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<v Speaker 1>Baby, I'm a gangstato.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes at a tangle. You don't want mess with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Mess with me, baby, I'm a gangsteratu.

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<v Speaker 2>Pach Baby, you're a game statue for good warning.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast is designed to take you outside of your

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<v Speaker 3>comfort zone and make you question reality listening Discretion is

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<v Speaker 3>a vibe fellas.

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<v Speaker 1>This ain't my first time at the rodeos. Alright, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it is. It's the Cosmic Peach Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And tonight our guest is so when you may recognize

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<v Speaker 1>from a past episode, the Vampire Priestess episode, we have

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<v Speaker 1>Rye from Codega's Codex of Curiosities, which is a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting name. Actually, I like it. I like it. You don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't give too much away.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. It's a it's got a lot a lot

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<v Speaker 2>in the name, you know. And I like that it

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<v Speaker 2>had curiosities because I I'm always drawn to curiosities, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there was always like the what do they

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<v Speaker 2>call those, the like I don't want to say the

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<v Speaker 2>freak show, but you know, like you go in and

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<v Speaker 2>check out these strange, strange things that you you just

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<v Speaker 2>never seen before, and you you want to go and

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<v Speaker 2>so that's where I came with the Curiosities, but the Codega,

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<v Speaker 2>that Moniker has kind of stuck with me for a

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<v Speaker 2>while and I finally got to put it to use,

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<v Speaker 2>So I was quite happy with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, it's like a lot of podcast names.

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<v Speaker 1>They it's all in the title, you know, Nephelum, Death Squad,

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy whatever. With yours, it's kind of like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly am I going to discover?

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<v Speaker 2>What am I? What am I in for? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And for those who don't know, like I'll give a

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<v Speaker 2>brief history of the Codega. Codega was in Venice, Italy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was a guide that would guide people around

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<v Speaker 2>the fourteenth to the sixteenth century. He would guide people

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<v Speaker 2>with a lantern through the dark alleys in Venice, keeping

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<v Speaker 2>away thieves, criminals, ghosts, and demons, and then along the

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<v Speaker 2>way he would pass on he would tell them stories

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<v Speaker 2>and he would also hear stories from his guests as well,

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<v Speaker 2>the people that he would be protecting, and he would

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<v Speaker 2>take them from someplace to someplace safe, you know, take

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<v Speaker 2>them home or something like that. So that Monika, I

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<v Speaker 2>just like that this guide who is walking you, keeping

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<v Speaker 2>you safe along your journey and imparting some knowledge and

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<v Speaker 2>some wisdom along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the name even more now there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>No idea, but that was I was like, that could

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<v Speaker 1>be like his uncle or something.

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<v Speaker 2>As my daughter originally thought it was bodega, like bodega

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<v Speaker 2>where you go and get something and so and so

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuck in a way that I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be my merch store name. You know, likedgas

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<v Speaker 2>codegas bodega.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually really cool. I like that. Well, so thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us. I'm really glad to have you here.

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<v Speaker 1>When we worked together last time, we talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>Vampire Priestess. But after we were finished recording, we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of visited for a while, and you know, a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of we just talked about all kinds of stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was one thing in particular, and I wish we

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<v Speaker 1>would maybe not because I want it for my own show,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, we weren't recording, but you were telling me

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<v Speaker 1>about this vision you had one day, and I literally

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<v Speaker 1>got like straight up goose bumps, like by the time

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<v Speaker 1>you got to the end of the story, because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, people can have visions and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just like a ha loose Nasian or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the real is shit. So I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly did you see?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is and this even freaked me out because

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<v Speaker 2>I was starting to get a little terrified at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of all of this. Now, and this didn't last

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<v Speaker 2>a short time. This was like possibly fifteen minutes in total.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had just pulled up to this this local

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<v Speaker 2>supermarket here, just it's very small and I needed to

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<v Speaker 2>get some things from the deli. So I as I parked,

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<v Speaker 2>my vision starts to get distorted. And now this is

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<v Speaker 2>where they kind of have a medical scientific explanation for it,

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<v Speaker 2>which would be called an ocular migraine. So what happened

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<v Speaker 2>is I started getting this and people call it as

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<v Speaker 2>a kaleidoscope, but I don't call it a kaleidoscope because

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<v Speaker 2>coliscope is all throughout your whole vision. What this was

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<v Speaker 2>was lines. I started seeing these lines of immense bright

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<v Speaker 2>light and it wasn't white, say, it was like fluctuating

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<v Speaker 2>between pinks and purples and oranges and yellows as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was rolling on itself, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So think of you have one line and it started

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<v Speaker 2>from the left, was it started from the Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>started from the left small and it opened up large

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<v Speaker 2>to the right, and it was like a triangular shape

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<v Speaker 2>and it was in all intensities purposes, a rip in

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<v Speaker 2>my reality. Okay, So this started to form, and some

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<v Speaker 2>people describe this as an ocular migraine. Now their actual

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge of what an ocular migraine, and it is nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, well, it doesn't have any pain. You just

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<v Speaker 2>see these kaleidoscope of colors. Fair enough, that's and if

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<v Speaker 2>that's all that happened, I would say, Okay, well I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I had an ocular migraine, and I will call

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<v Speaker 2>it off to that. So I'm walking through the store

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<v Speaker 2>and this is starting to take up about fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of my vision. Okay. So it's this rip that I

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<v Speaker 2>see from left to right, this triangular and I'm standing

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<v Speaker 2>in line at the deli now, and I checked my

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<v Speaker 2>eyes and by doing that, I closed one eye and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm holding my fingers over it. I'm doing it right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and I could still see it. So then I switched

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<v Speaker 2>eyes and I could still see it, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is going on? One thing I never did was

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<v Speaker 2>close both eyes and see if I could still see it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, what is going on and that's when

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<v Speaker 2>I started to actually see through this. Okay, So it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like there was just this bright colors and yay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the end of it. This is where things change.

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<v Speaker 2>So I start to see theory of this, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can see, I would say, clear as day, as if

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<v Speaker 2>I was just looking across the street and seeing the

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<v Speaker 2>house next door. And what I saw was the ground

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<v Speaker 2>was strewn full of rubble. And this was okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>it was ground was strewn full of rubble. I from

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<v Speaker 2>where I was looking, it looked as if I was

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<v Speaker 2>in some sort of industrial warehouse or a warehouse of sorts.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see cinder block walls on my left hand side.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, like I said, the ground was strewn with rubble.

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<v Speaker 2>It looked like broken cinder blocks at best, if I

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<v Speaker 2>could guess what it was. Though they weren't sharp edges.

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<v Speaker 2>They were kind of rounded, slightly rounded, so you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell that they have been broken for a while. Then

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<v Speaker 2>on the right hand side and up, I can see

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<v Speaker 2>the sky and I can see clouds whipping by. Now

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<v Speaker 2>directly ahead of me, I can also see and this

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<v Speaker 2>is much further in the distance. If I had to gauge,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm not good with feet and all, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would say maybe like a one hundred to one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty feet in front of me are these large

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<v Speaker 2>industrial sized fans, and they're each in a box unit

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<v Speaker 2>with a cage front on it. The fans are slowly

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<v Speaker 2>and just some things details I picked up the clan.

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<v Speaker 2>The fans were slowly turning in a counterclockwise manner. They're

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<v Speaker 2>just slowly just turning now. The and I know hink

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<v Speaker 2>it was I'm not sure maybe but Nick or something

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<v Speaker 2>who said, was it Sepia? Did you see in Sepia?

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<v Speaker 2>And and I don't know if it was really Sepia.

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<v Speaker 2>But every color was like this brown and rust color.

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<v Speaker 2>The clouds were as well, like the clouds were whitish,

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<v Speaker 2>but like where they were darker. It was this brown,

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<v Speaker 2>rusty color. The ground was strewn with this as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and the big box fans in the back were the same.

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<v Speaker 2>The walls were like this. They were darker, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's what I saw. And on the right I

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<v Speaker 2>actually never really said this much, but there was like

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<v Speaker 2>the wall was blown out on the right hand side,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was no wall on that side. I did

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<v Speaker 2>see a ceiling as well, a partial ceiling. If you

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<v Speaker 2>ask me what it was, I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 2>was like tin or something else like that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Now I'm standing in line seeing all this

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<v Speaker 2>at the deli, trying to order, trying to pretend that

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<v Speaker 2>everything is cool and normal, though I can't see really

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<v Speaker 2>the lady that I'm talking to. I can't even see

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<v Speaker 2>this lady, and I'm like, okay, you know, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ordering in Spanish. You know, I want bacon and I

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<v Speaker 2>want cheese. And then I like walking back through the

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<v Speaker 2>aisles and I can see out the periphery of my eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>so I know that I'm in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>eh and I go on, pay duo.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel like you were going to have like

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<v Speaker 1>a panic attack? Though, seeing like being in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the store, that's gotta be horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, so I've had a panic There was a time,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe like five six years ago, where I had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of panic attacks in a row, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>what those are, and I would say that I felt

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<v Speaker 2>very anxious and very terrified and scared, but I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>having a panic attack. It was nothing like that, though,

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<v Speaker 2>But because that was intense, I'm not saying that this

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't either. This was very intense, but it felt different.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like it was intriguing at first. It was

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<v Speaker 2>intriguing at first, but then it started become a little

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<v Speaker 2>scary because this is not going away. And now my

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<v Speaker 2>point of view within this where I was looking through

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<v Speaker 2>never changed. Okay, so even if I was moving in

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<v Speaker 2>this world, that world was like a fixed I had

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<v Speaker 2>a fixed vision of what I was seeing. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was it was very realistic, like there was

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<v Speaker 2>not like, okay, I think this is happening. Oh I

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<v Speaker 2>see this in my mind's I know now, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention to it all the time because I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pay attention to the periphery. So I'm not focusing

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<v Speaker 2>on that. I'm trying to pay attention to the world

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm in right now so I can actually interact,

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<v Speaker 2>pay for my stuff, get in my car and drive,

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<v Speaker 2>which was you know, yeah, I was about a block

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<v Speaker 2>about a block away from home, so I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>need I just need to get home. That was in

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<v Speaker 2>my mind. I'm like, I need to get home, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to get safe. And so I paid for my cheese,

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<v Speaker 2>my bacon, walked to the car and I'm driving, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of like, try even but you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>move your head to peer around, but you can't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just have to kind of like remain your

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<v Speaker 2>head still and focus on the outsides of the outskirts

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<v Speaker 2>of your vision to see what you're seeing. Now, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't very busy and I didn't run into really any

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<v Speaker 2>traffic or anything like that, so it was nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about. But yeah, and I parked the car, went

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<v Speaker 2>inside and and I I told my wife, I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to lay down. I think I I think

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<v Speaker 2>I have a headache. I didn't know what I had.

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<v Speaker 2>from me. And within a minute to a minute and

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<v Speaker 1>And you didn't, just for the listener's sake, you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>This, right exactly, Yes, yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So what it sounds like is like we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it before, but almost kind of like a post apocalyptic

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<v Speaker 1>And so what do you take from seeing this, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>another world that exists alongside ours. I actually believe that

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<v Speaker 2>the When something I saw that was kind of similar

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<v Speaker 2>to rescue that woman. That landscape of Hell it was

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<v Speaker 2>much more intense, but it was similar to what I

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<v Speaker 2>saw as well, Like I feel that these spirits are

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<v Speaker 2>inhabiting this wasteland, the suppost apocalyptic wasteland. And if those

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<v Speaker 2>people who don't know what disembodied spirits are, these are

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<v Speaker 2>the spirits of the dead Nephalo, because they are cursed

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<v Speaker 2>to wander the land. They thirst, but can never quench

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<v Speaker 2>that thirst. They hunger, but can never satisfy their hunger.

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<v Speaker 2>And they will they they just looking and looking, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's why we get and again this is all speculation.

