WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:20.280 Weird things happened in the Weird, Weird Weird. 2 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:29.760 Welcome to Bledsoe said so, I'm your host, Ryan Bledsoe. 3 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:33.719 Today we are joined by a fantastic guest, my friend 4 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:38.200 who has done some very cool things and is currently 5 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:42.359 doing very cool things, Jim Garrison. Before we get into 6 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:46.000 our conversation today, I want to talk about three things 7 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:49.240 really quick. So follow us on Instagram. Bledso said, so, 8 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:51.520 that's where we post all of our current events, including 9 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.159 this one that we're talking about now. We will be 10 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:58.960 posting this there, all of our skywatching schedules, conferences, all 11 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:02.520 that good stuff, public appearances, et cetera. 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Always good to see you. 24 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:38.200 Likewise, and it hasn't been that long, you know. 25 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:44.799 Yeah, it was at Wilmington during our course with Bertie 26 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:50.480 Jiworski and and your dad that we first actually met. 27 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:54.959 Let's talk about that a little bit about Ubiquity and 28 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:59.120 what was going on there at the Ballast Hotel, because 29 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.000 that was a very unique event. 30 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:06.640 Yeah, I would say, and you know, my twenty years 31 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:13.120 of heading up an academic institution, Ubiquitous University, that course 32 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:19.800 in Wilmington was one of the most profoundly transformational. It 33 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:24.400 was co led by Bertie Jeworski, one of the world's 34 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:30.199 leading remote viewers. She taught remote viewing by day, and 35 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.199 then we went out on the beach with you and 36 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:40.759 your sister Emily and Chris to do skywatching at night 37 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.360 and there were about fifty people. We limited it to 38 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:47.280 fifty people. We had two hundred people on the waiting list, 39 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:50.919 but the room was all we could get at that 40 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:55.520 time of the year. And Bertie felt that fifty people 41 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:59.560 teaching fifty people remote viewing for the first time was 42 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:05.639 more than she'd ever taught in person, and it just 43 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:09.240 could not have been better. And I think the highlight 44 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:11.479 of the week, as you'll recall because you were there, 45 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:19.960 is Bertie had people do remote viewing on Chris's first 46 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:24.719 meeting with our lady, and then we invited Chris and 47 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:30.319 the family to come and the remote viewers just put 48 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.840 up what they had seen, and for those of you 49 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:36.479 not familiar with remote viewing, you don't know what you're 50 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:41.560 looking at. All you get are eight numbers four, five, six, eight, three, 51 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:46.960 two nine four. That's all you get. And then you 52 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:52.560 have to go into your subliminal mind and for the 53 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:56.199 next hour hour and a half, you draw, you write 54 00:03:56.199 --> 00:04:02.840 down words, you make connections, and you're remote viewing from 55 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:08.400 where you are contemplating those that eight digit code, as 56 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:14.039 it were. And then when it's all done, then Bertie 57 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:17.600 either shows you the picture or tells you what you 58 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:24.800 remote viewed. So remote viewing is a high art form. 59 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:29.879 It's like a martial art. And the people saw things 60 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:39.079 that Chris hadn't remembered, he'd forgotten, and it was quite remarkable. 61 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:42.399 It was quite remarkable, and so we're going to be 62 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.839 doing it again next year in twenty twenty six. Next 63 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:50.279 May of twenty twenty six again in person, although this 64 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:52.439 time it'll be an Albuquerque, New Mexico. 65 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:55.439 Oh, very cool. And will it be the same format, 66 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:58.959 same format? Okay? So like will it be like by 67 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:01.720 day Bertie, by night Dad and SkyWatch and think, oh cool? 68 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:02.480 Exactly right. 69 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:04.560 Good, So you landed on Albuquerque. That's awesome. 70 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:09.319 Yeah. And what Bertie teaches is remote viewing in this case, 71 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:13.199 it's remote viewing for extraterrestrial contact. 72 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:15.879 And she calls it something specific like what is a 73 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:17.079 transdimensional mapping? 