Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this.
Speaker 2: By the way, we're live now it should be playing
Speaker 2: the intro and hey, hey guys, welcome back to another
Speaker 2: episode of the Typical Skeptic Podcast. I'm really excited to
Speaker 2: have my guests back today. Today I have with me
Speaker 2: back Peter Fuller. And you know we've done two or
Speaker 2: three shows in the past. But you know, the first
Speaker 2: two interviews got taken down off YouTube because not because
Speaker 2: of anything bad, but I mean because my channel or
Speaker 2: whatever got taken down. So you know, I wrote a
Speaker 2: little bourber about today. Welcome back to the Typical Skeptic
Speaker 2: Podcast and episode number nineteen thirty five. We dive deep
Speaker 2: into the heart of the secret space program with acclaimed
Speaker 2: author Peter Fuller, creator of.
Speaker 1: The solar Warden series.
Speaker 2: Peter's working sports the hidden truth behind our breakaway civilizations, COVID,
Speaker 2: interstellar missions, and humanity is growing an ongoing cosmic war.
Speaker 2: With decades of research and storytelling, Peter brings face to
Speaker 2: face with reality of solar ward and a black budget
Speaker 2: space fleet guarding the Earth. Don't miss this mind expanding
Speaker 2: episode as we unravel the mysteries of our intergalactic shadow
Speaker 2: history and a little bit more about my guest.
Speaker 1: Peter Fuller is.
Speaker 2: A military historian and he's also the visionary author behind
Speaker 2: the Solar Warden sci fi series, a gripping saga rooted
Speaker 2: in real world theories about the secret space program a
Speaker 2: truth secret Heart. Peter draws from whistleblower testimony, military insider reports,
Speaker 2: and classified space operations to weave a narrative that blurs
Speaker 2: the line between fiction and reality. His series explores the
Speaker 2: covert Solar Warden Fleet, an alleged off world defense sports
Speaker 2: task with protecting humanity from extraterrestrial threats.
Speaker 1: You can learn more.
Speaker 2: About it at www www dot solar dash Warden dot com.
Speaker 2: And I'd like to give him a big, warm welcome
Speaker 2: back to the show, Peter, thanks so much for coming
Speaker 2: back on Man.
Speaker 3: How are you. Oh, I'm good, and thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: It's real honor to be on your podcast. Robert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Yeah, I was just looking at the books
Speaker 2: again last night. I remember you sent me the books
Speaker 2: and uh, they're all so good. Like but wait, tell
Speaker 2: the audience, like, what made you interested in this topic,
Speaker 2: like as compared to just regular uthology.
Speaker 3: Well, uh, yeah, it's it's a bit of a journey.
Speaker 3: But what happened was I was sorry, I'm just trying
Speaker 3: to organize my thoughts here. Initially, I had some some
Speaker 3: information that kind of dropped into my lap from from
Speaker 3: whistleblowers about a program that was going on within the
Speaker 3: military that was it was black budget and it was
Speaker 3: top secret and and uh so it kind of intrigued me.
Speaker 3: And then I saw a couple of programs on television
Speaker 3: excuse me, they're my throat here. One was uh with
Speaker 3: Richard Saraht and he did an episode on his program
Speaker 3: about the secret space program, and that intrigued me. And
Speaker 3: then what really kind of triggered it was in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 3: I was watching a program called Hangar one the UFO Files,
Speaker 3: and they did an episode called Space Weapons and they
Speaker 3: talked specifically about Solar Warden. They went into some pretty
Speaker 3: detailed information about the TR three B And as I
Speaker 3: was watching that program, I thought, you know what, this
Speaker 3: would make a great story. So I started writing, and
Speaker 3: I started, you know, like, I've been interested in UFOs
Speaker 3: pretty much my whole life. I had a couple of
Speaker 3: minor experiences where I saw some UFOs when I was younger,
Speaker 3: and so that intrigued me, and I started reading books
Speaker 3: and you know, drove the librarian at my school crazy
Speaker 3: because I kept asking for these weird books. But so
Speaker 3: it's it's been kind of a long journey for me
Speaker 3: with all of this. And then in twenty fifteen, as
Speaker 3: I said, I started writing, and I wrote the manuscript
Speaker 3: for the first novel, and when I finished it, the
Speaker 3: ideas continue to flow. So I wrote the manuscript for
Speaker 3: the second book, and the third book and most of
Speaker 3: the fourth book. But so then what I did was
Speaker 3: I published book one and it won a couple of
Speaker 3: awards and was you know, it was well received, and
Speaker 3: so I've just kind of gone from there. But the
Speaker 3: thing is, I've done a lot of research on this topic,
Speaker 3: you know, the Secret Space Program and of course everything
Speaker 3: that it involves, and so you know, not just on
Speaker 3: the internet, but you know know, I've I've read a
Speaker 3: lot of books, I've seen you know, videos and interviews
Speaker 3: by people. I've talked to a couple of whistleblowers personally
Speaker 3: that gave me some information that I was able to
Speaker 3: incorporate in my stories. So that's that's sort of the
Speaker 3: you know, the the journey in a nutshell that's amazing.
Speaker 2: And then I was wondering, like what you thought of
Speaker 2: the whole Corey Good fiasco because like, you know, like
Speaker 2: you know, he's trying to say that he came up
Speaker 2: with the term secrets based program, which we know that's
Speaker 2: not true.
Speaker 1: I don't think he did, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I think there were you know, like there's people
Speaker 2: like Richard Dolan and uh, you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think of that guy's name who comes on Richard Dolan,
Speaker 2: he talked they both talk about the secrets based program.
Speaker 2: Joseph Powell or no, not Joseph. I'm trying to think
Speaker 2: of his name. He's a uh, he's a well known author.
Speaker 2: He's kind of like friends, you know, and him and
Speaker 2: Richard Dolan, I know they talk about it as far
Speaker 2: as like big name researchers that.
Speaker 1: Talk about it.
Speaker 2: But like, did you did you think there was a
Speaker 2: lot of blowback from the court, because for example, Darcy
Speaker 2: were just made a movie called Dark Alliance where he
Speaker 2: talks about the whole Corey Good fiasco and the whole
Speaker 2: blow up of guy at TV.
Speaker 1: What did you think of that?
Speaker 2: And then what do you think about I mean, like,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's interesting though that there's a lot of
Speaker 2: other experiences coming out saying that they've even been involved
Speaker 2: in these programs and stuff, you know, and I entertain that,
Speaker 2: you know, I have a lot of them on because
Speaker 2: I believe people are going through something. So I want
Speaker 2: people to be able to tell their story. But like,
Speaker 2: what did you have any thoughts about what happened with
Speaker 2: Corey Good in particular?
Speaker 3: Well, I like to begin these podcasts by making two points.
Speaker 3: My first point is you have to be very careful.
Speaker 3: You don't believe everything that you see or read or hear.
Speaker 3: You have to be a skeptic, right and you and
Speaker 3: so you know you you look at this information and
Speaker 3: what you need to do is do your own homework.