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<v Speaker 2>That is why we get possessions, because these spirits are

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<v Speaker 2>looking to possess us so that they can satisfy their hunger,

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<v Speaker 2>they can quench their thirst, they can experience the world

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<v Speaker 2>as we know it. We can see this beautiful world.

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<v Speaker 2>We look out the window, we see you know, trees

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<v Speaker 2>and this blue sky. And it's to escape this wasteland

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmmm. I know you had on Gary Wayne, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's a wealth of information. I've learned so much from

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. But he's he always said to me that

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<v Speaker 1>every ancient culture throughout history has the flood story. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and after after the flood, there was this place that

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<v Speaker 1>you saw, this wasteland, this post apocalyptic, you know, horrible

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<v Speaker 1>place that was created to send these souls to of

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<v Speaker 1>the Nephilem, and they're constantly looking for someone to possess

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<v Speaker 1>because they're trapped there unless they can find somebody. And

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<v Speaker 1>what I also feel like is true is some of

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<v Speaker 1>the I don't want to say like elite, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably who it is. I feel like you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be elite to conjure one of these spirits up,

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<v Speaker 1>but they actually want to be possessed because they feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they'll get some type of like power or magic

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<v Speaker 1>or something by letting these beings like inhabit their bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I mean, what do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I haven't thought too much about it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do have some opinions on it though that I do

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<v Speaker 2>believe that is possible. You know. They it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a symbia type of relationship where Okay, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to allow you in and you give me this, and

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<v Speaker 2>I give you this earthly world as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I give you access to this. I do believe that

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<v Speaker 2>it's completely possible. And we've seen that how many times

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<v Speaker 2>in movies, you know. I believe movies are not only

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<v Speaker 2>like a soft disclosure, but they're also I believe some

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<v Speaker 2>people believe it's all soft disclosure in Hollywood in these movies,

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<v Speaker 2>but I and my friend Brad from the Awaken podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>we are on a bit of an understanding as well

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<v Speaker 2>that it's not just soft disclosure, but it's also trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get people to imagine that this is a reality,

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<v Speaker 2>that we actually manifest that reality then as well. But sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I digress back to your question. Is I totally believe

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<v Speaker 2>that there are people that are and I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>using the word deep state or anything like that because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that those as soon as we discover something,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that it is stolen and tainted from us

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<v Speaker 2>just to just to muddy the waters so that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have you know, it loses, it loses, it's it's forced.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like, okay, we'll call it deep state.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's calling it deep state, and they just do that

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<v Speaker 2>out of a joke, you know, just to to make

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<v Speaker 2>this of a joke, and then it makes us look

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<v Speaker 2>more of like a joke as well. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>do believe that possessions happen as a partnership as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and I and I feel that possessions happen a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more than we give, you know, give credit to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say a Wigi boorg. You're you're working with a

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<v Speaker 2>Wigi boarg. What is happening. Your hands are moving the

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<v Speaker 2>plan chet right, so that means you're inviting these spirits

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<v Speaker 2>into It's kind of like a very light type of possession.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're moving your hands without you really knowing to

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<v Speaker 2>to spell out these messages and to give you messages

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<v Speaker 2>that that, of course are there's truth to them, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a it just a gateway to something else. Completely.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminds me of the Marvel movie Venom. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get some type of exchange with this being that

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<v Speaker 1>you let inhabit your body, and they always are like

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<v Speaker 1>craving flesh and stuff in these movies. It makes you

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<v Speaker 1>like blood thirsty. And I don't know, I just I've

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<v Speaker 1>done a lot of research on the nepheline, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how far into it you are, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, full on. I think that you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>have created like biological vessels for these things to enter

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<v Speaker 1>into to interact in the physical world. I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they are totally aware of their existence

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<v Speaker 1>and that they've been trying to get them over here

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<v Speaker 1>so they could even gain It's like they're all you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not all powerful, but they have like all this wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff that they want to like get from these beings.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean if you think they've been around since

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of time, so that's how they get you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's they can tell you things. They could probably

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<v Speaker 1>predict the future and all this stuff. But so I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that you have an episode about like witchcraft and

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<v Speaker 1>Wika and stuff like that. I mean, where do you

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<v Speaker 1>draw the line between like evil and not Like you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the Ouiji board, right, yeah, I think anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>use one of those things, you could be contacting a

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<v Speaker 1>neflam spirit, a demon, I mean, and they'll come across

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<v Speaker 1>you like, oh, you know it's your dead granny or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean what I saw that episode and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just curious, like what do you think about stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's a very difficult road. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>I think, if we have the right intention, we're given

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of tools. Okay, but it's what we do

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<v Speaker 2>with those tools now. We shouldn't use divination divination such

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<v Speaker 2>as like the Louisi board. I think is it's exactly I'm

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<v Speaker 2>completely along with you on this one where I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that yeah, it's your dead grandma. Well, of course they

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<v Speaker 2>know everything. They've been watching, you know, hence called the watchers.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's the fallen ones, not the Nephileine, but

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<v Speaker 2>that is what they do. They watch, they know. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they can read your mind and tell you everything

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<v Speaker 2>that you have. These have questions for so they can

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<v Speaker 2>try to convince you to get in there. But so

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I believe that you can call things differently, but

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<v Speaker 2>we could still be worships being the same true God. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so wicca and witches. There are some that I believe

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<v Speaker 2>are evil. They are are black magic. There are other

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<v Speaker 2>ones that are you know, they have these and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't say good intentions, but they're actually doing good. They're actually,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, create aiding tinctures.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're they're creating I don't want to say potions

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<v Speaker 2>because that sounds they do.

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<v Speaker 1>They they have stuff like I've been to the store,

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<v Speaker 1>the store. I mean, they have these little shops and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you can go you get crystals. They have little

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you crystals like everyone's like, oh, be

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<v Speaker 2>careful of crystals. Why that is of that that is

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<v Speaker 2>a natural device. That is something that is natural device.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like it's a natural mineral, it's a natural product.

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<v Speaker 1>That was creat to use that way though.

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<v Speaker 2>Now yeah, but now if you use this to put

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<v Speaker 2>pour your evil intentions into and then pass it off

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<v Speaker 2>to someone, then then yeah, then then you're you have

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<v Speaker 2>evil intentions and you are you are evil kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But like there is I have a friend in the

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<v Speaker 2>next city over. She they call herself like the Green

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<v Speaker 2>Witch or or the White Witch, and she and her

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<v Speaker 2>daughter they create tintures and they're of the Christian you

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<v Speaker 2>know that they're Christians. But they go out and they

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<v Speaker 2>work the land. And I believe that's something that we

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<v Speaker 2>have forgotten. We think that, you know, working with herbs

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<v Speaker 2>and creating cures for ailments is something that's bad, but

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<v Speaker 2>it isn't. That is working with you know, natural products.

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<v Speaker 2>I think working with anything natural and trying to help

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<v Speaker 2>to help someone else is good. But if you start

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<v Speaker 2>worshiping you know, false idols per se, then I say

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<v Speaker 2>you better watch where you're where you're treading.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one hundred percent with you, and I think for

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<v Speaker 1>the longest time I thought that all crystals must be

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<v Speaker 1>evil because everything we know has been corrupted in a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a way. So it's like they give

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<v Speaker 1>you a tool and then they tell you how to

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<v Speaker 1>use it, and then you know it welcomes something bad

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<v Speaker 1>into your life because you're not using it right. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming around to the idea of thinking like everything

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<v Speaker 1>could be a tool in your tool bag that you use,

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<v Speaker 1>and it depends on what your intention is behind you

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<v Speaker 1>using these tools. Except for a ogi boarder, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's good in any capacity.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they're just available at Toys r us no

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<v Speaker 2>problems or you know. That's where I first got mine,

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<v Speaker 2>was that Toys r US. I was there when I

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<v Speaker 2>was like sixteen years old and with my sisters and

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<v Speaker 2>we bought it and it ramped things up in our house,

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<v Speaker 2>Like our house was already had some issues, and it

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<v Speaker 2>went crazy. It went crazy after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, are you familiar with Ed and Lorraine Warren, those

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<v Speaker 1>paranormal investigator They were like the og paranormal investigators.

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<v Speaker 2>Were they the ones who investigated investigated the amit Amititeville

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<v Speaker 2>horror House?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, okay, so they did. There's they've made a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of movies about them, but like The Conjuring Annabelle,

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<v Speaker 1>Amityville Horror, those are all based on real stories of Edin,

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<v Speaker 1>Lorraine Warren and the Exorcist. Actually, so, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>little boy somewhere I think it was Saint Louis but

418
00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Eden Lorraine Warren went to their house and they said, well,

419
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<v Speaker 1>he got a demon in him from playing with a

420
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<v Speaker 1>Wigi board. And that story went so viral, and they

421
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<v Speaker 1>had these two on the news and da da da

422
00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:29.839
<v Speaker 1>da da, And they said the year that they made

423
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:35.640
<v Speaker 1>that story go viral, about this kid, Ouiji boards like

424
00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:39.559
<v Speaker 1>sold off the shelves. So you almost have to wonder,

425
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>like are things sensationalized to get people interested in certain things?

426
00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they put it on the news, they put

427
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<v Speaker 1>it on talk shows, they put it. Then they made

428
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<v Speaker 1>the movie obviously, and you know they're selling them at

429
00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:58.759
<v Speaker 1>toy stores. Even so, it just makes you it's a

430
00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:02.440
<v Speaker 1>story about a possess, a demon possessed person, and all

431
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>it did was make people want to go out and

432
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<v Speaker 1>buy one and do it for themselves to find out,

433
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:11.240
<v Speaker 1>like it's literally like programming your mind.

434
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<v Speaker 2>Oh it is, and people are inherently curious the name

435
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:20.279
<v Speaker 2>of the show. But that is the thing is sometimes

436
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>if you're told something, you're like, I got to see

437
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:26.079
<v Speaker 2>it with my own eyes. And sometimes that they're like,

438
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:31.640
<v Speaker 2>oh this is or some people don't, they don't give

439
00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:35.599
<v Speaker 2>enough credence. They're just like, yeah, this is hilarious, let's

440
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.000
<v Speaker 2>just do this, you know, and it's they don't know

441
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:40.960
<v Speaker 2>what they're actually playing with. They're playing with fire, and

442
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:45.160
<v Speaker 2>that's what's happening. It's like some guys will go and

443
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.039
<v Speaker 2>do it because they want to impress the girls. Look

444
00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:47.720
<v Speaker 2>at me, look at me.

445
00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>You know.

446
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:52.519
<v Speaker 2>It's that that testosterone egotist kind of thing, those young

447
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>foolish people that go and do that, and it's it's

448
00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.319
<v Speaker 2>something that should not be, you know, thought off lightly

449
00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.079
<v Speaker 2>at all. And because you, like you said, like those

450
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:07.160
<v Speaker 2>tools those things can be well that specifically wi you wore,

451
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I think is is very nefarious. You're you're opening the

452
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>door for something you can't see. It's like randomly calling someone,

453
00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.680
<v Speaker 2>but calling someone in a prison actually and hoping you

454
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<v Speaker 2>get someone who is who is kind and nice. Yeah, good,

455
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:24.640
<v Speaker 2>good luck with that. I don't think that's going to happen.

456
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<v Speaker 3>Now.

457
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:28.599
<v Speaker 2>You said something earlier and I wanted to respond to it.

458
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<v Speaker 2>So you said that with the nephileine, like they're making

459
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:38.279
<v Speaker 2>these empty kind of things for the nephiline and have it.

460
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<v Speaker 2>I want to take it one step further. Something that

461
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:46.799
<v Speaker 2>I believe is the hybrid hybridization of aliens and humans.

462
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.240
<v Speaker 2>I believe is that exactly that is the process that's happening.

