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Speaker 3: Hian, Welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation. I'm
Speaker 3: your host, Deplorable Janet, and today miss Heidi is back
Speaker 3: and we have a banger of a show for you
Speaker 3: and something that ooh.
Speaker 2: A large large.
Speaker 3: Portion of the population is on m suspect statins, So
Speaker 3: welcome back, Miss Heidi.
Speaker 1: How are you good? Good? I'm happy always to be
Speaker 1: back with my wonderful friend Giana. She's here with me
Speaker 1: and she's usually fabolous. So thank you for.
Speaker 3: Having Publius when we altogether always always darling. So ladies
Speaker 3: and gents. Before we get into the lovely studies and
Speaker 3: stuff about Staaten's, I just want to tell you this.
Speaker 2: Statins were pushed on the population.
Speaker 3: Anybody that had high triglycerides, high cholesterol, uh, diabetes, heart disease,
Speaker 3: anything and everything, even pre diabetes. They were cramming everybody
Speaker 3: on statin drugs. Because way back in nineteen forty eight,
Speaker 3: President Wilson commissioned a study on cholesterol and linking it
Speaker 3: to heart disease. And so it took a couple of
Speaker 3: years for them to do this study. But in the
Speaker 3: meantime he had a stroke. How convenient. So Truman took over,
Speaker 3: and Truman was very to be nice and apt unprepared
Speaker 3: for the stuff because at the same time they were
Speaker 3: also working on trying to do universal healthcare and whatever,
Speaker 3: and they put a lot of money, government money, government
Speaker 3: funding behind this study. So nineteen fifty the actual study
Speaker 3: came out. It was by a man named Sole Keys.
Speaker 3: Anybody that listened to My cholesterol episode, you've already heard this,
Speaker 3: but for those have not, this is a little brief
Speaker 3: background history that's important. So this study was trying to
Speaker 3: link cholesterol to heart disease, However, the study was very
Speaker 3: flawed from the get go because they only used twenty
Speaker 3: two countries, they did not include all the countries, and
Speaker 3: then for the study results, they left out all the
Speaker 3: countries with a high fat diet and zero heart disease.
Speaker 2: You would think that would be.
Speaker 3: A very big necessary piece of the study if you're
Speaker 3: trying to link the two together, right. They also left
Speaker 3: out all the countries with low fat diets or hardly
Speaker 3: any fat diets but very high risk of heart disease
Speaker 3: or very high in satvidence of heart disease. So very
Speaker 3: flawed study. But because they were in the middle of
Speaker 3: this universal healthcare push and the government had put so
Speaker 3: much money into funding this study, they left it. So
Speaker 3: it was kind of like the study was married to
Speaker 3: big farmer for eternity, right. And so since then, since
Speaker 3: all the way back in nineteen fifty, there have been
Speaker 3: very very few studies done that are not funded by
Speaker 3: government like the NIH or big pharma or universities who
Speaker 3: are getting government grants and funding or pharma grants and funding.
Speaker 3: So very little research has been done, or if it
Speaker 3: was done, it wasn't brought to the table. Less than
Speaker 3: five percent of the studies that have been done independently
Speaker 3: are without any kind of government or pharmacy funding behind them,
Speaker 3: but they do not gain traction because why not. They're small,
Speaker 3: and so they're only published in small independent journals and
Speaker 3: things like that. But a lot of the research, the
Speaker 3: very good research that is not flawed, is in this
Speaker 3: five percent of the studies. So and that's where we
Speaker 3: start at.
Speaker 1: People also need to know that, like cholesterol has been demonized, however,
Speaker 1: we need it. We have to have it. It's important.
Speaker 1: It's completely important for fat soluble vitamins, for hormones. We're
Speaker 1: seeing all these problems with all of this, and yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: it repairs your tissue, all kinds of things. Actually have
Speaker 1: to have cholesterol to make your body work, and these
Speaker 1: carriers of these fat soluble vitamins. It can't be you're
Speaker 1: just blood because then you're mixing oil and water. Literally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's important because fat soluble, fat soluble vitamins
Speaker 3: are A, D, E and K, so.
Speaker 2: You need vitamin D.
Speaker 3: Very important thing for cell growth, repair, brain function.
Speaker 2: The whole nine yards.
Speaker 3: You have to have cholesterol because cholesterol is a neuro protectant.
Speaker 3: It protects your brain, It protects the mielin sheaths that
Speaker 3: are around your nerves and your brain that carry the signals
Speaker 3: and all of that stuff. You have to have cholesterol
Speaker 3: because it helps dissolve bile acids, so the biole in
Speaker 3: your gall ladder that breaks down, that's used to break
Speaker 3: down foods and stuff. Without cholesterol, you can't do that,
Speaker 3: So you have gas problems, You have all kinds of
Speaker 3: issues when you don't have enough cholesterol and you're not And.
Speaker 1: Speaking of vitamin D, let alone hormones, we won't even
Speaker 1: I don't even have the percentages on that. Forty two
Speaker 1: percent of us are low on vitamin D. Now someone
Speaker 1: is hereditary. I do have hereditary issues with my vitamin D,
Speaker 1: and no matter how much they give me, it's always
Speaker 1: the same, even if I am outside, cause it doesn't
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. And some of us are just that way.
Speaker 1: But the second part is is I think they've cut
Speaker 1: so much fats out of diet that now they're changing
Speaker 1: there slowly. I remember, like when I was young, my
Speaker 1: grandpa had high triglycerides, so he couldn't have butter, and
Speaker 1: he loved butter. He couldn't have salt, he couldn't have
Speaker 1: all these things, and he was pretty bad about doing
Speaker 1: it in general, but he changed everything and it didn't
Speaker 1: change anything.
Speaker 3: And that's what I was just gonna say. Because in
Speaker 3: your body, your body actually produces eighty percent of the
Speaker 3: cholesterol in your system. Twenty percent comes from the foods
Speaker 3: that you eat. And what they'll tell you is that
Speaker 3: your triglycerides are uber dangerous and that that's what is
Speaker 3: highly concerning. But here is a little kicker for you guys,
Speaker 3: right because you know they don't like to tell the
Speaker 3: truth about things. So triglycerides is actually what is needed
Speaker 3: for the transportation of fats, lipids, and soluble vitamins and
Speaker 3: nutrients in your system to be able to spread around
Speaker 3: your body. So without your triglycerides able to carry your
Speaker 3: vitamins and stuff, you're not going to transport any of
Speaker 3: the nutrients from your food. They're not going to be processed.
Speaker 3: They're just going to float around in your blood get
Speaker 3: excreted out of your system. It's not going to go anywhere. Plus,
Speaker 3: triglycerides are important for any energy storage in your cells.
Speaker 3: So when you eat food or your body is trying
Speaker 3: to store things that you have already eaten or the
Speaker 3: cholesterol that it's already made. You have to have triglycerides
Speaker 3: for that storage of the energy and also for energy supply,
Speaker 3: and so triglycerides are really important for the hormones in
Speaker 3: your body to stimulate those trigolycerides and be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: the system is running low on cholesterol right now, and
Speaker 3: so you need to release some so the cells have
Speaker 3: energy and so the body can function properly. So without
Speaker 3: the tree glycerides, your body's not releasing that energy that
Speaker 3: the cells need and for us to have normal functioning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and funny enough you mentioned this. Okay, they left
Speaker 1: these other countries out, but this is today, not back then.
Speaker 1: This is today. So I just wanted to do a
Speaker 1: little research because I thought, you know, when I was
Speaker 1: in France, all these people eat like shit. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: They run around the streets with I thought this was
Speaker 1: a joke, Janet, it is not a joke. They run
Speaker 1: around with a full bag at this big right, and
Speaker 1: they run around eating this in the streets, and then
Speaker 1: they eat tons of butter and they eat all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And I thought, oh, they so skinny, you know, like,
Speaker 1: what is going on with this? So I thought I
Speaker 1: want to know exactly what's going on overseas, you know,
Speaker 1: in Europe especially, so I looked at up and even
Speaker 1: though France has a higher yes, they have way higher
Speaker 1: cholesterol levels, okay, and they do in Europe than we do. However,
Speaker 1: we have more deaths and cardiac events than they do.
Speaker 1: They only have one in five specifically in France for
Speaker 1: cardiac and we have one in three, even though we
Speaker 1: have some of the lowest levels around. So the highest
Speaker 1: one was Austria if people want to know.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's funny because okay, the what the
Speaker 3: tregglissertes it does one more thing. It's an insulator and
Speaker 3: a protector. Right, So the incidents of people who get
Speaker 3: dementia and Alzheimer's has absolutely skyrocketed during my lifetime as
Speaker 3: a nurse. And why is that Because the original cholesterol
Speaker 3: numbers when they very first were established way way, way,
Speaker 3: way way back, and this has been ober long time ago.
Speaker 3: The original number for normal was three hundred, so three
Speaker 3: hundred to five hundred range was considered a normal thing.
Speaker 3: It wasn't until over thirty years later that they lowered
Speaker 3: it to two hundred. Then they lowered it to one
Speaker 3: fifty now they want your cholesterol.
Speaker 2: To be one hundred or lower.
Speaker 3: And why is that because it destabilizes the brain, because
Speaker 3: you're not allowing the body to function the way that
Speaker 3: it was made. So lower cholesterol, we're going to take
Speaker 3: all these drugs and do all these things and cut
Speaker 3: out all the things that you should be eating. Right,
Speaker 3: And then they'll go, oh, man, you know what, ear
Speaker 3: tree glycerides are still really high. We think you should
Speaker 3: take medication.
Speaker 1: Mm hm, you know what, which there isn't even yeah,
Speaker 1: you you can't prove there's disease there. This is supposed
Speaker 1: to be done for disease. To basically, this only works.
Speaker 1: Statins will work if if there's a narrow therapeutic window,
Speaker 1: but they're trucking them at everybody, k right. The only
Speaker 1: time I would say yes, you need to be on
Speaker 1: a statin is if you've already had a cardiac event, okay,
Speaker 1: because there is studies that show after you've had and
Speaker 1: survived a heart attack, like a pretty major cardiac event,
Speaker 1: then it does help, but not for the reasons you
Speaker 1: might think. It's because it helps declot your blood and
Speaker 1: so it's basically the same as an aspirin, and they're
Speaker 1: not going to tell you to take that anymore either,
Speaker 1: because now we don't we don't give drugs anymore now,
Speaker 1: even though they're off label for that, right, like aspirin's
Speaker 1: not for that, So now they're getting weird about that.
Speaker 1: Then on top of it, the only other great reason
Speaker 1: is and this is the stats, and this is from
Speaker 1: doctor and he was actually recently on Joe Rogan Oslim
Speaker 1: Malhorta who works for NHS. Well he did, and they
Speaker 1: all get paid the same. They're not allowed over in
Speaker 1: England to take any money from anybody else. Like it's
Speaker 1: all just across the board. He got fired because he
Speaker 1: came out on Joe Rogan and he started talking about
Speaker 1: this and he had the studies to prove it. He
Speaker 1: didn't just yap his mouth.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, right.
Speaker 1: He almost lost everything over this. And this guy did
Speaker 1: a lot of research. He said, one in ten people
Speaker 1: will have a good outcome for taking statins because not
Speaker 1: because they they just work for everybody. It's because hereditary
Speaker 1: people that have hereditary cholesterol issues do react well to it,
Speaker 1: and we never know who they are. Right.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm so glad you said that because on the
Speaker 3: Cholesterol Show that I did and I found this to
Speaker 3: be super duper interesting. We have in our liver, okay,
Speaker 3: we have apple B one hundred cells and those are
Speaker 3: beta cells. That what they do they help to help
Speaker 3: the liver to identify the size of the cholesterol particles.
