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Speaker 2: Or do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is
Speaker 2: only on the ticket because she is a black woman.
Speaker 3: Well, I can say no. I think it's maybe a
Speaker 3: little bit different. So I've known her a long time, indirectly,
Speaker 3: not directly very much, and she was always of Indian heritage,
Speaker 3: and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know
Speaker 3: she was black until a number of years ago when
Speaker 3: she happened to turn black. And now she wants to
Speaker 3: be known as black. So I don't know. Is she
Speaker 3: Indian or is she black?
Speaker 2: She is always black college.
Speaker 3: I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because she
Speaker 3: was Indian all the way and then all of a
Speaker 3: sudden she made a turn and she went she became
Speaker 3: a black.
Speaker 4: Just to be clear, sir, I think somebody should look
Speaker 4: into that too.
Speaker 3: When you ask a continue in a very hostile, nasty town.
Speaker 5: Well, Donald, I do hope you'll reconsider to meet me
Speaker 5: on the debate stage, because, as the saying goes, if
Speaker 5: you've got something to say.
Speaker 4: It's getting good. Woo baby, is it getting good? I
Speaker 4: don't know. Maybe I'm fired up. I just got back
Speaker 4: from Vegas. We're gonna I'm gonna talk about that coming
Speaker 4: up here on WBC's Night Side. I'm feeling a little crazy.
Speaker 4: I'm feeling a little snake eyes baby. It's Friday night.
Speaker 4: Rob's behind the glass. We're ready to rock and roll.
Speaker 4: Rob By the way. I'm Gary Tagway for Dan Rade.
Speaker 4: This is a nice side, Rob. I want you to start.
Speaker 4: Can we do the Trump thing again? And I got
Speaker 4: to listen to this again? Just run.
Speaker 2: Do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is only
Speaker 2: on the ticket because she is a black woman?
Speaker 3: Well, I can say no. I think it's maybe a
Speaker 3: little bit different. So I've known her a long time, indirectly,
Speaker 3: not directly very much.
Speaker 4: Okay, stop that. What the hell does that mean? What
Speaker 4: the hell does that mean? If you follow California politics,
Speaker 4: I've known her indirectly too. What do you mean indirectly?
Speaker 4: What is this? The six degrees of separation with Kamala Harris?
Speaker 4: What does that mean? All right? Go ahead, Rob, please,
Speaker 4: you can play the rest.
Speaker 2: Well Harris is only on the ticket because she is
Speaker 2: a black woman.
Speaker 3: Well I can say no. I think it's maybe a
Speaker 3: little bit different. So I've known her a long time, indirectly,
Speaker 3: not directly very much, and she was always of Indian heritage,
Speaker 3: and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know
Speaker 3: she was black until a number of years ago when
Speaker 3: she happened to turn black. And now she wants to
Speaker 3: be known as black. So I don't know is she
Speaker 3: Indian or is she blacky?
Speaker 4: Stop it, stop and stop and stop it. That's beyond fight.
Speaker 4: How stupid does he sound? How stupid does this man sound?
Speaker 4: And the problem is people, if, oh my god, he's
Speaker 4: going to talk himself out of the race. He has
Speaker 4: completely talked himself out of the race already, and his listen, man,
Speaker 4: his number two is not helping him, that is for sure.
Speaker 4: All Trump has to do is shut up because he
Speaker 4: already has his people. He already has his people, and
Speaker 4: you know what, he may get a few more if
Speaker 4: he just kept his mouth shut. There may be some
Speaker 4: There may be some moderates that go, you know what,
Speaker 4: some moderates with money, some moderates with money that go, boy.
Speaker 4: I don't know about Vice President Harrison. She doesn't have
Speaker 4: the experience. President Trump has been in the White House.
Speaker 4: He's been there. He may benefit my tax bracket. I'm
Speaker 4: economically conservative, socially liberal, but I'll go with my pocket book,
Speaker 4: so go with him because I don't trust her economically.
Speaker 4: That's how he would win. Every time he and his
Speaker 4: running mate open their mouth, people go, oh my god.
Speaker 4: People who are on the fence. People who are on
Speaker 4: the fence, not people who already believe in Trump. You
Speaker 4: guys are already there. That's fine. I respect you. You
Speaker 4: have your right to vote. You have every right to
Speaker 4: vote for who you want to. I'm not going to
Speaker 4: tell you you're wrong. I'm just telling you how I feel.