Speaker 3: I mean, don't just take anything at face value and
Speaker 3: don't believe you know everything that somebody just tells you.
Speaker 3: And then my second point is that people tend to
Speaker 3: believe what they want to believe, and it's it's imperative
Speaker 3: again that you remain skeptical and that you remain objective.
Speaker 3: You don't park your brain at the door. You look
Speaker 3: into this yourself. I mean, be your own researcher and
Speaker 3: do your own homework and come to your own conclusions
Speaker 3: and don't just parrot what other people say. Now, with
Speaker 3: regards to Corey Good, you know, I guess, you know,
Speaker 3: the bottom line for me is that I have a
Speaker 3: difficult time accepting what he says as being factual. And
Speaker 3: you know, and one of the main reasons is, I mean,
Speaker 3: I've done a ton of research and I've done my homework,
Speaker 3: you know, and I incorporate that research in my novels.
Speaker 3: And so when somebody says, well, you know, you said thus,
Speaker 3: and so you know, how do you know that that's
Speaker 3: that that's true. Well, if I say that it's true,
Speaker 3: then it's because I've done the research and I've come
Speaker 3: to the conclusion, you know. And you don't just take
Speaker 3: you know, one source, as you know, as your evidence
Speaker 3: for whatever you're you're promoting. You have two or three
Speaker 3: or four sources that corroborate each other. And that's that's
Speaker 3: what good research does. With Corey Good, one of the
Speaker 3: biggest problems I have with him is that he doesn't
Speaker 3: have any evidence to back up what he's saying. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all of his all of his evidence is strictly antle.
Speaker 3: It's just you know, he's just telling me the story.
Speaker 3: And so, you know, with with researchers like Richard Dolan.
Speaker 3: I mean you mentioned that Corey is claiming that, you
Speaker 3: know that he coined the phrase solar Warden or or
Speaker 3: a secret space program or whatever. But Richard Dolan actually
Speaker 3: coined the phrase breakaway civilization, which he describes the Secret
Speaker 3: Space Program as being. And I mean that's documented, right,
Speaker 3: He coined that in his book UFOs and the National
Speaker 3: Security State, the first one they're actually too But you know,
Speaker 3: so that's documented. But for somebody like Corey Good and
Speaker 3: those who sort of fall into his category, again, all
Speaker 3: of their evidence is anecdotal. So I have a great
Speaker 3: big question mark with regards to what they say.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, and now what do you think why do
Speaker 2: you think going to coins the like solar Warden or
Speaker 2: the Secret Space Program as a breakaway civilization? Is it
Speaker 2: because they've surpassed the amount of technology that we will
Speaker 2: ever have. They're not telling us about it. They seem to,
Speaker 2: you know, act on their own accord. And do you
Speaker 2: think they have any connections Earth programs like like the
Speaker 2: CIA and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there. I think there are still connections
Speaker 3: with the Secret Space Program and uh, you know, governments
Speaker 3: and government agencies on Earth. I think the reason why
Speaker 3: Richard Dolan calls the secret space program a breakaway civilization
Speaker 3: is because they've moved beyond the word sort of beyond
Speaker 3: the authority of you know, the governments of the Earth
Speaker 3: and the and the institutions that that you know, that
Speaker 3: they kind of grew out of, and so they've become
Speaker 3: their own sort of government, their own civilization. They no
Speaker 3: longer rely or answer to the governments or the institutions
Speaker 3: on Earth, even though I still believe, I do believe
Speaker 3: that they still you know, use or utilize you know,
Speaker 3: government uh, you know, government institutions or whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call them, uh, you know, for their uh you know,
Speaker 3: for their for their technology. I mean, their technology is
Speaker 3: basically their own. They it's it's it's locked up in
Speaker 3: these in these secret programs and uh and it's not
Speaker 3: available to you know, the the regular governments or or
Speaker 3: you know, any of the the large corporations or whatever.
Speaker 3: Even though I think that there are still corporations on
Speaker 3: Earth that are producing their their hardware and their infrastructure.
Speaker 3: But it's case in point. There's just let me get
Speaker 3: a book here, and I want to quote something. Ah,
Speaker 3: where is it here?
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: This is secrets let's see if you can see it,
Speaker 3: Secrets of Anti Gravity Propulsion. It's written by a physicist
Speaker 3: called Paul of Violet. And this this is what this
Speaker 3: is kind of a case in point with regards to
Speaker 3: you know, what we're talking about here. But he says,
Speaker 3: he says that in October two thousand and seven, I
Speaker 3: heard from a reliable US government source that Boeing recently
Speaker 3: completed a classified electrogravitics that's anti gravity electrogravitics propulsion project
Speaker 3: for the military that had certain novel features. The technology
Speaker 3: worked so well that they felt it could be a
Speaker 3: fantastic benefit if used on their commercial jet airliners. Now
Speaker 3: this is Boeing's that's making the statement. And they reportedly
Speaker 3: applied for declassification of the invention for commercial use, but
Speaker 3: they were denied permission because the government institution or the
Speaker 3: government program that had had employed them to work on
Speaker 3: this anti gravity program they said, no, it's not for
Speaker 3: general consumption, it's for our use only. And so you know,
Speaker 3: they've they've got all of these these technologies locked up
Speaker 3: in their black projects and they're and they're they're just
Speaker 3: not allowing the general public. I mean it would, it
Speaker 3: would revolutionize our society. But I think the bottom line
Speaker 3: comes down to the fact that if it gets into
Speaker 3: the public sphere, then anybody has access to that technology,
Speaker 3: including China, Russia, you know, Iran. I mean, so what
Speaker 3: they're doing is they've kept it locked up because they
Speaker 3: don't want anyone else to have it. And this was
Speaker 3: the problem with the atomic bomb program at the end
Speaker 3: of the the Second World War, the Manhattan Project, they
Speaker 3: kept it secret. They had fifty thousand people working on
Speaker 3: that project, yet they kept it secret. And it was
Speaker 3: I can't remember his name, but Tom one Man decided
Speaker 3: that no one nation should have this technology, it's atomic
Speaker 3: bomb technology. So he turned around and sold it, committed
Speaker 3: treason and sold it to the Russians. And that's how
Speaker 3: the the genie got out of the bottle. So they're
Speaker 3: being extremely careful with this this technology that they have
Speaker 3: and that they're using to make I get a question
Speaker 3: about Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: This is really important and I don't want to forget.
Speaker 2: That's why I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I just I Michael Sala. I like Michael sala you know,
Speaker 2: I really do. But he's he's saying that maybe China
Speaker 2: has a secret space program, that Rush has a secret
Speaker 2: space program, and then we know, like Hi'm a shed
Speaker 2: from the Israeli space says that you know, he's talked
Speaker 2: about you know what I'm saying is like people are
Speaker 2: saying that maybe some other people.
Speaker 1: Have secret space rooms. And we know there's been UFO.
