Speaker 1: A beautiful summer Thursday afternoon here in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah.
Speaker 1: The sun is shining, and as it is every single day,
Speaker 1: it's good to have you along for the Riodte Spence
Speaker 1: Checket's behind the Mike, Porter Larsen beyond the Glass today
Speaker 1: producing the program marathon eight hour radio shift. Last night,
Speaker 1: it started at two ended about nine to forty five
Speaker 1: as we took you through the first round of the
Speaker 1: NBA Draft, and we are going to do the same
Speaker 1: tonight for the second round, where we will break down
Speaker 1: players that you've never heard of, and several of whom
Speaker 1: will never play in the NBA. But maybe we'll get,
Speaker 1: you know, a Draymond Green, a Paul Millsap, something like
Speaker 1: that a second round or that actually makes a difference.
Speaker 1: But we will talk draft today, We'll talk jazz today.
Speaker 1: We will talk the boldness of young Austin Ange and
Speaker 1: what it could mean for the Utah Jazz moving forward.
Speaker 1: A lot of people applauding what the Jazz did last night,
Speaker 1: a lot of A plus grades, a lot of celebration,
Speaker 1: and the fact of the matter is, we never know. We
Speaker 1: just have no idea how these young prospects are going
Speaker 1: to turn out. But Ace Bailey Walter Clayton Junior, the
Speaker 1: newest members of the Utah Jazz and Jazz Brass, seem
Speaker 1: to be very, very excited about who Austin Ainge described
Speaker 1: the two players that they viewed as best case scenario
Speaker 1: if they were able to walk away. Now, let me
Speaker 1: be clear, every team says that it's kind of like
Speaker 1: if you're a college football fan, national Signing Day rolls around.
Speaker 1: Yet we got everybody we wanted, we got everybody we offered. No,
Speaker 1: you didn't whire you the forty fifth ranked class in
Speaker 1: the country. But coaches are going to coach front offices
Speaker 1: are going to give you the front office spin. But
Speaker 1: I like it. I like what they did. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about it and we'll talk about what could be next
Speaker 1: for the Jazz. We'll talk some NBA off season, and
Speaker 1: we'll get to all the storylines surrounding Round one and
Speaker 1: get you ready for Round two tonight. There still are
Speaker 1: a ton of rumors flying about the Jazz during this offseason,
Speaker 1: what they could do, what they're looking to do. Minor
Speaker 1: trade made about thirty minutes ago. Clinton Nets, who've made
Speaker 1: all five of their picks last night, are trading number
Speaker 1: thirty six in the draft tonight to the Phoenix Suns
Speaker 1: for two future second round picks. The Sons have thirty six,
Speaker 1: fifty two, and fifty nine tonight as they continue to
Speaker 1: try to fill out their roster after moving on from
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant the Utah Mammoth. I almost sad hockey club,
Speaker 1: but we moved on from the Utah Mammoth. Made a
Speaker 1: trade yesterday. We'll talk about that on the show today.
Speaker 1: I like it. We're gonna say goodbye to a couple
Speaker 1: of young players. We're pretty exciting, but I think this
Speaker 1: is a good move by Bill Armstrong, who continues to
Speaker 1: impress me with his pedigree, his knowledge, and his ability
Speaker 1: to execute. So a lot to do on the show.
Speaker 1: Diego Luna was named an All Star yesterday, RSL's young midfielder.
Speaker 1: Second straight All Star appearance for Diego. The last time
Speaker 1: that happened for RSL was way back in twenty thirteen
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, when the Wall of the wasats. Nick Ramondo
Speaker 1: himself made consecutive All Star Games. Kyle Beckerman did two
Speaker 1: Javea Morales. But been a while, Been a while, so
Speaker 1: we'll deal with RSL on the program today. In addition
Speaker 1: to all the other stuff that we have going on,
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker gets a ten weeks suspension. Of course, he
Speaker 1: was let go by the Ravens. Not a good look
Speaker 1: for Justin Tucker. We'll see if he gets picked up
Speaker 1: by any team. Not a lot of offseason NFL or
Speaker 1: college football news right now. Kind of a dead time
Speaker 1: for the sport that drives a lot of the content
Speaker 1: as fall is approaching. We're what sixty five days I
Speaker 1: believe away from kickoff for Utah football. But we got
Speaker 1: a lot to do on ZIP program today. Our first
Speaker 1: guest Richard Smith, who was alongside for Round one coverage
Speaker 1: of the NBA Draft last night, and we'll be back
Speaker 1: tonight to take us through Round two of the NBA Draft.
Speaker 1: We will take you up until the Jazz Draft and
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get lucky in the Jazz will trade the pick.
Speaker 1: Before we launch into the coverage, Smidi, you'll stop by.
Speaker 1: Pablo Master, Ronnie Head, coach of Ursel, will join us.
Speaker 1: Neil Smith, former general manager of the New York Rangers.
Speaker 1: We'll break down the Utah Mammoth trade adding a new winger,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk some offseason NHL we'll do some sports
Speaker 1: court on a Thursday, as we do all the time
Speaker 1: with our friends from Handy and Handy. We'll launch you
Speaker 1: into the five o'clock hour of the program, and then
Speaker 1: after we say good night, it's time for Round two
Speaker 1: of the NBA Draft with myself and Richard Smith right
Speaker 1: here AUDIESPN seven hundred, Richard Smith, Pablo mash Ruddy, Neil
Speaker 1: Smith's sports Court with our friends Handy and Handy. Me
Speaker 1: Spence check. It's all of you, the great listeners, and
Speaker 1: that guy Porter Larson, who is high. Not just high
Speaker 1: right now? You're high on Ace Bailey.
Speaker 2: Or I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not judging.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know.
Speaker 1: I'm just snuck in something before the show. Just days
Speaker 1: Bailey just stays bag you like a little Ace Bailey,
Speaker 1: don't you.
Speaker 4: I think he's really talented.
Speaker 1: Here's the deal, Spence.
Speaker 4: I think the Jazz may have got the second or
Speaker 4: third most talented player in the draft. I don't necessarily
Speaker 4: think that he's going to be the second or third
Speaker 4: best player. I think Cooper Flagg has a really good
Speaker 4: cushion in that regard. I am really high on the
Speaker 4: number two pick. But listen, if you have a guy
Speaker 4: with that high of a ceiling at number five and
Speaker 4: you have the assets to move up later in the
Speaker 4: first round, it just made sense to take the best
Speaker 4: player available. And then if you are really high on
Speaker 4: a oh, I don't know, Walter Clayton Junior, you package
Speaker 4: a few things together, you move up a few picks,
Speaker 4: and you take that guy. And that is what the
Speaker 4: Jazz did. That is what they executed last night, and
Speaker 4: it feels like that was kind of what they planned
Speaker 4: on doing last night, and kudos to them for doing so.
Speaker 4: We'll see if it pays dividends. Obviously, one more pick
Speaker 4: this evening.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we'll see pick fifty three. Most people who
Speaker 1: cover the draft believe it was top heavy and the
Speaker 1: death really isn't there. So the second round tonight, we'll
Speaker 1: see what it brings for the Jazz. Of course, if
Speaker 1: anything drops between now and tonight, we will bring it
Speaker 1: to you here on the program. Okay, our first guest
Speaker 1: will be Smitty live in studio. We're gonna break down
Speaker 1: what the Jazz did. We're gonna break down some NBA
Speaker 1: big picture conversation. We'll try to look at the Jazz rotation,
Speaker 1: figure out who's gonna start, figure out who's gonna play
Speaker 1: some minutes with Smitty? But before Smitty rolls in a
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Speaker 1: Austin Ainge, his first real big situation as the primary
Speaker 1: decision maker for the Utah Jazz took place last night.
Speaker 1: And if you read some of the draft recaps, if
Speaker 1: you listen to some of the post draft podcast, most
Speaker 1: everybody is applauding what the Utah Jazz did last night.
Speaker 1: So let's dig into it. We've got some other big
Speaker 1: picture NBA storylines to talk about, as Joe Dumar is
Speaker 1: rapidly becoming the executive in the NBA that other executives
Speaker 1: just want to call and float weird trade idea is too,
Speaker 1: like they used to do with Isaiah Thomas when he
Speaker 1: was running the New York Knicks. We'll get the Pelicans
Speaker 1: just took an unbelievably calculated risk that could blow up
Speaker 1: right in their face. A lot of winners last night,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, a lot of losers last night, in
Speaker 1: my opinion. The local storyline was Yegor Demon being drafted
Speaker 1: by the Brooklyn Nets at eight. That was a little
Speaker 1: high on the range and most people were expecting and
Speaker 1: apparently Yegor is going to compete with like four other
Speaker 1: international point guard slash wings that Brooklyn selected throughout the
Speaker 1: course to night. They had five first round picks. Nobody
Speaker 1: thought they were going to take all of them, and
Speaker 1: they did, and four of them are like the very
Speaker 1: same players. So we'll see what Demon's able to do
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. But from a Utah Jazz standpoint, I thought
Speaker 1: Austin Inge last night showed boldness that this organization clearly
Speaker 1: needs and quite frankly probably has not had for quite
Speaker 1: some time. I'm not knocking on anyone very much like
Speaker 1: and respect Justin Zanak and Danny Inge, but Austin Ainge
Speaker 1: stepped up addressed the media after the draft was completed.
Speaker 1: Round one answered questions, and I thought outlined his case
Speaker 1: very well, so Ace Bailey. About five or six months ago,
Speaker 1: Ace Bailey was thought to be potentially the second best
Speaker 1: player in this draft, and honestly, if you go back
Speaker 1: prior to the way, Cooper Flag just really flew this year.
Speaker 1: I mean Cooper Flag coming up as a high school
Speaker 1: and then AAU player man Verde Academy after he transferred
Speaker 1: from his high school in Maine, was thought to be
Speaker 1: potentially generationally special, but nobody really knew because Ace Bailey
Speaker 1: was kind of in that range as well as he
Speaker 1: made his way through the high school ANDAAU ranks. At
Speaker 1: one point he was thought to be, you know, six ten,
Speaker 1: six ten and a half as a player that could
Speaker 1: really do a bunch of different things with measurables that
Speaker 1: are very intoxicating. The buzz around him started to go
Speaker 1: the wrong direction after the combine when he measured six'
Speaker 1: eight without, shoes WHICH i still think is the dumbest.
Speaker 1: Thing you play basketball wearing. Shoes why are we measuring
Speaker 1: you without? Shoes makes no? Sense and then of course
Speaker 1: the noise Around ace started to hone in on the
Speaker 1: fact that he is refusing to work out for teams
Speaker 1: and he straight up canceled the workout for The Philadelphia
Speaker 1: seventy six years, Now i've been a part of individual
Speaker 1: workouts in pro. Basketball i've witnessed hundreds of them between
Speaker 1: tape that you have certainly these days with these young
Speaker 1: men when you start scouting them when they're at twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen years. Old austin and And Danny, Ainge Justin, zanik
Speaker 1: all the talent evaluators for The Utah jazz have been
Speaker 1: watching As bailey play basketball for six years on a
Speaker 1: myriad of different, levels and they went to the. Combine
Speaker 1: austin actually Interviewed ace when he was with The, celtics
Speaker 1: and The jazz sat down with Ast bailey as. Well
Speaker 1: and at the, combine you get exactly what you. Need
Speaker 1: you have all the. MEDICALS i don't know that the
Speaker 1: individual workouts are really all that. Paramount i'm sure people
Speaker 1: to run teams would probably disagree with, me but you
Speaker 1: have the data that you. NEED i never viewed the
Speaker 1: fact that he didn't work out for teams as a
Speaker 1: big red. FLAG i did view the fact that he
Speaker 1: straight up canceled and no showed is maybe a sign
Speaker 1: that the maturity situation maybe isn't, great and that's kind
Speaker 1: of the knock On, ace thought to be one of
Speaker 1: the more immature players in this. DRAFT i do want
Speaker 1: to point out That Omar, cooper who Is Ace bailey's,
Speaker 1: agent is brand new at This ace is own is
Speaker 1: his only, client and the decision making around the pre
Speaker 1: draft stuff With ace clearly came from his. Representation So
Speaker 1: omar is With Lifestyle Sports, agency it is brand, new
Speaker 1: And ace is his only, client so he's never done this,
Speaker 1: before so that's why it's been a little bit. Clunky
Speaker 1: but here's the bottom. Line, okay The jazz simply took
Speaker 1: the best possible player they could have taken it. Five,
Speaker 1: now that sounds reductive and, simple But i'm not sure
Speaker 1: that That charlotte. DID i think As bailey is tremendously,
Speaker 1: talented so much more so Than Kan, kinnipple WHO i
Speaker 1: think will be a SOLID nba. Player but if these
Speaker 1: two players their, potential And i'll even THROW vj in,
Speaker 1: THAT i LOVE VJ J edgecombeh who went To affiliate.
Speaker 1: Three If Ace, bailey Konk, nipple and Vg edgecombe all
Speaker 1: reached their, Ceilings ace is the best. Player ace has
Speaker 1: the most talent of those. Three, now The jazz could
Speaker 1: have definitely Taken Trey, johnson Who Sam bessini this morning
Speaker 1: said he actually thought should be the pick at five
Speaker 1: instead of. Base but What Austin ainge, did and this
Speaker 1: is what you have to. Do you cannot make these
Speaker 1: decisions if you're a roster constructor in pro. Basketball you
Speaker 1: cannot act out of. Fear you can't act out of.
Speaker 1: Emotion AND i think we fall into that around here
Speaker 1: a little bit too much because we have a LITTLE
Speaker 1: ptsd with a lot of the best players we've ever.
Speaker 1: Had simply just leaving The hayward thing will always be.
Speaker 1: Odd of, course With mitchell and D will those were,
Speaker 1: trades but those were trades that a lot of people
Speaker 1: believe were essentially forced behind the scenes by the player.
Speaker 1: Himself Go bear was, traded you. Know so we have
Speaker 1: a lot of players we could go back to booze
Speaker 1: that entire. Group ever Since john And carr, retired we've
Speaker 1: had had very smart roster, constructors built some good, teams
Speaker 1: but they've been broken down far before the meat was
Speaker 1: off that. BONE i, MEAN i still believe The donovan
Speaker 1: And rudy And quinn group had plenty left Now obviously
Speaker 1: it didn't go, down BUT i do have to wonder
Speaker 1: based off of how Bold austin was last, night, like
Speaker 1: we don't Care ace if you don't want to be,
Speaker 1: here because the fact of the matter is if you
Speaker 1: guys have been following the fallout and the. COVERAGE i
Speaker 1: listened to five post draft pods this morning in some
Speaker 1: ERRANDS i was doing around, town AND i read a
Speaker 1: bunch last night AFTER i got. Home the one narrative
Speaker 1: that everybody is leaned into is what are they? Doing
Speaker 1: ace doesn't want to be in Saul. Lake, well here's the, deal.
Speaker 3: We get.
