1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, This is Martin Willis. This is a little 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,360 pre show talk. I'm just telling you that this is 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,560 normally our show on Tuesday nights, but this is actually 4 00:00:10,599 --> 00:00:15,080 Saturday night. And the reason is is because the guests 5 00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:18,519 that I have coming up, Mark Munroe and Paul Crowder. 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:25,160 Their series premieres on Sunday night, the twenty seventh, and 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,519 so I'm talking with him in just a minute. But 8 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:31,559 in our regular time slot on Tuesday, I have Linda 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,359 Zimmerman and because it's Halloween week, we are going to 10 00:00:35,399 --> 00:00:38,399 be talking ghost stories a little bit different. It's not 11 00:00:38,439 --> 00:00:41,399 going to be an UFO show, and that's coming up 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,560 as the regular scheduled show on Tuesday. Thank you and 13 00:00:45,799 --> 00:01:18,359 enjoy this show. Hello and welcome to the show. I'm 14 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,599 Martin Willashire host. We have a special show for you 15 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:25,280 this evening. We're going to be introducing Beyond UFOs and 16 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,560 the Unknown. I had to make a quick look over 17 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,439 to make sure I got that right. And that premieeres Sunday, 18 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,319 October twenty seventh at ten pm Eastern and Pacific, and 19 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:37,799 I have two people involved with that and I'll bring 20 00:01:37,879 --> 00:01:43,200 them right in. Paul Crowder, welcome, and Mark Monroe. Welcome 21 00:01:43,239 --> 00:01:43,719 to both of you. 22 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. 23 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,159 Speaker 1: And one of the benefits of doing this show is, 24 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,319 you know, I get to see the screeners before others. 25 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: I love that. And I was very impressed with your show. 26 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:58,319 Speaker 1: And as I was joking, I saw that my iPhone 27 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,280 made it into You're a Film And that's because I 28 00:02:02,319 --> 00:02:04,680 was at the DC hearing and in the back filming 29 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:07,159 the whole thing. And it was so funny. They told 30 00:02:07,239 --> 00:02:12,080 us when we were going into the hearing that no pictures, no, 31 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,919 you know, couldn't even take pictures or filming or anything. 32 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,960 And then once I walked in, I talked to the 33 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,639 guy at the end of the aisle who was managing everything, 34 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,520 and he says, hey, knock yourself out as long as 35 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,879 it doesn't interfere with anything. So I would have been 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,240 better prepared, but at least I did get it call 37 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:30,840 in film. That was exciting. So that's basically episode one. 38 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,560 You know, you talk about that, but I want to 39 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:37,719 I want to ask you both and what your you know, 40 00:02:37,759 --> 00:02:41,439 your involvement was, but I'll start with you Mark. What 41 00:02:41,599 --> 00:02:45,000 was your interest in this topic? I imagine you have 42 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,759 some of an interest to even do something like this. 43 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, I can't say that I'm 44 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,039 an you know, I've had an experience. I'm not someone 45 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,120 who like you know, had experience as a small child. 46 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:02,680 I've been chasing answers ever since. I am curious about 47 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:06,680 the world, and I was fascinated, totally fascinated, particularly with 48 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:09,759 the big storytellers of our time, you know, Spielberg or 49 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:16,840 Lucas and these big films about you know, space, about life, 50 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,960 about our lives, about other potential lives. And so you 51 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,800 would say I would, I would, you know, I was 52 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,039 interested in the story in that sense, right, And of course, 53 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,319 over the last five six years, I mean, the world 54 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,599 has changed so dramatically, like hasn't it. 55 00:03:34,759 --> 00:03:35,639 Speaker 2: To be interested in it. 56 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: When I was a teenager, it was something as a 57 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,280 teenager you could do, just like you were interested in 58 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,759 Mad magazine or something. You know, it's it was. It 59 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,599 was just kind of like a weird little hobby or whatever. 60 00:03:47,039 --> 00:03:49,639 And and you would think that people who were kind 61 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,240 of dedicated to it, they were kind of they were 62 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,919 pushed to the margins of our society. 63 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: They were weirdos, they were strange thinkers, they. 64 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,599 Speaker 3: Were stigmatized all that, right, But you know, once the 65 00:04:00,639 --> 00:04:04,000 government says, Hey, there's something going on that we can't explain, 66 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:09,599 and one of the possibilities could be another life form 67 00:04:09,879 --> 00:04:14,360 or science and technology that we don't think exists. 68 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:16,319 Speaker 2: By human hands. 69 00:04:16,879 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: Once that's out of the bag, the genie, you know, 70 00:04:19,879 --> 00:04:21,839 the genie is out of the bottle like suddenly. 71 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: Now. 72 00:04:23,079 --> 00:04:25,759 Speaker 3: I mean, on this show alone, you know, no one 73 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,399 said no to us. The idea that six or seven 74 00:04:28,439 --> 00:04:31,680 years ago I could have called Adam Shift's office or 75 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:33,720 Nancy Gillibrand's office and said, hey, would you like to 76 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:36,199 talk about UFOs. The idea that they would say yes, 77 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,000 right is very strange, but they did so I think 78 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,160 that tells you the new world we're in. So in 79 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:44,680 that sense, yeah, I'm very interested. 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was a it was a you know, 81 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:50,959 I started doing the show in twenty eleven, and I 82 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,240 saw the whole shift As a matter of fact. You know, 83 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:58,439 I do believe that one of the kind of high 84 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:02,399 profile jobs that I had ended, and I found out 85 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,000 later that it could have had to do the person 86 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,519 said I have to watch what I do in my 87 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,199 personal life, and the only thing I can think of 88 00:05:09,319 --> 00:05:12,399 is UFO. So, I mean, there was that stigma and 89 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:18,160 so yeah, Ever since twenty seventeen in December, everything has 90 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,240 changed and so many people are looking at the topic 91 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:26,160 and scientists have gotten involved, which I love that. And also, 92 00:05:26,519 --> 00:05:29,199 like you're saying, you know, Jill a brand, she's not 93 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,000 embarrassed to talk about it, and it's a bipartisan issue. 94 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,680 I'd love to see AOC and Matt Gates getting along. 95 00:05:36,439 --> 00:05:40,600 It was pretty interesting. But absolutely, Yeah, Paul, it's your turn. 96 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,360 How about yourself? 97 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,079 Speaker 4: Well, I've always been interested in the subject. Two thousand 98 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:50,199 and one, beautiful film. I love, you know, always looking 99 00:05:50,199 --> 00:05:52,120 at the sky when the guys were on the moon 100 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,680 for the you know, those few years, I kept looking 101 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,879 out Can I see them moving on? You know, I 102 00:05:56,959 --> 00:06:00,439 was just just fascinated the whole space thing. Closing counters 103 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,399 came out. I'm first in lighted to go see that, 104 00:06:02,519 --> 00:06:06,120 you know, and fascinated by it. Always have been, always 105 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,480 wanted to see one. Never have I sat on my 106 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:14,879 porch out here staring at the skies every night. Come on, guys. 107 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,160 But my wife's seen one, and it's her birthday today, 108 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,240 by the way. But she's had an experience and an 109 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,199 experience she can't explain. And you know, there's no reason 110 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,160 why she would lie about it, you know, in any fashion. 