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Speaker 1: And nine. Ignition Ship five four three two one zero

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for

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Ignition With the aw Fanhub podcast team, we just had

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one heck of a weekend of professional wrestling, and we

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also had WrestleMania nights one and two. Uh, the Stardom Show,

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the American Dream. My god, was it great. I gotta

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tell you if you're not watching those shows. I mean,

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the cool thing about WrestleMania weekend to me, guys, and

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I don't know if you agree with me on this

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is that all the indie shows and all the other

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shows that have shows on those WrestleMania weekends, do you

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like those? Do you watch those other shows?

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Speaker 3: Definitely a great did you get as a sea Sandman

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retire and fully came out and.

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Speaker 4: Squashed the invisible Man for him?

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Speaker 2: The visible man was toast Man. Mister Soko just killed

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the guy. But anyway, let's get on with the show

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because we got a lot to talk about tonight.

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Speaker 5: This is Kelson and this is Barry in the news fronts.

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The members of the design team behind AW merchandise were

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let go as part of Pro Wrestling Te's relationship with AAW,

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which has led to some consternation on Reddit. If you

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want to head to the next slide there. Kelson and

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a lot of people took that and ran with it

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and came up with conspiracies enough that Pro Wrestling Teas

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issued an official statement that said, the person who made

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the Reddit post circulating has no knowledge of our business.

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Nothing on that post is true except that we unfortunately

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told some of our contracted designers we would not need

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them for as many AW designs anymore. Some of the

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AW designers are still contract nothing has changed, and otherwise

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we are still fulfilling the merchandise for AW. So hopefully

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that clears up some of the confusion. It's been a

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little bit of drama to day on the news front,

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but all things considered, I hope wish the best eluct

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to all the artists and hope they continue to find

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work elsewhere.

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Speaker 6: Hey, everybody, this is Chris. It's a little bit of fun,

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silly news. Chris Jericho has trade mark the guy who

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gets his ass feat by the demand every week that

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he shows up. Never changed, Chris Jericho, never changed.

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Speaker 7: Hi, this is Valerie.

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Speaker 8: So a w is reportedly set to run redemption between

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Forbidden Door in June and August with all in my

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two favorite pay per views, Let's go Chris.

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Speaker 6: There again and more fun news after Tony Kahn tweets

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a w is where the best wrestle after wrestle Mania

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forty two Night one ends? And I think we cannot agree.

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He is right?

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Speaker 4: What's going on at your boys? UMG?

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Speaker 3: Shane DAW's Double or Nothing has sold over eleven thousand

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tickets for those that don't know. That's at the Louis

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Armstrong Stadium up in New York and they have a

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capacity around fourteen thousand. And only one match has been

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announced for this card, and it's a pretty important one

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if you guys are paying attention. There's a lot of

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riffs between Kenoski Takesha and Kazuchka Okada and we're finally

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getting to see them square off for the aw International Championship.

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I think this is gonna be a really great match.

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There's a lot of implications for the Don Kallis family

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faction and what you know, the direction that they're gonna

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be headed in moving forward after this match? You know,

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is Don Kallas gonna turn on Oca? I don't see

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him to really turning on Okata. To be fair, I

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mean like Ocat is a bigger presence in the don

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Kallis family and it seems like Takesha is kind of

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hitting a redemption arc. That's my opinion. You know, I

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think the match is going to be absolutely solid. Ta

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right now in terms of the men in my opinion,

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and I think we're gonna get a real slob knocker

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Speaker 4: Boys, what do you think? Boys and girls? Excuse me?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, look, let me I want to ask a

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question on top of that, because do you really think

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that don Kallas is going to turn on either or

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turn on Ta Kesta. Yeah, of course and and and

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going to turn on Ta Keshta before the pay per view,

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Speaker 4: Do you think.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely think that Takeshta will be in the don

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Kallis family after double or Nothing and Okada will be gone.

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Speaker 7: You're going to see.

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Speaker 3: I fantasy booked that a little bit differently, good Chris.

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Speaker 6: I say, we might see the return of crazy red

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Speaker 3: Oh man, we could only be so lucky. I mean,

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in my fantasy pro wrestling world. You know, there's been

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a lot of build up for Takesha actually leaving the family,

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and there are a lot of people with a lot

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of history with Okata in the men's division right now,

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that seemingly, you know, could be an issue. You know, obviously,

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Kenny Omega on the back of his loss, could be

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his next big move, could be Okada, being that that's

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one of his biggest rivalries, grabbing the low hanging fruit.

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able to go after the big one again, if not

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indefinitely for a very long time. You know, I could

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see Taqusha with the bucks again. I could see that.

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I could see him on his own because he really

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can't stand on his own. He was doing a really

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good job before the don Kellis family. Anyone else got

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anything different on.

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Speaker 6: That crazy idea. Well als pray as trademark United Empire.

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What if he starts building an a W version of

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it because it's the New Japan, guys can't be there

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full time, and you know Osprey knows all about how

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much of a bastard Don Catalys is. What if he

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welcomed ta Questa because they've been through the heat of

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battle and osbreak and see Taiqusta is the kind of

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guy who he won't whin I'm fighting dirty, but he

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doesn't fight to cowardly multiple people. You know, he doesn't

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like that kind of craft.

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Speaker 3: I want to expand on the Osprey thing and then

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pass on talking for a couple of seconds. There was

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a rift between New Japan and AW earlier in this

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year over the use of the bull club again in AEW.

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a thing. I think that Japan is giving AW permissions

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for United Empire as a segue into Forbidden Door. I

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know he just trademarked that, so it'd be cool to

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see them expand that outward. I cannot see you, I mean, like,

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who who in a W? You know Mark Davis and

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Kyle Flusher are both with Don Calisos were his big

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you know, United Empire guys in aw I have a

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hard time believing that we're going to get an immediate

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lift off the ground of that.

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Speaker 6: Well one interesting thing in New Japan Andrave is part

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Speaker 4: He's it but in America.

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Speaker 6: But you look at how he's been acting, you know,

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him shaking Darby's hand, him not being happy with Don Kallas.

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Could he could easily break off and he's getting the

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tears and he does. He wouldn't really have to change

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anything to wrestle as a face because he's got that

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swagger and everything.

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Speaker 9: We're getting away off topic, you know, but I want

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to go to I want to go to let's go

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to Tucci.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Chi. You've not done with us before, so

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I'm I'm interested to hear what you have to say.

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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, longtime listener. We can't get the implications of

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the rest of the family. We have andreda that's been

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boiling over this, this use of the don KALs family

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by MJF. We have Kyle Fletcher, who you know, who

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knows how that story goes. But it definitely was headed

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in the direction of a decision he had to make

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as well. So I don't think this ends at Double

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or nothing. Whatever happens, I think it's only going to

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get deeper.

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Speaker 2: It's a good I kind of have to agree with you.

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Let's go to Valerie, Valerie. I know that you and

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there's Conrad. Welcome Conrad, but Valerie, let's uh, let's go.

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Let's see you're hearing.

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Speaker 11: I'm kind of torn because I said last week that

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I wanted to catch out of the Don Calli's family

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for months and months and months, and I think that

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he will be out at Double and that thing because

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if you remember, way way back when the don Callis

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family was born, after John turned on Kenny and align

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himself with Takeshta, he said that he was like his son,

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the son he never has. He had the saying, oh

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he's better than you, Okay Benner, than Tanahashi, and then

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he used the same same lines with Okada. So I

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believe that he will stick with Okada because Okada is

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like the big star in Japan and he.

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Speaker 5: Now is with a W.

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Speaker 11: So I think, I think, and I feel very strongly

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about this, that Okada will stay with the don Kallas

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family and Takeshta will be out.

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Speaker 2: Barry before you start, Conrad, we're getting a message you

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have some connectivity issues, and it says for you to

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to go off and come back without trying to use

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your camera. Berry. That's here what we have to say.