Speaker 2: Crashes all over the world, right, so I you know,
Speaker 2: Michael Schratt talks about that that it's a worldwide thing,
Speaker 2: that there's you know, so what do you think the
Speaker 2: chances are that this is like a multi government thing,
Speaker 2: but may or do you think maybe everybody gets along
Speaker 2: out in the space or something like, but like, you know,
Speaker 2: they have problems here on Earth, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3: Well it's it's the old the enemy of my enemy
Speaker 3: is my friend, right, and so if Earth is threatened
Speaker 3: by a malevolent entity, then you know there's there is
Speaker 3: the there's a good chance that nations will will collaborate
Speaker 3: in order to protect themselves and each other from this
Speaker 3: this threat. History has shown that that's not necessarily the case.
Speaker 3: When the Europeans landed in North America, the Indians didn't
Speaker 3: combine to resist them. What they did was they went
Speaker 3: to them and they said, look it, if you help
Speaker 3: us eliminate our enemy over here, then we'll be your
Speaker 3: friends kind of thing, and that happened the numerous case.
Speaker 3: But I in my research, I have heard hints of
Speaker 3: Russia having a secret space program in the sense that
Speaker 3: it's collaborated with Solar Warden and that there are bases
Speaker 3: in Russia like Abustagar and others that are associated with
Speaker 3: the secret space program. China, it's quite possible. I mean,
Speaker 3: they're really pushing forward with space exploration. They sent a
Speaker 3: probe to the Moon. I know that there's talk of
Speaker 3: China going to Mars, but you know that that may
Speaker 3: all just be smoking mirrors like it is, like NASA
Speaker 3: is just a big front to kind of like a
Speaker 3: smoke screen to to get people to look away from,
Speaker 3: you know, the what the secret Space program is doing.
Speaker 3: So it's like misdirection. So they're watching the Saturn rockets
Speaker 3: go up into space while the secret space program is
Speaker 3: building up you know this or that or the other thing,
Speaker 3: you know, on the Moon or on Mars or whatever.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about that because I
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw this, but like Demi Lovado
Speaker 2: and like five other women, I think they put like
Speaker 2: a teacher, like you know, like and and this is crazy.
Speaker 2: This is what I mean about NASA, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: I think NASA is totally bullshitting with some of the
Speaker 2: stuff they do. They said they sent those women to space.
Speaker 2: I said, well, doesn't it I said last night I
Speaker 2: was on someone else's podcast. I said, doesn't it take
Speaker 2: like thirty years to become an astronaut? Like don't you
Speaker 2: need to know like certain things and how to be
Speaker 2: anti gravitical in space and stuff like. I think those women,
Speaker 2: if they really would have went to space, they would
Speaker 2: have had to train for a while. And also what
Speaker 2: I was thinking is if those women really went to space,
Speaker 2: they would have saw the Secret Space Program operations up there,
Speaker 2: you know, like they would the Secret Space Program is
Speaker 2: not just going to hide, you know, because they know
Speaker 2: that Earthlings are coming up to space. Like and thought
Speaker 2: I also thought, like why now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: like they haven't. I mean, they send people they say
Speaker 2: the International Space Station, but I don't know, it's all
Speaker 2: so strange. And then you know, they say we haven't
Speaker 2: been back to the moon since nineteen sixty eight. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty eight, we had like computers that are
Speaker 2: less powerful than our phones. Now you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like we have phones that are more powerful than that. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So it's a weird conundrum with NASA and like what
Speaker 2: technology they're actually showing to the public and what NASA
Speaker 2: is portraying is what is real and what's not?
Speaker 1: Would you agree with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that when you're dealing with an organization,
Speaker 3: if you will, as sophisticated and as technologically advanced as
Speaker 3: a secret space program. I mean. The thing is is
Speaker 3: these ladies just went into low Earth orbit. You know,
Speaker 3: it was like when William Shatner went up, It didn't
Speaker 3: actually go into space. They were just kind of at
Speaker 3: the you know, the the upper edge of the atmosphere,
Speaker 3: so you know, it was it was far enough up
Speaker 3: for them to get weightless, but that was it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And it's yeah, with regards to training, well, you know,
Speaker 3: Bill Shatner didn't have that much training either, So so
Speaker 3: what they're doing is they're just kind of taking a
Speaker 3: you know, just a sort of a quick trip up,
Speaker 3: you know, like I said, into lower Thurbit and then
Speaker 3: back again. And I just I just saw this this
Speaker 3: article where they talked about the fact that the monkey
Speaker 3: that they sent up in the early nineteen sixties had
Speaker 3: more training than than these ladies did when they went up.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, which is which is kind of
Speaker 3: kind of funny. Now I think that it was just
Speaker 3: some kind of a gimmick, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, why send five women up into space? Yeah,
Speaker 3: for what reason? And and again you know, no training.
Speaker 3: So all they did was they just went up, they
Speaker 3: cruised for a bit, and they came back down again, uh,
Speaker 3: which which requires very little, if any training. I mean,
Speaker 3: they're talking about doing these these vacation trips again into
Speaker 3: low Earth orbit, you know. And anybody can you know,
Speaker 3: for the right amount of money, anybody can jump on
Speaker 3: this this rocket and and and take this trip. In
Speaker 3: my in my novel, in book four of my novel,
Speaker 3: I talk about the fact that the Secret Space Program
Speaker 3: has what they call a deep space platform, which is
Speaker 3: just another name for a space station, and they have
Speaker 3: it in Earth orbit. And in order to avoid now again,
Speaker 3: they have they have technology like cloaking technology, so they
Speaker 3: can literally hide any assets that they have from uh
Speaker 3: you know, anybody you know looking for them or or
Speaker 3: even accidentally, you know, discovering them. But in in my
Speaker 3: in my novel, I have that that deep space platform
Speaker 3: on the opposite side of the Earth from the International
Speaker 3: Space Station, So the is S can't see them, right
Speaker 3: because they're they're they're in geosync orbit and and they're there,
Speaker 3: they're opposite of the is S s, so they're never
Speaker 3: going to see them. And and again you know, you
Speaker 3: have you have their spacecraft that travels from Earth to
Speaker 3: the Moon and beyond, and uh, you know, as they're
Speaker 3: as they're exiting the atmosphere and headed out into space,
Speaker 3: again they're cloaked, so nobody can see them.
Speaker 1: You mean your three b's and stuff or whatever we're using.
Speaker 2: And I think it's the higher versions of the tr now, right,
Speaker 2: like they literally have like yeah, right.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, they've had this technology for a very
Speaker 3: long time. And one whistleblower that I spoke to, his
Speaker 3: father was a forensic accountant for the for the United
Speaker 3: States Army, and that meant that he had the highest
Speaker 3: he had the highest clearance above top secret, and he
Speaker 3: could go on to any military US military base anywhere
Speaker 3: in the world and open their books and look at
Speaker 3: their accounts. And after he was and of course he
Speaker 3: had to sign serious non disclosure agreements. But after he
Speaker 3: was retired, one evening, this this friend of mine, who
Speaker 3: is this whistleblower. Uh He and his three brothers were
Speaker 3: sitting out on the front porch with their dad, the
Speaker 3: forensic account for the for the United States Armed Forces.
