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<v Speaker 1>This, this is this is gonna have to be I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to do it. You turn it on, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>how I see it? It's on. Oh I can't hear anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you not hear myself?

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you just fine, okay, it's it's coming through fine, yeah, okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>then you don't hear yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hear myself at all. No, maybe plug in

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe plug in the blanking headphones again.

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<v Speaker 2>I was wondering why you pulled your mouth away from

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<v Speaker 2>the microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, do you not do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm like, yeah, we are recording, but like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you leaving all this in?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Okay, good, all right, all right, well now I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear myself. I don't know why. I just

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<v Speaker 1>assume it's plugged in. I plug in my own headphones

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<v Speaker 1>in the score studio all the time. I just assume

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<v Speaker 1>I picked these up and they're plugged in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you made fun of me about the headphones on

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<v Speaker 2>the way in here to make fun of you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just you remembered them, which was good. I can't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Took the time to make a comment.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, yeah, I can't. I mean, at least

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<v Speaker 1>you remember to plug them in. I can't even remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember to bring them though. I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Okay, I gotta I gotta come clean with you

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<v Speaker 2>about some that I felt bad about making us do

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<v Speaker 2>Running Man this week because I, as I told you

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<v Speaker 2>off during your show yesterday, I didn't realize that now

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<v Speaker 2>you three me had come out.

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<v Speaker 1>They're that's what I'm calling it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm calling it at the very least, And

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that you wanted to see it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Oh, if I would have known, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>because we have a good we have a symbiotic relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>like we do a good job of just seeing what

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<v Speaker 2>the other people want to see.

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<v Speaker 1>My whole thing was we were going to see both

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<v Speaker 1>of them anyway. So what difference is that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I get that, but I like because I like

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<v Speaker 2>doing things for people that do things with me. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's what you want to see, I still wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to see that as well. And you weren't just sold

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<v Speaker 2>on this. But I say all that to say I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel bad anymore because that movie, fucking rock It

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<v Speaker 2>was a good movie. It was so good, it was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy we went to go see that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, so we saw The Running Man with is it

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<v Speaker 1>Running Man or the Running Not running Man? Glenn Powell,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Brolin, a remake of the nineteen eighty seven Arnold

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<v Speaker 1>Schwarzenegger film based on the nineteen eighty two novel Stephen King.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, second one of the Bachmann books that we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>here in the last.

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<v Speaker 1>That Long Walk was the other one. Yeah, in the

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<v Speaker 1>last the trio here. Yeah, So yeah, I guess for

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<v Speaker 1>me going into this, it was fine, Like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mind seeing it at you know whatever. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the original that I saw. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think part of the reason is because I maybe

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like it all that much. But then when we

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<v Speaker 1>got talking about like eighties action movies, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>originally an eighties action movie, right, and and so why

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't I like it? You brought that up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about expendables and Diehard and all this other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Why wouldn't you like it? I'm like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I should like this? And I did. Spoiler alert, I

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<v Speaker 1>did like this movie. Did you rewatch the original?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I did not. I did not the There's so much

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<v Speaker 1>to unpack here and I don't know which way you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go right away, but I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about who we identify in this movie. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think at least for me and Ben. My mind was

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<v Speaker 1>racing once the rules of the game of the Running

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<v Speaker 1>Man game show we're being listed out for us as

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<v Speaker 1>the audience. I'm like, Okay, how do I circumvent this?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I like, how would I play this game

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<v Speaker 1>if I was the running ban Did you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>As of course, of course, I even mentioned to John

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan about an hour ago, wapl legend, John Jordan, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, there's a pretty lengthy rule explanation

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<v Speaker 2>that can sometimes slow the pace down. I said that

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<v Speaker 2>about F one as well. I said, if I already

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<v Speaker 2>knew the rules, I might find myself a little bored

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<v Speaker 2>about kind of going over this stuff that people. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>this didn't slow like it was. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>necessary because it eliminates a lot of your like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I would just do this, and it's like, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to video yourself and mail it every day, so

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<v Speaker 2>you can't. You can't just tuck yourself in a hole somewhere, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And like there's just like little moments like that that

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<v Speaker 2>do away with a lot of plot holes that otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>would exist.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this, Yeah, you get a billion new

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<v Speaker 1>dollars as they call it. Yeah, I love it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love with Schwarzenegger on on the on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the bills, which I thought was great. And you also

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<v Speaker 1>noticed there was an Obama street this as well. Okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>a billion new dollars? Yeah, what's to say that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't hook up with somebody who swings by some random

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<v Speaker 1>place every day, maybe with a lot of people bringing

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<v Speaker 1>supplies in, taking the tape, dropping it in the box

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<v Speaker 1>different times every day, so there's no pattern, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just split the billion dollars. Why wouldn't that work?

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<v Speaker 2>That was probably the biggest plot hole in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>is that they pay three thousand dollars as a finder's

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<v Speaker 2>fee if you tip the police.

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<v Speaker 1>If you what do they call it record and reports. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you get video of the of one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Running Man contestants and then you you.

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<v Speaker 2>Which leads to a kill, you get three great, right, right?

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<v Speaker 1>You get you tip off the hunters and if the

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<v Speaker 1>hunters kill them, then you get three thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we just handle it on your own and

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<v Speaker 2>it's ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten thousand, which is still nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'd say one hundred million. I wouldn't even lowball them,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's not like I'm coming in a million. I'd say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm giving you ten percent of what I'm walking away

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<v Speaker 2>with in this if you do not take me out.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are friendly faces throughout this, which I did appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>Very similar long walk where you wouldn't expect to find friends,

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<v Speaker 2>but again similar idea here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that the whole friend aspect of it

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<v Speaker 1>is is not necessarily I think it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>different with Bill Macy's character because I think he clearly

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<v Speaker 1>was a friend of Glenn Powell.

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<v Speaker 2>Which that was the most heartbreaking. He's like, I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to give you a job. It's not a spoiler,

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<v Speaker 2>it's five minutes of the movies, Like, you didn't need

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<v Speaker 2>to do this. I was going to give you a job.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I call that Homeward Bounding. If

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever seen the movie Homeward bound Bound, do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember that one? No, It's like it's it's Michael J.

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<v Speaker 2>Fox and two other people that I'm blanking on who

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<v Speaker 2>plays them? And they play two dogs and a cat

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<v Speaker 2>and they escape like they voice the animals. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>live Actually, the entire movie is an hour and a

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<v Speaker 2>half and I was like six when it came out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of my favorite movies of all time

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<v Speaker 2>as a child. And like they'd be at the vet

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<v Speaker 2>and the vet was portrayed as an asshole, and then

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<v Speaker 2>help them and the family was on their way, and

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<v Speaker 2>right as the family would walk in through the door,

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<v Speaker 2>the dogs the cat would escape. There's some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>over the top means, and then they'd end up at

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<v Speaker 2>this homeless encampment, and the homeless encampment seemed like it

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<v Speaker 2>was evil, and then it turned out that it was

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<v Speaker 2>actually there to help them. And just as the owners

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<v Speaker 2>were getting to the homeless encampment, the animals would escape,

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<v Speaker 2>Ah forcots and every ten minutes, like you're just screwing

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<v Speaker 2>with these six year old lives. I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>was getting homeward bound in that moment. I'm like, why

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<v Speaker 2>didn't you tell him this yesterday? We could have avoided

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<v Speaker 2>all of this. See, when I had a job, he

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have needed to do this. He could have helped

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<v Speaker 2>his kid, and now we've got a whole premise and

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<v Speaker 2>it hurts in that way. I made that term up.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel free to steal it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, that makes sense. Yeah, So the point I was

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<v Speaker 1>making was I don't think they're necessarily friends, like especially

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<v Speaker 1>with the family that kind of takes him in for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Yeah. I think that that was more

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<v Speaker 1>of just like, hey, we're both against the network and

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<v Speaker 1>we're both against this government. And by the way, this

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<v Speaker 1>is setting like a dystopian future. Is it for the

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<v Speaker 1>United States? Is it okay? The stuff that I saw

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<v Speaker 1>in this movie I have not seen exist to this

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<v Speaker 1>degree in reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet I thought it did a good job of emulating

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<v Speaker 2>today while being in the future. The technology was advanced,

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<v Speaker 2>and again they start filming the stuff two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's some things that happened in this movie that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, oh wow, that's very prescient for what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening right now. And there's it. It's the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing a lot of these movies held. The original one

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<v Speaker 2>takes place in the future that felt like a much

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<v Speaker 2>more distant future than this did. This felt like essentially

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<v Speaker 2>contemporary America with fancier things. The dependence on reality TV.

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<v Speaker 2>They have their version of the Kardashian The Kardashians.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great. Yeah did you see who played them?

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<v Speaker 1>And I know Debbie Maysur was one of Oh I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see who the other ones were. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like some of the like the television in the hotel room,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean stuff like that doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, absolutely not. But there was just the element

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<v Speaker 2>of having come from a corporate radio station when he's

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with the boss and there's no real understanding. I

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<v Speaker 2>was part of a unionization effort, so when unions are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of used as a reason to fire somebody, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's just a lot of moments that feel very relevant

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<v Speaker 2>to today's America, just in uh a more. I compared

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<v Speaker 2>it to Black Mirror with a friend of mine yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>after I got out of it, and I said, it

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<v Speaker 2>reminds me of Black Mirror. Nothing in Black Mirror exists today,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're like, this feels like five years away, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't feel like we're that far off from having

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was. It was such an authoritarian existence,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where like we we don't. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more Glenn Powell's in society today than there were in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, where it just seemed like everybody is just

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<v Speaker 1>browbeaten into the ground. You think, yeah, at least at

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<v Speaker 1>least initially, and then you know, you talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>the original this was all a distraction to keep people

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<v Speaker 1>talking about anything else other than life. Than life, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the basically, you know, these people who have nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean literally nothing, like they're their only respite is

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, ye, so so they put they give you psychological tests,

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<v Speaker 1>And then they tell you what game show you're going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Game shows that can cause death, like The Running Man

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<v Speaker 2>A wipeout allegory if you're familiar with the ABC game

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<v Speaker 2>show Wipeout. When people are running, they show you people

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<v Speaker 2>because I do outside the box so much as I

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard for me to watch people trying to stack

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you know, I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 2>And that was kind of the vibe that I was

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<v Speaker 1>Here did you notice? So the first game show that

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<v Speaker 1>The host of that was named Gary Greenbacks. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>probably a stage name, right. Sure, do you know who

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<v Speaker 1>what actor played him? I can't even remember the face?

