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<v Speaker 1>You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report

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<v Speaker 1>a UFO hanging in?

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>To report every thirty one. Do you wish to.

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<v Speaker 3>Report a UFO over hey, we want to one of.

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<v Speaker 1>Those areas thirty one.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you wish to find a report of any kind

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<v Speaker 4>of it?

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

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<v Speaker 4>Areas thirty one me neither, there were seven one good if.

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<v Speaker 1>It was anybody above us to pass us, like thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 5>Ago, we were sending one of golf negative.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, OFFI the UFO.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes, if you passed over.

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<v Speaker 6>I got I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 5>It was, but it's from at least to three thousand

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<v Speaker 5>feet above us. See, I passed right over the top

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<v Speaker 5>of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety one one.

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<v Speaker 5>You just called both to be be fours.

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<v Speaker 1>They're after staying the airplanes.

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<v Speaker 3>He is to God on an unidentified object, every liberty

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<v Speaker 3>or call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

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<v Speaker 7>Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share their

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<v Speaker 7>experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had an encounter,

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<v Speaker 7>I would like to be on the show. You can

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<v Speaker 7>email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello everyone, and welcome to this show. How are you

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<v Speaker 4>all doing? I'm Nick Canter and you're listening to the

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<v Speaker 4>UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight, we're joined by Stephen from New

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<v Speaker 4>York State, who's had more than the fair share of

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<v Speaker 4>strange encounters. One unforgettable night during his teenage years, a

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<v Speaker 4>quiet swim with a friend turned surreal when a blinding

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<v Speaker 4>light and a deep vibrating hum descended above their pool,

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<v Speaker 4>leaving the boys in stand silence. Later, as an adult,

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen encountered a truly massive, flat bottomed craft drifting silently

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<v Speaker 4>over his neighborhood. It was a moment of awe, quickly

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<v Speaker 4>followed by disbelief from others. Into a friend independently confirmed

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<v Speaker 4>seeing the same UFO just miles away, down to the

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<v Speaker 4>exact shape and eerie presence. Stephen siting span decades and

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<v Speaker 4>defy explanation. Stephen is up next, but first, if you

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<v Speaker 4>Hello Stephen, Welcome to the show, hither Neid.

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<v Speaker 5>He is great to have you with us tonight and

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<v Speaker 5>you'll call in from New York State. Yes, I am

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<v Speaker 5>now Stephen. You have some experiences to share. Would you

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<v Speaker 5>like to start at the beginning?

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<v Speaker 6>Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would love to. I have you know, always

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<v Speaker 1>had sightings growing up from starting from the age of five,

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<v Speaker 1>and I never really thought too much about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, oh, that's cool. It's different because when I

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<v Speaker 1>was growing up, we really didn't have any exposure to

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<v Speaker 1>these things. I'm talking about late sixties, early seventies into

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties. But I had two really unique experiences that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to focus on tonight. But I also want

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<v Speaker 1>to share with you that my main thing is for

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<v Speaker 1>most of my experiences was clarification. I actually got some

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<v Speaker 1>clarification for these things, so it really made me even

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<v Speaker 1>wonder more so what happened to me? You know, what

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<v Speaker 1>did I just experience? So the very first experience, I

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<v Speaker 1>was five years old and my sister and I were

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<v Speaker 1>came home from school. I was in kindergarten and I

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<v Speaker 1>think she was in first grade. My grandmother this and

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<v Speaker 1>she would be in the kitchen, you know, taking around

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<v Speaker 1>making cookies or something. When we would come home, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be probably around two o'clock or two thirty. She

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<v Speaker 1>would make us a sandwich, you know, usually peanut butter

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<v Speaker 1>and jelly, and we'd sit at the kitchen window, at

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<v Speaker 1>the table that faced out to the edge of our

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<v Speaker 1>suburban development, which was pretty country like because it was

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<v Speaker 1>just being built, so outside this window there were no

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<v Speaker 1>houses yet, but there was there was still a road,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it went up a dirt road up on

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty big hill, and we were eating our sandwich

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<v Speaker 1>and I looked out the window and my sister Betsy says, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, what's that? And I said, oh, look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fuzzy, pink and blue blowing saucer that

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<v Speaker 1>must have been right on the top of the hill,

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<v Speaker 1>not too far from where we were in our house

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<v Speaker 1>looking out this window. So we dropped everything and ran

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<v Speaker 1>outside to go look. And as soon as we got

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<v Speaker 1>out there the thing was gone. But we were we

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was so cool, and we were asking my

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<v Speaker 1>And he looked at each other and said, well, that

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<v Speaker 1>was cool. And that was pretty much it for that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But then as I grew up, oh, there'd be instances

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<v Speaker 1>that were just out of the blue. Like for one time,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the car with all my brothers and

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<v Speaker 1>sisters and my dad was driving, and we were going

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<v Speaker 1>to church, and he said, hey, kids, look at that,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was orange glowing saucer that was zipping around

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<v Speaker 1>on just above the mountain side, above the hot in

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<v Speaker 1>front of us on the highway, and we all just

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<v Speaker 1>looked at amazement, as it almost knew we were watching it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was doing a little show for us. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there was another time when I was I think

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<v Speaker 1>in seventh or eighth grade. I was like thirteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was up at my best friend Mark's swimming pool

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<v Speaker 1>at night that just the two of us were swimming

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<v Speaker 1>out there alone, and there were some pool lights on,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was still pretty dark. We're sitting there and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden we hear what sounded like almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a continuous drum beat, pretty loud, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, there was this huge beam of light

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<v Speaker 1>that showed down on the pool, and all we could

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<v Speaker 1>see was this big, glowing kind of orb light thing

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<v Speaker 1>shooting this beam right down at us at the pool.

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<v Speaker 1>We're both in amazement, and then before you knew it,

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<v Speaker 1>the drum beat, vibrating sun quit, and then the thing

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<v Speaker 1>took off. We must have sat there for two hours

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what the heck that was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was not a helicopter, because I know what a helicopter

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, we both did. But it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>really freaky incident. And then a few probably about ten

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<v Speaker 1>years later, where I lived the same area, I was

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<v Speaker 1>driving to a friend's house and it was just about nighttime,

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<v Speaker 1>and I came to the stop sign that came to

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<v Speaker 1>this major thoroughfare road you know, that I had to

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<v Speaker 1>take to get to my friends, and I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to go right, so I looked. I rolled down the

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<v Speaker 1>could go, and the traffic was free, and just as

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up, I saw this enormous, massive black bottom

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<v Speaker 1>ship fly by, like little lights on it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was just so entirely black. It was almost invisible, but

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<v Speaker 1>you could still see it there, and it made the

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<v Speaker 1>tree top kind of wave back and forth because it

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<v Speaker 1>was that low. So I'm watching an amazement and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I couldn't see it anymore. So

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<v Speaker 1>I went ahead and went to my party and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to tell everyone about it. Well, they all laughed

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<v Speaker 1>and thought, you're full of it, Steve. So the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend Carolyn called and she lived down the

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<v Speaker 1>around the same time that I thought, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>coming home from work and she said, you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to believe what I saw. Well, she described the same

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<v Speaker 1>exact thing that I saw. So that was That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about clarification. It's so cool to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to have that clarification that it was definitely something you saw.

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<v Speaker 1>It gives you the clarification that you truly did see

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<v Speaker 1>what you saw. Now. One of the most unique experiences

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<v Speaker 1>that I had was in nineteen eighty five, after I

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<v Speaker 1>went to community college for two years, I got into

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<v Speaker 1>a really good school for graphic design, so a transfer

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<v Speaker 1>and I went to school there a full year and

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<v Speaker 1>I was living in a four person apartment right on campus.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to take my major catch up with my majors,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to take summer classes so I had

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<v Speaker 1>to be there all summer. Well, the only thing was

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<v Speaker 1>is they didn't let us stay in the one apartment

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<v Speaker 1>buildings over the summer because they close them. So I

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<v Speaker 1>had to find someone to live with. So I met

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, Dave was in my program and he was

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<v Speaker 1>about ten years older than I was, and he overheard

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<v Speaker 1>me talking to one of my friends and he said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I need a roommate this summer. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you check out my apartment and maybe you can stay

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<v Speaker 1>with me and we'll split the rent. So you know

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<v Speaker 1>how you are in college, you're just very laid back

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<v Speaker 1>and chill, and you're just ready for the next big thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're really focusing on your study, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>I like Dave. Dave seemed like a nice guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the apartment and he showed me where I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to sleep, so I was more than happy to

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<v Speaker 1>stay there for the summer. So school started for the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>which was pretty much the week after it ended because

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<v Speaker 1>we had trimesters. So I moved on in from one

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<v Speaker 1>apartment to the other, and I was so busy with

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<v Speaker 1>about a month of living there with him for the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>he said to me, you know, you really need to

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<v Speaker 1>take a break. Why don't you come with me and

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Dale. We're going to housewatch for a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of ours over the weekend. He's going to be gone

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<v Speaker 1>for a week. He's at a convention. So I said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. He talked me into it. So the three