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But I got nothing, You've got nothing?

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Speaker 1: Is he?

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Speaker 4: Are you sick? You do? Feeling okay over there?

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Speaker 7: But yeah, well.

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Speaker 6: Nailed it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah short.

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Speaker 5: I think I think, uh, this is all going to

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boil down to Don needing to make a choice, and

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the whole match is going to be centered on who's

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who's Don going to pick? And I think everybody everybody's

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kind of seeing that in their head. The screwdriver is

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going to come into play here. I think he's gonna,

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to your point, Kelson, he's going to act like he's

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gonna help somebody, and he's going to swerve to the

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other one. I don't know who's going to be okada daqushaa.

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Takesha and Max is still open and unfinished. I do

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think that's going to play in so I I honestly

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to go over, or I'm assuming he's gonna go over,

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they could they could swerve and go in a fresh direction,

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do the unexpected. You can still get to the same

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens leading

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up the double or nothing. There's gonna be probably some

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attention to it. I want to move on now. This

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isn't really a discussion topic, but I just want to

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let you guys know if you haven't seen it, that

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AAW did produce and post another video in there. Everything

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you need to Know about AW series, I guess is

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the best way of putting it. And this one is

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called Everything you Need to Know About Darby Allen. It's

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on YouTube. Go give it a look. And speaking of

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Darby Allen, on Dynamite, tomorrow night, we're gonna hear from

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the AW World Champion Darby Allen. We are going to

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also see him in a match, and we'll talk about

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that match a little bit later. But the question that

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has been brought up many times throughout the internet is

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Darby Allen the man that Awn needs to be have

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in the in the world championship scene right now? What

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do you guys think Is he the right guy as

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world champion?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: He absolutely is.

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it's a breath of fresh air from everybody who has

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had it before, who keeps on getting it back. So

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they need some fresh young talent and the fresh face,

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and he brings something that a lot of people don't.

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but I think it's what he They need right now

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for a little bit, not for a long term.

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I see what you're saying. Anybody else went

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any thoughts on Darby Allen is the world Champion?

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Speaker 11: I didn't.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I'm just gonna go with Rick last week, I.

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Speaker 11: Said, MJF. But I didn't expect Darby to go that quick,

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the match being that quick and under like what five

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six minutes? So, but I got a hunch when I

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saw Dolby walking down the rocking down and kissing his family.

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I said, oh, he's winning, and I was like, Yep,

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it's happening. When he did the cuffin drop and like

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four times I said, Okay, it's done. So I'm happy,

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But in a way I'm not because of the match

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that MJF had with Kenny at Dynasty and Kenny not

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winning it and Darby winning it after.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I get that point, Valerie. It does seem

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kind of suspect because I think most people would say

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that Kenny Obega has the more stellar career than Darby

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has had.

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Speaker 11: To be far to Darby, he used exactly the same

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thing that MGF did to Kenny at Dynasty. Because I

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watched the match back and because where I was sitting,

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I couldn't see very well. So I watched the end

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of the match and I knew that MGF did something,

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but I didn't know what. And I watched it again

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and then I saw what he did and was like, okay, Darby,

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like he's doing the same thing that MJF did to Kenny,

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And now I got it.

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Speaker 2: All right, Tunci, you were gonna speak and let's hear

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what your thoughts are.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So I love Darby Allen's character. I love what

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he does. The biggest thing that I feel plays against

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him is his continued in ring story of beat up,

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beat up, beat up, roll up win.

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Speaker 13: Now.

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Speaker 10: I think what he did with Osprey in the Continental

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Classic two years ago, that's a match I want to

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see from him, and that's a match that I think

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would keep him world champion. Otherwise, I do see him

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as I guess, sort of transitional. But you know, I

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think he has it in him. I want to see it.

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Speaker 2: Conrad Adam, I'm dying to hear what you have to

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say about Darby Allen is here. He's muted.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 13: I mean the Russians got him. Yep, I'm good. I'm back,

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I'm back, I'm free. Uh. The Darby Allen situation is

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interesting to me. I couldn't believe like the discourse I

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saw online about it, a little bit like people not

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getting it. But it could be bad faith. But Darby

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Allen I view as a Jeff Hardy Mick Foley hybrid.

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Those guys never had really long title reigns. I don't

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expect this to go too long. It's kind of a

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feel good moment and Darby's usually better on the chase anyway,

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So I'm okay with this. It's rewarding a talent who's

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an original, who stuck by what he wanted to do

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and did it his way.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Shane, Yeah, you know, I wanted to comment

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on the Kenny thing in terms of the story that

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was being told. You know, they painted Kenny as you know,

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the guy that can't get there anymore because of a

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permanent injury. You know, it's no surprise that the indestructible

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man that just went up to Mount Athem was in

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Mount Alverna, my old job, Mount Everest, and and and

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planted the a W flag up there like the company guy,

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the guy that doesn't look like the company guys, the

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company guy force that they gave him this opportunity.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 3: And though I don't agree with the idea that the

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mattress contrive, you know, I do think that you know,

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the the quickness and and the surprise had served it

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serves a purpose. I also I also agree with Conrad

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on the panel that this is going to be a

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transitional thing, not that I wanted to be. I think

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he could, you know, carry the belt respectfully and for

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a long time. But I'm not sure if he's all

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you know he's He's made it clear in the character

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I'm I'm not. I don't need this. It's just a

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you know, it's just a trophy, you know, like he

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could do it without it, he could be him without it.

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Speaker 4: But I'm curious.

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Speaker 3: I would be curious if he did hold it for

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a while.

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Speaker 5: Very what how do we go on picks for this

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one for five last week, I think, or one for four, right,

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it's only one of us, only one of us picked

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him to win.

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Speaker 7: I was not one of those people.

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Speaker 2: I was not one of you were you were you were?

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Previous was about not yet those people.

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Speaker 5: And to be clear, I enjoyed Darby's character, as I mentioned,

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I think I do enjoy him. I have problems, Tunci.

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I think you or conra ever mentioning it Jeff Hardy

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mcfoley type. I even used that it's very much the same.

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I have trouble accepting him. That being said, I really

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enjoyed how they did it. I thought creatively last week's

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episode did some of the most unique and interesting narrative

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stuff AW has tried. They made it very clear he

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was winning from the beginning to build it the whole show.

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They booke ended with the start and the finish with him.

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I thought his promo was emotional and it really grounded

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me and made me want to root for him. They

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turned me around to want to see this in a

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way that I did not before that show because I

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just I didn't see it. I didn't see the chase.

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I wasn't emotionally invested. I needed them to make me

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want to see him overcome, and they did that in

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his promo and to Valle's point, how he won, I

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thought was perfect. I don't think it would have had

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the same significance if they went out there and had

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a twenty or twenty five minute match. Max getting screwed

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over by his own underhanded tactics by the always more

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clever Darby Allen was great and I would encourage people.

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If you've not been on YouTube, there's a YouTube account

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called Tranquilo Club and he's an aw fan. He used

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to post a lot more, he's very rare. Now does

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a video once every six months to a year. And

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he covered this in a very unique way and traced

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back the headlocked takeover that MJF and Darby have done

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all the way back to the Indies. This is a

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finish that they have been doing for years before aaw

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and I was not aware of that collection and learning

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some more of that just it's a little cherry on

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top of It's one of those extra special things that

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when you go real deep on the indie scene and

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your knowledge of a of performers goes real deep, you

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get a little extra satisfaction on how they did it.

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I was really satisfied at the end of the show.

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I think it'll be transition Tory. I don't see him

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being his character. Just getting the crap beat out of

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him explains him losing it in a short term anyways,

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because he's always getting beat up. It would make sense

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he can't overcome everything. So but I enjoyed it. I

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questioned the choice, but I thought how they executed it

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was quite good.

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Speaker 2: Chris, have you got yet?

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Speaker 6: But very said about ninety percent of what I was

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going to like just took the words right out of

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my mouth.

