WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.720 Thanks for doing this. 2 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:05.759 By the way, we're live now it should be playing 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:20.839 the intro and hey, hey guys, welcome back to another 4 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:23.399 episode of the Typical Skeptic Podcast. I'm really excited to 5 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:26.000 have my guests back today. Today I have with me 6 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:29.120 back Peter Fuller. And you know we've done two or 7 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:31.239 three shows in the past. But you know, the first 8 00:00:31.280 --> 00:00:33.960 two interviews got taken down off YouTube because not because 9 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.600 of anything bad, but I mean because my channel or 10 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:39.240 whatever got taken down. So you know, I wrote a 11 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:41.840 little bourber about today. Welcome back to the Typical Skeptic 12 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:45.240 Podcast and episode number nineteen thirty five. We dive deep 13 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:47.560 into the heart of the secret space program with acclaimed 14 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:49.359 author Peter Fuller, creator of. 15 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:50.679 The solar Warden series. 16 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:55.359 Peter's working sports the hidden truth behind our breakaway civilizations, COVID, 17 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:58.640 interstellar missions, and humanity is growing an ongoing cosmic war. 18 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:01.880 With decades of research and storytelling, Peter brings face to 19 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:04.920 face with reality of solar ward and a black budget 20 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:08.000 space fleet guarding the Earth. Don't miss this mind expanding 21 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.920 episode as we unravel the mysteries of our intergalactic shadow 22 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:12.959 history and a little bit more about my guest. 23 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:13.760 Peter Fuller is. 24 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:17.319 A military historian and he's also the visionary author behind 25 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:20.680 the Solar Warden sci fi series, a gripping saga rooted 26 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:23.519 in real world theories about the secret space program a 27 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:28.640 truth secret Heart. Peter draws from whistleblower testimony, military insider reports, 28 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:31.719 and classified space operations to weave a narrative that blurs 29 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:35.000 the line between fiction and reality. His series explores the 30 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:38.400 covert Solar Warden Fleet, an alleged off world defense sports 31 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:41.359 task with protecting humanity from extraterrestrial threats. 32 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:42.599 You can learn more. 33 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:47.519 About it at www www dot solar dash Warden dot com. 34 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:49.359 And I'd like to give him a big, warm welcome 35 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:51.719 back to the show, Peter, thanks so much for coming 36 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:52.239 back on Man. 37 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:55.680 How are you. Oh, I'm good, and thanks for having me. 38 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:58.079 It's real honor to be on your podcast. Robert. 39 00:01:58.719 --> 00:02:01.840 Yeah, thanks, Yeah, I was just looking at the books 40 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:03.920 again last night. I remember you sent me the books 41 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:07.159 and uh, they're all so good. Like but wait, tell 42 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.960 the audience, like, what made you interested in this topic, 43 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:13.039 like as compared to just regular uthology. 44 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:17.280 Well, uh, yeah, it's it's a bit of a journey. 45 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:24.840 But what happened was I was sorry, I'm just trying 46 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:29.879 to organize my thoughts here. Initially, I had some some 47 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:34.479 information that kind of dropped into my lap from from 48 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:40.560 whistleblowers about a program that was going on within the 49 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:45.039 military that was it was black budget and it was 50 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:49.840 top secret and and uh so it kind of intrigued me. 51 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:52.719 And then I saw a couple of programs on television 52 00:02:54.159 --> 00:03:00.479 excuse me, they're my throat here. One was uh with 53 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:06.879 Richard Saraht and he did an episode on his program 54 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:11.919 about the secret space program, and that intrigued me. And 55 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:15.439 then what really kind of triggered it was in twenty fifteen, 56 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:19.560 I was watching a program called Hangar one the UFO Files, 57 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:25.120 and they did an episode called Space Weapons and they 58 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:30.400 talked specifically about Solar Warden. They went into some pretty 59 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:35.560 detailed information about the TR three B And as I 60 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:37.960 was watching that program, I thought, you know what, this 61 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:42.120 would make a great story. So I started writing, and 62 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:46.039 I started, you know, like, I've been interested in UFOs 63 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:48.120 pretty much my whole life. I had a couple of 64 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:52.840 minor experiences where I saw some UFOs when I was younger, 65 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.759 and so that intrigued me, and I started reading books 66 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:58.879 and you know, drove the librarian at my school crazy 67 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:03.680 because I kept asking for these weird books. But so 68 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:06.120 it's it's been kind of a long journey for me 69 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:10.159 with all of this. And then in twenty fifteen, as 70 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:13.840 I said, I started writing, and I wrote the manuscript 71 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:17.040 for the first novel, and when I finished it, the 72 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:21.240 ideas continue to flow. So I wrote the manuscript for 73 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:26.839 the second book, and the third book and most of 74 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:31.839 the fourth book. But so then what I did was 75 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:35.439 I published book one and it won a couple of 76 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:41.399 awards and was you know, it was well received, and 77 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:44.319 so I've just kind of gone from there. But the 78 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:48.759 thing is, I've done a lot of research on this topic, 79 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:51.959 you know, the Secret Space Program and of course everything 80 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:57.240 that it involves, and so you know, not just on 81 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:01.519 the internet, but you know know, I've I've read a 82 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:05.199 lot of books, I've seen you know, videos and interviews 83 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:10.040 by people. I've talked to a couple of whistleblowers personally 84 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.319 that gave me some information that I was able to 85 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:17.759 incorporate in my stories. So that's that's sort of the 86 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:22.240 you know, the the journey in a nutshell that's amazing. 87 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:24.040 And then I was wondering, like what you thought of 88 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:26.879 the whole Corey Good fiasco because like, you know, like 89 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:29.240 you know, he's trying to say that he came up 90 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:31.680 with the term secrets based program, which we know that's 91 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:32.160 not true. 92 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:33.639 I don't think he did, you. 93 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:35.120 Know, I think there were you know, like there's people 94 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:38.399 like Richard Dolan and uh, you know, I'm trying to 95 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.879 think of that guy's name who comes on Richard Dolan, 96 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:43.680 he talked they both talk about the secrets based program. 97 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:48.319 Joseph Powell or no, not Joseph. I'm trying to think 98 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:51.519 of his name. He's a uh, he's a well known author. 99 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:53.759 He's kind of like friends, you know, and him and 100 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:56.800 Richard Dolan, I know they talk about it as far 101 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:58.480 as like big name researchers that. 102 00:05:58.519 --> 00:05:59.079 Talk about it. 103 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:01.120 But like, did you did you think there was a 104 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:03.680 lot of blowback from the court, because for example, Darcy 105 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:06.279 were just made a movie called Dark Alliance where he 106 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:08.720 talks about the whole Corey Good fiasco and the whole 107 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:10.000 blow up of guy at TV. 108 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:11.600 What did you think of that? 109 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:13.360 And then what do you think about I mean, like, 110 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:15.560 I mean, it's interesting though that there's a lot of 111 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:19.160 other experiences coming out saying that they've even been involved 112 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:23.120 in these programs and stuff, you know, and I entertain that, 113 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:24.800 you know, I have a lot of them on because 114 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:27.879 I believe people are going through something. So I want 115 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:30.399 people to be able to tell their story. But like, 116 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:34.319 what did you have any thoughts about what happened with 117 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:35.519 Corey Good in particular? 118 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:41.600 Well, I like to begin these podcasts by making two points. 119 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:46.240 My first point is you have to be very careful. 120 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.319 You don't believe everything that you see or read or hear. 121 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:55.560 You have to be a skeptic, right and you and 122 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:58.199 so you know you you look at this information and 123 00:06:58.240 --> 00:06:59.959 what you need to do is do your own homework. 124 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:03.079 I mean, don't just take anything at face value and 125 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.879 don't believe you know everything that somebody just tells you. 126 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:10.319 And then my second point is that people tend to 127 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:14.399 believe what they want to believe, and it's it's imperative 128 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:17.480 again that you remain skeptical and that you remain objective. 