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Speaker 1: Well, welcome back, everyone to a new episode of Your

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Wrong with Molly Hemingway and David Harsani. Just as a reminder,

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if you'd like to email the show, please do so

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at radio at the Federalist dot com. We'd love to

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hear from you. Molly. That was some debate last night.

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Speaker 2: Huh oh, it was the best debate I've ever heard. Heard,

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we're seeing well, oh, you know what, It's funny I

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do say heard because and this is key, because I've

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had so many conversations with people about Kamala's faces last

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night or her hand on her chin, and I didn't

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really see it because usually what I do is I

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sit in front of the television but with my computer

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and then I'm just kind of like typing notes, so

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I'm more of a listener than a watcher. Every time

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I looked up, I actually kind of thought the visuals

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were interesting, but as usually looking up when Trump was

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making faces that sort of remind me of faces I'll

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make on television. You know, on television, you're not supposed

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to interrupt necessarily, but you might still convey your thoughts

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about something, you know, nodding your head or shaking your

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head or giving a confused look.

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Speaker 1: And it is interesting. I mean, famously to Kennedy Nixon debate,

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people who listened to it thought Nixon one. People who

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saw it thought Kennedy won, you know, the one where

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he's sweating Nixon. But I think the faces were quite

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rehearsed for Kamala, you know, she they you know, she

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had certain faces like she would laugh at things that

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were true often, but you know they were they were

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they definitely were part of her her game plan, you know,

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for the debate. And I'm not sure Trump is as uh,

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you know, thinks about these things in the same way.

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You know, true, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I actually think I think I think they both did fine.

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But I think that Trump has so much experience with

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communicating with an audience through the screen that that's just

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a that's one of those things. The more you do it,

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the better you get in it.

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Speaker 1: I should preface this whole conversation by saying, I'm often like,

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watch a debate and I'm pretty sure I think who

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won or what was good or how people react, and

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they don't see it my way, you know, So I'm

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I just want to preface this by saying I did

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not think Trump did well yesterday, But that doesn't mean

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he didn't do well in the eyes of a lot

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of people who were watching, you know what I mean.

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I don't know how they'll see it, but I think

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we should start.

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Speaker 2: Let's yeah, can we just do like a big picture

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and then we can break it down at a smaller level.

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So I kind of think. I saw a headline today

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that so the big loser of the debate was ABC News.

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That is unquestionably true. That was There have been a

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lot of really bad efforts from left wing moderators to

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shape debate results in a way that favors their political party.

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This was the worst I've ever seen, and we have

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seen many bad ones like this was so bad that

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you would have to be nonsentient to not notice it

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like it was. It was so bad. But I thought,

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Kamala did I think it. I have to admit it

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kind of went about like I expected, which also affects things.

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I kind of thought she would do fine, and she did.

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I thought he would do fine, and he did. Neither

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of them did particularly well. I don't think it changes

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the outcome of the debate or the outcome of the

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presidential I think she might get a little, you know,

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this is what was needed for the media to claim

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that she's got momentum back, and she answered questions, never

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mind that she did not have a single real question

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to answer and she was debating someone who was getting attacked.

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But I don't I just don't see it changing things

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that much. But I could be wrong. I could be

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shocked and find out that everyone thought Trump won or

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everyone thought she won. But I just thought it was

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kind of like not a big move, no big picture.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, there was an assassination attempt, a

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former president got shot out what was it a month

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ago or something, and it seems like a million years ago.

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So I don't think this debate will matter in a

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couple of weeks. I think a lot also is baked

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into the cake when it comes to Donald Trump. We've

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seen him this, you know, be like this before. I

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just don't believe anyone's surprised. There was probably more curiosity

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about how Kamala would react. But I have a lot

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of thoughts on the debate. Here look at this, these

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are my notes. This is it's going to be. I'm

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going to be completely all over the place. But it

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was one of the worst debates. I moderated debates in

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the history of presidential debates. I think it may have

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been the worst. I just say, I just say think

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because maybe I'm forgetting one, but I'm not even first.

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So I just want to say they're useless. We learned

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nothing about anybody's positions yesterday at all. Right, No one

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came out of that debate with some newfound knowledge about

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what these candidates would do or you know, or anything

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like that. You know, So these are show These are shows.

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They're not They're entertainment maybe, but they're not serious debates anymore.

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We don't have serious presidential debates anymore. Do you do

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you agree with that?

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Speaker 2: I was I'm just struck by that. I think you're

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absolutely right that I learned nothing new except I was

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really interested to learn that Kamala Harris would claim that

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she's a gun owner. And if I were a moderator,

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I would have immediately asked, of course, what kind of gun?

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Like are we talking to score gun? Are we talking

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real gun? Tell us more about this gun?

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Speaker 1: What do you pretend to have? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you are a gun owner, why have you

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done so much to get rid of gun? And why

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are you claiming you haven't when we have these examples

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of legislation that you voted for, or you know what

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but that you're right that that's the only thing I

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learned from that debate.

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Speaker 1: Well, she could have believe it. Actually, yeah, exactly, I'm

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pretty skeptical. But she can have an arsenal at home.

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It doesn't make her any less of an authoritarian when

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it comes to guns. In fact, most authoritarians have guns.

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They just don't want you to have guns. So that

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would have been something that moderators could have followed up

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that Donald Trump could also have, you know, dunked on her.

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dunk on her, her record, her history, the things she

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was saying that weren't taking advantage of. But let's just

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talk about I wanted to talk if it's okay to

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get more specific now about the fact checking. So, and

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that's always from now on in quotation marks. So when

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we're listening.

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Speaker 2: Fact checking, that's like, don't even use that term, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how else to you know, supposed fact check,

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alleged fact checking, so skewed completely at Donald Trump often misleading.

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And then I saw Daniel dale is at his name

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is CNN, that guy who's the fact checker. There. He

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said that Trump lied thirty three times, and Kamala Harris

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lied maybe once or at least once. When I will

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just give you this example. I forgot what the question

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was because she never really answered a question, which is smart,

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because she has no real policy positions. Is that or

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she has no new ones? She said Donald Trump said both.

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She repeated the both sides good people on both sides lie,

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She repeated the blood bath lie or smear, and another

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one that I don't remember. This is an answer to

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a single question. There's three right there. She lied constantly

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about his positions. For instance, she claimed that he was

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going to ban abortion, that he was going to implement

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Project twenty twenty five, on and on and on. The

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lies that I saw, they say Donald Trump lies. I

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would call them lies, I guess, but they're also quite

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often exaggerations. Everyone likes this, Everyone says this, No one

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does that. This is how he speaks, and it is misleading.

