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<v Speaker 1>I have an email from a woman and she has

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<v Speaker 1>four separate stories. I really enjoyed reading this. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you guys enjoy it all. Right, here we go, I

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<v Speaker 1>may put my good glasses on here now I can

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<v Speaker 1>see the screen. I was born and raised in southern Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>and I spent a lot of time in the Cascade

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<v Speaker 1>Mountains growing up. Fishing, hiking, hunting, exploring. You name the activity,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did it. My father spent forty years working

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<v Speaker 1>in the timber industry, many of those as a log

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<v Speaker 1>truck driver. It wasn't out of the ordinary for me

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<v Speaker 1>to ride along with him in the truck for the day,

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<v Speaker 1>or for my mom and I to join him occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>when he had to camp out in the woods because

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<v Speaker 1>of work. I was a preteen at the time time

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom and I joined my dad for a

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<v Speaker 1>few days while he was working in the Marble Mountains.

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<v Speaker 1>This encounter took place there. It was thirty five miles

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<v Speaker 1>out of Fort Jones, California, with my dad working as

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<v Speaker 1>a log truck driver. Anyone who knows anything about that

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<v Speaker 1>knows it isn't unusual for those guys to be in

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<v Speaker 1>bed by seven pm and get up at three am

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<v Speaker 1>or earlier to start the day. At around midnight, my

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<v Speaker 1>parents were asleep and I was reading a book with

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<v Speaker 1>my reading light and the camp trailer. What took place

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<v Speaker 1>next changed me for the rest of my life. I

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<v Speaker 1>was reading my book and I got a whiff of

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<v Speaker 1>the famous foul smell everyone who has had an encounter

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<v Speaker 1>knows about. The next thing I noticed was that the

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<v Speaker 1>frogs and the crickets had gone dead silent. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>there was a predator of some sort in the area,

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<v Speaker 1>and I decided to shut off my light and take

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<v Speaker 1>a look out the window to see what I could see.

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<v Speaker 1>I got extremely lucky that night, as it was a

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<v Speaker 1>full moon and it lit the woods up like daytime.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in the era of the movie Harry

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<v Speaker 1>and the Hendersons, and this got me obsessed with Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>at a very young age. And when I picked out

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<v Speaker 1>the window, I knew exactly what I was looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty feet away, I saw the outline of a bipedal creature.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just sitting back observing, but I could tell

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<v Speaker 1>that he had places to be. I'm sure he was

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<v Speaker 1>making a judgment on if it was safe to go

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<v Speaker 1>on about his business. He was carrying a dead deer,

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<v Speaker 1>probably to feed himself and his family, and I watched

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<v Speaker 1>him cross the clearing behind our camp trailer, and he

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<v Speaker 1>crossed the logging road and then he strided up a

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<v Speaker 1>steep bank like it was nothing. I didn't mention anything

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<v Speaker 1>to my parents because my dad doesn't believe in bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>But the next morning I took my dad's tape measure

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<v Speaker 1>and I measured from the ground to a branch on

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<v Speaker 1>the tree where I saw his head roughly. I granted

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not an expert by any means, but I guesstimated

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<v Speaker 1>him to be probably eight feet tall. There were some

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<v Speaker 1>footprints and they were eighteen inches long and seven inches wide.

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<v Speaker 1>Later that day, one of his coworkers and good friends

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<v Speaker 1>showed up and said they found giant footprints at their

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<v Speaker 1>camp site. They also found the fur of a deer

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<v Speaker 1>that looked like it had been peeled right off the meat,

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<v Speaker 1>just like you would tear a paper towel in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, my dad didn't have to work, so

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<v Speaker 1>he and my mom and I joined some of his

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<v Speaker 1>coworkers and their families at the nearby lake three miles

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<v Speaker 1>up the road. There was a group of maybe twenty people,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone was fishing and visiting and hanging out and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying the day, and nothing happened until twilight. This is

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<v Speaker 1>when I feel like we crossed over into their territory

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<v Speaker 1>by the lake. As the sun was going down, we

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<v Speaker 1>all started hearing tree knocks and getting closer and closer

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<v Speaker 1>from all directions. And after that came the growls and

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<v Speaker 1>the whoops and the house. And when that didn't scare

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<v Speaker 1>us off, that's when the rocks started being tossed in

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<v Speaker 1>our direction. I'm talking big, old, many boulders. One actually

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<v Speaker 1>almost hit another kid who was around the same age

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<v Speaker 1>as me, and it only missed him by maybe six inches.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when everyone decided to load up their stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>get the hell out of there. My mom and I

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<v Speaker 1>left the next day, while my dad and his co

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<v Speaker 1>workers had to stay up there another week or so.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad said no one had any other encounters, but

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the time they were there, no one

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<v Speaker 1>went back to the lake. The only thing the workers

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<v Speaker 1>reported was what they found, more footprints and heard more

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<v Speaker 1>wood knocking and howling in whoop sounds Story number two.

