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Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on Clipper Nation? How's everybody doing? Welcome

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to season three, episodes forty five of Clips and Dam

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I Am Chuck Mockler join with a fresh cut at.

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Adam Oslin. William Updyke is here as well. We got

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the full crew here to talk about all the hellish

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things that have been happening recently for the Clippers. We're

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gonna talk to trade too. I don't know if you're

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listening to us. Thank you so much for listening. If

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you'd like to watch us, find us at YouTube dot

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com Slash at Clippers Podcast. Like I said, we're gonna

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talk everything that's gone wrong over these last three games.

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We're gonna talk maybe if the bench can help us

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out before we get into it. Fellas, Adam, you've been

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having to answer to the public over at AM five seventy.

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How are you doing amidst this three game losing skid.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would have to answer to him if

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I didn't have them all in time out. Maybe. Yeah,

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it's it's been rough, a lot of panic setting in

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cole E's done, Clippers are cooked. All these things are

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happening right now, but I think a lot of it

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is just angst from the Lakers getting Luca and then

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blowing out the Clippers and then you lose them a

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different way where you're up twenty two and you should

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have been the team blowing out a different team wearing

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yellow out there. Instead they give that gave away last night,

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So I understand the frustration.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was not idea.

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Speaker 2: Will.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? How are you holding up?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing alright. It's weird. It hasn't been that long

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since we've last talked, but it feels like years. This

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wasn't you know, like a was a pretty entertaining trade deadline.

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You know, maybe not the hugest names move, but there

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was quite a bit of movement. And I think that

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that is one of those things that take in context too,

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is I think Clipper fans maybe feel a little bit

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differently if there wasn't this backdrop of the team performing

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so poorly without you know, some sort of major move,

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because I know that's kind of what everyone gets excited about.

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But you know, there is still there appears to still

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be a vision that we're headed towards. We haven't like

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completely veered away from that at the trade deadline, which

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I think is you know, is actually a really good thing.

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And it's also just one of those things where I

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liked that the Clippers aren't tying up more future assets

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to sort of open or extended the championship window that

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they really don't even know is there. If Kawhi Leonard

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isn't helping.

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Speaker 2: They don't know what's our year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bro get Laura, get Larry on the phone. Damn.

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Speaker 2: I thought there are listeners.

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Speaker 3: That's why you don't need a trade.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if there's no way that any player Boggeden's listening.

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What's that Bogdenhooker doing good? Yeah, Bogey and the chat.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize how old he was because I thought

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he was a little younger.

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Speaker 1: Serbian people, Serbian basketball players, they can play forever. He's

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got a real.

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Speaker 3: Young face, so good on him. He's got a wish rising.

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Speaker 1: He also has a ye yes haircut that yeah, I

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wouldn't pointed out. They like because it shows that he's

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not scared of anybody, which I appreciate. I mean, Okay,

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the Clippers have lost three in the row. We can

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talk about the turnovers. The defense has been horrid. There's

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no release valve. What is going on? This is it

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just fatigue because we look at some of the let's

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I guess, let's start with the turnovers nineteen versus the

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Bacers last night, which is a lot. Didn't even have

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that many in the two games before that against the

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uh Lakers and Raptors. But like, will, what do we

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see it? It's just like no one can start the

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offense other than James Harden and even he is having trouble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's looked a little lugubrious on that end.

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And then just like so much of when this team

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is firing on all cylinders, it's creating offense off of

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their defense, and we just haven't seen as much of

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that recently. And I'm hoping that's just coming down to

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fatigue because the game plan hasn't really changed. The personnel

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even after the trade deadline is largely the same. So

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you got to think that there is sort of a

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fatigue component wearing in. And it is difficult because I

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feel like the Clippers find themselves in the situation time

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and time again, sort of limping into the All Star break,

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which is never really where you want to be. It

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is understandable, you know, I mean, we've all worked jobs

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we've all had that kind of Thursday, if you know

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what I'm talking about. But h it is, it's just

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coming at a really poor time because there seems to

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be there's there's other teams in the West who after

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this trade deadline, are certainly looking to ascend. You know,

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it's already a very tight conference with you know, really

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only one spot separating them from having to play their

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way into the playoffs. It couldn't be coming at a

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worse time. But I'm my hope, my own is that

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this is one of those things that that can they

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can't right the ship post a little bit of.

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Speaker 1: A break and the schedule also, they've played a five

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and seven, then they basically have played every other day

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up until tomorrow, which is brutal. Then they have a

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back to back when they come back. But Adam, what

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are you seeing from this off? I love the point

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Will about defense leading to offense. They have one hundred

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and twenty defensive rating over the last three games. Not good,

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very bad. And yeah, I don't know, Adam, how are

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you feeling? Man? You had to watch the game in

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person last time. It feels like you should get.

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Speaker 2: A race for it goes back even further to me

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because if you go back seven games, they are nineteenth

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defensively over that time, and I think part of this

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is they're not creating the turnovers and getting as many

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points off of turnovers, where they're second best in the

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league to Okay, see over the last seven games, last

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seven games, are only creating twelve turnovers per game. On

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the season, they're a little over fifteen per game. That

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is a huge part of this Clippers team, their identity

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and how they play defense. They get deflections and they

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get easy offense on the other end. They need that.

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They have to have that, and they haven't recently. I

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think it could be tired legs. I take your point

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about playing every other day. I think that's part of

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what's been going on with Kawhi the last three games.

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He's looked a little bit gassed at times, and his

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minutes have gone up. So while he's kind of trying

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to get his wind, his minutes are going up. I

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think it's going to take time to stabilize. But yeah,

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I think look, last night was a little bit different

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because their defense was pretty darn good in the half court.

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You shouldn't win that game. And guys, there was a

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twenty eight point turnaround in eleven minutes in the second quarter.

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Twenty eight point turnaround in eleven minutes because at one

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point they had six straight turnovers and there was a

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nineteen point turnaround in less than three minutes around the

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three minute mark of the second quarter. That's fucking crazy.

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Speaker 3: Well, and you talk about ball pressure and the Clippers

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creating opportunities to pay only had seven turnovers like he

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got nineteen and the end of the team has seven.

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That's pretty tough game to win. You could just give

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me that part of the box score and I'd say

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they probably lost.

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Speaker 1: And that is the Pacers game their top I think

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they're top ten in transition scoring, so that plays right

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into their hand. They have guys on the bench who

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can run like it's god.

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Speaker 2: I first picked up on it in the game in

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Charlotte where they don't have LaMelo, they don't have.

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Speaker 1: A few guys anybody.

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Speaker 2: They weren't turning the ball over, and I'm like, what's

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going on here? How are the Clippers not taking advantage

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of this? Right now? They're bad and they're missing their

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best guys. Yeah, so that was kind of hmmm, are

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they given the same defensive effort there? And that's when

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coach lou after the Lakers lost, goes, no, no, no, I've

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been pissed for three games. Well that includes a game

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they won against Charlotte. He hasn't liked how they've been

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playing for some time.