463
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:55.599
<v Speaker 2>So they hybridize these humans. So but they're born soulless, okay,

464
00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.240
<v Speaker 2>and that is where they put and this is this

465
00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:01.519
<v Speaker 2>is just speculation, but for I'm hearing so many stories

466
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:03.880
<v Speaker 2>that I've had on my show, I'm coming up with

467
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:06.079
<v Speaker 2>this theory that that's what they're doing. They're creating these

468
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>empty shells so that they could be the Nephelin. Disembodied

469
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 2>spirits can re enter the world. But that's not it

470
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.039
<v Speaker 2>doesn't end. It doesn't end there. But wait, there's more.

471
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Is that I believe that they are trying to get

472
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:27.880
<v Speaker 2>back into heaven like it is a secret unlock, back

473
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:31.119
<v Speaker 2>door entrance to try to get back in because now

474
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:34.079
<v Speaker 2>we're embodying a human body. Now perhaps I have a

475
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>second chance of getting in, and could that start a

476
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Speaker 2>secondary you know, war in the heavens. I don't know.

477
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.440
<v Speaker 2>This is just a just a thought that I've been

478
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:45.680
<v Speaker 2>having that that I love it.

479
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I love it. You know what I thought, Well, it

480
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>could go with your theory. Actually, okay, that the grays

481
00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that people see are these empty biological vessels for the

482
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 1>spirits of these neflam to inhabit. But they could have

483
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:09.079
<v Speaker 1>been like a prototype for what you're talking about, because

484
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>now they want to get them to be able to

485
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.640
<v Speaker 1>interact in the world. Right, you can't just send a

486
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 1>gray to the White House, but you can if it's

487
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 1>a human body, Yes, and it's like one of these

488
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>spirits coming into it.

489
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:27.640
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I agree with you with the grace. They

490
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:32.680
<v Speaker 2>are these suits of sorts, you know, biological suits that

491
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.440
<v Speaker 2>can be you know, you can enter into these suits

492
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>and function and control it and possibly even with consciousness

493
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>as well. So if you know, I could remotely like VR,

494
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 2>put on a VR headset and now I'm fully integrated

495
00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 2>with this with a gray, so I don't even have

496
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.480
<v Speaker 2>to be there to be able to interact and to

497
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 2>do this. But yeah, I agree. And then if they're

498
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 2>not because usually a lot of times the smaller grays

499
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:01.720
<v Speaker 2>are kind of more robotic, and there's like taller grades actually,

500
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:05.519
<v Speaker 2>and those ones have more of a personality to them

501
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>from what I've heard from experiences. So perhaps the taller

502
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>ones are being operated by another being. I don't know.

503
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>So the people that you've talked to have they had

504
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>like overwhelmingly negative experiences, I would imagine.

505
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I would say ninety percent of them do. Even some

506
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 2>of them that have negative experiences, though some of them

507
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.039
<v Speaker 2>will like kind of think it's a good experience in

508
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:38.839
<v Speaker 2>a way, but yeah, ninety percent of them have had

509
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 2>negative experiences with these. And let me tell you that

510
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.839
<v Speaker 2>if you are being abducted, that means you are being

511
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.359
<v Speaker 2>taken against your will. That is something evil. I don't

512
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>care who you are or what you believe they are.

513
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>That is like, that is evil. Now, with that being said,

514
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.839
<v Speaker 2>my belief of the aliens is is that they are

515
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 2>connected into this. All they are connected to possibly the

516
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>fallen you know, the fallen angels or the Watchers or

517
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:15.119
<v Speaker 2>the Nephilme of sorts. But if there is there always

518
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.119
<v Speaker 2>has to be a balance. So there's good and there

519
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:20.400
<v Speaker 2>has to be like if there's evil, there has to

520
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 2>be good. So I do believe that there are good

521
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>beings out there. You know, the angels heavenly angels, but

522
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>they're under rules that they're not supposed to interact with us.

523
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 2>That is not what they're supposed to do, you know.

524
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:40.480
<v Speaker 2>They it's kind of like what is that the Star Trek?

525
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, the prime directive is to not interfere with

526
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:46.359
<v Speaker 2>a with a civilization. I believe that is exactly kind

527
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>of what they do as well. They they will like

528
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.359
<v Speaker 2>not interfere. They're not going to abduct you. They will

529
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.880
<v Speaker 2>not interfere, but sometimes they do. Sometimes they do not

530
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 2>abduct you, but sometimes they they help a situation.

531
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Or send you messages or well, you know, and it's

532
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like these other guys, not heavenly angels, but like these

533
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>fallen ones. They're playing by their own rules. You know.

534
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>That's where you get like abductions and crazy stuff like

535
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 1>experimentation and like doing all this because they have no

536
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>one to answer to that they are playing by their

537
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>own rules. And you know, I would I've always felt

538
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that way about abduction because it's like you said, sometimes

539
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:30.799
<v Speaker 1>people will say, well, you know, I'm glad I had

540
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.559
<v Speaker 1>the experience or like whatever, and they try to find

541
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>like a silver lining. But would they say that if

542
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>if some random guy broke into their house in the

543
00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>middle of the night and took their kid for a

544
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.359
<v Speaker 1>couple hours and brought them back. It's like, oh, but

545
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.319
<v Speaker 1>let's look at the silver lining. Did at least they

546
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't rape them, Like what are you talking about? Like

547
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 1>this was an abduction? Like this is bad, this is

548
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>not okay.

549
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree totally. And I never actually thought of

550
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.319
<v Speaker 2>wording it like that or bringing that analogy in. But

551
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Speaker 2>that's a great analogy. It's perfect. It's perfect, you know,

552
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>it's just not okay. Now you can take that experience,

553
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 2>even though it was negative, and you can say that

554
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>helped shape my life and it was. I I'm as

555
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:19.000
<v Speaker 2>bad as an experience. It wasn't glad I had it

556
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:20.960
<v Speaker 2>because now I am who I am today. Now I

557
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 2>know everything that I know because of what happened, and

558
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>now i'm, you know, fighting for the truth or doing

559
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>something like that. Okay, that works, but being abducted and

560
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 2>being experimented on sometimes it's not a good thing. It's

561
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:36.079
<v Speaker 2>not a good thing at all.

562
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that they're harvesting Obviously they're doing something,

563
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.519
<v Speaker 1>so in my opinion, they've got to be like harvesting

564
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>DNA and stuff, because how could you then create a

565
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>human vessel without getting something from us, you know, because

566
00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>we have divine DNA, you know, it's from God. We

567
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>have the ga GI we have you know, the guy

568
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>who discovered the double helix shape of human DNA, Francis Crick,

569
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>He was like, I don't know where DNA comes from, honestly,

570
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:16.279
<v Speaker 1>because there's no explanation for it whatsoever. And he thought

571
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that we were aliens because he said, there's got to

572
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>be something else going on here, because there's no reason

573
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>whatsoever for us to have this type of DNA. And

574
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>so I think that they're trying to siphon that off,

575
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 1>create these these empty vessels, and they're using it to

576
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's like you said, to grow babies or something,

577
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>so they can that that.

578
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Is exactly what is happening. Now. I've talked to two

579
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>people who have been adopted abducted specifically for that purpose.

580
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if you ever talked to Karen Wilkinson,

581
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>she's written the book Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest. I believe

582
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 2>you guys have talked Vicky Vicky joy Anderson recently. So

583
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Vicky works with Karen like like this, Uh, they're really

584
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>good friends. And so Karen has written this book because

585
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.840
<v Speaker 2>she's she was a lifelong abductee and she was abducted

586
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and impregnated multiple times and then they took it out.

587
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.079
<v Speaker 2>There's she even has like medical proof that she was

588
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.239
<v Speaker 2>pregnant and then there was no pregnancy anymore. And this

589
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:29.039
<v Speaker 2>was approximately I think she said it was like after

590
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.119
<v Speaker 2>two It was very a short time, like two months,

591
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:35.320
<v Speaker 2>might be even less than that. And then they they

592
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 2>removed the embryo and uh, yeah, so this has happened.

593
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>And she says that she actually met her high bred children.

594
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it was two of them, yes, And and

595
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I know it sounds it sounds crazy to some people.

596
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>They might be like, what that that's that's crazy.

597
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:58.599
<v Speaker 2>And then I interviewed another person, raf Rafael Skits Rafael

598
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the Skits Lugo. He is he was a rapper and

599
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 2>after he's had these experiences, he used them to actually

600
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:11.280
<v Speaker 2>change it. Now he does like this motivational hip hop

601
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 2>almost or this motivational rapp it's really good. But he

602
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:18.480
<v Speaker 2>has talked about being abducted multiple times and that he

603
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 2>at one time he was brought into like this nursery

604
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:27.440
<v Speaker 2>and given this baby that looked humanish, but not so.

605
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:31.239
<v Speaker 2>He says. The eyes were like black and a little

606
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 2>bit larger as well. And the mental image he was

607
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 2>given to by the by like the caretaker, like the babysitter,

608
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say a babysitter, but like the

609
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:45.280
<v Speaker 2>caretaker of these of these children, was like this was yours,

610
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 2>this was yours. And he said this and Karen also

611
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.840
<v Speaker 2>said this as well, is that they needed they need

612
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 2>the human touch, so they need to be held for

613
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.800
<v Speaker 2>just a little bit to given this humanity.

614
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, terrifying, Yes, yes, that is terrifying.

615
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:13.039
<v Speaker 2>M hm and so. And Karen has been adducted. She

616
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't believe she was taken off world. She believes she

617
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:21.360
<v Speaker 2>was taken to an underground facility. Oh that makes sense, yep, exactly.

618
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.639
<v Speaker 2>Raphael has been adducted into the ship. He talked about

619
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 2>being in a large and I don't think it was

620
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:29.239
<v Speaker 2>on our ship. He went somewhere else could have been

621
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>underground as well. He was in a large auditorium of

622
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 2>sorts which was filled with hundreds and hundreds of other

623
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 2>people who were like him, who were being abducted, and

624
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 2>they were harvesting their their DNA from Oh my god.

625
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's like, how do you tell people you've

626
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>had this experience that?

627
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I agree? And that's where that's kind of where I

628
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:56.239
<v Speaker 2>bring my show in. One of the things is like

629
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to give them a platform to know that Listen,

630
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're crazy. I think these things are happening.

631
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 2>And by you getting your word out, it might make

632
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you feel a little better to get it off your chest,

633
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Speaker 2>but you're also empowering other people who've had this experience

634
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:13.199
<v Speaker 2>to know that I'm not alone.

635
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine, like what if it was you, Like,

636
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:19.559
<v Speaker 1>what would you do? How do you even tell your family?

637
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:22.519
<v Speaker 2>You can't?

638
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>You can't, Like, that's crazy. I'm not saying they're crazy,

639
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 1>but that's crazy.

640
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I agree, and that's what I say, Like I

641
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 2>tell them, I said, listen, I'm going to ask you

642
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:36.519
<v Speaker 2>questions about the experience. I'm not going to question that

643
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you had the experience because these things are happening and

644
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>it is. It is crazy. It is absolutely crazy. And

645
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:48.119
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like it's not like one a person

646
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:50.760
<v Speaker 2>is abducted once. I've been finding that it's kind of

647
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 2>if you're chosen almost it's kind of like multiple abductions.

648
00:37:55.159 --> 00:38:00.440
<v Speaker 2>And Karen was able to stop it bye by bringing

649
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:02.800
<v Speaker 2>in like, you know, calling out Jesus Christ, you know,

650
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:06.239
<v Speaker 2>to leave me alone and just calling it. So that

651
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>tells you is that if you're using the name of Christ,

652
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:13.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, Jesus, and it's stopping it, that means they're

653
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:18.239
<v Speaker 2>of this world, they're of this creation because that has

654
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 2>power over them.

655
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Yep, because there's power in the name. And obviously if

656
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it didn't mean anything, they would just keep doing it.