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, he had the glasses. Yeah, the Sean Hayes

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<v Speaker 1>from Will and Grace. Oh really? And and Sean Hayes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so wild because he always plays this you know,

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<v Speaker 1>over the top performer on Will and Grace for years, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And now the last two things I've seen him in

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<v Speaker 1>still Sean Hayes. Yeah. Crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not the only time. Are you a black

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<v Speaker 2>mirror person or no? Like talk about black mirror? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I know of it, yeah, but you didn't watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>If I said fifteen million credits. You don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>A well was the one that you were telling me about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there's one the Uss Calister. That's the one

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<v Speaker 2>in the fifteen million credits one. It takes place in

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<v Speaker 2>a future where ninety percent of the population pedals bikes

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<v Speaker 2>for a living. They're like stationary bikes, and pedaling the

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<v Speaker 2>bikes generates the energy that keeps society running, so they

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<v Speaker 2>society is they are the janitors. So everyone treats the

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<v Speaker 1>And it seems like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A recurring theme in a lot of these futuristic movies

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<v Speaker 2>that that kind of and it popped immediately. That was

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<v Speaker 2>where my mind right when I was watching the Hamster

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<v Speaker 2>reel thing there. Yeah, and it it feels it feels relevant,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I say, it feels relevant to today. And to

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<v Speaker 2>be perfectly Frank, I was gonna make the joke when

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<v Speaker 2>you were setting up before this could have we could

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<v Speaker 2>have just replayed the intro to The Long Walk. Yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people that don't see any other option

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<v Speaker 2>other than to take part in this contest in order

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<v Speaker 2>to make the billion dollars and get your one wish

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<v Speaker 2>and do all these things. Very clearly, Stephen King was

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<v Speaker 2>going through some things, and it it's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>comforting to know that in the early eighties a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people were looking well, at least he was looking

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<v Speaker 2>at society through the same lens that I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people look at it through today, because this

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<v Speaker 2>felt relevant today that years again, right, and think about

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<v Speaker 2>this too, like that's for years, that's when orwell's nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four, this is when we're like, okay, how much

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<v Speaker 2>of this came true?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You know, so like we were looking at there,

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<v Speaker 1>We had a very futuristic viewpoint on that novel for years,

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<v Speaker 1>and then as we're coming up on the actual timeline

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<v Speaker 1>and that people looked at it like okay, well where

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<v Speaker 1>are we at here? And and Stephen King was one

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely and h And.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, like I don't think he was like

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen King capital letter Stephen King at this point, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was he was still making his way.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe he was one of these starving artists that like,

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<v Speaker 2>That was exactly it just so happens it hit for him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, it's just like the NFL. You only ever

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<v Speaker 2>see this guy was living in his car. Now is

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<v Speaker 2>the cornerback for the Green Bay Packers. You don't see

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty other people that were living in their car

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<v Speaker 2>that are living in their car. Stephen King's the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that emerged stories that feel that they just transcend. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels very real, and I could watch a thousand of

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<v Speaker 2>these kind of movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Powell's portrayal of Ben Richards in this film Likable Unlikable.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he wanted to be John McClain very badly,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think he's a Bruce Willis type.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, hold on, hold on, Glenn Powell wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, I think he wanted to be portrayed the

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<v Speaker 2>smart ass guy who's whooping ass while he's doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's got all these sassy one liners and he's

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<v Speaker 2>a goofball. But he's also, you know, just like an

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<v Speaker 1>So the difference to me and that is a case

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<v Speaker 1>of motivation. The motivation for John McClain runs wrong time

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a cop. Yeah, what else is he going

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the differing factor here with how Glenn

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<v Speaker 2>There is a roar shark test where he's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>see fluffy bunnies, Like I just felt John McCain oozing

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, so that's what I'm saying, Like, like, and

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<v Speaker 1>and he almost portrayed a cartoonish level of anger in

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<v Speaker 1>the first thirty minutes in this movie, maybe first forty minutes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, boy, do they want us to like

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<v Speaker 2>Let me present this to you through a different light though,

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<v Speaker 2>because I noticed that as well, and I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>I think, have a much more gritty and realistic portrayal

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<v Speaker 2>of what it is to live paycheck to paycheck, to

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<v Speaker 1>This, but he also has these massive he gets keeps

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<v Speaker 2>But insubordination is you know, it's not what we think

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, that's true. But even his wife or his

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<v Speaker 1>wife or girlfriend, I'm not sure she kind of was

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<v Speaker 1>in a portion of the movie, I don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>he throughout this whole movie, but it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy on the rock wall. Yeah. Absolutely, so, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there there, there is that those redeeming qualities, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think I brought up parasite in the last episode

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<v Speaker 2>of this show, but that's so that's the whole point

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<v Speaker 2>in that movie. They say the wealthy family is nice

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<v Speaker 2>because they can afford to be nice. The people who

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<v Speaker 2>of Jordan Peele's movie US as well. There's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>worse version of you because he didn't or she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the same kind of upbringing that you were fortunate

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<v Speaker 2>enough to have here. I absolutely loved it, and for

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<v Speaker 2>what I compared it to, and I'm sure you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen it, but there's a movie called It Follows. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a scary movie where there's a bean that can look

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<v Speaker 2>like anybody that's following you all the time, and the

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<v Speaker 2>have sex with somebody and then it's following them. It's

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<v Speaker 2>people before you ended up dying. Everyone loved that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it completely underwhelmed. I think they missed an

421
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<v Speaker 2>awesome premise that really could have been fun to have

422
00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:02.880
<v Speaker 2>fun with this movie, I think executed. It follows premise

423
00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:05.359
<v Speaker 2>because you don't know who to trust. You don't know

424
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<v Speaker 2>The first person he meets entering the game is a

425
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<v Speaker 2>guy in the cab, and you're like, is he yeah

426
00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:11.960
<v Speaker 2>calling on him right now? Is he actually his friend?

427
00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:14.440
<v Speaker 2>And you have that feeling. Eventually they kind of draw

428
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<v Speaker 2>the lines in the sand. These are the people that

429
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<v Speaker 2>you can trust, these are the people that you really can't.

430
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<v Speaker 2>And there's not really many surprises in that way. But

431
00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:23.319
<v Speaker 2>the first couple days of that contest, I was like this.

432
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<v Speaker 2>I was on the edge of my seat. I thought

433
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<v Speaker 2>I was blest I loved it.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did too, because it's it's interesting to see

435
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<v Speaker 1>where you start and how how you would go. But like, okay,

436
00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.799
<v Speaker 1>at Clean Slate, Fresh Slate, all three of these contestants,

437
00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:37.079
<v Speaker 1>what do they do? How do they handle this?

438
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<v Speaker 2>What did you think of the wife and the call

439
00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:43.000
<v Speaker 2>right when she finds out that he's doing the contest?

440
00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:45.960
<v Speaker 2>It was very stand offish, Like was that to like that? No?

441
00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it was standing I thought it was

442
00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:50.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna be much worse. I was a little surprised when

443
00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:53.079
<v Speaker 1>she asked him, what did you do? She already knew

444
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<v Speaker 1>what he did, right.

445
00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And then she's just like, I gotta take the

446
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<v Speaker 2>kid to the hospital.

447
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<v Speaker 1>And there was no like, there was no I thought

448
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<v Speaker 1>she would be livid, yeah, and be yelling at him

449
00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:06.200
<v Speaker 1>or crying, and she's just I think she was just

450
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<v Speaker 1>resigned to her fate. And maybe this is because they

451
00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:10.960
<v Speaker 1>live in poverty and this is you know, they're used

452
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<v Speaker 1>to having bad things happen. She was just like, okay,

453
00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and there's nothing that she could do about it.

454
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<v Speaker 2>So and can I say she's the wife is played

455
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<v Speaker 2>by Jamie Lawson. She was in Sinners and apparently she

456
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<v Speaker 2>was in The Batman.

457
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<v Speaker 1>Who is she in Sinners?

458
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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the characters well enough, But I know

459
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<v Speaker 2>that I recognized that because I just recently saw that.

460
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<v Speaker 1>That's the only reason.

461
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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know that I have a firm grasp

462
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<v Speaker 2>on the first ten minutes of The Pluck. She's the

463
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<v Speaker 2>most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my life. Oh,

464
00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:39.079
<v Speaker 2>I thought she was distractedly attractive.

465
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did not get that.

466
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not that person, Like I'm not that guy

467
00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:44.960
<v Speaker 2>that watches the movies like that. But I'm sitting there, like,

468
00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:48.480
<v Speaker 2>this woman is stunning in this movie, and I can't literally,

469
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not listening to what people are saying. And I

470
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<v Speaker 2>noticed that if I had a note Pat, I would

471
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<v Speaker 2>be like, make sure you highlight that that woman is

472
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<v Speaker 2>distractingly attractive. Yeah, for the first couple of minutes, but

473
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<v Speaker 2>I thought she does the role very well. Not in

474
00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:02.920
<v Speaker 2>it for very long, but for the part she's in it, it, Uh,

475
00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:06.400
<v Speaker 2>let's just say it felt very relatable, probably to a

476
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<v Speaker 2>lot of people.

477
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<v Speaker 1>The advice that Josh Brolan gave Glenn Powell was to

478
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<v Speaker 1>hang amongst his own kind for the first few days

479
00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:18.079
<v Speaker 1>of the contest to make it last longer. William H.

480
00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Macy's like, that's the worst thing you can do, because

481
00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:22.640
<v Speaker 1>these people are going to turn you in as soon

482
00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:26.000
<v Speaker 1>as possible. And so what does he do? Hob knobs

483
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<v Speaker 1>with the rich, right, And how much money did they

484
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<v Speaker 1>get to start?

485
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<v Speaker 2>I think a thousand new dollars.

486
00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so a thousand. I don't know how far that

487
00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:33.599
<v Speaker 1>goes on.

488
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<v Speaker 2>It seems like a lot, because five hundred was enough

489
00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:39.319
<v Speaker 2>to solve all of the medical problems for the dogs.

490
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<v Speaker 1>That's true. So and and you also had a really

491
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<v Speaker 1>nice hotel that he afforded with with you know, in

492
00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:51.319
<v Speaker 1>part of that thousand dollars. Okay. So the other thing

493
00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:55.079
<v Speaker 1>that Brolan said to Glenn Powell when he was trying

494
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<v Speaker 1>to convince him to do The Running Man, which Powell

495
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<v Speaker 1>did not want to do, is I say that to

496
00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:02.839
<v Speaker 1>all the contestants on The Running Man, but this is

497
00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:04.759
<v Speaker 1>the first time, I mean it, you could actually beat

498
00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:08.000
<v Speaker 1>this thing. Yeah. Do you think that was a ruse? Yeah?

499
00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Do you honestly believe that Brolan's character believed that Powell

500
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<v Speaker 1>said this or does he say that to literally everybody?

501
00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:20.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I say this to everybody, but you're the

502
00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:21.200
<v Speaker 1>one who could win this game.

503
00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, well, we know the game is essentially

504
00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:26.319
<v Speaker 2>unwinnable in a lot of ways.

505
00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:28.359
<v Speaker 1>And so that's what Michael Sarah's character said.

506
00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:31.240
<v Speaker 2>It's as doable as they want you to believe that

507
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<v Speaker 2>it is.