111 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:30,920 What's very very interesting is the two friends of hers 112 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,439 who were in the car with her don't want to 113 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,160 talk about it. And they went this object was flying 114 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:41,600 by the car they were driving. The driver woke up screaming, 115 00:06:41,959 --> 00:06:45,920 it doesn't have regulation lights, doesn't have regulation lights, freaking out. 116 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,160 They're all like waking up half one. And then they 117 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,240 see this what was like pink light object traveling to 118 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,000 the side, goes in front of the car, sits over 119 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,959 the freeway. They drive right underneath it. I'm convinced she's 120 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,839 been abducted. Drove right underneath it, and she turned around 121 00:07:01,879 --> 00:07:04,319 and looked out the window and shot off up into 122 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,519 the sky. So but the other two guys, we don't 123 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:09,720 want to talk about it at all. 124 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:13,079 Speaker 1: Now you must have heard of the Missing Time thing. 125 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,680 Did she talk about anything, Petliar? 126 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 4: No, No, no, no, I mean I just tease her 127 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:24,959 that she's been abducted to Yeah. But you know, I've 128 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:27,519 always been fascinated with the subject. And what has been 129 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,040 great is that with all these you know, with the 130 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,120 technology we have now, there are a lot more cameras 131 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,800 in their hands. That's great. Sadly our eyes come out 132 00:07:36,839 --> 00:07:41,920 now just destroying the landscape because there's so many, so 133 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:44,959 easy to make fake ones now, so we've gone back 134 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,319 to the days where people used to use this super 135 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,759 eight and throw discs across the thing or yeah, exactly 136 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:54,079 brings to do their own thing. So it's like always 137 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,199 taking that weird turn. But what has happened, especially since 138 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,439 two thousand and some team when the articles came out 139 00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:04,160 and the government admitted about the program and that all 140 00:08:04,199 --> 00:08:08,079 came to light was academia came in everybody who had 141 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,519 been there doing it. But we had to do it very, 142 00:08:10,639 --> 00:08:13,560 very carefully, trade carefully because of the stigma that you 143 00:08:14,399 --> 00:08:17,319 used to be around. That went away. The stigma was gone. 144 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,639 You've got navy pilots saying I've seen these things. You've 145 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,720 got people that you have you can't you know, dismissed 146 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:27,759 them as some crazy person like it's just like sitting 147 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:30,639 in a field somewhere. These are serious people who have 148 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,679 said it, and the government have said, yes, these programs exist. 149 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:37,799 Then they've backtracked and they've done their wonderful government jig 150 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:41,720 that they do. But it's it's now been it's able 151 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:46,279 to be completely explored in every fashion, and they're coming 152 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,279 up with all these these wonderful things that we didn't know. 153 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,519 I mean, but if you go back through Jacquelai's history 154 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,200 and put Off as well, and other people that we have, 155 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:02,120 they've all been studying these things for decades, multiple decades, 156 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,039 writing books on these things. There are papers and everything 157 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:08,799 to to that. Then they haven't been scared to talk 158 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,000 about it, and they've been deeply involved and with the 159 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:13,639 government and all that stuff. But now that you know, 160 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:17,360 now that they can really really explore, You've got that's 161 00:09:17,399 --> 00:09:21,240 in our show. Gary Nolan, a scientist deeply involved with 162 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:25,399 this whole subject. Now, you know, having you know, people 163 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,919 show up in his office to say, hey, we're from 164 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,000 the government. We want you to look at these things 165 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,600 that these scans, brain scans, they're all connected to the 166 00:09:33,799 --> 00:09:37,480 UFO events. And he's like, really, where's the camera? You know, 167 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,600 I'm getting punked here and and no, it was a 168 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,399 real thing. And so you know, it's fascinating that all 169 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,679 these people now come forward and can talk about it openly, 170 00:09:47,759 --> 00:09:49,799 write books about it, put it in the newspaper, put 171 00:09:49,799 --> 00:09:51,639 it on TV. We can make these shows and no 172 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,559 one's going to go yeah, right, guys, you know that's right. 173 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's really amazing if you think about, you know, 174 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,679 the way you're talking about progressing. How you know, I'm 175 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,600 not even embarrassed. I'm a fine art antique appraiser, and 176 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,000 if I feel comfortable with someone I'm talking in the house, 177 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,960 I'll go there. And before I was scared to death 178 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,600 to go there, you know, like I'd be pushed out 179 00:10:14,639 --> 00:10:17,679 of the house or something. But anyway, you going back 180 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,559 to the AI, I've been told, and I don't know 181 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,159 if this is true or not, but I've been told 182 00:10:23,159 --> 00:10:25,720 that they can there's a way to figure out if 183 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,639 those if the hoaxes, hoax images and videos are made 184 00:10:30,759 --> 00:10:32,840 with that. But I'm not sure there's some type of 185 00:10:32,879 --> 00:10:35,879 signature that you can tell. I hope, so that would 186 00:10:35,919 --> 00:10:36,480 be nice. 187 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, right now you can tell, Oh, come on, you 188 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,600 know they I haven't got the tracking quite right. A 189 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,919 lot of people are doing them cheaply, but you know, 190 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:45,960 if somebody wanted to spend a lot of time, I mean, 191 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,879 we will go to the theater and we're watching a 192 00:10:47,879 --> 00:10:50,600 lot of stuff these days that they're doing a lot 193 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,000 of stuff in front of the green screen and we're 194 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:55,879 believing what we see, so they could be easily faked. Yeah, 195 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,679 as far as they're being a signat show, I don't know. 196 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:01,799 The key thing is the guys, the pilots and those people. 197 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,840 They're not making a videos. 198 00:11:04,759 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: That's right. 199 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:07,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, the real thing. 200 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love listening to the pilots, Ryan 201 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,639 Graves and you know other people you've had on your 202 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,679 in your episodes there. But I mean it's really it's 203 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,200 really quite amazing, and I think that you know, the 204 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:26,279 thing that I think is really important is that there's 205 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,960 nowhere in your episodes that I saw the two shows 206 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,399 that I watched that someone is saying they know what 207 00:11:33,799 --> 00:11:38,480 they are, because that's that's we really don't know exactly 208 00:11:38,519 --> 00:11:40,720 what they are. And I really wonder if the government 209 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,120 knows just a partial I say that on this show 210 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,399 that I think the government may know the partial story, 211 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,480 but I don't believe they know the full story. And 212 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,399 and that's going to make it really hard for disclosure, 213 00:11:53,919 --> 00:11:57,519 because how can they tell us they know part of it? 214 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,120 You know, I mean that's not very safe. 215 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,399 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know Brian Bender, great journalists these 216 00:12:04,799 --> 00:12:07,679 political these days. Yeah, he makes that point, you know, 217 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,039 for everyone who's you know, kind of waiting for disclosure. 