Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property. And for this week of December second,
Speaker 1: we are continuing with Lost season one, episode twenty two,
Speaker 1: Born to Run, a Kate flashback episode. They could be
Speaker 1: subtitled Yeah, we're getting to the two episod season finale,
Speaker 1: but we got one more hour to fill.
Speaker 2: Yes, we get to see Kate traumatize her mother and
Speaker 2: get somebody killed.
Speaker 1: So traumatize her mother, but also, you know, you risk
Speaker 1: your life to go see your mom, who's ailing. You
Speaker 1: risk the life of your old friend and the career
Speaker 1: eventually the life of your old friend, and then you
Speaker 1: finally get to her, you orchestrate this whole thing. And
Speaker 1: what does she do? Did she say, oh, baby, it's
Speaker 1: so good to see you. Before I die you start
Speaker 1: screaming for help? Bad mom? First say oh honey, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy to see you. Did you lose some weight?
Speaker 1: And what color is your hair?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: No, first, she's just Anyea. That just seemed to fall
Speaker 1: into the bad mom category to me. Come on, show
Speaker 1: a little appreciation. She went to a lot of trouble
Speaker 1: to be here.
Speaker 2: Oh, we don't know what happened between.
Speaker 1: Them, We don't apparently not something yeah, but not something
Speaker 1: that would expect to be welcomed in such a way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess not.
Speaker 1: Oh man. And then well we're talking parenting. You know,
Speaker 1: you've got your bad dad here, Mackenzie asked in come on, man,
Speaker 1: you have a baby, you have a wife. You're going
Speaker 1: to risk your life for this old girlfriend and get
Speaker 1: yourself killed. That's bad. Don't do that. You are now
Speaker 1: a bad dad. You seem like a nice dude, but
Speaker 1: possibly judgment not so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't get in the car with her, is probably yes,
Speaker 2: Step one.
Speaker 1: Yes, she gave you an out, even though you probably
Speaker 1: would have been arrested and your career is ruined. But
Speaker 1: still you would have been Your son could have visited
Speaker 1: you in jail. But now nope, you're gone. Another one
Speaker 1: of a string of dads who need bad decisions that
Speaker 1: will impact their child's life forever. Nice work, buddy, Nice
Speaker 1: to see you though. Hey, how you doing? I remember you? Yes,
Speaker 1: last on this podcast, in the movie How to Deal.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, it's sister's fiance anyway.
Speaker 2: And then we're supposed to be all confused because they
Speaker 2: got they found you. Now we know the source of
Speaker 2: the little plane that case retrieved.
Speaker 1: Earlier in it And yet is it any more satisfying.
Speaker 2: Well, because now she left it in the backseat of
Speaker 2: the car when she took off, So now we got
Speaker 2: to assume that it got from there to the the deposit.
Speaker 1: My gosh, will we find out the secret of the plane?
Speaker 1: Will we know what happened to her? Oh, my gosh,
Speaker 1: such suspense. Oh and there's also this giant door in
Speaker 1: the floor of the jungle. But yeah, that plane, what
Speaker 1: about that plane?
Speaker 2: About that little plane. And also Walt knows.
Speaker 1: About that, Yes, and he senses something bad about it,
Speaker 1: and that causes him to tell Walk not to open it,
Speaker 1: and his dad that they have to go.
Speaker 2: And he is special, so we know that.
Speaker 1: Yes, do we mention his special?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: As if we could not have figured out that a
Speaker 1: giant middle door in the middle of the jungle is
Speaker 1: probably not going to lead to something great, let's add
Speaker 1: that little bit of foreshadowing, shall we. It's freak a
Speaker 1: little walled out. Yeah, And you know, speaking of island mysteries,
Speaker 1: what color do we think Kate's hair was supposed to
Speaker 1: be originally because she was Was she blonde and then
Speaker 1: she dyed her hair? Did she dye it back to
Speaker 1: brown or did she get the dye out? How do
Speaker 1: you get die out? Because if she's blonde and she's
Speaker 1: been in the jungle, Cowel, there's definitely an island Walgreens
Speaker 1: with some claaral products on the shelf.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that when they first showed her and
Speaker 2: she was blond, it for sure looked like a wig.