657
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.800
<v Speaker 1>But you know what sets is crazy is I've had

658
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 1>this theory for the longest time that they're doing like

659
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>this hybridization with animals too, because it does say and

660
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I've brought this up before, like old Testament style, that

661
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 1>they were having sex with animals and humans alike and

662
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 1>creating these giant beings and what have you. But if

663
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 1>they were having sex with like humans and animals alike,

664
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.840
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, and I'm super curious and see what

665
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you think. But this is where we get a lot

666
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>of the cryptid stuff from. So I mean, just your

667
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 1>opinion on that.

668
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:11.599
<v Speaker 2>I believe that plays a role in these cryptids for sure,

669
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:15.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, like Chaimera's and whatnot. I definitely believe it's sirens,

670
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 2>which are Mermaids, which is funny. I bring that up

671
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.800
<v Speaker 2>because I was just listening to an episode today about

672
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:26.199
<v Speaker 2>the siren of the Starbucks cup there right right, Yeah,

673
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:28.840
<v Speaker 2>that's a whole other topic. But that's kind of like

674
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.519
<v Speaker 2>way a new way to worship old gods. And you know,

675
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.079
<v Speaker 2>it's like we don't go to temple, like Starbucks is

676
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.119
<v Speaker 2>a temple and you're you're purchasing these you're you're you're

677
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 2>donating money for this. But okay, that's a whole that's

678
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 2>a topic.

679
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about it too, because it's like that double

680
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>tailed serpent teams. Yeah, so like do you think and

681
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've interviewed people who have had experiences, but

682
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>these cryptid beings are inner dimensional probably in nature, and

683
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:08.760
<v Speaker 1>they're they have magic like their parents probably had magic, uh,

684
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>being these fallen ones and they are evil in nature

685
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:21.119
<v Speaker 1>because they are they're fallen creatures. But I have only

686
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:27.320
<v Speaker 1>ever heard people talk about like dog men and Mothman,

687
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.519
<v Speaker 1>and it's like and even Bigfoot in some instances. It's

688
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>like not usually a positive experience, like these things are

689
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:41.559
<v Speaker 1>crazed there they'll get you if you let them. They

690
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:45.119
<v Speaker 1>they like Mothman's like this harbinger of doom and stuff.

691
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's Mothman is an interesting one and I is

692
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 2>he a harbinger of doom or is he a like

693
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 2>messenger to warn people of the upcoming? But it's all

694
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 2>in riddles. So everything that kind of happened in around,

695
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 2>like the silver Birds collapse, was kind of all in riddles.

696
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.760
<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of riddles. Riddles. Yes, that's what

697
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:10.519
<v Speaker 2>I said. Okay, Sorry, I was like, did I say

698
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:13.519
<v Speaker 2>the word wrong? Though, But there's a lot of riddles

699
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 2>around it trying to decipher it, and at the end,

700
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:18.480
<v Speaker 2>after everything happened, that's when everybody was able to piece

701
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:22.039
<v Speaker 2>it all together. So it's kind of like, I guess

702
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:23.920
<v Speaker 2>if he was there for good, he would have really

703
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.679
<v Speaker 2>warned the people and told them that this was happening.

704
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 2>But instead, you know, they received dreams and premonitions of

705
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 2>what happened. But back to like dog Man, Yeah, dog Man,

706
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of a positive experience, not once with

707
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:46.000
<v Speaker 2>a dog Man. Now Bigfoot, I've heard some positive experiences,

708
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:51.360
<v Speaker 2>and then I've heard people gifting Bigfoot, like leaving peanut

709
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 2>butter out and food out, and I'm like, what do

710
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 2>you do? And you're messing with something that you shouldn't

711
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:58.039
<v Speaker 2>be messing with. I think of the wigil board as well,

712
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.480
<v Speaker 2>like like what are you doing? Like stay away from that.

713
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 2>There was a family that was doing that and then

714
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:09.440
<v Speaker 2>these then they stopped, and these bigfoot started getting aggressive

715
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 2>and they actually called in some some locals to help

716
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>them with it. And the bigfoot entities then followed these

717
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:21.199
<v Speaker 2>local this local home, and he had to deal with

718
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 2>them as well. It was it was ridiculous. Now, now

719
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.320
<v Speaker 2>this is something that's kind of I'm going to go

720
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:29.360
<v Speaker 2>into a theory a bit, a bit about bigfoot, if

721
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:35.599
<v Speaker 2>that's all right. So bigfoot is and and this ties

722
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:42.119
<v Speaker 2>into like like vampires as well. Okay, what is the

723
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:43.960
<v Speaker 2>what is the what is the thing about vampires? They

724
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 2>can't come into your home unless you invite them. And

725
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying i've personally, I've never heard of a

726
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:55.239
<v Speaker 2>story of a bigfoot ever entering a house. I heard

727
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:57.840
<v Speaker 2>them beating the crap out of the house, and but

728
00:42:58.000 --> 00:42:59.440
<v Speaker 2>never break in a window. They just have to like

729
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:01.000
<v Speaker 2>tap on a win so they can break a window,

730
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 2>but it's never happened. I've never heard and a dog

731
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 2>man entering a house as well, So I think there

732
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:10.719
<v Speaker 2>is something about the threshold of your home that protects you.

733
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Now that being said, I also think that we need

734
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 2>to watch out for welcome mets on on your front porch.

735
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:21.639
<v Speaker 2>If you put a welcome mat, that's a general invitation

736
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.559
<v Speaker 2>to come on in. So you got to watch out

737
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 2>for that.

738
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.159
<v Speaker 1>But back then that's a good point.

739
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 2>That's something. Yeah, it's like, Okay, don't have a welcome

740
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you can put an unwelcome mat out front, and then.

741
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>You'll say you, Matt, exactly.

742
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Get the fuck out of here.

743
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, sactly you.

744
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 2>But so my theory is is that these entities have

745
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:49.760
<v Speaker 2>to abide by some laws, you know. And I'm not

746
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:54.119
<v Speaker 2>saying that they're abiding abiding by any like physics or

747
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.880
<v Speaker 2>anything like that, because they're able to walk through or

748
00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:00.440
<v Speaker 2>they're able to walk through portals and disappear and go

749
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:03.920
<v Speaker 2>into black mysts and whatnot. But there's certain things that

750
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 2>they just cannot seem to break. Now, a lot of

751
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Native folklore talks about the hairy Man, okay, and I

752
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:18.880
<v Speaker 2>believe that they interacted quite a lot than we are

753
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 2>led to believe, to the point that traditions were intertwined.

754
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Because one thing that the Bigfoot will do is they

755
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 2>will slap a house. This is one thing they do

756
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 2>is they will slap the house. This is I've heard

757
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:36.519
<v Speaker 2>this multiple times. So again I'm speculating. And I've talked

758
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:40.280
<v Speaker 2>with a Native, a Native elder on this one as well,

759
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:44.719
<v Speaker 2>and he's like that's great. Well, he's like saying, yeah,

760
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:48.519
<v Speaker 2>that makes sense. Is that it's very similar to something

761
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 2>called counting coup. Okay, So I don't know if you

762
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 2>if you know what the principle of counting coup is.

763
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Counting coup is a Native type of tradition that a

764
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.079
<v Speaker 2>warrior would do. It would just show how brave he

765
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:04.800
<v Speaker 2>without killing someone or doing something like that. He would

766
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.480
<v Speaker 2>some of them would invade an enemies camp, maybe at night,

767
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and take something or do something to show that he

768
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:17.519
<v Speaker 2>was the better warrior. Okay, So my theory is that

769
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot have taken on that sort of style, that tradition.

770
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Slapping of the houses is a form of counting coup.

771
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:30.480
<v Speaker 2>But I totally digress from your first initial statement. I

772
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 2>believe that these are hybridizations. They are in stual or

773
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.079
<v Speaker 2>like bestiality type of things. But they said that they

774
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 2>would they experimented on animals. I totally believe that, and

775
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:44.800
<v Speaker 2>this has been around for so much longer, Like a

776
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:46.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of people are like, oh, this dog man thing

777
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:50.599
<v Speaker 2>is just is just coming up. This is new. I'm like, no,

778
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.519
<v Speaker 2>it's not. Go look at a Nubis. Anubis was a

779
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.039
<v Speaker 2>dog headed god, right, and then we go to I know,

780
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Saint Christopher is a debatable but many people believe and

781
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 2>it could be due to a translation, but many people

782
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:10.280
<v Speaker 2>believe that Saint Christopher was a dog headed person. Now

783
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:14.960
<v Speaker 2>there was also whereas there's an I I don't remember

784
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:17.320
<v Speaker 2>the name, but in the Mayan and Aztecs there is

785
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 2>a dog headed god as well, so there was this

786
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 2>dog they have they.

787
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Have a bat headed one, yes too.

788
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh uh yeah. So there was a lot of people

789
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:36.079
<v Speaker 2>believing that Batman came from this this like they're like, look.

790
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 1>At this is this it was bas tech, I think.

791
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it's not. This was a an artist who

792
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.280
<v Speaker 2>made this depiction. And then someone made this post go

793
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 2>viral saying this was a god, a batman type of god,

794
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:48.960
<v Speaker 2>which it wasn't.

795
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.679
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't Jared leto Bro.

796
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

797
00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

798
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:01.239
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's it's always good to know to investigate

799
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.800
<v Speaker 2>these kinds of things. Because there's so many, so many

800
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 2>things out there, and like there's so many syops out

801
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:11.440
<v Speaker 2>there to try to credit everything as well they want you.

802
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.840
<v Speaker 2>But if there's syops, you know you're on the right trail.

803
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:18.159
<v Speaker 2>This is this is the thing. If they're trying to

804
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 2>discredit it and you know, change the narrative or add

805
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 2>more narratives into it, that's usually what they'll do is

806
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 2>they'll throw in you know, it could be eighty percent

807
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:29.719
<v Speaker 2>real and twenty percent syops. But as soon as you

808
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.519
<v Speaker 2>are able to discredit a syop, then the rest just

809
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 2>falls apart. So if you kind of lump this all together,

810
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.239
<v Speaker 2>let's say nine to eleven, and you say, oh, there

811
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:42.360
<v Speaker 2>was an actual planes, and then there's so many videos,

812
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.920
<v Speaker 2>even private videos that show these planes like, well, no,

813
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:48.519
<v Speaker 2>it actually was a plane that hit the trade center Pentagon.

814
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 2>It's different story, but correct. But I don't want to

815
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:53.760
<v Speaker 2>go too far into nine eleven because that's a whole

816
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 2>other bag of worms. I'm with you though, But that's

817
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:59.840
<v Speaker 2>the thing is that they can like if everybody's believing

818
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:02.039
<v Speaker 2>that this one story, well then they can throw everything

819
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 2>else out because oh no, it's all crap because.

820
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 1>You believe this, Yeah, the one bad apple spoiling the.

821
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Whole exactly thing exactly, And that's what I believe. Sorry,

822
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna that's what I believe. With so many

823
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:21.719
<v Speaker 2>of movements and and uh and groups, so many movements

824
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:25.400
<v Speaker 2>and groups were all started with good intentions, but then

825
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 2>they were perverted and taken over and just driven into

826
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:34.800
<v Speaker 2>the ground into like this depravity, you know, into this craziness,

827
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and all these movements have been like because what's the

828
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:40.960
<v Speaker 2>best way, what's the best way to take care of

829
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:42.760
<v Speaker 2>a movement and to get rid of it is not

830
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 2>to fight it. It's just to corrupt it from the

831
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:49.599
<v Speaker 2>inside and make it morally corrupt. And what's even crazier,

832
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>people still follow it. There's this people still follow this

833
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:53.920
<v Speaker 2>craziness they have.