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Speaker 1: And they're just chasing. They're chasing the other team literally

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in transition as they go out and get buckets against us,

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and a little bit in the half court sometimes people

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are pointing to, you know, Harden's effort on defense. Will

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that Lakers game. It wasn't super ideal. But now people

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are looking or watching Kawhi a little closer and how

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he looks like he's moving, and we talked about it

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in that postgame stream. Will It looks a little different

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than when he first got back. It's looking like, you know,

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it's kind of like gone out of order. Right those

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first couple games of Kawhi back, it was like, whoa

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this guy? We're seeing some pop like it's looking, you know,

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like there's some juice to it. And now we're in

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the oh. Now he's back to playing regular season basketball

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kind of in it, and we're seeing it turn look

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a little more like he's having to come back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that that was natural, And we

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talked on this show like I was a big fan

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of the way that they really gradually.

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Speaker 1: I am.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was the right thing. But now

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that he's up to actual game minutes, I still think

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that there's like another peak or another valley until he

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you know. I think you could bring him up one

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minute a week or whatever and still playing full, like

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a full minutes load like he's used to. There was

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still gonna be some off games. There were still going

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to be an adjustment period. He still has to get to,

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you know, whatever level of Kawhi he can. And I

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do think we're not losing games with him looking great,

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Like we've already seen snapshots of the performances he stayed

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on the floor. We haven't heard anything about the swelling,

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not that we would until it was too late, but

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we haven't heard anything. So those are all positives, like

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it leads me to believe that thus far, the team

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is convinced that the knee is reacting in the way

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that it's supposed to be, so I can trust that

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those performances are gonna come. We've already, Slay said, we've

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already seen glimpses of it, but it's it's not ideal.

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Like I said, there's there's sort of a conflagration of

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issues all happening at the same time, with internal and

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external forces. That just it doesn't feel great right now,

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but I do think, uh, you know, give it a

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week and you might feel a little different. It's all

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Speaker 2: During the All Star break, I'll feel different.

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Speaker 1: Then, Yeah, Will did you read a thesaurus before this episode?

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Because you've been dropping so no, I fucking it out.

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Speaker 3: That's my mad.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, let's do it. Yeah, that's up

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this new trade deadline. We got something I've heard of books.

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I've heard of them both. Can't read both paper and hardcover.

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Speaker 2: You don't walk around like Lebron which is the first page?

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Speaker 1: Right? Oh? I do that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh yes, I'm just ripping the covers off and

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put them in picture frames on the wall.

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Speaker 1: I on page one of War in Peace. I really

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like it so much. Adam, what are you seeing from Kawis?

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Is it just? I mean the rest is obviously going

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to help them coming up, and.

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Speaker 3: I think they might have another little rough stretch out

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of the break until they get.

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Speaker 1: Things back in And I'm not super worried about this

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in the long term for playoffs yet, but if we

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come back and you know, March, some are saying we

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were playing seventeen games that month, talk about a test?

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Speaker 2: Are we sure it's not eighteen now?

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Speaker 1: It might be. Yeah, they might be doing a game

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of day. But I don't think the long term where

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he's ready yet, but I would like to. So they

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got the Jazz on Saturday and then they got a

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back to back before the All Star break. Let's go

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to and want like, where you at on Kawi's defense?

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Do we just kind of I mean, we just kind

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of have to ride this out?

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other size. Some of Kawhi's defense hasn't been great, and

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it's looked to me like he's been a little bit tired.

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his fault when nobody else is helping the helper, and

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then Kawhi comes over late. They're like, oh, Kawhi was

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late there. It's like, no, he was trying to make

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up for somebody else's.

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Speaker 1: Mistake, the Zubot's problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that type of thing. I watched a possession

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against he clamped. There was a possession against the Lakers

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where in the second half he was trying to ramp

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things up and he had Lebron on the left wing,

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and Lebron had to give it up, and then Kawhi

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went and guard the other guy. I forget who it was.

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I was like, that look pretty good right there. That

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looked real good. So I think it's been a little

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bit spotty, but also overblown that it's been horrible or

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something like that. Out there. I would remind people. I

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just looked at the on off numbers with Kawhi versus without.

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games with Kawhi Leonard out there, which is better than

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their normal defst rating and would be like best in

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the league. And offensively, they have a one nineteen number

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still with Kawhi out there, which is like ten points

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better per one hundred possessions on the offense. Ben So

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the whole Kawhi has made us worse. Our defense is

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way worse and all these things. It's like, no, that's

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really like they've had some bad moments, but like last night,

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that is about their offense wrecking their defense. That is

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completely about their offense turning the ball over and getting

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all those transition points where it's really tough to play

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defense in those situations where you're just giving the ball

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up with some unbelievably pathetic turnovers at times, like just

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giving it up six straight turnovers, six straight turnover, I mean,

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is that a franchise record? Six possessions six straight turnovers

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and they were by four different guys. There were different

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guys were turning it over. And then they had two

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straight near the end of the game after a time

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out where normal I think stepped out of bounds and

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then it was what the James Harden won where he

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just got like run over at half court and gave

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it up. Yeah, there were some really inexcusable turnovers that

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to me is less about their half court defense was

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pretty good last night, but you let a team my

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dad get in transition and you're already looking gassed out there.

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like hope is concussion?

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Speaker 2: Is heay? I guess somebody shot Zu got eleven?

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Speaker 1: What so you mentioned in the turnovers and we're gonna

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about you know, Bogden spot in the in the rotation

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and stuff like that. There is no release valve now,

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like the release valve for James Harden is like shut off,

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like no one again, like no one can set anything up.

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What do we How does that get better? And I

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was not a fan of how KPJ played basketball, but

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he could initiate an offense better than anyone else on

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the team. It seems I'm not saying they shouldn't have

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traded him all that stuff, but like it's kind of horrifying.

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Speaker 3: I think that they're pretty confident in a buyout candidate

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or I don't think they would have gone I don't

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think they would have gone to that extreme at the

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trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I agree with that. I also think

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KPg was gone, Like either if they don't get anyone,

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they'd just rather ride with at least the front office

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would rather ride with Bogie and Done. Last night was

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so extreme and so bad. And yes, they've been bad

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with turnovers this year. They're bottom three, I think in

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turnovers per game. Last night was something else with the

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amount and the bunches of turnovers that were coming, Honey,

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bunches of turnovers, Like some of those are so inexcusable

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and so just embarrassing. Uh, they're better than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just and the vibes do we want to do?

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We want to talk like obviously.

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Speaker 3: The vibes and like the distribution of the turnovers that

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we got to talk about too, because like James Hornan

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was actually pretty solid with the ball. Uh, it's just

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some of the other guys that you don't normally, you

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don't normally expect, like Derek Jones Junior had three.