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not as how can I say specific as Kamala's lies

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which are completely and utterly just blatantly mis misleading. Right,

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I don't know, does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well this was This was what was so horrible

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about this debate and what made I mean, I just

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want to let's go even back to David Muir and

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what is her Namelyn Lindsay.

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Speaker 1: I have it here, Lindsay Davis. Who is the go on?

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Speaker 2: They were? They were annoying before they even like even

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if you take out the content, and just from a

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noise standpoint, they were smacking their gums in a way

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that was just really hard to listen to. But they

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had this condescending pause sture toward their political opponent and

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on behalf of their political ally, and it was so annoying.

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I was like, everyone has to be annoyed by this, right,

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Like it's just awful. But they were. They were lying

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in their quote unquote fact checks. They were repeating lies.

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how I can't remember which one of the partisan activists

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that was at the debate said that there is no

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law how did they put it, there's like allowing.

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Speaker 1: A abortion after birth or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Nobody said. There was so that's like you're fact checking

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something that wasn't said. Now, Donald Trump did reference a

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real thing that happened, and happened on videotape of my

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former governor Ralph Northam talking about letting children die after

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they survive abortions, which is something that happens and in

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fact even happens in Minnesota. And and where why is

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Minnesota important? Because Kamala Harris chose as her vice president

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someone who signed a bill into law that not only

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allows for children to be left to die after they

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survive abortion, it has resulted in deaths of children who

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survive abortions. So any fact checker who's going to fact

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check on something like that should probably know this thing

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that has already been reported on extensively.

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Speaker 1: Kamila Harris, as a senator running for president, voted against

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the Bensas's bill, the Born Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act

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I think it's called, and that would have compelled doctors

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to treat babies to survive abortion attempts as human beings

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and tried to save them to give them.

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Speaker 2: She voted for that, so a fact check could have

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pointed out, you had an opportunity to say what you

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claim to believe now, and you went out of your

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way to make sure that was not the law. And

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by the way, Tim Walls also once voted. He voted,

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he voted in a way would have allowed for babies

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to be protected after they were born, realized his error

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because he wants them dead, and changed his vote and

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vote after he had already cast it. That's all public

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record that if you were going to do a real

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fact check, you would know. But they don't. They're not

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fat checkers. They're propagandists and liars.

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Speaker 1: So Donald Trump actually asked her, what restrictions would you

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support on abortion? He had to ask that question because

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they won't ask that question. And she's she did not

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answer because she doesn't believe in any restrictions on abortion.

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without any you know, allowing it till the ninth month,

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till crowning. And like you say, protecting doctors who do

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you know, let babies die, you know, let babies die

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after they survive abortion. So it's incredible how misleading they

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are in abortion and her entire here's a broader thing.

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The entire higher framing of the question was completely misleading.

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Her abortion question was a lie in question, it was

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begging the question, you know, in the proper way, and

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the entire debate. This is one of my big problems

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with these debates is that everything comes from the prism

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of the left winger. It focuses on left wing concerns

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climate change January sixth, on and on, and it is

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always framed in a left wing way. So why can't

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we have a debate where each candidate picks its own

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proxy to ask questions of the other person. I mean,

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that's how these debates at the very least should go.

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Speaker 2: There too. I want to talk about how to improve debates,

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you just said about her or I don't remember who

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asked these things. Their initial question on abortion was built

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on a lie. And so the situation is in Florida,

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the people of Florida passed a law allowing or protecting

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children who are who have a heartbeat or it's like

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after six weeks or something like that, and that is

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then the people who support killing onborn children are they

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drafted an amendment that would force everyone to allow abortions

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up until the ninth month, up throughout the entire pregnancy.

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and that would remove parental rights. It is extreme beyond belief,

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and it's called Amendment for and it is one of

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the most violent attacks on humanity you know of any

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legislation out there. And they described this as Donald Trump

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supporting a six week ban or six week protection for abortion.

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And he has said that he thinks six weeks is

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too little. He's not. It's not as pro life as

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you might want to be.

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Speaker 1: For the topic is in every respect more moderate than

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Kamala Harris's on abortion in every way.

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Speaker 2: And it was framed as a as a discussion about

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a six week limit as opposed to what the legislation

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actually does, which is taxpayer funding through all nine months

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of pregnancy with no conscience protections, with no parental rights.

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Like it's that's what it actually was, and so that's

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what the lie was to begin and then it just

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kept on getting worse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's obviously not the only question that was

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framed in in that way. Like so when I say that,

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you know, it's a focus on the left wing. There

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was not a single question about education or education choice

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must much less. But they asked dom So they asked

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Donald Trump, you know about his jokes about Kamala's you know,

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race and so on.

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Speaker 2: You know, do you remember when David Muir when when

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Donald Trump responded to something by saying he had been

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sarcastic and David Muir fact checked that and said, I

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don't think you were I mean, are you kidding me?

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You're fact checking someone's stated position about their state of mind?

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Was like, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: But then so this is I'm paraphrasing, but it's like,

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Donald Trump, why are you a racist? Kamala Harris? Why

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do you think Donald Trump is a racist? Like? This

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is exactly how the questions are laid.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I do believe the question that they asked her

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after accusing Donald Trump of being this horrific evil person,

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world class history evil person. Their question to Kamala after

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they braided him for a few minutes, was Kamala, your thoughts,

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your thoughts, your thoughts? Like what a nice question to

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ask your thoughts? Are you kidding me? And like there's

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no defense of this, okay, So on that note, what

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can be done clearly having left wing propagandists lie, cheat,

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and steel is not the way to inform the public

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ahead of a presidential election. What would be a way

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to fix it?

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Speaker 1: I used to think that the best way to run

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a debate, because these are not moderators. If they are

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giving their opinions, if they only fact check certain things,

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nothing should be fact checked. In my view. By the way,

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I don't want them fact checking what Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: So, who did the Russia collusion hoax? Who did the

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Hunter Biden laptop? Who did the COVID lies. They're not

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in the position to fact check because all they've done

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is lie but go on.

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Speaker 1: But setting that aside, I don't really want and that's

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not how debates have ever worked, you know, and they

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shouldn't work this way now, pretending that Donald Trump lies

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more than other people than Kamala does is It's fine,

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do that after if you want, but let them debates

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so people can hear them. So how do we make

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it better? I used to think we should have candidates

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asking questions. I don't think that would work because they're

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it just it would be a mess. I just like

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I said before, I think each candidate, or you know,

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each campaign should be able to pick a proxy to

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ask questions of the other candidate. I think that would

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be a better way now. And I just want to

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say Harris did not answer a single question, even when

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they were good questions asked of her. She would say,

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I'll get to that in a second. That should go

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on and on and on, and never answer it. You

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can't really force a candidate to ask, you know, to

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answer a question.