74 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:23.279 Yeah, that's her form. She's a very interesting individual. Actually, 75 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:28.879 she was there at the beginning of you know, Farsight 76 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:33.839 Institute and where the CIA and the military people had 77 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:40.240 developed remote viewing in a highly militaristic, hierarchical manner. She 78 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:44.279 rose from being a tech person to the vice president 79 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:50.680 of Farsight, and then she began to broaden remote viewing 80 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:56.120 and to democratize it and to feminize it. And the 81 00:05:56.160 --> 00:06:00.639 powers that be didn't like it, right, and they threatened 82 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.720 her and threatened her family. So she went underground for 83 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:04.879 twenty two years. 84 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:07.519 The gang stalked her all kinds of stuff. 85 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:11.800 Everything, but she didn't give up remote viewing. She had 86 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.519 five kids and every day. She'd get up at two 87 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:20.000 o'clock in the morning and remote view day after day 88 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:24.920 after day. And she refined her technique called transdimensional mapping, 89 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:32.839 which is accessible. It's fun. She developed new protocols. And 90 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:35.639 the military guys are still angry at her. 91 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:38.480 Oh yeah, they do not like her. They do not 92 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:39.959 want her to play ball with them. 93 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:44.360 Yeah. So when I met her, I said, hey, welcome 94 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:49.759 to Ubiquity University. And we developed our extraterrestrial studies program. 95 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:56.639 It's the only extraterrestrial studies program in a kind of 96 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:01.519 an accredited academic institution anywhere in the world. And so 97 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:09.240 Bertie is our partner, and we've partnered also with Chris 98 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:15.800 and we're running out courses with both of them, and 99 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.959 then also with Dahlia. We're gone thanks to you. You 100 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.639 were the one that created that connection. But we're going 101 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:27.160 to be doing an in person course with Dahlia next 102 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.879 the end of next March, amazing on clairvoyance and mental 103 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:34.959 telepathy and psychokinetics, and she and LaDue we're going to 104 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:36.879 do that one in Ogden, Utah. 105 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:40.120 That's so good. That's I'm very thrilled to hear that. 106 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:40.199 That. 107 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:43.839 Yeah, game together because I do believe she is an 108 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:45.160 important piece of this puzzle. 109 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:46.160 Oh totally. 110 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:48.680 And let's let's talk about what you mentioned for a 111 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:50.560 second there. When you brought us in on that final 112 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.959 day of Bertie's course, that was my first time meeting her, 113 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:58.279 as you recall, but the audience probably has no clue. 114 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:01.639 We were skywalk five nights a week, so my dad 115 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:04.439 would be with people during the day and then it 116 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:06.639 was like it was four or five nights that week. 117 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:08.959 Me and my siblings we would go out as well. 118 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:11.959 I didn't meet Bertie till the last day when we 119 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.399 came into that class. I had no clue what to expect, 120 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:20.560 no clue which she looked like nothing. And admittedly, this 121 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:25.560 subject is so broad and there is so much observable 122 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:31.160 psychic phenomenon, you know, extra dimensional phenomenon, all that stuff, 123 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:34.120 that I will admit that remote viewing has always been 124 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:40.080 my least interesting subject. I've never really been that impressed 125 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:43.919 by it because to me, it's like it's just a fact, right. 126 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:46.879 I don't have a hard time understanding that it's real. 127 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:51.080 But I will say that when I met Bertie for 128 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:53.639 the first time, I was like, this is interesting, this 129 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:57.600 is really interesting, and she has an energy about her 130 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:01.320 that you just want to hear more, you want to 131 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:04.799 learn about her method. She's very friendly, she's very bubbly, 132 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:08.559 but also you quickly begin to realize she's very real, 133 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:12.960 and it is refreshing that she does exist in this 134 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:16.960 world where the military and the intelligence communities have a 135 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:22.720 monopoly on this technology. Yes, right, and I'm not a 136 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:25.799 fan of that. I'm not a fan of military monopolies. 137 00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:29.480 So love Bertie Special shout out to Bertie. And it 138 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:33.840 was very cool to see that final session and kind 139 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.000 of get a front row seat to the method where 140 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.360 they're drawing all these things and they're going through their 141 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:42.639 feelings and their emotions, and a lot of them were 142 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:48.080 so spot on accurate. Like you said, things that we forgot, 143 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.720 we had forgotten were coming up, you know. So it 144 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:54.000 was it was very interesting. 