Speaker 3: So we have HDL, we have LDL, we have VLDL,
Speaker 3: and whatever the other one is a l VDL or
Speaker 3: something like that. But it helps the liver to recognize
Speaker 3: what size the particle is. It allows it or doesn't
Speaker 3: allow it to enter into the liver to be broken
Speaker 3: down by your tregozarides hello to be used in other places.
Speaker 3: And this is what is very interesting. And I never
Speaker 3: ever in all of my years as a nurse ever
Speaker 3: seen them run this. They will always tell people, oh,
Speaker 3: you probably have hereditary cholesterol. They have, However, they've never
Speaker 3: ever ran a check on somebody. The only way that
Speaker 3: you can tell if someone has a hereditary issue breaking
Speaker 3: down the cholesterole its because of this apple B one
Speaker 3: hundred cell is if you do a hereditary ApoB test.
Speaker 2: That is it. That is the only way that you
Speaker 2: can tell.
Speaker 3: There is no other way to tell if somebody has
Speaker 3: hereditary problems.
Speaker 2: And this is it.
Speaker 1: And I bet they don't cover it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, this is genetic testing, and genetic testing is
Speaker 3: not covered by insurance and it is uber uber expensive.
Speaker 3: And so when the doctor's office is telling knew that
Speaker 3: you are hereditary cholesterol issue, they're lying to you, right, they're.
Speaker 1: Lying, Yeah, they don't. They don't know in general, and
Speaker 1: I through my research the thing that I think people
Speaker 1: should really know and maybe if we if there's more
Speaker 1: people that push for this, maybe they will start to
Speaker 1: pay for this. The other thing they can do, which
Speaker 1: doesn't prove heredity or not, it does prove disease, actual disease,
Speaker 1: because they're also lying to you if they say you
Speaker 1: have atherolos carosis if they haven't been inside of you,
Speaker 1: because the only thing to show that as a cardiac CT.
Speaker 1: And they're really not that much and you can pay
Speaker 1: for it. But he did say it literally is not
Speaker 1: going to be covered. It's going to be a couple
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. And he said, this way you can see
Speaker 1: if there's disease because somebody like my husband. Now, the
Speaker 1: only caveat for my poor husband if he hears this
Speaker 1: is I semi feel his is hereditary because he is
Speaker 1: very athletic, he's extremely you know, thin like body weight
Speaker 1: versus muscle, like everything's in check, you know, not thin,
Speaker 1: but he's muscular, like there's no body fat. And he
Speaker 1: does all of the things like he works out constantly,
Speaker 1: he eats well, blah blah blah blah blah, and so
Speaker 1: his is through the roof. I am this like thick
Speaker 1: girl that looks like he should have my labs and
Speaker 1: I should have his. They called me and said, what
Speaker 1: your Your cholesterol is high? And I said, oh it
Speaker 1: is and they said, yeah, you're you're a good one.
Speaker 1: How'd you get it that high? And I thought, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know why that happened, but that's
Speaker 1: what it is. You know. They were literally curious. They
Speaker 1: they made a phone call for it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have a zero idea. They're like, but your husband's
Speaker 1: is you know, it's not good having call us back.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is weird because why would
Speaker 1: why we eat almost the same thing, you know, but
Speaker 1: here we are. And so his triglysteroids are high. He
Speaker 1: a really good doctor, and his doctor knows that his
Speaker 1: blood pressure used to be high since he has lived
Speaker 1: with me. His breath may be bad because they put
Speaker 1: garlic in everything. But his blood pressure is but his
Speaker 1: his blood pressure has gone down, so he's he's within
Speaker 1: parameters even though his his stuff is high. The doctor
Speaker 1: has never put him on anything.
Speaker 3: And that's a good doctor because that doctor has done
Speaker 3: his research and he knows that these numbers are important.
Speaker 3: So when they're you know, with they're all your pre diabetic. Ah,
Speaker 3: your cholesterol is is it's not high yet, but it
Speaker 3: looks like it's going to get high. Let's put you
Speaker 3: on medication. Uh No, don't do that, huge, huge, terrible idea.
Speaker 1: So and the diabetes, honestly, like they went back and
Speaker 1: forth with these studies genets talking about and they did
Speaker 1: this on purpose and obfuscated it so that they could
Speaker 1: get rid of the fats and keep the sugar. But
Speaker 1: guess what's the biggest problem. Guess what's a bigger problem
Speaker 1: The sugar, y'all.
Speaker 3: So here's here's another thing that lends itself to a
Speaker 3: problem with cholesterol, because cholesterol, like I said, needs the
Speaker 3: hormones and all of those things to be able to
Speaker 3: release it and move it through the system and all
Speaker 3: of that. So what they're always concerned about is LDL
Speaker 3: and their LDL number is the one that they always say, Oh,
Speaker 3: if that's high, that's an NK, or you're.
Speaker 2: Going to have heart disease.
Speaker 3: That's a fake falsity. As well, a lot of the
Speaker 3: research that they're doing independently shows that that literally shows
Speaker 3: inflammation in your body, which makes one hundred thousand percent sense,
Speaker 3: not an indicator for heart disease whatsoever, because on you know,
Speaker 3: all of their infinite wisdom when they're like, oh, let's
Speaker 3: cut out all the fats. Don't eat butter, don't you know,
Speaker 3: don't do that. Don't eat meat, Eat a ton of
Speaker 3: vegetables and a ton of fruit which are full of sugars, sugar,
Speaker 3: full of fibers, all those things what are destroyers of
Speaker 3: your gut. So a B twelve deficiency can increase your
Speaker 3: LDL numbers. B twelve is manufactured in your gut and
Speaker 3: it comes from the highest best source is actually red meat.
Speaker 3: So they told everybody cut out red meat because that's
Speaker 3: going to bring your cholesterol down. If you cut out
Speaker 3: red meat, you're not going to see your cholesterol drop.
Speaker 2: Not one iota.
Speaker 3: You're not going to see your tricles REID numbers come down.
Speaker 3: Exercise is not going to make that big of a difference.
Speaker 3: It's not going to do anything for you.
Speaker 1: Husband's like a chronic exerciser. I will literally say, and
Speaker 1: it never changed anything. You know. What did was changing his.
Speaker 2: Food what we yes, yes, yep.
Speaker 3: And so if you have a B twelve deficiency because
Speaker 3: you're not eating red meat and you're only eating vegetables
Speaker 3: and stuff, you're going to be nutrient deficient in the
Speaker 3: B twelve area. So it affects your nervous system.
Speaker 2: You're going to have a whole hell of a lot
Speaker 2: of headaches.
Speaker 3: You can have muscleticks, tremors, all of those kind of things,
Speaker 3: uh here, ringing in the ears, all kinds of weird
Speaker 3: anything neurological. You might have twitches in your eyelids, things
Speaker 3: like that. It doesn't protect the milin sheets which go
Speaker 3: over your neurons anymore, and so you may have trouble
Speaker 3: with uh, memory impairment, confusion, trouble.
Speaker 1: This is what causes MS.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not going to have maturation of your red
Speaker 3: blood cell, so you may become mober highly an inm
Speaker 3: in and you're so tired all the time you can't function,
Speaker 3: or you have sores that won't heal because your red
Speaker 3: blood cells are not producing and also it doesn't allow
Speaker 3: you to produce bone marrow, and bone marrow is where
Speaker 3: your white cells are made, and so your immunity is
Speaker 3: going to.
Speaker 2: Go down because you don't have enough B twelve.
Speaker 1: Well, and in Europe, I find it interesting when I
Speaker 1: brought up the different stuff there. Of course they're bread
Speaker 1: doesn't cause them the issues Our bread does, right, because
Speaker 1: it's real bread. Yeah, it's not like we don't.
Speaker 2: Have the shed in ours. I mean they don't have
Speaker 2: the shed in theirs.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, their meat, I mean they
Speaker 1: can tell us our meat's the same all day long.
Speaker 1: But something has changed, Something has changed.
Speaker 3: It's not so like Heidi said, things that are going
Speaker 3: to cause higher cholesterol levels. Okay, sugar is definitely one,
Speaker 3: so diabetes, thyroid issues, which all those things can be
Speaker 3: linked to other things as well, Kidney problems, hemochromatosis, which
Speaker 3: is where your body absorbs too much iron from the
Speaker 3: bloodstream and it stores it in like your joints and
Speaker 3: your organs and all of that stuff causes all kinds
Speaker 3: of problems. But two besides the vitamin B twelve deficiency
Speaker 3: and inflammation that comes from sugar and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Two of the biggest things that they cram down patient's
Speaker 3: throats literally all the time. Number one is beta blockers,
Speaker 3: and that's for blood pressure issues. So you're going to
Speaker 3: go into the office and then they're gonna go, oh,
Speaker 3: my god, Heidi, your numbers are so high, we need
Speaker 3: to put you on a beta blocker. That's one of
Speaker 3: the first things that they're going to do, especially if
Speaker 3: your bottom number is high, they're going to put you
Speaker 3: on a beta blocker. And guess what a beta blocker is.
Speaker 3: It blocks any kind of beta cells in your body.
Speaker 3: What I just say, produce the appob one hundred in
Speaker 3: your liver. It's a beta cell. So it affects your liver,
Speaker 3: which can cause you to have diabetes issues because of that,
Speaker 3: because it's destroying your beta cells. Yeh, beta cells in
Speaker 3: your lungs. Yep, beta cells in your heart. You have
Speaker 3: beta cells in your brain. And the other one is
Speaker 3: steroid use. So you have a bronchitis, or you have
Speaker 3: a respiratory issue, or you have a rash or something,
Speaker 3: what do they do automatically?
Speaker 2: Here's some steroids. Oh, you hurt your back ear steroids
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 3: So those things cause your cholesterol levels to skybrocket in
Speaker 3: a lot of cases.
Speaker 1: So yep. And even if you are the person that
Speaker 1: does and this is a study, like I said, by
Speaker 1: this doctor and he's done multiple and it's been peer
Speaker 1: reviewed as well. A slim Malhorta m A L h
Speaker 1: oot r A. He the reason why they came after
Speaker 1: him so bad is he did these independent studies and
Speaker 1: at the end of it, he found out even if
Speaker 1: that you're that one in ten guy, you did everything
Speaker 1: perfect and you take it every day just like you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Because of the fact that when they're
Speaker 1: doing their studies a they kick out anybody with side
Speaker 1: effects right away. And he they don't use the real
Speaker 1: like numbers. They don't use they use relative risk versus
Speaker 1: actual risk. So he said, even if you do everything
Speaker 1: you're supposed to, guess how long, how much longer you're
Speaker 1: going to live if you take those statins just like
Speaker 1: you're supposed to via data. Take a guess.
Speaker 2: It's pretty one day you're close one extra day for
Speaker 2: four days.
Speaker 3: Now that is absolutely worth taking a drugs for a lifetime.
Speaker 3: That's going to extend your life. If you're lucky for
Speaker 3: four days.
Speaker 1: That is the the relative is four days. He even
Speaker 1: gave the or that's the actual, but the relative was
Speaker 1: seven months. He even gave that number. And that's still
Speaker 1: not great. Like for the side effects from these medications
Speaker 1: are pretty severe for some, you know.
Speaker 3: One hundred thousand percent and I I am in that group.
Speaker 3: I was damaged by stats and we will get into
Speaker 3: that and how I change that. But this is a
Speaker 3: problem for most because if you if you want to
Speaker 3: increase your HDL, which is supposedly your your good cholesterol,
Speaker 3: that's not what it means. It means that it's high density,
Speaker 3: which means it's the largest cholesterol particle. That you have, eggs, cheese, butter,
Speaker 3: full fat, dairy, and red meat. You have to have
Speaker 3: those in your diet if you are looking to increase
Speaker 3: your ALDL or you want your ALDL for whatever reason
Speaker 3: to be out of whack and me crazy so that
Speaker 3: the doctor can go, guess what, We're going to have
Speaker 3: to put you on medication because you are probably going
Speaker 3: to have heart disease at some point in time. Continue
Speaker 3: drinking alcohol right in, eating sugars, smoking, don't eat meat,
Speaker 3: and only eat vegetables and fruit, yep.