Speaker 1: It a lot of THESE nba players will never choose
Speaker 1: to come. Here but what are you supposed to, do
Speaker 1: like not draft, anybody or just draft the safest white
Speaker 1: dude that feels like he'd fit in here breaking News
Speaker 1: Gordon hayward was. White when he wasn't playing, basketball he
Speaker 1: liked to play video games and they couldn't keep that. Dude,
Speaker 1: Okay so you can't just act out of. Fear the
Speaker 1: Boldness austin showed last, NIGHT i think it's a really good.
Speaker 1: Sign he, said we don't care if you don't want
Speaker 1: to be. Here we are drafting. You and now we
Speaker 1: have a seven year runway to show you that we
Speaker 1: have a, great dynamite head, coach we have a good
Speaker 1: program that will help you. Develop we have ownership that
Speaker 1: will pay, money in a front office that knows what they're.
Speaker 1: Doing now at the end of seven, years these players
Speaker 1: earn the, right as they, should to choose to live
Speaker 1: wherever they want to. Live i've always found in odd
Speaker 1: dynamic and professional sports that these players are legitimately the
Speaker 1: best at what they do in the, world and we
Speaker 1: tell them where they. Live it is kind of odd
Speaker 1: if you think about. It so you should have the
Speaker 1: ability to choose where you do what you do when
Speaker 1: you're as good at it as these players. Are but
Speaker 1: for a roster construction, project for a team that's In
Speaker 1: Salt Lake, city you just have to be. Bold AND
Speaker 1: i Thought austin was last. Night we'll get to The
Speaker 1: Walter Clayton junior thing in just a.
Speaker 5: Minute he's the pride Of, Norwich connecticut and good son
Speaker 5: Of Salt Lake. City after forty years with The Utah,
Speaker 5: jazz there's no one better to talk some. Hoops Richard
Speaker 5: Smitty smith is back on The drive ON espn seven
Speaker 5: Hundred Richard Smitty.
Speaker 1: Smith thank goodness that you know how to actually do
Speaker 1: real work instead of pretending like this is actual swinging
Speaker 1: the pick in the salt. Mine how are you feeling?
Speaker 3: Today?
Speaker 6: Oh you just you, know you just said. That it
Speaker 6: just made me think of what About? Bob you know
Speaker 6: you remember what About?
Speaker 2: Bob?
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, maybe, yeah you remember the scene When Richard
Speaker 6: dreyfus is going you think he's, Gone he's never gone
Speaker 6: and he opens the door And, maurice.
Speaker 1: That is such a good. Movie i'm glad you brought that.
Speaker 1: UP i have a flight. TONIGHT i might Watch What
Speaker 1: About bob on my flight. Tonight NOW i just want
Speaker 1: to talk about the Best Bill murray movies of all.
Speaker 1: Time but we will now do. That how you feeling?
Speaker 1: Today feeling?
Speaker 3: Good, yeah we're doing.
Speaker 6: Good Spens, hey this is this this time of year
Speaker 6: before whatever it, IS i guess my, body my, brain
Speaker 6: whatever is is? It a certain flow and the certain
Speaker 6: certain Mindset because for years and years and years we
Speaker 6: would this is the week that we would be in
Speaker 6: the office at seven am and leave at midnight every.
Speaker 3: Day and AND.
Speaker 6: I THINK i mentioned and a couple of weeks, AGO
Speaker 6: i was sitting at, home uh recently and reading in
Speaker 6: the early, evenings and, man it's bright. Out the sun's.
Speaker 6: Out and THEN i, realized oh, yeah it's late, spring early,
Speaker 6: summer AND i usually never saw the sun because we're
Speaker 6: always hiding in the theater at The jazz practice, facility
Speaker 6: watching film twelve hours a.
Speaker 3: Day, yeah you, know leading up to the.
Speaker 6: Draft so but this is this this time of, year
Speaker 6: you just kind of get energized for all the stuff
Speaker 6: that's going on and all the decisions that are, made
Speaker 6: some of them that are, calculated and some of.
Speaker 3: Them are on the. Fly and that's what makes an exciting.
Speaker 1: Time so we'll start with the jazz and then we'll pan.
Speaker 1: Back although now in my, Mind i'm All i'm thinking
Speaker 1: about is the dinner scene From What About bob When
Speaker 1: Bill murray asked for assault. SUBSTITUTE i, see saw is
Speaker 1: there assault? Substitute and he just won't stop making. Noise
Speaker 1: how good the chicken? Is oh so, good, man so.
Speaker 1: Good but we will move. On i'm just a Big
Speaker 1: Bill murray, guy all. Right, So, smitty one of the
Speaker 1: THINGS i like about having you in studio is you
Speaker 1: have this front office perspective and you can help us
Speaker 1: understand whether or not it means anything that everybody seems
Speaker 1: to be applauding what The jazz did last. Night, Now
Speaker 1: Ace bailey is eighteen years, old and so he has
Speaker 1: a marathon between now and whatever it looks like when
Speaker 1: he is fully. Big but let's start With ace and
Speaker 1: then we'll get To Walter Clayton, junior and then we'll
Speaker 1: do maybe what's next for The. Jazz we talked about
Speaker 1: it last, night but for our listeners who may have missed,
Speaker 1: it you, know at one point during this calendar year
Speaker 1: AND i looked this up prior to the, Draft ace
Speaker 1: was thought to be maybe the second best player on the.
Speaker 1: Board now his Teammate Dylan harper separated. Himself So cooper goes,
Speaker 1: One dylan goes, two THEN vj at three To, philly
Speaker 1: and Then conkinippilford To, charlotte And Ace bailey is there
Speaker 1: at five for The jazz to. Select and all of the,
Speaker 1: Reports smitty are at literally all of. Them if you
Speaker 1: go and read anything from The athletic OR, espn if
Speaker 1: you go listen to any of these post draft, pods
Speaker 1: they're all saying the same, thing what are they? Doing
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be. There But Austin ains, SAID
Speaker 1: i don't give a. Rip we think he's the best
Speaker 1: player at. Five we're taking him at.
Speaker 3: Five what do you?
Speaker 6: Think, yeah, well what Happens spencer's all that stuff is
Speaker 6: just stuff of the moment that that ends up getting
Speaker 6: swept away and and you, know like like the waves
Speaker 6: on the, beach it just goes away and and and
Speaker 6: then you move on and the kid will come out,
Speaker 6: Here he'll get, acclimated they'll love him, Up they'll they'll
Speaker 6: make sure that he's comfortable and and that he's, feeling you,
Speaker 6: know wanted and secure and all, that which you. Should you,
Speaker 6: know that's that's the kind of stuff you want to
Speaker 6: do when you have an eighteen or nineteen year old
Speaker 6: who is you, know reacclimating to a new part next
Speaker 6: part of their life and a new part of the
Speaker 6: country that they're not familiar. With he's a he's a young,
Speaker 6: kid he's a he's an exciting type. Player what's going
Speaker 6: to be interesting is uh is how he how he
Speaker 6: comes into the fold of what they're trying to do
Speaker 6: and what his his mindset.
Speaker 3: Is you.
Speaker 6: Know one of the THINGS i like about him is
Speaker 6: that he really has a versatile, game and he can
Speaker 6: really do a lot of different. Things he's a switchable guy,
Speaker 6: defensively you, know he can create shots on the. Offense
Speaker 6: he's the kind of player The jazz need on their roster.
Speaker 3: Meeting you, know.
Speaker 6: His, length his, agility as his, athleticism all those things
Speaker 6: fit right into the box that they need to. Fill
Speaker 6: the one Thing i've heard about him is that he's
Speaker 6: he's a pretty good team, guy and he's he's pretty
Speaker 6: good with his with his teammates and the coaches that
Speaker 6: were At, rutgers which is which is a positive because
Speaker 6: the Stuff i've, seen you, know outside of, that in
Speaker 6: interviews and, whatnot in the way just the way he carried,
Speaker 6: himself like last, night you, know during the draft and.
Speaker 6: Stuff to, ME i got a different vibe off that
Speaker 6: it kind of felt like he, was you, know feeling
Speaker 6: a little bit of his. Oats maybe he thought he
Speaker 6: was bigger than the, program you, know just his overall
Speaker 6: mindset and one of the QUESTIONS i would have going into.
Speaker 6: It of, Course i'm sure The jazz looked into all
Speaker 6: these things and you, know dotted the i's and crossed
Speaker 6: the t's on all this kind of. Stuff but you,
Speaker 6: KNOW i hope he's he's a team oriented guy and
Speaker 6: he wants to do what he can do to help
Speaker 6: the group to. Succeed if he comes in and he's
Speaker 6: trying to, be you, know a major guy right off
Speaker 6: the bat and wants to be all rookie and wants
Speaker 6: to be you, know make The All star team and
Speaker 6: all these things or, whatever he's more worried about his
Speaker 6: own game and what he produces on the floor for,
Speaker 6: himself then that would be a concern THAT i would
Speaker 6: have in terms of having him as part of what
Speaker 6: the group is trying to. Accomplish But i'm sure The
Speaker 6: jazz front office, group you, know looked at all those
Speaker 6: things and they researched, them and you, know feel comfortable
Speaker 6: that he was the guy that they they wanted to
Speaker 6: incorporate into into what they're trying to.
Speaker 1: Build so one of the many roles you've filled over,
Speaker 1: there and you've told so many stories about going to
Speaker 1: pick Up, rudy going to pick Up, heyward going to
Speaker 1: pick Up donovan from the, airport and then try so
Speaker 1: let's talk logistics for our listeners that would like to
Speaker 1: peek behind the. Curtain what what comes? Next phrase you,
Speaker 1: know does he fly in The Salt? Lake who goes
Speaker 1: and gets? Him or what does that look? Like are
Speaker 1: they looking at? Apartments do they take him to THE
Speaker 1: zbbc and, say, so what what's next in the.
Speaker 6: Process May, yeah they'll try and they'll try and get
Speaker 6: him in, town whether it's today or, tomorrow they'll, uh
Speaker 6: they'll have a little sometimes in the, PAST i don't
Speaker 6: know if they still do it or. Not we used
Speaker 6: to have a, little, uh a little meet and greet
Speaker 6: thing over at The Grand america for season ticket. Holders oh,
Speaker 6: cool so they could come over and say hi and
Speaker 6: meet the new player that we had drafted and that
Speaker 6: kind of thing and have them say a few words
Speaker 6: to the. GROUP i remember one. YEAR i probably shouldn't.
Speaker 1: No story time we're. There he took us.
Speaker 5: Down.
Speaker 6: Man REMEMBER i remember one, time you, know the year
Speaker 6: we Drafted Coasta koufas From Ohio. State it was a similar.
Speaker 6: Scenario They coasta did not come in to work. Out
Speaker 6: we did not interview. Him we thought he was going
Speaker 6: to go before us in the. Draft he only played
Speaker 6: one year At Ohio state and, uh and he fell
Speaker 6: to us and we we were kind of we had
Speaker 6: him on our, board but we. Didn't we really didn't
Speaker 6: expect him to be, there so we hadn't kind of
Speaker 6: were in that that. Mindset, anyway we end up taking
Speaker 6: him because he he we think he's the best. Player
Speaker 6: at the time he comes, in we do this this
Speaker 6: little meet and greet. Thing we have him on, stage
Speaker 6: we have a few questions and and you, know he's of.
Speaker 3: Of A greek.
Speaker 6: Heritage you, know his mother is a uh was a
Speaker 6: middle school principal in uh in The, Dayton ohio, area
Speaker 6: and that's where he grew. Up But coasta is Very
Speaker 6: greek looking like he looks like he just came over
Speaker 6: From athens or. Something, Right and we had a season
Speaker 6: ticket holding older gentleman you, know might have been in
Speaker 6: his eighties or. Something he was excited to come and
Speaker 6: be part of this. Thing and and you, know we,
Speaker 6: said are there any? Questions and question over, here question over.
Speaker 6: There then this gentleman raises his hand and and, say, yes,
Speaker 6: sir you have a question for a. Coaster he, goes,
Speaker 6: yes how did you learn to speak such Good? English
Speaker 6: and he goes such Good? English he, goes, yes you,
Speaker 6: Know i'm very fascinated with Your greek heritage and that
Speaker 6: you that you speak such Clear. English and he he
Speaker 6: was kind of, dumbfounded you, know, obviously and the, gentleman
Speaker 6: of course didn't know of his, background you, know grew
Speaker 6: up In, ohio you, know and, uh and So coaster
Speaker 6: kind of did as much as he could to smooth
Speaker 6: it over to, say, well you, KNOW i went to
Speaker 6: good schools and my mom is an educator and in
Speaker 6: the middle school In, ohio and, UH i went to
Speaker 6: a very good high school and and uh Eure Ohio
Speaker 6: state and so, uh you, KNOW i think IT'S i
Speaker 6: think that's part of my overall, uh you, know he
Speaker 6: and he's trying to think of away how DO i.
Speaker 1: Say, This, yeah, yeah That i'm.
Speaker 6: As much of An american as you, are like and
Speaker 6: uh and so that was, funny you. Know but you,
Speaker 6: know but we've had a lot of a lot of
Speaker 6: interactions like that over the years WHERE uh players come
Speaker 6: in and they try and meet the uh uh the
Speaker 6: season ticket holder base or maybe THE vip group or
Speaker 6: something like. THAT i don't know what The jazz have
Speaker 6: planned in that, regard you, know with these new, guys
Speaker 6: or if they're doing anything uh in that, way but
Speaker 6: but they'll certainly get them quickly acclimated the next three
Speaker 6: four five days because they'll have him in here by
Speaker 6: the middle of next week and getting getting their their
Speaker 6: group ready for a summer, league because The jazz do
Speaker 6: their summer league here that this year is gonna be
Speaker 6: up in The Huntsman center because of the renovations at
Speaker 6: The Delta. Center so The Jazz Summer league is gonna
Speaker 6: be at The Huntsman center the week of right After july.
Speaker 1: Fourth next, week is.
Speaker 6: It, so so they're doing it, then and then right
Speaker 6: from there they always go right down To vegas and
Speaker 6: do The Vegas Summer.
Speaker 3: League so those.
Speaker 6: Guys will be getting in, uh five, six seven games
Speaker 6: within like a ten day, span you. Know so and
Speaker 6: and there's always there's always variants and and how much
Speaker 6: guys play in the games or how and when they
Speaker 6: decide they're gonna hold them, out or they're gonna play
Speaker 6: them On tuesday and not On, wednesday or they're only
Speaker 6: gonna play them ten minutes today and twenty minutes, tomorrow
Speaker 6: and and all that. Stuff it, gets you, know a
Speaker 6: little a little goofy in my, opinion because they just
Speaker 6: try to over overwork it and overthink the. Process but
Speaker 6: but they'll those guys will be in here very quickly
Speaker 6: in the next several, days and they'll be getting act
Speaker 6: made it to the, group And Bart taylor and his
Speaker 6: group and the person outside will be finalizing the people
Speaker 6: that they want to bring in for The Summer league.