Speaker 4: But he's got his people, and he was killing Biden,
Speaker 4: and now their neck and neck. And don't forget about
Speaker 4: the brats. I told you about the brats. The eighteen
Speaker 4: to twenty one year olds who weren't involved in polls
Speaker 4: and probably didn't even consider voting because of what's happening
Speaker 4: on social media and TikTok and all that will probably
Speaker 4: vote for Vice President Harris. Harris because they think she's
Speaker 4: which is kind of cool and messy and edgy, one
Speaker 4: of them. They won't know anything about the policies or
Speaker 4: the facts, they'll just like her because she's Brat. So
Speaker 4: the new people, the new voters, or the people who
Speaker 4: are on the fence, are probably going to go to
Speaker 4: Harris because Trump keeps saying stuff like this. You're not
Speaker 4: going to change the mind of a Trump voter. That's fine,
Speaker 4: I respect your opinion. Great, but he's killing himself. He
Speaker 4: can't keep his mouth shut. Now. She may still mess up,
Speaker 4: she can screw up, she can say something. If I'm
Speaker 4: Trump's people and you can't do it, you can't control
Speaker 4: the guy. It's like, let her make the mistake. Let
Speaker 4: her make the mistake, be a kinder, gentler Trump, and
Speaker 4: you would get the moderate vote. He really would. He
Speaker 4: would get the moderate vote with money because people wouldn't
Speaker 4: trust her experiences. But he keeps talking about things like this,
Speaker 4: and Jade Vance talks about you know, you know, parent
Speaker 4: cat women, you know people who don't have kids. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: I have I have kids. I but and I I've
Speaker 4: never really thought about not having kids. Well, I guess
Speaker 4: some days when they drive me crazy. But you know,
Speaker 4: I've never judged anybody who doesn't have kids, but now
Speaker 4: I think they're I've never really thought about it. I
Speaker 4: sit there and I look at a guy like Jade Vance,
Speaker 4: I go, what are you talking about the cat women
Speaker 4: out there who have cats instead of kids? That they're
Speaker 4: that they're what Secondary says, Anyways, I don't think. I
Speaker 4: don't think vice president the vice president really matters. We
Speaker 4: will probably get into that later on. I really don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think the vice president matters. It's now they
Speaker 4: talk about Shapiro. They start in Pennsylvania, she starts her
Speaker 4: her big tour. I guess at Pennsylvania, which is Shapiro state.
Speaker 4: And he's got a sixty plus positive vity rate approve
Speaker 4: of rating. But he's Jewish? So is that going to
Speaker 4: be a problem? So now you know? Then Trump goes
Speaker 4: out and basically say, and I'm paraphrasing said, I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna say it because I'm not going to paraphrase. I
Speaker 4: have to look up the quote exactly. I just I
Speaker 4: had a brain cramp. So I'm not going to go there.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to screw that up. I'm not I'm
Speaker 4: going to say exactly what he said. But will that
Speaker 4: hurt her if she has a Jewish present? God? I
Speaker 4: hope not. My God, I hope we're beyond that. I
Speaker 4: you know, to me, we're all Americans. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 4: don't mean to get you. We are Trump's an American,
Speaker 4: Shapiro's an American, Harris is an American. You were born here,
Speaker 4: You're an American. We all have various heritages, okay, we do,
Speaker 4: but we were all born here. We're all Americans. I'm
Speaker 4: tired of this. I hate that. Oh my god, I
Speaker 4: hate that. I hate that. She's any and she's African American,
Speaker 4: he's Jewish. We're Americans. We were born here, we live here,
Speaker 4: we pay our taxes. These people want to govern here.
Speaker 4: Cut the crap with that. Period. But if Donald keeps
Speaker 4: if President Trump keeps talking, He's going to talk himself
Speaker 4: right out of this election. He really is. He may
Speaker 4: be forced a debater. He may be forced a debater.
Speaker 4: I have some thoughts, by the way, and I got
Speaker 4: some more stuff on Harris. Then I gotta tell you
Speaker 4: about my quick trip to Vegas, Baby Vegas, Vegas. I'ment
Speaker 4: crazy in Vegas. You wouldn't believe how much money I
Speaker 4: lost in Vegas. I will tell you coming up. And
Speaker 4: another thought in the presidential election eight thirty, we do
Speaker 4: Olympics with my old buddy Trendy Kuznarek nine o'clock. Rich Kimball,
Speaker 4: educator and broadcaster in the Youth of America. A documentary
Speaker 4: Unseen Innocents, an innocent man convicted. We'll discuss that and
Speaker 4: our buddy Am Metler, he's the only moderate in California.
Speaker 4: We'll join us at eleven right here on wz's Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Night Side Studios.
Speaker 4: I'm WBZ News Radio Garry Taguay for day tonight to
Speaker 4: Friday night. I'm back from Vegas. I'm feeling a little
Speaker 4: crazy of just warning you. That's all. I'm just warning you, Okay,
Speaker 4: I could get a little nuts now. Well, I don't
Speaker 4: really have a horse in the race. I gotta be
Speaker 4: honest with there. With the presidency, I've told you that
Speaker 4: it's I just can't. I just can't vote for President
Speaker 4: Trump again because of the things he says and because
Speaker 4: of what happened on January sixth. You know, you can
Speaker 4: make arguments about the economy, you can make arguments, but taxes, conservatives,
Speaker 4: on and on and on and on. I have no
Speaker 4: idea if Kamala Harris will be a good president. I
Speaker 4: have no clue. I really don't. I don't know, don't know,
Speaker 4: you know, but I did want to see something happen
Speaker 4: at the Democratic convention. So we got word today that
Speaker 4: she's in. She's got the nod. There will be no competition,
Speaker 4: and we knew that, but I thought it would be
Speaker 4: fun to have a good old fashioned party, you know,
Speaker 4: let's everybody throw their hat another ring, make the decision.
Speaker 4: Then at the convention the way it's supposed to be,
Speaker 4: as opposed to a four day infomercial, A complete waste
Speaker 4: of money. And you guys know how I feel about that,
Speaker 4: that the money should be used to feed the hungry,
Speaker 4: in the poor, or give it to veterans in need,
Speaker 4: you know. But the Republican convention, the money that was
Speaker 4: spent on that, my god, Hey, Republics, give it to veterans.