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Speaker 7: But my apologize.

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Speaker 6: Now, Okay, The only thing I will add is you

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look at Darby Allen's other title rings, his He and

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T title ran. He was the guy who defended that

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title week after week after week, and it ended up

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biting him in the butt In the end because he

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had a relatively short rain. You know, He's going to

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do the same thing with the world title because he

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believes that a champion should be defending against any and

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all challengers. So I think how he won work, and

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I think the run will be a short you know,

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burning the candle at both ends tend to run for him,

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which is perfect for him in his character.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I kind of agree with what

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Barry said because the build up throughout the show, starting

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right at the beginning with MGF supposedly not even being

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aware that he had a match and that it was

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opening the show because it was originally slated to open

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the show, but it didn't, but they built up the

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emotion all the way through. But I think the biggest

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thing that happened that I took away from this is

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that at the end of the show, you came away

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from that show thinking, Hey, anything it can happen in

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aw It's not going to always follow the script, you know,

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because I was looking at this like, there's just no

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way that Darby's going to win this match.

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Speaker 9: All the way until he got the pin, I was

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still thinking there is no way he's going to win

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this match.

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Speaker 14: That man.

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Speaker 9: After he did after he did get the pin, I

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was thinking, there's no way that he just won that match.

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Speaker 2: And you know who else thought the same thing that

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I thought, MGF, because he went nuts. He played this

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to perfection.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I can't read this out, but there's a tweet that's

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out there for people that are not watching us live

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on YouTube and are listening to us on Apple podcasters,

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Spotify or iHeartRadio or whatever. I mean, he kicked me

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in the nuts. He did this, he did that. He's

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a cheater. I'm going to he just MGF went nuts.

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Now here's the thing. Right after this match was over,

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the reports that were coming out saying that MGF was

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going to immediately be filming a movie. But then in

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the middle of the week, it was reports coming out

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that MGF is playing a part at Double or nothing.

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So this may be something that's going to keep going on.

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Maybe MGF faces Darby Allen again. And you know how

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that script goes, the champion that just wins the championship

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wrestles the former champion and wins kind of validates them

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as the new champion. But now with what happened at

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the main event that Dynamite spring breakthrough. I don't know

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if that's gonna happen this time. And speaking of Dynamite,

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that really wasn't a discussion topic, but I do want

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to bring this up. And now that Conrad's here, Conrad,

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why don't you tell everybody about your podcast? Tomorrow night?

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Speaker 7: There we go.

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Speaker 13: If I can hit the mute button. Yeah, we're gonna

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be talking Dynamite right after Dynamite goes off the air.

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If you guys come over to Everything Pro Wrestling or

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at EPW show, we're gonna be talking about everything that

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we're running down tonight. So it's always fun. Good time

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come talk some pro wrestling with me and my buddy Derek.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Conrad and Derek. There's so much fun people on

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the podcast. I know, Chris, you've been there. I don't

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know if anybody else is. Yeah, it's so much fun.

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I have a good time every time i'm on that show.

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You know, not on the show, but listening to the show.

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They're they're very fun and give it a shot. So

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let's talk about MGF now and Darby Allen and well

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Tomasco Champa because we have a world Championship match tomorrow

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night between Tomaso Champa and Darby Allen. Who wasn't that

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said that they were kind of tired of seeing Darby Allen,

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you know, following the script of getting his ass kick

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to then roll up at the end of the match.

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Who wasn't that said pretty much? Yeah, I mean very

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reminiscent Darby Allen. The way his matches go is very

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reminiscent of Orange Cassidy matches to me, especially when Orange

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Cassidy was held the international title on that what was

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a forty four defense ring. But let's look at this match.

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What needs to happen in this match? And do you

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think that MGF gets involved in this someone.

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Speaker 6: And it's involved in the match. But I wouldn't. I

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wouldn't be shocked if we see some post match Janigin's

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at fault again. As far as what the match needs

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to be, I think we do need to see Darby

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Allen getting some solid offense. You know, he's the he's

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always going to be the kid who takes three stots

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to give one and just never stops fighting. And with Tomaso,

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you know he'll have that. But he needs that big

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kind of fiery comeback, not just a quick roll up.

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Speaker 10: I do think Tamassa. Champ is the perfect guy to

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give him that match.

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Speaker 4: Just like the match.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think he's pretty good at getting blown up

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in the ring and just having a high, fast paced

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match because Darby.

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Speaker 5: One of the interesting things too on Dynamite is they

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went out of their way to line up challengers for

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Darby before he even won. Champas said he was going

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00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:12,880
to say it. Kevin Knight came out and said he

477
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,279
wants a shot at the title. So I think Kelson

478
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:18,440
or somebody else in the moment was just was mentioning that,

479
00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:21,799
you know, what are they doing? And I think one

480
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,720
of the keys to kind of solidify Darby is you

481
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,799
don't want him in there against a big person because

482
00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:28,559
it's just going to make him look super small. And

483
00:25:28,599 --> 00:25:30,319
so they've got him in there, and they've lined up

484
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,400
challengers that are relatively the same in height. Chompa's bigger

485
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,359
than a muscular wise, but he's not a huge dude.

486
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,440
Same for Kevin Knight. Fit athletic but not a huge dude.

487
00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:40,720
And let Darby go in there and have a match.

488
00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:42,240
Ree he doesn't get the crap beat out of him.

489
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:44,480
You know, I'm sure Chompo beat him up and throw

490
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:47,039
him around a little bit. But people forget too And

491
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:49,440
we even mentioned this last week, like Darby can wrestle

492
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,599
like he's good in the ring. When he's not just

493
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,039
doing a match er, he gets beat up. So I'm

494
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:56,599
really excited to see what they can do. I hope

495
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,599
they give him ten, twelve, fifteen minutes to go out

496
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,839
there and really have a good time and remind people

497
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:03,680
that Darby's more than just a spotfest guy.

498
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a specific question, Barry, do you

499
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,440
think that Darby needs a dominant win or is he

500
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:12,720
okay doing the way he's going now.

501
00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 7: I don't want it as the champ.

502
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 5: I don't want to see him with the he gets

503
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,319
beat up and scores with a with a roll up

504
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,680
with Orange Cassidy. Back in the day that made sense

505
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,440
because him being exhausted as a champion. How's he going

506
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:24,839
to get out of this one? As part of the

507
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,440
story as a fresh champ, I.

508
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 7: Want to see him go.

509
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,839
Speaker 5: He's he's got to be established as as a guy

510
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,039
who's worthy of carrying that belt. And somebody gets the

511
00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:35,799
crap beat out of him and wins in a fluke win.

512
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,359
Isn't that guy? And so I think I am hoping,

513
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,839
let me put it that way, that we get a

514
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,920
more competitive match than traditional with Darbyan.

515
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: Well, Conrad Conrad has raised his hand, so I'm going

516
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,799
to go to Conrad here for his opinion.

517
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 13: I just have one thing I wanted to bring up

518
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,200
to the panel. There's something interesting about to Masco Champ.

519
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,880
I don't know if anyone caught his tweet, but first time

520
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,000
he challenged for the NXT Championship, he won the championship.

521
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,119
First time he challenged for this, like, he went through

522
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,160
all the titles and he was like, first time I

523
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,799
challenged for the Ring of Honor TV title, I won it,

524
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,640
And I was just like, that's interesting. It was a

525
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,359
good way to get people believing like it could happen again.

526
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,519
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's last week. Anything can happen. Who said

527
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:21,920
that like anything can happen? They established that last week,

528
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,000
So that's a good.

529
00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:25,279
Speaker 4: Point, yeah, I Conrad.

530
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:26,839
Speaker 3: I mean there was a period of time that Tamaso

531
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,559
Choppa carried NXT. What a great time for NXT as well.

532
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:31,920
I mean that was the golden.

533
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 4: Era that.

