

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this is about the Hey, you're gonna you're gonna be

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dead someday, and so am I.

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Speaker 2: We're all gonna end up as a pile of them bones.

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Speaker 1: Cantrell said this was pretty cut and dry. It's a

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little bit sarcastic, but it's pretty much about dealing with

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your mortality and life. Everybody's gonna die someday instead of

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being afraid of it. That's the way it is. So

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enjoy the time you've got.

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Speaker 4: Just right off the bat, it's obvious and musically these

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guys had grown. I mean to start off with a

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riff like that. This was musically a steper moved from

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the guys who recorded Face Lift, you know.

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Speaker 2: For a guy like me. The opening part of the

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song is real heavy. Then it sort of lets you

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off the mat with the chorus and it's real sweet,

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just flows really well. I really really enjoy the song.

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It's great.

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Speaker 1: The video was directed again by Rocky Schneck, the guy

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who did the album cover Next Schneck. Rocky Schneck did

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the album cover. He directed this video. He had previously

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done We Die Young. All of those videos are available

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on Music Bank to videos.

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Speaker 4: This song is just such a jarring way to start

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off the album, but it hooks you.

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Speaker 1: It just the first lyrics of the song. Some say

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We're born into the grave. This is no fluffy album.

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We're here to kick some but love it.

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Speaker 2: YEP song number two on the album is called Damn

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That River.

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Speaker 1: So we got another butt kicker right out of the

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gate two for two. This song is kicking my boote

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all the way down the road. I love it.

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Speaker 7: God, damn.

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Speaker 4: Damn Baby, I don't damn my damn away.

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Speaker 1: This is another one that Jerry Cantrell wrote. This this album,

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Jerry shared some right credits with Lane Staley for the

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first time. He had written almost everything on Facelift and

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this one. Staley does much of the second part of

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the album, but this one is all Cantrell, and it

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was inspired by a fight that he had with Sean

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Kenney in which Kenny broke a coffee table over his head.

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I don't even know how that's possible, but dad gum,

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why not write a song about it?

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Speaker 2: Smashed a coffee table over his head. His head was bleeding,

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and that's where they came up with the term Damn

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that River.

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Speaker 4: Wow. And this is them more in their traditional hard

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rock heavy metal mode. But it's such an awesome song

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and it just comes charging out that steady, chugging rhythm

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with the drums and bass. I love it.

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Speaker 2: I heard an urban legend that this song was supposedly

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also about the Green River Killer, which was operating in

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the in and around the Seattle area at that time.

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Speaker 4: And another weird thing. This is another it's not quite

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as weird as seven eight. The most of this song

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is written in six or four time, which again is

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kind of an unconventional approach that sounds really cool.

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Speaker 2: I wish I knew what you guys were talking about

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when you say things like that.

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Speaker 4: So just instead the music phrase instead of one two

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three four one two three four five six. Then it

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starts over. That's a it's a it's a music geek thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay. As he said, when the drummer calls it off,

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he's not going to go one do three four, He's

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gonna go one do three four five six, And that's

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how you jump in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, awesome, So moving on. That isn't blowing me away now,

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you know, learning something new every day. Song number three

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on the album is a song called Rain When I Die.

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Speaker 4: Can brak me.

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Speaker 7: Take me? It's gone?

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Speaker 1: There's another six or four time, isn't it good?

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Speaker 5: Holly verse?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the verses are definitely in six' four, again trying

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something a little.

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Speaker 1: Unconventional all, Right so the lyrics to this one were

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written by Both Jerry cantrell And Lane staley about their respective.

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Girlfriends all of the band is listed as writers on

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this Song Did She Call My name throw back to

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Our Duran Duran rio album Where jason didn't know what

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a female orgasm.

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Speaker 2: Sound lies quits spreading lies.

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Speaker 1: Here that's All i've got on Well i've GOT.

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Speaker 4: I like this one as. WELL i like the way

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it starts. Off it's kind of chaotic and, disjointed little

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guitar squeaks and drum. Beats when it locks in that

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groove kicks. OFF i love this one.

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Speaker 2: TOO i love the vocals on this. One he's really

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really leaning on that gravelly rock voice that he's got

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just sounds so great on this.

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Speaker 1: Song the growl on Did She Call My name is.

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INTOXICATING i can tell. YOU i start listening to this,

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Song i'm, Like, okay this is pretty, good pretty. Good

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but when he hits Did She Call My, Name i'm, like, oh,

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brother this is freaking.

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Speaker 2: Killer and we haven't talked.

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Speaker 4: About one of the big musical strong points Of alice

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And chains are the. Vocals Whenever jerry And planes start,

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harmonizing it adds so much to these.

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Speaker 5: Songs such a unique.

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Speaker 2: Voice it really is, different And jerry's is a much,

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drier cleaner, voice but the blend that they have the

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blend of their voices is unmistakable and hauntingly. BEAUTIFUL i

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feel like this one could have been very successful as a.

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Single oh for, Sure oh for.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah we we have not had a bad song.

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Speaker 4: Yet they released what five singles off this. ALBUM i

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think it very easily could have been. Seven all, right,

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yep for, sure all.

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Speaker 2: Right song number four on the album is a song

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called down in A.

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Speaker 7: Hole this, so.

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Speaker 1: This song exemplifies WHAT i think is one of the

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greatest attributes That Jerry cantrell, has and that is his

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ability to mix acoustic guitar with, heavy hard rocking electric.

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Guitar he does such a fantas maybe the best at

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that mix, up and this song exemplifies. It it is

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so sweet and melodic as it starts, off and then

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when that chorus comes, in the guitars drop just rocks

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your balls off and then right back into the sweet

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melodic acoustic. Guitar love love love.

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Speaker 4: It the dynamics in this song are. Amazing it's hard

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to believe That Jerry cantrell originally didn't even want to

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present it to the. Band he thought it was too

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soft and. Sappy, yeah we talked about.

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Speaker 2: That WHEN i Think James hetfield Of metallica didn't want

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to bring nothing else matters to the band because he

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was worried about that being too. Soft because they were

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brave enough to do, it you end up with these

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two killer power rock. Balands we may.

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Speaker 4: Have to talk about those guys.

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Speaker 1: LATER i think we.

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Speaker 2: Will i'm sure we.

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Speaker 4: Will.

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Speaker 2: Actually this was the fifth and last single released from this,

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album Released august third of nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 1: Three so this song was written By Jerry cantrell about

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his longtime, Girlfriend Courtney, clark and he, said the song

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is in my top three. Personally it is to my

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long time. Love it is the reality of my, life

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the path That i've, chosen and in a weird, way

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it kind of foretold where we are right. Now it's

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hard for us both to understand that this life is

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not conducive to much success with long term, relationships but

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you can tell he had, deep deep feelings for this

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girl and it comes through in that.

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Speaker 4: Song, well it's interesting if you look at the lyrics,

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now looking back at what happened To. Lane you can

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almost interpret them in another way because it almost sounds

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Like laane is singing about his own, condition unable to

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get out from under the. Drugs but it's a beautiful

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song either.

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Speaker 2: Way the video is shot kind of in The california,

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desert and to, me it looks like that scene And

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terminator two When Sarah connor they go to her special

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friend in the, desert who's got that stockpile of guns

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underneath the? Sand there flash back to A terminator two.