129 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.759 You don't park your brain at the door. You look 130 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:23.439 into this yourself. I mean, be your own researcher and 131 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:27.120 do your own homework and come to your own conclusions 132 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.920 and don't just parrot what other people say. Now, with 133 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:39.199 regards to Corey Good, you know, I guess, you know, 134 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.199 the bottom line for me is that I have a 135 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:47.800 difficult time accepting what he says as being factual. And 136 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:50.480 you know, and one of the main reasons is, I mean, 137 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:54.600 I've done a ton of research and I've done my homework, 138 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:57.480 you know, and I incorporate that research in my novels. 139 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:00.920 And so when somebody says, well, you know, you said thus, 140 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:03.399 and so you know, how do you know that that's 141 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:06.680 that that's true. Well, if I say that it's true, 142 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:10.040 then it's because I've done the research and I've come 143 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.519 to the conclusion, you know. And you don't just take 144 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:17.120 you know, one source, as you know, as your evidence 145 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:20.920 for whatever you're you're promoting. You have two or three 146 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:25.639 or four sources that corroborate each other. And that's that's 147 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:30.000 what good research does. With Corey Good, one of the 148 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:34.039 biggest problems I have with him is that he doesn't 149 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:38.799 have any evidence to back up what he's saying. Yeah, 150 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:42.039 all of his all of his evidence is strictly antle. 151 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:44.639 It's just you know, he's just telling me the story. 152 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.679 And so, you know, with with researchers like Richard Dolan. 153 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:52.360 I mean you mentioned that Corey is claiming that, you 154 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.440 know that he coined the phrase solar Warden or or 155 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:00.559 a secret space program or whatever. But Richard Dolan actually 156 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:05.440 coined the phrase breakaway civilization, which he describes the Secret 157 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:10.000 Space Program as being. And I mean that's documented, right, 158 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:14.279 He coined that in his book UFOs and the National 159 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:18.919 Security State, the first one they're actually too But you know, 160 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:24.279 so that's documented. But for somebody like Corey Good and 161 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:29.159 those who sort of fall into his category, again, all 162 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:33.399 of their evidence is anecdotal. So I have a great 163 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.960 big question mark with regards to what they say. 164 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.399 So, yeah, and now what do you think why do 165 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.960 you think going to coins the like solar Warden or 166 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:47.679 the Secret Space Program as a breakaway civilization? Is it 167 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.639 because they've surpassed the amount of technology that we will 168 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:55.360 ever have. They're not telling us about it. They seem to, 169 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:58.519 you know, act on their own accord. And do you 170 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.840 think they have any connections Earth programs like like the 171 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:03.960 CIA and stuff like that. 172 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:07.360 Yeah, I think there. I think there are still connections 173 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:12.120 with the Secret Space Program and uh, you know, governments 174 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:15.559 and government agencies on Earth. I think the reason why 175 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:19.919 Richard Dolan calls the secret space program a breakaway civilization 176 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:28.720 is because they've moved beyond the word sort of beyond 177 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.919 the authority of you know, the governments of the Earth 178 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:36.120 and the and the institutions that that you know, that 179 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.120 they kind of grew out of, and so they've become 180 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:43.919 their own sort of government, their own civilization. They no 181 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:49.840 longer rely or answer to the governments or the institutions 182 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:53.679 on Earth, even though I still believe, I do believe 183 00:10:53.720 --> 00:11:00.039 that they still you know, use or utilize you know, 184 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:04.120 government uh, you know, government institutions or whatever you want 185 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:08.759 to call them, uh, you know, for their uh you know, 186 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:11.919 for their for their technology. I mean, their technology is 187 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:15.639 basically their own. They it's it's it's locked up in 188 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:18.879 these in these secret programs and uh and it's not 189 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:23.480 available to you know, the the regular governments or or 190 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:27.200 you know, any of the the large corporations or whatever. 191 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:30.039 Even though I think that there are still corporations on 192 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:34.600 Earth that are producing their their hardware and their infrastructure. 193 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:41.039 But it's case in point. There's just let me get 194 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.639 a book here, and I want to quote something. Ah, 195 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:44.679 where is it here? 196 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:45.120 It is. 197 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:51.639 This is secrets let's see if you can see it, 198 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:56.080 Secrets of Anti Gravity Propulsion. It's written by a physicist 199 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:01.360 called Paul of Violet. And this this is what this 200 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:04.240 is kind of a case in point with regards to 201 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:08.559 you know, what we're talking about here. But he says, 202 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:14.000 he says that in October two thousand and seven, I 203 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:18.039 heard from a reliable US government source that Boeing recently 204 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:23.799 completed a classified electrogravitics that's anti gravity electrogravitics propulsion project 205 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:28.000 for the military that had certain novel features. The technology 206 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:30.639 worked so well that they felt it could be a 207 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:34.759 fantastic benefit if used on their commercial jet airliners. Now 208 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:40.799 this is Boeing's that's making the statement. And they reportedly 209 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:46.000 applied for declassification of the invention for commercial use, but 210 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:51.759 they were denied permission because the government institution or the 211 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:55.559 government program that had had employed them to work on 212 00:12:55.600 --> 00:13:00.320 this anti gravity program they said, no, it's not for 213 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:06.279 general consumption, it's for our use only. And so you know, 214 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:09.519 they've they've got all of these these technologies locked up 215 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:13.639 in their black projects and they're and they're they're just 216 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.360 not allowing the general public. I mean it would, it 217 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:21.240 would revolutionize our society. But I think the bottom line 218 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.960 comes down to the fact that if it gets into 219 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:30.679 the public sphere, then anybody has access to that technology, 220 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:37.919 including China, Russia, you know, Iran. I mean, so what 221 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:40.120 they're doing is they've kept it locked up because they 222 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.399 don't want anyone else to have it. And this was 223 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:47.519 the problem with the atomic bomb program at the end 224 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:51.559 of the the Second World War, the Manhattan Project, they 225 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:54.360 kept it secret. They had fifty thousand people working on 226 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:58.039 that project, yet they kept it secret. And it was 227 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:02.039 I can't remember his name, but Tom one Man decided 228 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.840 that no one nation should have this technology, it's atomic 229 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.559 bomb technology. So he turned around and sold it, committed 230 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:13.600 treason and sold it to the Russians. And that's how 231 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:16.519 the the genie got out of the bottle. So they're 232 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:22.600 being extremely careful with this this technology that they have 233 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:24.879 and that they're using to make I get a question 234 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:27.159 about Yeah, go ahead. 235 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:29.960 This is really important and I don't want to forget. 236 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:31.120 That's why I didn't mean to interrupt you. 237 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:31.519 I'm sorry. 238 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:35.840 I just I Michael Sala. I like Michael sala you know, 239 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:40.000 I really do. But he's he's saying that maybe China 240 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:42.720 has a secret space program, that Rush has a secret 241 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.279 space program, and then we know, like Hi'm a shed 242 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:50.080 from the Israeli space says that you know, he's talked 243 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:52.720 about you know what I'm saying is like people are 244 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:54.679 saying that maybe some other people. 245 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.039 Have secret space rooms. And we know there's been UFO. 246 00:14:57.840 --> 00:15:00.240 Crashes all over the world, right, so I you know, 247 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.200 Michael Schratt talks about that that it's a worldwide thing, 248 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:05.600 that there's you know, so what do you think the 249 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:08.559 chances are that this is like a multi government thing, 250 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:12.080 but may or do you think maybe everybody gets along 251 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:14.360 out in the space or something like, but like, you know, 252 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:16.679 they have problems here on Earth, like I don't know, 253 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:18.240 you know, it's it's interesting. 