1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,480 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,719 my daily show prep with all of the links, become 6 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,359 a patron go to thepeteclendarshow dot com. Make sure you 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:31,039 much for your support at the thirty third annual Union 10 00:00:31,079 --> 00:00:34,920 County Crime Stop barbeque here at the Union County agg 11 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:39,759 Center on Pressin Road in Monroe. And thanks again to 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Congressman Mark Harris as well as State Senator Todd Johnson 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,159 for stopping by. Good to talk with them again about 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,679 hurricane relief efforts in western North Carolina and other topics. 15 00:00:50,679 --> 00:00:53,479 That was in hour number two. So if you missed it, 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,479 you can get the PEAT podcast thepetepod dot com. That's 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,240 the website. All right, So a story of the AP 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,480 I found to be interesting with the headline a tough 19 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:11,200 on crime approach is back in US state capitols Tough 20 00:01:11,239 --> 00:01:15,040 on crime approach and it kind of feels like this 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,239 is mirroring a pendulum swing that occurred in the eighties. 22 00:01:21,079 --> 00:01:23,680 We just had Mark Harrison. We were talking about the 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,879 inauguration being moved indoors. The last time it got moved indoors. 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,400 Do you know when that was. It's Ronald Reagan. It 25 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,959 was so cold they moved it inside. And there are 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,879 some other similarities that people are drawing. You had the 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:46,280 return of hostages right before taking office, and you had 28 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:54,400 the assassination attempt, very eerily similar. Right, Not that history repeats, 29 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,959 but sometimes it rhymes, although in this case it does 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,599 kind of sound like it's repeating a little bit. But 31 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:05,959 so there's that. And in the eighties we saw, you know, 32 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,240 crime getting out of control, and then there was the backlash. 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,719 Tough on crime policies came about, and then you know, 34 00:02:12,759 --> 00:02:17,039 we ended up with a pretty relatively safe I say 35 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:19,919 that relatively safe, but look, the crime stats have the 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,800 crime rates have been declining for the last thirty years. 37 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,960 So and there I've read enough material on this where 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,520 nobody really knows why. There are all sorts of theories 39 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,319 and stuff, but in general, when you zoom out looking 40 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,639 back fifty years, the data is on a downward slope, 41 00:02:38,719 --> 00:02:43,080 which is very good, very good. Now that being said, 42 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:49,039 Charlotte Mecklenburg Police put out its latest crime report this 43 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:55,800 for twenty twenty four, overall crime down three percent in Charlotte. 44 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,560 And that's there, that's their headline. Overall crime is down 45 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:09,840 three percent. That's good, right, good news. Yeah, But if 46 00:03:09,879 --> 00:03:12,520 you look at the breakout, which they do include, I 47 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:17,520 will give them credit. CMPD did include the breakdown of 48 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:20,039 the crimes at the very end of the four page 49 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:26,240 press release. But at the very end they list the 50 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:30,240 breakdown as a violent crimes and then homicides and then 51 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:36,439 aggravated assaults, rapes, armed robberies, property crimes, residential burglaries and 52 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:44,400 commercial burglaries, larcenies from auto and vehicle thefts, and arsons. Okay, 53 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,919 violent crime is actually up. Violent crime is up by 54 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,759 about two hundred offenses. Now keep in mind, also we 55 00:03:55,879 --> 00:03:59,680 have more people living here. So when you break it 56 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,719 out of proportion of the population, right, you look at 57 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:09,759 a violent crime rate per thousand people, and you know 58 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,479 you have more people, you have more crime incidents. So 59 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,240 if you have more crime incidents, then yes, you're going 60 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,800 to see this number increase. Obviously, So seventy four hundred 61 00:04:19,879 --> 00:04:23,480 offenses versus seventy two hundred in twenty twenty three, so 62 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:29,199 it's basically a two hundred incident increase. Homicides went up 63 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:34,199 by twenty two, aggravated assaults went up by one hundred, thirty, 64 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:41,959 rapes dropped by twenty, armed robberies declined by twenty, and 65 00:04:42,319 --> 00:04:47,160 property crimes declined by one thousand, five hundred, and so 66 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:52,160 I would submit that is the driver of the data decline, 67 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,000 which makes sense because when you look at the property 68 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,879 crimes numbers, it is by and large it's the biggest 69 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,439 category of crime. Property crimes account for like thirty seven 70 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,360 thousand crimes, and all the others are in either the 71 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,399 hundreds or the mid you know, five six seven thousand range. 72 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,560 Property crime is the biggest category. So that declined fifteen hundred. 