Speaker 6: Team they'll have some of the guys from the team
Speaker 6: last year that will play in The Summer. League and
Speaker 6: then depending on how the draft goes, tonight if they
Speaker 6: do anything else, different they'll be on the phones as
Speaker 6: soon as the draft ends, tonight they'll they'll be on
Speaker 6: the phones with agents of guys who didn't get drafted to, say,
Speaker 6: hey we like your guy and we really thought about
Speaker 6: taking him at fifty, three which you gizz have. Tonight
Speaker 6: we didn't get take him at fifty, three but we
Speaker 6: really like him enough to want to bring him Into
Speaker 6: Summer league and take a close up look at. Him
Speaker 6: can we get him in? Here and then that's a
Speaker 6: negotiation thing with the agents and so the agents as,
Speaker 6: WELL i got The lakers want them And phoenix wants,
Speaker 6: them and so let me see you know. Whatever and
Speaker 6: So Bart taylor and his group are on the phone
Speaker 6: with agents just going down their. Lists boom, boom, boom
Speaker 6: the players they want to try and get in for
Speaker 6: the summer league, program and sometimes they get a guy For,
Speaker 6: vegas but they don't get a guy For Salt lake
Speaker 6: or vice. Versa they, say, hey why don't you give
Speaker 6: him give him to us for The Salt lake games
Speaker 6: and then have him go play for The lakers in
Speaker 6: The vegas, games, Okay and and the agent will, go, yeah,
Speaker 6: okay we can do, that you. Know so there's a
Speaker 6: lot of you, know jockeying around and stuff and and
Speaker 6: and because it's really not obviously about the the games
Speaker 6: themselves in the two summer, leagues it's about getting a
Speaker 6: chance to see those players on the floor against like,
Speaker 6: competition to be able to see how they do and
Speaker 6: how they fare against, that and then you make those
Speaker 6: kind of judgments and then you go from there in
Speaker 6: terms of possibly inviting non drafted guys into your your
Speaker 6: camp in the fall or even into uh other workouts
Speaker 6: later in the summer open gym type, things uh where
Speaker 6: we can get more more bites at the, apples so to,
Speaker 6: speak about trying to fill in some holes on your.
Speaker 1: Roster so before we move over To Walter Clayton, junior
Speaker 1: the second selection of the jet made and they gave.
Speaker 1: Up what they gave up was not. Nothing we'll get
Speaker 1: to that in the. Moment so the dynamic of the
Speaker 1: reports That ace and his reps were trying to make
Speaker 1: sure he landed somewhere back. East the two teams Were
Speaker 1: washington And brooklyn that are reported as where he wanted to,
Speaker 1: land and Just austin SAYING i don't. Care you, know
Speaker 1: we're drafting you because we think you're the best. Player
Speaker 1: so they've got seven, years, RIGHT Seti they've got seven
Speaker 1: years where they can, say, okay, look we know that
Speaker 1: this wasn't your preferred, destination but we think you were
Speaker 1: the best player. Available we think you fit in. Here
Speaker 1: you're going to get to know our head, coach who
Speaker 1: we like a. Lot you're gonna get to know our developmental,
Speaker 1: program you're going to get to know the. Community you're
Speaker 1: going to going to get to know the. Organization what
Speaker 1: is that mindset, where, okay we have seven years to
Speaker 1: sell you on. Us you, know if the reports are
Speaker 1: true that this kid does not want to be, here
Speaker 1: And austin just bucked that and said we're doing it.
Speaker 1: Anyway what's the?
Speaker 6: Mindset, well, well that's a very good, Question, spez because,
Speaker 6: UH i don't know what the the the regime. Now
Speaker 6: uh you know The Ryan smith and and his ownership,
Speaker 6: group and then uh the angels that are in the
Speaker 6: front office, now and and UH i Know. DANNY i
Speaker 6: don't Know danny very, well BUT i know how he
Speaker 6: operates a little. Bit and it's it's kind of somewhat
Speaker 6: similar To, UH i think How Jerry sloan would operate
Speaker 6: all those years and that and that, Is, hey we drafted,
Speaker 6: you you know we we are not going to kiss
Speaker 6: your you, know you know. What you, know this is a.
Speaker 6: Job this is a. Profession so you, know you come
Speaker 6: in and let's. Go we're going to. WORK i don't.
Speaker 6: CARE i don't. Care you don't want to be you
Speaker 6: know you want to be. Here you don't want to be.
Speaker 6: Here it doesn't matter you want to play in THE.
Speaker 6: Nba it's it's it's the same as if you're in
Speaker 6: some other. Corporation, spence you go To HARVARD nba school
Speaker 6: and you come out and you you accept a job with,
Speaker 6: uh you, know an abayning. Company you know your dad
Speaker 6: was with them a long time, ago you, know but
Speaker 6: that's a big. Firm he could be working In, boston
Speaker 6: or they could, say, hey we want you to work
Speaker 6: in The chicago office now for the next two, years
Speaker 6: or we want you to work in THE la. Office
Speaker 6: whatever it. Is so THE nba is a big. Corporation
Speaker 6: and when you come into this this, company and you
Speaker 6: want to work for this, company then you work where
Speaker 6: the company asks you to go to. Work, okay it's
Speaker 6: it's a simple. Process you, know you don't want to do.
Speaker 6: That you can go play In, europe you can go
Speaker 6: play In. Australia we you, know we have no holds on,
Speaker 6: you you, know but if you want to play in THE,
Speaker 6: nba we're assigning you to The Salt lake. Office is the? Process,
Speaker 6: Yeah and so you, know it's it's as simple as,
Speaker 6: that you. Know again With Jerry, sloan With kevin, O'Connor
Speaker 6: With Dennis. Lindsay you, know these are all guys, who you,
Speaker 6: know are straight up guys who would just, say, hey
Speaker 6: we're all here to get the job done the best we.
Speaker 6: Can you, know we don't have time for this kind
Speaker 6: of you know. Nonsense whether a guy the feelings are
Speaker 6: hurt today or you, know or you, know whatever it.
Speaker 6: Is so that's one thing THAT i would caution against
Speaker 6: the you, know whatever is the sentiment at the. Moment
Speaker 6: and of course this is not even twenty four hours
Speaker 6: after the draft has taken, place and and some of
Speaker 6: this may be misread as.
Speaker 3: WELL i don't.
Speaker 6: Know these are all things we hear third and fourth,
Speaker 6: Hand SO i don't know how to how to put
Speaker 6: any weight on any of this kind of. STUFF i
Speaker 6: would just take it one day at a time to
Speaker 6: see how the kid is when he comes in and.
Speaker 6: Whatnot you, know but if you, know if he's coming
Speaker 6: in with the right attitude and the right, approach this is.
Speaker 6: Great let's go to. Work you, know we can get
Speaker 6: a lot of stuff. Done and if there's a problem
Speaker 6: in that, regard then my my. Impression and again don't
Speaker 6: know him very, well but you, Know Will hardy And
Speaker 6: Danny AINGE i know really well in that. Regard you,
Speaker 6: know the kind of guys that sit a guy down and, go,
Speaker 6: hey this is what the deal. Is, okay let's. Go you,
Speaker 6: know we don't have time for this that kind of.
Speaker 6: Thing it's a. Job and in THE, nba the way
Speaker 6: THE cba, is if you draft a guy and you
Speaker 6: like him and he's your, guy you really think he
Speaker 6: can do something and you can develop him into. Something
Speaker 6: The jazz in this case would have control over the
Speaker 6: player for a minimum of seven years based on his
Speaker 6: four year rookie deal and then the restricted free agent
Speaker 6: process after. That if you're having problems with the player
Speaker 6: along the, way he's not working out the way you,
Speaker 6: want you, know he's too much. Work you, know it's you, know,
Speaker 6: yeah he's got, talent but his attitude is way over
Speaker 6: here and we can't seem to get it in, line
Speaker 6: and you, know it's too much heavy. Lifting then there
Speaker 6: are things you can do in terms, obviously in terms
Speaker 6: of trades or even you, know letting guys go if
Speaker 6: if you just want to cut your losses and move,
Speaker 6: on you, KNOW i, mean so there's all those things at.
Speaker 6: Play i'm sure That austin ain't and making this, decision
Speaker 6: made the decision based on the player he thought had
Speaker 6: the best, talent could could add the most to The jazz.
Speaker 6: Group and Also i'm sure that he had he had
Speaker 6: looked into all the things in his background about what
Speaker 6: kind of guy he, is how he was At, rutgers
Speaker 6: how the coaches liked, him you, know what the what
Speaker 6: the trainers thought of behind the, scenes working with him every,
Speaker 6: day all those kinds of, things AND i don't think he,
Speaker 6: would you, know throw a lot of a lot of
Speaker 6: his or early, weight if you, will and get, it
Speaker 6: being new on the job to selecting a guy who he, thought,
Speaker 6: really you, know was was going to be wishy washy
Speaker 6: in terms of is this going to work out in
Speaker 6: THAT i really think that he would have made the
Speaker 6: decision unless he's pretty confident, that you know, this we
Speaker 6: can make this.
Speaker 1: Work since you brought Up, rutgers let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question. Here, so, so the The Big ten was
Speaker 1: a good not great basketball conference last. Year you, know
Speaker 1: THE sec was probably the, class then it was The Big,
Speaker 1: twelve then we get into THE acc. Whatever Michigan, State, Maryland, Michigan,
Speaker 1: Wisconsin purdue all top fifteen, teams But rutgers was eight
Speaker 1: and twelve in conference, play they were fifteen and seventeen.
Speaker 1: Overall they lost To Kennesaw state with two of the
Speaker 1: top really three prospects at the time and ended up
Speaker 1: two of the top FIVE nba prospects on their roster
Speaker 1: at a. Time how do you explain that and is
Speaker 1: that anything that's concerning as you go through your.
Speaker 6: Process it definitely is because you've got two guys who
Speaker 6: were projected when they came Into rutgers of being two
Speaker 6: of the top five. Picks as it turned out they
Speaker 6: were in the NEXT nba. Draft and you would think
Speaker 6: that that, team with the very good coach that they
Speaker 6: have there is going to be able to do very
Speaker 6: well in The Big. Ten and they didn't have a
Speaker 6: winning record and their performances were. Uneven Both harper And
Speaker 6: bay you, know played well enough that you, know obviously
Speaker 6: the your teams still regarded them very highly in terms
Speaker 6: of potential pro. Prospects but they but they they weren't
Speaker 6: consistent all year. Long, uh they didn't they didn't play
Speaker 6: in some of the games that you, think, uh you,
Speaker 6: know they they should have a you, know not easy,
Speaker 6: time but should win this game against an inferior. Opponent
Speaker 6: and they had sometimes lackluster, performances maybe because their head
Speaker 6: wasn't in it that, night or they they thought this
Speaker 6: is gonna be a neat you know. Whatever but that
Speaker 6: plays into you, know what kind of mentality they. Have
Speaker 6: what what do they bring to the court every?
Speaker 1: Night?
Speaker 3: Uh did they come to just?
Speaker 6: Play you, know at the times when they want to,
Speaker 6: play and when they, don't you, know they just kind
Speaker 6: of shrug it. Off, yeah it doesn't. Matter i'm out
Speaker 6: of here after the year. Anyway you, know those are
Speaker 6: things you don't really, know, uh but guys behind the
Speaker 6: scenes would have a feel for. That so that's why
Speaker 6: when you're doing all your your homeworking, background you're not
Speaker 6: just talking to the coaches because a lot of times
Speaker 6: the coaches are gonna sell you a pill of of
Speaker 6: goods unless you have a personal relationship with with. Them
Speaker 6: if it's just a professional one where they know who you,
Speaker 6: are but you don't really know each other on a personal,
Speaker 6: level they're gonna try and sell you on a kid
Speaker 6: because they're trying to improve their.
Speaker 3: Program. Right so the guy From rutgers.
Speaker 6: Today is calling, prospects you know that he's, recruiting, saying,
Speaker 6: hey you, see you come To rutgers and you can
Speaker 6: be one of the you, know one of the top
Speaker 6: five picks in the.
Speaker 3: Draft you know that kind of.
Speaker 6: Thing you who you try and talk, to or the
Speaker 6: people behind the, scenes the athletic, trainers maybe the student
Speaker 6: managers who work there who are the same age as
Speaker 6: the players who might be in the class with the
Speaker 6: players who can tell, you, hey this is how this
Speaker 6: guy is when he's not in the, limelight when the
Speaker 6: when the spotlight isn't on. Him you try and talk
Speaker 6: to opposing coaches who more than likely had recruited those
Speaker 6: kids who now playing against, them but also have a
Speaker 6: different perspective on who they, are not just as, players
Speaker 6: but also as people because they may have, been you,
Speaker 6: know spending a few years trying to recruit them as.
Speaker 6: Well so you try and get a hold of those
Speaker 6: people to, see, hey what's the real deal with this?
Speaker 3: Kid you, know and stuff and and.
Speaker 6: A lot of times you get a lot more on
Speaker 6: the on the spot answers when you can get to
Speaker 6: people like, that you, know WE i, know sometimes we
Speaker 6: went so far as to having some of our staff
Speaker 6: spend two or three days on a college, campus, uh you,
Speaker 6: know investigating looking at certain players and and going around
Speaker 6: to everybody they could figure, out you, know who that
Speaker 6: player would have interacted with on a regular. Basis was
Speaker 6: was it the resident advisor who lived on their dorm
Speaker 6: floor with, Them was it was it the the the
Speaker 6: residence hall manager or the director who ran the, place
Speaker 6: whether it was you, know people who were in the
Speaker 6: the advising. Department, uh someone who, was you, know one
Speaker 6: of their, teachers any anybody like that that they could
Speaker 6: give you a feel for who they were away from the.
Speaker 6: Limelight and those things really, carry at least with the
Speaker 6: they used to carry a lot of weight because that
Speaker 6: told you what the person was really like when they
Speaker 6: were out of the limelight of playing.
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Speaker 1: Days bailey not the only player selected by The jazz last.
Speaker 1: Night they moved up to Take Walter Clayton, junior who
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Speaker 1: meantime all, Right Top Day, bailey last, segment the newest
Speaker 1: member of The Utah, jazz number five pick overall out Of.
Speaker 1: Rutgers let's move over to what they elected to do
Speaker 1: to move up three. Spots they exchanged twenty one for,
Speaker 1: eighteen and in addition they sent forty three tonight and
Speaker 1: then two other second round picks to just move up three.
Speaker 1: Spots so that's not. Nothing that feels like a lot
Speaker 1: to move up three. Spots, however as you said last,
Speaker 1: night if you think that's the, guy if you think
Speaker 1: you've got the, guy go get the, guy.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah and that's what you really have to, Do.