Speaker 4: Take don't have the convention. Just have Donald Trump make
Speaker 4: an acceptance speech, say thank you very much, great and
Speaker 4: give them money to veterans. And you know what, he'd
Speaker 4: probably win if you did that same thing with Democrats.
Speaker 4: You know, Kamala is in, why are we going to
Speaker 4: have this party? Why are we going to have this convention?
Speaker 4: I wanted to see Shapiro debater I wanted to see
Speaker 4: something going on. The guy from Kentucky, What about the
Speaker 4: guy from Arizona and so forth, Let's have some fun. Nope, nope, nope, no,
Speaker 4: and do not. And I've had this argument with everybody.
Speaker 4: I understand, I'm the lone wolf. Do not tell me
Speaker 4: that you needed to make a decision right away so
Speaker 4: she could catch up to Trump. She caught up to
Speaker 4: Trump in daze. In days they made the call boom.
Speaker 4: Because of the way we communicate, because of the way
Speaker 4: we are accustomed to social media, you could you could
Speaker 4: have a candidate jump in the race a week ahead
Speaker 4: of time and make a run because we have the
Speaker 4: attention span of a p that's it. If you get
Speaker 4: a candidate and if you said, okay, I want you
Speaker 4: to run twelve seconds before somebody votes, you might get
Speaker 4: in because that's their attention span. So you could have
Speaker 4: had a good old fashioned knockdown, drag out fight at
Speaker 4: the Democratic Convention, which would have been awesome. You know,
Speaker 4: some name calling, some good debates ideas, and at the
Speaker 4: end everybody comes together in hugs, group hugging. They go
Speaker 4: get say we're gonna go get Trump. Nope, nope, We're
Speaker 4: gonna be like the Republicans and just waste a bunch
Speaker 4: of money and have a coronation for the person we
Speaker 4: already know we're gonna try to get into the White House.
Speaker 4: A complete The conventions are a complete waste of money
Speaker 4: as far as I'm concerning. Look, if you're the Democrats,
Speaker 4: all your new voters are coming from TikTok. Do you
Speaker 4: think the brats are gonna watch the Democratic Convention? They're
Speaker 4: all watching TikTok. That's how the TikTok, I'm not I'm
Speaker 4: not kidding, TikTok could determine your next president. Think about that. People,
Speaker 4: All right, rob let's roll the King. I'm not a
Speaker 4: big Vegas guy. A lot of people are. I've been
Speaker 4: to Vegas twice in my life, and the first time
Speaker 4: was to cover of Johnny Roweis fight Johnny Riggs, the
Speaker 4: great local fighter, good Man, Norman Stone, his whole crew.
Speaker 4: It was a great run, man, great run. Local guys
Speaker 4: won the championship, had some fights against holy Field. It
Speaker 4: was a great, great time to be a sportscaster to
Speaker 4: carry those guys. But I got stuck out there. We
Speaker 4: got stranded in there because of a snowstorm. Back here.
Speaker 4: We couldn't get in. I don't gamble, so I got
Speaker 4: a little tired of it. But a friend of my
Speaker 4: Tory Champagne, who is going to be a guest on
Speaker 4: the show later on in September when he has the time,
Speaker 4: because he's been in Vegas. He's out there hanging with
Speaker 4: the big people. He's a local guy who's done very well,
Speaker 4: and he directed a movie called Rhythm Masters. It's gonna
Speaker 4: be on ESPN coming up in the middle of the month.
Speaker 4: I've not Tory for a long time. He used to
Speaker 4: work with him at Comcast NBC Sports Boston. Now he's
Speaker 4: down at ESPN, so he has this assignment. He has
Speaker 4: to work with Mickey Hart, one of the drummers are
Speaker 4: the Grateful Dead, who has this theory about the rhythm
Speaker 4: of sports and how the rhythm of sports and the
Speaker 4: rhythm and life are all intertwined. He who knows the rhythm,
Speaker 4: who excuse me, Almer Fudd, He knows the rhythm, knows
Speaker 4: the world. So Mickey Hart did this documentary Toy directed
Speaker 4: about the connection between rhythm and sports, and he talks
Speaker 4: to a ton of great people and he makes a
Speaker 4: very good point. Some of the athletes get very deep
Speaker 4: and they talk about rhythm and they talk about being
Speaker 4: in the zone, and it's just entertaining as hell because
Speaker 4: you know, here you have Mickey Hart is eighty year old,
Speaker 4: grateful dead drummer who is still going strong talking about
Speaker 4: how he loves sports and interviewing all these athletes like
Speaker 4: Joe Montana, Bob Coosey. Bob Coosey's on the same page
Speaker 4: as the grateful dad saying absolutely there is a rhythm
Speaker 4: in music and a rhythm in sports, and they are intertwined.
Speaker 4: So it's great stuff. Shout out to Tom Forcello, director
Speaker 4: of photography, who did a terrific job Southia Kid. He
Speaker 4: Dave Lynch, the editor. So we're gonna talk to Tory
Speaker 4: about that coming up with September, So keep an eye
Speaker 4: on that. That's coming out in mid August on ESPN.