534
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: You guys really I want to ask the whole panel,

535
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,400
you guys really think that m isn't going to interfere

536
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,519
with this match in some shame or form, albeit whether

537
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:48,880
he's coming out himself, masking up or paying someone on

538
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,880
camera to come out here and mess with them himself

539
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,920
and themselves not being directly involved. I mean, like, I

540
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,799
think given the nature of how he lost, I think

541
00:27:57,839 --> 00:27:59,759
he'd have more incentive to run out there and be

542
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:03,160
hand is on with revenge, you know, desperation.

543
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:07,559
Speaker 2: Shane is to return to the devil or as we

544
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:08,799
like to call him, CM punk.

545
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:13,079
Speaker 4: Don't drag me back there.

546
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,759
Speaker 5: So Shane, though on that, like MGF, is not going

547
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:20,920
to let somebody else win that belt. He's not gonna

548
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,400
screw Darby over in the chump, but he wants it.

549
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:27,640
He wants to beat Derby. So maybe afterwards, but I

550
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,599
don't think he's going to impact the finish to this

551
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,319
match because he's the one that wants to take the

552
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:33,680
belt off Derby right.

553
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 4: By any means, by any means necessary.

554
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,119
Speaker 3: The low hanging the low hanging fruit is this thing,

555
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:39,559
and I do agree with you he wants to take

556
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:43,079
it off the Derby. I wasn't implying that, but I

557
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:45,559
would see him like and obviously you.

558
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: Know this is a This is just filler.

559
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,079
Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna Darby's gonna go over Champa. They're

560
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:54,319
not going to be you know, popcorning the aw World Championship.

561
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:56,000
That's not going to be a thing. It's not at

562
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,039
least right not right now in terms of story.

563
00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: But like, yeah, yeah.

564
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 6: See, I gotta agree with Ferry. I don't think he's

565
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,039
gonna interfere in the match, but I think I wouldn't

566
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,920
be surprised if he comes out a piece of crap

567
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,440
out at Derby afterwards. And I think it's going rematch

568
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,079
at double or nothing, And MJS isn't going to wrestle

569
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,599
at all between now and DOUBLERR Nothing because he needs

570
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,839
time to recover. If darb he can say, if Darby

571
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,960
wants to be stupid and defend against every Tom Dick

572
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:34,960
and Harry out there, fine, no matter what happens, I

573
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,319
am in the main event for the world title at

574
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,200
double R Nothing.

575
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 12: No, I think it's a good idea for him to do.

576
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: Every week.

577
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,279
Speaker 12: I don't think he will, but I myself really kind

578
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,599
of want Darby to get away from the coffin drop

579
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:52,920
as much as the finisher and start using the death

580
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,839
drop and stuff. Start a little more tamer and easier.

581
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 7: To pull off. But he's going to do excellent job.

582
00:30:01,519 --> 00:30:04,079
Speaker 12: I love the way he's doing stuff. The m JF

583
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,160
is gonna buy his time and they could have a match,

584
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,880
But that doesn't mean that m JF needs a title

585
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,400
back either.

586
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: Who if if they run back the the m JF

587
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:20,440
Derby match and MJF does lose and Darby continues to carry,

588
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:22,119
what happens after.

589
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:30,119
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Something for Forbidden Door baby.

590
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean you can find someone from from Biden Door.

591
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,599
You can do some other things too, but and there's

592
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,200
other people.

593
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 6: I just l Jeff Barado, l Jeff Barado in a

594
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:39,839
freaking death match.

595
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: Well you need somebody about Darby size, so.

596
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 6: L o something.

597
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 12: Yeah, anyway, you don't like wanting.

598
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:56,799
Speaker 1: To have it?

599
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: Well like uh, I liked he said Shade. Who is

600
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,440
that mask?

601
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:01,759
Speaker 3: Man?

602
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,839
Speaker 2: I think it would be something to see MGF come

603
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:11,599
out with a full body suit with a mystico type match,

604
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:17,720
a luchadora type match, mask on, I mean, and beat

605
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:20,160
the hell out of Darby Allen. But Wardlow comes out

606
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:26,160
to save Darby Allen but ends up helping MJF. That's

607
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,240
a good way to get wardlow Beck. He's apparently ready

608
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,480
to come back. I mean we can go full circle

609
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:32,839
on this.

610
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:38,759
Speaker 6: I don't know and Don tallas owes JF and.

611
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:39,759
Speaker 2: That's very true.

612
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 5: What if he sends Andrade out, What if and doesn't

613
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,960
want to help, is not gonna want to help?

614
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,359
Speaker 7: Nope, they shook hands and he's avoided beating him up.

615
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: Is there anybody else that had an opinion about this

616
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:57,359
match and this storyline? All right, then well let's go

617
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,960
on to the next match, because the ongoing saga will

618
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,559
Osprey getting the crap beat out of him by Don

619
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,640
Kallis family members is going to continue on aw Dynamite.

620
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,799
And when I say that, I kind of mean it.

621
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,559
I think Mark Davis is going to target Will Ospray

622
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:21,000
and I basically murder him and set Osprey back, so

623
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,480
that come double or nothing, whatever match Osprey has, he's

624
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:29,440
going to be beaten, broken in the complete underdog and

625
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,200
puke and rally and get get it done. What do

626
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,640
you guys think about this match right here?

627
00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: Anyone?

628
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 12: I think it has potential to be pretty darn good.

629
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,920
They know each other, they fought each other, so this

630
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:40,559
will be good.

631
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorr. I haven't.

632
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,319
Speaker 10: I'm sorry.

633
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: I think I think the repackage on Mark Davis has

634
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,799
been awesome. I don't think he needs Yeah, I think

635
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:55,240
he I think the repackage on him has been absolutely awesome.

636
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:57,759
But I think he's going to hang around the mid cart.

637
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,640
I think we all know how this match fense. We'll

638
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,240
get some cool wrestling, and Osprey's going to go over Unus.

639
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,960
Of course, don Cal's family comes out kicks the crap

640
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,319
out of him. Again, does it matter at this point

641
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:10,400
because he's going to get his redemption arc at some point.

642
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,720
They're building it up United Empire or not.

643
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 6: Well, we do will be the guy.

644
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: Well, we do have that pay per view coming up

645
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:20,680
between Forbidden Door and all In called Redemption, and I

646
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,319
think this is built for Will Osprey. I do think

647
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:27,039
Will Osprey is going to be in the main event

648
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:30,000
at all In, but he's got to get his redemption

649
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,519
to earn it, and that maybe is the winner of

650
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,559
the because it looks like Redemption is going to be

651
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:36,920
where the winner of the owen Hart is decided.

652
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that makes sense. I think I learned it.

653
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 14: Back in.

654
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,799
Speaker 6: I want to say it was twenty twenty twenty three

655
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,000
New Japan Cup, Spray and Martevis squared off and they

656
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:55,480
had a fantastic match, and I would say both guys

657
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:59,640
have only gotten better since then. So I'm really really

658
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,640
hoping and this one gets fifteen, maybe even close to twenty,

659
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960
and they just let these guys go because if they do,

660
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:10,480
it will be one of the best matches I've seeing,

661
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,960
you know, in the last three weeks.

662
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,079
Speaker 7: Definitely fun, This will be fun.

663
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,159
Speaker 5: I'm with you, Kelson, he it's funny because Brian Alvarez

664
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,599
on on the various restingers are we live in radio

665
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:29,760
shows mention that Will always loses his way to championships,

666
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,360
which is which is funny and I think is stupid.

667
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,239
I really, I really hope that if Tony decides he's

668
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,079
going to be the guy that we get a nice

669
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,960
long winning streak from Will. I think I think it's due.

670
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,440
But to Chris's point, these guys know each other inside out.

671
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:48,920
They'll get ten to fifteen minutes, have a lot of fun.