218 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: It could be that they don't know what it is. 219 00:12:14,039 --> 00:12:16,279 Speaker 3: If they don't know what it is, it's hard to 220 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,240 tell the rest of us, right, And so I think 221 00:12:19,279 --> 00:12:22,559 they know enough, or you know, there's a good chance 222 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,759 they know enough to be worried, to be worried for 223 00:12:25,919 --> 00:12:28,200 security reasons, to be worried for a lot of reasons. 224 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,960 But when when you have something that's unexplained, you know, 225 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,440 there's a paternal instinct that thinks, oh, the government will 226 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,000 will protect us, they'll keep us safe. 227 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: Oh the government knows all. 228 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:39,919 Speaker 3: These things, they have all the answers, you know that 229 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,639 you think of the warehouse and raiders of the Lost Ark. 230 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,279 Speaker 2: They've just been out there somewhere, you know. 231 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: But you know, there's every there's every bit of you know, 232 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,679 the chance that they actually don't know what it is. 233 00:12:51,039 --> 00:12:52,919 Speaker 2: That they're just as flunix as the rest of us. 234 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:54,360 They may know a. 235 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,039 Speaker 3: Little bit more or have a little bit more in 236 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:02,399 terms of evidence or answers, but but a definitive what 237 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:02,879 is it? 238 00:13:03,039 --> 00:13:05,879 Speaker 2: What are they? I think it is hard to imagine. 239 00:13:06,279 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and there's you know, the the length of 240 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,799 time that I've been looking at this sometimes when the 241 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:17,759 topic of interdimensional comes up, it kind of makes sense, 242 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,759 you know. I mean, that's another thing that is a possibility. 243 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:24,840 And there's doctor Michael Masters, you know, talks about time travel, 244 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:27,200 and you know, I mean, there's it must have been 245 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,200 really fun for you to really look into this topic 246 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:33,120 deeply and find these people. 247 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: Well, I think, I think because it's broader than just UFOs, 248 00:13:36,759 --> 00:13:39,639 or at least potentially more broad than UFOs, And I think, 249 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,320 you know, it was tremendously fun to hear Jacques val 250 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:48,919 A talk about interdimensionality and the fact that he'd written, 251 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:55,279 you know, a fictional work about multiple dimensions, right, because 252 00:13:55,759 --> 00:13:58,240 back in the sixties you didn't write stuff that you 253 00:13:58,279 --> 00:14:00,720 thought would get you in trouble, so you would write 254 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,759 it as a piece of fiction, even though the theories 255 00:14:02,799 --> 00:14:05,879 within it are theories that you were interested in in 256 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,840 terms of our world today. And so, you know, the 257 00:14:08,879 --> 00:14:11,240 point that he made to us, which always struck me, 258 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,039 is that you know. 259 00:14:12,039 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: This is not like quaque physics. This is classical physics. 260 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,279 This is Nobel Prize winning physics. Right. 261 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:24,799 Speaker 3: The idea that there are more dimensions that that could, 262 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,159 you know, be at the foundation of our of our world, as. 263 00:14:29,159 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: You know, in terms of being human. 264 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: This is this is classic physics, and so it's not 265 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,480 too wild to take that classic physics model and put 266 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,600 it on top of experiences that have no explanation, right, 267 00:14:44,039 --> 00:14:46,399 And that's basically what we're talking about here. But that 268 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,320 extends to you know, near death experiences. That extends to 269 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,840 to you know, remote viewing or clairvoyance or the deja 270 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,720 vus or feeling that you sense or know something's going 271 00:14:59,759 --> 00:15:02,960 to happened before it does happen. Right, some of us 272 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,720 seem to have that, and seem to have that in 273 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,799 approvable way, like they're right over and over again. And 274 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:14,200 so why why do some of us have it and 275 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,759 some of us not? And why do some people see 276 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,000 UFOs and some people don't. I don't know if they're connected, 277 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:22,039 but certainly it's a great fun to. 278 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: Talk about, right, And Paul, to what you were saying earlier, 279 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,960 it's very very common. I've heard it so many times 280 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:34,799 where there'll be multiple witnesses and even a good friend 281 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,360 of mine when he was young, he was with two 282 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:39,600 other friends and this thing was right over them and 283 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:42,279 hovering right over them, and they will not to this 284 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,879 day they will not talk about it, and it's not 285 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,000 unusual at all. It's it's I think everyone it affects 286 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:53,879 everyone differently, and also the reactions are different as well. 287 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:56,879 Speaker 4: Well, it's it's perception first of all, it's like, what 288 00:15:56,919 --> 00:15:59,519 are people to take seriously? Also, you know, people that 289 00:15:59,559 --> 00:16:03,320 don't it's talk about it is because it it asks 290 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,919 questions they don't want to answer. And especially if you've 291 00:16:08,919 --> 00:16:11,399 got to think about it from the religious side of things. Yes, 292 00:16:11,559 --> 00:16:14,799 you know, there's a lot a lot of sort of 293 00:16:15,159 --> 00:16:17,039 you know, really go into this in the in the show, 294 00:16:17,039 --> 00:16:19,399 but there is a lot of feeling that you know, 295 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,000 these many a lot of these many black people, that's 296 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:26,279 where they stem from. Because the industry of religion is 297 00:16:26,679 --> 00:16:31,559 so it's worth so much money to have to reconsider 298 00:16:31,679 --> 00:16:35,080 everything that we've been taught. That's why people get scared 299 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,720 to talk about it, because not just that, but all 300 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:40,480 sorts of different things as to what it means and 301 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:43,759 to what I believe. And I want to go on 302 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,120 believing the world I lived in before that event. So 303 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:49,240 the best way for me to just continue on this 304 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:53,000 path is to not talk about it and just forget it, 305 00:16:53,039 --> 00:16:54,840 put it to the back of your mind, and it 306 00:16:54,879 --> 00:16:58,159 doesn't happen. And if somebody reminds you you don't have 307 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,320 any recollection, you know it's because for many So you've 308 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,480 got all those reasons. What is great now those who 309 00:17:04,519 --> 00:17:07,839 were fearful of being stigmatized, they no longer have to be. 310 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,799 You know, they can now speak up and say their peace. 311 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:16,640 And you know, people like Whitley, who was you know, 312 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,839 wrote a book and people made fun of him forever 313 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:25,920 since his experience in his book came out communion. Everybody 314 00:17:26,039 --> 00:17:29,480 now believes that all all aliens come down here and 315 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:35,400 probere butts like a continuous thing that everyone makes that 316 00:17:35,519 --> 00:17:38,599 joke in any science fiction comedy or anything where someone's 317 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,680 there's like it's a there's a butcher. Even in Gofman 318 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,119 they have the guy who's, you know, every day at 319 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:53,039 Sunday at six o'clock, my butcket's got numb in, absolutely exactly, 320 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,759 and you know that's exactly what everyone was up against 321 00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:59,519 all those The great thing is now that that's gone 322 00:17:59,839 --> 00:18:02,400 and we can talk about it openly and not be 323 00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:05,759 ridiculed and not be fearful. So again you have more 324 00:18:05,759 --> 00:18:08,640 people coming forward, and now everyone has a camera on 325 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,640 the hip so they're you know, gens in their hand 326 00:18:12,079 --> 00:18:14,400 at any given moment, and most of the young people 327 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,400 are ready split second to get Cameron and getting it. 328 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:21,680 So I wish they turn it the right way instead 329 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,319 of vertical. But anyway, you know, that's that gives us 330 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,319 more information. Now, that is so much more stuff that 331 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,920 is possibly out there, things that we can see, fascinating 332 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,480 stuff about the volcanoes and them halving around volcanoes and 333 00:18:37,519 --> 00:18:40,160 being coming in and out of the ocean and stopping 334 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:44,759 being fascinated always being seen around nuclear sites and all 335 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:49,400 this stuff where it's like at an elevation of intelligence 336 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,920 that's going on that could be potentially what it's about. 