Speaker 3: And dad had a few too many beers and and
Speaker 3: it kind of loosened his tongue and he started telling
Speaker 3: them about these things that that that the United States
Speaker 3: uh uh military had because he'd seen that, he'd seen
Speaker 3: the accounts, he'd seen the documents. And this is you've
Speaker 3: got to remember, this is in the mid nineteen sixties
Speaker 3: that he's telling this story. And he's saying that, you know,
Speaker 3: they already had an electromagnetic shield, you know, like in
Speaker 3: Star Trek shields up kind of thing. And so this
Speaker 3: is in the mid nineteen sixties, and they were testing
Speaker 3: it and it protected They had it mounted on a
Speaker 3: tank and it protected the tank from every weapon that
Speaker 3: they fired against it. Now, how do I know that
Speaker 3: this is true and not just you know, somebody sort
Speaker 3: of you know, making up a story a number of things.
Speaker 3: Won he said they had a problem with it. They
Speaker 3: couldn't figure out how to get the shield, the electromagnetic
Speaker 3: shield to extend underneath the tank so the tank could
Speaker 3: actually be taken out by a simple landmine. And another
Speaker 3: thing he said, He said the shield generator was almost
Speaker 3: as large as the tank and had to be hauled
Speaker 3: behind it in a trailer. And you don't, you know,
Speaker 3: you don't make up stuff like this. This is this
Speaker 3: is stuff that you've actually seen. The interesting thing is
Speaker 3: is that they may not have been able to get
Speaker 3: that electromagnetic shield underneath the tank, but if you put that,
Speaker 3: you mount that shield generator on an aircraft, and you
Speaker 3: have a three hundred and sixty degree bubble of protection.
Speaker 3: Now remember this is in the mid nineteen sixties, So
Speaker 3: what do you think that they have now sixty you know,
Speaker 3: sixty years later. I mean, they weren't just they weren't
Speaker 3: just sitting on this technology and going, Okay, we got
Speaker 3: it now, we don't need to do anything else with it.
Speaker 3: They've been working on it and developing, developing it and
Speaker 3: improving it since that time. And he told stories about
Speaker 3: other things, and then he said, boys, I shouldn't be
Speaker 3: telling you this, and they were saying, Dad, Dad, no,
Speaker 3: tell us more, tell us more. We want to hear more.
Speaker 3: And he told, you know, there are other things that
Speaker 3: he told about. You know, what they had back then,
Speaker 3: like they had they had a ray gun that was
Speaker 3: you know, like like Captain Kirk's phaser was a handheld
Speaker 3: directed energy weapon and he said, you know, the only
Speaker 3: problem with it was that one unit would cost about
Speaker 3: a million dollars in nineteen sixty five money in order
Speaker 3: to produce, so it wasn't practical for them to put
Speaker 3: it into general production. But that was sixty years ago.
Speaker 3: What do you think they have now, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sure that they perfected that, and they're they're using
Speaker 3: these weapons in whatever conflict they're engaged in. So, you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's interesting that that, you know, the technology
Speaker 3: never remained static, especially military technology. It's always improving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always going to say.
Speaker 2: You know, they even say they have V two K,
Speaker 2: which is a voice to skull technology, and they said
Speaker 2: that's what they used in the Iraq War, you know,
Speaker 2: to like I don't know if you've ever heard of this,
Speaker 2: but you know, these people say they're targeted by the government.
Speaker 1: You know, there's like.
Speaker 2: Targeted individuals, which is a really fringe topic, and it's
Speaker 2: it's you know, I know it's hard to you know,
Speaker 2: like prove, but you know what there is, like, like
Speaker 2: I said, something interesting when you mentioned military technology, they
Speaker 2: say that we have like the two K you know,
Speaker 2: and they say they used it on the Iraqi soldiers
Speaker 2: and Desert Storm and they said that's what they got
Speaker 2: the Iraqi soldiers to like submit their put their weapons
Speaker 2: down or something like that. You know, Like it's so
Speaker 2: I definitely believe that it's out there. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: not proved, you know, it's just it's a it's a story,
Speaker 2: but you know, it's it's interesting. And then it's like
Speaker 2: would the would the would the government be you know,
Speaker 2: experimenting on their own citizens. That's a that's a big question,
Speaker 2: and that that's interesting because that also gets into the
Speaker 2: the the the the topic of alien abductions, military abductions
Speaker 2: and you know and all that stuff. What do you
Speaker 2: what do you feel about that stuff? Because I know
Speaker 2: the reason why I ask you that it's kind of.
Speaker 1: Off the top of the soul warden.
Speaker 2: But it's eufology related, and I know you've studied euphology.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like the military abductions and the alien
Speaker 2: abductions are happening if you had.
Speaker 3: To get absolutely yeah, absolutely yeah. Going back to what
Speaker 3: you said earlier, the V two K. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you ever watched Jesse Jesse Ventura's program that was
Speaker 3: on a few years back. He actually had something to
Speaker 3: demonstrate that where where they had this device and it
Speaker 3: looked like a like a parabolic mic, you know, it
Speaker 3: had the it had the dish and they could aim
Speaker 3: that at an individual. And he actually demonstrated this and
Speaker 3: did it on on screen where they had a person
Speaker 3: walking down the sidewalk across the street and this guy
Speaker 3: focused this this device at this person and and spoke
Speaker 3: several sentences. And then afterwards they went to the guy
Speaker 3: and they said, you know, okay, tell us what you
Speaker 3: were thinking, you know while you were walking and he
Speaker 3: and he spoke exactly what the guy with the device spoke.
Speaker 3: So it works, right, They do have that, uh and
Speaker 3: and Jesse Ventura demonstrated it on his program with regards
Speaker 3: to uh, you know the other technology, Yeah, absolutely, you
Speaker 3: know there's there are things that the the the black
Speaker 3: projects have, the black technology has that I think, you know,
Speaker 3: would would make us lay awake at night because of
Speaker 3: its of its capability. And with regards to the military
Speaker 3: abductions and the the alien abductions, yeah, they're real, they're real.
Speaker 3: There was a pupil that was done several years ago
Speaker 3: and they determined that five to six percent of the
Speaker 3: population of the United States has experienced an alien abduction.
Speaker 3: Now and and that's just the United States. That's not
Speaker 3: the rest of the world, because alien abductions are happening
Speaker 3: all over the world world. But you know, you think
Speaker 3: about there's there's four hundred million people in the United
Speaker 3: States and what is what is five or six percent
Speaker 3: of that?
Speaker 1: About dred thousand, right, I mean.
Speaker 3: Well, no, it's like twenty million.