Speaker 4: So that was that's the reason I went out to
Speaker 4: to see this. So I took my son. My son
Speaker 4: has a stash that is yep, he's nineteen years old
Speaker 4: and it's a porn stash. I'm like, what are you
Speaker 4: doing with that? He goes, Dad, They're in now. I'm
Speaker 4: told mustachers are coming back. He looks like that guy
Speaker 4: on a Reno nine to one one, you know, with
Speaker 4: the mustache and he's sporting stash and I guess I'm
Speaker 4: told stashes are coming back. I think he wants to
Speaker 4: try to look twenty one, you know, but I haven't really,
Speaker 4: you know, pinned him on that one. And so we
Speaker 4: went out. And I will say this as a parent,
Speaker 4: if you have the opportunity to do something with your
Speaker 4: kids before they leave the nest, and it doesn't have
Speaker 4: to be a trip to Vegas. It could be a
Speaker 4: trip to the beach. It could be a day trip
Speaker 4: in the Boston, it could be where you're both adults,
Speaker 4: and maybe you have multiple kids, try to do it
Speaker 4: with each one of them. It's great because as we
Speaker 4: went on this adventure together, our relationship has completely done
Speaker 4: a oneint eighty. I am no longer leading him. He's
Speaker 4: leading me. Let's go do the slots. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't do this. He does the slots. He throws
Speaker 4: in a ten. We're doing the slots. We're up. We're up.
Speaker 4: We got thirty. Hey, listen to high rollers. We're up
Speaker 4: to thirty, and we go back down to twenty. Then
Speaker 4: we're back up to thirty five, and then we get all
Speaker 4: the way to fifteen and he learns. He leads to
Speaker 4: me and he says, look, he said, if we get
Speaker 4: to one hundred, will cash out. I said, okay, I'm in.
Speaker 4: We lost it all. We lost the fifty bucks. But
Speaker 4: like for that one hour, we just had a blast,
Speaker 4: had a blast. And I was out there with my buddy.
Speaker 4: I wasn't. I mean, I was with my son. But
Speaker 4: you know, he's nineteen going on twenty years old, college
Speaker 4: all that stuff. He's leading the way. Let's go do this,
Speaker 4: Let's go do that, Let's check this out. Let's go
Speaker 4: to Top Golf, which is great here. We know Top Golf's
Speaker 4: great in the Boston area, but the one on Vegas,
Speaker 4: holy cow. They got a swim pool and everything. I
Speaker 4: might it's fantastic. The sphere is crazy with a grateful
Speaker 4: dead or player. But we decided to do the Top Golf.
Speaker 4: It was a court trip instead of the spear and
Speaker 4: we just walked the strip. The thing about Vegas is
Speaker 4: if you walk around and you do the people watching,
Speaker 4: it is amazing. Yes, Rob, I got propositioned by a hooker.
Speaker 4: I did. It might have been my good looks. I
Speaker 4: don't know, but I was walking back to my room
Speaker 4: and she must have been desperate or something. She said, hey, babe,
Speaker 4: hey baby, I was with my son. He laughed his
Speaker 4: ass off. Hey babe, I'm like, yes, how can I
Speaker 4: help you? I said, I'm going to enjoy this. I'm
Speaker 4: I'm obviously I'm not going to partake in this. I'm
Speaker 4: too cheap and oh, by the way, I'm a happily
Speaker 4: married man and it's just not my thing. But she
Speaker 4: put on the she put on the hard cell. And
Speaker 4: as a guy who's raised three kids and you know,
Speaker 4: as a family, and you know, when you're the dad,
Speaker 4: you're kind of the last on the line. You know,
Speaker 4: you're the you gotta you're the dad and the mom.
Speaker 4: You take care of everybody else. But if somebody compliments
Speaker 4: you or just insinuates, they'd like to do something with you,
Speaker 4: even though it's totally for commerce and my looks have
Speaker 4: nothing to do with it. For ten seconds, it's an
Speaker 4: ego boost. And then I think when she actually she
Speaker 4: came up, she was like, hey baby, hey baby, come on,
Speaker 4: come on. I think I started to run. I think, okay,
Speaker 4: let's run to the elevator. So those are my thoughts
Speaker 4: on what's going on with the presidential situation and why
Speaker 4: I wish there was a democratic convention because it would
Speaker 4: be a great party and our conventions a bit just
Speaker 4: basically a waste of money. But nobody listens to me.
Speaker 4: That's okay, Well, thank you for listening to me. And
Speaker 4: our trip to Vegas. Uh, just not into the gambling thing.
Speaker 4: Totally bored by it. Totally bored by it. And uh,
Speaker 4: I guess if you want to go, I'm maybe good
Speaker 4: for a couple of days, see a show, hett a
Speaker 4: good restaurant, get some sun, hit top golf, and come home.
Speaker 4: The Olympics. Oh my, the Olympics of Paris. What could
Speaker 4: have been These Olympics could have been in Boston. Yeah,
Speaker 4: probably not. There is something about the Olympic Games being
Speaker 4: in a European city that I find very romantic. Triny
Speaker 4: because Erik, I Goo, sorry Trenny and Sean he Trenny
Speaker 4: Casey from NBC Sports, it's gonna join us. She's coming up.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get her thoughts because Trenning is also a
Speaker 4: major advocate from mental health and I wanted to talk
Speaker 4: to her about Simone Biles and also Sue to Lee.
Speaker 4: It was come back from a physical I mean talk
Speaker 4: about the comeback kids. Amazing, amazing, amazing role models, teaching
Speaker 4: young people, teaching all of us how to face adversity.
Speaker 4: We will talk to Trenny and the Olympics coming up
Speaker 4: next right here on.
Speaker 1: WBZ it's Nightside with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio.