254 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:21.080 Well it's it's the old the enemy of my enemy 255 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:24.279 is my friend, right, and so if Earth is threatened 256 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:31.360 by a malevolent entity, then you know there's there is 257 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.639 the there's a good chance that nations will will collaborate 258 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.320 in order to protect themselves and each other from this 259 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:44.559 this threat. History has shown that that's not necessarily the case. 260 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:48.759 When the Europeans landed in North America, the Indians didn't 261 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.120 combine to resist them. What they did was they went 262 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:53.960 to them and they said, look it, if you help 263 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:57.120 us eliminate our enemy over here, then we'll be your 264 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:00.000 friends kind of thing, and that happened the numerous case. 265 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:04.759 But I in my research, I have heard hints of 266 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:09.039 Russia having a secret space program in the sense that 267 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:15.039 it's collaborated with Solar Warden and that there are bases 268 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:21.840 in Russia like Abustagar and others that are associated with 269 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:28.679 the secret space program. China, it's quite possible. I mean, 270 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:32.679 they're really pushing forward with space exploration. They sent a 271 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:36.159 probe to the Moon. I know that there's talk of 272 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.840 China going to Mars, but you know that that may 273 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:42.480 all just be smoking mirrors like it is, like NASA 274 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:47.080 is just a big front to kind of like a 275 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:54.679 smoke screen to to get people to look away from, 276 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:58.320 you know, the what the secret Space program is doing. 277 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:02.039 So it's like misdirection. So they're watching the Saturn rockets 278 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:05.039 go up into space while the secret space program is 279 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.200 building up you know this or that or the other thing, 280 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:10.480 you know, on the Moon or on Mars or whatever. 281 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:12.640 So you know, that's a good point. 282 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:13.920 I was going to ask you about that because I 283 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.200 don't know if you saw this, but like Demi Lovado 284 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:18.720 and like five other women, I think they put like 285 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:22.200 a teacher, like you know, like and and this is crazy. 286 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:24.480 This is what I mean about NASA, Like, you know, 287 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:27.000 I think NASA is totally bullshitting with some of the 288 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:29.680 stuff they do. They said they sent those women to space. 289 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:31.880 I said, well, doesn't it I said last night I 290 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:34.240 was on someone else's podcast. I said, doesn't it take 291 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:36.720 like thirty years to become an astronaut? Like don't you 292 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:39.119 need to know like certain things and how to be 293 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:42.519 anti gravitical in space and stuff like. I think those women, 294 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:44.440 if they really would have went to space, they would 295 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:46.839 have had to train for a while. And also what 296 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:49.039 I was thinking is if those women really went to space, 297 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:52.039 they would have saw the Secret Space Program operations up there, 298 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:55.799 you know, like they would the Secret Space Program is 299 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:57.960 not just going to hide, you know, because they know 300 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:01.640 that Earthlings are coming up to space. Like and thought 301 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:03.839 I also thought, like why now all of a sudden, 302 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.480 like they haven't. I mean, they send people they say 303 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.599 the International Space Station, but I don't know, it's all 304 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:11.920 so strange. And then you know, they say we haven't 305 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.000 been back to the moon since nineteen sixty eight. Meanwhile, 306 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:18.200 in nineteen sixty eight, we had like computers that are 307 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.240 less powerful than our phones. Now you know what I mean, 308 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:25.200 Like we have phones that are more powerful than that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 309 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:28.279 So it's a weird conundrum with NASA and like what 310 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:32.279 technology they're actually showing to the public and what NASA 311 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:35.039 is portraying is what is real and what's not? 312 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:36.400 Would you agree with that? 313 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:45.400 Yeah, I think that when you're dealing with an organization, 314 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:50.720 if you will, as sophisticated and as technologically advanced as 315 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:54.440 a secret space program. I mean. The thing is is 316 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:57.119 these ladies just went into low Earth orbit. You know, 317 00:18:57.200 --> 00:19:00.359 it was like when William Shatner went up, It didn't 318 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:02.680 actually go into space. They were just kind of at 319 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:05.480 the you know, the the upper edge of the atmosphere, 320 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.640 so you know, it was it was far enough up 321 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:10.319 for them to get weightless, but that was it. 322 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:11.519 Uh. 323 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:15.279 And it's yeah, with regards to training, well, you know, 324 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.480 Bill Shatner didn't have that much training either, So so 325 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.640 what they're doing is they're just kind of taking a 326 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:27.079 you know, just a sort of a quick trip up, 327 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:29.119 you know, like I said, into lower Thurbit and then 328 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:34.319 back again. And I just I just saw this this 329 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:36.680 article where they talked about the fact that the monkey 330 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:39.440 that they sent up in the early nineteen sixties had 331 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:42.359 more training than than these ladies did when they went up. 332 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:45.839 And uh, you know, which is which is kind of 333 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:48.759 kind of funny. Now I think that it was just 334 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:51.599 some kind of a gimmick, to be honest with you. 335 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:55.480 I mean, you know, why send five women up into space? Yeah, 336 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:59.039 for what reason? And and again you know, no training. 337 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:01.200 So all they did was they just went up, they 338 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:04.559 cruised for a bit, and they came back down again, uh, 339 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:07.640 which which requires very little, if any training. I mean, 340 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:11.720 they're talking about doing these these vacation trips again into 341 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:14.759 low Earth orbit, you know. And anybody can you know, 342 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:17.599 for the right amount of money, anybody can jump on 343 00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:22.960 this this rocket and and and take this trip. In 344 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:28.039 my in my novel, in book four of my novel, 345 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:31.799 I talk about the fact that the Secret Space Program 346 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:35.519 has what they call a deep space platform, which is 347 00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:38.680 just another name for a space station, and they have 348 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:42.200 it in Earth orbit. And in order to avoid now again, 349 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:45.559 they have they have technology like cloaking technology, so they 350 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:50.359 can literally hide any assets that they have from uh 351 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:54.119 you know, anybody you know looking for them or or 352 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:58.920 even accidentally, you know, discovering them. But in in my 353 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:02.400 in my novel, I have that that deep space platform 354 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:05.400 on the opposite side of the Earth from the International 355 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:11.359 Space Station, So the is S can't see them, right 356 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:17.039 because they're they're they're in geosync orbit and and they're there, 357 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:20.319 they're opposite of the is S s, so they're never 358 00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:23.359 going to see them. And and again you know, you 359 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:27.920 have you have their spacecraft that travels from Earth to 360 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:32.319 the Moon and beyond, and uh, you know, as they're 361 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:35.799 as they're exiting the atmosphere and headed out into space, 362 00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:38.880 again they're cloaked, so nobody can see them. 363 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:42.720 You mean your three b's and stuff or whatever we're using. 364 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:45.880 And I think it's the higher versions of the tr now, right, 365 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:48.839 like they literally have like yeah, right. 366 00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:52.079 Well, you know, they've had this technology for a very 367 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:57.440 long time. And one whistleblower that I spoke to, his 368 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:03.000 father was a forensic accountant for the for the United 369 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:08.000 States Army, and that meant that he had the highest 370 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:12.079 he had the highest clearance above top secret, and he 371 00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:15.480 could go on to any military US military base anywhere 372 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:18.119 in the world and open their books and look at 373 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:21.680 their accounts. And after he was and of course he 374 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:25.839 had to sign serious non disclosure agreements. But after he 375 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:30.039 was retired, one evening, this this friend of mine, who 376 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:34.200 is this whistleblower. Uh He and his three brothers were 377 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:38.480 sitting out on the front porch with their dad, the 378 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:41.839 forensic account for the for the United States Armed Forces. 