337 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,960 You know, the interdimensional thing is not only fascinating, it's 338 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,599 been talked about for years, but that makes it so 339 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,920 much easier to exploan if you think into dimensions. That's 340 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,319 how I got I went twenty thousand light years or 341 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,519 twenty million billion light years, I traveled across from that 342 00:19:09,559 --> 00:19:12,559 place to hear because it was interdimensional. It's not a 343 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:16,559 straight line at certain speed. So now it becomes a 344 00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:20,440 lot more explainable, a lot more understandable. Even if we 345 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,559 don't understand the physics of anything outside of the three 346 00:19:23,559 --> 00:19:27,519 dimensions we live in that we you know, experience. There's 347 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:30,400 so much more to that. And as Mark said, you know, 348 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,960 that's exactly what Chad Valley was writing about in the sixties. 349 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,039 You know, now it's from the Mark. The Marvel DC 350 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,200 franchise love it because they can just keep rechading out 351 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,920 these things and putting all the actions together because they're 352 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,880 all from the multiverse. So it's it is a fascinating subject. 353 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,079 But you know, it's definitely something to explore. 354 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,079 Speaker 3: I think going back to the you know, how people 355 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,920 talk about it or unwilling to talk about it. I 356 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,200 think a lot of times when when something happens in 357 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,559 your life that's not explained or it's hard to explain, 358 00:20:02,599 --> 00:20:06,079 it can be traumatic. I think these experiences are no 359 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,759 different than other traumatic experiences. A lot of people don't 360 00:20:08,759 --> 00:20:14,200 want to talk about for a spectrum of emotions that 361 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:19,839 they're forced to confront. And so you know the fact 362 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,640 that Willie Streemer wrote a book that spoke to you know, 363 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:26,480 tens of thousands, not hundreds of thousands of people in 364 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:29,440 a time when you couldn't just reach out and touch 365 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,799 someone through the internet like we have today, we're talking 366 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:34,640 about a time when people had to sit down and 367 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,240 write their thoughts down in a letter. Send that letter, right, 368 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,039 and you know they went through all those letters and 369 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,519 you know, I know again tens of thousands of them 370 00:20:46,519 --> 00:20:49,839 were very very personal items that they had not spoken 371 00:20:49,839 --> 00:20:52,920 to about to other human beings, but felt comfortable enough 372 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,480 having read Communion to write down, to commit to paper, 373 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,319 pen to paper, six seven eight pages is a very 374 00:21:01,319 --> 00:21:03,759 confessional stuff. And send it to a guy who wrote 375 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:08,240 a book. That tells you, you know, I mean that's 376 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,640 that's a small kind of pilot study, but that that 377 00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:13,640 tells you, you know, there's a vast number of people 378 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,519 who have had experiences probably they can't explain. 379 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: That we haven't learned about yet, that probably have taken 380 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,559 them to their graves. Right, Oh yeah, because how an 381 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:23,799 ability to talk about. 382 00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:26,759 Speaker 1: It and for generations, probably for generations. 383 00:21:27,559 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 4: Gary Notan talks about it in the show. You know 384 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,599 he hadn't experienced as a. 385 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: Child, right and the first time I. 386 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: Heard it say that, yeah, And then he sees them 387 00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:38,000 on the show cover and he's like, oh wait a second, 388 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,839 that's that. Those are the guys that are in my bedroom. 389 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: So I can tell you, yeah, I don't know if 390 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,000 either one of you have ever heard about the Allegash incident. 391 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,039 This happened up in Maine in nineteen late nineteen seventy eight. 392 00:21:50,039 --> 00:21:53,640 I think it was our summer seventy eight. Four artists. 393 00:21:53,799 --> 00:21:57,160 They were up there and they were out in a 394 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,359 canoe basically, and one of them flashed the light and 395 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,519 they just they don't. All they remember is when they 396 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:07,240 got back to shore that the campfire that they had 397 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,759 built really high up so they could find their way 398 00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:12,799 back to their campsite was all down to Cole's and 399 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:14,960 they said, how the heck did that happen? They didn't, 400 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,319 you know, so time had passed, but it was several years. 401 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:22,799 I think it was ten years later. Jim Wiener, that's 402 00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:25,480 just the last name, Jim and Jack Wiener, the twins. 403 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,799 He fell got into a construction accident and broke his back, 404 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:32,519 a terrible mess. Was in the hospital forever, and he 405 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,079 was reading book. They were reading books. He kept having 406 00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:38,359 these weird dreams and not really understanding. And again they 407 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,720 never even talked about it. The next day, you know 408 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,880 what happened. But all of a sudden, Whitley's book came 409 00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:48,119 on the cart on the library cart and he saw 410 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,279 it and everything came back to him. He goes, oh 411 00:22:50,319 --> 00:22:54,599 my god, and realized what happened. I mean, that book 412 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,599 has so many people have told me that that book, 413 00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:02,920 those creatures, they've seen them, you know, which is really bizarre. 414 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and but consistent with it. It's like that image 415 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:10,640 of the cover, it wasn't you know, like they've all 416 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,400 seen different things. They've all seen something that looks like 417 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,079 what we're calling the grays, right, Yes, these days, they've 418 00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:21,839 all had that image and that image is but you 419 00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:24,839 know there's some people saying, yeah, we've been spoon feeding 420 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,400 you this image, so you get used to it. So 421 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,359 when we reveal them culture thing, yeah yeah, but no 422 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,759 it is it's triggering to people. They have shut it 423 00:23:35,799 --> 00:23:38,359 off and suddenly these memories come flooding back. And that's 424 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:41,000 that's what's fascinating about the whole thing. And it's all 425 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:43,680 about the mind as well, what the mind perceives, how 426 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,880 we perceive it. I mean, really, you know, our brain 427 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,319 works as a bunch of on and off signals, so 428 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:51,720 you know, we can taste and color and everything. You know, 429 00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:55,000 what I see is red. Everybody else could think it's blue, 430 00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:56,599 but we all. I call it red and they call 431 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,720 it red, you know, apgociation. Yeah, but at the same time, 432 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:04,559 it's all perceptions. So it was And what's great is 433 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:07,559 we don't we know. We don't know a lot of things. 