Speaker 4: Welcome back, Gary Tangway for Dan Ray tonight and on
Speaker 4: Night Side. So we covered what's going on in the
Speaker 4: president presidential race. I talked to you about what's going
Speaker 4: on in Vegas with the guys trip. Let's find out
Speaker 4: what's going on with the Olympics. Right now, Trenny Casey
Speaker 4: is joining us, my whole partner from NBC Sports Boston
Speaker 4: and now at NBC Sports. Trenny, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4: I know you're exhausted after such a long day.
Speaker 6: I have exhausted.
Speaker 4: Gary.
Speaker 6: I'm like I normally i'd be in bed by now,
Speaker 6: but I love you so here.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I appreciate Okay.
Speaker 4: So the reason I want to talk to you here
Speaker 4: is because what I think has happened with women gymnastics,
Speaker 4: not only it's amazing, but we have seen amazing things before,
Speaker 4: but particularly with Simone Biles and dealing with mental health.
Speaker 4: For her to be on top, and then we saw
Speaker 4: what happened in the prior Olympics and really struggle and
Speaker 4: come back like this, It's unprecedented. I've never seen an
Speaker 4: athlete do this.
Speaker 6: No, And it's like one thing to come back and
Speaker 6: to compete, but it's another to come back and completely
Speaker 6: dominate again. I mean that to me is what's so impressive.
Speaker 6: I think it's easy, like not easy, but it would
Speaker 6: it would have been, I think easy for her to
Speaker 6: walk away. She's twenty seven years old. I mean she
Speaker 6: nicknamed the team the other day the Golden Girls, a
Speaker 6: play on that you know show he loved back in
Speaker 6: the day.
Speaker 4: Here, Yo, thank you very much, Rue McClanahan, Betty.
Speaker 6: White, b arthurglek Hey, it's a great show and you
Speaker 6: can still watch it and rerun and it's awesome and
Speaker 6: I will stand by it. It's one of the best
Speaker 6: shows ever. But you know she did. It's a play
Speaker 6: on words because they are golden because they won gold again,
Speaker 6: but they're also old. They are they are you know,
Speaker 6: her and Sunny Lee and Jade Carrey they're all, you know,
Speaker 6: Jordan Childs, They're all in their twenties and she's twenty
Speaker 6: seven years old. It would have been really easy for
Speaker 6: her to just walk away, but she felt like she
Speaker 6: wanted to compete again and so for her to get
Speaker 6: over and I was, you know, I was just watching
Speaker 6: like a Netflix Netflix preview of her documentary. I mean,
Speaker 6: the twisties are no joke. It's something where you completely
Speaker 6: lose track of where you are in the air. It's scary.
Speaker 6: And for her to overcome that and do the work
Speaker 6: that she needed to do to get back into the
Speaker 6: headspace to come and do some of the toughest things
Speaker 6: anyone's ever done in gymnastics. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 6: how you call her anything but the the greatest of
Speaker 6: all time.
Speaker 4: When I have watched her during these Olympics and I
Speaker 4: think she's better than listen, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about gymnastics. I mean, but she
Speaker 4: seems to be. I don't know if she's ever been
Speaker 4: at this level where people are watching her and they're like,
Speaker 4: no one's got a shot, Like everybody's just kind of
Speaker 4: like she's gonna win it. I mean, I don't forget
Speaker 4: about it. It's it. She's at a level now that
Speaker 4: I don't think she's ever been at.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and think of like the attention that's on her
Speaker 6: and the pressure that is on her to perform at
Speaker 6: that level and then to keep exceeding even the levels
Speaker 6: that people know you can hit and exceed those expectations
Speaker 6: like that takes a special athlete, and it takes someone
Speaker 6: who really, you know, can block out the noise. Because
Speaker 6: if you, I mean, I'm sure you remember when she
Speaker 6: pulled out of a Tokyo Olympic. There were people who
Speaker 6: chastised her for it that she you know, left her
Speaker 6: teammates and the lurch and she wasn't a good teammate,
Speaker 6: and you know, she hurt their chances of winning gold,
Speaker 6: which they did. They didn't win gold was out here
Speaker 6: they were were they were the silver medalists in Tokyo,
Speaker 6: not the gold medalists, and the team competition, you know,
Speaker 6: calling herselfish and saying she was making it up and
Speaker 6: she just didn't want to be there anymore. I mean,
Speaker 6: that's a lot to handle as a twenty something and
Speaker 6: to push that all just off to the side and
Speaker 6: come back and lead your team back to Gold and
Speaker 6: to do it a little bit of I mean, I
Speaker 6: don't know how much you're on social media anymore.
Speaker 4: There, but like I try to avoid it.
Speaker 6: I know it's not it's not the greatest place on
Speaker 6: planet Earth. But she's been pretty chippy with people, you know,
Speaker 6: like just kind of sticking at like MICHAELA. Skinner, who
Speaker 6: was a former gymnast who competed. I'm forgetting that might
Speaker 6: have been a Rio, not Tokyo. She kind of took
Speaker 6: Team USA to task, saying they didn't work very hard,
Speaker 6: they were kind of lazy and all this stuff. And
Speaker 6: so if you go on some moans Instagram, she has
Speaker 6: like a post of them all with their metals or
Speaker 6: like with the flags or something, and she was like lazy,
Speaker 6: you know, untalented group wins Gold. So she's been throwing
Speaker 6: some shade at people who are, you know, talking negatively
Speaker 6: about her and this team, and I think she has
Speaker 6: the confidence to do that, and she obviously is performing
Speaker 6: enough to back it up.
