1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: How do you be faithful with your finances in a 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,439 time where it's difficult to find the faithful in finance. 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,480 Oh and by the way, about that implantable tech President 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,440 Trump wants to stick into our heads. Zach Abraham joins this, 5 00:00:17,559 --> 00:00:21,000 Chief Investmentficer Bolwer Capital Management, courtesy of God Almighty. 6 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:27,039 Speaker 2: But Todd Herman show is one percent disapproved by big 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:34,880 pharma technocrats in tyrans everywhere from the high mountains of 8 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:42,840 Free America. Here's the Emerald City exime, Todd Herman. 9 00:00:47,439 --> 00:00:50,039 Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made, and these 10 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:52,799 are the times through which God has decided we shall live. 11 00:00:53,359 --> 00:00:55,840 Joining me now, my friend and brother, Chief Investment Officer, 12 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,359 Bulwark Capital Management, Zach Abraham, Zach, good to have you here, 13 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:00,399 Thanks for coming a man. 14 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: Good to be here. 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,079 Speaker 2: Man. 16 00:01:02,159 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: I know shortage of things to discuss, right. 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,719 Speaker 1: Very much so, very much so. And I mentioned this 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,680 yesterday to people and I couldn't believe the response to me, 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,959 we get cool responses. But I mentioned that I had 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,760 this stuff up on my substack and it's President Trump 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:25,480 has signed an executive order to accelerate six G and 22 00:01:25,599 --> 00:01:30,319 this is purposely demonstrably being used by World Economic form 23 00:01:30,359 --> 00:01:33,319 types who have said the cell phone is going away, 24 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:36,640 that stuff is all going to be implanted in our 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,319 bodies at a time where Larry Fink says that from 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,439 the day you're born, every financial act to undertake will 27 00:01:44,439 --> 00:01:48,519 be tied to a single blockchain forever, and that will 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,040 be tied, of course to your social activities and what 29 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,799 you say. So my question to you is a guy 30 00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:57,599 who works in finance, how do we have faithful finance 31 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,959 with this stuff going around us that that sort of 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,319 smells very mark of the beast ish to me. 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:10,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, great question. Uh man. There's so many 34 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,400 different ways to look at this. 35 00:02:11,439 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, you can look at it just 36 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,120 from a pure economic side, but that's pretty dark and 37 00:02:17,199 --> 00:02:18,479 dystopian because. 38 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,439 Speaker 1: Well let's start there, because that's where they're at. 39 00:02:21,439 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: So technology is going to technology, and forward is forward 40 00:02:26,039 --> 00:02:28,800 to these people. And you see it in the way 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,000 that they're pursuing AI, meaning you know, you get into 42 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,400 these scenarios where a lot of the dynamics and a 43 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,639 lot of the cultural nuances that make America so great 44 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,000 and also in certain scenarios hurt us, right, And I 45 00:02:43,319 --> 00:02:48,039 think to look at that when you combine like you know, 46 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,000 American idealism or exceptionalism, Americans go get them culture yea. 47 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,639 And then and then throw that into the competitive world 48 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,639 of media, right, look at how it's dc Look look 49 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,039 at how it's degenerated media. One of the biggest, you know, 50 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,599 degenerating forces of media has been clickbait culture, right, which 51 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,560 is all driven by the competitiveness. And you're not gonna 52 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,960 find anybody that's going into competition in free markets. And 53 00:03:12,039 --> 00:03:14,120 I am I'm just saying there are, there are things, 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,879 and it should come as no surprise where we move 55 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:19,199 into these places in thidy or as a country. 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: And the way that we do things is not going 57 00:03:21,879 --> 00:03:23,240 to help us. It's going to be hindrance. 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 4: And I and I think that the technology situation is 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,520 a perfect example. We are we are leaping before we look, 60 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:33,919 and we're doing that in AI as well. So on 61 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,919 the flip side of that, through the lens of a 62 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:44,080 Christian man, as scary and as un uh umbooying is news. 63 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,479 Speaker 3: Like that is. 64 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: Part of me sits here and goes it shouldn't be 65 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,199 we know it's going this way right, like like we 66 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:53,400 know it's going. 67 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: This because God told us it would go this way. 68 00:03:55,879 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: Right And so it's always I've always struggled with that 69 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:02,319 part of. 70 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:05,159 Speaker 3: I'm forgetting other really cool. 71 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: I'm forgetting the really cool, the really cool Christian term 72 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,560 for the study the study of end times. 73 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:15,159 Speaker 3: It's not anyway whatever. 74 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:17,439 Speaker 1: Also looked up and yell it to us. 75 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I want to say, like hermeneutics. I know 76 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,360 that's not you know that sounds term it but anyway, 77 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:28,240 So partying sits there and goes, well, why are we 78 00:04:28,319 --> 00:04:30,800 pushing back against this? And now I think we should 79 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,399 pushing back against it as it relates to us getting 80 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:35,560 and planted with these things children. 81 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:37,319 Speaker 3: I'm a hard no too. 82 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, are you going to see me 83 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:42,879 out with a sign on an overpass saying don't put 84 00:04:42,879 --> 00:04:43,959 the machine in your body? 85 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: No? Why because they're going to do it. 86 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: Okay, But I think here's here's where I might want 87 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,519 to push back. By the way, the phrase is eschatology, 88 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,959 study the eschatology eschatog So yeah, we were told that 89 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,920 it would go this way. Here's where I'm at. Zach 90 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,759 and you given you your stance as a Christian man, 91 00:05:01,959 --> 00:05:05,040 the what what? What has been provided to you and 92 00:05:05,079 --> 00:05:08,480 your wife through how God is Blessed Bullwark. You have 93 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,800 podcasts that is well listened to. You're always you're out 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,560 on media. You're here. We, I think, are watchers at 95 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,920 the gate. You warned people about the housing thing. That 96 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,680 you were one of the guys saying, hey, can we 97 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,600 shore at the housing market? And all the wise guys said, 98 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,360 I can't be done, No one could do that. Plus 99 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:27,160 it can't fail. You were a watcher at the gate. 100 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,959 We see this coming, and I see these brain implants, 101 00:05:30,959 --> 00:05:33,879 and I and our body implants, and I fully understand. Ay, 102 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:36,040 what can be coded can be hacked, therefore your body 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,959 can be hacked. B you said, Silicon valley forward is forward. 