834
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:58.760
<v Speaker 1>They make it almost like disgustingly dramatic in ways to

835
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.000
<v Speaker 1>wear like a normal and would be like what the

836
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:04.159
<v Speaker 1>fuck is this? Yes, like I could have gotten on board,

837
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:05.960
<v Speaker 1>but now it's like the circus.

838
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 2>And that's like with these cults, like when we're talking

839
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:11.079
<v Speaker 2>about Magdalena Solis. You know, when when they first started

840
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:14.039
<v Speaker 2>the cult, it was like just drugs and sex, and

841
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 2>then it went into this crazy deprevity and people just

842
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.039
<v Speaker 2>went along with it instead of like having this moral

843
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.480
<v Speaker 2>compass of being able to stand back and say no.

844
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.199
<v Speaker 2>And and that's the biggest issue with like these political parties.

845
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Like I I can pick the political party that I

846
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.920
<v Speaker 2>can that I support, I can still stand back and

847
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:36.239
<v Speaker 2>say that's crap, Like I'm not going to follow them blindly.

848
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:39.719
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's important that we have to stop following

849
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:43.079
<v Speaker 2>people blindly. But sorry, like, but you have.

850
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 1>To use your discernment on everything.

851
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:48.639
<v Speaker 2>And it's okay to say that's crap, you know, like

852
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I I don't that's the person I support, but that

853
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:52.519
<v Speaker 2>is crap. I don't support that.

854
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:59.280
<v Speaker 1>It's so so okay. This is going to be a

855
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:04.599
<v Speaker 1>multi layer question. So what would you say to the

856
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 1>people who have recently I know because for somehow I've

857
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 1>gotten grouped in with them. They say that people who

858
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:14.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about the nephlem and the follen ones that we're

859
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:20.960
<v Speaker 1>all pushing this propaganda train of like false narrative weirdness,

860
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and that anybody who gets behind the Nephelene thing, it's

861
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:28.760
<v Speaker 1>like the next we're just you know, pushing like the

862
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>UFO thing when it was super pop crop circles and

863
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:34.880
<v Speaker 1>all that and everybody was all UFO crazy and that

864
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 1>was the thing. Now it's Nepheline. Now we're all pushing

865
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:41.880
<v Speaker 1>this and I've been called all kinds of names for it,

866
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:45.519
<v Speaker 1>like I can't believe you're going along with this Nephelin

867
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:51.000
<v Speaker 1>propaganda stuff, and like I feel like if you put

868
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:55.079
<v Speaker 1>enough time into it, it speaks for itself. I don't.

869
00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:57.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, where are you on that?

870
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:02.079
<v Speaker 2>So I believe that we do take it a step

871
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:05.519
<v Speaker 2>further because we're speculating. But if we go back to

872
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Genesis six, one of the oldest books in history. That

873
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.760
<v Speaker 2>because the Bible, okay, and everybody's like, oh, the Bible,

874
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.920
<v Speaker 2>that's a religious book. No, it's a historical book. Okay,

875
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to history, and it's talked about for

876
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:23.639
<v Speaker 2>thousands and thousands of years of the Nepheline and the

877
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:28.199
<v Speaker 2>fallen angels. So we can agree that that is that happened.

878
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:31.119
<v Speaker 2>That is the truth there. Now, some of the things

879
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:33.239
<v Speaker 2>that I was talking about, and I've said that it's

880
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:35.960
<v Speaker 2>just speculating, you know, I'm speculating that this is what

881
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:39.920
<v Speaker 2>this is. I truly don't know. There's no experts on anything,

882
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:42.880
<v Speaker 2>but but that's what we can do right now is

883
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.360
<v Speaker 2>just take it step by step and be careful with

884
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:48.360
<v Speaker 2>what we're doing and not. We can't say everything is

885
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.400
<v Speaker 2>a every red circle is a is a Nephilim. And

886
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:52.760
<v Speaker 2>if you know what I mean by that, that is

887
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 2>like people who take these pictures in Paradalia and their

888
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 2>circle everything. Oh I saw big foot, big foot, back

889
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:01.960
<v Speaker 2>foot bigfoot. No, but but it's still out there. We

890
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.000
<v Speaker 2>still need to be careful with what we're doing. We

891
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:07.199
<v Speaker 2>have to take our steps forward. And these are my beliefs.

892
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.119
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not saying that everybody has to believe it.

893
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm I'm open to criticism of what I

894
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 2>believe and discussion. But we cannot deny that there are abductions,

895
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 2>There are evil people out there. There are history books

896
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 2>about the Nephiline, the watchers, the flood everything.

897
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:32.679
<v Speaker 1>So the existence of giants in every culture.

898
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the existence of giants in every culture is there.

899
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.599
<v Speaker 1>And not just Christian you know, not just in the Bible,

900
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>every single Mexico, yes, what was it? Egypt and go

901
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:49.199
<v Speaker 1>back like tape and all.

902
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:54.320
<v Speaker 2>These in North America and the natives talk about the

903
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 2>the the long red haired giants as well.

904
00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, yep, yep.

905
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:03.119
<v Speaker 2>This this happens everywhere. But one of the things is

906
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:09.960
<v Speaker 2>to pull knowledge or wisdom out of the population, all

907
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:12.800
<v Speaker 2>you need is one generation. Okay, So if you change

908
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the narrative one generation later, you're going to have them

909
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.400
<v Speaker 2>believing the new narrative, and then everybody else they're going

910
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:23.599
<v Speaker 2>to be calling, oh, you guys are are liars, you're this,

911
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:26.360
<v Speaker 2>you're that, you know, and but everybody else before it

912
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:27.519
<v Speaker 2>was like, no, this is the way it was. But

913
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.400
<v Speaker 2>just that one generation, there's that gap. There's that gap,

914
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:32.280
<v Speaker 2>and once you start getting it, then it starts a

915
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:36.280
<v Speaker 2>snowball and that becomes the new truth. Is it the truth? No,

916
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:38.760
<v Speaker 2>it's not, but that is what we're told. That's what's

917
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:40.719
<v Speaker 2>written down in our new books.

918
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:41.559
<v Speaker 1>Right.

919
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:46.039
<v Speaker 2>The narrative just is so easy to change. That is

920
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 2>one thing that I've heard about speaking of that, that's

921
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:50.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of like what I heard about the Mandela effect.

922
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:54.440
<v Speaker 2>The Mandela effect is truly happening, but it's not as

923
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:57.519
<v Speaker 2>crazy as we think it is. It's the one theory

924
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I've heard is that it's corporations and government trying to

925
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.000
<v Speaker 2>see how easy it is to manipulate the population to

926
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:07.280
<v Speaker 2>believe that something didn't happen even though it did.

927
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 1>So, wow, that is fucked.

928
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is, it completely is.

929
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:21.000
<v Speaker 1>So. So then I have to ask you your thoughts

930
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 1>on this new discovery thing under the pyramids and all

931
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:28.920
<v Speaker 1>this nonsense, like they've discovered these secrets. And it almost

932
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:32.280
<v Speaker 1>made me think of Edgar Casey for a minute, because

933
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:36.199
<v Speaker 1>he had all these visions of stuff hidden under the

934
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:40.920
<v Speaker 1>sphinx and hidden under the the pyramids and all that.

935
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:45.360
<v Speaker 2>He had a like you got it. Well, this is different,

936
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:48.719
<v Speaker 2>this is different. But this is based on his reading

937
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:51.840
<v Speaker 2>some of his readings. Yeah, this is about Atlantis. Visions

938
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:54.719
<v Speaker 2>of Atlantis. Michael Laflemm wrote that book. It was it's

939
00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:57.360
<v Speaker 2>a fantastic book. But it has all to do with educacy,

940
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:02.280
<v Speaker 2>predicting that, oh, like the Chamber of Knowledge I can't remember,

941
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:06.920
<v Speaker 2>would be underneath the paw of the sphinx right right now? Okay,

942
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:14.199
<v Speaker 2>So if we thinking engineering style, okay, with these new

943
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:19.679
<v Speaker 2>discoveries underneath the pyramids, I think it's and of course

944
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:22.119
<v Speaker 2>there has to be something underneath the periods. Think about

945
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the weight of the pyramids. Okay, each block is minimum

946
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.079
<v Speaker 2>one ton, right, so how much weight is sitting on there. Now,

947
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:33.280
<v Speaker 2>if you build a building a sky rise, do you

948
00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:35.119
<v Speaker 2>just build it right on the ground or do you

949
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.800
<v Speaker 2>actually have to build a foundation. You need to build

950
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:41.679
<v Speaker 2>a huge foundation to support that. So I don't know

951
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:46.599
<v Speaker 2>exactly what those those tunnels are and everything, but it

952
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:49.760
<v Speaker 2>very much could be some sort of engineering support system.

953
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Can it be something else more? Yeah, of course it

954
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.400
<v Speaker 2>can be. But if we want to look at it

955
00:55:55.480 --> 00:56:00.079
<v Speaker 2>scientifically and mathematically, we need to distribute that weight. We

956
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:01.679
<v Speaker 2>need something to hold it up so it's not going

957
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:06.599
<v Speaker 2>to sink into the ground. Okay, So that's what I believe,

958
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.280
<v Speaker 2>at least what it can be, But it can definitely

959
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>be something more.

960
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, do you really believe they're just discovering it now? Okay, no,

961
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:20.599
<v Speaker 1>me either. If it's been there, it's been there and

962
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:21.519
<v Speaker 1>they've known about it.

963
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, what's his name? And I keep forgetting his name,

964
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:27.960
<v Speaker 2>but like the Egyptian curator, like the guy who's involved

965
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:30.039
<v Speaker 2>of all the antiquities, that guy is.

966
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know his name, but I know who

967
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:33.159
<v Speaker 1>you're talking.

968
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that guy is an absolute joke, you know there is.

969
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:40.239
<v Speaker 2>And here's a question. How many people do you think

970
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:43.960
<v Speaker 2>still believe that the Pyramids were built as tombs.

971
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:46.719
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to say, Right, they're supposed

972
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.079
<v Speaker 1>to be burial chambers, but they got all this going on.

973
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me?

974
00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Like, we have the Valley of the Kings where all

975
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:56.320
<v Speaker 2>the kings are damned near buried. Okay, I believe there

976
00:56:56.400 --> 00:57:01.159
<v Speaker 2>was one pyramid where they found Apacus inside. You know,

977
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:04.039
<v Speaker 2>they found one of the Kings inside one of the pyramids.

978
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Every other one is buried in the Valley of the Kings.

979
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:08.920
<v Speaker 2>And we're still like you talk to people, they're still like, oh, yeah,

980
00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:12.360
<v Speaker 2>the pyramids, that's where they that's the tombs. You know. No,

981
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:12.880
<v Speaker 2>they're not.

982
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:14.599
<v Speaker 1>They're definitely not.

983
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 2>No. I like, I can't tell you what they are,

984
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:20.360
<v Speaker 2>but I can tell you that they're not a frickin' tomb,

985
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.320
<v Speaker 2>because that is not it. There's so much more to them.

986
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:26.599
<v Speaker 1>And even when they came out with this new discovery,

987
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:30.079
<v Speaker 1>right and they're talking about these cylinders that are there,

988
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:35.199
<v Speaker 1>and they say that they're made from the same limestone

989
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.079
<v Speaker 1>or whatever that the pyramid is made out of that

990
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:43.599
<v Speaker 1>was quarried like hundreds of miles away, brought there tons

991
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>of it by what carrier pigeons or something like that,

992
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:51.519
<v Speaker 1>and then they want you not to believe your own eyes.

993
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.519
<v Speaker 1>You know, they don't want you to ask yourself, well,

994
00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:57.000
<v Speaker 1>who could move big stones like that? Oh, I don't

995
00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 1>know giant people. I don't know people who have advanced technology.