672
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:51,960
I don't think it really matters to finish. We all

673
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,760
know the Kalla's family is going to be involved. That's

674
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,800
a storyline. But I will say, like I just from

675
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,719
Will even come on the paper I really enjoy the

676
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,320
intensity he had and just the violence he showed towards

677
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,719
mox It's a side of Will I don't think we've

678
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,000
really seen. He's been too puppy dog to use jess

679
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,679
A's a phrase to describe him.

680
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 7: And I'd like.

681
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,159
Speaker 5: To see some of that intensity come back, especially this

682
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,280
is a match where Mark can take a beating because

683
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,000
he's a big, thick, boss dude, and I'd like to

684
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:24,320
see Will up that intensity a little bit. And I'd

685
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,719
like to see some of the stuff he did against

686
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,559
Moxley come back.

687
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:28,559
Speaker 2: Anybody else with an opinion about this.

688
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 10: Match, I think there will be some sort of death

689
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,920
writer presence.

690
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:34,119
Speaker 6: Oh.

691
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:39,599
Speaker 10: Will lost to Mocks in the Continental Rules match. That's

692
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:41,920
fair and square. There's no reason for there to be,

693
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,800
you know, anything more other than the redemption. But it

694
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,639
was Marina Shaffir that showed up to his match last week.

695
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:52,840
You know they're coming to Will. Where's that going?

696
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:57,039
Speaker 2: That's very true. Well, we're just gonna have to wait

697
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:58,920
and see, because I think a lot of this is

698
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,280
going to be answered tomorrow. And uh, I really do

699
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,880
believe it's it's gonna be a redemption arc where they're

700
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,320
in the owen Hart Tournament. I think Will Osprey is

701
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,360
gonna get his opportunity to beat everybody that wronged him

702
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,599
on his way to winning the owen Hart Cup Foundation Tournament.

703
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,519
It's as simple as that. But you know, there's another

704
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,679
match on Dynamite tomorrow night, and this one is kind

705
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:32,360
of really interesting. Mina Shirakawa against Hikaru Shidah. Shidah looks

706
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:39,039
like she's the heel of this era of her existence. Shirakawa,

707
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,000
Mina's just Mina. They don't trust each other. Do you

708
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:46,400
think do you think that Sheidah is the one that

709
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,599
took out Tony Storm.

710
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 11: I don't know.

711
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: Yes, the answer is yes. The answer is yes, well,

712
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:53,239
absolutely yes.

713
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 4: I'm not saying nothing else.

714
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 7: And you can't. You can't just drop that and be like,

715
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,880
I'm walking away your drink.

716
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 3: Can't be that he'l she she does awesome, Just let

717
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,800
it be. Let it cook. It's too soon, let it cook.

718
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,119
It's a yes, And when it's when that covers pulled back,

719
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,960
it's gonna be awesome. Enjoy the ride.

720
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 6: You know, I'm definitely hoping for to see return, So

721
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:20,519
I would not mind that one bit, and it would

722
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:24,079
kind of make sense. You know Tony Storm. I mean,

723
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,519
Hikarisheeda may not have been the first champion, but for

724
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:33,000
a long time she was really the ace of that division.

725
00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:36,920
Like she was the top wrestler, and then she had

726
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,639
all her visa issues and Tony Storm comes up with

727
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,079
this crazy gimmick and now she's the top deals. I

728
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:48,639
could see a situation where Shida was just suing about that,

729
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,039
and yeah, decided to just take her out, you know,

730
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,480
go after what she won't.

731
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 14: You know.

732
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: One of the things I did want to bring up here.

733
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,920
I don't know how quite to say this without sounding condescending.

734
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:05,079
When you have two Japanese born and raised wrestlers and uh,

735
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,719
they're doing really really well on their English promos, especially Shida,

736
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:14,239
she is fantastic. Yeah, I have to give her props

737
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,159
go ahead.

738
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 5: Like when the Japanese performers yell at each other in Japanese,

739
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:23,880
there's just there's a couple of languages when they're angry,

740
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,719
sound just terrifying German.

741
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 7: German is one of them, and Japanese is another one.

742
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 5: Like like when when they're worked up, it's just it's

743
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,880
just terrifying to hear it.

744
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 7: And I love it.

745
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 5: I really enjoyed when they would go at each other

746
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,559
a little in Japanese and then and then partner it

747
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:47,039
with the English summary, so to speak. Uh, I enjoy

748
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:48,800
when they do that both in W W E and

749
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,880
A W I. I like that a lot, and I

750
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,960
hope the emotion comes out a little more so.

751
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 6: When it's a very total language. So yeah, you have

752
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:03,039
like inflection is things like that are very important because

753
00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:06,760
you can have one word spelled the same way but

754
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,360
mean nine different things just based on how you say.

755
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 5: It just sounds terrifying. I don't I don't know what

756
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,280
they're saying.

757
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,599
Speaker 2: It just sounds well, well, barry somebody, barry somebody. And

758
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:20,519
I have to apologize because I don't remember what it was.

759
00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:25,360
But somebody did translate the conversation between me to Shirkao

760
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,320
and Karshia. The only thing I could remember was that

761
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,960
it was really funny. It was funny, but you couldn't

762
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,280
understand it because well I could understand it because I

763
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,199
don't speak Japanese.

764
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

765
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 5: Well, like even Takesha and no kinda got into I

766
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,960
love and Takesha today.

767
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 7: It's just I don't know.

768
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 5: It's one of those fun things when you've got a

769
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,559
really strong international roster where you can kind of pull

770
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:48,119
those things out because we all know in real life

771
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:50,039
they'd be yelling at each other in their native tongues.

772
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:52,639
So it's fun and just it's just a fun little

773
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:54,880
thing that that they can do on TV and I

774
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,519
people yelling in Japanese.

775
00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 7: It's just it's just it's just fun.

776
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:03,159
Speaker 10: I think between the last two Hida promos last week

777
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,360
and the online exclusive two weeks ago, this has me

778
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:11,199
with or or it has me hooked as my most

779
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,119
I guess anticipated program they translated two weeks ago also,

780
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:19,280
and I think Sheida is doing this two face kind

781
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,280
of thing where she's nice in English and mean in Japanese.

782
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,920
So much you could do with that, especially leading into

783
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,719
Forbidden Doors. Who is she going to be to the

784
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:30,840
aw roster?

785
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 5: What what's the angle with Chris too? Are they like

786
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,119
setting them up to be a new tag team? Try

787
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:40,519
to get Chris to go like, what's what's that angle too?

788
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:43,400
And then Hidah was like creeping on Willow a couple

789
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,880
of weeks ago. They've kind of left that dangling out there,

790
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,760
so she's come back with a vengeance.

791
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: Chris clearly does not trust to Karlsheta, and I think

792
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,199
that's what the purpose is, to have somebody that clearly

793
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,280
doesn't trust Hidah, you know, to put that sheet doubt

794
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,800
in because, let's face it, she'd has been the baby

795
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,400
face of the company since she started with the company. Yeah,

796
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,400
and she's a day warner.

797
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:11,199
Speaker 10: She's that n saver that'll talk nice to you in

798
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,400
front of you and then go talk to your other

799
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,760
neighbors about you.

800
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 7: And Shiva, Yeah, Shiv Shiva.

801
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:18,119
Speaker 6: There you go.

802
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: I also think that it's important to highlight that Herkaroshida

803
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,960
is the second most decorated women's World champion in aw

804
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,199
She's three to four to Tony Storm. I couldn't put it.

805
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:32,400
It's believable that she was the one that took her

806
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,239
out of the game.

807
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: Wasn't she?

808
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,079
Speaker 5: It was the ace before Tony kind of took that

809
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:39,880
mantle too, was the first three time champ, you.

810
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,599
Speaker 2: Know when when she had the last lost her title.

811
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:45,360
Wasn't it Tony Storm to defeat him?

812
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,679
Speaker 3: I think something sure was at full gear back in

813
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,480
twenty twenty three.