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Speaker 2: That's why, Yeah, I don't I'm checking his I wondered

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last night if that is that the most he's ever

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had in a game or tied for the most. Okay, no,

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he had nine once. I was I don't know about that,

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but it's gotta be one of Kawhi is pretty damn

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good taking care of the basketball. And to have five

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and the one he had against Yakam late in the

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fourth quarter before they took him out where he played

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looked to be fatigued and it was a really bad turnover.

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Is why I was kind of just laying there on

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the ground afterwards for a second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I want the All Star break to

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be now, is what I want for this team.

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Speaker 2: I think I said last year this team needed two

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All Star breaks because you remember how bad they looked.

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I hope it's not the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's not either. And I hope, like I

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don't know what, Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: They do have three days coming off coming up, so

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maybe that you know they I see a scenario where

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some of these guys are looking at that is and

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licking their lips, like, man, I got three days coming up.

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I hope there's not a foot out of the door.

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But some of the play recently kind of looks like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and James Harden the post game of Ability, man,

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he looked like he's ready for the three days off,

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like he was what will you watched it right before

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as what was it fifty seconds?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really short, but I kind of I

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kind of agree with the sentiment where he's like, you know,

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it's the NBA, you lose. He's been in this league

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for a long time. It's a lot of games. I'm

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sure every team that he's been on have gone through

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these stretches where it's like, you know, the like to

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people covering the team and fans, it's like all red

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lights are flashing, but when you're there on the court,

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it's kind of like, oh, just had a couple of

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bad days at work. Like it, you know, it's like

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it's not ideal. Obviously, these guys want to win and

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they can be so much better. But I, yeah, I

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can't be too hard on him. I gotta be honest

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with you. I can't be too hard on it. Like

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the you know, the on product stuff, like the on

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court stuff has kind of been shit. And I don't know,

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you know what here's supposed to like what he's supposed

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to say about that, Like what do you you know

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what he really should be getting into He's.

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Speaker 1: Supposed to name names? No, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you wanted to say it's all the

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second units fault or something. I like is that better?

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Speaker 1: Someone commented that I when I thought this was an

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interesting point that if PG would have said that that

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what Kawhi said, people would have been more upset, which

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I thought was for sure.

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Speaker 3: PG put his foot in his mouth every week and throw.

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Speaker 1: The ball at security guards.

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Speaker 2: Talking about false equivalence, is like, come on, like Kawhi

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has a misstep, Paul George is somehow yeah, shooting himself

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in the foot weekly. I I was a little bit surprised.

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Maybe because Will went to the thesaurus earlier. Would that

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be terse from what we saw from James Harden last night?

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Yeah that it was. Yeah, maybe it's just he didn't

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know how to like sometimes guys are upset. It's after

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a game. If you go for a runner, you get

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a workout done. I'm always amazed sometimes at how eloquent

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guys could be here articulate in a postgame interview when

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they're sitting there sweating profusely. Sometimes a guy just can't

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find the words. It's just like I have enough, I'm tired,

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I'm gassed, I just want to go home. Maybe that's

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what that was. I'm not going to read too much

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into it because there hasn't been a lot of that stuff.

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It wasn't like last year and this our identity or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And the locker room's been good, right, It's not like

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we're in a scenario where the locker room's weird. There's

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no power plays happening. Yes they you know, we traded

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Terrence Mann and Bones Hyland. No disrespect of those guys,

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but they weren't you know, holding the vibes together inside

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the locker room or anything like that. So probably fatigue.

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Probably you just lost your third game in a row

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in a really annoying way. It was they could have

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won the game.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, and well, like not to believe at

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this point to what you're gonna have too much of

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bros collared glasses. But at least when we go through

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these stretches, we know what this team is and who

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they are and where they're trying to get. Like, there

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is like an identity, there is an on court style.

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There is a roster built to built, you know, to

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perform in that on court style. It's not like last

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year where it was like every single time someone like

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this happened, it's like we got to throw out the

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whole damn drawing board.

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Speaker 1: What do we do now?

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Speaker 3: So I I you know, like, I'm I'm as bombs,

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I'm I'm I'm as upset as anyone else. But I

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will say it is a little bit consoling to know

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that at least like they got a point at the

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map where they know they're going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even a team like the defending champs, even a

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team like the defending champs and the Boston Celtics, I

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think just went through a stretch where they were five

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hundred over sixteen games or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lost the MAVs.

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Speaker 2: It happens, it does. Yeah, then they lose to the

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MAVs last night. I didn't even have Anthony Davis yet.

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Like these things, these they people say when the Clippers

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get blown out. Somebody the other day was like, this

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doesn't happen to championship teams. I'm like, oh, I don't know.

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The Clippers went into Boston and blew them out last

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season and they still won the championship. So I guess

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it can happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Especially in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: People think that everybody is like the like the the

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seventy three win Warriors team or something. It's like, no, dude,

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like championshipteen like the NBA season is long, it's gotten

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shorter somehow, and like historically it's gotten shorter. Like this

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stuff is gonna keep happening.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter seventy two win Bulls they lost, like

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the Expansion Raptors, that team that year.

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Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, I don't know. Let us know how

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you feel in the comments over at YouTube dot com

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slash at Clipper's podcast, So let's know how you feel

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on Twitter at follow anim au.

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Speaker 2: Come, I just know how you feel if they lose

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to the Jazz on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we are going to be in the building on Saturday,

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I believe all three of us are. And if they

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lose to the Jazz, we're hanging out with Dime and

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we're doing the post game because I will be red hot.

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All right, coming up, we're talking the new look bench.

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There were some trades they made, lateral plus moves, as

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I like to call it. If you're listening, there's gonna

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be some quick audio ads if you're watching, just a

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brief little moment is in with us. Uh So, we

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got rotation talk coming up in three two one.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into Clips and Dip, your favorite

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podcast about the Clippers. I hope. Uh. Look, we wasted

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a lot of time at the beginning talking about that

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people don't care about games on court stuff. Let's get

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into what the people actually care about. Trades, trade, deadline,

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roster changes. It's big and small. What happened? Folks? Where

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are we at? Guys? Who do we want to start with? Where?

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What's the marquee move? Here? Are we saying Bogie? Is

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that the marquee ad?

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Speaker 1: No? I think the move for bow Champ was the

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Speaker 2: Ad yes position by subtraction.

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Speaker 1: I say, yeah, oh really quick though, So they moved Bones.

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He got waved today.

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Speaker 2: I kind of I'm kind of shocked by that because

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they don't really have much a point guard. That's a

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great I thought that was a great situation for Bones.

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Speaker 1: I did too. I was surprised he was waived, but

472
00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:11,160
I hope the best for Bones. But damn, what a

473
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,119
fall from grace. Like minutes why he was second team

474
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,079
All Rookie and it was just like forced his way

475
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,200
out of Denver makes sense. Came to the Clippers. Seemed

476
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,400
like PJ. Tucker was his vet, which was bad.

477
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: This was the problem. Guy took him under his wing.

478
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,160
He took one guy under his wing, and then he

479
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,319
took him down with him and.

480
00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: It was the youngest guy who could be good on

481
00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:35,119
the Clippers. Fucking nightmare. Dude, what team is PJ on

482
00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:35,599
right now?