Speaker 1: And also if you want to crease your good, you're
Speaker 1: good cholesterol, they do say to have unsaturated fats. I
Speaker 1: argue with that one, but whatever, you guys can listen
Speaker 1: to us and then go from there. Fiber, exercise, more
Speaker 1: weight loss, decrease alcohol like she's saying, limit your processed foods.
Speaker 1: Same thing for to increase the good versus increasing the bad.
Speaker 1: So it's a win win. Also fiber and I do
Speaker 1: believe in that that that is something we do not
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom enough in America and it's crazy.
Speaker 1: And also what helps you go to the bathroom.
Speaker 3: But I'm so I am on the bendwagon of not
Speaker 3: a lot of fiber intake because a lot of our
Speaker 3: fiber is camper, like I said, And fiber increases inflammation, irritation,
Speaker 3: discomfort and gas bloating, things like that in your gut.
Speaker 1: But only because we live, only because we live where
Speaker 1: we live in other countries. I don't know that it
Speaker 1: is so bad because now let's it everywhere. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: I will say for one food for fiber that helps
Speaker 1: me a lot, and I almost crave it sometimes, which
Speaker 1: is a super food anyway, is quinoa, And it's actually
Speaker 1: a higher protein, less carbohydrate grain. Now it's still tainted
Speaker 1: because they're all I mean, our soil has been completely destroyed.
Speaker 1: If people don't know, it's it's just how it is.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And for me because I do like carnivore, but I
Speaker 3: don't do strict carnivore where it's all meat and nothing
Speaker 3: else and you can only have salt. I don't do
Speaker 3: that because that's crazy. I do have dairy, you know,
Speaker 3: I make things in butter or tallow or you know whatever.
Speaker 3: I eat cheese, real cheese by the way, not the
Speaker 3: fake shit, but all of those things I do. And
Speaker 3: every once in a while I will have like blackberries
Speaker 3: or blueberries or something like that, but I don't I
Speaker 3: don't do like rice or you know, oats or anything
Speaker 3: like that. I don't do any of that. And I
Speaker 3: don't have a problem going to the bathroom like.
Speaker 1: Right right, well, and I find that you're like, I'm fine, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean it's just the thing that people have
Speaker 1: to understand, like especially with what we talked about last time, YEP,
Speaker 1: with the weight loss drugs, it's well known to cause
Speaker 1: vowel instruction. But think about what think about what cholesterol
Speaker 1: not only does internally, but when we're talking about the
Speaker 1: bathroom here, m hm, Okay, think about what is the
Speaker 1: loob of of of food. I'm not trying to be gross,
Speaker 1: but if you guys don't have that, it's going to
Speaker 1: make things markedly more difficult. Guess let's just exactly exactly it.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I know that's a weird thing to
Speaker 1: speak about, but nurses talk about all these things. We
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing is sacred. Some of the phone calls that
Speaker 3: you know, you would get on a daily basis, or
Speaker 3: at least I would, where it's like calling to check
Speaker 3: in and tell me the amount of times, the color consistence,
Speaker 3: the et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. That's part of it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so let's see. Okay, so talking about statin
Speaker 3: drugs and this is disgusting to me, okay, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tell you why it's disgusting. So the very first
Speaker 3: one was developed in nineteen seventy and it was credited
Speaker 3: to a Japanese biochemist, a Kira Indo. Funny that it's
Speaker 3: Indo since we're talking about where we were.
Speaker 2: Do kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: So anyway, when he made the first first statin drug.
Speaker 3: He was working for Sencho Pharmaceuticals in Japan and he
Speaker 3: isolated a compound called compactin. That's kind of gross because
Speaker 3: cholesterol again goes along with your stool. But they made
Speaker 3: it from a strain of penicillin, which I find fascinating
Speaker 3: that it was made from penicillin. So it wasn't until
Speaker 3: ten years later, Okay, in nineteen eighty they removed the
Speaker 3: compact and because it was tested in humans. But later
Speaker 3: what drawn from any kind of trials on human being
Speaker 3: is because they found it to be highly toxic in
Speaker 3: animal studies. So made of penicillin, which is a common
Speaker 3: antibiotic that they give to human beings all of the time,
Speaker 3: that was found to be highly toxic in animals, so
Speaker 3: they removed it from the market. Okay, So seven years
Speaker 3: later they came out with the very first on the
Speaker 3: market drug.
Speaker 2: And this is the oldest one.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to mention the name because I don't
Speaker 3: want to get in any trouble, right but it was
Speaker 3: the first one approved by our Food and Drug Administration,
Speaker 3: developed by, of course the company the big one that
Speaker 3: starts with an M. But this is where it gets gross.
Speaker 3: This is what grosses me out. It was made for
Speaker 3: a a fungus called asparillagus. Now, if you do you
Speaker 3: ever watch medical dramas or you know, like trauma, life
Speaker 3: in the er, or you know, any kind of stuff
Speaker 3: like that, you will have heard of this particular fungus
Speaker 3: before because it is a natural fungus that occurs from
Speaker 3: soil rot or decay of animals or plants. Gross and
Speaker 3: also unclean inside.
Speaker 2: Air ducts, air stuff.
Speaker 3: So there have been multiple cases where people were at
Speaker 3: conferences or whatever and they got very ill. You know,
Speaker 3: the government, the CDC was brought in. They couldn't find
Speaker 3: out figure out why these people were dying same thing.
Speaker 2: In the manures whatever a long long time ago.
Speaker 3: I think it was what seventies or eighties, something like that. Anyway,
Speaker 3: anybody that is immunocompromised has any kind of lung issue,
Speaker 3: so asthma, bronchitis, COPD, math, allergy to things like that.
Speaker 3: You can actually die from asparilogous bacteria because your you
Speaker 3: don't have the capability in your lungs to fight this off,
Speaker 3: and it causes they call them asparillogous lumps or balls
Speaker 3: uh to form in your lungs, which block your alveoli
Speaker 3: from expanding and from you getting air into your lungs.
Speaker 3: That's why so many people from this Minear's convention died
Speaker 3: of asparilogus.
Speaker 1: That's scary.
Speaker 3: There's been like on on Indian reservations and stuff like
Speaker 3: that because it's it's mold in your air vents and
Speaker 3: people die from us all of the time. So what
Speaker 3: better way.
Speaker 1: I swear they have this at my job if anybody.
Speaker 3: Here, I mean, people are dying from this, So let's
Speaker 3: cram it in a drug and give well.
Speaker 1: And look look at the incidents of people that have
Speaker 1: been on the rise that are allergic to penicillin. Just
Speaker 1: like we spoke about last time. What did we speak
Speaker 1: about them putting eggs and everything, and then everybody was
Speaker 1: allergic to eggs, so they had to switch to freaking
Speaker 1: snake crap and that was bananas, you know, snake eggs.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is weird. Like whenever they start
Speaker 1: doing some crazy thing that's really like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: a poison and it could kill you. But here have
Speaker 1: some like de jocks into It's scary to me because
Speaker 1: of that. I'm like, here have some poison it's good
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: What whoa yeah? Or or botox that's.
Speaker 1: Had a bad word. But I don't know. I guess
Speaker 1: we could get in trouble.
Speaker 3: Boat talks that they literally are using, uh even off
Speaker 3: label to trade all kinds of it's a.
Speaker 1: Poison watulism, you guys fatal to kill yourselves here. It's
Speaker 1: it's the funniest one I see. And I've literally had
Speaker 1: people in my family and again this last week, I
Speaker 1: was baited and I didn't take the bait. Got put
Speaker 1: in a group message and I swear they saw our
Speaker 1: so I swear somebody's in there that they'd have to
Speaker 1: subscribe because these are behind my paywall. So they they
Speaker 1: said I have this rash blah blah blah, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, nothing to see here, and and they
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we hope you can figure it out.
Speaker 1: And I just didn't say anything. I'm like, I hope
Speaker 1: you get better. And that was all because I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I mean to get in trouble because the two things
Speaker 1: we've already talked about, the oh one for weight loss
Speaker 1: and the poison for you to keep you full. I
Speaker 1: know both of those things are going on with this person,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, let alone retinol and everything else. I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe you should just stop it. But I just use
Speaker 1: this crappy oil of ole at from Walmart. It's not
Speaker 1: even the real brand. Look, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's probably better. Honestly.
Speaker 1: It is just how long you spent in the sun genetics,
Speaker 1: and I think that's it really, And smoking and alcohol
Speaker 1: and drugs. I think those are the only like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, it's it's just crazy to me.
Speaker 3: But it's like this whole, this whole thing like the
Speaker 3: satin uh making from antibiotics to mold right fungus, And
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, this is gonna be a great idea,
Speaker 3: kind of like dumping the petroleum products and all of
Speaker 3: the gates production.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I keep going right exactly.
Speaker 3: And so this first one that was manufactured in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty seven that actually hit the market is still on
Speaker 3: the market. It's still available, people can still get it. However,
Speaker 3: the original I think it was three that they came
Speaker 3: out with are a very different kind of stat and
Speaker 3: there's two groups.
Speaker 2: There's one that crosses the blood.
Speaker 3: Brain barrier, which are the ones that are going to
Speaker 3: affect all of your neurological functioning Alzheimer's, all of that stuff,
Speaker 3: and then the newer ones that they came out with.
Speaker 3: I think there's two, unless they've made more lately, that
Speaker 3: are in the category where they do not So if
Speaker 3: you have to take one, the two that are in
Speaker 3: the don't cross the blood brain barrier category would be
Speaker 3: the better ones. If you're forced to take one.
Speaker 1: And remember those four days. For those four days, right,
Speaker 1: we'll get.
Speaker 2: Maybe if you're lucky.
Speaker 1: Maybe seven months four days. Who knows, I basically days,
Speaker 1: you know. My grandpa put it best. He was pretty
Speaker 1: young when he got terminal cancer and it was really bad.
Speaker 1: It was really fast. He had a small oat cell
Speaker 1: carcinoma of the lung, which is extremely quick, and it
Speaker 1: was already everywhere by the time we knew and he
Speaker 1: was in the hospital. They came to tell him, like
Speaker 1: we're all there. He knew something was up. I came
Speaker 1: from out of town because the doctor knew me personally
Speaker 1: called me and he goes, so you're telling me with treatment,
Speaker 1: how much longer? And they were like six months. So
Speaker 1: he's like ripping, IV's out sick and he's like, I
Speaker 1: want to go home. I want all the morphine, right.
Speaker 1: I couldn't but laugh, but he was just like making
Speaker 1: me crack up. He's like, this crap hurts Like I'm like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I get it, but it was just the way he
Speaker 1: said it.
Speaker 3: I was like, anyway, hey, I second that notion though,
Speaker 3: because like like this, and we're going to get into
Speaker 3: the side effis and the things that can happen from this.
Speaker 3: So when we go over this list, I want people
Speaker 3: to think, is that four days or post seven months,
Speaker 3: seven months going to outweigh? What else is going to
Speaker 3: happen in your body? When you could literally fix every
Speaker 3: issue that you have with them, they churn your diet.
Speaker 1: Well, they never fix it too, because like right now,
Speaker 1: my mom, Hi mom, she watches all these She is
Speaker 1: currently still on one even though she lost a bunch
Speaker 1: of weight, quit doing a lot of the things that
Speaker 1: she was doing that made her, you know, have an issue.
