WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:07.080 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:18.039 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick coffee. 3 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:22.079 So I just went and checked upstairs, and it's not 4 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:27.039 pouring as far as the rain, but it's it's still raining. 5 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:29.679 It's not it's not sprinkling. 6 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:34.320 It's above sprinkling, but not like a consistent you know, 7 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:35.920 like it's one of those kind of things where you've 8 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:38.759 got your you got your wipers on. But it's probably 9 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:42.039 either at the low at the slowest speed or the 10 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:45.200 second to slowest speed. I think there's four different speeds 11 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:47.159 in my car. This would be as speed number two. 12 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:49.119 And I'm sure it's different where. I mean, you could 13 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:50.840 be listening. I mean, I'm sure we got people listening 14 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.320 all over the planet, because that's that's the reach of 15 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:55.399 Coffee and Company at least let me believe that. 16 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:56.439 But you could be. 17 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:58.359 Hell, you could be few streets over and maybe it's 18 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:01.159 rain and harder. I don't know, But man, mother Nature, 19 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:04.959 she's a she's an evil woman. She's a cold, cold lady. 20 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:08.879 Because we avoided rain like this for a long time, 21 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:12.920 and sure enough on Halloween, as the day moved on 22 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:15.040 and we got closer and closer to trick or treat 23 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:18.000 time that's when that's when this happened, and it's it's 24 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.359 a real shame. So I'm trying not to let it 25 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:23.439 impact the Halloween vibes, but it's hard not to because 26 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:25.079 you know, this isn't what you want. And I mean, 27 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:28.400 I'm not trick or treating myself, but you know, I'm 28 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:30.719 at the age where I remind myself and I don't 29 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:33.439 really need to remind myself, but I you know, if 30 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.200 I ever needed the reminder, I would be ready to 31 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:40.359 you know, to take not take for granted to the 32 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:41.879 fact that my kids still like doing this stuff. 33 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:42.439 It's a lot of fun. 34 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:44.079 There'll be a time where they're not into it and 35 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:46.079 they you know, they want to go do their own thing, 36 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:48.120 or they're too cool, they don't want to do a costume. 37 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:51.280 So you know, that's a good thing about the innocence 38 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:55.079 of children. You know, they're they're not happy, I'm sure 39 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:56.519 with the weather, but like they'll make the most of 40 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:02.000 it because they're they're you know, the kids. I'm trying 41 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.000 to think of, like how my kids are going to 42 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:05.719 do now. That was Sorry for the pause there, the 43 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.800 slight delay because you know, nobody wants to be out 44 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:10.840 in the rain, but I kind of feel like as 45 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:12.240 much as my kids, and I know a lot of 46 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:13.240 kids are probably the same way. 47 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:14.280 They love trick or treating. 48 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:16.960 That Like, if it's just a light drizzle, if they 49 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:18.680 got a hood on or something, they'll probably just roll 50 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:18.919 with it. 51 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:20.919 And that's the way you should do it. 52 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:22.879 Now, what I also hope is that and again, if 53 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:24.960 you're just putting out candy at your in your garage, 54 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:26.800 and a lot of people sometimes in our neighborhood will 55 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:28.960 set up like a I mean, in fact, that's what 56 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.319 makes our neighborhood so awesome for trick or treating. A 57 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:33.280 lot of people really just treat their driveway as like 58 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:35.719 a tailgate at a college football game. I Mean, there 59 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:37.280 are people in our neighborhood they don't have kids, but 60 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:39.960 they'll they'll set out, they'll they'll have their you know, 61 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:42.680 their beers, they're they're they're they're grilling, they're you know, 62 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:44.800 they're they're giving out candy, but really just you know, 63 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:48.280 taking in the vibes. So hopefully we can we can 64 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:50.159 make the most of it. Tonight, all right, it's Coffee 65 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:50.599 and Company. 66 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:50.960 That's us. 67 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.719 Our number three here on a Halloween edition of the show, 68 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:56.439 Nick Coffee. That's me the company man, mister John Alden 69 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:59.719 is alongside today as we take you up until six o'clock. 