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<v Speaker 1>this lake and we drove up to this cottage. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like a lake cottage kind of thing, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was more. It was the size of a house, but

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<v Speaker 1>a small house. And when we drove up, you could

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<v Speaker 1>see that they had done a lot of work on

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<v Speaker 1>And we pulled up, went in the house and they

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<v Speaker 1>started telling me these crazy stories about the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>whose house set is. And he said, this is our

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<v Speaker 1>friend Bill's house, and we're really close to him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>welcoming you to stay here with us, but we got

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you confidentially, he is not from here. He's

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<v Speaker 1>from a planet called Era. I started to like really

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<v Speaker 1>worry about that. I thought, oh my god, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are nuts, you know, and I'm alone with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have no car, no transportation to get away. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just so strange the stories they were telling me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just figured, you know what, I can't be

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<v Speaker 1>a nervous nellie or ned so I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 1>go with it. So I did, and I just acted cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And we got in the house and they were showing

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<v Speaker 1>me around, and they said, well, why don't you hang

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<v Speaker 1>out here and we'll go get dinner at the little

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<v Speaker 1>So I went into the living room and I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm like, Okay, I've got to really do

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<v Speaker 1>all that I experienced. I went through the bookshelves on

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<v Speaker 1>about and he looked the same, ageless. So we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>photos from like the sixties all the way to present time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought that was really odd. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>picked up another book and it was like a big

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<v Speaker 1>just stats of them, and they were prem drawings of children,

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<v Speaker 1>holy hands on the planet on Earth, you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>our planet. And then there were messages we love you,

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<v Speaker 1>these kids did. And then I found a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm rummaging through all this stuff quick before they

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<v Speaker 1>get back, because I'm just if I had a cell phone,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have taken pictures, but I didn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going down, you know, these shelves, and I

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<v Speaker 1>picked up I swear to God, now that I think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, it was almost like an iPad. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I opened it up, it glowed. That was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>when digitals just pretty much was rearing its head. The

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<v Speaker 1>only thing I could think of was light bright. It

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me of when you do the light bright and

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<v Speaker 1>it all glows, and so I was mesmized by this.

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<v Speaker 1>I put it back and then I looked over to

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<v Speaker 1>like a musical instrument, a combination between a musical instrument

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<v Speaker 1>and an exercise machine. So I was filling with this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had all these levers and it almost had

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<v Speaker 1>stood on that and you would maneuver it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you'd take this tool and hit these different almost they

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<v Speaker 1>almost looked like bells. But my memory is a little

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<v Speaker 1>foggy about how I operated this thing. But the more

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<v Speaker 1>a different, you know, frame of mind kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was almost like the power of music can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of take your mind away from you. Well that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what it felt like. So that was very

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<v Speaker 1>very meserrizing and weird. So after that, I looking around

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<v Speaker 1>the whole, the whole bottom floor of this house as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole, and I noticed there was a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>this woman in every room, the same woman. She had

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<v Speaker 1>like silver, big hair, really friendly looking. She had like

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<v Speaker 1>a Mona Lisa's smile, and her eyes followed you everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>you went. So as I'm looking at her, I heard

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<v Speaker 1>this giggle again. So I'm thinking, is this house paranormal haunted?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't even know what paranormal was back then.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just get everything I saw or did while

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<v Speaker 1>they were away. I was just totally creeped out. So

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<v Speaker 1>then the phone rings and I'm like, well should I

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<v Speaker 1>answer it? And I thought, well, I'm the only one here,

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<v Speaker 1>so I answered it, and it was the owner of

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<v Speaker 1>the house. It was Bill and he said, hey, Steven,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're here. I've been waiting to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you know, I'm always your friend. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want you to know that. And he said, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at a convention. I'm trying to help your God

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<v Speaker 1>with the cure for cancer, is what he said. And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, so they're really on me, and my house

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<v Speaker 1>is totally If you see a black on Mark car

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<v Speaker 1>pull up in the driveway, ignore it. That happens all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And just as he said that, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>out the kitchen window and there was it on Mark

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<v Speaker 1>black car right in the driveway. So then he's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about I swear he said something about the Galactic Federation,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the phone crackled it disconnected. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>standing there like, Okay, this is really weird. Just then

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<v Speaker 1>the guys drove up with the grocers that they come in,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told him what happened? Oh you you talked

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<v Speaker 1>to Bill. Oh yeah, he's great, you know, talking like

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of factly, really laid back. And so we're

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<v Speaker 1>standing in the kitchener while they're fixing dinner, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking and there was a paper with hieroglyphics that I

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<v Speaker 1>saw right out in the open, and the guys were

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<v Speaker 1>telling me, oh, yeah, this isn't something you should see,

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<v Speaker 1>and they took it away from me, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>am just such a At this point, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>so snoopy. I picked up this box that was by

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<v Speaker 1>the phone and I opened it up and there was

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<v Speaker 1>this big blue, kind of like large marble and I

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<v Speaker 1>was holding it, and you know, I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a bend Wa ball or something. You know, that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of kitchy back then. So I'm just tossing

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<v Speaker 1>it bagg and forth in my hand. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was. And Dave turns around and goes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not yours. I don't know why that's out there. Put

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<v Speaker 1>it down now. Yelled at me, that's Bills and it

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't been out in the open like that. So they

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<v Speaker 1>grab that from me and put it somewhere. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where they put it. But anyway, we had our

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<v Speaker 1>dinner and we were talking and talking about our lives

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<v Speaker 1>and future and everything, and I kept thinking, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are just not normal people. There was something magical about them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying in an evil way. They were evil.

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<v Speaker 1>They were magical like it was just bizarre. They only

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<v Speaker 1>had like one happy emotion and that was it. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know anything like, they never complained, they never bitched

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<v Speaker 1>or moaned as I was about all my hard work

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<v Speaker 1>and all. So anyway, we had our dinner, and oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they did tell me the blue marble was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the correlation to our first aid kit. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever had any illness or it didn't feel well,

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<v Speaker 1>you could pick up this crystal blue marble and it

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<v Speaker 1>had healing powers. So that's pretty much all I got

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<v Speaker 1>on that blue marble thing. But we had our pasta

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<v Speaker 1>and I kept thinking about, you know, these guys are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to surprise me later with something or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is, but I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to be mister cool. And we were watching a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a he had a laser disc player. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you remember a late laser disc but there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're the size of a record album. You

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<v Speaker 1>put it in the machine and play your movie. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're watching it was one of my favorite movies now,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Never Ending Story, which was so appropriate for

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. As we were watching the movie, a door

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<v Speaker 1>slammed upstairs, like really loud. It was a door slam

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, wow, what was that, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking at me smiling, and it slammed again, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it slammed again, and like four times in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>In a horror film, you know, you're always thinking, what

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<v Speaker 1>an idiot that guy is going to go up there

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<v Speaker 1>and look for what's making those door slams. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>did that. I went up the hair and looked all

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<v Speaker 1>three doors of the bedrooms upstairs were wide open. There

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<v Speaker 1>were no windows. All the windows were closed. So just

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<v Speaker 1>then I got the chills up and down my spine

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<v Speaker 1>and I started to run down the stairs. And as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm running down the stairs, an entity is running up

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<v Speaker 1>the stairs and literally almost knocked me over. So at

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<v Speaker 1>that point I'm like, what is going on? And Dave

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<v Speaker 1>and Dale just laughed and they said, oh, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>just Margaret. She was living in this house before Bill

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<v Speaker 1>and got sick, got very ill and passed, So don't

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<v Speaker 1>bother with her. You know she won't bother you. So

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm thinking, I just want to get the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of this place. You know. I was just I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty two, I think, so I was just not

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<v Speaker 1>really experienced doing things by myself or with other people

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<v Speaker 1>outside of my family and friends. So I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in that panic mode and I really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>want to just go home. And I thought, well, don't

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<v Speaker 1>be a baby, you know, we'll sleep over here tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>and then tomorrow morning asked for them to take you

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<v Speaker 1>back to the college. I first of all, I called

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<v Speaker 1>DIBs on the downstairs bedroom. I said, there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sleeping upstairs with those slaming doors. We went to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>and they went upstairs, and I went downstairs bedroom, and

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<v Speaker 1>I actually fell right to sleep. I don't know how,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did. And I woke up and I was

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<v Speaker 1>facing the wall by the window, and I woke up

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<v Speaker 1>with the curtains brushing on my face, like they have

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<v Speaker 1>these big, like long shears on the window. And I

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<v Speaker 1>opened my eyes and I'm like, the windows are closed

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<v Speaker 1>and these curtains are blowing on me, so I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in freak mode. And I turned to the other

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<v Speaker 1>side in the bed and I was going to put

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<v Speaker 1>the covers over my head, and their dog was standing

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<v Speaker 1>right next to my bed, staring me right in the

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<v Speaker 1>face without a sound. So at that quick second and