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Episode you great Song Love this song beautiful reach number

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ten on The Billboard Mainstream rock.

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Speaker 4: CHART i remember reading one of the stories about the

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production of this. Album seeing a lot of the, Songs

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lane did what they call stacking his. Vocals he would

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record one vocal part and then change it the note

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just enough to make it harmonize with it and just

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like sometimes multiple. Tracks they said he was so good

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at doing. That he could always make each vocal take

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a little different from the other, one but they would

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all stack so well and harmonize.

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Speaker 2: Together this is the first time we See Mike inez

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in one of the. Video, yeah they had to Fire

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Mike starr Because mike was jocking for monetary, reasons trying

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to write more of the, songs and he was scalping

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Those Van halen tickets we talked.

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Speaker 1: About and he was blitzed out of his.

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Speaker 2: Mind he was having major drug, problems and so they

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Fired Mike.

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Speaker 1: Starr, YEAH i mean their their take on it was

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he wanted to spend more time at home and not

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was not focused on the. Band but he just said

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that was. Bull it kicked me out BECAUSE i was on.

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Speaker 4: Drugs you, know this song has been covered several. Times

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Ryan adams is kind of An americana guy covered in

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a few years back and it's very. Good but it

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was also covered By Bronson.

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Speaker 2: ARROYO i love that that.

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Speaker 1: Is it was.

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Speaker 4: Little Old Red sox pitcher from their star years back

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in the early two thousands in an album and this

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is when the songs.

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Speaker 2: He Covered Bronson arroyo with the high leg kick when.

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Speaker 1: Pitching you guys are getting excited about the baseball cover

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AND i have never heard of The Ryan adams. COVER

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i absolutely love, Right, adam you will love this.

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Speaker 4: ONE i promise it's.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic oh, Man, Yeah Ryan adams one of my. FAVORITES

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i gotta check that.

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Speaker 2: Out how About Brian adams covering.

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Speaker 1: It, dude why you gotta go? There why do you

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have to do?

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Speaker 2: That Forget Ryan, Adams let me, Go Brian, adams shut?

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Up all, right great, song we all love. It all,

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Right hit stop on your tape, player kick it, out

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flip it over for side to starting off with a

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song Called Sick Many.

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Speaker 4: WHAT i love. It it starts off with this heavy travel

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Feel Sean kenny uses a. Lot of. Course the, PRODUCER

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i Think carlstrom was his, name said that they intentionally

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wanted the song to speed up as it went, along

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But Sean kenney didn't play to a click track or a.

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Metronol he just went in and started, bashing so they

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had to edit out. It said That jorden And carlston

475
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,440
spent a long time editing, out like about a measure

476
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,480
and a half of that cutt and, paste cutting, paste

477
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,519
because they didn't have all the fancy grid mapping and

478
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:17,519
pro tools we have, now so it's a lot more

479
00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:18,400
complicated back.

480
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: Then that's interesting if you described it as. Tribal WHEN

481
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,400
i hear, It i'm thinking. Industrial i'm thinking like nine inch.

482
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:27,440
Nails there's so much going on with, it so fast

483
00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:30,400
that to, me it's got the industrial rock sound to.

484
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 4: It And i'm a huge industrial, fan SO i won't

485
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,200
even bother arguing with you on that. One i'm absolutely.

486
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,839
Speaker 1: Right, Well and the song came together Because lane went

487
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,480
To jerry and, said, listen, MAN i want you to

488
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:46,319
write me the sickest, tune the, sickest darkest and heaviest

489
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:55,440
thing you can. Write, Yeah and that's how the song

490
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,880
came to. Be and it's obviously super, heavy LIKE i,

491
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,799
said feels industrial that the beat is extremely fast and

492
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,400
you get this very heavy guitar and bass coming in

493
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,920
to follow. It his lyrics are strong and in your,

494
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,559
face and then it's got this break in it where

495
00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:13,720
it breaks down. Here it is right. Here now as

496
00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:15,599
you listen to, THIS i want you, To, JASON i

497
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:18,519
want you to think back to Our Motley crue Episode

498
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:21,160
Doctor Feel, good where we talked about how they had

499
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,759
a song that sounded exactly like A beatles. Song The

500
00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:26,839
beatles song was Called She's So. Heavy we listened To

501
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:40,160
She's So heavy right? Now, okay now listen to the

502
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:48,640
breakdown In Sick man Or rape.

503
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: Interesting, OKAY i think you're out of something, THERE i

504
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,039
do hear? It d you nailed.

505
00:27:58,039 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 4: It.

506
00:27:58,559 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: NOW i wouldn't have thought that on my.

507
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,319
Speaker 1: Own but what was the Moy this.

508
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,599
Speaker 2: Is called A slice Of Your pie off Of Doctor Feel.

509
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,319
Good the one Thing i've got on this? One you

510
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,240
ready for? This this was written By lane while he

511
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,079
was in. Rehab, HEY i do have. ONE i do

512
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,880
actually have one other thing on this. One this was

513
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,160
the song they were working on when The la riots

514
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,079
started and they had to shut down production and get

515
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:19,720
out of, town.

516
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 4: And they spent four or five days up in The

517
00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:23,559
Joshua tree desert and then wait for it to all die.

518
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: Down, yep that's exactly.

519
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:27,599
Speaker 4: Right remember WHAT d said. Earlier, Though this does kick

520
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,519
Off Side, too which is almost a narrative about how

521
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,160
the drug use started out as something that's playing around

522
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,000
with enjoying and then gradually degenerates into a living.

523
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:38,079
Speaker 2: Hell before we get to that living, hell we got

524
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:39,680
to talk about the next song on the. Album so

525
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,359
the second song On Side too is my favorite song

526
00:28:42,400 --> 00:29:08,359
on the entire. Album it's Called. Rooster But i'll stop.

527
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:10,160
It we'll listen to every song all the way through.

528
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: THAT i, mean, yeah this this song is what caused

529
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,480
me to buy this.

530
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:16,599
Speaker 4: Album this album has an. Anthem this is.

531
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,519
Speaker 1: It, Yeah So Boggy, Depot boggy Friggin. Depot Boggy depot

532
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,680
is a town In oklahoma and what is now A Toka.

533
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:29,559
County it was a part of The Indian territory and

534
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,880
was a significant trading. City it's not just a ghost,

535
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,440
town like there's nothing left but a. Sign And Boggy

536
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,200
depot is Where Jerry Cantrell senior was born and. Raised

537
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,400
and when you watch the video To rooster and you

538
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,559
see them hunting out in the, woods it's over there

539
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:49,960
in A Toka, County. Oklahoma. Yep that was.

540
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: Also the name Of Jerry cantrael's first solo, Album There You.

541
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: Go, Yep Boggy.

542
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,799
Speaker 2: Depot this song is. Spectacular this was Huge summer of ninety.

543
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,000
Three one of the other songs that summer that was

544
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,440
it's huge As plush By Stone Tembo, pilots which we're

545
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,480
going to talk about in the next couple of. WEEKS

546
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,559
i love this. Song it's so beautiful and it's about

547
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:09,119
his dad In. Vietnam.

