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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I'd like to
welcome back to the show returning champion Wendy Rose Williams.
Speaker 2: Hey doing, Wendy, I'm doing great.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming back on the show.
I think the last time we spoke, I said, though
you had so much to talk about that we couldn't
we couldn't do it all in just one conversation, And
you did so many different things that this channel we're
going to be talking about specifically, all your this conversation,
we're going to talk about your channeling and everything that
we do in channeling. So my first question is what
was your life like before the channeling, before that world
opened up to you.
Speaker 2: Before the channeling? And I came to that quite reluctantly,
as I think a lot of individuals do. We have
to be pushed and shoved into the right direction at times.
It's quite interesting, how can we resist? But before the
spiritual awakening, before I agreed to channel, which came a
couple of years later, just conservative, everyday, average life, very
busy working mother and then a very busy single mother.
Our daughters were only six and eight when we divorced,
so there just was a lot going on. I was
not expecting the spiritual awakening that came up. I was
about six years later when my daughters were twelve and fourteen,
and I did not expect the channeling, the way the
channeling arose, and to find that there was a soul
contract that I'd agreed to do this, and I was going,
what surprise. But when you think about it, aren't some
of the things that are the most wonderful in life.
It might be a shock at first, but as we
settle into it, it can be like, oh my goodness,
what a privilege, what a pleasure? As I got further
into it. So what happened specifically, multiple people, wonderful healers, psychics, intuitives,
people that I hadn't known before were starting to come
up to me and to say, do you need help.
I know you've got a massive past life for a
least going on. I know you don't want to perhaps
accept or talk about who you were, but can I
help you I'm here to help you. And these were
people I barely knew some of them. It was literally
the first meeting with them. And what they were trying
to help me with was my past life as Mary Magdalen.
That was not a life I wanted to accept or
step into. And I'm a bit chagrined at this point
now that it's been about ten years, and then about
two years into that process of slowly accepting, yes, I
do have this past life, and this makes so much
more sense of so many things. And I was just
healing by leaps and bounds as I was stepping to
the plate and saying, yes, this is what this is
what happened. And then what started coming up was a
spiritual teacher I was working with at the time. She
asked me, as gently as possible, do you know that
you're meant to be a channel for three different ascended masters?
And I'm looking at her like, WHOA, that sounds like
the advanced curriculum. I do not ember signing up for that.
But again it made perfect sense. It's Mary Magdalen, It's
Yeshua Ben Joseph and its mother Mary, and I then, Alex,
I so wanted to do it. Right, It's like, this
is not some obscure river god who I would still
want to channel accurately and well, but I thought this
one just has a load to it for me of
really needing to get it right. So what I did
was I went and took formal channeling classes and I
went slowly with them. I took my time with it,
and it was about a two year process. Channeling classes
were nothing like I thought they would be. The training
was a big surprise because I thought it would be
kind of like a like like how doctors train other doctors.
I thought it would be kind of like the channeler
would show me one, coach me through one, have me
do one critique. One. Took about a year and a
half to get to that. Do you know what work
done for the first year year and a half? What
balancing my ego? And that makes perfect sense in hindsight,
because how else can you be a clear channel if
you haven't done your own work and haven't centered yourself right.
And what came up for me was atypical. A lot
of times people have a little bit perhaps too much
excitement and want the glory and want the publicity around
it perhaps and you know, speaking in generalities, here I
was the opposite. I was the shrinking violet from it.
And I didn't have quite enough healthy ego in the
sense of solar plexus being really balanced and having that
self confidence, that self respect for just to be natural.
And that's where we had to get me. That's where
we had to get me too and just balance those
ego lessons. And we released a whole bunch of past
lives along the way of why I was so ready
it's reticent to speak, from having been harmed or threatened,
or having had my family harmed or threatened for it before,
from channeling, from being a profit, from being an advisor
to you know, kings and wealthy individuals, and a lot
of that off with their head energy if they a
either didn't like the message. There was so much shoot
the messenger in the old days and just you know,
blaming when they didn't like the message or energy changes constantly,
and you can do your very best to forecast. Okay,
here's where I think you should put the troops for
what's going on in this battle. Here's what I think
you need to do to protect your lands and to
win this war. And when that prophecy wasn't always correct,
you know that that could be the end of things.
So there was just a lot of history of me
not wanting to speak up.
Speaker 1: So this was not a thing that all of a
sudden was going to thrust upon you. You were actively courting visibility,
courting this channel.
Speaker 2: It took me a while to get there. I tried
to deny it, I tried to shrink from it, and
that caused a lot of health problems. And I started
to realize, Okay, there's a correlation here, and when we
don't embrace the life that we're meant to be living,
and when we're not on our path, we very often
end up with health problems, financial problems, relationship problems, and
just have to really look at what do I need
to be doing differently? Is there something I'm avoiding here?