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<v Speaker 1>It was two thousand and nine and I was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years old, living in Applegate, Oregon. Ironically enough, I

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<v Speaker 1>was on my way to see the famous Bigfoot Trap.

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<v Speaker 1>I had known about it since I was kid, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was technically a local. I just never had the

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<v Speaker 1>curiosity to check it out. But that day I was bored,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the day off, and there was nothing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>so naturally, I set off on an adventure in the outdoors.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bigfoot Trap, located in Applegate, is kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>icon around these parts. It was built in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventies by a research team. Obviously, they weren't successful in

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<v Speaker 1>trapping a bigfoot in it. You can easily google the

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<v Speaker 1>directions on how to get there or see pictures of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But to my knowledge, because it had become such a

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<v Speaker 1>tourist attraction and was becoming dilapidated, the Forest Service actually

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<v Speaker 1>decided to restore it. So hey, I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool in itself. I reached the trap and did

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<v Speaker 1>my investigation, and I checked it out, and I crawled

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<v Speaker 1>inside it, and I looked around, and there wasn't anything

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<v Speaker 1>super special about it. It was just a wooden box

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<v Speaker 1>with a green grated slide mechanism for a door. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just a normal day in the forest with all

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<v Speaker 1>the forest critters making their noises. Birds were chirping away

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<v Speaker 1>and frogs were croaking. And when I knew there was

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour and a half left of daylight, I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to head back to my car because it would

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<v Speaker 1>take about that long to get back to the Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Heart Tish Picnic Heart Tish Picnic and parking area. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>I had trouble getting one out. When I turned around,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I was no longer alone. At first, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it might have been other hikers, but this was

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<v Speaker 1>a day in the middle of the week, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't seen other human beings the entire four hours that

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<v Speaker 1>I had been there. Everyone has heard that Bigfoot can

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<v Speaker 1>malk other animals. Well, I can tell you that is

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent accurate. I heard whistling, but my train

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<v Speaker 1>tears knew it wasn't. They weren't close enough to me

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<v Speaker 1>to smell yet, but the complete silence was enough to

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<v Speaker 1>alert me to what I knew was present and watching me.

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<v Speaker 1>I picked up a stick and hit the tree next

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<v Speaker 1>to me three times, and it didn't surprise me when

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<v Speaker 1>I got a response. And after that, I said loud

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<v Speaker 1>enough for them to hear. All right, guys, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're there, I'm not a threat, and I'm headed out

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<v Speaker 1>of here anyway. I heard two more whistles behind me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I started to walk out of there at a slow,

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<v Speaker 1>steady pace. I was afraid of going too fast because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to trigger their predator instinct to chase me.

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<v Speaker 1>As I walked along, I heard branches snapping directly behind

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<v Speaker 1>me and off to the side, and I knew there

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<v Speaker 1>was more than one. I proceeded further and I heard

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<v Speaker 1>a third one come up on the other side. And

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<v Speaker 1>the more of them that I hurt surround me, the

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<v Speaker 1>more freaked out I got. But I just kept moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew my little nigh one millimeter wouldn't protect

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<v Speaker 1>me if the situation were to go south. The forest

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<v Speaker 1>going through here isn't super dense, and you can catch

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<v Speaker 1>occsual things through the trees. I'm pretty sure it was

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<v Speaker 1>comical to watch me walking and trying to remain calm

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<v Speaker 1>as I talked to them and tried to see them

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<v Speaker 1>as non threatening as possible. I think they have a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of humor and like to mess with us humans

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<v Speaker 1>very often. And now eleven years later, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>is what this trio was doing. I was scared, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was nervous, but I didn't feel threatened. I never

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<v Speaker 1>got to see the one behind me, but I had

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling that he was the pack leader, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a peak of the two on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of me, though. The first one was to my right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looked younger than the others, and the sounds

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<v Speaker 1>it made were quieter by comparison. I got a mischievous

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<v Speaker 1>vibe from this creature. It wasn't more than six feet tall,

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<v Speaker 1>and it had wide shoulders, and it looked around four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds. Maybe that was a small female. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the second one on my left a whole lot better.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was trying to hide anyway, because