548
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,559
Speaker 1: YEAH i had mentioned in our last episode that his

549
00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:14,440
first memory was at three years old when his dad

550
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,720
came home from two tours In. Vietnam and then four

551
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,680
years after, that his parents had gotten divorced and moved,

552
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,559
away and he did not have a close relationship with his,

553
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,400
dad and this was largely because of his experience In.

554
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:31,559
Vietnam it just became hard to get along in life after.

555
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:34,440
That out of his, frustration he, Decided i'm going to

556
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:36,680
try to think about this from his, perspective and he

557
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,839
started thinking about what it would have been like to

558
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,319
go through The Vietnam, war to see your buddies die

559
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:58,359
in your, hands and at that point the song just

560
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,680
kind of came out of. It never talked to my

561
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:04,279
dad about, this you, know is typical with Most vietnam.

562
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:07,519
Vets they don't talk about the. War and so he

563
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,599
wrote this song from the perspective of his dad without

564
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:14,079
any input from his, dad and ultimately his dad's. Songs

565
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,640
Jerry senior saw him perform only one, show but when

566
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,440
this song started, playing he could see his dad back

567
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,000
by the soundboard watching and the end of the, song

568
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:27,799
his dad was holding his big stetson cowboy hat up

569
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,440
in the air and the tears were streaming down his.

570
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:31,960
Face love, It it's.

571
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: FANTASTIC i remember reading while they were shooting the video

572
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:36,359
for the producer why actually wanted to go to the

573
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880
talk to his. Dad so his dad just started opening

574
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,000
up and talking to the producer and telling things about

575
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,319
his experience and non that he never mentioned To jerry

576
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,359
or anybody. Else so that was just really eye opening To.

577
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,759
Speaker 1: Jerry, yeah as we, said they filmed this in a.

578
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,359
Token this Was jerry's brother's property that they filmed these parts.

579
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:54,440
On he was inside a house when he was given that,

580
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,599
interview and in the, video in the extended version of the,

581
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,079
video you have a little bit of that interview that,

582
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,839
happens and That's jerry's dad talking and there is a

583
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,559
part towards the end of the rather short statement where

584
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:11,000
he said it was a weird. Thing it was a sad.

585
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:14,200
THING i just wouldn't want to have anybody else go through.

586
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,920
That and then he, stops but the camera stays on

587
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,359
him and you can kind of see him. Searching it's

588
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,240
like the memories are starting to pour in and you

589
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,079
can see him pulling back those. Tears this, big old

590
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:26,920
tough cowboy From oklahoma trying to make it through this

591
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,640
moment where he's remembering everything that he had to go,

592
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,000
through and it is it's heartbreaking when you know the.

593
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: Background, Yep i've got a couple of stories on, This,

594
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,079
OKAY i find these two at least. Lighthearted all. Right

595
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,039
so they're In, la they're recording the. Album they're out

596
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,920
late partying every, Night like we, said they're At tropicana

597
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,160
half the. Time but one day they're in the studio

598
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:51,079
and all the instruments are ready to. Go lane's, there everyone's,

599
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:53,920
there ready to, go but there's no. Shot can't Find.

600
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,480
Sean Where's? Sean and If lane's, there you better be

601
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:58,519
ready Because, LANE i mean a little bit hit or

602
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:00,720
miss a little bit, ofit or miss exactly. Right so

603
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:03,559
the producer was, mad and he just finally just, said let's.

604
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:06,079
It we're calling it. Today everybody go. Home, well at

605
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,839
that exact, Moment sean comes flying in the door and

606
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,119
his hair is like nappy and matted from the night,

607
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,200
before and he smells like, beer and you know he's

608
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:14,160
obviously been out.

609
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,759
Speaker 1: Partying he's got some glitter on his, face.

610
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: He smells like smoke and. Perfume and he's, like, no, no,

611
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:21,960
No i'm.

612
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: Ready i'm.

613
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: THERE i, mean let's do, this you, Know and they're, like,

614
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:27,359
nope we've already called. It just freaking go. Home we'll

615
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,319
try again. Tomorrow and he's, Like i'll tell you, what

616
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,559
just let me play one. Song and so he's, like,

617
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,440
fine we'll do one, song and so they go Through

618
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,079
rooster and that is the drone track that you have

619
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,079
from that night of party and From, sean.

620
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 4: And it's a perfect drum, track even with the little

621
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,880
military role type part in the. Middle it feels like

622
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,119
you worked a lot of long time putting that together

623
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,599
instead of just showing up semi drunk and hitting.

624
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,599
Speaker 2: Play there you.

625
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 5: Go it's.

626
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,279
Speaker 1: Fantastic and this was one of the songs that they

627
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,960
had demoed whenever they were recording wood for the single.

628
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:59,359
Soundtrack but it's not they didn't use that. Demo they

629
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,000
obviously they re recorded the whole. Thing jerry said he

630
00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:04,759
felt like they had captured something on the demo that

631
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:06,559
they did not quite get in the. Song BUT i

632
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:09,159
can't even see how that's. Possible as awesome as this is.

633
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: On, you here's my other story with. This you're ready for.

634
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:11,639
Speaker 1: This, yeah the.

635
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: Producer's working on the mix For rooster And lane's there

636
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,360
one night and he's got a guy with, it and

637
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,280
the producer clearly knows it's drug.

638
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: Dealer why would you think? That?

639
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,039
Speaker 2: Hell you. Know so he's, like, Well lane's, Here, Hey,

640
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,239
lane come in, here AND i want to play a

641
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,079
mix Of rooster for you and see what you. Think

642
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,239
So lane's like all, right and so him and his

643
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,000
friend come in there and he's playing the mix and

644
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:36,119
he stops it and he, says, well what do you?

645
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,840
Think and Before lane can even, speak his drug dealer buddy,

646
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,840
GOES i think you should And lane turns around to

647
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,239
him and says shut. Up and Before lane can even do,

648
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,239
Anything Dave jorden is in that guy's, face, going who

649
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,079
the e f for? You what the e f are

650
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:52,559
you doing? Here get out of my studio and don't

651
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:54,840
ever come. Back and then he turns To lane and,

652
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,039
says don't bring these scumbags in. Here we're. Working i'm a,

653
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:00,639
professional you're a. Professional get these guys out of. Here

654
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:03,079
and it's just one of those moments that you know

655
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:04,719
the recording of this album Pat.

656
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 4: YEAH i read an interview With jordan's later where they

657
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,960
asked him about, that and he Said lane got mad

658
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000
at him sometimes because he would Tell lane and he

659
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,119
was high and quit showing. Up. HIH i was paid

660
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:15,119
to record the album not to Be lane's best.

661
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:16,519
Speaker 1: Friend, yeah that's all.

662
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: Right this is the last video to Feature Mike. Starr

663
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,159
by the, way this is the fourth single Released march,

664
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,800
fifteenth nineteen ninety, three and for, me this is just

665
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,840
Huge summer of ninety. Three he was in Butt Heead

666
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,639
love the song as. Well, gentlemen my name Is Sergeant Dick.

667
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: Leaky some call me The.

668
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 7: Roosters, wow, yeah they come to snuff The rooster.

669
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 4: Four.

670
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: Songs. Cool, yeah, man heves in Butt Heead we're the

671
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,719
best back in the. Day, man all, right have we

672
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,119
done with that?

673
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: ONE i hate to be a beautiful? Song love, it love?

674
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: It top, notch best song on the.