508
00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you And I can't remember the actor's name, but

509
00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the big bro who the family took him in, he

510
00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:42.240
<v Speaker 1>hosts this sort of conspiracy theorist reel behind the scenes

511
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<v Speaker 1>of The Running Man or whatever. Did you glean much

512
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<v Speaker 1>out of that you know, as far as like how

513
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<v Speaker 1>they fix it or maybe I just it was lost

514
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<v Speaker 1>on me.

515
00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:51.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it was more so that there were just

516
00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:55.920
<v Speaker 2>certain archtypes in each set of there, and what's funny

517
00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:57.839
<v Speaker 2>is one of them was the angry one, but he

518
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the angry one, despite very clear being angry.

519
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:01.720
<v Speaker 1>He was the final guy.

520
00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:03.240
<v Speaker 2>He was the final guy, and I was like, well,

521
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.200
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of a redundant flot thread there, but no

522
00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:09.400
<v Speaker 2>outside of that, I think that was just to set

523
00:23:09.480 --> 00:23:12.359
<v Speaker 2>up the fact that he kind of was in on

524
00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.799
<v Speaker 2>the game. If you ever saw the second Purge movie,

525
00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:18.279
<v Speaker 2>the dude that played Omar in the wire and blanking

526
00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:18.599
<v Speaker 2>on his.

527
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<v Speaker 1>Own, oh, Michael Michael Michael K. Williams, Yeah, that is okay.

528
00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:25.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he plays like essentially a guy that has a

529
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<v Speaker 2>thorough understanding of how the Purge works, how it's rigged,

530
00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:31.839
<v Speaker 2>and how it's used against society. That's essentially the rule

531
00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:33.440
<v Speaker 2>that this guy fit here. And I thought they did

532
00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:35.519
<v Speaker 2>an excellent job of incorporating him in there, and I

533
00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:37.519
<v Speaker 2>won't say how, but they work him back in later

534
00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:38.799
<v Speaker 2>in a way that's very fun.

535
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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about pictures the end, Yeah, yeah, what about

536
00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:48.799
<v Speaker 1>this could be a spoiler. What about Michael Sarah's decision yeah,

537
00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>which which obviously was a catalyst for a big action

538
00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:55.640
<v Speaker 1>sequence of the movie. Yeah, why did he do what

539
00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>he did?

540
00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.480
<v Speaker 2>So, I'll be real with you, that is who I

541
00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:01.039
<v Speaker 2>related to the most, Michael Sarah.

542
00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I can see that. Yeah, because you're not angry

543
00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>enough to be Pat Richards. And I'll be real with you. Uh.

544
00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:13.680
<v Speaker 2>There's a common refrain that I say on Outside the

545
00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Box when I'm talking about myself, because I'm a debt

546
00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:17.240
<v Speaker 2>free guy that owns a home, And I said, the

547
00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:19.480
<v Speaker 2>system is designed for me to tell you I'm better

548
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:21.599
<v Speaker 2>than you. I'm smarter than you, I work harder than you.

549
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:23.920
<v Speaker 2>And if you were just more like me, you could

550
00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.279
<v Speaker 2>live this kind of life too, to the people that don't.

551
00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Necessarily have that.

552
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:29.160
<v Speaker 2>And Michael Sarah has a line in that movie where

553
00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:31.200
<v Speaker 2>he says, a good person with a conscience is the

554
00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:32.519
<v Speaker 2>system's worst nightmare.

555
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>A good person with a yeah, And like you know.

556
00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:39.480
<v Speaker 2>A person with a conscience is the system's worst nightmare.

557
00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:42.119
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sitting there, I'm like, Yeah, this fucking guy.

558
00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:44.599
<v Speaker 2>And I think I think he knew he was dead

559
00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:47.680
<v Speaker 2>to rights the second he walked in that house. I

560
00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:50.400
<v Speaker 2>think he knew what he was getting into, and sure enough,

561
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:52.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, we know where it ends up going in

562
00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the long run there. I think he caught him in

563
00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:56.640
<v Speaker 2>because he saw an opportunity to take his pound of

564
00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:58.799
<v Speaker 2>flesh on the way out the door, and he absolutely

565
00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:01.119
<v Speaker 2>and hit the best Kevin McCay alister way you could

566
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:04.480
<v Speaker 2>possibly imagine gets it all to happen there. I loved

567
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:07.559
<v Speaker 2>his role in that movie, obviously, the connection coming from

568
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Scott Pilgrim versus the world. Edgar Wright and Michael Sarah

569
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:13.319
<v Speaker 2>have a working relationship. I thought he did the role well.

570
00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen him in a movie in the minute here,

571
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:17.440
<v Speaker 2>and I thought he did well. Fent a little bit

572
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:20.359
<v Speaker 2>and I think it fit perfectly with him, and I

573
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:23.640
<v Speaker 2>loved what his character was. And it did bother me

574
00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:25.519
<v Speaker 2>that he pushed the button, but at the same time,

575
00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:27.200
<v Speaker 2>you keep the plot roll and I can tell it

576
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of got your goat a little bit though when

577
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:29.559
<v Speaker 2>he pushed it.

578
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand it. Yeah, I didn't understand. I didn't

579
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 1>understand what was going on, and he.

580
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Acted like he just came to the realization that would

581
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>bring them there, as if like that wasn't common knowledge,

582
00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:42.160
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. But at the same time,

583
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I loved it. I loved the way

584
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 2>that they decided to get them in there.

585
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, Michael Sarah the Phoenician Scheme the latest Wes

586
00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Anderson movie.

587
00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you never saw it, but okay, I do remember

588
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:57.039
<v Speaker 2>that now that you mentioned it.

589
00:25:57.079 --> 00:25:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing him in the trailers. He also played

590
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:03.559
<v Speaker 1>the role of Alan in Barbie. Really, yeah, he was

591
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:05.759
<v Speaker 1>in Barbie. I do remember that too, Okay, I forgot

592
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:09.119
<v Speaker 1>and then and then honestly, the the only other movie

593
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that he's done in the last seven years that I recognize. Here,

594
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:14.559
<v Speaker 1>did you see Sacramento with Kristen Stewart or no, okay

595
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 1>me either. Molly's Game. He was player action in Molly's Game?

596
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh really? Yeah? Yeah, he was the guy that was

597
00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>sort of the way that it was described. It was

598
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.599
<v Speaker 1>a combination of did you ever see Molly's Game? By

599
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the way, he was His character is based on mostly

600
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Toby McGuire, but some Leonardo DiCaprio rolled in there as well,

601
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>And so that's Toby maguire. I get. I get the

602
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 1>feeling he is a total a hole. Yeah, like you,

603
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>just like the way that the portrayed him in this movie.

604
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Everything he did, like, it's interesting. I get the feeling

605
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:47.039
<v Speaker 1>he's not a good guy. Did you feel like and

606
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.119
<v Speaker 1>and we'll get into more like Coleman Domingo, I thought

607
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>was was cool in this He was. He was a

608
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:52.599
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. I'll tell you.

609
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>He is taking the role of Richard Dawson from the

610
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:58.480
<v Speaker 2>original Who. Richard Dawson is a premier game show host.

611
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.359
<v Speaker 2>It was a very fun give to have him doing

612
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:05.160
<v Speaker 2>this over the top, campy, I'm celebrating your death kind

613
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>of guy when he's gonna go do family feud in

614
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>a couple hours after he wraps up. I loved his

615
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:12.880
<v Speaker 2>portrayal in that movie. He's a perfect kind of camp

616
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I don't know how he's gonna

617
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 2>be able to do it. And I thought he crushed it.

618
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:17.359
<v Speaker 2>I thought he absolutely killed it.

619
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>He is one of these guys that just the screen

620
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:20.599
<v Speaker 1>is not big enough for him.

621
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, And I say all the time about what

622
00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:26.799
<v Speaker 2>we do, we're very fortunate to have the jobs we have.

623
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I always say, people can talk about stuff just fine.

624
00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>And he is one of those people that lose this

625
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:35.799
<v Speaker 2>track of you're not the show like anybody could realistically go.

626
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:38.319
<v Speaker 2>He has a knack for it. It's he's definitely not

627
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:40.720
<v Speaker 2>bad at it, but he acts like he's the end

628
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:42.880
<v Speaker 2>all bell. I believe at one point he's even like

629
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 2>there's a line to the effect of don't pinch or

630
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.160
<v Speaker 2>pinch yourself. You really are talking to me right now.

631
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<v Speaker 2>Here's something to that effect when you first meet him.

632
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:56.279
<v Speaker 1>And complaining about Bluefin and his sushi or whatever. Right now,

633
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be that guy. Where was it weird for

634
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 1>you to see not a whole lot of female actors

635
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>in this movie? I mean there were some, but they

636
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.799
<v Speaker 1>played such small roles. No, I agree, and it did.

637
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.960
<v Speaker 2>What's funny is is it sticks out in twenty twenty

638
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<v Speaker 2>five to me. I mean, hell, when I watch the

639
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:17.920
<v Speaker 2>original Avengers now, it's kind of strange, uh, comparatively.

640
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:19.680
<v Speaker 1>To like one. At least Scarlett Johnsen had like a

641
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

642
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but it's six white people, Nick Ferry, you

643
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:25.279
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Like it just it really stands

644
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.200
<v Speaker 2>out when you're watching this stuff now. And I don't

645
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 2>want to be that guy either, But after so many

646
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>years of seeing it actually look a little more diverse

647
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:35.200
<v Speaker 2>with different types of people in different roles. It now

648
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 2>does stand out. And I'll be real, the messaging of

649
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>this movie's pretty woke, like like, yeah, they're subtle. They're

650
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.559
<v Speaker 2>subtle about it. There's a there's an all goons are bad,

651
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>uh graffiti in the one scene. There's like those little moments,

652
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>and it is shocking to me to see it for

653
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:52.279
<v Speaker 2>trade that way. I didn't hate it. I don't think

654
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 2>it took away.

655
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>No.

656
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I think the women that were in it were strong

657
00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>female characters. But it did stick out to me that, uh.

658
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:03.759
<v Speaker 1>It was just weird, you know, to me that And

659
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>again I think that you're right. In twenty fifteen or

660
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty ten, I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't even notice it, right,

661
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 1>But I'm watching this, I'm like, God, there's not a

662
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of women in this moment. Yeah, just kind of weird.

663
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it doesn't. I'm not saying it has to,

664
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:18.279
<v Speaker 2>although although.

665
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I will say the one woman a contestant, she was

666
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>portrayed as gay, right, lesbian?

667
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm pretty sure Katie m O'Brien, and she was

668
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>allegedly the angry one right because the other guy was

669
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.519
<v Speaker 2>the fodder or whatever the hell is The first guy.

670
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the hopeless guy. This guy, yeah, which was Martin

671
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Hurley from SNLS Please Don't Destroy Fame?

672
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he was great, like he Oh and the

673
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:44.799
<v Speaker 2>way he gets got is perfect.