Speaker 6: Spencer and that's one of the reasons why The jazz
Speaker 6: had been in this so called asset accumulation mode the
Speaker 6: last couple of, years getting all these draft. Picks it's
Speaker 6: just like having money in the bank and you have
Speaker 6: it for a rainy day for when you have an
Speaker 6: accident or something happens and you need extra money on
Speaker 6: the spot to get out of a hole or. Whatever
Speaker 6: this is why you have these these. Assets and So
Speaker 6: i'm going to make the. Assumption AND i don't know
Speaker 6: Because i'm not in the, room but they that they
Speaker 6: had Targeted Walter clayton as a guy they really liked
Speaker 6: that they thought might get to them at twenty. One
Speaker 6: what you do when you're when you're waiting on your,
Speaker 6: pick when the picks are starting to unfold and you're
Speaker 6: getting to fourteen fifteen, sixteen you're making phone calls to
Speaker 6: the teams either in front of you or that or
Speaker 6: the guys you know around the league that are locked
Speaker 6: in on what's happening on the, spot to, See, hey
Speaker 6: wh who are the guys in front of us going to?
Speaker 6: Take who are they gonna you, know, now it may
Speaker 6: be someone you're very good friends. With it may be
Speaker 6: a guy that you're really good friends with on another,
Speaker 6: team and you can call them, say, hey, dude who
Speaker 6: you guys taking and we're gonna take The jones, Kid, okay, okay,
Speaker 6: thanks and you, know and then you're you're you're jocking
Speaker 6: around behind the scenes trying to get all your duck lined.
Speaker 6: Up they may have made those calls and in the
Speaker 6: process found out that one of the teams in front
Speaker 6: of them at nineteen or twenty had an interest In
Speaker 6: clayton or we're going to take, him and so they
Speaker 6: probably and again this is just this is just an
Speaker 6: assumption or a guess on my part that they got
Speaker 6: to that information and they, said we Like clayton, enough
Speaker 6: we got to jump over a couple teams to get to.
Speaker 6: Him otherwise he's not going to get to. Us and
Speaker 6: so they made some a couple of quick phone, calls
Speaker 6: and they got To washington that it was At, Washington
Speaker 6: washington at eighteen and, said, hey you, know are you
Speaker 6: interested in trading back flop it flip flipping eighteen and twenty?
Speaker 3: One and, yeah, maybe, yeah what do you?
Speaker 6: Got you, know, well we'll get how about we throw
Speaker 6: in forty three and that's not enough for? Whatever, okay
Speaker 6: what what do you? Think and that goes back and, forth,
Speaker 6: right and that sometimes is literally a thirty or forty
Speaker 6: second the. Conversation you, know how about throwing marketing? In
Speaker 6: we'll take marketing in and, yeah we're not doing, That, okay,
Speaker 6: okay what about a.
Speaker 3: Second round pick next year or?
Speaker 6: Whatever and they quickly come, out come up with something
Speaker 6: that both sides agree, to and they, say, okay we're, Good,
Speaker 6: yeah we're.
Speaker 3: Good, okay we'll do.
Speaker 6: That and the Jazz i think we're in some kind
Speaker 6: of measure of that that regard where they said we
Speaker 6: need to get from twenty one to eighteen because one
Speaker 6: of those teams nineteen nineteen or twenty Either brooklyn Or
Speaker 6: miami might take, him.
Speaker 3: And that would be my.
Speaker 6: Guess and so they probably looked at it and, said
Speaker 6: we gotta get above those guys because one of those
Speaker 6: teams we've heard or we, understand like him, him and
Speaker 6: he's not going to get to, us. Okay and so
Speaker 6: that's why you do that. Deal and if you like
Speaker 6: the kid enough and you think he's a guy that
Speaker 6: you really want to bring into your, group and you
Speaker 6: think it's worth, it that's why you have that stuff
Speaker 6: in the. Bank that's literally what five years from, now
Speaker 6: six years from, Now that's why you have, it because
Speaker 6: we don't even.
Speaker 3: Know if we're gonna be here five or six years from.
Speaker 3: Now you, know we don't. Care that's why we have.
Speaker 6: It if we can use that as enticement to get
Speaker 6: a deal done now for something that we're sold, on
Speaker 6: then that's what we're gonna. Do AND i believe there
Speaker 6: was some version of that that caused that move to be.
Speaker 1: Made so the reports Were miami was ready to Take
Speaker 1: Walter clayton. Junior those were the, reports AND i think
Speaker 1: that was an athletic report THAT i saw. Laydive, OBVIOUSLY
Speaker 1: i can't cooperate. THAT i texted Pat, riley he didn't
Speaker 1: get back to.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 1: Wow so the reports are the jazz word twenty. One
Speaker 1: they very much Wanted Walter clayton junior and they heard
Speaker 1: That miami was going to take. Him at Twenty miami
Speaker 1: settled on Yakajonas, kid who was one of the top
Speaker 1: twelve prospects according to most mock drafts and big, boards
Speaker 1: so they probably did pretty well at. Twenty Brad stevens
Speaker 1: was asked About austin Drafting Walter clayton, junior and he,
Speaker 1: SAID i could have told you two years Ago austin
Speaker 1: was going to trade up to Draft Walter clayton. Junior
Speaker 1: Apparently austin has liked him for a long long. Time,
Speaker 1: okay well let's. See there you, go and if you're
Speaker 1: in a situation and you look at that draft board
Speaker 1: and you look at all the, possibilities and you're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out if we can get to a certain
Speaker 1: guy that we like and where we're. Drafting and you, know,
Speaker 1: look we had the same thing with you, know almost
Speaker 1: a decade ago With Donovan mitchell And Dennis lindsay really
Speaker 1: liked him and, really you, know really was really you,
Speaker 1: know hung up on trying to get. Him and we
Speaker 1: were picking twenty four and we had surmised and figured, out,
Speaker 1: well he's not going to get past, fifteen sixteen, seventeen
Speaker 1: so we have to get above Fifteen dean, Somehow and
Speaker 1: And dennis went to work and we were working the
Speaker 1: phones and finally got you, know got to be able
Speaker 1: to do the trade on the spot at the, moment you,
Speaker 1: know with With Tim conley and The Denver nuggets at that.
Speaker 1: Time you, know, again all those, things you, know might
Speaker 1: happen to a whole bunch, Differently, spence if just somebody
Speaker 1: makes a move in front of you that's different than
Speaker 1: what you. Expect for, Example Tim connley was hoping For
Speaker 1: denver to get a certain player at. Thirteen that player
Speaker 1: went went at, ten so he wasn't able to get
Speaker 1: the player he. Wanted so now he was willing to
Speaker 1: try and do go to play and b because the
Speaker 1: guy he was interested in was no longer. Available, okay
Speaker 1: he Liked Donovan, mitchell he didn't think he was quite worth. That,
Speaker 1: okay that's how everybody does their own a. Value dennis
Speaker 1: gets him on the. Phone hey what do you? Think he, Goes,
Speaker 1: well we're waiting to see if our guy is still. There,
Speaker 1: okay CAN i put you on?
Speaker 3: Hold?
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay you, know and we're literally on hold for
Speaker 6: several minutes and then get.
Speaker 3: Back you know what do you?
Speaker 6: Think he, Goes, yeah our guy just went, okay, yeah
Speaker 6: what do you what are you? Thinking and and then
Speaker 6: and boom boom boom and a deal like that is
Speaker 6: literally done in less than a, minute like on the. Phone,
Speaker 6: uh you, know how about? This how about? That and
Speaker 6: you know and, uh and they finally agreed on something
Speaker 6: the flip flop picks and also Throwing Trey, lyles who
Speaker 6: The jazz had drafted the year, before and, uh And
Speaker 6: denver liked him, some and we liked him. Some we
Speaker 6: still thought he could develop into a decent rotational.
Speaker 3: Piece.
Speaker 6: Uh But dennis Like Donovan mitchell enough that he thought
Speaker 6: that was worth you, know the gamble And Quinn snyder
Speaker 6: also was in on that at that at that precise,
Speaker 6: moment you, know giving the literally the thumbs up from
Speaker 6: across the table that, yeah let's let's let's do, that you,
Speaker 6: know and so you, know that's How Donovan Mitchell Otherwise
Speaker 6: Donovan mitchell goes TO i don't, Know toronto Or indiana
Speaker 6: or whatever a few picks, later and you, know and
Speaker 6: history is. Rewritten but that's that's sometimes how those things
Speaker 6: come together and how quickly they. Can they can work
Speaker 6: in your, favor or they can fall apart and not
Speaker 6: occur because you, know you don't get a trade done
Speaker 6: With washington because they change their mind or you're not
Speaker 6: offering them. Enough so they, say now we're just, gonna you,
Speaker 6: know roll with what we. Got and then they get
Speaker 6: to number twenty and and what you're, Saying miami Takes Walter.
Speaker 6: Clayton we missed by one, guy, yeah son Of now
Speaker 6: now The jazz have to go with another. Guy so
Speaker 6: however that would. Roll we we had that a lot
Speaker 6: of years. Ago you know who was you know who.
Speaker 6: Involved it was a second round pick and it was.
Speaker 6: Forty it was a forty two forty three forty four
Speaker 6: something like, that and we want we had zeroed in
Speaker 6: On Pat, conon And Pat conton went to pick before
Speaker 6: us To portland and so and we did the old you,
Speaker 6: know you, know, uh fist on the, table slam right.
Speaker 3: There, yeah, yeah you, know and and.
Speaker 6: Stuff so so those, things you, know sometimes can happen
Speaker 6: for you and sometimes they work against. You and that's
Speaker 6: why you you have those boards in, place and that's
Speaker 6: why you have all your contingencies lined up ahead of,
Speaker 6: time so you can just read and react like you
Speaker 6: have to in in in the game of basketball and
Speaker 6: the football, whatever see what's going on and then do
Speaker 6: something different on the spot in order to make something.
Speaker 6: Work and that's that's a lot of times what happens
Speaker 6: during the course of the.
Speaker 1: Draft so let's bottom line. THIS i do want to
Speaker 1: do some conversation concerning what the rotation could potentially look.
Speaker 1: Like but let's go back TO ace firmm In Ace, Bailey,
Speaker 1: UH i know you don't love. COMPS i don't really
Speaker 1: love comps, either the comps that are flying around About.
Speaker 1: Ace are you Hear Michael Porter? Junior you Hear Rishard
Speaker 1: lewis uh top? End you know a player like The tracy,
Speaker 1: McGrady a wing that can really and and look McGrady,
Speaker 1: was he's A hall Of. Famer so that's WHY i
Speaker 1: don't love the comparison. Game but just for our listener's
Speaker 1: frame of, Reference, smitt he is you've kind of dug
Speaker 1: in on the tape and you've got to know He's.
Speaker 1: Bailey let's assume full development and he reaches his. Potential
Speaker 1: what does that look like in THE.
Speaker 6: Nba, well he has a chance to be a very
Speaker 6: dynamic player on both ends of the floor if his
Speaker 6: head is, right if he comes in and he has
Speaker 6: the good attitude and he wants to be a better,
Speaker 6: player if he's if he doesn't have the attitude That
Speaker 6: i'm Already i'm already there and, okay let's go give
Speaker 6: me the. Ball you, know if he's willing to, learn
Speaker 6: if he's willing to work at, it he has the
Speaker 6: physical tools and the ability to really impact the game
Speaker 6: on both ends of the. Floor and so that's that's his.
Speaker 6: Upside that's what would be the best case scenario for,
Speaker 6: him is if he if he brings those things and
Speaker 6: brings that at. Ititude the guys you, mentioned by the,
Speaker 6: way all those Guys porter And lewis And tracey. McGray
Speaker 6: first of, all they're all bigger than this. Kid so,
Speaker 6: Okay so everybody had this kid At rutgers at six'
Speaker 6: ten and they found OUT the nba pre draft camp they.
Speaker 6: Measured him oh he's six seven and.
Speaker 1: A half just real quick before, you continue can you
Speaker 1: why are we measuring these prospects? WITHOUT shoes i, don't
Speaker 1: know you play basketball. Wearing shoes it's the. Dumbest thing, every, year,
Speaker 1: like oh he's six or five. Without shoes, i'm, like
Speaker 1: okay are we playing Barefoot? IN africa i believe they
Speaker 1: wear basketball shoes when. They, play anyway as, you were we.
Speaker 6: Said that we said that For, year spence we would
Speaker 6: argue that WITH the, nba people and, you know the
Speaker 6: the argument always came, back, was well, you know different
Speaker 6: guys have different types, of shoes and some guys have
Speaker 6: bigger soles than. Some guys well, you know, you know
Speaker 6: you know they have them wear the shoes, they wear or,
Speaker 6: you know have them all wear the. Same shoe once
Speaker 6: you guys get a Deal with nike and have, everybody
Speaker 6: measured and you could even. Promote it, You Know ace
Speaker 6: bailey is sixth state and a Half the Nike air
Speaker 6: zoom two's you know or, what, yeah, yeah, Yeah YEAH
Speaker 6: but i don't know why they. Do it it's it's
Speaker 6: the dumbest thing is it's it's it's close to this
Speaker 6: thing we mentioned yesterday about why they don't make the.
Speaker 6: Trades official at the moment teams agree to him and, they,
Speaker 6: say oh, you know, You know utah's taking, this guy
Speaker 6: but then he's gonna trade him later, or whatever and,
Speaker 6: you wizards, you're, actually, Yeah exactly so so what THAT
Speaker 6: is i, don't know, but uh, But yeah bailey is
Speaker 6: is shorter than than. People thought so he's gonna play.
Speaker 6: And shoes he's gonna play basically at. Six,' nine, okay
Speaker 6: you know he's got a good. A good wingspan he's
Speaker 6: going to uh if. It's uh if he can play
Speaker 6: very well defensively because he's. A switchable guy he's got
Speaker 6: very good agility and, very good athleticism so. He can
Speaker 6: move so he's gonna be One of those jaden. McDaniel
Speaker 6: type guys he can play very well on both ends.
Speaker 6: Of the floor the, downside of him if he doesn't,
Speaker 6: reach that area is gonna be that his shooting doesn't.
Speaker 6: Get consistent enough everybody says he's a. Very good, shooter
Speaker 6: you know what He was at rutgers really was more of.
Speaker 6: A streak shooter so he had games where he either
Speaker 6: didn't shoot it well or. Didn't shoot enough he's not.
Speaker 6: A consistent shooter but when he had when he's in
Speaker 6: a rhythm and he's in a flow and, stuff like
Speaker 6: that he can get his shot off because he has
Speaker 6: good mechanics, and he's long so he can. Shoot over
Speaker 6: people his efficiency was. Not that great his decision making.
Speaker 6: Sometimes was questionable He's had sometimes he also was very
Speaker 6: very suspect in his ball handling in, tight you know
Speaker 6: and so that that presented, problems at times and, so you,
Speaker 6: know but hey we take.
Speaker 3: A step. Back he's eighteen he's.
Speaker 6: Got some skills he's got some natural basketball instincts that,
Speaker 6: are very good that are good groundwork and foundation to.
Speaker 6: Work off of now the, coaches get him they get him,
Speaker 6: in the gym they start, working with them they see
Speaker 6: what his aptitude and his appetite is for working hard
Speaker 6: and trying to develop the weaknesses, in his game and
Speaker 6: that will tell us a lot about what kind of.