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Speaker 2: That was another thing I loved. They would ask Donald

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Trump a question that was loaded with false assumptions. He

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would answer it, and that Lindsey or whatever name was,

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be like, mister, I asked you specifically to say such

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and such, and you didn't. Kamala would be asked a

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question on the economy, she would answer with a question

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about democracy, and they would say, thank you, thank you

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so much. Kamala, now another question.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Having said that, I actually think what she did was smart.

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So she recited answers to questions she wasn't asked, and

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sometimes they had literally no relationship to the question.

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Speaker 1: I asked, not even in the vicinity of the question.

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Speaker 2: If you have your best friend's employees asking the questions,

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which is the case. ABC News is run by one

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of Kamala Harris's best friends, and she the employees were

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told to help her out, and so she knew she

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had that help. You don't have to answer a question

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that you were asked. You can answer whatever you want to.

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And it made her come off better than if she

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had to think and respond to an actual question that

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was asked.

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Speaker 1: No, I for her, I think it was a good strategy.

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Because she has in an unprecedented fashion, changed every position,

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major policy positions. She has no way of answering those

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questions in any kind of, you know, reliable way. But

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I'll give it. Let me give you a quick example

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of what you're talking about. Let me give the listeners

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a quick example. When they brought up Obamacare for some reason.

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It seems like there was a there are a million

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other things to talk about, but whatever they brought up,

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they pressed him to talk about his plan to replace it,

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you know, and he says he didn't have a plan.

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I don't think his answer was great. She constantly Kamal

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and constantly said she had plans for stuff when she

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has no plan for anything. She has a vague letter

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that she sent that was less than five thousand words.

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I believe that didn't give any specifics on any plan.

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She has yet to explain why she's walked back her

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support for destroying private healthcare insurance, and yet they just

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let her get away with that. They kept pressing Donald

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Trump to answer yes or no questions. I think there

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were six times they did that, zero times for Kamala Harris.

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You know, I.

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Speaker 2: Loved Trump's line about Kamala's plan that she played her

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as from Biden and how it was like four sentences, run,

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spot run. That made me laugh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was one of the That was

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a good line.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say three things here really quickly.

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CNN did an instant poll after the debate, and they

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asked people before the debate what they thought of different

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things and what they thought after the debate. So, before

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the debate, fifty three percent of those polled thought that

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Trump would handle the economy better, thirty seven percent for Harris.

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After the debate, Trump's percentage rose two points and Harris's

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dropped two points. The New York Times has a headline

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on their site right now pundits said Harris won the debate.

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Undecided voters aren't so sure. And then Reuter's interviewed people.

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Interviewed ten people who were unsure how they were going

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to vote in the November fifth election before they watched

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the debate, so ten people undecided. Afterwards, six said they

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would vote for Trump, three for Harris, one was still undecided.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said at the top, it's I don't

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think that pundits can predict how normal people react to

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these kind of debates.

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Speaker 2: Well that's that's you and me, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah,

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But I I find these things interesting. I find it

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interesting that everyone's still like in twenty sixteen mode on

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how Trump is answering questions. But if you take like

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a big picture look from that, like one of the

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consistent themes. I'm always remembering how byron Yorick in twenty

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sixteen went to Trump rallies and then interviewed people about

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what they heard. And so when he was listening to

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the Trump speech, it just sounded meandering and all over

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the place and unfocused and weird. And then he would

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interview people as they were leaving a Trump rally, and

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they all perfectly understood what he said, what he was

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going to do, and what like the top three areas

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of focus were. And I remember that one was China

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and tariffs and one was a border wall.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I do think I just want to

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say that a lot of the times he's saying things

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that great against everything I believe in, and my sensibility

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is on tariffs and even on somewhat on immigration, and

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in my head, I'm like, no matter what good points

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Kamala thinks she's making here, people like to hear this.

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They want to hear that manufacturing jobs are being seen.

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They believe crime is up no matter what statistic you

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give them, and in some places it certainly is. So

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that kind of thing, maybe pundits I think is misleading

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or you know, or unclear, but I do think people

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understand you like to hear that kind of thing. But

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I just want to say this, he could be so

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much better. He is unfocused. I mean, at the end

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of the debate, he finally said what I think he

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should have been saying the entire time. You've been in

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office for four years? Why haven't you done anything? That

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should have been the end, That should have been the

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start of every response he gave on abortion. I just

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don't think he's fluent in that language. But he could

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have dunked on pretty well on abortion in the beginning.

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He did when he called them radicals. But then he

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goes off and starts talking about student loans, and maybe

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people understand what he means. And I kind of understand

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what he was saying about about the ban and all this,

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but he kept calling an executive you know, action of

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bill like it was just confusing to me. I guess

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maybe people understand it better. I just think he could

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be more prepared. But let me just say this, he

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definitely could be a little more, little more disciplined. The

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rally comment by Kamala was clearly just written for her

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to bait him into getting angry, and I don't think

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anyone cares what the number of people you have at

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rallies are. I just I don't know. I just felt

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like he's too unfocused and gets too I don't things

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that don't matter.

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Speaker 2: I do not want this to sound rude. I don't

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know why, but I just like don't care what people

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who hate Donald Trump think about him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can, you can say that, but there

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are many people he's not reaching out to. The people

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show up at his rallies. Those people understand what he's saying.

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That's fine. He has to win voters over who don't

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like Biden are crazy about him. So I first of all,

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I don't I mean, I don't hate him. I just

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I just don't, you know, I don't like him. There's

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a difference. I did it. I did.

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Speaker 2: There are all these people who and I think you're

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in this category who like sort of didn't you know,

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who were anti Trump in twenty sixteen, reluctantly like I

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guess he's better than Biden twenty twenty. I just don't know, Like,

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are you thinking this is group he needs to reach

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out to?

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Speaker 1: Not really, I think he needs to reach out to

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a group that aren't. Don't politics aren't their lives all

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the time. First of all, I don't want to be

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rude either. I think that just dismissing people don't like

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Donald Trump. It's not mattering. I mean, you talk about

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Kamala Harris, should they dismiss anyone who's critical of her?

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I don't think that's the way to go about this,

478
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especially if you're there's a special talk.

479
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Speaker 2: There's a special thing about the Trump analysis that I

480
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am not. Yeah, no, no, no, you're not reflexive.

481
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, though, there are people who are not reflexively

482
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or they're open open to voting for Trump, and they

483
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you know, they're not How can I say, I don't

484
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:45,319
want to insult as fans, but they're not emotionally driven

485
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,319
so much to vote for him, and they need to

486
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hear something.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not a Trump specific thing. But one

488
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of the things that I have noticed about like Dacy

489
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pundits going back twenty thirty years is they review debates

490
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:04,920
and they have this like idealized idea of how they

491
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would respond to a question from a hostile moderator, and

492
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they've never actually been in that kind of situation. So

493
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they like listen and it would be Romney or McCain

494
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,160
or Bush or whomever, and they're like, oh, he missed.

