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the hour, as we always do on Friday, we'll chat

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with Brett Winterble for a little segment we like to

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call Pregaming with Brett And What's today? Is today a

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day that ends in the letter Why? Yes? Yes, it is? Okay, good.

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So it's another day that ends in the letter Why.

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And so we have another story on another batch of

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declassified documents from our Intel agencies. Yes, I'm not going

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to stop covering this, folks, I'm not going to stop

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highlighting that we were right. This is a weaponized quote

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unquote deep state. It was targeting Trump and his campaign,

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his aids, his advisors.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: It was weaponized by Obama. It was weaponized by these

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intel chiefs and people in the top ranks of the government.

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And many of those people are actually still in government,

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and a lot of them are in their shadow government

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posts in universities and think tanks and NGOs, just waiting

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for a Democrat to regain the White House and then

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they will all move right back in. That's their system.

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Republicans do not have this kind of a system. What

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little elements they do have are little. Okay, they may

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have a couple of think tanks here and there, but

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they do not have the university posts. They don't get

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the John Edwards treatment. You know, the former US senator

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ran for president and then vice president, right and after

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he was out of the US Senate, they gave him

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a soft landing pad at UNC Chapel Hill for him

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to do his you know, poverty work and all of that.

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But that was just a placeholder, give him a paycheck

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until he could then turn around and run for office

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again and lose. But he But the point is like

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same thing with Roy Cooper going up to Harvard, former

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Governor Bev Purdue going also to Harvard. Right, they get

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them these posts, they pay them a bunch of money,

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and then they get some breathing room to chart their

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course for the next uh, for the next run. So

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the latest now we have is declassified emails from James Clapper.

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Former Director of National Intelligence. James Clapp was adamant about

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sticking to the narrative that Russia interfered in the twenty

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sixteen election to help President Trump, despite concerns raised by

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a top intelligence official. Clapper described the Obama administration's effort

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to revamp an intelligence community assessment called the ICA on

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this ICA was about Russia election medaling, and he described

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the effort as a quote unquote team sport and one

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that may require the intelligence community to quote compromise its

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own standards. This latest intelligence declassification provided by the Office

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of the Director of National Intelligence Telsea Gabbard. Former National

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Security Agency Director Mike Rogers, a Republican, warned at the

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time that his team had concerns about this rush that

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Clapper and Obama and Brennan, the head of the CIA,

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that they were in this rush to get the ICA

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to get this report out as quickly as they wanted to.

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You know your recall, we went over this timeline like

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a week and a half ago or so, right when

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the timeline became clear thanks to another batch of declassified

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intel and memos and emails, right that the timeline was

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in December. The key dates are in December, from mid

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to late December of twenty sixteen, So after Trump beat

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Hillary and before he gets inaugurated and takes office, you

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have this intelligence community assessment that was worked up and

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given to Obama. Believe the date was December ninth, twenty sixteen,

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and it is then pulled back and a new one

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is rushed through, And the new one that is rushed

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through is now representing a higher level of confidence in

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this assertion that Putin wanted Trump to win, and that

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Putin directly had involvement in hacking the DNC, ordering the

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hack of the DNC's emails and servers in order to

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help Trump win. Right, And that was all based on

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the Steele dossier, which Brennan at the CIA refused to

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let other people look at, and didn't he classified it

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at the highest level and then buried the thing, so

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people could not see the original source material. So the

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analysts in all of the you know, fifteen other intel

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agencies couldn't see the source material. They just had to

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take Bread word for it. That got released too a

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couple of weeks ago. See, so we're putting together the

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timeline of events here, and we're filling in these gaps,

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and so this rush to redo the assessment to include

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the Steele Dosier and then also to include representations made

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to Brennan by a source of his that he never

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would disclose. It was just trust me, and he literally

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said this, doesn't it sound true? And what is now

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understood is that that source was a guy named Igor Denchenko,

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and Brennan said he could not tell anybody who his

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source was because Putin would have him whacked. And that

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does sound like Putin. That's very on brand for Puti Puot,

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you know. But slight problem. Denchenko is actually like living

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out in the open. He's not in hiding or anything.

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And like his home addresses Lissi's in Northern Virginia and whatever.