675
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: Album all.

676
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: Right next song on the album is a song Called. Junkhead,

677
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,840
okay this is when you start to lose me a little.

678
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,039
Bit we're sliding into the drug. Culture this is WHERE

679
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:12,480
i start to bail just a little.

680
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 4: Bit we talked earlier about how several of these songs

681
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,960
chart the evolution of someone turning into a serious, junkie

682
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,719
and this clearly is an early stage in. That BUT

683
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,559
i remember reading Where, carlstrom one of the, engineers said

684
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:25,800
that he was only recently, sober and he was kind

685
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,760
of worried about being around the sheer intensity of all

686
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,159
these dark lyrics about drug.

687
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: Abuse the chorus that is repeated over and over is

688
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:37,199
what's my drug of? Choice but what have you? GOT

689
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,119
i don't go broke AND i do it a. Lot

690
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,159
this is the beginning of THE i can do WHATEVER

691
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:46,480
i want And i'm bulletproof stage of doing. Drugs and

692
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,480
if you think this is glorifying, it then you're. Right

693
00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:51,679
it's just A you got to remember to listen to

694
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,800
the rest of the songs on the. Album staley, Said he's,

695
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,480
like the last THING i wanted was for people to

696
00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:59,519
THINK i was trying to glorify. Drugs BUT i would

697
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,599
have guys come up to me after a show and

698
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:04,079
they would like give me the thumbs up and Say i'm,

699
00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:06,239
High and that's the last THING i.

700
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 4: Wanted jerry said an, INTERVIEW i think it was in

701
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,000
twenty thirteen that was more of a cautionary. Intent we

702
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:14,079
said it was more of a warning than anything, else

703
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:16,519
rather than, hey come and check this. Out it's. Great

704
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:18,280
we were talking about what was going on with us

705
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,119
at the, time SO i don't know what the, time

706
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:22,239
but later on he's gone back and said, that, look

707
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,360
we didn't mean this to encourage this sort of. Behavior

708
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,400
we meant it as a. Warning.

709
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah so this is the first song on that five song,

710
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:33,559
run that story arc That Jerry cantrell talks about, junkhead, dirt,

711
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:36,519
godsmack hate To, feel an angry. Chair so this is

712
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:38,840
the euphoria before the crash and before.

713
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: Death so this takes us on to song number three

714
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,800
on side to title track for THE cd or Tape

715
00:37:45,840 --> 00:38:02,840
If You Will. Dirt, okay this is definitely bringing back

716
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,679
the wah that we had For man in A. Box. Wow, yeah,

717
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,159
right little Bon jovi. Tribute way back. Again here we.

718
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:14,079
GO i, SAID i was listening to this today is

719
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:16,079
the first. TIME i, Mean i've heard the song how many,

720
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:18,280
times but for the first time TODAY i was listening to.

721
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,519
IT i was, like this sounds like A metallica. Song

722
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,440
it's not exactly The metallica, song but it's pretty. Close

723
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,280
and SO i turned on and we'll play it for

724
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,719
you here WHEREVER i may. Roam and if you listen

725
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,280
to the second to twenty seconds of this, song sounds

726
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,239
like maybe they borrowed.

727
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:48,039
Speaker 2: It, okay these.

728
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: Guys definitely had an interesting relationship With.

729
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:54,039
Speaker 1: Metallica, yeah at one point they were supposed to open

730
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:57,599
For metallica and the, tour but then they also got

731
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:01,239
offered to do soundtrack work On Last Action. Hero they

732
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,440
Picked Last Action. HERO i don't know if that was

733
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,000
a good choice or, not but, hey they were In

734
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,320
la instead of getting stuff thrown on them in a

735
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:08,119
concert or.

736
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 10: Whatever they bout out the day before the. Tour it's

737
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,519
a little. Douchey it's a little douchey to do. That

738
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,280
and so in, Response metallica came out and they started

739
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:36,760
mock Playing man in A. Box they were making motions

740
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,400
toward their arms like they were shooting Up heroin because

741
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,000
they were frustrated that these guys and the crowd started

742
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:46,960
throwing beer bottles At metallica because they were pissed them

743
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:51,679
being judgmental check. ASSS i think they all ultimately all made.

744
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,079
Speaker 1: UP i think a couple of these, Guys Jerry cantrell

745
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,519
AND i Think Sean kenney have both worked On metallica

746
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,199
stuff since. Then but then even AFTER i mentioned and

747
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,519
to you guys today THAT i thought that this is

748
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:06,159
kind of a take on The rift From Wherever My May,

749
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,880
roam which came out year before came out totally, is

750
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,480
and Then james pointed out That metallica probably did the

751
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,559
same thing a little bit later.

752
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:18,159
Speaker 4: On you Know metallica every now and then they've been

753
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:21,519
accused of boring a, rift but which musician. Hasn't we

754
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:24,199
had the whole situation with The inner Sand man and

755
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,519
the rift from the Old excel.

756
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,639
Speaker 2: SONG i don't know why you weren't on this text,

757
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,679
thread but you texted us today, Saying, hey, GUYS i

758
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:32,360
think this sounds a lot Like WHEREVER I May?

759
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:32,639
Speaker 4: Roam?

760
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: HUH i Texted james what two nights? Ago, Yeah i'm, Like,

761
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,840
james this song sounds a lot Like WHEREVER I May?

762
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: Roam get the heck. Out, no it's totally. True oh.

763
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,960
Wow so WHEN i texted you were, like why are

764
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,880
you saying WHAT i already?

765
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,039
Speaker 2: SAID i was, Like SO i texted, Him i'm like

766
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:52,840
these on the party. Too so, wow, ABSOLUTELY i think

767
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,360
it's totally exactly Like WHEREVER I May.

768
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,119
Speaker 1: Roam that's, Funny, yeah So. James, yeah WHEN i texted,

769
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,599
That james, said also listened to the beginning and end

770
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,840
Of Until It, sleeps which is off of? Fuel is

771
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,280
that the name of the, album it was that load or.

772
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,400
Load that's, Right fuel was On, load but he, said

773
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,440
listen to the beginning and end Of Until It sleeps

774
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:16,800
and then listen To Angry, chair and there's definitely some.

775
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,760
Crossover and so, yeah they borrow from each. Other that's

776
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,960
what you, do you, know you, know good artists create

777
00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:23,400
great artist. Steel there you.

778
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: Go Lane staley wrote this song to a quote certain

779
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,320
person who basically buried my.

780
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,639
Speaker 1: ASS i don't know what that means, either but, okay

781
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:32,199
then there you.

782
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,159
Speaker 2: Go done with this one good. SONG i like. It it's.

783
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 4: Okay it's a heavy song And lane's vocal with her

784
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,719
own point and really appropriate.

785
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,159
Speaker 2: This, okay next song on the album's song called Godsmack

786
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,239
wow wow wow wow.

787
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,599
Speaker 1: Wow it's kind of interesting to me this, ONE i,

788
00:41:57,639 --> 00:42:01,519
mean shockingly another song about, heroin but this is a

789
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:04,119
little more, Dancy like this is more like a club

790
00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:06,360
music kind of which is weird for me to hear

791
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,559
from alis In. Chains it's not that it's, bad it's

792
00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:12,280
just it doesn't seem to fit for. ME i like.