495
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,359
He should have done this instead of that. And I

496
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:26,240
was talking to someone who was comparing it to like

497
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if you're watching a baseball game and you're like, why

498
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:31,680
did he swing at that ball? And you act like

499
00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:34,079
you would do a better job. Not you, David Hersani,

500
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,720
but like, these people act like they would do a

501
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better job in that kind of situation. And I'm not

502
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sure anyone could quite be prepared for the level of

503
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mendacity and propaganda that we saw last night. And that's

504
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even if you're pretty well prepared for how bad Democrat

505
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:56,079
media are. And so when you're like, if I were

506
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up there being called a rapist and a racist and

507
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,039
worse than Hitler and everyone's lying about me, I would

508
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have been more focused and maybe you would, Like maybe

509
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you would, But I also feel like we should like

510
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people who are operating at the presidential level, whether they're

511
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Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, they're kind of like, that's

512
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like a very high level game they're playing, and there's

513
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a lot they have to like not say and do say.

514
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And I'm just not sure how I would have handled

515
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:29,400
such a situation myself.

516
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Speaker 1: I have been on the radio where someone's attacked me,

517
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,880
or been on TV where people are against you and

518
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they control the mic, let's say. And it's very difficult

519
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,920
to look good in those situations for anyone, I believe,

520
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especially since I didn't look good, so obviously no one

521
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,480
could look good. But it is difficult, right, this is

522
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going to blow your mind. I think Donald Trump wasn't

523
00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:53,200
aggressive enough yesterday. He should have when they asked him

524
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,319
a stupid, loaded question, he should have pointed out how

525
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dumb it was. He should not have said I have

526
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a concept of a plan for Obamacare. He needed to

527
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be on the attack, not on the defense.

528
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Speaker 2: Actually that's a great.

529
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Speaker 1: Example, but I wanted to quit.

530
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Speaker 2: Do you think a million people out there preparing anyone

531
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for a debate would have said you need to be

532
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:15,799
prepared to talk about Obamacare, something that John McCain and

533
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,119
the Democrats killed like eight years ago.

534
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Speaker 1: Really no, No, he should have turned that around and said,

535
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why aren't we talking about the debit?

536
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:24,039
Speaker 2: You know?

537
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Speaker 1: And he did in a way, but it was just

538
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,000
in a very roundabad way. Say listen, you know, we

539
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have these illegal immigrants. They're putting such a stress on

540
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,440
hospitals and destroying him. Why are we talking about that?

541
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,880
But more than that, I just think that in general,

542
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:39,200
you should be when someone brings up abortion, you should

543
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,680
be better prepared. I thought he started out okay, but

544
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,680
it's just all over the place. But other issues too.

545
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:47,440
But yeah, when they asked him, why did you call

546
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,160
her black or something? He should have just been immediately gone.

547
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,079
I mean they teach you this in debate and gone

548
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:53,519
to somewhere else.

549
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553
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557
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Speaker 2: I actually thought the way he answered that one was fine,

562
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Like I don't care what she is, and I really

563
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,480
even think it's interesting how she responded to that question too.

564
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:44,359
She didn't talk about being Indian American or Indian, so

565
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her mom her mom.

566
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry.

567
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Speaker 2: I also like how she was like, I was raised

568
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middle class. She doesn't mention in Canada. Not that there's

569
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anything wrong with being raised in Canada.

570
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Speaker 1: There's a lot wrong with being raised in Canada, of

571
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but gone.

572
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Speaker 2: My sister in law was raised in Canada and she's

573
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a wonderful person. I do want to say really quickly

574
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:06,359
that we got this email from someone. I won't say

575
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,799
their name because I don't know if it's okay to

576
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,880
read it, but I disagreed with part of what he said.

577
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,200
So he's like, David, I saw your ex post this

578
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:18,160
morning about Kamala's claim to be a gun owner. I

579
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,759
told my wife, if there's another debate, Trump should bait

580
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:22,920
her to make the claim again and then simply ask

581
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:26,240
what caliber. I would guess a squirt gun is about

582
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:29,240
all the firepower she's ever handled. And your comment about

583
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:32,200
what a focused candidate might ask is right on. He

584
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missed a number of opportunities last night, especially the closing statement.

585
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,759
That's the part I disagreed with. I to I'd like

586
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:40,960
to return to this email later because I have more

587
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,279
complaints with it. But I actually thought the closing statement

588
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:47,799
was what he should have been saying the whole time.

589
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And when you listen to the coverage of the independent voters,

590
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,519
they all also loved that closing statement. I just thought

591
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it happened too late in the debate.

592
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Speaker 1: Like you said, I.

593
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Speaker 2: Agree, saying it like every answer.

594
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the so Kamala Harris has abandoned I

595
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,680
would say a dozen or more serious world changing positions

596
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,640
that she's taken in the past. She has not taken

597
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:19,200
new positions. She's only rejected those. And she's been vice

598
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,359
president for almost four years, and yet she is running

599
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:26,680
as if Donald Trump's the incumbent. He cannot let that happen.

600
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He needs to stress, like he did at the end,

601
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Why didn't you do anything about this? Why didn't you

602
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,400
do like that? That is a very good messaging.

603
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that was smart of her, though, And

604
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,880
what I mean by that is she's talking about his

605
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,160
record constantly, which only reminds you that when he was

606
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,680
president everything was far far better than it is now,

607
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,200
whether that's foreign policy, border policy, economic policy. At one point,

608
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she tried to blame him for COVID, which was also wrong.

609
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:05,200
I think reminding people that that COVID caused problems for

610
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,920
the economy, it's just another reminder of, like how things

611
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,920
were awful, things were sort of done to America or

612
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to Trump during that time. I did not think that

613
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was brilliant op.

614
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Speaker 1: He did a good You don't want to.

615
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Speaker 2: Be reminded of how great he what a great presidency

616
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,119
he had, that like hes people want to vote for him.

617
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Speaker 1: I don't think people blame I mean, obviously some partisans

618
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will blame Trump for COVID and blah blah blah, but

619
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I don't think most people do. So he actually this

620
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time and he hasn't done it. Often leaned into that

621
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,640
in a good way, talking about how the jobs they

622
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,920
had were bounced back jobs, and that we were on

623
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,400
this great trajectory until that pandemic came. So I actually, yeah,

624
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,359
I agree with you on that. I didn't think that

625
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was a terrible moment. Honestly, I didn't think I think

626
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,799
Trump lost. If I had to be a pundit and

627
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,200
just lay out how we're supposed to debate and all that.

