Speaker 1: All right, twelve oh eight, and welcome in. It's the
Speaker 1: average American in to the great American.
Speaker 2: Here. I'm this Thursday. Glad you are with us?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, we are plowing ahead into another weekend,
Speaker 1: another day closer to Christmas, another day hopefully of getting
Speaker 1: this country back on the right track. It's amazing how
Speaker 1: things are all interweaved, isn't it anymore? It's amazing how
Speaker 1: when one thing happens, it leads back to another. And
Speaker 1: some would say, well, wait a minute, what are we
Speaker 1: talking about conspiracy theories? Well, no, but we're talking about
Speaker 1: theories that have most of us wondering what the hell's
Speaker 1: going on? And it's been that way largely for the
Speaker 1: last four years. Just see what Look what has happened
Speaker 1: here in the last couple of weeks. First of all,
Speaker 1: you've got Christopher Ray residing as the FBI director. Yesterday
Speaker 1: he was going to be out one way or the other.
Speaker 1: So he leaves with a shred of day dignity, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that he was part of the weaponization unlike
Speaker 1: any I've ever seen maybe you've ever seen.
Speaker 2: And I can go back really to following this.
Speaker 1: Stuff to the days of the Nixon administration part of
Speaker 1: the weaponization of justice in America, so he quits. Last February,
Speaker 1: we had a spy balloon flying over the United States
Speaker 1: taking pictures of god knows what and sending it back
Speaker 1: to China. We had drones flying over the state of
Speaker 1: New Jersey in parts of New York City. The FBI
Speaker 1: said yesterday it has absolutely no explanation. All they wanted
Speaker 1: to do, all the State Department wanted to do was
Speaker 1: laugh at that congressman from New Jersey who said there
Speaker 1: was some sort of mothership parked off the coast of
Speaker 1: New York and New Jersey, probably from Iran, that were
Speaker 1: launching these drones that are flying dangerously over military installations
Speaker 1: and infrastructure like water systems and electrical grids. But they
Speaker 1: have no other explanation, which is frightening. Either they don't
Speaker 1: know on one level and they're not telling us, or
Speaker 1: they do know and they're refusing to tell us.
Speaker 2: And now there.
Speaker 1: Is this information that has come down on the last
Speaker 1: week that only thirty seven percent of us have been
Speaker 1: vaccinated against the flu this year, thirty seven percent. We
Speaker 1: are right in the middle, right in the teeth of
Speaker 1: the flu season. Nineteen percent of US have taken the
Speaker 1: COVID booster shot. Now, dial back in time, dial back
Speaker 1: just to twenty twenty one, a scant three years ago
Speaker 1: when if you didn't do either one of those things,
Speaker 1: you were thinking that you were playing jeopardy with.
Speaker 2: Your life or the lives of others.
Speaker 1: But it all weaves its way forward into where we
Speaker 1: are right now, because quite frankly, nobody trusts the government.
Speaker 1: We just don't what government agency would you trust right now?
Speaker 2: The CDC, the.
Speaker 1: NIH, the FBI, the DOJ, pick any one of those
Speaker 1: three initial governments that reside inside the Beltway of Washington,
Speaker 1: DC and ten tew me which one you really trust?
Speaker 1: The Department of Homeland Security DHS. Oh yeah, the one
Speaker 1: that allowed the invasion of what at least eleven million
Speaker 1: people that we know about, and god knows how many
Speaker 1: that have been got that are called gotaways from the
Speaker 1: southern border. Who do you trust? Because invariably the truth
Speaker 1: will come out. The truth has come out about the
Speaker 1: COVID origins. And while we were told back in twenty
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty one that somebody ate a bat or
Speaker 1: a pangolin or some sort of animal over in China,
Speaker 1: and then sneezed on a couple of other people in China,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it released a worldwide epidemic
Speaker 1: that killed millions of people and also killed millions of
Speaker 1: people inside this country, infected many more people than That
Speaker 1: changed our lifestyle completely. Where we could go, where we
Speaker 1: could go to places with who would be able to
Speaker 1: teach our children the way they needed to be taught,
Speaker 1: All kinds of things like that, the inability to go
Speaker 1: to church, the inability to commune with any other people
Speaker 1: that we are destined as humans to do if we
Speaker 1: want to survive. We are social beings. We were lied to.
Speaker 1: We now know after this Subcommittee on the Coronavirus. The
Speaker 1: report coming out last week, five hundred and twenty page
Speaker 1: report rather exhaustive. It stated that quote COVID nineteen most
Speaker 1: likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. End quote well,
Speaker 1: slap me upside the head with a skillet. Didn't see
Speaker 1: that one coming. It also found that social distancing was
Speaker 1: quote unquote not based on science, and further went on
Speaker 1: to say, quote unquote, there was no conclusive evidence that
Speaker 1: wearing masks protected Americans from COVID nineteen. Yet we were told,
Speaker 1: wear a mask, stay six feet away, get the shot,
Speaker 1: because it'll keep you from getting COVID. No, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: it won't do that. It'll keep you from giving COVID
Speaker 1: to everyone else. No, no, no, wait a minute, it will,
Speaker 1: it will. And it went on and on, the flip flops,
Speaker 1: the lies, all because we they the three initial agencies
Speaker 1: inside the Beltway at Washington, DC, could not tell the truth.
Speaker 1: Standing by somebody to weigh in on all of this,
Speaker 1: because there are several implications over and above what has transpired,
Speaker 1: as you well know, inside the medical community in just
Speaker 1: the last week, the assassination of the CEO of United
Speaker 1: Healthcare and the arrest of the suspect that the media
Speaker 1: seems ready to convict.
Speaker 2: Will wait on that.
Speaker 1: You really have to be careful with Burbiage when you
Speaker 1: have pending litigation, particularly when it involves someone who is
Speaker 1: accused of murder. Regardless of what the overwhelming evidence is
Speaker 1: and regardless of what authorities, detectives and what not say,
Speaker 1: you have to be careful. It would seem like that
Speaker 1: this is a case that is not going to go
Speaker 1: well for Luigi.
Speaker 2: Whomever.
Speaker 1: But we do know that trust in any level right
Speaker 1: now is shaky at best. I want to bring on
Speaker 1: somebody I have on the show a lot. I have
Speaker 1: Todd Furnas on the show because he understands, particularly when
Speaker 1: it comes to the medical community, exactly what's true, what's
Speaker 1: not true, what's wrong with healthcare in this country, and
Speaker 1: how you can solve it.
Speaker 2: It's not a difficult thing. He wrote a book about it.
Speaker 1: It's an easy, quick read that makes logical and sensible conclusions.
Speaker 1: It's called Rethinking America's Healthcare, The sixty Percent Solution. Let
Speaker 1: me bring the author on to talk about this and more.
Speaker 1: The aforementioned Todd Furnas. How are you on this glorious day?
Speaker 3: I am sure, vic Ken, thank you so much for
Speaker 3: having me today.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're here. All right.
Speaker 1: Look, you and I have been talking about COVID, its origins,
Speaker 1: what it did to the American public, to the world
Speaker 1: for that matter. We've been talking about that for over
Speaker 1: five years. And now, finally, as most things do in government, finally,
Speaker 1: after a laborious road that was taken, this Congressional sub
Speaker 1: committee concluded that it likely originated in a lab in Wuhan, China.
Speaker 1: Well imagine that. Who didn't see that one coming right, shocking.
Speaker 4: But true, and if anything, this is the report is
Speaker 4: kind of affirming a lot of the stuff that you
Speaker 4: and I have been talking about for a long time, which,
Speaker 4: by the way, I might started off when I was
Speaker 4: still young and impetuous in many damp but the House
Speaker 4: Community for Somebody report was very, very critical and very
Speaker 4: damning for not only a lot of the institutions in
Speaker 4: the United States and outside of the United States, but
Speaker 4: very specifically around around individuals who were called out specifically
Speaker 4: in the report.
Speaker 1: Fauci, it looks like and together with de Berks and
Speaker 1: the CDC, they just made up a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 1: First of all, he flip flopped on everything, so you know,
Speaker 1: you couldn't really never tell what he was telling the truth.
Speaker 2: But I mean, he just said The.
Speaker 1: Closed door testimony had Fauci testifying that social distancing was
Speaker 1: not based on science, that face coverings, that face they
Speaker 1: knew face coverings weren't going to work. They were fifteen
Speaker 1: days to slow the growth. It was all made up.
Speaker 1: It was just stuff they came up with who knows
Speaker 1: in what state of mind, and we all kind of
Speaker 1: figured there was something nefarious going on, but we were
Speaker 1: scared to death of COVID. And it turns out the
Speaker 1: people we were trusting to come up with answers they
Speaker 1: it might as well have been just an academia exercise
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 3: Well, and I think you're spot on there.
Speaker 4: Dever, Burks admitted in an interview I watched on television
Speaker 4: some time ago where she said, yeah, this was completely fabricated.
Speaker 4: There was no basis whatsoever in science now at all
Speaker 4: that a six front a six foot distance between you
Speaker 4: and the next person is going to have any impact
Speaker 4: whatsoever on giving or getting COVID.
Speaker 3: But having said that, you know, I think what they
Speaker 3: are trying to.
Speaker 4: Do, in fairness is employ some sense, some semblance of
Speaker 4: common sense. I mean, if you have a covering over
Speaker 4: your mouth, one would think they would it would prevent
Speaker 4: prevent things from moving back and forth.
Speaker 3: The problem with is and I like this analogy.
Speaker 4: It said, it's kind of like trying to catch mosquitoes
Speaker 4: or some mosquitos from going from your yard to the
Speaker 4: next door neighbor's yard using a.
Speaker 3: Chain link sense.
Speaker 4: The particles for the virus are so small and so
Speaker 4: transmittable that they can permeate that membrane called the face mask.
Speaker 4: So that's why the specific types of masks were then
Speaker 4: later advocated. But the fact that they were mandating these
Speaker 4: things is where you know, civil liberties get called into play.
Speaker 4: Business were shut down, and all sorts of other really
Speaker 4: really bad things that were employed and implement. But it
Speaker 4: goes further now where courts have now said that those
Speaker 4: companies and those federal and state organizations determinate the people
Speaker 4: because they wouldn't get vaccinated, they wouldn't wear masks, even
Speaker 4: if they had religious or medical exemptions. Have to reinstate
Speaker 4: those people and reimburse them and give them back.
Speaker 3: Pay and uls three of other things. But the problems
Speaker 3: get worse and worse the more you read this reform.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this report also says that its origin was
Speaker 1: in this lab in Wuhan, and this is the quote
Speaker 1: which has a history of conducting gain of function research
Speaker 1: at inadequate biosafety levels end quote. And then it goes
Speaker 1: on to say that researchers in that lab were sick
Speaker 1: with COVID like viruses as far back as the fall
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen. We know that the United States has
Speaker 1: sent money over to that lab for studying gain and
Speaker 1: function research. Should we have any doubt at this point
Speaker 1: that COVID nineteen there were American dollars all over that.
Speaker 4: Well, there's certainly an obvious need to confirm what appears
Speaker 4: to be clear, and so you never want to be.
Speaker 3: Overseealousness.
Speaker 4: But this needs to be fully developed and fully understood.
Speaker 3: But it certainly looks bad for the home team, let's
Speaker 3: put it that way.
Speaker 1: And all of this has a cascading effect. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at a story in the Washington Post here a couple
Speaker 1: of days ago, thirty seven percent have received a seasonal
Speaker 1: flu shot. Nineteen percent have gotten the updated COVID vaccine.
Speaker 1: The residual effect is, we don't trust these people. We
Speaker 1: don't trust what they say anymore. We don't trust the CDC,
Speaker 1: we don't trust the NAH. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: government agencies we don't trust anymore. The things that we
Speaker 1: have just taken for granted that we should do now
Speaker 1: we're questioning and probably putting our own health at risk
Speaker 1: because of the way these people handled COVID. And I
Speaker 1: think that's one of the biggest tragedies of all of this,
Speaker 1: mixed in with deaths and what it did to people
Speaker 1: that might have had some mental instability before they had
Speaker 1: a social distance. I mean, this thing is going to
Speaker 1: have a cascading effect for decades.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: The erosion of the public trust is a terrible thing
Speaker 4: that is a consequence of the way that this is.