Is there something I'm doing too much of? Is are
there places I'm not stepping to the plate? And also
there was a lot of there used to be. I
think channeling has become so much more accepted, even the
last two years, the last five years, it's become so
much more accepted and understood because to be burned at
the stake for it, you know, we used to be
imprisoned for it, and because I have such a deep
active memory of my past lives, it was tripping me
up so and you have to remember that was then,
this is now. You've got to be mindful, you've got
to be in the moment and look at the reality
was no one was threatening me. I was just scaring myself.
Speaker 1: Generally, the way it works in life, we do enemy.
Speaker 2: Was it Roosevelt who said there's nothing to fear but
fear itself? And it's very true. We create that construct
of we know what's going to most terrify us. That's
why if you read a well done suspense book or
horror or thriller, you're filling in what scares you the most.
That's why it's always more effective and more terrifying than
whatever's put on the screen, at least for me, because
the screen is someone else's best depiction. But you know,
you don't you don't know what's going to really make
someone else have to deal with their own stuff. Right.
Speaker 1: It's the hitchcock The Hitchcockian way of doing things is
don't show the murder, how the murder happened behind a
closed door, and you imagine.
Speaker 2: Away, pan away because the person will fill in something
more terrifying, but.
Speaker 1: Much worse, much much worse than you could that could
ever be put on screen, no question about it. So
when it started to happen, what was your We'll be
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back to the show. How did you process it? Because
this is not an easy thing to process. When you
start hearing either voices in your head or channeling these
kind of energies through you, there has to be an
acclamation period as well.
Speaker 2: I'd imagine there definitely was, and I was fortunate to
take I was actually, and this is quite unusual. The
spiritual teacher was kind enough. She knew my budget was
super tight and to do the one on one classes
with her was beyond my budget, and she kindly let me.
I had a very close friend at the time who
was at the same point of being reticent to step
forward with her channeling abilities, and so we actually became
a group class of two for most of the classes. Yes,
we had to do some private private work too because
of you know, things that just came up that were
so personal. But that's where my river God little joke
came from. Because my friend was channeling Saint Francis, which
made perfect sense because she's an animal communicator and animal
healer and she was also channeling this obscure River God.
So the moment we found out who we don't both
agreed to channel, I just looked right at her and
I'm like, can I trade Jesus for the obscure river
God's pressure?
Speaker 1: That's pressure less pressure?
Speaker 2: And we just all burst out laughing. It's like how
soul contracts work. And it just makes such a perfect sense.
And it's so natural because yeshua is with Mary Magdalen
the Ascended Master, with Mother Mary the Ascended, they just
come in so naturally as a family, and you just
have to you just have to put aside, you know,
anything else and just say that this is family. I've
been part of this family. It's the most natural thing
in the world.
Speaker 1: And what and then when you finally got accustomed to
the whole channeling thing and and decided to go public
with it, what was the reaction of your friend's family,
people around you? It was?
Speaker 2: It was It was a very quiet thing. There wasn't
this big a public splash. It wasn't this big announcement.
I simply just started doing it naturally, because sometimes I
could feel them wanting to come in, and they have
such wisdom, they have such love, such compassion. The ascended
Masters are amazing and just sometimes so it wasn't like
go off and meditate for an hour and a half.
Make sure I can vibrate off the bid to be
able to give it would just pop right out of
my mouth. And Mother Mary, she has a particular energy
sign I can feel. I can tell the three of
them apart, of course we've each got a unique energy signature,
but because their vibration is so high. With Mother Mary especially,
I'll just get one single tear. We'll just roll down
from my right eye. And that's just that's just the
way she arrives with me and Mary Magdalen, I feel
her put this beautiful mantle like a cloak over me.
And Yeshuah just he has such a unique, gentle yet powerful,
approachable I just can't describe. His energy just makes me
smile from ear to ear. And I always know when
it's when it's him, So it just it just it
wasn't like a lion roaring at all. It was more
like a mouse squeaking. It was, you know, in very
very small, subtle ways. Eventually I did put it on
my website that I offered sessions with Magdalen, but because
I still had some inner healing work to do, a
very few people asked for them. And that was a
reflection of me because I wasn't quite I wasn't quite
comfortable and confident with it. And then it did get
to the point where people would just ask me and
in general conversation, you know, friends that knew, and they
would say, Wendy, you know it feels like Magdalen's here,
or could you please ask Magdalen and can you just
tell us right now, mean you know that person individually,
or there'd be a small group of us in person,
either face to face or phone to phone, and I
would tune in and do that. And then I did
start on a couple of a couple of zoom calls
on podcasts, so bit by bit, and I did have
one really funny, funny experience. I hosted a traditional radio
show for a while on kk and W eleven fifty am,
which is Seattle's alternative talk talk radio, and one particular
show that and I would always go through a pretty
big prep to get ready to be on air, and
I was channeling Magdalen. And when I channel Magdalene, I
don't I partially I raise my vibration, she lowers hers,
and I partially leave my body. Sometimes it's a fully
unconscious because there's different levels of channeling. But I would
then have to kind of wait on pins and needles
to hear the radio show because I didn't know what
I'd said because it was Magdalen. But this one certain day,
the topic was sacred sexuality, and I had this great friend,
was a PhD and just a great person who was
a sexologist, and she was going to be the topic
or it was going to be the guest that day.