996
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know people. It's like you have to literally

997
00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:06.280
<v Speaker 1>ask yourself and then you're looking at them. And then

998
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:09.360
<v Speaker 1>if you just go based on your discernment and looking

999
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:11.920
<v Speaker 1>at them, you would know they're like big some kind

1000
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of big energy conductors or something crazy like that. They

1001
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:20.320
<v Speaker 1>got all these little they they're like, I forget what

1002
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.119
<v Speaker 1>they call them on the inside of the pyramid, but

1003
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:24.280
<v Speaker 1>they're like little chambers they're calling them.

1004
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're like sounding chambers as well.

1005
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.519
<v Speaker 2>They're supposed to have frequencies in them.

1006
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, they're like resonators.

1007
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Sorry resonator.

1008
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's the word I was looking for. But anyways,

1009
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:38.559
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, that's what it was. It was a

1010
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:43.239
<v Speaker 1>big tomb and they used a couple hundred slaves, whips

1011
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and chains and they toted these these massive five ton

1012
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:51.960
<v Speaker 1>stones into place. And it's just they've there's been such

1013
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.440
<v Speaker 1>an effort to get us to not believe our own

1014
00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 1>eyes on a lot of this stuff and it's just

1015
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:01.079
<v Speaker 1>it's I'm so glad that you have that, Edgar Casey,

1016
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:03.320
<v Speaker 1>but because I wasn't sure if you know who I

1017
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:04.199
<v Speaker 1>was talking about.

1018
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sleeping the sleeping prophet.

1019
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, so what do you think then about I

1020
00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 1>know we we talked about CRYPTI is a little bit.

1021
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Something else that falls in the nepheleem lore is fairies

1022
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. What is your what are your

1023
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:21.079
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that?

1024
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:27.079
<v Speaker 2>I that is one area that I did interview Monica Rawlins,

1025
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 2>who had some good information on fairies, but I haven't

1026
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:34.280
<v Speaker 2>done a deep of a dive into into fairies though

1027
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:38.199
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's it's all the same now, like they're

1028
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:42.559
<v Speaker 2>little people. They're little folk right dwin Days as some

1029
00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:44.320
<v Speaker 2>people will call them as well. I think they're They're

1030
00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:46.480
<v Speaker 2>all connected. It doesn't matter where in the world you are,

1031
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:50.760
<v Speaker 2>they're all these these little folk now here where I live.

1032
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:53.840
<v Speaker 2>The little folk that they have is called alushes. But

1033
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:57.239
<v Speaker 2>there is a theory about how an alosh is created.

1034
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:00.360
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like a what's the word I'm looking

1035
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:03.960
<v Speaker 2>for a homunculus. So an alush is kind of like

1036
01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:05.960
<v Speaker 2>a homunculus. Now, I know I'm getting away from your

1037
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:09.800
<v Speaker 2>from fairies. I don't have enough information on fairies to

1038
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:12.960
<v Speaker 2>go too deep, but there I will tell you about.

1039
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Ahead spiritually created.

1040
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Then the alushes are kind of spiritually created, but they're

1041
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:22.960
<v Speaker 2>also it's kind of like a golam. Think of a golam.

1042
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.719
<v Speaker 2>So they would use corn meal and they would use

1043
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.320
<v Speaker 2>clay and dirt from the area that you're in. You

1044
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:34.760
<v Speaker 2>would create this and you would bloodlet on it as well,

1045
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:37.559
<v Speaker 2>and for nine days you would pray to it, and

1046
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:41.519
<v Speaker 2>on the ninth day, this creature, this thing will come

1047
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:44.719
<v Speaker 2>alive and protect your land, protect your place.

1048
01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like a tiny Pinocchio story.

1049
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Kind of kind of yes, didn't have those strings. And

1050
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:59.639
<v Speaker 2>but once you died, this this creature, this thing will

1051
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to go on protecting the land. So if new people

1052
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:06.199
<v Speaker 2>come to take over the land, it will start to

1053
01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 2>act out and try to like throw rocks at you

1054
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:11.119
<v Speaker 2>and and things like that to get you to leave.

1055
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:17.239
<v Speaker 2>It will be mischievous, so you need to you need

1056
01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:17.760
<v Speaker 2>to kind of.

1057
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 1>Like appease them, appease them or.

1058
01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Or or put out dominance, you know, like be dominant,

1059
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:27.480
<v Speaker 2>like I am now the new owner. I am now

1060
01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.519
<v Speaker 2>the new proprietor of this and you can either serve

1061
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:35.119
<v Speaker 2>me or you can leave. And that is that is

1062
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:39.159
<v Speaker 2>the gist of the aluses. Now. I know a lot

1063
01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:41.119
<v Speaker 2>of people have never heard that phrase before. I never

1064
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:43.320
<v Speaker 2>did until I moved here. And for those who don't know,

1065
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:46.599
<v Speaker 2>I live in Mexico in the Yucatan Peninsula. But you

1066
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:49.679
<v Speaker 2>can't throw a rock without hitting someone who has their

1067
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.719
<v Speaker 2>own le'ld say, almost their own personal allus story, or

1068
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:55.360
<v Speaker 2>at least know someone who does who's had one.

1069
01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:58.639
<v Speaker 1>So do you believe that the I mean if you

1070
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you can't for me, and I'm not talking about you,

1071
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:03.039
<v Speaker 1>but for me, I've always said, you can't be a

1072
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:06.119
<v Speaker 1>hypocrite about these things. If you believe in Bigfoot, Mofman

1073
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:09.119
<v Speaker 1>and dog Man, and you've had a paranormal experience, and

1074
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:13.760
<v Speaker 1>you know that you believe in the nepheline, there's always

1075
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:15.880
<v Speaker 1>like this little fine line where it's like, but fairies

1076
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:20.159
<v Speaker 1>don't exist. I put it, where are you on it?

1077
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:24.079
<v Speaker 1>I believe they have a tiny little.

1078
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I believe all our lore and our legends and our history.

1079
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:32.199
<v Speaker 2>I think it all existed, just because I haven't looked

1080
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:35.639
<v Speaker 2>into it. And I you know, like I am skeptical

1081
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:38.000
<v Speaker 2>on many things. It doesn't sound like I am because

1082
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I believe that. I believe that, but

1083
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:45.480
<v Speaker 2>it's I believe that they exist. Have I experienced anything

1084
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:47.400
<v Speaker 2>to do with the fairy or the fae? No, I

1085
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:51.079
<v Speaker 2>have not. But yeah, who am I to say that

1086
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:54.559
<v Speaker 2>doesn't exist when I've I've seen some other things that

1087
01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:57.719
<v Speaker 2>that shouldn't exist, but I've seen it myself. So I

1088
01:02:57.760 --> 01:02:59.440
<v Speaker 2>do believe that there is a lot of things out

1089
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:01.679
<v Speaker 2>there that we don't know or we just can't see.

1090
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you on that. I mean, I've had

1091
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:07.320
<v Speaker 1>paranormal experiences myself. It sounds like you played with the

1092
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:10.559
<v Speaker 1>Wiji board one time and you started conjuring some stuff

1093
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:14.280
<v Speaker 1>up in your house. But I don't know if you've

1094
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:16.480
<v Speaker 1>seen a ghost or anything, but I think that stuff

1095
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:19.039
<v Speaker 1>is just as real as anything else. What did you

1096
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:19.719
<v Speaker 1>get a demon?

1097
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:25.840
<v Speaker 2>So I went before the wig aboard. I've always been

1098
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:29.719
<v Speaker 2>able to see things, so I've had experience lifelong experiences.

1099
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I still do to this day. I see stuff on

1100
01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:37.159
<v Speaker 2>the regular. But my one experience after the wiji aboard

1101
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:40.719
<v Speaker 2>was kind of this craziness. When I'm not sure, I'll

1102
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:42.719
<v Speaker 2>tell you. So I had came home from being out

1103
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:45.239
<v Speaker 2>with some friends. I was like seventeen or eighteen years old.

1104
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't drinking or anything. And I had gotten home

1105
01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:52.639
<v Speaker 2>and I remember that the northern lights wrote in full effect,

1106
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:54.960
<v Speaker 2>and so I was watching them. But I had to

1107
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.079
<v Speaker 2>be up early in the morning. So I went to sleep,

1108
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.800
<v Speaker 2>tried to go to sleep, and I was watching the

1109
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:04.199
<v Speaker 2>clock and watching the hours tick by, and you know,

1110
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:07.360
<v Speaker 2>as a as you would do when you're younger, you know,

1111
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I fall asleep. Now I have seven hours and fifty

1112
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:13.039
<v Speaker 2>three minutes, and then it's seven hours and twelve minutes.

1113
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:15.679
<v Speaker 2>And so I was watching the clock and tossing and

1114
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:19.360
<v Speaker 2>turning them. I felt like I I did not hear

1115
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:21.559
<v Speaker 2>like a voice to tell me to do this. I

1116
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:24.239
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like in my mind or mind speaking like that.

1117
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:26.400
<v Speaker 2>But I just felt this urge that I needed to

1118
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:29.239
<v Speaker 2>roll over onto my back and look up. So I did,

1119
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:31.679
<v Speaker 2>and floating above me, about three and a half feet

1120
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:35.320
<v Speaker 2>above me, was this shadow being. And it's dark in

1121
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:38.880
<v Speaker 2>my room, but I can see the head, the shoulders,

1122
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.199
<v Speaker 2>the neck, you know, I can see the shoulders, the arms,

1123
01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:43.280
<v Speaker 2>and the waist. And when it got down to about

1124
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:46.800
<v Speaker 2>the waist, area. It drifted off into a white, vapory,

1125
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:51.760
<v Speaker 2>wispy smoke. The rest was blacker than black now. Its

1126
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:55.480
<v Speaker 2>eyes though, its eyes were glowing red, not like flashlights,

1127
01:04:55.480 --> 01:05:01.800
<v Speaker 2>but like an incandescent glowing red. And and I don't

1128
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:05.079
<v Speaker 2>know how long it was there for. And I laid there.

1129
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I was motionless. I could not move. And some people

1130
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:11.519
<v Speaker 2>are like, oh, that's sleep process, Like, well, no, I

1131
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:15.559
<v Speaker 2>wasn't asleep though. I was like you know when you

1132
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.039
<v Speaker 2>have your fight flight or freeze, and I was frozen.

1133
01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:22.079
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. It was maybe there for like

1134
01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:25.599
<v Speaker 2>three to five seconds, and it disappeared. And I don't

1135
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:27.440
<v Speaker 2>know how long I laid there for. I laid there

1136
01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:30.519
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, and then next thing I know,

1137
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:34.079
<v Speaker 2>I got up in the morning, and it was kind

1138
01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:37.239
<v Speaker 2>of that was like the event, you know. I talked

1139
01:05:37.239 --> 01:05:40.039
<v Speaker 2>about that there being like a bad event that you

1140
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:43.159
<v Speaker 2>can shape your life to go in a direction. That

1141
01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:46.239
<v Speaker 2>was the event. That was my event that I was like,

1142
01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I need to do something about this because this was

1143
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:50.559
<v Speaker 2>not good.

1144
01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, yeah, I think some people just are more

1145
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:57.519
<v Speaker 1>sensitive to see in this.

1146
01:05:57.519 --> 01:06:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Stuff, right, Yeah. I think we. I think we all

1147
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:04.280
<v Speaker 2>have that ability. It's just that some are maybe tuned

1148
01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:07.079
<v Speaker 2>in a little bit more, or or like perhaps with

1149
01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:10.039
<v Speaker 2>like mediums or psychics, we have like a muscle that

1150
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:11.840
<v Speaker 2>is a little more Strengthen. I'm not saying I'm a

1151
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:14.199
<v Speaker 2>medium or psychic, because I don't believe I am at all,

1152
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:16.639
<v Speaker 2>but I believe that we Yeah, I believe I am

1153
01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:19.599
<v Speaker 2>sensitive to this all and I'm able to. Maybe I'm

1154
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:23.599
<v Speaker 2>just tuned in a little bit more than most. My

1155
01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:26.320
<v Speaker 2>wife says, is because I had a little bit of

1156
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 2>a rough childhood or you know, like things were kind

1157
01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:32.199
<v Speaker 2>of crazy. So instead of living in this reality, I

1158
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:34.559
<v Speaker 2>decided to explore other realities.