434 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:11,039 You know, the unknown is real and as long as 435 00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:14,440 I don't think we'll ever know everything. So there's always 436 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,000 more to learn. And these stories are going to continue 437 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:20,599 to evolve and we're going to discover more about them 438 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,519 and explain more about them and understand them a little more. 439 00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:26,559 But there is definitely a correlation with all of them, 440 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,960 with seeing UFOs, near death experiences, you know, out of 441 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,319 body experiences, remote viewing, all those things are all in 442 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,000 some fashion in here doing things that a lot of 443 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:43,400 us can't explain or be able to do the drop 444 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,559 of a hat. I mean, remote viewing is another thing 445 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,039 that's been going on for decades. And you know, I 446 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,680 know I have friends that can do it, and they 447 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,160 can do it, but they also they clear houses of 448 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,400 ghosts and things, have these abilities to make things better 449 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,759 in the location. And I just have to say, my 450 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,359 friend's got they think there's a pot of guy's going on. 451 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,079 There's something weird going on, And she says what's the address, 452 00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:13,319 and then she and she can go there, and you 453 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,440 know has done things that and explained. When she's explained 454 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,960 what was there everybody else who's been having these experiences 455 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,039 with these things. That's exactly right. It's not like she's 456 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,160 just guessing the same thing. She's hitting details that correlate 457 00:25:28,319 --> 00:25:31,240 with the people's experiences in these places. So there are 458 00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:33,400 people I know that have these and my daughter has 459 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,960 a little bit of it too. She can do some 460 00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:39,359 of this stuff. It's it's you know, I just don't 461 00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:43,119 you know, we don't know. But there there are so 462 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,599 many things that are so unexplained, which is why we 463 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,359 call the show what We Did, because it's really difficult 464 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,519 to really put a finger on everything. 465 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: Right. 466 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,279 Speaker 1: There's an Isaac Sir Isaac Newton quote that goes something 467 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,839 like what we know is a drop, or we don't 468 00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:03,559 know was an ocean? Right, And I believe that, and 469 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,559 I say this a number of times in my show. 470 00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,279 We probably don't even know what's going on around us, 471 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,799 right right next to us. You know, there's probably things 472 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:14,920 going and happening that we can't even imagine or know 473 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,640 or see or sense. 474 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: In with our census, no, apparently I mean, like with 475 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,880 what the pilots are seeing and what they're allowed to 476 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,640 talk about, and you know there are they have more, 477 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,319 there's more information. You know, these pilots have come forward 478 00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:30,680 with a certain amount. They released a couple of videos 479 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,440 for us, but they have a lot more information and 480 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,720 a lot more stuff that they've collected on these events. 481 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,119 So they know a lot more than we know. There 482 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,240 is a lot more going on than we understand that 483 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:44,160 we've been told. There's no doubt about that. 484 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's a percentage of people that absolutely 485 00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:52,319 have no idea that there was a front page story 486 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:56,480 in the New York Times in December twenty seventeen, or 487 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,759 they weren't watching the news, you know. For instance, I 488 00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:04,240 do run into those people and my cousin recently, like 489 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,599 she's rolling her eyes and I said, you'd never heard 490 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:10,559 about the Pentagon, saying, you know that these things are real, 491 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,119 whatever they are, they don't know what they are, but 492 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,920 they're real, and no, you know, she couldn't believe it. 493 00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,039 So there is that percentage, And I still think the 494 00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:20,480 word needs to get out. You know, people are very 495 00:27:20,519 --> 00:27:23,000 busy in their lives. They're looking at their phones, have 496 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,079 to you know, make the mortgage payment and you know, 497 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,240 their bills and things like that. A lot of people 498 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,720 don't even really pay attention to this, but there is 499 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:35,519 I do think it's a lot more than ever that 500 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,640 do at this point. But here's here's the question. I'm 501 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,160 going to post it either one of you and I'm 502 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,640 talking about the United States government. Don't you think it's 503 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,240 kind of unusual that they know this is happening and 504 00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:52,480 they're not spending like a fortune to figure it out. 505 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,839 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the fact of the matter is, we 506 00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:57,720 don't really know how much they're spending, right, I mean, 507 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,039 they build they built a bomb thirty years ago that 508 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,400 no one knew about, and they spent billions upon billions 509 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,640 doing that and we had no idea until they, you know, 510 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,599 unveiled the thing. And that was thirty years ago. So 511 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:10,839 what have they been spending money on the last thirty years? 512 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,720 So we really don't know. And certainly the one thing 513 00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:16,599 we do know is that the government is thick as 514 00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:22,160 these with the defense industry, you know, and those those corporations, 515 00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:27,319 don't you know, they don't have to they're not bound 516 00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:30,960 by the same transparency issues that the government is. So 517 00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:34,960 if the government's in cahoots with one of these big 518 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,720 defense contractors and they've put things there, or they've they've 519 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:41,640 tested things there, They've they've built things there, they've created 520 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,839 things there. We're never going to know that unless it's 521 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,079 unveiled to the public. So this is all part of 522 00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:54,839 you know, what we're learning, you know, post the go 523 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,480 Fast video and post the pilots coming out and saying, wait, 524 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:02,440 there is a program here. 525 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: There is money being spent. 526 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: And granted that an initial kind of disclosure was a 527 00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:10,480 very small amount of money in terms of the government, 528 00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:13,440 in terms of office tracking UFOs, that. 529 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that it hasn't been going on for years. 530 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,160 Absolutely deeper and deeper down. 531 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:18,359 Speaker 4: You know. 532 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:20,359 Speaker 3: I was talking again to Brian Bender and he's like, 533 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,480 you know, certainly there are people high up in the 534 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,519 in the Pentagon. They they have no clue what's you 535 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:30,880 know happening deep down in the bunkers. All right, there 536 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,160 was there was funded two decades ago. Right, it's it's 537 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,640 it's outside of their purview. 