And I got to the radio and she was down
in California. I'm in Seattle. I get to the radio
state and I could feel this weird. I'm like, why
is my throat so choked up? What is going on?
I knew Archangel Gabriel was with me. I knew Mary
Magdalen was with me. Well, they were duking it out
of who was going to speak that day. It was
hysterical because usually it was just Magdalen. But I do
work with Archangel Gabriel a lot, just being over communication
and So I'm sitting there with the producer and all
that equipment in a big radio station and he announces
me to go on air, and I'm like, I like
can't get anything out. So I'm like holding my script
up to him of what I was going to say first,
and he just seamlessly kind of stepped in and said
the first sentence or two, and I'm in my mind saying,
whatever's going on, work it out.
Speaker 1: Now, right, the show must go on, the show, the
show must go on.
Speaker 2: And I down like almost a whole huge water bottle
trying to like clear my throat. It was just the funniest.
And then I did speak with my spiritual teacher afterwards.
I said, what happened? She said, Oh, that's fascinating. It
was like I want to speak, I want to speak.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you because you were speaking about
energy and them coming into your body, and I've heard
this from other channels that I'm assuming that you had
to prepare the body to receive this kind of energy,
because if not, it's kind of like blowing a circuit,
like yes, couldn't handle the voltage. If you will you
So that year and a half, two years you were
kind of building.
Speaker 2: That is a fabulous question. You're exactly right, and that
was the work we were doing. We're working to upgrade
my circuitry. It's like being a little old thirty amp
generator and now you need to be a two hundred
amperage for the full house. Right, So that's exactly it.
So you need to be healing and releasing the things
that don't serve you anymore. You need to be working
on your health and your body, you know, in any
and all ways, and just preparing because you want to
bring through as pure in essence as you can, and
their vibration is simply much higher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, exactly. Well let me ask you, do
you think Mary Magdalen would like to come in and
talk a little bit.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, she's been planning it since you broached that possibility
when we last spoke a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: So absolutely, yes, right, great, I would love to have it.
And how do you get and for everybody watching, how
do you come in and how do you go out?
Speaker 2: Sure? So what you're going to see me? Do you're
going to see me? Just close my eyes, you're going
to see me. Just kind of settle down and ground
my energy and you're going to see me. Just ask her.
You may hear me muttering a little bit as I
ask her to come in and ask her to be
a clear channel. I will do it eyes closed, so
just so you can make that distinction to know it's
her speaking. She usually comes in and she'll simply say
I'm here, or this is Mary, or this is Magdalen.
She'll usually just say one of those three things. So
we'll see if that's what she does today. All right, thanks,
So let's get started surrounding my energy, centering myself, inviting
in a sended master Mary Magdalen. I am here. This
is Mary Alex. I'm so happy to speak with you.
What would you like to speak about?
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing this. Mary. My first
question to you is what is the biggest misconception about
your life that you would like to accect the record straight.
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Speaker 2: I so appreciate that question. Thank you. The biggest misconception
is was what my identity was. I was fortunate to
be a beloved daughter and sister and friend and wife
and aunt and sister in law in many ways. That
wonderful life for me was about the familial relationships. I
didn't really care very much to get involved with the politics.
We lived in very dangerous times in which a large
portion of our population was enslaved. But my role, simply
put was I became Yeshuah's wife and the mother to
two of his children. I also was married previously, and
I had known Yeshua since since childhood. So it was
a dream come true that we were able to marry
and to have some wonderful years together despite the harsh.
Speaker 1: Ending during during Jeshua's growth to become a walking master,
when did you actually begin to walk the path with
him in the spiritual journey that he was on? And
where did where did he go? Where did you go
during that essentially those thirty years that he was gone.
Speaker 2: From a fantastic question. Yes, I went to the I
was my My parents died when I was quite young,
and my older sister, Marta and my older brother Lazarus
Uh took over, took over raising me in our family home,
and we were we were neighbors to the Ben Joseph.
So mother Mary Jesus's mother, yes she was mother also
took over she's here at that single tier going down
the right eye. She took over helping also raise me
and mother me. I opened my Kundalini incredibly young in
that age at in that lifetime, and Mother Mary had
a relationship with the Temple of Isis at Phile in Egypt.
So the decision was made with my agreement and with
my older brother and sister agreeing that I should go
study at the Temple of Isis. So I was there
from the ages of about nine to nineteen. Yeshua and
I had already made our agreement that we planned to
marry when we were adults. When we had finished our training,
we both were very clear that we needed to part
and that he would need to go do extensive training.