674
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, like, what do you do you go

675
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:48.599
<v Speaker 1>through all that to get on The Running.

676
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Man twenty four hours in? Like it's not even, It's

677
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:54.960
<v Speaker 2>not even. It's like Luigi Mangioni taking the mask off

678
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.119
<v Speaker 2>while he's talking to the girl at the coffee shop. Yeah,

679
00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 2>like it's really not that far if you think about it,

680
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:05.480
<v Speaker 2>what he decided to do the literally asking people about

681
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 2>The Running Man?

682
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Edgar Wright directed this? Yeah, did this feel like? Did

683
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you when you got done? If and you didn't know

684
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>who directed it? If I told you Edgar Wright was one, Like,

685
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<v Speaker 1>let's say I gave you multiple choices, Yeah, and Edgar

686
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<v Speaker 1>Wright was one of the choices. Would you have said

687
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 1>that Edgar Wright would have been your choice? Like, oh, yeah,

688
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I could tell it that he directed this.

689
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>There was one scene when he's hanging off of building

690
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.279
<v Speaker 2>and there's letters on the building and he's hanging off

691
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.319
<v Speaker 2>of the why and he pulls it and it starts

692
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:37.319
<v Speaker 2>to fall and he goes why Why?

693
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.279
<v Speaker 1>That was some shawna the Dead stuff, right.

694
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.079
<v Speaker 2>That was Edgar Wright, and I swear to god that

695
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 2>was the only moment in two hours and thirteen minutes,

696
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:48.519
<v Speaker 2>you know.

697
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny. It's like, I uh, I always

698
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 1>think of Shawn of the Dead and I think this

699
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:56.319
<v Speaker 1>is one of the best. I don't know why. I mean,

700
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not one of the best lines ever, but it

701
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 1>just gets me every time. When they're in the Winchester

702
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Bar and the zombies are like coming in and one

703
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 1>of them, something happens in the jukebox starts and it

704
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>starts playing Don't Stop Me Now by Queen Yeah, and

705
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>so then and so, like you have this great fight

706
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>scene set to that song, which is a great song,

707
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>and then.

708
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Uh, very underrated Queen song.

709
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very underrated. Yeah, and then uh. In fact, I

710
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 1>was just watching an SNL rerun and it was a

711
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>cold open from a few years ago, I think during

712
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Trump's first presidency where they had they they had a

713
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>whole song and dance with all the Trump and and

714
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Milania and everybody's singing don't stop Me, don't stop him now, yeah,

715
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>because he's having a good time anyway. But then Simon

716
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Peg says he says the Nick Frost character's like kill

717
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:52.559
<v Speaker 1>the queen, you know. So when he said the lock thing,

718
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh god, it's the first thing I thought of.

719
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, but like Baby Driver is underrated,

720
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 2>it's a cult classic in my opinion, and I enjoyed

721
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.319
<v Speaker 2>that movie quite a bit. Solid cast, awesome premise, and

722
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 2>like the entire movie is set to uh soundtrack right,

723
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Like everything.

724
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Is happening is deaf right?

725
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, and the whole thing, Like if you go

726
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>and watch it like I you might not even notice it.

727
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:19.960
<v Speaker 2>The entire movie is musical. Everything gunshots are to the beat,

728
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>car doors or to the beat. The entire movie is

729
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>set to the tone of a beat. And it's wild

730
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>how well they do it. And it's that kind of creative.

731
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>And as I mentioned, like low Ki, I don't know

732
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>if it's in my top ten, but if it isn't

733
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.599
<v Speaker 2>it is just on the cusp. I love Scott Pilgrim

734
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:36.160
<v Speaker 2>versus the word.

735
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I love that movie.

736
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>The World's End I think is better than This is

737
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the End, which got way more uh uh success commercially

738
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>with James Franco study exactly. But I think the World's

739
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>End was smarter and more fun in terms of the

740
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>actual movie, and it's a similar type of flick there.

741
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I hold Edgar Wright in high regard and this did

742
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 2>at times, I don't want to say out like generic

743
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>action flick because I'm telling you, guys, and I said

744
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 2>to you off the air, I don't know if it's

745
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>got the endorphins because I went straight from the gym

746
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 2>to the movies. But I was smiling and into the movie.

747
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>For two straight hours, right.

748
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>But like, it didn't feel like Edgar Wright, but it

749
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 2>definitely felt good.

750
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it did, and I totally totally agreed, did

751
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>not feel like a like a classic Edgar Wright film,

752
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>but I loved it. I just I couldn't wait to

753
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:26.599
<v Speaker 1>see what was going to happen next, you know, the

754
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>whole movie now. I said, I was going to tell

755
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.839
<v Speaker 1>you a story yes on the air the other day,

756
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and we didn't get a chance to. Glenn Powell hosted

757
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:40.079
<v Speaker 1>SNL this past week Pight weekend to promote Running Man,

758
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>what have You? And I don't want to turn this

759
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.359
<v Speaker 1>into a whole thing here, but there's a lot of setup.

760
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>He found out like four or five years ago he

761
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 1>was gonna he had to call the host SNL and

762
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>he was he loved it. He was hanging out with

763
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 1>his family on their front porch and a UPS driver

764
00:33:56.119 --> 00:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>came up to deliver a package in Texas was where

765
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 1>he lives, and and he's like, oh, what's going on?

766
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:06.599
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh, I'm get to host SNL whatever

767
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.800
<v Speaker 1>it was a few months or not a few months,

768
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:11.159
<v Speaker 1>few weeks from now, and he's like, oh, that's great.

769
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 1>And they took a selfie with the UPS driver, you know,

770
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 1>like to commemorate the occasion. Well, then COVID hit and

771
00:34:18.599 --> 00:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Top Gun two got delayed and Lorne Michaels called Glen

772
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Powell or Glen Powell's representation and they said, like, no

773
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.599
<v Speaker 1>offense without Top Gun, Maverick, nobody's going to know who

774
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.639
<v Speaker 1>you are. Sure, so they canceled it. Yeah, couldn't be on.

775
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 1>So then he gets to call the host SNL again. Okay,

776
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 1>who are you? That's what I would say, and yeah.

777
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>So so he happily agrees because this is to help

778
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 1>promote his movie. And so he tells his family about it,

779
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:48.199
<v Speaker 1>and his sisters were like, we got to find this

780
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>UPS guy to tell him to tell him the news.

781
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>And I guess they're pretty like, what do you call it? Intrepid?

782
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:57.559
<v Speaker 1>Like they they will get you know, they're they're very

783
00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>good at getting things done. Sure, contact UPS. They find

784
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>this UPS driver who's still a UPS driver, and they

785
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 1>tell you, they tell him, they tell him about this

786
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, oh, that's awesome that he gets the

787
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.119
<v Speaker 1>host again or whatever. He's like, no, no, no, Glenn

788
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:16.159
<v Speaker 1>wants to fly you to be in the audience at SNL.

789
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 1>So he brings so Glenn tells the whole story and

790
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 1>then they already saw the selfie. And then you see

791
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:24.039
<v Speaker 1>this guy this his name is Mitch, big bearded, red

792
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:26.360
<v Speaker 1>beard guy, and he's sitting in the front row and

793
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>every he's like, bitch, yeah, this is great. And then

794
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:32.360
<v Speaker 1>he brings up up on stage and takes a selfie

795
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:34.559
<v Speaker 1>with him to day another selfie, which I thought was

796
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>very cool. Now he said he flew Mitch to SNL

797
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to New York coach because he's like and he said

798
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.119
<v Speaker 1>this he I just don't know how well Running Man

799
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 1>is going to do yet. I have not looked at

800
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the rotten tomatoes. I have not looked at the box

801
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 1>office numbers for this at all. Do you think it's

802
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>going to do well.

803
00:35:57.079 --> 00:35:59.360
<v Speaker 2>So I you see the box office. I did see

804
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the box Office before I even went. Yeah, I do

805
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 2>love it, okay did audience tone of voice, Yes, it's

806
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.559
<v Speaker 2>not good. It's the numbers were not good. I'm assuming

807
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I haven't looked up reviews. Now you three me definitely

808
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:16.519
<v Speaker 2>out played uh that that was the box office King

809
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 2>When I went to the app that I used to

810
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 2>book my tickets, Yeah, there were easy three times as

811
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 2>many theaters, which now you see me to.

812
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Me is kind of bizarre because the last now you

813
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.039
<v Speaker 1>see me when we came out like like eight years

814
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>ago or.

815
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 2>So, sure you know, but Zombie Land two, there's something

816
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.519
<v Speaker 2>about that Eisenberg Woody Harrelson connection that these movies there

817
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.400
<v Speaker 2>were ten years in between Zombieland and Zombie That that's true,

818
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.559
<v Speaker 2>and it absolutely and who hasn't seen Zombies Done to death?

819
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 2>At this point, Zombieland two shows up and they're selling

820
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:52.079
<v Speaker 2>out tickets everywhere. But I'm getting the exact numbers on

821
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Running Man box Office right now, and.

822
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Then I'd like to get into the popcornimeter too, because

823
00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I still have not looked.

824
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Twenty eight million globe. I know, what was the budget

825
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 2>for this movie. Ah, that's a good question. But see

826
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.039
<v Speaker 2>you say that about now You See Me three. There's

827
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.079
<v Speaker 2>no contingency of running even as someone who enjoyed the

828
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:14.159
<v Speaker 2>first Running Man. It's not like I'm like, oh, we

829
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 2>need another one. If we weren't doing this podcast, I

830
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know that I would have taken I would have

831
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>seen it. I obviously see I was gonna say, but

832
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:23.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I would have taken the time

833
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>to go see it in theaters, and I might have

834
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 2>just waited. And again, that would have been more out

835
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:29.800
<v Speaker 2>of deference to Edgar Wright than out of any excitement

836
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 2>about actually seeing Glenn power this movie at all. Let's

837
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 2>see what we got here.

838
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 1>It should be.

839
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Why are you giving me the nineteen eighty seven? Oh

840
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:43.199
<v Speaker 2>thirty two million? Oh no, that's the yeah budget, it

841
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.880
<v Speaker 2>says Running Man slash budget. One of them says thirty

842
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:47.679
<v Speaker 2>two million, one of them says twenty seven.

843
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 1>For this, I'd never go.

844
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Budget one hundred and ten million. Yeah, box office twenty

845
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.960
<v Speaker 2>eight point seven million. That's a shame, because it really is.

846
00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:59.800
<v Speaker 2>It's solid. But again this see now I'm gonna soapbucks.

847
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.960
<v Speaker 2>This is why we get so many remakes and sequels

848
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and superhero things, and everyone complains, why don't we get

849
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.199
<v Speaker 2>new stuff? Not to say this is new, this is

850
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 2>a remake, but you would never confuse this movie for

851
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:14.679
<v Speaker 2>the original other than the general premise of the film.