104 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,319 There's only one gear. Keep moving forward. If we can, 105 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,399 we should. And if we can control mankind to think 106 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,199 like we do, why shouldn't we look at AI? That 107 00:05:49,319 --> 00:05:53,360 you had this anthropic AI that gave itself license to 108 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,519 negate attacks, that the commander in chief of the military 109 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,199 or the Joint chiefs of staff said no, we're going 110 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,279 to hit this target. Anthropic gave them themselves the right 111 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:04,519 in the terms of service to go No, we won't 112 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:08,759 help you with that attack. And right, so we're watchers 113 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:10,680 at the gate. I think it's up to us from 114 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,639 our platforms to say, do not get the body implant. 115 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:18,920 Say right now, I'm a hard no, just like I 116 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,319 was a hard mask no. I was a hard no 117 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,439 on the lockdowns, a hard no on the injections. I 118 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,759 am a one no on any form of body implant. 119 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,480 I mean that, that's how I see it, that we're 120 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:31,319 watchers at the gate. 121 00:06:32,199 --> 00:06:35,879 Speaker 4: I know, so I agree with you on what I 122 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,279 was getting to is that I am Look, I am 123 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:42,279 all about outreach and trying to save souls and do 124 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,240 all the stuff that I know that you believe in 125 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,000 as well as I do. 126 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:47,199 Speaker 3: I'm just saying I'm watching things. 127 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,519 Speaker 4: And one of the realizations I'm starting to come to 128 00:06:50,519 --> 00:06:53,519 is that you know, to me, it very much looks 129 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,120 like the sheeps and the sheep and the goats through 130 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:58,000 the process of getting separated. It's it's what it looks. 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,480 You see it all over the place. The other thing 132 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:04,519 that I am very encouraged by, and it's also kind 133 00:07:04,519 --> 00:07:07,560 of scary to see, is have you noticed that anybody 134 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,920 out there, regardless of where they start on the ideological 135 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,600 arc of things right, whether liberal, conservative, whatever, atheist, Christian. 136 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,800 And it's one of the things that gives me so 137 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:23,480 much faith in belief in Christ and what we know 138 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,040 to be true, because this is always the case. But 139 00:07:26,079 --> 00:07:28,399 I find it fascinating that anybody that you see out 140 00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:31,240 there that earnestly goes searching for truth, they all end 141 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:34,240 up in the same place regardless of where they start, 142 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,079 regardless of how I mean. Go less to a guy 143 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,399 like Joe Rogan talk and listen to how what he 144 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:41,720 has said and the messages and the things he's talked 145 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,199 about have completely flipped from six or seven years ago. 146 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:45,959 Speaker 3: Right. 147 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 4: So I am in no way saying I am not 148 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,319 into reaching out and helping other people, but I do 149 00:07:51,399 --> 00:07:54,040 think that we're coming to a point where we need 150 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:59,680 to economize our efforts and we need to aim them. 151 00:08:00,199 --> 00:08:04,319 Speaker 3: In my opinion, at least initially or. 152 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,199 Speaker 4: Or with the majority of our force, we need to 153 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,040 aim a lot of this stuff internally in terms of 154 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,439 other Christians, because what I am starting to see again, 155 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:16,800 we're not going to quit saying, you know, speaking the 156 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:20,360 truth and giving the word, and you know, all of 157 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:21,560 the things that we've been called to do. 158 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,839 Speaker 3: But you know, and this comes as no. 159 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: Surprise to anybody Christian thought, Christian ideology, Christian life practices, 160 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Christian way of living is becoming even more and more endangered, 161 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,120 even in the own, even in the Christian Church. 162 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: So you're saying, aim it internly beginning with the Body 163 00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:43,000 of Christ and educating the Body of Christ and solidifying 164 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,440 the Body of Christ, and making sure that we're square 165 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,320 on salvation issues, that people are not walking away from 166 00:08:49,399 --> 00:08:51,639 Christ or as people were warned throughout the Bible, do 167 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,720 not wander away, do not be taken the past. 168 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's not about faith or being And it's 169 00:08:57,159 --> 00:08:59,039 not about faith, and it's not about me sitting there 170 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:01,759 saying we need to accuse our efforts and go after 171 00:09:01,799 --> 00:09:04,639 the people we think God wants. I'm just talking about 172 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,759 you have so many you have so many bullets, right 173 00:09:06,759 --> 00:09:10,840 who you're going to aim them at? And what I 174 00:09:10,879 --> 00:09:15,480 am seeing is in the in public generally, I am 175 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:21,720 seeing a you know, an increasing amount of vitriol painted 176 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:25,679 pointed and aimed at anything that is aligned with Christian 177 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,720 beliefs or whatsoever. And so what I'm saying is because 178 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:31,000 of that, for that heightened in and then you listen 179 00:09:31,039 --> 00:09:32,919 to the people that have the most animous toward the 180 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,440 Christian side of things, Yeah, like they're off their rocker. 181 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,720 I mean, it's it's mad right, it's madness time. It's 182 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,279 craziness time. We're making stuff up. We believe in all 183 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:44,799 this stuff that isn't true. And what I'm saying is 184 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:46,960 the realization I came to recently where I was like, 185 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,480 I agree with everything you said. I think that we 186 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,759 need to primarily be aiming that at those that have 187 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:58,039 at soil that at least has the capacity to absorb 188 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,120 the water and the seed. 189 00:09:59,360 --> 00:09:59,919 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean. 190 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,639 Speaker 5: I'm just listening to a couple of social media posts 191 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:07,200 about some people nobody is beyond God's redemption, but they're 192 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,960 beyond mine, which means, you know, I got to logically 193 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,320 sit there and say, do I have a chance of 194 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,440 reaching somebody like that? 195 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:12,799 Speaker 2: Now? 196 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, Jesus made that clear. You know, if you're 197 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,639 in a village and you're out making disciples and they 198 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,399 won't listen to you in the rid to you, you know, 199 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,799 shake the dust off your sandals and move on and 200 00:10:21,879 --> 00:10:23,919 go to where it's more fruitful and where you could 201 00:10:23,919 --> 00:10:24,279 your sees. 202 00:10:24,799 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: Yep, that was my point. 