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<v Speaker 1>I blurted out of the biggest scream you could imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>and these guys came running down. What's wrong? What's wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? And I told him and they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looked at each other like I felt like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a baby. That's just how they made me feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not worthy of them. One of the guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, can you It was a big, huge bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, can you stay down here with me tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I really want to go home in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's what happened. I woke up in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and they took me home, and I really had

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<v Speaker 1>this feeling like you just didn't pass our test. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was so busy with schoolwork. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the semester, I never saw him again. I never

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<v Speaker 1>saw Dave again. I don't know what happened to him.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like he just disappeared, and I never really

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<v Speaker 1>thought about this incident until years later when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in grad school back at the same college, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to write a script for a play. So I decided, well,

419
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<v Speaker 1>why don't I write all my UFL experiences to, you know,

420
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<v Speaker 1>put them together in a storybook format. And then I

421
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<v Speaker 1>shelved it and it sat until just recently. And the

422
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<v Speaker 1>one other thing about that cottage was with all the

423
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<v Speaker 1>giggles and the weirdness, that when I was by myself

424
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<v Speaker 1>and found all those weird things, I went out on

425
00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the deck and sat out in the sun until they

426
00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:29.839
<v Speaker 1>came back. And I also wandered around the property a

427
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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and right on this big rock. They had

428
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<v Speaker 1>a creek in the backyard, and right on this enormous rock,

429
00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:38.920
<v Speaker 1>right in the middle of the creek, was this beautiful

430
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<v Speaker 1>crystal rock. That's the only thing I took from that experience,

431
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>but I took that with me and I put it

432
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<v Speaker 1>in my pocket, and I still have it to this day.

433
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<v Speaker 1>And I worked at a university right now that most

434
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<v Speaker 1>of my career has been at the university, and I

435
00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:56.759
<v Speaker 1>took that rock to the geology department and they said,

436
00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>we have no clue what this is. So I was

437
00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:04.079
<v Speaker 1>really kind of, you know, an interesting thing, especially with

438
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<v Speaker 1>the rock. And again clarification that rock was my clarification

439
00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that you know, just you know, I wasn't mistaken at

440
00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:17.279
<v Speaker 1>what my experience was. It was totally happening. It happened

441
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to me. So then after that, that was in eighty five,

442
00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and then after that life went on pretty normally. And

443
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty nine, I was working in the Hudson

444
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Lake region, like kind of Westchester Mount Kisco area, and

445
00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:39.039
<v Speaker 1>I worked at a supper club part time. So I

446
00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:43.519
<v Speaker 1>would work during the day as a designer and camp.

447
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I was on contract and I always wrote down my

448
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<v Speaker 1>miles so I knew how much gas I was using

449
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:53.079
<v Speaker 1>to get to and from work for taxes, and so

450
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<v Speaker 1>I worked at the supper club, so I had to

451
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<v Speaker 1>write my miuage down for that as well getting to

452
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<v Speaker 1>and from the supper club. So I it was a

453
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<v Speaker 1>ballet for the supper club and there were a lot

454
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<v Speaker 1>of famous people that came and performed there. It was

455
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>a fun job. So I parked the cars and Friday

456
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.559
<v Speaker 1>night I got when I got home from work. My

457
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.160
<v Speaker 1>friend Pete who I worked with there, he was a

458
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:17.079
<v Speaker 1>valet too. He called me and says, you got to

459
00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:20.319
<v Speaker 1>get up here. Richie Havens's playing tonight and I need

460
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you to help me park. So I said, well, I

461
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:25.119
<v Speaker 1>got to be home by midnight because my friend Charlie's

462
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>coming in from New York on the train and the

463
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:32.279
<v Speaker 1>train station is right near my apartment. So I went

464
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<v Speaker 1>up to the supper club work my shift and we

465
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<v Speaker 1>were done. I did not have one drink because I

466
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<v Speaker 1>was working. I get in my car at eleven thirty

467
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<v Speaker 1>to get back to my apartment by midnight. And I

468
00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>drove out of the parking lot at eleven thirty at

469
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.079
<v Speaker 1>night and the next time I know, I'm driving my

470
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<v Speaker 1>car around Mohegan Lake, and I didn't know it was

471
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Mohegan Lake. I didn't even know where I was, so

472
00:26:57.359 --> 00:26:59.599
<v Speaker 1>it took me a while to figure out where I was.

473
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<v Speaker 1>Back once and I was driving my car, so I

474
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>literally had like and it was like the sun coming up,

475
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.839
<v Speaker 1>So it was probably about five point thirty, and so

476
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I had this time lapse and I'm thinking, all right,

477
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm driving by car. What happened to me? I pulled

478
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:21.039
<v Speaker 1>over and I was just mesmerized in the sky because

479
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I pulled over and this was a windy road around

480
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>a lake, so it was really dark. I had to

481
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:30.079
<v Speaker 1>go to the bathroom so bad, but I couldn't. It

482
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>was I just couldn't go. Something was wrong there, if

483
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you get my drift. And so I got back in

484
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:39.799
<v Speaker 1>the car, and I was kind of flustered, but I

485
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:43.279
<v Speaker 1>was in a really good mood, and I really felt special,

486
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>like I experienced something I know I did. And I

487
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.359
<v Speaker 1>looked around my car. I was a smoker then, and

488
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:54.039
<v Speaker 1>my cigarettes were scattered all over the car. I found

489
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>my jacket that was ripped in half, my cassette I

490
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>had a cassette player, and the cassette tapes were all

491
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.200
<v Speaker 1>thrown around the car, and some of the tape was

492
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 1>pulled out. It was just like a tornado hit the

493
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>inside of my car, and I'm wondering what the heck happened.

494
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>So I'm driving around this lake road and it happened

495
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to be about forty well probably thirty miles away from

496
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:24.079
<v Speaker 1>where I started, if not more. I lived about thirty

497
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>miles away from the lake, so I was way over

498
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>where I had to be. I finally found my way

499
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.319
<v Speaker 1>back on the right track to get home to my apartment,

500
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.559
<v Speaker 1>and I think I finally got home around six thirty

501
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 1>or seven, and my roommate at the time, Annie, she

502
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:42.039
<v Speaker 1>greeted me at the door and she said, what the

503
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>hell happened to you? We were so worried about you.

504
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Your friend Charlie's up in your bed. We waited as

505
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>long as we could for you. You never called. And

506
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I told her the whole what happened to me, and

507
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.599
<v Speaker 1>she said, you're not going to believe this. Look at

508
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.799
<v Speaker 1>this book I'm reading, and it was Whitley Striver's Communion

509
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and it was right around that time that book came

510
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>out and it was the bestseller, I think. And so

511
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 1>she opens up the book and she opens to the

512
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:14.319
<v Speaker 1>section where Whitley has a time lap on Mohegan Lake.

513
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>So there's my clarification again for this story. And I'm thinking,

514
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 1>what the heck happened to me? So Annie goes, well,

515
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>let's look at you. You know, we were really open.

516
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:28.839
<v Speaker 1>I took off my pants and my shirt. She looked

517
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>at my whole body and she said, I don't really

518
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>see anything, but I felt this thing behind my ear.

519
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, what's this thing behind my ear?

520
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>It's never been there before. I'm still wondering what that

521
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>thing is behind my ear because it gets bigger and

522
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 1>smaller and bigger and smaller. I'd never talked to a

523
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 1>doctor about it or anything, but I did try to

524
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>get hypnotized, and I did it over the phone, and

525
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 1>the woman got me into that meditative date and I

526
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>just didn't like where it was going. So after an

527
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>hour of being hypnotized by her, I got out of

528
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 1>it and she said, no, did it work? And I

529
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>said to her, basically, I don't think it did. I said,

530
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 1>but I'll call you. We'll make another appointment, you know.

531
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 1>So I did make an appointment with her, and then

532
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I candled it later because after that I was hypnotized.

533
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I came downstairs and I was working on my computer.

534
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:26.759
<v Speaker 1>I have this little shelf right by the doorway. All

535
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, one of the items on the shelf,

536
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:31.799
<v Speaker 1>it was a box of hand cream or cream or

537
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:35.359
<v Speaker 1>something that I had come in the mail flew. It

538
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>did fall off the shelf. It flew across the room

539
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 1>and I said, what is the he out loud. And

540
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>then this little basket of stuff was sitting there that

541
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:50.119
<v Speaker 1>flew across the room like did not fall. It was

542
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 1>like it was thrown across the room. So that's one

543
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of the reason why I've never asked to be hypnotizing

544
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>or wanted to be hypnotized again. And after that, I

545
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>had some weird, shadowy things happen, and then uh, I

546
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 1>just prayed and you know, did the things I need

547
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:12.799
<v Speaker 1>to do to cleanse my spirit and my house. And

548
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>nothing has ever happened with that again, I think, thankfully.

549
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:26.559
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<v Speaker 6>This time it knew is the x x X.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the last thing and the reason why I

562
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>went back to the store to my journalized story, which

563
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.799
<v Speaker 1>which I'm kind of going by my notes right now.