He trained in India, he trained in Egypt. He trained
many many places to be able to do the magnificent
work that he did. We reunited when I was nineteen
and I was gathering It was my day. It was
my turn to go gather the water from the well
right outside the temple, and he was studying at one
of the Egyptian temples for men. So we had our
surprise reunion outside it that well. We had not seen
one another in ten years, and we agreed at that time,
yes we still want to marry, but we need to
wrap things up in a tidy way. So I gave
notice and was replaced at the Temple of Isis and
had to work my way home. And don't forget, we're
not just jumping on planes two thousand years ago. So
had to work my way home. He had to do
the same. And when we were both back home, things
went in a very different direction. But I'll stop at
that point. Is that clear? Is that making sense? Do
you give all questions to that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes all the sense in the world. What
was the What were the biggest challenges with your spiritual
journey as you walked it? Both for you and Jeshua.
Speaker 2: The biggest challenge for me was how to balance having
a normal life in such extraordinary times with such an
extraordinary mission. I was quite psychic, Yeshua certainly was, and
Mother Mary was incredible. So it really was the three
of us working to hold the energy for his mission
in many ways. Yes, the disciples, the apostles were important,
but don't forget they had most of them had full
time jobs. Most of them were working to eke out
a living as fishermen and had wives and children to support,
so they were not with Yeshuah nearly as regularly as
I was. And I do say thank you to the
Catholic Church and to the Pope for having officially named
me the thirteenth Apostle, because that is absolutely what I was.
Speaker 3: And I was with the man who became my husband
the most, and just you know, was picking up the
most of his teachings and his knowledge.
Speaker 2: He never forgot who he was. He came in, as
you'd use the term avatar I think nowadays, and came
in with just full knowledge of who he was as
a soul. But it was very difficult to balance because
we had this very grassroots walking ministry, very hand to
mouth in some ways of who would be able to
house us when we were on the road, who would
be able to to offer a meal, those sorts of things.
And that's where the misconception started coming up as to
my identity, because it was not it was not typical.
It was quite frowned upon for a young, supposedly single
woman to be traveling with a group of frankly quite
rough looking men. Showering was not always at the top
of our list, and it just you know, you got
bathed when you could. And for me to be on
the road with them in that traveling ministry, I had
the good fortune to have family money. He did not,
So who do you think was funding most of that ministry?
So that was another misperception is people didn't understand why
and how I could have money. Well, it was simply
from my parents. It's just that simple. It was nothing
to do with prostitution. And that's really quite a hurtful,
rude allegation to imply that that's the way that a
woman is earning her living. That is not Let's set
the record straight. Mary Magdalen was not a repentant poor.
That is incorrect information that was dumped on her as
part of blaming the divine feminine when the men worked
to muscle the women out after Yesha's crucifixion, after his death,
and anyone who's played hockey, you know what a good
hip check is, you know what a good elbow check is.
Wendy's Canadian so hockey co star right sometimes, And that's
what was done to the women. They were just shoved aside.
But they were defamed. So in my identity as yes
Sauer's wife. I'd agreed it needed to be kept secret.
It was from my own safety and protection. We knew
we lived in very dangerous times. We knew what might
be coming for him, for all of us. We knew
the risks we were taking. They were conscious, they were
done from love. These were decisions made from love. But
there are hard decisions.
Speaker 1: And you were privy to a lot of the information,
a lot of the story that we know of what
happened to Joshua and yourself. You and Joshua and Mary
all knew what was coming, and we did preparing.
Speaker 2: We did. We'll go back in time a little bit
to when I'm picture a nineteen year old who cannot
wait to marry the love of her life. Go back
to that moment coming back from the Temple of Isis,
and we've agreed, yes, he was a couple of years
older than me. What was he about four or five
years older than me? And we come back home and
we expect to be moving forward with planning our wedding,
and instead there's this incredible curveball that comes up. And
the Jewish priests were quite concerned that Yeshuah is becoming
too popular too quickly. They did not think they could
control him. And John the Baptist, his cousin, was a
very very capable voice of God also, I mean he
was channeling and doing some incredible things too. But realize
still we're on the fringe of society. We are high
in rank within our people, but our people are very,
very oppressed.
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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of it's the best word. Okay,
this is not a nice word, but it's the most
accurate word. There's a lot of collusion going on between
the Jewish priests and between the Roman oppressors. So instead
of marrying Yeshua Kurveball, I am forced to marry John
the Baptist, who I did not want to marry, who
did not want to marry me. And that was I
did not see that one coming. Evidently my psychic abilities
weren't working on that one. We're not supposed to know everything,
and I think, frankly, I would have considered running away.
So I did what I was told to do, and
it was the most joyless event you've ever seen. And
that wedding was an absolute spectacle. There were thousands of
people there, but again no joy in it for either
one of either the bride or the groom. And think
of that dynamic because John was quite aware of who
I loved, and Yeshua gets to watch me married off
to his cousin. It was quite quite an ordeal.