203 00:10:25,799 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So if we play this out and this 204 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:30,120 is where I think, you know, as Christian people, we 205 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,320 should we should war game with God's help, so we 206 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,480 come to pass they get these implants. President Trump has 207 00:10:36,519 --> 00:10:39,039 signed this executive order to push this with six g 208 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:41,279 He even said, what this is going to get more 209 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:43,399 power to look in people's skin and see how perfect 210 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:45,759 it is. He even said that like as if he's 211 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,759 joking about this. So if we wore game, here's what 212 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:51,600 God told us, neither buy norself and that's the market 213 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,360 of the beast. Okay, so if we wore game this 214 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,679 together looking at you philanthropically, looking at me philanthropically, looking 215 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,600 at our both separate church communities body of Christ, but 216 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:03,080 we don't live in the same place that it's tend 217 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,440 the same church. I think this is a time for 218 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:09,559 the church to begin to really concentrate on feeding souls first, 219 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,840 saving souls. So that but then also I think we 220 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,840 better start making plans as Christian villages to be able 221 00:11:15,879 --> 00:11:18,279 to feed a lot of people and to be able 222 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,080 to do this outside of the zero push and that 223 00:11:21,159 --> 00:11:23,399 you're gonna have to eat the fake meats push, et cetera. 224 00:11:23,879 --> 00:11:26,039 I mean, I hate to say that we're gonna have 225 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:29,960 to be Christian communes, but we might have to be 226 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,679 if there's neither buy nor sell. How do you eat like? 227 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: No, I, yeah, I don't. 228 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 4: Those are interesting comments and or those are interesting thought exercises. 229 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,559 I don't know. I don't have any answer to that. 230 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,039 And I agree with you. It's one of the reasons 231 00:11:47,039 --> 00:11:52,440 why you know I want that. And you know, look, 232 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,480 I'm really not an extreme or a worst case scenario 233 00:11:57,639 --> 00:11:58,159 type person. 234 00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: I'm really not. I could yeah, I couldn't. 235 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: Couldn't be to be in this, in this business that 236 00:12:02,519 --> 00:12:07,399 I'm in. Having said that, I'm not an idiot, and 237 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:10,960 I do believe in the Word of God, and I 238 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,000 have no idea the timeline and no man shall know 239 00:12:15,039 --> 00:12:18,120 the day or the hour. And I have a lot 240 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,279 of humility when it comes to approaching this because I 241 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:21,679 don't have a better I don't have a better idea 242 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,799 anybody else does. That being said, I think you're really 243 00:12:25,879 --> 00:12:28,440 hard pressed to be a person of faith and to 244 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,159 be a Christian and to tell me that you don't 245 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,360 see the same piece as p it moved around the 246 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:34,200 board that I do. 247 00:12:34,639 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: I mean, hey, like I said, no man shall know day. 248 00:12:36,759 --> 00:12:39,279 Speaker 4: I'm open to anything. But at the same time you're 249 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:40,320 looking around going. 250 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:42,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I. 251 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 4: It's it's hard to push back, and and for that reason, 252 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,240 it's one of the reasons that I'm currently looking for 253 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:55,240 a piece of land somewhere out out somewhere where I 254 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,919 think that I have the ability to hunt and fish 255 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,279 and at least, you know, raise some food and things 256 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,480 like that, because I'm preparing myself. Elice Mendally you brought 257 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,639 that up. I'm preparing myself because you know, God grant 258 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,720 me the strength. But that's that's a bridge too far 259 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:12,679 for me. You know, me and my family will not 260 00:13:12,759 --> 00:13:15,679 be getting things implanted in us. We will not be 261 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,120 getting whatever that looks like, Well, we're not going along 262 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:18,480 with it. 263 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:20,919 Speaker 1: So let's take this the other direction. Now, let's go back. 264 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:23,519 We started this on a finance basis. I was listening 265 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:27,279 to this guy talk and he was explaining that, yeah, 266 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,840 sooner rather than later, we're going to see cell phones. 267 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,519 Those things aren't going to exist. That this is going 268 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,799 to be implanted in your bodies. And you and I 269 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:36,759 are in agreements, like I have a place I can 270 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,679 hunt and fish, and you know, we've got access to 271 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,960 that stuff here in North Idaho. 272 00:13:40,039 --> 00:13:40,799 Speaker 3: Praise God for that. 273 00:13:42,799 --> 00:13:44,879 Speaker 1: But if I were to be making a financial pitch 274 00:13:44,919 --> 00:13:48,840 to you, like how big is this financially and how therefore, 275 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,799 how hard is it going to be for finance people 276 00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:53,399 to not say, okay, I'll back that. They're going to 277 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,200 look at sunsetting iPhones, I mean mobile phones. They will 278 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,559 set a sunset date for this. This watch I wear 279 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:05,200 you Phoenix Pro seven. This is not implantable tech, but 280 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:07,480 it follows me everywhere. It's tied to a think email 281 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,399 account's not my Google accounts. They might know who I am, 282 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,759 but not because I gave them the information. The pitch is, 283 00:14:13,799 --> 00:14:18,639 eventually the cell phone just doesn't have certain features. You know, 284 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:21,720 we can't really support maps anymore. Now that's just vocal 285 00:14:21,799 --> 00:14:23,559 and you can't enter an address. You need to speak 286 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,639 into it. And eventually, you know, the watch it is 287 00:14:26,759 --> 00:14:28,399 it needs to be. We need to do this impact. 288 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:30,240 They're eventually going to get to a point where there 289 00:14:30,279 --> 00:14:33,639 aren't cell phones, and I could see the employment world 290 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:36,919 being okay, so we're gonna need you to get this implant. 291 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,440 What are you talking about, Well, we need to be 292 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,480 able to reach you. You have to be able to work. 293 00:14:40,519 --> 00:14:43,759 Speaker 4: Okay, but this is where you're going off the rails. 294 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:47,720 Government would never mandate we put something in our minds. 295 00:14:47,919 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know why. 296 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 4: Okay, so getting all conspiratorial right, right, But they did this. 297 00:14:58,159 --> 00:15:00,559 Speaker 1: So, Zach, if I'm looking at you as a finance 298 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,480 guy and I'm saying, we're the company that's going to 299 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:10,039 own seventy percent market share of the communication implants the platform, Zach, 300 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,159 our company is going to have the operating system in 301 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,799 seventy percent of human bodies. What do you value my 302 00:15:16,879 --> 00:15:23,879 company at? Is there a number you're talking about. We're 303 00:15:23,879 --> 00:15:26,279 gonna encourent, You're gonna need an updates, You're gonna need 304 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,440 software updates. 305 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,679 Speaker 4: I mean, realistically, if you had that kind of tech 306 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,799 and that kind of company was out there right now, 307 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:37,039 it would be hard for me not to see the 308 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,240 market assignment somewhere to five to ten trillion dollar market gap. 309 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: Well let's see Elon Musk has Starnut, Starlink, SpaceX, SpaceX, 310 00:15:49,919 --> 00:15:51,960 and he has the brain implants. 