145 00:09:54.559 --> 00:10:00.679 M hm hm yeah, fascinating stuff. Fascinating. I I must say. 146 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:04.080 I try to do it about once a week, and 147 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:12.960 what I find is that it's introducing me to deeper 148 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:17.759 and deeper levels of my subliminal mind. Because all of 149 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:23.039 us know the whole universe all the time, because everything 150 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.440 in our body is connected with everything else, So we 151 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:28.720 know that we know that. But the question is, how 152 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:32.919 do we humans, locked as we are to religious dogma 153 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:39.240 and scientific reductionism and ideologies and alienation from nature and 154 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:43.399 all of that, how do we access our capacity to 155 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.519 remember that which we knew from the beginning. And I 156 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:56.559 think that's the similarity between Birdie and Chris and also 157 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:04.240 Dahlia Forgotten Clairvoyant, is they remember the original tongue. They 158 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:09.039 remember that original experience of oneness, and that's what makes 159 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:09.919 them so special. 160 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:15.879 That's that's incredible. You know, before we go too far 161 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:19.159 into all of these other amazing characters that you've gotten together, 162 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:22.440 I want to focus on you for a second. I 163 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:25.080 want to learn about your journey and how you got 164 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:29.360 involved with this space, the creation of ubiquity, and then 165 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:33.320 obviously a very important subject today, the State of the 166 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:37.720 World Forum, which I hear is going to be very soon, 167 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:41.120 right and remind me. 168 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:44.279 December fourteen through seventeen. 169 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:49.399 December fourteen through seventeen, So let's get into that. Let's 170 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:53.279 go back to the beginning of your journey till now. 171 00:11:54.879 --> 00:12:01.559 Oh boy, the very very quick journey. I was actually 172 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:06.960 born of missionary parents in West China along the Tibetan border, 173 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:09.879 so I spent most of my life till I was 174 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:15.600 fifteen in Asia, in China and then Taiwan, speaking Mandarin Chinese. 175 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:19.720 That gave me a sense that even though my father 176 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:24.240 was a missionary, I realized very early on that these 177 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:25.960 people were not going to go to hell. They were 178 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.919 beautiful people. I needed to get to know them and 179 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:31.799 to learn from them, and to play with them and 180 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.480 to be at one with them. And that was a wonderful, 181 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:40.759 wonderful way to start my life. I was always intellectually curious, 182 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:44.799 so I ended up going to school for an exceedingly 183 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:46.960 long time till I was thirty two years old. I 184 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:53.879 finally got my PhD at Cambridge University, and I wrote 185 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:59.120 my doctoral dissertation on the question of why it is that, 186 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:04.120 after several billion years of evolutionary life on planet Earth, 187 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:08.919 that our species in our generation has brought the entire 188 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:13.399 life process to the brink of extinction through the escalating 189 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:19.240 threat of nuclear war. And that was a seminal life 190 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:25.960 changing experience for me to contemplate that profound question. Whenever 191 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:32.519 I would talk with anybody really about the nuclear weapons threat, 192 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:34.600 they would all say, well, of course we need nuclear 193 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:38.639 weapons because of the Russians. So in October of nineteen 194 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:44.080 eighty two, I went to Russia and traveled around for 195 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:50.120 two and a half three months, and I realized something 196 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:54.639 that profoundly changed my worldview. Most people think we need 197 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:58.320 nuclear weapons because the Russians are so bad, but actually 198 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:03.399 it's the other way around. We need an enemy in 199 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.759 order to justify our nuclear weapons. And once I realized 200 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:13.000 that Ryan, I dedicated my life ever since then to 201 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:19.559 social justice. And I ended up in nineteen ninety one 202 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:24.320 December of nineteen ninety one, actually meeting Mikyle Gorbachev while 203 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:27.840 he was still President of the Soviet Union as it 204 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:30.519 was called at that time. I was, in fact the 205 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:35.879 last foreigner that mister Gorbachev received in his Kremlin office 206 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.879 before he resigned on December twenty fourth, nineteen ninety one, 207 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.360 and then starting in January nineteen ninety two, all the 208 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:47.320 way to two thousand and two, I had an extraordinary 209 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:54.720 relationship with him. We founded the Gorbachev Foundation. We put 210 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:57.440 together what was the original State of the World Forum 211 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:01.320 in nineteen ninety five through two thousand, where we gathered 212 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:06.360 in San Francisco until two thousand when we moved to 213 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:13.559 New York. The largest and most diverse gathering that was 214 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:17.200 ever assembled up to that time anywhere in the world. 