Speaker 1: And when you and Joshua were walking those those that
decade essentially or over a decade since the meeting, when
you were nineteen, Jeshua was still discovering. Was he already
discovering more and training more to do what he was
able to do or was he already Yeah, yes.
Speaker 2: No he didn't. He didn't travel extensively at that point anymore.
He was ready personally. I believe Yeshuva was the greatest
healer that's ever walked the earth. Said the person has
to be ready to heal, or it's or it's not
not going to work. So he was moving into his
ministry in many ways of healing people hands on. Let
me tell you how we did that. Because the crowds
became so large, people would walk or carry their loved
one there for days, So he would not stop until
the last person had been tended to. We ran this
triage like in a modern day emergency room. I was
in take, and I was always the first person that
they would see and talk to, and he was in
the back room. And what I was doing, honestly, was
healing many of the women and children in particular, because
just the way our society worked, the men wouldn't accept
the healing from a woman. So and I was also
getting the person prepared so that they could then go
in and have their time with him. And sometimes all
it would take was him to ask them a kind question,
say a kind word, lay a hand on them, put
an arm around them, because I had already done so
much of the work. Sometimes Mother Mary would be with
us too, and she and I would be doing the intake,
and we were actually doing kind of undercover healing work.
And then they would go in to see Yeshua and
he would do what he could for anyone and everyone.
But it was getting to the point where it was
depleting all of our energy right to the brink. Because
we were starting to draw crowds of more than hundreds
of people. The public speaking was different. That didn't deplete
his energy the same way. I think that was more
energizing for him to be able to give those wonderful
big talks. They were not without risk. And I can
tell you what I was doing at those was I
was watching the crowd energetically as well as physically, and
I was working to put protection around him. He of
course had his own rituals. But I can tell you
Wendy is still a little bit over vigilant today with
how she will work to protect people around her. And
we've had to do a lot of correcting with her
and say that was then, this is now. You don't
need to be doing that anymore because it depletes her energy.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Now, is there any what is the one
thing that you think that most people misunderstood about both
yourself and Joshua as they walk the earth, that there was.
Speaker 2: Some absolutely delightful everyday family life. I had my two
older siblings, as I said, I have re met them.
I mean this lifetime is Wendy, which is amazing. I
have re met both of my parents from that lifetime.
And the friend I mentioned who Wendy trained with for
the channeling, she was, Yes, she was youngest sister. So
we have met many people from that play run, so
to speak, from that timeline, from that lifetime, have re
met in this lifetime, and it was the family and
friends' piece, what we all come here for, of just
the happiest, just those happy relationships in a body.
Speaker 1: So there was because I imagine that from the scriptures
it was all business, and I imagine that it's there
was day to.
Speaker 2: Day exactly exactly. But the day to day, you know,
it's not as it's not as fun to report on.
It's not it's not as historical record to report on.
But I think that's I think that's the missing part.
Having those three children. I had a son by John
the Baptist. John had already been killed at that time,
and that was very incredibly traumatic and upsetting for all
of us of how quickly that happened, and that again
they tried to blame on Saloon. Salon was one of
my best friends for having done this tantalizing dance and
having asked for his head on a platter. What a
bunch of bs. That makes absolutely zero sense. It is
not what happened. Just John was getting too powerful, so
they killed him. I think that's simple explanation.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what they did at those times. That's
exactly what you may not know is they then brought me,
I'm his widow, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2: They bring me his head in a basket to try
and intimidate me and tell me to stand down, back down,
be quiet, just you know, be under their thumb. And
it was horrifying. It was absolutely terrifying. But luckily when
they were gone, my common sense came in and my
guides came in and said, the fact that they're trying
to scare you that much means you've got some power.
You just need to be very quiet about it. You
need to center yourself, be very clear who you are,
and just keep asking for your divine guidance. So the portraits,
the famous oil paintings by several masks of Mary Magdalen
showing her with a crystal skull that are trying to
imply she's practicing some sort of a cult, witchcraft or whatever.
That crystal skull is actually the head of John the Baptist,
and that is him kind of trying to you know,
go all in energetically. And you know I've passed on now, Magdalen, Yeshua,
let me help you. So that's you know, that's that's
what those oil paintings are really about. That I don't
think a lot of people know.
Speaker 1: So many people that I've spoken to in this show
we have near death experiences and spiritual awakenings. They always
credit Jesus or Jeshua to be there to help them,
to guide them through the process. Who was there for
Jeshua and guiding him during his lifetime.
Speaker 2: When he was passing on the cross or in jail?
Speaker 1: General in general and both actually like, who's who guided
through the process?
Speaker 2: Yes, in general.
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Speaker 2: Yeshua heard, he heard his father, he heard his divine father.
He heard God at a level I don't think anyone
ever had, and he came in to deliver a very beautiful,
very simple message. God is love. That was simply his ministry.