483
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,839
Speaker 2: By the way, did he get passed around four times?

484
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: Bones?

485
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: Did he end up back with Phoenix?

486
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,039
Speaker 1: Let me look.

487
00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: I his Wikipedia. His Wikipedia has not been updated. It

488
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,440
still says Clippers.

489
00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:53,839
Speaker 1: Oh he's updating, not himself.

490
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,759
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's kind of telling.

491
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: Raded three times in five days, Raptors.

492
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:04,599
Speaker 2: He's not expected to suit up for them, of.

493
00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: Course not he's a suit up. But he probably didn't

494
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,920
even leave twelve million dollars that just keeps.

495
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: Giving baby, Yeah, god what okay.

496
00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:19,079
Speaker 1: So now that that's out of the way, man is gone.

497
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,319
KPJ is gone. They got bog Dan who is per

498
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,480
Law Murray gonna have the KPJ role. I liked what

499
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,440
Loss said where he said, I think we have to

500
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,039
look at it outside of point Guard and more like

501
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,039
play Starter. Law talked about He asked James Harden about

502
00:24:39,079 --> 00:24:41,759
KPJ before the road trip. He said, you know, you're

503
00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:43,880
being asked to different things depending on who you share

504
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,480
the floor with. KPJ was the only reserved shot creator

505
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,759
Now that's bogy, which okay, I like the logic there,

506
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,200
But what if when what happens when James Harden in

507
00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:01,720
choire off the floor, what happens in this terrible shooting.

508
00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:03,920
He's having like one of his worst years old, the

509
00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:07,000
worst he's having the worst year I think is going

510
00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:07,599
to come back.

511
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,839
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about that, honestly, Like I think, bad

512
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,799
situation going on in Atlanta. They're just spinning their wheels.

513
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:16,319
Trey Young probably gets trade within the next year or so.

514
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,200
I think theygas were bad there their trade DeAndre Hunter trade.

515
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,839
They didn't get enough for him. Uh.

516
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: One in the live stream asked why would the Hawks

517
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,680
do this trade? And it's the hardest question I've ever

518
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,880
had to answer, because I was like, I don't know,

519
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,400
because they have like a weird front office with no goal.

520
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,880
It seems like or like they're.

521
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,599
Speaker 3: Spending a wheel. They have no like I just feel

522
00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:36,160
like they have no idea what they're supposed to do

523
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,640
right now. Ever since the Murray trade went completely haywire

524
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,960
and they've been a losing team since, it's just that, Yeah,

525
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,359
I don't I guess.

526
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: My guess is why I like the Bogey move so much,

527
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,440
and we kind of talked about Chef when you jumped

528
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,839
in with me on the live yesterday during the trade deadline,

529
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,079
and when they got him when the news broke, I

530
00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:56,880
was like, okay, what is this me for KPJ. And

531
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,319
then ten minutes later they sent him out. I was like, Okay,

532
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,160
this makes sense. They want to go by committee with

533
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:05,559
him and Chris Dunn. But in a playoff series, you're

534
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:09,279
probably not going to have both Kawhi and James Harden

535
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,240
off the floor at once. One of them should be

536
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,759
on the floor.

537
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,559
Speaker 1: I sure as shit, hope not like that would.

538
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: Be, so then you're not asking them to do a ton.

539
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,440
Those guys Bogie and Chris Done and Chris Down I

540
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,079
think has average six assists in a season before, like

541
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:26,599
he should be. I know there have been some bad

542
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,559
turnovers with the court in critical at critical times should be,

543
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,799
but I think they have enough for me to be

544
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,960
more comfortable in a playoff series than having well KPJ

545
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,799
and theory is better than all these guys handling the

546
00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:44,279
ball has never been in a playoff series, and his

547
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,079
play was very much up and down.

548
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy we don't have to see playoff KPg.

549
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,759
I can't watch dribble, dribble, mid range, clang, dribble, dribble,

550
00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:57,119
spin move mid range clayg not even looking at anybody

551
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,000
else on the court.

552
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:00,279
Speaker 2: Well, if you watch a Bucks game, you might see

553
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:01,240
it with Doc Rivers.

554
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that's true. Yeah, well, where are you

555
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,400
at on the bogie thing? We haven't gotten your take

556
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,200
on it. He has. He is having literally his worst

557
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,079
shooting year of all time. I think we all agree

558
00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:15,079
that's probably gonna come back in a better advice twenty

559
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,440
four games. Yeah, I haven't played a lot. I don't

560
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,480
know how you feeling, head like.

561
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:22,599
Speaker 3: I think that it was a good move. I think

562
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,480
it's kind of like the perfect sort of consolidation around,

563
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,240
like you know, uh Margins type of move that the

564
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:34,319
Clippers needed to make. I do think that bogie. You know,

565
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,720
he's older than I remember for some reason that I thought, but.

566
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: Old is he thirty?

567
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: No?

568
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I thought he was kind of mid thirties.

569
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,599
Speaker 3: I guess I thought he was like thirty. I thought

570
00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:53,119
he was like twenty nine to thirty. Anyways, I like

571
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,119
the move. I like the move. I think that it's

572
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,720
a bummer to see Terrence go. But this is a

573
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,559
this is more of a position of need in the

574
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:05,880
back court, even with having so many sort of guards

575
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,200
and tween airs, like, I do think that we need

576
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,240
somebody who can create for themselves a little bit more.

577
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:15,400
I have been as a whole, I feel like I've

578
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,400
been a little disappointed in Chris Dunn as a sort

579
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,920
of play center. I kind of thought that I kind

580
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,400
of thought that part of the reason Clippers fans had

581
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,480
wanted him so bad for so long was because he

582
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:29,759
was like a little bit better in that area.

583
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: And I don't.

584
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,079
Speaker 3: Know that that has been great, So I think that

585
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:37,720
that was something that was definitely needed. I still think

586
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,440
and I alluded to it earlier, but with KPJ being

587
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,640
gone again, I think that that's a move that need

588
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,279
to happen. I wonder I really want to know Tylu's

589
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,839
thoughts about it, if he's in alignment with the front

590
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:52,119
office on that one, or if that was them kind

591
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:55,599
of saving him from himself. But I would be really

592
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:02,680
surprised if there weren't another like creator ball handler, maybe

593
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,839
not necessarily a scorer, but a ball handler facilitator sort

594
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,359
of in their crosshairs.

595
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:11,319
Speaker 1: A Patty Mills type man.

596
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,799
Speaker 2: What about a guy who's like six ' nine and

597
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:16,920
doesn't like to shoot at all, but uh does have

598
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,759
some lathe and can dribble the ball.

599
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:21,319
Speaker 3: I do I do think there's like I do think

600
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:23,279
there's probably a Brogdenner Simmons move.

601
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: So Brogden's staying. I think David Aldridge was reporting that

602
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:29,279
Brogden's like they want him to stay.

603
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: Oh it's kinda surprising.