311 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:56,639 Speaker 3: Brawn Company, Neuralink. Yeah yeah no. And and here's the 312 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,799 thing that people need to realize, right. 313 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: It's it's it's not at least this is my interpretation. 314 00:16:04,519 --> 00:16:06,240 And I'm not a biblical scholar. I mean, I've spent 315 00:16:06,279 --> 00:16:08,840 my entire life reading it, and you know, going to 316 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,759 church and Bible studies and all that kind of stuff. 317 00:16:10,799 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: But I'm not nowhere near to a spiritual scholar. 318 00:16:14,519 --> 00:16:15,879 Speaker 4: But one of the things that I think we've got 319 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:17,360 to keep in mind, and I think that we can, 320 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,360 we can extrapolate this over to President Trump. Just because 321 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:23,759 somebody is a political ally of ours does not mean 322 00:16:23,799 --> 00:16:26,360 that they're with us spiritually, correct, And it doesn't mean 323 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,519 and it does not mean they're aligned with us spiritually. 324 00:16:28,799 --> 00:16:30,360 And we're going to see a lot of people that 325 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,879 are that are are our political allies, and we're going 326 00:16:34,919 --> 00:16:38,440 to see people that have done wonderful things politically go 327 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,799 along with this. Why because it's technology and its progress. 328 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,879 They're not looking at it through the same lens that 329 00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:46,279 we are. Right, they don't see the danger on the 330 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,919 other side that we see, and they don't see where 331 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:53,159 this is leading. So it I'll tell you where the 332 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,440 difficult part for me, and for the most part, we're 333 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,519 not there yet at least in my opinion. 334 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: But on the. 335 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,079 Speaker 4: Investment side, right, meaning where do we put money? Because 336 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,720 I will not fund something like that, like so when 337 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,000 that company pops out, we will not be shareholders. 338 00:17:10,039 --> 00:17:11,559 Speaker 3: I can't profit off something like that. 339 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: We did so we need to talk about that another like, 340 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:15,720 we need to take a second and we need to 341 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:19,079 think about this and talk about that. Zach Abraham get 342 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:21,319 more at Know Your Risk podcast dot com, of course, 343 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:23,880 and I want to continue to discussion here a second, Zach. 344 00:17:24,759 --> 00:17:28,359 We are headed into a like this this war. You're 345 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,359 watching this war and watching our guys, and how proud 346 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,759 are you of our troops and what they're able to 347 00:17:33,759 --> 00:17:35,759 do when they're told to do it. I'm skeptical about 348 00:17:35,759 --> 00:17:37,559 the reason for the war. I don't know that we're 349 00:17:37,559 --> 00:17:40,240 being told the truth. That doesn't mean that I don't 350 00:17:40,279 --> 00:17:43,599 one hundred percent back our troops because the things they 351 00:17:43,599 --> 00:17:46,400 can do are just incredible. No greater love has man 352 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,559 than will laid down his life for his brother. 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Zach, 375 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:53,279 We're going to ask you for this much money for 376 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,960 our initial value is ten trillion dollars ten years from now, 377 00:18:57,039 --> 00:18:58,920 we think it's one hundred trillion. Are you in for 378 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:02,039 a billion? And you're saying no, even though you could 379 00:19:02,039 --> 00:19:05,079 turn around and Bulwark could be worth you know, ten 380 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,279 trillion dollars yeah. 381 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: And here's the deal. When we do turn that down, 382 00:19:09,599 --> 00:19:12,680 we'll have clients leave because of it. I get, you know. 383 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 4: And the reason you won't is, or the reason I 384 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,519 won't is I heard a pastor give a speech recently 385 00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:23,559 or a sermon that I thought he made an excellent point. 386 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,440 It's one that I think is missing from a lot 387 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,960 of discussions in Christianity today. And he was talking about 388 00:19:31,319 --> 00:19:37,920 going down and visiting Jim Baker in prisons, Jim. 389 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,039 Speaker 1: From Jim and Tammy Faye Baker fame if people don't know, 390 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,640 disgraced evangelical who frankly stole a bunch of money, did 391 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,000 very bad things in the name of Christ. 392 00:19:46,319 --> 00:19:49,279 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And this guy had written a book and 393 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,240 Jim Baker apparently had read the book in prison, and 394 00:19:51,279 --> 00:19:53,400 the requested that he could speak to him. So he 395 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,920 went down there and talked to him, and he said, 396 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,720 you know, you gotta tell me. He's like, you know, 397 00:19:57,799 --> 00:20:00,240 you still seem like a spirit feeled guy. When did 398 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,279 you quit loving Jesus? Because you must have like abandoned 399 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,119 Christ to do the things you did. And he goes, 400 00:20:05,519 --> 00:20:08,039 you know what's funny, he goes, I never did. He goes, 401 00:20:08,279 --> 00:20:10,279 that's not what happened. He goes, I love Jesus all 402 00:20:10,279 --> 00:20:11,319 the way through that whole thing. 403 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: He said. 404 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:17,519 Speaker 4: What happened is I didn't fear God, right, And you know, 405 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:20,079 it's one of those reasons that like I've always. 406 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,519 Speaker 3: Kind of like shuddered when I see people wearing Jesus. 407 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 4: Is my homeboy hat, you know, where I'm like, it's 408 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,640 not your homeboy man. That's the that is the that 409 00:20:29,759 --> 00:20:32,119 is the being that laid the foundations of the earth 410 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,920 and knit you together in your mother's womb. I think 411 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,000 we probably should apply a bit more respect in reverence. 412 00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:42,720 And if the reason I'm not touching that is because I, 413 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:44,839 on the other hand, do have a fear of God 414 00:20:45,599 --> 00:20:48,880 and I am not going to make business decisions that 415 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,640 cross over what I know that He wants us to do. 416 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,480 And so when that stuff comes out and it's a 417 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:59,880 parent that it's moving that way, we're out and that 418 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,799 probably really inhibit investment returns. But it's going to be 419 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,279 what it is, because, like I said, I fear God, 420 00:21:06,279 --> 00:21:09,160 and I think that that's one of the things that 421 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:12,759 we have to keep front and foremost in our minds. 422 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,000 If you and I are correct about us going into 423 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:17,279 a period of time that looks the way it very 424 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,160 much does from the outside. I mean, if you had 425 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,759 a checklist about what you want to see happen, you're 426 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:27,599 all systems go right, right, So, just biblically speaking, and 427 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,359 I think one of the primary concerns that we need 428 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,440 to have at the forefront of our minds is hearing 429 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,200 God properly and making sure, Hey, it's the fourth quarter. 