Speaker 4: Hammon completely agree with you having said that, the other
Speaker 4: side of the coin is.
Speaker 3: It increases the personal responsibility.
Speaker 4: We all have to take to be inquisitive and to
Speaker 4: go do our own homework. I think the other side
Speaker 4: of the coin is that we've perhaps relied too much
Speaker 4: on this dogma.
Speaker 3: That's been coming out, and what it reminds.
Speaker 4: Us of President jaring fashion is that we need to
Speaker 4: do our own homework and be thoughtful and intentional about
Speaker 4: how we take our healthcare and.
Speaker 3: Our nutrition seriously.
Speaker 4: And I think you know, if you know, I'm not
Speaker 4: promoting or or arguing against by me is the nomination
Speaker 4: of mister Kennedy. But what he has come out and
Speaker 4: said is I just want people to be informed. I
Speaker 4: don't want to take anybody's vaccinations away. I just want
Speaker 4: to make sure that they're informed as fully as is
Speaker 4: possible given the library of research it's available on these topics.
Speaker 4: And what he's really saying is, hey, a lot of
Speaker 4: stuff is not. The province of the federal government is
Speaker 4: really the province of the stake of it. But ultimately
Speaker 4: it's always the province of the individual to know what's
Speaker 4: best for themselves.
Speaker 1: Todd Furnish our guest. He's the author of the sixty
Speaker 1: percent solution rethinking America's healthcare system. You know, you and
Speaker 1: I talked off the air of five years ago when
Speaker 1: my dad was still alive. He was in the hospital
Speaker 1: for a completely different reason other than COVID, but he
Speaker 1: was tested virtually every day, largely because these hospitals benefited
Speaker 1: from having patients that not only were there for some
Speaker 1: other malady, but if they contracted COVID, there was a
Speaker 1: financial incentive for those hospitals. Then and suddenly we started
Speaker 1: seeing on death certificates COVID along with the real reason
Speaker 1: why people died. And now we see a study that
Speaker 1: just came to light that hospital building practices are creating
Speaker 1: billions and billions of added revenue for hospitals simply because
Speaker 1: of upcoding, in other words, taking one particular ailment and
Speaker 1: then finding various avenues that lead to something else that
Speaker 1: patients can be treated for. It it's a scam it's between
Speaker 1: you know, it's between insurance companies, and it's between hospitals.
Speaker 1: And at the end of it, the person that pays
Speaker 1: the most, that can least afford it is the patient
Speaker 1: that's in there just trying to get better. Maybe more
Speaker 1: and more light shed upon that may make more and
Speaker 1: more people understand just what a labyrinth it is when
Speaker 1: you get sick and have to go to the hospital.
Speaker 4: Right well, with the hope that you'll invite me back
Speaker 4: for a really more in depth com She's from this
Speaker 4: very topic at this point in a few things. There
Speaker 4: are three types of codes involved in every building system.
Speaker 4: One is called as from ICD, which is the International
Speaker 4: Classification of Diseases. It's developed by the World Health Organization,
Speaker 4: and already you should be nervous that was developed to
Speaker 4: attract diseases globally, not to be a part of a
Speaker 4: building system.
Speaker 3: And what they're doing is they're saying, hey.
Speaker 4: We can with just a slight of a pen, we
Speaker 4: can change you from one RG to another.
Speaker 3: And that has huge billing implications.
Speaker 4: But to give you an idea of the magnitude, ICD
Speaker 4: nine had sixteen thousand codes, ICD ten one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty five thousand codes.
Speaker 3: Wow, so it's just it's a niche opportunity for fraud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, apparently there's a lot of that going on.
Speaker 1: Tell yeah, Todd, it's great catching up with you and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I every time I call you say yes,
Speaker 1: so you know I'm going to be calling here pretty soon.
Speaker 1: We'll get more into that, and I'm sure there'll be
Speaker 1: something else that pops up each now and then as well.
Speaker 1: Stay well and we'll visit down the road. Thanks, hey, sons,
Speaker 1: enjoy Thanks again, you bet. I mean, it's just, you know,
Speaker 1: the more you don't tell the truth, the less somebody
Speaker 1: will believe what you say. That is a basic precept
Speaker 1: of life and whether they think we couldn't handle it
Speaker 1: or what. You don't need that from your government. We
Speaker 1: don't need big Brother. We need people that tell us
Speaker 1: the truth and let us, as rational thinking human beings,
Speaker 1: figure it out on our own. We'll see if that
Speaker 1: changes come January twentieth. It is twelve twenty five. It's
Speaker 1: the average American in for the Great American. Glad you
Speaker 1: are with us today as always on seven hundred WLW
Speaker 1: twelve thirty eight News Radio seven hundred WLW the average
Speaker 1: American in for the Great American. A reminder, all the
Speaker 1: people that work in Washington, DC. Guess who pays for them?
Speaker 1: Who pays their salary? You got it?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 1: Me and everyone else? It pays taxes. Let not that
Speaker 1: be lost in the conversation on the show today, We're
Speaker 1: going to get into why everybody is so unhappy at
Speaker 1: their job because I'm looking at a survey by Gallup
Speaker 1: and actually some testimonial on this from other people that
Speaker 1: are in the job market business, and everybody is it
Speaker 1: seems like everybody an overwhelming number.
Speaker 2: Everybody's a big word.
Speaker 1: An overwhelming number of people are not only unhappy, they
Speaker 1: have dedicated themselves in twenty twenty five to finding a
Speaker 1: new job. Why is no one happy with where they
Speaker 1: work anymore?
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 1: It's because they have to be there? Is that part
Speaker 1: of the deal, Like you gotta go into the office now.
Speaker 1: After we had recess for about six to nine months
Speaker 1: during COVID, maybe longer than that.
Speaker 2: And also.
Speaker 1: The guy that shot the United United Healthcare CEO Luigi
Speaker 1: allegedly shot the United Healthcare CEO Luigi Mangone. Why now
Speaker 1: are there people like glorifying this guy. Why are people
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, he's sexy or I'd like to
Speaker 1: date him, or you know, people are actually buying ornaments
Speaker 1: and Luigi Mangione paraphernalia. What makes this society like ours
Speaker 1: gravitate to the quote unquote bad boys. We'll get into
Speaker 1: that as well here before we're done at two thirty.
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, the nonsense just keeps coming.
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren, who is maybe one of the biggest nitwits
Speaker 1: that works inside.
Speaker 2: Of the Beltway.
Speaker 1: Actually the bigger netwits are the people in Massachusetts that
Speaker 1: keep voting to sender back to Washington, DC. So here
Speaker 1: was Elizabeth Warren on MSNBC talking about out this whole
Speaker 1: case of the guy who allegedly shot the United CEO
Speaker 1: healthcare officer and shot him to death. Here's Elizabeth Warren
Speaker 1: on MSNBC.
Speaker 5: And what happens when you turn this into the billionaires
Speaker 5: run at all is they get the opportunity to squeeze
Speaker 5: every last penny. Yeah, and look, we'll say it over
Speaker 5: and over. Violence is never the answer that this guy
Speaker 5: gets a trial who's allegedly killed the CEO of United Health.
Speaker 5: But you can only push people so far and then
Speaker 5: they start to take matters in their own hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, does that sound like a call to action? As
Speaker 1: Sicco's out there like we should expect it a breaking news, Liz.
Speaker 1: You guys, you guys, you got it. You got Obamacare pass.
Speaker 1: Remember remember there, you remember Obamacare. You know what Obama
Speaker 1: is all the things that was supposed to solve with
Speaker 1: our healthcare problems here in the United States.
Speaker 2: You can keep your plan.
Speaker 1: Almost ten million people lost coverage during the first enrollment period.
Speaker 1: Or you can keep your doctor, except that over two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand doctors opted.
Speaker 2: Out of Obamacare.
Speaker 1: Well, your premiums are going to go down by twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars. In the first four years of Obamacare,
Speaker 1: they went up sixty percent. You'll have more access to care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: except those doctors that opted out of Obamacare. I had
Speaker 1: one of those. Didn't want to put up with a
Speaker 1: nonsense quit retired. Pre existing conditions will be protected. Oh no,
Speaker 1: they didn't, No, they weren't. Didn't prevent anybody from going
Speaker 1: bankrupt or from dying. The fact there was a survey
Speaker 1: done in twenty nineteen. It was a study and you
Speaker 1: know it found it found there was no reduction in
Speaker 1: mortality for those that participated in Obamacare, which in actuality
Speaker 1: meant enrollment in Obamacare had the same impact as every
Speaker 1: other form of insurance, and it had the same impact
Speaker 1: of those who decided not.
Speaker 2: To have any kind of insurance.
Speaker 1: Honestly, sometimes I think people just want to point fingers
Speaker 1: and yell. Then, of course we have the flying drones
Speaker 1: over New Jersey and New York. Maybe people out in
Speaker 1: this area of the country aren't concerned. What would you
Speaker 1: do if you had flying drones flying over Dell High
Speaker 1: or you know, Norwood, like every night for the last month.
Speaker 1: What do you think the reaction would be. And the
Speaker 1: government won't tell us what's going on, or they know
Speaker 1: what's going on and they won't tell us, or they
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. I mean, you pick which
Speaker 1: one you think is a better deal. So this Congressman
Speaker 1: in New Jersey, Jeff Van Drew, his district is one
Speaker 1: of the districts that these drones are appearing nightly. First
Speaker 1: of all, please explain to me how allegedly the most
Speaker 1: sophisticated military in the history of mankind doesn't know where
Speaker 1: these drones are coming from.
Speaker 2: Please explain to me.
Speaker 1: If we can't identify that. What kind of chance do
Speaker 1: we stand when drones are weaponized and start taking people out,
Speaker 1: taking buildings out, taking cities out. So they either know
Speaker 1: and they won't tell us, or they don't know, and
Speaker 1: that's an indictment too. But anyway, this Congressman Jeff Van
Speaker 1: Andrew floated a theory two days ago that there might
Speaker 1: be a quote unquote mothership out in the Atlantic Ocean
Speaker 1: where these drones are being launched from, and that mothership
Speaker 1: may be linked to Iran. The Pentagon and the State
Speaker 1: Department both ridiculed this guy yesterday in press briefings, but
Speaker 1: yet offered no explanation about where these things are coming from.
Speaker 1: And they're flying over not only densely populated areas, they're
Speaker 1: flying over military installations, the electric grid and water supply.
Speaker 2: But they don't know where they're coming from.
Speaker 1: So anyway, this Congressman Jeff Van Drew makes this statement
Speaker 1: two days ago. He was back on I think it
Speaker 1: was this from do we get this from Fox? This
Speaker 1: is from Fox News Today on their morning show, the
Speaker 1: one that Bill Hemmer is on. And this is what
Speaker 1: the question was posed to him. Look, hey, the Pentagon
Speaker 1: says they don't know where they're coming from, and you
Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. The State Department says,
Speaker 1: they don't know where they're coming from, and you don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Here's and Drew's answer to that.
Speaker 6: They've been incredibly stupid and incredibly weak with this. Here's
Speaker 6: the point. We know they're not backyard drones that some
Speaker 6: hobbyist is using, because they're much more sophisticated than that.
Speaker 6: We know that they're not a commercial company within the
Speaker 6: United States because we don't even have this level of sophistication.
Speaker 6: Yet we are a full decade behind where China is
Speaker 6: with drones.
Speaker 3: The government claims it's not them.
Speaker 6: They say it's not them, So who is it. Well,
Speaker 6: I had credible individuals who have high security ratings and
Speaker 6: they came to me and again, these are dependable, credible
Speaker 6: individuals that have security clearance that felt that they wanted
Speaker 6: to clear the air. They were, in essence whistleblowers, and said, look,
Speaker 6: they believe there's a real possibility it could be Iran,
Speaker 6: that there could be a ship out not right on
Speaker 6: the coast of New Jersey, not right there. But these drones,
Speaker 6: as sighted by the Coastguard are coming in and out
Speaker 6: of the ocean. They're going to the ocean. They're not pontoons,
Speaker 6: they're not laying on the water. They're landing on something.