538 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,759 Speaker 1: So black money is disappearing, you know, I mean it's 539 00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:41,559 going somewhere exactly. 540 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,759 Speaker 4: You know how police tells us in the in the 541 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:49,039 show that stuff like Project blue Book. It didn't go away, 542 00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:52,119 it just went duped. They were still they could not 543 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,839 keep looking at these things. They had to keep going. 544 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,279 They just weren't telling anybody they were doing it, and 545 00:29:57,319 --> 00:29:59,240 they're not going to and they're not going to and 546 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:02,799 they don't have too because it's all in the case 547 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,799 of a national security they're not going to disclose these things, 548 00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:07,599 and that all that's all they have to say. It's 549 00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:10,440 because of national security. We can't tell you. I mean, 550 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,039 these pilots who are seeing these things that could be 551 00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:16,519 our technology, that it's a different department than nobody knows about. 552 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,720 You know, there's if so there is a lot of 553 00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:22,640 there's always going to be secrecy. There's always gonna be 554 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,480 somebody higher up, you know. And yes, but I think 555 00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:29,200 what we all would love it to be is it 556 00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:33,480 something else. It's it's something new that can that we've 557 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:35,640 got yet to find out. You know, we're going to 558 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,319 find out more and we're going to know more about 559 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,880 our existence because this all comes down to me, you know, 560 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,000 the question we always ask it says, why are we here? 561 00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:47,480 Maybe these guys will be able to tell us and 562 00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:51,119 maybe we get to live forever, because that's what we 563 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,519 really want to you know, with all this information, there's 564 00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:59,240 a lot of hope in what our futures might be. 565 00:30:59,839 --> 00:31:02,319 You know. So I think that that's why it's fascinates 566 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,759 so many people for so long, because that's what we all. 567 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,119 We will desire those things, you know, we want to 568 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,680 know more and we want it to be real. There 569 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,799 are you know, Star Trek was true. There's really people 570 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,079 on other planets. You just beamed down to their planet 571 00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:20,599 and there are people you know, e t was real. 572 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:24,880 It's all you know, Close Encounters was real. It's all fascinating, 573 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,799 it's wonderful stuff, and so much of that stuff comes through. 574 00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:31,079 I mean, look, somebody told me off the record, you 575 00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:37,160 know Roswell's for real. That happened, you know, so that 576 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,039 that's not that's something that's still mythical, but it really, 577 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,839 you know that that happened. There are things that continue 578 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,680 to happen. 579 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: You know. 580 00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 4: The remote viewing people remote viewing information that they saw. 581 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,400 They were able to describe information that didn't quite correlate 582 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,559 it like it was ninety percent correct, but there was 583 00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:03,119 something there was some buildings missing. Those buildings were there 584 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,000 ten years later, So they were remote viewing the future. 585 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,759 They were in it, So that gives you the dimensions 586 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:15,240 thing again, you know. So it I mean in every fashion, 587 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:19,079 from it being extra terrestrial to it being it's out 588 00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,519 something we can do with our minds. That we're expanding 589 00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:24,160 our minds to different places and experiencing things for those 590 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,400 reasons that we don't know how to control those for 591 00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:33,000 it to be anything fantastical, it's all fascinating and it's 592 00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:36,279 all unknown, and it's and that's the beauty of it. 593 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,640 We know we don't know, so we're open to all 594 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,319 these ideas. 595 00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:46,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, what you just mentioned there about someone confirming rise, well, 596 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,920 I had. I had a guest on the show. He 597 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,880 was in Peru. He was a marine in Peru in 598 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:57,440 nineteen ninety seven and they went there was a downed aircraft. 599 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,559 They didn't really know what it was. There was no 600 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,160 trans ponder. They went in the jungle with their hummers 601 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,119 and then on foot and came across this tear drape 602 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,640 drop shaped thing that was like wedged in a rock. 603 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,319 Fluid coming out of it, the whole craft changing colors, 604 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,319 liquid changing colors as well. He got some on his 605 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,839 shirt when he went up to it. There was a 606 00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:21,359 hand hanging out, which is even more bizarre. H he's 607 00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:24,079 only talked to two people, and that's myself and one 608 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:27,519 other James Fox and Leslie came you know, years ago. 609 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,839 He's talked to them in two thousand and one and 610 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,000 then he talked to me. Doesn't want to talk to 611 00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:35,799 anybody about it. He had men in black situation actually 612 00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:39,519 show up at his grandmother's house. You know, she described 613 00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:42,000 these very strange guys in a car. You know, one 614 00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:43,839 was sitting in the car and one came to the door. 615 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,359 But it goes on and on and on. But what 616 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,759 I'm getting at is I had a connection to David Grush. 617 00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:52,200 I did get to meet him, but I had a 618 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,160 connection to him, and he went and got back to 619 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,359 me and say, yes, that is a confirmed situation and 620 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,799 prou and ieen ninety seven. So it's you know, it's 621 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,799 nice to get some type of confirmation, you know. 622 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple of stories we cover in in 623 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,880 al Thing where you know, in the beach in Brazil 624 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:20,440 where they you know, suddenly there's this craft and this 625 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:24,599 leaked material and stuff that they've collected and that you know, 626 00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,559 if it was a secret program, why would they leave 627 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,400 it in Brazil, you know, on this beach in Brazil, 628 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,679 and you know another one, another one here in America. 