430 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,960 Make sure you're in your playbook, make sure you are dialed, 431 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:43,759 make sure you are making eternal decisions and not ephemeral ones, 432 00:21:44,279 --> 00:21:47,000 and make sure you know you're on the right side 433 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:50,160 of things, right, like this is go time, and. 434 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: Twenty six is we don't sit at tables with scoffers, 435 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:59,079 We do not eat with non believers, right. We love 436 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,200 the habitation of God's home, of his temple, of his words, 437 00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:07,680 and we don't walk with scoffers. And if you are 438 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,400 going to install implants in the people and control them 439 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,039 that way, you're not just a scoffer, right, You're a 440 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:17,839 schemer and a plotter. So I fully endorse, and I'm 441 00:22:17,839 --> 00:22:19,599 so thankful that you take that point of view. And 442 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,480 on the topic, I don't did you see demonic? 443 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: Let me push it throughther You're a demonic lever, right, 444 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,079 If you're going along with this, you're part of the 445 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:29,839 wrong plan. 446 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,079 Speaker 3: Right, You're an active player. So yeah, yeah, and you 447 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:34,519 will be. 448 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: You will answer for that, and that answer might be 449 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,400 in hell. If you are signing up with the demons 450 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,079 to do this to people, and if you somehow you 451 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,400 make it through that, you're gonna have a long conversation 452 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,880 with Jesus about why did you do the Market of 453 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,200 the Beast? 454 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 455 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:52,039 Speaker 1: Well but the Lord, did you see the returns? 456 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, but we had a killer fourth course right with 457 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,599 the expectations. 458 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,079 Speaker 1: All the nis were lost. So this is a little 459 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:06,119 bit like off the purely spiritual. They don't think it 460 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,799 needs to be. You saw that Jack Dorsey fired a 461 00:23:09,839 --> 00:23:12,480 bunch of people. Did you see this? Okay? I don't 462 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,079 even really understand what blocks the company does. I mean, 463 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:17,720 I think it ties together all his financial investments like 464 00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:21,559 Square and cash app and all that. So can we 465 00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:23,400 admit he's really good at what he does. 466 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's excellent at what he does. 467 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,279 Speaker 4: And the other thing I'll say for Jack Dorsey is 468 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,319 if you're looking at him through the lens of Silicon 469 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,920 Valley billionaires, he's one of. 470 00:23:35,839 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: The better ones, meaning. 471 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,039 Speaker 4: He's done some questionable things, but he's also not at 472 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,079 least my impression of him is that he is not 473 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,359 an enemy of the state. 474 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 3: He's more reasonable. 475 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, he says no state is the best state on 476 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,039 his profile. He let Twitter become a censorship machine, and 477 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:58,440 he's later come out and said I should have never 478 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,759 given ant pressure and Elon's right to do what Elon's 479 00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:05,039 done with Twitter. And he actually posted this on Twitter, 480 00:24:05,759 --> 00:24:08,039 and he made this note. He said, today we're making 481 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:09,920 one of the hardest decisions in the history of the company. 482 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,119 We're reducing our organization by nearly half, from over ten 483 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,599 thousand people to just under six thousand. That means over 484 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,799 four thousand of you are being asked to leave or 485 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,839 entering into consultation. I'll be straight about what's happening, why, 486 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:24,799 and what it means for everyone. First off, if you're 487 00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:26,799 one of the few of the people affected, you receive 488 00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:29,440 a sour about twenty weeks plus one week per year 489 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,039 of tenure. That's pretty solid. I mean, give it to 490 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:35,160 that guy. Very fair equity vested through the end of May, 491 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,079 six months of healthcare, your corporate devices, and five thousand 492 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,240 dollars to put toward whatever you may need to help 493 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,880 in this transaction or transition. That's solid. 494 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 3: That's a really fair package, treating people. 495 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,279 Speaker 1: Well, and it's across the board. If you're outside the US, 496 00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:51,519 you receive a similar support, but exact details are going 497 00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:53,960 to very based on location requirements. I want you to 498 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,680 know that before anything else, everyone will be notified today, 499 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,240 whether you're being asked to leave, entering into consultation, or 500 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:02,279 asked to stay. We're not making this decision because we're 501 00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:05,640 in trouble. Our business is strong, gross profits continue to grow, 502 00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:08,839 we continue to serve more and more customers and profitabilities improving. 503 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,000 But something has changed. We're already seeing that the intelligence 504 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,079 tools we're creating and using, paired with smaller and flatter teams, 505 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,079 are enabling a new wave of working which fundamentally changes 506 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,559 what it means to build and run a company, and 507 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:24,440 that's accelerating rapidly. You can dislike Jack Dorsey all you want, 508 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,400 but this guy gets tech like few people get it. 509 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,039 This has been seen as AI did these firings, and 510 00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:34,160 then the day he posted this, zach I looked at 511 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,000 the gain on the stock market and they went up 512 00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:43,440 twenty five percent after this report because they ended the 513 00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:48,759 jobs of a huge portion of their employment base and 514 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,240 gave them a very fair package. But is anything more 515 00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:55,599 clear of signs of things to come economically and job 516 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,519 wise than this. 517 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:57,799 Speaker 2: No. 518 00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 4: And now the one the one grain of salt that 519 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,440 we've got to enter in there is that when we 520 00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:08,759 talk about AI taking over jobs, it's it's going to 521 00:26:08,839 --> 00:26:11,680 happen rapidly and in a way that we've never seen before. 522 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,039 But it's going to happen rapidly, and you know, there's 523 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:17,200 a certain amount of poetic justice in this as well. 524 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: It's going to happen most rapidly in the tech sector. 