852
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Isn't there isn't there something to be said for that, Like, Okay,

853
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 1>for the longest time, Hollywood studios would only make stuff

854
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:26.679
<v Speaker 1>that was proven, proven, you know, assets, And now you

855
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>have Running Man, which I mean, I don't remember how

856
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:33.079
<v Speaker 1>successful it was in eighty seven. No, I mean obviously

857
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.599
<v Speaker 1>it lived on and I wouldn't say it's it's gotten

858
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 1>a cult level. But but now you see this movie

859
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>being made and you're like and you're like, oh, another remake,

860
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>another reboot, another redo, and it didn't do well. Maybe

861
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:52.599
<v Speaker 1>this is this is the signal that to to studios, directors, screenwriters,

862
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>we need fresh stuff. We're not interested in all the

863
00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you know and Marvel. You know, it all comes back

864
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.239
<v Speaker 1>to Marvel there coming out with a lot of the stuff,

865
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:03.559
<v Speaker 1>and there's Marvel fatigue going on there. Yeah, well and

866
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>there has been for like the last six or seven years.

867
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:07.639
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I mean, maybe this is a

868
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:11.079
<v Speaker 1>message that we will get more creative original stuff going forward.

869
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:13.800
<v Speaker 2>See, I watched an interview with Matt Damon and he

870
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:16.760
<v Speaker 2>was talking about this movie called Candlelabra and I can't

871
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.280
<v Speaker 2>behind the Candle Opera. Yeah, okay, so you've seen this.

872
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 2>This is I don't know if it was a movie.

873
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it was a mini series. It was him

874
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.199
<v Speaker 2>and Michael Douglas and it was the Oh god, he

875
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 2>was from Milwaukee. Why can't I the gay pianist Liberaci. Oh,

876
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:31.639
<v Speaker 2>it was all about Liberaci.

877
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And so Michael Douglas played Liberacci and Matt Damon

878
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>was sort of like his lover. I guess, but I

879
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>think it was a mini series on HBO.

880
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:42.559
<v Speaker 2>So that's actually some good backstory then, because he wanted it,

881
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 2>he being Matt Damon, he wanted it to be a movie,

882
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and he asked, why wasn't it made into a movie?

883
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:50.639
<v Speaker 2>He says, okay, Well, let's break this down. Based on

884
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.719
<v Speaker 2>production costs, marketing costs, the cost for the cast, and

885
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:56.000
<v Speaker 2>all these other things. You're looking at between one hundred

886
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 2>and twenty five and one hundred and fifty million dollars

887
00:39:58.079 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 2>when you go out the door. Because when you see

888
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.159
<v Speaker 2>the budget, that doesn't even include marketing. The budget is

889
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 2>just literally what it's what costs to make a movie.

890
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.519
<v Speaker 2>There's a whole marvel bringing back to that. Oftentimes has

891
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:09.679
<v Speaker 2>one hundred million dollar budget on top of their two

892
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty million dollar budget.

893
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Right.

894
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.280
<v Speaker 2>So, uh, you look at Running Man nineteen eighty seven,

895
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:17.639
<v Speaker 2>The entire budget to make the movie was twenty seven

896
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:21.039
<v Speaker 2>million dollars. It ended up making thirty eight point one worldwide.

897
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Here's the kicker. That's partial movie theater ticket sales, but

898
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.280
<v Speaker 2>that's also VHS sales. That's also did you go back

899
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 2>and buy it on Blu ray later? There was a

900
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 2>whole second box office, And Matt Damon kind of lays

901
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.159
<v Speaker 2>it out there. He says, there was your original box office,

902
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.159
<v Speaker 2>then you had a second spite at the Apple to

903
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 2>try and recoup all your losses. He says, in this

904
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 2>day and age, trying to sell Candelabras, a movie taking

905
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.119
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty million dollar risk on a love

906
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.760
<v Speaker 2>story that nobody really knows much about. Hell, I knew

907
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:49.320
<v Speaker 2>the name of the movie, had no idea what it

908
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 2>was about, didn't even know they actually made it. I

909
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 2>thought it was a hypothetical that goes to show you

910
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:56.679
<v Speaker 2>right there. He says, these big execs are no longer

911
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>willing to take those chances because you're losing out on

912
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.320
<v Speaker 2>that second half. Not to mention, granted, time goes slower

913
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:06.519
<v Speaker 2>when you're a child, so maybe I might exaggerate.

914
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:06.639
<v Speaker 1>This a little bit.

915
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.760
<v Speaker 2>It felt like I remember seeing Toy Story in theaters,

916
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:11.440
<v Speaker 2>and it felt like Toy Story was in theaters for

917
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:14.519
<v Speaker 2>a year really before it was available to buy on VHS,

918
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 2>because I wanted to own it so bad, and it

919
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:21.000
<v Speaker 2>felt like it stayed in theaters forever. And now there's

920
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 2>times I wanted to see the I Know what You

921
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Did last summer remake that sucked. It's on Netflix now,

922
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.039
<v Speaker 2>and in ten days it was out of theaters, like

923
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>like in the time it came and went, it was

924
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.559
<v Speaker 2>like bing bang, we made whatever a couple million we

925
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:34.320
<v Speaker 2>were gonna make, and we're calling it a day. And

926
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling in two weeks, Running Man is

927
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 2>not going to be in theaters.

928
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:37.880
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

929
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.239
<v Speaker 2>If you're not listening to this this week or next week,

930
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:41.559
<v Speaker 2>you probably missed your chance.

931
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, and especially consider like I

932
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 1>think you mentioned this earlier. Now you three me had

933
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:52.800
<v Speaker 1>like three times the amount of theaters yes or screens

934
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>then Running Man yes, which.

935
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Which lends itself to more tickets. And I mean, I'd

936
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.360
<v Speaker 2>argue I might have been the youngest person in my theater.

937
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Granted I go.

938
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.400
<v Speaker 2>It was three pm on a Tuesday, so it's not like,

939
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:05.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, people got jobs.

940
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of blue hairs in there.

941
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you could tell because there's definitely a working

942
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:13.599
<v Speaker 2>class bent to this show, like like you were stronger

943
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 2>together than we are, you know, fighting with one another,

944
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 2>which is always going to sell me on it. There

945
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 2>was a palpable tension, like I think, I feel like

946
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.320
<v Speaker 2>some people were a little off put by what was

947
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 2>taking place in the movie and other people were like

948
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I was really into that. And it was interesting because

949
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.119
<v Speaker 2>like I was listening to people as I was walking out,

950
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and you could tell there was a there were some

951
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.719
<v Speaker 2>people that were like a little overwhelmed. There was the

952
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 2>silence was deafening when when the movie first ended, and

953
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.599
<v Speaker 2>like the credits hit you like a ton of bricks.

954
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:43.039
<v Speaker 2>There's music play and it's a fun animated thing at

955
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.199
<v Speaker 2>the end there or you're not animated, you know what

956
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like graphics put together and you could feel

957
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:51.400
<v Speaker 2>that there was that like, I don't know how I

958
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.000
<v Speaker 2>feel about what I just saw, but they were all

959
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:54.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot older, and I don't know if they got

960
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:56.760
<v Speaker 2>exactly what they were expecting or not.

961
00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:58.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they did. I don't think I I.

962
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's was to lead me into because I think

963
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 1>I talked about everything I wanted to talk about except

964
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 1>for the ending. What did you make of it? Is

965
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:14.039
<v Speaker 1>it as nebulous as that? Maybe there's a lot of

966
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:18.199
<v Speaker 1>different See this is where I don't like to spoil stuff.

967
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I think. I think the ending mostly does not lend

968
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>itself to interpretation. Mostly, yeah, I don't think it does.

969
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:31.639
<v Speaker 1>But there are there are some questions that I have

970
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>one specific question, and this goes back to the Alfred

971
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Hitchcock mcguffin thing, where in Psycho this briefcase full of

972
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>money sure is talked about at the start of it

973
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.599
<v Speaker 1>and never really talked about it until the end, or

974
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 1>not even at the end, and you're like, well, somebody

975
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.639
<v Speaker 1>asked him like, well what about the money? What happened

976
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 1>to the money? And Hitchcock and I can't remember how

977
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>it got the name mcguffin, but this is how it's

978
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 1>being referred to. It's the mcguffin. It's something that is

979
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 1>in the movie, something as part of the plot, but

980
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:08.239
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really mean anything the ultimately it's not it's

981
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 1>not a part of the end of the movie. It

982
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to resolve itself. In other words, the new money,

983
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the billion dollars and new money? How's he get it?

984
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Did he get it? Did he get it right? I mean,

985
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Did he survive the ending? Do we

986
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>know what we saw in front of our eyes? Given

987
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:36.159
<v Speaker 1>all the weird dream sequences the end of inception? Right? Sure?

988
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Did that really happen? Did it not happen? So? So

989
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I think mostly if we look at this for what

990
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:44.599
<v Speaker 1>it's worth, and if we look at what Edgar Wright

991
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:48.679
<v Speaker 1>has done in his career, I think that we can

992
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:51.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of figure out how what we saw we saw what?

993
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like lost what what what happened really happened? Right?

994
00:44:56.599 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 1>But the billion dollars though, see.

995
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:03.840
<v Speaker 2>The only so they were down there, not downloading, They

996
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:07.000
<v Speaker 2>were depositing the money into the account daily. Now did

997
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:08.039
<v Speaker 2>she get the whole billion?

998
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 1>I think me and they were depositing them amount they.

999
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Would show in the bottom left hand corner, like it'd

1000
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.159
<v Speaker 2>be like day twenty four, fifty two thousand dollars, Hunter

1001
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 2>killed one hundred thousand dollars, like they would show you.

1002
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:20.199
<v Speaker 2>And like, I'm pretty sure because what's stuck out to

1003
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 2>me was you see his wife and his daughter and

1004
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 2>they're at like essentially a whole foods, Like they don't

1005
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 2>actually call it a whole food It looks like a

1006
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 2>very nice grocery.

1007
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about towards the end, yeah, yeah, And.

1008
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Based on how they were living at the beginning, they

1009
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.559
<v Speaker 2>weren't shopping at any place that looked like that at

1010
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.679
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the movie. So that right there says

1011
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:42.360
<v Speaker 2>to me, she didn't all of a sudden find money.

1012
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:44.280
<v Speaker 2>So like it says to me, there at least some

1013
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>of the money. And if five hundred dollars got you

1014
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:49.519
<v Speaker 2>what you needed to get done, there were he would

1015
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:51.679
<v Speaker 2>was doing shit that got one hundred thousand dollars. He

1016
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:53.679
<v Speaker 2>was doing stuff for fifty thousand. Whether or not they

1017
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>got the whole billion, I don't know. But like, as

1018
00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:58.599
<v Speaker 2>my brother always jokes with me, if you dropped, just

1019
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:00.559
<v Speaker 2>like he would always joke, and I feel like if

1020
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I could drop sixty grand in your lap, you just

1021
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:04.039
<v Speaker 2>retire and find a way to live off of that,

1022
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.079
<v Speaker 2>and like, you're not wrong, You're not wrong. Have a

1023
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.880
<v Speaker 2>very simple lifestyle. And like if I were expecting a billion, yeah,

1024
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.079
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty thousand be a letdown, but like

1025
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I could make it work.