215 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.799 We brought people from everywhere, Nobel laureates, heads of states, 216 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:30.080 grassroots organizers, science as CEOs, indigenous elders, young people, you know, 217 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:32.679 the weird and the beautiful and the wonderful, all to 218 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:37.240 contemplate the next phase of human development. And then nine 219 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:41.919 to eleven happened, and then nine to eleven happened. We 220 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:45.360 decided that we would go our separate ways. I went 221 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:51.279 into academia and put Ubiquitous University together. But Gorbachev and 222 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:55.399 I stayed in touch all the way till his death 223 00:15:56.200 --> 00:16:01.279 several years ago, aged ninety one, just outside of Moscow. 224 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:09.200 And then in October of last year, twenty twenty four, 225 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:15.080 the woman that I had comoderated the state of the 226 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.919 World forms with back between nineteen ninety five and two thousand, 227 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:24.320 Lynn Twist, wonderful, wonderful Soul, called me up. She'd been 228 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:30.159 down in Ecuador and she was doing a plant journey 229 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:34.240 some ayahuasca, and in the middle of the journey, one 230 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:38.159 of the entities appeared to her and said very explicitly, 231 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:41.759 called Jim Garrison and telling me needs to recreate the 232 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.919 State of the World form. So as soon as I 233 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:51.759 heard that last October, I realized instantly that this was 234 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:55.120 something that I needed to do. So I left the 235 00:16:55.240 --> 00:17:03.519 job that I was doing at that time, and I've 236 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:06.799 been doing the State of the World Forum ever since. 237 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:12.119 And I can go into more details about that, because 238 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:15.839 it's a fascinating journey since then. But I'll pause to 239 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:18.759 see if there's any questions or comments that you want 240 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:19.119 to make. 241 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:22.880 Well, sure, I think that's such an amazing story, and 242 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:28.000 I just find it so fascinating that what was that 243 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:30.880 thirty years ago now that you held the first one, 244 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.359 So that's a lifetime. I mean, just to put in perspective, 245 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:34.079 I'm thirty two. 246 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:37.119 You were in diapers. 247 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.839 Yeah, I was born in nineteen ninety three, you know, 248 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:46.759 and I remember being about seven or eight years old 249 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:49.720 when Y two K was happening. I remember the night. 250 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:52.319 I remember the night because it was all over TV 251 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:55.400 and my parents were chattering about it. And I'm in 252 00:17:55.480 --> 00:17:58.400 diapers here in this strange word. I have no flu 253 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:00.759 what it means. I don't even know what a year is, right, 254 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.480 and I just I just I have such this little 255 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:06.880 snapshot of that time in my little toddler brain. So 256 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:09.559 it's fascinating to think back to those earliest days of 257 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:12.160 my life that there were people such as yourself who 258 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:15.279 were gathering minds from all over the world to think 259 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:19.119 about what's the next direction for humanity. You know, it's 260 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:23.000 just a very fascinating thing to think about for me specifically. 261 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:27.160 So I'm curious just we don't have to focus on this. 262 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.640 But like you know, was Y two K a part 263 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:32.079 of that focus or any of those concerns at the time. 264 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:40.279 Why two K was a blip that attracted a lot 265 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:44.839 of attention but then didn't go anywhere because it didn't 266 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:51.440 in the end mean anything. There was you know, Miyan prophecies, 267 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:56.119 and there was a lot of millennialism and apocalypticism around 268 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:03.839 the year two thousand. Ye, someone started to spread the 269 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:12.359 meme that the computers were only calculated to two thousand 270 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:15.039 and that the whole world was going to deconstruct in 271 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:19.279 some way at midnight of two thousand. I never personally 272 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:23.119 took it very seriously, but several of my friends took 273 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:26.680 it extremely seriously. And when midnight came and nothing happened, 274 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:31.119 then the whole thing kind of petered out. But it was, 275 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:33.960 you know, like so many things that happened in our culture, 276 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:40.000 where there's like this frenzy of attention and then a 277 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:43.519 kind of two weeks later, something else has happened and 278 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:47.279 you've kind of forgotten about what it was that everybody 279 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:53.400 was so excited about. And Y two K just happened 280 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:56.599 to be one of those global events that was very 281 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:58.759 It was a lot, it was a lot, very interesting, 282 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:00.759 and it was a lot of fun, and then it 283 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:01.759 kind of evaporates. 