Speaker 2: So but then they showed her coloring it. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I don't understand. I'm so confused.
Speaker 1: These are the things that you don't put in the
Speaker 1: viewer's mind when they're watching a show in which people
Speaker 1: are on a dessert island for long periods of time.
Speaker 1: Completely unnecessary. She could have been brunette and died it blonde,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, then we would have bought it, right,
Speaker 1: although how long was this before the planet? Anyway, it's
Speaker 1: a magical island. It keeps your hair whatever color it
Speaker 1: was when you got there.
Speaker 2: Among its many other properties, there's.
Speaker 1: That don't ask glass Just nope.
Speaker 2: I can't do that for sure, hm.
Speaker 1: Amongst other significant things on this episode, we met Ourst,
Speaker 1: the expert in tides and winds and stuff. He's a
Speaker 1: high school science teacher.
Speaker 2: Showed up out of the blue. Never see him before.
Speaker 2: It's been twenty two episodes.
Speaker 1: He's just been hanging.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden we're listening to his.
Speaker 1: He just couldn't sit still, sit behind the palm tree anymore.
Speaker 1: He had to get up and say something.
Speaker 2: Apparently he did.
Speaker 1: But HELLI every now and then, we're just gonna have
Speaker 1: somebody walk out of nowhere, and everybody's going to know
Speaker 1: who they are.
Speaker 2: And everyone's going to listen to what they say and
Speaker 2: take it as gospel because.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, it's that guy. Come on, it's that guy.
Speaker 1: He's given us good advice before, we played lots of
Speaker 1: golf games. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's a science teacher.
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, well, don't get too attached. It's all same.
Speaker 1: But and now much drama about who's going to be
Speaker 1: on the round. Yes, I don't know if I was Michael,
Speaker 1: I don't think I had to take any of these jokers,
Speaker 1: Take your kid and go. In the morning, they'll wake
Speaker 1: up and you'll be gone, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But also the whole thing sounds extremely sketchy and
Speaker 3: like it to happen.
Speaker 2: Yikes. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yes, and they think it will be hard to find
Speaker 1: this island after they get help, which seems to suggest
Speaker 1: a advanced knowledge of where this storyline is going. But
Speaker 1: why would they think that it would be hard to
Speaker 1: find the island?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess because no one's found them yet.
Speaker 1: I gets so, But nobody didn't they established early that
Speaker 1: nobody was looking. No one's looking in the right place
Speaker 1: because they were someplace, of course, right.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: You know, I could see Walt saying that. But maybe Michael,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Nope, it's a
Speaker 1: small island. Maybe that's why he said it small island.
Speaker 1: Lots of lots of water, yeah, hopefully not poisoned water.
Speaker 2: Yes, but it's big enough for you know, at least
Speaker 2: two populations of people hanging out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I.
Speaker 2: Guess we're going to get to that pretty soon.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes. Have I mentioned the two hour season finale coming
Speaker 1: out of the two episode season finale? I guess they
Speaker 1: were on different weeks, which is not nice.
Speaker 2: Are we going to watch it one at a time
Speaker 2: or both at it?
Speaker 1: I don't know, you can decide? Good watch him let
Speaker 1: me let me let me look at the descriptions of
Speaker 1: the wold and see if they go together well or
Speaker 1: if the first one ends on a good cliffhanner. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we could move it along by watching them all. I
Speaker 1: know generally what happens over the arc of the two episodes,
Speaker 1: but I'm not really sure which happened when in each.
Speaker 1: But this one was definitely a placeholder of which we
Speaker 1: will be getting more over the seasons. Yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: have enough story to fill as many episodes. Okay, Well, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like twenty four is more than a network show. Easy,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, twenty two is in my mind.
Speaker 1: As the Yeah, it was popular. They wanted to milk
Speaker 1: it for as far as they guess, and we do,
Speaker 1: I mean, have to know these things about Kate eventually. Right,
Speaker 1: Just the island story was not all that compelling. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess Jack did find out about the hatch, and
Speaker 1: you know, Walt had his little prominent or whatever, right,
Speaker 1: But other than that, it was you know, bickering over
Speaker 1: a raft seat and you know, poisoning. But of course
Speaker 1: it turns out to be Sun not wanting Gin to go, and.