70 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:01.439 And you know this, but I'll tell you again. We're 71 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:04.039 fueled by Thornton's. So make sure you support those who 72 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:06.560 support us. I mean you don't have to. I can't 73 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:08.639 force you to, but I do ask you to do that, 74 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:11.120 not just Thornton's, but all of our sponsors, all those 75 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:13.800 that help us, you know, without them, I mean, you 76 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:14.520 wouldn't have this. 77 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:16.560 I wouldn't have this. I don't know what I would do. 78 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:17.840 Somebody asked me that. 79 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:20.840 The other day, John, if you didn't if you didn't 80 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:22.879 work in radio, what would you do? 81 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:25.960 And like it kind of hit me. Man, I don't 82 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:26.360 really know. 83 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:29.639 I've not been asked that directly, but I think about 84 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:31.879 it probably more often than I should, just because I 85 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:34.159 feel like, really every one of us in our industry 86 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.199 are kind of worried about the day that maybe we 87 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:39.240 have to figure something else out. But I don't know, 88 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:40.599 I haven't thought about it either. 89 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:42.919 You could say that about not only industries, but just 90 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:44.680 you know, you never know. Sometimes your job can just 91 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:47.759 you know. I mean, in fact, that's happened here with 92 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:49.639 us that it doesn't have a whole lot to do 93 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:54.159 with the overall world of you know, this industry that 94 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:57.639 is radio. But you know, jobs can just disappear, and 95 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:00.759 it's a sad thing. But I mean, you're but you're 96 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.960 like you're brand new in you're maybe you're not brand new, 97 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:04.719 but like you got out of school and this has 98 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:07.639 really been your career, right, yes, and that's awesome. I 99 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:09.039 you know, I've been able to make in my career 100 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:12.319 for about ten years now, which I I you know, 101 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.240 it's one of those things that I've always just felt like, hey, 102 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:15.360 I don't know how long this is gonna last. 103 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:16.319 I'm gonna make the most of it. 104 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:19.079 But every now and then I think to myself, I've 105 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:21.560 been doing this a lot longer than I than I 106 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:25.199 often realize. So I used to work in software and 107 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:28.920 I actually did like that, Like I enjoyed I really enjoyed. 108 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.399 You know, maybe that's nerd stuff in me, but I 109 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:35.439 enjoyed software testing software QA like that was kind of 110 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:38.399 my my field. And uh, maybe I would go back 111 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:40.519 to that, but I'm sure a lot of things have 112 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:42.800 changed since the last time I did that, So I 113 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:46.279 don't know, let's let's not think about it. So again, 114 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:49.120 that's another reason to help me and support those who 115 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:52.360 support us, like Thornton's Uh, like Proria Physical Therapy, like 116 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:56.160 the Jefferson Animal Hospital, like Alex R. White Lawyers, like Pellow, 117 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:59.639 Windows and Doors of Central Kentucky, like the Louisville Men's Clinic, 118 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:05.399 Blue Chew oh Ellen and Federal Credit Union. You kidding me, 119 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:07.680 I gotta forget them. They've been with us for a 120 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:10.439 long time. So thank you to all of those people, 121 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:12.639 and thank you to those if you do support them, 122 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:14.439 and if you don't, please keep in mind so I 123 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.639 don't have to, you know, be homeless. That's a stretch. 124 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:18.879 I don't think that would happen. But you know, I 125 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:21.079 really don't know. I'm kind of spazzing out here. I 126 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:22.560 think both of us are like, what would we do? 127 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:25.279 We probably just take this to the internet, right, and just. 128 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:28.600 I mean already both kind of done something like that before, 129 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.480 and I've been testing it out with my own Indiana stuff. 