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<v Speaker 1>he was a good sized one and he was not

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<v Speaker 1>shy in the slightest. He was only maybe twenty yards

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<v Speaker 1>from me of that, and I stopped, and I turned

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<v Speaker 1>my head and I said to him, easy, big guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I see you, and I respect you. He and I

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<v Speaker 1>made eye contact, and I gazed at him for roughly

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds. His hair was black, and he was at

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<v Speaker 1>least seven and a half feet tall and four feet

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<v Speaker 1>at the shoulders, and I'm guessing he was seven to

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred pounds, and while we were doing a stare down,

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<v Speaker 1>he stepped forward to let me know that he was

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<v Speaker 1>not afraid of me, and in response, I repeated my

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<v Speaker 1>words and continued to walk toward my car. They stayed

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<v Speaker 1>with me for probably another five minutes and proceeded with

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<v Speaker 1>their business once they figured out I was not a threat.

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<v Speaker 1>I thank them for the escort and protection, whether that

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<v Speaker 1>is what they were doing or not. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>was only five hundred feet from my car, they disappeared

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<v Speaker 1>back into the forest. I kind of regret not being

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<v Speaker 1>able to see the third one, but I knew he

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<v Speaker 1>was behind me. I was doing everything I could to

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<v Speaker 1>not make them mad or put them on alert, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I didn't turn around to look at him.

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<v Speaker 1>Something told me that would have been a mistake. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is her story number three. It was October of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen and hunting season was in I was thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years old at the time, and the location was in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the woods in no man's land out

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<v Speaker 1>of Prospect, Oregon. I was by myself and going to

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<v Speaker 1>use my usual hunting spot that my family and close

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<v Speaker 1>friends had frequented for three generations. It was early in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, between five and six AM, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting up in a tree stand looking for wildlife. I

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<v Speaker 1>was armed with a Remington three to eight with a scope.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on my past experiences, I was alert to any

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<v Speaker 1>sign of bigfoot that might be in the area. But

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<v Speaker 1>as I spent the day up in the stand, scanning

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<v Speaker 1>the area and looking for any sign of game, without

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<v Speaker 1>any luck. I was comforted by the sounds of the

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<v Speaker 1>birds and the other animals, knowing if something dangerous were nearby,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have gone quiet. By now, night was coming

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<v Speaker 1>upon me quickly, and I decided to head back to camp,

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<v Speaker 1>which was less than a half a mile away, And

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<v Speaker 1>when I got there, I found nothing out of the ordinary,

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<v Speaker 1>and still no sign of any predators or bigfoot. The

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<v Speaker 1>first night was quiet, and I heard some wood knocking

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<v Speaker 1>and chirps, so I knew they were nearby, But the

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<v Speaker 1>night went smoothly and without any problems. On day two,

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<v Speaker 1>I went back to my tree stand and had a

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<v Speaker 1>day like the one before, with little on both the

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<v Speaker 1>they were just watching me, and the night went smoothly.

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<v Speaker 1>and they were constant, like every ten minutes, and they

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<v Speaker 1>and told them to stop, and I reminded them that

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<v Speaker 1>they had destroyed all my gear besides my sleeping bag,

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<v Speaker 1>them and telling them to back off. They got silent

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<v Speaker 1>later they started throwing rocks again. They were even closer

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<v Speaker 1>than before, and I knew I was surrounded, and I

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<v Speaker 1>and chatter that vibrated through my whole body, and I

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<v Speaker 1>be heading out at first light. They went silent again,

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<v Speaker 1>just long enough for me to fall back asleep one

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<v Speaker 1>more time, and then my blaring alarm clock woke me

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<v Speaker 1>up just as the sun was shining its first rays

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<v Speaker 1>into the dark sky, and as I fumbled to turn

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<v Speaker 1>it off, I heard the thudding of huge, pounding footsteps

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<v Speaker 1>coming right at me, and I silenced the alarm, and

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<v Speaker 1>at me. Now I might be exaggerating because of how

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<v Speaker 1>scared I was, but this one was ten feet tall

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<v Speaker 1>or taller, and his shoulders were five or six feet wide,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was easily over eight hundred pounds. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a big one. I felt the whole forests vibrate as

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<v Speaker 1>he came at me, and I fired two warning shots

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<v Speaker 1>to get him to stop, but he didn't. I grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>my rifle and I started heading down the hill to

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<v Speaker 1>my car, and it was parked on the main road

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<v Speaker 1>and at least a mile away, and I waddled as

