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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property. And for this week of December second,

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<v Speaker 1>we are continuing with Lost season one, episode twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>Born to Run, a Kate flashback episode. They could be

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<v Speaker 1>subtitled Yeah, we're getting to the two episod season finale,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got one more hour to fill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we get to see Kate traumatize her mother and

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<v Speaker 2>get somebody killed.

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<v Speaker 1>So traumatize her mother, but also, you know, you risk

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<v Speaker 1>your life to go see your mom, who's ailing. You

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<v Speaker 1>risk the life of your old friend and the career

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<v Speaker 1>eventually the life of your old friend, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>finally get to her, you orchestrate this whole thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>what does she do? Did she say, oh, baby, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so good to see you. Before I die you start

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<v Speaker 1>screaming for help? Bad mom? First say oh honey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so happy to see you. Did you lose some weight?

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<v Speaker 1>And what color is your hair?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>No, first, she's just Anyea. That just seemed to fall

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<v Speaker 1>into the bad mom category to me. Come on, show

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<v Speaker 1>a little appreciation. She went to a lot of trouble

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<v Speaker 1>to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we don't know what happened between.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, We don't apparently not something yeah, but not something

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<v Speaker 1>that would expect to be welcomed in such a way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man. And then well we're talking parenting. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got your bad dad here, Mackenzie asked in come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a baby, you have a wife. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to risk your life for this old girlfriend and get

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<v Speaker 1>yourself killed. That's bad. Don't do that. You are now

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<v Speaker 1>a bad dad. You seem like a nice dude, but

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<v Speaker 1>possibly judgment not so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't get in the car with her, is probably yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Step one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she gave you an out, even though you probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have been arrested and your career is ruined. But

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<v Speaker 1>still you would have been Your son could have visited

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<v Speaker 1>you in jail. But now nope, you're gone. Another one

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<v Speaker 1>of a string of dads who need bad decisions that

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<v Speaker 1>will impact their child's life forever. Nice work, buddy, Nice

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<v Speaker 1>to see you though. Hey, how you doing? I remember you? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>last on this podcast, in the movie How to Deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, it's sister's fiance anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we're supposed to be all confused because they

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<v Speaker 2>got they found you. Now we know the source of

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<v Speaker 2>the little plane that case retrieved.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier in it And yet is it any more satisfying.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because now she left it in the backseat of

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<v Speaker 2>the car when she took off, So now we got

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<v Speaker 2>to assume that it got from there to the the deposit.

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<v Speaker 1>My gosh, will we find out the secret of the plane?

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<v Speaker 1>Will we know what happened to her? Oh, my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>such suspense. Oh and there's also this giant door in

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<v Speaker 1>the floor of the jungle. But yeah, that plane, what

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<v Speaker 1>about that plane?

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<v Speaker 2>About that little plane. And also Walt knows.

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<v Speaker 1>About that, Yes, and he senses something bad about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that causes him to tell Walk not to open it,

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<v Speaker 1>and his dad that they have to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And he is special, so we know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, do we mention his special?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>As if we could not have figured out that a

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<v Speaker 1>giant middle door in the middle of the jungle is

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<v Speaker 1>probably not going to lead to something great, let's add

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<v Speaker 1>that little bit of foreshadowing, shall we. It's freak a

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<v Speaker 1>little walled out. Yeah, And you know, speaking of island mysteries,

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<v Speaker 1>what color do we think Kate's hair was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>been in the jungle, Cowel, there's definitely an island Walgreens

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<v Speaker 1>with some claaral products on the shelf.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that when they first showed her and

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<v Speaker 2>So but then they showed her coloring it. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand. I'm so confused.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the things that you don't put in the

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<v Speaker 1>are on a dessert island for long periods of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Completely unnecessary. She could have been brunette and died it blonde,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, then we would have bought it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>although how long was this before the planet? Anyway, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a magical island. It keeps your hair whatever color it

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<v Speaker 1>was when you got there.

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<v Speaker 2>Among its many other properties, there's.

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<v Speaker 1>That don't ask glass Just nope.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do that for sure, hm.

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<v Speaker 1>Amongst other significant things on this episode, we met Ourst,

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<v Speaker 1>the expert in tides and winds and stuff. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>high school science teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>Showed up out of the blue. Never see him before.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been twenty two episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just been hanging.

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden we're listening to his.

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<v Speaker 1>He just couldn't sit still, sit behind the palm tree anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to get up and say something.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently he did.

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<v Speaker 1>But HELLI every now and then, we're just gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>somebody walk out of nowhere, and everybody's going to know

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<v Speaker 1>who they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And everyone's going to listen to what they say and

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<v Speaker 2>take it as gospel because.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, it's that guy. Come on, it's that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's given us good advice before, we played lots of

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<v Speaker 1>golf games. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he's a science teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sure, well, don't get too attached. It's all same.