73 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,120 Residential burglaries were down two hundred and fifty. And I 74 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,040 have no idea if this is true, so I'll say 75 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,639 it anyway. I think it probably may have something to 76 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,920 do with the rise of the affordability of home security systems. 77 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:35,000 Commercial burglaries were up by one hundred. I would guess 78 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,759 that might be due to all of the construction sites 79 00:05:37,759 --> 00:05:44,319 getting raided. Reels as such larsnees from automobiles up by 80 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:50,319 about one thousand. These are people that usually this is 81 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,120 people leaving stuff in their vehicles unlocked. And I do 82 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:59,600 not understand why people do this. Why see it in 83 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:02,720 your viewvehicle with the doors unlocked, unless you're trying to 84 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:05,879 get the laptops stolen so you can collect insurance money 85 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,720 and get a new one. That's the only reason I 86 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:10,759 can think. People do this and then do it multiple times. 87 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,360 And I know some people that this has happened to 88 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:16,199 multiple times, Like if you don't lock your car after 89 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,680 the first time, you get robbed out of your car, Like, 90 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,519 I'm sorry, Like that's mainly a you problem. You need 91 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,480 to be paying way more at insurance rates. But that's 92 00:06:28,519 --> 00:06:32,000 the second biggest category. There was eleven thousand, over eleven 93 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:37,639 thousand larcenies from autos last year. Vehicle thefts up, sorry, 94 00:06:37,959 --> 00:06:44,800 vehicle thefts down, sorry down down by about five hundred. 95 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:48,800 Arsons There were one hundred and sixty two last year. 96 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,000 There were one forty three the previous year, so arson 97 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,279 has gone up by about twenty So it's kind of 98 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,120 a mixed bag. But again, the violent crimes, homicides and 99 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:04,040 aggravated assaults have all gone up, So while overall crime 100 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:10,920 is down, the violent crime seems to be up. CMPD 101 00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:14,800 reported a three percent decrease in overall crime, victimization, and 102 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,759 overall incidents. This is the result of the department's focus 103 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:24,079 on key areas such as juvenile crime, automobile thefts, street takeovers, 104 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:30,519 and curtailing violent crime in areas of high victimization. Violent 105 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,680 crime was up three percent in victimization but down one 106 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:39,800 percent in the number of incidents in twenty twenty four. 107 00:07:40,199 --> 00:07:44,040 The main driver of this rise in victimization was the 108 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:50,319 four percent increase in aggravated assault by pointing a firearm. Now, 109 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:54,240 in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four, CMPD launched 110 00:07:54,480 --> 00:08:00,720 what's called the CORE thirteen, the Coordinated Overlap Response Effort, 111 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,560 the CORE, or as I call it, the CORE, well 112 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,360 they call it that too. It's an initiative involving all 113 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:16,040 thirteen CMPD divisions to increase what do you think, officer presence, 114 00:08:17,319 --> 00:08:21,959 not like gifts, but there right them being places, their 115 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,879 presence in the community. During the first two months of 116 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,279 CORE thirteen, seventy five firearms were sized, one hundred and 117 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:31,079 twenty three arrests were made. The initiative was a driver 118 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:34,039 in lowering violent crime by four percent just in the 119 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:37,360 fourth quarter. Overall, it was of okay, so what are 120 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:42,720 they saying. What does CMPD say that when we increase 121 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:49,679 officer presence it leads to a decrease in crime, particularly 122 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:55,080 violent crime. Charlotte also saw a decline in juvenile crime, 123 00:08:55,519 --> 00:08:59,960 in part due to the launch of CMPDS Juvenile Accountability 124 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:06,120 and Diversion Empowerment Team, the JADE Team, or as I 125 00:09:06,159 --> 00:09:09,759 call it, the Jade Well they call it that too 126 00:09:09,799 --> 00:09:14,840 also all right, So jade's focus is juvenile investigations, monitoring 127 00:09:14,919 --> 00:09:18,440 at risk youth and conducting operations to reduce crime and 128 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,840 break the cycle of recidivism, which is like returning to 129 00:09:21,879 --> 00:09:25,799 the life of crime kind of thing, reoffending. This is 130 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,919 the program where they go and they visit the homes 131 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,559 of quote at risk youth. They arrested one hundred and two, sorry, 132 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,600 one hundred and twenty two juveniles involved in criminal activity 133 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,000 and violent crimes involving juvenile suspects decrease two percent for 134 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:48,120 the year. So again another example, what is this targeted enforcement? 135 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:55,679 More police reduces the crime. If only there was some 136 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,000 sort of a trend that we could tease out of 137 00:09:58,039 --> 00:10:05,720 this data. Street takeovers they're down pop up takeovers or 138 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:07,720 down eighty eight percent. This is where the people drive 139 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:11,519 their cars and donuts and the intersections of roads and stuff. 