604
00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:34,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, they I talk about another franchise that doesn't know

605
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:38,359
what the hell they're doing right now. So maybe that

606
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,440
Winger Cook lat Winger Cook. Are you the first person

607
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,720
to ever say that? Yeah, dude, Winger for sure refers

608
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:52,759
to himself in third person. Wingers got this baby. So yeah,

609
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:54,559
So now we move to the bike because I agree

610
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,799
Will like that. We all, you know, we knew about

611
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:59,240
the floater, we knew about the defense from Chris down.

612
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:01,720
But in your you see what position he plays, and

613
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:07,359
you think, oh, probably okay with initiating the offense in

614
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,279
some kind of way. And you're right, it's been a

615
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:09,839
little this way.

616
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, I guess I thought he was like

617
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,119
more of a sort of a pat than type ball handler,

618
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,519
which again not like elite, but can set up the

619
00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:24,000
offense to a degree. Yeah, and Pabev was a much

620
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:24,920
better off the ball shooter.

621
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Yeah, it has been a little bit disappointing.

622
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:34,680
Aside from him being one for his last twenty two

623
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,079
from the outside, I thought the ball handling would be

624
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:37,880
a little bit better.

625
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,839
Speaker 1: He's made one more than us combined in the last

626
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,480
twenty two to three point attempts.

627
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. The defense is so good, and coach

628
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:48,599
Lou did say last night that could have been a

629
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,799
game where maybe he starts Chris done. It sounded like

630
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440
because they could have used another ball handler out there

631
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,160
and that accounted for the turnovers. But then he, I mean, is.

632
00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: He like is he that ballhand.

633
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: I think it's just only some of the burden.

634
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,319
Speaker 3: Yes, that's just not what I'm seeing on the court.

635
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: Well, Coach Lou also brought up how but then again,

636
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,160
we were up big, So I'm hoping they just stick

637
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,759
with the starting lineup because, like the numbers say, it's

638
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:20,000
been the best over so many minutes so far this

639
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:22,079
season in the NBA. Now, I don't know how it

640
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,079
adjusts after last night, but man, it probably is around

641
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:27,960
the same because they did get up big because of

642
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,599
the starting lineup. Guys, do you don't They almost tied

643
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,000
the record for three pointers made in the quarter last night.

644
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:36,680
They hit ten three pointers in the first quarter. The

645
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,119
records eleven, which happened against them when they were in

646
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:44,200
Boston this year's funny not the right word.

647
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: So that that the Tyleru quote about maybe starting Chris

648
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,480
Dunne terrifies me because now we're in this world where

649
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,000
we have a rotating starting lineup, Like, but he hasn't been.

650
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Doing that in a while. I mean, Chris Dune has

651
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,640
been out So if.

652
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: We go, I'm gonna be like, okay, Like this doesn't

653
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,960
instill a lot of confidence in me that were, you know,

654
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:10,400
game plan ready for the rotating starting lineups are not Like,

655
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,160
it's not I'm against them for a team that is

656
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,599
going to be an actual playoff team.

657
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,799
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I watched a lot of Bogey and Sacramento.

658
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,599
Oh yeah, Bob Danovich can bring the ball to the floor,

659
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,839
damn it. And he's he's a big body for that position. Like, yeah,

660
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:30,920
that does not happen last night six straight turnovers if

661
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,200
Bogey is out there, Okay, I'm not saying he's a

662
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,759
cure all for everything, and he's been banged up and

663
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:38,440
the shooting hasn't been there. But I feel like a

664
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,799
lot of this is going to be fixed with just

665
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:42,279
a change of scenery. Like he is. He's been on

666
00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:44,880
the trade block for the last couple of years in Land.

667
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,839
As we mentioned, they're going nowhere fast, and he can

668
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,519
hail the ball, he can roll.

669
00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: There are some stops too for a player that I

670
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,759
feel like you can't really fairly assess where their skill

671
00:32:57,839 --> 00:33:00,240
set and where they're at in their careers. And for

672
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:02,880
me at Lena is firmly one of those stops right

673
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,559
now where it's like a guy has a bad stretch

674
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,039
in Atlanta. And I'm not, like, I don't know how

675
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:10,720
much you're reading today if I'm being perfectly like, no disrespect,

676
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,480
no disrespect to any Hawks fans, but like, how can

677
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,160
you like they don't know what the hell they're doing,

678
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,960
how can you expect him to, like, you know, have

679
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:20,359
even average numbers.

680
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any Hawks fans who are fans

681
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:26,480
of the front office, you know, Like I think, hey,

682
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:28,960
there's blat winger Cook. You know that we all sit

683
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:32,720
cool aid sometimes, Hey, That is very true. That is

684
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,440
very true.

685
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: I'm really hoping this is like Randy Moss with the

686
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Raiders and they're about to get Randy Moss with the

687
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,920
Patriots with Bookie.

688
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:47,359
Speaker 1: Brady. That part why Tom Brady, James Harder. Okay, who's

689
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,160
Kauhi on that on this team? Now, we don't have

690
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,839
to do this, Okay. I hate when people do that.

691
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,039
Explain the explain the.

692
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: Lucat the multiflated last night. Is that why there were

693
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,480
so many tall Yeah?

694
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: Okay, you know the Ben Simmons talk. Robert Flabb has

695
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,440
been throwing water on the Ben Simmons fire that Adam

696
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,519
Will and Will Updyke have been stoking.

697
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: I mean, it's mostly Will, but I have hopped on.

698
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,639
I think it's a good call.

699
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: I think I'm not saying it's done at work, but

700
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,079
like to me, it's a high upside move that if

701
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:26,199
it's a bile risk, if it's a buy out, there's

702
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,199
like truly no lower risk. Robert flam I think, brought

703
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,000
up the only valid point that that I could see

704
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,480
as a negative, which is if Tylo for some reason

705
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:39,920
favors Ben Simmons and he gets undue or unearned minutes

706
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:44,159
which we do know a way that can happen we

707
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:48,639
have seen, we have seen happen before. But aside from that,

708
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,679
which again I mean that could happen with any player

709
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:52,199
on the roster.

710
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,559
Speaker 2: So I'll still say this though, with a buyout guy,

711
00:34:57,159 --> 00:35:00,239
when you are selling them to come here and we're

712
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,039
gonna do this for you, that can lead to there

713
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:08,920
are assumptions being made, their expectations from that buyout guy

714
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:13,199
that I'm going to get minutes, And yeah, Rob ain't

715
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,199
wrong there.

716
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:17,559
Speaker 3: So yeah, does he really want the minutes? Though? Like

717
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,199
I'm sorry, but like where Ben sums career? Is he

718
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,320
walking his way into Tyler's office and demanding more minutes?

719
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,320
Because that is not what I'm seeing on the floor.

720
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: And so but it's it seems like it's between the

721
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,000
Calves and the Clippers. There might have been a third team,

722
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:35,880
but I had to make.

723
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,599
Speaker 3: Up for all the the main two context.