1026
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.280
<v Speaker 1>So let's phrase it like this, assuming he won the game,

1027
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>which I think we know whether or not that to

1028
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.400
<v Speaker 1>be the case. Let's assume for the sake of this,

1029
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.519
<v Speaker 1>that he won the game. Do you think, and given

1030
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>how this was talked about all film that this was

1031
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a fixed game show, an unwinnable game, do you feel

1032
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:37.159
<v Speaker 1>like that that billion ever was even an scrow like it?

1033
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>They could have even paid it if they wanted to.

1034
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I know, this is the most popular game show on

1035
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>free TV, free TV, free V excuse me, but they've

1036
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 1>never paid it before. And given how what happened at

1037
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the taping of the season premiere of The Running Man, Yeah,

1038
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, I'm not sure if that billion

1039
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:02.960
<v Speaker 1>ever made it to again in a vacuum it seemingly

1040
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:04.880
<v Speaker 1>in theory. I'm not sure it ever made it to

1041
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.519
<v Speaker 1>the Richard's household. Yeah, or doesn't it matter? Maybe it

1042
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:08.360
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't matter.

1043
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm willing to bet because I mean, the game it's

1044
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:12.480
<v Speaker 2>all a metaphor, right, The game is rigged as a

1045
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.280
<v Speaker 2>metaphor for life for life. Yeah, so the life is

1046
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:17.639
<v Speaker 2>rigged is essentially what they're telling you there, and like

1047
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the trajectory of life seems as though that was a

1048
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.119
<v Speaker 2>little less rigged, and I feel like that was kind

1049
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 2>of what they were going for, but I think they

1050
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:27.000
<v Speaker 2>could have paid it. It seemed like one of those

1051
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of corporations, like like you know a lot of

1052
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.400
<v Speaker 2>these future movies always make it look like three companies

1053
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.719
<v Speaker 2>control everything, and let's be real, like right now, we're

1054
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.760
<v Speaker 2>like at eight, so like right around that corner from

1055
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.760
<v Speaker 2>being at three as well, And this seemed like the

1056
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.480
<v Speaker 2>media empire if you weren't on, Like all the game

1057
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 2>shows were funneled through this one company.

1058
00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I just get the feeling that that was the only

1059
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>media company, Like, yeah, all things media was through this, which.

1060
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen these these numbers updated in a while.

1061
00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.159
<v Speaker 2>I can't speak for anything since probably twenty twenty two,

1062
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:04.039
<v Speaker 2>but after Disney bought twentieth century Fox the year the

1063
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.960
<v Speaker 2>first full year that they owned the twentieth century Fox,

1064
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Disney was responsible for sixty eight percent.

1065
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Of the year's box office.

1066
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Wow, so two thirds of the box office generated. Now,

1067
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.119
<v Speaker 2>some of that goes to you know, billions of dollars

1068
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:19.880
<v Speaker 2>coming out of you know, Avengers movies and whatnot, But

1069
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:23.159
<v Speaker 2>by and large it's because any Star Wars movie coming

1070
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.519
<v Speaker 2>out is part of the Disney box office. Any Pixar

1071
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>movie coming out, it's part of the Disney box office.

1072
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.159
<v Speaker 2>DreamWorks come, Papa, you know they're a partner. Now, all

1073
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.719
<v Speaker 2>these different movies that feel You see the Pixar, you

1074
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:36.159
<v Speaker 2>see the DreamWorks, you see the Marvel studios, you see

1075
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 2>the Star Wars. You see it's still twentieth century studios.

1076
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 2>They still put that at the front, but it's Disney.

1077
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Like.

1078
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:43.960
<v Speaker 2>All these things feel different. So the idea that one

1079
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.719
<v Speaker 2>media company is controlling it, I don't feel is that

1080
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:49.760
<v Speaker 2>far off. You could be rare. We are right now,

1081
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't help but reflect on I felt like

1082
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 2>we were watching ow my Balls from.

1083
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh, from my mediocracy.

1084
00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that was the vibe that I got, total

1085
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:03.880
<v Speaker 2>buddiest watching what's happening. I'd like to think I would

1086
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:06.320
<v Speaker 2>have because I'm not a big reality guy, Like I'll

1087
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:07.880
<v Speaker 2>be honest and I don't mean, I don't know if

1088
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:09.239
<v Speaker 2>this was your thing as well, And I don't mean

1089
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.880
<v Speaker 2>to shit talk anyone who likes it. I'm telling you.

1090
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 2>In Pittsburgh right now, the day after the new episode

1091
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 2>of Survivor, no one's talking about Survivor in my group.

1092
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:20.960
<v Speaker 2>You walk around Woodward Studios the day after Survivor and

1093
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like, don't spoil it. I didn't have time to

1094
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:23.719
<v Speaker 2>catch it right now.

1095
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Listen. I watched the first season a Survivor two Richard one.

1096
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:29.159
<v Speaker 1>I remember that, yeah, and then I was kind of like,

1097
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to see this anymore. That's exactly what

1098
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:37.360
<v Speaker 1>my brother and my mother after the episode ends, we'll

1099
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:41.199
<v Speaker 1>have like an hour long phone call my after you

1100
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:44.320
<v Speaker 1>believe that? Yeah, My, After I get done with church

1101
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:47.440
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, I go to the seven thirty service with

1102
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:51.400
<v Speaker 1>my parents, and there's a nine o'clock service of which

1103
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 1>one of my mom's friends goes to. And in between

1104
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.079
<v Speaker 1>after our service ends, before there starts, my mom is

1105
00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.119
<v Speaker 1>always like, oh, Deb's over there. I got to talk

1106
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:02.039
<v Speaker 1>with her about Survivor. She's a bit service, so it's

1107
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:04.639
<v Speaker 1>still pretty prevalent. That's what. But I mean, I have

1108
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.880
<v Speaker 1>no like I am survivor illiterate. There's so many weird

1109
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:11.360
<v Speaker 1>immunity challenges and idols and hidden things and fake things.

1110
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:12.519
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even keep up with it.

1111
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:14.760
<v Speaker 2>So do you think we would have stained or is

1112
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.880
<v Speaker 2>it more like watching sports? Because in my mind, I'm saying,

1113
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:21.039
<v Speaker 2>because I don't like reality TV, I'm not particularly keen

1114
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:22.360
<v Speaker 2>to real world violence.

1115
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 1>There's a number of.

1116
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Things I think I would be beyond the Running Man

1117
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:28.559
<v Speaker 2>in a world where that existed.

1118
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there was no sports talked about on free V.

1119
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if there's sports or not.

1120
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 1>And wouldn't people consider Running Man to be the devolution

1121
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 1>of sports? Yeah? The most dangerous game, right, Maybe that's

1122
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:47.599
<v Speaker 1>what it was. Maybe that was that was live sports.

1123
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, they could be.

1124
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.199
<v Speaker 2>They very well could be. And it's not even There

1125
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:56.760
<v Speaker 2>was mid two thousands movie The Condemned starring Stone Cold

1126
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Steve Austin. They put ten convicts on an island. One

1127
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.000
<v Speaker 2>person can lead. They've they stream it to the society

1128
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:04.599
<v Speaker 2>and the dude gets his goal is more viewers than

1129
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the super Bowl, and he gets it. Yeah, and uh,

1130
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.559
<v Speaker 2>and this felt like a very similar premise here. But

1131
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 2>you're right, there was no reference of football. But this

1132
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.199
<v Speaker 2>just seemed like the kind of world that's rife with

1133
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:17.920
<v Speaker 2>gambling and generously and all these different like and they

1134
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 2>don't go into any of that. I'm absolutely speculating, which

1135
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.239
<v Speaker 2>speaks to the world building that I'm able to jump

1136
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to these kinds of conclusions.

1137
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, for the for the most part, this story

1138
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:28.880
<v Speaker 1>was really told from the have not side. We did

1139
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.599
<v Speaker 1>not get any halves side like we did in Good Fortune. Yeah,

1140
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:35.320
<v Speaker 1>or I guess we didn't have long Walk either. But

1141
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:42.320
<v Speaker 1>weird casting. Bulky's weird casting note here part two, because

1142
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I did one already. Do you remember Agent

1143
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Doug in this movie? Agent Doug was the guy who

1144
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:51.360
<v Speaker 1>received Glenn Powell after he met with Josh Brolin.

1145
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, was took the sock in the Yeah.

1146
00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you recognize them for anything?

1147
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't didn't even register. You know, he's been in

1148
00:51:58.880 --> 00:51:59.320
<v Speaker 2>some stuff.

1149
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:03.480
<v Speaker 1>He is a rapper with a stage name of Slain.

1150
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe it is. He's performed. He formed a supergroup

1151
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.679
<v Speaker 1>with I can't remember who and House of Pain, and

1152
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:15.440
<v Speaker 1>he's been in this well. Yeah, Slain was in Oh man,

1153
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna forget now. He was in a Ben Affleck movie.

1154
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the account and the town. Well, I'm gonna get

1155
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:23.960
<v Speaker 2>to the town in a second. He was in a

1156
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:26.159
<v Speaker 2>Ben Affleck movie just as sort of like an extra

1157
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:29.000
<v Speaker 2>or something, and I guess Ben Affleck liked him, so

1158
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:32.119
<v Speaker 2>then he hired him a cast him in the town.

1159
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.679
<v Speaker 2>He was the driver that drove the ambulance at the

1160
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 2>end of the town. That he was like their wheelman.

1161
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah and that, And so as soon as I'm watching

1162
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 2>on this, I think that's the dude from the town.

1163
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:44.239
<v Speaker 2>And I looked it up.

1164
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Sure enough it was him that but I can't remember

1165
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the first a It might have been gone, baby, gone,

1166
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>now baby, that's what it is.

1167
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:54.320
<v Speaker 2>He's actually, ironically enough, in a Frank Grill Frank Grillo

1168
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:56.039
<v Speaker 2>vehicle named the Wheelman.

1169
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh there, I wonder if he was the wheelman.

1170
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.920
<v Speaker 2>He's actually got I'm looking at the first half dozen

1171
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 2>right here. He was in the worst movie he ever made,

1172
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:05.360
<v Speaker 2>the Joker sequel.

1173
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:07.480
<v Speaker 1>He was in h I didn't realize he was in that.

1174
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's in Why block that movie out? But he's

1175
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.000
<v Speaker 2>in a ton of stuff, so yeah, but so yeah,

1176
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even reckon.

1177
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because the way he talked, you know, he's you know,

1178
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:17.719
<v Speaker 1>some of these actors, they just can't hide where they're from.