140 00:10:13,399 --> 00:10:16,639 Twenty twenty four, CMPD had four hundred and sorry I 141 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,120 read the wrong part here. This is street takeovers. Pop 142 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:24,559 up takeovers down eighty eight percent, and the pre arranged 143 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,879 events declined seventy one percent. Street takeover vehicle seizures rose, 144 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:33,240 so they seized a whole bunch of people's cars that 145 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:40,120 were involved in the takeovers, almost as if punishments might 146 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,840 reduce the bad behavior. Again, is somebody keeping a list 147 00:10:44,879 --> 00:10:46,440 of this stuff? Because I feel like we may be 148 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:49,279 close to cracking the code on some of this. Here's 149 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,879 a great idea. How about making an escape to a 150 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,480 really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just 151 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,039 a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville 152 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:01,960 is your connection. 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I am 172 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,000 here at the thirty third annual Union County Crime Stoppers Barbecue, 173 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:12,320 and I got the sheriff here of Union County Eddie, 174 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,039 is it Kathy or Kathy Kathy? Okay. I didn't want 175 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:18,279 to mispronounce it, so I figured i'd say it both ways, 176 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,960 just to be safe. That's COVID your coverd okay. So 177 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,480 I also made sure he says, I'm not going to 178 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,600 get towed for parking along the side of the road 179 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,919 in order to get here and make my on air shift. See, 180 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,720 it's it's good to know people think you'll be good. 181 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: I'll go out there and check and I'll be sure 182 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,720 nobody's already, toady, thank. 183 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: You'll be good. Right if I get out there now 184 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,759 and I find my car, toad it was it with 185 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:46,440 f B City with no call, okay, right, all right? 186 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,720 So first off, let's talk just a bit about the 187 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,600 event here, this Crime Stoppers Barbecue event. How thirty three 188 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,840 years and so what do you all use the money for? 189 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: Uh? 190 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:58,879 Speaker 3: And is this like? Is this it? Is this the 191 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,480 big fundraiser of the only fund It's the only one. 192 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,240 It's the only fundraiser have all year and all the 193 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:09,840 money goes back into the community. A big portion of. 194 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: What we did today was donated by the public. All 195 00:13:15,639 --> 00:13:23,480 the meat, the slaw, everything is donated. So the money 196 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:27,879 that comes in is a lot of money, but every 197 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:30,039 bit of it goes back out in the community. Nobody 198 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,679 gets a salary and nobody touches anything that don't go 199 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,320 through the crime stoppers board. 200 00:13:34,879 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: And the money is used to pay what the rewards 201 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:42,039 forward for tips. Yeah. So, so do you ever end 202 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,440 up in a year where you get more money than 203 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:46,799 you got tips where it's like the last tip of 204 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,039 the year, like December thirty first, Like if I commit 205 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,080 a crime and then tip off myself, can I make 206 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,080 a lot of money with whatever's left in the till 207 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,480 We'd have to have the board consider that. I'm just 208 00:13:56,519 --> 00:13:59,120 trying to think outside the box. I was going over 209 00:13:59,159 --> 00:14:03,759 the crime data from Charlotte Mecklenburg Police. They released the 210 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:07,399 crime data for twenty twenty four, and we were just 211 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,279 chatting about it before we got on the air here 212 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:16,200 and you, unsolicited from me, you said something about car 213 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,080 or larcenies from vehicles. This is a big problem in 214 00:14:21,159 --> 00:14:23,039 Union County. I mean, I don't think you got the 215 00:14:23,159 --> 00:14:27,399 numbers that they got in Charlotte Mecklburg. But why is 216 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,519 this such a problem. I don't understand why people first off, 217 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,279 leave their cars open to get burglarized like that to 218 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,440 get stolen from in the first place, and then I 219 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,360 guess the crime. The thieves know that this crime is 220 00:14:40,639 --> 00:14:41,559 easily done. 221 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,279 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of things in play. For one thing, 222 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,600 the juvenile law changed in North Carolina to where yeah, 223 00:14:50,679 --> 00:14:55,840 that hurts all this process, seventeen sixteen year old. No, 224 00:14:56,039 --> 00:15:00,600 they're not going to jail. They get recruited by who 225 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:05,080 knows who to hit these neighborhoods, pull on door handles. 226 00:15:06,159 --> 00:15:12,080 If the public would lock their vehicles every night, and. 227 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:15,159 Speaker 1: Really if they just put the stuff out of sight. 