724
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: Would he have a bigger role on the Calves than

725
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,360
the Clippers.

726
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,039
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. They have more bigs.

727
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:48,119
Speaker 2: Shouldn't, right, like shouldn't they shouldn't want to play small

728
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:48,880
ball like ever?

729
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: Right there?

730
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 2: So actually that's not true. If you play Boston, you

731
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,519
got to prepare for that, and that's why I like

732
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:58,039
the DeAndre Hunter move for them. But I like what

733
00:35:58,159 --> 00:35:59,960
Will was saying. I think it makes a lot of

734
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:03,440
says you go for one in four out with then

735
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,199
Simmons playing the center and the small ball unit. I

736
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,719
think that's interesting. I think that's something that could work

737
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,239
at times.

738
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: I love the passing. I know that he's had the

739
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,239
back issues and he's, you know, maybe not the explosive

740
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,679
player that he once was. I still like the upside

741
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:21,400
of the athleticism. My other thing is if he, let's

742
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,880
say this deal happens tomorrow, he is the what no like,

743
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,639
what number of best ball handler on the second unit?

744
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,159
Top three, easy.

745
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: To have, top two guys, he's the best.

746
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: He's probably he's the.

747
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,039
Speaker 1: Best easily because you're asking him. Yeah, he's not as

748
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:42,039
good as he once was.

749
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 3: But the only question mark is if you can put

750
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,519
enough spacing around in on that, which we can well, because.

751
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,119
Speaker 2: With Bogue now I think he definitely can.

752
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're also he's coming in to dribble the

753
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,639
ball up the court, be a play starter, make good cuts,

754
00:36:58,159 --> 00:36:59,440
attack the attack.

755
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: The rim anytime, they like, they dare him to shoot anytime,

756
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,920
like they're they're slacking off of them.

757
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:07,599
Speaker 1: Just go for it, buddy, play above average defense from

758
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,920
what we've gotten from our other backup centers, which should

759
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,239
not be difficult.

760
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: Well, he's a he's a solid rod defender, a solid reminder.

761
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: Like, Hey, I havn't said that you Banks looked all

762
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:17,679
right last night?

763
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,039
Speaker 1: You did? He looked okay, Drew Banks Man, he might

764
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:25,079
listen to the show. I'm just guessing it.

765
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: You can you bank on it?

766
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, so what we need some local ads for that? Yeah?

767
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,119
If you Banks makes a bank shot, the crowd should

768
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:35,599
get something you bank.

769
00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:38,679
Speaker 3: Play them both together. Call it the Simion lineup, like

770
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,559
the money from the sims because and the bank.

771
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: That's a good call like that.

772
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:49,199
Speaker 2: It's crazy that we talked about this off air beforehand.

773
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,599
Speaker 1: So you guys are going, Ben Simmon, is there anyone

774
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,960
at like brogging off the table? Who else is even

775
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,360
a pot?

776
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: Like?

777
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,199
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anyone really talk about Yeah Simmons for

778
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,760
the Clippers, I'm not here.

779
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:08,519
Speaker 3: Sorry, well oh no, no, no, Well and like Valenti, ha

780
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:11,079
just got moved for about the deal that we thought

781
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,559
it seemed wild reporting was out on that because initially

782
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,440
it was like two seconds, and then some people were

783
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,920
saying they wanted to first, and then it ended up

784
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,519
being like two seconds. And you know, Olynic it like

785
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,199
it's not a buyout candidate. I feel like he coming

786
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,840
into the season with somebody I could see, is he not?

787
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,599
Speaker 2: For some reason? Maybe I thought I heard that earlier

788
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,639
he might be. Now I don't know. Wait did he

789
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:40,039
get wait Pelicans trading branding over the Raptors for Killyolinox. Okay,

790
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:42,639
we knew that. That's from me yesterday. Now, I just

791
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,280
thought I heard somebody say maybe he's a biout candidate

792
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,039
with New Orleans.

793
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Kelly Olinok is one of my least

794
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,880
favorite archetypes of players, which is people who went to

795
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,800
god Zaga.

796
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would make sense, It.

797
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,199
Speaker 1: Would make sense if he was on the team. Yeah,

798
00:38:58,199 --> 00:38:59,920
so it's really kind of Ben simmons.

799
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: Or could teach you how to grow his hair out.

800
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:05,159
Speaker 1: Okay, that would be incredibly valuable for this team. We

801
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,719
haven't even talked about that yet. Talk about a quiet

802
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,199
trade deadline, No talks about Zoo's playing to grow his

803
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,239
hair out to get more foul calls. All right, anything

804
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:21,039
else on the roster before we look ahead to a funny.

805
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,159
Speaker 3: Adam, how much Marion film have you watched?

806
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: There's not a.

807
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,639
Speaker 2: Lot, so bow Champ. You know that's a bio candidate. Actually,

808
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:35,960
I hope, I hope he stays around. He's got size,

809
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,559
he's a wing.

810
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:40,199
Speaker 3: I don't know, you don't think he's the new Terrence Man.

811
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:43,519
Speaker 2: I'm not that familiar with him, honestly. Yeah, we're just

812
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:44,599
looking up the raw numbers.

813
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, is he playing less than five minutes a game?

814
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:50,599
Speaker 1: He posted some highlights, like a highlight video someone made

815
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:52,119
for him, and they're all from the Drew League, and

816
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:56,480
they weren't incredibly impressive. So that's what I'm going What

817
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:58,719
six seven though something?

818
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: Let's say they because they have an open roster spot

819
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:04,840
right now. Yeah, so let's say they bring someone in

820
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,760
on the buyout. That but I'm saying, like, if you

821
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,239
bring someone in on the buyout, then to get Jordan

822
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,400
Miller to a standard, maybe you buy above Champ.

823
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,639
Speaker 1: I don't know how many games does Miller have left?

824
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,639
Speaker 2: Like, I think it's done. I think it's fifty is up?

825
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Carlo and I were talking about this the other day.

826
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't think Boucher and if you like,

827
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,960
we're gonna work another guy into the rotation, like I

828
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,760
don't want that.

829
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: That was getting rid of KPJ is what that was.

830
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: Also the statement the team released on it was just

831
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,880
like here's how much he averaged. End of comment about

832
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,039
BJ joining the Clippers, like there was no like we

833
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:45,559
value his x y z da da da da Like

834
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,119
it was boilerplate.

835
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,599
Speaker 2: I thought even Patty Mills doing his introductory pressor for

836
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,519
him and you Banks that day a couple of days ago,

837
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,119
was being really cryptic with what his role could be,

838
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:57,320
and it made me think, like they tell him, yeah,

839
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,480
this this could be a place you get bought out.

840
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,519
Also like all right, but Patty Mills, if you keep somebody,

841
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:05,320
I would think it would be him, because he's being

842
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,519
a good vet. Yeah, got familiarity with some guys.