814
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: Baby, Yeah, So there is that arc there. Of course,

815
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,400
we still don't know what's going on with Tony Storm,

816
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,039
but still doesn't look like she's going to be back

817
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:03,039
before the end of twenty twenty six. I think she's

818
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,960
it's work chat No, No, I really don't at this point.

819
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:14,039
I don't because they would have said something. I kind

820
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:17,559
of agree with the expand upon that, Shane, you think

821
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:19,039
it's a work.

822
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,679
Speaker 3: What you're taking well, I mean, like from the from

823
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,239
the obvious for the optics are you know if she

824
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,199
we would be hearing more things about an injury, what

825
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,840
kind of injury she would have? We have heard nothing.

826
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,599
It's been radio silenced. I mean not to mention like

827
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:37,119
how well it played into the story. Someone's going to

828
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:38,360
come out beat or take her out of the game.

829
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,880
Isn't Tony Storm's whole entire thing being an actress? Didn't

830
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,440
she put over playing her old self less than an

831
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:49,039
a half ago. You couldn't believe that she wouldn't fake

832
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:53,320
being injured as an opportunity to blindside people, messing with

833
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,599
their opportunity to get back in the World Championship frame.

834
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,760
I think Ethckle is.

835
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,679
Speaker 4: A great world champion.

836
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,599
Speaker 3: I would like to see the belt on her, know Tonya, But.

837
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,159
Speaker 5: It's didn't they say though, like the double or nothing

838
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:07,760
match was going to be Tony Tekla like, I don't

839
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,960
like I want to believe you, Shane, but just subjectively

840
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,679
looking at the situation, a sudden change, she's off TV,

841
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,280
I don't think it's the work.

842
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,039
Speaker 7: It may not be something as yeah, but I mean,

843
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:27,599
like there's wish casting and then there's just looking at

844
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,800
reality and this just doesn't make creative sense for that

845
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,519
to be a work.

846
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe she's not out as long as what they

847
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:37,559
imply or something, you know, because they said she's gonna

848
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:39,400
be had a long time and maybe she's back in

849
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,320
three months. But like something like that where they're not

850
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,280
sharing an injury, it leads me to believe it's a

851
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,320
serious health scare. There's a family issue, she is with child.

852
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,480
It's it's one of those kind of things where it's

853
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,320
not something you want out there. She's going to be

854
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,599
gone for a significant period time.

855
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:55,599
Speaker 12: I would have said she's with child or something by now.

856
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,519
Speaker 3: I'm not sure about you.

857
00:43:57,079 --> 00:44:02,679
Speaker 12: They don't share, Yeah, that stuff, the announcements.

858
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: I will tell you straight up, some women don't want

859
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000
to put that out in the ether, especially immediately and

860
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:11,159
not and not to mention her husband also works for

861
00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:14,960
a w you know, there's obvious implications.

862
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,559
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I mean, we just saw Bianca bell

863
00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:22,079
Air in the best moment of WrestleMania Night one where

864
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:24,719
she came out looking like Peanut from Jeff Dunham. With

865
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,719
that she was just a purple I'm sorry, but I

866
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,679
thought of Peanut right away. What the what the belly

867
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,400
with the belly, but I was like, that's Peanut, Butaca Bellair,

868
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,559
but she was obviously more than two weeks pregnant, you know,

869
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:43,239
once she came out and made this announcement and it

870
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:48,119
was though, yes, I mean yeah, but I'm gonna say

871
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:54,199
two words that are gonna have you shivering in antissaation.

872
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:06,679
All Right, we're Carloshida against Tony Storm at Redemption because

873
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:10,519
Carlsheeda did, in fact take out Tony Storm. Only Tony

874
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:14,639
Storm knows that that she'da took her out and she's

875
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:16,800
gonna come back, and that's a perfect setup for a

876
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,039
match at Redemption. Make the new pay per view something big.

877
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,440
You're gonna have the owen Hart looks absolutely like you're

878
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,440
gonna have the owen Hart Tournament Finals at Redemption, and

879
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,679
then you're gonna have a Carusheeda against Tony Storm at redemption.

880
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,360
I think that makes the pay per view a must

881
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,800
see and that's what you want.

882
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 10: Something else that I don't know, have forgotten, maybe I

883
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:49,079
missed it, but two years ago, three years ago, Mercedes

884
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:51,960
Bonnet was attacked and I don't think that ever got

885
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,239
a resolved or we never got a conclusion from that.

886
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,519
Is the killer still out there?

887
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right.

888
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 5: That was when she was in the room. No, there

889
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:10,039
was Julie hurt when she was attacked in the room.

890
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 7: They revealed it was truly hurt. Was it said?

891
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I don't remember that. Honestly, I don't so,

892
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,000
Tuci I was. I'm with you on that one. I

893
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,199
didn't remember. It must not have been a very good angle.

894
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 5: It was not in one of the better creative This

895
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:27,239
was the at the end, tail end of the Dark.

896
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 2: Hair, the Dark Ages.

897
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, they had a rough eighteen months.

898
00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:39,199
Speaker 2: To wrap up the show. I wanted to talk about

899
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,400
something that I know is near and dear at the

900
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:47,159
hearts of some of you here Dog Shane Chris, I'm

901
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:49,159
sure you're gonna love this, but I want to talk

902
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:54,880
about June twenty eighth, twenty twenty six, Forbidden Door is

903
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,960
coming back and if you look at the graphic, isn't

904
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:03,159
it sweet? You've got a Japan Pro wrestling and for

905
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:08,559
the first time ever, CMLL and Stardom are on the graphic,

906
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:12,079
which I think is a must because for me, New

907
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:16,199
Japan has nothing to get.

908
00:47:17,679 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 3: Its station in the Shark every year, Kelson, you know,

909
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,559
I've got to hijack this every year, Kelson. Do just

910
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:24,679
give Forbidden Door to day in court, dude. It it

911
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,800
exists for a reason. It's fan serviced, and it's great

912
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,440
to see these promotions all working together. You know, I

913
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,280
don't to be honestly, I love the program, but I

914
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,480
hate the term for Bidden Door. But it's never disappointed

915
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,920
not to be well, I.

916
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,039
Speaker 2: Loved the I actually watched for Bid Door last year

917
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:47,599
because I loved the build up toward Forbid Door last

918
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:51,960
year because it wasn't very Forbidden doorsh there wasn't a

919
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,920
lot of uh.

920
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 7: We've talked about that too.

921
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,559
Speaker 5: I thought they struck a good balance last year, Kelson,

922
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:59,760
because I agree that Forbidden Door kind of was momentum

923
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:03,679
learn because it would stop all current storylines exactly, and

924
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:07,599
they kept the top three going and the rest was

925
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,920
just fun, cool matches.

926
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: That's why it should be.

927
00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, make it a celebration of wrestling. Have a couple

928
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,719
you can books up, but keep the main stories going,

929
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,599
have those matches still, and the rest is just a

930
00:48:20,639 --> 00:48:23,039
celebration of the best people in the world doing what

931
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:23,800
we like to watch.

932
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:29,039
Speaker 2: There is absolutely no no reason to have a storyline

933
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,039
for Forbidden Door. There really isn't because it's just watching

934
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:37,159
the matches. If you watch the matches, if you enjoy

935
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,239
the matches, that's all the matters. They don't mean anything.

936
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,440
New Japan's never going to win a title from ae W.

937
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:47,159
Speaker 7: You know, does you make this graphic?

938
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:48,039
Speaker 6: No?

939
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: I did not make this ground.

940
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 7: I'm just just choosing Derby in the casket. I thought,

941
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,039
I just pick.

942
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a shark Ian Yeah, I mean for the

943
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,800
door jumping there.

944
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 7: You go, and the coffin on the Yeah.

945
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: But the graphic has some cool I mean, Persephone is

946
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,159
definitely on the on the graphic. Mexico is on the graphic. Frankly,

947
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:22,440
I'm hoping that we see a really, really, really strong

948
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,079
representation from c MLL and started because again, and I

949
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:28,840
mean this from the bottom of my heart, and it

950
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,639
pains me to say it. New Japan has nothing.