379 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:44.920 And dad had a few too many beers and and 380 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:47.400 it kind of loosened his tongue and he started telling 381 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:51.160 them about these things that that that the United States 382 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:56.400 uh uh military had because he'd seen that, he'd seen 383 00:22:56.440 --> 00:22:59.000 the accounts, he'd seen the documents. And this is you've 384 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:02.680 got to remember, this is in the mid nineteen sixties 385 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:06.200 that he's telling this story. And he's saying that, you know, 386 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:11.400 they already had an electromagnetic shield, you know, like in 387 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.160 Star Trek shields up kind of thing. And so this 388 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:17.480 is in the mid nineteen sixties, and they were testing 389 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:22.119 it and it protected They had it mounted on a 390 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:25.200 tank and it protected the tank from every weapon that 391 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:27.960 they fired against it. Now, how do I know that 392 00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:31.079 this is true and not just you know, somebody sort 393 00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:33.720 of you know, making up a story a number of things. 394 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:37.160 Won he said they had a problem with it. They 395 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:40.359 couldn't figure out how to get the shield, the electromagnetic 396 00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:44.319 shield to extend underneath the tank so the tank could 397 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:47.240 actually be taken out by a simple landmine. And another 398 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:51.079 thing he said, He said the shield generator was almost 399 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:53.799 as large as the tank and had to be hauled 400 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:57.480 behind it in a trailer. And you don't, you know, 401 00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.799 you don't make up stuff like this. This is this 402 00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:04.640 is stuff that you've actually seen. The interesting thing is 403 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:06.279 is that they may not have been able to get 404 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:10.400 that electromagnetic shield underneath the tank, but if you put that, 405 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:13.880 you mount that shield generator on an aircraft, and you 406 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:16.799 have a three hundred and sixty degree bubble of protection. 407 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:20.839 Now remember this is in the mid nineteen sixties, So 408 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:24.400 what do you think that they have now sixty you know, 409 00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:28.799 sixty years later. I mean, they weren't just they weren't 410 00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:30.880 just sitting on this technology and going, Okay, we got 411 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:32.680 it now, we don't need to do anything else with it. 412 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.839 They've been working on it and developing, developing it and 413 00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:39.200 improving it since that time. And he told stories about 414 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:40.960 other things, and then he said, boys, I shouldn't be 415 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.119 telling you this, and they were saying, Dad, Dad, no, 416 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:44.880 tell us more, tell us more. We want to hear more. 417 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.039 And he told, you know, there are other things that 418 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:50.839 he told about. You know, what they had back then, 419 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:54.359 like they had they had a ray gun that was 420 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.920 you know, like like Captain Kirk's phaser was a handheld 421 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:05.279 directed energy weapon and he said, you know, the only 422 00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:08.480 problem with it was that one unit would cost about 423 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:11.720 a million dollars in nineteen sixty five money in order 424 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:15.559 to produce, so it wasn't practical for them to put 425 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:19.000 it into general production. But that was sixty years ago. 426 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:23.200 What do you think they have now, you know, I mean, 427 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:26.599 I'm sure that they perfected that, and they're they're using 428 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:32.359 these weapons in whatever conflict they're engaged in. So, you know, 429 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:37.400 it's it's it's interesting that that, you know, the technology 430 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:42.759 never remained static, especially military technology. It's always improving. 431 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:49.319 Yeah, I always going to say. 432 00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:48.559 You know, they even say they have V two K, 433 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:51.079 which is a voice to skull technology, and they said 434 00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:53.640 that's what they used in the Iraq War, you know, 435 00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:55.599 to like I don't know if you've ever heard of this, 436 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:58.160 but you know, these people say they're targeted by the government. 437 00:25:58.160 --> 00:25:58.759 You know, there's like. 438 00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:01.960 Targeted individuals, which is a really fringe topic, and it's 439 00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.359 it's you know, I know it's hard to you know, 440 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.319 like prove, but you know what there is, like, like 441 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.400 I said, something interesting when you mentioned military technology, they 442 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:13.839 say that we have like the two K you know, 443 00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:15.960 and they say they used it on the Iraqi soldiers 444 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:18.359 and Desert Storm and they said that's what they got 445 00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:21.240 the Iraqi soldiers to like submit their put their weapons 446 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.880 down or something like that. You know, Like it's so 447 00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:26.480 I definitely believe that it's out there. I mean, that's 448 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:29.839 not proved, you know, it's just it's a it's a story, 449 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:33.279 but you know, it's it's interesting. And then it's like 450 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:37.200 would the would the would the government be you know, 451 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.240 experimenting on their own citizens. That's a that's a big question, 452 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:43.119 and that that's interesting because that also gets into the 453 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:48.440 the the the the topic of alien abductions, military abductions 454 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:51.200 and you know and all that stuff. What do you 455 00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:52.960 what do you feel about that stuff? Because I know 456 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:55.000 the reason why I ask you that it's kind of. 457 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:56.119 Off the top of the soul warden. 458 00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:59.559 But it's eufology related, and I know you've studied euphology. 459 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:02.960 Do you feel like the military abductions and the alien 460 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.119 abductions are happening if you had. 461 00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:09.319 To get absolutely yeah, absolutely yeah. Going back to what 462 00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:12.359 you said earlier, the V two K. I don't know 463 00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:16.200 if you ever watched Jesse Jesse Ventura's program that was 464 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.440 on a few years back. He actually had something to 465 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.640 demonstrate that where where they had this device and it 466 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:25.519 looked like a like a parabolic mic, you know, it 467 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:28.559 had the it had the dish and they could aim 468 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:31.119 that at an individual. And he actually demonstrated this and 469 00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:35.039 did it on on screen where they had a person 470 00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:39.759 walking down the sidewalk across the street and this guy 471 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:45.480 focused this this device at this person and and spoke 472 00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:49.400 several sentences. And then afterwards they went to the guy 473 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:51.079 and they said, you know, okay, tell us what you 474 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.960 were thinking, you know while you were walking and he 475 00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:57.599 and he spoke exactly what the guy with the device spoke. 476 00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:02.480 So it works, right, They do have that, uh and 477 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:07.440 and Jesse Ventura demonstrated it on his program with regards 478 00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:12.839 to uh, you know the other technology, Yeah, absolutely, you 479 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:16.880 know there's there are things that the the the black 480 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:23.680 projects have, the black technology has that I think, you know, 481 00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:28.920 would would make us lay awake at night because of 482 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.400 its of its capability. And with regards to the military 483 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:39.000 abductions and the the alien abductions, yeah, they're real, they're real. 484 00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.440 There was a pupil that was done several years ago 485 00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:46.720 and they determined that five to six percent of the 486 00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:51.440 population of the United States has experienced an alien abduction. 487 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.319 Now and and that's just the United States. That's not 488 00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.440 the rest of the world, because alien abductions are happening 489 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:01.519 all over the world world. But you know, you think 490 00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:05.160 about there's there's four hundred million people in the United 491 00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:08.039 States and what is what is five or six percent 492 00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:08.359 of that? 493 00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.160 About dred thousand, right, I mean. 494 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:13.319 Well, no, it's like twenty million. 495 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.519 It's more than twenty million. Wow, I'm not going to 496 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:20.759 I think I'm going mad. You know. 497 00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.160 The thing that the thing that you have to understand 498 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.480 is that those are only the people that came forward 499 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.480 that answered the poll. There's probably a lot more that 500 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:33.400 that don't want to talk about it because so horrific. 