Speaker 6: Player he has a. Chance to become.
Speaker 1: Let's Move Over To walter, clayton junior now who simply
Speaker 1: has won everywhere he's been and has improved every year he's,
Speaker 1: been in college so back to. Back state championships, in
Speaker 1: high school when He Played for Rick, patino at iona
Speaker 1: They Won The mac Conference Walter one mac Player. Of
Speaker 1: the year he then transfers to Go Play for todd
Speaker 1: Golden at The university of florida where they win. The
Speaker 1: National Championship And walter clayton junior is your final four.
Speaker 1: Most outstanding player There's a little jamal murrayish there with.
Speaker 1: HIS shot, MAKING i mean i was watching some stuff
Speaker 1: last night. IN this morning i like. Watching him. Play
Speaker 1: he's smooth he's like a fun. Player to watch he's.
Speaker 1: Got great handles six to two twenty. Two years old
Speaker 1: the data indicates players that are drafted in that range
Speaker 1: that are that age. DON'T necessarily, stick i mean it's
Speaker 1: a really wild exercise when you just go look at
Speaker 1: number eighteen, picks in history or how many top ten
Speaker 1: picks are even on the team that drafted them from.
Speaker 1: Five years ago like we do This Thing where austin
Speaker 1: ainge cracks a, mic and says this is. Our dream
Speaker 1: scenario we got the two. Names we wanted. Two weeks
Speaker 1: ago we identified these two names we, walked away with
Speaker 1: and it's, kind, of like dude it's like the college
Speaker 1: Football coach On national signing day that says we got,
Speaker 1: everyone we wanted, and it's like you're the sixty. Seventh
Speaker 1: ranked class, no you didn't but you're just saying it
Speaker 1: to appease the fans or. What, have you so as,
Speaker 1: you've dug in you've watched him, Over the years i'll
Speaker 1: ask you. The same question fully developed, as a pro
Speaker 1: what does it Look Like for. Walter, CLAYTON junior.
Speaker 6: Well i think he's a, very SOLID player but I
Speaker 6: think he's he's the kind OF guy who i like
Speaker 6: the way his game flows because he doesn't get too
Speaker 6: high too. Low during games he just kind of plays on.
Speaker 6: An even keel he's a very. Good shot maker he
Speaker 6: never seems to be. Out of control they never seem
Speaker 6: to be able. To rush him they get. Him sped
Speaker 6: up he seems to have control of himself. OF his
Speaker 6: game i don't know how much more he has in
Speaker 6: the tank in. Terms, of improvement okay what he brings
Speaker 6: to the table right now is, probably you know enough
Speaker 6: to get him by, uh you know but again at,
Speaker 6: at six, two you know, he's, another short, shorter should
Speaker 6: say backcourt guy to add to the Group that. The
Speaker 6: jazz Have Whether it's chante george at Six Three or
Speaker 6: colin sexton at six two Sixty Three or jordan clarkson,
Speaker 6: at six' four they have a lot of smallish type
Speaker 6: guards uh that. Are IN their group and i just
Speaker 6: think that there they need to somehow and some regard
Speaker 6: get bigger guys in the backcourt that can help in
Speaker 6: terms of, stopping the ball early because that's been one
Speaker 6: of their issues. As a defensive team they have a
Speaker 6: very poor defensive team the last couple of, years by
Speaker 6: all metrics uh and and in two of the things
Speaker 6: they they could never do is guard the three point
Speaker 6: shot because of their their lack of length the perimeter
Speaker 6: and also their, transition defense was horrible and so they
Speaker 6: couldn't stop anybody when people would be throwing the ball
Speaker 6: up over over. The mid court line they just they
Speaker 6: couldn't stop him from getting on. Top of the rim
Speaker 6: so you have, to have athletic guys but you. Have
Speaker 6: to have length, that's something you know, the kind, of
Speaker 6: thing for example brings into Mind A. Guy like ace
Speaker 6: bailey if he's on the floor and he's, one of
Speaker 6: those guys he's the guy who, can use, his length,
Speaker 6: his athleticism his agility is quickness to be able to
Speaker 6: get in front and. Stop balls and transition that's what.
Speaker 6: You want to Like they must like clayton in terms
Speaker 6: of his overall ability, to be a winner to bring
Speaker 6: a solid, playmaker on the floor someone, who plays within
Speaker 6: himself someone who makes the right plays. Most of, the
Speaker 6: time because again they use the first round pick on
Speaker 6: a six to two, guard who's you know not overly athletic,
Speaker 6: or a dynamic shooter or has some skill that's, just off,
Speaker 6: The charts you know so they, must really, like something
Speaker 6: you know that they think can help their group in,
Speaker 6: terms of being successful because that's that just adds another
Speaker 6: short backcourt. Guy to the group they already have.
Speaker 1: Your points well, taken and you know we'll see, how
Speaker 1: this plays out and this. Is The last thing then
Speaker 1: i'll set you loose so you Can Go watch them
Speaker 1: RYAN Kulkbrenner tape for us round two tonight and maybe
Speaker 1: catch a little nap before another. Late night on air
Speaker 1: so last thing smitty When it comes to ace and
Speaker 1: When It Comes, to walter clayton junior, how do you
Speaker 1: think rotationally this. IS going, TO look i mean i
Speaker 1: do Feel, like THERE and gordy when i asked, in
Speaker 1: this last night, pushed, BACK and said no i feel
Speaker 1: like There's A World where walter clayton junior could take
Speaker 1: the starting point Guard job just because I'm not Sold,
Speaker 1: on KEYANTE or isaiah and i wonder What They do
Speaker 1: with colin Sexton or reports the dallases Maybe inquiring to
Speaker 1: have colin kind of. Keep, The ship. Aflow well kyrie's
Speaker 1: hurt will have. To see what, happens and you know
Speaker 1: When It comes to ace bailey at the age, of
Speaker 1: eighteen years old? Does he start Over If they, bring
Speaker 1: john collins back who played well, for them last year Does?
Speaker 1: HE start, over john i, mean coaches like vets. They
Speaker 1: don't like rookies so last thing, for this hit rotationally
Speaker 1: what do you expect to see next year from both. These,
Speaker 1: TWO young rookies.
Speaker 6: Well i think the way that it's gonna be Depending
Speaker 6: on how the jazz form their Roster, between NOW and
Speaker 6: october because i think there's gonna be a potential for.
Speaker 6: A lot of, changes you've, got to you know to
Speaker 6: use the, off off quoted phrase there's a. New, Sheriff
Speaker 6: In town okay austin ange is. Making the decisions now
Speaker 6: so is he wanted does he believe in some of
Speaker 6: the guys in this group are a lot of guys
Speaker 6: he wants to move on. From, whatever that is obviously.
Speaker 6: THOSE are unilateral decisions a lot of people weigh in on,
Speaker 6: those kinds of things but he's, the ultimate, decision maker
Speaker 6: you know he's a look at that and he's been
Speaker 6: looking at it from afar through the, eyes of his
Speaker 6: dad who's been here, a few years now and then
Speaker 6: he comes in and now. He's part of it so
Speaker 6: he has kind of a unique perspective in a couple of.
Speaker 6: Ways in that regard and so he's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 6: reshape the roster and there's nothing that's Off, limits because
Speaker 6: again spence, as we've said before they had the worst.
Speaker 6: Record in the league they, were by most metrics the
Speaker 6: worst defensive. Team in the, league, they can, score okay
Speaker 6: you know but they have to there's a lot of holes.
Speaker 6: They have to fill and so how these two rookies
Speaker 6: WILL fit into that i think will be determined by
Speaker 6: who else they bring, in on the roster, who they
Speaker 6: shuffle out who who, else they bring in either through
Speaker 6: trades or through free agent, signings in the summer whatever
Speaker 6: they decide to do. To remake the Roster and then
Speaker 6: in october we'll have a better feel for what, the
Speaker 6: roster looks like and then what these two guys what.
Speaker 6: Their ROLES would be But i would assume bailey would
Speaker 6: have as an as a number five pick and a
Speaker 6: guy the type of player they need badly and, there
Speaker 6: on their roster that he would have every opportunity to
Speaker 6: come in and get, major minutes, right away you know.
Speaker 6: At that three spot And, then this, kid clayton you
Speaker 6: know may be a rotational guy. Coming off the bench
Speaker 6: but also depends who. Else is still there it depends
Speaker 6: on any kinds Of Strides that the isaiah collier kid
Speaker 6: takes during the summertime as a, as A Point guard
Speaker 6: what keante george has done during the. Summer to improve
Speaker 6: him if either one of those guys is still On.
Speaker 3: The Roster come october.
Speaker 6: But clayton will also have an opportunity at, some point,
Speaker 6: to show you know how he can stabilize an offense
Speaker 6: and how how he can, contribute to you know some
Speaker 6: kind of of sustainable performs. And improvement, going forward.
Speaker 1: All, right smitty head home, get a n app grind
Speaker 1: on some second round tape and we will see you in.
Speaker 1: Just a few hours.
Speaker 3: You're just grinding, away in.
Speaker 1: The desert right yeah and you know people think they want.
Speaker 3: To do.
Speaker 1: This job it's masonry i'm swinging the pick. IN this
Speaker 1: SOLVED minds i know i can see all, THE scars on.
Speaker 1: You i, Know Man all right richard smith who was
Speaker 1: along for, the ride last night and we'll. Do round
Speaker 1: two TONIGHT Stay tuned you toahm mammoth made a trade
Speaker 1: yesterday in the MIDST of all the nba OFF season.
Speaker 1: Drama And, nba drafts neil smith former General Manager Of,
Speaker 1: the new york rangers will join us to. Break that
Speaker 1: trade down we'll do. A little Sports court. Don't FORGET
Speaker 1: Round two the, nba draft is tonight and we must
Speaker 1: be glutton for punishment because we will cover it like,
Speaker 1: we did round one starting at six o'clock when. We
Speaker 1: SAY good night but rsl back at action against an
Speaker 1: old rival coming up and some fun storylines surrounding. This
Speaker 1: little soccer, Club The head Coach, Pablo, Masteroni On, thursday,
Speaker 1: pops happy thursday man?
Speaker 3: How?
Speaker 7: Are we, doing happy spent doing.
Speaker 1: But appreciate the time so let's. Not Bury the Lead
Speaker 1: diego luna a. All star once Again Back to back All.
Speaker 1: Star selections for diego that HAS not Happened For rsl
Speaker 1: Since Nick romando and kyle beckerman. Over a decade ago
Speaker 1: so we have a lot to talk about That Does
Speaker 1: not involve all. Star selections and such but A. Nice,
Speaker 1: nod for diego pablo? What, ARE your thoughts.
Speaker 7: YEAH i think it's i think It's awesome for both.
Speaker 7: Diego and. THE club, you know i think, as we've,
Speaker 7: SPOKEN about you Know i think the millers want to
Speaker 7: really build a fantastic team that that can be, a
Speaker 7: PERENNIAL playoff team and i think in, order to do
Speaker 7: so you have to have players that are consistently playing at.
Speaker 7: A really High level i think diego, is a great
Speaker 7: EXAMPLE and and so i think it's it's a great
Speaker 7: step For the club and diego to, continue to you
Speaker 7: know mature into, a well rounded player a player that's
Speaker 7: playing at a really high level with the national team
Speaker 7: and someone that hopefully will be around for. Many years
Speaker 7: to come.
Speaker 1: What was your reaction when you had found out that
Speaker 1: you Were Selected to the all star team. FOR the
Speaker 1: first time i feel like that's kind of a nice
Speaker 1: little box check the dream that. Most, young players have.
Speaker 7: Yeah especially you know obviously not Not prevalent And in.
Speaker 7: Europe ALL star teams but i think growing up as
Speaker 7: a even if you JUST play, soccer as i, did you're,
Speaker 7: aware OF You Know The, nba All Star Game the
Speaker 7: baseball STAR Game And the nfl.
Speaker 2: Pro.
Speaker 7: GAME or you know i think it's just a great
Speaker 7: recognition AND and and and I think in today's mls
Speaker 7: it's a lot different than back in the day where
Speaker 7: there's so many stars in, in in our league and
Speaker 7: so to, be a you Know a player like diego
Speaker 7: who's now in HIS, third year of mls, and and you,
Speaker 7: know to be. Recognized it's pretty powerful and it's definitely,
Speaker 7: a boost, of confidence you know and you can also
Speaker 7: have the national team to his resume. And all these things,
Speaker 7: it's it's PRETTY impactful and it's i think an indicator
Speaker 7: that you're moving, in the right direction and a, great experience,
Speaker 7: as well you know because you get to you get to,
Speaker 7: meet All these guys obviously messi and all the other guys,
Speaker 7: that will be there and it's almost like a fraternity
Speaker 7: of sorts for four, days or, three days you know
Speaker 7: and you get to mingle and share experiences and get
Speaker 7: to know the guys that are across. The field from
Speaker 7: you some of the guys that you compete against, weekend
Speaker 7: and week out but some of the guys that you,
Speaker 7: grew up you know idolizing and really shaping your. Game
Speaker 7: around these players so it's going to be it's really
Speaker 7: a wonderful uh few days to be recognized and to spend.
Speaker 3: With the.
Speaker 7: OTHER guys you know i.
Speaker 1: ALWAYS talk about this, I don't THINK well, i Know
Speaker 1: i don't and i'm quite sure most of our domestic
Speaker 1: sports fans don't fully understand The Magnitude of who lionel
Speaker 1: MESSI is in the eco system simply of. THE sport,
Speaker 1: of Soccer I, Mean He's Michael, jordan he's tiger woods
Speaker 1: he's whatever name you want to throw attached to the
Speaker 1: sport that most people believe is the. GREATEST ever do
Speaker 1: it i know. There's a debate there i'm not educated enough,
Speaker 1: to HAVE a take but, i don't even know like,
Speaker 1: what the question is what do you think it's? Going
Speaker 1: To BE like for and i know, This has already
Speaker 1: happened but when you when, you take the field when,
Speaker 1: you take the pitch and you look over and literally
Speaker 1: the greatest ever do. It is standing there what what
Speaker 1: sort of osmosis or whatever the hell it is can
Speaker 1: be ascertained from just that experience of playing with training
Speaker 1: and playing in a game along with the greatest. That's, ever, done.
Speaker 7: It yeah yeah obviously it's, it's. IT'S almost surreal right
Speaker 7: i think it's an. Out of. BODY experience you know
Speaker 7: i had the Opportunity To play alongside David Beckham in,
Speaker 7: an all star game and, even in that MOMENT it
Speaker 7: was like i was in A different planet and i
Speaker 7: was just soaking it all up and asking him questions
Speaker 7: about his career, and and you know it's like one
Speaker 7: of your, one of your heroes is right, there next
Speaker 7: to you and and it's one of these moments that
Speaker 7: it's like you never, thought it was possible because You
Speaker 7: can imagine when, DIEGO was growing up messi, was in,
Speaker 7: his heyday you know and so then and they have
Speaker 7: a lot of similarities in, their game you Know And
Speaker 7: so i'm i'm i'm sure that he modeled a lot
Speaker 7: of what he does from What he saw with. Messi
Speaker 7: on the screen and then to share a locker room
Speaker 7: and a field and the opportunity to compete. IN the,
Speaker 7: game together i mean, it's it's it's unworldly it's it's it's.