564
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.559
<v Speaker 1>I was at the chiropractor, which is probably about a

565
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 1>thirty minute drive from where I live, and it was

566
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 1>just a random day in February. It was a winter day,

567
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:40.039
<v Speaker 1>so I was coming back from the chiropractor at around

568
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>five pm, so it was just about dark. I'm driving

569
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>on the highway and there was really not many people

570
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 1>out at that time. I don't know why. I guess

571
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>it must have been a I think it was a

572
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Saturday or a Friday or Saturdays. It must have been

573
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a Saturday, because he's open on Saturday, and Saturday is

574
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 1>not as busy and the winter, you know, on the highway.

575
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:04.480
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I and this guy's going really slow in

576
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 1>front of me, so I look to the left because

577
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.519
<v Speaker 1>I want to pass them, and I look up and

578
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:13.599
<v Speaker 1>where I am at the highway is kind of like

579
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:17.799
<v Speaker 1>a swampy area, kind of like a gully. So that's

580
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:20.799
<v Speaker 1>this gully area, and I'm looking left out my window

581
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:25.559
<v Speaker 1>to pass this guy, and I stop passing him. I

582
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>get back in the lane because I'm looking up at

583
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 1>the left at this huge five window. It almost looked

584
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>like a storefront, just floating there as clear as day,

585
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.079
<v Speaker 1>even though it's night. I mean, it was clearly there.

586
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>So I'm doing left to look at it, and then

587
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>forward because the slow guy's in front of me is

588
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.799
<v Speaker 1>obviously saying the same thing. So then I'm like, God,

589
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.559
<v Speaker 1>get a picture of this. Well, there was no shoulder,

590
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:55.960
<v Speaker 1>So while I'm driving and staring at this thing and

591
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>trying not get into a wreck, I'm trying to get

592
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>my phone out of my pocket so I can have

593
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 1>a picture of it. And just when I get my

594
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>phone up, this firefly thing comes out of nowhere and

595
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>lands right in the middle of this five windows ship

596
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:14.159
<v Speaker 1>and disappears. So I get home and I'm telling my

597
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>partner this and I'm like, you're not going to believe

598
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>what I saw, and I explained it to him. I said,

599
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:21.320
<v Speaker 1>wind the five huge storefront windows. It was like a

600
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>grocery store front with the five windows sitting there. Yet

601
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>there was no doorway. Obviously there were five big windows.

602
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 1>The rest of it was black, and I really couldn't

603
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>see many lights other than these five opaque windows, and

604
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.079
<v Speaker 1>you could tell there was some sort of activity going

605
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>on behind there, but you like, you couldn't see silhouettes

606
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of people or anything, or aliens or anything. So so

607
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling him that. And then I got on the

608
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:57.800
<v Speaker 1>computer and I searched highway driving five windows, opaque, big ship, YadA, YadA, YadA,

609
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking through, you know, my search, and I

610
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>get on this Reddit post and this guy is telling

611
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:06.079
<v Speaker 1>the same as the story that I experienced. He said,

612
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I was on the highway, I looked to my one

613
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>side and here's what I saw. I've opaque windows, and

614
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>he goes, and I did even did a sketch of it,

615
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>which I shared the sketch with you, Nick, And here's

616
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>this sketch of exactly identically what I saw. So again,

617
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that's like where my clarification comes into play. That clarified me.

618
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<v Speaker 1>What I saw is what I saw, you know kind

619
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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Those are my experiences, and I'll tell you

620
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>they were so memorable for me because they were so

621
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<v Speaker 1>out of the ordinary. And I think that's why most

622
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.719
<v Speaker 1>of your most people who have had these experiences can't

623
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>believe that they really truly experienced it. But if you

624
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 1>have some sort of clarification, I mean, you know, that's

625
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>all you need.

626
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 4>Good stuff. Steven, Wow, that's a lot of very strange

627
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:01.519
<v Speaker 4>you go going on in your life?

628
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, totally weird, you know. But the thing is,

629
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't let it drag me down. I just kept going,

630
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, kept on going.

631
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

632
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Indeed, yeah, you have provided a sketch for us. So

633
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:16.800
<v Speaker 4>this this five windowed object and what it does. Put

634
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.159
<v Speaker 4>that on the website so people can listen and then

635
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 4>certainly go check it out. Can you remember any details

636
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.480
<v Speaker 4>about this object other than the windows?

637
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:28.519
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was trying to really when I was

638
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>looking at it. You know, I'm an artist, so when

639
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I look at something unique, I really get just as

640
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 1>in my memory, almost like a photographic memory type thing,

641
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>just because of my training. I don't have a photographic memory,

642
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:47.039
<v Speaker 1>but you know what I saw was just what stood

643
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>up the most were these five almost like I could

644
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 1>compare it to you know, have you ever seen that

645
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 1>white plexiglass material and then there's a light behind it

646
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and it diffuses it. That's kind of what it looked like.

647
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>And then it was all black and bumpy. So in

648
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>the sketch you can see he was this thing was

649
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 1>I was under under it. This thing was not really high,

650
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:17.559
<v Speaker 1>but high enough where my visual angle was almost straight

651
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 1>on to it, so I really couldn't see much depth,

652
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>but those five windows were what stood out. And all

653
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:27.519
<v Speaker 1>I could think of is like when you drive up

654
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>to a grocery store, be just the big storefront windows.

655
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what it reminded me of. And it

656
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 1>was almost, I could almost say, it almost looked like

657
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>a hologram.

658
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.039
<v Speaker 4>And this was in an area where you traveled quite

659
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:44.679
<v Speaker 4>a bit around.

660
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It was right off you know, a main highway.

661
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>It goes east goes to New York City and west

662
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 1>goes to Elmira, New York or or we Go. And

663
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I was coming from the small town of a Weego

664
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>going home and it was between two exits that I

665
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>frequently drive, so you know, it just took that, oh,

666
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 1>I've got to get in this other lane and look

667
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.599
<v Speaker 1>to my left and there it was kind of thing.

668
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and that's how all my experiences happened. They

669
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:19.360
<v Speaker 1>just happened. You don't know whether they're gonna what it's

670
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be or sometimes you know, the very first

671
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>sighting I had was eating a sandwich in my kitchen

672
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 1>and then you compare that with, oh, I'm going with

673
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:34.199
<v Speaker 1>my roommate to someone's cottage, which you do, or you

674
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>go to a friend's and oh, good, well we'll stay

675
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:41.519
<v Speaker 1>at his house and stay overnight. And these guys that

676
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>were talking to me like they knew me so well

677
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:48.559
<v Speaker 1>and that I would understand what they're telling me about.

678
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>For some reason, it was just I can't even explain it.

679
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:57.039
<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I can tell when someone's lying

680
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.679
<v Speaker 1>or someone's not honest. You know, I pick up on that.

681
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm an mpath big time. These guys didn't have any personality,

682
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 1>they had one. It was just a one level thing,

683
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and I always thought that was strange. I think about

684
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it now. I looked him up on Facebook and I

685
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:18.320
<v Speaker 1>tried to find this guy, you know what, maybe I

686
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>could find it in somewhere, no record of him or anything.

687
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:24.639
<v Speaker 1>So and then the other experience that I had a

688
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Mohegan Lake and Whitley Streiber. I'm like I And it

689
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:31.679
<v Speaker 1>took years and years later I read more about Whitley

690
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Striber and I didn't really realize he had such a

691
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>connection with these aliens after a while, and so that

692
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:41.760
<v Speaker 1>really blew my mind. You know, I think I was

693
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>just chosen wrong time, wrong place, kind of thing or

694
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.880
<v Speaker 1>right place, you know, wrong time. I don't know, but

695
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you know it was this time laughs thing which was

696
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:57.159
<v Speaker 1>so freaking eerie because I was, like I said, I

697
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:58.679
<v Speaker 1>was driving my car.

698
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:01.679
<v Speaker 4>So you have by thirty mile away from where you.

699
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I forgot to say tell you about the

700
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Since I was contract worker, I kept track of my

701
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>mileage and there was no gas used. If I was

702
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.039
<v Speaker 1>driving around for five hours, I would have ran out

703
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 1>of gas.

704
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:21.280
<v Speaker 4>Thirty miles away, used no gas, and everything within your

705
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 4>car was kind of thrown around all over the place.

706
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, it was like, you know, I wanted a

707
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.519
<v Speaker 1>cigarette and there my cigarettes were not in the holder.

708
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:35.800
<v Speaker 1>There was a ripped open pack and then cigarettes all

709
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:40.280
<v Speaker 1>over the car my RiPP jacket. I mean, if I

710
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>had been attacked or something, I would remembered it and

711
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have been driving my car when I came

712
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>to kind of thing. And I forgot to add also,

713
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I know I was made to forget because I kept

714
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>thinking about Thanksgiving dinner. That's all I wanted was Thanksgiving,

715
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a big dinner. So when Annie checked me out and

716
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 1>was telling me about the Communion book, and she said,

717
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I think you were abducted, and I'm laughing, and I'm

718
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>like there's no way. And then after you think about

719
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:15.760
<v Speaker 1>what I experienced in that cottage, which was four years before,

720
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and then I thought, wow, something's going on. I don't know,

721
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:23.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, it just was mind blowing.