501 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.759 You know, the experience is is just unbelievable. You know. 502 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.759 It's the thing about the thing about you know, the 503 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:44.799 UFO phenomenon and the aliens and everything that that you know, 504 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:49.440 people talk about the aliens are not our friends. And 505 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:51.559 you know, in the research that I've done and the 506 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.200 books that I've read and the interviews that I've seen, uh, 507 00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.519 it's you know when people talk about any kind of 508 00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:02.640 contact or experience with these like there. The thing is, 509 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:06.039 Robert is we're living in the age of deception. And 510 00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:07.920 that was why you know, my first two points, like 511 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:12.079 you've got to be really careful about you know, what 512 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:14.839 you choose to believe and the things that you hear. 513 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:20.839 And the aliens are extremely deceptive. I mean, Bud Hopkins 514 00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.240 was was an abduction researcher. 515 00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:29.960 And I always book witnessed, yeah, the Fortill abduction. 516 00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:33.599 Of a tall story window by the Grays, you. 517 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.279 Know, yeah, that was Linda Cortil in New York. But 518 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:39.680 one of the things that he said, and he and 519 00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:43.640 he interviewed like seven hundred and fifty abductees, and he 520 00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:47.559 said that the aliens are extraordinarily deceptive and operate in 521 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.759 a covert manner. There is no doubt about that, he says. 522 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:58.200 He also says, we can't trust what the aliens are 523 00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:03.160 saying to us under any conditions. And this is a 524 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.480 guy that you know, I mean, if if you're going 525 00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:07.680 to listen to anybody, I would listen to him because 526 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:12.279 of his his experiences with you know, with alien abductees 527 00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:16.160 and uh and and there's I've got I've got quotes 528 00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:20.240 by other you know, alien abduction researchers in that and 529 00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:23.599 they basically say the same thing like you're you're walking 530 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.000 on very dangerous ground when you're interacting with these so 531 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:33.319 called aliens and uh and so you know, the I 532 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:38.079 I see a need for solar Warden because you know, 533 00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:45.519 Earth is being assaulted by these beings and uh and 534 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.000 and and you know we we literally need to be 535 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.720 protected from them, you know. I mean the things that 536 00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.839 they do to to you know, these abductees is just 537 00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.960 it's it's unbelievable. I mean, it's you know, it's it's 538 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.920 the worst horror movie that you could ever watch. Really, 539 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:06.119 and these people come back really severely damaged, not just 540 00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:13.359 physically but emotionally and uh, you know and intellectually. So yeah, 541 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.720 we we definitely need a secret space program to protect 542 00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:18.440 us from these beings whatever they are. 543 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:21.039 Do you do you think that even goes for like 544 00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.759 what it's so called pleadians, and because it seems like 545 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:26.839 some people are having like positive contact too, you know. 546 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.200 I think that's part of the deception. You know. It's 547 00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.240 it's like, you know, let's let's get them thinking that 548 00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.359 we're good and that we want to help them and everything, 549 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.319 and then we get them into a position where they 550 00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:41.759 trust us and they believe us, and then we can 551 00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:45.880 manipulate them any way we want. Yeah, And that's that's 552 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:48.119 the skeptic in me. Like, you know, I'm not just 553 00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.720 you know, taking all of this at face value. I'm 554 00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:55.680 looking at at what's going on. Like here's here's a 555 00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.680 quote by Carla Turner, doctor Carla Turner. She was a 556 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:03.640 uf researcher. She was also an abductee, and she's she 557 00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:05.960 was murdered. Actually she's she's not agree. 558 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:07.839 I was just going to say that I feel like 559 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:08.319 she was. 560 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.440 Yeah, but this is what she says, and I just 561 00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:14.440 I think that this is is it just puts everything 562 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.640 kind of in perspective. She says, before we allow ourselves 563 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.359 to believe in the benevolence of the alien interaction, we 564 00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:24.440 should ask do enlightened beings need to use the cover 565 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.839 of night to perform good deeds? Do they need to 566 00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:31.759 paralyze us and render us helpless to resist? Do angels 567 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:34.759 need to steal our fetuses? Do they need to manipulate 568 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:39.000 our children's genitals and probe our probe our rectums, our fear, pain, 569 00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.400 and deception consistent with high spiritual motives? 570 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:45.400 That's a really good point. 571 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:47.839 You know, that's you know, that's that's in a nutshell. 572 00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:51.000 And you know, I mean, she she did tons of 573 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.480 research on the alien abduction phenomena, and she was actually 574 00:33:55.880 --> 00:34:01.480 a participant, a reluctant one, but she experienced herself. So 575 00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.160 you're you're you're getting this quote from a person who's 576 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.279 been there and done that, and and talk to a 577 00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:09.800 lot of other people who were there and done that too. 578 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:17.679 So uh, you know, I think personally that these quote 579 00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.719 unquote aliens, like I said, they're not our friends and. 580 00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:22.039 We need. 581 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.719 Do you think there's proof of the government or the 582 00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:30.440 military working with aliens? It's to some degree, because you know, 583 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:32.679 a lot of times we hear in these military abduction 584 00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.880 cases that like it's like an alien abduction, but there's 585 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:39.679 military there. Like Jim Sparks talked about that when he 586 00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.280 was on art Ball, and many other people have talked 587 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.000 about that too, you know, so it seems to be 588 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:46.880 a thing, right, I. 589 00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.480 Think that, yeah. I think that there are factions of 590 00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.880 the US, of the US and other militaries that are 591 00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:58.679 complicit with these beings and what they're doing. Well. I mean, 592 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:03.760 there's the famous story of of UH of President Eisenhower 593 00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:06.880 UH and his meeting with the aliens at hallim And 594 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:10.039 Air Force Base in New Mexico where he gets off 595 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:13.079 of Air Force one, walks across the tarmac and enters 596 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.920 a flying saucer that's parked there and makes a deal 597 00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:22.119 with the alien entities that that they would they would 598 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:26.519 provide technology in exchange for permission to abduct an experiment 599 00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.639 on human beings. And of course he also there's there's 600 00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:34.480 also the famous story where again Eisenhower met with the 601 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:39.320 aliens at what is now Edwards Air Force Base in California, 602 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:42.559 you know, and and that that was the big story 603 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.039 about where he disappeared. He was he was he was 604 00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:49.519 supposed to be golfing in California, and he disappeared for 605 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.599 a day and a half or whatever, and everybody was 606 00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.079 concerned of where he was, and they came up with 607 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.840 the story that he had a toothache and he had 608 00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.679 to go see his dentist, when actually he met with 609 00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:03.400 these these alien entities at Edward's Air Force Space was 610 00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:07.440 at that time it's called Mirok Air Force Space. So yeah, 611 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.519 I think that I think that there is there is 612 00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.199 a number of factions that are complicit with these with 613 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:18.559 these alien beings. And then you have like you have 614 00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:22.440 what is referred to as the Cabal, which originally started 615 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.000 out as Majestic twelve, and they grew into what Eisenhower 616 00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.000 called the military industrial complex. 617 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.119 And I was going to say, I heard I'm friends 618 00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.519 with Loria Eisenhower, you know, and she thinks that like 619 00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.360 her grandfather was like, you know, pretty innocent in signing 620 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:40.360 the treaty with the Gray. 621 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.159 She thinks that it was m J twelve. 