Speaker 1: It's more than twenty million. Wow, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: I think I'm going mad. You know.
Speaker 3: The thing that the thing that you have to understand
Speaker 3: is that those are only the people that came forward
Speaker 3: that answered the poll. There's probably a lot more that
Speaker 3: that don't want to talk about it because so horrific.
Speaker 3: You know, the experience is is just unbelievable. You know.
Speaker 3: It's the thing about the thing about you know, the
Speaker 3: UFO phenomenon and the aliens and everything that that you know,
Speaker 3: people talk about the aliens are not our friends. And
Speaker 3: you know, in the research that I've done and the
Speaker 3: books that I've read and the interviews that I've seen, uh,
Speaker 3: it's you know when people talk about any kind of
Speaker 3: contact or experience with these like there. The thing is,
Speaker 3: Robert is we're living in the age of deception. And
Speaker 3: that was why you know, my first two points, like
Speaker 3: you've got to be really careful about you know, what
Speaker 3: you choose to believe and the things that you hear.
Speaker 3: And the aliens are extremely deceptive. I mean, Bud Hopkins
Speaker 3: was was an abduction researcher.
Speaker 2: And I always book witnessed, yeah, the Fortill abduction.
Speaker 1: Of a tall story window by the Grays, you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, that was Linda Cortil in New York. But
Speaker 3: one of the things that he said, and he and
Speaker 3: he interviewed like seven hundred and fifty abductees, and he
Speaker 3: said that the aliens are extraordinarily deceptive and operate in
Speaker 3: a covert manner. There is no doubt about that, he says.
Speaker 3: He also says, we can't trust what the aliens are
Speaker 3: saying to us under any conditions. And this is a
Speaker 3: guy that you know, I mean, if if you're going
Speaker 3: to listen to anybody, I would listen to him because
Speaker 3: of his his experiences with you know, with alien abductees
Speaker 3: and uh and and there's I've got I've got quotes
Speaker 3: by other you know, alien abduction researchers in that and
Speaker 3: they basically say the same thing like you're you're walking
Speaker 3: on very dangerous ground when you're interacting with these so
Speaker 3: called aliens and uh and so you know, the I
Speaker 3: I see a need for solar Warden because you know,
Speaker 3: Earth is being assaulted by these beings and uh and
Speaker 3: and and you know we we literally need to be
Speaker 3: protected from them, you know. I mean the things that
Speaker 3: they do to to you know, these abductees is just
Speaker 3: it's it's unbelievable. I mean, it's you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: the worst horror movie that you could ever watch. Really,
Speaker 3: and these people come back really severely damaged, not just
Speaker 3: physically but emotionally and uh, you know and intellectually. So yeah,
Speaker 3: we we definitely need a secret space program to protect
Speaker 3: us from these beings whatever they are.
Speaker 2: Do you do you think that even goes for like
Speaker 2: what it's so called pleadians, and because it seems like
Speaker 2: some people are having like positive contact too, you know.
Speaker 3: I think that's part of the deception. You know. It's
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, let's let's get them thinking that
Speaker 3: we're good and that we want to help them and everything,
Speaker 3: and then we get them into a position where they
Speaker 3: trust us and they believe us, and then we can
Speaker 3: manipulate them any way we want. Yeah, And that's that's
Speaker 3: the skeptic in me. Like, you know, I'm not just
Speaker 3: you know, taking all of this at face value. I'm
Speaker 3: looking at at what's going on. Like here's here's a
Speaker 3: quote by Carla Turner, doctor Carla Turner. She was a
Speaker 3: uf researcher. She was also an abductee, and she's she
Speaker 3: was murdered. Actually she's she's not agree.
Speaker 1: I was just going to say that I feel like
Speaker 1: she was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is what she says, and I just
Speaker 3: I think that this is is it just puts everything
Speaker 3: kind of in perspective. She says, before we allow ourselves
Speaker 3: to believe in the benevolence of the alien interaction, we
Speaker 3: should ask do enlightened beings need to use the cover
Speaker 3: of night to perform good deeds? Do they need to
Speaker 3: paralyze us and render us helpless to resist? Do angels
Speaker 3: need to steal our fetuses? Do they need to manipulate
Speaker 3: our children's genitals and probe our probe our rectums, our fear, pain,
Speaker 3: and deception consistent with high spiritual motives?
Speaker 1: That's a really good point.
Speaker 3: You know, that's you know, that's that's in a nutshell.
Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, she she did tons of
Speaker 3: research on the alien abduction phenomena, and she was actually
Speaker 3: a participant, a reluctant one, but she experienced herself. So
Speaker 3: you're you're you're getting this quote from a person who's
Speaker 3: been there and done that, and and talk to a
Speaker 3: lot of other people who were there and done that too.
Speaker 3: So uh, you know, I think personally that these quote
Speaker 3: unquote aliens, like I said, they're not our friends and.
Speaker 1: We need.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's proof of the government or the
Speaker 2: military working with aliens? It's to some degree, because you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of times we hear in these military abduction
Speaker 2: cases that like it's like an alien abduction, but there's
Speaker 2: military there. Like Jim Sparks talked about that when he
Speaker 2: was on art Ball, and many other people have talked
Speaker 2: about that too, you know, so it seems to be
Speaker 2: a thing, right, I.
Speaker 3: Think that, yeah. I think that there are factions of
Speaker 3: the US, of the US and other militaries that are
Speaker 3: complicit with these beings and what they're doing. Well. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's the famous story of of UH of President Eisenhower
Speaker 3: UH and his meeting with the aliens at hallim And
Speaker 3: Air Force Base in New Mexico where he gets off
Speaker 3: of Air Force one, walks across the tarmac and enters
Speaker 3: a flying saucer that's parked there and makes a deal
Speaker 3: with the alien entities that that they would they would
Speaker 3: provide technology in exchange for permission to abduct an experiment
Speaker 3: on human beings. And of course he also there's there's
Speaker 3: also the famous story where again Eisenhower met with the
Speaker 3: aliens at what is now Edwards Air Force Base in California,
Speaker 3: you know, and and that that was the big story
Speaker 3: about where he disappeared. He was he was he was
Speaker 3: supposed to be golfing in California, and he disappeared for
Speaker 3: a day and a half or whatever, and everybody was
Speaker 3: concerned of where he was, and they came up with
Speaker 3: the story that he had a toothache and he had
Speaker 3: to go see his dentist, when actually he met with
Speaker 3: these these alien entities at Edward's Air Force Space was
Speaker 3: at that time it's called Mirok Air Force Space. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that I think that there is there is
Speaker 3: a number of factions that are complicit with these with
Speaker 3: these alien beings. And then you have like you have
Speaker 3: what is referred to as the Cabal, which originally started
Speaker 3: out as Majestic twelve, and they grew into what Eisenhower
Speaker 3: called the military industrial complex.
Speaker 2: And I was going to say, I heard I'm friends
Speaker 2: with Loria Eisenhower, you know, and she thinks that like
Speaker 2: her grandfather was like, you know, pretty innocent in signing
Speaker 2: the treaty with the Gray.