Speaker 1: He mould globe in a onece was high. Now it's not.
Speaker 1: Everything's kind of in check with this weight loss, you know,
Speaker 1: And they still didn't do it take her off even
Speaker 1: though they know she has she has an actual autoimmune
Speaker 1: disorder that affects pain, which guess what else affects pain?
Speaker 1: These do muscle pain literal, And I'm like, they know
Speaker 1: that she has this horrible issue with muscle pain. Why
Speaker 1: would you keep her on this and not wean her
Speaker 1: down and off of it? You know, that doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. With their labs being great, I would at
Speaker 1: least do a trial if it were me.
Speaker 3: Well, why would they? Because they can keep a life
Speaker 3: lung patient. And that's why that's why they literally keep
Speaker 3: lowering the numbers, not just for not just for cholesterol,
Speaker 3: but for diabetes, for literally everything under the sun. They
Speaker 3: keep changing the lab numbers to make them lower, lower
Speaker 3: and lower, so it's impossible to capture more people and
Speaker 3: get them on that eternal hamster wheel.
Speaker 1: Well, and then even when they are better, she's quote
Speaker 1: unquote better, they're like, oh, it's because of this. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't even know that, you don't even
Speaker 1: know that. She's no way that Yase, she looks much better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like exercise, you know, started walking, all these things,
Speaker 1: good things for her, you know, And it was hard
Speaker 1: for her because she she really hurt and so mom,
Speaker 1: you know, a way to go, mom, But she she
Speaker 1: did it. Anyways, she started getting up and doing more
Speaker 1: active things. And now you know, she she's fine. I
Speaker 1: really encourage her to, you know, try to wean this
Speaker 1: down because I think she might feel better. Most people
Speaker 1: do so.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: So what they'll tell you with these right, and, like
Speaker 3: Heidi mentioned earlier, during their studies, they exclude or don't
Speaker 3: include in their final findings a lot of the actual
Speaker 3: side effects that people are experiencing, or they remove them
Speaker 3: from the studies altogether so that they are not included
Speaker 3: in the final tabulation and tallies on whatever they're trying
Speaker 3: to achieve as their study goals. Right, And so the
Speaker 3: most common ones that you're going to hear them say are,
Speaker 3: of course the muscle pain or weakness, that's a given,
Speaker 3: but I'm going to explain that.
Speaker 1: But it's bad, you guys. Up to twenty percent people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, liver enzyme issues.
Speaker 3: I was in that category. And then some fatigue or
Speaker 3: brain fog, nausea or indigestion, headache, sleep disturbances. So those
Speaker 3: are like the common ones. But usually they'll go, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, you may get a headache, you may have
Speaker 3: an upset stomach, and you may feel a little crampy
Speaker 3: your muscles may be crampy, and that's what crampy.
Speaker 1: Rampy is not just your muscles. You can have muscle
Speaker 1: waste disease from this.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And so when they when they talk
Speaker 2: and you know, they.
Speaker 3: Talk in circles like they do with the V word
Speaker 3: that they inject, right, so it's like special pain only
Speaker 3: paint or redness at the site, blah blah blah. So
Speaker 3: they gloss over the fact that because we need cholesterol
Speaker 3: and because we talked about this attaching, you know, or
Speaker 3: or protecting the brain being a neuroprotectant. So memory loss,
Speaker 3: difficulty concentrating, difficulty uh forming memories at all, or having
Speaker 3: learning issues where you can't learn new things, you don't
Speaker 3: understand stuff, simple things, you have no critical thought process.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, that sounds for man today's society.
Speaker 1: This is exactly where they want you, guys.
Speaker 2: Stuff word finding issues, So when you have the word
Speaker 2: in your mind, this is kind of a stroke like activity,
Speaker 2: but you can't actually verbalize the word. You have those issues.
Speaker 3: These can go away with stopping this and these are
Speaker 3: less common side effects but still occur.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Elevated liver enzymes. I was in this category, but I
Speaker 3: was having like un goodly pain in my abdomen, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the what the hell is going on
Speaker 3: with me? So I went had blood work done. Of course,
Speaker 3: my liver enzymes were both elevated, and they're like, we
Speaker 3: have to send you to a specialist because these are awful.
Speaker 3: The pain I was having was pain from my liver.
Speaker 3: My liver was so inflamed and irritated. When I I
Speaker 3: went to see this specialists, they told me that they
Speaker 3: were going to have to put me on a list
Speaker 3: for a possible liver transplant. WHOA, because I had a
Speaker 3: super high fatty liver. Guess what I did. I stopped
Speaker 3: the medication. I used lemon grade or therapeutic grade lemon
Speaker 3: grass oil, and within two weeks, my liver enzymes were
Speaker 3: completely normal. I didn't have any liver pain, and the
Speaker 3: quote unquote fatty liver was gone.
Speaker 1: Were you just drinking? Is that what you did with
Speaker 1: this oil? I've never heard you can.
Speaker 3: Use on your vita flex points which you have on
Speaker 3: your hands or your feet if you have animals. I
Speaker 3: would not suggest the ones on your hands. If you're
Speaker 3: going to have shoes on or put socks on, do
Speaker 3: them on your feet, if not, put it in your
Speaker 3: belly button.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do, like your belly button.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, so you can.
Speaker 3: You can actually look up the vite deflects points because
Speaker 3: they correspond on your body to organs, and there are
Speaker 3: specific oils that you can do for specific organs. But
Speaker 3: I'm telling you two weeks my liver enzymes were normal.
Speaker 2: Do you recommend I had no fatty liver like a
Speaker 2: way oil or.
Speaker 1: Like a place to buy it at? Do you just
Speaker 1: get it?
Speaker 3: You know the ones that I have bought from, because
Speaker 3: you want to make sure that you're getting complete.
Speaker 1: Right, pure grade. Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2: So I have done. Young Living I have done.
Speaker 1: That's a Mormon place.
Speaker 3: I have done. And I have also done Mela Luca.
Speaker 1: They're all Mormon, all three. But I will say this,
Speaker 1: I have actually gone to Young Living farms. This is
Speaker 1: why I was and I'm not going to diss on this,
Speaker 1: because they really do a good job with this right,
Speaker 1: And not all Mormons are bad. They don't eat half
Speaker 1: of them don't even know what they're doing right. But well,
Speaker 1: I've seen the farms. It's real, like they legit like
Speaker 1: do really stop the same thing with all of them,
Speaker 1: like I've seen multiple.
Speaker 2: And they're good.
Speaker 3: The only thing about use and essential oils is, like
Speaker 3: I said, you want to get therapeutic grade and you
Speaker 3: want to get pure, so you don't want it to
Speaker 3: have impurities in it, extra additives things like that. So
Speaker 3: do not absolutely do not buy them at Walmart. That
Speaker 3: is a stupid idea. Buy anywhere, Like.
Speaker 1: Who knows what that is.
Speaker 3: Lemon grass is cheap, it's inexpensive. You can also do
Speaker 3: lemon grass tea. You can. You can grind lemon grass up,
Speaker 3: you can dry it, grind it up, you can use
Speaker 3: it in spices. Any kind of lemon grass is very
Speaker 3: healing for the liver.
Speaker 1: But it's bad for the dogs. Huh, they can't have it.
Speaker 3: Well, some some animals are very sensitive to essential oils
Speaker 3: and some of them like the smell alone like irritates them.
Speaker 1: So just making sure. Yeah, I was just curious.
Speaker 3: That's just as a general rule, not saying that lemon
Speaker 3: grass is bad for animals, but there are some that
Speaker 3: are that are highly toxic to animals. So okay, that's
Speaker 3: why I would watch where you put them at. But
Speaker 3: lemon grass works, and I think like a lemon grass
Speaker 3: files like eight dollars, I think the most.
Speaker 2: Ever paid work.
Speaker 1: Well, man, like, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get organic lemon grass tea or stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and you know it's a cheap fix. And
Speaker 3: like I said, you know, supposedly when you have a
Speaker 3: fatty liver that doesn't go away, you needed to transplant exactly.
Speaker 3: And and like I said, with using that, I didn't
Speaker 3: know very well.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a fatty liver anymore.
Speaker 1: I was like that doctor didn't know what was him, right.
Speaker 2: I was like not going back that guy.
Speaker 1: Ye, And it's like I'm not doing that you want to.
Speaker 3: So there is help and there are ways to fix things.
Speaker 3: But taking this long term is a bad idea. So right,
Speaker 3: wait four days to seven months, bless your heart. So
Speaker 3: digestive problems, like I said, vitamin B twelve is affected,
Speaker 3: which also you need vitamin B twelve for your bowels
Speaker 3: to move and all that stuff. So digestive problems, so bloating, constipation, diarrhea, gas,
Speaker 3: all that stuff, and why because it irritates the lining
Speaker 3: of your stomach. Your whole entire digestive tract is is
Speaker 3: protected by lesterol. So when you're removing the cholesterol, the
Speaker 3: molecules are actually irritating this not out of your GI tract,
Speaker 3: and we can fix that.
Speaker 1: You know, when they make pills like this, it pisses
Speaker 1: me off because they can make a coating on that
Speaker 1: and and tear it coating to make it digest somewhere else,
Speaker 1: and they just choose not to, right, So it's weird.
Speaker 3: So all the way down from the time you follow
Speaker 3: until the time it comes out the other kind. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's going to irritate all the way through, so
Speaker 3: rash or skin reactions, including eccima. So guess how many
Speaker 3: people are put on cholesterol medicines that are pregnant, nursing,
Speaker 3: et cetera. And then guess what the baby comes out
Speaker 3: with massive exima problems, right, Because it again, it's an irritant.
Speaker 1: Especially if you got that blood brain barrier one man,
Speaker 1: And those are definitely things because this next one also
Speaker 1: goes along with that, So dizziness or vertigo.
Speaker 3: It can be related to blood pressure changes because why
Speaker 3: because I said it affects all the beta cells in
Speaker 3: your body, right, and so it changes the beta cells
Speaker 3: in your heart and so it can increase your blood
Speaker 3: pressure and also mitochondrial disruption, which we talked about last time.
Speaker 3: Your mitochondriar your powerhouse, your cells, that your energy centers,
Speaker 3: and so when that's not working, whole bunch of things
Speaker 3: are going to happen. So the next one is scary,
Speaker 3: and this is what you touched on earlier, is the rahabdomyolysis,
Speaker 3: which is the breakdown of your muscle tissue. So your
Speaker 3: muscle tissue actually starts to degenerate and die.
Speaker 1: So this isn't get rabdough, you guys. When we as
Speaker 1: nurses see somebody, we come in, we get this paper
Speaker 1: of all these people. Okay, it's usually sideways if we
Speaker 1: see rabdough where like they made it though they're alive.
Speaker 2: Because that's scary, right, literally.
Speaker 3: Because if you think about like how much of your
Speaker 3: body is muscle, and we're not talking about just your
Speaker 3: deltoids and all of that kind of stuff, everything every
Speaker 3: place in your body that has muscular tissue, right.
Speaker 1: And so your little ticker there, gu guys.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna have severe pain, right, You're gonna have
Speaker 3: really dark urine, like dark tea coffee colored urine. And
Speaker 3: this is like it destroys your kidneys because your kidneys
Speaker 3: are made of of muscle. You've got muscle in your
Speaker 3: intestinal wall. That's how you get the squeezing motion like
Speaker 3: all of that stuff. Your body starts to just decay
Speaker 3: and break down from the inside out.
Speaker 1: And it's fast. It's no joke. And you can get
Speaker 1: that from over the counterpain relievers as well. In fact,
Speaker 1: I see that often for is safe and effect.