Speaker 6: We're not being told the truth.
Speaker 1: They are. Okay, So if that guy is spouting nonsense,
Speaker 1: then then offers something that would say he's spouting nonsense,
Speaker 1: other than just say he's spouting nonsense.
Speaker 2: Remember, this is the same.
Speaker 1: Group the DoD led by a guy that went a
Speaker 1: wall for two weeks, remember a year ago. Right now,
Speaker 1: he goes a wall. He's having surgery. He doesn't tell anybody,
Speaker 1: the DoD and the State Department. These are the same
Speaker 1: folks that let that balloon from China, spy balloon fly
Speaker 1: across the United States taking pictures of god knows what
Speaker 1: back in the winter of two thousand and twenty three,
Speaker 1: so about two years ago, and they shot it down.
Speaker 1: These drones allegedly are the size of either Mini vans
Speaker 1: or the hood of a car. Their various sizes. You
Speaker 1: mean to tell me that we have invested as much
Speaker 1: as we have invested in the Department of Defense and
Speaker 1: they can't shoot one of these damn things down. We
Speaker 1: don't have a rocket that can shoot it down, or
Speaker 1: don't we want to shoot it down. We're afraid to
Speaker 1: deal with it because it might be from a country
Speaker 1: that if we did something like that, they would do
Speaker 1: other things, which is what and Andrew is probably talking about.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not pulling this stuff out of his butt.
Speaker 1: Apparently he apparently has been briefed on this. Now, all
Speaker 1: those those trillions of dollars that we send to the military,
Speaker 1: you're telling me that they couldn't shoot one of these
Speaker 1: things down and then go get the remains and figure
Speaker 1: out what it is. I know, our drone technology, from
Speaker 1: what I've read, is not great, like our ability to
Speaker 1: defend our militarily from drone technology is not that great.
Speaker 1: And that's a major problem because future wars will not
Speaker 1: be fought with ground or sea or even air traditional
Speaker 1: air battles. They will be fought with things like the
Speaker 1: Internet and fought with things like drones. And from what
Speaker 1: I've been able to piece together that we're not all
Speaker 1: hip to that kind of warfare. So what are we
Speaker 1: risking if we do shoot one of those things down?
Speaker 1: Or maybe what can we find out? But again, this
Speaker 1: group that's been in power for the last four years.
Speaker 1: You know, you can now look back with what we
Speaker 1: talked about with COVID, what we know about the southern border,
Speaker 1: and what we know about now with this drones, and
Speaker 1: we can say, you know what, it's all kind of
Speaker 1: weaving into a pattern. Like the people in charge, well,
Speaker 1: they don't know what they do. They don't have no
Speaker 1: idea what they're doing. Power's great if you know what
Speaker 1: you're doing. If you don't, it could be lethal in
Speaker 1: the wrong way.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to deal with here before
Speaker 1: we get any further, there's a lot of buzz in
Speaker 1: this town about t Higgins staying with the Bengals at
Speaker 1: the end of the year. As we all know, he's
Speaker 1: a free agent at the end of the year, and
Speaker 1: that he has accepted a salary or i'm sorry, franchise
Speaker 1: tag to keep him here this year. He's making what
Speaker 1: is it, twenty one million dollars a year. The Bengals
Speaker 1: can do this, then they can give t Higgins a
Speaker 1: long term contract. They would have the wherewithal the salary
Speaker 1: cap next year. Teams are budgeting between two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty five and two hundred and seventy five million dollars
Speaker 1: for salary cap next year, so pick the middle ground
Speaker 1: there to seventy three. They right now have about sixty
Speaker 1: million dollars in salary cap space next year and probably
Speaker 1: will have some more when they release players. And let's
Speaker 1: hope that they release players at the end of this
Speaker 1: year because the group they have just has not been
Speaker 1: able to cut it. But the bigger question is is
Speaker 1: what does t Higgins want? Does he want money, will
Speaker 1: that be the driving force? Or does he want a
Speaker 1: chance to win a championship? And you know, emphasis on
Speaker 1: the word chance because even the best constructed teams don't
Speaker 1: always win championships. So we really don't know what he
Speaker 1: wants and he was being very coy about it in
Speaker 1: the locker room after that went over Dallas, Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: was wait, wait till wall we see what happens in
Speaker 1: this and that he's been very vocal about wanting t
Speaker 1: Higgins back. Okay, as a matter of fact, here's here's
Speaker 1: a little little proof of that. This is Burrow's news
Speaker 1: conference yesterday when it was raised about how do you
Speaker 1: go forward with the pieces that are important? This was
Speaker 1: his answer to that question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll.
Speaker 2: See after the season and talk.
Speaker 7: Have those discussions about you know, what we film needs
Speaker 7: to happen and things everybody has to do to do
Speaker 7: what we want and keep the guys around that we
Speaker 7: need and bringing the guys that we to fill some
Speaker 7: holes that we need, so those sessions will be had,
Speaker 7: you know at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope they save like one hundred dollars so
Speaker 1: they can invest in a microphone so you can actually
Speaker 1: hear what the reporters are asking in this news conference.
Speaker 1: It is, after all, the twenty first century. But anyway,
Speaker 1: back to what he needs. He's going to be twenty
Speaker 1: six in twenty twenty five, justin Jefferson will be twenty
Speaker 1: six next year. He's making thirty five million on an
Speaker 1: annual contract value. CD Lamb is making thirty four million.
Speaker 1: AJ Brown thirty two million. They're all roughly the same
Speaker 1: age as T Higgins. And then of course there is
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase, if he's not the best wide
Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL right now, he is certainly in
Speaker 1: the same conversation with Jefferson, Lamb and Brown, and I
Speaker 1: would put him at the top of that conversation. You
Speaker 1: have to do business with him if you don't do
Speaker 1: business with him. He skates, he will not be around,
Speaker 1: so they've got to do business with him. And it
Speaker 1: gets back to the old adage, can you overpay one
Speaker 1: position and not damage the rest of the team. The
Speaker 1: Bengals have never overpaid at one position. And when you
Speaker 1: look at what they need, they need defensive linemen. They
Speaker 1: need somebody desperately other than Trey Hendrickson to rush the quarterback.
Speaker 1: They need linebackers. I mean, they have Logan Wilson, but
Speaker 1: they need better linebackers. They need better people in the secondary.
Speaker 1: Mike Kilfen is an unrestricted free agent who knows if
Speaker 1: he's back on offense. They've got guard issues. They've got
Speaker 1: tremendous guard issues. Carris is doing well at center. They're
Speaker 1: already paying Orlando Brown a hefty sum. They could stand
Speaker 1: someone other than Chase Brown at running back. To me,
Speaker 1: if you if you've got a cap that's gonna come,
Speaker 1: it's gonna peak at two seventy three, and you're sixty
Speaker 1: million under that cap right now, and even do the
Speaker 1: math and all that. Okay, pay Higgins, but it means
Speaker 1: that you're probably not going to do what this team
Speaker 1: desperately is needed to do in at least the last
Speaker 1: ten years, and that is bring in top of the line,
Speaker 1: first day free agents who will make an impact. So
Speaker 1: they may say, you know what, We'll figure out a
Speaker 1: way to keep Tea. You know what, Joe Burrow may say,
Speaker 1: I'm making twenty five point three million next year. My
Speaker 1: cap hit is just over forty eight million. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll restructure by deal to keep Tea. We'll see, the
Speaker 1: biggest question is what does Tea want? If he wants
Speaker 1: to go somewhere and make wide Receiver one money which
Speaker 1: he will never make here with Jamar Chase, and I
Speaker 1: don't see how he stays here. If the Bengals want
Speaker 1: to go ahead and pay him equal to Jamar, maybe
Speaker 1: he does they do that? Where does the money come
Speaker 1: for these other positions they desperately need? All right, straight
Speaker 1: ahead on this year's show, why are we so in
Speaker 1: love in this country with bad boys and particularly people
Speaker 1: that do evil? Because it sure seems like that's rear
Speaker 1: and it's ugilyhead again with this Luigi Mangione, Dude, the
Speaker 1: average American in for the Great American seven hundred w
Speaker 1: welw all right, what a way it is the average
Speaker 1: American in for the great American on this Thursday.
Speaker 2: Glad you are with us. Out in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: The man that is charged and allegedly shot in the
Speaker 1: United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, is fighting extradition to New
Speaker 1: York to face charges on those particular crimes. He's fighting it,
Speaker 1: but eventually he will be extradited to New York and
Speaker 1: they will go forward with the charge and then the
Speaker 1: legal process in New York City. And as horrific and
Speaker 1: as heinous as that whole thing was captured on videotape,
Speaker 1: you know right now the networks are stopping the action
Speaker 1: right before he actually murders Brian Thompson. But it's out there,
Speaker 1: and originally it did air on cable television. It was
Speaker 1: it was it was horrible whoever it was to pull
Speaker 1: the trigger. And again you've got to be very very
Speaker 1: careful because everything is alleged until proven in a court
Speaker 1: of law. But the fact of the matter is they
Speaker 1: believe in New York they've got their guy, Luigi Mangione
Speaker 1: on this particular crime. Almost as disturbing, in fact, maybe
Speaker 1: more disturbing, because the American public does not always react
Speaker 1: well in times like these. There is a There is
Speaker 1: a desire now for merchandise around Luigi Mangione T shirts
Speaker 1: and hood the hoodies and coffee mugs and Christmas ornaments
Speaker 1: with DeFi a deny defend and depos the same things
Speaker 1: that were found on the bulletshell casings at the scene
Speaker 1: of the crime. Etsy seems to be the one platform
Speaker 1: where all of this stuff is available. Some of the
Speaker 1: other platforms like eBay and whatnot have at least tempered
Speaker 1: the taste of some in the public for this, but
Speaker 1: six of ten of the most engaged postings on x
Speaker 1: have either expressed explicit or implicit support for the killing.
Speaker 2: What's going on with our society?
Speaker 1: It would seem to me that we've got a real
Speaker 1: problem here with what's right and what's wrong. Standing by
Speaker 1: away and on this we've had doctor Vince Callahan on
Speaker 1: the show before. He is a mental health expert more
Speaker 1: than three decades of experience in both private practice and
Speaker 1: in patient hospital settings. It's great to have him back.
Speaker 1: Doctor Callahan, how are you on this glorious day.
Speaker 8: I'm doing great and thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: What is our attraction as a society to the quote
Speaker 1: unquote bad boy? What is our attraction to people that
Speaker 1: commit crimes like this. And it isn't just this one.
Speaker 1: There have been others. This is simply the most recent.
Speaker 1: But why is that such an attractive quality to some people?
Speaker 8: Well, to some people, they don't have a conscience or
Speaker 8: governor as I call it. They don't have the internal
Speaker 8: thing that says this is wrong, I shouldn't do this,
Speaker 8: And that to me is mental illness. That's where you
Speaker 8: get into sociopathic behavior. And that's when you get into
Speaker 8: one percent of the population. Yeah, about one percent, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So sociopaths seems to me that they're popping
Speaker 1: up all over the place here. If it's one percent,
Speaker 1: If the population of this country, let's just put it
Speaker 1: in a round numbers, is three hundred and forty million people,
Speaker 1: it would seem to me that they're about three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand sociopaths around this country right now.
Speaker 8: I'll even go one benner with you. There's about sixty
Speaker 8: million Americans who haven't diagnosed as a middle illness. And
Speaker 8: of that sixty million, there's nine million that are considered
Speaker 8: severely mainly ill, which is where this guy would fall,
Speaker 8: and only about one hundred thousand of those people actually
Speaker 8: get treatment.