130 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:33.759 Yeah, you you have the best of both worlds because 131 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.519 you are I mean, you work for a monster that 132 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:40.199 is iHeartMedia, and we've got a phenomenal family of stations, 133 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.639 and clearly our bread is still buttered with radio and 134 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.560 everything that comes with it. But the visual side of 135 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:47.879 things is clearly a big thing now and we've tried 136 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:49.480 to do it until they told us, hey, you can't 137 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:52.879 do that, which again makes sense. But you know, there 138 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:55.399 are some that if this thing just ended one day, 139 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:56.720 and I don't mean this show, but I mean, like, 140 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:58.879 you know, if there ever was a big change to 141 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:03.240 AM radio, which that could happen, there'd be a lot 142 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:05.279 of folks that wouldn't you know, I guess know where 143 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:07.279 to start as far as the new world when it 144 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:11.800 comes to the digital side of this broadcasting, content creation, 145 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:15.240 that kind of stuff. So but hey, we're gonna we're 146 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:16.680 gonna ride this thing to the wheels fall off. 147 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:16.920 Sehn. 148 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:19.959 Don't you ever consider leaving me? Okay I've never said that, 149 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:21.240 but don't you ever think about it? 150 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:23.839 Please? Don't. It would be it wouldn't be as enjoyable. 151 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:26.519 All right, Uh, real quick, before we get back into 152 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:28.120 the obvious, we've got to talk a little more about 153 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.759 this Louisville Clemson matchup on Saturday. Well, we'll share with 154 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.160 you sort of the the takeaways from our conversation earlier 155 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.319 with Alex Cupper. Obviously, uh, Kentucky. I mean, I think 156 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:39.519 their fans have absolutely moved on from football, like they're 157 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.480 gonna watch the Kentucky Tennessee game, but like they're they're done. 158 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:43.680 I mean, and I get it. 159 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.399 I totally get it. And we got some football tonight 160 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:48.560 to get into, so we will do that. But this 161 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:52.959 is something that I thought about it earlier today. Louisville 162 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:57.319 and Kentucky themed Halloween costumes currently are over the years. 163 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:00.639 So the reason I thought of this is because I 164 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:05.199 have two friends who did a real easy but real 165 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:09.600 effective Pat Kelsey Halloween costume. 166 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:10.319 Right. 167 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:15.120 You wear you know, the khaki joggers, some Adida's shoes, 168 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:18.879 a UFL basketball polo, and if you have a similar 169 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:24.120 haircut and a somewhat similar build, you throw on those 170 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:28.920 big glasses and it works. I mean, my buddy Benji, 171 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:32.360 he pulled it off. He doesn't look as much like him, 172 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:35.079 but with everything else, you know, he made it work. 173 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:40.360 And then another buddy of mine, Rick Gibson, he actually 174 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:42.519 looks like Pat Kelsey in general, but he put on 175 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:44.519 like the you know, he put on the outfit essentially, 176 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.160 which is you know, everybody's wearing the same thing, and like, 177 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:48.399 I mean, I didn't think. 178 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:50.160 It was pat but like it looks a lot like him, 179 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:50.560 so it's. 180 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:54.360 Kind of easy to do. I remember years ago it 181 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.439 was adorable too. It wasn't as if everybody was doing it, 182 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:01.439 but I remember a few different kids dressed up in 183 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.959 Teddy Bear costumes with a Teddy Bridgewater jersey over top 184 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:09.079 of it. It was so adorable, and Teddy was a 185 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:10.600 you know, he's a made man at that time, and 186 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:13.399 because his name is Teddy, it gave you a chance to, 187 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:15.560 you know, get creative with it. You couldn't just mean 188 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:17.199 you could throw a jersey on and say you're Teddy, 189 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:19.720 but you know where in the Teddy Bear actually makes it. 190 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:23.319 It makes it make a little more sense. This is 191 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:27.720 a Kentucky fan outfit that was very, very common for 192 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:31.360 a while, Katina Pal. I don't think Louisville fans were 193 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:34.159 dressing ups, Katina Pale. But you dress up like a 194 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:37.639 like a you know, a nasty prostitute, and you know, 195 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:42.240 make yourself appear like that, then you can you can. 196 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:45.039 And I think usually the ones I saw whenever it 197 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:47.039 was more of a popular thing, whenever you wouldn't you know, 198 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:49.559 you go to a Halloween party around here with adults, 199 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:53.080 there'd be somebody dressed up as Katina pal and like 200 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:55.840 a woman would do the Katina pal thing and then 201 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:57.159 her husband boyfriend. 