Speaker 3: With an eye that people take literally all the time
Speaker 3: for it too much more back pain or blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: The two most dangerous ods that we see that where
Speaker 1: we as nurses go, oh shit is the T one
Speaker 1: that people take all the time and is safe and
Speaker 1: even pregnancy, and the eye one that you can buy
Speaker 1: down at your local drug store. And let me tell
Speaker 1: you what, if we see one, especially the T one,
Speaker 1: sometimes they just go, you need to call your family.
Speaker 1: I've literally seen that where they're like, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is going to work out. Luckily,
Speaker 1: A weird drug that helps with that as an asthma drug,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you know what it is. It was
Speaker 1: something missed. I'm because I don't want to get in trouble.
Speaker 1: But if you drink it, which is weird and it
Speaker 1: smells like rotten eggs that it helps, Yeah, it helps,
Speaker 1: but weirdly enough, they just found that on accident. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It was like I'm gonna drink this nasty
Speaker 1: stuff and see if this helps. But whatever.
Speaker 3: But you know what, and this is why I love
Speaker 3: like the the doctor I worked with at the teaching facility,
Speaker 3: he was into all kinds of weird stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and I learned so many things from him, like different
Speaker 3: things for to treat sunburn or bug bites or whatever.
Speaker 2: And it was like weird stuff that you would never
Speaker 2: think of it, you.
Speaker 1: Would never put together. I feel like, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: discourage people from doing over the counter the A one
Speaker 1: that's really old. Okay, I think we could do abbreviations
Speaker 1: and be safe ASSA just because go look that up
Speaker 1: and they're trying to say now for cardiac patients not
Speaker 1: to give that anymore because it's like not made for that.
Speaker 1: You people keep taking that. I don't care what they say.
Speaker 1: That's a lie. They don't want you taking it because
Speaker 1: they can't make any money off of it. This with that,
Speaker 1: if you're worried about, you know, cardiac stuff, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: of course, don't go do anything without your doctor's approval.
Speaker 1: But what it does is it makes it doesn't make
Speaker 1: you necessarily anticoagulate like like this would, but it makes
Speaker 1: those red blood cells slippery like there's soap on them,
Speaker 1: and so they'll glide through little factors. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So that's so back to the list because that's a
Speaker 3: very long one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So again we have the new onset of diabetes, especially
Speaker 3: if you take the group that crosses the blood brain barrier.
Speaker 3: Baby be right if because again it affects those APPO
Speaker 3: B one hundred cells, and you know that is where
Speaker 3: most of the processing comes from for blood sugar. It's
Speaker 3: not the pancreas, it comes from your liver. Eighty percent
Speaker 3: of the work is done by your liver for patients
Speaker 3: with diabetes. And so if it destroys those those B cells.
Speaker 2: You're going to have a hard time in your sugar.
Speaker 3: And check also peripheral neuropathy, so numbness, deal of hands
Speaker 3: or feet, anything like that, and why because again it
Speaker 3: attacks your nerve cells, and so your nerves are what
Speaker 3: causes the numbness and the tingling sensations, twitches, ticks, all
Speaker 3: of that kind of stuff. That's all part of it.
Speaker 3: Kidney damage again, you have beta cells in your kidneys.
Speaker 2: Please take this and kill off every organ in your body.
Speaker 1: Bless your heart, but don't die so they can make
Speaker 1: money from you.
Speaker 2: Wait late, last another seven or four days.
Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, no, I'm kidding.
Speaker 3: Depressions or mood changes again, look at the way society
Speaker 3: is now because these medications have been pushed on a
Speaker 3: ginormous percentage of the population. Autoimmune myopathy, this is very interesting.
Speaker 3: This is very rare as well, but persistent muscle weakness
Speaker 3: and sometimes accompanying pain after even stopping the drug, and
Speaker 3: supposedly this requires immunosuppressive treatment to get you to start
Speaker 3: regenerating mile which is muscle regenerating your muscle cells in
Speaker 3: your body. Again, So here's some other changes that it
Speaker 3: occurs that you may not even like discover. What's going
Speaker 3: on with this decrease co Q ten levels? And what
Speaker 3: do they always tell patients who are taking statins? You
Speaker 3: may want to take fish oil and co Q ten
Speaker 3: and why is that? Because it disrupts your COQ ten
Speaker 3: that normally occurs in your body. It blocks the pathway
Speaker 3: and those are vital in the energy production for your
Speaker 3: muscle and your brain.
Speaker 1: And the pain. So the one thing is if you
Speaker 1: are going to stay on this and you do suffer
Speaker 1: from this pain in your muscles, try taking that co
Speaker 1: Q ten. Just just try for a while and see
Speaker 1: if you don't feel the O.
Speaker 3: And that has to do with that, like we talked
Speaker 3: about in the last show, the ATP production that comes
Speaker 3: when you're muscle solzer stimulated and whatnot that are the
Speaker 3: powerhouse to yourselves.
Speaker 2: That's how your coaching ten is affected.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, everybody's seeing me cough, I'm muting, So
Speaker 1: hopefully it's not it's not coming true. But apparently Operation
Speaker 1: c Spray happened again at my house. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on in your house. There's there's no but
Speaker 1: there's probably there's probably stuff falling from airplanes. That's my guess.
Speaker 2: Whatever, probably true.
Speaker 3: So this also affects your ability for your body to
Speaker 3: synthesize and move vitamin D from inactive to active. So
Speaker 3: it causes a problem with that. And the reason behind
Speaker 3: that why again, because we talked about cholesterol, specifically, triglycerides
Speaker 3: transport your soluble fat soluble vitamins and nutrients.
Speaker 1: So just thank you guys if they can mess with
Speaker 1: your Okay, if they can mess with your vitamin D level,
Speaker 1: they can mess with your immunity. If they can mess
Speaker 1: with your hormone level, they can mess with your fertility.
Speaker 1: And also how you feel about all of this, no wonder,
Speaker 1: everybody's depressed.
Speaker 2: Good one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And this is why this is so crazy because this
Speaker 3: drug literally affects almost everything in your body, and so
Speaker 3: many people are indirect one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and more.
Speaker 3: And that's why I said, with the you know, with
Speaker 3: the tainted studies, and then it's like, oh, you're pre diabetic,
Speaker 3: we probably better put you on a cholesterol medicine because
Speaker 3: that means if your doctor risk factor's higher.
Speaker 1: If your doctor isn't trying to cure the reason why
Speaker 1: you're pre diabetic, that's not a good doctor. Because it
Speaker 1: is literally simple if you have a certain kind of diet.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying we can do our best in
Speaker 1: America because they have literally tainted even the soil, even
Speaker 1: if you grow your own. Okay, but do your best.
Speaker 1: Do your best, which is better than we all are
Speaker 1: probably doing on a daily basis. Let's be honest, change
Speaker 1: the little things. Like even me, I love to drink
Speaker 1: things I shouldn't look. I went down from four and
Speaker 1: eight to one, Like it's a very simple thing. Like
Speaker 1: there's things you can do, and that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Is in moderation.
Speaker 3: But when you go to the doctor and you have
Speaker 3: blood work done ninety nine percent of the time, they're
Speaker 3: not going to go, Hidi, what you what your.
Speaker 2: Daily meal roots look like?
Speaker 3: What do you eat? Do you exercise? Do you get
Speaker 3: enough sleep? Do you have any stressors? They're not going
Speaker 3: to ask you any of that stuff. And I'm telling
Speaker 3: you what To get an accurate treatment for your patient,
Speaker 3: you have to do a full and complete risk assessment.
Speaker 1: Do you take any you know thing for replacement therapy?
Speaker 1: Do you go outside? Do you live a sedentary life? Like?
Speaker 1: All this stuff is super important. I mean, heredity is
Speaker 1: a huge part, and I get it because I'm one
Speaker 1: that got nailed with heredity. But I don't give up.
Speaker 1: Like that doesn't mean I just sit at home and
Speaker 1: do all the things they told me to do. If
Speaker 1: I did, I'd probably.
Speaker 2: Be dead head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just try my best. I still go to
Speaker 1: the gym, I still go do what I can. Like
Speaker 1: everything I can do I will do and try.
Speaker 3: So absolutely but they don't want people doing that, and
Speaker 3: that's why they ask all the important questions. It's like, here,
Speaker 3: here's a magic pill, take it.
Speaker 1: You know what they say This doctor who I really
Speaker 1: liked that I've quoted twice already, he said, if you
Speaker 1: listen to your your patient, well they will probably give
Speaker 1: you their diagnosis in the first conversation on accident. They
Speaker 1: don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing is that they may listen, but
Speaker 3: they don't you most of the time. And so that's
Speaker 3: a vital piece that's missing. And especially when they move
Speaker 3: from paper charting to electronic charting, and so you went
Speaker 3: from maybe thirty forty patients a day to maybe we're
Speaker 3: electronic now, so you have to do eighty to ninety
Speaker 3: patients a day and use this computer thing.
Speaker 2: So you don't have that.
Speaker 3: Face to FaceTime and you can't and with that patient.
Speaker 1: You can't always pick and choose what you really want.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I've had to be forced to be like, I
Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna put it in this because it's not
Speaker 1: his leg, but I you know, there's no clickbox, so.
Speaker 2: Right, one hundred percent, And they did that on purpose.
Speaker 3: So again it's going to cause blood pressure or blood
Speaker 3: sugar issues, and so there's a whole host of other
Speaker 3: things that could come from this. Like I said, if
Speaker 3: you think about every portion, like we talked about at
Speaker 3: the very beginning of the show, where it affects your
Speaker 3: your red blood cells, it can affect your bone marrow,
Speaker 3: it can affect you know, your neurological system, your circulatory system,
Speaker 3: your heart, your lungs, your kidneys, your intestines, literally and
Speaker 3: literally every part of your body can be affected by
Speaker 3: these wonder drugs.
Speaker 1: I literally think you've named almost everything one mm hm,
Speaker 1: even hair because you mentioned anemia. So I mean we're
Speaker 1: getting into things that are not going to kill you.
Speaker 1: They're just going to make you really uncomfortable and need
Speaker 1: other drugs. That's what they're looking for.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and if if they can get you roped
Speaker 3: in on taking this medication and then you have side
Speaker 3: effects on this medication, hence the dizziness or the nausea, Oh,
Speaker 3: we have drugs for that too. It's like pringles. You
Speaker 3: can't ever just have one, you gotta have the whole canon.
Speaker 3: So you're going to be on a cocktail of stuff
Speaker 3: to treat something that you don't need to treat anyway,
Speaker 3: because your cholesterol is necessary for your body to function.
Speaker 1: M h. And butter never did it. So there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have to eat real butter.
Speaker 3: You can't eat you know, generic fake fabio stuff that
Speaker 3: is not butter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get real jurned butter.
Speaker 1: My dad's mom used to say life is too cheap
Speaker 1: for fake butter. And what did she say, fake something else?
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but the butter one made me laugh. Well.
Speaker 3: And if you think about like grandparents, great grandparents or whatever,
Speaker 3: mine were old, mine like great grandparents, great great grandparents
Speaker 3: all died in.
Speaker 2: Their hundreds, every one of them.
Speaker 3: My grandparents both died in their high nineties, like ninety
Speaker 3: seven and ninety eight years old. And what was the
Speaker 3: theme of the day. They grew their own food. They
Speaker 3: raised their own chickens or.
Speaker 2: Bacon and eggs.
Speaker 3: They left the butter out on the counter, They didn't
Speaker 3: refrigerate it. They didn't have all the luxuries that we
Speaker 3: do today. They if like my grandma was baking something,
Speaker 3: she would use lard.
Speaker 2: To cook with.
Speaker 3: Lard is still on the shelves at the market, but
Speaker 3: people don't buy it very often because they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: use olive oil.
Speaker 1: Use blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Which are literally filled with soy. All of them are
Speaker 3: filled with soy, and people stopped.