1159
01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, childhood trauma can do it to you every time. Well,

1160
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 1>do you think that's why they select certain people to

1161
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:48.039
<v Speaker 1>become part of these experiments and be like abducted multiple

1162
01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:50.119
<v Speaker 1>times over and over again. It's like they have the

1163
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:53.800
<v Speaker 1>secret sauce whatever it is that they're looking for. And

1164
01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I think almost they do this ancestry DNA stuff to

1165
01:06:56.840 --> 01:07:00.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of see if there's something about certain people that

1166
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:04.199
<v Speaker 1>could be used in these experiments and stuff, you know,

1167
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:07.280
<v Speaker 1>sensitive people's psyche gigs, this kind of stuff.

1168
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Don't get me started on that ancestry DNA kind of stuff.

1169
01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know what I'm talking about, right, Yeah,

1170
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, I do. I do. I believe they're searching.

1171
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:19.920
<v Speaker 2>They're using it to search for somebody. I believe that

1172
01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:23.639
<v Speaker 2>they're well I would say somebody, but I believe it's

1173
01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:26.559
<v Speaker 2>a it's a process that they're like, we know the

1174
01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 2>DNA we're we're looking for, and we now have a

1175
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.880
<v Speaker 2>database and black Rock now owns that database. Yay.

1176
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:37.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's nefarious to say the least.

1177
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:40.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I don't know if I'll get in trouble

1178
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:42.119
<v Speaker 2>for saying this, but that's what I think the PCR

1179
01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:42.960
<v Speaker 2>test was as well.

1180
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, one time.

1181
01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:47.679
<v Speaker 2>The PCR test was a DNA sampler as well.

1182
01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:51.079
<v Speaker 1>It's a big collection, a big data collection experiment.

1183
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's me being out in the far the

1184
01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:54.719
<v Speaker 2>far field.

1185
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:56.400
<v Speaker 1>But I I don't think so.

1186
01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I believe that that was there too to gather DNA.

1187
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think so too. And I think they're looking

1188
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:07.440
<v Speaker 1>for specific markers that people can have. And me, like

1189
01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:11.280
<v Speaker 1>a freaking dumb idiot before I was ever a conspiracy theorist.

1190
01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I got one for Christmas, and I did it and

1191
01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:15.719
<v Speaker 1>now I regret it because I'm like, one day I'm

1192
01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:18.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna get abducted. I just know it, but.

1193
01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:22.119
<v Speaker 2>I want I wanted to do it as well. My parents.

1194
01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:25.600
<v Speaker 2>My parents are weird. So my parents are like not

1195
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:29.800
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theorists, but sometimes they just don't. There's certain things

1196
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:32.359
<v Speaker 2>that they just don't abide by, and that was one

1197
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:36.079
<v Speaker 2>of them. My sister had given them for Christmas the

1198
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:40.520
<v Speaker 2>DNA ancestry, and they never did it. They also were like,

1199
01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Wi Fi is bad, and at that point I was like, no,

1200
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:46.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not, it's nothing. And then now you know, there's

1201
01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:49.199
<v Speaker 2>more and more people coming out saying, yeah, the shit's

1202
01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:49.680
<v Speaker 2>not good for.

1203
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Us, right, Yeah, it cooks your brain and does all kinds.

1204
01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, sure, that's why I don't use any Bluetooth.

1205
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I use Bluetooth.

1206
01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I was just say, my brain's gonna be some fry.

1207
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I walked away from Bluetooth about two years ago and

1208
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:03.800
<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, that's it.

1209
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm done creature comforts, you know, because they they are

1210
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:12.439
<v Speaker 1>a trojan horse, to say the least. Still everything that

1211
01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:15.239
<v Speaker 1>they give us as a trojan horse, including the ancestry

1212
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.439
<v Speaker 1>dn anything, because like, at the end of the day,

1213
01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:20.279
<v Speaker 1>if you find out you're twenty five percent Norwegian, does

1214
01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:22.159
<v Speaker 1>it really change your life in any way.

1215
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:24.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, you know, but you know what I

1216
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:28.720
<v Speaker 2>really think it is because people are looking for like, oh,

1217
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:31.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm part native or I'm part black, you know, and

1218
01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:33.600
<v Speaker 2>they can be like yes, now I can make exotic,

1219
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:37.920
<v Speaker 2>yes exactly, and it's like, I know, you know what

1220
01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:41.600
<v Speaker 2>we're all gonna be, this mixed mash kind of a

1221
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:46.199
<v Speaker 2>little bit of everything mulatto people. Yeah, we'll all end

1222
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:48.279
<v Speaker 2>up beij That's what we're gonna be. We're just gonna

1223
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:49.399
<v Speaker 2>be I say too.

1224
01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.079
<v Speaker 1>That's what I say too, is we're all gonna end

1225
01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:54.600
<v Speaker 1>up in like twenty years from now, just a bunch

1226
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:58.800
<v Speaker 1>of mulatto. Nobody really. But I've taken up a lot

1227
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of your time, But I do have one last question

1228
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:03.880
<v Speaker 1>for you. I'm just dying to know because it's something

1229
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:06.880
<v Speaker 1>that I've covered and it's a hodgepodge of everything that

1230
01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:10.720
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about. So a long time ago, I did

1231
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:16.359
<v Speaker 1>an episode on the Dachtlaf Pass, and there are so

1232
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:21.520
<v Speaker 1>many theories. There was a Bigfoot, there was extraterrestrials. They

1233
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:27.640
<v Speaker 1>were doing experiments out there with like radiation stuff, and

1234
01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:30.439
<v Speaker 1>there's just so many theories as to what happened to

1235
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:33.640
<v Speaker 1>these people that that died in the Diochtlive Past incident.

1236
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I believe there was nine people died.

1237
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.079
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know a little bit about it.

1238
01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:44.119
<v Speaker 1>But yes, so I saw you had an episode and

1239
01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:48.079
<v Speaker 1>it was called flight Image three seventy and Dyochtlive Pass.

1240
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I see I went and my friend went

1241
01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:55.600
<v Speaker 2>deep on the on the past. What's it call it that?

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01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:59.319
<v Speaker 1>But yes, sure, sure, yeah, what are your thoughts about?

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01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:01.640
<v Speaker 1>And how could they be possibly connected?

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01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so well the past in so there was a

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01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:16.800
<v Speaker 2>active military exercise going on and the general saw lights

1246
01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.520
<v Speaker 2>off in that distance where these people were had this incident.

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01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I believe that it was a cross between a an

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01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:28.399
<v Speaker 2>abduction scenario because I think one of them had his

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01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:31.760
<v Speaker 2>tongue cut out as well. Yeah right, and that ties

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01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:35.600
<v Speaker 2>into cattle mutilation, right, and some one of them had

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01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.720
<v Speaker 2>his like chest like blown out as well. It was

1252
01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:42.439
<v Speaker 2>it was crazy, So I think that ties more into

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01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:47.960
<v Speaker 2>abduction though. I do believe that because a lot of

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01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:52.720
<v Speaker 2>times there is bigfoot sightings around UFO sightings. It's not

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01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:55.279
<v Speaker 2>to say, you know, people always say a correlation does

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01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:58.600
<v Speaker 2>not make causation, but what happens if it does? What

1257
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.319
<v Speaker 2>happens if there has been so many of these sightings

1258
01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:08.079
<v Speaker 2>together that they are connected. Maybe maybe they're not like

1259
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot is in the UFO. Maybe the UFO was studying

1260
01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot as well, so they're at the same location at

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01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the same time, which is possibility. But I think there

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01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:24.000
<v Speaker 2>was abduction and also possible Bigfoot activity on that one.

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01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I know it's I'm being very vague on that, but well.

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01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I only ask because when I covered it, I said,

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01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:34.720
<v Speaker 1>this is one percent either something supernatural or like a

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01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:37.720
<v Speaker 1>government experiment, and they blasted these guys with like a

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01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:41.039
<v Speaker 1>directed energy weapon or something like that. And the person

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01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I was arguing with on that episode said, one they

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01:12:45.640 --> 01:12:50.840
<v Speaker 1>died in an avalanche case closed period. There's nothing supernatural,

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01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:54.279
<v Speaker 1>nothing paranormal about it. And it just that just never

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01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:59.479
<v Speaker 1>could settle with me. With the injuries that these dudes sustained.

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01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Was one of them was orange and one was up

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01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:03.199
<v Speaker 1>in a tree.

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01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I also believe, Yeah, I believe there was

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01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:09.880
<v Speaker 2>radiation too. I definitely believe there was radiation involved with that.

1276
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:12.560
<v Speaker 2>So when you're saying directed energy weapon, it very much

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01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:14.920
<v Speaker 2>could be that as well, you know, and that's what

1278
01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:17.880
<v Speaker 2>caused them to freak out and to lose their marbles

1279
01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:22.800
<v Speaker 2>and literally run out without clothes on and shoes and yeah,

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01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:27.039
<v Speaker 2>no shoes, Like Okay, if an avalanche happens, you're going

1281
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:29.479
<v Speaker 2>to be buried right then and there. You're not going

1282
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:32.079
<v Speaker 2>to go running down a hill because they found their tents.

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01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Why why did they leave their tents if there was

1284
01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:38.960
<v Speaker 2>an avalanche and the tents are still standing?

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01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Were cut from the inside?

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01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Correct? Correct?

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01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:45.520
<v Speaker 1>So what's going on? That's why I just I'm so

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01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:47.680
<v Speaker 1>glad we're on the same page with that, because I

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01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:51.399
<v Speaker 1>hadn't heard anybody else talk about that specifically, and I

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01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:53.760
<v Speaker 1>always thought there had to be something more going on

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01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:57.760
<v Speaker 1>than just slab avalanche is what it's called. I was like,

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01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:00.960
<v Speaker 1>my ass, it's a slab avalanche.

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01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Unfortunately it was my friend who did more of

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01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:05.840
<v Speaker 2>the We each picked the subjects. I picked m H

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01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:07.119
<v Speaker 2>three seventy and.

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01:14:07.439 --> 01:14:08.920
<v Speaker 1>So what's going on with that? Though?

1297
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:14.560
<v Speaker 2>So much, so much so? Aston Forbes is the the

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01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:19.199
<v Speaker 2>closest thing to an expert that you're gonna find, you know,

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01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I was. I'd loosely follow him, and the airplane was abducted.

1300
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:27.920
<v Speaker 2>It was taken through a portal. What happened to it?

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01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, we don't know. It was spotted on

1302
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:35.239
<v Speaker 2>many different occasions. It was spotted on fire as well,

1303
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:40.079
<v Speaker 2>and the fire could be from all the lithium ion

1304
01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:42.279
<v Speaker 2>batteries that were in the hole. Now, the fumes from

1305
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:47.680
<v Speaker 2>the Litheon Litheon ion batteries are extremely toxic, to the

1306
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:49.920
<v Speaker 2>point that as soon as you start to notice something,

1307
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:55.119
<v Speaker 2>you're done. You are out. So it and it could

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01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:57.520
<v Speaker 2>have been on autopilot at that point. So where they

1309
01:14:57.560 --> 01:15:01.159
<v Speaker 2>discovered it, and I don't think it crashed. I don't believe.

1310
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:04.560
<v Speaker 2>I believe it was abducted. Now was it abducted by

1311
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:09.920
<v Speaker 2>aliens or was it abducted by military or clandestine governments

1312
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:13.760
<v Speaker 2>or other I think so. I think they There was

1313
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:16.119
<v Speaker 2>so much more to it. There is so much more

1314
01:15:16.119 --> 01:15:17.640
<v Speaker 2>to it. It is not enough time.