722
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.360
<v Speaker 4>So you think everything possibly could be connected.

723
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think so, I kind of do maybe. But

724
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the thing is is, I do have these recurring dreams

725
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>about me talking to a couple. It's a man and

726
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:44.599
<v Speaker 1>a woman, and we're standing in this hallway and it

727
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 1>all looks stainless steel. And the reason why I say

728
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 1>that is because my grandparents lived in a oh their

729
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>house was designed like especially for them in the I

730
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 1>think it was the fifties, and everything was really mod

731
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and their whole kitchen was stainless steel. And so that's

732
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>why I kind of correlate the stainless steel thing to that,

733
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>because it seemed like I was staying in a hallway

734
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>of stainless steel talking to this couple and I was

735
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:18.559
<v Speaker 1>saying to them, I can't believe we're here, and they

736
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:20.880
<v Speaker 1>we were both all three of us were shocked, like

737
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:25.480
<v Speaker 1>why how are we here? You know? And that's the dream,

738
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's very repetitive, and that's all. I have no

739
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 1>other memory of anything other than what I experienced while

740
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I was on the earth. But I really felt like

741
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:41.159
<v Speaker 1>after reading Whitley's book and then looking at some of

742
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:45.079
<v Speaker 1>his recent most recent material and reading about his secretary

743
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know, all that crazy stuff, it just I

744
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like so in tuned with him because what I

745
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:56.880
<v Speaker 1>experienced was so similar to his. And then I looked

746
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and there's like massive records of site in the Hudson region.

747
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty nine, Whitley lived on Mohegan Lake, and

748
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I had never really been to Mohegan Lake before, so

749
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it was just so choice.

750
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 4>And have you been back to Mohegan Lake, maybe have

751
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 4>a drive around.

752
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I haven't, but I really should do that. But I

753
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 1>did go back to where the cottage was, and I

754
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>couldn't find the cottage, unfortunately, because I went to where

755
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:29.039
<v Speaker 1>that was near where I went to school. So I

756
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>believe it was Victor, New York actually, and I can't

757
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.079
<v Speaker 1>remember the name of the lake, but I think it

758
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>was Honeyoay Lake, I think it was called. And you know,

759
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:45.559
<v Speaker 1>it's just your basic lake with cottages on it. And

760
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>so I drove around the whole lake and I tried

761
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.719
<v Speaker 1>to see if I could find where it was, but

762
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't driving obviously, so I didn't know where they

763
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>were going, which I think about that now and I'm like,

764
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe how daring I was because I barely

765
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.679
<v Speaker 1>knew these people and I got in the car with

766
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.599
<v Speaker 1>him and stayed with them in a weekend on this lake.

767
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, I guess I was pretty uh ballsy bit then,

768
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:11.800
<v Speaker 1>but it was just such a different different time.

769
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Of course, YE had the things you do when you

770
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.119
<v Speaker 4>were younger. I mean, yeah, sometimes when you go to

771
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:19.320
<v Speaker 4>these area, back to these areas, sometimes that can trigger

772
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 4>a memory or something.

773
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:22.880
<v Speaker 1>The one thing it did trigger was and this is

774
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 1>funny because it's so minute, when I was out on

775
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:29.079
<v Speaker 1>the deck, they took forever to get these groceries. It

776
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>seems like they were gone for over an hour. And

777
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>being so creeped out in the house, I finally went

778
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:36.760
<v Speaker 1>out on the deck and I was laying in the

779
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>sun for oh a good twenty so minutes, and I

780
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>was remembering how hot it was and I started feeling sunburned.

781
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:47.400
<v Speaker 1>So I walked to the creek and found this weird

782
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:51.679
<v Speaker 1>prehistoric gem rock and took that put it in my pocket,

783
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.119
<v Speaker 1>and then continued on and they came home and all

784
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 1>and those things happened. And then when I went back

785
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to class someone's on Monday. They said, wow, how did

786
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.119
<v Speaker 1>you get so much sun on your face? It rained

787
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:09.960
<v Speaker 1>all weekend here, And I remembered when I was sitting

788
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 1>in the sun. You know how when you're sitting in

789
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the sun, the clouds drift by and shat at you

790
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:19.320
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. You know, you're not in direct sunlight anymore. Well,

791
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.639
<v Speaker 1>there was an open circle right where the sun was

792
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:25.760
<v Speaker 1>shining down on me, and it stayed like that the

793
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 1>whole time I was out there. I thought that was

794
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.599
<v Speaker 1>so odd, and so I do remember that.

795
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:31.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

796
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 4>I just took a look at that lake. It's a

797
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 4>big old light.

798
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

799
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:34.679
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

800
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:36.199
<v Speaker 4>And I was going to ask if you did you

801
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 4>try and look up Bill, see if it was any

802
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:42.159
<v Speaker 4>record or you know, certainly what he's doing now.

803
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I never got his last name or anything, and

804
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:48.119
<v Speaker 1>damned if I know if his name really was Bill.

805
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>But I just remember him saying, and they were talking

806
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:54.400
<v Speaker 1>about this planet Era, and I think it was Ea.

807
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was strange because I go error and

808
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 1>they go, no, Era E R R A. And then

809
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I saw the sheet with the hieroglyphics and you know,

810
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and then that blue marble. And then then they said, well,

811
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.719
<v Speaker 1>we met him at a convention, and there was no

812
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:17.760
<v Speaker 1>real UFO conventions as much around the area I was in,

813
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 1>so they had met they and I can't remember all

814
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.639
<v Speaker 1>the conversation, which I wish I could, but they did

815
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:29.599
<v Speaker 1>say something about the galact Or Federation and they were

816
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 1>telling me a little bit about that, and they were

817
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:35.079
<v Speaker 1>really informative about stuff that really kind of flew over

818
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:39.639
<v Speaker 1>my head, you know a little bit. But just the

819
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>things I found in that house, especially the creepy lady

820
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 1>picture that looked like a hologram. It was the weirdest

821
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.119
<v Speaker 1>photo I had ever seen, like just sitting on a

822
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:54.079
<v Speaker 1>table like she was watching you. It was weird.

823
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:58.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Okay, if there's any listeners out there which live

824
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:01.800
<v Speaker 4>around the lake, anyoy in contact with maybe you knew

825
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 4>Bill or you've heard about Bill, or even if Bill's listening,

826
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 4>get in contact.

827
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Great idea. It's a beautiful area. It really is all

828
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:14.280
<v Speaker 1>throughout New York. It's just it's just so beautiful. And

829
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can be in one area like where

830
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I live, all Valley, and then you can be at

831
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the finger Lakes, and it's just especially during

832
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:24.400
<v Speaker 1>the fall, it's just gorgeous.

833
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:26.840
<v Speaker 4>I do get a little guests from there, including one

834
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:28.639
<v Speaker 4>of my episodes is called Watkins Glen.

835
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Watkins Glen. Yeah, that's really close here. Beautiful area, all gorgeous. Ataica,

836
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 1>New York, where Cornella is. I lived there briefly for

837
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a year, and I went to school in Rochester, so

838
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:47.559
<v Speaker 1>that was the Honeyway Lake. But then I worked after college.

839
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I had a job down in New York and I

840
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:53.280
<v Speaker 1>lived in White Plains, and then I lived in Mount

841
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Kisco and so I was always running around the whole

842
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Hudson Valley area. And the supper club that I worked

843
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:04.199
<v Speaker 1>in was north of where I lived, in a little

844
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>tiny town called Palling and just a really cool hip area.

845
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh and I went to and I forgot. I wanted

846
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:16.559
<v Speaker 1>to add this after I had the experience of the

847
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.239
<v Speaker 1>time lapse in New York when I was working there.

848
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.599
<v Speaker 1>After the supper club, when I had the time lapse,

849
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:26.400
<v Speaker 1>after I left, I went to a show and I

850
00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:30.360
<v Speaker 1>ran into this guy. It just was so ironic. It

851
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 1>just I ran into this guy and he had a

852
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:36.800
<v Speaker 1>UFO pin on and I go, oh, where did you

853
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:40.480
<v Speaker 1>get that pin? And he said I'd make them. And

854
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 1>he was at his car and and he showed me

855
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.320
<v Speaker 1>he had all of his pins, and he gave me one.

856
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I told him my brief synopsis of my experience, and

857
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>he had almost exactly the same experience as I did himself,

858
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and that's why he was drawn to make these pins.

859
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>So I got a pad from them. So there's so

860
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>many of us out there that have had these experiences

861
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:08.599
<v Speaker 1>that just haven't don't share, you know, it's random when

862
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:10.039
<v Speaker 1>they share, indeed.

863
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And there's all these little synchronistis that you you

864
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:14.480
<v Speaker 4>get throughout your life, don't you.

865
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh really for sure? And I think you know, I

866
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:22.079
<v Speaker 1>hold in these stories so much. And when you finally

867
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:26.840
<v Speaker 1>meet someone that has had either a similar experience or you,

868
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you totally feel that they're open to listening. It makes

869
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:31.519
<v Speaker 1>you feel good.