Speaker 1: Oh, let's let's just examine what we know about about
Speaker 1: this guy. First of all, he goes to a prep
Speaker 1: school in Baltimore. It cost his parents forty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a year, apparently very broad Academically, he was the valedictorian
Speaker 1: of his class. He went to the University of Pennsylvania. Again,
Speaker 1: not a cheap from a tuition standpoint, place to go
Speaker 1: and apparently does very well there. Everybody that was around
Speaker 1: this guy up until apparently last week, everybody around this
Speaker 1: guy thought he was wonderful, That he was quiet but engaging,
Speaker 1: a good athlete, this and that, this and that. I
Speaker 1: guess he started to experience some back pain and that
Speaker 1: where maybe it went off the rails for him and
Speaker 1: his healthcare. But if he comes from all of that money,
Speaker 1: you would think he could afford healthcare what even was
Speaker 1: not covered by insurance. I mean his parents were loaded. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe he was at their plan because he had just
Speaker 1: I think turned twenty six and you're booted off your
Speaker 1: parents plan then, But mom and dad could have floated
Speaker 1: him some dough if they're willing to cough up tu
Speaker 1: wish to pen and also forty thousand dollars a year
Speaker 1: to go to high school. So where where could the
Speaker 1: disconnective come from?
Speaker 2: This guy?
Speaker 1: From being just so you know, into it with it
Speaker 1: good friends, seems nice to turn it around and allegedly
Speaker 1: murdering a healthcare ceo.
Speaker 8: Well, we don't know what happened with that back incident,
Speaker 8: that there's some kind of trauma that's associated there, and
Speaker 8: he may be one of those folks that are severely
Speaker 8: mentally ill that can get it together for a little
Speaker 8: bit time. Sometimes medicine sometimes doesn't and then something just snapped.
Speaker 2: Well you know, you know, you raise the med thing.
Speaker 1: It as me wondering was he on meds for his back,
Speaker 1: and was he on the wrong stuff the right stuff?
Speaker 1: Was he on any stuff for too long? Because as
Speaker 1: you well know, painkillers are great at masking a problem,
Speaker 1: they're not good at making the problem go away and
Speaker 1: could lead to other things like what we've been talking about.
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if that might have had something to
Speaker 1: do with it.
Speaker 8: It's possible, and I actually had something this morning that
Speaker 8: there's a possibility that he had lime disease, and that
Speaker 8: lime disease can cause psychosis in certain cases. So there's
Speaker 8: lots of questions that need to be answered here.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've established the fact that we've got about
Speaker 1: one percent of the population that are psychopathic, and we
Speaker 1: talked about this stat as to people that are severely
Speaker 1: mentally ill in this country. But I do think that
Speaker 1: those aren't the kinds of people that are going on
Speaker 1: Etsy or Amazon or any place else getting ornaments to
Speaker 1: say that I defend to pose t shirts on it
Speaker 1: and things like that. They may be people that are
Speaker 1: dangerous to themselves and other people, but this seems like
Speaker 1: a general This seems like a general public thing that's
Speaker 1: going on here. Where are we as a society that
Speaker 1: we would not only tolerate something like that but also
Speaker 1: have people that would actually go out and do that.
Speaker 8: Well, I arstly my professional opinion is we've lost our
Speaker 8: ability to have common sense. You know, we have gotten
Speaker 8: so involved in the Internet and we've disconnected from people,
Speaker 8: and we just have lost who we are as in society.
Speaker 8: And I tell people, even going back to COVID, we
Speaker 8: lost our collective ability to think when we all went
Speaker 8: through COVID. Seems like but yeah, to me, it's that
Speaker 8: flat somebody's buying this merchandise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is to me.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's easy to blame things on social
Speaker 1: media and COVID, but it's not wrong to social media.
Speaker 1: It's it's fairytale land. The people that like you or
Speaker 1: friend you, they're not your friends. They don't like you.
Speaker 1: Those aren't real people. The people that you need to
Speaker 1: be interacting with are other human beings, because we are
Speaker 1: a social people and we know now that COVID destroyed
Speaker 1: that ability. We just saw last week with that subcommittee
Speaker 1: report that came out of a Congressional committee that quite frankly,
Speaker 1: we had no idea as a society, medically or otherwise
Speaker 1: how to deal with COVID, and so we just threw
Speaker 1: a lot of crap up against the wall to see
Speaker 1: what's stuck. And now we're seeing ramifications of it. And
Speaker 1: with regards to with regards to social media, that's where
Speaker 1: idiocy and hatred go to blossom. So I think when
Speaker 1: people default to COVID and they default to Twitter and
Speaker 1: they're castigated for it saying it's too easy, well no,
Speaker 1: it's not too easy, because that, I think is the
Speaker 1: root of about what we're going to see here for
Speaker 1: a very long time, particularly the isolation that took place
Speaker 1: during COVID, and particularly for a certain age group of
Speaker 1: that thirteen to eighteen year old that was left to
Speaker 1: or his or her own devices in their home while
Speaker 1: mom and dad were doing something else. Maybe they were working,
Speaker 1: but somebody that was isolated from their friends. Doctor, I
Speaker 1: have great fears about that. If you're if the one
Speaker 1: percent of what you said is true, and there are
Speaker 1: thirty four we have three hundred and thirty four million people,
Speaker 1: ten percent would be a three point We'll forget the
Speaker 1: map if there's that's If there's that going on, even
Speaker 1: with that small number of people that are sociopathic, that's
Speaker 1: problems for this country down the road.
Speaker 2: How do we address that?
Speaker 8: We do and we've we've got to do a better
Speaker 8: job at taking care of the menly ill. We've got
Speaker 8: to get them the services and make it easier to
Speaker 8: get their meds and more accountability. There's some things we've
Speaker 8: got to step up and do of the people that
Speaker 8: know how to do this instead of just saying all
Speaker 8: the problem is going to go away and our next way.
Speaker 8: The things are these kids that have and I'm not
Speaker 8: against video games, but we've got so many kids that
Speaker 8: have played violent video games for so many years and
Speaker 8: what that does to the brain. Yeah, because so we
Speaker 8: need some help.
Speaker 2: You can't separate.
Speaker 1: A lot of these games are so sophisticated now that
Speaker 1: if you're someone who is not stable, you can't separate
Speaker 1: fantasy from reality. And these I mean, we all see
Speaker 1: the games and again you start talking about these things,
Speaker 1: and there's a certain generation that thinks, Alice, it's just
Speaker 1: two old guys talking and know what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: But quite frankly, to the wrong person sitting in front
Speaker 1: of a screen doing that for any amount of time
Speaker 1: during the day. You know how those games are. You
Speaker 1: shoot them up and everybody dies, and then the next
Speaker 1: thing you know, those same characters are back on their
Speaker 1: feet again.
Speaker 2: It's like it never happened.
Speaker 1: And people don't process that stuff the same way if
Speaker 1: they have other disconnects going into it. So again, I'm
Speaker 1: not a big censorship guy, doctor, but I am a
Speaker 1: big antenna guy, and I think a lot of this
Speaker 1: goes back to the family and mom and dad not
Speaker 1: being engaged with their kids and thinking they can give
Speaker 1: the kid everything the kid wants and if that doesn't
Speaker 1: fix it, just give them more money. When what the
Speaker 1: kid really needs is more time with mom and dad.
Speaker 1: That's what the kid needs. And until we get to
Speaker 1: that point, I don't know how you stop this stuff.
Speaker 8: We don't unless we get to a place where we
Speaker 8: become more attached in our families and start sending the
Speaker 8: truth right and wrong compass, We're not going to see
Speaker 8: in each It just happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're chatting with doctor Vince Callahan, mental health expert.
Speaker 1: You've been in private practice, as I've said, you've also
Speaker 1: been in inpatient hospital settings. If indeed that this this
Speaker 1: has been a you know, an interweave of social media
Speaker 1: and COVID, and now all of a sudden, this the
Speaker 1: thirteen to eighteen group that were isolated through COVID, now
Speaker 1: three or four years down the road, that eighteen group,
Speaker 1: the eighteen year old group, they're moving into their twenties.
Speaker 1: Right now, you've seen patients. How difficult is it to
Speaker 1: get to somebody that have these these ailments? And I
Speaker 1: know this is broadbrush, Not every elment is the same way,
Speaker 1: not every diagnosis is the same way. But to connect
Speaker 1: and get people back on the rails, so to speak,
Speaker 1: how difficult is that for someone who is a doctor
Speaker 1: of the mind.
Speaker 8: It takes me a little bit like I was talking
Speaker 8: to a eleven year old boy this week. So he
Speaker 8: doesn't like something, he breaks it. It's he wants something
Speaker 8: doesn't have, he steals it. It'll take me about here
Speaker 8: to get a conscience in this kid to let him
Speaker 8: know this is.
Speaker 2: Right and wrong.
Speaker 1: That's flightening in and of itself, because obviously we were
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of that. Well, doctor, I appreciate the
Speaker 1: insight into all of this. I'm disturbed on a number
Speaker 1: of levels, but particularly for people that want to go
Speaker 1: online some way, shape or form and get this stuff
Speaker 1: because they think it's funny when it's not.
Speaker 2: It's sick.
Speaker 1: It may not be sick to the degree of the
Speaker 1: one percent in this country that are sociopathic, but it
Speaker 1: certainly is sick in and of itself.
Speaker 2: I appreciate your time do it.
Speaker 8: Thank you so much for having me. And I'll just
Speaker 8: say this, if someone buys that stuff, that's a bit.
Speaker 2: Flag to me.
Speaker 1: I agree, then you're supporting something that shouldn't be. All right, doctor,
Speaker 1: doctor Callahan, doctor of Vince Callahan. You can find him
Speaker 1: at fine dashfl dot com, Fine dashfl dot com.
Speaker 2: Thank you, doctor, Thank thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Stumbled on my math there, but I said, if there
Speaker 1: are three hundred and forty million people here in this country,
Speaker 1: and one percent, as the doctor said, is sociopathic, and
Speaker 1: he said, sixty million are suffering from great mental illness,
Speaker 1: I mean really bad mental illness. But just take sociopathic
Speaker 1: for a moment again. Round numbers, three hundred and forty
Speaker 1: million in this country. Ten percent of three hundred and
Speaker 1: forty million is thirty four million. One percent would be
Speaker 1: three hundred and forty thousand. Now imagine that we get
Speaker 1: worked up, and rightfully so, over illegal aliens in this
Speaker 1: country to the tune of at least eleven and who
Speaker 1: knows how many more that got away. But if he's
Speaker 1: right one percent, we got three hundred and forty thousand
Speaker 1: people walking around the streets right now that shouldn't be
Speaker 1: on the streets. Put that in your cheerios, and the
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Speaker 9: five right here on seven hundred WLW. Now, what about
Speaker 9: the you know Joe Burrow got burglarized? He did, but
Speaker 9: then he lobbied hard again yesterday for the team to
Speaker 9: keep number five T Higgins.
Speaker 3: What is he?
Speaker 9: Obviously he knows something. I mean just kind of saying, hey,
Speaker 9: you know, keep this guy.
Speaker 1: Seg I've done the numbers here, go ahead, all right,
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, is it bigger? Salary cap next
Speaker 1: year is going to be like two hundred and seven
Speaker 1: and two hundred and seventy two hundred seventy five million.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be the salary cap.
Speaker 1: Okay, the Bengals right now, if yous a look at
Speaker 1: players under contract for next year, they got about sixty
Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space. If you're going to sign
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, which if they didn't, they might as just
Speaker 1: pack up the tent and head to San Antonio. But
Speaker 1: if they're not going, if they're going to sign Jamar Chase,
Speaker 1: and let's just say his average annual value is somewhere
Speaker 1: between thirty five to forty million, well so I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it might not be forty million next year against
Speaker 1: the cap.
Speaker 2: It might be I don't know.
Speaker 1: Now you're telling me you got money left over to
Speaker 1: sign T Higgins when you have so many other needs
Speaker 1: on your roster, not the least of which is the
Speaker 1: interior offensive line, your linebackers, and your defensive secondary. You're
Speaker 1: gonna find all of money to go out and get
Speaker 1: impactful free agents. To kind you signed on day one
Speaker 1: if you're only walking around out there with maybe like
Speaker 1: thirty million in cap space.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe Joe Burrow takes a pay cut, maybe he restructures
Speaker 1: his deal.