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So it's not even like, yeah, it's not like he's

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in hiding from Putin. He's doesn't seem to be terribly afraid,

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and either way, it's like, that's not whatever he told

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Brennan allegedly, which I think that came out. I'm trying

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to remember if Denchhenko was attributed with this information, but

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he actually claims to have not said any of this. Anyway,

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that's what gets used to prop up this false narrative

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that Trump is Putin's puppet, and Putin wanted Trump to win,

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and the timeline has to be accelerated because the president

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gets a thing called the PDB, the Presidential Daily Briefing,

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President's Daily Briefing comes in and it's based on these icas,

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these intelligence community assessments. And the problem was that they

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had been running around accusing Trump of being this Russian

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asset based on the Hillary Clinton campaign lies, their opo

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smears and stuff that were developed during the campaign, and

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they had been planning for months. She loses, and now

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Trump is getting access to the pdbs because he's the

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president elect, and so they now start looping in the

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president elect before he actually takes office. So this way

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he's not walking in the door blind to the last month,

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month and a half of intelligence community assessment reports. So

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now they know he needs to be he's going to

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be included, So that's when they falsify the reports. That's

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when they start adding this stuff in while masking through

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classification status masking the root sources in order to convey

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this idea that the intelligence community believes Putin wanted Trump

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to win and helped him do so when it was

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never true and they knew it wasn't true. But that,

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of course is then used to launch crossfire Hurricane, the

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investigation of Donald Trump, the wiretapping of his campaign, all

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the people around him, and it is used to hobble

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any efforts that he may have had in making success

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or delivering results on his make America Great Again agenda.

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It was to hobble his administration's first term and maybe

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get him impeached, right because they hated Trump so much,

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they viewed him as an existential threat, so everything was

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justified in taking him out. Mike Rogers at the NSA

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said his team has concerns about this rush to get

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the report out so fast and the fact that they

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couldn't see the underlying intelligence that was used to produce

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this product, so they were very hesitant to sign on

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to it because we couldn't We can't say we have

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a high confidence in this assessment because we don't have that.

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We don't know what you know, and the CIA wouldn't

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So this is a story at the New York Post

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from Victor Nava, and it's called Declassified Emails show James

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Clapper's dismissive response to Intel community concerns over Russia election

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interference report. Former NSA director Mike Rodgers was telling Clapper

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that he and his intel people are concerned about this

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rush to put out this report, this ICA, the intelligence

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community assessment, the timing of it was of concern, but

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also that his own people could not get access to

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the underlying intel that was used to produce this ICA,

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and specifically the part where they were accusing Russia of

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hacking the DNC and the d Triple C and getting

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all their emails and stuff right, He said, I'm concerned

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about the expedited nature of this activity. Clapper urged Rogers

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to fall in line, saying, quote, understand your concern. It

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is essential that we be on the same page and

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are all supportive of the report in the highest tradition

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of that's our story, and we're sticking to it like

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what's he's describing there, like that when the legend becomes truth,

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print the legend. That's what he's saying. This is our

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story and we're sticking to it. But it's our story. See.

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He went on to shut down any more talk of

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any more time being needed to produce this. He said,

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we will facilitate as much mutual transparency as possible as

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we complete the report, but more time is not negotiable.

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We may have to compromise on our normal modalities since

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we must do this on such a compressed schedule. This

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is one project that has to be a team sport.

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This exchange over email came a couple of days after

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that December ninth, twenty sixteen meeting between former President Barack Obama,

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Clapper Brennan, and other top administration officials, during which the

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president demanded a report detailing the tools that Moscow used

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and actions it took to influence the twenty sixteen election

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to help Trump win. The previous intel the ICA Intelligence

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Community assessment that was rejected by Obama determined that quote

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Russian and criminal actors did not impact recent US election

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results by conducting malicious cyberac activities against election infrastructure. So

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the new Ica said the opposite, and it was based

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on nothing, nothing that was not debunked, nothing that was provable.

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The NSA would actually go on to sign off on

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the new report. Tulci Gabbert has been on the warpath

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against the actors behind the Trump Russia collusion narrative and

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said Clapper's email reinforces what we already exposed. The decision

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to compromise standards and violate protocols in the creation of

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the twenty seventeen manufactured Intelligence Assessment was deliberate and came

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from the very top. Now there's another, Uh, there's another

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related story here, and this comes from the Federalist piece

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by Hans mankey Menca Monk Mahnke. I don't know how

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He's an in house council at a global business advisory firm,

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so a lawyer guy, and he's the author of Swift

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Voting America exposing the Russia Gate fraud and the Steele

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dossier to the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation. He's been covering

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this for years at the Federalist. And there's a larger

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point here. Beyond just our internal national politics and the

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corruption of our intelligence services. Right in releasing these two

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emails and doing it when she did it. Tolcy Gabbard, I,

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according to him, and I agree with him, thinks she

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did this when she did this because Trump is in

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Alaska meeting with Putin their meeting they should be meeting. Well, yeah,

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looks like he has arrived now in Alaska. Right, it

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comes just two days before the release of the emails,

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was just two days ago before this summit. These emails

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again reveal that Clapper pushed the fraudulent narrative that Russia

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hacked the DNC. He overrided objections from the NSA and

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the timing manners because this very narrative, this claim that

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Russia hacked the DNC to help Trump, was used to

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sabotage the twenty eighteen Trump Putin summit in Helsinki. Three

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days before that meeting, in twenty eighteen, Special Council Robert

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Muller indicted twelve Russian nationals on charges of hacking the DNC.