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<v Speaker 1>fast as I could go, because, to be honest, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a fat woman, and my ass doesn't run. You go, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>She's a fat woman and she ain't running. The tree

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<v Speaker 1>branches were cracking and snapping as this guy mowed down

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<v Speaker 1>through the forest behind me, pushing and scaring me out.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew he was going slow, because he could have

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to. When I was halfway to my car,

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<v Speaker 1>I had had enough and I stopped and I turned around,

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<v Speaker 1>and amazingly enough, he stopped too. I pulled my rifle

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<v Speaker 1>out and had him in the crosshairs of my scope,

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<v Speaker 1>right dead on his forehead in the center. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a clear shot, and I looked into his eyes and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw nothing but rage and anger that I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I wasn't a threat to him and his

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<v Speaker 1>family by any means. I was just about to pull

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<v Speaker 1>the trigger when I heard another boom coming from my side,

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<v Speaker 1>and I stole a horrified look to my right and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw another one, just as angry and pissed off

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<v Speaker 1>as the other guy, and he was coming right at me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was a goner for sure. I did

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing I could do. I strapped my rifle

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<v Speaker 1>back on my shoulder and I started running as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as I could go. And all I could hear was

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<v Speaker 1>the stomps of their thunderous steps and the shape of

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<v Speaker 1>the damn earth under my feet. It felt like an eternity.

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<v Speaker 1>But I finally reached my car. I couldn't open the

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<v Speaker 1>door fast enough, and as I got inside, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>both of them at the edge of the tree line.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when the loudest, must fearsome growl and howl

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<v Speaker 1>i've ever heard reverberated through the entire forest, and I

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<v Speaker 1>swear it made my heart skip a beat and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I was having a minor heart attack. They

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<v Speaker 1>let me live that day, even though they could have

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<v Speaker 1>easily taken me out in nothing flat. I've been going

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<v Speaker 1>to this hunting spot every year my entire life, and

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<v Speaker 1>I never saw signs of Bigfoot being in that area.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends and family didn't report anything strange either, And

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<v Speaker 1>over the last decade or more, the wildlife has changed.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I mean by that is the last successful

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<v Speaker 1>hunting trip any of us had was over ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not seen any type of game animal in this

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<v Speaker 1>spot for you years, I haven't even seen a bear

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<v Speaker 1>or a cougar, and the only signs of wildlife for

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<v Speaker 1>the birds and the small rodents and in by nearly

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years of going here, this was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I had ever noticed signs of bigfoot, and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think that they must have put a claim on

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<v Speaker 1>this area as their territory. Recently, I haven't been back

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<v Speaker 1>to that spot, nor will I ever go back. This

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<v Speaker 1>encounter is scared to live in daylights out of me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sharing my encounter to scare people. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sharing it because my story should add some first hand

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<v Speaker 1>insight that bigfoot are not little puppies and kittens. They

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<v Speaker 1>can be aggressive and territorial, and if they feel the need,

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<v Speaker 1>they can take a human out with no problem. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm not the only person on Earth who has

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<v Speaker 1>had terrifying encounters like this, but I'm still afraid to

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<v Speaker 1>reveal what happened to me to anyone. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>warn people about spending time out here, but knowing they

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<v Speaker 1>won't believe me, I won't bother and now here is

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<v Speaker 1>her fourth and last story. As if this hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>exciting enough so far. She's got another story, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Let's do this. I lived in central Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>for several years and I frequented a cemetery in the

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<v Speaker 1>local area, Teresa's Cemetery. You had to hide down a

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<v Speaker 1>driveway about a mile. The cemetery closes at dusk, and

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<v Speaker 1>the cops patrol it because of its reputation and the

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<v Speaker 1>rituals that have taken place here. I've had several types

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<v Speaker 1>of encounters in this cemetery, but those are stories for

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<v Speaker 1>another time, So for now, I want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about the bigfoot ghost. The first time I saw this

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<v Speaker 1>ghost was on my first visit to the cemetery. It

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<v Speaker 1>was nighttime and I was there with three friends who

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<v Speaker 1>had each grown up visiting and frequenting the cemetery on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular basis. I was walking around and shining my

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<v Speaker 1>flashlight and reading the headstones, and I could hear footsteps

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<v Speaker 1>of a large creature nearby in the woods. I shined

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<v Speaker 1>my flashlight into the trees, but I didn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends and I were spread apart throughout the cemetery

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<v Speaker 1>and not really close to each other, and none of

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<v Speaker 1>them were big enough to make that much noise. I