228 00:15:15,679 --> 00:15:18,159 Speaker 2: Because they run down through these neighborhoods and pull door 229 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,759 handles till they find one open, then they steal everything 230 00:15:21,759 --> 00:15:22,320 that's in there. 231 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,919 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any difference what it is. 232 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:31,799 Speaker 2: They'll go through the ashtrays, the computers, sometimes they get 233 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:36,200 a gun. It goes right back out into the criminal world. 234 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,679 Speaker 1: So it's this like an organized theft ring. 235 00:15:41,039 --> 00:15:43,919 Speaker 2: I don't think it's that much organized. I think it's 236 00:15:44,159 --> 00:15:50,600 just thieves that band together to be successful at their job. 237 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:54,840 And then when they hit these neighborhoods, see they know 238 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,519 they'll have one person drop them off, and they run 239 00:15:59,519 --> 00:16:03,279 through these neighborhoods and they're so hard to catch in 240 00:16:03,399 --> 00:16:07,720 those neighborhoods. But we have caught them, caught some we've charged. 241 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,600 I think one time we charged thirty four people. Oh wow, 242 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,919 so it's a big deal. And but they do more 243 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,320 damage than they get money. 244 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:24,919 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, if they especially if they're breaking windows or 245 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:25,639 something like that. 246 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: They're breaking some windows, but not a lot of window breakage. 247 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:32,279 Speaker 1: If they just locked the cars, yeah, be a big help. Yeah. No, 248 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,639 it's say it happens all the time in my neighborhood. 249 00:16:34,679 --> 00:16:38,159 I don't understand because usually somebody takes to the Facebook 250 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,960 group and they're like, I just got robbed from my car, 251 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,240 And first somebody will ask did you leave it open? 252 00:16:44,279 --> 00:16:47,799 And I'm like, well, yes, uh so maybe that's happening. 253 00:16:47,799 --> 00:16:49,480 Maybe you got people that are coming in and dropping 254 00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:50,799 off the whole Uh. 255 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: Well these kids, and a lot of them come out 256 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,759 of Charlotte. Yeah, a lot of them know that they're 257 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,559 coming out of Charlotte. But if we catch them, they 258 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,559 regret being in our county, be called, we lock them up, 259 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:05,200 charge them. 260 00:17:05,799 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: So apparently CMPD with their press release that they put 261 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,079 out in their news conference that they did apparently they're 262 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,839 they're claiming and maybe you can confirm they're claiming that 263 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:21,920 when they step up police presence and target particular areas 264 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,680 and crimes and criminal activity with more law enforcement, that 265 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:29,319 the crime goes down. Have you ever heard of this? 266 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: You know, you know, you know what, hard meat. I don't 267 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,640 have to think about that a little bit. If you 268 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,119 have more law enforcement, and you have more enforcement, it 269 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,200 helps crime rate. 270 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,319 Speaker 1: That's what I've I'm just throwing it to you. You're 271 00:17:46,759 --> 00:17:49,039 if you if you were unaware, like this could be, 272 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,519 this could be really. 273 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:52,599 Speaker 2: Innovating, something news you could think about. 274 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:56,759 Speaker 1: Right, That's it's pretty amazing. It's and so you've got obviously, 275 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,160 I mean we're being sarcastic here. Obviously sheriff knows this. Uh. 276 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,519 It does seem odd that we have to relearn this 277 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,160 lesson about every twenty to thirty years though for some reason. 278 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: Well, we don't have to relearn that thing. 279 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: We've not stopped doing it. 280 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: We've kept our crime rate low, we've kept actually the 281 00:18:14,039 --> 00:18:18,039 breaking the entrings low. We had one murder here last year, 282 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:26,359 so we've not changed the way we operate. We have 283 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,920 people that know where all the break ins are happening. 284 00:18:31,079 --> 00:18:33,240 And we try to target. We try to put extra 285 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:36,279 patrol in there, we put everything we need in there 286 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,440 to try to catch them, and we do catch a. 287 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: Lot of them, and then we prosecute them. There's I 288 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,519 think that's the key here. I think that is a 289 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:47,680 big part of the equation. 290 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:53,759 Speaker 2: Our district attorneys very pro law enforcement supports our agency 291 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,839 as well as all the agencies in the county, and 292 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:04,279 we've not adapted those philosophies to just not arrest them. 293 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Sheriff ed Kathy, we appreciate you joining us on 294 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,799 the program here. Thanks for all of your work at 295 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:13,240 the Sheriff's office and with the crime stoppers and the 296 00:19:13,279 --> 00:19:16,200 barbecue here. Thanks for your service. We appreciate it. 297 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I appreciate you all being here from WBT. 298 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,920 Absolutely all right. 