1315
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:21.399
<v Speaker 1>And about yeah he was on where I found him?

1316
01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Is he was on an episode of Candice Owens. Yes, yeah,

1317
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:29.079
<v Speaker 1>and he has a video and he's got he went

1318
01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:33.840
<v Speaker 1>after like some CIA guy and tried to get information.

1319
01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:37.560
<v Speaker 1>And like when you make these statements, I know because

1320
01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I watched the same episode you probably did. There's so

1321
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:45.039
<v Speaker 1>many layers to why he thinks that this is what happened.

1322
01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:47.079
<v Speaker 1>And then if you watch the video, you're like, oh,

1323
01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:49.760
<v Speaker 1>one hundred, it flew right into like a Bermuda triangle

1324
01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:54.159
<v Speaker 1>type of it's like a portal in the sky exactly.

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01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and yeah, So he the first time I heard him,

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01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:00.359
<v Speaker 2>he was on The Confessionals with Tony Tony Merkle, and

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01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I gotta have this guy on and

1328
01:16:03.239 --> 01:16:06.479
<v Speaker 2>he was going to come on my show, but then

1329
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:09.279
<v Speaker 2>we just couldn't. We couldn't connect at that time. But

1330
01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:11.920
<v Speaker 2>now he's kind of blowing up even more because it

1331
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.680
<v Speaker 2>was kind of like a wave actually, so he was

1332
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:17.520
<v Speaker 2>really promoting it and they thought they had something, but

1333
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:21.159
<v Speaker 2>then there was discredits coming in so like the SI

1334
01:16:21.239 --> 01:16:23.640
<v Speaker 2>of to discredit him, so he kind of dropped out.

1335
01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:26.960
<v Speaker 2>But then he was able to prove the legitimacy of

1336
01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:30.479
<v Speaker 2>all the videos that he has, including like he went

1337
01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:33.319
<v Speaker 2>down into specifics of like this is a Predator drone

1338
01:16:33.359 --> 01:16:38.039
<v Speaker 2>with a camera module on this side videoing this. They

1339
01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:42.600
<v Speaker 2>also had the heat the like the flur camera as

1340
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:45.880
<v Speaker 2>well that that does the heat.

1341
01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:47.680
<v Speaker 1>It signals and.

1342
01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the signatures yes. So it's extremely extremely interesting and

1343
01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:55.560
<v Speaker 2>how deep he goes. So I kind of like touched

1344
01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:58.520
<v Speaker 2>on it as best as I could there was the

1345
01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:01.960
<v Speaker 2>theory that the theory that the pilot was on a

1346
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:08.079
<v Speaker 2>suicide mission, which is completely ridiculous, garbage as fuck, ar badge.

1347
01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:12.039
<v Speaker 2>And and for those people who are out there saying,

1348
01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:14.520
<v Speaker 2>just leave it alone, let these let these people, let

1349
01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:18.720
<v Speaker 2>the victims rest, you know, quit bringing this up. Have

1350
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:21.560
<v Speaker 2>you talked to the families, because the families aren't buying

1351
01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:25.039
<v Speaker 2>this at all, you know, like like, don't don't assume

1352
01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:28.560
<v Speaker 2>for someone else, don't. I hate that. Actually when people

1353
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:32.960
<v Speaker 2>get offended for someone else without actually knowing the whole story.

1354
01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:36.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like completely yes, you you got to know. These

1355
01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:41.199
<v Speaker 2>families are in dire straits because they know they were taken.

1356
01:17:41.640 --> 01:17:44.239
<v Speaker 2>They know that this was all bullshit. They know it

1357
01:17:44.319 --> 01:17:47.039
<v Speaker 2>was all crap and the story that they're given is

1358
01:17:47.079 --> 01:17:50.399
<v Speaker 2>not true. And like the the aliaryon that they that

1359
01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:52.600
<v Speaker 2>they found in the water, you know, it had a

1360
01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:55.840
<v Speaker 2>certain amount of muscle growth on it, like you know,

1361
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:58.239
<v Speaker 2>like the clams on it, the muscles on it were

1362
01:17:58.319 --> 01:18:00.319
<v Speaker 2>is only for a certain amount of time. So it

1363
01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:02.560
<v Speaker 2>had only been in the water for this x amount

1364
01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:04.840
<v Speaker 2>of time and that was like, let's say, for like

1365
01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:06.880
<v Speaker 2>five months, and that was when they found it was

1366
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:08.439
<v Speaker 2>like a year and a half or two years later

1367
01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:11.960
<v Speaker 2>or something ridiculous. So it's like where was this? And

1368
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:15.720
<v Speaker 2>they did find parts, they did find pieces on these

1369
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:20.560
<v Speaker 2>other areas, but it's like, no, this, what happened to this?

1370
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:23.800
<v Speaker 1>It never none of it adds up actually, and the

1371
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:27.720
<v Speaker 1>timeline is all crazy. And think of it like cause

1372
01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I know they say that about think think of the

1373
01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:33.399
<v Speaker 1>families and why are you making this big deal? Like okay,

1374
01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:35.199
<v Speaker 1>think of it like this if you one of your

1375
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:38.560
<v Speaker 1>loved ones was murdered. Okay, I'm sure you don't want

1376
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:41.520
<v Speaker 1>them to have autopsy and be sliced open and do

1377
01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:43.319
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. I'm sure you don't want them to

1378
01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:46.159
<v Speaker 1>be doing forensics and trying. But we're trying to catch

1379
01:18:46.199 --> 01:18:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the killer, asshole. That's the point, I mean, the point

1380
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:53.840
<v Speaker 1>we get it like rip to the victims, but let

1381
01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:56.520
<v Speaker 1>us do what we need to do so they have justice.

1382
01:18:56.560 --> 01:18:59.119
<v Speaker 1>That's the point. Yes, this is the point.

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01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:05.199
<v Speaker 2>People died or people are missing, Okay, Like I am

1384
01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:07.239
<v Speaker 2>not denying that at all. You know, we go to

1385
01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:10.199
<v Speaker 2>like nine to eleven as well. Completely there were people

1386
01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:13.680
<v Speaker 2>that were people that die, people that are missing, but

1387
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:16.479
<v Speaker 2>the true narrative has never been told. They're like, well,

1388
01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:19.680
<v Speaker 2>just just let it go. No, because those people are

1389
01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:22.079
<v Speaker 2>still running out there, they're still doing stuff and you're

1390
01:19:22.119 --> 01:19:25.319
<v Speaker 2>okay with it. No, because this is gonna happen again,

1391
01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:28.720
<v Speaker 2>because it has happened again multiple times because guess what

1392
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you just said, Oh, just leave it go, just don't

1393
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:34.960
<v Speaker 2>talk about it. No, that we need to talk about this.

1394
01:19:35.399 --> 01:19:38.000
<v Speaker 2>We need to make so much noise that they actually

1395
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:40.800
<v Speaker 2>start to look into this. Like there is over three

1396
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:43.520
<v Speaker 2>thousand architects that have signed a petition for them to

1397
01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:47.760
<v Speaker 2>open the investigation on Building seven, you know, because they

1398
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:50.319
<v Speaker 2>all agree, because so many of them were showing the

1399
01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:53.199
<v Speaker 2>video and they all said, oh, that's a controlled demolition.

1400
01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:56.560
<v Speaker 2>That's controlled demolition. Not one has said that, oh that's

1401
01:19:56.680 --> 01:20:00.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a building coming down naturally, you know from structural fires,

1402
01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:02.199
<v Speaker 2>which is like nothing nothing.

1403
01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1404
01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are people out there wanting answers, and then

1405
01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:10.039
<v Speaker 2>there's the people out there who just don't have a

1406
01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:12.640
<v Speaker 2>clue and they just believe that everything is fine in

1407
01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:14.520
<v Speaker 2>this world.

1408
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, those people are definitely going to find no interest

1409
01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:22.079
<v Speaker 1>in either one of our podcasts because I like to

1410
01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:24.760
<v Speaker 1>dig deep. I like to find the answers. I think

1411
01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:29.119
<v Speaker 1>people deserve to know the truth, and it's important now

1412
01:20:29.159 --> 01:20:32.439
<v Speaker 1>more than ever because so many weird things are coming

1413
01:20:32.439 --> 01:20:37.079
<v Speaker 1>out JFK files, there's cylinders under the pyramid, there's this,

1414
01:20:37.239 --> 01:20:39.960
<v Speaker 1>there's that we're going to get disclosure were people need

1415
01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:43.880
<v Speaker 1>to understand where to put their trust into question everything

1416
01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:47.399
<v Speaker 1>because there's just so we're being inundated right now with

1417
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:49.159
<v Speaker 1>this crazy bullshit.

1418
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Which that's one thing, Like I'm kind of stepping back

1419
01:20:52.199 --> 01:20:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a little bit because there's so much going out right now,

1420
01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:57.760
<v Speaker 2>and when when we get a boatload of information given

1421
01:20:57.800 --> 01:21:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to us, I'm like, Okay, what are they justtry from us?

1422
01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:03.359
<v Speaker 2>What's over that way, what's going on over here? You

1423
01:21:03.399 --> 01:21:06.279
<v Speaker 2>know now? Or is this the truth? Are we actually

1424
01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:08.960
<v Speaker 2>given the truth? Or is this this kind of misleading information?

1425
01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:12.359
<v Speaker 2>And so you gotta do it.

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01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, for those of my listeners who have never

1427
01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:20.399
<v Speaker 1>heard you before, I'm sure they heard the Magdalene episode

1428
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:23.239
<v Speaker 1>because that was awesome, But if they are listening for

1429
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the first time, can you tell everyone where they can

1430
01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:26.239
<v Speaker 1>find your work?

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01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Sure? Yeah, I'm I'm I'm like you. I'm on YouTube,

1432
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:36.399
<v Speaker 2>So I am I am at Codega's Codex of Curiosities.

1433
01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I interview all walks of people, people who've had experiences, experiencers, researchers,

1434
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:48.199
<v Speaker 2>and everybody in between. And it's everything from Bigfoot, Cryptid's

1435
01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:55.760
<v Speaker 2>alien abductions to Atlantis, Edgar Casey, Gary, Wayne Nephelim, all

1436
01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:56.279
<v Speaker 2>the above.

1437
01:21:56.800 --> 01:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I love it all too.

1438
01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, and Spotify, Apple YouTube rumble.

1439
01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:06.560
<v Speaker 1>What if one of the listeners has seen a UFO

1440
01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:08.239
<v Speaker 1>or something like that, they want to get in touch

1441
01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:10.239
<v Speaker 1>with you. How do you want people to contact you?

1442
01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they can. They can reach out faith thanks

1443
01:22:13.720 --> 01:22:17.119
<v Speaker 2>for that. They can reach out to like Facebook, Rye Vos,

1444
01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I have my my group. I know Facebook is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like this dying thing, but for some reason, I

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<v Speaker 2>just touched. I'm attached to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm still on I'm on Instagram as well. Or

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<v Speaker 2>they can or they can email codecs of Curiosities at

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<v Speaker 2>gmail dot com and reach out and uh, we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>a discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so awesome. I'm so glad you came on. I

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<v Speaker 1>had all these questions typed up because I finally found

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast that's like talking about all the same things

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in. So I hope I didn't talk your

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<v Speaker 1>ear off, but thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all. It was great. It was a great

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<v Speaker 2>conversation I thoroughly appreciate, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too, Me too. And you know, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>on a cult reject or my show, or if I

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<v Speaker 1>come on your show or whatever. I hope to work

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<v Speaker 1>with you again in the future. And thanks to all

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners out there, we will catch you on the

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<v Speaker 1>next one.