628
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,000
But I don't think he was. I don't think she

629
00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:02,440
was great or he was especially terrible. I just don't.

630
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,720
This is how usually he is. I think people forget

631
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:08,239
that if you look at polling or pundits, like a lot,

632
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,480
He's lost a lot of debates and they haven't mattered,

633
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:13,920
or you know, supposedly and they haven't mattered really at all.

634
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,599
The Biden debate wasn't you know, he was debating someone

635
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:20,760
who was mentally incapacitated. It wasn't like, you know, that

636
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,400
was that. That's a very distinct debate where we learned

637
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,880
something about Biden because the press had been covered that

638
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,960
they've been covering up. But generally this is how he is,

639
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:31,719
and I don't. I just like I said, I think

640
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,239
it's baked in to their understanding of Donald Trump. I

641
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,440
don't think it changes anything. I mean, like you say,

642
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,360
they might be a small bump, but I don't think

643
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,199
it will matter much.

644
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Speaker 2: I want to finish reading this note from this reader,

645
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because I was screaming about it right before.

646
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Speaker 1: Please do, please do, Okay.

647
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Speaker 2: He says, I'm not a fan of Trump personally at all,

648
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,840
A vout a Johnson in sixteen Trump and twenty and

649
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,639
Maga makes me cuss like a sailor. But given the alternative,

650
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,199
he's the best chance to bring some much needed sanity

651
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,599
back to the economy, border security, and foreign policy. And

652
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:02,599
if elected, Elon is going to have to develop the

653
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:05,840
world's largest liposection device ever to suck the fat out

654
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,800
of the bloated horror of Babylon that is DC. So

655
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then he says, I look forward to your and Molly's

656
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,239
podcast later today. I'm truly grateful for you both your

657
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,599
opinions on all the things that matter on culture and

658
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:20,760
music to assure me that my own views, while completely

659
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,599
out of touch with the progressive leftists, are still shared

660
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:26,719
by at least a few decent, clear minded people like yourselves.

661
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,280
I think in many ways, David, you and I are

662
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,639
kindred spirits. I love love Molly, but you make me

663
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,280
scream yes, yes, yes more often. Signed fellow lover of freedom.

664
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And I'm not going to say what this person's name is,

665
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,880
but he was like raving and gushing about how awesome

666
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,880
you are. And he's a pastor of a Lutheran church,

667
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:52,199
a Missouri sent at Lutheran church this should be one

668
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:53,079
of my people.

669
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Speaker 1: Second, look at Lutherism for Lutheranism for me, I mean,

670
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you make listen. I think we can both.

671
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,559
Speaker 2: I got to her people. I just I was I

672
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was so hurt.

673
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Speaker 1: A lot of people yell yes, yes, yes when they

674
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,559
meet me. I think that we I have that kind

675
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:20,960
of effect on people. It's a gift. But I mean

676
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:23,960
it's nice. First of all, thank you. I you know,

677
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,039
it seems like a really it's really nice thing for

678
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:29,360
him to say. We get a lot of mail praising us,

679
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,679
and we appreciate it. I appreciate that as well. What

680
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,119
were you talking about? I'm all can concentrate after that

681
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:45,159
hearing that, So you're so I I'm so flattered.

682
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: Anyway, I don't know what to do about the debate situation.

683
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And it's not like I think Ari Fleischer had said

684
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prior to the debate, Kamala Harris had not answered a

685
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single tough question from any member of the media. After

686
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,480
the debate, she still has not answered a single question.

687
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So I think she knows she's behind, which explains why

688
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:14,199
she immediately called for another debate. And I think also

689
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she knows that if she doesn't do another debate or

690
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,800
doesn't agree to another debate, it'll make her look weak.

691
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And then they roll out the Taylor Swift thing. I

692
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,599
think they're trying to kind of like save some of

693
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:30,480
their problems. They really have an enthusiasm enthusiasm problem. And

694
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you know, she's like running five to seven points behind

695
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,880
where Hillary Clinton was running and Biden was running and

696
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,760
one of those people lost and the other one very

697
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,679
narrowly won. And so even like the New York Times

698
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:45,760
poll that came out on Sunday, I think it was

699
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,039
had Trump up one, That same poll in September twenty

700
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:55,880
twenty had Biden up eight. So some of these polls

701
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,920
are even worse for her than that five to seven

702
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,960
points that she's behind.

703
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Speaker 1: And especially when you look at the states she needs

704
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,159
to win or he needs to win, they're behind where

705
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,239
they were they you know they were for the other candidates.

706
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,199
I'd be I mean again, I'm not going to make predictions,

707
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,519
but I'd be pretty worried if I were her. So

708
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:18,079
it is interesting. And so she has nothing to lose

709
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,880
by doing more debates. Does Donald Trump have something to

710
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,360
lose by doing more debates?

711
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like the worst debate performance

712
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I ever saw from him was that first debate in

713
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,880
twenty twenty, the Chris Wallace debate, And you know, full disclosure,

714
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,559
everyone was bad on that. Biden was bad, Trump was bad,

715
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:41,239
Chris Wallace was abysmal. But that was a really bad

716
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,360
performance from him. He just came off belligerent and bad.

717
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:49,079
And yes he did have COVID, we later realized, but

718
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,559
that's doesn't matter. So he could be that level of

719
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,639
bad and it still not have that much of an

720
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:58,280
effect on the race. He definitely was much better than

721
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:06,079
that in this debate. He has this benefit of whatever

722
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:09,519
you think of him. His policies were very good for

723
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:11,480
the country and people know that, and so I think

724
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:17,800
that gives him a kind of confidence. And he also

725
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,599
seems to learn with doing, like the more you do something,

726
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,280
the better you get at it. We were just talking

727
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,480
about this before we were taping, and so if he

728
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:28,159
were to do another one, I think that would be

729
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,320
good for him. It would also be good for Kamala.

730
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:33,440
She will get much better. I mean, she's that was

731
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,400
her first presidential debate she'd ever done. It was his seventh.

732
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,519
You know, there's something you learn by just doing.

733
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,599
Speaker 1: She should not be underestimated. I mean, I think she's

734
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:45,159
a fraud. She speaks and platitudes. Most of what she

735
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,280
says was just vacuous, most of it gibberish. But she

736
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:55,280
presents esthetically and the way she speaks is strong. It's like,

737
00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:58,920
you know, she shouldn't be underestimated. I did want to

738
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,719
talk about a few more thing things on the debate

739
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,119
and then we can move on if we want. But

740
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:05,119
isn't it weird that CNN probably put on the best

741
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:08,039
presidential debate in like years. I think the last one

742
00:40:08,199 --> 00:40:12,519
was actually somewhat fair and a lot better than this

743
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,000
one with Biden, I mean, just question wise, I mean,

744
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,559
it seemed a lot better produced and etc.