525 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 4: Okay, So if you're outside the tech sector, if you're 526 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,000 working a trade job, if we're going you know, all 527 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:29,400 these other kind of stuff, you're long ways out from 528 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,839 being disrupted or or or being obsoleted. If you're a 529 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,240 person sitting in a San Francisco or a Silicon Valley 530 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:45,160 tech company. Though in your coating, yeah, it doesn't look 531 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,279 very good. It doesn't look very good. And I think 532 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:51,920 that you will probably look at the majority of these 533 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,599 tech companies, unfortunately, and forty percent reduction in labor staff 534 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,519 will probably be seen as on the light side, I 535 00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:03,759 think a lot of these tech companies now with the 536 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:08,039 proper deployment of AI, could probably lower their their workforce 537 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:11,160 by sixty five to eighty percent on missfeed. I mean, 538 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:13,640 you go look at the number of people that are coders, 539 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,599 the people that assist them, the people that work with them, 540 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:17,880 and the stuff around it. You're probably talking on the 541 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,079 average tech company, you're probably looking at seventy to eighty 542 00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:24,559 percent of the labor. So now, now not with a 543 00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:29,240 company like Amazon, right, most of their employees are not coders, 544 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,119 but they're impacted the same way. Right, they're inside of 545 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,519 factories that are going to be quickly displaced with. 546 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:39,079 Speaker 3: You know, autonomous robots and things like that. 547 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,759 Speaker 4: So it's going to move quickly during the tech tech industry. 548 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:46,119 The one thing though that I also want to caution 549 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,880 people is on the investment side, you've got to keep 550 00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:50,799 You've got to keep in mind's scale. 551 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's awful. 552 00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:56,279 Speaker 4: For everybody that works at Block that forty percent of 553 00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:59,000 the workforce is gone, But when you look at four 554 00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:03,079 thousand jobs it proper scale into the entire size of 555 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:05,640 this economy, it is truly nothing. It is like a 556 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,559 drop in the bucket. The other good thing about tech 557 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,680 is despite the high evaluations and all the kind of 558 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,039 stuff it when you look at the people that are 559 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,160 employed by high tech, it's not a ton of people 560 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,279 right in relationship to the entire economy. 561 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,799 Speaker 3: Is it going to create waves? Oh yeah? Is it 562 00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:26,119 going to create economic disruptions? Oh yeah. 563 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,599 Speaker 4: The interesting thing is it's very deflationary, right. AI is 564 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:31,559 very deflationable. 565 00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:33,759 Speaker 1: Hold that thought because that's super super importance. And I 566 00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:35,640 want to make sure we get this really, really nailed, 567 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,720 because this is an important thought for people who run 568 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,079 their on investments, et cetera. You got to understand this stuff. 569 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:43,240 And then I want to loop this back into being 570 00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:45,519 men of faith to what degree you and I can 571 00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:49,400 fire people and still be okay if we're going to 572 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,799 go out and use AI, Because I think that's another conversation. 573 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,200 I am headed down again. People said to me. It 574 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,880 was so funny. People said to me, well, I guess 575 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,720 you've done going to Mexico for stem cells? 576 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: What like? 577 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: As I said last week, does that mean I'm done 578 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,119 going to Oregon because Portland exists for Seattle because it's 579 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:10,720 owned by Antifa. No, I am well behind and really 580 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,279 really backing this anti aging protocol that my friends at 581 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,640 Renew have put together. They have been studying the heck 582 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,240 out of this. Some of the things coming out of renew. 583 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,960 It's next month they're publishing a paper to show that 584 00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:24,359 they have had an approach that can cure type two 585 00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:29,480 diabetes stem cells and hyperbaric and what they've been doing. 586 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,920 They are also now experimenting with the ability to steer 587 00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:37,759 stem cells to tell them you will go build the 588 00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:42,839 following tissue because these stem cells have building capabilities, and 589 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,960 Renew is expert at making sure that they replace cartilage 590 00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:51,359 and muscle and tendon and destroy inflammation. But imagine if 591 00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:55,400 they could then go assign stem cells a role you 592 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,440 build heart tissue. Imagine this. So this anti aging protocol 593 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,640 is on the edge of this. It's edge medicine. And 594 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,759 when I come back from Mexico, I will have been 595 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:07,359 through five days of this a male clinic level look 596 00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:10,240 at my body, epigenetic aging, et cetera. I will be 597 00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:13,960 officially the CEO of my health. So if I sit down, 598 00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:17,240 say with my hormone doc, Doc Jen, and I say, okay, Jen, 599 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:18,759 this is what we're working on. I don't really care 600 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:21,160 about your blood test gen no offense. I'm not going 601 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,599 to take him anymore. This is the plan of record. 602 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,880 This is what I'm going to do. If I go 603 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,720 to my general, if I go to a general MD 604 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,640 it happens to be a friend of mine, doctor Duke, 605 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,400 I will sit down and say, hey, Duke, here's what 606 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,319 we're doing. This is this stuff I'm concentrating on. Everything 607 00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:36,720 else's noise. If you want to be the CEO of 608 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,200 your health, then this is your opportunity to do this. 609 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:42,359 Get to renew dot Healthcare. It's our E n U 610 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,559 E dot Healthcare. Tell me are part of the Todd 611 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:50,720 Hermannshaw family. So AI is deflationary and this should mean 612 00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:54,559 something for people who are kind of doing DIY investing 613 00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:57,279 at home. It should also mean something if you're buy 614 00:30:57,319 --> 00:30:59,440 and hold, you should probably listen real close to a 615 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,960 guy who does risk management, actively managing portfolios, which can 616 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,079 reduce rise in volatility. 617 00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:07,079 Speaker 3: By the way, yeah hey, look at that plot that. Yeah, so. 618 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,759 Speaker 4: It's you got to love markets and hit human ingenuity. 619 00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:15,400 It's really funny when we're up against, you know, the 620 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,440 greatest inflationary impulse that we've seen in the last forty years. 621 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,839 It's at the same time that you're at the we 622 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,119 stand at the precipice of the most deflationary technology of 623 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,240 all time. And why is it the most deflationary technology 624 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,599 of all time? Because it's going to drastically lower costs. Right, 625 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,960 Look at Block right, Block now is telling you that 626 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:36,519 they can operate their business at the same level and 627 00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:39,359 probably a greater efficiency level by deploying AI. 628 00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: Then they can having a workforce it's forty percent larger. 