Speaker 9: I would say so to defer that, you gotta defer
Speaker 9: his money big time.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, I'm just.
Speaker 1: Saying you've got to at least I guess exploire those options.
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they've ever overpaid for one
Speaker 1: position in their history, and now all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they're going to do it. And that doesn't even get
Speaker 1: into what t Higgins wants. Does he want money? Does
Speaker 1: he want to chase a championship? Does he really want
Speaker 1: to stay here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know he changed agents, But I think there are
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts here. When you got a
Speaker 1: lot of people on social media and these Bengal experts
Speaker 1: running around saying, yeah, es sign, I'm giving the money
Speaker 1: you can afford it. Yeah, it's kind of like it.
Speaker 1: It ain't monopoly money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: I know what you're saying. Maybe go fund me.
Speaker 2: They could do a go fundme.
Speaker 8: Paige.
Speaker 1: I got an email or from one of my many stock,
Speaker 1: I mean listeners. John He said he saw on ESPN
Speaker 1: this morning that the Pentagon He's going to call up
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow to lead Sealed Team six on a mission
Speaker 1: to take out the mothership sitting off the coast that's
Speaker 1: been flying drones over our airspace.
Speaker 8: See that? Wow?
Speaker 1: How about that Sealed Team six with Joe Burrow and
Speaker 1: he's gonna take out those drones. Joe Burrow is gonna
Speaker 1: save the world. It's gonna save the world sake. It's
Speaker 1: gonna save the world.
Speaker 9: He's like our uh our deal with Like he's like
Speaker 9: James Bond of America.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: We know he's Batman, so maybe he can be James Bond.
Speaker 1: Oh that's true. I want to see the Batmobile. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that's his that. I'm not sure that's a
Speaker 1: done deal yet. I'm not sure if if Burrow offers
Speaker 1: you a ride in the Batmobile, would you do it
Speaker 1: like in the sidecar like Robin?
Speaker 9: Sure?
Speaker 2: Would you be boy wonder? Yeah? Why not? You have
Speaker 2: to put a costume on though, That's all.
Speaker 9: Right, okay, and be a fat Robin.
Speaker 1: Then, as Nick Clooney one said, if you don't have
Speaker 1: an act, get.
Speaker 9: A costume college football can Brew Colorado Star two way
Speaker 9: player Travis Hunter. It's been named the Associated Press College
Speaker 9: Football Player of the Year. Of course, I would think
Speaker 9: he's the odds on favorite to win the Heisman Trophy
Speaker 9: to be awarded on Saturday.
Speaker 1: You draft that guy, you get a wide receiver and
Speaker 1: a defensive back.
Speaker 2: How about that? You save it all one Salary said,
Speaker 2: I mean he's gonna go.
Speaker 9: Where's he gonna go to the Carolina Panthers or something?
Speaker 2: This thing.
Speaker 9: Might be it might be here. It's true college basketball.
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Speaker 2: I'm confused we're doing that live right? Yeah?
Speaker 9: But what's that thing at six you talked about? Is
Speaker 9: that a live bar show too? Yeah? What's that one?
Speaker 2: That's uh? What is it here?
Speaker 9: That's uh the uh Cincinnati Tax Resolution Roundtable show? And
Speaker 9: who's doing that that's Lance and rock and Rocky and
Speaker 9: that's at a bar, right, Yeah, where's that bar in
Speaker 9: Wilder and Wilder. And then we go immediately to after that,
Speaker 9: we go to the West Miller Show. Correct, that's at
Speaker 9: the Montgomery in with Dan Hard and Jim and I
Speaker 9: guess Terry Nelson.
Speaker 2: It would be Dan and Terry. Yeah. I feel like
Speaker 2: I feel like slighted.
Speaker 1: I never I never get like a bar to sponsor me,
Speaker 1: other than of course, little Miami Brewing. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: and that's that's a that's a whole restaurant.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but all those guys, all those other guys are
Speaker 9: jealous of you because you got a beer.
Speaker 2: Named after Well, I have several named after but b Miller,
Speaker 2: ken brewce Brew. I mean, come on, I got it.
Speaker 1: I was just confused as to where that was going. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're going back to back road shows, is what
Speaker 1: we're doing.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: So you realize that the starting quarterback for the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans maybe out this week, Malika, I'm sorry, Will Lovis,
Speaker 1: and Mason Rudolph may be starting that game. How about that?
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph, a late of the Steelers, may be starting
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 9: Well, and they're three and ten. They better win that
Speaker 9: game too, because well, hell's going to break loose.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you they got they got. Look at
Speaker 1: these connections. They got Tyler Boyd. He's hurt, but he
Speaker 1: may play. He's on that team.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Callahan.
Speaker 1: Josh Wiley's tight end. I believe he played at the
Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati. He's on that team. Uh, shout away
Speaker 1: a woozy A remember him. He's on that team. He's
Speaker 1: on that team. And I've got a lot and then
Speaker 1: of course the head coach, They've got a lot of
Speaker 1: Cincinnati connections on that team.
Speaker 8: Huh.
Speaker 9: See what happens, Ken saying, Nick, I'm just over. They
Speaker 9: can knock off the Titans and then come home here
Speaker 9: for a couple of weeks and then end things in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Where's your boy today? I wish him a happy birthday yesterday?
Speaker 1: How old was he?
Speaker 9: Did he turn seventy eight? He's seventy eight. Yeah, he's
Speaker 9: under the weather today.
Speaker 2: I know. I know that.
Speaker 1: Why else would I be in here, you know? But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that he's really seventy eight. He looks
Speaker 1: good for a guy that age.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so you know, so he's just become a party animal.
Speaker 2: Now, well he must be. I don't know.
Speaker 9: Said we got anything else here, nothing, ken Brew, nothing,
Speaker 9: that's about it.
Speaker 2: Well you might as well get us out of the
Speaker 2: We got all.
Speaker 9: The sponsors in the more sponsors on a NASCAR team.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we're just one big fire suit at
Speaker 1: this place. By the way, what are they doing with
Speaker 1: the Kentucky Speedway? Do they do anything there, any testing
Speaker 1: or anything. They're doing nothing, just getting weeds. That's just
Speaker 1: sitting right there. Tell you, man, turn it into an
Speaker 1: F one track, Get an F one race. I want
Speaker 1: to go down there, ken Brew, But I think i'd
Speaker 1: start crying Entucky Speedway. Yeah, Jerry Carroll, let's start crying too.
Speaker 1: You lost on that.
Speaker 9: He is still I don't know.
Speaker 1: Last I heard he was he was doing horse racing
Speaker 1: in the Bahamas or someplace. He had a horse racing
Speaker 1: track in the Bahamas.
Speaker 9: I don't know, contact with him in a few years.
Speaker 9: So well that's the last I heard.
Speaker 1: And they were they had to ship the horses in,
Speaker 1: you know, they were flying them in from like Miami
Speaker 1: or someplace, right right. He was a good man, Amen
Speaker 1: to that he is good man, say get us out
Speaker 1: of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 9: Ken Brew and utter of a cold day, and you
Speaker 9: need tempstar quality you can feel. We leave you with
Speaker 9: the immortal words of the Stood Report.
Speaker 1: It is always great to have you amongst us. Thank
Speaker 1: you again for your health tonight.
Speaker 9: You're just saying that because wild Man Walker wasn't available
Speaker 9: for segment two tonight.
Speaker 2: Well think I know who called him first. I gotta go.
Speaker 9: I got a ten o'clock gig tonight at the retirement
Speaker 9: village in Blue Asshore. We're supposed to play Naked Twister.
Speaker 2: Well say that was a well written show.
Speaker 9: Amen to that, ken Brew, and they canceled the damn thing.
Speaker 9: When I went to Channel nine, they were they should
Speaker 9: have taken the idea with you.
Speaker 1: See, the problem is in this town people keep toying
Speaker 1: with my legacy. Maybe I moved around too much, but
Speaker 1: they keep toying with my legacy.
Speaker 9: You should have put should have put a trademark on that.
Speaker 9: I probably should have. I think we still there's the costume.
Speaker 9: I think still exists somewhere.
Speaker 1: But you know again, it's it's intellectual property of somebody.
Speaker 9: Charlie Clifford's desk or something down there at five. Who
Speaker 9: the new the uh the sports guy down there? Not
Speaker 9: familiar with him? Maybe Ken Brew. It might be hanging
Speaker 9: up at Channel five and like the Hall of Fame
Speaker 9: or something.
Speaker 1: It could be right next to maybe like Curtis Fuller.
Speaker 1: And who else is in it? John London's in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, John les in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: there you go. I don't think they'll be calling me
Speaker 1: anytime soon to join the Hall of Fame at Channel five.
Speaker 2: Well you got you got it in a hall of
Speaker 2: fame a couple of months ago. You did.
Speaker 9: I absolutely doesn't saw you had like a giant picture yourself.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know what I heard? You put that
Speaker 2: in your yard? No, Well, it's.
Speaker 1: Hanging proudly in uh an establishment in Loveland, Ohio by
Speaker 1: the name of Paxton's.
Speaker 2: Everybody around that town, those Paxton's. And it's hanging up
Speaker 2: on the wall.
Speaker 9: There you go.
Speaker 2: It's just outside the men's room, so you can't.
Speaker 1: See it.
Speaker 2: About four forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, can Brew, Yes, sir, all right, there's sig
Speaker 1: He's happy. I'm happy. Are you happy?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: If you're not, I can't help you because we're all
Speaker 1: about happy on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Well, coming up at about six minutes.
Speaker 1: In six minutes down on Tobacco Road, Bill Belichick will
Speaker 1: be introduced as the new head football coach at the
Speaker 1: University of North Carolina. A board of meeting before the
Speaker 1: board of Trustees was hastily called today to approve a
Speaker 1: five year contract for Bill Belichick. He's seventy two, He's
Speaker 1: got all those Super bowls, left the Patriots a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. Seventy two years old. Well, we know
Speaker 1: he can recruit. He's got a twenty four year old girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Apparently his father coached at North Carolina at one point. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they're going to introduce him at a news conference here
Speaker 1: in about six minutes. Tar Hills Athletic director Bubba Cunningham,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is working for a guy named Bubba said
Speaker 1: that Belichick's positions, positions the program will amid the changing
Speaker 1: landscape of college sports. Now that is serious, because college
Speaker 1: football is changing, as we know by the minute, because
Speaker 1: of the nil because of the portal, Teams that look
Speaker 1: one way on one year can look vastly different the
Speaker 1: next year. And that's why teams can go from not
Speaker 1: very good to very good to great inside of a
Speaker 1: couple of years. It's not like the old I got
Speaker 1: to go out and recruit and then I'm stuck with
Speaker 1: this kid for the next four or five years, even
Speaker 1: if he can't play. So anyway, the first thing that
Speaker 1: Belichick did was higher a guy by the name of
Speaker 1: Mike Lombardy who was a general manager at many places
Speaker 1: in the NFL, including the Browns and including the Las
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. I mean, the guy knows football. But just
Speaker 1: think about that for a second. College football programs now
Speaker 1: have general managers, and now North Carolina has Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: And if you think college football is anything like it
Speaker 1: was even five years ago, brother, you need to cuver reality.
Speaker 1: It is changing by the minute. We'll break here, we'll
Speaker 1: break there, and coming up at two o'clock. While you're
Speaker 1: miserable at your job. You don't even have to tell
Speaker 1: me you're miserable at your job. I already know because everybody, apparently,
Speaker 1: according to Gallup, wants a new job in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: I ain't going anywhere. Seven hundred wylw all right, seven
Speaker 1: hundred WYLW two or mine, welcome back. It's the average
Speaker 1: American and for the great American on this day, this
Speaker 1: chilly day here in the tri State. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of unknowns in the world right now. We're not
Speaker 1: sure about a lot of things anymore. But we do
Speaker 1: know this. You have a very good chance of looking
Speaker 1: for a new job in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: How do I know that?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't have any information on your job stability.