Speaker 1: So is your watery? So is your water people if
Speaker 1: you are not reverse osmosis in your water. I have
Speaker 1: a son that he and I can only give my
Speaker 1: personal experience, but I will tell you. First of all,
Speaker 1: they are recycling waste water now, not just regular water
Speaker 1: pooh water literal.
Speaker 2: That's what ends the water treatment plans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they used to disallow that except for like
Speaker 1: other things like more toilet water or whatever. But but
Speaker 1: now it's allowed for drinking water. And I told my son,
Speaker 1: because we get reverse osmosis and it's like filtered with
Speaker 1: other things to make sure there's no pharmaceuticals and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Anyway, we get this fancy stuff.
Speaker 1: And so I kept telling him, I think you need
Speaker 1: to change this water because I had noticed he wasn't
Speaker 1: losing weight though he was very act if he was
Speaker 1: having trouble gaining what he was gaining weight like here,
Speaker 1: and I thought that is really weird for kids, you know.
Speaker 1: And he the fridge filter broke and so he had
Speaker 1: to because it wasn't coming out of the fridge anymore,
Speaker 1: and so he just started doing it and immediately within
Speaker 1: four months, no more breast tissue.
Speaker 3: Exactly what I see and why it's that because when
Speaker 3: they recycle that water, and it's gross.
Speaker 1: Control.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's anything that you put into your body that
Speaker 3: comes out in your waist actually goes back in here
Speaker 3: drinking water along with heavy metals.
Speaker 1: Talk. Just think of how many women are on birth
Speaker 1: control and peeing, Like, come on, guys, yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 3: And you know some mouse that's really gross about using
Speaker 3: sewage water for drinking water. A lot of times they
Speaker 3: will add bleach and things like that to it. So
Speaker 3: you can't taste or smell the gross stuff as bad.
Speaker 3: But the scum that forms on top of that water
Speaker 3: in the water treatment facilities, I.
Speaker 1: Can smell it. I can smell that algae bloom. I
Speaker 1: can smell that.
Speaker 3: They use that to make citric acid, which is used
Speaker 3: as a d caking and stabilizer for literally all of
Speaker 3: the spices that you grow or get at the grocery store.
Speaker 3: So buy whole peppercorns, grind them yourself.
Speaker 2: Buy whole chunks of salt, grind it yourself.
Speaker 3: All of that stuff don't buy the stuff at the
Speaker 3: store that has the.
Speaker 1: Potty in it has potty in it. Ew I kept
Speaker 1: telling my son forever, and then now the other day
Speaker 1: he said, I had to drink your dumb water. He
Speaker 1: doesn't like it because it's not refrigerated, and I refuse
Speaker 1: to refrigerate it because it's better for you if it's not.
Speaker 1: I like cold water. But I've just tried to trade
Speaker 1: myself to not do it. And he said, do you
Speaker 1: notice anything, And I'm like, yeah, you don't, how any
Speaker 1: breast issue at all, like a normal guy. You're and
Speaker 1: it could people are gonna say that could be a
Speaker 1: coincidence for his agent stuff. I'm telling you. It happened fast,
Speaker 1: so you get too much story.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And since there were on the topic of gross things
Speaker 3: like pooh water.
Speaker 1: And effeminine boys, yep, they.
Speaker 3: Have also made it legal and lot and lots of
Speaker 3: states now and I think it's up to like thirty
Speaker 3: eight last count I had of states that allow bodies
Speaker 3: to be composted.
Speaker 2: Hell no, and also use what for.
Speaker 3: Tagalizer and stuff. So Grandma when she goes may be
Speaker 3: sprayed from the guy or whatever to use as fertilizer
Speaker 3: for your tomatoes.
Speaker 1: Well, and I okay, this is a conspiracy theory, I
Speaker 1: have to say, because you said Grandma was being sprayed,
Speaker 1: So I okay, this is a conspiracy now. But they
Speaker 1: admitted in the past, okay past, that they used to
Speaker 1: spray blood from the skies to see. When I joked
Speaker 1: about Operations spray, I'm kind of not.
Speaker 2: It's true. Operation really happened.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And so when they sprayed the blood, which
Speaker 1: was not part of that particular operation, but if you
Speaker 1: look it up, they they wanted to see if it
Speaker 1: would make the public, like have a reaction because of
Speaker 1: different blood types that don't jive, and they found that
Speaker 1: it did. And this was way hush hush, but they
Speaker 1: say they don't do it anymore and everything. But it
Speaker 1: caused horrible autoimmune problems because your body reacted to this.
Speaker 1: It's not in the level of like a bad blood
Speaker 1: transfusion because it's you know, to diluted. But think of
Speaker 1: the things that they do to us that we know
Speaker 1: for sure. Think of Tuskegee, think of Operation c Spray.
Speaker 1: Think of the one in New York with the subways.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what that one was. There's hundreds and
Speaker 1: thousands of these things where they were like, oops, are
Speaker 1: bad what it was?
Speaker 2: And it wasn't. Really they're doing what are you live
Speaker 2: in the moment?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Test subjects the unbeknownst to us because we're not giving
Speaker 3: consent or permission for that.
Speaker 1: Of course, and they know we wouldn't, and so they
Speaker 1: just do it anyways and give it a big band aid. Sorry,
Speaker 1: and then they're like, well, what it's for science. Don't
Speaker 1: you want to kill dogs for science? No?
Speaker 3: I don't, and nothing is uh the government they can
Speaker 3: come out and say, sorry, are bad, we messed up,
Speaker 3: we shouldn't have done that. But the government investigating the
Speaker 3: government and expecting the government to pay up or whatever
Speaker 3: that come.
Speaker 1: Like like the JFK committee that checked out exactly okay, right,
Speaker 1: everything is very believable when it's done that way, actually ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And then there and then you see these people like
Speaker 1: I don't know if people have heard this, but this
Speaker 1: is real, Like in the smut magazines. I used to
Speaker 1: love smut magazines, like now I'm too busy for trash
Speaker 1: sometimes once in a while, but like the US and
Speaker 1: different whatever tab tabloidy magazines and.
Speaker 2: That's the other No.
Speaker 1: Oh, sorry, so these they're I was just gonna let
Speaker 1: you go right, yeah, smut to me. But they said
Speaker 1: that all these superstars were like weird about taking bass
Speaker 1: and that they only use wet wipes and kind of
Speaker 1: crazy stuff. And I'm like, what do they know that
Speaker 1: we don't know? That's creepy. Why do all these superstars
Speaker 1: stink like they have literally said certain superstars refuse to
Speaker 1: do certain things like regular bathing if they're not at home.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming they have certain you know, fancy schmancy filters
Speaker 1: or something, but that they literally upwards of the brad pits,
Speaker 1: you guys of the world. I'm not saying him somebody
Speaker 1: like him. I'm not saying him anyway that he was terrified,
Speaker 1: he was terrified to take a bath on set, that
Speaker 1: he would always just wet wipe it down for weeks.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Well?
Speaker 3: And I can I can understand that to a certain
Speaker 3: extent because we have people locally that we know that
Speaker 3: we're like during our band days and whatever that don't bathe,
Speaker 3: don't use soap, don't use the shampoo, like none of
Speaker 3: that stuff. Because they believe in building up your own community.
Speaker 3: I get your skin is your largest organ in your body.
Speaker 1: So but this was because he was afraid. That's weird.
Speaker 3: For what it's worth, some people are very strange, right
Speaker 3: like things about him. But did he have an experience
Speaker 3: that costs him to which PTSD attached to that.
Speaker 1: Or did somebody tell him something at an eyes wide
Speaker 1: shop party about the water and he now no longer
Speaker 1: does that because he knows right and at home he
Speaker 1: probably has some fancy way around it. But like on set,
Speaker 1: you get what you get. And so I postulate that
Speaker 1: a lot of these people know some things. Do all
Speaker 1: of them no, like whatever, But it's weird. I'd explained
Speaker 1: some grungy superstars exactly.
Speaker 3: Oh, and I've had a lot of patients that were
Speaker 3: like that that don't bathe don't shave much.
Speaker 1: Get a filter, Yeah, get a filter, guys, no way.
Speaker 3: So, like we talked about one of the one of
Speaker 3: the concerns of the independent group that's not included in
Speaker 3: the pharma government.
Speaker 1: Or the paid group.
Speaker 3: Yeah stuff, as they're over prescribing, and we talked about
Speaker 3: that where literally they've widened the group. It used to
Speaker 3: be just people with high cholesterol and then it was
Speaker 3: high cholesterol hydroglycerides and blood sugar or hey, now it's
Speaker 3: pre diabetics, people that aren't diagnosed with diabetes yet, but
Speaker 3: they could be. They might be, doesn't mean they're going
Speaker 3: to be, right, change your diet, and so they have
Speaker 3: widened it. Plus they're looking at reducing the age limitations
Speaker 3: on this, just like they do with everything else, to
Speaker 3: make sure that they can start giving it younger and
Speaker 3: younger and younger and younger. Right, And like you said,
Speaker 3: the benefit, it's maybe greatly exaggerated in these groups, right,
Speaker 3: seven or four days, it's seven months, right, yes, And
Speaker 3: with that whole in that whole situation, also, the absolute
Speaker 3: risk reduction for those without pre existing heart issues is
Speaker 3: so small that it is a less than one percent
Speaker 3: reduction in the chance that you may have.
Speaker 1: It that it will even help the will and then
Speaker 1: it will even help Yeah, time.
Speaker 3: You're okay, I'll jump right on that because that.
Speaker 1: Sounds one percent less than one less than one percent.
Speaker 1: And if you guys have if you guys have any
Speaker 1: questions about whether or not you should be on it
Speaker 1: and you don't want to hear from our song cast
Speaker 1: of gases, you can go to a tool at the
Speaker 1: Mayo Clinic and they Actually I thought this was something
Speaker 1: good in the right direction. They have a statin decision
Speaker 1: ad tool and you can put your labs in there.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to do it with your doctor, but I
Speaker 1: get it they're probably not going to do that in
Speaker 1: the ten minutes they have for you. So you could
Speaker 1: do it and take it to them maybe. Yeah, And.
Speaker 3: If you have a holistic doctor or a naturopathic doctor,
Speaker 3: right talk to them about it.
Speaker 2: However, me coming from.
Speaker 3: All kinds of specialty field, I don't trust doctors with
Speaker 3: the poopy doo doo.
Speaker 2: I used to.
Speaker 3: Highly believe in the Mayo clinic. However, they do get.
Speaker 2: A lot of they're funny yeah, from pharma government gates, So.
Speaker 1: Just say keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So one of the other things this study
Speaker 3: found was the cognitive.
Speaker 2: Issues that come along with these and the diabetes risk.
Speaker 3: Because are doctors discussing these with their patients. No, it's
Speaker 3: you may have some mild cramping, That's what's being discussed.
Speaker 3: It's not any of the serious side effects or possibly
Speaker 3: long lasting side of X. And it's not hey, you're
Speaker 3: gonna go cuckoo and not remember your grammar.
Speaker 1: Kids.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, yeah, Well, sometimes that's selective selective memory, right.
Speaker 3: And then there's also a problem with industry and flaw
Speaker 3: and said, why is that, because, like we discussed at
Speaker 3: the beginning of the show, five percent of the studies
Speaker 3: out there are supposedly independent. However, I will say this,
Speaker 3: when you apply for a research grant or apply for
Speaker 3: study funding, et cetera, et cetera, it says government funding,
Speaker 3: private funding, which they can. The terms are very loose
Speaker 3: on this, so there's loopholes to get around even saying
Speaker 3: that there's no government money, but you're funded by a university.