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The indictment was designed to create political chaos. Muller knew

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that the twelve Russians were located in Russia and would

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never stand trial, meaning he would never need to prove

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his case. The result of the indictments was exactly what Muller,

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his team, and any yet to be identified coconine spirators intended,

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which was to sabotage the summit and defectively criminalize diplomacy

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with Russia. Trump addressed the hacking directly at that summit

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when he was up there. He took questions because Trump,

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you know, and what Trump said at the summit sparked

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all sorts of outrage and consternation. He said, you have

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groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the

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server from the DNC. Right, the FBI never got ahold

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of that server. The DNC said it was hacked, and

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the FBI comes in and says, well, all right, we're

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going to do an analysis on that. Let's get access

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to your computers and servers whatever. They're like, no, we'll

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do it ourselves and then we'll tell you what we get.

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But the government, the Intel community, they never got access

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to the company that they used was called CrowdStrike, and

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the Intel agencies and they never got access to the

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CrowdStrike data. CrowdStrike just told them it was Russia. And

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the Intel people were like, we can't confirm this low confidence.

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We can't confirm it. They won't show us anything. Basically,

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we don't believe it to be true. It might be true,

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but we don't believe it's true right now because there's

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no evidence. They presented no evidence to us. But that

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two got changed, completely flipped around, and that was then

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cited that it is high confidence. Remember we covered that

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one a couple weeks ago, that declassified dump, which was

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they switched it from a low confidence assessment to a

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high confidence assessment based on nothing, based on pressure from

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the top. And so when Trump is asked about this,

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he says, people are wondering, why didn't the FBI take

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the server. Why haven't they taken the server? Why was

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the FBI told to leave the office of the Democrat

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National Committee. It was never examined by the FBI or

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any other US government agency, and people went nuts. This

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proves he's in the pocket of Putin and at tanked

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News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine to three WBT. On

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the text line, Jeff says, could we could ask the

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DNC crowd strike and whomever else was in on the

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coup if they feel bad about the fact that their

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lie led to the depths of how many hundreds of

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thousands or maybe millions of people in Russia and Ukraine.

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They'd probably answer, well, he didn't win, did he? Well?

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Slight problem there is that Trump actually did win, and

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he can't use the Harry Lyon read that he used

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in defending the lie and smear against Mitt Romney on

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his tax returns. So at this Helsinki summit in twenty eighteen,

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he got the whole Russia Gate thing swirling all around Trump,

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and he's asked about it, and he points out that

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the FBI never got a hold of the server from

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the DNC to prove that they were actually hacked, and

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he's like, what's up with that? Outrage ensues. He's labeled

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a trader for refusing to accept the truth capital t truth,

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the Russian hacked narrative without any evidence, even his own

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DNI at the time, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coates,

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as well as a lot of Republicans publicly pushed back

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against him. But as it turns out, Trump was right,

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and the newly released emails from Tolsey Gabbert now confirmed

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that his skepticism was one hundred percent justified. The fact

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that Clapper was pushing a false narrative to undermine Trump

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is further corroborated by an earlier DNI report released by Gabbard.

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It was from twenty sixteen that stated the FBI in

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the NSA lacked sufficient technical details to correlate the information

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posted online to Russian state sponsored actors, meaning there was

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no way to determine whether Russia had actually hacked the DNC.

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The fact that the DNC hack, if it indeed even

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was a hack, as opposed to some internal leak that

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has never been resolved, has much to do with how

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it was initially handled. When the issue first arose. Rather

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than calling in the FBI, they called in Clinton's campaign lawyer,

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Michael Sussman. He brought in the cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. Now

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what is clear is that Sussman would later funnel a

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fabricated story about secret Trump putent communications via Russian's Alpha Bank.

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Susman was the guy who gave that lie to the

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FBI to get them to investigate it, because Susman used

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to work for the FBI and knew what was the

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guy's name, James Baker I believe was his name. CrowdStrike

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quickly and very publicly then proclaimed that Russian state actors

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were responsible. However, when the head of CrowdStrike, the chief

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security officer, Sean Henry, was called to testify under oath

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in twenty seventeen before the House Intelligence Committee, which was

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led at that time by Republican Devin Nuness, he said

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CrowdStrike had quote no direct evidence that any data had

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actually been exfiltrated, in other words, removed. Well, if you

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are going to hack the DNC servers get all the

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information in order to help Trump, why wouldn't you take it?

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Why wouldn't you take the information? Why would you just

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gain access and not take anything in order to help Trump? Right?