Speaker 1: All I know is what Gallup, the survey company, reported
Speaker 1: last week. It found that employees are actively looking to
Speaker 1: switch job at the highest rate since twenty fifteen, But unfortunately,
Speaker 1: because of the cooling job market, they're not finding a
Speaker 1: whole lot of luck. But why are we so restless
Speaker 1: now when it comes to where we work, who we
Speaker 1: work for? A lot of people seem to think COVID
Speaker 1: made everybody stop and pause. Is this what I really
Speaker 1: want to do in life? And because of that created
Speaker 1: uncertainty and job movement, And maybe the movement we made
Speaker 1: was not the one that we really wanted to and
Speaker 1: so we continue to search. But what are we searching for?
Speaker 1: Where is that nirvana that's out there that will deliver
Speaker 1: the exact job at the exact salary that you want,
Speaker 1: and is all of this what Gallup says is about
Speaker 1: to happen. Is it all just an exercise and futility
Speaker 1: standing by the way in He is the author of
Speaker 1: an upcoming new book, Leading Relationships, Build meaningful connections, eliminate conflict,
Speaker 1: and radically improve engagement. He is Steve McClatchy, and he's
Speaker 1: kind enough to give us some of his time here
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. Steve McClatchy, how are you on
Speaker 1: this glorious day?
Speaker 8: Good ken, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Glad to be here.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here because I have a question that's
Speaker 1: been burning inside of me for several years now, and
Speaker 1: that is why, from an employment standpoint, are we so
Speaker 1: restless now in the United States? Why do we keep
Speaker 1: looking for that next best thing even though what we
Speaker 1: have ain't all that bad.
Speaker 2: What's going on here?
Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, there's a lot of change that happened. Of course,
Speaker 10: there's the remnants of COVID and everybody switched. So now
Speaker 10: you have disruption in your workflow, in your personnel and
Speaker 10: your employee consistency that of course always disrupts things. Then
Speaker 10: this hybrid work ken has really become challenging. I mean
Speaker 10: When are you remote? When are you in person? And
Speaker 10: then when you're remote, when are you working? When do
Speaker 10: you start? When do you end your day? If you
Speaker 10: work at night, can you take off during the day?
Speaker 8: How long was your lune? There's a lot of suspicion.
Speaker 8: There's a lot.
Speaker 10: I mean business is based on agreements. I mean, let's
Speaker 10: do business. Can I give you ten dollars? You give
Speaker 10: me a sandwich?
Speaker 3: We just did business.
Speaker 10: The foundation of all commerce is agreements. And what this
Speaker 10: did was it messed up all of our agreements. Now
Speaker 10: we're wondering how do we work? And then when we
Speaker 10: come into the office, are the right people that need
Speaker 10: to be in the office there that we need to
Speaker 10: collaborate with and to innovate with and are their schedules
Speaker 10: matching with our schedule? It really disrupted. Then you have inflation,
Speaker 10: and what did inflation do? It changed the customer's expectations.
Speaker 10: You're paying more, you want more?
Speaker 8: Well, that's how it happened.
Speaker 10: You're paying more and you're getting the exact same things
Speaker 10: that you used to get.
Speaker 3: And that.
Speaker 10: Frustration and those demands make it very difficult. I mean
Speaker 10: the customer one's quality and speed and look all this
Speaker 10: disruption is making us slower, and we got to figure
Speaker 10: it out. We got to get it right, and we
Speaker 10: got to get back to understanding our agreements, following through
Speaker 10: and delivering on that quality of speak better than our competition.
Speaker 10: So our customer picks us over our competitor.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants it right now, doesn't matter what it is,
Speaker 1: we want it right now. And therein lies the secret
Speaker 1: to Amazon. They can give it to you right now.
Speaker 1: So they've kind of figured it out. But I want
Speaker 1: to go back to this workforce and away from the
Speaker 1: office in COVID and all this this hybrid workforce. You
Speaker 1: made a great point. Okay, So some of these companies
Speaker 1: have gone to where you got to come in three days.
Speaker 1: You can work remotely for two. But you're right, are
Speaker 1: the same people you need to deal with in there
Speaker 1: with you if you're indeed picking the three days you
Speaker 1: go into work. And I understand completely now why people
Speaker 1: that own companies, the guys in the C suite, they
Speaker 1: want everybody back in the building a lot of reasons. One,
Speaker 1: they're probably paying rent on the building, or they're paying
Speaker 1: a note on the building if they own it. So
Speaker 1: what's the sense of having a building. And secondly, I
Speaker 1: want a three D relationship. I don't want a two
Speaker 1: D relationship. I want to see you, talk to you.
Speaker 1: If I want to see you immediately, I want to
Speaker 1: go see you, or if we're going to have a meeting,
Speaker 1: we can do it right there. So I totally get
Speaker 1: what employers want to do, but it doesn't seem that's
Speaker 1: what employees want. And that's why I think we have
Speaker 1: this unrest.
Speaker 10: And do you think that MutS the solution I do,
Speaker 10: and that is going to keep going back and forth
Speaker 10: until somebody takes the bull by the horns and says, look,
Speaker 10: the customer's quality and speed. If we can deliver that
Speaker 10: quality and speed in two D, let's do it. If
Speaker 10: it's faster, if it's cheaper, it's the fleas is expensive,
Speaker 10: fantastic if we can. That's the reason we go back
Speaker 10: into the office. These mandates that you have to come
Speaker 10: back in the office because I liked it when you
Speaker 10: were here.
Speaker 8: That's not good enough message.
Speaker 10: They'll go somewhere else. So you have to say, look,
Speaker 10: we delivered it this fast. You have to time stuff.
Speaker 10: You have to look at from start to completion, how
Speaker 10: long it took, What was the quality of it. Did
Speaker 10: it be when we were in person? And if not,
Speaker 10: we have a business reason to go back into the
Speaker 10: workplace to go back in person.
Speaker 8: So that build a business case. It doesn't have to
Speaker 8: be just.
Speaker 10: Your opinion and what you want. The customer wants it.
Speaker 10: If we're going to grow our busin if we're going
Speaker 10: to beat our competition in the market, we've got to
Speaker 10: be first and we got to be the best in
Speaker 10: the fastest. So I look at it that way, and
Speaker 10: then you look at you know, with all these new changes,
Speaker 10: what we're not getting to can is the number one thing.
Speaker 8: That drives engagement.
Speaker 10: And if you wanted a silver bullet with the answer
Speaker 10: to this, if you on a scale of one to five,
Speaker 10: give your boss a five, you strongly agree that your
Speaker 10: boss emphasizes your strengths. You get appreciated, you're valued right,
Speaker 10: you're not taken for granted. Your engagement score goes from
Speaker 10: under twenty percent to over sixty percent. That's a forty
Speaker 10: percent jump. Now, what is engagement. It's measured with discretionary effort.
Speaker 10: So ken if you come in and do your job
Speaker 10: and do it well every day, you're considered disengaged.
Speaker 8: That's not even fair. But what is engagement? You do
Speaker 8: more than your paig.
Speaker 10: You come in early, you stay late, work on the weekend,
Speaker 10: you help somebody else with their job, and that's not
Speaker 10: your job you are doing. That's why it's so valuable.
Speaker 8: So how do you drive engagement?
Speaker 10: The number one if you're looking for the silver bullet
Speaker 10: number one ingredient that drives engagement is when people feel genuinely,
Speaker 10: authentically specifically appreciated and they're valued for their strengths. But ken,
Speaker 10: when's the last time you heard a compliment where they
Speaker 10: didn't stay butt at the end of it In this business,
Speaker 10: never right, never, So immediately that manager just showed you,
Speaker 10: I'm working in my own best interest, not yours.
Speaker 8: I've been holding on.
Speaker 10: To positive feedback until I had negative feedback to give you.
Speaker 10: I just showed my hand. I'm working in my own
Speaker 10: best interest, not yours.
Speaker 8: When you can sincerely.
Speaker 10: Give positive feedback and not say butt and leave that
Speaker 10: butt for a completely separate conversation, then you are driving
Speaker 10: engagement into your business. If you can then connect that celebration,
Speaker 10: that recognition to the mission and values and the impact
Speaker 10: your organization is having. Right in the marketplace, people want
Speaker 10: to know that what they're doing makes a difference, and
Speaker 10: if you can connect those dots, you can re engage
Speaker 10: your employees.
Speaker 8: And they're not looking, but.
Speaker 10: The ones that are looking are telling you that's why
Speaker 10: they're looking.
Speaker 1: I think everything you said is been spot on. I
Speaker 1: think everything you've said is spot on. But where there's
Speaker 1: my butt? But where does that next job exist, where
Speaker 1: there is that kind of encouragement, where there is that
Speaker 1: kind of appreciation, where there is meritocracy, where if you
Speaker 1: do the job and then go the extra mile, you're appreciated.
Speaker 1: It seems to me that this is a if not
Speaker 1: a generational thing, it's a disconnect between management and employee,
Speaker 1: and that in truth, whenever you have that, the problem
Speaker 1: lies with management, it doesn't lie with the employee. They're
Speaker 1: running the show. They know what the goals of the
Speaker 1: company are. So it seems to me what we're talking about,
Speaker 1: if it isn't problem lies in the c suite, not
Speaker 1: necessarily with the worker.
Speaker 2: Bees tell me I'm wrong, getting.
Speaker 8: It on, I can't.
Speaker 10: You're dead spot on, Ken, That's exactly. We have leaders
Speaker 10: that don't know how to lead. And if you were
Speaker 10: promoted because you're the best worker, you have a tough
Speaker 10: time getting everybody around you to be better at their job.
Speaker 10: And that's the job of a leader is to make
Speaker 10: everybody around you better in you're going to need skills
Speaker 10: to do that in the first skill you're going to
Speaker 10: need is conflict resolution, because nothing will break engagement faster
Speaker 10: than conflict. And then you need to understand how to
Speaker 10: give feedback, both positive and improvement feedback. And then you
Speaker 10: start to build business cases so everything makes sense as
Speaker 10: to why we do it the way we do it,
Speaker 10: and you can re engage and not many leaders have
Speaker 10: that training. And that's what I do for a living.
Speaker 10: I go into businesses and I help them establish what
Speaker 10: are the skill sets you need to take. I ask
Speaker 10: people all the time, do you like your boss? If
Speaker 10: they say yes, I ask what do you like about
Speaker 10: your boss? You're ready for the number one answer. They're like,
Speaker 10: the boss leaves me alone. I'm like, could the bar
Speaker 10: be lower?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 10: Just leave people alone. You'll be the best boss they
Speaker 10: ever had. We need we can do better than that,
Speaker 10: and we need leaders that bring a lot more than
Speaker 10: that to their business and to the employees that work
Speaker 10: for them.
Speaker 1: I don't think of employers. I shouldn't lump them all
Speaker 1: into the same category. But I think a lot of
Speaker 1: them don't understand that the most expensive thing they're ever
Speaker 1: going to do is hire an employee. The finding, the
Speaker 1: training and then that of an employee comes back in six, eight, ten,
Speaker 1: a month, twelve months, a year, and they say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I I'm going to move on. Then you're
Speaker 1: back into that cycle again, and you never get out
Speaker 1: of that that rat wheel. You're constantly looking for new employees.
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, there aren't a lot of
Speaker 1: these jobs that are available that were available a scant
Speaker 1: year and a half two years ago. So I'm not
Speaker 1: sure where the pathway is to get from where you are,
Speaker 1: where you're not getting what you need either from a
Speaker 1: support standpoint or a salary standpoint, to where you're going
Speaker 1: to go. It seems like the road is a lot
Speaker 1: narrower than it was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, you've identified the problem, and the problem is
Speaker 10: it's expensive to turn over your employees. And you know,
Speaker 10: averages say that it costs the person's salary to two
Speaker 10: times their salary to turn them over, So what does
Speaker 10: it cost to retain them?
Speaker 8: Less?
Speaker 10: Invest in retaining the employees it's less expensive than turning
Speaker 10: them over, So that's important that you identify it's very expensive.