745
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,679
Speaker 2: So I always think that you know you've done a

746
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:25,239
good job when people aren't talking about the questions you asked,

747
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,400
but the answers you elicited. And I think CNN gets

748
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,960
way too much credit because really the story of that

749
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,960
debate was just that Biden couldn't answer anything, Like anybody

750
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,480
could have asked any question and they would have been

751
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:41,639
unable to cover that up. But yeah, nobody really talked

752
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:47,159
about the questions because they were designed to educate, yeah,

753
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:52,400
more than attack these Again, this was shameful, and anyone

754
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,360
defending what ABC did should be shamed.

755
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: Well, the people who were defending them, Chris Hayes, etcetera,

756
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,039
saying they're doing a great job for Rube And these

757
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:04,559
are people who don't care about informing anyone. There they

758
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:09,280
the two. Yeah, the people who love this are you know,

759
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,800
you can tell that they did a terrible job, that

760
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,840
no one you know, that they were just hacks. And

761
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,000
I'm naive, I guess, because I'm constantly surprised by this

762
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:22,119
kind of thing when I shouldn't be. I'm like they,

763
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,639
I know, with all the with all the spotlight on them,

764
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:27,440
with all the with everyone saying they're going to be unfair,

765
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:31,280
with everyone saying they're in the you know, in Kamala's pocket,

766
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,840
they won't act that way. And they did more more

767
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,079
than I thought they would.

768
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: So I do want to say that. You know, you

769
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:40,800
take Chris Wallace, who was the moderator for that last debate,

770
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:42,840
for that first debate in twenty twenty, I mean, it

771
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,639
kind of destroyed his career. He's I don't even think

772
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:50,000
he's working anymore. He's widely understood to be kind of

773
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,480
not good at his job. So I do think there

774
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,760
can be effects for poor moderation, and certainly those people

775
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,239
will forever be understood it as North Korea style propagandists.

776
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,000
And I would just also like to say all these

777
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:12,559
boomer Republicans who crave media attention, they need to metaphorically

778
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:16,639
punch those people in the face, or worse, do more

779
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:23,320
metaphorically with any of those people. It is embarrassing how

780
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,679
little Republicans think of themselves and their voters that they

781
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,320
allow themselves to be treated this way. Have some bleeping

782
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:34,519
self respect, you losers, Like there's such losers it makes

783
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:36,280
you feel like a loser if you're in any way

784
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,159
associated with them. Nobody likes to be with losers, and

785
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:42,119
the Republican Party is just full of losers who think

786
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:45,159
I deserve poor treatment from the media. I don't know

787
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,360
what psychological childhood trauma they're dealing with to think they

788
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,400
deserve this, but it's embarrassing, it's unmanly, and they need

789
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:55,800
to stop. And I would also like to just praise

790
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,559
in that same moment Jadie Vance, Tom Cotton, Marco people

791
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:03,320
who actually do their work before they go on the

792
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,360
propaganda press and utterly shame and humiliate these people.

793
00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: I had a couple of more topics I forgot to mention.

794
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:15,840
I wanted to mention the Palestinian Israeli question than the

795
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,119
Ukrainian Russian question. And it made me laugh that they

796
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:25,400
kept pressing It's such an unfairly framed question. But they

797
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,239
kept pressing Donald Trump to say he wanted Ukraine to win. Now,

798
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,079
I want Ukraine to win, but that's the President kept

799
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,960
saying that he wanted peace, he wanted no more war,

800
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:37,559
and Kamala said there was un American of him to

801
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:40,880
say that, whereas five minutes earlier she had said that

802
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,880
Israel has to enter into a ceasefire agreement with hamas

803
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,239
a terrorist organization, and not one of the moderators like, well,

804
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,519
isn't that an American? You know? I mean, it's just

805
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:59,960
mind boggling to me that they can't see how ridiculous

806
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:01,800
those two things are. You want Ukraine to win, you

807
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,920
don't want Israel to win. She kept saying, Israel can

808
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,159
defend itself, but yet it has to enter into ceasefire.

809
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:08,400
How do you defend yourself when you're a ceasefire? Does

810
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,239
she know that on October seventh there was a ceasefire

811
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,159
in place when Hal Musk came in and sexually tortured

812
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:18,039
and murdered and kidnapped people, including children. That's the first one.

813
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:21,000
I just wanted to get that off my chest. Second

814
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,760
one is the pets eating pets thing.

815
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:26,079
Speaker 2: Now give me just real quick again. On the David

816
00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:32,039
Wair thing, He's like, Donald Trump, you love Vladimir Putin.

817
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,960
Vladimir Putin just endorsed Kamala Harris last week, not mentioned

818
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,360
by David Wair. Do you even want do you even

819
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,960
agree with all of the experts that it's in the

820
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,360
American's interest for Ukraine to win? Here would be a

821
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,639
good question, Hey, people, what's your strategy for winning against

822
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:52,480
a nuclear superpower? Like, how is this going to play out?

823
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:54,760
How many years will this take? How much money will

824
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,920
this take? How many people have to die? That would

825
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,599
be like an interesting question. But do you agree with

826
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,039
the interagency consensus that the latest forever war is in

827
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:08,800
America's interest? And then they were like, Kamala, do you

828
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,840
care about American flags and apple pie and how the

829
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,679
Ukraine war is the only means to achieve happiness in America?

830
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,159
Like ridiculous questions.

831
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were the framing of No. I agree, it

832
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,599
was ridiculous. I want Ukraine to win, but what does

833
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:29,119
that look like and how many years will it go on?

834
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,079
And how involved will we be? I mean, it's a

835
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,559
complicated a question, but for them it's just grandstanding about

836
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:40,960
how bad Poutin is. Then the other question, and I

837
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,239
didn't think Trump did very well on this, was the

838
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,079
eating of the pets thing. I mean, instead of getting

839
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:48,760
bogged down into what the city manager says, which again

840
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,559
is a ridiculous factor. We called the city manager. He

841
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:54,360
says that no one's eating pets are fine, it's to

842
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,559
say that town has Okay, we'll talk about the pets,

843
00:45:57,559 --> 00:45:59,800
but let's talk about how that town has been devastated

844
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,920
by where Kamala dropped twenty thousand people from Haiti and

845
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,840
wherever into a town and destroyed their medical system. This

846
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,199
I saw JD. Vance in the spin room doing an

847
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,320
excellent job actually on that question. So that's what I'm

848
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,360
talking about, with focus, like not getting down in their

849
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,639
traps and then just making a bigger, broader argument about

850
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,400
what you're saying.