622 00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.440 You know, I just want to get her story out 623 00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:46.559 there because like, you know, I you know, I'm not 624 00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:49.480 saying it's one hundred percent, but you know, like it 625 00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:51.760 could be, you know, because it seemed like Eisenhower did 626 00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.599 want to warn against the military industrial complex. You know, 627 00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:58.559 I don't know, I mean, without being there, it's hard 628 00:36:58.559 --> 00:36:59.400 to say, right. 629 00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:04.719 Yeah, I think he saw the potential danger of a 630 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:08.880 group that was growing at that time into the military 631 00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:15.239 industrial complex and that you know, their their whole uh, 632 00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:20.119 you know, their their whole approach was military based and uh. 633 00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.440 And that's why you see the development of military technology 634 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:30.000 being at the at the forefront of technological advancements and uh. 635 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:33.119 And so you know, you you see these these different 636 00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:37.639 wars going on around the world and uh. And somebody 637 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.360 once described to me as well, that's just you know, 638 00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:43.119 those wars are just a reason for them to use 639 00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:47.599 all of their new toysh their new technology. Whether or 640 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:51.800 not that's true, I don't know. But you know, Eisenhower 641 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:55.920 saw potential danger and he and in his you know, 642 00:37:56.000 --> 00:38:00.360 final address to the nation, he he, you know, he 643 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.599 he gave that warning that you know, look out for 644 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:07.480 these guys because you know they're they're again they're not 645 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:12.960 necessarily your friends. But the thing about this whole, this 646 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.280 whole UFO phenomenon, the secret Space program and that sort 647 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:19.400 of thing is what a lot of researchers refer to 648 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:23.400 as high strangeness. And that means that there's stuff out 649 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:27.440 there that just does not make sense at all, and 650 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:31.039 and there's lots of it within the UFO phenomenon. And 651 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:32.599 I mean, I could go on and on and on 652 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:36.039 about you know, the different the different aspects that just 653 00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:38.840 you know, they boggle the mind. They go like, that 654 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.039 doesn't make any sense at all. Yeah, what we've just 655 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.320 what we've just seen or what we've just read or whatever, 656 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:46.800 it makes no sense at all. And and I think 657 00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:52.400 that's part of the deception that these aliens apply within 658 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:56.800 this UFO community is is you know, they they're they're 659 00:38:56.840 --> 00:39:00.960 trying to to confuse people. And then and then they 660 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:02.880 step forward and say, oh, well, you know it's because 661 00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.280 of this or it's because of that, and and what 662 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.880 it is is it's just a way to manipulate. And 663 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:11.639 and again, you know, I come back to my two points, like, 664 00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:15.039 you've got to be very very careful, you know, it's 665 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:16.079 about what you're believing. 666 00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:18.559 Yeah, I was going to ask you, are there any 667 00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:21.000 do you feel like there any specific events in history 668 00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:23.440 that you think are tied to Solar wardens activities. 669 00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:31.039 I'm going to go out on a limb and one 670 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.840 of the well, I think this was at the end 671 00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:40.280 of that episode of Hangar one about space weapons. They 672 00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:42.599 talked about and I can't remember the name of the 673 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.079 of the town it was. It was in Russia, and 674 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:48.719 there was a there was a meteor that was had 675 00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:53.480 entered the atmosphere and its trajectory was to hit either 676 00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:58.159 this particular Russian city or close to it and potentially 677 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.239 cause an awful lot of damage and an awful lot 678 00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:06.559 of loss of life. And they've they've got video from 679 00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:12.519 people in the city who are who were recording the 680 00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:16.519 the approach of this of this meteor, and in one 681 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.000 of them you can see they do it in slow 682 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:23.000 motion and they had to they had to enhance the 683 00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:26.840 video and everything, but you can see an object coming 684 00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:31.639 up behind this uh, this meteor, striking it and actually 685 00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:34.679 going all the way through it. And what that did, Yeah, 686 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:38.360 and what that did was that disintegrated the meteor. And 687 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:41.840 so even though there was still damage in this Russian city, 688 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:46.199 it was minimal. And it's my opinion, and like I said, 689 00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:48.840 going out on a limb here, it's my opinion that 690 00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:53.719 that could have possibly been solar warden who uh uh 691 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:59.599 targeted and fired on this metior to destroy it before 692 00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:05.000 it it struck and caused devastating damage. And in my 693 00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.960 first novel, I talk about that, I talk about how 694 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:12.679 solar Warden has two primary objectives. The first one is 695 00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:16.360 to protect the Earth from things like that, like meteor 696 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:20.079 strikes and that sort of thing, and also to keep 697 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:26.440 space free from any kind of conflict from Earth based governments. 698 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.679 So you know, you can't fire a missile up into 699 00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:31.719 space and then have it come back down and strike 700 00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:35.119 an enemy country kind of thing. They would eliminate that, 701 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.280 and that's what SDI is Space Defense Initiative, was all about. 702 00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:40.599 And I think that was a front for solar Warden 703 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.079 developing a web of satellites that were designed to protect 704 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:48.320 the Earth from that sort of thing happening, of course. 705 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:50.639 And then the second objective for solar Warden is to 706 00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.960 defend the Earth from from enemies that are that are 707 00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.840 non terrestrial, that are alien enemies. So it's it's you 708 00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:03.199 know what, I can't say definitively or conclusively that what 709 00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:06.760 happened in that and Wrestler with that meteor was a 710 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:11.000 result of solar ward and protecting them, but it makes 711 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:14.360 sense to me. Yeah, I guess that's as as they'll 712 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:14.760 go with that. 713 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.559 Yeah, No, that's interesting, And what I wanted to do is, 714 00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:20.119 you know, like in our other interviews, we've just talked 715 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.840 about the like we've tried to talk about the facts 716 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:24.880 of the secret space program, and like I was saying, guys, 717 00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.000 if you haven't seen other interviews with Peter, you can 718 00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:29.760 watch them on Rumble because they got taken off YouTube 719 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:33.000 when my first channel got taken down. But they are 720 00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.599 on Rumble. But we've we've we've basically tried to prove 721 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.000 the speacret space program. But what I wanted to do is, 722 00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:40.199 like I have all three of your books, and your 723 00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:43.280 books are written in a sci fi type fashion, Like 724 00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.360 for people who might be interested in getting your books, 725 00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.239 tell them a little bit about your books and like 726 00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:51.239 what you've written about and like and yeah, because I 727 00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:52.639 want people to get your books. 728 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.679 Okay, Well, I mean I've written four books now I'm 729 00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:59.239 working on book five. This is a six book series 730 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:05.800 and so I've published four of them and they're basically 731 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:08.719 just about the secret Space program. And there they focus 732 00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:13.920 on excuse me, an F thirty five pilot by the 733 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:17.920 name of Steve Richardson. His call sign is Scarecrow and 734 00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:23.320 he is this again. You got to remember this goes back. 735 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:28.320 That book was first published in twenty twenty, and so 736 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.920 the United States still had a presence in Afghanistan. And 737 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:36.079 this pilot, this Scarecrow, was flying out of Bogroom Air 738 00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:39.360 Force Base, and he was an F sixteen pilot, but 739 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.719 he had just recently transitioned to flying F thirty fives. 740 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:48.639 And so what happens is he's flying a mission and 741 00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:56.760 he hasn't he hasn't an encounter with a UFO and 742 00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:01.159 Tier three B engaging in combat and as a result, 743 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:07.960 is uh of their proximity to him. His his plane dies, 744 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:13.880 basically loses power and crashes, and he uh, he parachutes out. 745 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.920 He's injured, and he's laying on the ground expecting to die, 746 00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:20.960 and all of a sudden he sees this black triangle 747 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:24.840 floating above him with white lights on the three corners 748 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:27.719 and a red light in the center. And uh and 749 00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:29.639 the next thing, he wakes up on a on a 750 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:35.880 carrier in space called the Nautilus, and uh, it's it's 751 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:41.800 it's run or operated by an organization called Solar Warden. 