Speaker 2: But Kate put her up to it.
Speaker 1: Kate put her up to it so that she could
Speaker 1: get Gin seat. Presumably. Yeah, why she all of a
Speaker 1: sudden wants to go, I don't know, because she realizes
Speaker 1: that if they get rescued then she would get recognized. Really,
Speaker 1: you know, does jail sound so bad compared to this place, Kate?
Speaker 2: And also, if you get rescued on the raft versus
Speaker 2: if you get rescued on the island, what's the difference.
Speaker 1: You're still not going to get your face in the
Speaker 1: paper if you get rescued in the raft in the
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. I don't think so. Also, you know
Speaker 1: there's a you could probably start your own little colony
Speaker 1: there on the island with the people who don't want
Speaker 1: to go back. So yeah, you know you and Locke
Speaker 1: and uh, well Walt, I guess.
Speaker 2: He's changed his mind. He wants to.
Speaker 1: Get away from But probably there's other people there. Maybe
Speaker 1: you could join their club. You know, you're a you're
Speaker 1: a fugitive from justice. You probably could fall in with
Speaker 1: the evil cohort of the island.
Speaker 2: Fine, and you could you could hold your own with.
Speaker 1: That whole boyfriend killed. You know, we've come to the
Speaker 1: dark side.
Speaker 2: Lady, there you go.
Speaker 1: But just the way they what's Sawyer who everybody hates,
Speaker 1: tells them that Cage is the fugitive, and then they're
Speaker 1: all looking at her like it's the camera working, all
Speaker 1: the actors look at her life. Oh that person we've
Speaker 1: liked and who has helped us out and who has
Speaker 1: delivered baby, hasn't done all this stuff. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, what she was a fugitive, Like we
Speaker 1: don't already shun shut. Yes, yeah, that'll last five minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack is you know, very willing to overlook things,
Speaker 2: as he was.
Speaker 1: Good at keeping secrets.
Speaker 2: But remember they said no more, No more lies. Last week,
Speaker 2: no more lies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, we else have it that much.
Speaker 1: Huh, not much. It just wasn't. Oh, Charlie, I guess
Speaker 1: got to playing guitar again and is writing songs and
Speaker 1: is annoying people, which is sort of his place, and
Speaker 1: the music was working very hard. I enjoyed that. And
Speaker 1: I noticed when Kate and her unfortunately doomed friend went
Speaker 1: out to find the time capsule they had buried, it was,
Speaker 1: of course pouring rain. They enjoyed the rain on this show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they must have invested big in a rain machine, because
Speaker 1: not only is it raining all the time on the island,
Speaker 1: it's also raining when Sawyer goes and shoots somebody. Yes,
Speaker 1: raining when these guys go out into the middle of
Speaker 1: nowhere to dig up a lunch box with just do
Speaker 1: we think a tape recorded? Yeah, with survive the box
Speaker 1: buried in a place where it rains would still play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a really good lunchbox, I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess It's not even the Weird Island, so you
Speaker 1: can't even blame it on the island being weird and
Speaker 1: preserving things. Anybody associated with the Island is also carrious
Speaker 1: with them the aura of weirdness that.
Speaker 2: Makes things apply, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, not that much to say about this one, yeah,
Speaker 1: other than just move it along, right, let's go here
Speaker 1: we come, let's keep going.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So next Tuesday we will continue with season one, episode
Speaker 1: twenty three of Lost Exodus, Part one. I guess we'll
Speaker 1: do the first part of the two part and just
Speaker 1: stretch it out. Make me ways, if we get to
Speaker 1: the end of part one and you say, bleep this,
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch the rest of it, then we'll
Speaker 1: talk about it. But otherwise we'll just watch part one.
Speaker 1: I think there's enough in there to talk about.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: These last two episodes are multi flashback. It's sort of
Speaker 1: seeing how everybody got to their destination. Okay, so it
Speaker 1: bounces around amongst all of them. So yeah, a little
Speaker 1: more going on than this week. Yeah, So we will
Speaker 1: see you back here tomorrow to discuss shrinking. Thank you
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