Speaker 10: Now employees are thinking, if I go somewhere else, it's going.
Speaker 2: To be better.
Speaker 8: The relationship.
Speaker 10: The number one thing that drives your engagement and your
Speaker 10: attention within an organization is the relationship you have with
Speaker 10: your immediate manager. And again, when you don't have the
Speaker 10: skills and understand what's expected of you as a leader,
Speaker 10: it's tough. And you don't possess those skills and you're
Speaker 10: not bringing it into your relationships. It's tough to engage
Speaker 10: those employees and keep them. And now what they're leaving
Speaker 10: for is to go get it somewhere else, and they
Speaker 10: don't always find it. So now we have people searching.
Speaker 10: The economy cooled and there's nowhere to go. And then
Speaker 10: this is being labeled the Great detachment.
Speaker 1: Steve mcclatchyer, I guess the author of the new upcoming book.
Speaker 1: I think it gets released just after the first of
Speaker 1: the year, Leading Relationships, Building management, build meaningful connections, eliminate conflict,
Speaker 1: and radically improve engagement. You've been on the Best Times
Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller list.
Speaker 2: A couple of times, right yes.
Speaker 8: Yes.
Speaker 10: My first book was called The Side and it hit
Speaker 10: number two and we were really excited about that. In
Speaker 10: this next book, it does release on February fifth, and
Speaker 10: it's looking good. The pre sale have it launching as
Speaker 10: a national bestseller.
Speaker 8: So really that's great this one too.
Speaker 10: I mean, you can see there's a need for this
Speaker 10: in the market.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it says here you consult a lot of groups,
Speaker 1: a lot of companies, including the Baltimore Ravens, who are
Speaker 1: hated here in Cincinnati. What are you telling them so
Speaker 1: we can maybe beat the crap out of them when
Speaker 1: we see him again at some point?
Speaker 10: You know, it's funny then when the professional teams put
Speaker 10: food on the table for your for your family, all
Speaker 10: of a sudden, you don't hate them. You know, I'm
Speaker 10: outside of Philadelphia, so yeah, OK, funny when they become customers,
Speaker 10: all of a sudden, you're.
Speaker 8: Rooting for them, right right?
Speaker 1: People say ask me all the time, who do you
Speaker 1: root for us? I'm a fan of the legal tender
Speaker 1: because that one never fails me, solo.
Speaker 8: Never goes wrong. So I appreciate them, I do.
Speaker 1: No, So the great detachment as you just as you
Speaker 1: just analyze there Steve, I mean, is it going to happen?
Speaker 1: Do you sense in twenty twenty five this unrest for
Speaker 1: whatever reason is going to carry into the new year?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 10: One hundred percent. This is going in the direct It's
Speaker 10: very difficult to turn around from but the manager, the
Speaker 10: organizations that do it, the ones that have the leaders
Speaker 10: that know how to do it, are going to win.
Speaker 10: I mean, this is a problem, and problems are there
Speaker 10: to be solved. When there's no problems in the marketplace,
Speaker 10: there's no work to do. This is the work engagement
Speaker 10: is the biggest problem. And I keep saying that with
Speaker 10: my book, it's addressing one of the biggest problems. I mean,
Speaker 10: every once in a while there's a problem. It's once
Speaker 10: in a decade, and it is a retention and an
Speaker 10: engagement of your employees. And my book and my workshops
Speaker 10: are all about what are the skills you need to
Speaker 10: reignite that and the companies that do it will win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. I hope we can do this again
Speaker 1: in the meantime. You're available. I understand at alliyear dot
Speaker 1: com a L L E e er dot com.
Speaker 2: Is that where people can find you?
Speaker 10: Oh fantastic, Yes, Thanks Ken, yep, a double L double er.
Speaker 10: My email is Steve atleear dot com. I do conferences,
Speaker 10: leadership development, keynote speeches, retreats, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, we have a couple of fortune five hundred companies
Speaker 1: in this town and a lot of great businesses.
Speaker 2: Sounds like some of them use what you're offering, Steve McClatchy.
Speaker 1: You take care, you stay well and best for you
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Let's do this again.
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah again, this is fun. Thanks for having me, Bet.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that we've had a lot of
Speaker 1: job movement since COVID, and I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people are struggling with I got to return to the office.
Speaker 1: But you look at it from the employer standpoint, what
Speaker 1: stress is he under? Well, they got these big buildings
Speaker 1: with rent they have to pay and notes if they
Speaker 1: own it, so they've got to justify that as well.
Speaker 1: But it's clear, and it may be a generational thing,
Speaker 1: but it's clear that a large group, and I'll say
Speaker 1: it's the under forty crowd, does not really look like
Speaker 1: they have any great desire to be inside an office,
Speaker 1: and so they want that kind of hybrid, if not work.
Speaker 2: Alone at home atmosphere.
Speaker 1: And the people that run these companies are a little
Speaker 1: bit older, and maybe they don't get that yet, but
Speaker 1: I think there's got to be some of intersection with
Speaker 1: this because the jobs aren't out there for those that
Speaker 1: want those kind of jobs. The worker bees and as
Speaker 1: we just talked about, there's nothing more expensive for a
Speaker 1: guy that does the hiring, the boss, whomever it may be,
Speaker 1: the owner, nothing more expensive than constantly trying to hire
Speaker 1: new help two twenty four average American and for the
Speaker 1: great American seven hundred.
Speaker 9: W welw. Well, after seeing some of the ties you
Speaker 9: wear on News five, maybe there ought to be a
Speaker 9: few new ones in your future. Why you ought to
Speaker 9: see how the Wizard dresses when he's out on the town.
Speaker 9: He looking clean. It drives the hair. I'm crazy, but
Speaker 9: I digress.
Speaker 4: Hello, quiet, and I'm SKO.
Speaker 9: I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: Now, seg I got about one hundred ties that I
Speaker 1: never got rid of. I don't know why I'm keeping
Speaker 1: them because you only need one or two. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you when you die, you just need to tie.
Speaker 1: They can only lay out one.
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, you had to look styley. Everybody asked look
Speaker 9: stylish on TV. I mean, look at dartists, look at
Speaker 9: you know the uh McKee on Channel nine and uh
Speaker 9: you know all the all the ones on Channel twelve. Yeah,
Speaker 9: you gotta look, you gotta you gotta look. You gotta
Speaker 9: look your bead, you know, like Frank Malzulu on nineteen
Speaker 9: or the people on Night you know TV.
Speaker 2: You gotta look your best.
Speaker 1: You can't look like you just fell off the back
Speaker 1: of a turnip truck.
Speaker 2: A couple of them do, but I'm not going to
Speaker 2: say what.
Speaker 1: Or or like the woman who might have been president said,
Speaker 1: like you just fell out of a coconut tree. That's
Speaker 1: for sure. Ken, if you want any of those ties,
Speaker 1: I'll give them to you. I got a bunch of ties,
Speaker 1: like the Nicole Miller, who was a fashion designer, put
Speaker 1: out a whole line of Beatles ties based on their music.
Speaker 1: About that, like every single one of them. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do with them.
Speaker 9: Well, you're the musical genius of the tri State. You
Speaker 9: gotta keep them.
Speaker 1: Or walking them off or something. But nobody, nobody, nobody
Speaker 1: wears ties anymore. I see people as now they don't
Speaker 1: want tie. Yeah, that's that's a good point. I mean
Speaker 1: right like they you know, I always wore tie because
Speaker 1: I thought it completed the outfit. Now that might be
Speaker 1: old guy thing, but I'm seeing some of these people
Speaker 1: here local television even.
Speaker 2: They're not wearing ties. They were going unmade bed. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Look that's a good point.
Speaker 8: You're nice kid.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, dress up, act like you know. It's
Speaker 9: an important job.
Speaker 2: Ken Brew.
Speaker 9: Thee is Stooge reporters, approut Service, every local tame Star
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Speaker 9: Cincinnati Coach Schmid Heating and Coolie Ash five one three
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Speaker 2: I just make it up. It does sixty nine hundred spot.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Roxy.
Speaker 9: You need temestar now because well it's going to be
Speaker 9: cold today and then like fifty or sixty tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Is it going up to fifty or sixty tomorrow?
Speaker 9: I think it's something fifty something at least, maybe something
Speaker 9: like that.
Speaker 2: That sounded like the flu.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful. If we get to get a hotshub here in
Speaker 1: the studio and put a diving board in, that'd be interesting.
Speaker 1: Cannonballs off the diving board into the hot tub.
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Speaker 2: They're in the bubble. Preview the game tonight.
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Speaker 9: And that's live from Longnecks and Wilder. It's six oh
Speaker 9: five here on seven hundred WLW and that's Rocky and
Speaker 9: Lance correct. And then the third that bar who we
Speaker 9: most got.
Speaker 2: To be at a bar somewhere today.
Speaker 1: He's in a bar every day, every one of his
Speaker 1: shows is in a bar.
Speaker 2: That adds up.
Speaker 9: Thursday night, NFL rams up against the forty nine ers
Speaker 9: at seven thirty Fox Sports thirteen sixty. He must have
Speaker 9: a tag. He's got a tab everywhere.
Speaker 2: Tad.
Speaker 9: That's his middle name, you know, mo Tabagger Haven Tad.
Speaker 9: I thought only a few people knew that.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 9: College football, high school football First Moler Star quarterback Matt
Speaker 9: Ponatowski has been named the Ohio Division One State Offensive
Speaker 9: Player of the Year. Colorado Star two way player Travis
Speaker 9: Hunter is the Associated Press College Football Player of the Year,
Speaker 9: and I would say he's probably a darn good favorite
Speaker 9: to win the Heisman Trophy Saturday night.
Speaker 1: Could be a number one pick in the draft, could
Speaker 1: be the number one overall. Sig to who well at
Speaker 1: this point, I mean Carolina, Jacksonville, Carroll pick some drag.
Speaker 9: Crosstown Shootout up date brought to you by Orthos Cincinnati
Speaker 9: Orthopedics and Sports Medicine, the Orthopedic Authority of course, The
Speaker 9: Skyline Charlie Crosstown Shootout coming up on Saturday, fifth third
Speaker 9: Arena of the site. Xavier and UC preview the game
Speaker 9: tonight Wes Miller Show.
Speaker 1: Now, would it be nice if that game was on
Speaker 1: local over the year television?
Speaker 2: Bengo, you don't have to pay ESPN.
Speaker 1: Who guy knows ESPN has got more money than it needs, right, Well,
Speaker 1: of course it's bankrupt, But I mean, wouldn't it be
Speaker 1: nice if it was offered or they would allow one
Speaker 1: of the local affiliates to televise it?
Speaker 2: So damn big? Why is it on local.
Speaker 9: Kind of like the like the Thursday night Football if
Speaker 9: it goes on channel five or twelve or nine, or
Speaker 9: like Monday Night Football it goes on Channel nine.
Speaker 1: I mean, but to the average guy walking around on
Speaker 1: the street like me, yeah, you know, you're on a
Speaker 1: fixed income, you got to PLoP down whatever it is
Speaker 1: for another another streaming service. To to watch all the NFL
Speaker 1: games this year, you have to have like four different
Speaker 1: streaming services. Now, let me get an other streaming service.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, I'll go, I'll just
Speaker 1: call you from bankruptcy court. Why isn't it on local television?
Speaker 1: I don't know, ken Brew, Probably because I can listen
Speaker 1: to it, I know the broadcast teams and all that.
Speaker 1: But you know, you would think one of the smart
Speaker 1: guys their at Xavier UC would have said.
Speaker 2: Maybe we can get this on local television somehow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that might be good. All right, I'm done, I'm comecom The.
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Speaker 9: In brought to you by Tom Gregory at eight oh
Speaker 9: five right here on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Now there's a guy that could get it done, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. How about Bill Belichick seventy two years old?
Speaker 1: How about that twenty four year old girlfriend? And now
Speaker 1: he's going to be the head coach at a at
Speaker 1: a university of college that hasn't won the ACC titles
Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty.
Speaker 9: Good luck to him.