Speaker 7: It's a magnificent opportunity it's it's it's hard to kind,
Speaker 7: of PUT into words BUT i think you're, I found
Speaker 7: myself Thinking i can't believe i'm in the same. Room
Speaker 7: with these guys like it's. Just, IT'S it's surreal yeah i.
Speaker 1: Can Remember when, we had beckham, here and you know
Speaker 1: initially He Came here with real Madrid And that was lows,
Speaker 1: galactakos and, they had, you Know rude band, mister roy
Speaker 1: and Uh, YOU could, keep kaka, I Mean, you know
Speaker 1: eco Cassius We. Could KEEP roberto carlos like i remember
Speaker 1: when that group. Walked into the hotel we were waiting
Speaker 1: for them to, get off the, bus and you know
Speaker 1: there there's such it's, like a holy bleep. Like they're actually,
Speaker 1: Here and you know beckham's whole thing is, like his
Speaker 1: celebrity ultimately like he was. A very good player i'm
Speaker 1: not trying to. Say that he wasn't he was a
Speaker 1: very good player for club And. Country AND in england
Speaker 1: But i feel like messi, is that. Times ten, YOU
Speaker 1: know like again i JUST don't know that i really
Speaker 1: have any an accurate frame of reference for what that
Speaker 1: dude is for the sport that.
Speaker 7: You're, so, CONSUMED with yeah no i think it'd Be
Speaker 7: reminiscent of WHEN pele came to. Nasl, in the seventies
Speaker 7: yeah in, the late early eighties Like that was the cosmo,
Speaker 7: sold out, Every STADIUM you know and i can't it's
Speaker 7: got to be the same field because when you're so accomplished,
Speaker 7: at the international level like it's one thing, for the
Speaker 7: you know the the average, sports, FAN to, Say, oh
Speaker 7: i know messi but this is someone that you grew
Speaker 7: up idolizing and watching him Win all, kinds of, european
Speaker 7: titles you know and, Being the you know blundo or
Speaker 7: winner player on the planet six or seven times, or
Speaker 7: whatever it is and now you're sharing. The, field with
Speaker 7: them yeah it would Be Like. Playing with michael jordan
Speaker 7: it's the, same type of, feel and you know very
Speaker 7: few people on the plant get the opportunity to spend
Speaker 7: even a moment with. SOME of these greats i.
Speaker 1: Have a little bit of a non sequitor odd QUESTION
Speaker 1: for you that i wanted to ASK you today when
Speaker 1: i saw you on the, rundown and you know we're
Speaker 1: right smack dab in THE Middle of The nba draft with,
Speaker 1: Round one last. Night Round two tonight and i'm always
Speaker 1: fascinated at the dynamic of the synergies between front offices
Speaker 1: and coaching staffs and how that manifests and pertains. To
Speaker 1: decision making processes and every front, office does it, different
Speaker 1: and quite frankly even front offices that are essentially, set
Speaker 1: up the same they, do a different too because, people
Speaker 1: are just different and, personalities are just different and, priorities
Speaker 1: are just different and experiences. Are not the same how is, The?
Speaker 1: Process coming along pablo you've had, a lot of changeover
Speaker 1: and the weird thing is a lot of changeover in
Speaker 1: the mid some Really good success like elliott did build a,
Speaker 1: team that was successful and you COACHED a team that
Speaker 1: i thought was the most, exciting we've. Had here maybe
Speaker 1: ever but now there's, a new ownership group there's a.
Speaker 1: New primary decision maker you were let's see here strongly
Speaker 1: encouraged to embrace. Your new Insistent coaches is. How i'll
Speaker 1: put that how is this process coming along, with the
Speaker 1: different ownership, the different front, office the different coaches and
Speaker 1: all the personnalities you have in the, rooms, Where it,
Speaker 1: happens sorry hamilton fans to try to kind of figure
Speaker 1: out how you guys are going to make.
Speaker 3: This work.
Speaker 7: As far as the draft, moving forward next, year.
Speaker 1: Just, in general just everything, whether it's you know the
Speaker 1: synergies to try to sign players or. Just, The Project,
Speaker 1: overall jason tony kirk. You, The, whole thing.
Speaker 7: Yeah well the one thing and that hasn't. Changed from
Speaker 7: last year whilst quite a few players have come and.
Speaker 7: Gone from last year the one thing that we stick
Speaker 7: to as both front office and coaching. Staff is, OUR
Speaker 7: processes you know i think the one thing is the
Speaker 7: because it takes time to develop really deep relationships like,
Speaker 7: those don't happen overnight and so the processes help us
Speaker 7: continue to be in the rooms, after all the games
Speaker 7: when there's big decisions to be, made about a player
Speaker 7: we're all in the same room were we. All have,
Speaker 7: open dialogue you know we, we the you know the
Speaker 7: best idea wins and how are the best idea as
Speaker 7: far as how we're going to go through the process
Speaker 7: wins and so it's super collaborative And and and, and i'll,
Speaker 7: say that you know the, the change of, ownership whilst
Speaker 7: you know it just seems like it's a trans there's
Speaker 7: there's now there's there's a new ownership group and, and
Speaker 7: THEIR vision is, like i said earlier is to Build
Speaker 7: A team that salt lake fans can really wrap their
Speaker 7: arms around for for. Many years to come and so
Speaker 7: that that's obviously trying To Keep Players like diego diego
Speaker 7: luna and and some, Of our you know mechanelli and
Speaker 7: some of these players that are going to be the core.
Speaker 7: Players of THE team and so i think we're all.
Speaker 7: Aligned ON those things and i think that that comes
Speaker 7: from having deeper relationships. Than this, Business titles you KNOW
Speaker 7: oftentimes it's a gm and a coach and those, two
Speaker 7: Have different PERSPECTIVES and kurt and i also have. Different
Speaker 7: PERSPECTIVES at times but i think it's the it's the
Speaker 7: communication within the constant communication within that relationship that helps
Speaker 7: us both find a good middle ground to move. Forward as,
Speaker 7: a group you Know and That involves jason and tony
Speaker 7: and the coaching staff and, then, Ownership as WELL right
Speaker 7: and so i think whilst it's been a, LOT of
Speaker 7: moving parts i think the consistency and the same people
Speaker 7: in the room at least from the front office, and
Speaker 7: the coaching staff has allowed for this transition to be
Speaker 7: as seamless as possible whilst working to improve. The group
Speaker 7: moving forward.
Speaker 1: So the annual and every, time this, COMES out you
Speaker 1: know i always just kind of find it and are
Speaker 1: interesting to. Dig through this list so the total roster
Speaker 1: spend list was released and maybe YOU guys have well
Speaker 1: i know you, have access to this but, when it
Speaker 1: becomes public it becomes. Something that people, debate and you,
Speaker 1: know as of now you, Guys, are third love yeah
Speaker 1: the Third Lowest payroll. In major league soccer how does
Speaker 1: something like that land with the head coach, of.
Speaker 7: The, TEAM again, YOU know i know i know you hate,
Speaker 7: hearing me say this but like that stuff is beyond.
Speaker 7: My beyond our control, there's there's you know at. Least
Speaker 7: beyond my control my job IS to make SURE i
Speaker 7: do everything i can to get the best out of the. Players,
Speaker 7: that we have obviously there's there's room for. Growth in
Speaker 7: that department and we're working steadfastly to to to improve
Speaker 7: the group, and bringing you, know some difference makers both
Speaker 7: in the attacking side. And the defensive side, and so
Speaker 7: you know things obviously haven't gone the way they have
Speaker 7: the way. We Wanted them to but i'm, always THE
Speaker 7: eternal optimist and i think that through the struggles that
Speaker 7: we had in the first, PART of The season i,
Speaker 7: mean I'VE seen it and i felt that the maturity
Speaker 7: of the group going through. Some very difficult times and
Speaker 7: now if we can stabilize a group and get a
Speaker 7: couple more good results and then bring, IN some difference
Speaker 7: makers i think we'll set ourselves up for a good
Speaker 7: run in the second, half of the season but more importantly.
Speaker 7: Next year and beyond so whilst the current situation is,
Speaker 7: IT has, been difficult, i think you know given that
Speaker 7: we have, MONEY and to spend i think it allows
Speaker 7: us to now really be precise and the type of,
Speaker 7: player that we want type of, character that we want
Speaker 7: and the position that we need in order to. Really
Speaker 7: make a.
Speaker 1: PUSH you love when i. Ask you those questions it.
Speaker 1: JUST makes your day i know how. MUCH you enjoy
Speaker 1: it i appreciate your. WILLINGNESS to, answer it i mean look,
Speaker 1: In a roundabout way i'm trying to, get your back
Speaker 1: right and that's kind of.
Speaker 7: Like, GIVE the guys, YEAH i get, it i get it,
Speaker 7: but you also. Understand like my STANDPOINT sure if if
Speaker 7: i look, at It that perspective and i'm Just the
Speaker 7: victim and, I'm not helping this i'm not trying. To
Speaker 7: find A solution i'm just, i'm just, you know you know.
Speaker 7: They're just tossing blame and ONE of the things i never.
Speaker 7: DO is blame anyone i always, look AT myself, first,
Speaker 7: and i go man we, Got, to do, better, pablo
Speaker 7: let's go, man we. Got this you know and so.
Speaker 7: That's just my, MINDSET but but yeah i think you,
Speaker 7: need to, represent uh you know level of consistency, and
Speaker 7: and you know elite performers to be perennial playoff to be,
Speaker 7: a PERENNIAL playoff team and i think, we're working towards
Speaker 7: that probably not as fast as, some people would like
Speaker 7: but just know that the work is getting. Done behind the,
Speaker 7: SCENES and uh again i believe in the direction we're
Speaker 7: moving in and really proud of the uh, the way
Speaker 7: you know the. Guy played last game the guys have
Speaker 7: trained the last couple of weeks. Leading INTO this game
Speaker 7: so i think we're we've got some. Positive momentum moving forward.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like going third person is an accurate? Portrayal,
Speaker 1: of your, Humility pablo, Just kidding. I'll stop i'll stop.
Speaker 7: I'm just there's, Somebody, that lives upstairs spence and and.
Speaker 7: That's just the truth and he's he's always digging in
Speaker 7: and he's always trying to get. Me to do more
Speaker 7: but it's not third person like the the guy that's better,
Speaker 7: than it's third person like there's there's some there's some
Speaker 7: Person living upstairs that. I'm ALWAYS dealing, with.
Speaker 1: Now i, Know man. I'm look I'M impossible it's why.
Speaker 1: I can't stay married so. That's that's, The deal? All
Speaker 1: right moving on you. Reference, your last game Uh Let's Start,
Speaker 1: with johnny johnny russell who we've been waiting to see
Speaker 1: fit and inform and, opens his bank account as the,
Speaker 1: Soccer folk will say. So let's start there uh what
Speaker 1: was that like for you to see? Him tally that
Speaker 1: goal and then expand as far as what you? Like,
Speaker 1: THE performance Overall.
Speaker 7: Yeah i think i'll start with just. The collective, team,
Speaker 7: PERFORMANCE you know again i think in soccer the ideal
Speaker 7: is score a couple of goals. And GIVE nothing up
Speaker 7: and i think, from top to bottom the guys, that
Speaker 7: started the game the guys that came in the game really.
Speaker 7: Had A great impacts so i would look at that as.
Speaker 7: A collective Team, performance and, then johnny you know we
Speaker 7: brought him in because we felt like we could use
Speaker 7: we can, lean on his experience but also, he can
Speaker 7: make PLAYS and. YOU know i can i can show
Speaker 7: you probably twenty five other times in the season where
Speaker 7: we had the Same similar situation that johnny was in
Speaker 7: and he. Just CAPITALIZED on, it and, i think you
Speaker 7: know as he, WAS dribbling the ball i knew exactly
Speaker 7: what he was thinking as he was, cutting across the
Speaker 7: field is that he's going to go near post on
Speaker 7: the goalkeeper and use the other players a screen so the.
Speaker 7: Goalkeeper couldn't see it and, those, are, things that like,
Speaker 7: again we train them but it's one thing to. Train
Speaker 7: it without pressure it's another thing to have the game feel, like,
Speaker 7: A TRAINING session right and i think you have to
Speaker 7: be so calm and poised in those moments that are,
Speaker 7: really HECTIC and Fast and i think johnny's experience and
Speaker 7: his quality really a. Lot of to do, so so
Speaker 7: you know he's been he's been struggling with a little.
Speaker 7: Bit OF an adductor but i believe that he'll be
Speaker 7: in a good, way for you know this, game at
Speaker 7: the weekend and and hopefully you know, he's going back
Speaker 7: HOME uh to k c and you know, he's got
Speaker 7: you know he's he's really pumped. Up for this game
Speaker 7: so both him and an extra motivational aspect to their
Speaker 7: performance THIS. Weekend, heading into skc.
Speaker 1: Oh, He's. Got to play boblo he's tell him to
Speaker 1: take whatever you. Need for the abductor he's Got, to
Speaker 1: play On, saturday doesn't.
Speaker 7: He yeah on. One leg he'd play it would just
Speaker 7: be it'd be impossible for him not to be. Out
Speaker 7: in the field and and and again it was. Just
Speaker 7: a little strained we, were cautious, with it you know,
Speaker 7: given that you know he those were his first forty
Speaker 7: five minutes and he left the. Game with an adductor,
Speaker 7: but he's recovered well he's, trained great this, week he's been,
Speaker 7: sharp he's BEEN bright, and like i said more, importantly than.
Speaker 7: Anything else he's motivated.
Speaker 1: And if we're Going to crack on diogo because he,
Speaker 1: has and played well we need to give him flowers
Speaker 1: from when he does something he Tally the assist on
Speaker 1: johnny's goal with a. Very, nice through.
Speaker 7: Ball yeah and and the play that actually before he
Speaker 7: actually played the through ball spence with some high level
Speaker 7: technical Work yep to like bob and we between, two
Speaker 7: or three guys and and this is What we've seen
Speaker 7: in diega when he's, playing at. His best you know
Speaker 7: and and and. REALLY you're absolutely right i think it's
Speaker 7: a moment to really mentioned how hard you know he's
Speaker 7: worked in these last couple of weeks to put himself
Speaker 7: in position to play as well as he did and
Speaker 7: contribute on a. Really really, important goal you know he
Speaker 7: put that ball In. The play for, johnny and YOU
Speaker 7: know and so i can't say enough, things because, you
Speaker 7: know in sports everyone, thinks it's it's uh, everyone's, Got
Speaker 7: it easy right these, guys are well, paid everything's you
Speaker 7: know what what. Could possibly we're on but we're all
Speaker 7: human beings and and, and we all suffer and we
Speaker 7: all go through good. Times and BAD times and and
Speaker 7: i think when professional athletes are going, through a tough
Speaker 7: time it's times one hundred because of the, scrutiny from
Speaker 7: the public and it's. And it's NOT easy and So
Speaker 7: i see What i've seen in diego is really this
Speaker 7: evolution of a man in a way, that has you
Speaker 7: know he's going through probably one of the most difficult,
Speaker 7: parts of his life but then steps on the field
Speaker 7: and is one, of our best players if not our best.