1179
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Billy Bob Thornton, I think is one of them. This

1180
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:22.480
<v Speaker 1>guy definitely mean, I can't tell. This guy is like

1181
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Boston bred, yeah.

1182
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:27.960
<v Speaker 2>And realistically the only likable person within the establishment. Like

1183
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:30.039
<v Speaker 2>he does what he says he's going to do, He

1184
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:33.880
<v Speaker 2>tries to come through, he's he's courteous, he's respectful. Everybody

1185
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:34.719
<v Speaker 2>else kind of sucks.

1186
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 1>I think there's there's something something to be said for,

1187
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:40.800
<v Speaker 1>like I, okay, so I know somebody like this in

1188
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:45.159
<v Speaker 1>real life, and how he treats people who are you know,

1189
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.880
<v Speaker 1>have nots or whatever. And I know how hard this

1190
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:51.039
<v Speaker 1>dude worked to have what he has, And sometimes I

1191
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:54.320
<v Speaker 1>think it's weird the way he communicates and talks with

1192
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:57.719
<v Speaker 1>and treats some of these people and and and to

1193
00:53:57.800 --> 00:53:59.800
<v Speaker 1>me it's like, well, I think he does that because

1194
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.480
<v Speaker 1>he recognizes that maybe there's a couple of breaks that

1195
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:06.599
<v Speaker 1>went his way where where if they didn't go his way,

1196
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:09.280
<v Speaker 1>he would be like, you know, living living in a

1197
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:12.400
<v Speaker 1>similar lifestyle to these people. And I think that was

1198
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:14.679
<v Speaker 1>sort of like what Agent Doug had too, where like

1199
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, if if you know he was fortunate enough

1200
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:22.559
<v Speaker 1>to get this good job, but yeah, something goes differently.

1201
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's he's forced to do the Running Man as well.

1202
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean where we're never that far removed, and

1203
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I have to ask you did your casting thing here?

1204
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.559
<v Speaker 2>So I go ahead because I couldn't help, but ask

1205
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:36.159
<v Speaker 2>myself this, and I genuinely don't have an answer, because

1206
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.320
<v Speaker 2>who would you did you want to punch in the

1207
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:47.360
<v Speaker 2>face more Josh Brolin in this character or uh Luke Skywalker?

1208
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm blanking on his name. Oh Mark uh Mark Hamill?

1209
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Mark Hamill from The Long Walk who was more punishable

1210
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:57.760
<v Speaker 2>this movie, because Mark Hamill was a little more cartoonish,

1211
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.199
<v Speaker 2>but Brolan did lean into the camp quite a bit

1212
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.280
<v Speaker 2>in this movie. So like there's a little bit of

1213
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I resented both of them.

1214
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.639
<v Speaker 1>I would say Mark Hamill because I think at times

1215
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I do feel like Josh Brolin was really rooting for

1216
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:15.800
<v Speaker 1>for Glenn Poll maybe selfishly ratings wise, yeah, but I

1217
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:19.000
<v Speaker 1>think he was. He was taking the time to meet

1218
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.079
<v Speaker 1>with them. It's he was looking out for his own

1219
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.880
<v Speaker 1>self interest. You know. The longer this dude survives, the

1220
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:26.960
<v Speaker 1>better my ratings are going to be. The more people

1221
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>are going to be watching the better my life's going

1222
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:30.400
<v Speaker 1>to be. But I do think he was kind of

1223
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.199
<v Speaker 1>genuine in that Hollywood would chew you up book. Yeah,

1224
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:38.159
<v Speaker 1>I know they would, Yeah, Mark Mark Hamill, he gave

1225
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>us kudos and his props to these guys, but it

1226
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:43.800
<v Speaker 1>was a real gruff terse way. And and I don't know,

1227
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I just maybe I am gullible when it comes to that.

1228
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:51.360
<v Speaker 1>And and you saw right through Brolin's thing, and he's

1229
00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:54.159
<v Speaker 1>not a redeeming character. I didn't like him, but I

1230
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:57.239
<v Speaker 1>probably liked him more than I liked Mark Hamill's character

1231
00:55:57.280 --> 00:55:57.760
<v Speaker 1>in Long Walk.

1232
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.599
<v Speaker 2>I'll be I'll be real, just even in my own life.

1233
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:02.440
<v Speaker 2>As you know, I'm not going to go into details,

1234
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:04.559
<v Speaker 2>but I've been dealing with some higher ups in different

1235
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.599
<v Speaker 2>media areas and I'm always and they're not trying to

1236
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:09.480
<v Speaker 2>sign me up for something that's gonna kill me over

1237
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:11.239
<v Speaker 2>the course of thirty days. And I'm like, you know,

1238
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 2>yeah right, And I'm like, what is your ulterior motive here?

1239
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:18.280
<v Speaker 1>And so we have talked about this before. Everybody's got

1240
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:21.159
<v Speaker 1>an agenda, Yeah, everybody? Yeah, you and I have an agenda. Yes,

1241
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.519
<v Speaker 1>It's just that's that we're humans. We can't help.

1242
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And like again, I think I trend a little

1243
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 2>more towards Brolin because there was something just so extra seedy.

1244
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I do believe Mark Hamill for all of his

1245
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:38.039
<v Speaker 2>faults and flaws, and he did suck. I do think

1246
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:41.559
<v Speaker 2>he actually believed in the Long Walk, Like I think

1247
00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:44.079
<v Speaker 2>he was a cog in a machine that he was

1248
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:47.039
<v Speaker 2>just as much a part of as anybody else. Roland

1249
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:49.960
<v Speaker 2>was like a puppet master. He was like, yeah, I

1250
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:53.400
<v Speaker 2>am furthering this degeneration. I'm in charge of it, like

1251
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:54.519
<v Speaker 2>this is my thing.

1252
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is this is what I do, and everybody

1253
00:56:57.079 --> 00:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>else does what I say. You know, he he got

1254
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Ben Richards to sign on the data. By the way,

1255
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:05.639
<v Speaker 1>did you think that there is going to be more

1256
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.800
<v Speaker 1>of a fight there for Ben Richards to not sign

1257
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>off to be on the running man. He seemed to

1258
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:11.960
<v Speaker 1>give in pretty quickly there.

1259
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:13.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, I did think there would be more. But

1260
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:15.840
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, I don't hate it because it.

1261
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Was desperation time for his daughter, clearly.

1262
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, and you know he's going to sign it like

1263
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:21.840
<v Speaker 2>like that. That is a like let's get to the

1264
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:24.320
<v Speaker 2>part that we all know why we're here and what

1265
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:26.280
<v Speaker 2>stuck out to me. And I don't know how well

1266
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:29.400
<v Speaker 2>you remember the original, but the three people that go

1267
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:33.880
<v Speaker 2>into the game all coordinated. Like I was sitting there

1268
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 2>waiting for the three contestants to meet up, like that's

1269
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:39.519
<v Speaker 2>what stuck out to me. And apparently minus the ending,

1270
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:42.840
<v Speaker 2>this is very faithful to the book. Okay, so I

1271
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:44.960
<v Speaker 2>guess it's more relevant for the way things right.

1272
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, just from a from a strategy standpoint,

1273
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see those two contestants at all

1274
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:53.880
<v Speaker 1>because because if I'm close in proximity to him, guess

1275
00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:56.320
<v Speaker 1>who the hunters are going to be focusing on? Sure,

1276
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then you got more of a chance

1277
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that where if I'm like totally separated from everybody, and

1278
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>then what's that?

1279
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:04.880
<v Speaker 2>What's the rules of where you can travel? It didn't

1280
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:07.840
<v Speaker 2>seem like there were Could you have gone to Australia? Yeah,

1281
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:09.800
<v Speaker 2>if you could get through the you know.

1282
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Of course you got to drop them off in that

1283
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:14.320
<v Speaker 1>that stupid video in the mail. Yeah, that's what gets

1284
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:15.719
<v Speaker 1>you in Australia.

1285
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.199
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you I'm flying to Thailand at the end

1286
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:20.679
<v Speaker 2>of January and there's a fourteen hour just one of

1287
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the flights am on this fourteen hours, so like, you know,

1288
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:25.880
<v Speaker 2>you're playing with fire at that point, you know.

1289
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think it's time for us to rate this.

1290
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling this is to me the second

1291
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.320
<v Speaker 1>time ever. Yeah, you are going to give a film

1292
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a higher rating? Yeah, I have a feeling too. Are

1293
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you in the nine category? Wow? Yeah? Significantly, So I'm

1294
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.679
<v Speaker 1>gonna go seven on this one. Yeah. So it was fun,

1295
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:49.119
<v Speaker 1>it was enjoyable. Didn't move the needle for me, you know,

1296
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.159
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways that that I like my

1297
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:57.440
<v Speaker 1>needle to be moved. Clip that. Yeah, it was fine,

1298
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.360
<v Speaker 1>it was good. I liked it. I I was eagerly

1299
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:06.239
<v Speaker 1>waiting to see what happened next. I perhaps my expectations

1300
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:10.960
<v Speaker 1>on seeing more of a traditional Edgar Wright film has

1301
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:13.679
<v Speaker 1>has me kind of like down a little bit on that. Sure,

1302
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:17.599
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean for what it was, seven, I

1303
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:21.079
<v Speaker 1>think it was well acted. I think the direction was solid,

1304
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:25.519
<v Speaker 1>and I think the story was fun. Nothing blew my

1305
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:27.960
<v Speaker 1>socks off. And seven is not a bad score, which

1306
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:29.360
<v Speaker 1>is why I give it a seven. Yeah.

1307
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:32.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, this I think is an example for me

1308
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:35.000
<v Speaker 2>of the sum being more than the total.

1309
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:37.519
<v Speaker 1>However you say it, yeah, because it's the sum is

1310
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:38.599
<v Speaker 1>greater than the parts. Yeah.

1311
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the acting, none of it's gonna blow your mind.

1312
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:42.239
<v Speaker 1>None of it's bad.

1313
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:43.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's not like there was like a Heath Ledger

1314
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Joker performance in there, you know what I mean. Like,

1315
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:47.960
<v Speaker 2>it's nothing that's going to be talked about in a year.

1316
00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Remember Glenn Paul is being a teargate. Yeah. The plot,

1317
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:57.480
<v Speaker 2>this is like the seventh ninety nine percent versus one

1318
00:59:57.519 --> 00:59:59.519
<v Speaker 2>percent movie that you and I have discussed on this

1319
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:03.719
<v Speaker 2>It's not revolutionary in any way. The outcome, the ending,

1320
01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:05.920
<v Speaker 2>there's there's no ending, And honestly, you and I talking

1321
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.039
<v Speaker 2>about it makes me realize as an Edgar Wright film,

1322
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:11.039
<v Speaker 2>they basically just redid the ending to Scott Pilgrim versus

1323
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:12.639
<v Speaker 2>the World. And that's all I'm going to say about that,

1324
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:14.679
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want to go into anything else other

1325
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:16.440
<v Speaker 2>than that. But there's actually quite a few like he

1326
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:18.519
<v Speaker 2>just kind of did the same thing he's already done.