951
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, right, now, right now, I'm watching the.

952
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,599
Speaker 2: One one or two wrestlers in New Japan that are

953
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:47,960
worth watching. I can't name. I can't name one New Japan. No, no, listen,

954
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:52,199
the only New Japan Pro wrestling. There's only two, and

955
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,559
I don't think ones with with New Japan anymore. But

956
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:58,199
he's a Japanese wrestler, so he's from New Japan. The

957
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,519
one is Zach Saber Junior, who I cannot stomach watching

958
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:07,119
because matches are listen.

959
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 6: That is.

960
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't like watching his matches because

961
00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:15,800
I am not a technical match personal that's just not

962
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,639
my thing, and I just find his matches to be

963
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,320
that matching with him and Nigel Beginnis was so boring.

964
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,679
I wanted to I wanted to just like jump in

965
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,840
the pool if I had one, you know, and drownd

966
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,639
myself the.

967
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:31,519
Speaker 7: Other one to shoot.

968
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,679
Speaker 2: No, I got to the other one does I said,

969
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,039
I had to barry And I know you're gonna appreciate this.

970
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,159
The world famous Yoshi Tatsu.

971
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 4: Isn't that he isn't he doing him?

972
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: No, that's a that's a we have this guy that

973
00:50:55,199 --> 00:51:00,000
comes on to our discord screen. Oh yeah, but everywhere

974
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,800
he also on Ready he has I'm not going to

975
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,199
say his name, but he has like I think he's

976
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,679
up the thirteen versions of his name because he keeps

977
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:10,079
getting banned on all the other ones. And he is

978
00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:13,840
a Yoshi Tattoo fan and he he made a subreddit

979
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,039
for Yoshi Tattoo that basically says he had his poster

980
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:22,719
all f Kelson f Greatness of Wrestling f a w

981
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,159
fan hub because we banned him because he comes onto this.

982
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:27,559
That's all he talks about is Yoshi Tattoo.

983
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 14: Well, okay, but Garrison, who of Griff's Great Jephenie New

984
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:39,400
Paying guys are interesting.

985
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 6: Knockout Brothers are one of the best teams of the world.

986
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: Let me let me stop you who wait, Chris, the

987
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,920
Knockout Brothers. Who are the Knockout Brothers.

988
00:51:54,199 --> 00:52:01,159
Speaker 6: Oscar and the Utah Ice. They are graduates. Oscar kids

989
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:03,519
started in the follow Ay Go To and I think

990
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,639
Utah spent some time over there as well. They teamed

991
00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:10,599
up during their young line day. They went on excursion together,

992
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,840
they came back and they have just run over the team.

993
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:19,639
Speaker 2: So I can honestly say I've never heard of them.

994
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,199
Speaker 7: They were they I we.

995
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:26,079
Speaker 5: Saw I think a preview of one of the matches,

996
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,199
We're going to get an anarchy in the arena match

997
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,519
and it's going to be United Empire versus Death Writers.

998
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 14: I think.

999
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,639
Speaker 5: I think that's what's gonna happen. Forbidden Door. You still

1000
00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:37,639
got showed to Umino and Yodasuji out there. You can

1001
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,119
Zach Seaber Jr. Can come in, like you mentioned, you

1002
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:44,920
can bring in render Rita al Fantasmo put him up

1003
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,760
against how Darby or something like. There's there's a there's

1004
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,800
a good five six guys you can plug into anything

1005
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,440
in in this in this uh, this show, I think

1006
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,840
it'll be heavy. I would like to see the United

1007
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,679
Empire versus Death Writers for that's that's where they should

1008
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:01,119
take place. That I'll get a lot of people on

1009
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:03,239
the show. I mean, we all know the depth of

1010
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,079
CM's roster. They're on TV. A bunch of Baltimore Junior

1011
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:07,960
will come over, You've already got missed to go on

1012
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:11,199
dual contracts. I'm more interested. Who do you think from

1013
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,519
stardom will come over? Do you think we'll see like

1014
00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:17,119
sorry and like like who Kelson you're the stardom expert.

1015
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,719
Who do you think from stardom just based on who.

1016
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,119
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say who I'd like to see, but

1017
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,719
I'm gonna go by the two people. There's two people

1018
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,360
in the A w to talk length about stardom. That's

1019
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:34,280
Tony Khan and uh Kenny Omega. Kenny Omega. Tony Khan

1020
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,159
and Kenny Omega both start like kid fans. Yeah all right,

1021
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,960
and so yeah, Kenny Omega is also a fan of

1022
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,480
Uh that's a boy who you know. I mean, I've

1023
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,320
always said I'm gonna marry her when I grew up.

1024
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:50,159
Speaker 4: She's cosmic angels, right.

1025
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, well for right now. Yeah, some someday that may

1026
00:53:54,119 --> 00:54:00,639
go out the window. Who Techla, tech La bien door.

1027
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,599
I don't believe that Tekla is going to uh to

1028
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:09,599
face any She's not gonna be championed door, I don't.

1029
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:10,840
I don't think.

1030
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,079
Speaker 6: I'd like to say some of the hate ladies come over.

1031
00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:16,599
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean obviously obviously i'd like to see

1032
00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:21,480
Sayakamatani come over. Mozilla's injured, so she's not going to

1033
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:22,639
be here, but.

1034
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:25,159
Speaker 7: Uh, she wasn't.

1035
00:54:25,559 --> 00:54:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, a Zoomie. There's just literally

1036
00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:38,639
you could you could pull anybody from the roster on

1037
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,119
stardom and make a good show out of it. Stardom

1038
00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:46,119
just had American Dream twenty twenty six on Friday. Uh

1039
00:54:46,159 --> 00:54:51,159
and there was starter basically a versus a w uh start,

1040
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,360
Starlight Kid, May Sarah and uh oh who was there?

1041
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,719
Who's their partner? A Zoomie a Zuomi, beat the crap

1042
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,679
out of Willow Nightingale, Harley Cameron and Chris Statlander. I mean,

1043
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:05,639
just destroying them.

1044
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,679
Speaker 7: Starlight Kidd hasn't been on TV on aw TV.

1045
00:55:08,639 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 2: No, no, neither is that's a point matter of fact,

1046
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,199
that's a point was in at American Dream and she

1047
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,199
did a couple of indie appearances. That was her first

1048
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,719
matches in the United States ever. And she's a she's

1049
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:29,039
a veteran. Uh Machiedo. Machiedo was uh you know, was

1050
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:30,920
supposed to be there, but she was having me says,

1051
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:36,119
somebody is making a ton of noise. But anyway, yeah, so,

1052
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,360
I mean, and again the same thing goes for CMLL.

1053
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,159
You've got uh, you know, Persephone, who's definitely gonna be there.

1054
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:46,159
From on the women's side, you got Mystic go At Cicero.

1055
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:53,960
You know, you know, I just did I forbidden there's

1056
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,800
stuff going on, and there's some questions. Yes, I did

1057
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,440
say that, I do not believe that at Techla is

1058
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:06,119
going to be the champion at Forbidden Door, the AW

1059
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,519
Women's champion, And even if she is, I do not

1060
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:13,719
believe that she will be defending the AW Women's Championship

1061
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,159
at Forbidden Door. The reason I say that is because

1062
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,199
it is because she's got two partners and the Sisters

1063
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:28,400
of Sin, and you know, in an exhibition match, you

1064
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,519
want Techla and the Sisters the Sin against three of

1065
00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:33,280
Starterom's best. It's as simple as that. The other thing

1066
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,960
is is that also for at the American Dream twenty

1067
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:42,079
twenty six, Tecla, who the stored. They've been bringing the

1068
00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:46,000
story up in AW in recent weeks, being fired from

1069
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:52,760
stardom for attacking taro Ocatta. At at American Dream twenty

1070
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,559
twenty six, Tecla showed up and attacked taro Okata again.