629 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,119 There's all these different things that get confirmed by the 630 00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:38,519 people around them, and now they've actually got the materials 631 00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:41,679 at Jack Valet has a lot of these materials. Gary 632 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,480 Nolan's looked at these materials and dissected them and talked 633 00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:51,400 about them. So there are lots of tangible things that 634 00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:55,239 leave a lot of questions unanswered because it's not technology 635 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,760 is not a way we would have this materials. Wouldn't 636 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,679 we wouldn't mix them in this fashion. That's not how 637 00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:03,159 we would lately, these metals or whatever they are, right, 638 00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:06,960 they're they're not that the elements are foreign to us, 639 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,480 but they just won't be put together like. 640 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: This, that's right. Yeah, that's the metallurgy is. Yeah, there's 641 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,760 a lot of study in that, and you know, I mean, 642 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,079 who knows what we'll we'll find out, you know, I mean, 643 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,719 I guess I'm going to throw this question to either 644 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,480 one or you can answer it. What do you think 645 00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:28,280 would be a big enough of an issue for like 646 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,760 to say, the United States government to say, Okay, yeah, 647 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,159 they're they're this or they're that. Do you think that 648 00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:37,679 they would have to have that that you're talking about, 649 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,400 the evidence the metals very strange. Do you think that 650 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,719 would be enough or do you think it would have 651 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,119 to be a known craft because it's possible that there 652 00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:48,559 is already a craft or two or three or four 653 00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:49,119 or whatever. 654 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: But I mean, do you. 655 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: Think that in a public form? 656 00:35:54,679 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 3: I think if you listen to these pilots, you know, 657 00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:06,199 these things that are buzzing around them during these training 658 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,920 exercises that have been reported again and again and again 659 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,119 by the Navy, by the way, not the Air Force. 660 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,360 Air Force pilots they're training in the same places. You 661 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,480 would have to think they're seeing some of the same things. 662 00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:26,079 But I think if there's if there's an I don't 663 00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:27,920 want to predict it or suggest it, but if there 664 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,880 is an accident or if there's a problem right with 665 00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:36,119 a plane due to one of these things, I think 666 00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:39,760 that would that would cause a tremendous uproar. 667 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:42,119 Speaker 2: Right if there was some. 668 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: Unfortunate incident that happens that causes you know, a crash 669 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,559 or something to happen, Because that's why the pilots are reporting. 670 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: Them, right. They don't feel safe. 671 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 3: These things are flitting about up there and they're uncertain 672 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,000 about you know, what they're doing and what they're capable 673 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,559 of doing while they're flying three hundred miles an hour. 674 00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:07,840 So if there was something like that that happened, I 675 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,360 think you would you would find a lot more And 676 00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:14,480 it wouldn't even be necessarily our military. But if it 677 00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:19,280 was made public that any any military plane had some 678 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,039 sort of incident that caused you know, the plane to 679 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,800 go down or caused an accident of some sort, I 680 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,800 think you would you would find a lot more eyes 681 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,079 money information coming out about it. 682 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we have situations where that supposedly happened, 683 00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:37,280 but nothing you know, that has a lot of evidence. 684 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,719 It was a situation where a young pilot in Australia, 685 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,480 Villain Tech I think his name is. But I mean 686 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,119 there are cases but nothing where you know, that's always 687 00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:53,519 been the problem. It's been a fleeting situation and no 688 00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:57,440 grounded evidence, you know. I mean there are trace cases, 689 00:37:57,519 --> 00:38:01,920 lots of trace cases though, which are very interesting, but well. 690 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 4: I think it comes down to also this. I mean, 691 00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:08,960 if they are a threat to us, right and they're 692 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,079 here and they are some sort of threat, and they 693 00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:14,320 know about it, and they then suddenly say hey, yeah, 694 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,480 we didn't know about this. That's not going to shine 695 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,840 well on anybody. They can't admit we've known about this 696 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,119 awful threat for so long and we've you know, not 697 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:29,360 protected you by not telling you. So I think there's 698 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,519 that part of it where they wouldn't. I would say 699 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,000 it's more of a case is that they're not a threat, 700 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,079 And I think it's more a case of the the 701 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:42,000 institutions that get changed, the whole financial institutions to a 702 00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:44,719 lot of what's going on, the perception of it all 703 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,599 is completely different, and it's going to get changed, and 704 00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:51,480 I'm not sure that anybody really wants that to happen 705 00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:54,039 once everyone's lives to be up ended in that fashion. 706 00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:58,760 So will they come forward. It's difficult for the government 707 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,599 to say, yeah, we knew about it all the time. 708 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,360 They'd have to play alone with like, oh, well you know, yeah, 709 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,800 it would have to go that way, because otherwise there'd 710 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,960 be way too many questions. 711 00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd have a lot of explaining they would. 712 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be, it would be. It would be 713 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:15,800 one of those things. 714 00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:18,119 Speaker 3: In the meantime though, In the meantime, though, you had 715 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,719 I think what you see over the past five six, 716 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,840 seven years again with the with the stigma kind of 717 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,760 falling away somewhat m hm. And you know we talked 718 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,719 about the letter writers for Whitley Streeper. That was thirty 719 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,079 years ago, right, and you have, I think now, more 720 00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,280 opportunities for more people who have experienced things they can't 721 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:39,960 explain to. 722 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,679 Speaker 2: Talk about it. Oh yeah, and that number is growing. 723 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:42,920 You know. 724 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 3: You look at someone else we visited within our in 725 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,639 our series, Jay Christopher King. He's a young, younger guy 726 00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,519 who had an experience he couldn't explain, had multiple experiences 727 00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,840 he couldn't explain. And you know ten years ago, twenty 728 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,519 years ago, thirty years ago, he might have turned inward, 729 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,800 kept it to himself, become you know, a different person 730 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,840 in the world. But in this world we live in today, 731 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,079 in which you can put out your feelings and your 732 00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:12,360 thoughts to the rest of the world with a punch 733 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,599 of a button. Right, He's created a platform. Yes, It 734 00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:19,519 invites people who have had strange things happen in their 735 00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:22,719 lives to anonymously get on the platform and talk to 736 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,320 other people so that they have an outlet, so they 737 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,880 have some way to express these emotions that are going 738 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,679 through them about these things they can't explain. I think 739 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,039 that's fascinating and I think those numbers are going to 740 00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:39,280 grow and grow and grow. You know, when there was 741 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:44,280 a stigma, there was a lot more desire or not desire, 742 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,159 but there was a lot more isolation, yes, And I 743 00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:51,000 think