299 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: I hope you had a happy holiday season. But tell 300 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,279 me if something like this happened at your house. Your 301 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:28,720 family and friends are gathered around, maybe y'all are in 302 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:32,400 the living room, you're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing, and then 303 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,359 somebody says, hey, Dad, remember those old VHS tapes? Did 304 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,039 you ever get them transferred? And then the room gets 305 00:19:39,079 --> 00:19:42,640 all quiet. 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Talk about a memorable gift. So do what 317 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:20,440 I did. Trust the experts at creat a Video, conveniently 318 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,839 located in mint Hill right off I four eighty five 319 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:29,279 and online at create avideo dot com. So the AP reports. 320 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,960 Within minutes of his inauguration Monday, new Missouri Governor Mike 321 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:39,559 Keho is expected to issue a variety of orders targeting crime. 322 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:46,839 The tone setting move reflects a national trend. After a 323 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:52,279 period of relaxed sentencing laws, a tough on crime approach 324 00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:59,279 is back in political favor in the US. Now you 325 00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:03,119 know me, I am a why guy, I like to 326 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,160 ask why, and so when I read that last sentence 327 00:21:07,839 --> 00:21:13,599 after a period of relaxed sentencing laws, why why was 328 00:21:13,599 --> 00:21:20,440 there a period of relaxed sentencing laws? What contributed to that? 329 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:24,279 What prompted that? And then it says a tough on 330 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,440 crime approach is back in political favor once again. Why 331 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:33,559 why would it be back in favor? What happened? Why 332 00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:39,480 the change? Yeah, so this is what Sheriff Cathy was 333 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,799 talking about. There was the state law changed in North 334 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:48,000 Carolina under Republicans, the raise the age law where they're like, 335 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,880 we're the last state in America that still prosecutes, you know, 336 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,680 sixteen and seventeen year olds as adults, and so they 337 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:02,599 passed this law the age made at eighteen. Then all 338 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,599 of a sudden, you'll never guess what happened, a whole 339 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,480 bunch of sixteen and seventeen year olds started skating on 340 00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:12,799 violent offenses. So then they came back and they were like, Okay, 341 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,599 we're gonna add some more offenses to the list where 342 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:18,319 you can still be charged as an adult if you're 343 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,839 sixteen or seventeen and you commit these types of really bad, 344 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:27,119 egregious crimes. So the criminal enterprise is criminals do know this. 345 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:31,119 They know that if you don't penalize people under the 346 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,319 age of eighteen, then they will get people under the 347 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,039 age of eighteen to do parts of the operation for 348 00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:40,119 them that carry the most risk for incarceration for them 349 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,119 if they get caught doing it. Republicans and Democrats alike 350 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,599 the AP reports are promoting anti crime initiatives as a 351 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,759 new year of lawmaking gets underway in state capitols. That 352 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:56,160 comes after voters in several states approved ballot measures in 353 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,119 the full imposing stricter penalties for crimes ranging from shoplifting 354 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:08,720 to deadly drug dealing. Once again, why why would voters 355 00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:12,880 in several states approve ballot measures to impose stricter penalties 356 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,200 What happened? In some states? The anti crime measures are 357 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,480 intertwined with efforts to crack down on those living in 358 00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:24,839 the US illegally la burring, an emptis of President elect 359 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,319 Donald Trump. Many also propose tougher penalties for trafficking fentanyl. 360 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,240 Asynthetic opioid killed tens of thousands of overdose deaths every 361 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:38,359 single year. Other measures go beyond that. Some seek stricter 362 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:42,920 sentences for sexual offenses involving children, violent crimes or retail 363 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,960 theft rings and those have gained attention from social media 364 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:53,839 videos showing shoplifting crews rampaging through stores. So, once again, 365 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:59,920 why what is prompting people to choose to get quo 366 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,519 tough on crime? In Maryland, Democratic State Representative or sorry, 367 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:09,519 State Senator Ron Watson is sponsoring legislation he said would 368 00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:13,480 let prosecutors file felony charges against everybody involved in a 369 00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:17,319 group theft if the total value exceeds fifteen hundred dollars, 370 00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:23,000 even if each person stole less than the fifteen hundred dollars. So, like, 371 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:26,000 if you are part of one of these retail theft 372 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,559 