To just feel that love, accept that love, to be love,
to be loving and kind to one another. It's why
he healed animals right and left, not just people. And
I mean that really was was was his ministry. So
certainly that was going on his his physical parents, mother Mary,
and she was a virgin birth because she was able
to just like his grandmother, grandmother of Anna, We're talking
generations of women who knew how to raise their vibration
to such a high level that the divine spirit could
come in and could physically impregnate them. So it's kind
of like it does happen in nature. What is that
called hermaphrodite? I think seahorses do it when there's not
enough males or females, they can switch genders, so that
it's some the similar process fair but just could raise.
It's all about vibration. It's just all about the energy.
And so mother Mary, that is how she was the
virgin birth. But thankfully Joseph, you know, it was such
an amazing helpmate and protect her because she was shamed
because this is not okay for a young email to
be pregnant in those times and to have no husband.
This is this is a big deal. And so he
stepped in and played that beautiful role of being Jesus's father,
just like Jesus became my son John's father, because John,
of course did not remember his father he was, you know,
he was he was killed before before he was born.
So and then I did go on to have two
daughters with Yeshuah. So those three children were just absolutely
the light of my life and the light of his life,
but we needed to protect the identities.
Speaker 1: Why do you believe that this story has been suppressed
for so many years.
Speaker 2: Because there's beauty in it, because there's power in it,
because the simplicity in it of God being love and
us all being spark of the divine. This has nothing
to do with religion. Religion is man made. This is
nothing to do with being Jewish, Catholic, Seventh day Adventists.
Name any religion you want, it's nothing to do with that.
You don't need a middleman. I'm not seeing the churches
don't do some wonderful works they do, but including companionship
for people who are disenfranchised and lonely and stressed and
whatever else can be, you know, finding solace there. So
there's community, certainly. But I think just what Yaeshul has
said about what he accomplished and did any of us
can do. I think he was referring without using the
term the christ consciousness, it's simply an energy, and that
we could all do what he had done and more.
We just have to be able to set ourselves, balance
our divine, masculine and feminine, and be kind to ourselves
first of all, loving to ourselves forgive ourselves and then
just emanate that out, you know, be that to everyone
around you, and get rid of all these nonsense, artificial
divisions of countries and governments. And I don't like you
because of the color of your skin. I don't like
your accent, you know, the color of your eyes, just
ethnic purging. Oh my goodness, it has just gone on
for millennia, and we know that the most crime and
torture has happened in the name of the Church and
the crusades, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Very very true. Do you have does? By the way,
since I know Mary and Jeshua or with you, do
they have anything to say to our audience?
Speaker 2: Love one another, be very kind to yourself, and just
work to be in the present moment. And remember that
love is the antidote to fear. It is not courage.
Courage is the antidote to cowardice. Many people are feeling
fear and saying, oh gosh, I need to be more courageous,
I need to be braver, and then they're getting more
pugilistic based on fear. There's more, there's more fear factor
and so much of the land grabs that go on,
so much of the just the inhumanity of man against man.
It's based on fear. There are plenty of resources on
this gorgeous planet. There are plenty of ways for us
all to do well together. When everyone is helping one another.
And I don't just mean people helping people. Please remember
the animals. Please remember the trees, the water, the mountains,
you know, all the aspects of what we're here. We're
getting to live on a gracious mother Earth's body. Let's
treat her as the sentient, amazing being that she is,
and know that she's just got to balance her energy.
She's got to take care of herself. And we are
going to see more more the words English, more the
explosions when a volcano, the explosion, nic explosions, eruptions, Thank you.
We are going to see more tsunamis. We're going to
see climate change. Climate change must be addressed. It's amazing
how you had a vice president in the United States
in al Gore who got it so right, and everyone
made so much fun of him and just ignore word
and COVID was a big opportunity for Earth to start
to reverse some of the issues that were going on
with just too much driving, you know, too much use
of gasoline, too much, fossil fuels, fracking. I can't even
begin to understand what the purpose of fracking is. It's
not appropriate. So we've just got to live more gently,
with a lighter, lighter footprint, and just simply be more
humane to one another. And some challenging times are likely coming.
I do not say that to cause fear. I say
that to just help you center into yourself, look at
the present moment and say I'm okay, everything's fine. And also,
there is nothing wrong with doing some emergency type prepping.
But this is critical. It can't be out of fear
because that leads to these crazy stockpiling things that leads
to these cults, these just branch Davidians. As an example
that leads to those types of things. I'm talking about
stockpiling your basics of just do it kind of as
like a fun exercise, Like if you were going to
go be a boy scout or a girl scout and
do some backwards camping for a month that you've never
done before. If you didn't have your fresh clean water
in your house coming through your taps, what would you do?
Would it be good to have the life straw? Would
it be good to have that filter straw. Would it
be good to know how to boil water, purify water?
Do you know how to get the water out of
your hot water heater? Do you have a clean bucket?
You know? What can you do for emergency water supplies?
What can you do to grow some of your own food?
What can you do to have some first aid supplies?
What do you do for warmth if suddenly your power
is gone? I do want you to understand the grid
in the United States, the power grid, the physical electric grid.