843
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:10,679
Speaker 1: And shout out to all the Australian Clippers fans. Get

844
00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:13,639
your Patty Mills jerseys as quickly as possible. Unclear how

845
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:16,840
long Mills will be available for interesting number choice on

846
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,719
his part, but I won't get into that on air.

847
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,400
Coming up, we are going to be talking the Clippers

848
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,840
playing the Jazz. Not gonna go super in depth on this.

849
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,440
I think we all know what we want to see.

850
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:31,800
If you're watching. Thank you. If you're listening and want

851
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,639
to watch, go ahead and subscribe at YouTube dot com.

852
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:38,920
Shack Clippers podcast brief Break and then talking the Jazz

853
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:40,159
coming up in three to.

854
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:43,639
Speaker 2: One Welcome back. In his Clips and Dip episode forty

855
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:45,519
five of season three, I'm at a masle. We got

856
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:49,440
chef Macklin will Updike here and we need a victory

857
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:53,639
tomorrow night, dude. And I'm not just saying any victory. No,

858
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,679
they get by on the skin of their teeth against

859
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:58,480
the Utah Jazz. We are still going to have a

860
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:00,559
ton of questions about this team. Don't tell me a

861
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:04,519
wins a win. We need style points against Utah. I'm

862
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,760
not trying to disrespect them. I'm not trying to overlook them.

863
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,119
If the team does, they will be in trouble. But

864
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,599
from a your perspective, a fan perspective, you want to

865
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:14,880
see the Clippers come out and do what they were

866
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,039
starting to do early in that game against the Pacers

867
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:17,920
and finish it off.

868
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: And this is, weirdly enough, the third time this season

869
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,159
the Clippers will be on a three game losing streak

870
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,119
and then play the Jazz. So can we really be

871
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:34,360
mad at the schedule makers, slumpbusters.

872
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:37,679
Speaker 2: The salt Lakes.

873
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: The Salt Lakes, slumpbusters, dude, been there before. We have

874
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,559
to I don't like I was trying to type up

875
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,000
some bullshit notes about what we need to do in

876
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:51,840
this game. But you know what, it's the jet. We

877
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,840
know what we need to do. Everyone has their job.

878
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,719
Gives you the ball if things are going getting sticky,

879
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,320
or shoot better than whatever the hell he shot last night,

880
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,639
which was very bad. From three, like, do the start

881
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:11,719
with defense right, clamp them down defense to offense. We

882
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,400
know what this team. We've beat them the two other

883
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,679
times we played them after losing three games in a row.

884
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,159
We beat them so.

885
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: Hard to beat the same team three times straight though.

886
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:26,199
Speaker 1: It's not not this Jazz team and not you know, yeah,

887
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,599
I'm gonna be furious if we lose this game. Well,

888
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:30,679
do you have any actual analysis? I'm sorry I didn't

889
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:32,840
put any in the breakdown, but I'm just furious from

890
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,159
this three.

891
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,679
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a this is a must win,

892
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:40,039
Like truly, this is you know they've slipped out that

893
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:41,599
they're in the plane right now.

894
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: Lak hold on, guys, hold on, I'm like double checking this.

895
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,199
The Utah has won two of three, and their two

896
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,400
wins are against Orlando and Golden State. I know that's

897
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:04,719
not Boston Cleveland, but they won both those games and

898
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,320
they beat Indiana.

899
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: Are the Blazers on like a six game win streak.

900
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 2: The Blazers have been playing well.

901
00:44:10,679 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: They're killing it. Yeah, they beat the Pacers right before

902
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,239
the Pacers beat us.

903
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,159
Speaker 2: It's like the bad teams are colluding together and being like, Okay,

904
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:21,280
we know we're all going for Cooper flag, right, but

905
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,639
we're all going to try a little bit right now

906
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:26,119
before we go back to chasing their captain of the flag.

907
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,119
Speaker 3: I think you know we've we've been obviously because we

908
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:32,519
cover the Clippers. We've been hyper focusing on the Clippers

909
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:36,719
kind of malaise leading into the All Star break. This

910
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,320
is why you're seeing some of these younger, less experienced

911
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,320
teams rattle off a few wins like this. This is

912
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,760
not the only team that the fatigue that's in. For sure,

913
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,079
they've had a more shit schedule than a lot of

914
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:50,880
other teams. But like, this is happening across the league,

915
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,960
and it does happen across the league every year, and

916
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,920
and these these are the type of teams that are

917
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,760
going to capitalize on that and take advantage of that.

918
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,679
And that being said, that's why they need to come

919
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:02,960
out and set the sort of tone early and actually

920
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:06,239
hold on to it, uh to get this most win game.

921
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,639
Speaker 2: Ain't got that dog in them days right now? For

922
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,039
a lot of teams he that.

923
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Clippers are facing those allegations right now.

924
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,519
Speaker 2: Check the X ray.

925
00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 3: If you're used to getting your teeth caved in on

926
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,000
a night to night basis and you're playing a team

927
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:25,880
that's maybe given seventy five percent effort, I'm telling you

928
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,960
you're you're you're biting at that opportunity every single time.

929
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've in high school. I played on some Jazz esque,

930
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:35,480
some Blazers esque teams. I know what it's like when

931
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,519
you when you roll up against the team where you're like, oh,

932
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:39,280
we can beat this team. I guess because they don't

933
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,920
give a ship And that's the only reason. Adam, what's

934
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,360
one thing you want to see from this game from

935
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,320
the Clippers?

936
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: Twelve turnovers or less? Twelve turnovers are less?

937
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:59,039
Speaker 1: High Yeah, a lotto ticket too, man, Twelve turnovers.

938
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,159
Speaker 2: Are less and a visa's bos getting up at least

939
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:02,559
twelve shots. How about that?

940
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: God the bar is solo, you need you need one more? Twelve,

941
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I feel like.

942
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Speaker 2: And twelve may threes. That's not enough. I was like, wait,

943
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,320
that's kind of only twelve misses from three.

944
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go twelve assists from Harden, say twelve to

945
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,559
turnover ratio from Harden twenty four and.

946
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: Two at least twelve from Bogie. Twelve points.

947
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,519
Speaker 1: Never were a big numerology pod.

948
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: Now let's start the game at twelve. Let's go matten

949
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a matt Is baby.

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Speaker 1: Hey, screw it baby to wake them up. Yeah, I

951
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,440
think I like the turnover thing is nice. I want

952
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,800
to see just just be just a hound of the boards.

953
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,159
Get back to the stuff that we were surprised from

954
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:53,639
early in the season with how competent the Clippers were

955
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:56,880
on the glass. Show that the and that's an effort statue.

956
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,840
Some of the times reboards are very much rebounds are

957
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:02,840
for sat a little bit like let's let's dominate the

958
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,800
glass on this one, like let's let's make it happen

959
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,239
now for the most important part. And now I think

960
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,159
because it because it's a losing streak, do we talk

961
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,159
about this earlier that everyone is now on the table

962
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:14,960
for player of the game.

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00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,119
Speaker 3: We have not, but I love it.

964
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:20,599
Speaker 1: It seems fair. We're bad.