1327
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Nothing stands out as original. But as I mentioned, the

1328
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:24.639
<v Speaker 2>first forty minutes was probably one of the most into

1329
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:27.800
<v Speaker 2>an action movie I've ever been because I was so

1330
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:32.000
<v Speaker 2>excited about it, and as that novelty wore off, what

1331
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:38.599
<v Speaker 2>began to wear on for me was the Richards Lives movement. Yeah,

1332
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:42.559
<v Speaker 2>watching society come together, the fact that people weren't on

1333
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:46.000
<v Speaker 2>his side, and quite frankly, stuff that I would prefer

1334
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to see happen in the real world a little bit.

1335
01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I use the word Pollyannis either a week or two ago,

1336
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:53.079
<v Speaker 2>and there was an element of Pollyanna to me in this.

1337
01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:57.039
<v Speaker 2>But I you told me, it's like the naive outlook,

1338
01:00:57.280 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 2>just like, Okay, the media is here to inform us.

1339
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:02.199
<v Speaker 2>They don't have an agenda. Bulky said, they have an agenda.

1340
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:03.639
<v Speaker 2>But the media is here for the news.

1341
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:04.119
<v Speaker 1>No, they're not.

1342
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:06.239
<v Speaker 2>They have their spin. We all know they have their spin.

1343
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.000
<v Speaker 2>There's polyanners. Did the billionaires getting their come up? And

1344
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:11.320
<v Speaker 2>does that happen in real life?

1345
01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Not often?

1346
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Like it doesn't, and I would I like to see

1347
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:16.400
<v Speaker 2>it more, yes, But like there were different components that

1348
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:19.800
<v Speaker 2>kept me just happy and engaged. And as I mentioned,

1349
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 2>there were two or three lines that made me think,

1350
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:24.480
<v Speaker 2>does that get right? Listen outside the box because like

1351
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I've said specifically that multiple times and it was awesome.

1352
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.440
<v Speaker 2>So like, I'll be real with you, man, I was

1353
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:34.559
<v Speaker 2>walking out of that theater and I'm like, Ben, you

1354
01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:36.639
<v Speaker 2>can't show up tomorrow and give this a ten because

1355
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:38.679
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna look at you like you're ridiculous. This is

1356
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the first perfect movie. I was like, find something. So

1357
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.679
<v Speaker 2>the ending was a little convoluted to me. Yeah, and

1358
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go it a nine and a half because

1359
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.480
<v Speaker 2>of that ending. And I had to talk myself down

1360
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:52.079
<v Speaker 2>to a nine and a half because I thoroughly and

1361
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I for the record, still think Scott Pilgrim versus The

1362
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:56.599
<v Speaker 2>World is better than this movie.

1363
01:01:56.719 --> 01:01:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but well let's see how this one lives on.

1364
01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I saw Scott Pilgrim when I was in

1365
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 2>my early twenties a little confused on life, which is

1366
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:07.199
<v Speaker 2>exactly where he was. So there's much like in that movie.

1367
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I related to Michael Sarah in that movie there, so uh.

1368
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:13.440
<v Speaker 2>But to me, I thought this was an awesome interpretation,

1369
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 2>nothing john Wick style. I said in the john Wick

1370
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:18.280
<v Speaker 2>episode that john Wick kind of ruined action flicks.

1371
01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to a little, to a certain extent.

1372
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:23.360
<v Speaker 2>But this doesn't lean into it. I expected it to

1373
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:26.119
<v Speaker 2>be more graphic. There were graphic moments, but it was

1374
01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:29.559
<v Speaker 2>by no means at Gorefest. No, not a whole lot

1375
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 2>of death in general, and there's even moments where he

1376
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:34.559
<v Speaker 2>abstains and he's like, you're telling me to kill these

1377
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:36.280
<v Speaker 2>people and I'm not going to kill him, like, which

1378
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:39.599
<v Speaker 2>which I thought was an interesting take. It's the kind

1379
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:43.360
<v Speaker 2>of creativity or lack thereof it's hard to explain. It's

1380
01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:45.679
<v Speaker 2>hard to explain how this movie hit on so many

1381
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:47.840
<v Speaker 2>levels for me. But I know what I like. I

1382
01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:49.639
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's art, but I know what I know

1383
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:50.360
<v Speaker 2>when I see it.

1384
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I love this So the other thing too,

1385
01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that that kind of held me back. I

1386
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:58.440
<v Speaker 1>thought there was going to be portions of because you

1387
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:00.639
<v Speaker 1>got to survive thirty days, right, yeah, And I thought

1388
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 1>they're'd be like, Okay, Days one through six, he's hold

1389
01:03:03.159 --> 01:03:05.960
<v Speaker 1>up here, Days seven through eight, he's on the run.

1390
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.679
<v Speaker 1>Days nine through eleven he's hold up here, which I

1391
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:10.679
<v Speaker 1>think we like. They spent so much time on the

1392
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:13.239
<v Speaker 1>first two days, right, first two or three days, and

1393
01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:15.239
<v Speaker 1>then and he didn't make it a spoiler alert. He

1394
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:18.519
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make it till thirty there's a something happens before then.

1395
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 1>But then there was just so much like I that

1396
01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:25.760
<v Speaker 1>was maybe it would have been too boring to tell,

1397
01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:28.320
<v Speaker 1>but I was looking forward to more like, Okay, this

1398
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:30.880
<v Speaker 1>guy's got to keep moving. He can't just hold up somewhere. Yeah,

1399
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:35.280
<v Speaker 1>that's the advice in Walking dead Man. Once you settle down,

1400
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you die. You always got to keep moving, right, Yeah,

1401
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:41.159
<v Speaker 1>And that was true in this movie too, No for sure.

1402
01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:43.679
<v Speaker 2>And I there's a movie Ready or Not where a

1403
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:46.119
<v Speaker 2>rich family, like a poor a girl from a blue

1404
01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:49.000
<v Speaker 2>collar family is marrying into a very wealthy family and

1405
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:51.159
<v Speaker 2>they make you play a game because they made their

1406
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:54.239
<v Speaker 2>fortune on games, and all the games are just normal games,

1407
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:55.679
<v Speaker 2>like if you get Shoots and Ladders, you just play

1408
01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Shoots and Ladders, But if you get Hide and Seek,

1409
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:00.360
<v Speaker 2>the entire family's trying to murder you. And there's a

1410
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:03.480
<v Speaker 2>whole plot as to why I remember I say tomorrow.

1411
01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:06.719
<v Speaker 2>Weaving is the main actress. He's phenomenal. It's a great movie.

1412
01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, all right.

1413
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:11.679
<v Speaker 2>And at one point, like there's cameras all over the

1414
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:14.000
<v Speaker 2>house and they're like, no, no, no, we play this

1415
01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:16.400
<v Speaker 2>like our forefathers did when the games were invented. We

1416
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:18.400
<v Speaker 2>don't use any of the technology. And you're sitting there

1417
01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:20.400
<v Speaker 2>You're like, they're absolutely used.

1418
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:21.239
<v Speaker 1>And then.

1419
01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:25.119
<v Speaker 2>And so in this movie you see like, oh, we're

1420
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:27.519
<v Speaker 2>not tracking you. We're not doing this field, that's what.

1421
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:30.719
<v Speaker 2>And I immediately I was like, they're absolutely the.

1422
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Orange bracelet thing. Yeah, I mean you're telling me this,

1423
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:37.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the videotapes and and like that, the

1424
01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:39.079
<v Speaker 1>camera and everything. There's no tracker in there. Give me

1425
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:40.280
<v Speaker 1>a break. Yeah. Yeah.

1426
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:42.800
<v Speaker 2>So there there's a there's a lot of moments in

1427
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:45.079
<v Speaker 2>it that just like I would highly recommend this, don't

1428
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:47.159
<v Speaker 2>let the box office scary. And even while we were talking,

1429
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I looked up reviews. They're they're decent, They're two thirds

1430
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:51.559
<v Speaker 2>for critics and audience, so.

1431
01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:54.360
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's deservedly. So I I don't I

1432
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.800
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's really if you go into this movie

1433
01:04:57.840 --> 01:04:59.599
<v Speaker 1>and you watch it and you come out and you say, yeah,

1434
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't like that. I mean I don't

1435
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:05.119
<v Speaker 1>think you like movies. Yeah, I gave it a seven. Yeah,

1436
01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:08.360
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Much more. What is it? Bearish on this one?

1437
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Like it? Yeah?

1438
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's what I thought. Okay, so a little bit,

1439
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:14.400
<v Speaker 2>you still like it, but you're more bearish than I.

1440
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bearish it. That's not the right. I'm less bullish

1441
01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:18.880
<v Speaker 1>on it. Yeah, I think that's the way I would.

1442
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I would say, yeah, solid stuff. Though next week I'm

1443
01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.039
<v Speaker 2>optimistic about next week as well. We might be going

1444
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:25.440
<v Speaker 2>back to back here.

1445
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you this right now. I'm going to

1446
01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:30.519
<v Speaker 1>give this movie no, no smaller than an eight and

1447
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:32.679
<v Speaker 1>a half. Yeah, I have already made up my mind.

1448
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to like it. I love this series, and

1449
01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what I mean. I haven't looked at

1450
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:41.599
<v Speaker 1>the reviews or anything. I don't care what they are.

1451
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be able to unbiasedly talk about this. Yeah,

1452
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:47.320
<v Speaker 1>next week I'm not gonna be able to. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to our now you see me now you

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<v Speaker 1>don't episode bear that in mind. Now I'll give a

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<v Speaker 1>disclaimer at the start of that episode too. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, guys, I love this movie, but I

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<v Speaker 1>said on last week's show that I was gonna love

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. So take it with a grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 2>And you've said as much about movies in general that

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<v Speaker 2>you much more so go in knowing you're gonna like

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<v Speaker 2>it or a little.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not knowing, it's just making up your mind. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you believe you're gonna like something, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you believe you're not gonna like something,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's the way it is.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's the beauty of cinema. Man, Like, no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the beauty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's the wrong way to do it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an extraordinarily closed mind view of title look at things.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, but like, we watched Nuremberg last week and

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<v Speaker 2>I walked I walked in, I'm like, what am I

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<v Speaker 2>really getting into? And I enjoyed it and the performances

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<v Speaker 2>were good. And then I saw this yesterday. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I forgot this is this is how

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<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to feel walking out of the theater. Am

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<v Speaker 2>I a Cretan?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I know it's like you had

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<v Speaker 1>your cup of coffee with Nuremberg and then you you

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<v Speaker 1>did your your your eight ball. Yes it's running man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know exactly to turn into a horse.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 2>For this episode, guys, catch us on w S C

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<v Speaker 2>O and w HB Y exactly where you're getting this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast as well the show with Balky outside the Box

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<v Speaker 2>with me.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you then