Speaker 4: I don't know why anybody would talk trash about this group.
Speaker 4: I don't understand. I know, I don't get any And
Speaker 4: the other one is Lideki.
Speaker 6: You know what it is. You're jealousy, Garrett, I.
Speaker 4: Guess I don't know. It's it's such a waste of energy.
Speaker 4: But like a ladeki, you know, she gets in the
Speaker 4: pool for her race and I it's likes like a
Speaker 4: wide bother. I mean not even close.
Speaker 6: Oh, in the fifteen hundred, yeah, I mean she's aliable
Speaker 6: in the fifteen hundred, and every time she wins, she
Speaker 6: is so far ahead of everybody else in the pool.
Speaker 6: In the fifteen hundred, she has come back down to
Speaker 6: earth and somebody, I'm very I can't wait to watch
Speaker 6: her do the eight hundred tomorrow. I think it's tomorrow
Speaker 6: because that's another another distance that she dominated him. But
Speaker 6: like Summer Macintosh and the young woman from Australia whose
Speaker 6: name is escaving me right now, they've sort of caught
Speaker 6: paste with her a little bit in some things.
Speaker 3: But like.
Speaker 6: The other day when she raised the fifteen hundred heat
Speaker 6: and she finished seventeen seconds in front of like the
Speaker 6: nearest competitor, and then she went out the next that
Speaker 6: night in one gold in that event, somebody was trying
Speaker 6: to put it into perspective about how much she beats
Speaker 6: her the other competitors by and then I think about
Speaker 6: like when Tiger Woods won the US Opened by like
Speaker 6: twenty some strokes. He did that, you know, once in
Speaker 6: his career, twice in his career, Tom Brady winning a
Speaker 6: super Bowl, like he brought teams back and he won
Speaker 6: a lot of super Bowls, or Michael Jordan's, but they
Speaker 6: sort of had a claw their way. Imagine winning one
Speaker 6: event over and over and over again and not even
Speaker 6: being close to than anyone else. Yeah, the only dominant.
Speaker 4: Right right, the only it's a good point, the only
Speaker 4: maybe Tiger, like you mentioned the opener, Augusta, maybe everybody
Speaker 4: else forgets doesn't come close.
Speaker 6: But like, think about even Tiger doing that, you know, like,
Speaker 6: how what did you win twenty majors or eighteen majors?
Speaker 6: I forget what he ended up blanding on. But so
Speaker 6: out of those we'll call it twenty. Out of those
Speaker 6: twenty if three of them were by a massive margin,
Speaker 6: and the other ones were tight, and some were in
Speaker 6: a playoffs, like he still had people who would be
Speaker 6: close and push him at the end, Like she's beating
Speaker 6: everybody by so much and no one's even pushing her.
Speaker 4: Do you think athletes, do you think that what was
Speaker 4: she now and we saw it with Phelps. Felts did
Speaker 4: like four Olympics, right, I think he did four.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think he started in oh Wait and Beijing,
Speaker 6: if I remember correctly all together.
Speaker 4: By the way, did I tell you I met Michael
Speaker 4: Phelps at the garden one night?
Speaker 6: No, he's never the garden.
Speaker 4: He was about, you know, in the back of the
Speaker 4: hallway there where the locker rooms used to be where.
Speaker 4: And then he had his hat like on crooked you
Speaker 4: know how they used to wear it like in an angle.
Speaker 4: And because he's got the long torso. But he's not
Speaker 4: as tall as you think. But he's got the long torso,
Speaker 4: so I thought he'd be taller. He's like, hey, man,
Speaker 4: and I was like, hey about it? Yeah, come on,
Speaker 4: he knew me, he knew my name. I didn't. I
Speaker 4: didn't have to. Yeah anyways, but uh, but it seems
Speaker 4: that longevity is in play where prior to this, maybe
Speaker 4: in certain sports like gymnastics and so forth, if you
Speaker 4: were twenty two, you were done. I don't know if
Speaker 4: that's the case.
Speaker 6: I feel like it's it's like unheard of what she
Speaker 6: that's the other thing, like circling it back to someone
Speaker 6: Bios like twenty seven, twenty seven years old. That did
Speaker 6: used to be ancient. And actually, I you know, I
Speaker 6: have heard a lot of arguments being made. I think
Speaker 6: they're solid ones that this is the better way to
Speaker 6: do it. That you know, now you're giving these young
Speaker 6: women an opportunity to go to college, can become adult
Speaker 6: and still compete at a high level. Sure, and you know,
Speaker 6: and not like Hensley Rivera who was on the on
Speaker 6: the USA team, but she didn't didn't really participate. She
Speaker 6: faced with like she's like an alternate. She's only seventeen
Speaker 6: years old, and she wasn't she didn't play a factor
Speaker 6: at all. She didn't she you know, didn't factor into
Speaker 6: them winning the team gold at all. But now you
Speaker 6: think about it, in four years, she'll be twenty one,
Speaker 6: and you know, and she'll have an opportunity. She has
Speaker 6: an opportunity to grow and mature and become you know,
Speaker 6: mentally stronger and a better competitor.
Speaker 4: So what else do you like about the Olympics. I mean,
Speaker 4: we got the men's basketball team and we knew they'd
Speaker 4: wake up. And you know, poor Jason Tatum had to
Speaker 4: sit on the bench all Well, he'll get over it.