752 00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:47.920 Now now Scarecrow, he's uh, he's an ACE pilot. He's 753 00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:51.159 he's one of the best pilots you know that there 754 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:53.119 that there is in the in the US Air Force. 755 00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:59.280 And uh, so solar Warden UH invites him to to join, 756 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.719 you know, their organization, and at first he's reluctant. He 757 00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:10.119 doesn't believe everything that he's seeing. But then Nautilus engages 758 00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:17.199 in UH combat with with an alien mothership and he 759 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.079 witnesses first hand. You know, what solar Warden is is 760 00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:25.239 is fighting and it's very dangerous, and so he decides 761 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.239 to sign up. And that's that's kind of the I 762 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:30.360 don't want to give away anymore. 763 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.159 It sounds that sounds cool. It sounds like a lot 764 00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:35.159 of people in my audience would like that. I hope 765 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:37.719 you guys get Peter's but that sounds really cool. Peter 766 00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:40.280 I like that, you know, and and you guys I 767 00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:42.440 have the books and you know, Peters signed them all 768 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:44.880 for me, you know, and stuff, and that was great. 769 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.480 And you know what I was gonna say was, what 770 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.800 are your thoughts on UH? David Grush, Jake, Jake Barber, 771 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:56.800 and Jason Sands. You know, it's interesting because in the 772 00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:59.719 case of Jason Sands and Jake Barber, you know, these 773 00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.840 guys are doing like mainstream interviews like Ross Coulthard, and 774 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:05.440 they're saying that they've been involved in like you know, 775 00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:09.760 like like they especially Sands and Barber. You know, I 776 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.000 think Barber talks about that he was involved in psionic warfare, 777 00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.199 and I think Jason Sands alleges that he was part 778 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:18.880 of like almost like a twenty in back program, which 779 00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:20.079 I find fascinating. 780 00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:20.320 You know. 781 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.639 Yeah, I don't deal with the twenty in back scenario 782 00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:29.079 in my books that I use. I use Scarecrow as 783 00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.559 a as a vehicle to introduce the reader to all 784 00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:34.960 of the technology and everything that's going on because he 785 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.599 doesn't know anything about it. So he's asking questions, and 786 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.679 of course they're training him and he's learning, you know, 787 00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:45.519 as he goes through the through the novels. Again. You know, 788 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.920 I'm very skeptical about anybody who says that they've been 789 00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:53.000 involved with either Solar Warden or the secret space program, 790 00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:59.039 because because their evidence is strictly anecdotal, you know, I mean, 791 00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:01.440 they haven't brought anything back, or they don't have any 792 00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:07.880 you know, any like video or or any kind of 793 00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:12.639 of evidence, you know, documentary evidence, any anything like that. 794 00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:17.199 It's just a story, and so you kind of have 795 00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:20.559 to be very wary of that because anybody can make 796 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.000 up a story. I mean, I've written four novels and 797 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.960 it's just a story. But I don't present it as truth, 798 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.719 and I don't present like, I'm not scarecrow, you know, 799 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.639 I'm just I'm the author and I'm writing this story, 800 00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:36.000 and I'm presenting it as that this is just a story. 801 00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.239 But it's based on all of this research that I've done, 802 00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:44.360 and I've incorporated that research into the story. So I 803 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:49.079 personally believe that solar Warden is real. And I'm going 804 00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.480 out on a limb by saying that, but based on 805 00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:55.039 the research that I've done, I can see evidence that 806 00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.360 it is real. And there are other researchers, you know, 807 00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:04.320 like much more important than I am who agree with me, 808 00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.320 you know, and they've looked at the research and they've 809 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.440 come to that conclusion as well. So again, you know, 810 00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:13.679 the Corey Goods and the other guys, Randy Kramer's and 811 00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:17.000 those those guys. Sorry I don't mean to name names, 812 00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:20.760 but but again, all they the only evidence they have 813 00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:23.599 is is anecdotal and so I can only go so 814 00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:24.280 far with that. 815 00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:27.719 And yeah, yeah, but it seems like to me, though, 816 00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:29.840 like I'm not you know, it seems like they wouldn't 817 00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.159 if they wanted to keep this under wraps. They wouldn't 818 00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:34.519 want to give out any they wouldn't want anybody getting 819 00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:35.360 any evidence of it. 820 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:35.679 Right. 821 00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.519 That's that's the tough part, because like you know, they 822 00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:40.880 would definitely want to keep if they you know, to 823 00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:44.000 keep it under wraps, to keep it, like you know, 824 00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:45.960 and and that's what it seems like they're doing. Going 825 00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:47.800 back to what Richard Dolan said, if it is a 826 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.280 breakaway civilization, which it seems like it is, you know, 827 00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.320 it's it's so it's so it's so tricky, you know, 828 00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:55.039 it really is. 829 00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:56.199 It's a tricky subject. 830 00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:59.159 It really I'm fascinated by it though, you know, I 831 00:48:59.199 --> 00:48:59.719 really am. 832 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:03.360 Yeah, and and I I am too, Robert. And but 833 00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:07.320 the thing is is this entire you know, UFO phenomenon 834 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.880 is just a literal mine field, and you have to 835 00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:12.440 be very careful where you step. 836 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.960 I agree, I agree, so, you. 837 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:18.519 Know, and that's and that's the the approach that I've 838 00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:21.440 taken is that I've I've tried to follow the you know, 839 00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.679 my two my two original points is, you know, don't 840 00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:28.960 don't believe everything everybody tells you. And and you know, 841 00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.360 I mean there I want to believe certain things, but 842 00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.440 I have to stop myself and go, await a second. 843 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.400 You know, yeah you can, you can believe that, but 844 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:41.719 what is your what is your basis of evidence? And 845 00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:46.119 so I try to remain you know, objective, and I 846 00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.599 and and I try to remain skeptical. And it's it's 847 00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:54.079 it stood me in good stead because you know, there's 848 00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:56.199 there's a lot of things out there that I've that 849 00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:58.800 I've after I've done the research and I've I've drawn 850 00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.480 my conclusion. I go, not, you know, that doesn't work 851 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:04.639 for me, and uh, and then I find out later 852 00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.840 on that you know, that it was that it was 853 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:09.840 something that was made up, or it was something that 854 00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:14.079 was contrived or or whatever. And and so I've gone, yeah, 855 00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.280 you know what, it was a good thing that I 856 00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:19.280 that I you know, took a hard look at that. Uh. 857 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:21.199 And and that's what you have to do. You can't 858 00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:23.480 just go out, I want to believe in aliens, Well 859 00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:24.280 what's your evidence? 860 00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:25.280 You know? 861 00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:27.760 I mean, you can believe, you can believe in in 862 00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:31.840 pink you know, in pink unicorns and that sort of thing, 863 00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.800 but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's true. And so, 864 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:40.320 you know, especially with this with this uh, this whole phenomenon. 865 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.119 You have to be very very careful. 866 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:46.599 Well, what do you think about time travel technology? 867 00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:49.119 Like, you know, like we hear stuff about the chronavisor 868 00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:51.239 and stuff like that, and then we hear about the 869 00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:55.440 uh the looking glass device, and we hear that, you know, 870 00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.400 like you know that the government may have portal technology 871 00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.519 or teleportation and stuff like which could be linked to 872 00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.159 time travel. Like what do you feel about what do 873 00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:07.000 you feel about the fact that, like the possibility of 874 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:08.280 time travel technology. 