870
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:34.239
<v Speaker 4>No, of course it does. Yeah, when people listen, Yeah,

871
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.559
<v Speaker 4>that's always nice. And especially if it's a friend, can

872
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:39.559
<v Speaker 4>find a friend. Obviously not always the case, even though

873
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Speaker 4>they've known you for years. They might step back and

874
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:43.599
<v Speaker 4>kind of look at your funny.

875
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know what, you could tell me a

876
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>funny story about your dog, and I might look at

877
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you funny too, you know. So I think today it's

878
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 1>becoming more common to be able to open up about

879
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>these things because I listen to you, I listened to

880
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.239
<v Speaker 1>George Knapp, I listened to so many things, and I

881
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>was just listening to Linda Moulton Howe, and she's just amazing.

882
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:10.639
<v Speaker 1>She just is so into what's going on. It's just

883
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>mind blowing to hear her.

884
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:14.119
<v Speaker 4>She did a lot of great work, especially with the

885
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.440
<v Speaker 4>cattle mumulations years ago with strange harvest.

886
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then she's currently has a whistleblower on there

887
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:24.639
<v Speaker 1>and he's really his stories. It just makes you think,

888
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:28.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, if this guy can't be making up these stories,

889
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 1>they're just so to the point. And you're listening to

890
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.679
<v Speaker 1>Linda converse with back and forth with him, you know,

891
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:39.480
<v Speaker 1>on his experiences and mesmerizing, You're like, well, yeah, that

892
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:43.000
<v Speaker 1>totally makes sense coming from me have had my own

893
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:48.559
<v Speaker 1>experience in sightings. When you hear others with scientific backgrounds,

894
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:54.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, discussing myths, but they're really there's proof out there, you.

895
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:56.599
<v Speaker 4>Know, absolutely, And i'd have to catch ouver. I'm not

896
00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm not caught her YouTube channel in a while, but

897
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:02.599
<v Speaker 4>I'll definitely do that. So your last experience was back

898
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty. Have you had anything happen recently that

899
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:07.920
<v Speaker 4>you've noticed.

900
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>It was just that strange hypnotist thing was weird all

901
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.280
<v Speaker 1>during while she was working with me. It felt so

902
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to go the full route. I was

903
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:23.159
<v Speaker 1>afraid kind of. And then I had the paranormal thing

904
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:25.840
<v Speaker 1>of the things thrown across my room and I thought,

905
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm done. I'm not going to dive

906
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:31.800
<v Speaker 1>into this anymore than I should because it was so

907
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:35.679
<v Speaker 1>many years ago. And yeah, there's a reason why I'm

908
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:39.400
<v Speaker 1>not remembering. I feel that I can't remember. They made

909
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:41.760
<v Speaker 1>me to forget definitely how I feel.

910
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.559
<v Speaker 4>I believe the reason why a lot of us don't

911
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:48.199
<v Speaker 4>remember certain things is because your memory either blocks that

912
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.880
<v Speaker 4>I or your memories being blocked out for you. And

913
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:53.599
<v Speaker 4>I think for some people it's okay to dip your

914
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:57.960
<v Speaker 4>toe in the pool sometimes forevers they may not want

915
00:51:57.960 --> 00:51:58.960
<v Speaker 4>to get in completely.

916
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>No, you know, I had a friend of mine that

917
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:05.159
<v Speaker 1>actually the one that saw the same ship I did

918
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:08.280
<v Speaker 1>that one day out of the blue. She was coming

919
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>home from her job and I was going out, and

920
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:14.000
<v Speaker 1>we've discussed that before, and she goes, yeah, that was

921
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:16.159
<v Speaker 1>a real freaky thing, but I don't believe in that

922
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 1>frightens her, so she doesn't want to think about it.

923
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:21.960
<v Speaker 4>That's understandable. And a lot of people like that, even

924
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:24.440
<v Speaker 4>if they've had something happen, you know, they just want

925
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:26.280
<v Speaker 4>to stay completely indifferent from it.

926
00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I totally agree with that. But like I said,

927
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.519
<v Speaker 1>it's the clarification and the proof you get that is

928
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>mind boggling, because you know, finding the same the sketch

929
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:38.920
<v Speaker 1>of the same thing I saw that I wish I

930
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>could have taken a photo of. And then also the

931
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>clarification of you know, just some of the little things

932
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:49.239
<v Speaker 1>that happened to me at the cottage. And then there

933
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:52.800
<v Speaker 1>was another Oh, the thing behind my ear. I mean,

934
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I should really get that checked out. That is. I

935
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>had a doctor look at it once and he couldn't

936
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.400
<v Speaker 1>figure it out. But that was just in a check up.

937
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:05.360
<v Speaker 1>There's no mark or anything. It's just this nodule and

938
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:08.199
<v Speaker 1>it sometimes it goes away and sometimes then it comes

939
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:09.599
<v Speaker 1>back and it's right right now.

940
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:13.320
<v Speaker 4>It's big, so I don't know, And does it hurt

941
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 4>or anything.

942
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:18.440
<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't hurt. But I was watching, Oh, gosh,

943
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:20.679
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what it was, but it had something

944
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.360
<v Speaker 1>to do with people who have, you know, been abducted

945
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and they have these things removed from and they and

946
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.239
<v Speaker 1>they study them and they're like they can't figure out

947
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.119
<v Speaker 1>what material it's made out of, you know, kind of thing,

948
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:36.440
<v Speaker 1>which I think is you know, i'd rather not know,

949
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:39.199
<v Speaker 1>if you know, if it's not broke, don't fix it

950
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:39.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing.

951
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:43.920
<v Speaker 4>But of course, you know, if you know, if anyone

952
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:47.559
<v Speaker 4>out there, you know, does have a strange lump any sort,

953
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:50.880
<v Speaker 4>it's always good idea to get it checked out. Yeah,

954
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 4>whether it's the possibility of being alien or not.

955
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, i'll tell you. When I picked up that blue

956
00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:59.000
<v Speaker 1>marble that I thought was like, you know, a decorative thing,

957
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:02.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, well, this thing was I have never seen

958
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>anything as beautiful as this thing. And it was looked

959
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like a sapphire blue. And as I had it in

960
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:10.760
<v Speaker 1>my hand and I was juggling it back and forth

961
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:15.039
<v Speaker 1>like it was the toy thing, I felt the best

962
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I've ever felt before in my life. It was a

963
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.079
<v Speaker 1>strange surge of energy that I felt from this thing.

964
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And he went, Dave went to grab it from me,

965
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.039
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't want to give it back, you know,

966
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:30.199
<v Speaker 1>And but he did. He finally took it away, and

967
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:32.559
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of saddened that I had to give

968
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:35.239
<v Speaker 1>it up because it was such a cool thing. You know.

969
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Crystals were really a big thing back then, and I

970
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.599
<v Speaker 1>think I even had one around my neck. Do you

971
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:43.599
<v Speaker 1>remember the you know, the hippie crystals that we'd wear

972
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:44.719
<v Speaker 1>around our necks.

973
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:45.480
<v Speaker 6>The long one.

974
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:47.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

975
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:51.920
<v Speaker 4>My mother, she has always been mad into crystals, and

976
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.000
<v Speaker 4>even when I was younger, I'd wake up and I'd

977
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:56.079
<v Speaker 4>put my hands under the pillow and I'd find a

978
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:57.360
<v Speaker 4>crystal of some sort into that.

979
00:54:57.760 --> 00:54:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love it.

980
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:01.039
<v Speaker 4>She's not so bad these days, but yeah, all the

981
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:03.480
<v Speaker 4>time when we were younger, crystals everywhere. There would be

982
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:06.960
<v Speaker 4>amethice on the on the bookshelves, and you name it.

983
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:11.119
<v Speaker 1>I have a bit of a huge amethyst. Beautiful. But

984
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:13.639
<v Speaker 1>you know they can also absorb negative energy, so you

985
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:14.440
<v Speaker 1>gotta be careful.

986
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:17.719
<v Speaker 4>You'd have people going out to their crystal stores now

987
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.440
<v Speaker 4>and see if they can find any blue ball crystals.

988
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:24.400
<v Speaker 1>If you do, scarf it up, take it.

989
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:25.559
<v Speaker 4>For the healing energy. I think we could all do

990
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:27.079
<v Speaker 4>it sometimes.