1071
00:56:57,679 --> 00:57:00,559
So that is going to be a store worry for

1072
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:02,639
Forbidden Door. I'm sorry, that's got to be.

1073
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:07,039
Speaker 5: Didn't get from Japan and then she's like, okay, so

1074
00:57:07,159 --> 00:57:16,360
maybe I did get there. Struggle to keep They're going

1075
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,480
to struggle to keep her as a heel man like

1076
00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:21,960
she's she's got that breakthrough where people are going to

1077
00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:23,800
just start cheering her like they do mocks.

1078
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 7: And you know, because what.

1079
00:57:26,039 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 15: We talked about it last week, because she's getting she's getting,

1080
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:35,440
she's getting, uh babyface pops as a heel Yeah, same

1081
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,559
as Benjief gets.

1082
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,519
Speaker 6: He's got that kind of stone cold Eddie Guerrero type

1083
00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:45,559
of asma where they can do healish things. But the

1084
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:48,039
way they do them, the way they act, You're like,

1085
00:57:48,719 --> 00:57:50,320
all right, it's cool when they do it.

1086
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look when it comes to forbidden door, I

1087
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,920
don't know what you got. I know that, Chris, I

1088
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,599
know that you're a new Japan guy. You're you probably

1089
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:01,079
want to see pretty much the entire your New Japan

1090
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:05,320
roster face the AW roster. But I am much more

1091
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:10,039
looking forward to specifically CMLL at stardom, I really am.

1092
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:16,119
Speaker 6: My idea would honestly be a couple of multi person

1093
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:22,400
tag matches where you have AW stardom in CML New

1094
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,480
Japan and AW like that United you know, like the

1095
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,079
Anartidy arena idea United Empire. You could have Osprey representing

1096
00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:38,360
a w an a Great o'con representing New Japan. Templario

1097
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:45,000
representing CMLL and you know, maybe, like I mentioned on Tronte,

1098
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:48,960
is part of it, n jp W and man him

1099
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,519
and Don Kallas like getting along, Like I could see

1100
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:53,760
that split happening.

1101
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: And let me ask you guys a question. This is

1102
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,079
probably the last question because we're gonna wrap this up

1103
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,960
because we are running a little long with Forbidden Door.

1104
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:11,639
Would you rather see no title matches and just straight

1105
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:15,360
up brawls to me? Look to me, it looks when

1106
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,400
you have a title match. To me, when you have

1107
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,519
a title match, A predetermines the winner. I'd rather see

1108
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:27,480
a brawl well where you were any a W title

1109
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,800
being being any a W title defended it after Bidden.

1110
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:36,079
Speaker 5: Door against another promotion or between. Because last year I

1111
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:38,920
thought it was great the title matches were main storyline

1112
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:39,800
a W A W.

1113
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: Well last year was kind of a weird situation because

1114
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:46,599
Forbidden Door lined up with the UH, with the G

1115
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:50,159
One Climax and the Five Star Grand Prix, so you

1116
00:59:50,199 --> 00:59:55,760
didn't have the representation of do Japan and UH and

1117
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,760
UH and stardom as you normally would. You know, so,

1118
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,360
but I again my thought is is that don't put

1119
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,880
an AW title up because it just tells you who's

1120
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,199
gonna win the match, have it all out brawl or

1121
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:13,320
do what Chris said, have multiman or multi women matches

1122
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,199
with a mix you know, have somebody on one side

1123
01:00:17,519 --> 01:00:20,480
it'd be AW startum in CMLL and on the other

1124
01:00:20,519 --> 01:00:22,800
side of AW started in CML. Let them have them,

1125
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:23,599
let him have at it.

1126
01:00:24,519 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 6: Yeah. Like my idea would probably ten match cards that

1127
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:31,679
kind of seems right, and what Tony likes to have

1128
01:00:32,639 --> 01:00:36,239
six that are kind of Forbidden Door matches where you

1129
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,800
have you know, teams of AW New Japan and then

1130
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,119
for a w kind of specific matches where you focus

1131
01:00:46,199 --> 01:00:50,599
on the key storylines, the heavyweight title, you know, maybe

1132
01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:55,440
the tag titles of TNT titles something like that, so

1133
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:59,159
you get all that Forbidden Door goodness, but it's still

1134
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,960
as the host, so it's like we're gonna have our

1135
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:04,199
key mat Yeah.

1136
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:05,559
Speaker 7: And one of the other things too.

1137
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:09,079
Speaker 5: I really wish AW would do, and I think it

1138
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:11,880
would help for Forbidden Door season as well. I really

1139
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,159
think they should recap with a segment, you know, one

1140
01:01:15,239 --> 01:01:18,400
minute on Collision each week and one minute on Dynamite

1141
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,880
each week where they just cover their partners and what's

1142
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,360
going on. Hey, here's the latest from New Japan. Just

1143
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,199
you know so and so and so and so at

1144
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,719
such and such and one and so and so, especially

1145
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,119
if you've got aw talent like they do it a

1146
01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:32,519
little bit during the g One went.

1147
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 7: To Kesha's there and Battle to Super Juniors when Nick

1148
01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:36,039
Wayne is there and stuff.

1149
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:38,239
Speaker 5: But like I would like to know what's going on

1150
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,440
in cmlou, I would like to know what's going on

1151
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:41,079
and start them.

1152
01:01:41,079 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 7: I would like to know what's going on in New Japan.

1153
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,719
You've got a minute where you.

1154
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 5: Can splice together the highlights and that's it. That way,

1155
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,119
when these people show up, I understand if they're a

1156
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:51,679
big deal or not, because I'm not going to see

1157
01:01:51,719 --> 01:01:54,840
them weekly, and I especially leading into Forbidden Door, I

1158
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:55,800
think that will be a value.

1159
01:01:57,039 --> 01:01:59,679
Speaker 2: Well, I will say this is that CML CMLL has

1160
01:01:59,719 --> 01:02:03,000
a show on Friday night. Stardom has their biggest pay

1161
01:02:03,039 --> 01:02:06,079
per view of the year. I'll start Grand Queendom on Sunday.

1162
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,039
It would be interesting if now with I don't know

1163
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:16,440
about CMLL, but would Stardom. It'll be interesting if because

1164
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:21,159
after the matches on Stardom they do have like backstage interviews.

1165
01:02:21,239 --> 01:02:26,199
I guess comments by their wrestlers, and I'm hoping on Sunday,

1166
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:31,039
Stardom wrestlers call out AW wrestlers especially. It wouldn't be

1167
01:02:31,159 --> 01:02:34,280
wouldn't surprise me at all if somebody said, hey, Tecla,

1168
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,440
you disrespected terror Occatta our boss. I'm coming after you,

1169
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,480
you know, for doing that, and then you can have

1170
01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:47,119
a match between Techlan somebody from Stardom. Don't make it

1171
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:49,159
as title match because we've make it a title match.

1172
01:02:49,199 --> 01:02:51,719
You know, Techla's gonna win it. Make it just a

1173
01:02:52,039 --> 01:02:54,639
non title brawl. That's what That's what I would be

1174
01:02:54,719 --> 01:02:57,559
more interested in. There's no reason to put a title

1175
01:02:57,679 --> 01:02:59,599
up for any of these matches. All right, guys, well

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we're gonna call this one a night. We will be back,

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of course, Tuesday night at eight forty five, as we

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are every Tuesday night. Again, make sure you listen in

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with the EPW Show after Dynamite. Right after that show,

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go onto at EPW show on YouTube and listen to

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their their podcast. It is a lot of fun. We'll

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be back with our you know, Controlled Insanity on Tuesday

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night at eight forty five Eastern time. Of course, be

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sure to listen to the podcast, make comments, give us

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but oh god, I hate that stuff is smash Yeah,

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