gangs that go into a store and you know, raid 373 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,640 the shelves and pull a bunch of stuff off the 374 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,920 shelves and run out, and you're one of ten people, 375 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,799 and all ten people steal two hundred dollars worth of items, 376 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:44,920 that would be what a total of two grand, and 377 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,720 that would mean you get felony charge. Criminals have become 378 00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:53,599 emboldened because they can get away with things and pretty 379 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,440 much get a slap on the wrist. Watson said, violent 380 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:58,920 or nonviolent, a crime is a crime, and that crime 381 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,960 needs to be punished. This is one of the things too, 382 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,759 when you get when you're victimized by crime, which is 383 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,079 a quote unquote nonviolent crime, that's a property crime, and 384 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,200 people think that somehow or another, that there isn't any 385 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,519 kind of you know, without getting all lefty on you, 386 00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:17,000 but trauma, right that there isn't some trauma involved in that, 387 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:22,480 And there is. There absolutely is. People's homes get burglarized, 388 00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:26,279 right there is. You never feel safe in your home again, 389 00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:29,720 trust me on that one personal experience. You'll never feel 390 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,160 as safe in your home again once you get burglarized. 391 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,799 If you're working in a store and a bunch of 392 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,799 hooligans rush in and steal a bunch of stuff and 393 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,519 terrorize people as they're you know, menacingly threatening them and 394 00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:47,079 grabbing stuff and running all around the store, right, that's 395 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,000 a scary situation because here's the thing. You may know 396 00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:52,920 you're going in there to just steal some clothing. I 397 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,119 don't know you're coming in here to just steal clothing. 398 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,640 I don't know that. All I see is ten fifteen 399 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,799 people storm the gate and start grabbing everything in sight. 400 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,480 I have no idea what your intention is. It's obviously 401 00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:09,519 to engage in some sort of criminal activity. So I 402 00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:13,359 don't know that that's a scary thing. So the federal 403 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,119 government in many states have backed away from the nineteen 404 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,240 eighties policies that imposed harsher I don't know why they're 405 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,440 doing this, like drug crimes in spotlight. This is the 406 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,640 associated press. So of course they're going to go to 407 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,599 the different sentences for crack cocaine versus powder cocaine from 408 00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:33,440 the nineteen eighties, as civil rights activists noted a disproportionate 409 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,119 impact on minorities. But the police chief of the Salt 410 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,759 Lake City suburb of Roy that's the name of the town, said, 411 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:47,079 these sentencing enhancements for fentanyl are justified. See so it's like, well, whoa, well, 412 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,920 I don't know if we can do these, you know, 413 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:53,400 increased harsher penalties for fentanyl because remember the whole crack 414 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:57,839 versus powder coke thing, I mean, you know, racism. You 415 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,880 are aware that there's a difference between fentanyl and crack. 416 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:05,960 You do know that, right. Many types of crimes rose 417 00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:10,519 during the coronavirus pandemic, according to the AP story. More recently, 418 00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:12,759 the rates of violent crimes and many property crimes have 419 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:18,119 trended back down. However, shoplifting remains above pre pandemic levels. 420 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,599 This is according to the Council on Criminal Justice that 421 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,599 is a non partisan think tank. But people's sense of 422 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:30,119 security is not necessarily tied to statistics. You hear CMPD 423 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,880 Police Chief Johnny Jennings say this sort of thing all 424 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,480 the time, where he says, you know, if they don't 425 00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:37,920 think they're safe. I think Malcolm Graham's city councilman has 426 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,359 said this as well. If people don't believe they're safe, 427 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:46,400 that perception means that like that they're not doing their job. 428 00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:48,599 Police and the courts are not doing their job, and 429 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,400 police get I think they get tagged with all the 430 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,759 responsibility for this when oftentimes they arrest people and then 431 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:58,519 they go before a magistrate and a magistrate looks at 432 00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,799 them and they're like, oh poor babe, and they're like, 433 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:03,000 go ahead, you can go home. Release you back into 434 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:05,599 the custody of your mommy and daddy, who obviously are 435 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,079 doing such a bang up job that you got