793
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,280
IT i still listen to. It it's it's not a bad,

794
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,840
song it's just kind of. Odd it just seems. Odd

795
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,239
to me that they're writing This godsmack song and have

796
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,880
this very dancy kind of.

797
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,039
Speaker 4: Style the lyrics and the music clearly don't match, up

798
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:28,159
and that may have been. INTENTIONAL i mean talking about

799
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:31,840
what smack Is god's name the, song there's clearly someone

800
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,920
getting deeper and deeper in the depths of their addiction

801
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,599
as they continue their progress down the dark road When

802
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:37,079
lane was.

803
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:41,639
Speaker 1: On Obviously godsmack the band came along later on and

804
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,239
they got their name from this.

805
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: Song any song that Has laine on vocals And Jerry

806
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,400
cantrell on guitar is going to be two steps.

807
00:42:48,440 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 9: Ahead if this one doesn't really do it for, Me

808
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:02,199
so you sickness ways a.

809
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:04,679
Speaker 2: Ton this is not my drug of, choice all?

810
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: Right all, right well then let's move, on shall? We?

811
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,159
Speaker 2: Yes do we want to talk about the intro The Iron?

812
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: Gland we want to talk.

813
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,039
Speaker 2: About The Iron.

814
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:21,079
Speaker 1: GLAND i am Iron. Land, yeah so there. Is it's

815
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:25,360
just untitled depending on which release you. Got it's untitled on,

816
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:28,719
some AND i think it was mistitled when they put

817
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,320
it On Apple music As Iron, man WHICH i mean

818
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,960
obviously they're borrowing From Black. Sabbath we discussed how they

819
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,800
were a huge. Influence but this is a forty three

820
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,559
second song Called Iron, gland developed out of one Of

821
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:46,800
Jerry cantrell's guitar riffs that everyone else in the band.

822
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,320
Hated it annoyed the crap out of. Everybody so he's, like, okay,

823
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,320
FINE i want to just put it on an album

824
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,519
and THEN i will never play it. Again and there you.

825
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:56,280
Go that's what you.

826
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 4: Brought In Tom area From slayer just to do the.

827
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: Art then they had to Take tom and rush out

828
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,079
To Joshua tree because people were looting and. MURDERING i

829
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:07,599
kind of like.

830
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: The Red rum stuff at the very. End, yeah, Okay

831
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:13,920
so that brings us to the next song called hate To.

832
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:30,559
Speaker 1: FEEL i don't hate this, song BUT i also don't love.

833
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:33,320
It this one is he's doing something with his. GUITAR

834
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,039
i think it's like an effect pedal where it plays

835
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:38,280
obviously the note that he's, playing and then like a

836
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:41,840
sixth step down from that, note which gives it that

837
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,400
kind of weird sound that each of the notes that

838
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,679
he plays has obviously flows smoothly from that Weird Iron

839
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,719
gland thing that we had right before. IT i don't

840
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,639
know how that song got messed up in the placement

841
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:56,079
when they originally pressed this, album so it wasn't they

842
00:44:56,599 --> 00:44:59,400
it wasn't one that followed. Before but all of that,

843
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,960
aside this is one THAT i could leave off the

844
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,320
album and never miss.

845
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,159
Speaker 4: It and one of the highlights of this song is

846
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:07,800
it's you. Know laane actually wrote two songs for this

847
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,159
album and came when they were. Recording this is one

848
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:12,320
of the two that he wrote. Himself but, YEAH i,

849
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,440
mean other than getting steadily darker and darker down the junkie,

850
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,880
trail this is the, closest one of the. Closest this

851
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,639
album has to a skipper for me as.

852
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: Well, yeah this is a skipper for me as.

853
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: Well, yeah this one And Angry chair composed completely By

854
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,519
Laine staley and on both of them he plays, guitar

855
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:32,639
Which Jerry cantrell, SAID i Was he was the one

856
00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:35,800
that encouraged me to sing and complimented to me on

857
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,559
my singing WHEN i. Did AND i think he knocked

858
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:40,599
it out of the park with these songs and did

859
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:41,199
wonderful on the.

860
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: Guitar so when he brought it in he had sort

861
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,400
of the basis of it but no lyrics chet hm

862
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,960
and so he wrote the lyrics while they were recording the.

863
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,679
Speaker 4: Album we've got the cheerful lyrics like what's he? Say

864
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,880
used to be? Curious now the blank is. Sustenance more

865
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,400
songs about.

866
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: Drugs, okay we done with this. One, yeah slush.

867
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:02,159
Speaker 2: That one down the toilet before the cops get.

868
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:08,079
Speaker 1: Here let's get rid of this one and move on

869
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:36,960
to the Next Lane staley, Song Angry. Chair how in

870
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:40,199
opposition to that last, Song Lane staley brings it home

871
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,400
with this. ONE i love this. Song this is, fantastic

872
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:47,559
and it's funny to me that it's a song about a.

873
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:53,199
Toilet so the first verse of the song is sitting

874
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,760
on an angry, chair angry walls that steal the. Air stomach,

875
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,559
hurts AND i don't. Care when you do, heroin you

876
00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:05,360
lose your. Appetite but what comes along with that is stomach.

877
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,199
Pains you end up sitting on the toilet because of

878
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,639
your stomach. Pains and what he's saying here Is i'm

879
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:14,639
sitting on the. Toilet i'm angry BECAUSE i can't. Poop

880
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,760
my stomach, hurts BUT i don't.

881
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,079
Speaker 2: Care SEE i heard that this song was written about

882
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:22,599
him having that special chair when he got in, trouble

883
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:26,400
when he was a little kid to time, chair time out,

884
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,000
chair and he had to sit and look at a

885
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,519
mirror of, himself, like look at that bad kid right.

886
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:34,159
Speaker 1: There oh my, god that's What.

887
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:39,559
Speaker 4: That's WHAT i heard as. Well oh my, god maybe

888
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:40,360
there's a mirror in his.

889
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,119
Speaker 1: Bathroom, yeah of course there's a mirror in his. Bathroom.

890
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,559
Well verse two starts off with, candles, RED i have a.

891
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:50,280
Pair it's talking about cooking. Heroin, Yeah i'm pretty sure

892
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,960
this song is a continuing story About. Heroin it definitely.

893
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: Is, it definitely. Is this was the third, single Released december,

894
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,320
sixth nineteen ninety. Two Lane staley wrote this one as.

895
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,320
Well this is, dense, scary, dark but then they break

896
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,159
into that really cool melodious.

897
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:07,599
Speaker 1: PART i, MEAN i don't mind.

898
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:09,639
Speaker 2: Part, yeah he's got a knack for doing.

899
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: That, YEAH i don't. MIND i don't mind it lost my,

900
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,400
mind can't find it. ANYWHERE i don't.

901
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: Mind there's some dark beauty.

902
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 4: Here. Yeah this is one of my Favorite cantrail. Solos.

903
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,039
Speaker 2: Oh the guitar solo is killer on this.

904
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 1: One it's. Amazing let's listen to this requet freaking, awesome

905
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,599
mind blowing by the, way right before the guitar. Solo he,

906
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Says i'm a dull, boy work all, day So i'm strung. Out,

907
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:54,199
ANYWAY i don't think this is a kid in Time,

908
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:55,320
Hey i'm.