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I mean, like, I'm no spy expert here, but it

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seems like if you hack in the purposes to then

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take stuff and bring it out and then you can

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use it to help Trump. If you don't take the

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stuff out, then there's like, what's the point. This new

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release of classified declassified intel by Tulsa Gabbart is a

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vindication for Trump. It strengthens Trump's position ahead of the

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upcoming summit. Actually, no longer will he need to contend

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with fake hoaxes dominating the agenda. He can focus on

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the task at hand, which is bringing peace to Ukraine.

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The release also serves as maybe a bit of an

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olive branch to Russia, effectively amounting to an admission by

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the US intel community that the people who ran it

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knowingly advanced a false claim trying to under mind Trump

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and sabotage US Russian relations. So I thought this was

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interesting that the timing of this two days before the

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summit may actually be an attempt to strengthen Trump's position

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as he goes in there for that meeting with Putin.

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We shall see. He has arrived in Alaska. He's sitting

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on the tarmac right now, and it's totally something that

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I think Trump would do, is to make Putin wait

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a while, you know, or no, you know, maybe he's

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on the tarmac chatting it up with Loretta Lynch, showing

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pictures of their grand babies or something that could be it.

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At this time we do a little thing we like

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how are you.

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Speaker 3: It's good to be with you. I really appreciate the opportunity.

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We are celebrating here today. We've got this is.

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Speaker 3: Show going on here tonight.

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Speaker 1: Oh grateful dudes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, your guys, no, man, there you go. So it's

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gonna be a wonderful night, very exciting. I always love

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being here in the early part of the day because

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it's just you can really take everything in and it's

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it's just really remarkable, and then who knows what's gonna

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end up happening. We have to hop a jet and

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head up to Alaska and see what we can do

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to kind of, you know, officiate the Sitch.

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Speaker 1: Are you being summoned? Are you summoned to Alaska? Have

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they asked for your your expertise and.

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Speaker 2: Your d But I think you and I would be

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the perfect team to go up there and kind of

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put things together.

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Speaker 1: Because I but I don't speak Russian.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't either, right, So this is my concern, like

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we don't like I heard like at some other meetup,

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I think it was witkof met with some Russian guy

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and they used the Russian translator, like the guy from Russia,

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they used him as their translator. Like that's not wise, Like,

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please hire your own Russian translator, who is not going

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to be like telling you something different than what Putin

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is saying, you know, because Putin speaks English, so he

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doesn't even need the translator.

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Speaker 2: He does he does you look, you saw him in

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that movie with Rocky I Must Break You.

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Speaker 3: That's true, that's that's it.

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Speaker 1: Very clean. Yeah, he's very clean. He knows a lot

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of English. So yeah, I would just that that would

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be like my one piece of advice is bring your

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own Russian translator.

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Speaker 3: I think that's really smart.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, if you were if you

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were in charge of sending somebody with Trump into the

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room from his administration, okay.

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Speaker 3: From the administration.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who would you have riding in that second chair

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with President Trump?

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Speaker 1: Hmmm, I don't know, well I would, yes, Yeah, so

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Rubio crossed my mind. But also Steven Miller because that guy, Wow,

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he's like he's like the Iceman. He strikes me as

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somebody who could get into a staring contest with Putin

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and the and like it would last probably weeks. You know, Yes,

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that's really good. I don't know why you would need

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a staring contest in order to get anything done, but

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you never know, like that might pop up at some

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point where it's like this is the way we settle

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things in Russia, you know, staring contest. Or then again,

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you may want to go with somebody who's a bit

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more jacked, because maybe it's like an arm wrestling kind

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of a deal. Maybe that's the way they settle stuff. Yeah, yeah,

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who would you take?

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, man, I think I would take

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the guy who's doing all the deals around the world.

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Speaker 3: I'm driving a blank on his name wi cough No,

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not no, Wick cough. Is that is the nice guy? Uh?

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The other guy the other guy that yells all the time.

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, no, oh God Navarro, no never never

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the uh here, hold on a second.

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Speaker 3: The trade who's the trade who's the trade guy for Trump? Uh? Tariffs?

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I'm looking this up in real time because I know

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it's I can see his face. He's balding. He's an

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older guy. That's that's not with cough gets is a

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much more sedate Nah. Yeah, you know, I mean it's

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it's you know who.

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Speaker 1: I'm oh, you the Alex Jones.

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Speaker 3: It's not Alex Joe.

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Speaker 1: I would know. I'm saying, maybe maybe bring Alex Jones.

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Why just for just just to create chaos.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna deny that there's a meeting, like you know,

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he's he's the denier.

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Speaker 1: Now if they bust out some babies to be eating, oh,

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Circle of Live. Yeah, how did you find the guy yet?

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The guy you're trying to name, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it. It's not Wick. It's not Wick cough. It's uh,

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it's the other guy, all right, that guy, the other guy?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, maybe Brett we'll find out before his

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show starts. Momentarily, I'm better reveal it at the out

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of the box, all right, I'll do it for this episode.

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