kittye 436 00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:13,200 porn on your computer. Oh yeah, that happened literally a 437 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:20,319 case out of Mecclinburg County, Cornelius. The guy's name, eighteen 438 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,279 year old accused of distributing child porn of girls as 439 00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:28,880 young as four. He spent two hours in jail before 440 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,599 being released to his mother with no bond. Now, the 441 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,480 magistrates will tell you that in this case Brett Kimberl 442 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:43,119 the quick release, that his quick release was okay, basically 443 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,759 because look, they're just following the law, and they're trying 444 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,400 to the magistrate is just following the law, and the 445 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:50,480 purpose of the bond is to make sure that they 446 00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:52,519 show back up in court or if they are some 447 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,079 sort of a you know, existential threat or immediate threat 448 00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:00,599 to the community. Well, I would submit that the guy 449 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:04,519 who was living at home probably shouldn't have been remanded 450 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:06,559 back to the custody of the people that were supposed 451 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:10,119 to be looking after him at that home. It doesn't 452 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,960 seem like a wise move. But what do I know. 453 00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,440 I'm just a radio host. I'm no magistrate, all right. 454 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,279 If you're listening to this show, you know I try 455 00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:19,079 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 456 00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:21,200 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 457 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,440 say get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well, because 458 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,160 it's how you detect media bias. Which is why I've 459 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,519 been so impressed with ground News. It's an app, and 460 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,640 it's a website, and it combines news from around the 461 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,359 world in one place so you can compare coverage and 462 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,279 verify information. 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Your subscription then not 473 00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:16,839 only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News 474 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,480 as they make the media landscape more transparent. And by 475 00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:23,039 the way, yes, they are still doing the thirty third 476 00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:25,880 annual Union County Crime Stoppers Barbecue down here at the 477 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,920 Union County Agricultural Center. Brett winter Bill will be taken 478 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:36,359 over the con after I am done. Seven oh four, five, 479 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,480 seven oh eleven ten. Got an email here to Pete 480 00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:43,640 at vpeteclenarshow dot Com from John, who says, wait, I 481 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,559 am confused. Are you saying that defunding the police and 482 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:52,400 shifting their funds to social programs did not reduce crime? 483 00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:57,119 How was this possible? We had social policy geniuses like 484 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,599 Braxton Winston and councilwoman Dimple Ajmerah tell us that it would. 485 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,039 I know, it's so weird. Is it possible? And I'm 486 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:11,519 just spitballing here though, John, Is it possible that just 487 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:15,319 because you win a seat on a city council doesn't 488 00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:20,440 mean you know how to actually do police work. It 489 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,480 doesn't mean you know how to solve crimes. That's just 490 00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:32,079 I'm just spitball in here. It's just an idea. So 491 00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:37,960 the federal government and many states backed away from the 492 00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:43,599 nineteen eighties policies. They don't say why in this Associated 493 00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:47,799 Press story. But now there is this newfound respect for 494 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,359 getting tough on crime. Many types of crimes rose during 495 00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:54,240 the pandemic, as I mentioned, but people's sense of security 496 00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:59,000 isn't necessarily tied to the statistics. High profile crimes such 497 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,079 as the New Year's they attack in New Orleans, the 498 00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:03,400 burning of a woman on the subway in New York, 499 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,559 the fatal shooting of the United Healthcare CEO. Right, all 500 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:13,440 of these things impact the perception of public safety. And look, 501 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,680 that is true. I agree with this AP story on 502 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:23,400 that front. It does actually impact the perception of public safety. 