202 00:08:58.000 --> 00:08:59.279 He would make it. 203 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:02.440 More clear as to who his wife or girlfriend was 204 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:06.159 by either dressing as Rick Patino or dressing as an 205 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:08.960 FBI uh agent. It was like the It was like 206 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.120 the oh, you're making fun of U of L for 207 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:15.919 two different scandals, right, prostitutes in the dorm and the 208 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:19.360 FBI came in and wanted to snatch up Rick Pattino. 209 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:21.679 And we didn't give him a whole lot of ammunition, 210 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:22.039 did we? 211 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:23.720 Right? We didn't. 212 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:25.279 I mean, we haven't made it easy for our rival 213 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:27.120 to make fun of us, have we. We didn't have 214 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:30.639 a coach having sex on a table at an Italian restaurant, 215 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:30.960 did we? 216 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:33.960 Was that? Did I dream that? 217 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:38.159 By the way, speaking of Rick Patino Kentucky oh and 218 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:41.879 three since his ash showed up in Lexington, you think 219 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:45.279 there was a chance maybe it was all strategic on 220 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.600 Rick's part. He does love us, I mean I don't 221 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.120 believe that for a second, but will be wild if 222 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:51.720 he wanted to just like now that that now that 223 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:56.360 they're you know, like if if Duke mops Kentucky and 224 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:01.240 the Champions Classic. Rick now knows that both Josh Hurd 225 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:04.200 and Pat Kelsey have said on record that he's welcome 226 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:07.039 back anytime his players have called him out for lying 227 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:09.559 about saying he's never been welcomed back, Like what if 228 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:11.799 Rick did just say, yeah, you know what, Saint John's Uh, 229 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:13.720 I'm kind of bored up here in New York. You know, 230 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:17.320 Saint John's basketball probably ninth or tenth in line when 231 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:19.799 it comes to what matters with New York sports. Probably 232 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:21.360 not even that, to be honest with you, probably worse 233 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:23.559 than that. Yeah, let me you know, because if Rick's 234 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:25.960 got a chance to make something about himself, he'll do it, 235 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:29.000 and he's good at it. Clearly tongue in cheek here 236 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:32.799 because I believe his UK stuff was real, But you know, 237 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:36.039 there's gonna be some point where he does want to 238 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:39.320 come back here. And it worked because he did it, 239 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:43.279 and it led to you know, people realizing he's still 240 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.120 bitter about ul for reasons that are silly, and it 241 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:47.440 got a lot of attention for him to go back 242 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:49.600 to Kentucky. It took attention away from Mark Pope, which 243 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:51.799 people can say that wasn't his motive. Maybe it wasn't, 244 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:53.679 but look, that's what Rick does. If he's got a 245 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:55.240 chance to make it all about him, he's gonna do it. 246 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:59.600 But now it's on record that he's invited back and 247 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:01.000 maybe will come back at some. 248 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:04.720 Point, how long until he's at Reperena once again watching 249 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:05.879 Mark Pope coach a game. 250 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:09.000 You think that happens this season, it'd be a really 251 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:11.360 bad look if if it happened this season. I don't 252 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:12.480 care if you have an off day, if you're just 253 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:13.000 going to a game. 254 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.200 I mean, that's just weird. That's weird, weird. 255 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:19.840 I mean season, you're right, always weird. But two things, 256 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:24.440 it's Rick. Rick can get away with doing things that 257 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:26.320 every other coach, if they did it, we'd say what 258 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:27.039 the hell's going on? 259 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:27.600 But it's Rick. 260 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:30.600 But also there is a clear level of like, you know, 261 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:33.440 the story does does you know, make it to where 262 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:35.559 it's not as weird, meaning that his former player of 263 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.039 this is coaching the program now and he couldn't come 264 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:40.799 back whenever col is there, like you know, and he 265 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:42.720 wouldn't And that wasn't that was never gonna happen. So 266 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:45.919 but yes, it's it's it's always been weird and Rick 267 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:47.039 does Rick does weird stuff. 