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<v Speaker 1>But and now much drama about who's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the round. Yes, I don't know if I was Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I had to take any of these jokers,

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<v Speaker 1>Take your kid and go. In the morning, they'll wake

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<v Speaker 1>up and you'll be gone, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But also the whole thing sounds extremely sketchy and

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<v Speaker 3>like it to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yikes. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and they think it will be hard to find

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<v Speaker 1>this island after they get help, which seems to suggest

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<v Speaker 1>a advanced knowledge of where this storyline is going. But

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<v Speaker 1>why would they think that it would be hard to

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<v Speaker 1>find the island?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I guess because no one's found them yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I gets so, But nobody didn't they established early that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody was looking. No one's looking in the right place

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<v Speaker 1>because they were someplace, of course, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I could see Walt saying that. But maybe Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Nope, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>small island. Maybe that's why he said it small island.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of lots of water, yeah, hopefully not poisoned water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it's big enough for you know, at least

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<v Speaker 2>two populations of people hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess we're going to get to that pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Have I mentioned the two hour season finale coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the two episode season finale? I guess they

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<v Speaker 1>were on different weeks, which is not nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going to watch it one at a time

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<v Speaker 2>or both at it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you can decide? Good watch him let

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<v Speaker 1>me let me let me look at the descriptions of

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<v Speaker 1>the wold and see if they go together well or

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<v Speaker 1>if the first one ends on a good cliffhanner. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we could move it along by watching them all. I

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<v Speaker 1>know generally what happens over the arc of the two episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not really sure which happened when in each.

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<v Speaker 1>But this one was definitely a placeholder of which we

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<v Speaker 1>will be getting more over the seasons. Yeah, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough story to fill as many episodes. Okay, Well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like twenty four is more than a network show. Easy,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, twenty two is in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>As the Yeah, it was popular. They wanted to milk

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<v Speaker 1>it for as far as they guess, and we do,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, have to know these things about Kate eventually. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Just the island story was not all that compelling. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Jack did find out about the hatch, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Walt had his little prominent or whatever, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But other than that, it was you know, bickering over

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<v Speaker 1>a raft seat and you know, poisoning. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out to be Sun not wanting Gin to go, and.

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<v Speaker 2>But Kate put her up to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate put her up to it so that she could

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<v Speaker 1>get Gin seat. Presumably. Yeah, why she all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden wants to go, I don't know, because she realizes

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<v Speaker 1>that if they get rescued then she would get recognized. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, does jail sound so bad compared to this place, Kate?

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<v Speaker 2>And also, if you get rescued on the raft versus

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<v Speaker 2>if you get rescued on the island, what's the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still not going to get your face in the

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<v Speaker 1>paper if you get rescued in the raft in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of nowhere. I don't think so. Also, you know

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<v Speaker 1>there's a you could probably start your own little colony

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<v Speaker 1>there on the island with the people who don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back. So yeah, you know you and Locke

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, well Walt, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>He's changed his mind. He wants to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get away from But probably there's other people there. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you could join their club. You know, you're a you're

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<v Speaker 1>a fugitive from justice. You probably could fall in with

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<v Speaker 1>the evil cohort of the island.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, and you could you could hold your own with.

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<v Speaker 1>That whole boyfriend killed. You know, we've come to the

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<v Speaker 2>Lady, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>But just the way they what's Sawyer who everybody hates,

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<v Speaker 1>tells them that Cage is the fugitive, and then they're

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<v Speaker 1>all looking at her like it's the camera working, all

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<v Speaker 1>the actors look at her life. Oh that person we've

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<v Speaker 1>liked and who has helped us out and who has

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<v Speaker 1>delivered baby, hasn't done all this stuff. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, what she was a fugitive, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>don't already shun shut. Yes, yeah, that'll last five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jack is you know, very willing to overlook things,

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<v Speaker 2>as he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Good at keeping secrets.

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<v Speaker 2>But remember they said no more, No more lies. Last week,

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<v Speaker 2>no more lies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, we else have it that much.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, not much. It just wasn't. Oh, Charlie, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>got to playing guitar again and is writing songs and

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<v Speaker 1>is annoying people, which is sort of his place, and

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<v Speaker 1>the music was working very hard. I enjoyed that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed when Kate and her unfortunately doomed friend went

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<v Speaker 1>out to find the time capsule they had buried, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>of course pouring rain. They enjoyed the rain on this show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they must have invested big in a rain machine, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's also raining when Sawyer goes and shoots somebody. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>raining when these guys go out into the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere to dig up a lunch box with just do

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<v Speaker 1>we think a tape recorded? Yeah, with survive the box

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<v Speaker 1>buried in a place where it rains would still play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's a really good lunchbox, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess It's not even the Weird Island, so you

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<v Speaker 1>preserving things. Anybody associated with the Island is also carrious

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<v Speaker 2>Makes things apply, Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, not that much to say about this one, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>other than just move it along, right, let's go here

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<v Speaker 1>we come, let's keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So next Tuesday we will continue with season one, episode

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three of Lost Exodus, Part one. I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do the first part of the two part and just

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<v Speaker 1>stretch it out. Make me ways, if we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of part one and you say, bleep this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to watch the rest of it, then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it. But otherwise we'll just watch part one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's enough in there to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>These last two episodes are multi flashback. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how everybody got to their destination. Okay, so it

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<v Speaker 1>bounces around amongst all of them. So yeah, a little

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<v Speaker 1>more going on than this week. Yeah, So we will

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