284 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:06.119 Yeah, for sure. I just didn't know if at the 285 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:08.039 time if it was something you guys were thinking about, 286 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:08.599 or even. 287 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:11.640 Yeah, yeah, everybody was. Everybody's sitting by their computers. My 288 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:12.799 computer gonna blow. 289 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:16.599 Up, nuke's gonna launch at the same time, or yeah. 290 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:17.119 Yeah. 291 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.519 But and then, of course, another one of those events 292 00:20:19.519 --> 00:20:22.039 that we all remember very well is twenty twelve, right 293 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.160 because of the same thing. My own calendar is Apocalypticism 294 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:28.119 and all these movies. And then I remember that night 295 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:31.400 as well, you know, just at my friend's house playing 296 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:34.480 video games, like is the world going to end tonight? Nah? 297 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:38.039 So and now we're looking forward, right, we're looking forward 298 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:40.440 to a new world ahead. I think we're all on 299 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:43.039 the same page with this, and I think what you're 300 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:46.200 doing with the State of the World Forum is crucial, right, 301 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:50.599 And I'm curious about so many things about this. What 302 00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:55.200 what is your vision for the future world that you 303 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:56.079 would like to see? 304 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:01.480 Well, let me tell a little bit of the narrative, 305 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:05.240 because I think that answers your question. You know, I 306 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:10.640 said yes instantly to Lynn, without further reflection. I just 307 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:13.160 knew intuitively. It's sort of like in every cell of 308 00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:17.079 my body that this was correct and I needed to 309 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:19.799 do it and it was my task. And then all 310 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:21.200 of a sudden it hit me when I woke up 311 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:23.279 the next morning, well, geez, how do you do this? 312 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:32.240 Because there's no Gorbachev. You know, people may not remember, 313 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:39.240 but Gorbachev was a massive global personality, like Nelson Mandela, 314 00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:44.000 like Gandhi, you know, like Martin Luther King. He had 315 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:47.880 changed history, had won the Nobel Peace Prize. Traveling with 316 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:51.480 him was like traveling with the Beatles. It was an 317 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:58.640 extraordinary thing. But there's no Gorbachev. There's no superordinate personality 318 00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:04.079 that the whole world knows and respects enough to convene 319 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:08.480 a global conversation. So I went, WHOA, So now what? 320 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:13.359 So I really went into a deep state of inquiry 321 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:19.240 and meditation, and then I began to realize that the 322 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:25.119 Gorbachev function was not a personality. It was a question. 323 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:32.839 And the question is how should humanity in this moment 324 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:41.039 elevate its consciousness to creatively respond to the four most 325 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:47.319 fundamental truths of our time. And those are meaning truths 326 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.960 that are true no matter who you are or where 327 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:55.240 you are on planet Earth. Number One, that we're all 328 00:22:55.279 --> 00:23:01.640 facing accelerating planetary ecological collapse, and whether you believe in 329 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:04.319 climate change or you don't believe in climate change, all 330 00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:09.759 of us can see that the ecology the environment is 331 00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:17.039 being radically destabilized and entire ecological systems are in crisis. 332 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:27.400 Number Two, we're all experiencing deepening instability and turbulence at 333 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:35.160 every level of human affairs all around the world. That's true. 334 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:43.200 And number three, we've just unleashed completely unregulated exponential artificial 335 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:54.319 intelligence that's impacting in unimaginable ways the world. Everybody understands that, 336 00:23:54.400 --> 00:24:00.839 particularly because it's unregulated. And number four, the US government 337 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:06.960 is now on record multiple times asserting that technologically advanced 338 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:12.920 non human intelligences exist, and there's been evidence of sustained 339 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:16.119 contact and communication. I mean the US government has retrieved 340 00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:21.039 daily in craft, they have retrieved daily in biologics. That's true. 341 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:24.720 So if you contemplate those four data points, Ryan, what 342 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:31.559 emerges are four intelligences. You have human intelligence, you have 343 00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:37.720 nature intelligence, you have artificial intelligence, and you have cosmic intelligence. 