909
00:48:55,159 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: Just the internets are telling me that this is a

910
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,400
what you read all?

911
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 4: Right?

912
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,119
Speaker 2: Hey the music video on this has one of those

913
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:07,639
weird night. Monkeys here's seeing with the giant eyeballs and

914
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:09,280
it's on his shoulder and it's hanging.

915
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:11,679
Speaker 1: It's it was actually is a monkey on his. Back

916
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,960
there is a monkey on his. Back, yeah obviously the

917
00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:16,639
song is about a little boy who's in time.

918
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 4: Out there's no, Question and this is the one WHERE

919
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:22,679
i REALLY i may be, wrong BUT i do Think

920
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,480
Laura's ulrich heard this and use some of the, intro

921
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,400
the kind of drum part when they Recorded Until It

922
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,239
sleeps a few years.

923
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,159
Speaker 2: Later, hey one of the THINGS i wanted to throw

924
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:34,000
in On. Metallica we brushed up With metallica just a minute.

925
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,280
Ago the guys From metallica were in the audience the

926
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,960
night That Alison chains did the unplugged Show The Friends

927
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,719
Don't Let Friends Get? Haircuts, yes thats.

928
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:47,119
Speaker 4: Don't Let friends get friends?

929
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: Haircuts that's HER tv.

930
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 4: Show oh So.

931
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,559
Speaker 2: Metallica had just cut their, hair And mikeez wrote on

932
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:57,320
the front of his guitar friends don't let friends get friends.

933
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,840
Haircuts so these guys were. FRIENDS i. Know in, Particular

934
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,119
Jerry cantrell is still very close With.

935
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: Lars apparently he also still goes out To kabo For

936
00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:10,800
Sammy hagar's birthday. Party It jerry's cool, dude good old. Boy.

937
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 2: Yep, OKAY i.

938
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 4: SWEAR i rad that he used to go hunting With,

939
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:18,480
headfield so probably, so which also sounds like a GREAT tv, show.

940
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:25,159
Speaker 2: Hunting With. Headfield let's make that. Happen. Okay now that

941
00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:27,639
brings us to the last song on the, album a

942
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,320
song that was on the singles. Soundtrack this song is Called.

943
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: Wood they're ending strong on this, one boys. Man this

944
00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:57,360
is Not this is not the. Throwaway let's stick it

945
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,559
on at the last minute Sound this is. Fantastic, yeah

946
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:02,000
it's one.

947
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,519
Speaker 4: Of my favorite songs on the. ALBUM i.

948
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,559
Speaker 1: Agree so the title of the song Is wood question

949
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:14,239
mark as in Would but this song was written By

950
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,280
Jerry cantrell as a tribute to his Friend Andrew wood

951
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:22,800
From Mother, lovelone who passed away from heroin overdose in

952
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:37,719
nineteen Ninety it's also directed towards the judgmental sons of

953
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,440
bees that look down upon folks who are dealing with

954
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,840
the heroin addictions and don't know how to deal with.

955
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,519
Speaker 2: It Probably, yeah this was the first, single like we,

956
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:49,039
said from a single soundtrack Released june, thirtieth nineteen ninety.

957
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:51,960
Two and If rooster is not your favorite, song it's

958
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,559
probably this. Song those are the two best songs on the.

959
00:51:54,559 --> 00:52:00,400
Album my huge, chorus haunting, tone dark and beautiful song

960
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:00,920
about drug.

961
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 4: Addiction Andrew wood had a tragic life and an ended,

962
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,159
tragically but he inspired some amazing music besides. This you,

963
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:09,039
know we had The temple of The doll album With

964
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:12,159
Chris cornell and some of The Pearl jam, guys beautiful

965
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,519
sad music and it's all once again inspired By wood's.

966
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:18,079
Speaker 2: Depth during the making of this, video they flew To

967
00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:21,039
seattle for three days and while they're in the middle

968
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:24,519
of the video, Shoot lane goes to the video director and,

969
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:28,840
SAYS i need to go, home and he's like. What he's,

970
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,719
LIKE i have to go get some massprin AND i

971
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,960
have to feed my. Cat so he left in the

972
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,360
middle of the video shoot to you, know feed his.

973
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,320
Cat which is the story we're going.

974
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: With he had a. Cat he did have a. Cat

975
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,320
his cat's name Was. Sadie his cat's name Was.

976
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: Sadie And i'm sure that was the only thing he

977
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:46,960
did when he got, home.

978
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: Right, yeah he was probably drug sick and needed something

979
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,679
to get him. Onsick the director of that, video by the,

980
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:57,079
way we've talked about. Before, yeah who's. It yeah It's Josh. Taft, Okay,

981
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,679
Now josh was co director With cam And crow on this. Video.

982
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,239
Right you, know of Course Cameron crowe having, singles is

983
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,400
going to come in to take part in the direction

984
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,480
of the. Video But Josh taft also directed videos For

985
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,119
Stone Temple, pilots Including Sex Type, Thing plush And Lady Picture,

986
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:19,360
show which we'll be talking about on our next. Episode

987
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:22,880
but we talked about him in the past because he

988
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:26,800
was the guy who recorded the live performance of A

989
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,960
live By Pearl jam that if you listen to the extended,

990
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:35,760
video at some, Point Eddie vedder goes turn the lights. Off,

991
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,559
yes this is a rock, concert not a.

992
00:53:38,679 --> 00:53:39,039
Speaker 7: Movie.

993
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: Josh That's Josh taft who directed videos For Alison Chains

994
00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:47,760
Stone Temple, pilots who will cover next, week and of

995
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,559
Course Pearl jam throw back to that episode.

996
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: Which we love forgot about that is a great, story

997
00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:58,159
Freaking Josh rock. Video just a fantastic way to cap

998
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:00,679
off the album about.

999
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 4: Them bleeding blending this darkness and. BEAUTY i think it's

1000
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,719
hard to find a better example of it than this.

1001
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,760
Song it's got such an ominous tone with that bass

1002
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,159
intro at the, beginning but then when it explodes in that,

1003
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,119
chorus there's, ALMOST i hate to say, optimism but there's

1004
00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:16,719
almost a sense of there's something positive about the.

1005
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: Chorus, dark haunting and.

1006
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 4: Beautiful and my band actually we still play this song

1007
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:24,840
and as soon as our bass player starts that, intro

1008
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,480
you can hear people all around, going, oh people still

1009
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:30,360
love this. Song even thirty years, later it still goes over.

1010
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,199
WELL i guess that's a testament to its.

1011
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: Power super strong, ALBUM i, mean not a miss on side.

1012
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,639
One side one is. Epic, yep you got one or

1013
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:46,559
two skippers on side, two but mostly great stuff. Throughout

1014
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,639
definitely a fantastic. Album they left Off Mike starrs SONG

1015
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,119
I Know.

1016
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: Fear The voices really wanted that one on, there and

1017
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,599
they fought him all the, way and they did not include,

1018
00:54:57,599 --> 00:54:59,119
it but it is in their box set if you

1019
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:01,599
want to hear. It we're kind of putting a capro on.

1020
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:04,400
This but they had to cancel one of the shows

1021
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,039
on The dirt to her mid performance Because lane would

1022
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:11,079
drop the mic and leave and go get high in

1023
00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:14,199
the middle of the, concert and so the manager had

1024
00:55:14,199 --> 00:55:16,360
to come out and, say that's, It we're not finishing this.