Speaker 6: He'll get over it. I mean, see her is just mad,
Speaker 6: right that they beat him so badly, and.
Speaker 4: They well, he's got a tough problem. I mean he's
Speaker 4: got he can only play so many guys and he
Speaker 4: does not want to be the guy.
Speaker 6: I don't buy into the conspiracy theories. I just think
Speaker 6: that he's going to be good guys and you needed
Speaker 6: to sit somebody so.
Speaker 4: And beat that the next game, it's going to happen,
Speaker 4: you know, get over it.
Speaker 6: Guys are gonna sit Everybody calm down. It's okay. They're
Speaker 6: like they're like a super team. I love feeling. I mean,
Speaker 6: I love the land. And this has been a fun
Speaker 6: assignment for me because in the past, as you know,
Speaker 6: I've always been at a venue, so like the previous
Speaker 6: two Summer Olympics that I covered, I was the tennis reporter,
Speaker 6: right and now I'm in studio, so I'm watching like
Speaker 6: I'm watching like I got super indefensing because we had
Speaker 6: the women in spoil. I didn't even know. I didn't
Speaker 6: even know that we're like three different parts of fencing.
Speaker 6: There's epa, foil, and saber and they have like slightly
Speaker 6: different rules and slightly different little sword thingies. I alad don't
Speaker 6: know that much ABOUTMS calling them sword thingies. And we
Speaker 6: had the women's team final on yesterday on e which
Speaker 6: was it was on during my anchoring shift, and the
Speaker 6: women won gold and it was the first time in
Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty years that any US fencing team,
Speaker 6: men's or women's won gold. And I was like tearing
Speaker 6: up watching it. I was like so into it. I
Speaker 6: couldn't believe that I was in. Like men's skateboarding was
Speaker 6: really exciting today. The men's ten thousand meter Grant Fisher
Speaker 6: hung there with the Ethiopians the entire time and then
Speaker 6: he had unbelievable kick at the end to get a
Speaker 6: bronze medal, only like the second guy in the last
Speaker 6: fifty six years to win any medal of any kind
Speaker 6: in the ten thousand meters has been dominated by the
Speaker 6: Africans as of late. Like there's just so many cool stories.
Speaker 6: I mean women's rugby. Have you held like women's USA
Speaker 6: women's rugby, who took bronz Aylona Mar, I am not okay,
Speaker 6: Like look up Ilonamar when when you go to your
Speaker 6: commercial break, look up Alona I l O n a
Speaker 6: mar m A h t r. She is like this
Speaker 6: six foot tall, two hundred pound athlete and her social
Speaker 6: media presence is hysterical. She's funny in there. She's an
Speaker 6: unbelievable athlete. And so USA Rugby, you know, the women
Speaker 6: makes the bronze medal game against Australia, who many thought
Speaker 6: had a chance to like maybe even be a gold
Speaker 6: medal contender this year, and they shock them and they
Speaker 6: win on this unbelievable play at the end of regulation.
Speaker 6: They win the first ever medal in USA rugby history
Speaker 6: for men's or women's sevens. And then they get a
Speaker 6: four million dollar donation from a Michelle Kang who's like
Speaker 6: a philanthropist and a sports investor to help grow the sport.
Speaker 6: Like it's just stories like that or like this. I
Speaker 6: think it's she's a shot putter for Team USA who
Speaker 6: couldn't make her rent and she puts something on Twitter
Speaker 6: and somebody swept tagged flavor flav in it and Serena
Speaker 6: Williams's husband, the guy who started read it and they
Speaker 6: paid her flip and rent for the year.
Speaker 4: It's awesome.
Speaker 6: It's just that's cool about the Olympics. It's just all
Speaker 6: these really great stories and like you, like, I think
Speaker 6: we have badminton on our air tomorrow, Like I'll probably
Speaker 6: watch it and get into some badminton tomorrow because it
Speaker 6: will be fun.
Speaker 4: A final question, did what did you think about that
Speaker 4: controversy with the Algerian boxer? Is it a main khalif?
Speaker 6: Okay, so this is a controversial take, but it should
Speaker 6: never have happened, Like we need to. I'm all for
Speaker 6: allowing people to be who they want to be, and
Speaker 6: you know, I want everyone to be able to participate
Speaker 6: in sports, but not at the expense expense of someone else,
Speaker 6: and when there's that big of a physical difference. Uh right, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: I think it's the opposite.
Speaker 4: Oh because okay, we'll film me. Okay because okay, no,
Speaker 4: I hear.
Speaker 6: So there just needs to be maybe we need to
Speaker 6: find a way to be inclusive without you know, without
Speaker 6: without having it be unfair because there are physical differences
Speaker 6: between the genders, right and I and I think that
Speaker 6: it's a very complicated.
Speaker 4: Spot.
Speaker 6: No, it's very fraught, and I know people have very
Speaker 6: strong opinions about it, but I think there needs to
Speaker 6: be some real thought about solutions of how we can
Speaker 6: make sure everyone is included and everyone has a fair shot.
Speaker 4: So did you ever think you'd be on the same
Speaker 4: network as the Kardashians.
Speaker 6: No dream come true.
Speaker 4: Trendy, I miss you. Keep up the good work, Keep
Speaker 4: up the good work.