268 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:48.399 I'm curious that maybe if he. 269 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:51.480 Lasts in college basketball for another five six years and 270 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:57.279 you know, he isn't terrible, but also is not a 271 00:11:57.360 --> 00:11:59.360 real contender in the grand scheme of things when it 272 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:02.559 comes to like win in national championships, if he still 273 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:04.360 does this kind of stuff, I'm curious if like that 274 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:07.440 becomes really part of the brand and legacy. I mean, 275 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:09.399 he'll always be viewed as one of the best coaches 276 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:11.759 ever in college and as much as Lowell fans maybe 277 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:13.600 bitter towards him or maybe you're not, I don't know, 278 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:16.679 And even I mean, I don't know anybody that would 279 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:19.759 claim Rick is not a great coach, you know, so 280 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:21.720 that'll always be part of his legacy and how people 281 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:24.919 remember him. But you know the fact that he's even 282 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:27.519 on Twitter and he makes jokes and he's like, you know, 283 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:33.960 seeming to be at least one percent relatable, Like that alone. 284 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.240 Is crazy to think about. 285 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.799 Like, I heard a podcast that Chris Brickley was on. 286 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:41.720 It's one of the NBA podcasts where and for those 287 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.399 wh don't remember Chris Brickley played at u of L 288 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:46.480 for I think just one season, transferred from might have 289 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:48.799 been Vermont or something like that, and he wanted to 290 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:51.360 get into basketball coaching and training, and now he's the 291 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:53.279 lead trainer in the NBA. I mean, he trained some 292 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:55.080 of the best players in the world and he's made 293 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:58.320 a name for himself. But he came to Louisville because he, 294 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:00.519 you know, thought he could potentially play a little bit, 295 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.399 but also he wanted to learn from Rick. And he 296 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:04.840 was sharing a story about just how hard it was 297 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:08.440 practicing with him, and it was basically he was going 298 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:12.840 up against you know, Jerry Smith, Edgar Sosa, I don't 299 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:15.120 remember who else was on the team, but like really 300 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:17.200 good guards that pressed you for a whole game. So 301 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:18.720 here he is a walk on at u of L 302 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:20.639 because he transferred up from a D two level and 303 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:22.639 he's turned the ball over like crazy in practice, and 304 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:24.399 every time he turns it over, he's got to go 305 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.159 run the treadmill. And then he got to the point 306 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:27.720 where if he did it again, Rick was gonna make 307 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:31.399 him run outside and hold something over his head. And 308 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:37.320 this question came up because he was asked about his 309 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:39.639 experience at Louisville and how much he learned from Rick Patino, 310 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:41.360 and he just came out and said, Man, I'll be 311 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:44.519 honest with you, I hated my time at Louisville. I 312 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:47.360 was miserable and it was because of how challenged he was, 313 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:51.399 how pushed he was. And you know, he later said 314 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:54.000 that it took him a few years to realize like 315 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:57.399 he got so much from that experience. He was pushed 316 00:13:57.399 --> 00:14:00.279 to a level he wouldn't push himself too, and it 317 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:03.720 made him a lot better. And Montrez actually shared it. 318 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.080 That's where I saw the video and he said, Man, 319 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:07.840 if this doesn't hit home, And I think that's what 320 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:09.720 made Rick such a great coach is that he would. 321 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:11.639 I mean, Donovan talks about it all the time, like 322 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:13.320 he learned about himself as a player and as a 323 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:15.720 competitor because of how hard. 324 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:16.879 Rick pushed him. 325 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:19.440 So I bring all that up to say that Rick, 326 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:21.440 I don't know if he's coaching at Saint John's right now. 327 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:23.960 I think there's more of a lighthearted Rick that is 328 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.960 not as intense, and I think it's because he's getting older. 329 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:29.120 He was away from the game for a while and honestly, 330 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:32.200 you can't do it that way and not expect guys 331 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:35.519 to leave every every now and then. And to be fair, 332 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.159 Rick has been an NBA coach before. Wasn't as successful 333 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.840 at Boston as he was in New York. But maybe, 334 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:45.519 you know, maybe his experience in managing guys making more 335 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:48.039 money than him at that time, like maybe it does 336 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:50.799 give him the ability to potentially navigate this better than others. 