875 00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.679 Do you think that could be there's something to that or. 876 00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:16.400 Yeah, there could be. I mean it's again, it's it's 877 00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:19.039 it's one of those subjects that that you have to 878 00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:23.400 be very careful with. And I have time travel in 879 00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:28.400 my novels. So if you're a proponent of time travel scenarios, 880 00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.960 then then you'll like book two and book three. Uh 881 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:36.599 So I think that there's a there's a possibility. I 882 00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.519 mean when you look at the technology that the Secret 883 00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:43.320 Space Program purports to have, you know that I've seen 884 00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:48.360 in my research, like I mentioned earlier, cloaking technology, anti gravity, propulsion, 885 00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:54.000 directed energy weapons, you know, all of these things. There 886 00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:57.119 is a possibility that they may have developed some form 887 00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:01.440 of time travel. But again, I'm not going to say 888 00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:04.800 definitively all. All I will say is that it's a 889 00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:09.280 definite possibility. Yeah, and I'll leave it at that. I just, 890 00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:11.800 you know, i'd have to do more research. And I'm 891 00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:14.719 doing research all the time, you know, and discovering new 892 00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:16.719 things and going wow, I didn't see that before. 893 00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:20.920 You know, I know, it's interesting, right. 894 00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:24.239 It seems like something comes up all the time. It's uh, yeah, well, 895 00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:26.519 we have about a couple of minutes off. Is there anything 896 00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:28.119 else you wanted to cover that we might have not 897 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:28.840 covered today? 898 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.199 Like, you know, I guess the only thing I'd want 899 00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.360 to say is that, you know, with book four, Uh, 900 00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.119 here's here's the cover of book four, get it in 901 00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:43.840 the center. And anyhow, in book four, what I do 902 00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:48.000 is is, uh, I focus more on the paranormal aspect 903 00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:54.079 of the UFO phenomenon. Now. I have a paranormal element 904 00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:57.960 in all the first three novels, but in novel number four, 905 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.679 I kind of, you know, unleash the chain and just 906 00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:05.480 let it, let it go kind of thing. Uh. And 907 00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:08.880 the reason why is because the UFO phenomenon in its 908 00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:14.440 entirety contains an awful lot of paranormal elements and uh. 909 00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:16.760 And so what I try and do in book four 910 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.760 is I try and introduce that in a greater way 911 00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:26.039 and and also provide a different element to the conflict 912 00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:29.400 that solar Warden is engaging in with the aliens. 913 00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:30.119 Uh. 914 00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:34.119 It's not just physical. There's a paranormal, spiritual element to it. 915 00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.960 And uh. And that's what I've discovered in in in 916 00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:41.360 my research, a lot of UFO researchers, going all the 917 00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:45.079 way back to jail and Heinek and and Jacques Vallet 918 00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:48.559 and John Keel, you know, they all talk about the 919 00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:54.360 fact that the UFO phenomenon uh is demonic in nature. 920 00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.559 And that's their word, not mine. And so what I 921 00:53:57.599 --> 00:53:59.679 try and do is I try and incorporate that in 922 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.519 a much greater way in book four. So if if 923 00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:06.280 you're you know, if that's something that interests you, then 924 00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:08.719 you know, read the first three books and then read 925 00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:10.199 book four and you'll love it. 926 00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:11.639 Yeah. 927 00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:13.159 So I guess that's all I want to say. 928 00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:17.199 That's awesome and and and uh, how can how can 929 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:19.679 how can people get the books? Like are they on 930 00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.480 Amazon or do they have to go directly to your website. 931 00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:24.480 Or no, well they can go to my website, and 932 00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:27.800 I've got all of the links to the various retailers 933 00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:29.679 and they can just click on whichever one they want 934 00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:33.000 to use, including the publisher. If you buy the book 935 00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:38.480 directly from the publisher, I get fifty whereas with Amazon, 936 00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:41.760 I get I think like ten percent or something. But 937 00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:45.480 you know whatever, whatever you're comfortable working with. You know, 938 00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:49.079 books a million of Barnes and Noble, All of the 939 00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.239 links are on the on the website underneath each book. 940 00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:55.400 Wait, Peter, you cut out there? How did you say that? 941 00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:58.159 So if they ordered directly from you, you get fifty percent. 942 00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.119 But if they order because I you your screen FROs 943 00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:02.440 That's why I said, are you still there? 944 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:06.400 Because it's not your fault. But but how do people 945 00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:08.880 do that? So if they order from you, you get filmed. 946 00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:11.280 If they order from Amazon, it's only ten percent. 947 00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:14.960 If they ordered directly from the publisher, and there's a 948 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.239 link on my website along with you know, all of 949 00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:23.039 the other book links. If they order directly from the publisher, 950 00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:26.159 I get fifty percent of the costs of the book. 951 00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:29.519 If you order from Amazon or Barnes and Noble or whatever, 952 00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:33.559 I only get ten percent. But you know what, if 953 00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:36.320 you're comfortable ordering from Amazon, then go for it or 954 00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.000 Barnes and Noble or Books a Million or any of 955 00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.119 the other retailers. All of the links are up on 956 00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:45.000 my website for each book. So when you when you 957 00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:48.199 scroll down or you go to the page with with 958 00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:51.440 that particular book, underneath the picture of the of the 959 00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.760 cover are all of those little mini boxes and you 960 00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:57.320 just click on one, you know, Amazon or Barnes and 961 00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.159 Noble or whatever, and that'll take you directly to them 962 00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:03.400 and you can order the book from them. So try 963 00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:06.079 and make it as easy as possible for everybody, and 964 00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:09.440 and you know, and give them whatever choice that they want. 965 00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:12.480 So and what's the name of the publisher. 966 00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:15.480 Publisher is book Baby. 967 00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:18.559 Okay, So that way people know when they go to order, 968 00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:20.119 they order from book Baby, you. 969 00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:23.719 Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh yeah, this was awesome. 970 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:26.639 Peter, Well, thank you so much, and uh yeah, I'd 971 00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:29.239 love to have you back on again as your research continues. 972 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:31.000 And uh yeah, thank. 973 00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:32.880 You so much for doing this, especially early, because I 974 00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:34.639 know it's early here on the East coast. I don't 975 00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:36.119 know where you're at, but I'm on the east coast 976 00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:38.599 of Pittsburgh. I'm on Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, so it's kind of 977 00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:40.920 you know, early here, so I appreciate it. 978 00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:42.559 I'm in Alberta, Canada. 979 00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.679 So are you three hours behind? Is at eight am? There? 980 00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:48.760 No, No, it's two hours behind. I'm Mountain standard time, 981 00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:51.480 your Eastern time. You're you're two hours ahead of us. 982 00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:55.239 So no, I'm I'm like I said, I'm honored to 983 00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:59.119 be on your podcast, and I always enjoy our conversations. Uh, 984 00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.159 this is this, This is great for me. I really 985 00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:04.039 I really appreciate you having me on. So thank you 986 00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:04.559 very much. 987 00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.400 All right, and thank you Peter, and I'll see you 988 00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:09.840 guys later tonight. I have an interview with Joan Widen. 989 00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:12.320 She's going to do some energy clearings for you guys 990 00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:14.880 tonight at six pm Eastern. She hasn't verified yet, but 991 00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:17.599 I think she's gonna. She usually verifies late anyway, so 992 00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:19.239 I'm just gonna go ahead and make the link and 993 00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.159 then if she decides to uh not do it, then 994 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:23.360 you know, well then we'll. 995 00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:23.880 Just cancel it. 996 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:26.639 But you know, I think that's tonight, guys, So whoever's 997 00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:28.840 watching this, if you you want to tune in to 998 00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:31.400 night at six pm Eastern, I'll be live again and 999 00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:33.719 thank you, get Peter and thank you everybody, and have 1000 00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:35.079 a good night everyone, take care. 1001 00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:35.880 Thank you, Robert