Speaker 3: The university gets grants from the government or grants from
Speaker 3: pharma or whatever, or you can put non disclosed.
Speaker 2: So you don't know, you don't know about it.
Speaker 3: These even in that five percent, right, you don't even
Speaker 3: know if that is really genuinely independent studies. But that's
Speaker 3: the problem because with these industry influenced studies, they will
Speaker 3: arrive at the outcome that they need to get the
Speaker 3: FDA approval to go through. And with a lot of
Speaker 3: these this runs through a specialized group, oh I think
Speaker 3: it was called c c CTT Cholesterol Treatment Trialist Group.
Speaker 3: It goes most of these studies that are government funded,
Speaker 3: farma funded. They go through the CTT collaboration, which means
Speaker 3: there is restricted access to trial data, so you can't
Speaker 3: see the genuine real numbers or issues, study problems, things
Speaker 3: like that in their study, lack of data transparency. So again,
Speaker 3: like we talked about earlier, that side effects or removing
Speaker 3: people or removing people in the group that have complications
Speaker 3: that they don't want to deal with in this study,
Speaker 3: so they remove those people as well. So with this
Speaker 3: CTT group, they control almost every single one of the
Speaker 3: studies that comes out that gets published that's funded by
Speaker 3: pharma or government or education that's in bed with them
Speaker 3: as well, and so there's not enough independent review because
Speaker 3: a lot of times when these places, like we talked
Speaker 3: about before, if a truly independent study comes out, it's
Speaker 3: published in a small journal or like it's buried by
Speaker 3: the government because they don't want that information to come out.
Speaker 3: So one of the they have an opposing group to
Speaker 3: the CTT group that's called the n NT group and
Speaker 3: it's a watch dog group, but they look for publications
Speaker 3: in small journals like the British Medical Journal. A lot
Speaker 3: of independent studies are actually published in that and not
Speaker 3: so much in the United States.
Speaker 1: That's where that doctor was from, that y that I
Speaker 1: talked about. Yes, but they ruined him.
Speaker 3: Still, just well, that's not surprising because he didn't go
Speaker 3: along to get along.
Speaker 1: Nope, he said he didn't care because his dad actually
Speaker 1: died of an am I and he actually thinks there
Speaker 1: was some well, the average time frame to get to
Speaker 1: a person having an am I there was typically eight minutes.
Speaker 1: His dance was over thirty, and they were well aware
Speaker 1: of who he was.
Speaker 3: Yes, purposeful targeting of individuals.
Speaker 1: Kind of feels that way. Huh, happens.
Speaker 2: Happens.
Speaker 3: So any anytime there's like an alternative view on what
Speaker 3: is already out there as the mainstream narrative per se
Speaker 3: on cluster all, they're going to try to squash it
Speaker 3: or say that the doctors are cooks, the researchers or kooks, whatever,
Speaker 3: because they don't want to make waves, right, they want
Speaker 3: to keep that hamster wheel of money going.
Speaker 1: Better believe it if you think they're in it for
Speaker 1: your health for real, just like twenty twenty happened. I
Speaker 1: just want to remind people they did something that were
Speaker 1: completely unethical in a time where they could because they
Speaker 1: could and that's that every time they get the chance,
Speaker 1: they take it and they give you a small sorry,
Speaker 1: just like Tuskegee, just like Ceasfree, just like all these
Speaker 1: other things that I could mention a hundred of them,
Speaker 1: and you know what, all you'll see is them go
Speaker 1: my bad sorry.
Speaker 3: Well to your point, like the social distancing, the masking,
Speaker 3: you can't visit family in the hospital or in the
Speaker 3: nursing home, blah blah blah, Oh your family member died,
Speaker 3: Well you're sorry. Oh yeah, Well, now the studies came
Speaker 3: out showing that all of those things were blowney and
Speaker 3: we just made them up arbitrarily. But to those people
Speaker 3: that suffered loss because of that, I'm truly sorry. But
Speaker 3: the government is really not. So don't ever believe that
Speaker 3: they know that these things are Just like they know
Speaker 3: every single thing that they come up with is bad.
Speaker 3: They're going to push it anyway because it's money, it's
Speaker 3: big mothers.
Speaker 1: Yep, of course, it's it's scary, and no one listened.
Speaker 1: They don't want you dead, They just want you sick
Speaker 1: for a very long time, and they will continue to
Speaker 1: talk to you about the variance. I'm not saying sicknesses
Speaker 1: don't go around. Clearly, I've got something going on, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is on the rise. It is the
Speaker 1: thing from twenty twenty that will never go away. Right now.
Speaker 1: I can't say mine is because I don't stick crap
Speaker 1: up my nose right to check. But I will say
Speaker 1: that a bunch of people have been getting that right now,
Speaker 1: or influenza or other weird things in the middle of
Speaker 1: summer this year, which is just fantastically strange. It's also
Speaker 1: more humid here than it ever is in weirdly heavy air,
Speaker 1: very thick. You know, they're doing what they want to do,
Speaker 1: so don't don't do the extra mile. They're already getting you.
Speaker 1: They're getting you with your food, they're getting you with
Speaker 1: other stuff. Don't give them a pass with everything.
Speaker 3: I was gonna I was gonna say, they're they're going
Speaker 3: the extra mile. They're gonna do what they want to do.
Speaker 2: So guess what you do what you want to do.
Speaker 3: If your doctor says, you know what your cholesterol is
Speaker 3: one twenty and we want it under one hundred.
Speaker 2: To hear, take this pill.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: Hope you listen to our show and you've got some
Speaker 3: critical thinking and you're like, do I really wanna extend
Speaker 3: my life for extra days or possibly seven months, with
Speaker 3: a less than one percent chance that it's gonna help
Speaker 3: you at all.
Speaker 1: Right, right, I I just think that overall, you know,
Speaker 1: back in the day, okay, so I've been in our
Speaker 1: twenty six years now, when we would give pills, it
Speaker 1: would be between four to six pills at nighttime, and
Speaker 1: these were pretty critically sick people. Nowadays it's a huge cupful,
Speaker 1: like twenty. It's so many. And this isn't nighttime when
Speaker 1: most people don't take a lot at nighttime. You know,
Speaker 1: this is like and it's not pills that are like
Speaker 1: for pain, of course not. You can't have that anymore,
Speaker 1: anything that will actually help somebody. Throw that all out
Speaker 1: of the window. I'm not saying there's not an addiction
Speaker 1: problem in the world. Also, I'm saying there are people
Speaker 1: in true pain. There has to be at some point
Speaker 1: some weighing where we go, this person is sixty five
Speaker 1: years old and broke half of the bones in their body.
Speaker 1: Do we really care if they're addicted to it? I mean,
Speaker 1: it depends, like completely inebriated, not functional, but also they
Speaker 1: might want to get out of bed, you know, right, brain,
Speaker 1: you know you used to give things that weren't like
Speaker 1: over the top, right, like that they got rid of,
Speaker 1: Like I could, I think I can mention that because
Speaker 1: it's no longer on the market, which is darvaset, something
Speaker 1: that's smaller, like not quite at that top tier. Or
Speaker 1: they would give a smaller doses. We never saw doses
Speaker 1: of twenty and thirty milligrad. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: That's crazy they had if that was happening, right, that
Speaker 1: was not no, But nowadays we see it all the time, right,
Speaker 1: And one one or the other.
Speaker 3: It's highly profitable to push out the same medication in
Speaker 3: a higher dosage because wink, you might have a lot
Speaker 3: of patients that are.
Speaker 2: Going to need that higher dosage.
Speaker 3: And if you deal with patients that have pain cycles,
Speaker 3: they do not need to be started out on the
Speaker 3: highest dosage ever ever, ever.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, like, okay, be responsible and follow
Speaker 1: through with all of that. Like you don't even hear
Speaker 1: about tilin all three anymore. You don't even hear about
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff that they used to have
Speaker 1: older people on. Right, that wasn't so crazy, you know?
Speaker 1: And why is it either they get nothing or they
Speaker 1: get oxy What is happening like here, there is nothing
Speaker 1: in the middle.
Speaker 3: And see, the bad thing is for for situations like
Speaker 3: that is when people age, your metabolism naturally slows down.
Speaker 3: You cannot metabolize a high dose narcotic like that as
Speaker 3: an elderly or geriatric patient, and so those molecules stay
Speaker 3: floating around in your radicals and then you've got another
Speaker 3: dose that comes and that patient tolerate that, and they do.
Speaker 1: The worst one is don't I don't want to the
Speaker 1: X one that makes you sleepy.
Speaker 3: Okay, Then everybody gets now because it's like candy.
Speaker 1: Because they will give that instead of a pain medicine,
Speaker 1: which is the appropriate thing. But people are so desperate,
Speaker 1: and I get it because I have been that desperate
Speaker 1: in that much pain where I'm like, I would have
Speaker 1: taken anything, you know, but that one in particular, that's addictive. Well,
Speaker 1: speaking to your point of the doses and metabolism, you
Speaker 1: don't know because that one circulates like the V one
Speaker 1: that used to be real popular, which does work for
Speaker 1: muscle spasms, which they refuse to give to people. But
Speaker 1: long story short, it builds up in the blood stream
Speaker 1: and then your next one might be a triple dose,
Speaker 1: not on purpose, not on purpose, but it might activate
Speaker 1: those other doses that were floating, like Janet said, and
Speaker 1: they go pick up those little molecules and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you belong with us, let's go out for bam And
Speaker 1: they just knocked out. And then guess what they always
Speaker 1: give too with that med's to go to sleep. And
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it was yes, I was.
Speaker 3: Just gonna say, and and those oh my word. If
Speaker 3: you are prescribing a prescription strength sleep medication in an
Speaker 3: elderly patient.
Speaker 1: Anybody over sixty, guys, that's a.
Speaker 3: Darn well better make sure that you prescribe the possible
Speaker 3: lowess dosage and that person has someone to watch them,
Speaker 3: because I have had patient for I have patients that
Speaker 3: literally jumped out second story windows.
Speaker 1: One that starts with the D which they love.
Speaker 2: Makes them like.
Speaker 3: Mentally unaware, and so they're kind of sleep walking and
Speaker 3: they're able.
Speaker 2: They're driving.
Speaker 1: Don't take that, if you're all, do not take the
Speaker 1: A one. Yeah, and the D one or the T
Speaker 1: whichever one you get their own, is the last of
Speaker 1: that turn. You can fill in the blanks there. But
Speaker 1: that one, in particular for people over sixty, is really
Speaker 1: not good for you. And it's actually clinically marketed as
Speaker 1: an antidepressant, so it will affect your mood and all
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. And they do it so easily. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing doses that I have never given my life right now,
Speaker 1: two and three hundred milligrams. I'm telling you, guys, Look,
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to go to sleep. Put your
Speaker 1: phone down, get it the hell away from you, turn
Speaker 1: off your TV quick, having the lights on, like we
Speaker 1: talked about, right you guys, gotta you know, make yourself
Speaker 1: at the highest level for sleep. And this comes from
Speaker 1: somebody who has suffered with insomnia for years. And guess
Speaker 1: what I started doing all that trouble anymore so that
Speaker 1: certain things if you're over sixty, including over the counter
Speaker 1: medication for allergies that start with the bee, super dangerous
Speaker 1: for old people, super dangerous like you cannot And I'm
Speaker 1: not just saying old like I'm almost old. Sixty is
Speaker 1: not that old. That's what we're talking about, right.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm close to that because, like we talked
Speaker 3: about last time, that senior menu discount is coming up.
Speaker 1: It's terrifying me that things they give to.
Speaker 3: People, yes, really well, and this especially this classification of
Speaker 3: drugs is uber uber uber over prescribed in that population
Speaker 3: of people. And again, because your metabolism slows, these are
Speaker 3: floating around.