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<v Speaker 1>continued to walk around and read the headstones, and I

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<v Speaker 1>could hear this bigfoot tromping through the trees. I could

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<v Speaker 1>hear it breathing heavy and staying in the shadows, and

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<v Speaker 1>it followed me. I kept shining my flashlight through the

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<v Speaker 1>trees to see if I could catch a glimpse of him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I finally did. I saw a ghostly apparition with black,

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<v Speaker 1>hollowed out eyes resembling a bigfoot. One of the ladies

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<v Speaker 1>that I was with she saw it too and took off,

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<v Speaker 1>screaming and running toward the car, and her reaction made

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of us decide to call it a night

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<v Speaker 1>and get out of there. The second time I encountered

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<v Speaker 1>this bigfoot ghost, I went to the cemetery on Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>night to do a Wiji board reading with three sisters

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<v Speaker 1>who were witches. And as we were doing the reading,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a recorder going as well as my digital camera,

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<v Speaker 1>taking continuous pictures and set up to motion record, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could hear the bigfoot ghosts walking around in the

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<v Speaker 1>tree line, and I could hear his heavy breathing again,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't see him. I was leaving and walking

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<v Speaker 1>down the highway, and I could hear him walking off

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<v Speaker 1>to the side of me. And when I got home

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<v Speaker 1>that night, I reviewed the audio recordings and the images

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<v Speaker 1>that my camera got. The audio recorded some grunts, bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>like chatter, and a couple of howls. My camera caught

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<v Speaker 1>the ghost apparition in three different shots. Unfortunately, though, when

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<v Speaker 1>I left Ohio, I had to leave a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>personal items at my ex's house. That was seven years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure my things, including my ghostly images, had

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<v Speaker 1>been thrown away by now. The third time I encountered

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<v Speaker 1>the Bigfoot ghost was right before I left the state.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there doing my standard thing of reading the

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<v Speaker 1>headstones and seeing if I could catch anything on audio,

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<v Speaker 1>pictures or video. But I could tell there was something

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<v Speaker 1>different in the air. It was an ominous and dark

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that I had never experienced there before. And after

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<v Speaker 1>I had been there for about an hour, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a disturbing shadow figure that came right at me. It

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<v Speaker 1>chased me out of the cemetery, but just as strange,

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<v Speaker 1>after I crossed a certain point, it was like the

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<v Speaker 1>shadow had hit a brick wall and couldn't go any further.

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<v Speaker 1>It let out a horrible scream, like a ghostly bansheet,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I turned to see it, I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot ghost right behind me, and I froze and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe what I was seeing. The Bigfoot ghost growled

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<v Speaker 1>at the shadow figure and the thing disappeared. I stammered

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<v Speaker 1>a shaky thank you to the Bigfoot ghost, and after

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<v Speaker 1>observing me for a few seconds, it turned around and

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<v Speaker 1>disappeared into the trees. I looked back in disbelief in

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<v Speaker 1>the direction the shadow figure had disappeared, and then looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the trees with a bigfoot faded away, knowing I

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<v Speaker 1>would never be able to tell anyone what I had seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Mysterious events have plagued my entire life, and as usual,

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<v Speaker 1>I had in my experience that night to the long

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<v Speaker 1>list of things that no one will ever believe they

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<v Speaker 1>never do. Yes, I will agree with that last sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been plagued your entire life with mysterious stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>mainly things with Bigfoot and the Luigi Borg stuff. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you a witch? I'm just curious these stories are I

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<v Speaker 1>think I got these back in twenty twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe twenty twenty maybe even twenty twenty two. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just now getting to them. She actually sent them in

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<v Speaker 1>four separate emails, and as I was digging through emails,

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<v Speaker 1>they happen to all still be one right after another.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad of that, because when people do that and

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<v Speaker 1>they add to their story three or four days later,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been twenty emails jump in between them, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for stories, I'll miss them. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>lucky on this one anyway. I thought this was exciting. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>she's had bigfoot experiences all her life. How do y'all

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I can't even see a broken twig to

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<v Speaker 1>where I could even fake it and say, yeah, bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>did that. I mean, I never see anything. I just

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<v Speaker 1>see normal stuff in the woods, turtles and snakes and

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<v Speaker 1>squirrels and raccoons and deer, and never a bigfoot. I

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<v Speaker 1>never see a bigfoot. I guess I'm just jinxed. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to the writer for sending this story. It

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<v Speaker 1>was wonderful. That's going to do it for this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you all enjoyed it and we'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>on the next one. Thanks again,