851
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,679
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, no, I agree with you on that. I

852
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,880
do want to brag on Tristan Justice at the Federalist

853
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:39,920
who obtained audio and police reports from like a non

854
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,079
emergency nine one one call of someone talking about Haitians

855
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:45,000
who he knew were Haitian because he heard them speaking

856
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:51,800
Haitian creole for Haitian men each carrying a goose on

857
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,039
a trail while he was on his way to work.

858
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:57,079
He saw this. And hours before this, everyone had said

859
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:01,360
it is a complete lie that there that these immigrants

860
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,760
who have been brought to overwhelm this town of Springfield, Ohio,

861
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,719
which is a town of I think sixty thousand people,

862
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,400
and they've brought in twenty thousand Haitian immigrants and it's

863
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:16,079
causing all sorts of chaos in hospitals, schools, policing, et cetera.

864
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:18,920
And some of the people in the town had gone

865
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,320
to town meetings and claimed on the record, you know,

866
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:29,239
like on videotape that there was this seizing of animals,

867
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,760
and they were told by the quote unquote fact checkers

868
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,400
of American propaganda media that they were lying and that

869
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,480
there was no evidence for this. Further, they then, yeah,

870
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:41,760
David Moore is like, well, I called someone who's got

871
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,559
a vested interest in downplaying the problem, and he said

872
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:48,719
there was no problem. I loved that Donald Trump pointed

873
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,519
out that a city manager making a claim does not

874
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:54,920
make it true, like so often with fact checks, Like

875
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:00,119
you might remember the issues in Atlanta in twenty twenty

876
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,559
to fact checked a video that was like everyone could

877
00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:07,360
watch with their own eyes. They called people who would

878
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,039
be in a lot of trouble for what they allowed

879
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:13,119
to happen in a vote tabulation center. And the people

880
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:14,480
who would be in a lot of trouble for what

881
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:18,039
they allowed to happen basically unsupervised tabulation, were like, there's

882
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:20,360
nothing wrong here. And then they fact checked everybody and

883
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,519
they said the person who's actually most in error says

884
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:27,039
there was nothing wrong here. That is not a fact check.

885
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:32,079
That's a like government propaganda being filtered through the censorship

886
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:33,079
industrial complex.

887
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: All right, Molly, culture time, did you watch anything, see

888
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,480
anything here or anything do anything?

889
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,119
Speaker 2: Okay? So I had to go up to New York

890
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,840
or Fox stuff. And on my way up to New

891
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:54,559
York on at the Union Station train station, there was

892
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:57,480
this guy selling records there. He sells records there every

893
00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:00,280
Saturday morning or during the day. I had no idea,

894
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,920
and he had a great selection. We'll spend ye, but

895
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,920
a great selection, and I got the B fifty two's

896
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,880
Bouncing Off the Satellites.

897
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: Album for Early one.

898
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I liked it. Also, interestingly enough, my husband

899
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,800
went goose hunting, for which he was permitted and had

900
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,480
to give like one hundred and fifty dollars to the

901
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,239
government to allow himself to do that, and also did

902
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,559
not like drag the geese back into our house through

903
00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:27,199
our neighborhood.

904
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,039
Speaker 1: But I hate those geese anyway, by the way, and

905
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:31,320
also cats deserve what they have coming to them as well,

906
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,679
but I didn't want to get into that too much.

907
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: Sorry, go on, It's not okay for certain people to

908
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,840
be jailed for possessing a goose and other people to

909
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,800
be like, oh, we don't like geese anyway. You know,

910
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,400
you have to have consistent laws. Rule of law is

911
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,760
important in this country. So he also got a B

912
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,119
fifty twos album somewhere wherever he was.

913
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: He really without it.

914
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,199
Speaker 2: We run the same wavelength or whatever.

915
00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:59,079
Speaker 1: Just coincidentally, you both got B fifty two albums on

916
00:49:59,119 --> 00:49:59,840
the same day.

917
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think his was that it's a reissue of

918
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:10,400
the B fifty twos. Okay, I watched a movie with

919
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,960
my kids. I would not highly recommend it. It was

920
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:19,519
called The Union with halle Berry Mark Wahlberg you did.

921
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,039
What'd you think of it?

922
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was complete garbage, Like there was no

923
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:28,440
story whatsoever. Now this is a big movie for Netflix.

924
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,079
I think it's been number one in for their movies

925
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:33,760
a while. Listen, both of those people are charming and

926
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,719
attractive and all of that, but the movie itself, the story,

927
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:41,639
there's no story. It's just completely non existent. Why what'd

928
00:50:41,639 --> 00:50:42,480
you think of that movie?

929
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 2: Well? I like calle Berry, and I like Mark Wahlberg,

930
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,320
and I liked some of the other actors in it.

931
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,800
It just seemed like it lacked a feeling like chemistry.

932
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,199
I also liked the idea that there's a international spy

933
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,360
ring where instead of going to the Georgetown Foreign Service School,

934
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,840
you're a bunch of like pipefitters who know how to

935
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:05,480
get stuff done.

936
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:08,039
Speaker 1: I did like that aspect of it, but it doesn't

937
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:10,960
really play that big a part. It should have been

938
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,679
a bigger part in the movie. We can do these

939
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:15,480
things because we're from the street, or you know, we're

940
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:18,480
carpenters or whatever. But I'll tell you what happened with

941
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,360
that movie. I was about forty minutes in and I'm like,

942
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,280
why did they make this movie? Why was this movie made?

943
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,039
There's no I felt no reason for it to exist,

944
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,199
but apparently that's what people like.

945
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: Okay. I also watched another one and I don't know why.

946
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,719
Oh sorry, I watched two other movies.

947
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,199
Speaker 1: Sorry, you don't have to be sorry. This is why

948
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:37,679
we're here.

949
00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:40,159
Speaker 2: First, what it's called Still Breathing.

950
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: Have you seen this Still Breathing now?

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Speaker 2: From nineteen ninety seven, and it's Brendan Fraser and Joanna

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going No. And Brendan Fraser is an artist. It's a

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really weird movie. It's like more vibes than plot line,

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but it's got enough of a plot line. And he's

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this artist in Texas. He has a gift from the

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men and his family they see the woman who's the

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love of their life and then they have to go

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find her. And so he sees a woman and then

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manages to find her in Los Angeles and she's basically

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a high end call girl. Well that's played in such

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a discreet fashion and what that means and I don't know.