Speaker 1: Well he will need it North Carolina. But I you know,
Speaker 1: can you imagine can you imagine Bill Belichick going into
Speaker 1: the living room of a recruit trying to recruit the
Speaker 1: and he walks into the living room and there's the
Speaker 1: recruit and the recruits.
Speaker 9: Sister walks by. He goes, hey, hey, what do you
Speaker 9: what are you? What are you doing after that? What
Speaker 9: are you doing after this? Well, the thing of it is,
Speaker 9: too is like I hope he hopefully he's a little
Speaker 9: bit more effortvescent and uh, you know recruiting these kids.
Speaker 9: You know, he's kind of boring to listen to. When
Speaker 9: he has the question, it's like, we're on to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Play with me to play for me. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna give you some money,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to give you some TV time. So
Speaker 1: just sign you don't want to sign, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'll go to the next house.
Speaker 9: Yes, I guess he's probably done with the well, you know,
Speaker 9: he's probably done with the pros. I guess for now,
Speaker 9: but that could be. Uh, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 9: Recruitment d says ken Brew, as you know is spelled
Speaker 9: N I L.
Speaker 2: I mean when what I mean?
Speaker 9: How many local coaches around here walk into a recruits home.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm just saying, you know, given my experience and
Speaker 1: given where I've come from, I'm not against anyone reinventing themselves, right,
Speaker 1: but this is going to be interesting to see if
Speaker 1: a seventy two year old guy that hasn't coached college
Speaker 1: football is going to be able to come in there
Speaker 1: and on his name alone, get a bunch of kids
Speaker 1: to come play for him. They where he couldn't get
Speaker 1: away from him quick enough.
Speaker 9: Right, you think he'll he'll wear those cutoff sleeves and
Speaker 9: like the North Carolina Blue.
Speaker 1: Oh, he'll be in a hoodie down sideline Chapel Hill hell,
Speaker 1: but Chapel Hill Hood.
Speaker 9: He's sporting that in November next year. I wonder what
Speaker 9: Marty thinks about this. He's he's across the pond in
Speaker 9: Paris now.
Speaker 1: He may be one of the guys that's giving them
Speaker 1: an al money there.
Speaker 2: I ain't got a point. You need to get out,
Speaker 2: you need to get to the bottom of all of
Speaker 2: this thing. I don't know.
Speaker 9: I think Rocky, Rocky knows probably more about it than anybody.
Speaker 1: Well, why did why didn't you know? Why North Carolina?
Speaker 1: Why did he go to North Carol?
Speaker 3: Don't know?
Speaker 9: That's a good question. Why you're talking about coming out.
Speaker 2: Of the blue.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying I don't know, and then saying
Speaker 1: I'm not going to coach, and so he signed a
Speaker 1: five year deal, which means, you know, seventy seven. They're
Speaker 1: not hiring a lot of seventy seven year old coaches
Speaker 1: in the.
Speaker 2: Film, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: But in all truth, you know, he had a chance
Speaker 1: to go to the NFL last year, and apparently these
Speaker 1: teams didn't want to get involved with them, like Atlanta,
Speaker 1: right exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying no, I'm just saying, so I know.
Speaker 9: It'll be interesting to see ken Brew how it all
Speaker 9: shapes out in North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Well said, get us out of the Stooge Report. Rocky
Speaker 1: is going to be in here, and I've got some
Speaker 1: questions for Rocky about all this stuff that's going on
Speaker 1: in the world and why people are consumed with trying
Speaker 1: to get ornaments and sweatshirts and hoodies of this alleged
Speaker 1: assassin that is fighting extradition in New York. What does
Speaker 1: that say about us as a society that we want
Speaker 1: to celebrate that crap.
Speaker 9: Ken Brew and honor of a cold day here in
Speaker 9: the Tri State. But I think warmer temperatures are on
Speaker 9: the way. According to Jennifer Ketch Mark, Let's hope we
Speaker 9: leave you with the immortal words of the Stewed Report.
Speaker 1: We're sorry about your carpet breaking down today, but we've
Speaker 1: got to go. We're pressed for time. But wait, Honestly,
Speaker 1: it was good to see you again. Thanks for coming in.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, seeing you is about as pleasant as being with
Speaker 9: Will every day.
Speaker 2: I gotta go.
Speaker 9: My carpet is fixed and I'm headed for the fast
Speaker 9: lane in ten minutes. It's the Wizard's weekly group Therapy
Speaker 9: with his harem.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, stop doing that.
Speaker 9: If you see those veils of swaying, Wow, wow, l.
Speaker 3: It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Sorry. I don't think on any other television.
Speaker 9: That was better than Karnak and Johnny Carson.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, it looked like it was one giant get
Speaker 1: hide party.
Speaker 2: Writing on that program was stellar. It was unbelievable. Andy
Speaker 2: Mac It's unbelievable. Whatever happened to him?
Speaker 9: Andy Max's coming in tomorrow to preview the shootouts.
Speaker 2: I mean the guy that wrote that.
Speaker 9: Oh, I thought you were Oh you know, I heard
Speaker 9: he has a bunch of ties. He does have a
Speaker 9: bunch of He already has a bunch of ties. Yeah,
Speaker 9: he wants to. He's got a few ties he'd like those.
Speaker 9: Uh you know he oughta starters store. Yeah, right, ties
Speaker 9: to all the room things, my tie store.
Speaker 2: SAG. I gotta go.
Speaker 1: We'll see yes, stay well until we meet again on
Speaker 1: seven hundred w welw. We are not about to enter
Speaker 1: the epicenter, the epi structure of the broadcast day. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm merely a bridge to the greatness that beholds us
Speaker 1: here in just a few minutes. I'm a firm believer
Speaker 1: in what Dirty Harry said all those years ago.
Speaker 6: Man's got to know its limits.
Speaker 1: And I do because I understand what lies ahead. And
Speaker 1: what lies ahead is the enormously talented team of Eddy
Speaker 1: Fingers and the now seemingly mythical rocket j Boyman Rocky.
Speaker 2: How are you in this glorious day? Good ken?
Speaker 11: If you're a bridge, you're at that bridge that cut
Speaker 11: on fire, are you?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, No, No, I'm not that kind of bridge. No,
Speaker 1: it's not quite that. That bridge right now would be
Speaker 1: more stable than any bridge I would be in his
Speaker 1: present condition. Amen, Yeah, I I I dealt with this
Speaker 1: earlier in the show The Bengals, Right, Okay, So there
Speaker 1: are all of these people out there chirping, all of
Speaker 1: these alleged Bengal experts and everything.
Speaker 2: Now signed T. Higgins, You've got the money. Signed T.
Speaker 1: Higgins, you got the money. I did a little research
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. The salary cap is going to be
Speaker 1: somewhere around two sixty five to seventy five million, probably
Speaker 1: do let's pick two seventy which is right in the middle.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: The Bengals cap space for next year right now is
Speaker 1: sixty million dollars. That's with forty two players under contract.
Speaker 1: I know that may go up because they may get
Speaker 1: rid of some of the guys they have now and
Speaker 1: Alders in that. But if you're going to sign Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase and it's probably going to cost you somewhere in
Speaker 1: the vicinity of thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven million
Speaker 1: dollars a year, uh, that doesn't leave you a lot
Speaker 1: of money to get better at about five different positions
Speaker 1: I can think of that they have to get really
Speaker 1: better at in order to have a chance to contend
Speaker 1: for a championship next year.
Speaker 2: So can Burrow restructure is track? Sure?
Speaker 1: Understand all that. I know you can play games with numbers,
Speaker 1: but they never have overspent on one position. This is
Speaker 1: one position. And t Higgins, who the hell does what
Speaker 1: he wants? He might want wide receiver money, wide receiver
Speaker 1: number one money, and he's gonna find it. It's out there. Well,
Speaker 1: so I don't like, what's the realistic of possibilities of
Speaker 1: T Higgins being here next year?
Speaker 11: I agree with you, Ken, I go through it and
Speaker 11: you hear the interview of Burrow and you get excited.
Speaker 11: Maybe he knows something that we don't they're going to restructure,
Speaker 11: but you start really putting the numbers to it. And
Speaker 11: to your point, if T Higgins is gonna or shoot me,
Speaker 11: if Jamar Chase is going to demand thirty eight to
Speaker 11: forty a year, T. Higgins is likely going to command
Speaker 11: thirty two to thirty five. You mean to tell me
Speaker 11: we're going to spend seventy two to seventy five million
Speaker 11: dollars on two players at one position. That's that's a huge,
Speaker 11: huge number to have tied up in one position.
Speaker 1: Right and with regards to the other positions they have
Speaker 1: to address. Part of the problem that they have right
Speaker 1: now is when they go into the free agent market,
Speaker 1: they never swim on day one. They always get what's
Speaker 1: left over and on day You're not going to fix
Speaker 1: everything in free agency, but you want players that will
Speaker 1: be impactful right away, and they never seem to get
Speaker 1: those kinds of players in free agency that are difference makers.
Speaker 1: So I'm all for it, let's talk about it. But
Speaker 1: when you get right down to raw numbers, I just
Speaker 1: don't think the math works well.
Speaker 11: And it would it might work ken if this in
Speaker 11: my opinion, I don't know where you stand on but
Speaker 11: if this Bengals defense was short one player or one
Speaker 11: kind of position group.
Speaker 2: Okay, but but.
Speaker 11: There's I mean, to me, you got to get another
Speaker 11: pass rusher opposite Trey Henderson. I mean, an elite guy,
Speaker 11: not like a you know, a decent guy, an elite guy.
Speaker 2: The secondary is kind of a mess.
Speaker 11: The linebacking corps is starting to age out a little bit.
Speaker 11: So to me, there's just too many places that you
Speaker 11: need good players, which costs money. So I just you know,
Speaker 11: and now, look, if the trade off is a they
Speaker 11: don't sign T Higgins but they uncharacteristically go active on
Speaker 11: that first early round of free agency, I mean, that'd
Speaker 11: be fantastic. That'd be great. I don't know if I
Speaker 11: see it happening. I feel like what we're gonna get
Speaker 11: is no T Higgins and then a couple you know,
Speaker 11: second not not second tier, but beyond those those splash
Speaker 11: first day free agent picks. I feel like that's what
Speaker 11: we're gonna get, and that's what history would tell us,
Speaker 11: you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, and they got issues at guard they got
Speaker 1: to address. I'm not making a comparison. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that Burrow is this. So please don't anybody think I'm
Speaker 1: saying this, but Tom Brady made a lot of pedestrian
Speaker 1: wide receivers look like stars. I think Burrow has the
Speaker 1: same capability in him. You give him Jamar Chase, and
Speaker 1: I think he can make anybody after that look really,
Speaker 1: really good. You have a generational talent there. But my
Speaker 1: fear is is that they may, you know, they make
Speaker 1: it consumed with the moment, and that they start trying
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to keep Higgins and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden back into where you are right now,
Speaker 1: where you got to score thirty points a game and
Speaker 1: you still might not win.
Speaker 11: You know, to me, the biggest thing that needs to
Speaker 11: happen with this team that I don't feel a lot
Speaker 11: of people are talking about is, to me, the importance
Speaker 11: is Jermaine Burton somehow someway in these last four games
Speaker 11: or whatever, showing he can be the number two wide receiver.
Speaker 11: If he does, if he can, that solves a lot
Speaker 11: of problems. Now you can say, Okay, now we can
Speaker 11: feel comfortable with t going and maybe spend a lot
Speaker 11: of the money and the free agency on the defense.
Speaker 2: But we've not seen that happen.
Speaker 11: We've not seen Jermaine Burton come up if it's actually
Speaker 11: been the opposite, So maybe that'll happen in this last month.
Speaker 2: That would be a good thing.
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to do is cut into
Speaker 1: any more of your time. This is literally where the
Speaker 1: broadcast day at w WELW or gasmically Expo explode with content,
Speaker 1: humor and entertainment, unlike anywhere else you can get interrescual radio. Rocky,
Speaker 1: you and Eddie have a great show, and thanks again
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 11: We'll try to live up to that intro ken thank
Speaker 11: you on seven hundred WLW