Speaker 1: She thinks that it was m J twelve.
Speaker 2: You know, I just want to get her story out
Speaker 2: there because like, you know, I you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying it's one hundred percent, but you know, like it
Speaker 2: could be, you know, because it seemed like Eisenhower did
Speaker 2: want to warn against the military industrial complex. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, without being there, it's hard
Speaker 2: to say, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he saw the potential danger of a
Speaker 3: group that was growing at that time into the military
Speaker 3: industrial complex and that you know, their their whole uh,
Speaker 3: you know, their their whole approach was military based and uh.
Speaker 3: And that's why you see the development of military technology
Speaker 3: being at the at the forefront of technological advancements and uh.
Speaker 3: And so you know, you you see these these different
Speaker 3: wars going on around the world and uh. And somebody
Speaker 3: once described to me as well, that's just you know,
Speaker 3: those wars are just a reason for them to use
Speaker 3: all of their new toysh their new technology. Whether or
Speaker 3: not that's true, I don't know. But you know, Eisenhower
Speaker 3: saw potential danger and he and in his you know,
Speaker 3: final address to the nation, he he, you know, he
Speaker 3: he gave that warning that you know, look out for
Speaker 3: these guys because you know they're they're again they're not
Speaker 3: necessarily your friends. But the thing about this whole, this
Speaker 3: whole UFO phenomenon, the secret Space program and that sort
Speaker 3: of thing is what a lot of researchers refer to
Speaker 3: as high strangeness. And that means that there's stuff out
Speaker 3: there that just does not make sense at all, and
Speaker 3: and there's lots of it within the UFO phenomenon. And
Speaker 3: I mean, I could go on and on and on
Speaker 3: about you know, the different the different aspects that just
Speaker 3: you know, they boggle the mind. They go like, that
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense at all. Yeah, what we've just
Speaker 3: what we've just seen or what we've just read or whatever,
Speaker 3: it makes no sense at all. And and I think
Speaker 3: that's part of the deception that these aliens apply within
Speaker 3: this UFO community is is you know, they they're they're
Speaker 3: trying to to confuse people. And then and then they
Speaker 3: step forward and say, oh, well, you know it's because
Speaker 3: of this or it's because of that, and and what
Speaker 3: it is is it's just a way to manipulate. And
Speaker 3: and again, you know, I come back to my two points, like,
Speaker 3: you've got to be very very careful, you know, it's
Speaker 3: about what you're believing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you, are there any
Speaker 2: do you feel like there any specific events in history
Speaker 2: that you think are tied to Solar wardens activities.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go out on a limb and one
Speaker 3: of the well, I think this was at the end
Speaker 3: of that episode of Hangar one about space weapons. They
Speaker 3: talked about and I can't remember the name of the
Speaker 3: of the town it was. It was in Russia, and
Speaker 3: there was a there was a meteor that was had
Speaker 3: entered the atmosphere and its trajectory was to hit either
Speaker 3: this particular Russian city or close to it and potentially
Speaker 3: cause an awful lot of damage and an awful lot
Speaker 3: of loss of life. And they've they've got video from
Speaker 3: people in the city who are who were recording the
Speaker 3: the approach of this of this meteor, and in one
Speaker 3: of them you can see they do it in slow
Speaker 3: motion and they had to they had to enhance the
Speaker 3: video and everything, but you can see an object coming
Speaker 3: up behind this uh, this meteor, striking it and actually
Speaker 3: going all the way through it. And what that did, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and what that did was that disintegrated the meteor. And
Speaker 3: so even though there was still damage in this Russian city,
Speaker 3: it was minimal. And it's my opinion, and like I said,
Speaker 3: going out on a limb here, it's my opinion that
Speaker 3: that could have possibly been solar warden who uh uh
Speaker 3: targeted and fired on this metior to destroy it before
Speaker 3: it it struck and caused devastating damage. And in my
Speaker 3: first novel, I talk about that, I talk about how
Speaker 3: solar Warden has two primary objectives. The first one is
Speaker 3: to protect the Earth from things like that, like meteor
Speaker 3: strikes and that sort of thing, and also to keep
Speaker 3: space free from any kind of conflict from Earth based governments.
Speaker 3: So you know, you can't fire a missile up into
Speaker 3: space and then have it come back down and strike
Speaker 3: an enemy country kind of thing. They would eliminate that,
Speaker 3: and that's what SDI is Space Defense Initiative, was all about.
Speaker 3: And I think that was a front for solar Warden
Speaker 3: developing a web of satellites that were designed to protect
Speaker 3: the Earth from that sort of thing happening, of course.
Speaker 3: And then the second objective for solar Warden is to
Speaker 3: defend the Earth from from enemies that are that are
Speaker 3: non terrestrial, that are alien enemies. So it's it's you
Speaker 3: know what, I can't say definitively or conclusively that what
Speaker 3: happened in that and Wrestler with that meteor was a
Speaker 3: result of solar ward and protecting them, but it makes
Speaker 3: sense to me. Yeah, I guess that's as as they'll
Speaker 3: go with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's interesting, And what I wanted to do is,
Speaker 2: you know, like in our other interviews, we've just talked
Speaker 2: about the like we've tried to talk about the facts
Speaker 2: of the secret space program, and like I was saying, guys,
Speaker 2: if you haven't seen other interviews with Peter, you can
Speaker 2: watch them on Rumble because they got taken off YouTube
Speaker 2: when my first channel got taken down. But they are
Speaker 2: on Rumble. But we've we've we've basically tried to prove
Speaker 2: the speacret space program. But what I wanted to do is,
Speaker 2: like I have all three of your books, and your
Speaker 2: books are written in a sci fi type fashion, Like
Speaker 2: for people who might be interested in getting your books,
Speaker 2: tell them a little bit about your books and like
Speaker 2: what you've written about and like and yeah, because I
Speaker 2: want people to get your books.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean I've written four books now I'm
Speaker 3: working on book five. This is a six book series
Speaker 3: and so I've published four of them and they're basically
Speaker 3: just about the secret Space program. And there they focus
Speaker 3: on excuse me, an F thirty five pilot by the
Speaker 3: name of Steve Richardson. His call sign is Scarecrow and
Speaker 3: he is this again. You got to remember this goes back.
Speaker 3: That book was first published in twenty twenty, and so
Speaker 3: the United States still had a presence in Afghanistan. And
Speaker 3: this pilot, this Scarecrow, was flying out of Bogroom Air
Speaker 3: Force Base, and he was an F sixteen pilot, but
Speaker 3: he had just recently transitioned to flying F thirty fives.
Speaker 3: And so what happens is he's flying a mission and
Speaker 3: he hasn't he hasn't an encounter with a UFO and
Speaker 3: Tier three B engaging in combat and as a result,
Speaker 3: is uh of their proximity to him. His his plane dies,
Speaker 3: basically loses power and crashes, and he uh, he parachutes out.