It is quite fragile, and I don't think everyone understands that,
especially well. They just take electricity and heat and power
and lights totally for granted, it's quite fragile. The system
is not up to date. So what do you need
to do. Do you need to have a camp stove?
Do you need to have a generator or one of
those cool new power packs that are only about two
hundred dollars that you can plug some extension cords into.
You know, just just do things like that to be
as self sufficient as you can. But again, do it
from a place of joy of I'm taking care of myself,
taking care of my family. I'll be able to help
take care of some of my neighbors, because I do
think you will likely reach a time when some barter
may be needed. I do think there's a moment when
some banks may fail, some banks may go down. We're
already seeing a little bit of that. Would it behoove
you to have some cash on hand in small builts.
Would it behoove you to have a big bag of
rice and a big bag of beans. You know, if
you just need some emergency food and suddenly your fridge
and freezer is out. If you can't grow gardens on
your property because you're living in an apartment a condo,
or you don't have a green thumb, or you have
a heavily wooded lot, look into the hydroponic. Wendy's got
these neat little things called arrow garden, and she grows
so much lettuce and berbs right on her kitchen countertop.
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Speaker 2: And it's just such fresh food that the nutrition is fabulous,
it's no more expensive, and it's really fun and it's
a good thing for kids to learn too. How do
you grow food? Why are you not growing more food
on the tops of your hospitals, on the tops of
your schools, on the tops of your high rises. People
in the cities, especially who do not have a lot
of money, they need food stamps to pay for fresh
fruits and vegetables. They don't have transportation and they can't
get to that food. You need to be growing it
on your city skate rooftops for people. You need to
have bee keeping up there. They're starting to do that
in some places in New York City. But you just
need to get back to basics, because what if your
internet's down? Amazing, how that just humbles people? What if
your fancy dancy iPhone or Android wasn't working, how you
going to communicate? And again, I don't say this to
engender fear. I say this just to encourage some emergency
prepping from a place of joy and of providing for
yourself and your family and thinking about how you could
help those in your neighborhood and they'll have things to
help you too. And just there's going to be likely
some bartering going on for time periods. I'm not seeing
calamities happening everywhere in the world, but I think there
will be situations. We've already seen them recently where people
were restranded because their credit cards wouldn't work if they
were from from the Russian banking system because they got
locked out once they had done the invasion. So just think,
think old school. Do you know how to start a fire?
You know? Do you have a flint? Do you have
of you know, a way of just you have to
think of your local resources, because this is a very
different conversation for someone living, you know, really in a
dense city area versus someone living more out in the
suburbs or the country. And depending what country you live in,
how cold does it get, how hot does it get?
You know, what do you have available? There's a Wikipedia
that you can look up about the Great Ice Storm
of nineteen ninety eight, because that ice storm that was
in the northeast Canada and the US, it lasted for
over thirty days and for people in freezing temperatures to
have no power, no heat, it was a big deal
and it's very helpful to study that and again just
try and have it be as fun and exercise as
possible and then just let go, just say I've done
everything I can to prepare, I'm good. Now I'm just
going to be confident, and I'm just going to ride
wave and just just just project and think of the best,
you know, the best outcomes, and just just just plan
for that and let everything else go.
Speaker 1: Mary, thank you so much for this conversation and for
all the information and for setting the record trate on
so many things. I appreciate you so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you again, Thank you Likewise, this was my absolute pleasure,
and thank you for the work that you're doing. Alex.
It's very important and we're very pleased that you you
step to the plate so willingly. It's just it's just
a big deal with the communications that you do. So
we are with you all the time and we'll just
continue to help. So thank you. I'm going to just
bring Wendy beck in and just give her a second
to orient here.
Speaker 1: All great, how are you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm like, why did I put eyeliner on?
Just their vibration is so high. It just I can
just I can just feel the tears. It's like tears
of joy to get to to get to connect.
Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw that, I saw your tear
come down. It was pretty remarkable. Yeah, yeah, that one, that.
Speaker 2: One exactly, isn't that interesting. That's just that's her energy
signature from me. Yeah, you can't. You probably unless you're
unless you're clairvoyant, you probably can't see the mantle that
Magdalen had put over me. And yes she was was
standing and he had his hand on my left shoulder.
But some people who view this who are clairvoyant will
be able to see. So it'll be fun. It will
be fun for me to look at look at the
recording and see if I can see things around me.
Speaker 1: That's remarkable. It was a very interesting conversation, to say
the least.
Speaker 2: Was she especially feisty or was she next and clear she.
Speaker 1: Was slightly feisty, slightly slightly fight not too crazy, not
too not too perfect, but it was it was eye opening.
It was an eye open conversation to say.
Speaker 2: There had to be some backbone to be that individual
and to do that, to do that life. I think
you asked a question, and I'll just answer it as
me because I remember it clearly. You asked what was
happening as Yeshuah was going home? And that was a
conscious choice we all chose. We knew it was coming.