503 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,119 But here's the thing. If you don't have a lot 504 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,200 of these events, then the impact is minimized. The more 505 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,000 types of events you have like this, then the more 506 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:39,400 impact it has. Adam Gelb is President and CEO of 507 00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:42,680 the Council on Criminal Justice. He said, quote, many people 508 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,400 seem to think that the reforms over the past two 509 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:53,759 decades overshot the mark and there needs to be a rebalancing. Yeah, 510 00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:56,720 that's one way to say rebalancing. Of course, there were 511 00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:59,119 some people that were saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are 512 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,680 you doing? Stop? Stop, don't do this. We remember the 513 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880 seventies and eighties. I mean it wasn't me because I 514 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,640 was like I wasn't even born. But I mean, well, 515 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,359 I wasn't born in the early seventies, but like I 516 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,240 don't remember. I just remember you didn't go to New 517 00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:15,119 York's Times Square. I remember that as a kid. You 518 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:18,559 didn't go there. It was gross, it was crime written, 519 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,440 it was nasty, So you didn't go there. And then 520 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,559 it was like, I'm down south and I'm seeing all 521 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,279 these things about New York Times Square and like all 522 00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:30,480 of these TV studios are now live in the morning 523 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,200 from there, and I'm like, why would you be in 524 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:38,240 Times Square? That's nasty? Like Holy Toledo. They really have 525 00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:43,200 made a difference there, Rudy Giuliani. California voters gave overwhelming 526 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,160 approval in November to a ballot initiative. Did you hear 527 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:51,279 about this? They voted for a ballot initiative in California 528 00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:58,400 making shoplifting a felony for repeat offenders and increasing penalties 529 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,799 for some drug charge is, including those involving fentanyl. The 530 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:08,480 measure rolled back parts of progressive law passed by voters 531 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,880 in twenty fourteen that downgraded several nonviolent crimes to misdemeanors, 532 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,719 including theft valued under nine hundred and fifty dollars and some 533 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,760 drug offenses. Right, so this is the restoration of sanity. 534 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,920 I got a message here from Russ He says, violent 535 00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:30,679 versus property crime. I understand I'm not wired like most people, 536 00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:32,960 but a few of us were jumped by a much 537 00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:36,159 larger group in college, and I have had my locked 538 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,639 car twice and office three times burgled. For me, the 539 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:45,119 invasion and removal of my stuff was much more troubling, 540 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,199 right because the thing is you don't ever know, like 541 00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:55,599 with the with the physical assault, the getting jumped by people. 542 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,559 I've had that occur to me as well, Like you 543 00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,599 just get blindsided, somebody comes at you whatever, it's like 544 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:02,599 here now, and then the threat is over. And it's 545 00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:04,599 very easy to sort of say, like this was this 546 00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:07,559 one isolated event. Somebody gets into your house. You have 547 00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:09,440 no idea what they did, You have no idea what 548 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,960 they took, because like it was years later when you 549 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,519 start realizing some of the stuff that is missing and 550 00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,760 you're like, whatever happened to that thing? You know? And 551 00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:19,920 you got to take a guess. You're like, I guess 552 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,239 it was the burglary because I just don't know. But 553 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,880 you also don't know if they're coming back, did they 554 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,440 see something they wanted and then they're going to come back. 555 00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:33,400 In Colorado, voters approved a ballant initiative lengthening the time 556 00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:36,679 that people have to serve in prison before they can 557 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:44,320 be parolled for certain categories of murder, assault, sexual assault, kidnapping, arson, burglary, 558 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,599 and robbery. That's in Colorado, voters approve that. In Arizona, 559 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,199 voters approved measures boosting penalties for deadly fentanel sales and 560 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:03,280 mandating life imprisonment for certain child ex trafficking crimes. Yes, 561 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,280 I'm okay with that too. I don't think you recover 562 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,440 from that. Like I don't think you're if you're sex 563 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,280 trafficking children, I don't think like I think you're broken. 564 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,920 You're done. That's it. You need to be taken away. 565 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,119 Other states have also backtracked just years after relaxing sentencing laws. 566 00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:22,800 I think, guys, it may have. This is maybe as 567 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,880 close as we get to an admission that they were wrong. 568 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,320 All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 569 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,360 so much for listening. I could not do the show 570 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,920 without your support and the support of the businesses that 571 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,079 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 572 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:36,760 them too and tell them you heard it here. 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