629 00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 4: Okay, that is not unique to Block, Like I said, 630 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,559 that is going to become the story of virtually every 631 00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:51,119 single tech company when you consider the fact fact that 632 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,400 tech companies are by far and away the highest paying employers. 633 00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:58,079 Speaker 3: You look at how many high paying jobs are getting nuked. 634 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: Okay, what we forget about out is we just think 635 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,160 about the downside of that as being unemployed. And that's 636 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,839 a very real human cost. And every time I see 637 00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:09,079 a headline of people getting laid off, you know, you 638 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,920 say a quick prayer for me for you know, you 639 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,880 know that for a lot of them, they're entering a 640 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,880 really bad time right trying to figure out how they're 641 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,359 going to pay for the kids, how they're going to 642 00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:18,079 figure things out. 643 00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 3: All that kind of stuff. 644 00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:24,279 Speaker 4: But this is the trajectory it is going, and think 645 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:27,000 about the impact that has where all of a sudden, 646 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,039 you like, like, let's use let's use a city like 647 00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:34,920 San Francisco as a quick analogy, and you think about 648 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,000 how much tech money dominates that that space. Let's say, 649 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,200 of all of the big cap tech people laid off 650 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,079 forty percent of their workforce just in the state of California. Now, 651 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,079 when they start these layoffs in mass my guess is 652 00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,240 is that more of the layoffs will be pointed at 653 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,119 California than any other place because that's where the highest 654 00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:56,799 paid people are. 655 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: Right. 656 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 4: So if you lay those people off, let's say, over 657 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,200 the course of six months, what do you think would 658 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,559 happen to homes and the Palo Alto in the San 659 00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:11,079 Francisco area between the prices of two to six million dollars, They're. 660 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,039 Speaker 1: Going to fall, Yeah, they're going to fall down. 661 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:13,599 Speaker 2: Right. 662 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,519 Speaker 3: What do you think about BMW dealerships around that area? 663 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: W oops ooops? 664 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,119 Speaker 5: Right? 665 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: Teships maybe yep, whoops? 666 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,279 Speaker 4: See yeah, And so that is a big deflationary force. 667 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,680 Then we've got to think about the trickle down effects. 668 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,599 Those same people aren't going to be hiring a construction 669 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,519 crew to build an entertainment facility on the back porch. 670 00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:34,319 Speaker 3: They're not going to be put in a pool. 671 00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:36,279 Speaker 4: They're not going to be building on an addition for 672 00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,480 mother in law to come live in, right, They're not 673 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,440 going to need the electrical work, the plumbing work, property taxes, 674 00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:42,759 all of these different things. 675 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,759 Speaker 3: So it's going to be a very deflationary force. Now, 676 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,079 the tough part of figuring all this out is what's 677 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:52,079 that going to mean for us? 678 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,519 Speaker 4: Because we already know how the governments are going to 679 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,160 respond to a deflationary force. 680 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,519 Speaker 3: What are they going to do? They're going to print more. 681 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 4: And in that way, you can actually look at what 682 00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:05,599 Trump is saying and sit there and go, Okay, you're 683 00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:09,599 not cutting government budgets quick enough, and there is no 684 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,480 economic to justify a rate hike if depending on the 685 00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:17,519 speed of how AI rolls out, like if you look 686 00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:19,480 at economic out of the day, what Trump is saying, 687 00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:22,239 there is no basis to cut infrastrates substantially. 688 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 3: There is no basis. 689 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,199 Speaker 4: But you could absolutely see the scenario inside of twelve 690 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,719 months where there would be yeah, because these job cuts 691 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,159 are going to come fast right the minute they got 692 00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:34,840 these tech guys. And I'm not telling you anything you 693 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,280 don't know, but they are not encumbered by the same 694 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:40,199 moral quandaries that you and I are. 695 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: No and nor are their investors and their investors I guarantee, 696 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,960 and you know this and I know this that when 697 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,280 Dorsey made this announcement, there were board calls scheduled. Get 698 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,760 the founder and the CEO, the CFO on the phone 699 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,320 of every single one of our companies, and those calls 700 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:56,800 went like. 701 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 3: This for them to do the same thing right you 702 00:34:59,480 --> 00:34:59,719 saw it. 703 00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:03,079 Speaker 1: Did we want a plan by Wednesday of next week, 704 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:06,280 and how we're gonna have similar cuts, and we want 705 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,599 to see a twenty to thirty percent across the boards, 706 00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:12,440 and we want it done now because if AI can 707 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,679 do this there, we got to do it here. We 708 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,840 got to keep up. And as I used to say 709 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,440 in the media business, here's how they say it in 710 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,199 the media business, down cycle and ads, I need ten heads, 711 00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:24,920 that's and that's how they referred to human beings. 712 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,159 Speaker 3: Ten heads yep, yep. Yeah. 713 00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:30,199 Speaker 4: And and these and you and I both know these 714 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,679 tech guys are even more ruthless. So these job cuts 715 00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:36,440 are going to come fast. This is not investment advice. 716 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,039 And at all, and this is not something we're doing. 717 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:44,320 But having said that, I would not be surprised if that. 718 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,280 It'll probably take one or two other companies announcing, and 719 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,760 that could kind of start the firestorm, right, you know 720 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,960 how this stuff starts. It always starts with one company, 721 00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:55,159 then two or one or two more do it, and 722 00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:58,400 then boom, the domino starts fall. That could be the 723 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,239 impetus for a really good rally on on big cap 724 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,559 tech here. So outside of that, US still broadly, to me, 725 00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:10,360 is extraordinarily non interesting, just because it's so expensive compared 726 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,480 to the rest of the world. And you know, you've 727 00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:14,159 looked at all the drama you've had this year. If 728 00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:17,039 you're a US investor, you're sitting on zero percent gains. Meanwhile, 729 00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:20,119 we're sitting on thirteen to fifteen. So yeah, I just 730 00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:24,400 I But if they started announcing that, you will see 731 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,440 a rally kind of like you saw on block across 732 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,639 the board in a lot of those names. 