Speaker 6: All right, make sure you watch this weekend Gary. Since
Speaker 6: you just signed out today that I was doing this,
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: I have not. I got to tell you. Listen, since
Speaker 4: I left or whatever, I have been so off the grid,
Speaker 4: and but I will do my back. I will. I
Speaker 4: will get on.
Speaker 6: I will get on, you know, like you know, sit
Speaker 6: at home with the kids in munch. I'll be on
Speaker 6: AM eleven to six, the NBC, give it, give it
Speaker 6: a let's see.
Speaker 4: All right, we'll be looking c NBC tomorrow eleven assist
Speaker 4: with Trenny Casey. We'll see. Thanks thanks for coming on.
Speaker 6: We'll say bye, all right.
Speaker 4: Trendy Casey one of the good ones. Also co hosting
Speaker 4: Sports Tonight. I think that's what they still call that
Speaker 4: show where I used to work. Right anyways, coming up
Speaker 4: at nine o'clock right here, educating our youth, Rich Kimball.
Speaker 4: This fascinates me what we should be doing with our
Speaker 4: young people on education. I have so many thoughts and
Speaker 4: I always have so many questions. It's just an insurmountable
Speaker 4: topic for me. We will revisit it at nine o'clock
Speaker 4: right here on WBC.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Way Live from the Window World
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Speaker 4: Welcome back, special thanks to Turning for joining us here
Speaker 4: on WBZ. She's doing great work with NBC, and catch
Speaker 4: her one tomorrow. Because there are so many different avenues
Speaker 4: you can watch the Olympics now, whether NBC is ce NBC, NBC,
Speaker 4: there's that online CNBC. But it's always great to see
Speaker 4: Trenny doing some stuff with the Olympics. And I'm always
Speaker 4: I have the same feeling with the Olympics every time.
Speaker 4: I never get excited until they're actually on TV. And
Speaker 4: I can't tell you I don't sit there and I
Speaker 4: watch a wall to wall. I don't. But I think
Speaker 4: what some you know, what some mobiles has done is
Speaker 4: amazing at the age of twenty seven. And I do
Speaker 4: think it would be nice if some of these athletes
Speaker 4: were a little bit older when they competed, because I
Speaker 4: think mentally they would be able to handle the situation.
Speaker 4: I think it's tough, you're nineteen twenty twenty one years old.
Speaker 4: That's hard, man, and in your career potentially over at
Speaker 4: twenty two. That sucks. That sucks. I mean she's changing
Speaker 4: the game. You know, she has changed the game. And
Speaker 4: also soon he lead to coming back from kidney disease.
Speaker 4: What she's done. And even you know, we talk about
Speaker 4: Michael Phelps too, which has been a big advocate for
Speaker 4: mental health. The poor guy, oh my god, he got
Speaker 4: caught smoking marijuana. You know where his life had been
Speaker 4: in the pool since like the age of ten, just
Speaker 4: every day boom boom boom in the stress of it all.
Speaker 4: And yes, it's worth it, because he's the greatest swimmer
Speaker 4: in history, right, I mean while he and Leadecki, I'm
Speaker 4: not smart enough to tell you which one's better. But
Speaker 4: it's very tough. It's very hard mentally to keep that
Speaker 4: up and maintain that, and I think it's easy to
Speaker 4: forget that and the way some own Biles has come
Speaker 4: back and rallied after winch she went through she could
Speaker 4: not continue, She could not continue. In the prior Olympics,
Speaker 4: State's lost gold. She took a lot of crap, and man,
Speaker 4: she is shoving it right back down your throat. She
Speaker 4: has come back with a vengeance. I mean, that's a
Speaker 4: role model right there facing adversity. Generally people don't come
Speaker 4: back like that in the Olympic Games hard, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, you can come back from an injury when
Speaker 4: you're playing a team sport, or even look at Tiger Woods.
Speaker 4: Tiger Woods has never been the same since that whole
Speaker 4: mess went down, never been the same. No, She's done it.
Speaker 4: It's I mean, it is nothing short of sensational in
Speaker 4: my opinion, it really is. I think it's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 4: Coming up later on the program here got to talk
Speaker 4: to a Rich kimberl in educating our youth and the
Speaker 4: gen Z getting a bad rap for how the approach work,
Speaker 4: including me, I have been on their ass. Rich has
Speaker 4: a different point of view, so I look forward to
Speaker 4: talking to him about that. This is an amazing story
Speaker 4: documentary coming out on this Unseen Innocent, Unseen Innocence, excuse me,
Speaker 4: a documentary about the wrong for murder conviction of Lionel
Speaker 4: Ray Ray Williams said us to fifty one years in
Speaker 4: prison in nineteen seventy nine for Stalminio's murder. So we'll
Speaker 4: talk to the film director Will hear from Ray Ray
Speaker 4: himself fifty one years convicted, and as you will see,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's amazing that the guy. I don't know how,
Speaker 4: I don't know how this guy got put in jail.
Speaker 4: Well I do know how, and it's quite disturbing, to
Speaker 4: be quite honest with you. And we'll talk to Sam
Speaker 4: Metler again. As I mentioned before, Sammy is a Hollywood writer, producer,
Speaker 4: political analyst. This guy, he's the most conservative dude I
Speaker 4: know in California, next to Arnold Towardzena. So that's why.
Speaker 4: And he's out there. He is in it. I mean,
Speaker 4: he is in Hollywood. He has to deal with all
Speaker 4: the liberals in Hollywood.