removing that isolation, you know, is going to lead 744 00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:56,000 to a mood change across our population about what this is. 745 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,559 With more and more numbers of people who are open 746 00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:01,079 to trying to figure it out, you have less and 747 00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:05,760 less kind of standing in the way of the search 748 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:06,400 to figure it. 749 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: Out, right, right. Jay's great. I did get to meet 750 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,159 him and at the DC hearing. Actually he's been on 751 00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,360 the show as well. But yeah, I really like what 752 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,400 he's doing. And you know, I say this, I've never 753 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,679 had any you know, type of abduction thing, thank god, 754 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,920 because I would be a wreck. I don't know how 755 00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:29,519 I could function in life. So I think it's whatever 756 00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:32,800 is happening to these people, maybe it's even something else, 757 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,960 but they definitely need someone to share that with and 758 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:39,480 you know, share the burden of it and talk about 759 00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:42,320 it and you know, feel like they're not so alone 760 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,679 whatever it is that's happening. 761 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you think about John Mack and the 762 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,440 work he did in that space, and the first thing 763 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,639 he said he would say is like, these people don't 764 00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:52,320 want to be known. 765 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,079 Speaker 2: These people don't want to come forward. 766 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 3: This is not something that they want to you know, 767 00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,719 hang a flag outside their house and probably oh to the. 768 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 2: Rest of the world. Yeah, right, that's the last thing 769 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,400 they want. 770 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,639 Speaker 3: But to know that it's affecting multiple people, or multiple 771 00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:13,000 people are confirming that they believe an experience like that 772 00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,519 has happened to them, right, It's important for them to 773 00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:19,679 be able to speak to someone for them, So I 774 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,119 think it's a valuable. 775 00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:21,679 Speaker 4: Thing, right. 776 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 777 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: And you know, at a lot of the conferences they 778 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,519 will have you know, experiences meetings and they're very extremely 779 00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,960 well attended. Even I was up in Shack however, Nova 780 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,039 Scotia at an event up there a few weeks ago, 781 00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:43,440 and it's the the experienceers meetings start at seven thirty am, 782 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,599 and it was still packed. You know, you'd think that 783 00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:47,880 it wouldn't be so packed, but it was even at 784 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,360 that time. 785 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's because the new world we're in. 786 00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:52,360 I absolutely believe that. 787 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, And Paul I understand you're getting. Poor 788 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,519 Paul just had I don't even know if you wanted 789 00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:01,039 to say this, but you had surgery, Lee, and thank 790 00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:03,960 you for being a trooper. We're just about done, they'll Paul. 791 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just you know, doctor's orders don't take you 792 00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:08,639 passble a minute. 793 00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, I know you have to readjust yourself every 794 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,400 single so often. So let's talk about your episode one. 795 00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:20,079 It's premiering this Sunday at ten pm Eastern and Pacific, 796 00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:24,480 and that's October twenty seventh, and revelations of the secret 797 00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:27,239 Pentagon programs. That's what you kind of talk about in 798 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:33,079 that one. Episode two November three, and it's about UFO's 799 00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:36,199 machines in the skies jockh Valais and that one, and 800 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:41,960 also Whitley Strieber. And then three is November tenth, and 801 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,960 I'm going to have links in the show notes to 802 00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:47,679 this and down in the text and academics and scientists. 803 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,440 I love that that particular theme, and I know Gary Nolan, 804 00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:55,239 like you mentioned, is involved in that. And episode four 805 00:43:55,559 --> 00:44:02,880 is November seventeenth, and that is Mavericks that unexplained phenomenon 806 00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:05,280 like remote viewing. They get into all those other type 807 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,079 of things. Uh, so this is what you call a 808 00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:12,840 limited series. I guess do you actually want to continue this? 809 00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 2: Is that a thought? 810 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 3: Well, that's the magic of this whole uh, this whole 811 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,199 topic is that there's so many unanswered questions and there's 812 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,480 so many strange things in our world that really if 813 00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:28,360 you dig deep enough or really about us, about you know, 814 00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:32,920 being human, and so I think we'd love to keep going. 815 00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:35,400 I think that there are a lot of other doors 816 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,719 and portals that lead to these questions about human life. Yeah, 817 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,519 there's one of them, and it's a great one, but 818 00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:43,239 it's not the only one that's right exactly. 819 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,559 Speaker 4: And so it's ever evolving. While we've been making the show. 820 00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:50,159 More information's coming to light. But we didn't get the 821 00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,920 show because we would have dealt with production. But you know, 822 00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:57,000 we could have made four more episodes with what's come 823 00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:59,239 to light, you know, in the last six months. So 824 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,519 it's all He's always plenty to talk about on this subject, 825 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,719 and it's just completely fascinates more and more. The more 826 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,639 you look into all of these things, it just wants 827 00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:14,079 you to just tell me more, tell me more, because 828 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,880 you've just made me think about a lot more other questions. 829 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,039 Now that's good. 830 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,639 Speaker 1: I'm doing my job. Yeah, yeah, So I'm gonna play 831 00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:24,159 the trailer here. We're going to run the trailer and 832 00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:29,840 then I'll be right back to say goodbye. As a 833 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,079 fighter pilot, and when we were a flying it looked 834 00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,400 like a dark queue inside of a clear sphere. 835 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 4: The pentagon'sman line to us about UFOs, these cases often 836 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,920 don't see the light of day. 837 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,519 Speaker 2: People are taking uros more silius streak. 838 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,679 Speaker 1: Now they're of documented incidents, recording something out there. 839 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 4: It's the biggest new story in the history of man. 840 00:45:57,159 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: There it is, and so catch it day on the 841 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,159 twenty seventh at ten pm. Thank you both so much. 842 00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:06,639 It's been a real pleasure. And good luck and. 843 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 4: You well, thank you, continue on. 844 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Martin, you as well, all right, 845 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:11,760 you too. 846 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 4: I've really enjoyed this. Thank you very much. 847 00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: Excellent, thank you bright down all right, so we'll be 848 00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:22,559 back tuesday, and thank you so much everyone, and remember 849 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,440 to keep your eyes to the sky.