991
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh, without a doubt. But the entity thing where I

992
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:35.199
<v Speaker 1>bumped into the entity that was It was just one

993
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:38.599
<v Speaker 1>thing after the next, ted tach Cottage. You know, he's

994
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:41.280
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. I look out the window after he

995
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:44.280
<v Speaker 1>said watch out for don't worry about the unmarked black cars,

996
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and there's one in the driveway. Thing. It was just

997
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:51.280
<v Speaker 1>so surreal the whole thing that it just boggles my

998
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:55.639
<v Speaker 1>mind even to this day, because you know, you'd think, ah,

999
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:58.840
<v Speaker 1>they were prank, and you well, that was a really

1000
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that would have had been a really killer prank because

1001
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 1>they would have had to fill those bookshelves with all

1002
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:09.719
<v Speaker 1>that weird stuff I saw, like the iPad thing and

1003
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:12.199
<v Speaker 1>then the musical instrument. When I was on that thing,

1004
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:15.760
<v Speaker 1>playing around with it, I felt like I felt almost

1005
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:18.480
<v Speaker 1>like I was in another realm, like I went to

1006
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:23.960
<v Speaker 1>another place. Just was also surreal. And one thing that

1007
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:26.079
<v Speaker 1>I didn't add and that I was in my that's

1008
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:30.159
<v Speaker 1>in my story, is but when my mother died, I

1009
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:32.880
<v Speaker 1>sat I played piano, and I sat down at the

1010
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:36.360
<v Speaker 1>piano and I turned my recorder on and I just

1011
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:41.239
<v Speaker 1>let myself. I thought of my mother, and this song

1012
00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:44.639
<v Speaker 1>came right out of me, didn't skip a beat or anything.

1013
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:46.679
<v Speaker 1>It just came right out of me. And it was beautiful.

1014
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:50.920
<v Speaker 1>And I played it for my mom's only sibling, her sister,

1015
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:54.239
<v Speaker 1>younger sister, and I said, and I told her what

1016
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I had done. I said, I just sat down at

1017
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.679
<v Speaker 1>the piano and I really was channeling my mom and

1018
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.320
<v Speaker 1>this is what came out. And I'm not a real

1019
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:05.920
<v Speaker 1>big songwriter or classical composer or anything, and she just

1020
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:11.559
<v Speaker 1>was floored. And I really think that, you know, when

1021
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>we're in turmoil and it's so emotional about losing someone

1022
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:21.119
<v Speaker 1>so intense and close to you, you can almost do anything.

1023
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:25.079
<v Speaker 1>And you know, music wise, I don't know. It just

1024
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:30.119
<v Speaker 1>came out so emotionally for me, and when I played

1025
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:34.280
<v Speaker 1>it back, it just really kind of just you know,

1026
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I just went to another time in another zone and

1027
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:40.800
<v Speaker 1>combine it in that three four minute piece.

1028
00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:44.400
<v Speaker 4>That's beautiful. I mean it was. It's the connection you

1029
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:45.599
<v Speaker 4>have with your mother, isn't it?

1030
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:45.880
<v Speaker 1>You know?

1031
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.960
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I think they do come through us

1032
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:51.320
<v Speaker 4>when they are gone. I don't think they ever really

1033
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:51.840
<v Speaker 4>leave us.

1034
00:57:52.119 --> 00:58:03.599
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1035
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1041
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1042
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.400
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I was going through stuff when my

1043
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:42.239
<v Speaker 1>mom died and I found this felt tip. It was

1044
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.480
<v Speaker 1>like a red felt tip marker I had used on

1045
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a stenel pad, and I drew this huge face and

1046
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:52.800
<v Speaker 1>it had huge eyes in it. And and I think

1047
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:54.599
<v Speaker 1>I must have been about four years old when I

1048
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:57.239
<v Speaker 1>drew that, so that I look at that now and

1049
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what made me draw the person with a

1050
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:05.119
<v Speaker 1>huge head, a small body and huge eyes and pupils

1051
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:08.079
<v Speaker 1>filled in pupils. It was just bizarre, you know. And

1052
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:12.039
<v Speaker 1>so I think of weird little things through my childhood,

1053
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.039
<v Speaker 1>and you know, kind of come into play with what

1054
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:18.079
<v Speaker 1>I've experienced. I got. It's hard to express.

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00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:21.599
<v Speaker 4>But then you say that actually, because this had to

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00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 4>be probably in the This was in the early nineties

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00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:28.920
<v Speaker 4>when I was reading Whitley Strieber's Communion and I had

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00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:32.840
<v Speaker 4>left it on the kitchen table and my mother was

1059
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:37.000
<v Speaker 4>doing She's potting around doing stuff, and on passing the book,

1060
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:40.320
<v Speaker 4>she just tapped the top of the book. You know,

1061
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:43.559
<v Speaker 4>it's got that iconic alien image on there, and she

1062
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:45.840
<v Speaker 4>just tapped the book and said, oh, I used to

1063
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:49.440
<v Speaker 4>draw them, and then she just carried on about her day.

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00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, it isn't that funny. Yeah, And you

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00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:56.559
<v Speaker 1>know Whitley's book, that was one of the first books,

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00:59:56.719 --> 01:00:01.119
<v Speaker 1>well the first book with an alien gray image on it.

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01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:04.760
<v Speaker 4>That's all right. And it just so happened that my

1068
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:07.000
<v Speaker 4>parents split up in back in the seventies. But it

1069
01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:09.719
<v Speaker 4>just so happened that at the time when I had

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01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:13.760
<v Speaker 4>finished reading that book, I actually wrote a letter to Whitley.

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01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:18.079
<v Speaker 4>So this is this is early nineties about my father's

1072
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:21.639
<v Speaker 4>experiences because he had had abduction experiences throughout his life.

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01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.239
<v Speaker 4>So I had written to Whitley and i'd got it

1074
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:28.320
<v Speaker 4>was a printed letter about thank you that we received

1075
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:31.079
<v Speaker 4>all this and now we've inputted it into what they

1076
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:33.880
<v Speaker 4>called what he called at the time as the Communion Foundation,

1077
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.719
<v Speaker 4>which apparently was a few scientists. And I actually still

1078
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:42.199
<v Speaker 4>have that letter still in the book. I don't think

1079
01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:44.239
<v Speaker 4>it's the original book I had, but it's still in

1080
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:46.960
<v Speaker 4>the books somewhere folded up the old original letter.

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01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's mentally exhausted over all of this stuff

1082
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:55.519
<v Speaker 1>sometimes because it does zapple out of energy, out of

1083
01:00:55.880 --> 01:01:00.079
<v Speaker 1>just just you know, thinking about it constantly and so well,

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01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 1>that's why I kind of had to step away from

1085
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:05.239
<v Speaker 1>all this for so many years. It's just now that

1086
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it's so exposed. I think that's what makes people more

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01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:13.159
<v Speaker 1>comfortable to express their you know, major experiences or you know,

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01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:17.320
<v Speaker 1>numerous experiences they've had throughout their life, especially people my age.

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01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:21.079
<v Speaker 1>That's what I like about your podcast is that it's

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01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:22.000
<v Speaker 1>everyday people.

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01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:24.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I may try and have Whitley on them.

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01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you got to tell them to listen

1093
01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:29.719
<v Speaker 1>into this because it was I was at this Town

1094
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Crier supper club where I vallet parked cars for a

1095
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:37.519
<v Speaker 1>brief time period because my friend he asked me if

1096
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:39.559
<v Speaker 1>I would, you know, work with him for a while,

1097
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I worked for the owner, and you know,

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01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.880
<v Speaker 1>it was just such a fun little job and we

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01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:48.000
<v Speaker 1>got to watch all the music and then part and

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01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:49.800
<v Speaker 1>then we'd get their cars and that would be the

1101
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:51.880
<v Speaker 1>end of the night. So you're talking like, you know,

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01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:57.119
<v Speaker 1>seven to ten supper and music so usually I was

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01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:00.960
<v Speaker 1>done around eleven or eleven thirty, and so when you

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01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.480
<v Speaker 1>go out of the parking lot of this town Crier,

1105
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you're like right on the highway. So the only thing

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01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I remember is driving up the ramp to get to

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01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:17.039
<v Speaker 1>the highway. And then I woke up driving on Mohegan

1108
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Lake and when I pulled over, I had to go

1109
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:24.079
<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom so bad, so there was no way

1110
01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I was going to the bathroom. So I thought, well,

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01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that's not going to work. So I got back in

1112
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:33.000
<v Speaker 1>the car, looked for a smoke, and that's when I

1113
01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:36.440
<v Speaker 1>realized all my stuff was scattered around. And then I

1114
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:40.119
<v Speaker 1>finally found the Titanic Highway off of Mohegan Lake and

1115
01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:42.559
<v Speaker 1>I was able to find my way back home. But

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01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the next morning Annie was said, you got to check

1117
01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:51.119
<v Speaker 1>your gas mileage because I know you write it down,

1118
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:56.079
<v Speaker 1>and so I had written down the mileage for when

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01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I left my apartment to get to the supper club,

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01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:02.639
<v Speaker 1>and that's all I had written. So we looked at

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01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the mileage and subtracted it, and there it was. There

1122
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:10.639
<v Speaker 1>was no mileage. So that's what was, you know, kind

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01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:14.760
<v Speaker 1>of the clarification on that one. It's something you know,

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01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:15.480
<v Speaker 1>time lapse.

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01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:18.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a strange one, all right, interesting.

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01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:19.199
<v Speaker 1>It really is.

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01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:22.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, certainly, do let us know if anything happens

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01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:27.000
<v Speaker 4>or if maybe you know, you cross paths with Bill again.

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01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:30.239
<v Speaker 4>I'd be interesting to know if he's still here or

1130
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:33.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe he's gone back to was it planet era?