Speaker 7: Player on the weekend so really proud of him and
Speaker 7: really excited to see what he can continue building. As we, move.
Speaker 1: Forward, All right last thing i'll set you loose on
Speaker 1: this kind of a sneaky big game for a Number, Of,
Speaker 1: different reasons SATURDAY namely you and skc are right. Next
Speaker 1: to each, Other they've got. Nineteen you've got eighteen wanting to,
Speaker 1: keep that momentum rolling so give us. A little helped
Speaker 1: update do you have a chance to repeat your starting
Speaker 1: eleven for the? First time in? Months which is wild
Speaker 1: what are We? Expecting to see saturday how do you?
Speaker 3: Come?
Speaker 1: Away with, THREE.
Speaker 7: Yeah you know i think, FOR us it's again i
Speaker 7: think we've learned a lot from the games that, we've
Speaker 7: played so far and the one thing is the way
Speaker 7: we get after the BALL. Was REALLY against dc and
Speaker 7: i think when we press higher up the field. And
Speaker 7: we cause turnovers now We got Guys like Gozo and
Speaker 7: reilly and johnny in positions, to REALLY counter right and
Speaker 7: i think that's going. TO be really important i think
Speaker 7: the heat will. Play a, big factor so again dominating
Speaker 7: game or controlling the game with the ball will. Be another,
Speaker 7: critical aspect you know They had a, game wednesday or
Speaker 7: yesterday and so how can we really dictate the? Game
Speaker 7: WITH the ball and i think that. Will be the
Speaker 7: key so, We've got to execute we've we've, got to
Speaker 7: you know take our. Chances when they come but more
Speaker 7: importantly is how can we control the flow of the?
Speaker 7: Game WITH the ball and i think we have the.
Speaker 1: Team to, Do, that all right buddy thanks, For the
Speaker 1: time today best of. Luck throughout the. Weekend We'll, Chat.
Speaker 7: Soon, Awesome Spence Thanks buddy boblo.
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Speaker 1: Season pass i got ROUND Two of. The nba draft
Speaker 1: tonight we coround one for you from start, to finish
Speaker 1: last night which means your boy got home, at about
Speaker 1: ten o'clock a nice little eight. Hour radio shift yesterday we'll.
Speaker 1: SEE what tonight brings i believe it's only four minutes
Speaker 1: Between picks. Tonight, for round two however WE Do have
Speaker 1: the nhl draft coming Up Tomorrow and the utah mammoth
Speaker 1: will draft fourth overall after receiving. A little Lottery Luck
Speaker 1: and the utah mammoth, Also made a trade so we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that AND a bunch more nhl offseason stuff,
Speaker 1: with our Next Guest, the great neil Smith back on The. Drive,
Speaker 1: On A, thursday, neil happy thursday? Sir how are.
Speaker 2: You i'm. Real good thank you that was quite A,
Speaker 2: Trade for the mammoth.
Speaker 1: So let's start. There let's, start There You Know ultimately
Speaker 1: josh don michael kesserline two players that a lot of
Speaker 1: people around here. Liked an awful lot but let's get to.
Speaker 1: Know this new player It looked like the sabers were
Speaker 1: gonna part WAYS. RESTRICTED free agent jj I. Think it's
Speaker 1: peterca is how, You? Say the name neil tell us
Speaker 1: about this young man and what do you.
Speaker 2: Think, of the Trade well He's, A, german FROM munich
Speaker 2: germany and i think it's A. Great trade for utah
Speaker 2: if you go strictly on, getting the best player they definitely.
Speaker 2: Got the best player peterca's got twenty seven goals last,
Speaker 2: year sixty eight. Points is a threat he's a definite
Speaker 2: upgrade for the HOCKEY club or want, i say hockey
Speaker 2: club you still called. The team's hockey clubs i'm not
Speaker 2: saying that. As, the OLD name Sure But. I like
Speaker 2: michael kesslering, he's a big kid and you know it.
Speaker 2: Brings some real size but when you get a chance
Speaker 2: to Get, a guy like paca you've got to part with.
Speaker 2: A Couple Of guys and josh done, is only twenty
Speaker 2: three but that's The. Same age as patka so That's
Speaker 2: Great for the utah mammoth because they're. Getting a young
Speaker 2: guy and as we've talked, about so many times this is.
Speaker 2: Like their free agent that he's. Not a free agent,
Speaker 2: it was a, trade but, it's like you know free
Speaker 2: agency coming.
Speaker 1: Early for this, team twenty seven goals forty one Assists,
Speaker 1: last year for potika. Sixty eight points overall so let's
Speaker 1: dig in. A little bit deeper. He's a right Winger.
Speaker 1: YOU mentioned, He's german i mean i've got some stuff
Speaker 1: in front. Of me right now he, looks like. A
Speaker 1: big sturdy Kid So for our utah, mammoth fans out
Speaker 1: here let's dig. A little bit deeper exactly what type?
Speaker 1: Of player is he where do you think he fits?
Speaker 1: The top six four do you think he's? On the
Speaker 1: front line how do you? THINK it plays out.
Speaker 7: I think he.
Speaker 2: Could he could end up. On the first line he's
Speaker 2: certainly end up. On the, power play you know he's
Speaker 2: an offensive. Threat all the time he played seventy seven
Speaker 2: games and. Got sixty eight points so you're almost at
Speaker 2: a Point Of game on buffalo sabers who didn't make
Speaker 2: the playoffs and didn't. Have a GREAT season and if i,
Speaker 2: WANT to be sarcastic I could say that utah might
Speaker 2: Be Headed for the stanley Cup because they have buffalo
Speaker 2: has traded away so many guys that have Ended Up,
Speaker 2: winning The Stanley Cup, like sam ryan hart and just
Speaker 2: to mention one and, a number of others that maybe
Speaker 2: luck Will have it with utah this time and peterca
Speaker 2: will End up in a Utah Jersey. Winning The, Stanley Cup.
Speaker 1: Love it love it five year contract extension average annual
Speaker 1: value is about. Seven point seven mil what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts On The deal That. Bill armstrong, gave paterca.
Speaker 2: You, know it's, the money of course is to normal everyday,
Speaker 2: folks is crazy money but it's where the player would
Speaker 2: be because of the production he's getting it and the
Speaker 2: production that he. Will Get going forward And i'm sure
Speaker 2: that bill and His staff have analyzed paterca a lot
Speaker 2: better than me and see that a real bright future.
Speaker 2: In front Of him, and again i'll emphasize he's only
Speaker 2: twenty three years old by the. Time the contract's over
Speaker 2: he's still in his, prime at twenty eight so he's
Speaker 2: going to have to live. Up to those numbers that's
Speaker 2: a lot of money for a kid that. Scored TWENTY
Speaker 2: seven goals but i would imagine that, they see, in
Speaker 2: him you know him getting better and better, as time
Speaker 2: goes on and that's why they were willing.
Speaker 3: To do that.
Speaker 1: Contract do you think this trade and this acquisition changes
Speaker 1: The approach? For tomorrow night's, Draft not at.
Speaker 2: All not at all, they'll TAKE the well, if i
Speaker 2: were them when the first, three guys get picked, whoever's
Speaker 2: the best player, no matter what position no matter what,
Speaker 2: country he comes, from no matter anything. That's who you
Speaker 2: take you don't draft based on position. Or anything like that,
Speaker 2: at that high pick get the best player you can
Speaker 2: possibly get in figure it out later if, you've got
Speaker 2: you know if it's a center that's available and, you've
Speaker 2: already got centers. Don't worry about it and, if it's
Speaker 2: a defenseman, you've already got Defenseman DON'T worry about so
Speaker 2: i think they'll get a real good. Player at number
Speaker 2: four Probably Won't, play in, salt lake you, know this
Speaker 2: coming season but they'll definitely. Get a good.
Speaker 1: Player so before we get to the specifics of, what
Speaker 1: tomorrow could bring just take us behind THE scenes of
Speaker 1: a nhl front office THE Night. Before the nhl draft
Speaker 1: What's going on with bill and his staff right now
Speaker 1: is they prepare to. Make the, selections tomorrow.
Speaker 2: You know they're just having more meetings and it is
Speaker 2: not up in the air who they're going to pick.
Speaker 2: For them right now they already know who the top
Speaker 2: four players, are in the draft, according to their staff.
Speaker 2: And they're well prepared they're probably talking a lot. ABOUT
Speaker 2: their second pick i don't have it in front of
Speaker 2: me where their second pick, is IN the draft but
Speaker 2: i would think they're spending more of their time trying
Speaker 2: to figure out who the, fourth guy would be because
Speaker 2: they know who they've got as, the top four guys
Speaker 2: and whoever's the best of those top four would be
Speaker 2: the guy that they'll. Take at number four.
Speaker 1: So let's move over now TO what tomorrow. And i could,
Speaker 1: bring and you know obviously it depends on what happens,
Speaker 1: in front. Of them, does it you know once upon
Speaker 1: a time it felt like number. One was Being debated but, Everything,
Speaker 1: i'm reading today neil is That It will be Matthew.
Speaker 1: Shaeffer to the islanders? Is that your understanding that's my.
Speaker 2: Understanding that he is he is pretty clear cut. The best,
Speaker 2: player there you know there's some there's always Some talk
Speaker 2: because the Islanders Have our Our long island and hagen's
Speaker 2: Who Played it in, hockey east This Year is from
Speaker 2: long island and He Grew, Up in long, island so
Speaker 2: you know would you wouldn't you try to. Get the
Speaker 2: hometown kid but you can't do that WHEN you're. Running
Speaker 2: an nhl Team you've got to you've got to take
Speaker 2: the best player. And Buy everybody's accounts matthew shaffer, is
Speaker 2: the best player and, he's A big defenseman and i
Speaker 2: would Imagine that's where.
Speaker 1: The islanders will Go so if, It's shaefer a one
Speaker 1: i've got a mock draft, in front of me do
Speaker 1: you Feel Like it's the michael? Mesa kidd It too that's.
Speaker 2: What i'm Hearing that. That's What i'm hearing michael misa.
Speaker 2: WOULD go number two a lot Of people. Don't have
Speaker 2: hagins three they. Got other somebody, else but you know
Speaker 2: once you get past, them very high guys it doesn't
Speaker 2: always go in any predictable manner, because what's you know
Speaker 2: what's one person's taste in the player, is not another
Speaker 2: person so you can. Always depend ON that but so
Speaker 2: i don't think it's clear cut that these are the.
Speaker 2: Definitely the top Three but, From what I'm hearing mesa
Speaker 2: and schaeffer. Are the top, Two and you know misa.
Speaker 2: Could go number one he. Had a remarkable season he
Speaker 2: got thirty more points than ANYBODY else in the. Ohl
Speaker 2: and that's remarkable he got sixty two goals. In sixty
Speaker 2: five games but they're hard, to get Franchise Defenseman and
Speaker 2: if matthew schaffer's a lot of, as a franchise defenseman
Speaker 2: they're probably. GOING To Go There.
Speaker 1: Ohl ontario hockey league it seems like a lot of
Speaker 1: these young prospects. You're playing up there tell our listeners
Speaker 1: about this and what sort of league it is and
Speaker 1: how it prepares these young men TO. Play, in the
Speaker 1: nhl well and then, That's.
Speaker 2: A good question spence because you know your listeners are
Speaker 2: mostly used to players being. Drafted, out of college YES
Speaker 2: that's where the, nba players come from AND a lot
Speaker 2: of nhl players come, out of college too but they
Speaker 2: also come Out Of The three canadian major junior, leagues
Speaker 2: what they're called and going, from west To East That's,
Speaker 2: the western hockey league which has all The. Teams west
Speaker 2: of Ontario You Have, the ontario hockey league, which has
Speaker 2: you know most of Their. Teams are in Ontario they
Speaker 2: do have, Erie In you know erie. Pennsylvania's in that
Speaker 2: league and Then You Have The Quebec major junior Hockey
Speaker 2: League and the memorial cup is the tournament at the
Speaker 2: end of the season between the three leagues to see
Speaker 2: who's going to win the big trophy for. All of
Speaker 2: junior hockey IT'S, it's a mini nhl to be honest
Speaker 2: with Your junior hockey in canada is the Closest Representation
Speaker 2: To the national hockey league and what you've, got to
Speaker 2: do there the travel and all, the rest of it
Speaker 2: and the game itself is is IT. Like a mini
Speaker 2: nhl so that's why a lot of scouts and teams
Speaker 2: prefer to take guys out of. The MAJOR junior hockey
Speaker 2: but i think That it is now college hockey is
Speaker 2: every bit as good at BREEDING ground for the nhl.
Speaker 2: As the, junior leagues.
Speaker 1: You actually you're getting good of this because you just answered.
Speaker 1: My Follow up question but i'm going to ask it
Speaker 1: anyway to elaborate of all, of the potential avenues of all,
Speaker 1: of the, potential pathways you know when it comes, to
Speaker 1: these different leagues when it comes to, these different you
Speaker 1: know avenues that, these young men take, whether it's college
Speaker 1: HOCKEY whether it's the ohl, or what have you is
Speaker 1: there a clear cut, Preferred, PATH, Way, again college ohl.
Speaker 1: International Whatever it is because i've got this mock draft
Speaker 1: in Front of me and i'm seeing like even throughout
Speaker 1: the FIRST, ten there's THE, whl there's the ohl there's
Speaker 1: the Q m j h. Hl whatever that is then
Speaker 1: There's College.
Speaker 2: That's The Quebec. Major, Junior hockey league.
Speaker 1: Okay so, Of, all the pathways neil is there a
Speaker 1: preferred one you look at as a roster constructor and
Speaker 1: a decision, maker, to feel like yes they're prepared the best. Because,
Speaker 1: they did, this.
Speaker 2: Uh you. KNOW not not, Really i mean there i'll.
Speaker 2: Give you some examples Connor. McDavid played for erie that's
Speaker 2: where he Was drafted By. By edmonton from erie, His
Speaker 2: His sidekick there Drii. Title played in germany uh and
Speaker 2: so there there's. Two totally different places, You can you
Speaker 2: know meithan McKinnon Played, in the quebec league. Who's a
Speaker 2: great player so they come from. All over the place
Speaker 2: and and there's a lot of great college players that
Speaker 2: ARE coming, into the nhl now so there's really not.
Speaker 2: A preferred meth place there used to be a very
Speaker 2: prejudicial to junior players because, they would they. Understood and
Speaker 2: they weren't they weren't, out getting an education they were.