1025
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,679
Concert so they actually called off a concert in the

1026
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:20,159
middle of the.

1027
00:55:20,199 --> 00:55:23,519
Speaker 4: Show wayne's life. Story it's a. Tragedy the man had

1028
00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:26,840
so much. Talent it was such an amazing. VOCALIST i

1029
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,960
mean people have been trying to replicate his voice for

1030
00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:32,400
years and bands Like godsmack and other, places, yep but

1031
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:35,199
they lacked that certain. Timber he had that certain feeling

1032
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:35,679
that came with.

1033
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,079
Speaker 2: It, yeah his vocals are, amazing.

1034
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: Amazing so have you got some info on how this

1035
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:42,239
album performed upon?

1036
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: Release, yeah D, so this album peaked at number six

1037
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,079
on The billboard two hundred five times. Platinum as we,

1038
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:52,440
said just hit that five million mark In august of

1039
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,000
twenty twenty.

1040
00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 1: Two you know, what If i'm just picking my own favorites,

1041
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,880
HERE i wouldn't put it at the. TOP i would

1042
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,280
put The unplugged album at the. Top, well we need

1043
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,760
to talk about the N plugged down for just a.

1044
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:25,239
Second So april, tenth nineteen ninety, six they came back

1045
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:29,320
after having not performed together because of all Of lane's.

1046
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,480
Problems they hadn't performed together in two and a half.

1047
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:34,800
Years and you can tell when you watch THE Mtv

1048
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,880
unplugged he's got his sunglasses. On he's, there he's, coherent

1049
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,159
he's performing the songs and all of. That but at

1050
00:56:42,159 --> 00:56:43,760
some point he takes those glasses.

1051
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 7: Off i'm back.

1052
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:58,199
Speaker 1: And you look in his eyes and he has, piercing entrancing,

1053
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,480
eyes but they're there's a sadness there that you can

1054
00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:03,360
see a life that is about to be.

1055
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,159
Speaker 2: Extinguished that he can barely sit on the. Stool but

1056
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,960
they somehow against all, odds Like Sean kenney even, said

1057
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:14,119
we can't even get through, rehearsals like we made crash

1058
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:17,519
and burn on this, deal and somehow they pulled off

1059
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:22,159
the impossible and that night was an epic. Performance maybe

1060
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:23,360
they're best ever is also.

1061
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: Changs his vocals are perfection throughout the whole, thing which

1062
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,159
is saying something because when you get a regular, album

1063
00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:34,199
you have the opportunity to re, record re, record and re,

1064
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:36,400
record and they did this in front of an. Audience

1065
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,719
it was an, amazing amazing, performance and four months later

1066
00:57:41,159 --> 00:57:45,360
he would do his very last Performance Kansas, City, missouri

1067
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,679
turing With. Kiss from then on he was out of public,

1068
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,760
spotlight never to perform live.

1069
00:57:51,159 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 4: Again it says something about a band's music when it

1070
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,199
translates so well into a different. Format for these, songs

1071
00:57:57,199 --> 00:57:59,639
which are, recorded most of them with the, heavy distorted

1072
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:02,239
guitar and the pounding, DRAMs to hear them in this

1073
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,239
unplugged acoustic, format and realizing how much creativity and talent

1074
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,800
these guys had and how great this song still. SOUND

1075
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,880
i think that's the reason Why Alison chains is still

1076
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,760
such a beloved band. Today, yeah they just had the.

1077
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,039
Speaker 2: Songs when they started their first song that, night that

1078
00:58:17,159 --> 00:58:19,599
song was Called. Nutshell people were. Crying first of, all

1079
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:23,280
they're amazed that they're even, there and then to pull

1080
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,119
off that, performance it's just tear.

1081
00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:29,079
Speaker 1: Jerky it is truly an amazing. Album it's an amazing.

1082
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:32,559
Performance it's JUST i could listen to it over and

1083
00:58:32,599 --> 00:58:35,400
over again and never get tired of. It so just

1084
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,000
a little over three months After lane's last live. Performance

1085
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:44,000
On october twenty, ninth nineteen ninety, six his former fance

1086
00:58:44,159 --> 00:58:47,599
that we talked about, Before Demri, pirot died of a drug.

1087
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:50,800
Overdose he got placed on a twenty four hour suicide.

1088
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,079
Watch they quoted a friend of his saying he was

1089
00:58:54,119 --> 00:58:59,239
taking her death extremely badly and was in a deep. Depression,

1090
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,760
well if you started from where he, was you, know

1091
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,760
he can't even do a live performance, anymore and say

1092
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,960
he went down drastically from, there, right that's pretty freaking.

1093
00:59:10,039 --> 00:59:10,760
Low well you can.

1094
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: TELL i mean he normally weighs about one hundred and seventy.

1095
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,679
POUNDS i, mean he's a thin guy, Anyway but at

1096
00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:18,920
THAT Mtv unplugged, PERFORMANCE i bet he's one hundred and

1097
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:23,079
twenty five. Pounds, yeah and when he died he was

1098
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:24,079
around ninety.

1099
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: Pounds he's like six foot. TALL i, know.

1100
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: Get, This. Okay so it's estimated that he was spending

1101
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,559
between two hundred and fifty and four hundred dollars a

1102
00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:38,920
day on crack and. Heroin, now he went on a

1103
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,920
camping trip with some friends to try and go Cold,

1104
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,800
turkey didn't bring anything with, him went camping in the.

1105
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,440
Woods there's no WAY i can get drugs. Here, well

1106
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,239
they started to get dope, sick and so they had

1107
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,239
to go back into. Town when they went back into,

1108
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,159
town they went To safeway to get some. Groceries and

1109
00:59:54,239 --> 00:59:57,000
in the parking lot of The safeway there's a bunch

1110
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,159
of teenagers just kind of a little impromptu party the

1111
01:00:00,159 --> 01:00:02,519
back parking lot of the. Safe, well they were blaring

1112
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,880
No excuses The alison, chainsaw and they pulled. Up he

1113
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:10,159
rolled down the window and he's dope, sick and he

1114
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,599
still belted out the perfect version of no Excuses.

1115
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:16,719
Speaker 1: God and.

1116
01:00:39,639 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: The teenagers were, like is that Freaking Lane staley right?

1117
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:43,039
Speaker 4: There?

1118
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,519
Speaker 1: Wow we can't forget. That he did a couple side.

1119
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:50,119
Projects mike McCready invited him to be a part Of

1120
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,239
Mad season because he was in hopes, that, hey maybe

1121
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,880
if we surround him with musicians that are all clean and,

1122
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,119
sober that that will help him get clean and. Sober

1123
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,400
unfortunately it didn't. Work fortunately it gave us The Mad season,

1124
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,360
album which is. Fantastic but he also you played one for.

1125
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,440
ME i had forgotten that this was on, there but

1126
01:01:09,679 --> 01:01:13,840
on The faculty, soundtrack that terrible high school alien movie

1127
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,800
from nineteen ninety, nine there is a remake of The

1128
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,119
wall And Lane staley is singing.

1129
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,239
Speaker 2: That his voice is, there but his enunciation is.