Speaker 3: He's injured, and he's laying on the ground expecting to die,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he sees this black triangle
Speaker 3: floating above him with white lights on the three corners
Speaker 3: and a red light in the center. And uh and
Speaker 3: the next thing, he wakes up on a on a
Speaker 3: carrier in space called the Nautilus, and uh, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's run or operated by an organization called Solar Warden.
Speaker 3: Now now Scarecrow, he's uh, he's an ACE pilot. He's
Speaker 3: he's one of the best pilots you know that there
Speaker 3: that there is in the in the US Air Force.
Speaker 3: And uh, so solar Warden UH invites him to to join,
Speaker 3: you know, their organization, and at first he's reluctant. He
Speaker 3: doesn't believe everything that he's seeing. But then Nautilus engages
Speaker 3: in UH combat with with an alien mothership and he
Speaker 3: witnesses first hand. You know, what solar Warden is is
Speaker 3: is fighting and it's very dangerous, and so he decides
Speaker 3: to sign up. And that's that's kind of the I
Speaker 3: don't want to give away anymore.
Speaker 2: It sounds that sounds cool. It sounds like a lot
Speaker 2: of people in my audience would like that. I hope
Speaker 2: you guys get Peter's but that sounds really cool. Peter
Speaker 2: I like that, you know, and and you guys I
Speaker 2: have the books and you know, Peters signed them all
Speaker 2: for me, you know, and stuff, and that was great.
Speaker 2: And you know what I was gonna say was, what
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on UH? David Grush, Jake, Jake Barber,
Speaker 2: and Jason Sands. You know, it's interesting because in the
Speaker 2: case of Jason Sands and Jake Barber, you know, these
Speaker 2: guys are doing like mainstream interviews like Ross Coulthard, and
Speaker 2: they're saying that they've been involved in like you know,
Speaker 2: like like they especially Sands and Barber. You know, I
Speaker 2: think Barber talks about that he was involved in psionic warfare,
Speaker 2: and I think Jason Sands alleges that he was part
Speaker 2: of like almost like a twenty in back program, which
Speaker 2: I find fascinating.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't deal with the twenty in back scenario
Speaker 3: in my books that I use. I use Scarecrow as
Speaker 3: a as a vehicle to introduce the reader to all
Speaker 3: of the technology and everything that's going on because he
Speaker 3: doesn't know anything about it. So he's asking questions, and
Speaker 3: of course they're training him and he's learning, you know,
Speaker 3: as he goes through the through the novels. Again. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm very skeptical about anybody who says that they've been
Speaker 3: involved with either Solar Warden or the secret space program,
Speaker 3: because because their evidence is strictly anecdotal, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: they haven't brought anything back, or they don't have any
Speaker 3: you know, any like video or or any kind of
Speaker 3: of evidence, you know, documentary evidence, any anything like that.
Speaker 3: It's just a story, and so you kind of have
Speaker 3: to be very wary of that because anybody can make
Speaker 3: up a story. I mean, I've written four novels and
Speaker 3: it's just a story. But I don't present it as truth,
Speaker 3: and I don't present like, I'm not scarecrow, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm the author and I'm writing this story,
Speaker 3: and I'm presenting it as that this is just a story.
Speaker 3: But it's based on all of this research that I've done,
Speaker 3: and I've incorporated that research into the story. So I
Speaker 3: personally believe that solar Warden is real. And I'm going
Speaker 3: out on a limb by saying that, but based on
Speaker 3: the research that I've done, I can see evidence that
Speaker 3: it is real. And there are other researchers, you know,
Speaker 3: like much more important than I am who agree with me,
Speaker 3: you know, and they've looked at the research and they've
Speaker 3: come to that conclusion as well. So again, you know,
Speaker 3: the Corey Goods and the other guys, Randy Kramer's and
Speaker 3: those those guys. Sorry I don't mean to name names,
Speaker 3: but but again, all they the only evidence they have
Speaker 3: is is anecdotal and so I can only go so
Speaker 3: far with that.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, but it seems like to me, though,
Speaker 2: like I'm not you know, it seems like they wouldn't
Speaker 2: if they wanted to keep this under wraps. They wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to give out any they wouldn't want anybody getting
Speaker 2: any evidence of it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: That's that's the tough part, because like you know, they
Speaker 2: would definitely want to keep if they you know, to
Speaker 2: keep it under wraps, to keep it, like you know,
Speaker 2: and and that's what it seems like they're doing. Going
Speaker 2: back to what Richard Dolan said, if it is a
Speaker 2: breakaway civilization, which it seems like it is, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's so it's so it's so tricky, you know,
Speaker 2: it really is.
Speaker 1: It's a tricky subject.
Speaker 2: It really I'm fascinated by it though, you know, I
Speaker 2: really am.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and I I am too, Robert. And but
Speaker 3: the thing is is this entire you know, UFO phenomenon
Speaker 3: is just a literal mine field, and you have to
Speaker 3: be very careful where you step.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, so, you.
Speaker 3: Know, and that's and that's the the approach that I've
Speaker 3: taken is that I've I've tried to follow the you know,
Speaker 3: my two my two original points is, you know, don't
Speaker 3: don't believe everything everybody tells you. And and you know,
Speaker 3: I mean there I want to believe certain things, but
Speaker 3: I have to stop myself and go, await a second.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah you can, you can believe that, but
Speaker 3: what is your what is your basis of evidence? And
Speaker 3: so I try to remain you know, objective, and I
Speaker 3: and and I try to remain skeptical. And it's it's
Speaker 3: it stood me in good stead because you know, there's
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things out there that I've that
Speaker 3: I've after I've done the research and I've I've drawn
Speaker 3: my conclusion. I go, not, you know, that doesn't work
Speaker 3: for me, and uh, and then I find out later
Speaker 3: on that you know, that it was that it was
Speaker 3: something that was made up, or it was something that
Speaker 3: was contrived or or whatever. And and so I've gone, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what, it was a good thing that I
Speaker 3: that I you know, took a hard look at that. Uh.
Speaker 3: And and that's what you have to do. You can't
Speaker 3: just go out, I want to believe in aliens, Well
Speaker 3: what's your evidence?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: I mean, you can believe, you can believe in in
Speaker 3: pink you know, in pink unicorns and that sort of thing,
Speaker 3: but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's true. And so,
Speaker 3: you know, especially with this with this uh, this whole phenomenon.
Speaker 3: You have to be very very careful.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think about time travel technology?
Speaker 2: Like, you know, like we hear stuff about the chronavisor
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and then we hear about the
Speaker 2: uh the looking glass device, and we hear that, you know,
Speaker 2: like you know that the government may have portal technology
Speaker 2: or teleportation and stuff like which could be linked to
Speaker 2: time travel. Like what do you feel about what do
Speaker 2: you feel about the fact that, like the possibility of
Speaker 2: time travel technology.