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It was good. I liked it actually. And then I

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watched hill Billy Elegy one night after work, and I

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had read that book in when it came out in

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twenty sixteen, and I really liked the story. I didn't

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love the heritage policy proposal aspect of it, but I

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loved the story itself. And I had never seen it,

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even though my childhood friend Amy Adams is in it.

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She's great. Glenn Close is amazing as Jadie Vance's grandmother.

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And it also made me want to punch anyone who

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makes fun of Jade Vance for going to Yale Law

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School after being in the Marines and going to Ohio State,

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like to really see some of the trauma that he experienced.

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I don't know. It just it was really well done.

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If you haven't seen it, I would highly recommend it,

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like it was so much better than I thought it

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would be.

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Speaker 1: Tim Wallas is always kind of mocking him for that.

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It just makes no sense to me. Now. I get

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that there's this movement to appeal to working class people,

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but our working class people really averse to someone succeeding

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and getting out of that class and lifting themselves up.

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I just I don't think any normal American would be

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And this is the class warfare I just hate and

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I don't really understand it. I've never seen that movie.

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I enjoyed the book, but it was well done. Did

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you see Ron Howard came out and said, you know

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how surprised he was that Jad Vans had taken these

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crazy political positions.

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Speaker 2: And I don't care what Ron Howard or Glenn Close

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or Amy Adams say about politics. I don't not that

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Amy has said anything.

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Speaker 1: But Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: It's free country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, you said too. Did you mention all the movie? Oh? Yeah,

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to the I I watched Fall Guy, the extended version

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on Peacock. You love this movie. This is one I

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just don't get why you love. To me, this is

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like The Union. I did not. First of all, I

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wondered if the extra twenty minutes that I saw just

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made it worse because it seems so aimless. I thought,

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here's what I think. I think all the people in

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it are are excellent. Ryan Gosling is is really fun

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to watch. Emily len is fine. The guy who played

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the actor played the bad guy, the actor you know,

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is great. So all of that was fine. But again

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I'm just like, what is this, What's the point of this?

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There's no the story seems so aimless, and there were

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there's so many like useless, conversations that aren't weren't very funny.

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So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It was a great movie. I didn't see the extended

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cut it. If you like action films and my kids

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love action films, it was really fun to see in

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a theater. I loved the fall Guy like TV show.

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I like the idea behind it. I like, you know,

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movies about the making of movies that this seemed to

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me to have more too. It was not trying to

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be anything intellectual. It was trying to be a you know,

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shoot them up, fun action flick, and it achieved that.

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And then also Ryan Ryan Gosling is very funny. I

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liked him in that role. I liked I mean that

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the casting was great.

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Speaker 1: I try to judge. I don't want some I didn't

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I don't want some Jim Jarmosh movie or something here.

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I am trying to I judge movies by what they are.

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You know, this was supposed to be an action movie,

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and I just don't think it had a ton of

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action in it. There were a few interesting scenes that

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they pulled off. Anyway, I don't know. Maybe I'll rewatch it,

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and maybe I need to watch the normal cut. I

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like the show too. I enjoy it. So it was that.

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So what else? I also watched the show which I

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will not watch any more, episodes of called Shrinking with

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Harrison Ford and I forgot the guy's name. I think

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it's Seagull or something. He's you know, he's kind of

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a comedic actor on Uh, it's on Fox. It's on

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the Apple. Sorry, it's about you know, it's kind of

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a bittersweet show. It's kind of a it was a downer.

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So I'm not going to watch it anymore. But people

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might enjoy it Jason Siegel. I guess, yeah, I didn't

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love it. Then I watched two documentaries of bands that

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are on the pole, maybe the most polar opposite bands

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that exist on Earth. I watched Mutiny in Heaven, which

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was a documentary about the birthday party Nick Caves first,

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or you know Nick Cave's early band, which I loved.

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And then I watched the Beach Boys documentary on Apple.

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I think it was or Max, which was excellent. I thought,

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I don't know if you're a Beach Boys fan, but

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I am.

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Speaker 2: I am a Beach Boys obsessive.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry it's on Disney. It was on Disney Disney. No, no,

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it is. It's fine.

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Speaker 2: I am and I need like longer form documentaries to

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watch because of my particular rowing regimen. But I don't

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know how to work our TV, and my husband gets

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very angry with me when I ask for help. He

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thinks that at my age and level of intelligence, I

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should be able to handle this myself. But the only

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thing I know how to do is operate. Like I

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can turn on the TV and get it to Netflix,

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but I can't get it to anything else. So I'm

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very limited in what I can watch.

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Speaker 1: My wife will push a button here to put the

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TV on, and the TV but we'll go on upstairs somehow.

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It's so confused. She makes it very difficult. But yeah,

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So I don't know if you're a Nick Kaithan. He

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has a new album out as well.

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Speaker 2: Also just got He said, what was the album before

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Pink Moon? I don't know, Okay, sorry, Mark.

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Speaker 1: Just got Yeah So he has a new album out.

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I'm a fan of Nick Cave as a person. I'm

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not a huge fan of his new music, but I

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was a Birthday Party fan. It's an excellent movie. I

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watched it. I think called two B which is like

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free movies. They actually have a ton of great music documentaries,

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if that's what you're interested in. Yeah, So that app

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the Beach Boys one. I learned a lot about them. Again,

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I'm not a huge fan of their music, but I

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was just.

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Speaker 2: The best band that ever lived.

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Speaker 1: So I did you know there were brothers and three

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brothers cousin. I did not know how abusive the father

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was and how he kind of ruined it. And that's

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so that whole story is very interesting. I'm really you know,

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I just like learning about this. I don't know why

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learning about this stuff. But they did cut it off

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at a point where we didn't get to learn more

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about the eighties and Kokomo and all that. So if

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you're interested in that, maybe there'll be a sequel. But

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so I believe that's all I watch. But now we'll

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have music to put it end. The birthday party or

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the Beach Boys is the question.

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Speaker 2: I will just also mention that Mark and I are

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going to go see PJ. Harvey tonight.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Do you like her? Yeah? Well, Rid of Me

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I think is just mind blowing album. I love it

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and she's interesting. I didn't realize she was touring. That's great. Yeah, Yeah,

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all right, maybe I'll put a PJ. Harvey song at

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the end. It's gonna be a lot of choices this week.

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Last week I didn't know what to do and I

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put Russia's free Will for no reason, and someone called

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me out on Twitter. They're like, how does this connect anything?

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Speaker 2: Nicely done?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, So I have to get back on track.

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Speaker 2: All right. One should send their love notes to David

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Harsoni at radio at the Federalist dot com.

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Speaker 1: I love I love to read them, we love to

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read them on air. And until then, he loves the

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freedom and anxious for the frame of the block. There's

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a place called cocam. That's where you wanna go pick

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you know from now