337 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:53.240 But the way he coached at Louisville and really the 338 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:55.000 way he coached at Kentucky, I mean, that's nothing like 339 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.679 the NBA. I mean, Rick was a very demanding coach 340 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:00.879 that was a hard ass and that's not really how 341 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:05.039 it's done now in the professional ranks. But again, college 342 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:07.639 sports seemingly has turned in the turned into the professional ranks. 343 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:10.519 Oh so, somebody here on the text line is sending 344 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:12.080 a picture. I don't know if it's your kid or not, 345 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:15.360 but yes, it's the Teddy Bear with the Teddy Bridgewater 346 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:17.360 jersey on it. That that might be the best Louisville 347 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.200 Halloween themed costume I can I can think of somebody 348 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.000 else sent in a picture of Uh, I assume your daughter. 349 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:27.759 Dressed up as you have all cheerleader. That's a good one. 350 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:30.720 You really can't get that creative like the Teddy one, 351 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:33.879 you know, in the Pat Kelsey one. Really it's just 352 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:37.759 because of circumstance. Pat Kelsey's a pretty you know. All 353 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:42.159 it comes down to is are you relatively similar as 354 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:44.639 far as your frame and do you have shorter short 355 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:46.759 enough hair? Throwing those glasses, throwing a polo and like 356 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:50.120 people will probably know who you're trying to be any 357 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:53.720 Indiana Halloween theme, like if you're signetti, I mean you 358 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:55.120 just look like a hard ass. 359 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.759 And just maybe walking games cigarettes. Yeah, well, but does 360 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:02.000 he smoke? He doesn't. Actually, he actually addressed the whole 361 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:02.639 smoking meme. 362 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:04.960 Yeah, during one of his press conferences recently. 363 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:07.360 Because like it makes sense and it's awesome, like the 364 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.559 the Marlborough looking logo that has signetti instead of Marlborough, 365 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:14.240 Like that's freaking awesome. But that's I mean, leaning into 366 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:19.159 it is phenomenal for branding and whatnot. But you know, again, 367 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:21.320 the cigarette thing, like it might you know, if you're 368 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:25.080 walking around with an Indiana polo on and you put 369 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:26.879 on the khakis, you tuck him in, you look like 370 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:28.600 you look the part as a guy on the sideline 371 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:30.480 of a football game. You do, and you put a 372 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:33.200 cigarette in your ear and a whistle around your neck, 373 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:34.960 then maybe like that would be more of a tell 374 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:36.639 as to what you're trying to be, because you know, 375 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:39.120 Signette's not as easy of a guy, and he's a 376 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:42.559 pretty normal looking guy. But Pat Kelsey really the glasses 377 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:46.519 that's what makes you know, that's what makes it really recognizable, 378 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:49.960 because it's not something that you necessarily see from from 379 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:51.720 you know, a lot of coaches out there. And to 380 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:56.000 be fair, when we this wasn't when we were on 381 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:58.080 the air at the ACC tip off, but like people, 382 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:00.960 you know, he was asking to people think that his 383 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:03.480 like his glasses, like are they for looks? And I 384 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:06.759 was like, I'm not, really, those are legitimate prescription glasses 385 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:08.880 that like he doesn't see well without. Now, obviously he 386 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.119 could get a different style, a different look, but it's 387 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:14.160 not just an accessory. He got them from Lenz Crafters, 388 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:17.279 and uh, he needs them or he probably won't be 389 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:18.920 able to. I don't know how bad his vision is, 390 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:21.720 but it never it never dawned on me that he 391 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:24.200 he might think that people would assume that it's just 392 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:26.400 like a look, which hey, I mean, I know, I 393 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:28.039 mean that's not I mean, it's not an unheard of 394 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:30.160 thing for people to throw on something like that four 395 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.440 looks more than needing it for vision. But usually, you know, 396 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:36.400 college coaches and people in the public eye, wouldn't you know, 397 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:39.480 coaches in general wouldn't typically wouldn't typically do that. 398 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.839 I mean, I've made the PJ. Fleck comparison a couple 399 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:44.400 of times between Pat Kelsey and him, and they it's 400 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:46.480 not that they both look the exact same, but he 401 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:49.160