965
00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the lone positive of the Clippers losing

966
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,920
three games in a row. We get more selections more.

967
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, selfe yeah, okay, Adam, who you're going with for

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00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,559
the player of the game against the Utah Jazz? So

969
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:41,079
we play the Jazz tomorrow, then we get three days off,

970
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:43,519
then the back to back is Memphis and then the

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Jazz again. So that's interesting. Shout out the schedule makers there.

972
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,159
Who's your player of the game for this one?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's playing, so I guess I'm

974
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,079
taking a risk here, but I'm going with Bogie. I

975
00:47:56,119 --> 00:47:58,880
want to see Bogie playing. I'm a big fan, guys,

976
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,000
he's been a Lakers killer.

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Speaker 3: Starting lineup unlocked, and he's going. He's going Bogie.

978
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Speaker 1: I love true believer.

979
00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah that thirty about to turn to sixty percent from

980
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,079
me outside.

981
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna have John Wall numbers from out there.

982
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,159
Uh well, well, who is your player of the game

983
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,599
pick against the Utah Slombusters.

984
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,599
Speaker 3: I'm going big Zoo. I'm going big Zoo because I

985
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:29,679
think if things aren't going right. We just gotta we

986
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,639
gotta get back to what works. If we gotta get

987
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:34,719
back to business. And I'd like to see I mean,

988
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i'd like to see a twenty.

989
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,559
Speaker 1: Point twenty point that won't sign me up.

990
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been playing too many minutes. I need

991
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,760
to blow out. I don't want to see that.

992
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: Twelve and ten is what you want to see because

993
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,239
it's just out of hand at that point.

994
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,199
Speaker 3: He's doing it in twenty eight minutes.

995
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. Norm just got picked for the three

996
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,880
Point Contest, which is awesome fucking time.

997
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but part of the reason he would make

998
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,239
the All Star team is because they didn't get him

999
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,880
in last year in the three Point Contest, which would

1000
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,119
have put a spotlight on him and more people would recognize.

1001
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:09,239
I'm gonna know how good he's been.

1002
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, well, Norm's been so consistent. I mean

1003
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,840
he was off last night from deep I'm actually gonna

1004
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,079
switch it up James Harden. The vibes that we saw

1005
00:49:19,199 --> 00:49:23,039
and that presser. I hope Harden has a remember who

1006
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:26,360
I Am game against the.

1007
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,519
Speaker 2: Jazz Kevin Durant, Do you know who I am?

1008
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 3: Game?

1009
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,079
Speaker 1: Man talk? About a bad locker room. I hope nothing,

1010
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:34,639
but I hope nothing but bad.

1011
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: Draymond and Jimmy they're on. They're like this, they're on

1012
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:38,440
the same pitch.

1013
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, I'm going James Harden, and if James Harden

1014
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,079
has a good game, the Clippers will most likely win

1015
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:49,679
this game. Anything else on this Clippers versus Jazz game.

1016
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,119
I just got the confirmation. Will should be in the building.

1017
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:54,960
If you see us, come say hey, anything else you

1018
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,400
want to talk about regarding the.

1019
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: Jazz SLC punked is about to go down?

1020
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:07,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should. They should still be in New Orleans

1021
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:08,280
as far as I'm concerned.

1022
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into it. Let's open that up more.

1023
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:14,599
Speaker 2: Makes no sense now.

1024
00:50:14,679 --> 00:50:17,039
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. What's the joke from basketball

1025
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:22,320
where music is illegal? They about the team movement from ball?

1026
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: Underrated? Love it you.

1027
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: Guys, rip on me thirteen fourteen more. Where I'm out

1028
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,400
of here a little bitch, dude, there's some great lie.

1029
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:32,239
All right, we're gonna go. We're gonna go. I'll watch basketball.

1030
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,760
Next game after the Jazz game is the twelve verst

1031
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,599
the Grizzlies, So there's some time off. We're not doing

1032
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:41,639
an episode on Sunday. We'll probably have an ap out

1033
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:45,400
on Monday to talk about some good things that are happening,

1034
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,239
maybe some buyout news will Now that the team is

1035
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,119
not playing well and people want to listen all they

1036
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:56,360
can about them, where can people find and share their

1037
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,119
thoughts about what they think of this podcast?

1038
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, best place to find this podcast is over

1039
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,039
on YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast. You can

1040
00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:10,000
subscribe there. Hit the little bell to get notifications anytime

1041
00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:11,559
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1042
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:14,280
doing the whole video thing, or if yeah, I don't know,

1043
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,599
you just like to listen MOI you're in your car

1044
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:17,320
or whatever, you can check us out wherever you get

1045
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,400
your podcast. If you have to listen over on Apple

1046
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,119
Podcasts or Spotify, leave a little radi to review. It

1047
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,760
helps us out put. However you listen to the show,

1048
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:26,119
you know we appreciate you.

1049
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: We do. And we just got a five star review

1050
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:32,960
on January twenty sixth from Clipper IRV that said, been

1051
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,159
listening to these guys since locked on and still haven't

1052
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:37,559
missed an episode since I've started. Adam being in the

1053
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:39,920
mix made the show that much better. Keep up the

1054
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,400
good work. Hey, thank you Clipper big Earth.

1055
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:45,599
Speaker 3: Let's go and Adam.

1056
00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: One positive thing, this is my bigger heart is well

1057
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,280
all here, one positive thing to send Clippers fans into

1058
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,039
this must win weekend.

1059
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,639
Speaker 2: I got a feeling and I don't want to say

1060
00:51:57,639 --> 00:51:59,440
this look.

1061
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,599
Speaker 3: Tonight, good night.

1062
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that might be uh. Then we get the girl,

1063
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,039
then we get the Khakis, then we.

1064
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,599
Speaker 2: Get the Okay, Kawhi had eleven points in that fourth quarter.

1065
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,960
He played ten minutes. I think of that fourth quarter.

1066
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:19,280
We want to see him build and hopefully he's on

1067
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,039
the injury report and he's playing ready to go against

1068
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:25,239
the Utah Jazz for another thirty four minutes because he

1069
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,199
was just under thirty four and nobody knew that was coming.

1070
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,599
So there are some good signs. As much as we've

1071
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:33,719
talked about you looking a little bit tired, I think

1072
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,760
this might just be part of the process. This is

1073
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,559
what you have to go through to get your win back.

1074
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:39,239
Because he didn't have a training camp and it's only

1075
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,679
been thirteen games so far, and the minutes had just

1076
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,400
been going up slightly over the weeks. So let's see

1077
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,320
what happens. But I'm at least encouraged by eleven of

1078
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,920
what his eighteen points I think in the West quarter

1079
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,159
or something.

1080
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: With that, there we go, encourage trust the process. Yeah,

1081
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,440
injury report will be out round five thirty. I'll tell

1082
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,360
you what. If Kawai's on it, we might all be

1083
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,920
back in these seats. But thank you everyone for hanging

1084
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,079
out and as always, let's go clips