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01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:37.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Era? Well, the oh, I just I just can

1132
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:40.079
<v Speaker 1>see it in my mind, you know, the pictures, the

1133
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:42.800
<v Speaker 1>picture book. When I opened up that book of photos

1134
01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:48.000
<v Speaker 1>of him, he looked so nice and friendly and very handsome.

1135
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:54.639
<v Speaker 1>And from nineteen fifties to current time, then eighties, he

1136
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:59.360
<v Speaker 1>looked exactly the same, so that I remembered, you know,

1137
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:01.840
<v Speaker 1>it stood out out to me because you know, I'm

1138
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:04.719
<v Speaker 1>a big I'm a photographer and you know, more for

1139
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:08.239
<v Speaker 1>fun and also some for work, and so you know,

1140
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm looking at, and you know, you

1141
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:14.559
<v Speaker 1>can tell, you know, age progression. So from the old

1142
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:18.440
<v Speaker 1>photos in the front to the newer photos in the back,

1143
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:21.719
<v Speaker 1>same person, there was no no age difference.

1144
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:23.639
<v Speaker 4>I think we could all do with a bit of

1145
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:24.400
<v Speaker 4>what Bill's gone.

1146
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I know, And I feel like an idiot because I

1147
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:30.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't pass his test. I wish I did, because if

1148
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I did, maybe i'd know more, you know, obviously I would,

1149
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:39.760
<v Speaker 1>but he the way he acted like Dave and his

1150
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:45.400
<v Speaker 1>friend Dale, real friendly, never got upset to you know,

1151
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:47.119
<v Speaker 1>like when I was talking to him on the phone,

1152
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:51.000
<v Speaker 1>he was a one tone, happy, nice person, and he

1153
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:53.280
<v Speaker 1>said he even told me on the phone, you know

1154
01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:56.440
<v Speaker 1>where he's from, and the like he knew me had

1155
01:04:56.599 --> 01:05:00.719
<v Speaker 1>or he had known me. And the other thing that

1156
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I might want to add is the fact that I

1157
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:06.199
<v Speaker 1>have RH negative blood and I don't know if you're

1158
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:09.920
<v Speaker 1>familiar with OURGE negative. I'm a negative and there's a

1159
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:14.440
<v Speaker 1>percentage and if you're RH negative or a negative blood type,

1160
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:19.320
<v Speaker 1>they can't distinguish a small percentage of your blood type.

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01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Where it comes from.

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01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:22.880
<v Speaker 4>The plot thickens the plot does.

1163
01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:26.599
<v Speaker 1>Thicke it because they say most artists and creative people

1164
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:28.360
<v Speaker 1>are RH negative blood type.

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01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:31.079
<v Speaker 4>A had several guests on that I've said the same thing. Yeah,

1166
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:33.679
<v Speaker 4>but you know, if if these two guys that you

1167
01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:37.440
<v Speaker 4>went away with that weekend, if they were playing a

1168
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:41.119
<v Speaker 4>joke on you, then they didn't break character all weekend,

1169
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:43.079
<v Speaker 4>And like you said, you know, yeah, there's all this

1170
01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:47.320
<v Speaker 4>stuff around around the cottage, and so it's very strange.

1171
01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:49.760
<v Speaker 4>Of course, you know now and again, you know, meet

1172
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:52.679
<v Speaker 4>someone that claims to be from another planet. I think

1173
01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:56.400
<v Speaker 4>that happens now and again. But also we do meet

1174
01:05:56.559 --> 01:06:01.039
<v Speaker 4>some very strange individuals that could quite possibly be from

1175
01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:01.679
<v Speaker 4>somewhere else.

1176
01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you had someone on how he met a beautiful

1177
01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:09.039
<v Speaker 1>was absolutely gorgeous and wanted him to come with her

1178
01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:12.400
<v Speaker 1>and told him she was alien and that he could

1179
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.920
<v Speaker 1>come with her. And I found that fascinating because I

1180
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.760
<v Speaker 1>really could identify with what he was saying, because when

1181
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you look in their eyes, you're like thinking, they're just

1182
01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:25.159
<v Speaker 1>not like us. So that's what made me think that

1183
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Dave and Dale are like Bill and they were blending

1184
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:34.199
<v Speaker 1>into society. And then see, he was older than I was,

1185
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was kind of odd that he

1186
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:40.760
<v Speaker 1>just jumped up to and said you can stay with

1187
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:46.000
<v Speaker 1>me kind of thing. And he really was a very

1188
01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:50.280
<v Speaker 1>warm person and caring. I never saw him in a

1189
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:52.599
<v Speaker 1>bad mood. I mean I wasn't really paying attention to

1190
01:06:52.679 --> 01:06:55.679
<v Speaker 1>him because I was just rooming with him. But he became,

1191
01:06:56.840 --> 01:06:59.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of like a close friend while I

1192
01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:02.440
<v Speaker 1>was rooming with him, and he tried to be, you know,

1193
01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:05.360
<v Speaker 1>make my life better because I was so stressed from

1194
01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:10.039
<v Speaker 1>all my school work, and you know, and then summer

1195
01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:12.760
<v Speaker 1>just flies by, and then the next thing, I know,

1196
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I moved back home for the rest of the summer vacation.

1197
01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I was only living with him for like as long

1198
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:22.519
<v Speaker 1>as my course work was, which I think was like

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01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:24.800
<v Speaker 1>a month and a half in the summer, you know.

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01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And then I went to look for him because he

1201
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:32.880
<v Speaker 1>was going to stay in the same apartment for the

1202
01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:34.960
<v Speaker 1>fall semester. And I went to look for him and

1203
01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:37.880
<v Speaker 1>he was nowhere to be found. I thought that was

1204
01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:38.559
<v Speaker 1>really odd.

1205
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:41.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just another odd kink in the chain, isn't it.

1206
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah. And you know, it's funny because

1207
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:48.280
<v Speaker 1>those little like you said, you know, you write something

1208
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:51.280
<v Speaker 1>down and then you think of three days later, you think, oh,

1209
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:54.320
<v Speaker 1>remember that, and you write that one down, and you know,

1210
01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:56.599
<v Speaker 1>so it was kind of that that kind of thing

1211
01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:01.440
<v Speaker 1>with the small little idiosyncrast that I experienced as well,

1212
01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like the little giggles that I kept hearing, the cloud

1213
01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:09.519
<v Speaker 1>formation and the rock and those were all just little

1214
01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:14.519
<v Speaker 1>things compiled. And you know, normally I can't remember what

1215
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I had for breakfast two days ago, or you know,

1216
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:21.720
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. Yet that weekend was so indelible.

1217
01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I was also twenty two. I was also twenty two,

1218
01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:27.960
<v Speaker 1>so my mind was a lot sharper than so in

1219
01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:33.000
<v Speaker 1>my mind's eye, that weekend at the cottage was so

1220
01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:36.960
<v Speaker 1>significant because it was so out of this world. I

1221
01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:42.159
<v Speaker 1>could not pick up on anything. Like I got to

1222
01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:45.039
<v Speaker 1>the point where I just stopped saying, Oh, you're joking.

1223
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're joking, you know, because that was me the

1224
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:50.640
<v Speaker 1>all beginning of the time I spent with them.

1225
01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:52.119
<v Speaker 4>They didn't break character.

1226
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:55.920
<v Speaker 1>No, there was no character to break. It was weird

1227
01:08:56.520 --> 01:09:01.039
<v Speaker 1>like they were so just one move. I can't even

1228
01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:04.439
<v Speaker 1>describe it. It was just so like almost robotic in

1229
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:05.199
<v Speaker 1>a weird way.

1230
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:08.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Steven, I really appreciate you coming on sharing that

1231
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:09.680
<v Speaker 4>for our listeners.

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01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh it was wonderful. Thank you so much. It was great.

1233
01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:16.199
<v Speaker 4>It was wonderful to meet you. Okay, keep in contact

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01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:17.760
<v Speaker 4>all right, and we will speak soon.

1235
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I will do next. Thank you so much. I have

1236
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:21.319
<v Speaker 1>a great time, no problem.

1237
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:22.840
<v Speaker 4>Take care and buy for now.

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01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Stephen, bye bye. Now.

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01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:27.520
<v Speaker 4>Well that is all for this week. Keep updated and

1240
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:31.000
<v Speaker 4>connect you with the show on x Facebook and Instagram,

1241
01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:32.920
<v Speaker 4>And if you have an encounter that you'd like to

1242
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:36.600
<v Speaker 4>share on the podcast, You can email me at UFO

1243
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:40.359
<v Speaker 4>Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can reach out

1244
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:43.640
<v Speaker 4>to me via the contact page on my website UFO

1245
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:47.479
<v Speaker 4>Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank you to Steven

1246
01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:50.760
<v Speaker 4>for sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. I

1247
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:54.840
<v Speaker 4>will be back next week. Till then, stay safe and

1248
01:09:54.960 --> 01:10:23.640
<v Speaker 4>keep watching the skies. Goodbye, s