Speaker 2: And so if you're on.
Speaker 3: One that especially crosses the blood brain barrier, what do
Speaker 3: you think those extra molecules are doing that are floating
Speaker 3: around up there because your body can't and.
Speaker 1: You will get a DUI for it. Like my brother,
Speaker 1: I will share this because he's passed. My brother took
Speaker 1: the correct dose and was driving. But what happened, I
Speaker 1: think this is speculation, is that he had had a
Speaker 1: dose a couple of days previously and it picked up
Speaker 1: those free raticals. For whatever reason, he didn't absorb it correctly.
Speaker 1: And he said, I've always taken this dose. I was
Speaker 1: always fine, and I wasn't fine. He's like, and I
Speaker 1: knew it, and I pulled over to get some food
Speaker 1: and they arrested him, and I'm like, but your level
Speaker 1: was blah blah blah, and he's like, yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: telling you what it was like. I only took the
Speaker 1: same thing I always take and he went to jail.
Speaker 3: So and that's why it's not just it's not just
Speaker 3: with aging that that happens slow metricalism can come stress,
Speaker 3: chronic inflammation, chronic sickness. Your cortisol levels aren't balanced. Limitations
Speaker 3: other medications, just like we talked about with this right,
Speaker 3: especially beta blockers, especially steroids, And so if it slows
Speaker 3: down your metabolism, guess what, you got a problem because
Speaker 3: all of those particles are floating around in your bloodstream
Speaker 3: looking for a party, looking for a place to hook
Speaker 3: up with the other particles floating around.
Speaker 1: And do not eat grapefruit with this medication. There's some
Speaker 1: other ones I can't remember, but this is important for
Speaker 1: you to look up the contraindications on food. I don't
Speaker 1: know if Janet has them straight out the gate.
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't, but I know one of the things
Speaker 3: that we always used to tell patients is stay away
Speaker 3: from spinach, ya know, if that's like still still, but
Speaker 3: there are definitely And if you are expecting the doctor
Speaker 3: or the pharmacist to tell you those things, they're not
Speaker 3: going to ask you. Uh, they're not going to mention it.
Speaker 3: So if they say read your package insert, I strongly
Speaker 3: suggest doing that, but I strongly just doing a little
Speaker 3: bit of uh yeah yeah, But I strongly suggest that
Speaker 3: you do a little bit of looking up on your
Speaker 3: own and and chat GPT or rock or whatever is
Speaker 3: good source to ask.
Speaker 1: Uh, they're not going to double check, you know. It
Speaker 1: used to be that the pharmacist would say, hey.
Speaker 2: You can't even double check your medications again.
Speaker 1: Do you know? A couple weeks ago, I literally picked
Speaker 1: up something that was not my medicine. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm allergic to this. B It was labeled my name,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't right and it was a narcotic. And
Speaker 1: I could have kept it and been like, you guys,
Speaker 1: go to you know where I'm gonna keep these. A.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that because it's wrong. B. People would
Speaker 1: do that that aren't me. See, I was a good
Speaker 1: enough person to call and tell them and not sue
Speaker 1: their ass and D I returned them all. But like
Speaker 1: most people.
Speaker 3: Would would not yep, especially then you got free narcotics because.
Speaker 1: Oh it was I was, what is this.
Speaker 3: Like your driver's license and stuff in a lot of places.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing about.
Speaker 2: What if I took one right exactly?
Speaker 3: And here's the thing is that pharmacist or pharmacy employees,
Speaker 3: I should say, most of the ploys of the pharmacy
Speaker 3: don't have a degree, right, you know the kids pharmacy texts. Uh,
Speaker 3: so they don't have the education necessary. They don't check
Speaker 3: medication against medication. So if you are supposed to take
Speaker 3: whatever new drug is on the market and it says
Speaker 3: don't take it, if you are taking an m AOI
Speaker 3: or whatever, they don't check medication against medication anymore. They
Speaker 3: don't understand that contraindication. So you could actually be taking
Speaker 3: two things that are going to interact and cause severe
Speaker 3: damage or possibly even a fatality. Yes, because they don't
Speaker 3: know to check those things. And they don't don't drug
Speaker 3: allergies a lot of times either.
Speaker 1: Yeah they do not. Yeah I had allergy that was
Speaker 1: crazy And don't expect them to just like don't don't
Speaker 1: trust it thing. Just look the pharmacists or is overworked
Speaker 1: as the doctor with this new system. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that they're not good, but there it's not like
Speaker 1: it used to be.
Speaker 2: Right. No, the only thing about is.
Speaker 1: If you get a paint pill and then they'll put
Speaker 1: all over it, you could die. And when I had
Speaker 1: my back surgery, I was like, are you kidding me
Speaker 1: right now? Like leave me alone. I am going through hell.
Speaker 2: You know exactly.
Speaker 3: But that's that's the thing, though, is anytime with anything,
Speaker 3: no matter what it is, no matter what they put
Speaker 3: it on, ask questions and then research on your own.
Speaker 3: Do not expect doctor, nurse, pharmacist, pharmacy staff to give
Speaker 3: you the information that you need to make an informed choice.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, sight.
Speaker 1: For sure and so yep, be aware, be aware, be aware,
Speaker 1: try to limit your medications. I as a person that
Speaker 1: has to take medicine for the rest of my life
Speaker 1: or I will die. There's no replication for thyroid being
Speaker 1: gone completely. I get it. But also I pay a
Speaker 1: lot of money for the brand name because I know
Speaker 1: this happened that Puerto Rico used to make a really
Speaker 1: good generic, then they got hit and destroyed with their
Speaker 1: whole weather situation out there, and then ever since then
Speaker 1: it went to like somewhere else and they couldn't keep
Speaker 1: me in check, blah blah blah. And luckily my doctor
Speaker 1: was a good enough doctor to say, I forbid you
Speaker 1: to have a generic. You literally said you cannot, and
Speaker 1: they get mad at me at the pharmacy, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we have this generic, and I'm like, I can't have it,
Speaker 1: even though he checked the box like they can see this.
Speaker 3: And why cost me things for them? Because if they
Speaker 3: can and save the pharmacy or the pharmacy plan right whatever,
Speaker 3: and your plan that you're on, if they can save
Speaker 3: them money, they get paybacks.
Speaker 1: Yes, kickbacks, and they don't care, like all constantly have
Speaker 1: to wait for those medicines that are less popular. I
Speaker 1: also take another one that for my asthma. It's this
Speaker 1: weird inhaler. Somebody said, I look like I was smoking,
Speaker 1: but anyway, this isn't Inhaler And they're like, but that's
Speaker 1: an older one. Don't you have the new I'm like, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't want to know your new shit that costs
Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars like we were talking about. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: just keep me on that, Please get that for me.
Speaker 1: And they know I come every month and every month
Speaker 1: I have to wait because they don't order it.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, they're hoping that you'll change your mind
Speaker 3: and never going to do that for people who who
Speaker 3: don't know and aren't familiar with this. In the world
Speaker 3: of pharmacy, and like Heidi talked about the difference between.
Speaker 2: Brand name and generic.
Speaker 3: Generic manufacturers in the United States are literally required to
Speaker 3: only have twelve percent of the actual active ingredient in
Speaker 3: that brand name drug.
Speaker 1: And then guess what happens twelve percent you're used to
Speaker 1: taking two because they don't work worth crap, including my
Speaker 1: asthma drugs. You know. I had to look up my
Speaker 1: asthma drugs because I was like, this pill is not working.
Speaker 1: I looked it up. That particular company has had actual
Speaker 1: complaints filed against them for it not working, and I
Speaker 1: ended up in the hospital over it not very long
Speaker 1: ago when I posted. So you have to make sure
Speaker 1: for yourself, like, wait, what about these square ones. They'll
Speaker 1: start acting like you're a lunatic too, like at the pharmacy,
Speaker 1: especially if it's about pain meds. When I went through
Speaker 1: that whole back thing. Oh my gosh. I know the
Speaker 1: difference between certain things because I do a lot of
Speaker 1: studying because I was in a situation back then, and
Speaker 1: I knew what worked and didn't work. I knew that much,
Speaker 1: and as a rapid metabolizer, I was always in a situation,
Speaker 1: you know, right, So I would tell them no, not that, No,
Speaker 1: I don't want that. If you do that, you are
Speaker 1: labeled the most kookiest druggy seeker.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, yep, but that's the thing,
Speaker 3: like you you.
Speaker 2: Hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 3: And like we talked about with the last episode, everybody's
Speaker 3: body is different, right, everybody requires different things, And so
Speaker 3: if you have patients that are rapid metabolizer, and especially
Speaker 3: for any time of narcotic situation, they really should take
Speaker 3: that consideration because it's like.
Speaker 1: You're sitting there in paying like it's awful, like it was.
Speaker 2: In between.
Speaker 3: Then they'll go, oh, well, take her tyl it all,
Speaker 3: take ivyprofen, you know, take a Napperson or whatever.
Speaker 1: Whatever, and you get poisoned from that, And exactly that's
Speaker 1: the whole scary thing. Like I can literally tell them,
Speaker 1: this isn't in my head. This happens when I go
Speaker 1: to the dentist for a dental shot. This isn't because
Speaker 1: I took it for a long time. This happened to
Speaker 1: my elderly grandma and she never took medicine like that,
Speaker 1: Like she was the same way, you know, So you
Speaker 1: can give them those examples. They don't care. You're still
Speaker 1: a whacked out druggie. And every time I go to
Speaker 1: the emergency room, which is never, I have to almost
Speaker 1: be dead. Okay. Literally the last time I went in
Speaker 1: for my bronchitis and he wouldn't even he was like,
Speaker 1: not even going to give me a script for I
Speaker 1: was sick, you know, I needed an antibiotic. And he said,
Speaker 1: I said, look, I don't know why you care. Like
Speaker 1: this is weird to me. It's not like I'm in
Speaker 1: here all the time. And he goes, oh, I know,
Speaker 1: I checked, and I was like, okay, Like as soon
Speaker 1: as you are labeled, it could be years later, you know,
Speaker 1: and they still they still have that crap on your file.
Speaker 1: So sucks. Sucks. But yeah, and one last thing to
Speaker 1: mention on these pills, just FYI and those independent studies
Speaker 1: from the guy that I spoke about, he did say this,
Speaker 1: there was no difference between the placebo pill and the
Speaker 1: pill working for the outcome for most people because not
Speaker 1: because it doesn't work, but because the power of your
Speaker 1: mind is very strong. And so people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's working and I'm feeling better, So I am, and
Speaker 1: literally your body will perform to that level, and so
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't hurt to have some positive thinking.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And it's again goes back to simantics, right and the
Speaker 3: structure of water because we're full of fluid, and so
Speaker 3: keeping that positive energy and speaking those positive things definitely
Speaker 3: helps in the healing process.
Speaker 1: And demand treatment. I'm sorry, do not accept like, oh well,
Speaker 1: I would have died if I hadn't demanded treatment when
Speaker 1: I did with the infection that I had and basically
Speaker 1: almost got arrested because they were going to call the
Speaker 1: cops on me. And I was like, do it. You
Speaker 1: do that and see what happens. I'm here to be treated.
Speaker 1: This is your legal job. Know your rights, because if
Speaker 1: I was a little more person, I would have died
Speaker 1: because they tried to send me home like that.
Speaker 3: And absolutely and if if you don't like to carry
Speaker 3: you're getting at one facility, go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Yep, and then report their asses.
Speaker 2: Likely I just say, I don't trust.
Speaker 3: I don't trust anybody's no anyway, Miss Hedie, thank you
Speaker 3: so much for joining me again.
Speaker 1: You thank you, of course.
Speaker 2: I hope I.
Speaker 3: Hope that this helps a lot of people. I hope
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