733 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,599 Speaker 1: So we as Christian men, you know, Alex is irreplaceable 734 00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:34,719 to me. We've been together so long in radio and 735 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,920 he actually came to me one day and said you 736 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000 could actually replace me with AI, and I said, no, 737 00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:42,320 I can't replace you, yeah, because I trust you and 738 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,639 you know me and we've worked together so long. And 739 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,960 as Christian men running businesses, I mean, I think we 740 00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:53,760 have to use AI to some degree because it's a big, 741 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,599 fancy search engine and I'm using it to write my 742 00:36:56,679 --> 00:37:00,159 book and it's been really helpful in that I'm very 743 00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:02,719 careful to never treat it as human. I treat it 744 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,480 as an algorithm software. That's it. Don't be condient. I 745 00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:09,400 think it's human. But man, we're going to be under 746 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,599 pressure too, and I think as Christian men, we need 747 00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:14,920 to be able to take a margin haircut, as it were, 748 00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:18,719 in order to keep our fellow human beings, particularly in 749 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,039 the body of Christ working with us. I don't know 750 00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:21,599 if you concur. 751 00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:29,639 Speaker 4: I one hundred percent concur and I personally, look, sometimes 752 00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:31,280 you're in a position in business where you have to 753 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,039 do what you have to do, and that's one of 754 00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:35,199 the responsibilities that comes with running a business. 755 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,199 Speaker 3: And if the. 756 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,559 Speaker 4: Choice is to let people go or keep the business 757 00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:42,119 open and at least come to keep some people employed, 758 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,599 that's the decision you got to make, right But in 759 00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:50,039 terms of just doing it for in my opinion, and 760 00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:53,360 I've been blessed to have some really good employees, great employees. 761 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,039 But the way that we look at it is I 762 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,559 don't really see it as hot firing somebody. 763 00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:02,559 Speaker 3: I see it as an employee opting out. 764 00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 4: And if an employee opts out, then I think it 765 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,599 is my duty to cut them loose, explain to them why. 766 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,440 And and like I've said before, you know, this isn't 767 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,960 so much of firing as it is. 768 00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:16,159 Speaker 3: This clearly isn't for you. 769 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,639 Speaker 4: It's not a passion, it's not something like you're This 770 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,440 may not be pleasant, but it puts you one. 771 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,559 Speaker 3: Step closer to where you should be. Right. So, and 772 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:29,519 those aren't those aren't fun conversations have. But I do 773 00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:31,639 not believe in. 774 00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 4: I just I'm I'm morally opposed to that of running 775 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,639 a business purely from the outlook of you know, we 776 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,880 I look at our employees and I'm not sitting here 777 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:43,440 trying to brag. 778 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 3: I just believe that this is the way you should 779 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:45,519 do it. 780 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 4: When my when when my partners, or when business consultants 781 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,559 or when my CPAs are going through our our numbers, 782 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,079 the number one complaint they always come back to me 783 00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:58,400 with is you pay your people way too much and 784 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,360 I said, yeah, but have you seen our customer our 785 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,440 client satisfaction numbers? And also have you seen our turnover? 786 00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:09,400 We don't have any? Okay, that's highly valuable. Could I 787 00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:12,679 cut their pay some and probably still keep those metrics? Yes, 788 00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:15,159 But when I'm prospering the way that I am and 789 00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:17,880 I have, why would you not spread that around? 790 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:18,599 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 791 00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,079 Speaker 4: Why would you not let the people that helped you 792 00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:25,239 build something get a piece of that outside of just 793 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,440 what you promised them? 794 00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 2: Right? 795 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 3: If they helped build this edifice that's now. 796 00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 4: Feeding you like nothing else has before, why would they 797 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,280 not get a taste to that large. 798 00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 3: S right, or a taste to that win? 799 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,639 Speaker 1: You have to if you're a shepherd. 800 00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:41,679 Speaker 3: I could not agree more. 801 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 4: And furthermore, if you're a if you're a if you 802 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,679 are a Christian businessman, you know you and I have 803 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,119 talked about this before, but I will always say it, 804 00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:52,000 and I'll say it proudly. 805 00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:56,599 Speaker 3: Business is personal. When you're a Christian. Business is personal. 806 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,039 Speaker 1: Is church is church? Business is business. 807 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,039 Speaker 4: No, And don't don't tell me that what you do 808 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,760 that your money game is separated from your God game. 809 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,119 Speaker 3: It's not. 810 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: And as a matter of fact, what you do with 811 00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:11,599 one is the number one calling card to how closely 812 00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:13,679 aligned you are with the other. Right, So, I think, 813 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,000 in my opinion, watching the way a Christian handles their 814 00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:19,400 money is the most important thing, right next to how 815 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,599 they treat people. And quite honestly, I think it's Quite honestly, 816 00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,599 I think it's more important because it put your money 817 00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:27,880 where your mouth is saying, exist for a reason, right. 818 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, And remember it's not yours, right, it's not yours, 819 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,639 managers exactly all right. Great to have you here, Wise 820 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,960 counsel Day, Zach Abraham neilariskpodcast dot com. God bless you, 821 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,760 God bless the family. This is the Todd Hermits Shaw. 822 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,800 Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and please 823 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,039 make every effort to walk in the light of Christ.