That's why we had the last supper. We hid out
at friends' houses to have that amazing last meal together.
They were at some risk by letting us all gather there.
They were standing guard outside the house, and we chose
to go to the garden of Gussemine because it was
such a beautiful place. We'd been there often, and as
was the custom, the men went to pray separately from
the women, and we knew he would be taken from there.
We chose not to resist. It was a conscious choice
made out of huge love. And he chose his cousin
Judas to betray him, and Judas didn't understand what was
going to come. And I want to clear the record
for Judas because that became an unfortunate expression. People will
even say, oh, he's such a Judas or she's such
a Judas. As a betrayer. Jesus needed it to happen.
He was choosing to go home in that humiliating, painful
public way to try and calm the waters for everyone
else so that there would not be huge riots, because
we were all fearing riots and that many thousands of
our people would have been killed. So we were just
trying to tamp that energy down. And he asked Judas
to point him out Judas was paid a small fee
for it and didn't know what would happen. A Maori
wouldn't have been able to do it. Judas committed suicide
as a result of just the guilt shame over. I
want to a sage that I want to let that go.
Dude has played a role that was needed. If it
hadn't been him, it would have been someone else, and
he played his part right. He did it right. But
it was hard. And when we went to the cross
mother Mary was on my right as my mother in law.
I was on the left, and we were on our
knees at his feet. It was the hardest thing I've
ever done in my life, in any of my lifetimes.
We were sending him energy and we had a lot
of other people that loved him. We asked him to
stay away because it was a great public risk to
be there. We asked the men especially to stay away
because we thought if they even twitch, they're going to
be killed. They're going to have more up on the crosses.
So Mary and I were just trying to be not
threatening and we were just sending love, and we were also,
I'll be honest, we were both arguing with him a
bit and saying, this doesn't be a need to be
along painful spectacle. It typically takes about three days to
die on the cross. We were pushing him home. We
were shoving him home.
Speaker 4: We were inviting him home, and we were doing the dance,
he and I and we just lead the way up
and he didn't obviously have the strength and the energy
to do it, and I was just leading him up.
Speaker 2: I definitely got to the point of no return because
I didn't want to come back, and mother Mary pulled
me back and rightly said, Mary, you've got children. You
need to attend to your children. This is not your
time to go. She was the most amazing beacon of strength.
I cannot imagine how a mother can go through that
to see their whole love oldest son be crucified. But
as I said, it was about a day versus about
three days, and there were so many people sending us
love and sending us energy, and that's how we did it.
And we walked him home. He insisted on going home
fully conscious, because we were saying to him, dude, just
leave your body.
Speaker 5: You know how we all know how to pop right
out of our body. Come on, And He's like, no,
I Am. He was doing the lamb of God. He
was asking his father to forgive them, for they know
not what they do. He wanted to do things. It
was his death, and he chose, he chose how to
do it. But it was obviously very, very difficult, and
we then had to run for our lives, which we did.
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Speaker 2: So we escaped. His uncle was wealthy and had ships,
and we escaped first up to Egypt. We went and
sheltered at the same temple of Isis at phil Hay,
and we're taken in there and then went from there.
I was close to delivering, so it was heavily pregnant,
and we made our final move to the south of France,
and a little cottage had been found for me and
prepared for me, and that's where I that's where I
lived out my life and had my two I had
my son. Sadly, my son by John the Baptist had
become estranged and he was not in my life, so
but I did have my daughter, and then I gave
birth to my youngest so the oldest son by John
the Baptist, and the two youngest daughters, middle child and
youngest daughter by Yeshua.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, it's amazing, it's really remarkable. Wendy. Where
can people find out more about you and the work
that you're doing.
Speaker 2: At my website. My website is Wendy Rosewilliams dot com
and please you're so welcome to request a complimentary fifteen
minute phone appointment there see if I maybe have service
to you. I'd love to speak with people one on one.
Can also check out my podcast I co host with
Greg Kirk and it's called Waking Up Spiritually, and certainly
via the podcast apps or the YouTube, but you can
also go to Waking Upspiritually dot com and it's a
visual it's a visual podcast like yours, Alex. We choose
to do it with powerpoints, so it's just our way
of presenting the information that comes in. Also via Amazon
and Audible. Just look for my full name there, Wendy.
Speaker 1: Williams, Wennie, thank you so much for coming on the
show again. I appreciate you and the work that you're doing,
and thank you for sharing sharing this with us today.
Speaker 2: I appreciate my absolute pleasure and I just want people
to know it's all going to be okay, we're all
going to be We're all going to be fine. Certainly,
some people are passing on all the time. They're going
to be There's so many angels here. There's so many
unemployed and underemployed angels because people are not asking for
help because they don't believe in it, they don't think
they can get it, they don't think they can deserve it.
Just be willing to ask for that divine assistance from
the angels and watch your life change. It is amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you again, Wendy, I appreciate you, Thank you, thank
you for spending this sacred time with us today. If
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