Speaker 2: Out to play hockey but that's. Not the case anymore
Speaker 2: it's it's really not that now you're. GETTING them from
Speaker 2: everywhere i just found out today and Realized that Today
Speaker 2: that michael kessel Ring, Was Born. IN florence south carolina.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that i don't. THINK he lived there
Speaker 2: i think he was just born there and his DAD.
Speaker 2: PLAYED in the echl i didn't. Know all That stuff
Speaker 2: but what, i'm Saying to you why, i'm bringing that
Speaker 2: up is the players are coming from all over the
Speaker 2: place now and there's really not one hockey hotbed like.
Speaker 1: There used, To be all right, so to your point
Speaker 1: we don't know what the first. Three picks will be
Speaker 1: it Does feel like the shaeffer kid is, the consensus
Speaker 1: number One and every Mack i've, Seen has mesa too
Speaker 1: and then it seems. To, Get Pretty interesting uh anton
Speaker 1: FRONDELL is the mak i have in front of Me.
Speaker 1: Going Three to chicago brady martin is the name that
Speaker 1: This Mock has. The Utah mammoth taking but i've seen
Speaker 1: Another mock that has porter martone, the Selection at four
Speaker 1: and porter is a big forward, that prior to yesterday
Speaker 1: this hockey, club did not have but now they. Have one,
Speaker 1: of those any thoughts Then There's the aforementioned james HAGEN'S.
Speaker 1: Kid out of bc Any thoughts on who bill and
Speaker 1: His staff land on tomorrow night when the. Fourth pick,
Speaker 1: is called.
Speaker 2: You know There's There's talking about brady martin That Plays.
Speaker 2: In sus saint, marie i'd be, guessing to, Be honest
Speaker 2: he spins i'm just gonna flat. Out and say it
Speaker 2: I'D be guessing if i said WHO they're gonna who i.
Speaker 2: THOUGHT they would take i don't have the expertise, on
Speaker 2: THESE young kids but i do see some of the
Speaker 2: on some of The rating things that hagen's has fallen,
Speaker 2: down in people's mind. So you'd never know you Don't
Speaker 2: know what intel bill and his staff have on. All
Speaker 2: these particular players there's also psychological inventory testing done that
Speaker 2: way to see, what kind of character what kind of,
Speaker 2: Personality you're dealing with so then that comes. Into play
Speaker 2: on it so we'll just have. To WAIT and see
Speaker 2: and i think your guest at this point. Is, everybody's goroo's, mind.
Speaker 3: Well, You.
Speaker 1: KNOW it's interesting neil I was on A zoom call
Speaker 1: with bill two days ago Prior to, the p turko
Speaker 1: deal and he's very calculated with his messaging and he's
Speaker 1: very careful. NOT to, Promise anything i mean i've told
Speaker 1: you this anecdote when the introductory press conference took place
Speaker 1: where the fan base here was meeting that team, for
Speaker 1: the first time several of whom probably didn't have any
Speaker 1: frame of reference for what they were witnessing or how
Speaker 1: good or. Bad this team was it was just excitement
Speaker 1: that We Had, hockey In salt lake and liam O'Brien
Speaker 1: took the mic and really fired Up The Audience At.
Speaker 1: Delta center spicy, tuna people Started chanting and when bill
Speaker 1: had the opportunity, to address the, crowd, he basically said
Speaker 1: look everyone, knows We're. Still rebuilding right like he's very,
Speaker 1: careful about setting expectations and the messaging during his zoom
Speaker 1: call was the continued patients and the continued long game
Speaker 1: and the continued we're making good decisions one by one
Speaker 1: and we'll see. How it stacks up so reasonable expectations
Speaker 1: probably for either the fourth pick or the, rest Of
Speaker 1: The moves uh Pert turkas twenty, three, TO your point
Speaker 1: like i don't know that this is a front office
Speaker 1: that's in ANY hurried ex but. I have this process
Speaker 1: i think they're very committed to what they've already done
Speaker 1: and aren't going to continue to see it through, until
Speaker 1: it's you know the finished product. On, the other side.
Speaker 2: Well and that's smart, because first of all keeping every,
Speaker 2: in anything in life, keeping expectations in check is smart
Speaker 2: because you get yourself in a world to hurt if
Speaker 2: you start over promising and under delivering in the. IN
Speaker 2: the hockey business i think. That that's real smart the
Speaker 2: teams That Are, elite, teams edmonton florida obviously. They weren't
Speaker 2: built overnight they didn't just go bang and, get it,
Speaker 2: and work you. Know become that good it took many
Speaker 2: years and thoughtful construction. To GET them there and I
Speaker 2: would imagine that, bill's in, his mind, he's going you
Speaker 2: know this. Is the same THING now you and i
Speaker 2: have talked about their chances to Make the, Playoffs last
Speaker 2: next year i'm still going TO stick. To what i
Speaker 2: said they're going to be fighting to get into. The wild,
Speaker 2: card spot, you know last Year At this time Steve
Speaker 2: Eiserman And the detroit red wings thought that they'd be
Speaker 2: a playoff team or could be a playoff team, coming
Speaker 2: up this. Season it didn't happen things went wrong and.
Speaker 2: It just Didn't Happen and had steve eiserman, come, out
Speaker 2: and said oh we're going to make, The playoffs this
Speaker 2: year well now every but he's ticked, off because you
Speaker 2: know you said you'd make the. Playoffs and you didn't
Speaker 2: it's always better to over deliver and under promise and make.
Speaker 2: Everybody Happy THAT way but i'm I don't have a
Speaker 2: i don't have, A Job to lose so i'm going
Speaker 2: TO tell you that i think that there's A good
Speaker 2: chance for utah this, season to you know bang on
Speaker 2: the door of the wild CARD spots.
Speaker 1: Any other i know you guys just recorded, a free agent.
Speaker 1: Primer a draft primer so outside of the deals, that
Speaker 1: we've already discussed what are the main, storylines regarding, player
Speaker 1: acquisition player retention players that could be on the move
Speaker 1: that you guys. Are HONED in on before I Say,
Speaker 1: you lose, neil.
Speaker 2: Well you know there was a lot of we had
Speaker 2: a lot of talk about the big guys that are
Speaker 2: that are free their, usas unrestricted free Agents And of
Speaker 2: Course mitch marner from toronto heads the list because he's Not,
Speaker 2: going back to, toronto his home town so he's going
Speaker 2: to be out. There Looking for megabuck sam bennett has
Speaker 2: said at some of the celebrations That he's staying in
Speaker 2: florida and he Wants, To stay in florida so we'll see.
Speaker 2: WHAT happens with that i can't, imagine him being, like Let,
Speaker 2: you know letting Florida Letting, him leave brad marshan the elder,
Speaker 2: statesman of the team, thirty seven years old but prove
Speaker 2: that he's. An awesome playoff player he's out there and,
Speaker 2: he's been a leader he's Been Captain. Of the boston
Speaker 2: ruins we talked. About all those Guys we talked about
Speaker 2: florida and could they keep their team together And The
Speaker 2: job that bill, zito had done so and then We
Speaker 2: also talked about connor McDavid in his contract because he's
Speaker 2: got one year to go AND then He's a ufa
Speaker 2: if edmonton, lets IT get there which i will never
Speaker 2: imagine that they'll. Let It get there but connor McDavid
Speaker 2: came out last week and said he's in no hurry to,
Speaker 2: get a contract done that he wants to know that
Speaker 2: the team is going to be trying to win every
Speaker 2: year and doing everything they Can to Win a stanley
Speaker 2: cupany edmonton before he's. Going to resign there so that's
Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff that, we've been talking about
Speaker 2: and we'll have to wait and See. What happens on
Speaker 2: monday we're talking about tampering to a little bit because
Speaker 2: that's so obvious that that Goes on, Before The, july
Speaker 2: first because spence if If anybody announces on july first
Speaker 2: that they signed somebody, anytime before two o'clock they didn't
Speaker 2: make a deal in two. Hours on those things so
Speaker 2: DO you know what i mean the last year they
Speaker 2: were announcing deals. AT twelve, oh five i mean if
Speaker 2: you can do a seven year, deal in five. Minutes. That's,
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah look it. Happens in every sport how do, You
Speaker 1: govern that, though like YOU, KNOW, WHETHER, it's nhl nfl
Speaker 1: nba it's so very blatantly obvious. That it goes down
Speaker 1: but is there really any?
Speaker 2: Way to stop it there really isn't because there's so many.
Speaker 2: Ways to get, information so you know it's if somebody
Speaker 2: lets the cat. Out of the bag that's about the only.
Speaker 2: Way that you know somebody wants to, screw, somebody and
Speaker 2: say well you know so, And so called me and
Speaker 2: it's not the general managers. That are doing it they're
Speaker 2: not going to call anybody and, put themselves out there
Speaker 2: but they've got people that will get information and can
Speaker 2: find out if this. Guy wants to play is There
Speaker 2: Any chance that sam bennett, Will, Sign with you tody
Speaker 2: you talk if somebody, talks to his agents somebody, talks
Speaker 2: to his parents somebody, talks to his brother somebody talks,
Speaker 2: to somebody and says Tell me it was sam going to?
Speaker 2: Consider any place else, and, if, they said, oh yeah
Speaker 2: he is he definitely wants to see what well you, think, he'd,
Speaker 2: considers all like yeah for sure. If the money's there
Speaker 2: you know that. Those kinds of, Conversations you go BACK
Speaker 2: you tell the gm now he's. Waiting to see it like,
Speaker 2: They don't negotiate anything i'm sure or that that, would
Speaker 2: be really dumb but they do get their feelers out
Speaker 2: there and. Find, Out what's possible.
Speaker 1: Neil where can people go find the podcast that you
Speaker 1: guys you, know do in general but also that you
Speaker 1: Just Did On the Free Agent primer and draft primer
Speaker 1: and the. Draft, is tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: Yeah just go to our, website nhlraproound dot com Or
Speaker 2: go On to Apple or spotify or iHeart or any
Speaker 2: place where you listen to podcasts and see if there
Speaker 2: are YouTube if you. Want to watch, It But it's
Speaker 2: yeah pierre lebron was on and. He was really good
Speaker 2: we HAD before THAT and i think i mentioned this.
Speaker 2: To you Last Week we had pat verbikon who Had
Speaker 2: just traded For Crider and now pat verbeek made another
Speaker 2: big trade this Past Week and Trading. Trevor ziegrish to
Speaker 2: philadelphia that's going to be real interesting To see if
Speaker 2: if siegris turns out to be A Good player with rick,
Speaker 2: talkett as his coach and that's gonna that's gonna be.
Speaker 2: A very, interesting one but anyway there's always news going
Speaker 2: on at. This, Time of year.
Speaker 1: Neil thank you, sir always a pleasure a FUN perspective on.
Speaker 1: The eva the draft to have a great. Weekend with
Speaker 1: chat soon thank you and Good.
Speaker 2: Luck to, The, mammoth.
Speaker 1: Yes indeed Yes Indeed the great neil smith roster constructor at.
Speaker 1: The highest Of Levels one a Stanley Cup with The
Speaker 1: Blue Sweaters the new york rangers, in nineteen ninety Four
Speaker 1: Work For the detroit red Wings And Also. The new
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Speaker 1: All Right the utah stampede rodeo. Is on, the way
Speaker 1: extreme bulls extreme bulls. Porter not just, bulls here. You
Speaker 1: go extreme bulls you.
Speaker 3: KNOW what.
Speaker 1: That means I do. OF course i do i. Am
Speaker 1: an extreme. Bowl there you go we learned yesterday that
Speaker 1: you used to ride small bulls. As, a small child?
Speaker 4: UH subjected to it i?
Speaker 1: Guess subjected. To it all right you Can find Tickets
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Speaker 1: Six, Locations, In, Utah Clearfield Murray, sandy american fork provo
Speaker 1: and all the Way Down, south in saint george.
Speaker 2: A cold and?
Speaker 1: Risk oh hell yes is this in honor of like
Speaker 1: the big bulls That the rodeo bros are going to
Speaker 1: be riding coming Up in the Five here, We go?
Speaker 3: Extreme?
Speaker 1: Bowls extreme bowls extreme is there a term for the
Speaker 1: mini bulls? THAT the kids ride. I think that's it
Speaker 1: i think it's, just The mini bulls Got mini bowls and?
Speaker 1: Extreme bowls? Coming? Up it is uh is? It officially
Speaker 1: rodeo season as our unofficial rodeo experts is that. It's,
Speaker 1: it's rodeo season yes.
Speaker 4: You, get around You, know fourth of, july, you Get
Speaker 4: around uh into June. And into, into august that's.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: That's rodeo season. Yeah the extreme bulls, just to be
Speaker 4: clear those. Are like all stars they're like they're from
Speaker 4: different stock, Contractors, If You will okay uh so they're
Speaker 4: coming all around the country to meet up with.
Speaker 1: The best bull riders so do. Do like scouts goalie the. Measurements,
Speaker 1: of the bulls yeah SO it's.
Speaker 4: Like the nba draft, these are animal athletes uh as
Speaker 4: you will hear them called.
Speaker 1: On on rodeo venues.
Speaker 4: Uh and yeah they get scored just as the, uh
Speaker 4: the bull riders the. Rough stock fellas do.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's, SOME somewhat, cruel correct i mean
Speaker 1: as somebody who loves animals, and loves bull riding how
Speaker 1: do you how do you ascertain your feelings? Between the
Speaker 1: yes dynamic.
Speaker 4: There are certain events that are a. Little UNEASY TO
Speaker 4: me but i i guess my justification for it is
Speaker 4: rodeo more so started with making events out of like
Speaker 4: ranching things, that, you're doing anyway, Right you're roping cattle
Speaker 4: you're you're, living off the land and you're also having
Speaker 4: to break this horse and so you can ride, it
Speaker 4: and you know use it as a tractor before. Tractors
Speaker 4: were a thing that's. Where rodeo was born now it's
Speaker 4: become more, Of A sport obviously but i guess that's
Speaker 4: my my justification for.
Speaker 1: It, is the, ROOTS okay fair enough i will see
Speaker 1: to you when it comes to. Topics such as this
Speaker 1: you HAVE the knowledge. That i do not we need
Speaker 1: to get. You, on, a bull. No dude not, Now.
Speaker 1: I'M forty seven bro i tore my meniscus. Golfing two
Speaker 1: years ago i'm not. Getting on a, Bowl fair, fair
Speaker 1: enough all right let's, get out Of here coming up
Speaker 1: ROUND Two, of the nba? Draft because, Why, not all
Speaker 1: right porter before we, get out of here you are
Speaker 1: in charge. Of the program tomorrow i'm taking a quickly
Speaker 1: weekend to see a BUDDY of mine that i haven't
Speaker 1: seen for. A number of years so what comes Our way.
Speaker 4: On a Friday show on a Friday, Edition of The
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Speaker 4: ROUND Two. Of The nba Draft chris camaranie a friday.
Speaker 4: Staple on the show WE'LL Get a little pga tour
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Speaker 4: lot of college football a lot of business of college,
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