1130
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,239
Speaker 1: Awful, yeah if we can listen to it, here we

1131
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:30,199
don't no, dog.

1132
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 4: No dog sca.

1133
01:01:39,559 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 7: Classroom teach their.

1134
01:01:47,840 --> 01:02:05,119
Speaker 1: Ship, yeah and you. Can, yeah you're totally. Right you can.

1135
01:02:05,159 --> 01:02:07,480
Hear he's probably missing some tea he doesn't.

1136
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 2: Have he doesn't have any team at this.

1137
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 5: Point.

1138
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually alice In chains got together and recorded two

1139
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:18,000
songs for their box. Set they had two days because

1140
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,079
they were recording Around, offspring who's recording their, album But

1141
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:24,079
offspring agreed to give them two days to come in and.

1142
01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:27,719
Record everybody showed up and recorded their, parts but they

1143
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,039
could not Get lane in the. Studio when he finally showed,

1144
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:33,000
up they couldn't believe what they were seeing was super,

1145
01:02:33,039 --> 01:02:36,199
thin scary. Thin so he came, up screwed, around and

1146
01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:38,559
then decided that he had to. Go he couldn't, stay

1147
01:02:38,639 --> 01:02:42,800
and they actually had to bring the recording to him

1148
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,639
to get his vocals for those last two. Songs those

1149
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:49,159
songs are Called Get Born again And. Died and then

1150
01:02:49,199 --> 01:02:52,199
On april fourth of two thousand and, Two Mike starr

1151
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,639
Visited lane at his, apartment which it's Very Howard hughes.

1152
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,400
Like he had this. Apartment nobody ever really saw. Him

1153
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:00,519
he would go to the comic book store and toys.

1154
01:03:00,599 --> 01:03:03,679
Arrus otherwise he stayed locked away in his. Apartment, Well

1155
01:03:03,719 --> 01:03:06,960
Mike starr was actually visiting, him And lane was chastising

1156
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:10,440
him for being addicted to, pills And mike's, like what

1157
01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:14,400
the heck are you talked, about? Dude look at? You you,

1158
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:19,280
know oh, High you're. High in, fact he Threatened. Lane he,

1159
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,760
SAID i might just call nine one, one how about?

1160
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,639
That And lane, said if you, Do i'll never talk

1161
01:03:23,679 --> 01:03:26,039
to you. Again mike stormed, out and on his way,

1162
01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:30,000
Out lane, said not like, this, Man don't let it

1163
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:34,840
in like. This and it's estimated that he died the next.

1164
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 7: Day.

1165
01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:37,719
Speaker 4: Yeah the weird part about, that to make the, hair

1166
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,480
what little there is stand up on the back of

1167
01:03:39,519 --> 01:03:41,920
my neck is. That Mike starr said that when he

1168
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,039
was talking To lane that, Night, lane they were watching

1169
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:47,320
some show about ghosts or seances or, reincarnations And lane

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said That dimri was here last.

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Speaker 1: Night Tragic Tragic Story april, fifth two thousand and. Two

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lane stay overdosed on a speedball at the age of thirty.

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Speaker 2: Four which music did we miss out? On because he

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could not break free of this.

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Speaker 1: Addiction, yeah the bank called his parents because there had

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01:04:07,079 --> 01:04:11,079
been no financial transactions for two. Weeks he had people

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01:04:11,079 --> 01:04:13,840
who he normally would have called who hadn't heard from

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01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,599
him in the two. Weeks so his mother and his

1179
01:04:16,719 --> 01:04:20,559
stepdad went to his. Apartment couldn't get, in which was not.

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01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,960
Atypical what happened was she heard that, Cat, sadie, meowing

1181
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,960
and she, Said sadie's normally a very quiet. Cat this

1182
01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:31,239
sounded like a cat in. Distress and so it was

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01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,159
that that caused him to call nine one one and

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01:04:33,239 --> 01:04:35,400
have the paramedics come out and break the door down

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01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:35,719
to find.

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Speaker 4: It hard to imagine someone who just a few years

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earlier had been one of the world's most legendary rock

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01:04:40,519 --> 01:04:43,159
stars just dying by himself alone And leigh in there

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01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:43,519
for two.

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Speaker 2: Weeks, yeah just couldn't break.

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Speaker 1: Free Mark, lanigan who's From The Screaming, trees said he

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01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,840
never recovered From demery's death after. THAT i don't think

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01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,239
he wanted to go. On when they had his memorial,

1194
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,800
Service Chris cornell was joined By ann And Nancy Wilson

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01:05:00,239 --> 01:05:03,039
art and they sang a rendition of The Rolling Stones Wild.

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01:05:03,079 --> 01:05:07,199
Speaker 4: Horses soon After lane passed, Away Jerry cantrell released a

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01:05:07,199 --> 01:05:09,559
solo album he's been working on during the. Hiatus it

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01:05:09,639 --> 01:05:12,360
was Called Degradation, trip and it Was jerry doing with

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01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,039
his own. Addictions the rest of the guys in the

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01:05:14,039 --> 01:05:16,159
band were having their own. Problems but if you listen

1201
01:05:16,199 --> 01:05:18,800
to a lot of those songs are clearly discussing his

1202
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:21,559
low pete relationship With, waane and the fact that it

1203
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:23,880
was released as soon after his death makes IT i don't, know,

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01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,360
man it's tough to listen. To it's a beautiful, album great,

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01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:27,800
music but it's just tough to listen.

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01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,679
Speaker 2: To great, band great, album important band of the. Nineties

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01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,480
next week we're going to talk About Stone Temple pilots

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01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,440
and we will go track by track Through their album Cor.

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01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: Core was released on the same, Day september twenty, ninth

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01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:55,639
nineteen ninety, two same day As. Dirk and to give

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01:05:55,639 --> 01:05:58,239
you a little a little, HINT i have a dear

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01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,800
close friend who is the the Biggest Allison chains Fan

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01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:07,119
i've ever met in my. Life her firstborn, child his

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01:06:07,159 --> 01:06:10,719
middle name Is, laane spelled with a. Y that is

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01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,880
how important this band was to. Her WHEN i told

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01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,400
her about this, mashup she Said core's the better, album

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01:06:17,679 --> 01:06:20,760
AND i was, like, what she, Goes, listen you know

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01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,519
HOW i feel About Alison, chains But core is the better.

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01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:37,599
Speaker 4: Album i'll save my takes later on that.

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01:06:37,679 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: One i'm not SAYING i share her. Opinion i'm just

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01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,679
saying there's a definite contention in this particular.

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01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,079
Speaker 2: Matchup all, Right, well we will see you guys back

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01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:49,800
here next.

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Speaker 1: Week, yeah be sure and hit that follow button on

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01:06:52,239 --> 01:06:55,920
your podcast app so that you get updated automatically when

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01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,920
that next episode comes. Out we will talk to you guys.

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,039
Then thank you so much for joining, Us, James thank

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01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:06,119
you for coming in and going through the history and

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01:07:06,159 --> 01:07:08,840
the track by track with us on this. Album loved you.

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01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,599
Takes can't wait to do this again with you.

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01:07:10,679 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 4: Soon, well thanks for waiting to be the man in

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01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,199
the zoom. Box. GUYS i appreciate.

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Speaker 1: It, schneck, right, schneck. SCHNECK i don't, Know, okay