Speaker 1: Do you think that could be there's something to that or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there could be. I mean it's again, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's one of those subjects that that you have to
Speaker 3: be very careful with. And I have time travel in
Speaker 3: my novels. So if you're a proponent of time travel scenarios,
Speaker 3: then then you'll like book two and book three. Uh
Speaker 3: So I think that there's a there's a possibility. I
Speaker 3: mean when you look at the technology that the Secret
Speaker 3: Space Program purports to have, you know that I've seen
Speaker 3: in my research, like I mentioned earlier, cloaking technology, anti gravity, propulsion,
Speaker 3: directed energy weapons, you know, all of these things. There
Speaker 3: is a possibility that they may have developed some form
Speaker 3: of time travel. But again, I'm not going to say
Speaker 3: definitively all. All I will say is that it's a
Speaker 3: definite possibility. Yeah, and I'll leave it at that. I just,
Speaker 3: you know, i'd have to do more research. And I'm
Speaker 3: doing research all the time, you know, and discovering new
Speaker 3: things and going wow, I didn't see that before.
Speaker 1: You know, I know, it's interesting, right.
Speaker 2: It seems like something comes up all the time. It's uh, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: we have about a couple of minutes off. Is there anything
Speaker 2: else you wanted to cover that we might have not
Speaker 2: covered today?
Speaker 3: Like, you know, I guess the only thing I'd want
Speaker 3: to say is that, you know, with book four, Uh,
Speaker 3: here's here's the cover of book four, get it in
Speaker 3: the center. And anyhow, in book four, what I do
Speaker 3: is is, uh, I focus more on the paranormal aspect
Speaker 3: of the UFO phenomenon. Now. I have a paranormal element
Speaker 3: in all the first three novels, but in novel number four,
Speaker 3: I kind of, you know, unleash the chain and just
Speaker 3: let it, let it go kind of thing. Uh. And
Speaker 3: the reason why is because the UFO phenomenon in its
Speaker 3: entirety contains an awful lot of paranormal elements and uh.
Speaker 3: And so what I try and do in book four
Speaker 3: is I try and introduce that in a greater way
Speaker 3: and and also provide a different element to the conflict
Speaker 3: that solar Warden is engaging in with the aliens.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: It's not just physical. There's a paranormal, spiritual element to it.
Speaker 3: And uh. And that's what I've discovered in in in
Speaker 3: my research, a lot of UFO researchers, going all the
Speaker 3: way back to jail and Heinek and and Jacques Vallet
Speaker 3: and John Keel, you know, they all talk about the
Speaker 3: fact that the UFO phenomenon uh is demonic in nature.
Speaker 3: And that's their word, not mine. And so what I
Speaker 3: try and do is I try and incorporate that in
Speaker 3: a much greater way in book four. So if if
Speaker 3: you're you know, if that's something that interests you, then
Speaker 3: you know, read the first three books and then read
Speaker 3: book four and you'll love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I guess that's all I want to say.
Speaker 2: That's awesome and and and uh, how can how can
Speaker 2: how can people get the books? Like are they on
Speaker 2: Amazon or do they have to go directly to your website.
Speaker 3: Or no, well they can go to my website, and
Speaker 3: I've got all of the links to the various retailers
Speaker 3: and they can just click on whichever one they want
Speaker 3: to use, including the publisher. If you buy the book
Speaker 3: directly from the publisher, I get fifty whereas with Amazon,
Speaker 3: I get I think like ten percent or something. But
Speaker 3: you know whatever, whatever you're comfortable working with. You know,
Speaker 3: books a million of Barnes and Noble, All of the
Speaker 3: links are on the on the website underneath each book.
Speaker 1: Wait, Peter, you cut out there? How did you say that?
Speaker 2: So if they ordered directly from you, you get fifty percent.
Speaker 2: But if they order because I you your screen FROs
Speaker 2: That's why I said, are you still there?
Speaker 1: Because it's not your fault. But but how do people
Speaker 1: do that? So if they order from you, you get filmed.
Speaker 1: If they order from Amazon, it's only ten percent.
Speaker 3: If they ordered directly from the publisher, and there's a
Speaker 3: link on my website along with you know, all of
Speaker 3: the other book links. If they order directly from the publisher,
Speaker 3: I get fifty percent of the costs of the book.
Speaker 3: If you order from Amazon or Barnes and Noble or whatever,
Speaker 3: I only get ten percent. But you know what, if
Speaker 3: you're comfortable ordering from Amazon, then go for it or
Speaker 3: Barnes and Noble or Books a Million or any of
Speaker 3: the other retailers. All of the links are up on
Speaker 3: my website for each book. So when you when you
Speaker 3: scroll down or you go to the page with with
Speaker 3: that particular book, underneath the picture of the of the
Speaker 3: cover are all of those little mini boxes and you
Speaker 3: just click on one, you know, Amazon or Barnes and
Speaker 3: Noble or whatever, and that'll take you directly to them
Speaker 3: and you can order the book from them. So try
Speaker 3: and make it as easy as possible for everybody, and
Speaker 3: and you know, and give them whatever choice that they want.
Speaker 1: So and what's the name of the publisher.
Speaker 3: Publisher is book Baby.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that way people know when they go to order,
Speaker 2: they order from book Baby, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh yeah, this was awesome.
Speaker 2: Peter, Well, thank you so much, and uh yeah, I'd
Speaker 2: love to have you back on again as your research continues.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, thank.
Speaker 2: You so much for doing this, especially early, because I
Speaker 2: know it's early here on the East coast. I don't
Speaker 2: know where you're at, but I'm on the east coast
Speaker 2: of Pittsburgh. I'm on Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, so it's kind of
Speaker 2: you know, early here, so I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I'm in Alberta, Canada.
Speaker 1: So are you three hours behind? Is at eight am? There?
Speaker 3: No, No, it's two hours behind. I'm Mountain standard time,
Speaker 3: your Eastern time. You're you're two hours ahead of us.
Speaker 3: So no, I'm I'm like I said, I'm honored to
Speaker 3: be on your podcast, and I always enjoy our conversations. Uh,
Speaker 3: this is this, This is great for me. I really
Speaker 3: I really appreciate you having me on. So thank you
Speaker 3: very much.
Speaker 2: All right, and thank you Peter, and I'll see you
Speaker 2: guys later tonight. I have an interview with Joan Widen.
Speaker 2: She's going to do some energy clearings for you guys
Speaker 2: tonight at six pm Eastern. She hasn't verified yet, but
Speaker 2: I think she's gonna. She usually verifies late anyway, so
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go ahead and make the link and
Speaker 2: then if she decides to uh not do it, then
Speaker 2: you know, well then we'll.
Speaker 1: Just cancel it.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think that's tonight, guys, So whoever's
Speaker 2: watching this, if you you want to tune in to
Speaker 2: night at six pm Eastern, I'll be live again and
Speaker 2: thank you, get Peter and thank you everybody, and have
Speaker 2: a good night everyone, take care.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Robert