344 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:42.720 So the State of the World Forum is being convened 345 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:49.119 between twenty twenty five and twenty thirty six years, just 346 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:51.480 like the first one between nineteen ninety five and the 347 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:55.920 year two thousand, around this question of how do we 348 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:04.359 experience what we're calling multi intelligence revolution, How does human 349 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:11.960 intelligence come together and understand nature intelligence, artificial intelligence, and 350 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:17.960 cosmic intelligence and begins the process of co creating with 351 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:24.200 them a single future. So we have four intelligences, but 352 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:28.799 we only have one future. And how we solve this coon, 353 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:35.000 this riddle, this challenge is going to determine our fate 354 00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:39.880 moving into the future, because the central reality that I 355 00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:44.440 think all of us know, either explicitly or intuitively, is 356 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:49.319 that it's not only the case that we're not alone, 357 00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:53.640 we can't make it alone. And of course that's where 358 00:25:54.440 --> 00:26:00.279 Chris comes in. You know, Chris is demonstrated for years 359 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:07.920 now that these orbs, these non human intelligences, these cosmic intelligences, 360 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:12.599 are not only here in an incontrovertible way, but they 361 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:19.039 give wisdom, they transform lives, and they, like our lady 362 00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:28.200 bring Suker, bring help to the suffering soul. And so 363 00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:33.680 that is the framework for the forum, and it's going 364 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:39.759 to be a very exciting proposition which we invite all 365 00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:42.799 of you to join. You can just go to our 366 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:46.400 website at stateoftheworld dot form and there will be a 367 00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:51.319 coupon code I think it's BLEDSOE ninety five that will 368 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:56.960 allow people to sign up and get a reduced price. 369 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:00.359 We also have scholarships available. We just want people to 370 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:06.279 participate in this conversation because we believe it's a conversation 371 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:10.160 of a lifetime. This will mark the first time in 372 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:15.519 history that's ever been a gathering to think through for 373 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:20.759 intelligences and what it means that we are not alone 374 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:23.079 and we can't make it alone, that we need these 375 00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:27.720 intelligences now to come together with us to co create 376 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:31.240 the future. So that's the essence of what the State 377 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:35.519 of the World Forum is all about. And your dad, 378 00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:38.480 Bertie Jaworski, and a number of other people I can 379 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:44.000 go into will be there throughout the forum bringing their wisdom, 380 00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:48.240 and there's going to be a SkyWatch with Chris and Wilmington, 381 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.400 North Carolina, and then with Bertie Jaworski. Each night of 382 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.480 the forum. She'll be out in Albuquerque and every night 383 00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.519 will take People will send in their videos and we'll 384 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:02.680 do a collage and we'll show them the next morning. 385 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:05.119 It's going to be it's going to be a wonderful event. 386 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:09.680 It's it's truly exciting. And I can't help but wonder 387 00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:12.039 because I remember, you know, we were talking about this 388 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.920 back in August at your Ubiquity University event hosted here 389 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.720 in my town in Wilmington, and I just remember hearing 390 00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.200 some of the players involved with this, and I'm just like, 391 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.920 oh my gosh, how do you know these people? How Like, 392 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:28.680 at what point in your life do you get in 393 00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:32.359 front of some of these people and get them to 394 00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.559 agree to do this? It's insane. But let's talk about 395 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:40.839 some of the divers cast of heroes that you have 396 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.119 assembled to tackle these issues of the four intelligences. And 397 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.200 I completely love the way that you described that that 398 00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:49.279 not only are we not alone, but we can't do 399 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.079 this alone. Yeah, right, So let's talk about some of 400 00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:54.920 these diverse heroes that you're assembling. 401 00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:59.160